Beware of the hat predator.
Animals can't be alchemists
I want to play but i can't juggle 3 games at a time
i too, love "momentos">>721776617cmon anon, play the new borderlands, trails, battlefield, and donkey kong all at once. get those toes working on your switch while the hands play bf6
WHERES THE MANA KHEMIA 2 MUSICFUCK THE MUSIC CHANGE SYSTEM IF YOU ONLY SHRINK THE OPTIONS FOR NO REASON
Basically, Atelier series stopped the "child molestation is cute" bit JUST IN TIME to avoid being completely shut down. Like literally just in time before normies and media started getting more interested in video games.We almost lost the franchise permanently over that troon shit.
>>721776689>showplease point to where in this CG you see a child being molested. Starting to think you're actually a member of that retarded review board with how hard you're defending it.
SEX WITH THE RABBIT
how goonable is this game?i'm disappointed that ryza was a nothingburger of bait and switch artwork being posted
A reminder that these 2 costumes are cockblocked in the west
>>721776392Huh? How is there a new game already, hasn't Yumia came out just couple months ago?
>>721777012The dialogue explained what was happening. very simple.
>>721777142
Finally i got the petanko witch, I can tell Raze to fuck off already
>>721777717
>>721777260Is it in the JP PC version at least?
>>721777610so nothing was actually shown then? glad you agree. a text description is far less explicit than a visual depiction, especially when the text is just the spoken dialogue with no descriptions of the actions being taken. So why does this deserve an 18+ rating in your eyes again? and no "i'm Australian" isn't actually a valid explanation.
>>721777772close, but no >>721777777
how do i unlock the wish theme/menu music from resleri gacha to play in my hideout, you know the one that goes hard. the one that is a BANGER. like youd hear it in the wish menu, but not after wishing
>>721777260>pirated the game>have those costumes unlockedSounds like a skill issue
Every flat witch needs a stylish broom.
NO PANTIES NO BUY
>>721778175dude you are literally jerking off to 4-polygons get help. or better yet, play zzz
>>721778256ZZZ doesn't have panties either since its safe horny chinkslop
>>721778175At first I thought this was some speedrun technique but then LOL
>>721777965>the child molestation wasn't actually shown...you were just told what was going on as you look at a CG of a woman straddling a girlBro, it's over. Atelier, Gust, and almost everyone moved on past the perverted shit in Arland long ago. just get over it, only a few people on this board and yuritroons on discord are ever going to defend it. funny too that you keep emphasizing how horrible a scene where a man kissed a woman was in comparison, not accusing you of anything, but it is funny you have to admit
>>721776392is this one better than yumia, yes or no cuz i had to drop that one for being a total goddamn snoozefest
>>721778175Play Blue Reflection then, that one even has lingerie and has different designs for the panties.
>>721778474so you have no argument at all then? the discussion isn't even about whether or not the perversion depicted in arland should continue to be part of the series, so i'm not sure why you bring that up. it's about whether or not the content is so bad it deserves an ADULTS ONLY rating, like actual pornography. and nobody with any reason would think that tame CG mixed with some suggestive dialogue crosses that threshold. I'm not even sure why you're defending the decision so much, literally everyone thinks its a joke that Totori got that rating. that's why pic related became a meme in the first place.
>>721778748That game is censored as well
>>721777496yumia was made to chase a new audience, this one was made to feed the fans
>>721778884...Do you want panties in games yes or no? In this case the censorship regarding the dressing room or model viewer (which can't even be used if you don't get DLC) is irrelevant.
w⦸?
>>721776392beware of the megaflop
Hmmm
>>721778740Yes, its better
>>721777829They are pre-order exclusive for Japan market according to the other thread
>>721779189ḅŀüệ ŕệḟŀệċẗïöń 4 ẅḧệń?
>>721778859>literally everyone thinks its a jokeYou mean a few people on 4chan, discord, and reddit?Speaking of having no argument, that's what having no argument looks like my man. Reddit made a meme out of it, it must be OK!
>>721779128I want pantiesshots actually
>>721778748those girls look too youngit's the art style, i think. the atelier models look like 5 years older
>>721779683>games should be censored for fucking idiots that will never play them!
>>721779738I'll take that as a yes then.>>721779757Yeah, the most recent Atelier games and both Blue Reflection games don't have the exact same art style, Atelier Lulua and the Ryza games especially may look a little like the Blue Reflection games but...not exactly the same obviously. Some girls in the first game look very young one can say, especially Yuzu, Lime, Ako, Fumio and Chihiro (more or less, she has large breasts).
>>721779953This world should be cleansed of filth everywhere it exists.
>unblocked 3 village shops in 1 selling daybased
>>721779539If one wants to be optimistic...next year...maybe.
>>721780059Filth according to retarded american protestants?
sex with all of the resleriana girls
The fairies are alvin and the chipmunks. You can never unsee this message.
>>721780345
So how is the game? I haven't played an Atelier since Iris, unless Mana Khemia 1 and 2 (Raze is my nigga) count as one, but I always pop into these threads whenever I can.
They should bring Honoka over to the console game.
>>721776946Retard.
>>721780289According to me.
>>721780604>unless Mana Khemia 1 and 2 (Raze is my nigga) count as oneDespite not having atelier in their titles, they are in fact mainline games numbered 9 and 10 respectively
>>721776392Meh don’t care, the useless male protagonist actually turned me off from buying this. First Atelier game I’m skipping out on.
>>721781309I just wish he didn't have the Genshin Impact ponytail.
>>721780345Alvina is quite mischievous.>>721780706Marie Rose too!
>>721780706mods or base game outfits?
>>721781503Base outfits in the gacha, not the game this thread is about.
>>721777260just mod them back
>>721781502doujins never ever
>>721781569why do only 2 or 3 games out of this entire franchise have good outfits that can be swapped out?
Camilla really wants to fuck Slade, doesn't she?
>>721781759I'd say it's more like 5 or 6 games. But yeah I feel ya.
>Slade and Rias meet for one minute>already thinking about when to fuck and have kids
the few critic reviews in seem pretty harsh on it so far, while the user reviews im seeing are really liking it and saying way better than yumia. Curious
I bet some (((producer))) wanted to make a porno with her...
