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how is digimon the only franchise that nintendo cannot touch?
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>>721891035
Digimon is a spinoff of Tamagotchi and both are owned by Bandai.
Bandai has anime, arcade and pachinko money, therefore Nintendo doesn't fuck with them.
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>>721891035
He was changed from red to brown because he resembled Agumon too much. Nintendo kneels to Digimon
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They fear Bandai Namco. Good
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>>721891035
>>721891939
>>721892098
>>721892217
Because nobody give a fuck about Digimon in the world that's why.
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>>721894357
digimon has superior anime and superior game

pokemon is boring toddler shit
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>>721891939
This and Nintendo knows their patent trolling will not work on Vpets.
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this is my wife please be kind
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>>721891939
Bandai Namco are literally working closely together in many things
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>>721891035
do they need to?
not like digimon ever set the world on fire
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>>721894956
She's cute.
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Tyrannomon was the first designed digimon.
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This is the earliest concept art for pokemon. Imagine taking these two to a judge and telling them they're different.
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>>721895716
>>721895808
I'm so fucking happy how true the Digimon artstyle is to the original.
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>>721891035

Because they don't care about Digimon.

>>721892217

They're on good terms with them. So much that they let them make 2 Pokemon games and Pokemon themed Tamagotchi
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For me it's Numemon.
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>>721894956
THIS is your wife?
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Have you invested in her frog stonks?
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>watermark slop
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>>721897914
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>>721891035
Time Stranger is going to be incredible.
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>>721899176
I dunno, I played the demo and it felt a bit underwhelming
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We need more toku themed mons.
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>>721891035
why would they? they have nothing against them and they're good pals.
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>>721891035
>no good game in over 2 decades
>The majority of the anime series are shit
>vpets have just been retools of the oldest ones and overpriced for what you get
>the last 2 new models of vpets have been objectively shit (the ; one and VB)
>remember ADVENTURE?! over and over
>model kits are overpriced HG that has a fucking lack of color correction for what you pay for
>tcg is alright but is kicked down by bandai in favor of every other of their IPs
Because bamco is good at killing their own IP without anyone needing to lift a finger. Only man children like you and I keep it alive.

>>721897914
How well does it hold the print? Im too scared to use mines because im afraid of the prints being easily scuffed.
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>>721899465
>no good game in over 2 decades
Really dude?
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>>721899176
I just hope that the midgame starts to actually be a challenge. Cyber sluts was a snore fest most of the way except for when I ran into one mega boss with a team of ultimates. Didn't get caught with my pants down after that though.
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>>721895861
digital card battle. really fun card game. lots of options for decks
>rookie power fire deck
>anti-fire blue control deck with red altars to fuck up your opponent, O to 0 cards, some green cards to quickly rack up DP
>special digivolve abuse blue deck (use C stage cards, HP to 0 cards to stall). U stage blue cards are incredibly bulky
>crash drain deck (suicidal attacks, then drain your opponents for the damage inflicted)
>yellow warp digivolve deck. mamemon and metalmamemon are ideal for this. yellow has some of the best support effects in the game
>etc. etc.
be sure to get the patch for the US version that fixes a few card effects
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>>721895716
I'm so fucking upset they done my nigga evo line dirty in favor of fugly kizunaslop
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>>721897317
>it resembled the character of another company (agumon from digimon)
>it's true
fucking grim
>>721899174
fuck you too
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>>721891035
Digichads are untouchable because women hate cool things. Little baby faggot pokeman baby toys make women molesters because women only have power over those weaker than them.
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>>721898974
Sorry, that's my wife actually.
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>>721899543
i hope TS has more challenging optional minibosses like that chaosdramon in the demo.
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I'm positive on TS. Not hyped necessarily, but I think it's going to be a good time all things considered.
PS: Do not the rookies.
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>>721899465
Yeah be careful with it. Got a hard case for it and getting it into the case was so tight it actually scuffed the side a bit.
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Cozy
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>>721899537
The nds games and cyber slut are not great.
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>another shitposting Digimon thread
I hate how anti-Nintendo niggers are infecting everything I like.
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>>721900482
okay.
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I want to become tamer so I can huff crotcho gato.
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>>721900360
That's sad to hear that it got scuffed. I have the godzilla one coming in soon and preorder the xros one so now im even more worried about playing with them.
>>721899537
I never trusted /vitagen/ ever again after buying cyber shit.
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>>721899176
Combat looks like shit, like its literally just a bit better than cyber sluts
Im hyped for the farm and card game aspects though, if the overworld is really sovlful like the starting city is then I think the game will probably be a treat to hardcore digifags like me. At least theres a 5x speed for the shit combat I guess.
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>>721899174
Every God damn time
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What is happening to my Ophanimon!?
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>>721899465
>Im too scared to use mines because im afraid of the prints being easily scuffed.
Just take out the screen and hit it with some topcoat.
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>>721891035
When is the Digimon online card game launching? That was the one news I was interested in.
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>>721901446
>Just take out the screen and hit it with some topcoat.
Good idea. I really should, I have some matte topcoat that I havent used in a decade lying somewhere. Masking the screen/buttons/contacts 12 times in a row will be annoying but itll protect the prints.
>>721901758
No exact date yet.
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>>721891035
Anon, Nintendo was literally going to buy Bamco but couldn't due to Japanese law which is how they got Monolith Soft as a consolation prize.
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>First reveal overshadowed by a Nintendo Direct a day later
>demo overshadowed by a Direct a day later again
>Comes out in the middle of a steam sale
>Pokemon comes out 4 days after
This game is gonna need the shilling /v/ gave fortnight to succeed.
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>people who like Digimon
hipsters
>people who like Pokemon
normalfags

