>saves you with moorwing>saves your run at sinner roadMY FURKINGGGG HERO
>>720254393Isn't there a bundle on the ps4 for silksong? I think they had one.
Is there a Shakra fight?Also can someone tell me all the super chievos like you know that one section where you get the medal for beating void garmond
>parasitic, disease-causing fleas GOOD>noble hard-working ants BAD
HOW
do you have to summon him for his quest? I didn't want to ruin the intended kino with baby mode
>>720255187Yea
ez no it wasn't fucking ez holy fuck I want to strangle whoever made that stupid fucking courier quest
>>720255032distilled autism
>>720254393I love these lil niggies like you wouldnt believe
>>720256252Awoooo! :DDDD
>>720255032You rush to get the fleas and go with the caravan to bellheart so you can skip the entire early game
>>720254393I killed moorwing and have no idea who this guy is
>>720256167I did it on my second try(fuck the fencer snail in blasted steps) its easy af cope and seeth about it skilllet
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>>720255032Speedrunners are so fucking gay and lame, their victories can pretty much be boiled down to starting up the game up to the main menu and then going to quit to desktop.
>>720255003There is simply no fucking way we fight the niggas on the left fucking THRICE.Those memes about Silksong not being like Elden Ring are starting to look goofy
Oh neat if you get the optional boss heart in Act 3 you don't have to get one of the others.
>>720257420You still can though, and should ;)
>>720256825Dont even know how you get enough fleas without basically already making it to greymoor, I think by the time I had enough fleas I had already unlocked Bellhart.Could be useful for skipping Moorwing tho i guess
you cannot convince me that anyone playtested broodmother
I wish there was a way to give Architect a skill instead of one of the red slots, I love the movesets but I use skills too much
>>720256893If you talk to him before you fight moorwing and wake him up you can talk to him again and he will join your fight
Is this the Krusty Krab?
>>720258162Defeats the whole point. Architect is the "I love tools fuck skills" crest and Shaman is the "I love skills fuck tools" crest.
>>720256825Did you even watch it? He does Moorwing, he does mist so he can skip blasted steps and last judge, and gets both nail upgrades
>>720258720That I understand, but I like the drill attacks...
>>720254393i didn't see him at Sinner Road, what did i miss?
>found Wisp Thicketwhat is even the purpose of this area? it's map is automatically unlocked for some reason, it's very small, has one of the most annoying mobs and Father of Flame is among the worst boss in the game.
>>720256825>FleasBro he rushes to the mist and takes the back entrance to act 2
>>720261967It's so Lorefags can spend hours discussing what the nightmare flame is doing in Pharloom.
>>720257385Silksong is exactly like Elden Ring but it doesn't feel as unfinished towards the end
>>720257686How in the fuck are you having trouble with broodmother
>>720261967Its so you can get a cool fire friend to pair with youre over powered beatle friend
>>720254393>Beat act 3Final boss was ok, ending was shit, the rest of act 3 was kino thoughWhy did Hornet save Lace again? Just put a nail in her head
>>720257385anon thats a regular enemy not a mid boss or anything
>>720260798You find him having killed an annoying mob that gets in your way when you try to go to Bilewater, and it stays dead permanently. Legitimately helpful.
I didn’t even know you had him in that fight. I just figured out how to cheese the boss. https://youtu.be/WAf9SBmb2-c?feature=shared
>>720262945If I'm remembering correctly they say that the milf spider is lashing out in the void because Lace is down there which is causing the destruction of Pharloom. Hornet doesn't want another kingdom to fall on her watch so she has to go in and get Lace out.
>>720263314>radiance? VOIDED>silk? VOIDEDis the void building a harem or something, I'm onto him.
>>720254393>moorwing>tfw missed moorwing because caravan
LEAST favourite bosses so far?Not 100% but cleared act 3 and Clover Dancers and Nyleth are the only bosses I didnt really like so far
>>720254393i literally saw this guy twice in my playthrough then just randomly got the quest to find him possessed and kill him, barely even knew shit about himdid i fuck up his quest or is there not a good end?
>>720255003These are ants that lost their queen. They are basically incels
>>720263734the queens still alive though shes just fat and ugly, i think theyre volcels
FUCK BILEWATER AND FUCK YOU!!!!!
>>720257385its a miniboss with two moves and it dies in like 30 seconds lol
>>720257686Bro are you serious. How did you even make it far enough if you struggle with broodmother
Can you guys tell me what I'm missing here?
>>720263658Savage beast fly easily. What a dogshit boss and the fact that it comes back and is necessary for a mask shard is obnoxious.
>>720263910By browsing 4chan you're missing out on living a real life with joys and passions
>>720263910I'm really dumbHere's the pic, can you tell me what I'm missing?
>>720263910An image.
>>720263658Groal. Fuck Groal.
Has anyone made a comprehensive guide of quests, maps, tool, etc...?
>>720263658Phantom, she's just kind of boring
Last Judge is the end of Act 1 right? What should I absolutely have done before I finish the act? I did all the wishes in Bone Bottom and Bellhart.
Anyone knows the complete number of bestiary entries? I know that dueling Garmond and doing Shakra's quest gives you 2 entries
What fucking tool am I missing?
>>720263134what the fuck, I didn't have that platform when I fought him
>>720264289He can break platforms with his charge
I thought Pinstress and Seth were gonna be way harder based on what other anons were saying. Kinda cool fights though.
>>720264009fintstone>>720264264sawtooth circlet
>>720264327Does he have multiple places he can be fought? I fought him in front of the door to Bellheart, didn't have any platforms at all.
>>720264178It doesn't really matter because Acts 1 and 2 are contiguous. There's no point of no return yet.
Just got to coral tower is this one of those guantlet and then a boss fight at the end isn't it?
How the fuck do you beat the bird gangrape? I feel like I’ve been doing pretty well but I’m getting completely filtered here, they all just play keep-away and then dive into you as soon as you try to recoverThe map woman said there was another path to take but I’m so mad that I won’t be able rest until I win here.
>>720264445That one actually gives you mercy, there's a checkpoint around 3 or 4 floors in.
>>720264408Thank you I thought it was a red tool so I never thought about it.
>>720254946There's one for clearing act 2 while cursed
only for you to betray him…
Should i head to the right to explore it and finish this map or head up to the choral chambers first?
>>720263658>Clover DancersMan that's one of my favorites along with the baby version. Neither are that hard but they're fun to get into the rhythm.
>>720263954I was so nervous about the second fight and ended up creaming himThat first encounter is such a noob trap
Anons should I do sinner's end before proceeding to Act 2? Or it will be too difficult?
>>720264408Thanks a lot anon>>720264518Wait, is there?Where was it? I did the boss without benching in one try, but it was intense because of the stakes
>>720264673…doomed yaoi…
>>720264783if you do that I'll be so proud of you
So I gotta say the ending kind of blows.>bad endings for not going to act 3>act 3 expects you to care about lace surviving over the whole region you just explored since that's the focus of the ending, the only interesting thing is that the knight shows up
>>720264783Its not that tough just stealth past the dogs if they give you trouble, they stay asleep if you dont get too close/rattle cages
>>720254393im actually gonna cry.
>>720264910>fanservice>yuri fanserviceits a pretty shit ending all around, hopefully a DLC ending can reconcile
>>720264935this takes the cake
>>720256167Take the Exhaust Organ route. took me 4 tries.Flower quest in HK was worse
>>720264935lolHow much did you lose?
>>720264935>Doesn't just slide down, jumps and gets fucked up>Isn't fast enough to try to hit the cocoonHow the fuck did you even make it that far into the game?
>>720264935lmao. how many rosaries did you lose?
>>720264935Man, I feel you, I really hate this sectionTo be honest I can understand the boss runbacks and a lot of other criticisms people have, but double envionment dmg + trolly sections like this are a bit too muchSomeone has compared it to Kaizo Mario and I think it's 100% correct
Using the fire tool gives you some extra seconds in Mount Fay
>>720264793In the coral tower on the left side before one of the arenas there's a gap in the ceiling you can wall jump or super jump up through. There's a stalactite you can hit which breaks all the way to the ground floor, allowing you to super jump back up if you die and get kicked out of the dream sequence.
>>720265047>>720265068around 200.
>>720264910Unironically, does anyone even care about Lace as a rival character?Right from the start, it was clear more was going on with Hornet, and she could be found all over the place with how important she was to the lore, especially with how lonelier Hollow Knight was. But by Silksong act 2, after meeting all sorts of friendly NPCs, all I know about Lace is that she's a fencer that likes fighting.
>>720254393First Sinner literally buried underneath the prisonfucking kino
How the fuck am I suppose to get back up to this area if I opened the bridge am I just fucked?
SEX
>>720265132Ah okay, so those holes stay when you lose?That makes senseThey could make the boss harder then lmao, I figured its easy because making players do FOUR battle rooms in a row would be too much even for this game, but if it actually saves your progess then I wouldn't mind getting a harder boss desu
>>720254393Shame about act 3 tho
how?
>>720264863bweh
>>720263614I read this happens with Last Judge too, the caravan will despawn the boss or something. I'm well into act 2 but never killed Last Judge, will I be missing anything if I don't?
>Hornet actually lies down to sleep in her bedCute, hope you guys all end the game there every day.