>>721778175You have to admire the dedication to go so far as to do oob clips for the sake of pantsu
>>721781930I've noticed that players are a lot more chill than critics as long as the game doesn't do anything controversial to earn review bombing. This is especially true for relatively smaller franchises like Atelier where players feel like they're helping the series survive by leaving good reviews.
>male mcPass
>>721781930First few hours of the game have little gameplay in comparison to watching and reading. Only series diehards are going to put up with this imo
>>721778175>now we need Rorona to run against this rock to build up speed for 12 hours
>>721781961PLEASE JUST REMOVE THE PONYTAIL
>>721781131Interesting. I always considered them spin-offs from the main series, so it's nice to see that they consider them to be mainline. I might have to pick this one up and see how the series has changed since the last time I played one.
>>721776392I got filtered by Winged Master in Atelier Ayesha and I'm still salty about it.
>1997+28>dialog is still text boxes with "press button to progress">even with animated cutscenesEven Final Fantasy 10 figured out how to make dialog progress in a proper fashion, and that was 24 years ago.
>>721776392>she even jiggles in the title menudayum girl
>>721778859>it's about whether or not the content is so bad it deserves an ADULTS ONLY rating, like actual pornographyThe Australian R18 rating isn't an "adults only" rating. It's equivalent to the American M rating. An actual adults only rating would be X which would effectively be a ban because consoles don't sell games with that rating.
>>721780706This is about as cringy as that xc2 webm.
Wilbell asking the hard questions.
Why is Rias okay with showing off her body to everyone?
>>721783012have you seen that slut resna?
>>721783012Even compared to other Atelier protagonists, she probably has a personality of ''I'm okay with showing this much skin'', other characters such as Shallistera, Rorona and maybe Totori would be embarrassed
>>721782982He looks like such a fag lol can’t believe they released this shovelware. Appealing to westerners really has ruined this series
>>721783012Cats traditionally don't wear clothes. And don't quote me on this but girls named Rias also tend to be pretty comfortable not wearing clothes.
>>721783203Ironically this is the game that's supposed to be appealing to the japs.
>>721783203I think they're trying to appeal to Chinese with that guy (looks like a Genshin character)
>>721783246She should take up playing chests. I mean chess.
>>721776392>bell I will now buy your game
>>721783203Put his hair in a braid and he'd look like a character from an anime airing right now
>>721783564This man has a wife and is expecting a kid!
>>721783630>expectingIf you read the gaiden stories(like I am currently) you'd get to see him interacting with that kid
Totori is slowly driving me insane with her 10 billion conditions to set up a 100% save.
the only atelier game i've played was sophie and even though i got it used for $10 it was so fucking bad that I took it back the day i got it
>>721783467 Based Bellanon with refined taste. Honestly it only took her first smug line delivery for me to know I was in this for the long haul. Voice actress carried that whole arc like it was nothing.
>>721784394Sophie is one of the worst games in the series.
>>721784394To be fair, Sophie is by far one of the worst games in the series and carried entirely by how horny people are for Sophie. I highly recommend giving Rorona or Ayesha a try.
>>721784595It’s one of the best.
>launch trailer has less than 1000 viewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPb6mjNWkgA
>>721784721t. started with Sophie
>>721784709>>721784595whats better about the other games
>>721784930Up until Escha and Logy, the games are a lot more structured in their progression, and have a more coherent plot. Some of the others still manage it like Firis and LydieSuelle but Sophie meanders the whole game and has no actual sense of gameplay progression.
>>721784886I don't get the hatred for Sophie myself, either. Or the original mysterious trilogy in general. Seems like people shit on it way too much.t. started with Ar Tonelico and Mana Khemia
>>721784930>characters aren't shit>alchemy isn't shit>game isn't padded to shit with recipe idea point roadblocks because they had no idea how to pace a game without time limitsThe only good thing about Sophie is the music.
>>721784595Still mogged yumia and firis
>mogged by yumiasome of you have shit taste
>never finished Sophie, or played others in the trilogy>never finished Ryza 1, or played others in the trilogy>never finished YumiaResna I'm actually having fun with, this is the first time I've enjoyed an Atelier game in years.
>>721785124Watch this guy come back and say something like>Oh, Firis is the only good Mysterious game because it has le time limit!1!!
>>721785224It's not about the time limit though, and Firis' time limit was non-existent anyway.
>>721785273Good, that puts you above most people shitting on Mysterious, at least. The sheer number of times I've seen that shit from supposed atelier fans is ridiculous.
>>721785224No, he's right, those two games are even worse.
>>721785224Yeah lol, firis is still the black sheep of Mysterious in both sales and reception. No amount of deflect cope will change history.
>>721784886To be fair, i also started with sophie and i would never call that game good.Only Lydie& Suelle and Sophie 2 are good games within the mysterious quadrology.
>>721785224you've got it backwards, Firis is the only bad time limit game.
>>721785442>Sophie and Firis are shit so I skip L&S and Sophie 2 when those are the supposedly good ones
>>721785273It really was. I remember getting real antsy when I got stuck in that port town for awhile, worried about how much time I'd have left for everything else, but I ended getting to the test after getting all recommendations with a shitton of time to spare.
>>721785442There's 5 mysterious games, you forgot Lulua, but its also shit so your conclusion is still correct.
>>721785563Lulua is an Arland game, anon.
>>721785558Nah, i actually finished both games though.I mean sophie's in both games so there's no way i would skip those games.
>>721785629lolno, it's a clone of Sophie dressed up in the corpse of Arland.
>>721785664I mean, you're not wrong, but.
>>721783564That man also gets pissy when you tell him he looks like a girl.
>>721785925seems like he could solve that by cutting his hair instead of spending 8 hours styling it like a girl every morning.
>>721783203>that design>westernersMore like chink women
>>721785057Sophies just kinda very lukewarm. Firis is a nonsensical slog. Lydie and Suelle is peak of the entire series for me ez. Haven't played soph 2 yet tho
>>721784886I started with Rorona>>721785057There’s an internet phenomenon where a vocal minority of Arland fans perceive Arland is being more difficult because of harsh time limits, and so they pretend to like the Arland games and hate everything else because liking harder thing = being more cool. But they are only a loud minority.
