How did crossdressing become a trope in JRPG's?
"Haha man in girl clothes funny"
>>721688972it was a trope in Kabuki
>>721689031>"Haha man in girl clothes funny"everything that makes fun of troons is funny ngl
>>721688972Ever watch Monty Python?
>>721689143I only watched Fawlty Towers.
>>721688972It's a joke, and not even just a Japanese thing, Bugs Bunny has been doing it for years
>>721688972>>721689031>>721689089>>721689116>>721689143>>721689305It's a sexual thing in most of the instances shown.It's explicitly done because there's appeal in some level of the people buying these games (predominately women). The sole exception of these is probably Purse Owner 4, and that's more because the female audience of that franchise is a collective delusion on the part of desperate loners.
>>721689439>It's explicitly done because there's appeal in some level of the people buying these games (predominately women)are women really fond of femboys though? their type is usually Chad the asshole, and that archetype is the manly man
>>721688972Who are the two shotas in that image?
>>721689551japanese women like their chads to look like femboys. They still won't to be choked by them, yes.
>>721689551>are women really fond of femboys though?Men are, and men are still the dominant demography in 3/4 of the game genres avaiable.
Comedy. Somehow Mrs.Doubtfire got interpreted as a secret transgender rights activist somewhere done the line.
>>721689551>are women really fond of femboys though?Yes, they are. Fifty Shades of Grey was written for middle aged women. Most women playing JRPGs are Asian and 15-25 years old. This is not all women, but it is a significant subset where appealing to them is viewed as desirable. This is why the following will often be included>singular younger character in the shounen demographic (10-13 years old)>crossdressing character or crossdressing scene>vague and non-specific homoeroticism For one franchise that is popular with Japanese women, I present Danganronpa, specifically the first game since that's the community I'm most familiar with it.Hot topics among Japanese fans were>Naegi TogamiFor obvious reasons, and>Naegi FujisakiFor slightly less obvious reasons. That one even had its own tag on Japanese sites despite Fujisaki barely being in the game, SHSL Small and Cute Animals or something.And Naegi himself has a design that looks reminiscent of a shounen despite the character being 18 in the game.
>>721689805Brown haired one is Karol Capel from Tales of Vesperia.Purple haired one is Yuma Kokohead from Rain Code.
>>721689995>Fifty Shades of Grey was written for middle aged women.let's not pretend that young women prefer femboys, their type are also gigachad
>>721690167Thank you.
>>721688972guys dressing up as women is funny, but what's even funnier is when the npcs in the game accept the disguise. can you imagine real people seeing a crossdressing guy and believing it's a woman? lmao
>>721689031This is how its always been and its funny to see people whos sentience switched on suddenly 10 years ago getting angry at something they dont understand.
>>721690323to be fair they live in an anime world, and in that world, femboys really look like women
>>721688972Nonceville.
>>721690202'Women' are not a hivemind. This is something you would've learned had your parents imbued you with the concept of empathy instead of letting you go on the internet all day.There are women who want gigachad. There are also women who spend all day writing fanfiction about twinks getting fucked by other twinks or the gigachad in question. To go back to Danganronpa, there is an ending in the game wherein the twink main character gets raped by said gigachad. That ending is a large reason why the game has a significant female following in terms of vocal fans. To tie things back to Fifty Shades of Grey, that is a work derived from a fanfiction. A published work that predates it though, that was also successful, was the Mortal Instruments, which is based on a Ron/Ginny incest fanfic (of course), but that had been written by a woman with an obsessive love for Draco, who she framed as a snarky twink in her works and provided essentially the baseline for all (female) fan understanding of the character.If you REALLY want to see female fans loving twinks/femboys, why don't you go see Haikyuu's fanfiction stats on AO3. I was shocked too when I discovered it, and I will state right now, 90% of that, at LEAST, is all real women. Not trannies, not LARPers, it's all real women.
it's a classic.
>>721690593TLDR:Women are degenerate
>>721690593>has a meltdown and writes a wall of text to explain why women like crossdressing faggotslmao
>>721690859Most people active on the internet are.Bear in mind, you're on a site with the following, male-dominated, boards:>>>/e/>>>/d/>>>/trash/>>>/mlp/>>>/h/Among many others.>>721690889Retard.
