In this thread we will discuss Halo and it's lore
>>719521270>can’t go back to the moon or get playable elites in halo>the technology just doesn’t exist anymore
I only discuss Halo 1-Reach lore. Sorry but Halo 4-Infinite aren’t canon
>>719521270me looking up at an elite to ask if i can feel his tentacle mandibles
>>719521342>Literally have Elite models rigged up and ready to go>We can't put them into multiplayer because... Well, because we just can't, chud!It's literally just that they're desperate to force Halo as some kind of competitive shooter and don't want to account for things like different hitboxes and having to come up with different skins for them and shit.
>>719521270Halo went to shit when they scraped the arbiter
>>719521270I'd rather discuss Sangheili titties but ok.
The fucking Halo general to discuss:>>>/vg/537149441>>>/vg/537149441>>>/vg/537149441>>>/vg/537149441
They fuck and impregnate men. It's their whole purpose.
adulthood is realizing Halo 3 had the perfect ending and the following games (storyline-wise) were completely unnecessary. the covenant and flood were defeated (mostly, we know the flood can't truly be defeated, only contained), and master chief would drift in space for decades before silently dying in cryo sleep. that was the closest thing to a happy ending he was going to get. his entire purpose for existence was war, he would never know peace and even after the human-covenant war was over his PTSD would ensure he would never lead a "normal" life. he was a tool, and he had fulfilled his purpose of saving humanity. this is exemplified in his last words to Cortana:>wake me, when you need mehe would only be taken out of the toolbox when he was needed again, and not a moment before. the writers knew this and gave john the perfect ending, wrapping up his arc as just another tool going back into the toolbox. the early books go into a bit more detail on this mostly during halsey's reflections on whether abducting children and turning them into living weapons was the "right" thing to do.>>719521365same here. they're fanfic, sometimes interesting/entertaining but largely trash.
>>719521270Before anyone can say otherwise, I'm just going to post here to state that in perpetuity, humans are forerunners, and no attempts at retconning this fact will ever succeed
Here's my review of all the Halo books I've read>Fall of ReachAmazing, 10/10 just an awesome sci-fi book regardless of being Halo. A few "early installment weirdness" elements even in the updated 2011 edition, like Elites never being encountered by the UNSC until reach and hiding on their capital ships, Nylund writes cool space combat, Keyes chapter's are standouts. Also invented tons of things bungie then stole without any credit, like the whole concept of ODSTs>The FloodReally bad, needless, amateurish, cartoonish, pretty much nothing interesting here, unless you like reading basically narration of a Halo CE playthrough>First StrikeNylund's second book so you know it's gold. Starts off super strong picking up where Halo CE ends with Chief in the Longsword, just gets better and better from there. Feels like it could've been straight up adapted to a videogame, like Halo 1.5. >Ghosts of OnyxLast Nylund book, introduces Spartan IIIs, feels a bit like the "highest highs" of the Nylund books while also being the most high concept and starting plot points that sadly were really interesting but never get expanded upon or that got butchered later by shitty writers and 343 takeover>Contact HarvestThe inherent premise of making Sargeant Johnson this super important character central to the story and also having a young Tartarus feels like "Star Wars"isms (there are only a handful of important people in this setting and everything must be related to them) but besides that the rest of the book is cool, and written by Joe Staten so it feels incredibly "Halo">Cole ProtocolDon't really remember much interesting here, some good Keyes stuff I think, but the Elites and Arbiter writing is kinda bad>Halo EvolutionsAlmost all the short stories besides the one written by Frank O Conner are really good, The Mona Lisa is the main standout and a must read, also The Return.
>>719522052good post
>>719522052I think Bungie pretty much realized the same thing hence why they decided to do two spin offs in a row and then sell the whole damn thing
>>719522052Arthurian endings (he will return when we need him most) are almost always kino as fuck, it's an ancient human trope for a reason
>>719521365>>719522052They should make 4 through Infinite a weird fever dream Master Chief had while he was asleep. There, problem fixed.
>>719521762wannabe janny pls go and stay go
>>719522118when you first saw uni were you blinded by its majesty?
>>719522149I'm glad someone else reads the books. I've read every novel, short story, comic, and web story. The Fall of Reach is in my top 10 favorite books ever, it's so good. That, First Strike and Silent Storm are my favorites.
>>719521473absolutely adorable post
>>719521270Someone give me a quick summary for the plots of all Bungie halos. I don't care about 343
>>719522052I realized this when I was teenager. It felt like almost the perfect resolution (I wish 3 was longer). When 4 was revealed I didn't feel as hyped, and when I saw "Press X to Win" at the end I knew it wasn't the same. ODST is great, especially for adding firefight. Reach was alright, but I could tell Halo 3 was the real sendoff.
>>719522345No, but I also did not let the canines evade my ships, land in the sacred cardboard box, and desecrate it with their filthy pawprints
Resignation is my virtue,Like water I ebb and flow
>>719522243They are probably going to do that now that they are rebooting CE but given that this company has a track record of fumbling good concepts don't get your hopes up.
>>719522740This is the same company that bragged about hiring people who hate Halo to make Halo
>>719522740at this point i wouldnt expect microsoft to even be able to release a game. all their devs just suck on their teet until they're laid off.
>>719521762>5bab general Fuck off nigger
>>719521762No thanks, I don't think I'm part of the spectrum.
>>719522740Nothing they've done shows me they can make a competent game, nevermind a proper Halo game.It's spectacular they turned one of the biggest franchises into dirt in a time when video games were really starting to see mainstream appeal. Doubly so because Steve Downes is 75 years old now and they really can't make a Halo game without him.
>>719521725Men only want one thing.
>>719521762Damn. Would you just look at all that discussion.
>>719521762halo is dead pal, even this thread is fucking retarded
>>719521365Very true.
THE MANTLE OF RESPONSIBILITY
>>719521270>lore
>>719521559Are they playable in singleplayer or just NPCs? Because it does take a fair amount of work to make an NPC playable in first person without being janky.
>>719522740>Rebooting CEUm, what?
>>719523748>Halo, but it's made by RareCould it work?
>>719525335Back in the day? ProbablyNow? Holy shit is it rough
>>719522740>rebooting CEThe Endless Won BTW
Thoughts?https://youtu.be/2O_9hwQ8jLw?
Playing Reach right now, just got to Mission 5. I'll just say that the weapon variety is "interesting". I have a love-hate relationship with the Battle Rifle and the Needle Rifle just feels weird to use with how much enemies dodge my shots, meanwhile I feel that the Assault Rifle is the best it has ever been in the series so far. Also the Magnum is back to its CE glory and that makes me very happy.
Halo is to FPS what Sonic is to mascot plataformersThat also goes for the fans
in the Bungie lore how many missions did Chief run in the war before the events of CE?
>>719526220The Elites in that game are the best in the franchise >that moment where you first encounter them>they're fucking Zealots>this theme playsKINOhttps://youtu.be/V9HNhw8uN-8?
Part of me wants to read the books and get more into the lore, but the other part of me knows I'll just be disappointed because none of its potential will be realized.
The Sangheili gotta be some of the coolest fucking aliens in all of fiction right?>noble warriors >value honor and bravery >highly intelligent >great fucking design>awesome weapons and ranking system >incredibly tightly designed in gameplay >eventually become an ally in the lore >amazing voicesJust pure fucking kino all around. Bungie created something special.
>>719526052Glad that ODST gets some love after all this time.
>>719522510>Halo 1: The Pillar of Autumn, hosting Master Chief and Cortana, gets chased by a Covenant armada, and after doing a space jump, they conveniently end near Halo, which is eventually revealed to be a super weapon created to wipe all life on the galaxy for the purpose of starving the true enemy of the series, the Flood, a species of zombie parasites whose only purpose is to consume all life on the galaxy.>Halo 2: Probably the most story-heavy game in the series. You play as Chief who arrives to Earth and is immediately placed in combat, and the Arbiter who is an Elite captain who survived Halo's destruction and was labeled as a heretic for not stopping its destruction. In the meantime, the Brutes, a race of gorilla-like aliens, end taking the Elites' place as the Prophet's guards which ends on a civil war within the Covenant, all while Gravemind, the Flood's mastermind, uses both Chief and Arbiter to stop Halo's activation for the sole purpose of removing the last thing that would stop it from consuming the galaxy.>Halo 3: Chief returns back to Earth and now joins the Arbiter against the Brute-controlled Covenant, now lead by the last surviving Prophet who learns that the Ark, the centerpoint of all of the Halos, had its point of entrance in Earth. The Flood attacks when both factions are at their weakest but in humanity's moment of need, the Elites join them as allies, now free from the Prophet's influence, and their alliance is what finally defeats the Covenant and stops them from activating the Ark, but by doing so, now the Flood had no opposition to consume everything in its path. It all goes full circle as the Ark reveals that it was creating a new Halo to replace the one destroyed in the first game, and activating it with Gravemind and almost all of the flood within range would finally kill them and save the galaxy.
>>719526542Six is one lucky motherfucker to have survived that attack. What a cool sequence it was.
>>719527147I freaking love them, the Arbiter is no different.
>>719526313That's like 25 years of covenant war, and spartans didn't get days off.If you also add counter-insurgency missions, they go well into the several hundreds.
>>719522149>"early installment weirdness"John-117, Notorious Cyborg and Last of the Spartans.
It was actually kino and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>719521270halo was at its best when humanity was on the brink fighting a losing war against the covenant
>>719522149Which of the stories do you recommend to read? I want to read them for myself, I want to learn more about the lore and relearn what was forgotten too.
