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Sex with spiders!
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First for Lace best girl and sequel protagonist!!!
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Ngl I feel like I don’t have anything else to talk about silksong for now, I hope the dlc comes quick
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>>721124061
Can't wait for the nude Hornet mod for a full run. Also give her a bit wider hips.
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>widow has hidden needolin dialogue in the cradle of all places
Cool.
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>>721124237
okay then
you may leave now
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im getting filtered at karmelita
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>>721124061
whats with the stupid dress
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What was your playtime when you reached act 3?
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>>721124281
Try not attacking while she's blocking
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>>721124268
What?
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>>721124061
How come weaver masks are like cracked eggs?
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>>721124281
It's the second hardest fight for sure. The top of the room is a big safe zone for healing though.
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>>721124364
40 hours
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>The top of the room is a big safe zone for healing though.
IM FUCKING USING THE SHAMAN CREST
I CANT HEAL MIDAIR
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>>721124364
30 hours or so, maybe less, I was at 34 when I first completed it I think
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Just beat first sinner, it was a fun fight. Done with this game now, I've heard too much shit about act 3 sucking wildly and on top of how much the rest of the game sucks so hard at times I don't wanna put up with that again
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>>721124395
Exit at Terminus and go up and instead of turning left into Grandma's room break the wall on the right. Go inside and play.
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>>721124223
She has a nice sleek moveset, would like a sequel with her that's even more about nice dodges and parries that flow into one another. All her fights were my favorites because they just flow so nicely, especially if you stick close to her. Also only boss I never considered using tools on.
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POSHANKA
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>>721124281
Poison tacks did great for me. That and a fully upgraded needle with wanderer crest.
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>>721124413
This one in particular got cracked open. I think most of them are still spheres.
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>>721124364
72h
But I frequently let the game run in the background while I do other stuff.
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How do I get this flea and what's the deal with this structure I'm standing at? Reminds me of the Hive
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>>721124061
the game peaked with the chuuni spider
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>>721124691
From greymoor
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>>721124519
I'd rather play as Sherm
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>>721124476
Go bench and change it then.
Dream fights also let you use tools for free and you're using the one crest that has no tools. Either that or just git gud and learn the fight.
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>>721124691
let's just say there's a whole part of greymoor you've overlooked (like me)
no idea what that big bell is about bell pillar is about though
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>>721124691
There's an entire area of the map in that gap to your right that you access via the top left of Greymoor.
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>>721124061
You guys weren't lying about the FIrst Sinner being an incredibly fun boss. Also pretty much the only one in the entire game I've had to use the dash attack on.
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THIS IS BULLSHIT THE BLADES FUCKING FLY AROUND AND TRACK YOU MIDAIR
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Is this nigga serious?
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>>721124862
I don't know dick about this fight but just glancing at that have you tried just swatting the blades out of the air
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>>721124061
investing in Geo or Rosaries?
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>>721124281
Unironically fight her like Pure Vessel. Use the pogo to get around her. Her shurikens are mostly noisemaking, they're not hard to dodge and your real openings come from when she charges you.
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LOL, LMAO
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>>721124862
the amount of times I've seemingly gone out of my way to run into a projectile is sad
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>>721124364
22 hours to reach Act 2
55 hours to reach Act 3 because I was trying to full clear the map as much as possible and wasn't looking at guides
68 hours to finish Act 3
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>>721124862
lookit this nigga
jumping into attacks against the boss designed to punish excessive jumping
what an absolute fool
Captha: Ggaka
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I have a confession to make, /v/. I tacks spammed the last phase of The Unravelled. I actually feel like I cheated myself a bit but the fight just drags on forever.
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>>721124281
Literally did her in 10 tries. I just liked her moveset and flow a lot.
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>>721124364
62 I think
I did every quest and boss I could find, there was a lot of backtracking
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beating the game in 5 hours is ez, you should try it
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>>721124281
it was filtering me too until i went to sleep which refreshed my muscle memory and after which i was finally able to appreciate the fight with her for how kino it gets when you get in the right flow.
still, she has too much hp i'm gonna say
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>>721124364
30 hours
I spent a stupid amount of time running around aimlessly trying to find the upgrade that'd get me to upper Bilewater because I could've sworn I confirmed double jump wasn't enough
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>>721124862
Dodge inward.
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>>721125102
I'm thinking based
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I’m playing the first game right now, what do I do against NKG because he does a lot of damage and his attacks are very fast.
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is the bell lacquer a one time thing only? can't change my bell color later? are there any images showing what all the colors look like
this is vital
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>>721125102
If he wants to scrape his fat gut on the floor he deserves it
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>>721125159
This. The mechanic is made to punish you for running away. It's like how Radiance would summon two light walls so you had to proactively go through one of them or your cooldown wouldn't be up in time for the second one.
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>>721124691
Like others have said, it's in grey more. You see that upper room above the left tower? There's a breakable wall.
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>>721125102
its the unraveled. the only thing you cheated yourself out of was 5 more minutes of being mildly annoyed.
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>>721125102
Fuck the Unravelled. Very tedious boss. Tacks + Sawblade + Didn't ask + Don't care + Not worth my time + If it isn't fun why bother + I beat the game. I don't have an issue with DUDE JUST SPAM TOOLS LMAO bosses, since they're in the game and it stands to reason there are bosses designed around them, but the fact that you permanently lose ammo every time you die makes all such encounters really annoying if you don't get them in just 1-2 tries.
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>>721125102
the weird thing about the boss fights in this game is that the fights are hard but also feel like they take for fucking ever since they're so easy once you master the first phase. so no I don't blame you at all.
I'm sure Silksong will feel like a 10/10 once they add whatever the Godhome equivalent is but rn it can really drag
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>>721125102
I feel like half the people do this, the fight is just so slow and monotone, and you only have openings for like 1 hit at a time. Fucking deleting his ass with a billion tacs is the moral choice.
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>>721125248
His attacks are very precise and fair. Slow down and spend some runs learning to dodge.
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>>721125248
don't get hit
don't even bother trying to heal outside 100% guaranteed to work openings
That's it
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>>721125031
For the record, I died and killed the boss at the exact same time.
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Finally got to the diving bell in act 3. Is this it? Seems pretty short so I doubt it, but if it is i want to go exploring first.
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>>721124862
I see your problem with the move that send two projectiles towards you. Either do a single jump, hit the projectile with your needle at the right time or dash through the opening.
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>>721125406
His ground spikes keep getting me. I keep running into them thinking they’re under me but they’re super fast.
>>721125409
I’ll try that because the only time I can hit him is when he does the flame pillar move
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>>721125302
It’s the only boss besides Groal I’ve used tool spam on though. And I didn’t hate it even 10% as much as I hated Groal. Groal was the moment I learned how effective tool abuse is and I’m worried I can’t un-learn that now. I’m worried Groal sucked so hard it ruined every boss fight that came after.
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>>721125248
Every Attack he does is an opportunity to do damage to him
The goal is to dodge and strike everything
While he is fast, he is fair, focus on learning the timings to dodge each attack first, then work out how to attack while doing so
Don't be rude, attacking a bowing Grim puts him into his bullet hell phase instantly
Also, his Bullet Hell attack triggers every 25% health he's at, so you can track how close to death he is, and while its invincible to normal attacks its not invincible to SCREAM magic
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>>721125302
>the fact that you permanently lose ammo every time you die makes all such encounters really annoying
I mean, you don't even have to grind the shards, you can literally just buy them, though I've never ran out and have all of the shard bundles you find as loot unopened.
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>>721125248
Don't panic and watch his attack patterns. Everything he does can be evaded pretty easily, and then punished.