>>721690593>the concept of empathyleftist spotted
>>721690953It's something one used to develop naturally through reading books as a child like Wizard of Oz or Narnia or Alice.
>>721689031"You know what's very, very funny? A man dressed in women's clothing.""Mm, yes, quite"
>>721690921But women are worse.Women have bad dragon They are evil And stinky
>>721691191women don't poop so how can they be stinky?
>>721691191Here is something I have only ever seen men use.https://github.com/markviews/VRChatVibratorController
>>721691191I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, women are fucking retarded, and everyday I'm ashamed that my dick gets hard when looking at naked ones, faggots have it easy man, at least they don't have to deal with those creatures to have a fulfilling life lol
>>721691263Yeast infected bloody dildos>>721691271Men can't destroy their penis with too much sexWomen destroy all their holes by age 12.It's our duty to hate them
>>721688972It's funny because crossdressers are incredibly easy to spot. It's often more used at the expense of the people they're 'fooling' because they're even more idiotic than the average person since they can't tell it is a man.
>>721691276Why can't we just have a poll on how many men want to take women's rights?Just one poll
>>721691320indian
tranime psyop for men
>>721688972Because it works.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_cross-dressers
>>721691516actually, troons are furious when they make those jokes, so I want them to continue lol
>>721691497
>>721691497ZAMN INDIANS RAPE THIS ON THE DAILY?!?
>>721691497https://youtube.com/shorts/mPCf_H-6A88?si=Wc9NjutyAFqBwhEJ
>>721689551Yes. Their first instinct as little girls is to find a cute looking pretty boy to dress into a girl and smooch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR05gypHJt8
>>721688972It's hot
>>721688972It's as old as time immemorial
>>721688972Who is the shorty from
>>721691592Troons love trapshit althobeit. There's a tranny in /fgg/ who draws trap yaoi.
>>721688972Could you cut the fucking shit please.I know you've watched WKUK.We all have.You've laughed.Again, we all have.And you know good and goddamn well how often they crossdressed.Sit your goofy ass down and shut up.
The only women into trapshit aren't women at all
>>721688972You are not a man if you cannot dress like a woman and still feel like a man.
>>721689031>Girls can wear jeans>And cut their hair short>Wear shirts and boots>Because it's okay to be a boy>But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading>'Cause you think that being a girl is degradingThen it becomes about a very deliberate degradation fetish. If you mistake that for any kind of legitimate sexuality, you're literally just a pedo sadist like the Romans
>>721700223I submit that being a girl is not degrading in and of itself, but rather becoming a girl is. Degradation is about loss of status, not about whether your status is low or high. If you start low and stay low, you aren't degraded. And on the contrary, a high status person can feel incredibly degraded over some minute breach of social etiquette that signifies loss of face.
>>721690202>let's not pretend that young women prefer femboysNot them, but based off the women I currently work with I'm gonna assume that they're a hell of a lot more popular than you might think.
>>721690202>they hated jesus because he told them the truth
>>721690202Friend. You are on 4chan. Take a look around and see the vast spectrum of disgusting things people are into. You are the board where even now someone is posting snail. You know there are people who like impossibly obese proportions or jar girls, monsters and aliens and all kinds of impossible things, let alone those into various psychological fetishes such as feeders, cucks, etc.Yet somehow you cannot imagine women who might be into the comparatively tame idea of femboys? Are you not aware of the equivalent? The muscle mommy threads?
>>721701957women do NOT like sex
>>721689551Why would "women" only have one category of tastes when men can't even agree on tits or ass, and in the case of this site the age at which it's reasonable to stick your penis into a child, you retard?
>>721702248With you*.Women do not like sex, with you.
Women like it, and its not as weird as you think.Every man likes tomboys right?Its like that, but for girls.
>that ip rights warning at the bottomit's crazy how fucking delusional "artists" are. these niggers are like a good high school doodler doing memey fanart and they're more covetous than actual artists.
