Reminder
>>719564042uh oh, the nintendorks are gonna be really upset when they see this
>>719564042I played through dread 5 times and hollow knight once though.
>>719564042Metroid 6 will cost 80 dollars btw
The top has cultists the bottom has fans.
>>719564042I pirated both and didn't finish HK because it was too long
I think both are worth it.HK does provide more bang for your buck.
>>719564042>comparing a bloated piece of shit with MetroidKill yourself Macaco
inb4 some faggot says quality > quantity, even though in Dread you spend a good 1-2 hours running away from EMMIs in generic self-contained sci-fi rooms
>>719564042I'm a diehard nintendofag but metroid has unironically never been good.
>>719564042Both are actually kino, inb4 Le tendie I emulated dread
>>719564042I think all 3 bloodstained games are better than both of those games.Also mercury steam are shit devs, 88 is surprisingly high for them given how incompetent they are. Mirror of fate and lords of shadow 2 are like 4/10 games.Lords of shadow 1 is good though.
Reminder that snoys slurp semen
>>719564042HK overstays its welcome. Shorter games are always better for those with limited free time, like adults
>>719564468sure you are macaco
>>719564750They're mediocre at best games. Very underwhelming series
>>719564042Wow, I get to play 70 hours of games? Awesome.
>>719565163
>>719564042>game quality is decided by how long it isAlways a low IQ take.
>>719564042Troubled thing
>>719565659Pay attention to the critical score and the price also, such things are in the OP pic for a reason
>>719565896>paying attention to journo scoresEqually low IQ
>>719566004At this point I'm going to assume you're avoiding the price difference on purpose
>>719566121>inb4 I'm not le heckin poor, chud
>>719564042>game with the blonde female lead gets scored lower than the game with the jewish enby leadwow, shocking
>>719565104sure sure macacotranny
>>719566121>get mad please get mad
>>719564042Dread is a better game though so you lost.
>>719564375LMAO
>>719566121I don't like Dread that much so I hate using this example but let's just say hypothetically Dread was a 10/10 best Metroid game ever made, it is a god tier Metroidvania. Then despite being shorter, despite being more expensive, and despite faggot journalists not liking it as much, it would still be the better game at the end of the day.
dread has ravenbeakhe's so cool
>>719564375HK fans also never finished the game.
>>719566494Pure Vessel is cooler.
Nintendo(tm) is the best! Metroid for GOTY!
>>719564042Honestly, I wonder if Metroid actually could have reached the same amount of quality that Hollow Knight if Nintendo (and other game companies) didn't so caught up in the "graphics" war. Trying to make 3D and "look better in 4k" caused games to get shorter an shorter. Eventually you reach point where you aren't paying for a game but movie with minimal gameplay as a bonus. Hollowknight's graphics and sprite are simple but that allowed the devs to put in way more content than an average Metroid game. I'm not saying one is better than the other, but, I do feel Nintendo's newer game have less content than their older games. Hollow Knight having more for less just highlights the issue with Nintendo in general rather than just simply being better than Metroid's current new game.
>>719566487But how would you feel if you had beaten Pure Vessel this morning?
>>719564042It's Metroid, not a RPG.
>>719566631I don't thin Nintendo would want to lower their standards like that.
>>719566725Looks like they already did, after all they released the inferior game.
>>719566631>I wonder if Metroid actually could have reached the same amount of quality that Hollow Knight if Nintendo (and other game companies) didn't so caught up in the "graphics" war.The problem is that Hollow Knight isn't a good game. You can see the shades of a good game but it isn't there.I mean, sure people wank how long it is but for a Metroidvania that just makes it feel tedious, especially with the amount of backtracking there is and how slow the knight is. Most Metroidvanias after Super figured out that both of those things are a bad combination which is why they tend to have a lot of short cuts, hub areas and have the player character start out with a fast moving speed.I should also add that Hollow Night's bosses aren't particularly engaging since most of them can just be attacked whenever they're on screen, there's no "oh that's how you do it" moment.>I do feel Nintendo's newer game have less content than their older gamesThat depends entirely on how you define content and by the look of it you don't actually have a definition.
>>719564042Nintendo will sell a pack-in game for full price. They’re the greediest company in gaming.
>>719567387Imagine thinking Nintendo made Hollow Knight.
>>719568195>The problem is that Hollow Knight isn't a good gameSure>>719568278They made a couple of good games... In the past, at least.
>>719568195>hub areasLack hub areas*Excuse me. Oh and before someone goes on an anti-Nintendo tirade my favorite Metroidvania is Blaster Master Zero 2.
>>719564042Thanks for reminding me to replay Dread. Oh, Hollow Knight is cool too I guess.
>>719564042hollow knight is literally 10 times better than metroid dread too. its not even comparable. people who buy nintendo slopware are mentally ill.
