>>720444150So I just beat the dancers and the third map marker for the quest disappeared. Can I still do that fight? it was to the right of Blasted Steppes I think
>>720444150Did anyone encounter a bug with groal where here gets stunned and stays stunned? That's how I killed him, he just stayed there flailing around until he died.
>>720444150I kind of suck and am slow at video games. I want to play this but also spend October with horror vidya. Can I finish this before October or should I wait until November?
The patch notes are out, and they are nerfing sister splinter and moorwing?
>>720444431how slow is slow? It's a pretty big game
>>720444431Depends on how you play, if you rush the game, you can finish in 10-15 hours blind, even if you're not good, but if you want to see everything, you can play 44 hours like me, and still be at 60-70% completion.
>>720444431I have 50 hours for 100%
>>720444487Not lazy paced but short intervals usually plus full time job time sink
>>720444317Yeah I killed him like that too, /v/ told me he was cancer so I couldn't care less.
>>720444305anyone? the marker was here I believe.
>>720445025See the old elevator in the top right? Go back there, there's a breakable wall down the shaft
>>720445114ah thanks
Anyone know what exactly they changed with regards to Moorwing and Splinter? Health? Damage? Mechanics?Also apparently they nerfed environmental damage too.
>>720445529good. cogs and steam doing 2 damage is fucking retarded.
>>720445529Environmental damage doing 2 hearts is stupid, it's not very relevant in normal play, but in Hollow Knight challenge bosses, people would intentionally take damage to spikes to iframe through actual attacks and avoid 2 hearts everytime.
>paid benches>punish good players, who finish area without dying, because most areas simply don't have enough rosaries>reward bad players who die several times while going through the area, because they have the chance to farm rosariesAmazing game design you got there, TC.
Silky
Why was Hornet such a massive bitch to the Knight? She's really kind to nearly all the bugs in Pharloom right from the start.
>>720445920Rosaries dropping from a specific group of enemies is not a good idea if you ask me, if you're not fighting the citadel faithful or whatever they are called, well no rosaries for you.
extended cbt sequences = good game design
>>720446670Probably thought you are one of your crazy brothers from the abyss
The only areas I haven't really plumbed out is whatever is past Conchfly 2 in Karak, and whatever is going on in Bilewater where I haven't found a map yet. Once I get these done with will I likely be able to start act 3?
>cogwork core>path of pain in the middle of act 2I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT
Just got the quest to go track down snails, are there any missables I should clean up before I start Act 3? So far I have:>both pale oil upgrades>found Shakra's Master which I assume means I've got the map all filled out>done all courier runs, or at least they stopped giving me new ones after liquid lacquerThe thing I'm mostly curious about now is the Diving Bell in Deep Docks but I'm guessing that *could* come into play later.
>>720446670Because you and your ilk were trying to free the source of the infection and she didn't believe you had the strength to stop it. She treats you better after you best her in combat.
>>720447194you still have putrified ducts to find
>>720446670Because she knew you were trying to unseal the Hollow Knight, but didn't believe you had any hope of being a better vessel (let alone any of the bullshit you pull off in other endings).
>>720447397Is there a point to doing the courier runs if I dont' care about the rosaries? I've farmed up buying just about everything I have access to.
>>720447269>>cogwork core>>path of pain in the middle of act 2lol, that's not even close to path of pain difficulty. there's a harder platforming section later on still, though it is optional
>>720444150Lace has so far been the first boss that I really liked fighting. A lot of them kinda suck, imo. They have way too much HP and you really have to play in a very restrained way to not die. But she attacks fast, but only does 1 tick of damage, so you can actually trade with her and stay tight in the fight the entire time. I'm early in the game, but so far she's really been the highlight regarding boss fights.
>>720446887>old knight status: summoned>all my bombs and traps status: saved upyep, it's gaming time
>>720447194You missing two zones, if you want help the entrance to bilewater is in sinner's road
>>720447397remember to duel shakra and gramurd
>>720447424Is that found via Bilewater or is there some other access from the Citadel?
>>720444431It took me around 50 hours to 100% and that was me being very slow and searching every nook and cranny
I'm only 5ish hours in, but I just returned to marrows for the sidequest (flintbugs), and killed the mob I didn't before to access hunters marsh. Is this some kind of endgame place or what? The gauntlet (and the way there) is absolutely brutal. I assume I should rather continue in greymoor (tried the scissor guy gauntlet once and left..) and return? Any tips on the scissor mob? I can't hit em
do you fight the knight in silksong?
>Enter Verdania>Playing the pinello shows a bunch of lights>Rune indicates I need to open three fountains>Find two, figure the lights must be to activate the last one>Beat the boss>Get kicked out>Can't go backSo what did the fountain puzzle do?
>>720447397bell is act 3
>>720447683another access, Memorium specifically
>>720446670Hornet is really uncomfortable around Vessels. They're her half-dead half-sibling void demons and she isn't even sure if they have emotions or if they have a will. She's had to kill some already.She softens a bit after the Knight proves his strength.
>>720447269You can go do mount fay for double jump, you would have to do it anyway
>>720447859Gives you some orbs to open the path to the boss, I guess you don't need all orbs.
>>720447768Hunter's March is just like Tomb of the Giants. It is specifically put there to fuck you up, the boss at the beginning is a big, "come back later" sign. Even if you power through him, it doesn't get easier from the back half.
>>720447859I think the lights open the doors in the village though I didnt really quite get it also
>>720447768Hunter's March is difficult, I'd say come back later. It's not a mandatory area.
>>720447683It's through the citadel, double jump required.
>>720447768You can ignore it for now, it doesn't become relevant until way, way later in the game.
>>720446670The knight is literally one of countless soulless, emotionless void vessels. Hornet probably met and killed many of them because they were too weak and was tired of it. If a vessel is to do its job, it needs to be strong enough, that is all there is to it. And since they are basically an object, being nice to them is pointless.
>>720447617just say that you want to facetank the bossesthe 2 masks damage exposes a lot of shitters
>>720446670She's not really that kind, just polite. She reiterates over and over that she'll only help out if there's something in it for her.
>>720447768>Any tips on the scissor mob?The ones from Greymoor? bait their attack and jump+down attack, then hit them in the back, repeat.
I just realized that when you press down you pogo in the direction hornet is facing when using hunter crest. This makes pogoing so much fucking easier it's insane. I was actually gonna kill myself trying to pogo while pressing diagonally early on.
How can i figure out what mask shard im missing. I cant check every corner again one by one
Banshees in The Mist are kicking my ass. I get double grabbed by them way too often. Normally I would deal with situations like this by just pogoing their lunges but they're so often encountered in tight spaces with platforms above you that prevent pogoing from working. I've seen that I've potentially gone the wrong way and could go west to a desert instead, but this is where I've ended up and I don't wanna give up. I just wish it were easier to hit these fucking things during their lunge.
>>720447859In the rooms leading up to the boss, there's a broken lore tablet. If you get all the lights, it fixes that tablet and explains what his whole deal is.
Anyone got a hint for getting into the sideways part here?I've tried every tool, silkbind move etc but nothing can activate the switch from a distance and the window is too tight to attack and jump in before the doors close.
>Get to Groal The Great>Does his big suck attack that I figure will just be some contact damage>He actually swallows you and has a digestion animationI used to not believe people saying this game was full of sexual shit, but now I see. Tricky Team Cherry making me interrupt my gaming session to masturbate...
>>720447805No, because they know he will dab on Hornet so hard, it wouldn't even be funny.
>>720448045>>720448573>>720448268>>720448060Thanks guys
>>720448791go around
>>720448791it's another entry point with it's own lever. Go to cogwork
>>720448791Can you share map location please?
>Enter trobbio rematch>TROOOOOBBIOOOOOOO>OH TROOOOOBBIOOOOOOOOFucking kino
>>720449042never mind, I figured out what this is, yes, just go around.
>>720447617SEX WITH LACEOHOHOHOHLACE PLAP PLAP CORRECTION
How are you guys checking completion %
>>720448405>The knight is literally one of countless soulless, emotionlessWrong. Stop taking the Pale King's wishful thinking as lore gospel. It's up for debate whether Vessels are soulless and emotionless, but the Knight definitely isn't. (Unless you just speedrun the game doing only what is strictly necessary to supplant the HK, in which case you're playing the Knight like it's hollow)
>>720448964Haven't been to Cogwork yet, then I'll leave it for later, thanks.
>>720449416With an item obtained in the abyss.