>>720265201that's a child anon
What happens if you beat grandmother song while curse with the rite of rebirth
>>720265553You get a cheevo and a different ending
>>720265182I think she has good fights, but that's about it. She's an antagonist that only shows up twice before going to silkmother and then she's taken out of the picture for act 3. The game doesn't mind being more story heavy than Hollow Knight, so they could have given her more scenes throughout the areas even if it doesn't lead to a fight every time. Hornet in Hollow Knight didn't need as many scenes to get people to like her because it's eventually shown that she's on your side and there's other important characters you can talk to which teach you about how she's related to the knight. With Lace, aside from some supposed Phantom dream nail dialogue I don't think she gets much of anything aside from her own words, so the few times she speaks to Hornet have to be really good to make people care and they don't do it for me.
>>720265460starts somewhere else. hunters march
>>720265535Thats a BUG Out of 10!
First boss i beat without using tools Buffs don't count>Spawns you outside the room>only does 1 contact damagegenuine kinoonly good designed boss.why the fuck is the counter silk skill so finnicky?i heard the clang but it doesn't activate or worse i get hit.
How long is act 3?
>>720265182No she's a generic 'Ohohoho!' smug bitch with le tragic backstory, and her fights are just OK on average, was pretty upset when she wasn't dead after the second fight honestly
am i the only one who not eager to play the game after act 3. shit became uncomfy.
>>720265197You will find a skill that will let you reach from the right, for the time being miss the opportunity to reach the top pogo jumping
>>720265592This is gonna be fuckinf hard without heals damn
Is it possible to get Shakra in Bilewater without double jump?I know where she is but I can't reach her and no enemy to pogo
What did she mean by this?
>>720265675I beat all bosses without tools because shards mechanic is retarded.
This boss was so fucking good that I'm genuinely surprised it took 30 hours of playtime for a boss that actually feels designed around the combat's new speed and movement instead of spamming adds. And it's OPTIONAL.
>>720265618>>720265729People were shipping her with Hornet when they though she'd be important, but honestly her fucking the map lady is way better.
>>720265858Bug sex
Finished act one, and didn't use any tool neither a different crest from default. Which ones do you recommend as a good choice for what's up next any solid build to try?
Can you not repaint your house?
ok so you just don't get a bench to fight this nigger? is that right?
How easy is it to beat the game and then wrap up all the other shit later? Is there ever a point of no return?
>>720265858Hornet is sad lonely princess, I'll mend her broken heart.
Hollow Knight>Better story>Better exploration>Better designs>More rewardingSilksong>Better combat>More variety
>>720265858Hornet gets bitches.I DO have to wonder who she was hooking up with, though.
>>720265987Getting cursed, getting un-cursed, and starting Act 3 I would all consider points of no return for certain things.
>>720265983Theres a secret bench that's still about a minute away
I realized with a friend that if you sent the flea caravan before beating moorwing it doesn't spawn. I've killed and he didn't, will there be any other chance?
>Red memory
>>720266052I think silksong is better in pretty much every way, except by not having some things that were added in updates to hollow knight.
>>720266052>Silksong>>Better combatThe mere existence of the flying enemies in Choral Chambers automatically prove you wrong. Silksong combat is super obnoxious.
>>720265983There's a bench, you can find it in picrel. If you take it though, remember to use your needle throw and immediately double jump after to avoid being forced to swim in the maggots.
>>720266120Yeah, he spawns in some other place.
>>720265983I'm on this too and had to ask here the fact that this bench is a fucking secret is a warcrime, I can absolutely see people dropping the game if they don't find this the runback is still long and annoying lmao
Advice for Groal (that isn't just find the better bench): Take a bigass detour to the Putrified Ducts and find the charm that repels maggots to help with both the runback and the stupid ass gauntlet.
These dogs in sinner’s road have killed me more than any enemy. The two hallways on the top and bottom killed me three times each. At least I freed green man.
What am I missing?
>>720265182Nah, I definitely don’t. I remember saying in the times before Silksong that there was no possible way they could top Pure Vessel. I was right.
>>720266052>better explorationHollow knight's world feels so dead compared to silksong's, I have no idea how anyone can think that.
>>720254393Should I use the simple key on the prisoner at Sinner's Road?He did tell me to fuck off.
>smelly, filthy, drunk (at all times)>perverted>push their problems onto others>charge them to do itso the fleas are supposed to be travelling gypsies right?why did team cherry portray them as 'good guys'?
>>720265924It’s hilarious how people just don’t care about Lace anymore once Shakra started talking.
>>720266260Maybe because the whole kingdom was on lockdown and pretty much dead from the inside?
>>720265924>>720266345The only problem with Shakra is that her design isnt sexy, that's the only saving grace Lace has
>>720255032And we're already at the point where everyone now sees why every game has to be an absolute ball buster. It's to appease transexuals like this loser who obsess about raping the game inside and out as fast as possible. This is the most vocal and prolific of their base. Everything always comes back around to speed running trannies.
>>720266276Yeah.
>>720266345I do like Lace, but big warrior map lady hits my kinks harder, she's basically a gerudo.
>>720266260I think that fits for the game, but maybe more rewarding exploration would have been a better way to phrase what I meantFinding a secret in HK>Charm, charm slot, cool shitFinding a secret in SS>Nothing, rosaries, house decor
Does anyone know if completing all the courier quests gives you something?I really don't want to do them.
How the fuck do you do the courier meat quest? That shit seems impossible even with the silk speed charm going up blasted steps. Even when you don't get hit it seems like you don't have enough time.Unless there is some big shortcut I'm missing
>Lace>ShakraPathetic.
Are the delivery quests just infinitely repeatable or is there a point doing them more than once besides getting rosaries?
Is there something I'm missing with the area above Bilewater? Not seeing a map or anywhere to progress.
>>720266518i dont like ss
>>720254393I AM NOT going to fight the Bilewater boss. And i don't mean that i will leave to fight him later, i mean that i WILL NOT engage with this fucker now and never. The runback is cancerous, the little guys you have to fight before him are annoying as shit. NO, NO, NO i am not coming back to Bilewater ever again. Thank you for the attention to this matter.
>>720266351I know, I don't mean it that way. It's just that in silksong it seems like the world is constantly changing, with characters going from place to place, new enemies appearing, I always feel like I'm finding something new, Hollow knight had some of that, but it felt way simpler and more linear in a lot of aspects in comparison.
>>720265983I cheesed this nigger by just swimming in the water in the rightmost corner of the arena as he is incapable of hitting you there. I used poison cogbugs and blade traps etc to do tons of damage to him and then just poked at him when opportunities presented themselves.
>>720266518This little guy is astoundingly naive to a retarded degree, I sure hope he doesn't die a horrible death later in the game
>>720266445Shakra is literally TC seeing all the people thirsting over Iselda and getting excited finding out she had a warrior past and going "Oh, you want your tall action mommy map seller to actually go out into the world and kick some ass and not just sit at home while her fat husband does all the exploring? Wish granted, motherfuckers."
>>720266565s was all i had to see to call you retarded
>>720265460Hunters march, do the super jump at the statue where you found the bush cunt
>Double contact damage, even when stunned>Everything about the aerial enemy AI>The way maps and benches fucking rape your wallet (already being rebalanced)>Shards (guaranteed to be rebalanced)>Bosses that summon minions that also deal double damage>Double spike damage>Runbacks that oftentimes take longer than the boss itself>Almost every quest is some stupid "go farm mobs" bullshit so players are forced to periodically restock on shards >Gameplay that's so deliberately ragebait that the semi-official advice for playing it is "take frequent breaks to not burn out on how retarded every decision is" as though this isn't already the most damning possible review of itSilksong is proof of why small artist teams ALWAYS need at least one suit in the business department to corrective rape them everytime they get too cocky and do something retarded. An artist's vision is like crude oil - powerful but full of dumb shit you don't want and it must be refined by external machinery before it's useful. Only, unlike chemical contaminants, it's autism born of ego and stubborn contrarianism.
>>720266615the fact that she'll defend you when enemies come near her is so cool, even if it rarely happens
>>720266573I hate infinitely respawning enemies but the best advice I can give is instead of trying to fight them just Clawline their asses to gain some height and keep moving. Do not engage.
>>720266452I think people exaggerate this point, the game is way bigger than hollow knight, but I still feel like most actual secrets lead to important things, rosaries are more for minor challenges around the map.
I first timed the bilewater bosstake the tool pill
>>720266656i think its fun
>>720266573Enjoy the game ending on act 2
>>720266573you'll miss out on act 3
>>720266518Lace is retarded anyways because Lace is straight up a kid, she literally acts like a smarmy 12 year old girl and it tells you this in act 3
>>720264935we need more of these made
I'm the only one ITT that would fuck Grindle
>>720266378the game has 2 speedrun achievements and the devs literally left a speedrun optimal version of HK open for speedrunners, you lost chuddie
>>720266473I'm almost sure some are generic and repeat, I did the bone bottom one and another just appeared in place, the egg one apparently adds another silkeater that dude with a femdom fetish gives you.
>>720266378Go back
>>720266760>Lace is straight up a kidthat's why i want to fuck her
>>720266734It's fun(TM) so long as you remember to spend at least a day between sessions to not get sick of it Mr. Hardcore Gamer!
>>720266573take the mod pill and get rid of the runbacks.
this fucking sucks. should i give up?
>>720266782>and the devs literally left a speedrun optimal version of HK open for speedrunnersI mean in fairness this is just because speedrunners are going to play on the build they wanna play on even if they have to resort to arcane and sometimes illegal means to do so so why fight it? It doesn't equate to an endorsement.