>>719568508Okay, how.
>>719568195>wanting boring puzzle bosses
>>719564042I pirated Top on Yuzu and I thought it was alright.I won't even pirate Bottom because the fanbase is full of trannies.
>>719564042What does this have to do with how fun they are to play
>>719568878I'm glad you asked, it so happens that the $60 one is way less fun to play than the $15 one. Glad I could clear that up for you.
>>719564042i had more fun with dread(played on yuzu)paid 15 bucks for hollow knight and didn't enjoy for 30 minutes
Played both, didn't finish Hollow trash cause it was extremely boring. I think i had a better time with ori 2 and that game was also boring
>>719569132Are you going to answer my question though
Silksong was in development almost as long as Concord, do you think it will be almost as good?
>>719569132What if the $60 one was more fun? It would render the OP's point entirely moot.
>caring about metascorenormoid thread
>>719564375So many fans they just recently played Hollow Knight for the first time recently on steam.
>>719569223>He likes Ori over HKCasual SPOTTED
Hollow knight feels and plays like a $20 game. Dread feels and plays like a $60 dollar game.Glad i could help.
>>719564042Top is a good gameBottom is FOTM indie slop
>>719569223This is tendie cope.
>>719569419Ori is harder doe?
>>719564042>Holy shit two cakes!Imagine being so poor that you can't afford both games. I will buy Silksong AND I'll also buy Prime 4 and play it on Switch 2 once it releases and I'll have fun with both games, but you go and enjoy your sour grapes, anon.
>>719564042Metroid doesn't look like a flash game so it wins by default. Sorry.
>>719569767It looks worse than a flash game though, it looks like a Unity asset flip.
>>719566631Dred looks like absolute shit, no effort went into making it look good.
>>719569223I kind of have to agree. I've tried to play hollow knight on multiple occasions now and it just can't hold my attention because it's so dull.
>>719564042Thanks for the reminder. Loved both of them. What do you want to discuss?Can't wait for Silksong, btw.
>>7195640427 hours of fun beats 60 hours of shit.
>>719564042Which one sold more?
>>719564042>I can start, finish, and 100% Metroid Dread in the same timeframe I could start and still not have any fun with Hollow Knight because it's boring for 26 hoursWow, sounds like those $60 were worth it.
>>719570629Hopefully not Metroid. Metroid has retained a really high quality because it doesn't sell that much
>>719564042Hollow Knight drags though
>>719570790so does mehtroid
if they discounter Dread to forty dollars I would get it
>>719570826The only Metroid games that drag are the Prime games and Other M.
>>719570629Dread.It's currently the best selling Metroidvania.
>>719564042Hollow Knight is rated fairly for a 15 dollar game. It wouldn't receive the praise it gets if it was 60 bucks
>>719570826Can you people make up your mind?
>>719564375You'd have a point if this wasn't Hollow Knight we were talking about, the fans are almost as bad as Undertale.
>>719570629Easily Hollow Knight by virtue of being in every console available and having low PC requirements, but Dread is also the highest sold Metroid game ever, so take that as you will.
>>719571087I wouldn't rate Hollow Knight a 90 if it were fucking free.
>>719570941Prime especially is a gigaslog.
>>719571087free on gamepass
>>719564042>Dread>more upgrades, less HK drip feeding>non funko pop graphics>better movement>better Combat>intentional sequence breaks Dread is by far the better game, idiot>>719564415Y'know Daggerfall is free and you can play it for 5000 hours to see all the randomly generated featureless lands, towns, dungeons and quests. That games obviously the most BANG for your BUCK. Who needs standards amirite?
>>719571358Plus you get epic marvel movie cutscenes and seamus screams because she's made and angery. So cool and bad a**.
>>719566631>Hollowknight's graphics and sprite are simple which is why they can do so much contenti will never cease to be amazed at how much /v/ is completely clueless and absolutely devoid of any sense of how much things cost to developgo ahead. make a game of HK's size with almost exclusively hand drawn backgrounds without copypasted assets. Draw over 70000 sprites for all the characters and moving objects, that being every single frame of their animations. This shit has much bigger production value than Nine Sols, Blasphemous, Grime and all that shit despite a shoestring budget AND the much larger size>inb4 but nooo it doesnt look that good!!! It looks a little aesthetically basic!!! even if you think that, it doesnt change the fact its objectively so much more effort to develop than the average indie metroid-like by a mile. You cant explain it any other way, Ari Gibson is insanely autistic, diligent and skilled. He worked on so many fucking movie and animation projects since such a young age
>>719564447HK has you refight bosses for 100 hours until youre literally perfect
>>719571358>>better Combat(headcanon)>>Intentional sequence breaksDread is mostly a linear railroaded piece of shit no matter how you spin it. HK has some of the most route variety BEFORE sequence breaks, and there are so many intentional and much more widely applicable ones like pogoing on your shade>more upgradesTheres about as many actually mechanical upgrades if you ignore "take less damage" or "destroy this block". So combine that with HK's charms that give you new mechanics and now HK is in the leadanyway show me what dread boss is remotely as good as pure vessel or nkg
>>719570629Hollow Knight sold 15 million. Dread sold slightly over 3 million. It's not even close.