Just finished the game act 3 100%. Was fun, a few really frustrating design decisions that waste the players time, but overall really good.Only achievements left are the speedrunner ones and Steel Soul, which I doubt I will do.>>720445920I agree with you, but rosaries are very easy to farm once you are in act 2, not like that really justifies it. Get the Thief's Mark from Grindle, you first have to save him in Sinners road, then he appears one screen left from the blasted steppes station. Equip silkspeed anklets as well for more speed. Then go to first shrine, and that huge hallway up top that connects First Shrine to High hall, where those big enemies spawn(Grand Reed), kill the three of them before you get to cogwork, sprint back to bench at first shrine, repeat. You can farm 1000 rosaries in like 10 minutes. You shouldn't have to farm in this game, but it is what it is.
>>720449462Even the Knight isn't completely Hollow. A lot of stuff for the true ending requires him going out of his way to ignore his primary directive to do a bunch of other shit and help other people out.Which is a bit of a tragedy of the Hollow Knight project. It was doomed to fail from the start, even if the Pale King didn't treat the Hollow Knight like a son to give him just slightest amount of emotion to give Radiance something to work with, it's not unlikely he'd had developed some kind of feeling anyways.
are the last 2 spool fragments also act 3 exclusive?
>>720446670The journal bits in this game imply she regrets not being able to save the Knight
>>720447397Did you do the cursed ending?
>>720449462None of the vessels are truly hollow, at least not once they've left the abyss and started experiencing the world.
>>720450363>kill the three of them before you get to cogwork, sprint back to bench at first shrineWhy not continute until the return path from high halls? that makes it 5 enemies for about 275 rosaries a run (assuming you don't get him), and you can farm on the way to high halls, and on the way back to first shrine.
>junkie status is actually possible without architectNice. Took me a bit to find the two cocoons needed.This is NOT practical, but the option is there.
GARAMA
>>720450774To me the implication seems to be that the tens of thousands of discarded vessels all had some sort of will or emotion that could make them vulnerable to the moth, and the capitalized Hollow Knight was, at the time he was chosen, the only one to be truly hollow.
Is the gourmand quest act 3 exclusive? I've done pretty much everything else in act 2 and I can't find his quest.
>>720449462When the Knight faces a rematch against Nosk in Godhome, Nosk imitates Hornet. I think that completely buries the idea of the Knight being an empty vessel.
got a couple of questions>is the only needle oil in the citadel locked behind the meal quests? i though i saw a bottle locked in a room apart from that one but i'm not sure>should i go back to that weird locked up semi-weaver? last time it upgraded my hunter's crest but it's been a while. i recently killed the gay robots, for reference
>>720451285Does this effect get cleared when you sit on a bench? I assume it does?
Wait, Verdania wasn't that? Where the fuck am I going then? And what is the double heart for?
>>720451501Yes. And also when using bell beast.
>>720451405Gourmand as in the food fetching quest? No, it can be done in act 2, this is where you start it if you really can't find it
>>720447397The only thing missable before going to act 3 is 2 achievements and one enemy journal entry(optional fight against Shakra), aside from that, nothing else is missable. Also, Shakra's journal entry is not required to get the Hunters Mark achievement(completing 100% of the enemy journal).The two achievements you could miss is beating the act 2 final boss the normal way(not using the option that leads to act 3), and there's also a hidden achievement for beating the act 2 final boss when Cursed. You become cursed in the middle of the quest to gain the Witches Crest, if you complete the witches crest and remove the curse, you missed that achievement as well.In act 2 after you beat Lace the 2nd time(heading to the final boss), you have to backtrack and do the final quest to unlock act 3, its called Silk and Soul, you get it from the NPC at First shrine. So if that quest isn't available after beating lace the 2nd time, you are missing requirements to get to act 3.
>>720451506Verdenia's item can be used to replace of them, so if you're filtered by someone or just lazy, you can just go back to the shaman after the other two.
>>720451901*replace one of them
>>720451506Big spoilers.It's a fourth heart. If you collect all four of them and do the ritual, you will be left with the double heart. However, the double heart can be used in place of any of the other hearts if you only collect three. You can then go and collect the remaining heart. Whatever heart you're left with after the ritual is a memento that can be displayed in your home..
what missing ... help ... need giga charged vertical jump or what?
>>720452496double jump is likely
>install boss retry mod to learn bosses>once I know them I just respawn at bench, do the runback and kill themHeh. I beat the game :)
>>720452391>>720451901Ok cool but how do I get to the one that's still on my map then? I literally already hugged every wall from Verdania to the Weaver's nest.
>>720452496Go to the bottom of the shaft you're in, hit the orb, then jump all the way up.
>>720448639bro your memory?
>>720452496Start at the bottom, not sure why I see this one being asked so much
>>720452857Hunter's March
What do I need to do to finish up with Eva. Also what are the location for the Act 3 Mask Fragments (missing 1) and the 2 Spool halves?
>>720452857ant queen statue
>>720450909I found it was just faster to kill three of them before Cogwork and sprint back, because you need a bench to respawn them. If you continue past cogwork where the other two spawn, then you gota keep running way further left to the nearest bench all the way left of High Halls entrance, or I guess you could backtrace all the way back to first shrine after killing all 5, but from my testing it was faster to just kill the first three and backtrack. But yeah you can do a run from first shrine to high halls bench, then back to first shrine bench, whichever is faster for you.
>>720452861 >>720452928thx ... big help !!!
>>720452928Lotsa explorelets
>>720453096>because you need a bench to respawn themI did all of them then just quit to menu
>>720452979>>720453059We're doing overlapping map segments now?
I'm in Act 2 and I still feel like I hit like a wet noodle and that I'm made out of glassI was good at Hollow Knight (easily beating Pantheon of Hallownest and 112%ing Steel Soul), I can't imagine how hard this game must feel to people who aren't good at video games.
>>720452994>What do I need to do to finish up with EvaUse your memory lockets. If you, say, have all the crests and upgrade all of them to max slots save for one, you'd get everything from Eva.
>>720453198There's nothing else down there but the orb plant isn't there? Can't remember the room exactly but the second I saw it I knew it'd be the answer, maybe you can't wall jump back up from there so people thought it was just to return up
>>720451834Already finished the final boss the normal way, and already lifted the Witch curse (fuck that noise) so I guess I'm doing at least one more run other than a speed run and a steel soul run.
>>720453096Now that I'm thinking about it, I was doing this farming route before I did HIgh Halls, so the nearest bench was that one all the way to the left. But if you have high halls completed and have the bench there before the arena, then that would be really efficient. Going back and forth from those two benches, killing all 5, definitely faster than killing 3 and backtracking.
>>720453096I meant like this, not all the way to the entrance, of High Halls, the bench is just past the last guy.
>>720453352I didn't realize the game saves at all times, thought you had to rest at a bench to save any rosaries you collected, yeah thats even better then.
>>720453768Forgot image, this was my farming route.
>>720453483Have you been upgrading your weapon? Theres 3 upgrades you can get in act 2. Also, use wanderers crest, most dps by far, its the only acceptable crest.
>>720453489>720453489I dont have the witch and shaman crests yet. How do I go about getting them? The others I already did all the lockets
>>720453919Yeah same shit I did, with +3 Pin and Wanderer you could kill them with a dash attack before they got an attack off most of the time, was like 500+ rosaries in maybe 4-5 minutes if that
>>720453408No
>>720454274>Thief's mark>Barbed wired whatever it's called>Rosaries magnet>Bees>Wanderer/Reaper>3 nail upgradesthey take 3-4 hits with the bees, 5-6 without them, and you don't have to stop to farm the rosaries since they fly to you, you can be done with a run in less than a minute.
>>720448639there's one in a secret area of weavenest atla
>>720454242For Witch you need to find a key item in Bilewater, though it's easier to find it if you come from the Citadel. For Shaman, you need the super jump.
tips on beating the final boss? The uppercut always gets me.
>>720454242Shaman crest you get in act 3, to the right of the ruined chapel bench, just silk soar up.>>720453489For Eva's final unlock you need to use 15-20 memory lockets.
>>720448639Have you done the one in the center of Mount Fey? Not the one you get after getting the double jump, the one in the crystal cave
>>720454858I'm already in act 3 so i have the jump. where exactly is shaman?
seth was harder than nyleth
>>720455379and grass is green
can you get to the whisp zone in act 2? i've looked all over greymoor
What tool do use to get the shredded organs? I'm guessing it's one of the two saw thingies from the architect but I don't want to gamble a craftmetal on which one btw it feels good knowing there's a nintendo direct going on and I don't give a shit about watching it, because Silksong is actually out now
Think we'll get the first DLC next year?
>>720455551You get there from bilewater left of the bell beast station
>>720455685lmao
>>720455562Just use architect charge attack. You get 3 or 4 pieces each time I think.
AYAYAYAYAYEEEEE BOOOSHKAROOOOOOAYAYAYAYAYAYEEEEE
Guys, I have a question Can I keep playing after defeating mother silk? Like I know I get an ending, but can I say go for cursed ending and start act 3 all on the same save, and go for other endings or do I have to play the game again?