>>721688972Jarpigtrannies love when their self-inserts dresses as a girl.
>>721688972>JRPG'sIt's JRPGs.Learn how to use apostrophes, you brown SEAgroid piece of shit.
>>721688972Crossdressing is a very beautiful thing and should be sn option in more games.It's sad that it is frowned upon by society so much.
>>721688972If if looks like this (which how I imagine was in FF7 pre-total faggotry) or jojo pt2 or paddington movie, then it's fine and very funny because somehow it worked.
>>721689031Men having fun in dresses have been one of the first cultural form of human since the fucking cavemen times. We just can't help it.
>>721690953HES RAPED!HES KEKED!HE DESCOVERED EMPATHY AT 30!
>>721705187Dresses were only invented after humanity started setteling down.Cavemen just had togas and grass skirts.
Good enough for Thor, good enough for me, simple as.
>>721689089Not at all. See, I looked that up some time. Thought has some deep philosophy behind it.Women played women in kabuki, but they were laszive and aroused the noble men. Eventually rich women cried out. Kabuki managers then suggested that men play women and it is since then the women were banned on kabuki stages.
>>721689551Women fear erected penises
>>721690593>Mortal Instruments, which is based on a Ron/Ginny incest fanfic (of courseHow do you know?The other points you mention do add up.
>>721690740... For real?
>>721689031We get up to some tomfoolery for sure, imagine something so absurd?
>>721688972There is no such thing as asian men
>>721691276But finding one that actually clicks is nice. Then I realize I'm a waste of anyone's time and that the more eye contact we make the more our masks slip and I want nothing to do with any of it.
>>721688972>Appeals to straight men>Appeals to straight women>Appeals to bisexuals>Appeals to gay menFemboygods just can't stop winning.
>>721688972asians are depraved and all JRPGs are thinly veiled fetish parades
>>721693203Almost correct. Their first instinct is to find anything they can grasp and turn into a girl to simulate homely activities. Piccolo and King Kong figurines? No problem, they get a cute outfit and will accompany barbie and Ken to go get groceries for the family.
>>721706119>to gay men?Doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. Why would I want my men to look like women? Defeats the purpose of liking men, don't you think?
>>721690593Uh oh melty
>>721706339*Ahem*... power bottom.That is all.
>>721706407>indians fear posts with more than two words
>>721690202>let's not pretend that young women prefer femboys, their type are also gigachadI dunno what you seppos are smoking, but GIgachad is something male gays like. Women always liked pretty boys and always will. Gays, in fact, do not like pretty boys that much, surprisingly.t. was a pretty boy wearing make up in a gothic band once, been there, done that. Gays hated it, men hated it, chicks loved it.
>>721706538I can second this. The only people that ever follow the "lol femboy" trend are prison gays or teenagers memeing things they have no actual cut or chase towards.The thin bar is liking "twinks" which barring the very small fraction of men who actually just like thin dudes, it's usually code word for "I want to get as close to broadcasting I am a pedophile without going to jail."
>>721707828To prison with you, anon.
>>721689439sex with boku
>>721708054Been there, done that. Surprisingly comfortable, not nearly as much action as you'd expect to get. Then again I am not prize meat so no surprises there. Made good friends with a few of the locals.Imagine that.Friendzoned in prison. Grim.
>>721708730>Why'd you break out of prison?To have sex :(>cleared of all charges
>>721688972LOL
>>721708947
>>721703881Women are just far more monolithic than men in their tastes for the opposite sex. Think about it; when was the last time you ever saw a biological woman with a preference for short men?
>>721689551Have you seen the men from love and deep spaceRemember boy bandsRemember Justin beaberNow they are in to kpop
>>721688972Crossdressing and drag is possibly the oldest form of performance art and goes back to very ancient times, especially in Japan.
>>721709184>Have you seen the men from love and deep spaceThey're all near-identical tall, ripped, broad-shouldered men, calling them twinks/femboys is like calling a 500lb woman "curvy".
>>721709204The oldest form of performance arts were tribal dances. Back when cavemen would only wear animal hides and grass skirts, they would dance around a fire and chant tribal songs. Nowadays, this would be seen as a rather crude and primitive form of entertainment, but back then it was THE greatest thing.