>bat attack from a distance
Let him shoot 2, dash between them, otherwise he teleports away if you dash too early
>diagonal slash with followup
Jump and pogo
>fire pillars
walk in tiny steps away from him and let him cast 2, dash through the other ones and punish
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anyone else end up getting a duplicate food quest item by accident?
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>>721125102
The Unravelled is meant to be a slog of attrition against an undead zombielike enemy with a massive pool of hitpoints that refuses to die. That being said, he's one of the few enemies in Silksong that I completely understand cheesing with tools until he kills himself on poison tacks, and would encourage you to do so.
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>>721125454
No, that's just the start. Act three isn't super long if you can actually beat the bosses quickly, but it's a lot longer than just the abyss. in fact you'll unlock a lot of little side areas in a moment.
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>>721125454
You first go down, get a new skill, and then you have a bunch to explore more. Good luck getting back out.
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>>721125356
You can hit his face once and his ass twice basically every cycle he runs across, and you get 2-3 face strikes for the others. I just hated dodging his “spit 3 enemy balls” attack because it really punishes you for being close enough to hit.
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When I first started playing the game I said that fighting as Hornet, in comparison to the Knight, was like trying to fight with both your legs chopped off, and after getting the 100% completion I say that feel's still there. You can get used to it but it never goes away and it still rears its head in sections that make the game super unpleasant to play. Coral Tower is complete bullshit in comparison to the Hollow Knight coliseums due to how you don't have sustainable spells anymore, your tools have to be hoarded for the last wave and your healing is absurdly punishing to use in terms of how hard it cucks your silk arts output, relative to Hollow Knight. Hornet is like doing a tryhard nail-only bindings run of Hollow Knight only her nail moveset is kind of shit as well.
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So let me get this right:
>Hunter: Only good if you're know the fight well enough to not get hit
>Reaper: Noob crutch heal spam with easy pogo
>Wanderer: Absolutely busted
>Beast: Wanderer if it was balanced
>Witch: Trash
>Architect: Absolutely busted
>Shaman: Trash
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>>721125279
>is the bell lacquer a one time thing only?
Yes.
>can't change my bell color later?
Correct.
>are there any images showing what all the colors look like
Probably, but I don't have them.
White looks pretty cool imo.
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>>721125554
I got like 3 moss foods. I handed 2 in, and 1 is still sitting in my inventory a full act later.
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>>721124061
this fight was so easy
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>>721125598
Let it die
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>>721125513
Grinding money to buy shards still counts as farming shards desu. I'd say that if you never worried about shards ever, you never really fully experimented with using them and feeling out their capabilities.
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>>721125598
Kill it
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The citadel is such a shithole
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Holy shit that was so fucking nerve-wracking, I beat her on 1 HP left. Thankfully it only took me 30 minutes.
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>>721125636
That's not a mistake, you should hand it in, the druid will be happy!
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>>721125598
Buy the DLC
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>>721125683
>>721125703
How?
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>>721125665
How do you get her to help with this?
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>>721125603
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>>721124237
I don't either but I want to stick around while I still have interest in the game to help any anons who are stuck.
And I'm trying to hype myself up to do a 100% Steel Soul Speedrun. Wish me luck.
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>>721125731
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>>721125684
I used like 300 shards just satisfying the Huntress quest, and that one only has the rule “kill with tools”.
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>22 hours
>Still in act 1
Maybe this game isn't for me.
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>>721125607
I have only used hunter the entire game because it has a nice compromise of speed and range. The extra damage you unlock was just a bonus, and pretty much always activates after you stagger a boss.
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>>721125592
With Hunter you can Pogo his face and land on the wall behind him if you react fast enough to him coming up
It works out because if he's doing his rush you just bounce off his helmet and dodge it, but if he's doing projectiles you dodge them and sneak in some damage
I couldn't do it reliably so I just face-tanked the projectiles
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>>721125734
Do her quest.
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My last four journal entries are in the abyss, can you come back once you descend for the final time or are you locked into doing the boss?
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>>721125810
I mostly used Hunter too, because it's the most fun in terms of movement. But compared to this shit it is really lackluster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEfNHwLA_QE
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>>721125797
Depends where you are in Act 1
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>>721125603
>find stag beetle to the right 30 hours later
>open door
>he fucks off, never to return
I guess i just miss that log
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>>721125797
What's wrong with taking your time?
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>>721124061
Platforming sections in the boss runback is a good thing and i wish there was more of it. I do have fun doing the platforming on the way back to the boss (everyone who complains about the runbacks do too, but they don't want to admit it) just like i would have fun doing some random platforming to get an iteam or progress the story.
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>>721125684
You have so many rosaries with nothing else to spend on. And with all the shard cashes you find, you have all the shards you'll ever need to experiment.
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>>721125797
On the contrary, this is a game about exploration. As long as you're still discovering new stuff and having fun then there's nothing wrong with taking your time.
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>there is a steelsoul exclusive boss
gay
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>>721125598
Use the dream nail.
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>>721125908
I unironically enjoy gauntlets and runbacks.
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>>721125598
Where to find this little guy? He seems to be a good sport
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>>721125692
This exact same shit happened to me, was missing 1 roasier, but found a cash up top in a secret room, and was able to unlock the waystation.
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>>721125925
Apparently it's just one of those void-corpse things from Act 3
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>>721125607
Witch is one of the absolute strongest in the game. The amount of DPS you can put out rivals a max evolved max focus hunter creat which should be the highest DPS in the game. Reaper is a trap because its swings don't do more damage at all when you'd expect them to.
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>>721125915
>You have so many rosaries with nothing else to spend on
Liar. You're spending like 300 per zone just on maps and benches. Don't even pretend that you don't spend all of Act 1 and most of Act 2 broke as fuck. You have to get to Songclave to find enemies that can keep you above water financially.
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>>721125884
You can actually get him still, it’s convoluted
You have to break that paywall door so it’s locked open. After a while you’ll find him in the shop rampaging and terrorizing everyone. The bench and shop will be off-limits til you kill him
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>>721125915
>use all boomerangs and tacks
>160 shards to refill, once
>one (1) enemy gives 3-7 shards
Yeah fuck off
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>>721125797
What are you in a hurry to do?
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>>721125710
>Seal away your tyrannical creator
>your society based around keeping her sealed away becomes even more tyrannical and despotic than she was
>seal weakens and she just casually usurps the Citadel
Such is life in Pharloom
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>>721125797
Took me 30 hours to finish act I in my first playthrough
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>>721124514
Is this on act 3?
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>>721125984
Post dump truck
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>>721126023
I don't think I ever reached a bench or fast travel and not have enough to activate it
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>>721125607
Wanderer exists to teach you why Hornet is the NPC punching bag and the Knight is the main character. Game's so much easier with Wanderer almost all of the time it's not even funny.
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>>721125710

Heretical thoughts get you a trip to The Slab or Whiteward
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>>721124508
KWAB
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What happens with silkeaters in steel soul. Also that guy that makes silkeaters for you.
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>>721125881
lol that looks funny
Wanderer turns form "fast agile" crest into the facetank crest.
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>>721126197
the Simp is Fucking Dead
And there's a hidden NPC near him that buys your silkeaters
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>>721126197
You get money for them like in hk
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>>721124691
Well, that just happened
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>>721126042
I literally said you can buy the shards in stores
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>>721126125
I don't think you ever bought a single item besides them then, so why are you talking about the tool economy when you didn't even touch the system?
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>>721126023
Idk my dude, I have never felt poor in the game, and I also bought the rosarie necklaces a lot so I can have them saved in case of emergencies.
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>>721126339
I bought everything though?
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So can you come back from the last dive or not? I just want my full journal, I still have shit to do.
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>>721126365
What the fuck actually counts as your being changing or whatever to get power ups from Eva?
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>>721126287
Switch to Wanderer. This is AbsRad phase 3 with a floor. Pogo and move and pogo and move and pogo and move. Make a circuit to trick the tracking on the projectiles.
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>>721126339
erm... no, actually i just... never died, ehehe.... and found all the rosaries in the game, lol...
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Beat Lost Lace
84% completion, 35 hours
I don't think I like this game half as much as Hollow Knight
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Was the 2nd beastfly supposed to spawn ads? I heard this was worse than the first but idk it has a simple moveset that was supported by the ads and the platform gimmick doesn’t mean much with claw + hover.
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>>721126414
Using memory lockets and unlocking crests.
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>>721126413
Game saves after you win, starts from Bench near the dive
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>>721126413
Thats the road to the final boss. After beating the game you respawn before the fight.
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>>721126414
Just unlocking tool slots with the memory lockets.>>721126414
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>>721126365
is she talking to the demon root baby living in hornet's womb?
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>>721126446
2nd beastfly is a gear check, if you meet him at an upgrade level where you can wipe the adds without thinking you barely notice they're there, but depending on how you routed through act 2 you can find him comparatively very early and if the adds stay alive he's fucking gay.
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>he doesn't have a purple map quill
baka
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>>721126519
yeah
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>>721126023
I was broke after I bought the key midway through act 1 and then when I reached & exploded sinner’s road and did quests, I rarely ever went below 1000. I’ve come close to losing shards but then I just play serious and stop fucking around, except when I donate them to constructions where I make it a priority to buy some really quick.
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>>721125159
>dodge inward
>contact damage
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>>721126502
I wish they were more clear about this
Why the hell would I use the lockets on crests I don't plan to use
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>>721125607
Hunter is solid even if you don't know the boss
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>>721126546
How do I get to whatever's banging the door at pilgrim's rest? Is it another act 3 thing?
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>>721126472
>>721126498
I always lose all my motivation to keep playing a game after the ending, guess I'll save those 4 enemies to the very end. Now to find those last two memory lockets...
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>>721124862
Can you downward dash?
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>>721126618
Hidden entrance in the bellbeast station room
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>>721126605
You have enough lockets for all the crests
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>>721126384
The only rosary machine in the game before act 2 is greymoor, meaning you never bought out the merchant in act 1 proving what I said about just not interacting with the shit. Yeah you're gonna have funds if you don't interact with any of the systems the game wants you to use.
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>>721126654
Yes!
The game never tells you this.
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>>721126545
Oh ok. Well I mean, that’s the problem… he NEVER summoned adds. I mean you’re not wrong anyway, I don’t doubt I would’ve struggled since I beat the first one without the AOE and I have the AOE now, but still. Think it glitched. I don’t mind though, it’s fucking beast fly.
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>>721126605
Past a certain point, what are you saving them for?
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>>721126690
Anon you can buy rosarie necklaces at shops
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>>721126502
>>721126458
Holy fuck I hoarded my lockers for most of the game because I prefer just using Hunter. Why are these devs like this? They also completely lie to you about where the Pollen Heart is.
Tangential: where's the last crest? Is it just somewhere secret I haven't found or is it part of the act 3 story after getting all the hearts? I have the Witch/parasite crest and architect, and wanderer/beast/reaper
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>>721126690
>not buying out merchants is not interacting with the game
What kind of fucked up logic is this? I still haven’t bought the compass from Shakra because, guess what? I know what it does, and I don’t need it. Same with the magnet brooch.
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>>721126679
>>721126720
My point is why go into the menu and open the locket slots on crests I don't care about
The only reason to do that is for Eva's upgrades which the game doesn't properly clue you in on and half the upgrades are for the starter crest anyways so why fucking tie it to the others
(mad because I only figured out what Eva was on about an hour before finishing Act 3)
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>>721126761
Shaman is in the snail house. Use Soaring upwards at the lore thingy to the right of them.
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>>721126031
I already broke the door of the shop and then later let him out but he hasn't returned yet. Still in Act 1.
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>>721126750
People who regularly lose their rosaries but refuse to engage with this mechanic baffle me. It's just a skill tax.
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>>721126819
>He thinks he's too cool for the magnet broach when all of the yellows suck and half your cash drops into spikes without it
Very contrarianpilled.
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anyone else feeling burn out of all the boss learning thing? I think I won't touch another fast paced game for years after I'm done with this
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>>721126693
>The game never tells you this.
there's also almost no instances where the downward dash is practical.
the only time i were using it "unironically" were those speedmaster races. but even there it's not like it's needed to succeed
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Does not breaking the door to Pilgrim's Rest save it from being pillaged in Act 3?
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>>721126830
Man, I always forget to check for shit like that, no wonder I didn't find it
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Guys, is there a way to go through here? At the right end of Craw Lake, do I need a skill? I'm still at act 2.
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>>721126915
No, not at all. I love it. I'm on my second playthrough and I regularly stop my progress to practice fights until I can perfect them.
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what the fuck is this update, i thought i was downloading the game again.
why is this so big?
the game is 7gb right?
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>>721126853
I can’t guarantee it isn’t conditional on being in Act 2 or anything else. I only know that’s where I eventually found him.
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>>721126927
No.
I didn't break it and it was still fucked.