I am free
>have to wait for the elevater both ways to get to the unraveledAt least it took some practice and skill to optimize the runback to Last Judge and groal, this is just boring and stupid. Also fuck his jump input reading.
>>720447269It's way easier once you realize you don't have to pogo on the cogs, but instead in almost all of them, it gives you a wall to cling.
>>720455887you can keep playing after beating mother silk unless you do the cursed ending where your save file gets nuked after you beat her
I finally got the fucking sinners road bench bros
Is the area to the right of the vendor in far field act 3 or can you get there in 2?
>>720455735in the mist? i cleared that to get to exhaust organ
>>720455551The coral drill and the buzzsaw both definitely work for the shredded organs. I suspect the mining drill does too, but I've never tried it.
>>720455101Her uppercut is definitely the most annoying ability and barely has a tell. If you get too aggressive against her she will catch you with it a lot as well as her parry counter. I played more defensively against her, wait for good openings with certain moves get in some pokes, back off and wait for more openings. Her moves are actually really easy to dodge if you keep a small distance, most of them are easily avoided.
I wish there was an ingame way to see which tools i'm missing and where to get them. They improve the gameplay so much it's a shame to miss even a couple of them.
>>720455887you can do all endings on the same save
Is there anything missable in act 2?I assume beating the boss on top of the Citadel will start act 3.
>>720455350Ruined Chapel, go past the slugs.
>>720446887Now go do the Unravelled faggot
>>720455783nice thank you
Lost Lace is filtering me
>>720456106You can get there in act 2, there is a secret path that would eventually allow you to open that door.
>>720456125nevermind I thought you meant the mist
>>720455101>>720456371just punish everything with pogos, don't contest her at all on the ground, that's it, the 3rd phase is a cluster fuck but just focus on dodging everything and make use of your tools
Why did they hide one of the best bosses of the game behind a secret ceiling
>>720455783>>720456338the pogo works too, can charge it
>>720451285There should be a red tool that repairs your other red tool when used.
Lace is arousing me
>>720455551You can, but you need the cloak for double jump. The entrance is all the way at the top left of Greymoor, its very hard to see.
Hornet is such a bad ass, I feel like I should ack myself for my horrible gameplay. It makes her look like a fraud
>>720454125I just got a level 3 needle but the task for getting all the foods for a level 4 needle seems really tough... I'll probably have to use a guide for some of them
Miss me yet?
>>720456392Where? I'm only seeing the silk soar path.
>>720456957muchas gracias
>>720457109Are you counting the upgrade you got for free for saving Bellhart, or did you miss the easy pale oil?
>>720455101Play less aggressively, she's pretty easy if you just space her out and then punish her after her attacks, also the goop attack where she floats up is a free 3-4 hits
>>720457182she's a good investment really.
>>720457223Check the bell beast station room thoroughly
>>720457303I got the free upgrade and I found a pale oil in the area right after cogworks.Now I'm working on getting a second pale oil via the food quest
>>720457223Without spoiling everything, search around the far fields station.
>>720456957holy shit this game keeps blowing me away with how many hidden zones there are
>>720444150Do I buy all of Shakra's maps to start her quest? Talking to her in Bellhart just has her talking about her mapping supplies. I've talked to her everywhere I found her, including Bilewater.
>>720457109The first is easily found, there is one for sale for 500 rosaries, 2 require exploration, I just found both of them by accident, I wasn't even doing the quest at the time, and the last one is a delicate flower delivery mission with a time limit.
>>720457923You might need to buy her pins too? Not sure.
>>720451449anyone?
>>720457020This. I feel like my hands should be lopped off for jobbing so hard. I don’t deserve the privilege to play as Hornet.
>>720458071Pins aren't necessary, I got 2 pins after the quest and the duel.
>>720456106>>720456392>>720457679>>720457731You can't get there until Act 3. He's talking about the area where the Sprinter is and all of that. Its act 3 exclusive, the hidden spot you guys are talking about is just a shortcut to the lower area of Far Fields.
>wanderer>poison cogflies>faster heal>dice>just ram yourself at bosses and heal then ram some more>shit that took me hours on first playthrough now dies like a normal mob
>>720451449No, there are 2 oil in the citadel, one you just pick up, and the other locked after the mission,
How hard are the last boss/bosses on act 3 anons? I just finished beating the heart ones and that ant was a nightmare, I'm tired...
>>720458071I bought out her entire shop already. Does the wish trigger by talking to her or is it on a board?Also why do I already have a map for the Wisp Thicket? That normal?
Is the general census to use simple keys like this? Wormways/Moss Grotto > Deep Docks > I forget ??? > Big gay bug jail? I'm still in act 1
>>720451449That weaver responds to when you get silk hearts, which you can check in the menu somewhere.
>>720458513Memory lockets*
>>720458464Deep cock 1st. Everything else is whatever. High halls second, I guess, as it has a gun tool.
>>720457923Have you met her in the sand area connected to the blasted lands?
>>720444304NKG and like, beeg bugs like the husk defenders in tear city or the big clubby beetles in crossroads or the phat ass bees in the hive. Like, 1% of the HK bestiary deals 2 damage.SS is quite hard in that sense. I kind of WANT to get the 1 damage mod, but a bigger part of me is adamantly against cheating. Though if there was one that was just a rebalance to REDUCE the amount of 2 damage instances where they don't make sense... I might waver. Hope I finish the game before such a thing appears.>>720444585>you can finish in 10-15h blindWhat a fucking lie. Fuck off you nigger. A noob halloween nigger (thusly american) would take 25h easy to finish this.
>>720458414Wisp Ticket map is found, so that's normal. Also her wish trigger from the board in Bellhart, where I found it at least.
Okay someone help me out here.I know there's a lever that makes the High Halls fight easier. But how do you get Shakra or Garmond to help you? Any idea?
>>720458408The ant gave me the most trouble honestly, I did coral tower on my first attempt, although some anons in a previous thread were really struggling with. My order of difficulty would be Heart of the wild > Heart of Might > Heart of the woods.The final boss of act 3 is probably the hardest, even including any of the optional bosses.
>>720448405>Hornet probably met and killed many of them because they were too weak and was tired of it.There's literally a vessel corpse in her first arena. I'd say definitely killed many before our hero showed up.
>>720458340cheers, i'll explore more.act 1 i could explore pretty much everything, but i keep getting side tracked in the citadel>>720458513>silk heartswhat a weird mechanic, i got one like, 2 hours in and now i'm at 25+ and i haven't seen another one since>>720458701ah. what a weird trigger.guess i'll jolt it down to pay her a visit sometimes, i think i've upgraded most of the way in all of my crests, except beast because lmao
>>720458732Thanks. I didn't look up what the thing you get from deep docks was. Is it useful?
>>720458880>What a fucking lieIf he's talking about reaching credit roll then he's right, of course anyone who thinks that's the mark of completing a game is a moron.
>>720458854||Kharak||? Yes. I'll just post my full map to make it easier to see what I might be missing.
>>720459327And now Ill go hang myself for fucking up the spoiler tags
>>720458965I assume you need to finish Shakra's questline (talk to her in all areas she appears in/buy all her maps from her and grab and finish her quest from 3rd hub area) for her to appear and help you.
>>720458965I think Shakra helps you out if you beat her questline + bossfight, she was the one I had helping and that's what I had finished by the time I got there
>>720459327>discord spoilersLMAO THIS NIGGAyou should be good btw on map im not sure what else you could be missing
>>720444150what is the float override? can somebody show me a clip, its now gone with the new patch but i think i never used it.
where is the broken silkshot?
>>720458324Wanderer is legit "you did not beat the game" tier. I'm playing act 3 basic attack only, no tools, and I'm unga bungaing my way through the bosses 3rd or 4th try, with the exception of Unravelled and Crawfather, which were 1st try.>Karmelita, Seth, Pinstress, NylethOn a side note, Karmelita is a cool as fuck fight, definitely S tier yet I still don't see people praising her enough. Fuck her backdash spam though, probably muscle memory from whoring herself on her prime days.
>>720459594Holding down while pressing jump in the air would take you directly to floating instead of double jumping.
>>720456032Bullshit
does the mask maker npc even do anything? Didn't see anyone mentioning him in these threads.
>>720458965You have to complete Shakra's quest to find her master. Make sure to buy all of her maps, then her wish should show up in Bellhart, its called Trails End. Her quest will not show up until you get all her maps, including off path ones like Bilewater, Wormways, Mount Fay, Sands of Karak, etc.
>>720459292It has a whole new area, at least 3 'cool' things, depending on how you define 'cool'. 1 of them is definitely useful.
>>720451383S-sex?
Hollow knight: the movie when?
>>720459810He has a delivery quest that doesn't give anything unique, except the package for it has an entry in the compendium.