>>719527147>Bungie create something special with Halo>Go on to create Destiny
>>719521270sorry, all i got from reading your post was "wort wort wort"
>>719527903What's wrong with Destiny anon?
For me its the ultra
>>719527802learn to use proper adjectives retard
>>719527802I understand people's issues with the changes to combat, but the story was a ton of fun and the tone of the game was great. It also unironically has a great ending where the story meshes with the gameplay in your hopeless last stand.
>>719527868So, 1, 2, 3, and Reach?
>>719527267>fatty chiefi dont have high hopes
>>719528064>So long>*gunshot sound heard*
>>719521559They will add them in the next game I bet. The current guy in charge of the devs is finally giving in to fan demand and not simping for the competitive fags. Like for example they finally added the falcon back in.
>>719521270Imagine being on High Charity during the flood outbreak. Good lord that'd suck ass.
>>719528064chibi elites?
When I was 14 this was the coolest shit ever
>dies sacrificing himself to save his home>it's for a hopeless cause and Reach is glassed effortlessly
>>719527147>Die in droves because the basic concept of bloodletting is haram to them and all doctors are outlawedIt's honestly impressive that they didn't go extinct before the Prophets wrangled them like a special ed teacher wrangles retards.
>>719528443Left = tacticool as fuckRight = bingbong sloppaLooks like a fucking Power Rangers character
Posts like these define how badly 343 fucked this. They were given keys to the kingdom and threw them in the sewer.I'm passionate about Halo, and so are a lot of people here. They love Halo. And 343 was unworthy of even looking at it.4 onward can't even be considered cannon because of how lore-breaking it is. It's about as cannon as the goddamn Halo show.
>>719528498>He gave his life thinking he had just saved the planet. We should all be so lucky.
>Rebooting CEThey will make Johnson GAY and LAME
I adore the oppressive and bleak atmosphere of Reach. It all feels so hopeless because we know it's fate.
>>719528809likely wouldnt have couch co-op
"To war" is still the most retarded line in any Halo game. I'm including the 343 ones.
Why was he so unstoppable? He basically stopped the Covenant entirely on his own.
>YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY MAKE PEOPLE RELATE TO A CHARACTER WEARING A HELMET THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE MASTER CHIEF TAKE HIS OFF FOR THE TV SERIES
>>719528219Mostly accurate save for Halo Infinite. The multiplayer was great, there was just no fucking content or forge, and the microtransactions were incredibly jewish. How they spent 5-6 years on that shit is beyond me.
>>719528976gary stu
>Regenerating shields/health is seen as a babyfication of shooter health economy for years by psuedo intellectual game journalists/youtubers>Re-examination of games featuring it, such as Halo, reveal it actually encourages more dynamic and aggressive play I wonder what other obvious truths Halo will reveal to us.
>>719527903bungie has a knack for creating cool fucking aliens and its a shame that ones like the fallen and hive are forever stuck in d*stiny
>>719521270WHERE'S THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE HALO 5 GUARDIANS PC PORT????
>>719528976He was lucky.
>You will never live Halo 3's hype again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm2a-xxpou0how did he survive?
>>719529140The thing is that Halo made it work in context of its world, to the point they literally have characters telling you about the way regenerating health works in Halo 2 (and even reverted the change for Halo ODST and Reach to keep the timeline consistent with the first game). Every other FPS that did it really has no reason for it aside from it just being a thing that happens. In Modern Warfare 2 your screen got splattered by strawberry jam and then you were fine a few seconds later despite taking an entire magazine to the face.
>>719526284That also goes for the autistic hatebase.
>>719528932See, in defense of that. That sounded so fucking cool at the time. Even playing, it didn't raise any alarms.It's when you put it under a microscope, do you realize, yeah. It's mad silly.>We're we headed?>To war.>Bitch, I need a direction!
>>719529316It's classified.
Worhby.
>>719528932Bungie has never been good at writing dialogue.
only played 1 and 2 for nowwhy did the Covenant even start the Human-Covenant War? seems really stupid to do and they can understand english, so it's not a misunderstanding problem.
>>719529307Fucking soul.
>>719529316This is Johnson's twin brother who died on the ring.
>>719529659
>>719529659Literal jewish trickery.>Their entire religion is based on being the chosen people to their gods, the Forerunners>Forerunners were actually just humans, or at the very least a precursor race to humanity, so if a human interacts with any forrunner tech it instantly works no problem>The Prophets, aka top jews in the covenant, realize this shortly after finding humanity, and that their entire fucking religion is fake>Instead of risking loosing any power, they force their literal ape people and muslim warriors to genocide humanity
>>719529619Then why not post an older example instead of an extremely recent one?
>>719529619That wizard came from the moon.
>>719529659It's explained in detail in Contact Harvest but the games make it clear enough. Their leadership views humanity to be an affront to their religion and they must die. Also keep in mind that before the events in the second half of 2, the Covenant were never at any point in danger of losing the war. That's why Cortana sounds so crestfallen when she first sees High Charity and its defense fleet."That's the largest Covenant fleet I've ever seen. The largest anyone's ever seen..."^Woman who just realized humanity never even really had a chance.
>>719529619>Bungie Destiny dialogueIt's almost like Destiny was absolutely hated then. By everyone. Everywhere.
>>719529659Humans are Forerunners and therefore inheritors of their technology. They would (and do) discover that it's a weapon meant to eradicate all life.
>>719529659>seems really stupid to doWhy? They absolutely destroyed humanity in every way until Mr. Protagonist saved the day.
>>719529279the fallen could've been the elite for destiny. that's how awesome they are
>>719529793It's fucking crazy how much shit they planned for.
>>719529659Most warring nations can understand each other's languages. It's never a "misunderstanding problem."
>>719529859The fact that midget was so bad, they just opted to cast Nolan North instead is the funniest thing to me.I don't even think Peter Dinklage did a horrible job, but some of those line reads are just...awful.Just because someone can act, doesn't mean they can voice act. It is an entirely different skill set.A lot of producers assume it's the same talent. And it fuckin' ain't.
>>719529793Maybe I'm wrong, but I wish more of this was explained at the beginning of the game. Anyone who got the game second-hand without a manual would be clueless.
>>719530025It's still ultimately the director's fault for approving that shit.
>>719529839Anon, Destiny 1 came out 11 years ago.
>>719529868it's kinda crazy how the Covenant goes from beating the shit out of mankind to imploding on itself in like,what, a couple months?
>you play as an elite soldier>you are the last of your kind (or one of the last) because all the rest of your kind diedi kind of dislike this tropeit's such an overused example of plot armour
>>719530140It's not even necessarily It's a bad line read. But it sounds like he's a narrator for a children's storybook.
>>719530329That tends to happen when you remove half of your leadership to replace them with literal apes.
>>719530324But Bungie is much, much older than that. If you want to say "they've always been this way" you need to post an example from their early work.
>>719530669aka don't outsource everything you have to third-worlders
>>719529659pretty much the prophets realized humans were forerunners, which means not only where their gods just regular joes, but the fact some of said gods were left behind after the rings were fired contradicted their claim that all of them ascended, in other words if the rest of the covenant figured this out after interacting with humans long enough their entire society would collapse, in other words it was a case of getting rid of a very inconvient truth
>>719521270Why do Sangheili desire sex with humans?
>>719529793>Humanity is so outmatched that all UNSC ships are ordered to make a blind jump to random coordinates if they ever encounter Covenant forces, because retreating to Earth or any earth-controlled planet is instant disaster since they can be tracked through slipspaceStuff like this is so fucking cool. Really shows how tenatious humanity was even if they were losing hard
>>719521762with the same four faggots that already know eachother? honestly they should just permaban everyone that posts on /vg/
>>719530329>Be Convenant>Think you're hot shit>Dinky human ship lands on your most sacred relic>Wipes out everything you send at it (which wasn't enough because you thought it'd fold instantly)>Humans effortlessly interact with the ancient religious alien tech you've been struggling with for ages>Then you release an ancient unstoppable parasite>Then your most sacred relic fucking blows upI'd be pissed, too.Why were there any flood samples left on the Halo, though? Why didn't they just kill all of them? Why contain them at all given how dangerous they are?
>>719531526wasn't it for research purposes? that's what Spark said.
Humans are not the Forerunners, Fuck you and this shit made up lore
>>719529307It really was a better time
>>719531764>You ARE Forerunner-343 Guilty Spark, Halo 3
>>719531476>honestly they should just permaban everyone that posts on /vg/I don't think so, bro.
>>719531764>Humans are not the ForerunnersHuh, frankie, you WERE a janny while working at Bungie.
>>719531869How the fuck was this line completely ignored by 343.
>>719531526The Flood came from outside the galaxy so the idea was that when humanity completed the Reclamation and properly inherited all the Forerunners left behind, they'd be able to succeed where the Forerunners failed and find a cure/actual countermeasure beyond just nuking everything and hoping for the best. Guilty Spark muses that this was probably a mistake in hindsight. But you can at least see the logic behind it.
>>719532323343 retconsThere were NO PRECURSORS and there was NO MANTLE OF RESPONSIBILITYit was all made up during halo 4 and its DOGSHIT forerunner trilogy book
>>719532154They invented some bizarre cope for it and knew that people who unironically consume and enjoy Karen Traviss books would see no problem.Reminder that to this day redditors will contort themselves into pretzels and say "HALO 3 TERMINALS CONFIRM FORERUNNERS =/= HUMAN! BUNGIE DID IT FIRST!"Even though that's not even true on top of all the other issues people have pointed out over the years.