You're welcome.
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>>721902140
Would that make you a nigger then?
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>>721902140
hipsters are not even a thing anymore
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>>721902140
Do people still say hipster nowadays?
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>>721902364
We just call them contrarians.
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>>721902140
in other breaking news, fire hot
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>>721894597
>digifags believe this
grim
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>>721897317
>Because they don't care about Digimon.
pokemon company doesn't even care about pokemon except how much money it can make them.
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>>721894597
>game (singular)
Telling.
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>Greymon
>Is orange
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>>721902364
The things hipsters got into become normalfag shit so now being hipster is obsolete because it's just being a normalfag.
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>>721902636
I mean, it's not hard to make something better than pokemon in either anime or games.
Monster rancher mogged both
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>>721902140
why do i have to pick one or the other?
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>>721902870
Happy now?
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digimonfags sure are pitiful.
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>>721903414
Don't you have a wolverine game to shill?
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>>721903347
That actually looks really nice.
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>>721894663
It's funny how Digimon was labeled the biggest of the pokemon rip-offs, yet its main gameplay makes it arguably the most separate from it.
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>>721903414
we got the better cats
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>>721903996
>digimon [is a] pokemon rip-off
nobody worth talking to says this. digimon predates pokemon
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>>721904098
It doesn't tho, the first Digimon v-pets came out the year after Red & Blue released
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>>721903996
>yet its main gameplay makes it arguably the most separate from it
let's see, the main gameplay in these two franchises about collecting and evolving teams of monsters hmmm...
POKEMON
>you give your mon a command
>it does it
>opponent's turn
>they give their mon a command
>it does it
>repeat
DIGIMON
>you give your mon a command
>it does it
>opponent's turn
>they give their mon a command
>it does it
>repeat

WOW so different, very good point anon they're practically different genres I literally cannot even imagine comparing these, it's like apples to hand grenades
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>>721904362
>Red & Blue
Red & Green came before that.
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>>721891035
Nintendo and Bandai are on good terms, just like how SMT is still safe, Sega/atlus are on good terms with them aswell. This whole patent shit really is just going to affect Pocket Pair since they partnered with Sony and Nintendo wants to eradicate the last possible remnants of what Sony have left in the Japanese market.
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>>721891035
Grandfathered, Digimon has existed so long alongside Pokémon so it wouldn't work to complain about it now.
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>>721904481
>DIGIMON
>>you give your mon a command
>>it does it
>>opponent's turn
>>they give their mon a command
>>it does it
>>repeat
Secondary "fan" detected.
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>>721900349
If they're reborn or devolve from a higher stage then it's fine to do the rookie.
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Btw doesn't Nintendo only own 30% of Pokémon?
That's what they said back when Pokémon Go caused investors to buy a bunch of Nintendo stocks.
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>>721901020
I just noticed but howcome Beelzemon has blueish skin but Beelstarmon has normal skin?
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>>721904796
Yo know what. I'll accept that technicality.

