This released earlier today. Anyone played it/planning on playing it? It looks like a neat little horror game, I might buy this, or maybe sulfer on steam.
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Randomization ruined it.
>Dude, let me in. I'm a fairy.
I dont get it. If everything is randomized now and you cant discern who and who is not a human by their dialouge what is the fucking point of interacting with anybody then
>>720789991>TV tells you that clean teeth are an indicator of being a mimic >Answer the door for the next person, they smile a horrid crack whore smile so I assume it's safe>Several days later, spend energy checking them.>Pure white teethWhat the actual fuck. Why give me clues if they're not going to fucking help me decide who to let in?
>>720789991unironically the best version was the closed beta test they handed out to youtubers and streamers to generate hypethe demo and full version is just full of ass that detracts from the wholeless was morenow its just a tryhard messoOoOoOoOo the player thinks they might be a visitor (but can't be one until NG+ where it's random and they're secretly the one killing people at night) OoOoOoOoso fucking deep
>>720791274>>720791159sucks that the beta was better. its such a cool concept but idk if ill get it if its tedious and arbitrary.
>>720790980I couldn't definitively pin anyone as a visitor by dialogue alone outside one bitch with awful makeup who defied the lockdown via cab somehow, turned her away but then she offered me cat food. I couldn't just say no to that. Someone else killed her within a few days.That and the posterboy in OP
>>720789991Where's the horror part?
>>720790980This would somewhat be fine if you were given a chance to actually interrogate them properly. But as soon as you let in a visitor there is high chance they immediately kill someone before you can run your tests, meaning you need to make the correct call based off of the same dialogue that is played for both human and visitor. The best strat is to basically roll with few guaranteed humans each run, meanings its actively discourages you from interacting with majority of the characters
Watching mai waifu play it
I don't know what possessed the dev of this game to randomize everything. It ruined the game.
>>720793373do vtubers have pixel art rigging now? that's cool, but I bet it'd be expensive as fuck
>>720790615Randomization should have been a separate mode, unlockable by beating the game.
>>720793485Man I want to know where I can find pixel artists to commission for streaming peripherals to begin with
>>720789991the mouse cursor suddenly disappeared which forced me to restart the game and lose progress so I uninstalled and refundedanother fotweek indiehorrorslop
>>720789991how long is this game? Does anything eventful happen? I palyed the demo and it's just some fugly people showing up at your doorstep day after day and you deciding whether to let them freeload or not
>look through peephole>See this>Don't open doorThat's basically the game right?
Another Papers Please clone
the demo did nothing for me, shame because its a cool concept
>>720796890even the h-game version was better than this
So, the game doesn't really let you explore the lore fully and all the endings explore the same concept. shame!really liked that each character has a way to make the test useless and you have to make sense to understand why it's pretty cool. However, it's completely thrown away when you invite someone in and he or someone else from the same night you recruited is the visitor and all the possible character exploration is gone.Cool to watch, kinda lame to play.
>>720789991What do you mean it released earlier today? I've seen people playing this for like a year.
>>720798070Do you not understand what a demo is?
>>720795087Nope, some people look like monsters but aren't. You gotta lick their armpits or suck on their toes to make sure. No, it's not a fetish game.
>>720789991It's too short, there's not a lot to do, and the dev expects you to care about grinding out every ending otherwise it's a 20 minute game
>>720789991>LE UNCANNY FACES LMAO!!
>>720789991potentially cool game ruined by braindead decisions
Why the fuck would he add randomization to every character? I could see a few wild cards but does this faggot retard expect the average player to do more runs than there are endings
I watched Caseoh play it, and will watch him play it again tomorrow, then watch it all over again once ManlyBadassHero posts a video, I watched his entire Dont Look Outside series. I do this for all games whos gameplay looks too simple, and/or too much of a chore for me to enjoy but am intrigued by da story
>>720799328>Caseoh>ManlyBadassHeroYou are an underaged normie faggot retard
>>720790615>>720790980>they had a fun concept and shat all over it for the actual releaseWhy does this ALWAYS FUCKING HAPPEN
>>720789991No, I'm not playing "made for streamers" trash.It also looks obnoxious as fuck. So double No.
>>720790615spbp
>>720790615>>720790980Everything is randomized now? The beta made me vaguely interested but if that's the case I won't bother anymore.
>oh this guy has white teeth despite being a hippie>NOPE HES HUMAN LOL!!!>oh this crack fiend has yellow teeth and clear eyes>NOPE THEY'RE A SKINWALGER!!!! LOL!!!it's completely random if someones evil or not now, the signs don't matter in the slightest.