>>720266771>these are the people crying for nerfs
>>720266376How is Shakra's design not sex?
>>720266847no, go get that achivo bro!
>>720266760meant to reply to >>720265924Also there's a ton of gay porn of the bellbeast even though in act 3 it turns out that it's a fucking girlIt's really funny how many people put eggs in a basket only to get drop kicked by what's actually in the game.
>>720266847never give upeversurrender
>>720263314iirc in the journal entry she says something about reclaiming "this one" from the void, between that and hornet seeing her as a child, she's probably in part fueled by her own feelings over what happened to her countless siblings
Where is moorwing? I'm entering the next area and I heard he's in greymoor. I don't want to miss him and have to go back.
>>720266656git gud
I don't think I'm going to 100% this game, it's just too much. I might just start heading to map markers and only explore if I'm getting my ass kicked or something.
>>720266847Nah man you got this. Just remember to Clawline. It not only helps with staying on top of her but she also staggers more.
>>720266847>Witch crest>sidequest not finishedOh shit nigger what the fuck are you doing?
>>720266895literally no one said this
>>720264368Seth's only issue is a bug where his hitbox can switch off for a brief moment.
Anything else here to do? Cant find anything
>>720266632Phantom is kino in every way and patrician taste
>>720262945Ghost and Lord Of Shades reveal was pure kino, it also confirms godhome ending as canon, based.
Can you win anything in the game of dices?
>>720264987Does Hornet even have any reason to like Lace?
>>720266947They're committing to multiple balance patches as we speak specifically because they know they fucked up, anon. They made this game in their own autistic little bubble without ever once checking if what they did made sense. This is called paying the price for thinking you're too good for your game to be fun. Sheer arrogance.
>>720266984>he doesn't knowanon...
>>720267005hidden flea that gives flea maps.
>>720267025>sit in corner>just dodge>those lil guys kill the boss for me
>>720266943southwest greymoore. he won't appear if the fleas are there.
>>720267054yeah, you can bankrupt him and he gives you a gambling charm.There's also a trick to win every roll.
Oh what's wrong, Mr./Miss Boss? You don't like it when I get to summon enemies? Or that I can hit you for absurd amounts of damage? Git gud, faggot.
>>720267063I dont think she does much, but saving lace saves the kingdom. Doesn't matter for my yurikino agenda though
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LONGCLAW???
How do you see your completion %?
>>720266984He is leveling the fuck up!
>>720267151you find an item for it
I doubt anything in Silksong compares to Grimm.Absolute kino, I don't see how they top it.https://files.catbox.moe/2yhzip.mp4
>>720266059Probably someone in the Hive where she was trained, she was still growing then since she wondered if she'd grow wings like her father's.
>>720267005secret path red dot, get grab by one of those half life creature
>>720255003that combo on the left is fucking bullshit>>720263734acktshiuallyall ants exept the winged ones are sterile females so technically they are femcell bugdykes
>>720267025I tried using this cor the final boss but they just distracted me too much, ended up doing it with plasmium injectjon and a "facetank" build
>>720266656>Double contact damage, even when stunnedLegit complaint. Stunned enemies should never deal damage>Everything about the aerial enemy AIThey are using their aerial capacities to their advantage. What is wrong with that? You wanted to fly to your needle range to die?>The way maps and benches fucking rape your wallet (already being rebalanced)Cry more, brokie. Everyone complained how money is useless in HK, so they made it a resource of constant use.>Shards (guaranteed to be rebalanced)Don't know what you mean, but the Shard physics needs to change, a lot of shards are lost because they fall on spikes/lava.>Bosses that summon minions that also deal double damageNot an issue. Game would be too easy without the constant double damage.>Double spike damageEnvironmental double damage has no reason to exist, correct.>Runbacks that oftentimes take longer than the boss itselfNot an issue, it adds tension to the fights>Almost every quest is some stupid "go farm mobs" bullshit so players are forced to periodically restock on shardsTrue, but if you can just not use tools when fighting low level farm enemies.>Gameplay that's so deliberately ragebait that the semi-official advice for playing it is "take frequent breaks to not burn out on how retarded every decision is" as though this isn't already the most damning possible review of itThis works for any game that isn't some midless slop, your start to get tired and impatient, which makes you commit more mistakes.
>>720266565I must have missed regular Garmond like how I missed Shakra. I know I'll have to replay this sometime but I kind of hate missables.
>>720267187oh for fucks sake >>720267139reward from npc in ducts
>>720266984There’s a cheevo for killing her with the crestAlso, anyone know the best place to farm rosaries in Act 3? those fuckers killed my easy 150 per bench in the area next to the first shrine.
>>720267191They do top this., multiple times in fact.
wtf passive money?
Do I get a shortcut to Styx’s place or do I gotta do that all over again
>>720267191Ant queen was better for me, might be because I prefer hornet not having a busted iframe like the knight
>>720267112Eh really? I guess I fucked up doing that quest then. Hopefully he appears somewhere later so I can fight him at least once.
>>720267268Yep. How much is there seems to be time based
>>720255032This honestly seems too fast too quickly (lol). If I were Team Cherry I'd be ashamed. It means there's barely any room for tech. All these interesting shortcuts and mechanics and they're meaningless because the speedrunners already found which one is the fastest. Nobody's going to be going out of their way to sequence break or grab x or y item if you can just clear the game normally in an hour twenty (and get Steel Soul out of the way at the same time).
I'm officially the worst at exploring. I have no idea where to find the squiggly eldritch horror item in Bilewater. Any hints?
>>720267063Not really. Pretty explicitly says she just saved her to quell her bitch mother and how she didn’t want to be like her dad and let the void take a child again or something
>>720267226>You wanted to fly to your needle range to die?They have to because hornets too stupid to throw her needle up at an angle to snipe them, and because of this artificial restriction on the controls you have, there must be similar concessions in what the enemies can do. Enemies bodyblocking your path across the spiketraps by playing keepaway indefinitely outside the range of your tools is not fun design. It's not even realistic design because there's no reason Hornet can't just silk spear upwards to kill them besides the game just not letting you. TLDR you are a buckbroken pseud. Not even reading everything else you typed because this sentence taught me everything I need to know about you.
>>720267335>caring about speedrunnergay
>>720266104Is there really missable shit like pre-definitive Blind Forest? That's shitty for the genre if that's true. I don't think anything in HK was missable.
The closest thing to Grimm's and Pure Vessel's level of boss fight Phantom and even then she's not closeNo. Silksong bosses actually generally suck.
>>720267261>>720267279Glad to hear it, can't wait to play it once I 100% HKThis entire game is a loveletter to Metroidvanias, it's clearly meant for people who already beat the classics. I played SotN right before this and Hollow Knight beats out SotN by far.Anons complaining about this game never played it or are just shitposting.It should be bannable to shittalk this game for being a low-quality post.
I'm on a mission to fucking murder the shit out of the forge brothers. Gonna gun them the fuck down.
Sweet dreams bro….
>>720267361enter through the whispering vaults
>>720267191I wonder if there will be dlc for silksong like hollow knight.
Which tools can sear enemies?
>>720254393Hey guys I just started act 2 and thought I explored everywhere beforehand but apparently you can get into an area called bilewater beforehand?
>>720267202>>720267098thanks
>>720267006Phantom is so easy she feels like an early game HK boss, huge waste of kino organ area which only makes me hate her more
>>720267226>They are using their aerial capacities to their advantage. What is wrong with that? You wanted to fly to your needle range to die?The land-based enemies don't use their legs to their advantage. They stay planted firmly in place while you wallop them. There's no land-based enemy who backsteps away from you faster than you can run and spams ranged attacks. At least, not many. It's definitely not every single land enemy like it is for every single flying enemy (including many bosses).
>>720267435Nobody gives a fuck about that jobber. Get the fuck off your lazy ass and go deal with the vessel
>>720267445No fucking wonder I couldn't find it.
>>720267450Bro all the DLCs were free, and they were amazing.People complaining about backtracking didn't use the Dream Nail.These devs are passionate. Wew
>>720267426Anon I meant ant queen from SS.... but in HK I prefer Tiso to NKG
>>720267069Git gud
>>720267335Good thing I don't give a shit about speedtrannies!
>>720264910>only interesting thingunironically the most reddit thing in the finalethe fact hornet absorbs an entire god worth of silk to boost her ascent and doesn't even make it out of the void just so the devs can show the knight at the very end to bait retards into maling funny facrs is retarded and quite frankly dogshit writingif anything he should have appeared during the descent or virtually any other point of act 3 that featured the void
>>720267454the fire tool, it's behind the simple key door in the lava forge area
>>720267397If she didn't have a stupid pointless gauntlet tacked on Karmelita would be an S tier fight.
>>720267191literally nothing is close to as good as grimm in this game, hope the dlc can fix that
>>720267450they confirmed there will be. Though they said its ambitious stuff
>>720267390>It's not even realistic design because there's no reason Hornet can't just silk spear upwards to kill themEnemies are also mechanically restricted in unrealistc ways. Most of them can't charge or shoot downwards so you can stay completely safe below them, which is also bs.
>>720267493Calm down Hornet…
Anons can I continue garmond and Zaza quest line if they didn't aid me with moorwing? The thing is already dead and packed up up the flea caravan. And garmond is nowhere to be seen anymore.