>>721688972
>>721709284They look like twinks. They look nothing like the chads people on /fit/ people say girls are into
>>721690167
>>721709595I am immune to this shit.
>>721688972Tranimeslop.
>>721709647cause you're already on HRT?
>>721709715No.Estogen is like poison to me and I am pretty sure injecting it would just kill me.
>>721689439Excuse me, Souseiseki is a girl.And Cloud's crossdressing is 100% played for laughs.>>721689551The higher a woman's IQ, the less they care about masculine traits. That doesn't mean high IQ women prefer androgynous men, but there's a subset of women who do thanks to preferences being normally distributed.
>>721709775How do you even know
>>721709421>they all have abs>they all have well-defined muscles>they all have broad shoulders>they're all easily 6'2"+If that counts as a twink, then the majority of IRL men are twinks.
>>721710287I am just too manly. My body treats estogen as a form of poison and my immune system is rigged to destroy it on sight.
>>721689551Look at k-pop stars and take a guess...
>not one mention of achilles
>piece of media includes either a man or woman crossdressing>the character in question explicitly states and/or shows that they have no belief or pretence that they’re a member of the opposite sex and instead, the crossdressing is something they have to either do for practical/plot reasons, or it’s just a personal fashion choice>this gets interpreted as them being transI really don’t get it. Being trans by definition requires you to want to change your sex and to mentally see yourself as a member of the opposite sex.Why try to claim crossdressing characters are trannies when the media including these characters often make a point of showing that they’re NOT trannies?
>>721710485He looks beautiful and like he was having fun.I do not care what anti-femboy niggers say.
Very much a femboy- and cd enjoyer here, but ai bullshit such as >>721709595 is plain dead internet theory material: It's just a new queen of spades by disingenuous and dishonest spammers (they couldn't even be bother with coming up with a new signature symbol, lol...) who have zero interest nor investment in the subject. It's nothing but impotent rage bait.
>>721710810The day AI learns to make spade edits is the day the Internet ends
>>721710698You're still in denial about Bridget, aren't you? Or every other "femboy" who declares they have the heart of a woman (contrary to coomer belief, this is NOT a yaoi phrase, but a transgender one)>>721710776Spoken like a true chaser>>721710810You got baited and you're in denial
>>721709369>a lot of gamers are social outcasts>a lot of trannies are social outcasts>evidence shows that there’s an overlapImagine my shock.
>>721710698I don't think people call cloud trans. Now homo that's a different story
>>721710946The only thing I will "chase" is you with my chainsaw.
>>721710952A lot of them are trans and they're all in here defending trapshit>>721710973>I don't think people call cloud transThey do, they just give him a pussy. Fujoshits and trapfags are the same breed of degenerate and they both hate each other.
the japanese being huge pedophiles, faggots and nazis
>>721710996My, aren't we on edge today.
>>721710485those were jews taking anti national socialist propaganda photos
>>721710946>>721711042>the ESL wumao and vatnik brigade switching to text onlyThese niggers were less of a stain on the board when they at least posted images (who jannies instantly deleted lol)
You'd be happier as a girl.
>>721711097>DA HECCKIN EBIL JOOS DID PEARL HARBOR AND NANKING>>721711208And I see you're dodging the arguments proposed and going straight for the ad-hominem. You do know you're avatarfagging as a canon FTM, right?
>>721710485>kike still spamming these propaganda photosFirst in /tv/ now here?
>>721711008I like cute chicks and I like cute dicks, it isn't that deep bro
>>721711296Luckily, this weak manipulation does not work on me.
Japan is a very right wing country and crosdressing is a far right nationalist hobby
>>721709159About as often as I see men that aren't degenerate fetishists saying they find tall(er than them) women attractive. It never, ever happens outside of seedy hellholes like this.Same goes for women. You'll find them slobbering for cute short men on /cm/ often, but reality is a different slice.
The japanese version of Gigachad has a pretty feminine face and an herculean body, this is what causes all the confusion on this thread.