>>720790980>>720800914>>720790615>>720801472>>720794098As someone that only saw the demo at a cursory glance I'm confused on whether it's just a case of /v/ blowing shit out of proportion. Isn't this just horror Paper's Please, so wouldn't a randomisation system be pretty easy to integrate (i.e. set characteristics + dialogue pairings)? Like I could easily imagine a randomisation system for Paper's Please but based on this thread, it'd be like if someone gave a passport with no issues at all and then you got fucked anyways.
>>720801768It is, as always, /v/ blowing literally everything out of proportion to have an excuse to never discuss vidya. Anyway, I'm going back to my porn threads whilst you people can keep whining how there are no games to discuss whilst you all drown in a deluge of literal rancid shitposting amidst countless games actually worth a damn. Later.
>>720801768Every character says the same exact thing at the door regardless of if they're a skinwalker or not so there's quite literally zero way of knowing before letting them in at night.All deaths happen when you sleep and end the night time phase, but you can't check if they're skinwalkers and kill them until the daytime.Surely you understand how this is a issue right?
>>720801768Dialogue in the beta of Nigger T. Rapist>Grrr I'm a monster... I'm a big bad monster baddie!!>It turns out he's a monsterDialogue in the release of Nigger T. Rapist>Grrr I'm a monster... I'm a big bad monster baddie!!>It turns out he's goodThe randomization seems like a last second switch the dev made, and it nullifies any interest you have in the characters and lore
>>720789991let me guess: it has a shit plot-twist where you are a visitor too?
>>720802140no but all of the endings are lazy slideshow endings with 2-3 lines and a majority of them have you dying anyways without a meaningful conclusion
>>720789991Too much reading slop. Pass
>>720789991Ew, it's just russian nihilism, I got scammed.
>>720801768First of all, it's nothing like Papers, Please. I don't know why retards keep parroting this.Secondly, every encounter plays out the same whether it's a human or a monster. It's not like every character has dozens of dialogues with half of them being for their human encounters and half of them being for their monster encounters or different signs. It's all the same but now everyone can be either a human or a monster.Randomization quite literally destroyed the entire purpose of the game.
>>720802316back to the trench, hohol
>>720802428It's like Paper's Please if there was a coinflip on whether or not someone is evil or not that you let in and you can only check their paperwork after they're already let in and you get fined.
>>720790980>everything is randomisedDon't you people love ROGUELIKES though?!
>>720789991sorry chud, silksong is the only indie game that matters
>>720801768People are just mad they can't use a guide to know for sure who's human and who's not.
>>720804131It makes for shitty gameplay if you can't figure it out until people get killed, no?
Why the fuck would he randomize shit. How annoying
>>720799414boomer ahh comment
>>720804337Its also randomized upon reloading a save... Had it happen to me wheel chair guy was a visitor then I reloaded the save and they we're human.
>FEMA rng steals neighbor's daughter immediately>?random? nightmare event with torn doors kills everyone in the house twice maybe listening to the fortune teller about not checking people on certain days was important, I may have fucked up that route after getting cat>this kills the Death cultists as well, pissing off their leader when he returns for them>Hunter cuts him off from burning me alive and he returns after killing the FEMA rejects at the ruins of the neighbors house. After seeing my perfect pearlies I didn't know I had after I selected them from a list of what part to show him, we get into a gunfight and I become nogunz shotgun batman after killing himThat's one ending down at least and I got a cat. I'm not a fan of how frequently I had multi-day dialogue guests turn out to be Visitors. I know this is now meant for multiple runs, but shit nigga I have to throw the game and eat deaths every night unless I use cat food just to see a bit of dialogue from half the guests. Guest reactivity also seems ass with the ugly sisters not reacting to her counterpart being murdered and bagged by a Visitor>>720793123>But as soon as you let in a visitor there is high chance they immediately kill This is also a frequent pain in the ass>>720801768It makes the initial doorway interview and ocular patdown completely useless for the purpose of filtering out disgusting dirty-nailed diggers which leads to>it'd be like if someone gave a passport with no issues at all and then you got fucked anywaysand an immediate human death in your house before you have a chance to check them in that period between the night of letting them in and the following morning where you can run tests on the new arrivals
>>720795087Actually, the guy that looks like that is probably safe and will protect you from the pale man
why does he look like a malnourished Tracer Tong?
Isn't random fine along they change body parts etc?The fun parts are the checks.
since this game ended up ruined, are there any other horror indie gemmies that have came out recently?
The worst part of the randomization is that it randomizes when you load a save. Guests that weren't visitors before the save become visitors, all the phone numbers change, etc. It's completely fucked, and the fact it released with this bug kind of proves that making it all random really was a last minute call
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>>720805503No, because now the entire door sequence and your decision to let them in or send them away are both completely pointless
>>720806692There's a porn game called The Imperial Gatekeeper which plays as an extremely simplified version of Papers, Please where you can molest/coerce/rape the women that you inspect.Great concept but it's low effort garbage like 99% of porn games, sadly.