>>720267563Hm, I went through there earlier and didn’t find anything like that, guess I’ll go back.
>>720267519Team Cherry should git gud first. Reading your audience is a skill check that they've just failed. The only possible thing that could have dented the hype around Silksong's release is if they went out of their way to make the game not fun on purpose and stuffed all the newborn enthusiasm with seething and controversy, but that's exactly what they did.
>>720267614RIP
The pantheons in this game are gonna rape me
>>720267560Act 3 is actually fuelled by hype and aura in hindsight. I don't really mind it but yeah
>>720267482So you're complaining about the AI of land enemies not being good enough?
>>720267572So how likely will this dlc accidently morph into another game that takes years to make?
i got all the fleas but i thought the reward would be oil
>>720267191>only takes one damageThe Knight is so strong.
>>720267560silk don’t mean shit even if its godly. The only thing that mattered was the flower and it couldn’t survive two plunges.
>>720267627You are so mad.
>>720267420>the closest thing to two dlc bossesSilksong bosses blow base hk ones out of the water.
>>720267450They already said there will be.
>>720267572>>720267671How long did the DLC releases take for the first game again? Wasnt it like a year each for the first two then 2 for godhome?
why is it that the weavers have a desire to dominate and mind control people? herrah implies that the impulse to dominate is inherent to the weaver tribe and hornet should try to find a different path. what's their deal? why are the weavers like that?is the first sinner's sin that she wanted to be the one in control, or is it instead the fact that she wanted to free the slaves?
>>720267479Depends on when you get to her, i got to her early on. And she wasn't easy, took me about 3-4 tries, for reference i one shotted a lot of the bosses including act2 final boss, and beat final boss in like 6 tries
>>720267621in case you want a hint iirc it's in the one of the vertical shafts, probably the right one, on the top left wall of it
I encountered a softlock. If you leave the Citadel by going backwards through the Grand Gate after entering the Citadel through the Exhaust Organ, the door will be locked as soon as the room loads. If you go out, the the Blasted Steps, then double back and talk to the pilgrim, the game locks you in a "play Needolin" state that you're unable to get out from, and playing the Needolin does nothing.Weird, especially since you'd think people would want to explore.
Literally what the fuck do you do here>run and jump and glide doesn't work because double jump hits you into the spikes>run and dash and double jump and glide doesn't work because you either go down too far at the start of the double jump and hit those spikes or the double jump propels you too high and you hit those spikes>sharpdart's hitbox is too big so you either hit the bottom spikes or the top ones>you can't pogo off the spikes>you can't pogo off your traps because the spikes set them off immediatelyI'm literally completely out of ideas. Is there another movement upgrade after double jump or something? I even googled "sands of karak impossible jump" and only got stuff about getting to the top to unock the shortcut with the stalactite, which I already did.
>>720267604Hornet would never say that about her precious little brother. Especially after True ending
>>720267671Lacesong...
>>720267560how can little ghost be a "hollow" knight if he cares for Hornet?the pure Vessel cared for the wyrm enough for the radiance to latch unto him
>>720267747Spiders are carnivorous so it might just be that? Mantis Tribe were also pretty hostile to Hallownest as well but they were never infected, idk why
>>720267579Except for the flying ones who can and will frequently throw mortars from above at dynamic angles that track you, while also playing the keepaway game. It's a 2D side scroller, both you and the mobs have very limited videogamey movesets and the only real concern is how to keep things challenging without making them super fucking irritating. You ask 100 people on the street if the hovering bell chuckers in Choral Chambers are fun to muscle through while you're climbing upwards and fighting melee mobs on tiny platforms, and you'll get 100 negative responses. There's simply no way human beings with human senses of fun could make enemies like that and not realize how infuriating they are, which is why so many people say Silksong was designed to be obnoxious on purpose.
>>720267770Clawline?You have double jump you have to have Clawline.
>>720267746Like, within the year and the next. They were pretty small though, besides godhome.
>>720266590I came out occasionally to do big damage, but sameyou can do it in the middle pool too once he starts using vengeful spirit
>>720267627git gud
>>720267614I didn't have him help with Moorwing (I didn't even know he existed until doing the supply delivery quests) and I found him in the Citadel, above the room in bottom left corner of the Choral Chambers map. There's a long hallway where he should be fighting things.
>>720267191It doesn'tHell Silksong doesn't even have anything as good as the Mantis Lords The boss fights are honestly really weak but it beats HK in most other aspects
What the hell is wrong with Snails?
>>720267708Yeah and I'm making it your problem and I'm gonna keep making it your problem for as long as you keep glazing these fags.
>>720267747Supposedly the first sinner committed apostasy, aka shunning her faith. In reality I think Gma Silk just hunted down every weaver possible (look at all of the cages in cradle) and gave them random ass crimes to justify it. I also think Herrah is biased against the weavers but idk I might be stretching there
>>720267747They are jewish
>>720267719Silksong bosses were also made after said DLC bossesA shame they never hit the level of the best bosses HK has to offer.
>>720267770bro your grappling hook?
>>720267747Pale beings are nature's assholes along with things descended from them.Weavers got directly uplifted by pale spider god so they're part pale.
>>720267880Fucking slimers.
>>720267874Clockwork Dancers is this game's mantis lords.
>>720267765Don't you only have 4 bells
>>720267069No, they have not fucked up.They are analyzing the gameplay data provided by unity and tweaking things based on that. The reason two of those bosses got slightly nerfed is probably because they saw people dying too much and decided to make them easier as they are critical to progression.I doubt they will listen to all the crying and will continue making choices on their own.
>>720267450Surely they decided to make this guy and his buttbuddies DLC bosses instead of just scrapping them entirely.
>Fractured maskYou did not beat the game>Reaper crestYou did not beat the game>hunter crestYou did not beat the game>Wandered crestYou did not beat the game>Witch crestYou did not beat the game>Shaman crestYou did not beat the game>Architect crestYou did not beat the game>TacksYou did not beat the game>Thread stormYou did not beat the game>Using npcs to beat the bossesYou did not beat the game>Upgrade your swordYou did not beat the game
>>720267807He isn't, he wasn't meant to be and the Voidheart is predicated on him not being hollow amd having a will to unify the Void.
Yo why does First Sinner gotta be wearing such a cute dress
>>720267392>>720267530Idiots. There's an official speedrun achievement and the devs spent 7+ years of development and planning time fitting in shortcuts and other things ONLY useful for speedruns. This means that all that development time was worthless, because it turns out it's just a really easy game to speedrun using one simple strat. So the speedrun achievement is pointless and all of that dev time was pointless. Padding the first act with useless areas was pointless. We could have gotten the game five years ago.
What the FUCK do i do with the soul thing you get from the bile water boss
>>720267791Shermasong*
>>720266186>>720266202>>720266105>>720266590i did itholy shit what an absolute ass cancer
>>720267915bait
>they actually hold a funeral in bone bottom for the little nameless pilgrim>and they throw him in a ditch;(
>>720267915Tell me how you haven't finished the game without you telling me you haven't finished the game.
>>720267719>3/4ths of bosses are "big blob that does nothing but charge at you, but he summons goons or wiggles in place so you can't approach him without taking contact from somebody"Nah the majority of bosses in this game are lame, they're forced to have super basic patterns because they kill you in just 3-4 hits. While Hollow Knight bosses were mechanically very simple, you had way more freedom in dabbing on them, which made them fun in the same way that SSS ranking bosses in DMC was fun.
>>720263658Nyleth sucked ass but clover dancers was great
>>720267980go back to your shitty dark souls threads.
>>720267465through greymoor and sinner road
>>720267274Bump
>>720267747You got it mixed up. The game pretty much says straight up that pale/higher beings have an instinctive desire to rule thralls. Hornet says that she even struggles with this too and blames her higher being half. The weavers just wanted to create a god out of Hornet which Herrah didn’t care for.
>94%>no clue where the stuff I'm missing is>no more sudequests>craw guy hasn't shown up anywhere>only final boss leftIt's over
>>720267807He can't. That's why the replacement ending is a bad one. You're just putting Hollow out of his misery and taking his place for another vessel to do the same thing in time until the cycle breaks and the radiance is unleashed.Little Ghost isn't hollow and HK tells you this, as well as Silksong's true ending
>>720267994>speed runner>trophy hunter>dick strokerMEGA GAY
>>720267951I came out of that door. It was open on the other side because I guess the devs didn't expect anyone to fucking explore the citadel. I didn't even know there was another way in. I thought Sinner's Road->Bilewater was the intended path.
>>720268013Nope.>>720268016I 100%d the game.
>>720267874>The Last Judge>Widow/First Sinner (I consider sinner to be widow v2)>Cogwork/Clover Dancers>Lace 2/3>Carmelita
>>720267661Whichever way they do it, they should commit to it, rather than having the land AI work according to one philosophy and the aerial AI work according to a different one.Did you think your reply was a gotcha or something? We're all old men here, anon, nobody's going to get flustered by weird bait like that.
>>720268003its part of wish later
>>720268032>clover dancersI didnt like it because it seemed like just cogwork again but with one (1) new attack and upped homosexual tensions, was there something I missed?