>>719527445Poetic that in the final fight its a zealot that does the killing blow
>>719532323That's 343 slop lore. You can tell because "ackthually there was an even more ancienter race before the Forerunners!" is peak fanfic glurge. A recurring pattern in their writing. See: Cortana turning evil, The Endless, The Banished post HW2, Spartan IV and probably more that isn't coming to me off the top of my head.
Whatever Halo game comes after the CE remake needs to have Marty back
Imagine if Halo 2 had a cutscene explaining the entirety of First Strike summarised in 4 minutes instead of being reduced to just "it's classified"That is what Halo 4 librarian cutscene is like and its so bullshithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1m2cT5c6k
Female sangheili should be flat
>>719532858Basically anything written before 2011 is good. And the reference to them in Bungie lore is extremely vague. Not at all anything like the lore that 343 came up with. They were a mythologized race of super beings that may or may not even have existed. Ironically, the same way the Covenant view the Forerunners except with even less concrete evidence or information to go off of. That might be confusing but I think there's an important distinction between the Forerunners having their own belief system and gods and religion versus the Precursors being an integral actual concrete tangible part of the lore that are literally the Flood.
>>719533056To this day I don't understand 343's plan with halo's story, their version is so convoluted and full of plotholes and nonsense it would make any competent writer madjoseph staten DIDN'T deserve this
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>>719533392>not NylundDoesn't count
>>719532858>weren't they referenced in halo 3s terminals?the Terminals in Halo 3 don't have anything to do with the ctual lore of the Bungie games, as they were more like the wilder ideas that the people at Bungie had that didn't make sense with the story they were telling.
>>719533342>The Ringworld of HalHal and Johny
>>719533876J-Dog and the Orphan Boys
>>719532154Erm actually, Guilty Spark is schizophrenic, but exclusively when discussing this topic.
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>>719528932I think what gets me most about that line is how, when the cutscene ends, she awkwardly walks back down the stairs. It like a punchline to a bad joke.
>>719533297>>719533297>>719533297>>719533297>>719533297
>>719522149>Mona LisaI watched a youtube thing of that the other day and I was so pissed aboug the ending. Give my nigga Henry his shore leave!
>>719527802Honestly I get the PvP complaints, but I was always more of a custom games and campaign guy. And as someone who sees the flaws in the franchise and doesn't put any single game on some magical godly pedestal, Reach has problems but it also has cool stuff too. Its biggest problem really was just that it was "more Halo" at a time that the industry got infatuated on cinematic action setpiece shooters, and Reach didn't hit the ante the competitors were doing.
>>719529976Say what you will about their actual writing team, and how blatantly they fly by the seat of their pants as they went along: after Pathways into Darkness, Marathon and Myth, they were damn good at making a rather complex and connective tissue of story and intrigue overall, wrapping it around a seemingly straightforward core adventure to jaunt through. I think the one game around the time that utterly shit the bed in this department was Oni, and that's entirely because that game was written more like a bunch of anime pastiches slapped into one gigantic collective homage to 90s anime without much cohesion.
The Arbiter is cute
>>719521473Mandibles? Well, I guess that's fine too...
it's just such an elephant in the room that the company in charge of developing halo games now is named after one of the villains in the serieshow much more fucking clues do you need?
>>719535845No. Its worse. See>>719533386
>>719528350It's still kinda cool desu, just too much form over function. How long did that take him? How does he fucking see? How cool can a guy be if he willingly even does the shit?
>>719528809>GAYMaybe desu, wouldn't really matter. I think Chief is the only one he'd really have eyes for, and he wouldn't vocalize that by twirling his hair and giggling or anything. >LAMEImpossible, he's a cool black dude with a sniper who doesn't blink in the face of 90% of alien bullshit.
>>719528976>LuckI buy it, it's practically an in-universe explanation for being the main character. If things didn't work out for you there'd be no game (or at least Reach). The real question is, The Arbiter is your mirror, and he wasn't specially chosen by an advanced AI, so how was he able to do all that shit?
>>719536258the more i read about early feminists the more i realise it was a mistake to listen to them, but when you have private interest groups and paramilitary organizations manipulating society from behind the scenes to extract more money from the people what more should one fucking expect
>>719529659the higher ups realized humans were the true inheritors and so they were very inconvenient
>>719528013that's some Jo Jo shit right thereI guess Destiny 2 vanilla campaign was the perfect stopping point
>>719521270>>719522149...
>>719536576Ban Zhao tried to warn you
halo is so fucking fucked it's unbelievable
>>719536748His wife is hot tho
>>719536690they ALL tried to warn us
>>719526052i like that they try to keep the cameos actually in-line with the game instead of adding Thanos or something
>>719536941Now look where we are.Silly and lame world.
>>719537131>yellow fever faggot fell for it againEverytime.
>>719532615>Reminder that to this day redditors will contort themselves into pretzels and say "HALO 3 TERMINALS CONFIRM FORERUNNERS =/= HUMAN! BUNGIE DID IT FIRST!">Even though that's not even true on top of all the other issues people have pointed out over the years.This retarded cope is only party true. Specifically a third true. Which is the amount of Terminals in Halo 3 written by Frank O'Connor. Which those specific terminals are the only ones that ever mention the librarian and didact. Which Frank O'Connor made up. Its all his gay retarded OC work that NOTHING ELSE interacts with in all Bungie-era games. This shit is far more retarded than you know.https://youtu.be/_P-uOCKDTAA?si=BArEUyxqLKkB-vWS&t=2025
>>719529659>All these replies saying the prophets were seething that humans were the keyBut how'd they work that out? Didn't they not know that until a few games in? Weren't they just kinda wrecking humans for existing?
People like to dunk on Grunts (For good reason), but if I had a 5foot something grey thing running at me with plasma grenades knowing his methane backpack was in the blast radius, I'd be shit scared.
>>719537849Yeah people don't realize that grunts are almost the size of an average human since you play as the chief (And an ODST almost the same size as chief). Those little dudes are dangerous.
>>719521270So, what's the worst lore rape 343 committed?
>>719538036I think the one most hardcore fans would say the Forerunner and humanity connection, but for the average fan it would be the Storm.
>>719538036Outside of everything they did to the Forerunners? I'd say making Halsey a fucking retard.
Do you ever think about the timeline where the Halo movie released?Also, searching Halo environments gets me the new unreal slop. Weak.
>>719538214Here bro, try this https://noclip.website/#Halo/a30;ShareData=AX,$;UmBs:Tf2t1UM2{hVMDBkQyWe]UYTrJ8{wq{VqCYx9exXXT&iu5Urif(VS
>>719538036Without mentioning the Forerunners, then its the entire existence of the Banished.>Broo dude the Covenant were only barely fighting humanity, they were really focused on basically a ragtag merc group.>OH and they're led by a giant brute whos really smart and tough>Yeah he fought like 40 elites who all had swords, shields, and an entire base of supporting forces with guns and shit, with only a group of unarmed brutes!>did I mention none of them even had armor either? And that they took over an entire ship by themselves?So fucking stupid holy shit.
>>719538282Emu.
>>719538329>gay sex>WITH HATS
>>719538326They weren't too bad in Halo Wars 2, but man infinite dialed up their bullshit.
>>719538282Weird that there's this entire massive area on AotCR and TB, yet it's never used for anything.Also a bunch of rocks outside the map all over the place.
>>719537675its pretty much a case of book lore (from contact harvest) tldr of it is>after some jackal raid gone long established first contact (reach data pads hint some glowie AI went rouge and caused it to happen) it attracted brute attention>said artifact tracker the brutes had lit up like a christmas tree so they think this random hairless ape planet has a shit ton or artifact>negotiations break down brutes go hunting for artifacts but they can't seem to catch them since whenever humans move so do the artifacts>prophets see this and wonder why the fuck it keeps happening>the ship in the middle of high charity also houses a forerunner device>turns out said device is actually part of a really powerful forerunner AI (said AI is the the prescence cortana was talking about in H2)>said AI tells the prophets that not only did they get purpose of the device wrong since it was actually tracking reclaimers aka humans, but said humans are the descendants of the forerunners, in other words they are their gods>this causes both a massive oh shit oh fuck moment for said prophets but also makes them realize they could blackmail their way to power and cover up the whole thing>they do so, eventually they become truth, mercey, and regret, start the war and the rest is history
What's that Plank? Plank says FPS games are for midwits with no inner monologue.
>>719538994I still can't make heads or tails if Truth was a true believer after this reveal or not. Regret obviously still was, but 2 and 3 Truth are so different from each other that it is hard to tell.
>>719533345There was no plan. They made something "humane and subversive" then rode player feedback into an incoherent mess of a saga.
>>719521270Halo lost.
>>719521365Based desu
>>719522118>retconningif there is an equation of "4x4_ _=" and you say "its 16" and then later the full equation is revealed to be "4x4+9-83=-58" its not a retcon of "16"
>>719522149>reach perfectly matches what the step before h1 should bebungie sama... i wasn't familiar with your game...
>>719540347Nigger, the original spelled it out numerous times that humans are forerunners, shut the fuck up.
>>719522149>stoleHE DOESNT OWN THE IP YOU FUCKING RETARDITS BUNGIE'S IP god you are dumb.hes literally writing FOR bungie.the hack fraud known as joe staten doesnt own anything he wrote FOR bungie either.
>>719540506>shut the fuck up.i accept your concession> the original spelled it out numerous times that humans are forerunnersnahsorry but its simply not good enough evidence.
>>719527336>no reachanondont be biased now
>>719527903>Destinythe starcraft 2 streamer?
>>719540627>Guilty Spark seeing Chief as a "reclaimer">Talking about lost history and referring it to it as "human history" >"You ARE Forerunner!">Actually, most of the Guilty Spark spergouts and even the other monitor in Halo 2 instantly saying that they have to get the containment protocols underway>"I am a monument to all of your sins">(Out of game scope but) Contact HarvestWhat more do you want?