>>720807328Related games led me to this.What a clever title.
I got the same ending twice. What am I doing wrong? I'm playing fine until a crazy guy with a gun comes and shoots me.
>>720801768Something being easy to implement doesn't mean it was implemented you absolute retard.
>>720801768You can not be this retarded
>>720807845Check yourself. If you don't smoke, your teeth will be white, so don't show him your teeth. If you drink coffee, your eyes will be red, so don't show him your eyes. If you have clear eyes and show him your eyes, and click too fast, he'll shoot you also (idk if this is a bug)
>>720808014I showed him my hairy armpits and my normal teeth and he shoot me, It must be that I clicked too fast
>>720808108Finally the perfect anti-speedrunner game.
>>720807825>ai slop
>>720789991Visually interesting game. Shit gameplay and ''story''There is just nothing there.>wow the tv said people with green eyes are not human>wow I checked this guy and his eyes are greenriveting gameplayThis is one of those games that could only work with some LLM implementation where you don't know what to look for and the game never reveals what the rules are and how to tell someone isn't human.
>>720793373Which chuber?
>>720791159Seems people can later on become one which is fucked
>>720789991this game terrifies bros, that fucker judge holden makes me afraid of being alone at night
>>720809850>Seems people can later on become one which is fuckedWhat the fuckHow do normal people become visitors lmao is it like a vampire thing? That wasn't in the beta
>Story is a nothingburger>FEMA kidnaps niggas so you never learn how little dialogue they actually have>Endings are all nihilist demotivational slopyep it's trash
I don't get itThe world is ending and the heat is killing everyone anyways so who the fuck cares if they're dying by visitors or notThey're doomed either way
>Before visitors would only kill people in their room>Now they just kill whoever in the houseebin
>>720789991They based that guy's face on judge holden?
>>720811527Whether people are visitors are not is random now, that's why you sometimes get the disconnect between character art and examination art. In the Beta is was set so someone could give the Quintessential British Smile at the door to let the player know they're good. Now that it's random that same character can just have a completely different face during examinations. The randomization was so lazy and slapdash that reloading a save can re-randomize people you've already checked into becoming visitors.
>>720811863pretty much so
I wasn't expecting any "resolution" as to where the visitors and shit come from or what FEMA is doing but the fact that the primary 'antagonist' visitor just decides to wander off eventually without any sort of confrontation is just pure slop
>>720789991I've found the idea interesting, but what's stopping me from getting it is that it's one of these games where the focus seems more put on the fact that you got a scary fucker after you and you'll barely get to learn anything about the monster itself, the latter is what I prefer when I see monsters in my game.
>>720812143Hes strictly meant to ensure you arent alone at any point, given the fact he will rape your throat if you lie about it
>Bald alien guy acts like we've met before>My first time talking to himuhhhh?
>>720813943We are friends bro, let me in
>knocks on your door
>>720799414Manly is always a comfy watch though.
>>720817131Is that a fucking elf?
>$15 for a 1 hour game
>>720813730 Yeah that makes more sense if you look at him less like a "villain" and more like a mechanic-the game punishes you for solitude the same way other games might punish for running out of ammo or stamina. He's like the loneliness watchdog. Still, they could've done more with him beyond just being the spooky bald failsafe, especially with how central he ends up feeling by the end. Just feels like wasted potential.
>>720817131Visitors can take any shape right? Why don't they take the form of hot girls with big tits? I'm sure in this hell of a world, people wouldn't even care about being killed if they could have sex with a hot sexy girl just before their death rather than be burnt to the crisp by the sun
>>720817131KNIFEEARS NOT WELCOME
I thought the entire appeal on the demo was that each knock on the door is a crafted NPC with their own unique backstories and possible skinwalker symptoms, this is extremely disappointing.
>>720818506same
>>720806342Look Outside is the one that leaps to mind for me.
>>720818506The appeal was the art style and the concept. People with a functional brain saw the problems with the game>muh unique NPCsMeans the game is solved. Every encounter is solved. Means you approach every encounter as ''this playthrough I am letting this guy in, next time I won't let him in.'' Kills all replay value, and I don't mean replaying the game over and over, just getting the game over and starting over you know exactly who is an alien.Obviously they needed to make it random somewhat, but now you make them random and none of the dialogue matters and the game is an incoherent mess.The only format this would have worked is as a visual novel with a fixed story and maybe a few choices.
>>720819049>go in expecting indie horror>after the first few minutes the game turns into a tumblr Undertale-like about zany wholesome chunguses>the visitor is cool in concept but in execution will go ''lol I'll turn people in this level into ice enemies and they say ice puns lolol''
if the main character has a gun, why doesn't he just shoot the judge holden copy guy?