>>721905017
Beelzemon is an actual demon, Beelstarmon is a chick in cosplay.
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>>721891035
did this really win awards at tgs? will the next digimon game actually be good?
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>>721900176
i'm surprised more women don't want to fuck the garurumon line and myotismon
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>>721905017
because she was originally designed to look like a woman cosplaying beelzebumon
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>>721900176
nigga the only digimon tcg players I know irl are women....
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>>721905017
maybe it's because she's just a slut in cosplay??? the eye in the helmet is fake too
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>>721905017
She's a cosplay slut.
I know a lot of Digimon are cosplay sluts so it might not be immediately obvious.
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>>721900710
wanna know the worst part of it?
hacker's memory in japan included the original cyber sluts. bamco took the latter out for the western release for some reason, then delisted cyber sluts worldwide because fuck you lol
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>>721904481
digimon is pretty weird though and there isnt really a main series, in the first world game your digimon just kinda do their own thing then world 4 you play as digimon
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is there a way to make a digimon game that matches the vibes of the original series?
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>>721905684
no and there shouldn't be one because fuck you and fuck adventure
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>>721905827
why so hostile...
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>>721905684
Digimon World 1 but with other annoying kids taking screentime?
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>>721905684
Make Kenji Watanabe supervise its art direction, humans being kenji watanabe styled and the colors/aesthetics of the setting matching his general grunge look would go a long way.
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>>721905684
you mean the shitty Adventure game for the psp?
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>>721905684
>matches the vibes of the original series?
what do you mean by that? if you mean the anime, pic related exists but I think its only in japanese, survive as well but thats mostly a visual novel
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>>721905684
By original series do you mean V tamer, the original vpets/Digimon World, or Adventure?
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>>721905996
>>721906006
i was sort of picturing the feeling of being lost in a weird alien world and having to explore and figure out just wtf is going on with your party
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>>721906006
>its only in japanese,
im pretty sure there's a fan patch for that
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>>721905440
>then delisted cyber sluts worldwide because fuck you lol
I expect nothing less from those jews.
>>721906006
There's a fantl for it.
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>>721895380
bro... youre not supposed to repost
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would you want to see this gameplay style revisited?
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>>721906063
>being lost in a weird alien world and having to explore and figure out just wtf is going on with your party
survive but again thats mostly a visual novel with some srpg bits tacked on
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>>721891035
What are you talking about? There have been several Digimon games that are Nintendo exclusives.
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Will someone ever make a nude Gabumon mod for Time Stranger?
>>721906136
Yes unironically, needs refinement but Devil Survivor Digimon has potential.
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>>721899174
NOOOOOOO
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>>721906265
i think he means suing them
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>>721903996
>yet its main gameplay makes it arguably the most separate from it.
If you're talking about the story games then no.
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>>721906220
oh yeah, i really wanted to like survive man. most disappointed i have been with a game in a long time. the srpg gameplay was such a slog
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>>721904663
>This whole patent shit really is just going to affect Pocket Pair since they built a company on stealing from other developers
Ftfy.
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>>721906136
Sure. Why not.
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>>721891035
which edition should I buy? be honest please
no bullshit
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>>721900710
Better for the side to be scuffed than the front imo. Just need to avoid taking and putting it into the case too often so once I'm 100% done with the ver 20, it's going back into storage.
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>>721906136
I'm still pissed that guilmon is completely unavailable in game.
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>>721906542
Do you care about cosmetic costumes your MC, main heroine and first stage partner digimon can wear? If not just get the version that grants you access to the season pass and preorder black digimon dlc.
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>>721906440
>. the srpg gameplay was such a slog
????????? its so piss easy though, its way to fucking fast
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>>721894956
>Mummymon posts here.
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>>721906628
I don't.
But the steam page says it contains Additional Digimon Pack (1, 2, 3)
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did anyone here play rumble arena 2? that was me and my friends favorite game as a kid because we only had a ps2 so we could never play smash.
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>>721895380
>a couple Ghost Game episodes have Digimon become suicidal because they will never become human and be with their love
>Arukenimon switches from Digimon to human with ease
They hate her 'cause they ain't her.
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>>721906695
Jesus, I didnt remember how evil myotismon was
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>>721906681
i just meant that it was really fucking boring
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>>721894956
>>721900197
t. Mummymon
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>>721906709
Yeah that's the season pass dlc, will be 3 batches of 5 mega digimon each. Honestly for a single player game I don't see this sort of dlc mattering much, unless there's some sort of expansion to the story, you'll probably be done with the game by the time they come out.
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>>721894357
Nah. Digimon is slowly growing to the point that it is getting better games, better anime and overall better everything while Nintendo is too busy wasting money on lawsuits instead of using all of this to make better games.
>>721902140
That is utterly retarded.
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>>721906798
All things considered even looking at that it's not as bad as some other Digimon villains.
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>>721903518
Hoping this Greymon is in fact in Time Strangers...or at least as a DLC.
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>>721906867
Honestly? You're right. I'll creamapie their asses. Fuck Bamco and this jewish practice.