>>719532615Don't forget the terminals were written by Frank O'Connor, the literal Bungie janny, with zero supervision as an appeasement piece because he wouldn't stop bugging the team. And the likes of Joseph Staten weren't onboard to pimp slap him in check, because the dude got roped away from Halo 3's narrative into helping with the doomed Halo movie project.
>>719522149I didn't think The Flood was that bad.It introduced some cool shit like the UNSC establishing a base on Halo, seeing some events unfold from the perspective of the Covenant including the shenanigans of Yayap and it did a pretty good job at showcasing the horrors of the Flood.
I hate to this day that they felt they needed to explain where the flood came from and how they came to be.Nigga, let my unfathomable cosmic horrors continue to be unfathomable.
>>719540627guilty spark states>you ARE forerunnerto master chief at the climax of 3
So we can create orphan super soldiers but didn't think to wrangle and breed Guta en-masse, cover them in armor and have them serve as shock troops
>>719540627Not only have the other two mentioned that Guilty Spark spells it out clear as day, Truth keeps Johnson alive because he needs a Forerunner to activate the Ark Array>I admit, I need your help. But that secret dies with all the rest.
>>719531359>if you see the covenant fucking kill yourself
>>719531869ah yesGUILTY sparksorry but you trust this nigga you are retardedalso >1(ONE) "character"(rampant ai) tells you something and you INSTANTLY believe it foreveryeh ok "bro"
>>719540996in all fairness, they would probably try to humans more often once they get a bite of a grunt
>>719541175AI rampancy is a thing for human AI, not Forerunner. There is, ironically, no evidence of that happening within the games.
>>719541175You going to respond to >>719540759 which has more evidence?It's>Guilty Spark>The monitor from 2>Gravemind>Merdicient Biasand with >>719541081it now includes>Prophet of Truth
>>719541175Guilty Spark is nothing but protocol. He isn't lying in anyway he just vehemently disagrees with the course of action to destroy the installations. Which is pretty reasonable given the rapidly spreading Flood.
Why is bungie halo MP so fun?
>>719541175>dude rampant AIfirst off that was only really an implication in the halo ce anni terminals (which was also the time when 343 stuck witht he humans were forerunner idea as much as they want you to forget that) second off if you want to claim him being rampant make him unreliable, then how come everything else he stated was true, thrid spark is certainly not the only one who implies humans are forerunners, even the prophets themselves, the ones who have ever reason to deny it have hinted about it
>>719537352>Frank O'Connor(writer at bungie) writes lore that makes spastics i mean fans upset forever and its not canon because they personally dont like it
>>719541329He was literally a Bungie.net janitor working for pennies when he injected his fanfiction into Halo 3 via the terminals. This is the equivalent of a fat Redditor slipping in his fanfiction into the script during the production of Lord of The Rings, because that's basically what happened. Joseph Staten wasn't available to direct Halo 3's narrative, so it was left to people like Marty, which is why 3 is filled with lame melodrama, and they were so unsure of where to take the game that nobody was watching or checking Franky's work when they relented and let him write shit.
>>719540759>Guilty Spark seeing Chief as a "reclaimer"literally zero connection with humans being forerunnersand lines up more with 343 lore actually.>Talking about lost history and referring it to it as "human history"can i get a clip of that.>"You ARE Forerunner!"ok YOU ARE A RAPIST, i guess that means that you are a rapist anon.i mean i said it so it must be true.>Actually, most of the Guilty Spark spergouts and even the other monitor in Halo 2 instantly saying that they have to get the containment protocols underwaywhat does this line have to do with anything?>"I am a monument to all of your sins"lines up more with 343 lore again>(Out of game scope but)you are right not to mention book slop. a more biased faggot would argue books are as much or even more canon than the games(which is wrong)>>719541274>Mendicient Bias"However, it would later defect to the Gravemind, who ultimately caused it to become rampant and turn against its creators."wow such a reliable narrator.>Gravemindlol, come on now.>Prophet of Truthour enemy who has even less understanding of forerunners than we do.>>719541081>I admit, I need your help. But that secret dies with all the rest.lines up more with 343 lore.> because he needs a Forerunner no no no, he just needs it to work and humans can make it work, this says nothing about them being forerunneragain, lines more up with 343 lore.
>>719540965>guilty spark statesso?i really cant emphasize this enough, you are stupid for taking his word at face value.
>>719541615>lol, come on now.nta, what reason would Gravemind have to say to chief "I am a monument to all of your sins" if humanity weren't forerunners.
>>719541615>can i get a clip of that.https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/343_Guilty_Spark/QuotesIn the mission the maw:>"You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all our lost time. Human history, is it? Fascinating.
>>719541670 Lmao, yeah bro let’s just ignore the literal walking Forerunner iPod who's been alive since the damn rings were built and has no reason to lie given he follows protocol like a religious fanatic. If he said "you are Forerunner" during a total systems meltdown where everything he knows is falling apart, it's probably not just some random schizophrenia. But nah, totally invalid because reddit-tier headcanon supremacy > in-universe logic, right?
>>719541670again why would you say its wrong despite the fact any other times you talk to spark he has been correct, are you just going to say that what he stated about the flood is actually le wrong as well now, then you have the very inconviencet fact that pretty much every single former bungie employee with the exception of Frank (for obvious reasons) all stated humans being forerunners was the canon until 343 changed it
Imagine spending this much effort, genuine or not, trying to convince anybody that Frankie's sloppy seconds were ever the original intent for the Forerunners.>No no see humans can naturally interact with Forerunner architecture because... because actually the Forerunners just programmed it to work with ancient advanced humans! Not because humans are Forerunners! Ignore Guilty Spark despite the fact he's the most reliable narrator in all of the Bungie Halos
>>719541284>protocolno its an AI> He isn't lyingcan you prove that?from what ive seen the only proof that he is telling the truth comes back around to believing he is telling the truthall evidence requires him to be reliable.if we are forerunners and also reclaimers then why does he disobey us?he is a servant to the forerunners.if you call me your master/creator yet you do not obey me then am i really your master/creator?
has guilty spark ever actually definiteively lied about something at any point?
>>719541950>if we are forerunners and also reclaimers then why does he disobey us?Ultimate End Goal: Fire the ring when the Flood turns upYou: No I don't wanna>Uhhhh why is Guilty Spark flipping out?
>>719541950>why would he disobey>why would an ai made during a time when an alien parasite was infecting people have a built in measure to ensure activating the one thing that can effectively counter them be done regardless of what others want
>>719528219I've noticed the similarities for some time, but I never thought about adding the TV shows into the mix. Hopefully Halo gets its Andor, or at the very least Mandalorian, just so the franchise can get a second lease on life. I'd ask for a Rogue One, but that's basically Reach.
>>719542021No, there are zero instances of him lying. Any instance of "lying by omission" is him confusing your identity with ancient Forerunners, so he presumes you already know the plan, which leads to miscommunication between parties.>Spark believes you know>You don't know>He doesn't know you don't know>He communicates in a method which presumes you know>He doesn't feel the need to explain something he believes you know>Meaning you still don't know what you should know even after he explains it
>>719541459no no nohe was a writer for halo 3 and you dont like what he wrote so you say its fan fiction or that he didnt really work therehe worked therehe was a writerhis writing made it into the game(it had to be reviewed by others and agreed that it would be canon)what he wrote is canon.also i love how i search "Frank O'Connor" and the top post is literally autistic screeching about how he ruined forerunner lore.loloh my bad he wasnt a writer.he was "Managing Editor" meaning he has final say on what is and isnt canon in halo 3.i mean why would he be placed in that role if his view of halo canon was wrong?
>>719542221Anon, he was a fucking janny for Bungie.net. He had zero involvement in Halo CE, zero involvement in Halo 2, and was given a writing job during a period in which nobody knew what the fuck was going on because the lead writer of Halo 2 wasn't available because he was roped into the canned movie project. The ONLY contribution he made to Halo 3 was the Terminals, and if you seriously believe anybody of worth inspected them, you're a retarded faggot.
>>719542296I honestly think he is just baiting for replies, in which case it worked, but makes him an even bigger faggot
i loved the halo 3 terminals but don't remember then well enough to know why or how they contradict humans being forerunnerarent they mostly about mendicant bias interacting with the flood and turning against the forerunner? what's wrong with that
>>719541674>what reason would Gravemind have to say to chief "I am a monument to all of your sins" if humanity weren't forerunners.because of the 343 lore.also againthats the enemy who is trying to crush your resolve.thats not a reliable narratorif you were a soldier in ww2 and hitler said "jews are vampires and thats why im killing them" would you just say "i believe this implicitly and im going to stop attacking because killing vampires is good actually"no you would say "well he is clearly lying">"You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all our lost time. Human history, is it? Fascinating.forerunners catalogued and recorded everything in the galaxy, they all died and the monitors could not leave their station, so they havent been able to learn anything new for all this timethere is a period then starts a new sentence confirming the name of johns speciesif john was a forerunner as he stated in 3 why wouldnt he call us forerunner? "Human history, is it?" would never be said if john was in fact a forerunner.also interesting how the full line is never quoted(i wonder why hmm...)the quote isnt "You are Forerunner!", the quote is>"You are the child of my Makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!"dont you see how that changes the context a bit?if we were forerunners as in the species why call us "the child of my Makers". that doesnt make sense.and then the next sentence> Inheritor of all they left behind."THEY"again, interesting, not "YOU"if guilty spark was made by forerunners and john is a forerunner then john made guilty spark. spark would say "you made me. Inheritor of all that was left behind"
>>719541818>Lmao, yeah bro let’s just ignore the literal walking Forerunner iPodyes>>719541821so by your logic i can say 100 correct things and my 101st thing MUST be correct even if you think its wrong?lol
>>719542667there are sections of the H3 terminals that focus on other forerunners (as stated earlier this is where the Didact and Librarian first pop up) in those sections that have conversations between the two you get some implications that the humans of the time of Halo 3 were a bit different from the forerunners beyond the sense of being descendants (this is not them outright stating they are two different races like what 343 later did but this is pretty much the first seed of that happening) which is why people state they contradict previously established lore since it did along with being the stepping stone for greater contradictions
>>719541827>because actually the Forerunners just programmed it to work with ancient advanced humans! Not because humans are Forerunners!if you own a car, and then you die and in your will you leave your car to me and also the car keysif i start your car with your car keys am i you?