>>720819847they establish early on (Before he visits) that that visitor is capable of killing entire squads of trained soldiers by himself
>>720819761literally where do you get any of that
>>720789991It was boring and short.
>>720820260if that's the case why exactly would he be afraid of you if there's 1 random dude or even some mindbroken woman or even kid in your house?
>>720820354From the game
How do you even figure out if someone is an alium? I checked the eyes and teeth and shit and they all looked normal, but in the end i still lost because not all survivors were normal.
>>720820496this. i'd rather just pirate it.Cool concept, but god this plays like some fucking 2010 flash game on newgrounds and they are selling this for $20 on steam.
>>720819049>>720819761>creepy guy at the door>let them in because the game is piss easy once you get a full party.
>>720820565you missed a sign bwo...
>>720820565It's all random so good luck.
>>720799485Because they were too lazy to sitn down and design an interesting progression so they went procedural. The thing is making a good procedural system that doesn't play like shit also take time but by the time they realized this they were in too deep to not commit to it to the end. Ended up being half baked
DEEP LORE has ruined an entire generation of horror games
>>720820565Always trust the pitsNails are also pretty useful
>>720820513probably because it follows the vampire rule about they can't enter into a house without invitation
>>720789991>You can't tell the people knocking on your door to show you signs of not being a Visitor, you just let them in like a drooling retard>The crazy vigilante does this shit to you from the other side of the door and kills you if you do haveIt's so fucking retardedAlso every ending is dogshit>>720819049>Look Outside>HorrorThe moment you leave the first few areas it turns into fucking Undertale with friendly mutants and once you have 4 niggas in a row every enemy and boss turns into exp fodder
>>720821475so why does that faggot still come in if you're alone
>game is a lazy metaphor for the dev's daddy issues and him being an antisocial autistlol
>>720801768Except it is literally random so you might as well do a coin toss for everybody
Great concept ruined by horrendous game design at every corner. For a game like this to work you need the player to give a shit about the characters, yet the devs seemed to go out of their way to make sure that you don't. Characters have nothing valuable to say, nor do they ever give you any items like your neighbor at the start implies. You can't discern whether a character is a visitor or not at the door, so they just get a free kill once you let them in. Even checking them later hardly matters so you might as well just flip a coin >>720801472The game is also way too heavy with events that just kill multiple characters at random. At no time past the first playthrogh did I ever feel bothered by a character dying as every single time it felt random and out of my control.Ultimately this all results in the player no longer caring about any of the characters and them just becoming disposable, interchangeable pawns to reach the end.Won the game on my third run and I have no inclination to ever play it again. It is pretty fun for the first run before the illusion breaks though, perfect slop to watch on youtube instead of paying money for.
>Save the game at night>Soft lock because when I reload nobody knocks at the door but can't go to sleep either
>>720802140it's just NIHILISMdo you get itNIHILISMour unsubtle religious lore got figured out before the game even released so we had to double down on NIHILISMyour character wants to die and is disappointed when they surviveor wants to be alone so much they manage to enter limbo where they live on that one meme island with the single house forever in a state between being alive and deada bunch of other shitty endings like joining femathey even rip off that one film with jennifer lawrence and friendo where she's being fucked around by god-satan and her kid is killed and eaten by cultists or whatever, you bang a visitor and she gives birth to some special child and then the cult come and worship the child to death and take you away as their messiah and oksfljshdfg;ljadhfg'lsdfhgljsfhxglnwasl'fkjazds'lgjwhat a fucking joke this game ended up being
What's the point of giving so many ways to check people when you barely have any energy anyway?
>>720799328If only Caseoh wasn't such a massive faggot. There's zero chance he's straight.
>>720822509>nor do they ever give you any items like your neighbor at the start impliesThey did for me, the fat guy gave me kombucha
>watch the endings on youtube>in the regular bad ending the visitors politely wait 2 whole months to kill you in the basementBut why
>>720797987>it has to be explained or its Bad !! Where's my 40k lotr worldbuilding !!We zoomers really can't handle art huh
>>720789991>No, I'm not a humanWhat is it then?
>>720823148He is, may God forgive me for uttering the word, a furry
>>720817131>mentally ill brown fatfag thinks that's attractive
>>720823148A potato demon fresh from the dirt
>>720821527>Also every ending is dogshitWhat are the endings? Just different flavors of "and nothing mattered because everyone was doomed anyway"?
It's overwhelminglypositive on steam Wtf is wrong with v?
>>720823712Steamoids are easy to please
>>720806413But it wasn't a last minute call because the dev said it with the demo, so he might just be retarded
>>720823696https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYp-gssOHdM
>>720824398Bro if he can just break the door at any time, and come in uninvited, why does the shirtless visitor cares if you are alone or not? What does having more people suppose to do?