>>721785208>>721785124>moggedYou type like a faggot therefore opinion discarded
Atelier got better when they removed the time limits.
>>721785563Lulua is good though
>>721786652its not that perceiving Arland games are difficult because of time limits, but by removing time limits, Atelier games lost its identity and just became another generic JRPGslop with alchemy bits, specially when newer Atelier games focused on combat than alchemy
I apologize for bringing up time limits. I will never do it again. Forgive me.
>>721787273I mean. Atelier is so much more than a time limit mechanic. Unfortunately you lose the aspect of resource management by removing the time limit. But the soul of Atelier is still present until somewhere in the middle of the Ryza trilogy where you can sense the hand of KT influencing more and more. But you could sense it earlier too.
>>721787508well its like Dead Rising, the new games dont have time limits, its still have that combine weapon shit from previous games.... but removing the time limits, the new Dead Rising games is just another zombieslop games
>>721776392Rias is kind of a baka. She's perfect.
Stop looking at me like that Rias.
>>721776617Tell me about it. I still have to play Trails in the sky, Tokyo xtreme racer, silent hill f and pacman, and then next week is digimon and final fantasy tactics.
>>721787743Maybe. The tone of the games shifts a little from time and resources management sim, to cozy slice of life game that you take at your own pace. But the core of these games is their crafting systems and the character events that keep interrupting you. Well, there are other things that got lost with the removal of time limits, like the incentive to replay for multiple endings but I will leave it at that.
>>721787508time limits fundamentally enhance crafting as a mehcanic. every ingredient has a cost, remove that and its like playing on god mode with infinite resources, its boring. the time limit games could get away with being relatively easy, because the trial and error necessary to find broken stuff had an actual high cost for the player. then the devs removed the time limits but didn't change any of that, so the games just became a joke. they've been slowly trying to figure out a new identity for the series by making combat or alchemy more complex, but its never really quite hit the right sweet spot.
>>721787743adding and misusing 'slop' to everything makes you a faggot. That is all.
Let’s not fight.
>>721788727time limits should return
>>721788727Hmm i don’t know maybe you’re right. I’m not good at these games so it always takes me way longer to clear them than other people. I don’t bother looking up guides so my stuff is always super weak and I spend forever on trial and error just to stop wiping to normal enemies.
>>721789243They should add reverse time limits. If you accomplish tasks too quickly you get punished for it.
>>721788727strong disagree. Time limit is just a lazy game mechanic and I've never found it to enhance a single game ive played with it. The opposite, basically always. It's not going to happen but the real way ateliers formula would shine is by having a significantly better difficulty curve in the game. Make it so that crafting stuff throughout the game is actually meaningful to progression and not something youre better off not wasting your time on making decent items because you just replace them and so on. Sadly, this is a pipe dream for several reasons.
Rias is cute, i like her so far
>>721789476I would rather see more of Resna. I always thought she would have been the perfect next Atelier protagonist with a really good character design. Eh. It’s okay I’m not mad anymore.
>>721789303>My dream is to be an amazing alchemist>but my boss is a shithead middle manager and there aren't any other alchemy shops in town where i can practice>I have to learn as much alchemy as i can while making sure not to be too productive at work or else i'll get assigned too many tasks and not have time to learn alchemy>this is the story of Ewagelia, the protagonist of Atelier Wagie and the Hidden Elves, the first entry in the new Hidden series of Atelier games
Oh no!
>>721790052>dogshit console is dogshitwoah! shocking truth!
Are we daijoubu
>>721786652There's a phenomenon where Sophiefags make up a straw man that people like time limits and hate Sophie because there's no time limit and that's the only argument anyone has and the only reason anyone would dislike Sophie.
>>721789476She's already one of my favorites of the Atelier protags
>>721789432>It's not going to happen but the real way ateliers formula would shine is by having a significantly better difficulty curve in the game. Make it so that crafting stuff throughout the game is actually meaningful to progression and not something youre better off not wasting your time on making decent items because you just replace them and so on.You just described Arland and Dusk.
>RaWG having less numbers than yumia and/or ryzaGuess turn based games is really dead and they might go back to yumia style or ryza style games next year.
>>721790729>check top sellers>have to scroll down for over a hundred entries before finding it underneath some AI slop porn game>check global top sellers>not as bad but still pretty fucking badIt's over. Yumia is the future now.
The main reason I'm not interested in the new one is the guy having so much presence as one of the protagonists.
>updating title screenI appreciate it.
>>721791057Fuck off troon no one cares
>>721790808pretty weird since Shallie was the game that axed time limits, not Sophie.
>>721790808Fuck off troon no one cares
AIEEEE SHE'S HERE
>>721790970releasing 2 games in the same year was a bad idea. releasing a game with the same name as your ded gacha was a bad ideaGUST wanted Rias's game to fail.
>>721790956They’ll probably make Sophie 3 next year
>>721792313I forgot how bad Shallie was.
is this a good intro to the series? I was going to try Sophie or one of the loli games soon
>>721792373also releasing a game after your previous one sucked assdestined to fail but I'm having fun playing
>>721792373Before watching the press releases on their official youtube channel, I thought Rias was supposed to be Resna but a few years later, with cat ears somehow like an alchemy experiment went wrong. The marketing surrounding this game was confusing. Maybe calling it Atelier Rias would have been more appropriate? Rias and Slade?
Buy Ryza's game.
>>721792573Yeah it’s better than the Arland games so far, not sure about the others.
>>721792709That's not until November.
>>721792709I already got three of them
>>721777012I feel like people pretend atelier was too hentai at this point when it was always a ip mostly for women
Is this a real Atelier or just a spinoff? Didn't Atelier Yumia release this year????
>>721792903What’s a real Atelier?
>>721792970Sophie
>>721792903Ironically, this is the spin-off (of a gacha, no less) but it's also more of a real Atelier than Yumia, the latest main title in the IP. If you're familiar with Monster Hunter discourse, it's a lot like what's happening there: series got popular, main games appeal to new audience and deviate, spin-offs focus on flashy mobile fanservice for existing fans.
>>721790898I played all of arland and dusk back to back - and no, not really. You can get by with mediocre gear and items on normal. Yes of course you could turn on ultra hard sponges but really not the same as a proper difficulty curve. Related to this, there's also just too many items in game. There's so many useless ones. If items could be iterated on (somewhat like Ryzas) - that would help too.