>>719542163>him confusing your identity
>>719542774>okay yeah he was right about everything else but this one thing (that has multiple other groups, who all have a variety of different goals) just also agree with him for some reason
>>719542704I hope for your own sake this is all pretend because this is the dumbest post I've read today.
>>719542704Nta but you’re retarded
>>719542296>Anon, he was a fucking janny for Bungie.net.do you have proof for that?i mean if the credits for halo 3 are untrustworthy then you can throw it all out then, i guess halo 3 had no writers and 50 jannies.>>719542338>im getting raped so ill just try and discredit what hes saying by saying he is not genuine in his responsescome one anon, arent you a little old to be playing that game.also i could accuse you of the the same thingi wont because i dont believe it to be true but i could.
>>719542885Confusing identity within the context of believing you were a very specific Forerunner, you share the exact same genetic makeup of the Forerunners. You're missing the forest for the trees and believing this to be some clever deduction.>>719543012>do you have proof for that?Yeah it was called being there when Bungie.net was one of the biggest social media sites pre-Facebook. Frankie was the community manager on Bungie.net and handled shit like community QAs and fan mail, he had zero involvement with Halo in terms of development until Halo 3. Go ahead, go find his credits in anything prior to that game.
>>719542987>>719542896where is your counter?if its dumb and you know the truth then it should be pretty easy for you to write a response that makes me wrong right?i believe you are wrong and i go through the effort of replying and telling you what i believe.but if you want to "bow out" now and save yourself from having to concede then thats fine if not a little disappointing.
>>719522052>master chief would drift in space for decades before silently dying in cryo sleepThe only people who say this are people who didn't find the terminals and see the legendary ending, Halo 4 was always intended just not the way 343 did it.
>>719542895>(that has multiple other groups, who all have a variety of different goals) just also agree with him for some reasoncan i get a source for that?
reminder>https://www.halopedia.org/Halo_2_storyboardshe can make up as much schizo excuses as he want, but he can never deny the true intent of the devs who made it loud and clear on numerous occasion
>>719526052Unironically more love put into this than anything made after 343 took over.
>>719543060>Yeah it was called being there when Bungie.net was one of the biggest social media sites pre-Facebook.so yeh we call that a "no" you dont have proof of shit.>Frankie was the community manager on Bungie.net and handled shit like community QAs and fan mail, he had zero involvement with Halo in terms of developmentyes that was halo 2and then in halo 3 he worked a real job that is very important.i find it strange that you keep trying to discredit him instead of attack what im actually arguing.> exact same genetic makeup of the Forerunnersi dont remember that line, could you pull it up for me?im looking at his lines right now and i cant see it.if he didnt say it then i guess its not true right.
>>719543314>So you don't have proof!>Proceeds to immediately back up and agree with what I just said by saying Frankie was a community manager during Halo 2 at the latest and was only given a writing job on Halo 3, a writing job in which all he wrote were the Terminals, which directly contradicts the fucking end fight with Guilty Spark, where he says to Chief's face "ye nigga you were the Forerunners all along."I'm done, you're beyond retarded.
>>719543157contact harvest, which was also written by one of the actual main writers of the series
>>719543181>true intentmusnt be very true if it didnt make it into the final game.
>>719543408>booknot a primary source sorry but you know the rules anon.
>>719543104Ill bite just this once but only because you’re so genuinely retarded you couldnt possibly be baiting >"You are the child of my Makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!"He says child of my makers to denote the massive time gap between the era he was created and when the game takes place. You are a descendant of the forerunners, hence their child, hence his very next statement that your retarded logic forced you to ignore where he literally states, you ARE forerunner. Nothing said before this contradicts it. You, a forerunner, have forgotten your past, you are their descendent hence the child of his creator, the ancient forerunner.>Inheritor of all they left behind.Again, implying ancient forerunner, not present day ones which have forgotten all their history and technology.>"You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all our lost time. Human history, is it? Fascinating.He specifically says human history because that is what modern forerunners call themselves. Again your retarded logic only works if you completely omit parts of the sentence, such as “to have a record of all OUR lost time”.>what reason would Gravemind have to say to chief "I am a monument to all of your sins" if humanity weren't forerunners.Theres not even an argument here, you just made up some bs random headcannon about what the gravemind might have been doing.
>>719543370>I'm donei accept your concession>was only given a writing job on Halo 3, a writing job in which all he wrote were the Terminals, actually i corrected this and stated his actual job was managing editor.much higher role than just a writer.
>>719543420that was more due to Halo 2 troubled dev development which forced them to scrap the final few levels, the fact they even had a slide outright stating humans are forerunners should already give you a hint, that and of course multiple employees stating humans were forerunners, in fact you can go ask them right now
So Halsey is kind of like a mother to Master Chief, who in turn gets an ai that's a copy of Halsey that constantly teases and flirts with him. Is this actually ludo or am I just reading too much into this?
>>719543464>thing written by the games main writer and approved by bungie doesn't count because, it just doesn't
I don't even know why we are arguing over this, humans being forerunners after the Halo rings wiped everything out is much cooler than humans being just inheritors.>>719543589Supremely ludo.
>>719543562>wereyeh at one point.they clearly abandoned this idea because it makes the story something a child would write>who are the forerunners>>humansoh well fuck case closed i guess.boring as fuck.
>>719543685>because, it just doesn'tbecause its a game franchise not a book franchisegames are primary lorebooks/comics are secondary lorewhatever else is even lower than that.this has been known for 20 years anon.
>>719543909>they clearly abandoned the idea>so long as you ignore the parts where they made it obvious they didn't
>>719543909>Forerunners being ancient humans that had to start from scratch again after wiping out the galaxy is more childish than humans being given the next in line to rule the galaxy by the ancient alien species
>>719543887Halsey was smart, she knew what a man needs to keep him going. Even made the ai nude as well
>>719543952>games are primary lore okay so in that case you will have to agree guilty spark stating you are forerunner is correct then, after all there is nothing in the game to suggest he is wrong
>>719522052Is there any Halo fan who would've actually minded getting a new protagonist for 4? I know I wouldn't have. You could even keep the fucking retarded but so be it "forerunners return" plotline; exploring a whole new dynamic against a fresh alien race playing a new character would work a lot better than shoehorning fuckin Cortana into everything. Later, you could set up a "humanity's ultra fucked" moment, THEN let you play Chief. Would've been kino as shit.
>>719543959if it was so important why did they cut the halo 2 ending?>>719543997after reading what you wrote i dont think you understand new or old lore desu.>>719544016thats not what i said at allsomething being primary lore doesnt mean that everything every character says is true>While fighting alongside allied Sangheili, they will call John-117 Demoni guess john IS a demon.no no you cant interpret it in any way you HAVE TO TAKE IT LITERALLYespecially since there is nothing in the game saying john ISNT a demon.
>>719544157I wouldn't have minded, but you would need a good team of writers to make the post-war era feel realistic and good, which 343 doesn't have the chops for.
>>719522149I mostly agree on The Flood, but the bits where you get to be in Keyes' head as he's getting absorbed were bretty gud.
>>719544176>after reading what you wrote i dont think you understand new or old lore desu.How am I wrong?Bungie lore:>Forerunners (Humans) constructed the Halo arrays in their war against the flood and wiped the entire galaxy of every living thing, some of them stayed on shield worlds protected from the blast, others had to be reconstructed from the ark that landed on Earth, allowing them to start again343 lore:>Forerunners was once at war with humanity over the mantle and nuked us back to the stone age, however, we were given special things for one day chief to be born and for us to take the mantle.The 343 lore is a bit iffy though, it's what I remember from Halo 4.
>>719544176>why did they cut itbecause they had deadlines to meet>thats not what I saidits pretty what you were trying to do, until you then remembered none of the primary lore in the og games supports your retarded arguements at all, nowhere in the og games is it implied spark was wrong about the connection, not was it implied anywhere the prophets were wrong in regards to humans being forerunners, nor is it implied the gravemind was fucking you with implying that connection, not even the terminals imply mendicant was wrong, which is why you had to use post retcon copes, but guess what they aren't primary lore by your logic (which you only started caring about since another source shits all of your claim) and again the devs have stated numerous there intend was humans and forerunners being the same, and again you can even ask them to make sure, you won't since then you would have to admit forerunners being a different race is a retcon
Forerunner this, humanity that, I'm just more mad about the Halo 4 artstyle making forerunner shit look less cool than even Halo: Japan
>>719527147>attempts to genocide a race>glasses them from orbit >gets deceived by the Prophets for 3.400 years>spergs out the instant their honor guard title is removed >descend into a dark age once said Prophets disappearPathetic
>>719528219Were the Halo spin-off games ever divisive? I don't remember anyone complaining about them back in the day.