>>720821179It would be as easy as not letting a visitor kill someone their first night in desu (which I thought they did because they have never killed anyone on their first night)
>>720824520He's clearly the type of monster that follows seemingly random and irrelevant rules. He'll only invade a home if the person is alone.Asking why is kind of missing the point with such things. It's just how they behave.
>>720824678they are shy and dont want to be exposed, it is said in the radio thats why you gotta reject the girl
>>720823712indie games get kid gloves
>>720824678>He's clearly the type of monster that follows seemingly random and irrelevant rules.Didn't he say at some point that he's not actually in control and that he's following orders? I guess that plot point is never resolved. >>720824762>they are shy and dont want to be exposedYeah he's super shy walking around shirtless murdering entire squad of soldiers harrassing the player every other day with constant speeches that never lead anywhere.
>>720824762>they are shyTwice he stands outside your house surrounded by corpses and the second time he's showing off to tell you, yes, he's the one who did it
>>720789991From the demo I thought it had a solid $5 worth of production values along with a good premise so I'll probably wait till it is priced what it's worth, praise backlog for allowing me to buy games on my own timescale.
>>720823696Nah, one is actually cool and the MC becomes a vigilante after getting shot in the gut
>>720789991>>720790615>>720801768nah randomization actually does ruin the pace, because it means the only discernible gameplay you have (making pseudo-informed decisions about who to let in) can just be rendered moot>>720794098You're 100% correct, the fact this isn't NG+ mode and is a core design shift actually boggles the mind a little
Didn't this already release, under a different name?
>>720824520I seem to remember that before if you had someone at the house if you told him you were alone he went "Nah bitch you lying" and left anywaysCould have gone the route of "If someone is watching they can't kill you" or something like that
>>720798239That explains why /v/ likes it.>dogshit indie game>no redeeming factors>has the dogshit retard fetishes modern 4chan considers to be acceptable
>>720824860>>720824880im shy when i go to a new home, its easy to be outgoing ouside thoyou lack empathy
>>720824398>In the end not the sun nor FEMA nor the visitors are explained.Dev is probably going to mask this as some sort of artistic choice but I know he's just too incompetent to write something satisfying so he didn't even try.
>>720823696Besides the regular bad ends like Vigilante and pale-man they all feel unfinished or not giving you an clear answer to the questions you make through the game.>Cultist, Death and Fatal child ending They come out of fucking nowhere and feel nonsensical with the entire tone of the game, and at best Cultist tells you that everything that's happening is biblical>FEMAYou get recruited by FEMA and only learn that they recruit randomly with no direction. What they do, where do you they go or what happens to the "test subjects"? nada, they are questions even the MC can make through the game and again in the ending and you get no answer.Even the good ending doesn't feel rewarding, the radio tells you people will be able to go outside again and the MC just feels dissapointed because he has nothing else to do. He doesn't even question what will happen with the visitors that managed to get into a house, if the FEMA is still active or even how fucked up the world would be with the paranoia of the event.It doesn't even feel like a downer ending, it just makes you think the MC is a nihilistic faggot and the dev may have been projecting way too hard.
All I've learned from this is that russians can't make a good game.
>>720826326fema are the ones creating visitors and the subjects are the ones who turn into visitors
>>720826440>fema are the ones creating visitors and the subjects are the ones who turn into visitorsWhy? This doesn't make a lick of sense.
>>720826547because they're a group of terrorists who seek to doom mankindthat's just my headcanon but the game doesn't really cover fema or visitors so it's still possible
>>720826415>russians can't make a good game It's been well known fact since forever. The art of making good games is just gone.
>>720826651You see, to make art one requires a soul, and Russians lost their souls when Jews took over and founded the USSR. Ever since Russia has been nothing but a wasteland of spirituality.
I played and got a couple endings last night, I think it's a cool setting and premise but the mechanical execution is a lot to be desired. I'm pretty sure like another anon said, everything is randomized on reload so you can have humans that are now visitors and vice versa which really fucks up the game. The music I find is really good, I like the different themes for some of the characters (Intruder, Hunter, Observer) are all really good and add a lot of intensity to the dialogue. I guess my biggest gripe is that the game is like $15 usd for basically 90 minutes of game which is kind of rough. There is a good amount of replay value but it's not really new dialogue and such, just doing different things to get different endings.If on a budget I'd hold off and get on sale/pirate but otherwise it's interesting enough to learn more about, and I am hopeful that devs may do more with updates down the road. Pic related for favorite character
>>720828556this guy is a visitor right?
>>720829906nah. I feel like the tall guy, daughter, and firefighter are always human while the white t-shirt lady is always a visitor
>>720829906He wasn't in my game. He dies after 3 days upon entering your house. I gave him one of my cigs before he passed. ;_;7
>>720829906No. He's just burned pretty badly.