>>721126959
Come back in act 3
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>>721126927
It doesnt.
t. didnt know you could break the door
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>>721126959
noh, come back later, ok bye love you <3
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Just finished Mt Fay. I was surprised to discover it was fun instead of the cruel torture anons made it out to be.
The platforming challenge was a good length, but I think the heat mechanic could have remained fun longer. An optional boss where you need to manage your safe zones would have been nice.
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>>721126893
I do regularly "lose" my rosaries, but mostly out of lazyness, like exploring somewhere and then dying to quick port back to a bench. This is why I always make sure to buy out those 120 rosarie necklaces for 140, and the only lose like 10~20 if I feel like not having to do a corpse run.
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>>721124862
I felt sad for Karmelita
>Be kino dancer and impressive fighter and one of the rulers of the area
>Be uncontested for so long you grow fat and lazy and old as fuck
>On your deathbed some weird bug on a poncho comes challenging you
>lol
>lmao
>Actually she wants to fight you in your prime and she starts ripping out the guitar for one last performance wtf
>she gets repeatedly stomped by you (in minecraft)
Actually no I don't she's one of the best encounters in the fucking game. I just don't like how hornet basically barged in a retirement home and killed some old lady.
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>>721126031
What if I made it to act 3 without doing that and the shop is... act 3.
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>>721126502
I thought Eva's upgrades were linked to Silk Hearts, Silk Skills, or finding new Crests. Honestly would have been better instead of it being locked to the Lockets.
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>>721126904
I usually just go down to get them, or hit the beads slowly. I have shard pendant, magnetite dice, and silkspeed anklets. Yellows just exist to make life slightly easier and I’d rather have more shards than more money.
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>>721124061
Hmm, thoughts?
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So let me get this straight:
>Grand Mother Silk is a Higher Being
>She makes the Weavers and/or bestows silk upon lesser bugs to make them into the high caste Weaver species
>The Weavers are her darling children so she decides they need more things
>She starts a religion promising eternal life if other bugs just injected themselves with her silk
>She begins to forcefully enslave other regions, using them to build up her citadel in the center of Pharloom into a gleaming paradise
>This goes on for presumably hundreds of years if not thousands of years
>The Weavers, despite being the favorite children and getting everything they want, decide they don't like this and fuck off to Hallownest to live in squalor
>GMS goes insane, makes Lace as a surrogate child
>At this point, presumably without the Weavers influence, the Citadel starts going to shit, just like the rest of Pharloom
>GMS sends envoys out to every corner of the world demanding they find Weavers and bring them back to her
>Years pass, GMS goes into a cocoon coma and almost everyone in the Citadel dies over time
>One of those envoys eventually finds you
>Lace is still around since she's an artificial being and doesn't naturally die
>Jealousy makes her wake up GMS, who begins to puppet everyone's corpses with The Haunting, due to the residual silk nearly everyone in Pharloom has inside of them.

Did I miss anything? Why did the Weavers leave?
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>>721126983
Oh shit, DLC is out
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>>721126316
Over half the enemies in the game dont even drop rosaries, the only ones that do are the fucking citadel enemies.
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>>721126750
I am talking about the shops, dumbass. The first merchant you have access to leaves when you buy her out, your next merchant isn't till 10 hours later in Far Fields and after that it's another 6 hours later in Bellhart, half the map away. And that's not even counting how all the merchants you meet in between are selling a thousand dollars each worth of shit, including upgrade mats like mask shards. The more you want to try out the new mechanics, like all the new tools it wants you to use, the harder you're punished. Grind and grind some more.
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>>721126959
lol. You think you can explore late game areas early? Think again, bucko.
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>>721127046
I’m not actually sure. I assume the one in Memorium can’t be re-fought?
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Patch 2 soon
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/546746634645557243/
>- Fixed Cogflies incorrectly resetting their HP to full on scene change.
Damn, I was abusing that slightly
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>>721127140
>thoughts?
Why would I think about this shit?
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>>721127178
>the only ones that do are the fucking citadel enemies
...
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>>721125429
i did too, but i never got the cutscene. i landed on her spikes after i killed her and lost control
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>>721127049
(it's locked to all 3 of those things)
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>>721127258
Ah, yes, I understand, you are smooth brained.
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>>721124061
I'm getting filtered by this boss.
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>>721124237
I bet we'll get a trailer at the game awards.
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>>721124691
>>721126287
Cool when you realize that whole fight is inside that bigass bell and what you were hearing was a bunch of jabbering cultists.
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>>721127264
there's definitely a difference between act 1 money and act 2 money. act 2 money is lotsa money
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>>721127140
Me at the doctors getting the tapeworms pulled out of my ass: Getting a lot of abortion vibes from this...
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>>721127140
not wrong but I thought the witch woman inserted herself fully into hornet, only her discarded shell is left
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Just got the Sister of the Void ending.

Am I missing something? Do we not get the void out of Pharloom in the end?
Is the end of the story really just Lace crying?
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>>721127146
You misordered some things, the Weavers discovered they weren't divine, threw a fit and put GMS to sleep with silk music or something. They put together the Citadel and its religion to keep GMS asleep for eternity and live at the top of society until she started turning in her sleep and they all scattered.
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>>721126287

I love this boss
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People say yellows are bad, and while they aren’t the most useful things, I’d only say they’re bad if this was Hollow Knight 1. When you have yellow slots on every (?) crest, they’re now dedicated quality of life options. You’re not trading quality of life out for pure power anymore, you’re just getting quality of life.
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>>721124061
how do I plap this?
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>>721127187
So... there IS more than one place to buy necklaces. Good, I accept your concession.
In all seriousness, idk what your problem is anon, I literally did not have money issues in this game until you unlock a house where each piece of furniture is like 700, at which point I just killed the guards at the top of the citadel a few times (they drop like 30~60 roasries each).
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So why does this thing actually exists?
I know it makes aggressive unaware enemies notice you if you are close enough, but i don't see the point of using since you can just get a little closer for that. Also it uses a small amount of silk.
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>>721127367
you're an idiot
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>>721125607
Shaman + weavelight + volt charm lets you use buffed silk skills without ever using your nail. It's not the highest DPS but it's a safe playstyle, works well with the final silk skill and thread storm/rune rage hit like a truck
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>>721127367
The void was crawling up Grandma's silk strands to the surface. By the end she's dead so the surface returns to sort of normal and the void is back to being an angry goo lake at the bottom of the world.
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>>721127140
What the fuck is "absorbs the child into a crest" supposed to in abortion terms?
A scar?

Whole thing seems retarded.
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>>721127410
This reminds me, where the fuck is the "Lace's a nigger, look she's a nigger" comic?
/v/ has fallen
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>>721127425
The speedrun uses it to bait enemies into pogo range
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>>721127264
In appreciable amounts I mean. Sure, some red ants will give you like 8. And there's like five in that one hallway
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>>721127410
5 Vaginas
Maybe More
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>>721127140
This is making me hate this fanbase and giving me deltarune vibes, stop posting this trash
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>>721127140
this is yuri impregnation btw
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>>721127425
>dedicated garama/poshanka button
It's just cool.
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>>721127461
>where
>when
These questions are simple to answer... if you know where to look.
>>721127494
Imagine
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>>721127432
No you.