>>719545339Most people didn't bother with Wars, and only bought/rented ODST for Recon and the Reach beta. Reach was very divisive.
>>719545665Huh, weird, all my friends liked ODST and Reach. I think I was the only person I knew who played wars because I've always liked RTS games. Granted, that was middle school and high school, so maybe older people had other thoughts.
>>719545339ODST was more divisive back in the day, but that was more to do with the fact despite it being a glorified dlc it was the same price as a big game during that time period, said division ended the moment people were able to get it for much cheaper
>>719545818nah ODST still sucks ass
>>719545984nah ODST is better than 3
>>719546046which doesn't say much
>>719546130That alone puts it as the second best campaign in the series.
>>719545339The kindest thing you can say about how Reach was received is it was divisive. ODST had people being mad that it was full price, people mad that Bungie blatantly lied with all the "you are a regular human" stuff. Wars people didn't really talk about much. Babies first RTS so I didn't really touch it.
>>719544195Timeskip 10-20 years. You now play as a brand-new Spartan IV who works for ONI as part of a black ops unit. You're not as strong or tough as Chief, but your suit is more advanced, and you have all the fanciest toys available. Human separatists are squaring off against both the UNSC and Covenant remnants as everyone tries to reclaim what's left of the galaxy, and it's your job to make sure the good guys win. Brutes and Jackals have both emerged as regional powers, with Elites largely occupied with killing each other in a series of succession crises. War is everywhere.The CLF have reorganized into a formidable fighting force, and have even begun developing their own cybernetic super-soldiers. Brutes and Jackals have developed new tools and war machines to cover the gaps left by a lack of auxillary troops.Elites are largely still allied to Humanity, but are extremely unreliable now that they've returned to their warrior roots. The Arbiter is the only steadfast supporter of the UNSC and his influence is greatly diminished.Grunts have been recruited, conscripted, and/or enslaved by every faction in some capacity, except for Elites. Everyone uses them differently. Drones and Engineers have gone to ground. Hunters have allied themselves with the UNSC. Your missions are largely clandestine; you affect surgical strikes in key locations: alien cities, bombed out remains of human colonies, CLF asteroid bases, civil-war-torn Elite planets, etc. Support is hard to come by. Most of your missions are morally grey, at best. You will be asked to commit war crimes. You will play the aliens, and the separatists, against each other to ensure the UNSC is not threatened. And eventually, you'll stumble onto something that threatens the entire galaxy - a corrupted Forerunner AI with access to an ancient arms manufactury, hellbent on re-imposing order by any means necessary.Eh?
The forerunner book trilogy is kino
>>719546645>Glowie operations in a post war society that goes tits upI'd buy it.
>>719544195>master chief regarded as the savior of humanity and presumed kia>turns up fucking alive 4 years later>"oh hey master chief how are you do you remember me?" is the reaction he getsAlways bothered me. Fucking random ass marines that know he is alive have more of a "no way holy shit he's here" reaction when he turns up to battles in H1-3.
>>719546872343 cheapened the idea of Spartans by having everyone be one. In the Bungie games, seeing a Spartan means you know that shit isn't good.
>>719544157>>719546645I once started writing a Halo fanfic where Chief wakes up 50 years after 3 and would team up with the Arbiter's son and his gang of elites against a new alien threat and their brute/grunt/jackal goons. Stopped because I don't think Halo shouldn't advance the storyline but I'd rather have a new spartan doing new shit yeah
>>719546872It's crazy how much 343 fucked up, even in the little things like this. I think the only good thing they ever did was make Cortana extremely sexy in 4. Then they fucked that up, too. I hope history spits on their memory.
>>719521762Fuck off
What was the moment you knew it was all over? For me it was>I thought we had a truce with the Covenant.Master Chief, what are you talking about?
>>719540627Bitch they call you a forerunner in the very first game
>>719538036The Banished read like a bad fanfiction antagonist and Atriox is 100% someone's OC
>Decades and millions of dollars spent by competitors to craft the ultimate "halo killer" video game franchise >Meanwhile, Halo kills itself decades later
>>719522740>rebooting CEAnd now they are going to retcon all their shit and shills will gladly eat it up...
>>719538036I'll ignore the Forerunner stuff and say, the Flood. What the fuck do you mean they are elder gods that got mad their creation rose up against them, turned themselves into dust which ancient humans found and fed to their space dogs?
>>719525037I like how her tits got bigger from 2 to 3
>>719525037>Eyebrow slashWas Miranda a dike?
>>719528976He was that good
I still laugh at how the Covenant war doesn't fucking make sense with humans not being Forerunner. >medicant bias was just confused i guess>the relic detectors were just faultySo were the Prophets just jealous and asspained? Instead of "oh fuck they prove our religion is completely false and the covenant is built on a lie, no one can know"?
>Halo went from being one of the biggest IPs of the 2000s to literally who tier because it was mismanaged by people literally hired on the premise of "I think Halo sucks and it NEEDS to be fixed" despite the fact it was already massively successful>Halo still hasn't been ripped away from them even after they sunk the series like the fucking Titanic>There are people who actually argue that 343i Halo is better than the Bungie games that defined 2 entire console generationsLike, I get that most of these people are just arguing just to argue and make people mad, but to see retarded shills on Youtube actually claim this after the series has been damaged beyond repair is just mind boggling, especially since they can't be getting paid anymore since not a single game was a success.
>>719529659because humans WERE forerunne-.. oh wait that got retconned so now the war is a plothole
>>719538036Making the Chief the chosen one was the worst to me.
>>719540627Fuck off you retard, it was the original plan for Halo and they diverted from it due to retarded writers who didn't understand shit. Halo 2's original ending had Arbiter find a human skeleton in a forerunner sarcophagus.
>>719548193You got it right on the last phrase Humans are forerunners and the covenant religion is based on a lie, the prophets did however try to get ahold of the technology that made humans be able to transcend time even if they were killed, to them this was becoming like Gods(pretty much the deleted Halo 2 scenes with the human sarcophagus)
>>719548363You're forgetting one important aspect that led to Halo falling off a cliff in relevance too. Call of Duty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMJ94P4lSsmass warthogs look really silly
>>719548678Reach is retarded.
>>719548674No, I get that, but I feel like CoD becoming popular did infinitely less damage than the total contempt 343i had for the series they were supposed to be managing. Like, Halo was never going to be as impactful as it was again, but it didn't have to completely fucking vanish like it did if they weren't so hostile to what made Halo Hal
>>719548678My favourite Reach moment was at the end of that mission>holy fuck mac rounds in atmosphere?! >we all better hold on!>*worlds most dinkiest firing effect happens, the spire just topples over*>*30mile long ship just decloaks overhead and destroys the frigate because fuck it at this point who cares about consistency*
>>719548678>No APCs or IFVs for UNSCThat's one thing that pissed me off. Warthogs are scout vehicles, not meant for heavy frontal assaults.
They just keep repeating the same message, Regret, Regret, Regret.
Who do I blame more for the state of Halo in 2025? Bungie for mortally wounding the series with Reach or 343i for not course correcting out of it?
>>719549043Catchy, any idea what it means?
>>719548678Not a single consideration for the gunner in the back.
>>719549465Dear gamers... we regret being halo haters. We regret making shitty games. And we most definitely regret that the Players stopped playing our raggedy-ass series. Oorah!
When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by its majesty?
>>719551404Blinded?
https://youtu.be/Txraa3mELzw?list=PLiNcOxS5tg0k_IpajAj-JfAemetuy__JZ&t=127It didn't take long for Halo to fall. Our enemy was ruthless. Efficient. But they weren't nearly fast enough. For you had already passed the torch. And because of you, we found the MCC, unlocked its secrets, shattered our enemy's resolve. Our victory - your victory - was so close...
>tfw we don't live in the timeline where bungie finished halo 2 or staten wrote halo 3 and concluded the story arc he wanted to tell in 2>tfw we don't live in the timeline where 343's retarded retcons never got to be implemented, and frankie the jannie never got his fanfiction canonized>we live in the timeline where halo is a joke compared to the other AAA FPS franchises of the 2000s>we didn't even get a halo movie
We did get a Halo series though...
>>719551584Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?
>>719552001No we didn't.
>>719522309>>719523973>>719524130>>719524524>>719524603>>719531476>>719547595You fuck off retards, get the fuck out of here with your shitty Halo bullshit.
>>719552113No.
i am still completely and utterly seething that blue team fucking finally appeared in a videogame, but it was the worst videogame in the entire franchise. and they wrote all 3 members to be exposition machines and boring as hell.I HATE SPARTAN 4'S. I HATE THEM. THEY ARE FAGGOTS.
sprint killed halohalo 2 would've been kino if the textures werent uglyhalo 3 is the last in the series
>>719549451I have nothing to say to pansies who think reach isn't good. odst is good too. oldschool bungie could do spinoffs like that.
>>719521270Who is that army home run!?!?
>>719552307CS gameplay is boring as fuck. only actual retards want to stare at a wall. making the game faster was not a mistake in the slightest. it still never got close to modern adhd cod shit.
I liked Halo legend though minus the silly episode
>>719548678>mass warthogs look really sillynahhh, looks cool, in fact it needs more of them
>>719548401>being the last surviving Spartan and strongest human soloing entire battalions was already scratching into Gary Stu territory>only reason why it worked was because he still had an entire army of VERY motivated marines, a sassy AI and a classic 80's rowdy black man watching his back>he's actually LE CHOSEN ONE
>>719552453Sprint did not make the game faster.
>>719552243Yet the humans were able to evade your ships, land on the sacred ring, and desecrate it with their filthy footsteps.
>>719553110I already said no.