>>720793373Same. Earlier watched my favorites tob and ecto play the game.
>>720811863Basically everyones face is based on someone it seems. There are some that look like lolcows
>>720830915Yeah late in the game I found this Joe Rogan look alike that even mentioned being a comedian, it was pretty on the nose
>>720789991Didn't care for it. I don't mind that zoomers have latched onto doppelgangers - but there's barely any deductive aspect to this, it's just War of Mine esque misery porn drama simulator. They set you up to have a fucking mess of a playthrough on purpose and even if you mitigate everything you're just going to be morally browbeat constantly. Hell if I was being super conspiratorial, I think it wasn't made by a zoomer at all, and that's why it's just a one-note miserable simplistic shit game.Good for streamers. Not for playing. I hope all your favourite streamers give you some good reactions to this, /v/.
>>720823013Yeah this is a main problem I have. You got 6 tests but like 4 or less energy per day. You got many people to check and the tests are randomized. Also what they say has nothing to do with the tests. So there is literally no way of actually knowing whos a visitor. You just have to get lucky and shoot them.
>>720831494Yeah I agree they went from giving you more than enough energy in the demos to having not even close to enough, especially as you get later into the game. Combine that with having (mostly? if not all? I dont even know for sure) randomized assignments of humans and visitors, you're basically never going to be able to make a "perfect" playthrough without a lot of luck involved.
>>720789991Dead Reset is the only horror game worth playing atm
>>720793373people still partake in vtuber tranny activities?
>>720830915>>720831007maybe visitors faces are based on real humans or other litterature like judge holden and real humans faces are unique?
>>720831863>>720831494You're supposed to give FEMA notices to the people you're skeptical of but haven't had time to fully test yet
>>720832250They're all equally skeptical with an equal amount of time to test.
Is a person a visitor only if they have all of the traits you're told about on the news, or does having even one of the suspicious traits make them a possible visitor?
>>720832250That's valid somewhat, but you only get I think maybe 2 slips in a run, and FEMA takes I think at least 6 people per run. Due to the random nature, I dont think its feasible to take a visitor each time before FEMA visits, and then be able to pass them off the next night without them killing anyone.Though now you mention it, I do like the idea of some visitors not being hostile (cashier lady was like this, at least she was in the demo), and some humans murdering people regardless (the tony soprano lookalike thief guy was this in the demo, pic related) just to further muddy it all up. Maybe that's the whole point of the game, after awhile everything goes to shit and its impossible to tell whos who, but it sucks from a gameplay perspective, knowing that your run is more or less rng dependent regardless of how "well" you play it.
>>720823146>He calls the "Dostoyevsky living is to suffer" as art >the game is 10 fucking endings of the same "oh no, death, we suffer, no hope", but somehow, for this liberal arts student, this is pure art If the game had leaned to explain about the lore of the visitors with the same dedication they had to develop the same fucking endings, the game would be much better. Besides, the entire ideia of promoting distrust, social paranoia and etc is not really explored by the devs, which is a shame in a game where the hole theme is based on understanding what the fuck are you dealing with
Can the FEMA take away a visitor from your house?
>>720834963There are definitely some non-hostile visitorsSource - My first run I got the visitors in the basement ending despite nobody getting killed >>720835021yes
>>720835021yes, it seems to just be random as to who they take
>>720834873some can be false positives (like the gravedigger having dirt under his nails)they don't need to have all of them to be a visitor
>>720835158>>720835372LMAO what the fuckso the whole game is just a gigantic dice roll?
>>720835550I don't have a lot of time logged on the game, but from what I can tell so far, it seems like a lot of things in game are random to the point of even house occupants can potentially change from human to visitors upon reloading a previous save state.
>No, I'm not a humanDrop the a, just "No, I'm not human"it's cleaner
>>720790615Does that mean all the clues and dialog are useless? If so then the dev killed the game.
>>720835550It's a "mitigate chance" game, not a "figure shit out" game. Which is just bad design and it's not a good game, but it does mean you can probably win 100% of runs once you know what's going know, like FTL or whatever.
>>720836103>house occupants can potentially change from human to visitors upon reloading a previous save stateVery strange, unfair game design. Especially if there's no indication that you ever need to re-check people you think are safe over time.
>>720813943So what's the deal with him becoming skinnier every time you see him?