>>719571556God, this the best endgame content ever made for a metroidvania. The game should be $60 alone after the Godhome update.
>>719571726>(headcanon)Are you genuinely trying to say HK has good combat when it's repetitive as all hell?
>>719571556You can beat all of godhomes' content in 5-10 hours, and thats just a bonus in the postgame. At most 10 hours of refighting 40 bosses and facing several brand new ones, while also exploring more charms and combat options/tricksYou dont have to spend hours banging yourself at a wall for completely self-imposed challenges
>>719571075Metrooid always sold like shit.
>>719571765Uh, HK sold sub 3m.
>>719564042and noita's completionist level hours is about 10,000 hours of investment
>>719571075>nintentards live in such a bubble they actually think metroid unity slop sold more than the cultural icon hollow knightlmaooo
>>719571897>roguelike garbageNot even the same genre, retard.
>>719571806NTA but yes, it curbstomps the genreSomeone posted this video the other day and thats without using any charms for bonus mechanicshttps://youtu.be/tmYekt2QDNA?si=6zkvAdDJ_3ia6MVD&t=863
>>719571887Wrong.
>>719571453You can't even spell ass stupid hollow nigger
>>719571887That sales figure is from 2019They announced over 15 million now, and looking by review/player numbers it adds up. In fact its surprising its not higher. Probably is, actually
>>719572005Posting a video of its slow and tedious combat doesn't prove that it isn't slow and tedious.
>>719564042didn't buy Dread because I think it's overpriceddidn't buy Shallow Knight because I think it looks boring.
>>719572005God that's fucking boring.
>>719572094saying it's slow and tedious don't make it so
>>719572005>it curbstomps the genreNine Sols combat is better>b-but parryslopOkay and HK is rollslop if you want to use stupid /v/ buzzwords instead of judging games on merit.
>>719564042Shitendo has never been more irrelevant
>>719572094>>719572126tendie coping with his $60 indie game with the nintendo logo on it
>>719571358Daggerfall's main quests alone, doing the absolute bare minimum to meet the level requirements, lasts longer than your faggot metroid game
>>719571767Counter pointCastlevania portrait of ruinNest of evil, level cap modes, old axe armor and Richter mode. That is the best endgame ever.But portrait came out in 2006 and you were born in 2009 so you didn't play it, zoomoid skibidi fag
>>719572279I never bought Dread. Also I hate Nintendo.
>>719572026Don't go bald over it metroon
>>719572185>HK is rollslopyou dont even know how the game plays. 80% of the game has no iframe dash, and by the end of HK you have a cd limited iframe dash. you actually need to care about hitboxes9s is a canned simon says game, and it also lacks identity of its own with how much is just a worse version of Sekiro
>>719571986sadly it's a roguelite in reality like the reset of them but you could ignore the side contents and the fake unlockables and treat it as a roguelike..
>>719572072>That sales figure is from 2019It's the last number we had from 2023.Unless they're trying to say that they sold 12m+ in two years which is very, very unlikely.
>>719571767No, that's Rabi Ribi.
>>719572176You're right, fortunately the game being slow and tedious makes it so.Why do you think Silksong is more like a good Metroidvania?
>>719572467Literally just put it on google, they said so in their latest interview, 15 milThey said it sold 2.8 million in 2019. The "last figure from 2023" was the same because they hadnt said anything, but it was obviously wrong and outdated considering the review numbers grew by nearly 4 times
>snoys are back to seething about metroid again
>>719572279>thinking criticsm makes people tendiesWho brought in the snoyboy?
>>719572490Rabi Ribi is the best Metroidvania but there's no point in bringing it up because people just dismiss it as weeb pedo shit when they look at it.
>>719564042Hollow Knight is cheaper then it is worth.Metroid Dread is more expensive than it is worth.Both are fun and pace is more important than length..
>>719564042I always thought that Kojima / MGS has the worst fanbase...until I found about HK "fans".Fun fact: Hitler only had one ball.Fun fact 2: people who (pretend to) like HK don't actually like and/or play metroidvania genre.
>>719572640I like Portrait of ruin, Ecclesia and Tevi a bit more but yeah its top tier. If only you could hammer AND shoot stuff
>>719572870>TeviHaven't played it yet but all I've heard from everyone who has played it is that it's not as good as Rabi Ribi.