>>721127446
I see. But the ending still seems pretty inconclusive. A conversation between Lace and Hornet at least would have been something.
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>>721124061
>The First Sinner
what did she do
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>>721127140
>terminally online furry comments
Team Cherry are clearly leftoids, but In this case I don't think it's that deep. Australians don't have the same angst over abortion Americans do. There's no popular movement to ban it, and no popular movement to extend it until birth or any shit like that either.
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>>721127140
I remember when my neighbor got an abortion and absorbed a child into a crest, she was never the same...
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>>721127556
she sinned
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>>721127569
it was a shitty crest anyways
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>>721127140
>Injected with a foreign parasite that's actively trying to kill her and take over her mind
>The doctor was shunned not for moral issues, but because she's an unethical hackjob whose probably killed previous patients with her particularly gruesome procedures
>Instead of being removed, Hornet absorbs the parasites powers giving her parasitic leech abilities
>Hornet says that this interaction wasn't even that bad in hindsight
"This is literally abortion."
I don't get what drives these people to such retarded conclusions. I'd sooner believe this was the developer's poorly hidden fetish than a political statement.
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>>721124281
I just spammed harpoon at her lol
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>>721127551
The Title Screen tells a story
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>>721127425
It can be used to manipulate enemy AI in certain circumstances. After seeing how the speedrun abuses it, I kind of wonder if it would have utility for dealing with flying enemies that drift away from melee range and do fuck-all for 15 seconds between attack patterns.
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>>721127636
Ooooh. Thanks.
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>>721124061
Spiders don't have puss puss, you dumbasses.
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>>721127556
She said the n word
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>>721127425
You can also use it to summon the Bell Beast if you don't feel like hearing Hornet yell EIRA at 1.3x the rest of the game's volume.
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>>721127140
My thoughts are that leftoids are mentally ill to the point of being psychotically deranged, and it would be greatly beneficial for society if we went back to it being socially acceptable and even encouraged to shun and beat the shit out of them.
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So, from a game design perspective, what's the point of shards?
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>>721127556
Sinned
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>>721127374
>"Lets seal the god being in sleep surely nothing will go wrong"
>Things do in fact go wrong
>Majority of them end up in Hallownest
>Pale King is doing the exact same thing to another god being
How mad do you think they were
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>>721127424
I concede nothing. I said the only rosary machine in act 1 is in greymoor and I am right. My problem with you is that you're blatantly lying about the early game economy when you need over 4500 rosaries for the merchants in act 1, not even counting the benches and fast travel stations. Kill every enemy and find every rosary stash and you won't even have half that number. You want those memory lockets, mask shards, pouch upgrades, and tools? Put on your overalls and go back to the corn fields to farm. You denying this basic fact means you simply did not interact with these systems as intended.
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>some poor faggot backer paid at least $600 AUD to get his OC bug into HK
>now dude has to wait another ten years for Hollow Knight 3 to even see his whipping lad
Wonder how that aussie must feel now. With inflation going the way it is, the time-value of it would be enough to buy a whole new area, village and boss at that point.
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>>721127749
punish you by making you farm if you cheese everything with tools
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>>721127618
You have to understand, western women are obsessed with killing their babies. It is the most important issues for them whenever questioned. Abortion is constantly on top of their minds, probably only followed up by rape fantasies.
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>>721127749
Force you to mix regular combat with tool use so that you don't become entirely dependent on them. I think it worked out pretty well.
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>>721127801
Steel kingdom dlc will be the first dlc
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>>721127618
>>Injected with a foreign parasite that's actively trying to kill her and take over her mind
I think it's just trying to eat her. the way the parasite ending shows the parasite getting literally birthed out of grandmommy silk's ball abdomen alien-style really shows that the little shit just ate hornet and silk

also this is 200% a dev fetish
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>>721127146
The weavers/citadel were the ones injecting silk, not GMS, it just worked out in her favor in the end because it allowed her to do the haunting
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>>721125908
I liked the platforming on the way to the raging conchfly. Liked using the hunter crest's diagonal pogo to attack the little guys on the way as they were charging at me.
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>>721127874
The entirety of Skong feels like an eroge, where's that chinese/japanese review
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>>721127868

They seem like too big of a deal to be wasted on DLC alone
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>>721127863
Tools already have limited uses, though. As a limiting factor, I think shards only factor in for a player that's stuck on a particular segment of gameplay, like a boss or something.
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I legit don't understand anything about the weavers, did i not pay attention or was the game being vague as fuck?
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>>721127801
I think he needs to face the fact his OC bug is fucking lame. Nobody wants him, and the game would be worse for his inclusion.
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>bilewater runback
WTF were they thinking?
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>>721127749
Artificially throttle how often you can use tools. Someone at Team Cherry got very offended by how you can beat Pantheon of Hallownest in only 20 minutes by simply not getting hit and using your soul on Abyss Shriek, so they enforced a quasi-Soul Binding constraint on your Silksong gameplay.
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>>721127958
Welcome to the jungle motherfucker.
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>>721127938
No one will be alive to see a third game
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Yeah, fuck you
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>>721127551
Wait for the DLC
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>>721127841
It's just the site's thread battery, which also gives implications about Eva.
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>>721127749
Punishes you for being greedy with tools knowing they're tied to a limited resource. Rewards preparation from those who have bought shards bundles. Rewards exploration from those who have found shard bundles or beast shards. Rewards prudence from people who are patient enough to only use tools when they really need to.
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>>721127425
You get a damage boost for your first strike on an enraged enemy. Dunno if there's a cooldown on the damage boost.
You can also use it to challenge bosses right away if you otherwise have to speak to them first. Not many of those though.
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>>721126920
There are a couple of boulder traps where it's useful but if you anticipate them you'll be fast enough without it
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>>721128013
There's no way this shit is real. I also saw a picture of this guy with the down feather bug at the top of Mount Fay. You've made this guy up.
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What do I do with this thing? It won't shut up.
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>>721127749
Limiting your usage of tools so they become a secondary part of your moveset instead of your main way of dealing damage.
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>>721128086
Take him back to his mom in Shellwood :3
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>>721127841
It's like the generator that powers the Weavenests. Some nests it's already on some you turn it on and I can't remember if there's one that's just broken.
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>>721128086
Take it to the grey root
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>>721128086
Get pregnant
No, really.
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>>721128086
Abortion, I guess
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>get to karmelita
>get my shit kicked in a few times
>go back to fortnite
yeah fuck that
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With spiders you say?
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>>721126087
Thought he was full of shit but there's something up there, I don't think it's Widow though, looks more like the guards guarding the corridors to Cogwork Dancers, whatever they're called
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>>721128041
>Rewards prudence from people who are patient enough to only use tools when they really need to.
"When they really need to" in practice means "I'm sick of Unravelled Phase 3, take these tacks and die." Whoops there goes 200 fucking shards, fuck me for thinking I could actually use these as a consistent part of my arsenal. More like once per blue moon usage for when you truly hate a piece of content and want it to be over. What a complete waste of a system that takes up 50% of the game's content.
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>>721127789
I’m not a fan of the rosary economy in general but I also think it’s wrong to assume you’re “supposed” to buy every shop empty as you come across it. You’re supposed to pick one or two things you want most and come back later. You should be cleaning up shops at the end of Act 2.
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>>721128070
I saw the spot with mushrooms but I didn't see no npc
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>>721128013
Keep going up.
>>721128086
Take it to the bitch in the hut in the middle of Shellwood, then go to the bellhouse at the left of Greymoor.
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>>721125906
would round be best or worse
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>>721128013
did you follow him upwards? theres a missible memento and a shortcut up there
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Despite doing everything in this game guideless, bilewater finally made me look stuff up cause it's such bullshit.
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>>721127749
Padding gametime with shard farming
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>>721127778
The Weavers in Hallownest left before GMS woke up again
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>>721128218
You don't have to buy every shop empty to feel the sting because it's not like you're picking up every rosary in the game either. Spent more time grinding in Silksong than I spent grinding for Unbreakable charms in Hollow Knight and I really wasn't expecting that to be the case.
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>>721128203
>the chest fluff everyone thinks are tits
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>>721128209
That is ten billion percent widow, what are you even talking about?
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I think the game is pretty tough but nothing gating yet…
By that I mean I’ve lost to a few bosses 6-9 times but I still haven’t had to grind shards or whatever. I think the bosses are harder than the platforming which is pretty easy.
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>>721128234
Play the needolin
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>>721128209
nta but I can tell it's Widow because of the needlehead sticking out of her back.
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>>721128086
Become the catalyst to thousands of terrible DeviantArt fetish images
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>going to pick up the barbed bracelet in Sinner's Road
>make a minor detour to pick up some shiny in a cage on the first screen
>breaking the door to the cage causes all the roaches surrounding it to wake up from the noise
I love this game's attention to detail
>gets mauled by roaches
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>>721127801
Damn, I thought TC was free from backerslop now.
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>>721128086
Zootopia Abortion Comic
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>>721128209
It MIGHT not be Widow but it definitely is a Weaver who had her mask torn off and crippled with a pin to her back just like Widow.
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>someone spent days or even weeks developing this pile of shit boss
>someone actually allowed this trash to ship into the game
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>>721128210
Sounds like you weren't prudent enough, lmao
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>>721128086
Finally, a character I can identify with.
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Lace, or Shakra, for ms. Hornet
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>>721128418
They QAed it with tools :)
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>>721128336
I can't really remember what Widow looked like but you can see how it could be one of these guys sitting down right, you can see their violin weapon and it kind of makes sense that they'd be waiting for her to wake up
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>>721128418
*moves at you*
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>>721127947
spiderniggas with special spider silk powers. they got uplifted by spider mommy with daughter issues and then fucked off after sealing spider mommy because she was annoying. spider mommy is looking for spiderniggas to feed her special oc soul silk golem daughter through spidersilk milking