>>720826760I don't think they had a soul to begin with. Not when they churn out dogshit like tarkyiv and war thunder.
bros i'm letting the seductive woman in 100% of the time
>>720837162>Can't even talk to her like other guestskinda gay
>>720826440That'd only make sense if all the visitors were black
>>720801472This game just reminds me of bloodborne where you would send various niggas to somewhere they coulf shelter and then it turns out that one of them is actually a werewolf
>>720836947I don't think it was an intentional part of the game but I haven't seen confirmation.>>720836968It could be something as simple as supplies are getting scarce But I don't really know.2 more spoilers for people who have completed the game at least once - What's with the visitor that talks about the mushroom? I found it in my cellar and ate it later, but the guy telling me about it came back and mentioned something about me not following the paper text he gave me and left.Second thing regarding the Observer - He came, mentioned I had to save the cat. I took the cat + ballerina lady in. Lady got taken by FEMA later on. I gave the cat some catfood, then later that night I had some jumpscare moment where all the doors were open and I think I got grabbed by a visitor but when I woke up, everyone in my house was completely missing. The observer guy returned and said something about how things seem to be cloudy again and to check in the cellar, there's something underneath it. Next morning I had the option to dig but was busy interrogating people so I had no energy to dig. That night I got the Hunter ending so I couldn't follow up on all the leads I had. Anyone mind telling me what the shit I all missed?
>>720838886For the old man you must after eating the mushroom wait for the next day where an apple will appear on a shelf in the room with the cross, eat that apple and wait for the next day and a clock will appear in your room which you must interact with and when the old man returns he will see you did his tasks
>>720839440Got it! Thank you, will try that tonight. If I can remember how to trigger his encounter that is
>>720813730He also punishes you for having 2 Visitors in your house at the same time which is bullshit because of the randomization.>you're punished if you clean the house (see: >>720811306) >your punished if you don't
>>720824860>I guess that plot point is never resolved.From what I have gathered through this thread: yes
>>720826440>fema are the ones creating visitorsThen why did they say they come from underground?>inb4: missinformationNo because the nails test seems to be always correct except on maybe the graveyard guy.
>>720802013Will a skinwalker 100% kill you that night or is it a chance thing? Also do "safe" characters become skin walkers over night?
>>720841181the only for sure human is the tall guy at the start and the for sure ays are the shoulder woman and cat lady
>>720840992imean you don't know how they do their experiments maybe they put them underground
>>720802013Skinwalkers only kill if there is at least two of them. When you get to know this the game becomes extremely easy, especially if all your current housemates are confirmed to be human
So far I think the demo was better
>>720845280If you end the game with only 1 visitor in your house amongst other humans is it still a bad ending?
Wait is that true? You can't just sus out people through dialogue alone?
>>720845985Nope. In the current version of the game, the dialogue does not indicate whether or not someone is a visitor.
Has ear test ever been successful for anyone? I swear the ears are always human, no matter who I check
There's alot of mentions of Death and peace. Is this a game about accepting death? I feel Russian anons can help explain the endings better, maybe it's a culture thing?
>>720846496thats bait by visitors infiltrating the news
Is it even worth buying?
>>720846804As someone who bought it I can say with confidence that this is a game that you can experience 100% of the worthwhile content by just watching your favorite stream/youtuber person play itThere is not any meaningful room for player agency/doing shit different/etc.
>>720846804I got it on /v/'s recommendation and it's genuinely spooky if you're looking for scares
>>720846804pirate.
>>720845985you actually can. its just tertiaries whove lost patience to engage with the gsme in good faith to actuallu take note of the discrepency between the setting and the people. the game uses a mix between a few guaranteed clear people such as the starting guy and scorched and more, plus a few randoms who have slight changes at the door inorder to fit in the itemization that was put in, such as bribes, while theres also guaranteed imposters besides the starting woman and a human who kills. people skimming through run after run or only experiencing through streamers are only feeling the friction of not having everything solved for them because of what id only guess is todays gaming environment that it seems i didnt pay heed to. might change later it but i like it as a thin packaged proect.
good idea, but execution is kinda mehi got the ending where the gun guy comes to the door and you shoot eachotherapparently you can check yourself in the mirror? i was only getting the option that said "screw this." what did i miss?
>>720846804theres a girl that sleep on your bed and she hot
>>720847510>apparently you can check yourself in the mirror? i was only getting the option that said "screw this." what did i miss?it requires stamina
I don't get the complaints about "not everything got explained". Horror usually does best when some fucked up shit happens and it isn't explained, that helps with the horror; making it mysterious, chaotic, and unknowable even if the best minds try their best.Frankly I think we'd be disappointed if the sun/visitor thing ever got explained. Sometimes you can't know everything and can only make guesses.
>>720847850I think rather than "Nothing got explained" my problem with the game's 'plot' is more like nothing got addressed even. The endings just veer off into nihilismslop/death meta commentary which some of the guests DO touch on if you talk to them but feels sort've out of nowhere overallAlso the thing I hate the most is how hand wavey the Vigilante and Pale Visitor guy just fuck off. >Oh you survived my scripted game over encounters X times? Guess I'm leaving and moving on because...reasons I guess
Is there a way to reset the save data? Which folder is it in?