>>719572423>also lacks identity of its own with how much is just a worse version of SekiroJust imagine if 9S had its entirely own combat>more cool mechanics like unbound counter>less copied simon says like green attacks>actually good healing mechanic instead of shitty estus clone #39582>literally any evolution of the deflect mechanicWhatever it has of truly unique like the talismans and cool lategame builds is amazing. Its just that everything they copied holds it back
>>719564042I've never played a metroid game and I doubt that as a Nintendo game, Metroid Dread is worth the price but longer does not equal better.
>>719572490Rabi Ribi's metroidvania aspects are mediocre. It's a glorified boss rush.
metroid dread is insanely better than 2d not-dark souls
Stop trying to force the rivalry
>>719572005>Pogo, the game>Using one of the only 2 good examples of bosses in the entire game (which is dlc to boot and came way after the game released)Lole
I prefer shorter games. I pirated Metroid and beat it before release.
>>719573531So Hollow Knight's postgame?
>>719573702>pogo, the game stop fighting the first 5 baby bosses in the most boring way ever>good bossessly, nkg, pure vessel, absrad, failed champion, soul tyrant, white defender, grey prince zote, lost kin, hollow knight, mantis lords, obbles
>>719574258>so just like the most disliked and blandest dlc of hollow knight?correct>>719573531rabi ribi fanboys literally have no brain. dont bother
>>719564042kek, snoyjeet trannies still seething over dread
>>719564042Bought both, completed both, Eric is a tranny off his meds.
1 hour of nintendo quality is worth 5 hours of indie slop
>>719566639Pure Vessel isnt even that hard I one-tried that fight compared to Nightmare Grimm or Zote
>>719573531>he doesn't know Oh my sweet summer childhttps://steamhunters.com/apps/400910/guides?achievementIds=70
>>719564042You really had to get this much of a headstart on this? Prime 4 doesn't even have a release date yet (or even a month), much less a price. Hell, the Switch 2 version doesn't even have a page on the US site
>>719574345>failed champion, soul tyrantAbsolutely delusional, stopped reading there and filtered your IP.
For all of Dread's faults, it doesnt have a boss with 2 orbitting shields and the floor isnt an abyss.What were they thinking with that shit fight
>>719574406Rabi chads are actually 300 IQ. Sorry you were born retarded. Ask God for a refund next time
>>719564447that was a great part and reminded me of the incredible SA-X scenes in 4
>>719573531Rabi ribi beats Super metroid at its own game
>>719564447The EMMI sections are always pretty unnerving, also 1-2 hours is an exageration they dont last THAT long.
Hollow Knight is also a mediocre exploration game with boss fights. Literal flash tier dogshit game
>>719569415go on show us your proof that they played it for the first time
>>719574773Get good.
>>719575163You already said that bingtendie. How many different people and games will you attack in order to defend your favorite bing bing wahoo company?
>>719575587he didn't even mention nintendo in his postyou are very likely afflicted with nintendo derangement syndrome (NDS for short), you should see a doctor asap
>>719575587never see a doctor and never take your meds
>>719564384That man plays videogame, listen to him
>>719569701>Ori is harder doe?
>>719575931You know what's sad? I legitimately think that they have nothing other than their hatred of Nintendo.
Hollow knight has a shit art style. I dropped the game almost immediately. Also I paid $30 for Dread. Great game. OP is a massive faggot. Quality always over quantity. I’m not a poor unemployed virgin that needs 100 hour games. I don’t have time for all that repetitive slop.
>>719577965>quality over quantity>buys nintendo shovelware products
>>719564042>50 hour metroidvaniaWho would willingly play that
>>719578210It's almost as if being butthurt doesn't make it bad.
>>719578694Masochists.
>>719564042Metroid is simply better.
>>719564042Beep beep beep boop beep beep beep boop
>>719564042>GoytendoAnti-consumer, but manly>Tema cherryTransexuals, but pro consumerHard choice.
>>719564042NINTENDIEEEES ASSEMBLEEEE
>>719571556Entirely optional and intentionally challenging. Git gud.
>>719579456>nintendo>manlyAnonymous?
>>719564325Honestly I beat Dread, traded it in, and now kinda regret it. That game felt fucking smooooth to play. I never beat Hollow Knight because I had no idea where to go and couldn't be bothered backtracking over and over to find out.
>>719578694I know you hate playing games or just play lots of shit games so you want it to be over as soon as possible. But when people legitimately enjoy a thing, they have no problem with it being long
>>719564375You know the term "fan" is short for fanatic, yes? They are no different from cultists.
>>719579802Retarded post. A 10 hour beat em up would be shit no matter how good the game is.
>>719564042Metroid Dread is better than Hollow Knight.I pirated Dread day one on my PC.
Honestly Silksong will probably make Hollow Knight look like a fucking tech demo, the way Dread made Samus Return look.