>>720266026anon we've talked about this, naming your cock your heart doesn't make it more sweet. it would also kill her since even a baby sized dick would be the size of a car to her.
mount fay was so fucking kino omgwish I went there before finishing act II
>>720267946And they're a far worse version
>>720267953These kinds of boss nerfs and economic adjustments are basic catches they would have learned years ago if they had done any kind of playtesting beyond "does it literally crash to desktop at this moment?"
>>720267964I think he'll be getting the Tiso treatment.
>>720267874You need to play hollow knight again, a lot of bosses are kinda boring, they're just easier.
Hornet damaged goods
>>720265182She’s fine as a rival but not as the final boss. lace 3 was a big letdown for me
always keep that thang on me
>>720267934IMO pale king did alot of things wrong, but I wouldn't call him an asshole. Gamma silk did way worse.
>>720267380>daddy issuesLmao fuck off, Team Cherry. Herrah was fully supportive of his plan but of course Hornet doesn't hate her.
i don’t like fartloom because I don’t want steampunk bullshit in my comfy fantasy world.
THE KINGDOM OF PHARLOOM WAS PROMISED TO US 3000 YEARS AGO!!!!
>>720268094You wouldn't know bc of your route but that door needs 5 bells to be rung across the map to be opened by song, you only have four so my guess is thats why it's like that. Song should just cancel though...
>>720268104>Last Judgeloser who has nothing aside from 初見殺し effect>Widow/First SinnerKino but both easy>Cogwork/CloverKino but both easy>Lace 2Easy and boring>Lace 3Nigger>CarmelitaThis is the only one I agree with, it's close to the best HK bosses
>>720267986>be dumb spider>get super sapience foisted upon you>immediately get locked up foreverFirst Sinner had an hard life
>>720265182Widow was a better villain and she dies after her first encounter.
>>720268124what
Huh? Were they summoning stuff from other dimensions too?
Lightning > Fire
>>720268256>I now imagine a world where Widow gets away and gets 2 amped up fights instead of L*ceFUCK
I can't beat this shit, hahaha...
>Doing Citadel's trial of the fool>Ran out of shards and have to go farm like a cuck faggot to keep goingThe dev who thought of this mechanic should unironically be killed.
>>720268014>namelessAnon...
>>720268318Just don't greed extra hits and it's not bad
>>720254393What does the Snare Setter do? I just see an empty cannister flailing around.
Do you guys think I finished act 2 too early? I just find hard to turn my back to bosses close to me and explore.... but now I have a lot of time for everything else
>>720268165Yeah, Soul Master, Mantis Lords, and the Final Bosses are the only ones I remember really.
>>720267763Huh, found it, seemed relatively out in the open, considering while searching for it I found a whole secret door with a Memory Locket. Thanks much
>>720268359you gotta hold the button until it leaves the trap
>>720268027That's such a dishonest exaggeration. It seems to me you just like hollow knight because it was simpler, which is fine, but silksong gives you way more freedom on how to fight with enemies, there's just so many options, you not knowing how to use them is not the game's fault.
>>720268318just b patient and match their rhythm
so is there a way to refight bosses or do i really need to do the whole game again to refight carmelita?
true ending spoolers if Godhome ending can be interpreted as canon cause we see the shade lord for a brief moment, does that mean my nigga hollow knight is alive and out there? I want to see him. I miss him
>>720268392Aight, thanks
>>720267874Mantis lord only has 2 attacks.
>>720254393Imagine playing indie fotm slop lmaooie
beat groal 2nd try with quick sling
Why don't people like lace 3? I thought the hiding in void thing was fun, my only issue was those saw blade waves in phase 3 (And how easy it was to punish divebomb)
>>720268367I don't think you get locked from anything, but you can leave act 2 with over 90% gamepletion if you take your time.
>>720268432He's gonna be the final boss of the final DLC
>>720267706glad you can enjoy bad writing
Can someone give me a nudge in the right direction? I've been wandering for hours trying to find a new area to explore but I'm completely stuck. I've already explored The Mist. Here's what I've got so far. Still on Act 2.
>>720268318Just throw rusty poisoned nails on the ground.
shit, i didnt talk to him on act 2, did i miss something important?
>>720268027that's about half the bosses in HKthe other half were not particularly interesting
>>720268456Three. Dash, dive, and projectile.
>>720268513AFAIK, nope__________.He's happier now.
>>720268497Memorium and go right
>>720268482visual clusterfuck
is the lore even interesting?like id rather have a game like this about bugs and shit like humans are the mythical god creatures instead of some gay bug magic shit going on here
>>720268482Desu I think people have more of a problem with Lace as a character than as a boss.
>>720268514TC just has really low lows and really high highs in general desu.
>>720268206Pale King didn't actually fuck the White Queen, right? I always enviosioned their marriage as purelly political.
>>720268513My nigga is finally free...I tried to break the mechanism by running really fast with him but all it does is reward you with one (1) rosary after running for like a minute lol
>>720268396Skong gives you a lot of freedom to nuke the adds with ranged tools for a limited time until you run out, and then you're stuck with your comparatively incredibly limited nail moveset that forces you to keep your distance and take stray counterhits due to how cucked up your pogo and air attacks are. Hollow Knight allowed you essentially infinite freedom of movement and expression within the confines of the 2D environment, Silksong fundamentally does not and tries to make up for it with Batman gadgets but then makes using those gadgets extremely punishing.
Im just missing these tools to complete the collection. Help me out pls
>>720268586dude
Ok, guys. I'm going to sleep, bye!
>>720268431on the save select screen there's a revert button with like 30+ options to go back to, like an hour apart each
>>720268586that's how The Knight was 'born'
>>720268554Goddamn it I just came from there. Now I gotta trek all the way back. Thanks Anon.
>>720268156That is not certainty. Plenty of games fresh out of the gate that have testers and 100s of devs, yet we still get obnoxious unfun designs and overturned difficulty. This has always been the case, you can never be certain how accessible and fair your game is until a huge amount of people play it. And devs still need to make a creative decision, not just make shit easier because boo hoo it's too hard.Silksong is remarkably well balanced for a small, self contained team. It's just a difficult game that demands your attention.
>>720268010Stop using shitty crests, use Wanderer only and you will have a much better time.
>>720268606did you stack trinket + brew?
Lace is too small, hard to see some of her telegraphs, which is not a problem for 1 and 2 because she's easy in 1 and 2, but in 3 it really becomes a problem
>>720268564I mean, the HK buying a bunch of buzzsaws to kill alot of his kids to make the perfect drone was pretty interesting. And I like the aesthetic of Silksong's weaver cutscenes, alot.
>>720267445>it's another episode of you missed a whole area because you didn't check a shadowy corner of one roomSasuga, Team Cherry
>>720268586He had literal million of children with her (and then killed them all and filled their husks with void)
>>720268206I think hornet just has a complicated view of all her parents, including herrah, and red memory is just her understanding them all a bit more. I don’t think she hates him but obviously she’s not going to make his mistakes again.
>>720268497Greymoor is shaped like a dick, haha
>>720268554Upon looking at the map, it doesn't look like there's anything I haven't explored.
>>720268318it's the most fair boss in the game
>>720268642There's actually a quest that hand holds you to the hidden passage which was the only way I found it
>>720268625Y-you too
>>720268586the abyss didn't fill itself with half-wyrm children that's for sure
>>720268515He didn't have projectile when I played the game, that was added years later.
Best comfy bench location?
>>720268578this
>>720268514Difference being that in HK you could evaporate the blob bosses in seconds because they existed to be punching bags for you to train your combos on. Silksong is designed from the ground up to stuff this. You get the ability to come back with a fully upgraded tool pouch and oneshot enemies I guess? Not as interesting and not a fair tradeoff.
>>720268586He bred her like crazy and I mean crazy think of a ant queen levels of breeding.
>>720268671meant for >>720268482
>>720268707There is. If you want a hint from the game, there's a quest to find the shopkeeper at the First Shrine after she gets lost again that will guide you there.
>>720268636>>720268678The vessels are not actually their biological children, don't be silly.
>>720268514I have no idea why some of these were in the "hall of gods" when they're clowns.
>>720268659I'm 8 hours into steel soul after playing wanderer on regular mode and hunter feels pretty good once you get it upgraded : seems to me you do a lot more damage
>>720268621quicksling bilewaterPimpillo greymoorruined tool bilewater and fixed 3 different wayscogfly high halls
>>720268586White lady speaks fondly of him and calls him ‘beloved wyrm’. They literally share a soul. So, gee anon, I don’t know.
>>720268514All the HK bosses I liked>Failed Champion>Mantis Lords>Sisters of Battle>Nosk>Traitor Lord (post buff)>Soul Master/Tyrant>Dung/White Defender>Oro & Mato>Sheo>Pure Vessel>Grimm>Nightmare King GrimmAll SS bosses I liked>Widow>Seth>Carmelita>Punished Trobbio>Cogwork Dancers>Groal the Great>First Sinner
>>720264665I couldn't figure out how to get to the right side of it since theres a big ass wall blocking your way, figure you go through the other side at a later time
Do I need to do that bullshit platforming mountain to unlock Shakra's quest?
>>720268610Stop spamming your tools, unless you're an architect, of course.>pogo sucksWhich? Hollow knight's pogo is literally there, not that it matters since hunter(default) is better since it dashes you down. Idk, man, it seems you just wanted the game to not be as complex, that's fine, but I disagree.
>>720268785It only does more damage if you land 5 attacks in a row without getting hit. You can see the lil bar fill on the top left. Other than that all crests do the same damage which really makes Wanderer stand out and Reaper look like total dogshit.