tl;dr jane silksong basically adopted a nepo baby and she needs to feed her silk as reparations for ruining the nepo baby's town.
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>>721128441
Neither, Kratt
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>>721128441
All belong to the Knights harem.
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>>721128418
This is one of the easiest boss, get good
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>>721128418
>"Spam tools, retard": The Boss
Spam tools, retard.
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I finally did it. Easily the hardest boss in the game.
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>>721128418
This boss was really fucking annoying and thank god for the thumbtacks to speed this tedious fucking slog. I am seriously tired of this gauntlet/mob spawning boss design this game loves.
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>>721128418
>OW FUCK YOU KIDS QUIT LEAVING YOUR TOYS ON THE FLOOR
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>>721128519
No one said it was hard, dumbass.
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>>721128418
>someone (me) spammed him to death first try with wanderer's crest nail attacks
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>>721127801
I dunno, I like how this guy looks.
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>>721128419
It's true, the tool cost is way out of whack. Using just one tool is gonna set you back like 150 shards, in comparison to how many shards the enemies drop it may as well be 1500 shards. Blow a tool or two to get through an arena fight, since their intended use is crowd control, and you'll only just barely have recovered your losses when the next arena hits. Hoarding and skimping. The system works like you reserving your 25 killstreak nuke for when there's only 30 seconds left in the game when it's useless and the outcome is already decided.
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>>721128519
>>721128546
I beat him second try, doesn't change the fact he's mechanically a lame, boring fight.
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>>721128210
I used tools all game long to help with exploration and to soften up/finish up bosses and shards were never an issue, even had a few extra bundles I never used.

I don't know how people run out of shards, literally all you need to do is to notice you are running out of them and hold back with your tool usage for a while(not even stop using them, just use them less), and this is just if you are a hoarder who refuses to use/buy shard bundles.
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>>721128262
>explore before completing blasted steps because I want to know what's out there before going into the citadel
>navigate pisswater blind because I don't have double jump and can't reach Shakra
>stumble my way into Phantom
>enter the citadel through the backdoor by mistake
Kinda blew my mind
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>>721128578
I guess that makes more sense, sorry I'm more familiar with the enemies I farmed to death rather than the boss I saw once
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The Radiance really does utterly shit on Grand Mother Silk, doesn't she? Like it's not even a contest. GMS dies like a bitch in the normal ending of the game. If you want to kill Radiance in her "normal ending", it's a hell of a fight that culminates in needing the Void to finally defeat her. GMS can die to some pins soaked in plant poison.
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this game is everything wrong with shit in souls games and amped up x5 and everyone eats it the fuck up because its a cheap indie game lmao
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>>721128441
Sherma
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>>721128441
Sherma, unironically. If she has problems with her lifespan, then she needs to start as early as possible, and he's already in a position of authority and maturity. She can be the new protector of the land as it rebuilds under his guidance.
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I'm gonna wait for mossbag y'all know nothing about the lore
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>>721128693
>If you want to kill Radiance in her "normal ending",
The normal ending is just beating the hollow knight, dumdum. Radiance is the equivalent of the Act 3 final boss .
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Should I bind Eva? Does refusing lead to a secret happy ending where she becomes my AI gf?
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>>721128693
The comparison to the Radiance is Lost Lace. GMS is the Hollow Knight.
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>>721128693
Radiance is a jobber who dies to a few spells, they are about the same.

What is true is that the HK finale is super kino while Silksong suddenly ends and you feel nothing about it.
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>>721128754
>>721128730
Was Sherma male?
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>>721128693
Part of the reason GMS is so easy is because she's testing Hornet to see if she's a worthy successor.
She wants to die because none of her children loved her.
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>>721128839
Explicitly, yes.
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>>721128639
You're not meant to abuse tools. They're a resource you need to manage, it's part of the game difficulty. I literally don't know what you're doing wrong because I've only been in a severe shard deficit once and it was because I didn't want to waste my bundles. I did the next few areas using non-shard using crests/red charms like the Rosary Cannon and the Flea Juice and I was back up to a comfortable 500 or so by the next time I needed them. Are you literally going right up to bosses and dumping everything right in their face, then immediately dying because you have no idea what they're going to do next? Use your fucking needle you dolt.
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>>721127140
I think it's obvious the dude got a boner when going through this and is tyring to cope how that made him feel by trying to make it seem deeper than it is
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>>721128807
There's no benefit for refusing
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>>721128921
I guess I just easily confuse the French for females.
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>>721128665
>I don't know how people run out of shards, literally all you need to do is to notice you are running out of them and hold back with your tool usage for a while
Because that threshold is unsatisfyingly short. A single wheel of Sting Shard costs over 100 shards, and that's going to be just one wave of one arena. They barely have a presence in your gameplay when used "as intended," and to make them more than that means a gay amount of grinding. So the system is lame and underwhelming.
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>>721128924
NTA but I almost used little to no tools on my playthru because I spent 99% of my shards on boss tries which lead to my ass being poor which lead to me using my nail for almost all of exploration, at least until I got cogflies
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>>721128665
why is anything you just said fun
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>>721128786
>>721128819
I meant in terms of the "lore", obviously. They're both supposedly higher beings but GMS is such a cakewalk.
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>>721128086
Get him a comfy place to live
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>>721128262
Bilewater is literally designed to funnel you in the right direction. The only place you can go without double jump is to the bellway and The Mist beyond.
Are you autistically fixated on completing an area the first time you see it?
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>You can get poisoned by Lifeblood if you use it too much.
>Lifeblood reanimates corpses.
>This guy.
So is the Knight being Void why he can use this stuff with no issues?
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>>721129070
Idk, I don't imagine hornets womb would be a comfy place to be.
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>>721128924
How are you saying I'm "abusing" tools when I'm pointing out how expensive there are on a per-use basis. Use a wheel of Boomerang to wipe one phase of one boss and you're down almost 200 shards. What even counts as "not" abusing them then? Just literally never fucking using them? By the time I killed Lost Lace I basically stopped using tools altogether because by the time I was confident I could not die to the boss's last phase and win the fight with tool spam, I could just do it nail-only. This whole mechanic only barely existed in my mind, I literally only remembered it was there when I got jumped by a void arena. It's a gigantic downgrade to how your magic worked in the first game.
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I'm still fucking perplexed that I managed to miss an optional fight with Shakra in Act 2 after fulfilling her wish, along with her entry in the hunter's journal.
All those wasted hours for a fucking fake 100% completion rate save file.
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>>721129154
Yeah, he's also the child of 2 higher beings instead of just one.
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>>721128639
The shards you get from enemies are just there to let you top up if you want to use a few to deal with assholes. You get big shard bundles for exploring, and a major milestone to search for while exploring is either a shop that sells shard bundles, or the area's bellway that can take you to a shop. If you don't have enough rosaries then that's your fault for either being bad or blowing your rosaries on less relevant stuff.
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>>721129154
Could be that he's the child of two higher beings. Honet has only partial immunity since she has only one god-parent
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>>721129154
is he okay
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Is Team Cherry serious about running all the way from the fucking bellway station to Groal as a boss runback? Are Australians retarded?
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>>721129303
Yea, he's just lifeblood maxing, he'll be right as rain in a few days.
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>>721129267
Hornet's version is better though cause she can get regeneration that's stronger than Joni + Hiveblood.
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>>721128693
GMS is far from her prime. She was betrayed and harvested for millennia. A memory fight of prime Silk would be ludo
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>>721129318
There is a hidden bench closer to the arena
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>>721129154
why the hell is lifeblood evil infection shit when in HK it was all cool blue flapping flowers and a cool guy resting dead in a shrine?
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>>721129318
Use the bench halfway there if you hate it so much.
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>>721129318
Assuming this is not bait being repeated for the billionth time, there is another bench 3/4 of the way there.
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>>721129263
I don't want to waste money on yet more trivia when I'm already saving for actual upgrades I want to buy. Stop making me pay literal taxes on fun.
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>>721129203
They'll add it back in for people on Act 3 because they have to for the Godhome equivalent but of course you still wouldn't have beaten the game because you'd have all the Act 3 bonuses when you fought her
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I just remembered to ask. What happened to the huntress? She's just gone in act 3, I saw people posting screenshots showing a new npc if you don't complete her quest, but does she really just disappear if you do complete it?
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>>721129373
You shouldn't have doubted the pale king. It was banned for a reason
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>>721129047
Hornet is also a crossbreed between a higher being and a Weaver. In terms of raw power she could probably take Radiance easier than the Knight, especially with all her Silksong abilities, but she couldn't for lore reasons because of what the Radiance is because it would just haunt her dreams until she became possessed.
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>hit boss
>It does the defeat slowdown thing and vanishes
>10 seconds of nothing
>boss comes back and roars for phase 7
Stop doing this.
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>>721129384
>>721129390
What bench? It's a fucking trap.
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>>721128546
i was entirely out of shards so beat it without tools
it is really simple in the end.
he can't do shit if you pogo him so that's a really big and easy safespot for when you don't have an opening to attack. if you hit it just right you can still damage it while pogoing during those ranged attacks that always seem to hit the same spots but in random order
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It's called plasmium you dips
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(100% spoilers)