>>719579917Your shit opinion defies basic logic. I'm guessing you're american
>>719564375And I top from the bottom. Now what?
>>719564042I'm so fucking tired of these indie edgy metroidvanias for dads it's unfuckingreal
>>719580041Main improvement is that Hornet is a top-tier waifu just like Samus.
>>719564042....you dont want a fucking metroidvania to last longer than 10 hours. I will be honest, the first time I played Hollow Knight, It just was boring. Until you get the Mantis claw upgrade, its just a shitty jump and run game. You want metroidvanias have smooth and fast movement. Not whatever Hollow Knights first 3 hours are.
>>719566385>>719566510>>719569415>>719571157>>719579910>>719580085lmao seething tendies self reporting
>>719564042I've been playing HK for the first time. Is the level of backtracking in this game pretty standard for metroidvanias or is it excessive even for the genre?
>>719580202Is she going to emote and talk? It's weird how they made the silent protagonist in the last game an important plot point, like I didn't really need an explanation for why my character doesn't talk.
>>719580326The problem is that you're unusually slow for a metroidvania until you learn certain movement options way too late into the game. Just blast through progression until that point, then start exploring.
>>719579773>traded it inPeople participate in this Jewery? Seriously? "Traded it in" you mean you got robbed? You realize there are NUMEROUS great private party trading services so you can actually get a majority of your money back right? Why are you giving it to Kikestop for 5 dollars so they can turn around and sell it for 50 dollars used. You're one hell of a chump anon.
>>719564042>made up numbersHK is 8 hours being generous.
>>719580326>Is the level of backtracking in this game pretty standard for metroidvanias or is it excessive even for the genre?Good Metroidvanias usually don't have a lot of backtracking unless you want to find secrets and such. The problem is that Hollow Knight has more Dark Souls influence, which was more of a dungeon crawler than anything, but the map is big and open so it feels like it's making you waste time when you don't know exactly what to do next. Roaming in Super Metroid feels like exploring the world to find the next way to progress, and in Symphony of the Night there is no reason to roam around unless you want to re-visit a specific area.
>>719580749in 8 hours average player is not even gonna get 1st dreamer
>>719580749I played the game recently and it took me more than 20 hours.
>>719580631Hear hear. Nintendo prices never drop, I was able to sell my entire Switch library for like 85% the retail price 5 years after buying them. People were LINING UP to buy it.
>>719580749tendoid post
>>719565659Tendies most desperate copeEnjoy $80 indie tier games cultist.
>>719564384GET OUT OF MY WALLS
Silksong is going to kill GTA 6
>>719564042It's great when indie devs aren't corrupted by success and greed.
Hollow Knight was just Steam kiddie's first Metroidvania.
>>719581435lmao, if anything the "damage" silksong does is immediately gonna be negated by GTA
>>719581606Pretty much and then you have the NDSers using it for shitposting purposes like Palworld.
>>719581606Which is kinda weird considering Guacamelee, Ori, Axiom Verge, and Environmental Station Alpha were all out before Hollow Knight.
>>719564042>26 hoursThis is why I haven't even played Hollow Knight yet despite owning it for years. That's way too fuckin long for a Metroidvania.
>>719581983ESA is the only good game you posted.
>>719581983I don't even like Hollow Knight that much and even I know it's leagues above that crap.
>game that cost more to create is more expensiveShocking. This thread and board has serious Nintendo Derangement syndrome. Hollow Knight is overrated derivative shit anyways and half of its profit should go to Nintendo in royalties for ripping off Metroid to begin with.
>>719581983Dark souls basically made everyone realize they love conquering bosses and none of the metroidvanias did that, not to that extend. Most bosses before were either gimmicks or introduced with 0 thought.We can argue Rayman is the best because of that but that game just has the worst movement of any platformer.
>>719582379Man, Souls really is the biggest influence on video games in the last 15 years.
>>719582357If anything, Konami should reap the benefits more because it seems to be ripping off Castlevania more. Too bad Konami doesn't give enough of a fuck about Castlevania to bother
>>719570629>game sold for a third of the price on every console under the sun or a game 3 times as expensive on a single platform>hur which one sold moreFucking retard
>tendies crying that his friends at Nintendo are getting flak for charging $70 because other companies making comparable games charge $20 Tendies gonna make Nintendo rich this gen lmao $80 Kirby lmfaoooooool
>>719582612You are posting it ironically but sometimes it just takes 1 game done somewhat correctly so people realize something IS fun.Portal pretty much made everyone realize puzzle games can be entertaining and not just stuff for extreme nerds.Skyrim made everyone realize they really want to buy the same game 6 times.
I liked and played both.Didn't like the Emmi's though, SA-X was neat and scary and eventually you grew strong enough to fight it, the emmi's you need some magical space laser to defeat and its fucking gay, I studied speedrun strats for them just I could cut their sections shorter.That said Dread has the best movement of any Metroid.