Thank you, anon-sama.
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>>721906604
They sell the pre-order DLC now for $3.
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0700-CUSA18223_00-DIGIMONSURVIVEMB
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digimon world humbled my ass as a kid, that game fucked me up
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is there a list of digimon in time stranger?
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>>721907024
Yeah this sort of dlc only works if there's an online pvp component to make you want to test out the new digimon but for a single player game? You're likely not going to replay it for a long time and by then it'll probably go on sale.
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>>721906136
I buy anything with Digimon in its name.

Yes, they should try again the SRPG gameplay, they should also try again the Visual Novel gameplay (and just remove the gay ass SRPG gameplay, the visual novel was good enough). I also want a new take on the Digimon World 2 dungeon crawler roguelite gameplay.
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>>721906069
Yep. A complete fan-translation.
>>721906136
Yep. With further polish and some additions.
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>>721906910
>better anime
ehhh, tri was ass, I liked kizuna but its reception seems mixed, colon was ass, ghost game was interesting, and last evolution was pretty weird. I mean digimon definitely exists again but I dont know about better everything
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>>721907174
i really like the idea of a digimon hades-like game where you can digivolve into different mons on each run
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>>721894956
I wish for Arukenimon and Mummymon to live happily together.
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>>721907290
>I liked kizuna
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>>721907290
At least Digimon never had its main character loosing for years damn leagues or be a moron who talks about becoming the best but instead does shit. Probably the writers realized how stale that was and actually gave Ash/Satoshi some actual character development which actually finally let him win a fucking league before they decided to reboot the Pokemon anime.
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>>721907290
Problem with Kizuna is that the entire premise is pointless as the 02 epilogue will never ever be non canon so any emotional impact it tries to aim for is empty as everyone fucking knows it'll eventually have to be undone off screen.
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>>721894956
Good taste
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>>721907290
it really upset me how much the adventure reboot was focused on taichi wank when the entire appeal of the original show was that it was an ensemble who all got developed and had their big moments
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>>721907606
>At least Digimon never had its main character loosing for years damn leagues or be a moron who talks about becoming the best but instead does shit.
thats really not an issue and desu I liked that about pokemon, when everyone and their mom has the same dream its gonna be hard to reach that
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>>721906923
True, but what makes it worse is that at this point Arukenimon and Mummymon had become like Jessie and James from Pokemon, they were bad and you didn't want them to win, but for their own boss to so casually merk them after we got to know them... its sad. Like, imagine if Giovanna got his hands on Mewtwo and ordered it to Mind Crush the Rocket Trio?
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>>721907101
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TfV-n7XnBxIiOYieuGrS931HOVey1SehjRasgmCI7OM/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0
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>>721902140
Both companies are run by literal retards.