>>720268771To waste your time before you can fight meaningful bosses(I don't like boss rushes if you can tell)
>>720266913>>720266924>>720266973thanks bros
>>720268698hehe i see it lol!
jesus fucking christ, my fingers hurt after thatwas that this game's path of pain or is there something worse i haven't found yet?
>>720268318Okay, it was pretty sad when one of the twins died and only one left.
Bilewater might be the SINGLE MOST MEMORABLE area I've ever had the displeasure of playing in a metroidvania.And that's not a good thing.
>>720268675that's 60% of the goddamn game and I almost got burnt out because of it95% completion and can't be fucking bothered checking every pixel just to find a couple of metal pieces and some mask fragments after doing it for two days of in-game time
>>720268514I always hated the Godmaster dlc. The inclusion of those spirit warriors in the pantheons is such a shitty idea, all of them are boring and a slog to go through, which dimimishes the overall experience by a lot.
>>720268821>GROALFIRST PERSON TO EVER ENJOY THAT SHITTER, I KNEEL
>>720268903it wasnt that hard anon, hope you like your new decoration
>>720268729Oh, you mean traitor lord.
>>720268731Your bed.
>>720268943Groal is fun. It's just that his runback and meme gauntlet is shit.
>>720268945maybe not for you but i suck balls at platforming
>Silksong but base level ghost is following hornet aroundimagine the dialogue from Shakra saying Hornet is a child but jacked up to eleven>"why does a child have such a sharp nail">"he killed god and he's technically a king, he also whooped my ass twice"
Is there a path of pain type area?
>>720268652Silksong's issues go way beyond it just being hard, it's that they made it hard in ways that are incredibly annoying to experience. The #1 complaint since launch has been "this game is not fun." All the big forums like steam and reddit are in a cope cycle of "bro just quit and come back in a few days after you forgot how fucking tilted you get playing this and then try again," because it's an undeniable truth that everytime TC had a choice between implementing something in a fun way and implementing something in a way that causes maximum tiltage they chose the latter. TC isn't the only devteam with a Catholic Guilt complex over making encounters fun without huge terms and conditions. They're just an egregious example because they were supposedly taught this lesson during HK's development, where they were forced by the kickstarter backers to rebalance the game and make it less autistic. Only instead of acknowledging that their autism is too autistic, they figured people really loved the unreleased hypothetical HK they had in their heads instead of the HK the people got, and so ramped back up the autism in the sequel. What's happening now is simply karma.
>>720268745>Difference being that in HK you could evaporate the blob bosses in seconds because they existed to be punching bags for you to train your combos onyou talking during regular gameplay?because vengefly, oblobble, mawlek, nosk, oro and mato, basically every backer boss, collector were pretty fucking tanky in godhome and weren't particularly interesting mechanically
>>720268918Play more metroidvanias.Bilgewater is pretty damn tame.
>>720268943I thought he was pretty... great (for teaching me to finally use my needlehook in combat more)>>720268980I like the gauntlet too, runback is ass though
Is that super dash from HK in? There’s at least one or two areas where it seems like I might need it, but I’ve seen nothing of the sort.
>charged attack with ArchitectI love big drill.
>Watcher at the Edge doesn't even have an achievementI thought all these Act 3 mofos got one.
>>720269019I think the reality here is that Team Cherry wanted to make the game they wanted to play.
>>720268821Well seeing as you have only 6 non post launch bosses for hollow knight and 7 for silksong I think it's decent about the same.
>>720269059Only an upwards version way way later in the game.
>>720268821>Nosk>Oro & Matoc'mon now...
>>720268991well im proud of you anon, and will be more proud when you clear the actual path of pain for the truest end
>>720269082yea that's what that anon is talking about with the autism stuff
You guys…is the wind cloak sound the zoomer dead meme sound effect?
you BITCH.
>>720269123>that wasn't the worst in the game:(
Did you guys really enjoy fighting Karmelita? I had such a fuckin tough time with her and I felt such relief when I finally beat her
>>720269019The only ones who don't like it are, ironically, bugmen.
>>720269019>The #1 complaint since launch has been "this game is not fun."That's because a lot of people who are not into platformers at all bought the game due to sudden hype.
>>720269019Git.Gud.
>>720267849>>720267927I didn't know it would propel you forward even if you didn't hit anything (I also forgot that it worked on enemies so I had similar problems with Mount Fay earlier)
>Steel mode only bossDumb ass decision
>>720269189she kept making my pee pee hard so it was hard to focus at times.
>>720269082is that why they are already patching it to be easier not even 1 week after launch?
>>720269165Don't talk ugly about my wife like that.
>>720269121>noskhis theme and the leadup to him are kino enough to make up for the mediocre fight>oro and matoi dont get the problem with this one, i thought they were fun
>>720268839>Stop spamming your toolsThis is such a stupid argument. If you used your tools so conservatively that ammo was never genuinely a problem for you, then they spent the whole game being useless gimmick shit that never helped out when it mattered. >Dude just don't use the tools the game expects you to use means you're admitting that I'm right and the system is ass.Also, the Reaper pogo is a gimped cuck version of the HK's pogo because it's got only like 1/10th the swing speed, massively launches you upwards so you can't chain it, and you pay for it by having a moveset that sucks ass otherwise. Hornet's nail moveset is weakling bitch mode in comparison to the first game. In fact I would say playing HK right before SS is the worst possible thing you could do because of how fucking shitty she feels in comparison.
>>720269212whomst
>>720269019Bro its still very positive on steamEven the chink reviews are just mixed despite the botched tl
>>720268564Hollow Knight is one of the very few fantasy stories from today that actually manage to feel whimsical and mysterious, instead of YA ANGSTslop or tryhard edgelord shit.
Anyone got recommendations for what I should be bringing to the gauntlet fight in High Halls, I can get up to the double fat fuck part of the fight but I'm unsure what's the best way to handle it, are they particularly vulnerable to pogo'ing?Otherwise I've got the Frog in Bilewater or First Sinner still to do, I think there might've been some other things but I can't remember off the top of my head.
>>720269189HK never focused on platforming except for one area and even then it was optionalSilksong just shoved it in every fucking zone and there is no vista because of that
>>720269176the fight was ok but having to kill the gauntlet every time is pure cancer
>>720269212Where?
>>720269215fuck i meant to respond to this >>720269176 i'm going to bed
>>720269223Thats what I said nigga. These are autists that love Zelda 2 of all things.So they made the game for themsleves and realized oh fuck most normalfags cant actually deal with NEStier bullshit.
>>720269253the gauntlet before her became beyond trivial after a while although I do agree it was a bit annoying to do everytime
>>720267306the fleas will move again once you free enough of them. it might spawn then
>>720269189Silksong has barely any platforming in it because Hornet's moveset is really bad at it.
>>720268768Of course not, anon. Clearly the storkbug brought their babies to them.
>>720269283This is a good thing though, and why games were better before normification when autists just made stuff they wanted to
>>720269249And HK sucked in that aspect because PoP was the best part of that game, and it's so short.
>>720269230>i dont get the problem with this one, i thought they were funthey're bad sheo, but twicethe characterization is great and all but it's literally just jump back double swing for a couple minutesI'm pretty sure they're supposed to be a parry boss but the game doesn't incentivize you to do that at all
>>720269121QUESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what was the point of having different crests if you're going to give half of them downward attacks that are so gimped?
I still have no idea how to get to the upper area of the slab
>>720268586no anon he walked her home gently
>>720269249>>720269315I'm seeing mixed opinions amongst the rabble...
>silksong had a better escape sequence than ori 2
>>720268918It’s really not that bad. Hunters March is worse early on.
>>720269232You don't get silk for hitting enemies with tools, they are to be used to maximize damage or get rid of adds, you need to manage them to ideally last the whole fight. Spamming them all the beginning will just make you waste scrap to potentially skip one phase and then die later.You also don't seem to be aware of wanderer since you talked about reaper for some reason, so I guess you didn't even play the game and is only here to stir shit.
>Want to fuck around with the witch crest but also want to do the cursed endingFucking annoying honestly
>>720269376with his penis unloading semen into her womb the whole way there (from pharloom)
>I can't go to the lat line of Journal from the first lineThis UI is so indie
>>720269239That 20% drop is absurd when you remember that this game was hailed as the second coming in the leadup to launch. I guarantee you that the discussion about the game being exclusively about how irritating it is is not what Team Cherry wants or envisioned.
>>720269245just equip the tool that drops spikes on the ground and then keep jumping on the walls, the fuckers are so big they take 9000 damage a second due to triggering every spike
>>720269249Yea, but from the very first trailer it was clear Silksong would focus more on platforming. Sure, i was not expecting the game to be THAT difficult, but in terms of how it mechanically functions, it's exactly how it was advertised years ago.
WHERE THE FUCK IS HALL OF GODSTHERE ARE SO MANY FUN BOSSES I WANT TO REFIGHT WITH DIFFERENT BUILDS
>>720269381Silksong definitely has more and more challenging platforming sections than hollow knight. Which I like. The lack of platforming was one of my biggest complaints about hollow knight.
>>720269245can never go wrong with tacks and cogflys
>>720269381There's a dedicated shitposter that's been trolling here for a while, he'll go to sleep eventually.
>>720269434>20% dropWhat drop?