so apparently the mementos are not needed for 100%? is there a point to them besides just going full completionist for one's own sake?
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>>721129373
The dead guy was branded heretic for playing with lifeblood
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>>721129370
act 4 kino prediction
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>>721129318
I did the full runback, and it built character
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>>721129451
>he doesn't know
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>>721129401
Yeah would have been nice to get confirmation that she lived but I choose to believe that since we do get confirmation that she definitely died if we don't do the quest in time she must live in the other version.
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>>721129161
I bet it would be snug and silky soft.
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>>721129161
I still can't believe those mad bastards sat down and decided to put that shit in the game.
Australians truly don't give a fuck
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I hope the DLC adds an Act 4 where Pharloom is repaired because going back to the settlements is depressing. My bro Pavo is all sad
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>>721129450
that happens like twice.
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>>721129451
listen mate, just google the hidden bench on bellwater and start using a map.
No point in dealing with this retarded bullshit
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>>721129447
If she's so good why does The Knight beat the absolute piss out of her two times
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>>721129401
>but does she really just disappear if you do complete it?
Yes. She talked about wanting to survive so she could see her spawn's first hunt, so she's taking them out hunting. You can't find her, but that's the reason.
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>>721129494
what
>he
is doing, is baiting
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>>721128861
I felt pretty bad for GMS. You teach all your spider daughters silk magic, but then they betray you and make some elaborate torture culture designed to keep you perpetually asleep with song. So you dream of some new silk daughters which manifest themselves, but then your favorite also ends up betraying you and lops your arm off after you wake up.
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>>721129464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7mHxdHlRY
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>>721129538
Just testing him. She's not going to seriously put her life on the line for a ghost, but she also knows it's the only thing that can legitimately stop the Radiance at the source.
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>>721129451
upper right area. you probably missed it because it requires you to swim in the asswater and why would you intentionally swim in the asswater without knowing there's a bench there?
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>>721124061
Spider In My Room (I'm Tryna F*ck It)
https://youtu.be/6NkPxasbhhg?si=oNWwRmvapHjCPL7B
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>Godmaster adds two new endings that are worse than the original ending in exchange of adding sequelbait
>none of the sequelbait plot threads get expanded upon
but why?
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>>721129529
Act 4 just being you wandering around fixing Pharloom before choosing whether to stay or leave would be kino and I need it.
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>>721126287
Drill makes this boss ez
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>>721129529
And my Bellhome is less comfy because of the music change.
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Act 4 Hallownest
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>>721129373
perhaps blue infection was taboo for a reason
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>>721129474
>lifeblood is contained in a bunker deep in the fucking abyss surrounded by void shit
>more lifeblood on the fucking entrance of the town, unrestrained
I don't like this
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If you don't attack him he just walks back and forth too.
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>>721129618
The true ending of Silksong hinges on one of the Godmaster endings as a major plot point.
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>>721129203
>Missable things in a 60 hour game
Why would they do this? Also thank you for telling me I was about to start Act 3, hopefully I can still get the Shakra fight.
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Just beat savage beastfly 2 electric boogaloo, third try, why were people complaining about this? Just wear the lava bell retard
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>>721129618
But it is expanded upon. The knight saves Hornet.
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>>721129584
>You teach all your spider daughters silk magic, but then they betray you and make some elaborate torture culture designed to keep you perpetually asleep with song
where is this lore coming from?
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>>721129618
Godmaster ending is the real one, but TC doesn't want people who only got the original true end to feel lost so they don't directly contradict it. But they do include shit that really only makes sense following from Godmaster like the white flower being anti-void and the quick flash of the Shade Lord.
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>>721129732
Nah. Dream no more works as well
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Has there been any attempts to mod the knight into silksong and hornet back into first game
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>>721129538
demigod vs full blown god powered by void
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>>721129607
Fuck me, I'll have to double check.
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>>721129618
Alternate scenario:
>devs put in alt endings as a reward for doing the dlc, with no other motives
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>>721129736
What, you needed that?
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>>721124862
You’re panicking a lot through her attacks. Rather than trying to spam attacks. Try to focus on dodging attacks and getting 1 (one) hit in.
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>pollip pouch in flea brew and plasmium phial
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>>721129752
You see the Knight transform into Void Given Focus for a split second. It's over, anon. If you didn't get Embrace the Void your playthrough isn't canon.
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>>721129735
I like it when I can miss stuff even in 100% run. That means next playtrough might and one after can still surprise me
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Is Hollow Knight 1 as good as Silksong?
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>>721129451
go for a swim
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>>721124281
I still don't know how to do the final stage, I just spammed the tacks and hit her ONLY when she'd finished doing 3 separate moves in a row since she seems to take a short break then.