Digimon every 2 years a new digimon game should come out with a different gameplay than the previous one. There should be multiple dedicated digimon teams that produce non-stop digimon games. The dev cost would be split in two since theycan use the same engine, models, and technology on both sets of games, so they don't need to recreate Agumon every time.

Pokemon is the same shit, everyone knows Gamefreak is a fucking retard.
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>>721907651
That reboot was a fucking mess production wise because of covid. Even Yamato's actor caught it which meant he couldn't fucking come to record any lines for a period of time.
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>>721906695
Why did the kids just stand there and watch?
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>>721906995
I doubt it since im sure bamco doesnt want to pay royalties to toho.
>>721907290
I like kizuna too but you have to ignore the whole shitshow of 02, which isnt hard considering how it isnt even consistent with adventure.
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>>721907606
>At least Digimon never had its main character loosing for years
Tai's girlfriend was impregnated by his best friend while he was busy at work.
Tai lost.
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>>721906910
>Digimon is slowly growing to the point that it is getting better games, better anime and overall better
If you genuinely believe that then your standards are hideously low. I mean you're only focusing on the game and anime, the latter which is still worse than games like SMT, DQM and even pokemon all around, of the three it only beats SMT in one category, monster count and V looks way better than TS.
The anime I can't say anything about because I haven't watched the pokemon anime in years and the others don't have one but Ghost Game despite the animation being good at times was ruined by it's "the danger will be here in 1000 years!" ending.
Merch, Digimon comes in second by virtue of being a toy franchise from the start but pokemon still pumps out way more and for way more pokemon. I can buy myself a Darumaka, Darmanitan and Liligant plush but I'm still waiting on a Ulforceveedramon anything, I only have his deck and that's it. Granted I have a Magnamon, Paildramon and two Imperialdramon but still. They aren't even taking the opportunity to recolor them, Amped Virus Metal or a slightly tweaked Shine Greymon Burst Mode would be genius but no, bamco doesn't like giving the fans what they want.
The TCG is also very dire, with One Piece and Dragonball not only taking from the Digimon TCG but getting all of the support all we have coming out is a shoddy mobile game.
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>>721907606
There are seriously people who hate Ash for not being a stoic aura farming hype merchant.
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>>721907825
They are kids. What do you expect them to do? They're out of mana.
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Because

Digimon
>Staff said very explicitly from the start to not copy Pokémon, do their own thing, have a focus on original content. Digimon like Monjyamon and Etemon are based on real life Bandai staff. The virtual pets are an extension of Tamagotchi, the games took years to get any RPGs and were extensions of the pet-raising genre as well as card games, and the games weren't even on Nintendo platforms until later in the GBA's life cycle. They were primarily WonderSwan and PlayStation games before that.

Palworld
>Staff said from the very beginning "Make this like Pokémon so we'll make a lot of money, and give it guns for novelty".