>>721776392Wait, new Atelier game already ?Or is this based on the EoS'd gacha or what ??
>>721792373don't forget they released it in absolute obscene crowd. Hades 2, Trails last week, ppl still on shitsong, FFT tuesday, BL4, Silent hill. A truly horrible time to release a niche game. Why small games don't target dead weeks will forever be beyond my comprehension
I WANT TO PLAY THIS BUT I STILL HAVE SO MANY GAMES TO PLAY>Shuten Order>Varlet>Trails in the Sky>HYKE>Silksong>Mandragora>Chrono Gear>Kemono Teatime>Agatha ChristieI'm still on Shuten Order but it's so long AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>721792709I did and I wish I hadn't.
>>721793129Probably shareholder bullshit and quarter financials or something.
Well I’m glad they’re trying to improve the atelier series. The games have always been lower quality than their peers and full of jank especially in the PS3 era where it lost its way in the transition to 3d and got worse after its strong performance in the PS2 era. It started to get better in the PS4 era but didn’t really hit its stride until Ryza. Sure they’ve had some missteps but that’s because innovation requires risk and risk doesn’t always pay off.
>just started 2nd part of utawarerumono>still have SRW,trails of sky and now this atelier>on top keeping up with resleri JP gacha when there are new updates>also a wagie.Dang.
>>721793182>>721793489>work + commute + prep/unpacking + shower from 6 AM to 7.30 PM>also have tons of gunpla backlogit's over....
>>721793457Now this is shitposting
>>721776392pointy witch hat, sexo!
>>721793604This latest entry is pretty good, right?
>selling consumables at 0 usagesIs Rias' store actually just a scam shop?
>>721793725Items aren't infinitely reusable in this one? They actually get consumed when used?
>>721793814Yeah. I think they want you to use the Item Replication feature that lets you replicate an existing item with Cole. Unless I missed how to restore the usages of an item somewhere.
Atelier Sophie 3: The Alchemist and the Mysterious Fucking Choice to make a mobile gacha game and base a game on the gacha game and make the title a character you don’t actually play as and is not the protagonist at all. Coming in 2027 alongside Atelier Yumia 2, which is another mobile gacha but only for Android and can only be accessed via LINE.
>>721793935Oh, nevermind. There's the option to restock your charges. Costs money too, though.
>>721794051That's still neat. Ties into the resource management discussion from earlier.
Atelier Sophie 3 should make Oskar fat again
>>721794113make Sophie fat
>>721794043Technically the word resleriana is supposed to be an old word with some meaning I can't remember at the moment and it's a total 'coincidence' that the name Resna comes up with for the atelier happens to incorporate their names in it
>>721793725Rias' used goods are a top tier item.
>>721793074Its a new game in the world of the gacha
>>721794974With finished story ??China will never gonna do this
>>721788727>>721789432>>721789250the great thing about the old Atelier games, with the time limits, you have to really manage your time to craft the best weapons and armor.that means considering where you will go to pick materials, consider which ingredients to use with the best traits, how to combine traits and make them powerful, how to transfer traits to other ingredients that cannot naturally inherit them, researching what works, just like a what would a real alchemist would dothe new Atelier games without time limits just let you brute force your way to the mixing to get the best items available
>>721794113It never made sense that Oskar was fat in the first place.
Rias goes for a high price.
i just met ayesha after escaping with the fairies and i missed her so much i wish she got another game
>>721784143you can never truly have a 100% save since getting the true ending and all 4000 license points are mutually exclusive
>>721787273If you think time limits were more integral to the series identity than the I don't know FUCKING ALCHEMY then you are a brainless retarded and need to be euthanised so you don't spread your stupidity.
>>721795519save scumming exists you know
>>721793489>just started 2nd part of utawarerumonoMan I still miss Keiji Fujiwara. Haku is my favourite protagonist ever and his voice acting made him who he is.
>>721795771weird thing is her dusk model is kinda cuter than the res one
Time limits haven't been a part of this series for 11 years now and these retards still won't fuck off and play something else.
>>721796163The Marie remake had the option for both types
>>721776392One of these just came out 6 months ago. Is one of them an old release thats only just getting localised?
We did it, bros. A new peak.
>>721796004Wilbell's face looks weird.
>>721796924all the games designs feel a bit off 2bh
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Is it true that there's a bunch of stuff just not in the game right now that they're adding later as DLC? Should hold off on picking up the game until it's added?
>>721797314Welcome to every corporate game for the last 15 years
>launch game>team ninja logoWait, what. What did they do?
>>721797448They're in charge of jiggle physics
>>721797416Is that a yes?
>>721797314yes, but if you wait too long they also remove stuff from the game that's currently in it.
>>721797448Izuna drop and ultimate technique animations. Ryu can join your party
Cute blushing Rias.
>>721797718Cute moment
>>721797705NTA but can't you download the free costumes now without even having the game? I'm pretty sure I did that with Sophie 2.
runs well which is shocking. did they fix up yumia to this level as well?
>>721797976different engine. This one uses the same engine as the gacha.
Vayne spotted.
kek
>>721798053oh i see. i saw the menu and asumed same engine.
>you can change gift colorsNow that's useful.
she's here!
Should a future atelier game have a chubby protagonist?
She was on the verge of inviting Slade to stay at her place instead of the inn. Sex soon.
>animal ears>no tailI hate this
Lara's FAT milkers.
Forgot how obscene her tits were after the global servers for the gacha went down.
So this one or Yumia?
>>721799461this one
I will play this cause I play all the Ateliers, but this one will hurt extra. Not just cause I have to watch my favorite series continue to go downhill, but because it'll remind me what we lost.
post them gameplay webms niggas
how do i go back to playing as rias in the overworld? i dont want to play as this M*le
>>721778256nobody is jerking off, it's a matter of principle
I think I bought the wrong game
disgusting
>>721800032it's a turn based game nobody cares about webms of turn based gameplay. The interesting part of the gameplay isn't able to be showcased in a single webm.anyways here's a webm of Resna's boobs jiggling
>>721800032I'll give you one.