>>719582357>accuses others of insanity while himself being insane
>>719564042Hollow Knight is one of the best games ever madeMetroid Dread… is a Nintendo IP made by some no-name Spaniards. It’s not bad, but it’s not great either. My main problem with 2D Metroid is how short the games are. Dread felt like it was just hitting its stride, then suddenly it ends. I beat every single 2D Metroid in < 5 hours on a blind playthrough, they don’t have enough content beyond going for 100% collectibles. Hollow Knight meanwhile has a massive open-ended world to explore, with multiple routes to take. And even with such a massive world, it’s completely feasible to beat it in under an hour without glitches. Truly an amazing game, and I hope Silksong is half as good.
>>719582357Most self-aware tendie.
>>719582974To a tendie, Nintendo making money is the most important thing in their lives. If Nintendo is deprived of money, whether it’s an actual dollar or a theoretical dollar from a lost sale, they get irrationally angry.
Playing bloodstained right now just makes me hate japanese "games" and appreciate HK even more.Fucking hp system instead of having hit=1dmg and jumping like its ps1 era disney game is such a turnoff.
>26 hour long MetroidvaniaThat sounds fucking exhausting.
Reminder eric first started his tirade against the switch because of mega man, so i wouldn't be suprised if his hatred carried over to metroid and these threads
>>719564430>Metroid >not bloated
>>719584117Reminder that you’re as mentally unwell at he is.
>>719564042I'm actually leaving the internet until next year because I know you fags are going to be make it unusable until GTA VI launches.
>>719584167>it's too short>it's bloated
>>719584076I beat it and did about everything in 13 hours. It's a little slow compared to Metroid and Castlevania. It's not La Mulana, that shit took me months.
>>719578694People who like the genre.
>>719564042>top: cinematic experience movieslop with QTE combats>bottom: pure kino gameplay
>>719584493>until GTA VI launches.Bold of you to assume that /v/ won't just be>HAHAHA NEVER EVER TENDIES WE GET GAME OF THE DECADE AND YOU DON'T LOLOLOLOLOLOL CRY MORE JEWISH KEK
>>719564042PoorfagI have limited time on this earth I'm less worried about cost per dollar than sheer fun
>>719578694I travelled the country to find a copy of SotN.>>719585812I wouldn't play GTA even if you bought me a Switch 2.
>>719564042>top: action adventure exploring kino >bottom: bloated movieslop
>>719564375Based
>>719581435Rockstar can release gta for free and still make a shit ton of money
>>719586114They already have every brown person on earth itching to buy it
>>719585882Anon, the point is that much like hollow knight, palworld, Digimon and whatever else GTA is just going to result in the board being flooded with severe NDS.
Hollow knight fans are a special breed of retards
>>719581435They’ll make story mode free and sell online as a subscription
>>71956404220 of those hours in Hollow Knight is backtracking and walking through the boring levels, so it's not an accomplishment
Hollow Knight has a boss rush mode so it gets demoted.
>>719583374>Hollow Knight is one of the best games ever madeAn opinion borne from a zoomer that has to venerate the slop that was created in their generation
>>719579773>I never beat Hollow Knight because I had no idea where to go and couldn't be bothered backtracking over and over to find out.appealing to faggots like you is the reason why metroid went to shit
>>719587056Dread has one too >>719584628both of these statements can be true, Dread was originally much longer but had to be cut due to development issues, this is also why you have 6 aurora unit (the most boring concept for a boss battle ever) fights and multiple chozo X mini bosses with an abrupt ending sequence
>>719587056What's wrong with a boss rush mode? Or do you mean it does the cardinal sin where it's not a separate unlockable mode, but rather it forces you to replay every boss before the final boss.
>>719564042I don't want a 60 hour Metroid.
>>719564042So Metroid needed to add 100x more pointless backtracking like Hollow Knight?
>>719564042>let's have the same bait thread for the 50th time
>>719564042I don't care. I'm not playing either.
>>719583956>I think you're reasoning with a game like silksong is flawed. You think 33% of the people would not buy SilkSong because it's priced at $30, rather than $20? I highly doubt that.i think you can't type for shit. also, it's priced at $20, not $30, so not only can you not type, you can't even read what i'm fucking saying you inbred hillbilly motherfucker son of a cunt. this is why i don't argue economics, because everyone who disagrees with me is an illiterate retard like anon.
>>719588703(was in response to >>719584151)
>>719587056>more optional content is le bad
>>719564042Are HKfags even fans of the genre? They sure love to shit on every game that isn't muh Hollow Knight.