>>720459810Just some dialogue and a delivery later
Wanderer feels so right, it exposes how bad Hunter actually is.
>>720459810he can fix the broken gun
>>720459810You can hit his mask off with a charge attack and he gives some lore, think it was the same in the first game
>see all the Vietnam PTSD testimonies about the Crab King tower>beat the entire thing 2nd try, no shortcut used, all 4 gauntlets + bossThe only remotely tricky part is the 3rd gauntlet which you can't use the floor, but thankfully the enemies don't throw projectiles at you. All the gauntlet enemies are pretty reasonable, even the flying ones are pretty low on the cancer spectrum of flying enemies.
Do I only have to collect the memory lockets or do I also have to use them to unlock stuff at Eva?I kinda want to keep some in case I find a new crest, but if I can upgrades from Eva now I'd still use them.
>>720447194Karak has basically nothing of note past Conchfly 2, though there is a secret optional area just BEFORE Conchfly 2 you may have missed as well
>>720449462All the vessels are still weird void experiments and are part monstrous and have stunted growth in some sense, can't really express themselves and have some sort of prime directive. Hornet being cagey is really not weird. Even if our mc is a fully fledged person, it's hard to know for sure. The original Hollow Knight for sure had a personality and disappointed the Pale King through developing one, but this is more the King's black and white thinking, and speculation. Its likely Radiance can corrupt any vessel it inhabits.
>>720446078Based shibari hornet enjoyer.
Is there an item to get more Silk when attacking? Like in the first game, where there was an item to get more Soul. Would be weird if there isn't one.
>>720459676Yeah Wanderer is so broken its absurd, none of the other crests stand a chance, give it a long claw as well and its over. But I will only give "you did not beat the game" tier to people who use Pollip Pouch + CogFly combo
>>720460465I’ve locketed every available slot across the 4 starting crests and Eva still won’t give me upgrade 2, you’re not gonna be able to be picky with your locket usage unless you’re only missing like 1 crest.
>>720460465Use them. Had 3 on inventory, used them to fully unlock my Witch Crest, making it 6 fully unlocked crests (I'm missing Shaman) and Eva gave me her final upgrade, which she refused just a minute before.
longclaw + wanderer
>>720460310Hunter is fine if used properly (upgraded and with barbed bracelet) but wanderer just feels so good to get better at because you'll have nonstop DPS. No fear just skill
>>720460465You have to use them, it's based purely on spent memory lockets.
>>720460630There is.
>>720460339It's not him fixing that gun, you fix it at a secret bench in the mountain.
>>720460676>Pollip Pouch + CogFly combo>mfw using them with Wanderer
Silksong wouldve actually been a 10/10 game if there was any way to refight the bosses easilyHollow Knight had something like that before Godhome but it was kinda lame and half the new bosses were projectile spam
>>720459753It’s annoying that this is gone, there are segments where having faydown makes it much harder to navigate. Of course this could be resolved by making over automatically activate at the top of your jump if you continue holding jump
>>720460676>>720460761Longclaw is 20% range increase.
>>720460903
>>720460968Godhome also didn't happen for a while after HK released. I have no doubts we'll get some kind of boss refight content eventually.
Over/under on Beast crest?
>>720460903Its use is justified against Bilewaters boss Groal, because fuck him and that corpse run, even with the hidden bench. Bilewater is such aids I swear. Even after 100% completing the game, Groal was still the most frustrating part.
>>720460676I still prefer reaper
>>720460903You haven't started the game.
Help a nigga out, I'm missing one(1) tool and I can't for the life of me find it myself.
>>720460968>Hollow Knight had something like that before GodhomeDid it? You couldn't refight the dream bosses could you, that's the only thing that'd make sense
>>720460786There isn't.
>>720461146Competitor for strongest crest once you git gud with it. Horrible for exploration, though. The terrible pogo makes already hard platforming bits much harder, and you can get whittled down by little idiots landing chip damage.
>>720461268Electric thing from the top of the Sands area I think, can't remember what the icon looked like but it was purple which I don't see
>>720458975>The final boss of act 3 is probably the hardestI guess I will struggle a lot since I'm not that good...
>>720459327>mfw after visiting Sands of Karak for the first timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450Fucking nuke it.
>>720461418You're telling me I have to go back to Sands of Cancer? Fuck me...
>>720461268Voltvessels, in the Memorium
Are the any Act 3 exclusive spools fragments?
>>720461268>>720461418it's in act 3 memorium
>>720461179I enjoy Reaper+Longclaw, but the attacks are a little to slow for my personal taste though.
>>720461505>>720461528Oh thank god it's just Memorium. Thanks niggas.
>>720461268it's in memorium not sands
>>720461498Maybe not I thought it was from the boss, there was also something electric in the Memorium>>720461528What does the boss drop then, maybe it was a charm
>Go through hell in Sans of Karak>Only to get a ConchcutterWhat the fuck?This is retarded.
>>720461268>>720461418You're thinking of Volt Filament, the one hes missing is VoltVessel, northeast part of Memorium
>>720461673It was something for the Silk Skills yeah.
>>720461673The charm that makes your silk skills do more damage.
>>720461673Volt Filament, Charm that electrifies your silk skills
Honestly Sands of Karak was worse than Bilewater
>still no mod for no silk consumption on needle dash (and needle jump for that matter)>still no mod for teleport song from the start of the game
>>720461764>>720461786>>720461812Ah I should be more sure before I say something then, I at least hope the charm was actually purple coloured
>>720461653>>720461759>>720461528>>720461505Thanks niggas.
>>720461713Area is needed on act 3.
>>720461990yeah it's purple
>>720461042is that bad or good, it feels much better to me
>>720462186It's great for every crest, more range means less chance for contact damage.
Great game but I think I have dead/dying kingdom fatigue now. If they do a third game I want a kingdom at the height of its civilization.
>>720461528I'm in Act 1 and I got it there too.
>>720461923I feel like this game really didn't have to make it that silk soar, songs and especially claw line cost silk, its a stupid decision. Hornet always regenerates just enough silk to be able to use the abilities, but if you have no silk it can fuck up your platforming because you have to wait a couple of seconds for the silk to regenerate when using claw line multiple times in a row, really dumb design decision IMO.
>>720461042>>720462186Its that good. Would you equip a crest that increased your penis length by 20%? Thats how good it is.
>>720462186It's between longnail and mark of pride, it's ok.
>>720462571Wow a whole extra half inch? You bet
>Dark Lace P3>can't fucking see shitThe fight would be fine if you could actually see what's happening.
>>720462391>I'm in Act 1 and I got it there too.no, you're in act 2
all of that for a fucking mask shard
>>720444150Goddamnit I missed the cursed ending permanently by going to act 3 didn't I. Fuuuuuuuuck.
Beat it 100% today. Was pretty good, but I'm probably never gonna play it again, there's way too many "that part"s for me to consider playing it again
>>7204625715 more centimeters would be overkill.
>>720461713conchcutter is goated bro, that shit can hit a boss like 7+ times per 1 use
I "beat" the game in 20 hours. Am I retarded though, was the thingy that lets you see completion percentage in the final area or is that hidden away elsewhere.
If you don't do this gauntlet until act 3 every single enemy in it is void infected and it's the hardest fight I've seen in the game bar none:https://youtu.be/0ayOVGQ09O0?si=j5EqR9aGG3ATFgdW&t=852Fucking psychotic game design. Harder than every single boss I've fought by leaps and bounds. Only beat it by going Architect and spamming poison tools.
>>720462781I said fuck it and spammed tacks and cogwork flies. Fuck that shit if you wanna cancer it up with effects and projectiles then I will too
doing mt fay and its really reaffirming my belief from hk1 that team cherry simply have no idea how to make a fun platformer
>>720462571im rocking 7.5 inches, no need for a charm, although the moveset is pretty lackluster
>>720463005Mt. Fay is easy, anon.
>>720463005bro your super meatboy?
>>720453408nah it opens a path in the middle of the Green gay zone. Fucking hate the boss there too fuck the dream sequences fuck off!!
>>720462940If you put "beat" in quotation marks I'm gonna assume you only beat act 2 and are aware there's more, the thingy in question is in act 3.
>>720462876This game is honestly perfect for NG+ but TC seems to hate the idea with a passion.
>>720463005Fay is fun though. Nice and chill.Though would have been kino if there was more to the sliding slope portion. Like a special.boss or enemy in it.
>>720463085>downwards pogoyou didnt beat it
>>720461713>hellI actually liked that zone
>>720463005i really liked mt fay, it's much chiller (haha) than the other later-game platforming zones imo
>>720463095Yes thats right, thanks anon.