So is this like Escha and Logy where you have unintentional romantic tensions between the female and male protagonists?
>>721800358>unintentionalevery NPC has been shipping them so farseems like it's entirely intentional
Is the alchemy good again?Yumia's alchemy fucking sucked.
>>721800345>it's a turn based gamewait, isn't the previous game an action game? didn't sell that well huh
>>721800572seems similar to lulua in a sense. Getting maxed effects is simple (just pick items with the highest item level) but instead getting the traits you want can be difficult and may require crafting chains to set up your materials.
>>721800248The principle of being a fucking perver that needs stimuli at every moment?
>>721800807They are all "turn-based"
>>721800358no, it is very intentional in this game
>>721800923>you want to be stimulated playing a video game?! AAAAIIIIEEEE Shapiro, Kirk, Anita, Reddit SAVE ME!
>anon isn't stimulated by pure feminine beautylol what a faggot
>>721797718They owe us Sterk x Rorona
Taking a while to get Sophie or Totori.
>No one recruited Sophie yetGo on, I'm waiting
>>721801514Gotta save the best for last
I-i can recruit ryza, right? i saw she was in the game...
>>721799127Did they ever make her playable in the gacha?Is she playable in this one?
>>721801789Yes all the villains in gacha become dindu and pullable.No she's not playable in the console game for now
>>721801881Lame. Maybe she'll be playable in Resna 2 DX.
PCtard here, how do I force snoystation button prompts? I don't know which button is A
Wait this doesn't have a ps4 version? Man i really dont want to stream from 500 miles away from my home ps5, i only have my ps4 slim with me.
>>721800923It's about knowing that the pantsu exists and that somebody cared enough to model and put it in the game (while hopefully also enjoying doing so.)Actually seeing the pantsu during gameplay is not that important. There is a very fine balance that need to be struck where the player knows it exists without it being too in the face or visible frequently.Games that fail to do so and make it too easy are a completely different topic, or just simply don't understand the true soul of it.
>>721802175Based Totoribro
>game flopped massively hardHmmmm... must because it is a bad game and definitely not because it had basically 0 advertisement to the point that one reviewer even used a picture of the gacha game as mistakeNow if you'll excuse me, I'll keep pretending that Sophie 1 and Yumia are good games solely because of sale numbers
>>721802410Based Kei
>>721800242click left or right stick, can't recall which
>>721802413Honestly, i don't follow news about Yumia at all. What the fuck happened?
>>721802413they wasted all the marketing budget on yumia, should have saved some for this game, its the better one
>>721802413A lot of jrpg games flop anon
>>721802413To be fair most atelier games aside from ryza(and maybe yumia) flopped.Though i heard JPfags compensating with merchs.
>>721802881It was heavily marketed with trailers at game shows, a demo before release (which you'll notice Resna 2 didn't get), and was riding off of Ryza's coattails. It came out and sold incredibly well to start with. Then word of mouth got around about how shit it was and sales dropped off a cliff and it's the only Atelier game on Steam with mixed reviews.
>>721803342>how shit it wasLast time i remember they proudly introduce their new system for "modern audiences" but that turned me off. I guess i was right.
>>721803342>a demo before release (which you'll notice Resna 2 didn't get)A demo for Resna would have been nice. I'm on the fence because of the old characters appearing, but I'm not just going to give KT 60 eurobucks for post-ryza atelier without trying it out first.
>>721800923
>>721803205series would have been shelved if not for L&S and then Ryza was jet fuel relatively
>>721803441Well if you didn't hear how the game itself was it was more boring open world crap with the same few points of interest copy pasted over and over again, more shitty faux-action combat but this time it's trivialised by an overpowered dodge action where you'd have to be a retard to lose at all, and alchemy completely breaks the game even faster than usual. What really pissed everyone off though is the alchemy being hugely simplified and it having an auto alchemy system where because of how it works the auto alchemy could easily make the strongest items and there was no reason to do it manually. Oh and strengthening your alchemy abilities was done by gathering gems from exploring instead of from actually doing alchemy. No alchemy tools for exploring either, you just do everything with your gun.
>>721803205>To be fair most atelier games aside from ryza(and maybe yumia) flopped.The only real flops were both Mana Khemias and Lydie & Suelle. Arland was hugely successful and so was Sophie, it's just that Ryza blew all previous sales records out of the water.
Does this one use the same tetris alchemy that Sophie 2 did? Cause I'm playing that now and man does it get old having to manually fit the shapes in the most efficient way possible with the sheer obnoxious amount of alchemy you need to do.
Only played 8 hours so far, but this seems like one of the better atelier games
>$60Brother it looks like a PS3 game and apparently it's really short. I guess I'll wait for a sale.
>>721804632how long is the game?
>>721804753About 30 hours to 100% it
>>721796558Never let team ninja cook again.
>>721804907No way Atelier games are like 50 for just the MQ if you don’t use a guide and skip scenes bro
>>721804951The IS mostly cutscenes tho, I didn't skip anything
>>721805042The game*
>>721805042Oh but you DID use a guide, day one? to Reddit monsieur
>>721805146Are there even day 1 guides. No really, the game is quite short
Is the game as shit as people say?
>>721805375Who is "people"? I've seen nothing but positive things said about it.
>>721805502>75 metacritic scoreIt's the same as being bad
>>721805375It's not shit, it's"a return to form" unironically, but it has like no fucking content yet. I don't know if they'll eventually add postgame.
>>721805549>journosNever mind you're clearly retarded. Play something more up to your speed like Fortnite or something.
>>721804421>both Mana KhemiasReally? For a flopped game MK sure has dedicated fans then.
>>721805549The score is low because the dumb journos unironically mistoke this game for the gacha one
>>721796039Hey lil bro, alchemy and time limits were mechanics that worked hand in hand.Alchemy was overall easier because the main constraint related to it was how long would it take you to synthesize an item. Now that time limits are gone the devs had no choice but to make the alchemy system contrived and needlessly bloated, like tetris alchemy or loops. Shallies and Luluas alchemy is neat tho.
>>721804951That has never been true.