>>720847850Rather than the overall narrative not getting explained I'm more disappointed that the smaller self contained narratives don't get resolved either.
>>720848017>>720848190Ehhhh it's a shame. The art design and the cutscenes are REALLY good. Maybe the writing chops weren't that good, or maybe it's some side consequence of living in Russia currently?I don't wanna harsh on the dev, he had an idea, and the talent is there. Maybe he'll cook longer next time. I hope he does more in the future.
>>720848480Yeah I think that's the best way to explain what's wrong; It's Undercooked. Not enough to where you can't eat it, but still could be better.
>>720848480Yeah the idea is obviously good considering there have already been a handful of copycats for the game before it even came out officially.I just think it's a case of "What was in the demo was 90% of what the actual game ended up being"
>>720790419I'm reading the thread now and if I can't check the child's armpits I'm not buying.
>>720848837you can't
>>720789991I played the demo and the writing was awful, probably translated from another language
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>>720849608the kid is ugly anyway you dumb pedo fuckthere a real woman who wants your dick and she suck ur dick a ton
>>720849480they are russians, the spanish translation is horrible too.
>>720789991Where's the fitgirl repack? I've been locked out of steam for like 2 years now and I refuse to make another one.
Anyone else find the demo better? Like way better?
if it wasn't randomized the gameplay literally wouldn't be a thing, the bug is fucked up tho but it's obviously not intentional
>>720849731Frankly it's a miracle the guy was able to make and finish the game without being dragged to the frontlines.
cant wait until the mod comes that changes all the ugly portraits into cuter ones. Of course no need to go overboard with sexy but something slightly easier to look at.The badly translated first demo had some charm to it too with the text being slightly goofed up.
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mlmRDTQi8
>>720852203>3 hours>part 1How in the fuck. A game like this should be 2 hours tops.
>>720823097they thought it would be appropriately funny
>>720852739That's cut down. It took him over 5 hours.
>>720852942Thats way too bloated unless the gane really justifies it.
>>720852994Game crashed at one point
>>720852994It's clearly designed for multiple playthroughs
>>720847850The closest we get to an explanation are taking the Cultist & Entrance To Death endings together, which heavily implies the apocalypse is being caused by Death Itself deciding to claim the entire world.
>>720852739I am guessing that, if there are two parts, the first videos is the entire first playthrough, mistakes and all, while the second video in the series has him finish all the endings.If there a part three, it's because the part two was Manly experimenting and doing things differently than his first playthrough.>>720852994Since a lot of the game is randomized, I think, at this point, it's equally about the personality of the player as it is about the game itself.
>>720848017I think it's because the guy who made did complete 180 on whole randomization thing, like nerd scientists theories are completly plausible and would explain alot, but if he'd roll as a visitor it wouldn't make sense, anyways FEMA yanked him from me even though I had 4 other people with me and had to look up his lines after the fact
>>720851292Actually I just thought of something from my post.How *do* modern Russian game devs avoid the frontline? (not trying to polbait, genuinely wondering)
>>720853602They don't enlist.
>>720853602Concripts aren't getting sent into the meat grinder. It's professional soldiers, volunteers, convicts that wanted a way out, and people who did what Fry and Bender did in that one episode of Futurama and then "war were declared".
>>720853602A vast majority of the people dying in Ukraine is Russia scraping the barrel. Nobody will care if alcoholics, drug addicts and convicts die
>>720853870>>720854023what is Russia's endgame and when do they start making a real attempt at taking Ukraine?
>>720854375>what is Russia's endgameDisposal of the dregs of society>when do they start making a real attempt at taking Ukraine?They lost the opportunity at the opening of the war
>>720854375They're fighting an attrition war. They don't care too much about territory and just want to kill as many of the enemy as possible until the Ukrainian army collapses and they can just swarm everything with ease. They can keep it going for years if need be. This strategy costs fewer lives and is also less likely to draw in NATO, and also weakens NATO because they waste all their equipment on Ukraine over a longer period of time.
>>720854375They have stated many times: Demilitarization and Denazificatiton, which is conveniently ambiguous enough to mean that they won't stop until every able-boded Ukrainian male is dead because he's a potential military personnel or nazi extremist.
>>720854542nigga ukraine is getting handme down shit
Does Papers Please also have an endless random option? I don't see what the issue is but I haven't played the game. Is it because the people change when they enter the house or like what? Idk I seem to be missing something.
>>720854794Well imagine that one memorable funny guy was randomly an actual terrorist or not. And instead of a long curated campaign of Papers Please, it's just that randomized mode. A curated campaign alongside the randomized mode would've been optimal. You can do a lot more with character plots and an overarching story that way. There's a lack of meaning with this being the main mode.