I respect Digimon, I don't respect Palworld. I don't respect Pokémon either for that matter, but one is equivalent to a Chinese knockoff.
And you're forgetting SMT and DQM.
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>>721907606
>At least Digimon never had its main character loosing for years damn leagues or be a moron who talks about becoming the best but instead does shit
You're saying that like every series hasn't followed the same general story beats. How many times has the main character had a mon dark digivolve for instance?
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>>721907621
>Problem with Kizuna is that the entire premise is pointless as the 02 epilogue
i dunno man, I cried when my brother went to college its not like he was dying but knowing I woudnt see him for a while sucked, I think the movies premise worked fine
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>>721907879
It's funny how much people hate Sora even years later. Like seriously she's always the least favorite Adventure character.
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>>721903996
>It's funny how Digimon was labeled the biggest of the pokemon rip-offs
I've never seen anyone say this for Digimon. They may have said that for Yokai Watch and Palworld, but I don't think I've seen Digimon and Pokemon compared like that. I might have thought that at first when I was a snot-nosed little shit who saw '-mon' in their names. Yet that quickly went away watching an episode of the anime and learning what a Digimon actually was.
>>721902140
>people who like Digimon
People who have seen a Digimon design they like
>people who like Pokemon
People who have seen a Pokemon design they like
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>>721908006
>Because
>Digimon
>>Staff said very explicitly from the start to not copy Pokémon
??
Digimon came out first.
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>>721899062
Maybe...
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>>721904481
Digimon is the hand grenade, right?
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>>721908039
Adventure, Tamers, Savers, Colon, Tri, Ghost Game are the only anime series with dark evos, half of which are fucking ADOBENCHA retreads and in the last case the Dark Evo was the main villain and had nothing to do with the Tamer's dark emotions.
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>>721908187
Yes anon, 97 definitely happened before 96.
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>say new one is like SMT
>no evil/chaos path where you can join the evil/fallen digimon
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>>721908056
desu she got the least stuff to do in the original series. and also she was the most subdued personality so she didn't stand out next to your mimis or your koushiros (also the 02 ending ofc)
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>>721908404
CS was pretty blatant with how Yuuko was lawfag, Arata was chaosfag and Nokia the neutralfag but ultimately they all joined Nokia in her neutralfaggotry.
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>>721908187
The first Digimon v-pet came out in June 1997 and was by design intended to be a Tamagotchi for boys, with Tamagotchi being released in November 1996.
The first Pokémon games were Pocket Monsters Red and Green, released for the Game Boy in February 1996. They were actually finished development in 1995 and meant for a Christmas release but got pushed back, and they had began development as early as 1990.

In North America, Pokémon only hit in September 1998, with some months of lead-up and anticipation. It took 2.5 years to get it out of Japan, by which point it already had four mainline games, a trading card game, a TV anime, a movie for that anime, and countless pieces of merchandise. The first Digimon v-pet was released in North America in 1997, and it took until 1999 for it to get any of that other stuff.
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Just wanted to share that Kabuterimon is my favorite mon. He looks scary as fuck and that's cool to me. I like bug-type digimon, in general.
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>>721908547
Thanks, chatGPT.
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>>721906867
>expansion to the story
Probably? The season pass mentions 'additional episode' as well as 5 digimons per pack.
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>>721908556
i really like how viscerally gross a lot of the original digimon are. i was always a huge fan of andromon because its really fucked up looking
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>>721908556
And yet, you don't like bug-type pokemon. Curious.
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>>721908556
he looks evil
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>>721908278
Did you forget 02 where the Digimon Kaiser captured Agumon and forced him to Dark Digivolve on no less than three separate occasions?
Happened in Digimon Next too with Yuu.
The spirit of darkness being corrupted in frontier counts.
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>>721899062
i restarted the demo to pick gomamon
i devolved my gomamon and re-evolved him into a gizamon
i am as ready as i can be (without pre-grinding her required stats and trivializing the game)
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>>721907879
Kari was impregnated by Izzy?
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>>721899062
>>721908252
I was a believer before anyone cared about her
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>>721908663
i loved pinsir but his fucking moveset was DIRE. by the time gamefreak got off their ass and actually properly implemented decent bug-type attacks i had grown out of official pokemon games
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>>721908756
I read Digimon Next and I don't remember this page at all. I do remember the ending being rushed as fuck but that was the case for V-Tamer too because Digimon fell off the planet in 2003.
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I'm not buying the game until /v/ confirms the game is more like Hacker's Memory and less like Cyber Slut.

Cyber Slut sucked major ass and the only redeeming moment was that one scene where the edgy friend starts punching women left and right. That was hilarious.