>>721805579>return to form>censor shorts
>>721805772>Now that time limits are gone the devs had no choice but to make the alchemy system contrivedPretty much this. Killing time limits unironically killed the comfy aspect that the series had. They might as well just be generic JRPGs now with a crafting system
>>721797964yep, steam allow that lol
>>721805549>journosyou said people earlier
>>721805772>>721806058>time limits made the game more comfyI've seen a lot of stupid posts in my time on /v/ but this is stupid to an impressive degree.
>>721806546>Hating time limitGit good loser
>>721806585Git gone loser, this isn't your franchise any more.
>>721806546Go grind 10000 more different bloated materials anon
I don't like time limits cause I'm a completionist who wants to do everything and playing the time limit Atelier games while wanting to do everything is basically impossible without a guide and needing to use a guide is shit.
>>721806721You were supposed to play them multiple times which is why they had NG+ and had a single playthrough take half as long as the new games.
>>721806546Hating time limits is a sign of the tism.
>>721806721Great, so now you have to sink 200 hours in one game to see everything as opposed to just 30 hours in 2 playthroughs
>>721806710>>721806808Time limit tard blatantly exposing that he doesn't even play the games any more. Time limit cucks are the Trails in the Skyfags of Atelier. Seething, bitter schizos who linger on a franchise that has moved past them hating that other people are having fun with better games.>>721806795Liking time limits is a sign of autism. Most normal, non neuro divergent individuals don't enjoy constraints. Especially in a franchise that is supposed to be comfy. Time limits are the most diametrically apposed thing in existence to the word comfy.
>>721806895>Time limit tard blatantly exposing that he doesn't even play the games any moreProjecting this hard is a sign of autism anon
>>721778474They’re cartoons son. Get over it and move on.
>>721802413It can't be a flop when the budget for this is literally peanuts
>>721806808NTA but I've got the platinum trophy for every single Atelier game between Shallie and Yumia and I don't think even a single one took me more than 60 hours.
>>721807178Trophies =/= 100%
>>721807336It's basically what anyone means when they say 100%. Especially in a franchise like Atelier where there basically isn't anything else to do outside of the trophies. I would assume that's what that anon meant since that's what most completionist playing is.
>>721807418You can get plat on the timit limit games just fine without a guide. You'll miss out on some scenes just like how you'll miss some scenes in the non time limit games, you """"100%"""" them bothThe worst that can happen to you is if you play a game with a bullshit trap like Ayesha softlocking you from the true ending if you dare enter the point of no return too early
>>721807653Not in my experience. Getting the true ending requires getting the condition for every single ending at once which requires such an ungodly level of time minmaxing that you have to do it nearly perfectly or else you'll miss something. Even on NG+ it's annoyingly tight. Though I'll admit the only time limit games I've played are the Arland ones and I do hear they're the worst for this. The Dusk games are supposedly quite a bit easier.
>>721802098bros wtf I just want to play with a xbox controller and know which buton to pressfuck, i'll do it myself, how do i extract the texture files for buttons? it's unityshit, it should be easy right?
I'm playing Sophie 2 and I just beat the dragon that the knight fella wanted dead in the Dream Core, how far am I from the end now?
i've never played atelierany advice?
>>721809858you pick one and play it.there are no time limits in the modern ones so there is no possible way to lose
>>721809858You pick one of the older fun ones so you don't get tricked into playing DQ wannabes like Ryza or poor attempts at the survivalcraft slop genre like YumiaEither that or just pick the game of the girl that you find to be the cutest (Ayesha)
>>721809858The games are generally structured in trilogies and you want to start with the first game in a trilogy.
>>721800270Yeah, you did, that game doesn't even a native PS5 version.
ayoo is there music of the older atelier games in this new one??? i PIRATED and have a pretty limited picks such as Ryza 3 and Y*miashitI NEED muh Firis soundtrack
>>721776392Why is Ryza a furry now?
Who is canonically the strongest Atelier protagonist and why is it Sophie?
>>721810581Rorona casually bends space and creates life so i vote her. she was so powerful they had to turn her into an infant in the third game to prevent her from solving all the problems.
>>721810087ok that works for me, guess its time to emulate then
I really like Escha and Logy and feel like it doesn't get enough love.
How much male x female shipping is there in this game?
>>721811198not having Ayesha in it was a bizarre choice that i think hints that a lot of issues were going on with the devs behind the scenes. iirc wasn't GUST getting bought out while they were making that one?
>>721811250The game's cast is mostly past characters from a bunch of different games so as you can imagine shipping doesn't really work there so there is a grand total of 1 ship in the game which is between the 2 protagonists.
>>721811250from the things i've seen anons posting it seems the game can't go 5 minutes without talking about Rias and Slade fucking.
>>721811250It's basically just a more overtly romantic E&L
>>721810087>checking the wiki and steamok i dont know where to start
Since this game uses gacha assets is Sterk or femSterk in it?
>>721811351>>721811381>>721811437Nice. Just bought it.
>>721811683The games are bundled to buy in their trilogies so you can tell from that. You've got 4 choices really, Arland trilogy which the first game is Atelier Rorona. Dusk trilogy which the first game is Ayesha. Mysterious trilogy where the first game is Sophie and then obviously the Ryza trilogy which is pretty self explanatory>TL;DRRorona, Ayesha, Sophie or Ryza those are your 4 choices. You can find out where to go from there but these are generally your best starting points.
>>721781961no fucking way. JUDIE is in this???
>>721781961wasn't she hanging around with Keithgriff? what happened to that?
>>721790729I think there's a real "anime JRPG" fatigue. They are always the same, no one is interested in anymore. You can say the same for the recent Trails remake.
>>721807418>It's basically what anyone means when they say 100%You're correct that Atelier's plats are usually what most people would consider 100% completion, but only retards use 100% and plat interchangeably. Even ignoring that what 100% is can be subjective, there are cases like Type-0 HD where the plat doesn't cover even half of the story.
>>721811854That was a concern I had too going into it but I was glad to have that concern dispelled. I've seen too many JRPGs recently that just got absolutely fucking ruined by forcing in weird ship bait where every character needs to get with some other characters in the most forced and contrived way possible. Even Ryza did it to an extent.