I think japs are just gay
>>721712054>reality is a different slice>tfw I'm 5'4
>>721688972funny they put Karol there, meanwhile Yuri got mistaken for a girl in the first 3 minutes of the game you wonder why wasn't he's the one crossdressing
>>721688972before 10 years ago guys dressing up in womens clothes was seen as a joke because it was so ridiculous that no one would ever actually do it
>>721712343Chastity cages are the dumbest shit ever.I want to see the LIL PEEN , otherwise i would fap to WOMEN
>>721706339>>721712286Us Yurifags got done dirty.
>>721712416I dunno, it's hot to see them cum without being able to touch.
>>721712343>that wobbly machinei see why they suggest a longer throw in the buying guides, effective travel is like half of actual
>>721712343Somehow this stuff works in fiction and drawn or animated better than in real life. This is just kinda disgusting.Same applies to hetero stuff too.
>>721712732everything works better in fiction or drawn than in real lifereal life sexuality is 90% fantasy that people roleplay as in their mind, even the most vanilla stuff
>>721706486ok, but what if you're kissing the guy and he can't get the words out?
>>721712892And if you managed to say no homo, what if the other guy replies with yes homo?
>>721713484They cancel each other out, you're in a grey zone. Just make sure the balls aren't touching and don't breathe a word to anyone.
Women like crackheads.
>>721713725I do, too.
>>721713725They really do, don't ask me how but every fucking druggy if he isn't completely hobo mode yet seems to have girlfriend, sometimes even an achieving one.This I can fix him shit is not just a meme I guess.
>>721689031>t. Shakespeare
>>721714195it's not about fixing himwomen just like "bad boys" and she will get drugs from him
>>721705832That's primarily because its author, Cassandra Clare, had named the incest fanfiction "Mortal Instruments", and deleted it a short time before writing her book that was named "The Mortal Instruments". The fanfiction is pretty funny, since the ultimate reveal was that it was about cuckolding if I recall, where Ginny was only getting with Ron as practice for getting with Harry. >>721710229Cloud's is half and half.It is funny, but the fact that it has a hidden bar for attractiveness and gates off certain types of scenes denotes the fetishistic aspect. It could be incidental, but I lump it in with fujoshi appeal, especially since Cloud himself was based on a fujoshi chart topping character, Cell arc Gohan.
>>721712416don't know what the image was, but yeah, chastity cages are shit. if I'm fucking a guy, I want his hard dick slapping off my stomach as I plow him. dicks should be free.
>>721710810>>721711208I like ambushes
>>721714608>fujoshi chart topping character, Cell arc GohanWait wut who do they ship him with Cell?piccolo
>>721715046Piccolo and Mirai Trunks, but being a fujoshi appeal character is less about shipping and more about aesthetics. It's a bit hard to see the Mirai Trunks part today, but a few fujoshi still carry that torch.
>>721712054I see men on normie social media talking about finding tall/fat/autistic women hot semi-frequently (to the point that people here started calling it "safe horny"), but I could count the number of women on any site who find manlets or fat men hot on one hand.>/cm/Most of the "women" there have penises, anon.
>>721715919That's because you go to male dominated websites.
>>721715919>Most of the "women" there have penises, anon.That explains why they want it and /y/ to be a trapshit place so bad
>>721710317People have a really loose and silly definition of twink these days. Letting straights in on the terms was a mistake
>>721689089>>721689305>>721690740Based and culturepilled patrician enjoyers.
>>721718492Weird compression :(
>>721718659It is (or was) what it is. But thanks for the better image!
>>721715025Who doesn't, really? They're a pure vidya soul
>>721718993He looks like he could snap my neck.
>>721719079They always act tough but really are big softies inside as long as you don't piss them off
>>721715025
Thread is becoming disgusting.
>>721689031>>721689116>>721689305>haha this is funnySaid the anons with throbbing erections
>>721718993>>721719656I want to demolish them
>>721688972Is a trope from ancient myth, Yamato Takeru dressed like a woman to get near an enemy and kill him.So the trope is so old is normal for the Japanese.
>>721688972Yu wasn't wearing a disguise, though.