Hacker's Memory on the other hand, it was a rollercoaster of a story and I loved it.
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>>721908663
Who says I don't? My favorite bug pokemon is Beedrill and/or Mega Beedrill.
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>>721908927
nothing sucks, you're just a jaded incel. funny you claim digimon media sucks while posting gundam shittery, the king of bad media.
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Betsumon origins
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>>721891035
Digimon literally came first.
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>>721909039
he cute
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>>721909009
Of course it fucking sucks, it doesn't stop sucking just because you have no standards.
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can (you) buy me time stranger? ill draw you anything
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>>721909039
Don't look for the origins of Etemon nor Pilevolcamon
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>>721909039
>betsumon is supposed to be a woman
HUH?
why the fuck does betsumon have a visible erection a ballsack???
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>>721909123
>muh standards
I knew from the get go you were an incel
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>>721909058
Why are you doing this nonsense?
Anyone with sense will just Google it.
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>>721909179
Because they thought it'd be funnier if a dude tried to do it.
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for me its shellmon
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>>721909173
Digimonkey is love and I wish there were better pictures of him. He's a secret boss in Ver. S, and I've emulated it, but I didn't know how to alter the system clock at the time.
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>>721909009
Case in point, can't even register brown white noise anymore, but when the actual content isn't worth it makes me want to drop it altogether.
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>>721908815
I disliked Renamon because every time I tried to talk about Ranamon everyone was always thinking on the fucking yellow fox
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>>721909224
>unironically admitting you eat any shit if it has a brand you like on it
Not the gotcha you thought that was.
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>>721891035
Because they dont infringe on nintendos patents I guess
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>>721891035
They are untouchable until Shit-tendo decides to do a bitch move and make a patent about creatures/monsters that hatch from eggs.
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>>721909308
Outside of the first movie, this guy had the first moment of decent animation in the slideshow that was Adventure, but it's only like a second long.
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>>721909373
they do actuallly
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>>721908756
Agumon was mind controlled and made to fight the 02 cast
The corrupted spirit of darkness doesn't count since it's a similar situation with Agumon in 02 where they're brainwashed rather than being the result of the Tamer's dark emotions