>>720462975I did exactly that and I don't particularly remember it being a problem. I feel like people who complain about enemy gauntlets are just not using their silk spells or tools because you can always instantly one shot one or two enemies every wave as soon as they spawn in and trivialize it
Is there anything with Seth? Just found him post fight>>720462853yes
>>720463108NG+ is a weird area in metroidvanias. Progressions is so tied to your abilities that having them all immediately would radically alter the structure of the game. Granted silksong only has like six abilities that matter so it might not change much here
>>720463108Seriously, it would be so much fun to play the game again with all of my tools from the start. There's so much shit you get late in the game that seems fun, but everything is too difficult to start trying to learn a new moveset or different playstyle.
>>720463295Find him and he'll eventually go to Fleatopia.Do it before the festival :)
>>720463295Where is he post fight actually?
>Boss is meant to be beat with one hand
>>720463085easy =/= fun>>720463157>>720463237the cooldown on the harpoon is driving me fucking insane. how many silk hearts should i have found by now? if im meant to have more than one maybe thats why im losing my mind
>>720463353I think that's a good reason to have it, isn't it?
>>720458880my first run was 17h to reach normal ending completely blind
That delivery wasn't so bad once you know the route.
>>720463353Grime and Blasphemous have great NG+
>>720463295Find him in a few other places and he'll get high scores at the flea circus. Beat his scores for a memento.
>>720463005Just you wait until you do the surface ascent in act 3. Hope you like doing grapple dashes into double jumps over and over, because that's what that whole thing is
any tips for flea juggling? I barely can muster 10 and they want me to get 31
>>720463353In this game there's only like one(1) skill that would actually break anything and that's the super jump. Everything else is basically fair game.
>>720463440weavelight fixes the cooldown and the area is all platforming
>>720462975Lmao that was definitely an oversight that they just didn't realize when they were going through the entire game voiding every enemy.>>720460676>Pollip Pouch + CogFly comboSometimes the game throws some bullshit at you and you gotta pull out the dual Zimmermans, it is what it is. I wasn't fucking doing those retarded delivery quests without it that's for sure. >>720463295It's good. I'm freed from the burden of trying to platinum the game now. This is a positive thing I'm fucking seething so hard rn
>>720463440You can have two by this point, but you should also be equipping the Weavelight tool for these sections. It has a hidden bonus of basically giving you an extra silk body on top of the faster regen.
How do I get in the lower left? I'm in act 3 about to fight the final boss and it's still closed.
What do you get for hitting the target 25 times in tge hunter march minigame?
>>720463551Don't jump to hit them, keep track of what one you have to hit next based on the order they came in and they slow down a bit when 4 of them come at once so just get to there and it becomes easier and the score goes up quicker
>>720463373He apparently goes through multiple places, I found him randomly in Greymoor on the way between the tavern and the craws place.
>>720463694apparently that's steel soul mode only
>>720463365>Do it before the festival :)way too late for that
>>720463551Jump up in the air and smack them as soon as you can, don't wait for them to fall. Equip Wanderer.
>>720463625>>720463693that name doesnt ring a bell; i dont think i have that
>>720463551Pick a crest with fast upward strikesThe fleas tap out when you hit them thrice
>>720463694It's some steal soul exclusive boss.
So how do I get to act 3? I just got what I presume is the bad ending.
>>720463694It only opens for a steel soul exclusive quest
>>720463467That's true for all of them, I don't think any delivery forces you through any problematic place.
>>720459616i think maybe it's in weaver lair east of Bilewater that you have to swim in maggot water to get to idk I forgot
what am I supposed to do in the mistI get that it's something about following the fireflies but they dont point to any door just hang around
>noob trap>can comfortably carry you through the entire gameHuh?
>>720463696220 bead breakable rosary
>>720463934play the violin, johnny
>>720463879Do all the sidequestsMove the fleas to their final location by collecting most of them
I give up for this one. I've done a full wrap around this empty space swinging at every wall and hugging every ceiling. What's the trick? How do I get this final flea?
>>720463551I used architect, never hit them upwards unless it's grishkin. Push them all to one side, don't split them.
i just found the 2nd sentinel and placed her heart, do i have to wait to get her wish? I want to do it before finishing act 2
>>720463816>>720463867>>720463891Well, nuts to that, then.
>>720463921Yeah that was it. didnt even know there was a weavenest there.Finally at 100%, time to go finish the game
>>720464102secret passage top right of that library place in the citadel
>>720464102Same place with the quest for the merchant from Songclave I think, like that rooftop with all the bird things
>>720463948Slow attack speed, and you waste so much time collecting the orbs that you could just be using to smack the boss and get silk that way. It's ironically horrible for generating silk despite that being its whole gimmick.
>>720463845Y'know I thought it was one of the earliest tools you get from regular progression but I remembered wrong.There's an optional fight in weavenest atla, left of where the bench is
>>720456957This seems so well hidden, are you actually supposed to find this place in act 2 or does act 3 send you there?
Is there really no other bench?Did i miss my opportunity by sitting on the trap bench before doing something?
>lace rematch Holy fuck one of the best video game bosses of all time. This game is something truly special https://vocaroo.com/1hpUWxEWQ84F
>>720464102>>720464226No sorry I'm getting confused that's where you already are, probably where the other guy said
>>720464102the path is under songclave somewhere forgot where but its down there
>>720464102Room below the Pslam guy, all the way right and up, there should a breakable
>>720448485It really does. In HK you could just trade blows with Quick Slash and Unbreakable Strength and win with ease against most bosses. The Godmaster equivalent for Silksong will have a sub-0.5% completion rate.
>>720464102I believe you go in from whisper halls.
wow you guys were not wrong about the double jump fucking up platforming
>>720463948I used it for a while but then I started using hunter again and realized I was gimping myself.
>>720464102Zoom out a bit and I'll show it to you. This one's bullshit
Now that I've beaten the game here's my list of bosses that were actually good. The rest ranged from mediocre to bad>Lace>Phantom>Widow>First Sinner>Second Sentinel>Clockwork Dancers>Trebbio>Pinstress>Seth>Karmelita
>>720464229the orbs linger quite a while, i just grab them while dodging. And it might be slow but the survivability is so good that it hardly matters if you prolong a fight
>>720464246You can see a piece of vertical wood sticking out so I marked it for later. You need the double jump to reach it.
>>720415912They should have allowed the player to warp out at least. They can restrict warping in. The bell stations could be selectable for warping. So the player can leave areas by warp, but still have to enter them on foot.>>720420063Weird question to ask, since it has nothing to do with my issues. But I I've been buying pins, and pinning everything. Bilewater currently has nothing of interest to pin. What would you have me pin?>>720430434>I think this is why they're so generous with bonfire placements in Elden Ring.Yeah, sounds about right to me.>>720435963You're telling me there's a closer bench than the one I'm already at?I guess I can try looking for it. But I already scanned the zone for alternative paths on my first couple of passes. Granted, my attention was split, just trying to survive. So I could have overlooked something. But still, I normally have a pretty good eye for spotting branches and hidden paths.>>720439027I don't know what that is. But I'm probably going to avoid it now, since you say it's broken. In fact, I'm going to avoid patches for this game until, I 100% it. Currently, steam wants to update the game, but I'm going to start in offline mode to get around that, and finish the game offline.
>>720463092Yeah, it's another boss that just zips around randomly so you take 90% of your hits from contact damage rather than its actual attacks.
>>720464246It's just meant to be a secret area, but it's reasonable to find. If you're looking closely, the entrance is visible and there's a few hints suggesting that there's something there (orange orbs in the area, room where you get the grenade tool has conspicuous stuff you don't see anywhere else, and you can hear something inside the bell in that one part of the Underworks).
>Silksong on Switch: 2.7 GB>Hollow Knight on Switch: 5.2 GB
>>720464529Pinstress sucked
>>720464326yea you missed a bench
>Savage beastfly #2Defend this
My one biggest gripe with this game is speed not carrying over to your jumps. I understand it's to accomade the design of the game but it feels awful losing so much speed when jumping, especially when you use tye anklets.
>>720464326There's one more
>>720463948I like it for non-boss stuff. But for bosses being able to hit faster makes a big difference.
>tfw delivered the lacquer first try
>>720464645i don't have to, it's easier than #1
>>720464587>They should have allowed the player to warp out at least. They can restrict warping in. The bell stations could be selectable for warping. So the player can leave areas by warp, but still have to enter them on foot.Does he know?
>>720451435The ending of Silksong buries the idea of that. The Knight shows up in the void to save Hornet and then leaves. If void was just a force of nature before, it's been corrupted to have emotions because of the Knight.
>>720464529>PinstressI'm surprised she's on there, probably the most disappointing fight in the game for me
>>720462797Lmfao my thoughts as well. I did this with the beast crest when I was still shit at the pogo, what a pain.
>>720464529my thoughts as well pretty much, although I didn't like Lace very much either, all the "guy with a sword" bosses are very samey with similar movesetsI also liked the flower seed boss and that's about it
>>720463964Do they close up shop after that or can you rob them blind?