>doing infestation quest after Act 3>supposed to go talk to 2 NPCs>they're deadUh oh. Bad end?
Really wasn't vibing with the game too much in act 1 but it really opened up in 2
>>720269472aka YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME tools
>>720269315nigger, what. that's just plain wrong, if anything, Silksong has more platforming than HK. HK barely had any besides path of pain and some.
>>720269453Probably in an update for spring/summer next year, along with a new area east of blasted sands
>>720269453How long did it take for hk dlcs to come out?
Silksong has a ton more platforming and levek gimmicks which makes its kino
>>720269506He's a shitposter. They always include the chink chimpout.
>>720269516I assume the item is somewhere laying around just like its the case with boomerang and skull mask
>>720269019I find found the game incredibly fun and rewarding to play at the base level of doing attacks and jumping. That was enough for me to enjoy it.You get excellent rewards at a steady pace too. The tools are distinct and useful. Upgrades have significant impact. Bosses and areas get more and more dramatic and bombastic as you progress.All of the complaints "it's not fun" I've seen ultimately come from "I can't beat this boss after 10 tries and this makes me feel bad". Sometimes it seems people think learning to play new game, which implies experiencing failure, is a bad thing. I fundamentally disagree with this and have no problem getting game overs and trying. I though everyone learnt this lesson back in Dark Souls 1.Other anons were correct from the start, git gud
I just almost reached act 3 at 47 hours, should I do the normal ending now before progressing? I can reload right?
>>720266847doing this really makes you realise than this boss is so boring for being the final one. all her attacks are so slooowstill died a couple of times though due to silk issue
>>720269450>>720269472Yeah I thought Tacks might be the way to go, I just need to stop panic spamming my tools during the earlier phases. Also where are Cogflies, I haven't found them yet?
So how do we think Team Cherry are going to nerf Bilewater in upcoming patches? An extra bench? Less adds at the boss? A nerf to the maggot poison?
>>720269516Yep. They mentioned in the upcoming patch details "- Fixed wish Infestation Operation often not being completable during the late game."
>>720269412I used key 1 on the door in deep docks and key 2 on the green guy's cage, if there's a 3rd key when the game is already over I couldn't care less. Saying "Nuh uh the tools are ONLY meant for this one comparatively limited use case because the game doesn't tolerate you actually trying to use them" is just reiterating what I said about Hornet's moveset being cucked because having fun abilities apparently is a bad thing. Sacrifice fun at the alter of autistic challenge running, the game. Aka how to pander to tranny speedrunners and challengerunners at the expense of the 99.9% of everyone else.
>>720269019Honestly only thing I would change is some of the health pools for some enemies. If you're going to increase the damage then I'm going to be more careful and prioritize dodging attacks thus focusing less on damaging the enemy. This leads to longer drawn out fights which feel more exhausting then could be. Inb4 use traps! Yes, traps can do a lot of damage but I like hitting bosses with my needle more then throwing projectiles at it.
>sands of karakThis is NOT the place to be using architect crest...
Based 4chan tools:>cogwheel>ricochet drill>downward drill>spike trap>pulse bola/spearReddit tools:>tacks>pompilloNeutral>boomerang>simple knives >bird trio daggers
>>720269598>You get excellent rewards at a steady pace too.stopped reading right herebot post
>>720269453How would the hall of gods even work given the shards system? Would you have a fixed budget per Pantheon or would you just get free refills after each fight and the system would basically not exist?
>>720268918The fucking vietcong frog bugs were a nightmare. Can't even imagine how much worse they are with Void aids
>>720269598>I thought everyone learnt this lesson back in Dark Souls 1I like the optimism anon but most of the people here were probably <10 years old when that came out now
>>720269634high halls and you need craftmetal to get them
>>720269360as someone who radianted all the nu-fights and didnt bother with the rest, they are incredibly well designedeventually they push you into the wall and then your skill really starts to shine, you have to know what to do in each scenario to not get hit compared to something like idk, karmelita i think she eventually just will run into you and swing
>>720269610Yes, I just beat the game today. Taking a ciuple
>>720269664Holy fucking shit. You're kidding. I'm softlocked until the patch?Jesus fucking Christ. Okay. Guess I'm done playing for now.
>>720269389they waited 7 years to make sure their sequel would mog all the HK copycats
>both do the same damageepic
>>720269716probably exactly like in HK : you get a bench every few bosses
>>720269695>ricochet drillWith good aim this thing fucks so hard it almost feels like cheating to use it, I skipped black laces phase 3 almost completely by just blasting her as fast as possible with them
>>720269716the memory fights in act 3 already give you free refills when you die.They just decided to make the system retarded for the entire rest of the game because lol.
>>720269695What the fuck is a pompilo?
>>720269245if you wall cling as far up as you can they can't hit youif you really want to you can kill them like that
>>720269639The ads aren't as egregious as their programming. kunai cunts retrating, stopping just at jump height so you run into them. the fish spam plus maggots if you don't have the charm. too many fishes for them to also have 2 bites. the whole thing stinks. the secret bench is fine, I imagine most people get mad about the runback and google it.
The drill boss in the sands is the definition of artificial difficulty forcing me to fight in a tiny ass room. How the FUCK?
>>720268513where even the fuck is he?
>>720269639They will adjust the spread and aim of needle throwing mobs. That's all you get
>>720269751I think game saves your previous major checkpoints, idk how far will this set you back but probably saves more time than waiting for the patch.
>>720269751From the main menu load game menu theres a button under the save that stores autosaves that you can revert to
>>720269773your right it is pretty unrealistic for some ant to do the same damage as lava
>>720269372you have to get captured by the jailor guys I'm pretty sure, theres a few ways for it to happen.
>>720269751You can revert the save to the point you started the quest or picked up the item in the start menu though you will lose progressOR you can just the cheat mod to add the quest item
>>720269773>same damage as the true final bossgreat sense of progression
I'm not enjoyed Act 3 at all.
>>720269839>>720269848Yeah, I just checked. It was hours ago and I have no idea what I'd lose/where I'd need to revisit. We're fucked, boys.Seven years btw.
>>720269857no reason at all for the small one to do 2 damage
>>720269830HOW are you struggling with that guy? Use an AOE silk skill or spam some tools when he summons ads and its one of the easiest mid bosses in the game
>>720269886don't 100% silkslog, cherish your time on Earth
>>720269716You would get a set amount of shards after completing each pantheon. Get good. Yes you have to beat all 40+ bosses with base needles and tools and bosses all spawn those fire spitter ads and silk sucking spiders, problem?!
>>720269453I remember someone made a mod for Nine Sols to refight bosses before the devs added the same feature in themselves and I wouldn't be surprised to see someone do it for Silksong especially since the mod community for this game is way bigger.
>>720269903he's full of lava that's pretty powerful stuff, molten rock
>long ass travel to refight Lost LaceJust why did they have to make the Abyss so fucking lame
>>720269793Pimpilo, the fire bomb you get from the blacksmith >>720269830The duo is easy, the singular fight is trickier. Use poison traps when he comes out to damage him even while he’s burrowing away
I'm at my limit bros, this game is not fun anymore
>>720269883Your supposed to feel stronger by the end w/ so many upgrades it's just the enemies can do more shit. Having the end bosses do 3-4 damage would make your health upgrades feel lackluster even if they are even more important. Going from 1 to 2 I thought was fine for HK but going to 3 seems a bit much though I'm sure the dlc bosses will do 3.
>>720269735ye I disagreeyou can easily put them in a pattern and even when they surround you because of a charge attack you can easily put them back in the same pattern just by waiting for one to jump over you or abuse dark descent if you're gay
>>720270036stop or come back lateri dont know why some people feel the need to play games when they arent having fun
After finishing the game I think the cog dancer boss is my overall favorite.
>>720270043>True final boss does triple damageAre you for real?
Holy shit, I finally beat Lost Lace. I haven't had that much adrenaline pumping since Vergil 3 on DMC3. I kept thinking that she would be done, that it was only a few more hits. Now I know I had been close so many times. Her final desperation phase is absolutely crazy. I just kept choking because I was getting aggressive too much. I can't believe that Silk sacrificed herself to save Lace. Finally a God that knows what the right thing to do is. I also fucking knew the Knight would show up. He won't let the Void go and kill his sister. So I guess now Hornet and Lace get to adventure the world? She didn't want to steward a Kingdom, being a Hunter seems like a better thing for her.
This is a pretty aggressive request...
>>720270070Video games are supposed to be fun you retard. People go into them expecting to have fun, with the expectation that they don't have to turn off the game in anger. If the game isn't fun, why bother? What's the point of making a game that isn't fun?
>>720270043>I'm sure the dlc bosses will do 3They will all insta kill you unconditionally, maybe that one avoid death charm can still work for shitters, TC will make radiant mandatory for DLC endings
>>720270119The enemies in your general area are full of rosaries.
>>720270070There's only so much time before these threads will be purged by jannies for being a general. I'm 40 hours in and still in Act 2, but I'm willing to brave spoilers at this point because I know I'm not beating this game before these threads eventually get silenced.
>>720270070Because for some of us, we want the game we spent money on (whether it's cheap or not) to provide some enjoyment. I know that's a weird concept for some people to grasp, but trust me, it's true: video games are usually played for fun.
>>720270150its still fun for me, different games are fun for different people if its not fun for you play something else retard
>>720270070We don’t want to get spoiled by somebody on YouTube/4chan. Just wish the update TC promised would come out so I can get money without grinding.l and get that 8th heart container.