>>721124441
Hardest by far for me, LL wasn't even close.
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I just beat the silk mother
any hints as to where to go?
it seems everywhere I go i'm locked because I don't have a double jump yet
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>>721129781
Probably not, but why wouldn't I?
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>>721129865
Yeah
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>>721129865
yeah. though just a hair uglier.
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>>721129865
It's a good game, but the knight controls quite differently from Hornet.
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Lost Lace is quite possibly one of the best bosses and fights in the game
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>>721129889
Go left from the slab.
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>>721129749
From the Rune Harp's and various needolin lore's.
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>>721129865
Yes but it is substantially easier other than DLC meme content, which may affect your enjoyment level
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>>721129834
>You see the Knight transform into Void Given Focus for a split second
Because they want it to be ambiguous enough to follow both endings. If they just showed void given form then people would say only Dream No More could be canon, on the other hand if they only showed the shade lord people would say Embrace the Void must be canon. This is an approach so that it's understandable by players who followed either
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This fight was absolute kino
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>>721129889
>he did all the act 2 shit without double jump
Kek, do yourself a favor and go to the icoe mountain
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>>721129865
Action is a lot worse but exploration and world are both top notch.
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>>721129929
All the Lace fights are smooth
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>>721129865
Silksong feels like if Alexus from the Helldivers 2 dev team made a Hollow Knight remaster.
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>>721129865
Gameplay is worse, everything else is roughly on par (up to the end of act 2, idk about 3 yet)
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What leads a person to search the locations of Mister Mushroom online then open the and travel to aforementioned locations just to see a handful of dialogue lines?
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Desuu everyone should make getting double jump asap in act 2 and then exploring the map.
Unless you are planning on quitting after the final boss of ACT2 then you are better off doing all the chores you need to do to unlock act 3 first
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>>721128086
Get pregged.
https://x.com/aotter239900/status/1968016242230575389
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>>721129889
Get the double jump, move the fleas to their third location, and do wishes until the guy at Songclave give you a wish.
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>>721129973
I thought it was too easy. Or at least there was no bullshit moves i guess
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>"MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! HORNET KEEPS USING TOOOOOLLLS"
>"Hornet, no tools sweetie""
>"We are in the middle of the Abyss? Why would I c-"
>Both Silk and Lace scream autistically
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>>721124862
You jump too much, nigga. Chill out
You can also just break the blades with your needle
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>>721129929
just redid it after getting 100% so that i could get the achievement, fucking awesome fight. now that i'm better at it i even wish it was longer.
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>>721130004
The clues you get in Silksong for the Mr. Mushroom shit are pretty reasonable. The guy was a motherfucker to track down in HK but they made him way easier this time.
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>>721129661
What would that be like?
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>>721130004
I like reading the lore but don't like having to think
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>>721129945
I thought Rune Harp was about Eva.
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Wait, so we are actually getting Lace's game?
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>>721129973
is her head what hornet's would be without a shell?
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>>721127749
most rpgs outside of recent history didn't automatically refill your stock of health items at checkpoints - you have to buy/find them manually, and if you use rare ones like megalixirs they wo't be around for later
shards are that system as applied to offense and not healing. it also has the estus system where there's limited charges per segment of gameplay, sure, but i don't see anything wrong with both banning you from bruteforcing a boss without learning its mechanics by just spaming every megalixir in the game while still making using a megalixir something that actually hurts
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>>721125603
I was so unbelievably mad when I came back here and the fat guy had become evil, I thought Sherma was dead until I found her in the hotsprings
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>>721130138
>her
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>>721124237
I’m just chipping away at my 100% steel soul speedrun play through at this point.
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>>721130112
Where is this from? Also it can continue in a DLC
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>>721130135
In an RPG if you use a megalixir and die anyway, you reload the checkpoint before the boss and have the megalixir back.
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>>721129889
If the guy in Songclave already waved you down to tell you you've been helping a lot of people, then you've already done enough wishes to unlock his quest. At that point, all you need to do is get the double jump and move the fleas, since you already fought Lace again.
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>>721130112
the next game will be a slice of life, life is strange style game featuring hornet and lace being roommates, and it's up to the player to make the relationship work, and there will be a mandatory 2 hour long wedding segment and 12 hour honeymoon sex minigame as well
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>>721130120
No? Her head and body is what Lace would look like if she started running out of silk to sustain herself. That's why Phantom looks so faded and unraveled.
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>>721129618
Doesn't Silksong's true ending pretty much confirm HK's dlc endings are the only potential canon ones?
Next game is about the now free Hollow Knight as the protagonist
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>went back and spent 40 minutes on Last Judge
>back in the Citadel
Now where do I go?
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>>721130241
but look at the shape of it
it's a hornet shaped head
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>>721130221
>you play as Lace
>instead of Benches, to heal you have to run back to Hornet to give you silk
>It's a cunnilingus minigame.
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who
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>>721130186
Super secret ending that explains the entire plot down to every minute detail
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>>721124061
Bros dont even have bones to snap
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>>721130186
Passing of the age, mushroom ending
>>721130221
I'm ok with this but only if they are very good friends (like homura and madoka) and the actual love interest is the knight, while the hollow knight gives him love/relationship advice as his senior
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>>721130304
may as well let us play the game for you
open parsec
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>>721130108
The one is, yeah, which I think also hints that Eva was the first silk being like Lace. The other two are about the weavers who fled, and the weavers who stayed to finish the prison and pass the burden onto the pilgrim bugs. Their silk skill tombs also have some lore about it.
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>>721129360
Better doesn't mean good when it comes to what seems to be something related to a Higher Being infecting you
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>>721130135
Pretty sure there's famously a trope of players not using their megalixers precisely because they're limited.
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>>721130336
i love surface bugs so much
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>>721130198
...honestly this is fair. i guess the only retort is if they refunded shards on death they'd probably want to be more stingy with shards, meaning using them on exploration would hurt a lot more, which would be boring
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>>721129973
Phantom was okay but the fight felt like it was lacking something to really make it stand out
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>>721130405
So if Granny Silk was just sleeping imprisoned in Pharloom the whole time, why do we have to kill her to get out of the city?
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>>721130309
Masks don't necessarily have to match the head shape. She could just be storing silk in the horns and have a round head.
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Is there any reward after beating a couple of times Shakra aside of her data hunter
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>WOOF!
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>>721125876
you can come in and out as much as you want after the first time
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>>721124695
Peaked here, her fight moggs Lace
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>>721130112
lace x zote game
that, or nuu & bath flea roadtrip
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>>721129495
>>721129539
What if she ate them instead?
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>>721130324
>Hornet refuses to heal you unless you've been nice to the other NPCs you find
>You can also get silk by crying and begging her for it
>It's still a cunnilingus minigame
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>>721130541
HUGE woof
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>>721130495
Hornet wanted to know why she was tracked down in the first place, even in the default ending you can assume she guesses (correctly) that Silk won't stop looking for her so there's no reason to leave until she's gone
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>>721130495
We don't need to. Hornet wanted to get to the top to see why they even tried kidnapping her, and after that she felt sorry for the people living here and wanted to help them. If you try to leave through the Blasted Steps, she basically says "I don't really wanna leave yet".
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>>721130112
>>721130336
Didn't this also happen in the original HK before any content update if you completed the mushroom quest?
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>>721130565
Lace is clearly meant to stay single and become a cat lady
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>>721130495
Because Hornets pissed off at her turning everyone into mindless zombies (like what the Radiance did)
She sees whats happening, has learned that sitting around being depressed isn't a solution, and wants to stop Pharloom from turning into Hollownest 2.0
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>>721130616
Why is granny looking for hornet if she's deep asleep and in jail?
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>>721130647
I never did this ending in the original game and I still have to finish the last Pantheon...
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>>721130681
Granny wasn't looking for her, it was the CItadel guys, they needed more silk because granny was waking up.
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>>721130647
Yes I believe so but I never did it because they didn't spell it out where he'd be like in this one

>>721130681
Cause she can still sense the outside world through her Silk connection I think, I guess if the Weavers put her into it then a Weaver (even a half-breed) is probably her best way of getting out
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>>721130526
Help
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>>721129974
isn't there an upgrade for taking less damage from the ice or something?

>>721130029
but where do I get it?

>>721130209
I think I've cleared everything from songclave?
dialogue changed after beating the boss
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>>721130559
>dem hips on both she and lace
silk milf sure knows how to build them
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>>721130680
But how is Silk turning everyone into zombies if she's a prisoner? I don't get it. I thought she was in charge of the place. She's clearly throwing her silk around all over the place. Is her puppeting all the bugs around like marionettes just what she does while sleeping?
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How did all of the nonstandard bugs achieve sentience?
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>>721130681
She's in the process of waking up and exerting more influence as she does. She doesn't need to give orders to goons directly they can just kinda sense her will.
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>>721130681
Because she needs Weavers or Weaver descendants to produce additional Silk for her.
Idk if she has control over Silk (but can't make it) or she just needs more Silk than what she herself can produce, but that is at least one reason.
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>>721130807
>isn't there an upgrade for taking less damage from the ice or something?
Yeah, the double jump, which you get after finishing the ice area.
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Is it a bad sign I spent the first 12 hours of playing Hollow Knight not knowing I could attack up or down and only ever finding it out by watching Youtube videos?
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So first sinner is the first weaver? Does that make hornet her descendant?
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>>721130079
>You can also just break the blades with your needle
WAHT
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>>721127038
She already lost her kingdom to GMILF Silk and was miserable in her current state, it was pretty much a mercy kill.
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>>721130681
>deep asleep
She can interact with the world around her in a subconscious state, and was also in the middle of waking up.
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>>721130807
>upgrade for ice
Yes, but guess where it is. :^)
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>>721130841
It's heavily implied that masks have a role in this.
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>>721130915
Not necessarily, probably just the first one to stand against Silk or probably the first one they caught
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>>721130965
Why is her waking up a bad thing?
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>>721130890
Apparently if you use the flint tool to light your needle on fire, it wards the cold until it wears off.
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>>721130829
The native bugs already generate small amounts of silk, thanks to the Whitewards experiments on their ancestors. She's controlling them via the silk already in their shells, and shes just sort of passively projecting her will, I guess.
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I am so fucking glad I encountered Last Judge after getting the double jump. This would be a really annoying fight if the runback took more than 10 seconds.
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>>721131003
I think the memory you see after defeating her is her elevation through the power of Silk, I'm pretty sure she's the first weaver.
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>>721131009
She wasn't a good person before she was forcibly put to sleep, she's not likely to be any better once she wakes up
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>>721130893
>didn't know you could attack down
That's normal
>didn't know you could attack up
Wat?
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>>721130915
But Binding her gives a vision of GMS "ascending" their race from the little shitty spider dudes? Or is it just supposed to be some random Weaver being created?
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>>721129929
My only problem with the fight is sometimes I can't see shit clearly
>Lost Lace is black
>most of her attacks are void themed, so black
>void projectiles are black
>the area is mostly dark
it's worse especially in phase 2 when she started spamming that void tendril tower things and bullets
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>>721131080
What did she do when awake? I thought virtually all of Pharloom's modern structure was made by the weavers after putting her to sleep?
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>>721131052
Go get the Sands of Karak bench and make it even faster.
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>>721131009
Hornet mentions that it's in her base nature as a Weaver to seek dominance toward others, despite not wanting to be a ruler or tyrant. GMS is kind of an overbearing shithead, tyrant, and a pretty bad parent as well, with that dominant nature being cranked up to 11.
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>>721131071
Well she could be but I don't think she was specifically imprisoned because of that, to be fair I took that cutscene to just be a way of showing the Weavers as a whole being uplifted not specifically her but who knows with this shit
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>>721131108
I don't see why it would be some random weaver and not first sinner's own memory.
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WHY didn't the Weaver bitch from Hollow Knight make a return? She made cute noises when running away from you.
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>>721131123
anon they have outlines
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>>721130829
based on what the caretaker says, pretty much every bug in pharloom has silk in their bodies since they inherited it from their parents. that means that almost everyone is connected to gms in a way and could potentially be controlled.
the haunting seems to be a (relatively) recent thing but presumably caused by that silk in everyone's bodies making them go a bit fucky
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>>721131140
She brainwashed the spiders into thinking they are her children or something.
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>>721130448
Hollow Knight 3 will take place on the surface
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>>721130915
No. She was just the first Weaver to find out the truth behind the origin of the Weavers, and was locked away forever for trying to spread the truth about their relation to GMS.
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did silk and her cronies drain the water from the coral forest to turn it into the blasted steps/sands of kharak
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Review:
>Game is balanced like ass
It's not good that many act 1 bosses are harder than silkmother lol
>Bad economy
Shards make no sense. They should remove them and put less charges for tools if they don't want people spamming them. Rosaries are too few. It would all be fixed if room gauntlets left you beads but they give you nothing< which leads me to:
>Rewards suck
There is nothing to get. You kill a boss you get nothing. You kill a room, you get nothing. You get to a secret room you get 20 shitty beads.
One of the biggest rewards is a silk heart which gives you... 1 silk bar at a bench lmao.
>Double damage
I'm fine with strong attacks getting double damage, I'm not fine with shitty attacks and non big enemies dealing 2 damage even on contact damage. Its retarded and it's artificial difficulty. Its like playing original hollow knight with the god master impediments.
>Charm system sucks
Tools are cool I guess but resource management is retarded, they cost too much shards and you can use them too many times so they can be abused.
There is no reason to not use the dices or the poisson, too many garbage charms
>Lace sucks
As lore. I don't know who is this bitch but apparently I'm supposed to care for her. A downgrade with the antagonists in hollow knight
>Backtracking
It sucks. Nothing would be lost with more benches. I already do the backtracking hitless, don't make me waste time and let me fight the fucking boss.