>>719552608i think halo thrives in anthology stories, outside of the games. the 2 short stories books are my favourite, and legends is cool too.
Post YOUR favourite Halo osthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmMvyjuSa60https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zptzXFVU1eghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsxlQMyreMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHVIFIeqHEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wHLJy_S1Q0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alomvoa7rDohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9Ky3AuF6k
>>719552290They've suffered the flanderization typical to many long-standing games/medias in the last decade. >Spartans went from unethical desperate last-straw venture project that produces soldiers that arent entirely right in the head but are extemely valuable to humanity's survival to generic boring good guy who tries to do good in power armor. Screw the interesting moral/ethical dilemmas, screw having a bigger picture where spartans fit in, screw every bit of depth and storytelling, you're generic mooks now and better than old spartans btw :)))
>>719552307>Complaining about Sprint instead of Armor LockLmao did you even play the game?
>>719553394Perish, die even.
>>719553623https://youtu.be/_BNBc4H9p00?si=ihgZTsV0ZujSrEP4
>>719553636I miss when they were all identical and no one could tell who was who except for the Spartans themselves and people like Halsey.
Don't make a girl a promise you can't keep...
>>719553702Sprint was far more damaging than armor lock. Armor lock was an annoyance, but sprint let you:>Practically ignore the penalty for dying because you could just get back to where you were right away>Ignore the new shield system because at a certain range it was better to just run up and punch someone twice than just shooting him>Run away from combat, possibly into teammates to punish anyone who chased>Force maps to be designed as long, straight hallways>Nerf base player speed in order to make sprint seem like a more valuable optionMeanwhile, all armor lock did was negate sticks and let you stall out a fight for a few seconds and split your opponent's attention between you and a teammate.
This is the dev team for Halo 3
>>719553702Sprint changed the entire playstyle of Halo, everything needed to change in order to accommodate it.Map design, weapons, rules etc.
>>719554034NTA but your last point reminds me of evey normie faggot that replies to armor lock criticism with "I'LL JUST WAIT BRO" as if they live in a fantasy world where waiting 5 seconds without getting killed by a teammate is possible, and where doing that isn't fucking annoying.
>>719554135>Marty>Princesslol lmao
>Chief isn't even the fastest, strongest, or best Spartan>he's just incredibly lucky Honestly kino.
>>719554034Armour lock has always been the midwit complaint about armour abilities.The true game breaking crap was jetpack and active camo.>it's a guy with jetpack got out of the map and is spawn killing now>it's a guy with active camo and a sniper rifleReach BTB was the worst shit experience.
>>719528530>doctors are evilno no... I think i see where elites are coming from
>>719552207FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU>>719554025GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
>>719554239Counterpoint: Halo Infinite
>>719540835The Flood just reads like fanfiction though, sure it is kind of interesting if you want more "detail" about what was happening during CE, but as a book it sucks.
>>719554718yeah if you nerf sprint into not doing anything then no it doesnt affect map designbut redundant and useless mechanics are... uh, game design smell
One of the best levels in the franchise. Chief on a solo mission fighting his way back to his A.I. waifu, the build up to the moment they reunite >Cortana being mind raped by the Gravemind>Marty's score>"When I make a promise, I keep it.">"I do know how to pick 'em.">"I've got a friendly contact.. but who would be crazy enough to come in here?">Arby shows up with a flamethrower to help out our boy Peak, brilliant level. https://youtu.be/92pLF7XUsyQ?
>>719554718Sprint is still used as nerfed as it isMap design still suffers due to it.
>>719554242Those people never played against anyone good(Reach had hidden SBMM), so they never had to fight anyone with a brain. Those same people would say jetpack sucked because they only ever saw people flying up into the air.>>719554438Every ability(except for maybe hologram) was totally busted.
>>719527802The COD-lite multiplayer loadouts were bad, and pretty much everything after the TU patch sucked and killed the balance of every map and gametype. The campaign was pretty good though with lots of cool, memorable levels.
>>7195213653-Reach writing is just as shit as most of 343i lore.
>>719555025>they hated him because he spoke the truthHalo 2 is the best entry in the series. Halo 3 was a complete letdown in the campaign department.
>>719555025You cannot be serious. Not to mention the presentation of Bungie games far outclassed 343i slop. Reach and 3 specifically have fantastic cinematography, art direction, and voicr acting.
>>719554034>1st pointIts 30% speed buff. If the map is so small that "death penalty is essentially removed with sprint", then its essentially removed even without it. We're talking couple seconds of difference here.>2nd pointGoing for melee has always been a staple in Halo games if your gun doesnt have instakill headshot modifier. >3rd pointWhat prevents you from running away without sprint in earlier games? This changed nothing. >4thCitation needed. Vast majority of maps had tons of verticality and cqc areas.Meanwhile armor lock made the game a lot more brainless and made mistakes a lot less punishing, reducing skill gap between bad and good players.>Got stuck with plasma? Lmao 0 damage>Got shot with Rocket Launcher, Fuel rod burst, banshee strafe, wraith cannon or grenade launcher? Lmao 0 damage>About to get ran over because you didnt pay attention? Lmao uno reverse card free kill>Charged into a room full of enemies like a retard? Jokes on them you can stall for free, check their positions and weapons, and maybe even get kills if you arent alone and they have to change targets. It coddles bad players too much.
>>719555098he said writing/lore.not those other things you said.
>>7195550983 has top tier cinematography because they hired a hollywood pro to direct their cutscenes, but the writing and plot are utter ass.
>>719555098>TO WAR
>>719552713piss off broccoli head
Why are all the weapons in Halo memorable?
Halo 3 has the most limp dick ass feeling weapons of nearly any shooter I have ever played. Nothing feels satisfying to use except for the Spartan Laser really.
>>719555137>If the map is so small that "death penalty is essentially removed with sprint", then its essentially removed even without it.Not really. Seconds count, and moving 1/3 faster gets you back into the fight and contesting power positions after you failed to defend them the first time.>Going for melee has always been a staple in Halo games3bab detectedReach didn't have bleedthrough, so if you didn't break shields before he punched you, you died.>What prevents you from running away without sprint in earlier games?Not being so much faster in one direction and not forcing a pursuing opponent to put his gun away to match your speed.>Citation neededJust play the game. Reach's maps were all stretched out and filled with dead space because of sprint. Boardwalk, Sword Base, Countdown, Powerhouse. All filled with either hallways or tons of dead space with nothing to do.
>>719555706>Reach didn't have bleedthrough
>>719553636i think that is largely kept in tact in the novels though. aside from the 4's. i think thats also the reason they kept a bunch of gamma company alive to write about in the future.
>>719555353Why so upset, lil bro?
wtf is going on with the pauldrons in later Halo games they look ridiculous
>>719556049It's yet another "this became a thing in Reach" issue that has persisted. Shoulderpads just became stuff stuck onto the upper arms.
>>719521725Male or female?
>>719555875It didn't. 343 had to add it back in the title update. Then they removed it again after a glitch was discovered regarding health packs.
>>719556180It's been like that since Halo 3.
>As with most Covenant weaponry, modifying the plasma rifle was seen as blasphemous at best, heretical at worst. This is due to the weapon's incorporation of Forerunner technology and San'Shyuum designs.>The earliest iterations of the plasma rifle have been in use by the Sangheili warrior class for several millennia as of the 26th century and were in service long before the Covenant itself was established. Human researchers of the UNSC's Office of Naval Intelligence believe that the plasma rifle's current design dates back at least five hundred years, with only slight modifications made to the rifle over time.Am I correct in assuming that part of the reason why every other piece of Covenant tech likes to heat up and explode is because they're actually a bunch of retards incorporating forerunner tech without understanding how it works, and the prophets treat it as a religious matter to save face? In some ways are humans actually more advanced than the Covenant?
>>719557068Yes.
>>719557068The "lol covenant are dumb they don't understand how anything works" is kind of a flanderization of them honestly. >I knew the Covenant was good at repurposing Forerunner technology, but this is amazing. Is something Cortana says about them in H2 in regards to the Forerunner ship powering High Charity.
UNSC is coolI always like the idea of humanity having a common defence force
>>719558159>completely flesh out and ruin the forerunners, give us their entire fucking history>do fuck all for the formation of the UEG/UNSCWhat did 343i mean by this
>>719558159SAAAR MIGHT WE PLEASES DO POO IN PELICAMS? I WISHED TO DO POOS IN PELICAMS ON WAY TO MISSION SAR
>>719554824The arbiter and chief friendship is entirely unearned and there is no logical reason he would do this considering how little they interact throughout the game
>>719554824Agreed.Pure CBT on Legendary, though.
>>719554824the cortana and gravemind interruptions are so weak they on par with halo 5 to me. such a bizarre decision. even the cortana going rampant stuff in 4 is superior because it doesn't force you into just sitting there waiting until its over.
>>719558463...friendship?is that what you read it as? I just read as two real mf niggas. and real recognizes real, of course.
>>719557650High Charity is a good example of them being dumber than you think. They have a tremendous power source with the Forerunner ship and they just built around it as if it was a giant battery. They can't reverse engineer it so while they have this massive marvel of engineering, the whole Covenant top to bottom from some of the largest ships to body armor or small vehicles are still powered by incredibly volatile fusion reactors. It seems like a failure to fully grasp what they're working with or to develop anything independently off of it even after hundreds of years. It's like if Mongolians discovered a jet engine and used it to cook their meat while everyone is still riding around on horses.