>>720270173That's not what I'm talking about.>so empty your pockets
>>720270087Zote does a lot more in previous game.
Ok I'm stuck in Sands of Karak, the room to the right of Voltnest, I enter from the right side and get past the first two rock trees (the second one being that one that you have to wait on the first one's wall platform to spawn), and get to the third one after the little flying enemy. and the tree goes under a ceiling pillar, how do I go under the ceiling pillar without dying, I feel like it's meant to be; drop down, silk dash, double jump and then pogo on the durian but for the life of me I just get eaten by the sand worms after silk dashing. Is this how it's supposed to be done or is there another way?
>>720270214Around snails, get ready for hell.
>>720270203I payed the same $20 as you and I'm here to talk about how pissed I am that this product I bought that I wasted so much optimism on was designed from the ground up to be as unpleasant to experience as possible without being literally unbeatable. Don't like it? Stop and/or come back later, faggot. Imagine posting in threads when you aren't having fun.
>>720270157Yeah I'm that good at games so if they do that I'll probably just not attempt it but I wouldn't be against it as long as you can fight the bosses normally.
>>720269890They do say "All fixes will apply retroactively, so players who've hit a significant bug that prevents progress may want to switch over to public-beta to receive the fix." so you could try that. In steam it's right click->properties->betas
I have found it
>>720270119Bug Elder quite blatantly told you he doesn't like you bringing unwashed masses to his home.
>>720270353Sure, let me do that on my PS5.
>>720254393>LET US PART AS FRIENDSVERY based
where is the boomerang
>>720270487Ants.
>>720270487hunter's march
>>720270267brother your clawline?how the actual fuck did you get to that area without it.
>>720270363>6 masksRest in Peace
>>720270472PS5 doesn't have backup online saves? Don't you guys pay money for network features?
>>720266059Probably bunch of Bugs around Hallownest before the fall. Remember that for her formative years, she was essentially trying to "find herself", because everyone expected her to be something. When the first opportunity arose, she probably took it just to know what the companionship felt like. Then the years go by, they die, while she lives on. I think she probably stopped trying after the third and then the fall of Hallownest came and you kind of don't get a lot of time when there is a zombie apocalypse going on and you have to worry about waking up next to your mate to find that they have succumb to the infection and are trying to eat you.
What the fuck are the spider strings for
>>720270553I'm still in Act 1 lolWas I supposed to get here later? Not even close to my 7th mask
>>720266134>Hornet can't remember Herrah's faceDamn man, that got me. It really did.
>>720270363sometimes it's easier to embrace the worm and simply don't get hit than try and avoid water desu
>>720270243As an optional challenge. That's a running theme with Silksong: all the goofy optional challenges are no longer optional. You will beat Path of Pain (now with double damage spikes and frost damage over time) to see even the bad ending. You will slog through trial of the fool to see even the bad ending. Every boss is now an Overcharmed Ascended Godhome boss. It's very puzzling because I think the concept of mega autism challenges being optional is pretty settled in games design. It's the difference between a fun bonus that the players will love you for and an excessive filter that will send huge flak your way.
>>720270636Expect pain.
>>720270561It would be neat if Silksong included a function to rollback saves that didn't rely on major story checkpoints. Whose fucking decision was that? I could have just gone back fifteen minutes and been fine.
>>720270303>I payed the same $20 as youOh that's the problemIm having fun because I pirated it, so I dont have any 'obligation' to make sure I got my 20$ worth
>>720270550I didn't pay attention to the name, Clawline's the longer dash that consumes silk right?, that's what I mean by the silk dash.
>>720270534>>720270549I cleared that place out where the fuck
Sherma....
>>720270656>You will beat Path of Pain (now with double damage spikes and frost damage over time)Way to out yourself as never having done Path of Pain, the mountain is WAY easier
Is Broodmother even possible to kill without double jump? The microdecisions you have to commit to, especially in phase 2 when she gets her gruz mother slam, to weave through the spit and adds are unreal. I went straight here after unlocking Songhaven and this is legitimately the hardest content in the entire game.
>>720270747Look dead-ends.Look at the tiny ants on the floor.
>>720266059>I DO have to wonder who she was hooking up with, thoughHive Knight, Galien (when he was still alive) and at the time of the events of the first game: [Spoiler] Little Fool[/Spoiler]
>>720270656>You will beat Path of Pain (now with double damage spikes and frost damage over time) to see even the bad endingis double jump even required to complete the game? feels like it's optional
>>720270776>sings scared version of the song in whitewardsnow this is sovl right there
>>720270787I keep seeing people seethe about broodmother today and I dont even remember fighting her, can you post a pic of what boss that is?
>>720270730oh if that's what i think it is you can clawline the durians and you pogo them upon reaching
>>720270689I got this far. The bouncing bushes that spit needles at you got me. Glad I had a Silkeater before attempted. I'll come back later
>>720266771
>>720269716The shard system honestly shouldn't exist. Should've just had a set number of charges per bench
Entering act 3 soon, last thing I did was unlock witch crest and now I'm getting my ass kicked in the Shakra duel, she teleports too quickly to make use of these alternative heals and the moveset is familiar but also seems wonky
>>720270656Mountain is quite easy, ice dmg is there to spook you and punish indecisiveness. Platforming itself is very straightforward, there are harder sections in act2
>>720270881>>720270881>>720270881
So I died after collecting like 50+ rosary beads and then died again trying to get back to them (assuming this works like Dark Souls) am I just never getting those again or what?
>>720270905nigga what is that route
>>720270905Worst enemy in the entire game. RNG spawns shouldn't be a thing.
>>720270953No. Don't feel too bad about it though, you'll be fine
>>720269598>You get excellent rewards at a steady pace too.This is the part I disagree with. Act 1 was extremely stingy with upgrades I felt
>>720270905fuckin gottem
>>720270787it's one of the really annoying fights yea
>>720270636I did it close to the end of act 2 and it was still CBT
>>720270885jail boss, need to accept quest first from citadel village
>>720270636to get to the more annoying zones you need double jump so don't worry
>>720269834here
>>720267964>Were going to be DLC bosses for Hollow Knight>Decide to delay them for Hornet DLC>Hornet DLC becomes new game>Sharp and the Steel Soldiers get moved to more DLCGod dammit man. We saw them in the first trailer. It is obvious that they were going to have an Ocean level with the Coral stuff, but decided to move it to a Memory fight. I guess they were testing on how they could have a wandering boss, like how the NPCs can spawn. Honestly, Sharpe showing up and trying to kill you during Steel Soul mode for that added spice would also be kind of sick.
I went through my first playthrough with the beast crest and it gave me some very bad habits, I actually have to fight some bosses instead of going full unga bunga retard on them with other crests.
>>720270905Anyone here found the room where you can permanently stop these guys from spawning? It's in high halls.
So fucking mad I lost Pilby today. I talked to him so fucking much but he never had anything new to say then the damn pain train showed up and boned his bottom. What's the catalyst for him leaving? I back tracked a lot but at a certain point I unlocked three whole maps back to back and think that's where I lost out.
>>720269707>>720271019Fair enough, I'm starting to forget the pace of the beginning sections. I guess getting dash and float was enough for me, but having more easily available tools and charms early would have been nice. Or an easier to get crest.After walljump and needolin game seems to open up and you get bunch of places to visit and items to acquire. It was so long ago so it sort of feels like a part of early game to me now.
>>720271318that's cool, imma head out there rn, thnx bro
>>720268237It wasn't immediate. No, she was the first Weaver. The first devotee of Silk and was loyal for many years. Until she realized that everything Silk had told them and the real reason that they were in Pharloom and had destroyed the warring Kingdoms to supplant their own was so they could have an endless supply of worshipers. The first Sinner is the first sinner, because she left the religion on realizing its falsehoods. This is why Silk wanted to make a child purely out of Silk, so that they would remain Loyal to her no matter what.
I beat Seth but now I can't find him anywhere. What do?
>>720271540lower greymoorthen shellwoodthen flea caravan final destination
>>720268432I bet that he is alive yes. I wonder just what was Hornet's reaction to him after realizing that he wasn't feral. Was she happy to have her half brother back? Did he go on to become the new King of Hallownest? Or will he go wandering?
>>720269598A lot of the difficulty of Silksong comes because it fights you constantly and floats well established genre conventions on purpose to be annoying. There is difficulty, and then there is designing an incredibly boring, easy boss (because you're lazy and you scope creeped your game too hard) and then slapping on extra damage, HP, adds, randomness, and a long runback.The bad points of Silksong's "difficulty" (and I have beaten every boss i have come across, i have never been filtered, i have never thought a boss was particularly hard even if it took me many tries) come because the developer has bitten off more than they can chew and also gotten too used to huffing their own farts. It's an impressive game but it's also a stupid game. There is an explicit refusal to cooperate with the player's expectations. Not because it creates a particularly interesting or memorable experience, but just because the developers have an excuse for why they shouldn't have to share their toys.
>>720270747You're shit at scrubbing maps.
>>720270786Path of Pain isn't particularly hard, so who cares? I don't play platformers and I beat it without much ceremony.
Guys I hate that black woman's singing and every time I respawn from the Bell Beast I have to hear it.
>>720271259I really want to get this crest but I left that fight to go advance the plot and I had too much fun I never looked back