>>721811880thank . there was just too much shit on both places to make sense to megoing to guess the cheapest one is the oldest one and where i should start
>>721814172Rorona > Ayesha > Sophie > Ryza is the release older except technically Marie is the oldest but htat's a remake. Rorona if you're fine with time limits and want to start from the oldest and Sophie if you want to skip to the trilogy that didn't have time limits or maybe Ayesha if you want a game that does have time limits but are much more relaxed and forgiving.
>>721814172I'm still mad they decomissioned the non-DX versions and had the gall to sell the same exact thing again
>>721814310i'll just accept timelimits, i'm not fine with them but whatever, thx
>>721814631What is even different about them?
>>721814973Nothing. That's the issue.
Did the Marie remake sell well enough to get them to remake the other old ones?
>>721814973Usually it's a way to get an old game onto a new platform by offering an enhanced rerelease with all the DLC. However, since they've started releasing games on Steam and consoles have more robust backwards compatibility this is no longer necessary. But they do it anyway and delist the originals in the process. This is especially egregious for Ryza DX since they are releasing on the same consoles (PS4 and Switch) instead of opting for the upgrade (PS5 and Switch 2). Instead they're adding new characters and extras. So if you want this new content for these 2-5 year old games, you need to buy the entire game again. On the same platform.
They really should just make the original resleriana offline. If they were planning a trilogy they are just cockblocking people from jumping onto this one for being linked to a gachaThat or make an anime for the basics
>>721816069Same with Yakuza, no free or just pay 10$ to update, it's another 60 or 80 guiles again. Nips should backpedal a little if they want more people to play their games
>>721815570>>721816069Damn. I'd probably be better off staying behind on these games then and just buying the new one when it gets a DX version.
>>721776392Literally me. No really, you import me into an Atelier world and I'm stealing all the fucking hats.
Bump
Maybe it's the ears but I really like El
>>721818152I would talk about it more but I'm waiting to pick it up next January when they've actually added the additional season pass content.
>>721819681
>>721800032
>>721812331>>721790729There's fatigue of literal bottom of the barrel trash that is just recycled assets, most likely. Shame that atelier is exactly that.Series always had a issue with reused content, but they just amped that up to the T lately. I've seen one image of a elite enemy and it was the fucking same old dullahan that's been used for longer than I can remember at this point. At some point I'd like to believe they would realize most games that do well usually have dev cycles longer than half a year, but it seems koei tecmo is happy to have atelier as literal shovelware.But it's crazy to say there's a fatigue of anime JRPGs, there hasn't been a single quality one in years. Closest to that has been unironically Expedition 33, and that did well.
>MC and FemC eyefucking each other as everyone tells them to get a room>exploring ancient ruins and helping to revive a small frontier townMan this is EschaLogy 2.0, this is great.
This game is a slog honestly, I wish we'd just go to Yumia 2
My girl Suelle and Lydie aren’t in the game…
>>721822943They're still releasing content for Yumia 1. The DLC isn't all out yet.
>>721822943They’re gonna make Yumia 2 a mobile gacha
>>721812063>>721812112she's a mini-quest later you can ask her to bring you an ingredient from time to time.
Sophie is in this game wow. Her voice actress must be so happy. She like Sophie so much.
This game is the typical low effort slop.Gust is fucking lost.
>>721776392As a fujo this game didn't really appeal to me compared to Yumia.
>>721822943Will probably be announced in the next several months after most people are done with this game, similar to how this was announced after Yumia.
>>721824226Same sis... but I also thought every party member in Yumia was hot as fuck
Illusionist (Witch) legs
>>721776392Willbell is still around? Nice.
I'm really liking her
>when you look at the sales of your game
>>721820784At this rate, Falcom might be the only Japanese company in a few years that will have anything remotely resembling a modern anime game (and even then, they're still reusing a lot of assets in their games). Tales is basically dead at this point. Anime IP games are trash. I guess there's Monolith Soft but those niggas are limited by the Switch hardware. Bandai is a shit company that won't do anything else with their other IPs like Scarlet Nexus.It's like they want China to rape them in the premium game space too in a few years and I fucking hate China.
Heterosexual romance alert!
Is it true that the alchemy in this game is inbetween Ryza and Yumia in terms of braindead simplicity?
>>721822943Why would you want more Yumia? It had the worst alchemy and worst combat the series has ever seen
>>721826412Falcom are the masters of yearly slop games with reused assets and PS3 graphics and PS2 quality animations, they have a dozen of games released in the last 5 years that all look exactly the same.
>>721827085The cast is fun and has chemistry
>>721825260>>721825994>that backgroundthis really couldn't run on a ps4?
>>721827269>he fell for itThat first image is from OG Ayesha (English dub only)
>>721827009Its similar to the gacha probably was meant to promote it but well you know, that doesnt really matter now outside of japan as its been shut down, shame too it was cute.
How long is this game for a normal person who wants to do everything?
Man I'm having so much fun with the game, I still need to finish Yumia and I'm dreading it. The open-world, the alchemy, the combat.I love the cast and the base-building, and shooting things. I hope Yumia 2 reworks the combat and alchemy.
>>721820784more like people are too old for these games and zoomers and alpha prefer gachas now
>>721827426>Its similar to the gachaI don't know anything about the gacha's alchemy.
>>721828392puzzle color chain elements
>>721828917sounds very simple
>>721813136I hate how Lulua was never sterk and rorona biological daughter. Such a waste
>>721776392Is it any good? i was thinking of buying it.
>>721828942It is, only 4 colors, 2-3-4 chains. Same for the shop.
>>721829061For me is an ok 7/10 at almost half the game. I don't think you'll like it if you are a hardcore fan of Atelier games.
>>721829078Guess I'll skip this one until it's on a deep discount then.
Ah these games are always so shitty I love them hahaha
Wow this thread couldn't even reach bump limit since I went to bed last night. No one likes this GAME. . .
>>721832476>No one likes this GAME. . .More like NO ONE knows about this fucking gameI'm here desperately searching for an answer on whether or not Ayesha is fucking playable or not. There's 0 info about the game
>>721832602I think they would have shown her in the cast of guest characters shown in promo images when they bragged about bringing in Sophie, Totori, and Wilbell.
The start of this games says it takes place after the Weltex attack in the gacha. Anybody can tell me which chapters those battles were in again?