What do I do here?
>>720464414Thank you, I never would have found this. I even went into the psalm guy's room to check but didn't think it'd be even lower and to the right from that. At least I don't feel like as much of an idiot as I did for the one in the Far Fields.
>>720464645Just like Beastfly 1, it's a tutorial boss to teach you the importance of managing adds and not letting things pile up. It's also clearly meant to be a boss that kicks your ass that you come back for later when you're stronger.
WHERE IS THE OPENING ON GROAL??I noticed that you can feed him pimpillos and possibly other tools which is probably massive damage, but it's REALLY hard to get close when he fucking hovers on the far side of the arena and moves fast.
>>720464991Climb
>>720464984He tells you he needs to set up a new game. If you're sufficiently progressed (no idea the cutoff point cause I did this late on, sorry) you can leave and come back and it becomes a one life, infinite game where your money is based on how many targets you hit.There are faster ways to make money at this point so it's mostly for fun. I've no idea if there's some reward for scoring high enough on the infinite.
>>720463085This shit was far easier than mt fay tho
holy fuck this is the most annoying boss in the game so far
>>720464673Sprint jumping is massive though
>>720463727>>720463843>>720463854>>720464128ty lads I did it, used wanderer and focused on keeping them on 1 side
>>720465225How? He does nothing.
>>720463295>>720463373You don't have to do it before the festival. Find him in GreyMoor, then Shellwood, he will appear at flea festival after. If you beat his high scores you get the Guardian's memento.
>>720465135jump on him when he emerges and pogo his ass 2 or 3 times
kinda surprised grandma is a pushover. Was expecting a hard last boss for act 2
>>720465275spikes that do 2 dmg as you try to track him down and then his arena is just spikes overload and sometimes his spikes block his hitbox. not hard, just incredibly annoying.
>>720463551remember the order they come in, you can redirect the direction of their fall, i cant tell you how but you should get a feel yourself as you play, and group them together
>>720465135Just hang out by the side whenever possible.When he comes out of the water run up and smack himWhen he's just finished the suck try and smack him
>>720465225Literally can't remember what he does other than throw out traps that you just hit
>>720465240You are not ready for round 2 of this. I think you need to beat 55.
>>720455562I used the double jump saw blade
>>720465135When he emergesAfter lobbing bombs if he's near youAfter the suck if you gain a sense of the timing and use the end of it to get you close enoughif you camp in the maggots you'll get tons of free moments to hit after each attack but it honestly felt like I was cheating and I suspect they'll patch the safespots out
>>720464016>Move the fleas to their final location by collecting most of themAw hell, I've got half of them but unless there's a map this shit will take aeons
>>720465135Don't fight him with the needle. His flight pattern and movements and two mask contact damage are just too much to deal with. He's definitely a boss meant to be beaten with tools. Save up as much silk as possible from the adds before, blow your silk skills, then just burst him down with tools. The pimpillo and conch cutter are both very effective against him.
>>720465378you're supposed to hit the spikes to clear them
>>720465378Why don't you remove the spikes before you are overwhelmed? Fight was incredibly simple for how far in the game it is.
>think I'm done everything in the game except the true final boss and last couple of memory lockets>find out about memento bossesWhat the fuck.
>you can extend silk storm by mashing the buttonWTF??? Why isn't this mentioned anywhere in the game? No other ability behaves this way
>>720465473There is a map. Look around the ducts
>>720464641>>720464676Oh well beat it my next try lol
>>720465573kino finish, nicely done
>>720465573clutch af, nice job anon
>>720465490>>720465535i did. i think im just tilted after a long vidya session and this boss didnt help whatsoever
>>720464326inside their cave, swim in maggot
good bosses (mechanically)>first sinner>khan>lace 2>pinstressgood bosses (visually)>last judge>4th chorus >cogwork dancers>karmelitabad bosses (mechanically)>ant nigga in act 3>nyleth>savage beastfly>groal>crawfatherbad bosses (visually)>silk>lace 3the rest are just not memorable enough
>>720465573What silk skill is that?
>>720464239ill check it out, thanks anon
Honestly this game isn't what I expected. I rolled credits last night. Only the shitty ending. I have zero desire to do the rest of the content. I deleted the game. Furthermore, forget about actually discussing the game anywhere. The toxic Hollow Knight fanbase makes Undertale fans look straight and sane. I also never thought I would say this because I thought Hollow Knight was a 7/10. Hollow Knight is by far the better designed game. It's not even a contest. Though I'll add that the movement is more enjoyable in Silksong. There's a lot of content here for people that like the game and that's nice. It feels like a fan game made with an unlimited budget more than a game that was built to improve on the old game.
>>720464529>no Last Judge>no Shakra>no Crust King>no NylethMoorwing and Splinter were fun early game bosses tooThe most disappointing bosses however were Unravelled and Voltwyrm
>>720463551Having to beat Seth's high scores made me realize some tricks to flea juggle. Basically, depending how you hit them, they float in a certain direction, the issue is upstrikes are too random and hard to control which direction the flea floats, so you end up in situations where 2 flea's are falling on opposite sides of the area at nearly the same time and it screws you over. Use regular side slashes, if you slash them with a right swing, they float right, this allows you to group them all up. Don't jump or upstrike unless desperate.Basically, say the first flee spawns to the left, run to the left(under it), then hit it right, then hit every other flea right, this will keep them all nice and grouped up for juggling. Rinse and repeat, I got a 78 high score with this method.
>>720464673But speed does carry over to your jumps. No speed is lost or gained. Speed is entirely consistent from walk to jump, or from sprint to jump.
>>720464705This is probably the best way to use it, it excels in most any platforming, arena stuff, or general world exploration, but when it comes to bosses without too tricky of a gimmick, a different faster crest is better.
>>720465573>bombed from the insideabsolute kinography
>>720465376Honestly she's easier than most of the required bosses to reach her. It's just weird.
>>720465789Rune Rage, you get it from The First Sinner.
>>720465560Thanks mate
>>720465225dude this shitter was so bad, he keeps throwing stuff all over the arena and none directed at you, you can keep slapping him over and over again for free. I think I only got hit twice when I was dozing off and he did the charge attack
>>720465376Hollow Knight was the exact same
>>720444150I played the first game for a few hours but couldn't get into it. Why is this such a big deal? I like souls for reference which people compare this game to but haven't really played any serious platformers except on phone. Why is it such a big deal and should I give it a try?
>>720465376Was pretty disappointed that her big final phase is just more of the same but with stage hazards
What was the point of dividing the game into acts when there are only 2?
>exclusive content in steel soul modeGrr
>>720465817Also I'm trans and I'm saying that so you know the emotional struggle I've been through in life and this game only made my struggle worse
The hard part about Mother Silk is how fucking hot she is.
>>720466081because there are 3
>>720465870No way, you slow down. Do a full jump while sprinting. You'll see what I mean.
>>720462405I suspect the Clawline is the reason the game starts you off with a Silk heart right at the beginning.
>>720465842I FUCKING MISSED SHAKRA FIGTHT AS WELL?????>Godhome when
>>720466019If you didn't LOVE the first game, then avoid Silksong. If you did LOVE the first game, then avoid Silksong.
>>720465995Heh, not really. Radiance was harder. I guess she's Hollow Knight tier but after HK there was Radiance to deal with
>verdaniai heard that this place will be locked once the boss is defeatedis it a hardlock to 100% journal?
>>720466081Because Kojimbo got fired and they had to rush the shit out of the game.
>>720465817What do you think is so toxic? I find people on here that actually like the game complaining about lots of stuff so it's obviously not above criticism even among the fans. I personally really disliked the crest balancing
>>720466214once you finish it, it will 100% fill the relevant journal entries automatically
>>720465842Last Judge is mediocreShakra was mediocreCrust King suckedNyleth sucked
>>720466102I hear you anon. Hopefully things get better for you. Video games are usually a nice escape. This time around it felt more like life was the escape from the video game.
zanzibart bros... :( wtf...
>>720465943I see, I think I have the keys necessary for the fight. Time to go find it
>>720466207Radiance was the bonus boss though, default ending bosses are equally weak, probably as a hint that they're not meant to be the end, though Silk is a little harder at least
>>720465779>pinstressvengefly tier boss
>>720463891I know how gay and weak this sounds, but I hope somebody mods the Steel Soul exclusive stuff to appear in the base game. I hate when devs lock content behind cock and ball torture difficulty modes, the reward for going through that dumb waste of time shit should be the experience itself plus whatever achievement you get as a dickhat. Every time I consider playing through Underrail on Dominating! just so I can see one of the two optional bossfights it has I don't even bother, because I know at the end of the day it won't be worth it.