Hunter Pogo is fine I guess, hitbox is a bit retarded but you get used to it and it ends up feeling nice.
>Movement costing silk is retarded
Harpoon, super jump and many skills use silk which is retarded because healing takes much silk and unless you go no hit autist mode you can't use them, in which at that point you don't really need them. Healing system is retarded too, 3 heals as base is stupid.
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>>721131226
Who made the weavers if not her? You see in the First Sinner cutscene her ascending the weavers out of random bugs.
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>>721131235
Oh, this actually makes some sense.
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>>721130893
Yes. That's actually crazy.
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>>721131016
seems obvious to try but doesn't work
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>>721130829
The citadel implanted silk into everyone not realizing that it would allow them to be puppeted by silk
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>>721131267
Cool bosses: Karmelita (number 1), cogwork dancers, silkmother (too easy), lace, widow, first sinner, 4 chorus (easy but good as an introductory boss), last judge (obviously), phantom
Bosses that suck: the fly, Groal, basically everything that uses cheap double damage for everything as an excuse for a challenge.

Overview: hollow knight was better, this game suffers from many dark souls II/Elden ring cheap tricks bullshit, if you remove that it's almost a perfect game.
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>>721131235
Alright, I'll take this interpretation.
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>>721131278
Ascended, but not "made". They threw a hissy fit or something. It's kind of just a bunch of elitists being petty, and getting revenge in overexaggerating ways that trample over normal bugs.
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>>721131251
I'm pretty sure an NPC mentions that the place had fallen to ruin long before Pharloom was founded.
Its basically the ruins of a prehistoric ocean society.
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>>721131192
Maybe meant to be the big reveal that the Weaver's wouldn't be shit without Silk, your idea is just as plausible though, I just think it's a bit too obvious that the first Weaver she uplifted also happens to be the one she imprisons first
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>>721131251
Yes. They also dumped exhaust fumes and shitty shit into the pale waterways to the east and turned it into Bilewater.
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>>721131021
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>>721131385
All of this is making me think that the Pale King was right about weavers (fuck spiders) and that we just beat the shit out of a dementia old lady for basically no reason.
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>>721131171
Isn't it the wyrm side of her doing that?
Wyrms pull bugs into their thrall, etc etc
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>>721126983
pregnancy update
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>>721130829
It's not really clear why they were capturing weavers like Hornet, or what they needed them for. The only lore for it is this, which is found in the Cradle with the other cages:
>...Eternal...
>That we may pray...
>Holy Silk...
>That we may sing...
>Highest... holy...
>That we may bow...
>Your will... your bounty...
>Your gift... divine...
>Spun... Served... Sacrificed...
>By your grace...
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>>721131278
You know what, know that I'm thinking about it, some of the spider enemies in Deepnest clearly are some form of life form originating from the little spider fucks in Pharloom, they even have the same spastic slashing attacks and similar body types.
So the Weavers descendants are just slowly reverting to what they were before they were ascended as a species.
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>>721131547
meant for >>721130495
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>you have to double jump before drifting
fuck this is dumb, why would they design it like this?
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>>721131486
nah. there are a few lines about weavers wanting to dominate (i think probably maskmaker and caretaker?) and also obviously being worshiped by a religion
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I'm trying to do the cursed ending and the constant off screen blades starting in the second phase are pissing me off.
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>>721131486
Hronet says it's the Weaver in her. She could be wrong.
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>>721131486
It's likely the nature of all divine beings to seek some kind of dominance over lesser beings, but when comparing the Pale King to GMS I'd say he seems like far less of a tyrant than her.
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>>721131456
I remember at the beginning of the game some bug saying that the pilgrims were born with silk inside them and that's why they're compelled to go up to the citadel. So the haunting was going to keep happening forever if she was kept alive
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>>721131631
Jump claw double jump has higher ascend then double jump claw.
Jump float dash float claw has longer horizontal than jump dash float claw.
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>>721131052
How in the fuck is that even possible
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>>721126915
not really. bosses got like 4 moves on average
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>>721131251
My take is that since Karak is higher up than the rest of Pharloom its safe to assume the whole kingdom was fully underwater at one point. They're probably even older than the void worshipper guys.
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>>721131839
By going the other way through sinner's road and the mist to reach act 2
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>>721131839
NTA, but you can go around the Last Judge by beating Phantom instead and going through that path I believe.

Genuinely not sure which I'd consider easier though. At least Phantom's run back is easier I suppose.
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>>721131349
Too many bosses are only hard because it's the equivalent of fighting a bus, like unraveled.
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>>721131976
>>721131994
I did that too. But i still walked over there to see what was going on. The big gaping part of the map didnt clue him in?
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>>721131658
I knew I just had to come on here and complain and I'd get it.
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>>721130097
How do i start his questline? I didn't find anything mushroom related
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>>721130298
>Doesn't Silksong's true ending pretty much confirm HK's dlc endings are the only potential canon ones?
No since Hornet basically says she not only personally saw the ghost sacrifice himself but also says she has personally helped kill gods
That doesn't track with the godhome shit since Hornet does fuck all in that ending
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>>721129732
At most it is referenced. There is a split second reference compared to all the other stuff for the other ending like Hornet seeing Lace as someone who she feels responsibility for since the knight was right in front of her but she couldn't help him, etc.
Silksong Hornet doesn't make sense if the godhome ending happens because frankly she does fuck all in that ending and wouldn't be as invested in Lace then
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>>721129774
Yeah, I figured they were bonus stuff since obviously Godmaster has absolutely nothing to do with the main plot
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>>721132337
Secret room near the Flea caravan in Putrified Ducts. You need silk soar to access the area
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I only now realize i could use the double healing tool for exploration and platforming, as the extra casting time is obviously a non-issue outside of bossfights.
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>the up air lost lace attack
im getting fucking tired guys, what input is it fucking reading for this shit
>she teleports where your going to land after dodging her AOE spam
IM FUCKING TIRED MAN
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>You "fix" the void infestation in the end
>Can't even see the settlements again
I think the devs got depressed when finishing the game because wtf is this shit?? Everything about Act III is so danm sad, and you're not even sure if your actions bore any fruit in the end.
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>>721132964
Hopefully Act 4 is about rebuilding the place while all the boss fights and challenges are festive in nature. You can even include date-fights with Lace.
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>>721132964
This.
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>>721131140
I'm going to guess she was mostly a huge bitch to her "daughters" and to most surrounding kingdoms
We might see hints of it in her relationship with Lace and Phantom, with Phantom being banished to play the Organ until she eventually wastes away due to being an inferior creation to Lace, who seemingly is mommy's favorite
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>>721131764
>wake up from being trapped by your beloved daughters
>they've made a shithole of the land
>punish your ungrateful daughters
>make new better daughter, made of silk
>made a new even better daughter, the old one can go play an organ or some shit
>pilgrims keep trying to enter the citadel, seal it off, fuck off we're full
>little retards keep trying to make their pilgrimage and die by the droves
>whatever
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>>721132964
yeah it's lame how you can't see things like a brief scene of the songclave people seeing the void tendrils leaving and stuff, but also there are plenty of scenes in the existing cutscenes where the void tendrils that are going up into the surface start disappearing, so it's a fact that hornet saved pharloom.
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So.. whenever you're being targetted by a continuous attack and you deflect one of it's hits, your attack speed increases in such a way that you can deflect every hit or frame from it? Why tf didn't they informed us about this?
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>>721133517
They should've done like OoT and see the world restored during the credits.
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>>721133605
i dont know what crest youre using because I can't continuously parry/deflect attacks. I soak one then the other hits rape me.
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>>721125908
go fuck yourself
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>>721133658
absolutely. i think hollow knight missed this too but at least you could kinda see some more obvious closure with the knight's shell being broken, the infection's orange disappearing, and the siblings going back to sleep. i also wonder what lace is supposed to do now.

maybe if they feel like it they'll add an extra scene if people mention it enough... maybe...
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I am not enjoying Flea Juggle.
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>>721133954
when i learned that the direction you hit fleas from actually matters i started getting much much better since i started juggling fleas into the same direction so that i didn't have to go dashing like a retard from side to side constantly.
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>>721133712
I discovered this today while playing with Wanderer and thought it was the only that crest that can do it. But i saw a video just now and the guy seems to be doing it with Hunter
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOxvwZSDgGr/?igsh=MTh1Zjd0ZHhza2Jqdg==



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