>>721832783I know she's in the game, I've already encountered her. I just want to know whether she's fucking playable or not
>>721832905https://atelier.games/resleriana_rw/us/characters/rias.htmlonly the top row is playable
>>721833064Well, then I guess I'm taking a break from the game until the DLC comes outI was expecting the game to have like 20 playable characters at the very least, not goddamn 6. Wasn't that the whole gimmick of the gacha? They reuse so many fucking aspects of that shitty game and then proceed to fuck up the most important part
>>721833064>rose is playable but the protagonist of the last game isn'tthat's such a stupid move It's honestly hilarious. Well, it's clear they were going for a different audience, I suppose.
>>721833318why release with many characters when they can drip feed you additional characters for a year to fund development of more shovelware titles like Yumia
>>721833064>only 6 playable characters in a game reusing all the assets from the gacha where everyone was playable
>>721827269It has a PS4 version that wasn't released in the west.
>>721832903See? It's fucking confusing, you should never release a game based on a gacha
>>7218329039 iirc
>>721800572Alchemy hasn't been good since that goddamn n'wah left and took all the reality-altering secrets with it.
>>721834820At this point I'm wondering if it's supposed to be a glorified ad for the gacha with the English release just being incidental.
>>721833064This game has Raze??? The Mana Khemia 2 dude?
>>721835197Yeah, I'm surprised they even remembered Mana Khemia existed
>>721835483Very happy they remembered mana Khemia existed because it's one of my most favorite game but why such a boring choice in the game that has fucking Anna?
>>721835197lol is that the puni raze was talking about? what's the deal with it
>>721799268What the fuck is his problem?
>>721835875A dying brother
>yumia shillsKek, you lost
>>721835818The game has a girl who was raised by punis. That one should be one of her brothers I believe
randolf needs to fucking get laid so he mellows out
>try to jump on some rocks to get the first chest>get stuck between rocks without a way outfucking great start
>>721776392>weeb incels boughted this for $100 + tipactual legit mental illness
>>721777717>>721777772Golshi???
>>721780345Me on the left (and I'm only 3 months into HRT!).
>>721827496Bro most of us aren't done. How would we know? Someone keeps saying it takes 30 hours, could be pulling that out of his ass for all we know
Do I have to buy the damn dlc to get any music from other games at all?? Even if some other games had bgm dlc they still came with some in-game
>>721800923the principle of not demonizing normal male sexual desire
>play in 1080>switch output to 4k tv for a while>screenshots become 4k resolutionhuh, interesting quirk
Another mini-quest cameo
>>721837634
Why does this game changes my characters from first row to back row on its own?
>>721776392Is this game actually fun and do I need to know anything about the gacha before playing?
>>721820784>>721826412Atlus is the only company that still makes premium anime games/JRPGs. Everyone else either makes yearly slop (Falcoom, Gust, Furyu, Compile Shart etc) or moved to gachas years ago.
>>721838451where and how
>>721838692from the tweet i saw i assume it's from clearing the game but don't quote me on that
>>721838451Totori's boobs are too big
>>721838451Holy sexo
>>721838340Atlus makes vns every 10 years, the remakes look worse
>>721838340>Fatlus games>premiumlmao, what decade do you live in?
>>721838340>Games need to be made every 5 or 10 years Haha...
>>721839270Totori, much like King Kong, is still growing.
>400 moreuooh kinda alive game...
>>721838974>it's from clearing the gameugh they gonna make me play it all
i think my only complaint with this game is all of the text pop-ups being on the bottom left or bottom right of the screen. makes it very hard to parse all of the fucking dialogue and yapping bc it goes by so fast and i dont understand jap, oh well
Only shitter fairies in these dimensions. Triple A lads doko
>>721838451One piece swimsuits are a classic.
Did you guys meet Sophie in game yet
>>721844827Not yet as of part 4.
>>721845547Scam game.
>>721811198Escha & Logy was my first and therefore favorite. I know a lot of people don't look at it very fondly though
>>721843446Are the Shallies the most ignored modern Atelier MCs?
>>721810581Lulua manipulates time and space to make sure her new girlfriend doesn't die in every possible timeline which means she also cucks her childhood friend in every possible timeline too
>>721799268what did she look like before
>>721845968most people don't like their game so it's not surprising
>>721845968The other one was one of the very first party members you got in the gacha and stayed in mine for a good while too
>>721783203>Appealing to westernersRetard. He just looks like your average shoujo male, it's trying to appeal to Japs
>>721841723How much did sophie 2 reach
>>721846643She didn't change.
>>721847182I cant believe I was lied to
Welp was excited to play this but didn't realize a bunch of shit with this game isn't even releasing for a few months, guess I will wait.Should I start Sophie 1 DX or wait for Ryza DX?
>>721845968Fake fans are still butthurt because their game started the no time limit trend that still remains to this day (minus one failed attempt with firis flop)
>>721847564Pretty!
>>721847376Sophie 1 into Sophie 2
Mana Khemia was fucking awesome.Who did you pick, /v/? And why was it Pamela?
>>721848081I picked Flay because he was a good bro and back in the day not everything involving two male characters equaled to gay shit like today.
don't know anything about this entry because yumia was a massive wet fartis alchemy fixed?
>>721848238no
>>721848238yes
>>721848238Maybe
>>721848238It's better than both Yumia's and Ryza's alchemy but not as good as Sophie 2's alchemy.
>>721848486cool, I'll skip it thenthanks anon
>>721848081Nikki and Flay's endings were my favorites
>>721848224I did too, on accident. I didn't know I could only do one of those "final quests". Was a little upset as a 10 year old that I went the gay route desu.
>>721848558okay closeted faggot
>>721848081Flay is the only true choice, otherwise the world is doomed
breeding wilbell
>>721848691
No milf Ayesha in this game?
Finally met Totori. I guess Sophie last.
>>721849339Only small Ayesha
I want to touch the ears!
>>721848081Sword Puni. I distinctly remember her wrecking peoples' shit in combat and being funny with her Puni riding.
Fairies are illegal aliens, they must be deported
>>721849692>has fluffy ears>still molests other girl's earsRias is a menace
>>721849916The rabbit will fight back in other ways.
>>721849861Aliens have rights too.
Bump limit reached.
>>721850212
>>721850212Good thread
>>721850616
>>721850265Totori!