>>720466019Lots of people go through this with HK. The big hype train and fervent fanbase kinda hurt the game a bit because it's such a slow burn at the start. So many people are so in love with it is because that slow burn builds up to some really cool stuff. If you come in expecting it to knock your socks off in hour one, though, you're gonna be disappointed.
>>720466145Most likely yeah, they should have instead just put the clawline on a consistent cooldown so it can't be spammed, silk usage is just a convoluted way of creating a cooldown for it that is harder for the player to gauge when platforming.
>>720460630If you want a tool for spamming silk skills, use weavelight. If you want something to stock a bunch of silk, use spool extender or reserve bind. Druid's eye helps for having heal ready for taking too much damage.
>>720444150Got the 1st ending today. Gonna go get the Wishes all completed, so I can get the 2nd one and start Act 3.
>>720466332I really liked Nyleth, but I feel it was because the laser tool made it enjoyable
>>720466332Last Judge is a better Failed Champion.Nyleth is fun when you just go completely ham.And Crust King's only issue was that he was too low HP.
Do I need to do all the deliveries to get to act 3? Not that they're hard other than the timed one, I just don't feel like it.(plus the dogshit rewards)
>>720465842>Unravelledhe is such a shit bosswhat a shame since the area is quite cool atmosphere wise
>>720462405Because clawline would be overpowered for bosses. You can still spam it but it makes it much harder to get silk for healing. Songs, sprinting and silk soar are retarded, yes.
>>720466292Wish I knew this before I spent fuckin 40 minutes farming all the little goobers in there.
>>720466529Just do the non-supplies ones
that sands of karak runback to the conefly boss is BRVTAL wtfeven with all movement abilities its aids
>>720466502Crust King's issue is that he's really basic and boring. He jumps around and summons pillars, and that's the entire fight
>>720466529you don't need to do them at all for act 3, I don't even think the one for the oil quest is needed but could be wrong
>>720466575just don't greed and it's not hardthis applies to almost every boss in the game
>>720465779I liked Silk.
>>720466529No courier mission is needed for act 3, only one courier mission is needed for upgrading your needle.
>I missed First Sinner in Act 2Will it still be there in Act 3?Will it have void abilities?
>>720466450The best part of this particular hype cycle though is just discovering shit with /v/So many>WHAT THE FUCK WHERE DID YOU FIND THAT>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT HAPPENED?>HUH ACT 3 IS REAL??????Was honestly kinoAnd every so often an anon will reach Bilewater and post in the thread in rage and everyone laughs
>>720444150GENERALS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON /V/>>>/vg/>>>/vg/>>>/vg/DO YOUR JOB MODS
>>720466660>I don't even think the one for the oil quest is needed but could be wrongIt's not. I did it around half way into 3
>>720459676The only good thing about Karmelita is the music. Her moveset essentially corners you into the middle of the opposite wall and there's nothing fun about that. Same reason nobody praises Nyleth. At least that one's easy to beat.
>>720466575If you open up all the shortcuts it's not too bad
>>720466803>corners youHow? Just parry bro.
>>720446887Just use ground spikes and 70% of enemies are fucked.
>>720466575hit the big cone on the roof before the boss and use the bench below it
>>720466745that's right, we need more slots for our nintendo threads, isn't that right fellow nintedrone?
There's an Act 3? Where's the double jump? I just got the Weaver Queen ending and I don't know what else to do, I've been everywhere I could.
>>720466575Have you done Bilewaters boss Groal yet? Even with the hidden bench found, the runback to him is the pure manifestation of concentrated AIDS. Its easily my most hated part of this game.
>>720466696>Missed this because I was so afraid of spoilers and was 1 day late to playingI should have just nutted up
>>720466274Honestly most of it is the git gud meme killing nearly any review or critique. I think it will take years before we see any serious full length critique of this game taken seriously.
>>720466926You gotta go to jail anon
>>720447269All of the cog jumps are optional, or piss easy if you have the reaper crest.
>>720466901yes and uma musume fellow silktroonMODS MODS MODS
>>720466803>Her moveset essentially corners you into the middle of the opposite wallthat's what good about the fight, it's all about fighting for the middle
>>720466745Uh oh tendie is having a melty after everyone started shitting on the last tendie show
>>720466143Yes way. I literally tested it out first before posting, just to be doubly sure.
>>720466926Mount Fay, west of The Slabs Bellway station. You need Clawline.
I'm guessing if I beat the big boss now the game is over? Is there no act 3 or is that unlocked elsewhere?Should I be aiming to explore as close to 100% of the map as possible in act 2?
>>720466926>wheres the double jumpgo to the slab and go to the left of the bellbeast station. you can unlock double jump the moment you get the needle movement skill
>>720465779Give an honourable mention to the worm at the start of act 3 at least, if only for the BELL BEAST WITH THE STEEL CHAIR moment.
>>720466901>>720467067>replying to automated spambotsishygddt
>>720466868Yeah I've seen the tool assisted video too.
>did bilewater after hearing so much about it>ends up being not so badi might be a god gamer bros
>>720466992>>720467101>>720467103Fuck it, I beat the game in Act 2, I lost all interest in it like after an orgasm. Fake endings just take me out completely.
>>720466952I would call this a stretch if it wasn't for the fact that they're the same name just flipped upside-down. It's definitely something, though.
>>720467253Now try Bilehaven.
Getting a bit more consistent with Lace 3.
>>720467171>silktranny calling anyone else bot
>>720467253You may just because that place is no joke. The runback alone is a great filter. What sort of build are you running?
Can someone redpill me on those delivery things you get from the 2 brothers? How does the countdown thing work? Is it time based or is it based on not getting hit?
migrate niggers:>>720467416>>720467416>>720467416
>>720467361i did>>720467403the runback isn't so bad, the bench is not far away. maybe i got lucky finding it. i'm using the reaper with very basic charms i got from the start
Simple as
>>720467551Most things are based on not getting hit, there's one delivery that also degrades with time.
>>720467551Only one delivery is on a timer, the one you need to do for weapon upgrade Pale oil, all the other ones have no timer and just require you not getting hit.
>>720467551the food for the pale oil quest is timed based as it goes bad, the others are just hit based
>>720467551Only the delivery for the pale oil wish has a timer + damage.The rest is only damage.
>>720466803>Her moveset essentially corners you into the middle of the opposite wallthat's what a boss should do, do you think they should just stand there and let you wail on them like a training dummy
>>720467597Bro how the fuck is that meme secret edge boss a B
>>720465779What's wrong with Silk visually, besides the blades being able to set up and attack from off screen?
>>720467624>>720467671>>720467687>>720467705Thanks>the hardest one is also time basedThink I'm going to do that one later with more upgrades.
>>720467551The rasher is the only one that's timed, the rest are just based on taking damage or sprinting in to walls. The Queen's Egg is just a way to farm silk eaters in a way that's limited, so they're technically an infinite consumable but difficult and time consuming to farm. The supplies are just a minigame to farm rosaries if you want to do something other than kill the same enemies over and over.
I just had credits roll. *SPOILERS*So grandmother silk created lace and phantom and seemingly others just for the sake of having children? Is she also hornet's grandmother? Would that make her herra's mother? I'm also not sure why she took over pharloom or rather turned pharloom into what it was when we got there. Did the weavers always control pharloom? Is this all explained in act 3? How the hell do I unlock act 3?
>>720467597Who's the dude in E with the harp like helmet, literally can't remember him so that's probably why he's there
>>720467812double jump helps a lot for that one
>>720467746mega uninspired boss
THIS GAME IS FUCKING SHIT!!!!THERE ARE NO BENCHES THERE ARE NO ROSARIES NO SHARDS EVERYTHING DEALS 3 DAMAGE AND TAKES 5 HITS TO KILL EVEN WITH 2 NAIL UPGRADES AND THEY FLY ALL THE TIME AND YOU GET GANKED WITH DARK SOULS 2 TIER ROOMS BULLSHIT NOT EVEN THE COLLISEUM ROOMS DROP ANY REWARDS ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????NO I DONT LIKE WASTING 5 MINUTES INTO A RUNBACK WITH TRAPS AND AHIT AND SWARMS OF ENEMIES AND THE POGO SUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.FUCK THIS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY GARBAGE
>>720467891The Unravelled, found in Whiteward
>>720445906So? You still get damage, why the fuck did they think this was an issue?
>>720465318>>720465387>>720465454>>720465475Thanks Anons I got him, his health pool was smaller than I expected. I combined your strategies: stick hard to the sides but go in for hits when he emerges. Use lots of tools and silk skills. I used Pimpillo + Volt Bolos.
A few questions:>Can you be locked out of completing the Hunter's Journal? Anons said you can miss the Shakra and Garmond duels, as well as certain enemies if you progress to Act 3 too quickly.>Does the Passing of the Age ending prevent you from getting the Act 3 ending?>Which is the best Silkshot?>Can merchants that sell Memory Lockets disappear in Act 3, if you hadn't already bought the items?