>>719564375This
>>719566494>Samus, you are no match for Ravenbeak>He is much more stonger and smarter than you>You should turn back, now>Also, Ravenbeak is not interested in you in any way shape or form since you are a women and not a manIt's weird how Adam mentioned that last part during one of his transmissions.
>>719580298I will reply to you
>>719590619>also Ravenbeak has sexy rock hard abs>any bird would be head over heels for himadam strangely had a lot of info on him
Both are excelent, but the price tag on metroid really is dumbAnd its even worse because Metroid is not a famous franchise, and it could attract so many more players if it was cheaperFuck Jewtendo
>>719590775I think Ravenbeak just needed a bf to help fuck all the evil out of him to make him a grumpy bird instead of a genocidal bird.
>>719566121>being poorEspecially low IQ and income.
I own both games.
>>719591443Nepos are irtellinegt and hence they solve world borblems
>>719564384same
>>719592104>>719564384gentlemen
>>719592104>>719592216>>719564384mateys
Gigachad is now ironic without the posters knowing it.>*gigachad pic* "Eating out of the garbage instead of going to the grocery store.">*gigachad pic* "Masturbating to grandma changing through the peephole instead of going out and talking to women."
A 26 hour metroidvania sounds like balls.
>>719568878don't bring that up, HK fans get mad when you talk about whether or not games are fun to play. devs literally spent the last 7 years trying to figure out how to make a character fun to use, we'll see if they succeeded later this week.
>>719592330>now
>>719572943i haven't played it either, but from what i gathered from /v/ the gameplay is still great, its just everything else that is worse than Rabi-Ribi
>>719573531The bosses are definitely the main focus of the game, but it still runs circles around most metroidvanias in terms of exploration.
>>719592606It was originally a genuine flex. Now it's people attempting to flex while pointing out how pathetic they are.
>>719564042bottom game has so many bugs in it you'd think it was made by bethesda.
>>719592930Kek
>>719582754What's stopping the one that sold less from doing the same?
>>719564042I have long game fatigue.
>>719564042I have anti-long games fatigue.
>>719592104>>719592216>>719592282Your real appearance is more like basedjak.
>>719564107just arrived and im really upset now
>>719573531It's one of the few Metroidvanias since Super Metroid where you actually start with all exploration techniques you need, you just aren't told about them until you get their versions with easier execution and you're free to sequence break the game into as many tiny fragments as you want.
>>719565228ok dobson
>>719592930i never came across any bugs in hk, maybe you were thinking of nintendo's biggest IP
I still wonder what kind of world we live when people are this hyped over 2d indie shit sidescroller..
>>719601381A good one.
>>719601381>2D is…le bad!Do any of you faggots even like video games?
>>719568195>I should also add that Hollow Night's bosses aren't particularly engaging since most of them can just be attacked whenever they're on screen, there's no "oh that's how you do it" moment.what the fuck you were doing so well then fumbled hard right at the end
The average Metroid game does not take that long to beat. Judging from that same website, Super Metroid is only 9 hours to 100%Because these games have incentives to beat as fast as you can.
There are 3 +1 people on Team Cherry who need their bills paid compared to literally hundreds (over 200 people) that worked on Dread.Hollow Knight is priced that way because they can. Not every game is made out of singular devs.
>>719564042the nintendo reduction. metroid dread had to live up to super metroid, metroid zero mission, metroid prime, etc. while hollow knight lives up to nothing. the reason you hear "nintendo bonus" shouted so often is because everyone knows the opposite is truetry to find any reviews about hollow knight's bloated map, uninventive traversal (should be a death sentence for any game centered on exploration), or royalty-free-tier soundtrack. there are none, and that's because reviewers serve a narrative built on "small studio" bias. see: chained echoes, blue prince, mullet madjack, thank goodness you're here, etc. any other deeply flawed piece of shit gassed up on metacritic
>>719587664nta but the first few hours give you 0 clues so you just have to stumble to the place you're supposed to be metroid has doors that are a clear indicator that you should go there one you got the powers to open them
Both are shit, therefore both are worth $0.
>>719564375trvthnvke
Ive never played HK, im sure its fun, but ive played dread like 10 times.These types of games shouldnt take forever to fully clear the map, and hearing about how HK takes like 30-60 hours to find every everything puts me off of playing it.It's why i never finished ender lilies.I bought it cause the art style and music were far more catching to my eye than hollow's but that games fucking long.
>>719607485>nintendo reductionHOLY COPE
>>719564042Metroid Dread BTFO Hollow Knight and its not even close.
>>719564107I made the image in the OP and I'm a "Nintendork". I like both Hollow Knight and Metroid. But HK is objectively a better deal.
>>719588116And yet you want a $60 Metroid?What are you, a cuckold?
>>719612224Metroid Dread is a better game.
>>719564042I hate main story quests that are too long.I'd rather have a 10 hour main story quest and 90 hour extra shit, than a 90 hour main story quest and 10 hour extra shit.