>>721719974Good outfit.
>>721720141This.
>>721690593>To go back to Danganronpa, there is an ending in the game wherein the twink main character gets raped by said gigachad.What? The fuck Danganronpa game have you been playing?
>>721720447Still not working.Try harder.
>>721690740Thor shitty disguise as Freya is the funiest Thor story.
trap evolution into ambush
>>721720761Niggas really be like “I am a sexual degenerate for more ethical reasons”
>>721720761This.Also I like the hat.
>>721720856>“I am a sexual degenerate for more ethical reasons”.t every anon ever
>>721690431It's almost as if something else happened at that very same time and directly influenced this development.
>>721689143For some reason men dressed as women is considered peak British comedy, I guess it goes all the way back when women could not act in plays and men had to play women's roles.
>>721688972Haha...
>>721720221Maybe he thinks Hundred Line is a Danganronpa game. It does have a CG where Takumi has gay sex with Eito.
>>721688972>>721689031Literally no one in the OP thinks it is "funny" dude. They're all obvious fetish stuff.The humor from men in drag is shit like:>People don't realize it is a guy even though it is obvious. Might even have some evil guard be attracted to what is obviously a dude.>People INSTANTLY recognize it is a guy even though he went through the elaborate set up of getting a dress/wig/makeup/etc>Humor related to things like a regular or even military guy trying to walk in high heels or do their hair, etc>The guy getting to listen in onto "real" girl conversations and usually humor associated with thatetc, etc, etcAll of these are just "draw a girl, call it a boy" pretty much. Even if you had some guy want to fuck Link dressed a girl it isn't funny because he just looks like a fucking girl or at least such a feminine boy that no one would care. This is not like when Jotaro or whatever dresses in drag to try to fool the nazi soliders.
>>721688972Ha ha don't you think it will be funny if you fuck them while they are wearing a dress? Ha ha
>>721690740>classic>written by a fag hundred years ago
>>721688972The last character was the only one that made me pop a bonerSomething about how embarrassed he looks makes me absolute diamonds, and I am not even gay
>>721722343>I am not even gayI remember when I used to tell myself this too
>>721720183This was considered a 4/10 in the heian period.The japanese cannot suffer.
Draw a girl call it a boy is boring.Crossdresser hentai is hot when there are some hints of masculinity
>>721689031FpbpFuck troons
>>721706187>t. falseflagging trapfag
>>721688972most "male" characters in JRPGs already look feminine as hell
Since the times of Zeus or even earlier, it was documented that heroes crossdressed. After thousands of years we have still not changed.
>>721722807>unpromptly obsessedspambots or just plain online brain rot? who can even tell anymore
>>721725362You will never be a woman
>>721725420Kinda proving my point there, "Anon".
>>721724387As they should.
>>721715025and a good day to you too, fellow patrician
>>721690314
>>721688972It's mainly a gag, but also a "ho cares?" kind of thing.However due to latter, we have majority of right-wing consider Japanese media to be "tranime" and dangerous to children(reason why in USA right-wing is making any possibly sexual depiction of fictional girls that "appear" to be under 18 to be considered child porn in Texas(also it makes Disney happy to make competition illegal and as "tranime" is from "3rd world shithole" and Disney is domestic, you have Republicans defend the bill)). For example /v/ likes soijaks/wojaks more than anime these days. There is a good reason Nintendo as well is being targeted with hate compared to western studios. Sony gets a small pass as they lean towards west with their games. As a 3rd worlder its bit depressing to follow and see stuff like romance manga get banned in USA and people clap. For example pic rel can get you jail time in Texas.
>>721688972I read this sentence 3 times and read crossbreeding every time
>>721728463that robot is like 12 you sick fuck
>>721722339yes that's what classics are
>>721726693We could write books about you and your allies retardation, but why bother when a meme is more entertaining and concise?
huh
why are these types of threads always necrobumped
>>721689031This
>>721690431It stopped being funny when men started doing it with the intention of pretending to be women for real, while demanding you treat them and acknowledge them as actual biological women with the exact same rights..then they started attacking femininity, and we're still supposed to just nod and play along?