>>720467597Tormented Trobbio is S tier.
>>720467979Oh yeah, I think he deserves higher than that, him and the chef, the others on that tier are basically regular enemies with names
I keep finding new reasons to dislike act 3. I found Lugoli in act 3 and guess what, he's now a voidnigger with all the stat increases that entails.I wish I knew beforehand to do absolutely everything that I could possibly do before starting act 3 because holy fuck, every act 2 sidequest now comes with an extra topping of AIDS.
>>720468042>Can you be locked out of completing the Hunter's Journal?No>Does the Passing of the Age ending prevent you from getting the Act 3 ending?No>Which is the best Silkshot?Silk Storm > Cross Stitch > Pale Nails > Silkspear > Rune Rage>Can merchants that sell Memory Lockets disappear in Act 3, if you hadn't already bought the items?Can't be locked out of memory lockets.
>>720468042No.No.Railgun.Idk.
>>720466695No worries, I did it just fine in Act 3
>>720468042Apparently the thief will sell whatever is lost from other merchants, on act 3.
>>720468226Silkshot is a tool, not a weapon.
>>720468042You can get locked out of entries, but the number required for completion will change if you miss one of the permanently missable ones. In general, you're never locked out out completionism on anything.No.Only tried the one from the forge daughter. 30 ammo for a throwing knife with more damage seems pretty good, though.See above, never locked out of completion. Some things change, but there's alternative ways to get stuff.
>>720468290Oh I thought he meant like Silk skills.
>>720464629yfw devs actually improve their game optimization skills over the course of 7 years instead of just saying fuck you and your disk space we ain't compressin shit.
>>720464629>>720468441The fuck is that true
I NEED SAFE ROUTE TO DELIVER THIS FUCKING PIECE OF MEAT!FUCKING WASTE OF TIME SHIT!
>>720468375>the number required for completion will change if you miss one of the permanently missableWhat the fuck? Really?
>>72046758710 pages10 threads per page1 comft silk song thread99 other things for you to click onfuck off
WHY WHY EHY EHY EHY EHY DOES EVERYHING HAVE 2 DAMAGE? WHY THE FUCK DO FLYING ENEMIES DEAL 2 CONTACT DAMAGE? FUCKSRS DONT EVEN FLINCH WHEN YOU HIT THEM SO TOU END UP HITTING YHE HITBOX FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>720468042>Can you be locked out of completing the Hunter's Journal? Anons said you can miss the Shakra and Garmond duels, as well as certain enemies if you progress to Act 3 too quickly.You can miss their journal entries but they'll simply be removed from the requirement to 100% the journal and get the final reward for it.For instance, my journal says 190/233 completed right now, but I've seen others with x/234 or 235.
>>720468532Clean the route you wanna take from the Citadel to Bellhart of all enemies, don't rest at a bench (use the Spa if you're low HP) and it's all smooth sailing
I can't beat the widow.It's such a visual mess, what the fuckWhat annoys me the most is how every boss is an hp sponge
>>720468532Bellhart > Shellwood > Blasted Steps > Grand Gate > Choral Chambers and go through spa to restaurant.
>>7204686812nd phase just stand on the right and pogo after she rushes you
>>720466745Silksong is a cultural phenomenon.
Is there only 1 chair in bilewater before the arena? I think i'm going nuts
this guy was fun as fuck to fight
>there is no act 3 I knew you faggots were lying I hate you retards
>>720468532bellhart->shellwood->blasted steps->citadel gate->go through the spa to the dining roomClear enemies along the route and come back with double jump/clawgrip if it's proving too annoying as they make the climb massively faster
>>720469018you didnt finish the game yet anon
>>720468681You sweet summer child
>>720469018Be a good bug and help more people.
>>720469212From my experience difficulty increase in game is rarely linear, I'm sure I'm struggling more on widow that I will on some later bosses
>>720469014Looking forward to Godhome equivilant because too many of these late game bosses can just be facetanked
mt fey is hard enough to platform without the frost putting a fucking timer on it
>>720468189OK seriously, this is retarded. I need shit to upgrade my needle and now you change an act 2 bossfight to have more hitpoints simply because I didn't bother to do the quest before starting act 3.Why is act 3 so fucking tedious to play? So far I've seen only one good bossfight (Karmelita) and A LOT of annoying shit. I can't even be bothered to play anymore - I played the fuck out of acts 1 and 2 and loved it but act 3 feels like such a fucking slog that I can't play for more than an hour per day.
>got to the third floor of the coral tower>last(?) big fat fuck to kill>i dieFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKK
>>720466575When you're on the bridge, jump up and hit the stalactite on the ceiling for a shortcut.It's still AIDS
>>720468681If you're struggling with widow you're going to get absolutely raped hard later on. Widow is incredibly telegraphed. I'm not joking you probably won't ever finish the game widow is baby tier compared to a lot of shit later on
whats in memorium?
>>720469539Mt Fey just like any platforming in the game is trivial and that's coming from someone who's been utterly filtered by any non-main game in content in Celeste.
>>720466575Here you go https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/104?tab=description
>>720469567>good bossfight (Karmelita)Stopped reading there
There something that doesn't feel right. Some kind of input delay? Hitboxes being off? I can't put my finger on it but there's something happening that didn't in HK and it's frustrating. Any perspectives are appreciated.
>>720469018
>>720468981There's a hidden bench, its better than the 1st bench, but still an atrocious run back, thats why Bilewater is pure AIDS concentrated.
>>720469784thanks but i completed it the try after i made that posti skipped the first section by using silksoardidnt know there was a fuckin bench closer lmao
NOOOOOO mad scientist nigga... you were kinda cool...
>>720469974He looks healthy to me that's just the dead assistant.
>>720469867TeamCherry is very spiteful, so when using that hidden bench, you HAVE to swim in the maggot aids, so during the run back you will have to hit enemies to clear yourself of maggot aids during the run back.
>>720468981bilewater boss is perfectly acceptable to cheese because of having the worst mechanic thrown at you all at once>bench is hidden behind walls>requires perfect timing to not get maggoted when leaving the bench>runback is long and full of obnoxious enemies that can easily chip you>must fight a gauntlet first>on floating platforms above aids water
>>720469974How much fucking game is in this game dude...
Hate this Druaga/wiki shit. The only way to get to the meat of the game in Act 3 is to autistically read posts and articles that tell you what to do.
>>720469762a memorial
do any of you actually like the parry? it seems kinda shitty
>>720470118>you HAVE to swim in the maggot aidsSilk issue.
>never farmed anything>middle act 2>I have no shards to use tools at allBros...I think...I need to farm. I literally never had more than 300 shards for quest. Is this normal? Despite 700 bag limit the average amount of shards is 30-60 during normal playthrough. I don't even use tools anymore.
I'm seriously considering dropping this garbage game. There is a point where a game stops being challenging and it just enters bullshit territory.Bilewater boss is just bullshit at this point. Its not fun. This is not fun like hollow knight.
>>720469812What's wrong with her? It's one of the more enjoyable fights besides the pointless gauntlet at the beginning.
>>720468681>What annoys me the most is how every boss is an hp spongeThe blacksmith is in bellhart and makes the rest of the bosses much easier.
>>720470164it just doesnt end... everytime i think im done and about to end act 3 a new thing pops up
GIT
>>720470179>good ending requires you to complete all npcs questsWOOOOWWWWW HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN??
>>720470126I'm spamming venom tools and that fucker doesn't die. Seriously why are people defending this shit? This is not challenging this is just let's frustrate the player.
>>720470258go and gear up somewhere elsei guarantee you that youd be frustrated in the same way if you tried to fight failed champion with almost no upgrades and 5 masks
>>720470207Yeah it's good, better to parry an attack for less silk rather than try to avoid it and get hit anyways and have to spend a lot to heal it
>>720470126What were they thinking?
>>720470118>you HAVE to swimBro use your fucking harpoon dash
>>720470214I guess you could clawline it, but I was frustrated at that point I just kept getting aids everywhere during the runback.>>720470258>>720470126Cheesing that boss is perfectly justifiable. If you drop into the maggot aids and hug one of the platforms he literally can't hit you 95% of the time and you can just cheese him with jump pokes.
>>720470126Just tank the maggots on the runback, you'll get enough silk to clear them from your cocoon and you'll generate enough during the gauntlet to heal and be at full for the actual boss fight
>>720470367>Druagadont spam them, that wastes. wait for the poison to wear off and then use anotheruse reaper or architect if you have it so you have more than 1 slot for toolsuse a cogfly and wait for it to go before using anotherthen when youre out, start using threefold pin - attempting to hit all 3 on his massif youre in the bottom right corner nothing will hit you except if he occasionally emerges from there
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