>>719613639Hollow Knight's main story is listed at 26 hours there mate
>>719564042dread wasn't very good. I miss the old metroid games, things have been downhill since they handed it to those weird spanish guys
>>719581224Not him but I've been replaying the Halo 3 campaign on its own for over 16 years now. Literally over a thousand hours in MCC on Steam alone, mostly just doing that. If you enjoy a game you actually desire to play it more than once.
>>719564107They are very upset. They're shitting up every Silksong thread and creating falseflagging threads to mald in. They can't even tolerate great multiplatform games that they can play. All mald all the time.
>not liking bothsure is gay around here
>>719613973>liking bothFaggot
>>719586204Why is the white man above wanting to play GTA 6 in your mind
>>719613359>t. delusional tendie
>>719564042Never played Hollow Knight, does it seriously take 26 hours at minimum? That's insane for how simplistic it looks.
>Hollow Knight was created by four people!It shows.
>>719564107Its me Im upset
>>719564042I know it's HK cultist ragebait but>(((critics)))
>>719581435Good
>20 hour MetroidvaniaThis seems a bit inflated. Is it fun to speedrun at least?
>Eric causing another flamewar between HKfags and MetroidfagsOink oink you bald faggot
>>719566631>Honestly, I wonder if Metroid actually could have reached the same amount of quality that Hollow KnightIt did 29 years ago and surpassed that several times over 5 years later
>>719564042top: soulbottom: soulless
>>719571767Play the Megaman games of the only thing you care about are bosses with basic bitch movement options. Megaman has more options than HK at the end of the day. Dash, jump and Wall climb, it's literally megaman X
>>719571358>non funko pop graphicsFucking hell, that's itI never could pinpoint what exactly I dislike about the game's look until nowThanks anon
>>719619441It does, and most players are probably beyond that. The game is ridiculously long for a Metroidvania, but it's not the only one. It's like indies never played SotN or Super Metroid.
>>719564042Nintendies in charge of not being corporate sock puppets.
>>719571358Anon is right.>>719621503Cope.
>>719564042>2 good gameswhy are you complaining?
>>719621571>you don't understand I want to pay 4x more for 3x less>c-copeSpeak up son we can't hear you.
>>719572282>pseudo boss rush that lasts approx 20 minutes by the time you get to it>replaying the game with significantly less options >replaying the game with significantly less optionsYour ideal endgame sucks shit.
I beat Dread in only 4 hours. And dread had that padding with the shit robot sections so it's even only like 3 or 3.5 hours without that padding.How can they not figure out how to make a 10+ hour 2D Metroid game?
>>719621493I replayed it recently since not touching the game at launch and it only took me 8 hours to get the base ending. People here must suck at platformers or be horrific at exploration to get this filtered by an indie Metroid game.
>>719566631You say quality but the content of your post seems to be talking about quantity. As far as I'm concerned Dread being shorter is a good thing, that makes it far more replayable
>>719622134A quarter of your playtime are scripted chase sequences. That doesn't really scream "quality."
>>719572005I gave up on doing bindings after the first pantheon because it's just so fucking tedious
>>719584076116%ing it certainly is
>>719622337Seething corpo slave
>>719619441it looks and controls a lot better the further you get into it
>>719623773These are both lies. It barely changes at all
>>719623773factually untrue
>>719623861>>719623937look at how beautiful an area like Queen's Gardens looks compared to the starting zone. Are you telling me that the default walk speed feels the same as being charmed up to the gills while dashing and flying through the level?
>>719623961>most basic bitch dash imaginable>no momentum from dash>no momentum from walk speed charm>bargain bin shinespark>that delay on double jump>Are you telling me that the default walk speed feels the same as being charmed up to the gills while dashing and flying through the level?yes
>>719624206where is your game
>>719622491Says the glowie faggot.
nintendo is a mid ahh company lmao banking on uncs pushing 30
>hey this bread is moldy>OH YEAH WHERE'S YOUR BAKERY HUH????gotta work harder for that sweet sweet (You)
>food analogycan't say I expected more from a brain raped tendie
>>719623961Queens garden is literally just green path againThe knight’s movement fundamentally does not change from jump and dash. And the most charms do for your movement is make you walk slightly faster, literally a run button with extra steps
>>719624582Oook for me more Macaco
>>719564042I don't play furry games.
>>719574692>got raped by the first difficulty spikesfiltered shitter
>>719566494This. His fight was pure sex.
>>719564042Dread was a better game and tighter, it didn't drag on like hollow knight.
So there is no problem if you are not poor?
>>719564042>>719564447Hollowsnoys are so tiresome.
>>719564042>Based on 27 critics onlykek gtfo
>>719569930It doesn't play like a flash game still