>>719541175>Duuuuude I'm going to be obnoxious and bait for replies on Labor Day WeekendHoly cringe.Anyway, transcripts of the Halo 3 Terminals are available online. For some reason, redditors have been parroting the lie for years that they "confirm" Humans are not Forerunners when anyone who actually read the Terminals would know there's nothing like that in them. Please provide the exact quotes that confirm definitively this is the case. If you can't and would like to concede, reply with anything that isn't a direct quote from the Terminals.
>>719559467It seems really obvious in the Halo 3 terminals that the Librarian RE-discovered their homeworld.Seems reasonable that the Forerunners, having been this galactic society for 6 gorillion years, eventually moved on completely from Earth. Like the USA becoming completely separate from Great Britain or something.
>>719558951The Cortana sections are 10 seconds long, where as the talking sections that lock you in a small room go for much longer, the one at the end of Composer for instance is just shy of 2 minutes long.
>>719558442those ones are assigned to the Orbital Drop-Shit Troopers
>>719559039Anon the Prophets used the Dreadnaught to siege Sangheilios, part of the initial Pact was for the Dreadnaught to be stripped of its weapons (the ones that they knew of).
>>719521270Oh hey I just finished 3 yesterday. Shame there were no arbiter levels anymore, they kinda sucked in 2 so I thought they'd try to improve em in 3. Gonna play odst in a few months I guess.
>>719559897Yeah clearly they know how to pilot it, or else it wouldn't... you know, have been pilotable and able to portal to earth.
>>7195550253 is overhated desu. Yes it's a downgrade from 2 but people act like the story literally makes no sense and is the worst thing ever. >Miranda's sacrifice!Miranda was always a big retard who thought she was the main character in an action movie. Leaving In Amber Clad PARKED OVER THE FLOOD INFECTED LIBRARY in 2 is honestly dumber and more damaging than anything she does in 3. Her stupidity just finally caught up with her>Truth became a boring zealotI attribute this solely to the change in voice actor. If they had his original actor in 2, I think this complaint would disappear overnight. Again, perhaps they could have come up with something more creative but Truth in 2 had already succeeded in completely taking over (what was left) of the Covenant. His only supporters left are Brutes who he has to put on a show for. He's already either alienated (heh) everyone permanently or they're on his side only as long as they buy into his zealotry. With the story they had, his behavior is not a retcon and actually makes 100% perfect sense.>Um why did the Flood send their entire force to the Ark?Remember that even with the full might of the Flood, the Elites and the Humans, Truth was still just seconds away from winning. The Gravemind didn't want to take chances. High Charity was also the only ship that could effectively escape Rtas' Quarantine so any other ship he tried to send out had a good chance of just being shot down. And hard committing to the Ark led him to being able to literally destroying the Ark's control room. If Master Chief and the Arbiter weren't super badasses who could go into High Charity to rescue Cortana and survive, the Gravemind would have just slowly infected the rest of the galaxy at his leisure with no way to stop him. >Johnson's deathI'll consneed that this was a little forced and even Bungie themselves admit it was a forced death. Still, I think it at least leads to some good moments so it's not all bad.
>>719559039You're missing something. The Prophets pulled the "it's blasphemy to tinker with your weapons and tech" trick to keep the lower races solely dependent on them and kept all the really good shit for themselves. They did a cultural assassination on the Elites too over the generations because they were the only ones that could overthrow them.
>>719556503Most of the armor customization in Halo 3 in the MCC was added by 343i. This is what was in the game originally.Also there was no leg or forearm customization.
>>719560746This. The Prophets make everything cumbersome, bloated and inefficient as a method of control.
>>719521270
>>719556503Not really. 3's shoulderpads at least sits on upper arm and fits to it. Reach started to do this sort of thing and Infinite is still doing it 15 years later.
>>719558503It's really not THAT bad. You just play methodical, and you stop being stubborn and use shit the pure flood are actually weak to like sticky nades and the needler.
>makes some of the greatest soundtracks of all time >Never makes anything of note ever again How did this nigga fall off so hard
>>719562015>that post-bungie to pre-covid era where he was cool and posted soundtrack breakdown videos and behind the scenes videos of halo development >now he is just political brained and is all about triggering libs on twitter and running for office (again)I think Biden winning and being sued by Bungie again broke his brain a few years ago.
>>719562015success emboldened his already raging ego and he turned into more of an autistic asshole diva than he already washe proceeded to burn all of his professional bridges and went on to decide that he wanted to get into NV republican politics by saying "I made the halo soundtrack" over and over again (to no result so far)
>>719558965in halo 2a the arbiter quite literally states that chief is his friend and they had a bond. Also the fact that people constantly talk about chief and the arbiter like they were bros when they didn’t do anything that would forge such a bond besides fight beside each other, which totally makes up for the 30 years he and his kind spent burning his planets and people. Reach, where he has trained, is a melted shithole at this point entirely thanks to his invasion. Bad blood that bad doesn’t go away fast desu. Also arbiter had literally no knowledge of how important cortana was, so why would he bother? and why would he not come from the beginning? really dumb
>>719563089>>719563089>>719563089>>719563089>>719563089
>>719562867I get your point, but soldiers making friends with enemy soldiers is a thing that happens irl, even without the benefit of facing a common enemy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce
>>719562867>Halo 2AIf we're including 343 lore, then Infinite establishes that Chief has mutual respect for enemy soldiers even if they don't necessarily deserve it. See his reaction to Escharum's death.Also Arbiter did understand Cortana's importance. >If your construct is wrong, then the Flood have already won. He was also there at the end of the previous level when the partially rebuilt Installation 04 was revealed. As for why he didn't come from the beginning, he is the leader of his people at this point. I imagine he was pretty busy evacing the Ring since if Chief failed, the galaxy was doomed.
>>7195221492a elites look like they're missing half of their feet
>>719562867>in halo 2apost disregarded
>>719538036It's a struggle to say what the worst lore rape is, it's all equally horrible to me. Since no one else has mentioned it, I'll mention Spartan IVs. That one had actual gameplay ramifications, it effectively wiped marines from the game.
>>719543060>Confusing identity within the context of believing you were a very specific ForerunnerThis has never happened. I don't know why people misinterpret that line so hard. Guilty Spark was just using the plural "you" and refering to Forunners and Humans as one group.
>>719529659Jews
>>719529793Holy kino
>>719530329They started beating the shit out of themselves because the elites started noticing so the prophets said oy vey shut it down
>>719530469That isn’t what plot armor means faggot
>>719529793Imagine going from this...To THIS
>>719522149>Contact Harvest.>NOT even mentioning the sad ending of the AI story.Game NOT recognizing game.
>>719527147Yes, and the fact that we have never gotten a game centered around them is one of the biggest missteps of this franchise
>>719541175>he doesn’t understand what rampancy is
>>7195441762 is literally unfinished
>>719553623Heretic hero
>>719554824Worst level in the franchise by far fuck off
>>719558159based United Nations future
>>719528064>legendary>get kicked in the face by this guy>die
>>719562015He needed Jason Jones and Staten to rein in his worse impulses and keep him on track.
>>719568897Need
>>719569038>Jason JonesDidn't do shit and was MIA 90% of the time>StatenBecame even more irrelevant than Marty after leaving bungie
Hostin a session of Halo 2 multiplayer in custom games. "Casual Shoot" in the browser
>>719570737Or I would if my game didn't crash
Ok "Casual Shoot" is runningI can't remember what I put in the playlist but I think it's CTF, Slayer, and Crazy King.
>>719570737>>719571194I'm going in.
>>719527147One thing I'll say is that convergent evolution may be even more severe than an Elite just being a biped. The entire (male) human body is designed to throw spears and to throw them really well.Our feet are plantigrade because it helps stabilize our body when throwing a spear. It is utterly bizarre for animals to plantigrade hind limbs. This should tell you how vital such an adaptation mustve been.All this to say: any intelligent alien races almost certainly would be adapted to throw spears, and their bipedal legs may look almost fucking identical to humans.
>>719540932Why didn't the flood try to infect John Halo and Arbitur before teleporting them back to their respective missions? Like try to infect them with a sleeper flood spore that activated on command?
>>719571783Spores grow into infection forms. Spores don't infect people on their own. The flood is a parasite, not an infection.
>>719571783Gravemind needed Master Chief uninfected in case he needed him to shut off any Forerunner machines like at the end of Halo 3. As for Arbiter, well he needed Johnson and Miranda's help as well as Half Jaw and the rest of the Elites to succeed at the end of 2 and they barely were able to teeth clench work together as is. If Arbiter was a Flood combat form, I doubt that would have gone over well.
>>719571783The flood combat form is cannon fooder. He needed them alive.
>>719540718No the blue haired cuck.
>>719543130by the writing it's obvious bungie intended 3 to be the true ending to chief's story and microsoft forced them to add the TO BE CONTINUED asspull so they could keep the money churning.their complete failure at reigniting the franchise was their punishment for not letting chief rest.
>>719522118ThisThe whole damn plot point is some ancient greek epic shit like the golden or cyclops era of humanity struggling with the beasts of tarturous and now we are too and the modern writers flushed all the meaning down the toilet
>>719570737Maybe tonight?
>>719571783Not how the flood works
I never noticed that the dispersal pods for the flood have grunt legs
>>719522052Chief's story should have been over, yes. I'm fine with S-IIIs being the "fire-and-forget" SPARTANs. S-IVs shouldn't exist and all new entries should have been about ODSTs. Actually, you could have done the history of the Covenant for future entries too if you wanted. The ultimate point is that Chief's role is over and he should be left on ice as his sendoff
>>719570737I already had plenty of matches so I'm logging out but these custom games are still going, please join in.
Host of Casual Shoot here, I had to log out, but I will run some more tonight. Wanna get any word in re: more maps or modes?Different game?
>>719575209Mix in some FFA like the guy said.