>Digimon Next
Even if you include the other Mangas and Seekers it's not as many with Dark Evos.
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>>721909421
Anon, even if Nintendo patents an egg hatching mechanic they wouldn't be able to use that to go after the concept.
How are you people still making this mistake?
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>>721906136
I'd want it improved.
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>>721899062
wait does this game have all the frontier villains? can i finally use that funny ass troll digimon
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The IDEA of an emperor in 02 was good. The execution was bad because 02's cast sucked ass.
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>>721891035
Because Scamco also owns a shitton of random patents that they can use against Nintendo. Every big company do.
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>>721908278
Yeah Gulus being the original Gammamon who became an innocent retard thanks to amnesia was a fun subversion of the dark evo tradition. Only needed his tamer's negative emotions for the sake of evolving even further.
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>>721909569
Anon...
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>>721909723
sad... one day i'll get grumblemon in a game
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>>721909606
Actually the execution itself was pretty good, hence why most people think of the digimon emperor arc being the best arc in 02.
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>>721909421
Anon, why would they do that when Bandai makes tons of official merchandise for Pokémon?
https://www.bandai.co.jp/character/pokemon.php
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>>721909446
Anon, they're still dark evolutions you could even have Dark Volumon in Xros or even Appolomon Whispered.
Then there's Wendigomon in Hurricane touchdown and everything in survive. Dark evolution is a used and abused mechanic in Digimon, it's fucking everywhere.
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>>721909569
...only has Ranamon, her calamari form and the ancient version of the mirror guy (AncientWisemon). You're better off praying for the chinese digital world to get a full game because that's the only way you could force the devs to actually include every single fucking warrior 10 related digimon due to Susanoomon's importance in the setting.
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>>721909774
*Grottomon
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>>721909514
Dunno fag, this is a game board and not everyone here is used to be sued for patents to know all that legal shit.
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Thoughts on Urvamon, the waifu digimon in BeatBreak?
She's this anime's Renamon.
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>>721909913
i'm a filthy dubfag who grew up with it and hasn't seen frontier since i was a child
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>>721909872
>Dark Volumon in Xros
That was Ballistamon's original form before getting amnesia
>Whispered and Wendigomon
Corrupted by viruses.
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>>721891035
There are Digimon games on Switch, so they'd lose money. Digimon games have also been on Nintendo hardware since 2003.
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>>721909831
Bandai make toys too.
>Welp, thats news for me.
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>>721909831
Bandai gets more money with pokemon license than digimon, think about that for a minute.
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>>721909989
is the show already out?
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>>721910013
If Gulus counts then so does Dark Volumon.
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Ice Devimon was the most shameless filler in all of Frontier
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>>721910013
>Corrupted by viruses.
Not in Survive, Wendigomon was just a regular ass dark evo in that.
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>>721910150
first episode was shown a week early at an event IIRC some clips of it were shared by the studio.
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>>721910172
DarkVolumon isn't the result of negative emotions being brought out, it is literally just Ballistamon regaining their memories.
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>>721909173
Surprisingly few images of him
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>>721891035
nintendo can only bully small fry, like fuck it'll go to war with another fuckhuge japanese toy company
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>>721909989
He looks like 2000s failed mascot character (affectionate)
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>>721891035
its too old for that isn't it? if they tried to sue them now, an argument could be made that any patents are no longer enforceable because they're suing something that's been around for 30 years.
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>>721909989
looks like shit lol
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>>721910359
>He
WRONG
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>>721909989
I remember retards said Chiropmon is the only female mons in BB cast.
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>>721909989
It evolving to fight a Funbeemon isn't a good sign. Looks like it'll job to anything and everything.
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>>721910332
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>>721910501
Chiropmon is male though and Pristimon was literally described as a fucking onee-san type character.
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>>721894956
Post her armpits
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>>721909514
Even if true. it's still a retarded shit eating move.
Trump needs to nuke japan 40 more times.
japan has zero honor.
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>>721894956
Shes rideable in time stranger
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>>721897317
It doesn't even look that much like him unless you're painting with such broad strokes as "orange dinosaur." I see "Dejimon no Agumon" though.
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>>721902140
>>people who like Pokemon
>normalfags
manchildren at this point
people have picked up on how badly modern pokemon stinks
>>721905684
Yes. Digimon Adventure (PSP)
also worth considering: digimon data squad (ps2) aka digimon savers: another mission. wish there was an undub mod though
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>>721909173
Volcamon still does voice acting for Digimon. He's Mercurymon in Time Stranger. I cant tell if he's fat or muscular.
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>>721910013
>Corrupted by viruses.
>unironic dubfag
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>>721910849
>I cant tell if he's fat or muscular.
Probably both.
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>>721909803
I think the final cour is best (Christmas Eve to New Year's), a lot of my favorite character moments appear then. The Digimon Kaiser is good conceptually, it just goes on for a while, but episode 8 is exactly what Daisuke needed as a character. He was always so brash and dumb, butting heads with the equally strong-willed Miyako, or Takeru because he saw him as a rival for Hikari's affections (even when Takeru wasn't pursuing her). But he looks up to Ken as an amazing soccer player his age, and even when he loses, he can only feel respect. The most he could do was slightly injure his shin.

Ken at this point, however, is a sore loser, and won't let that injury go. As the Digimon Kaiser, he kidnaps everyone but Daisuke and makes Daisuke think he's going to kill them all unless he begs and grovels on the ground for their lives. V-mon starts to defiantly talk back, but Daisuke stops him and immediately does as he's asked. Ken tells V-mon to step on Daisuke's head, and V-mon won't, but Daisuke tells him to do it. In the end, Ken decides to break his promise to hurt Daisuke even more, but the hostages are revealed to be disguised Bakemon, and Daisuke's friends are safe. Daisuke gets into a fight with the Kaiser and sees the leg injury, realizing who he is. Ken reveals himself, and Daisuke is upset that the kid he looked up to would do this.

Daisuke is also the only person willing to give Ken a chance later on. He goes from being a brat to a genuine friend. 02 really hammers in that these kids are all friends who spend their free time with each other, while Adventure's kids are together by circumstances and have their own social standings.
Taichi knows Sora through soccer, they're friends enough
Hikari is Taichi's sister, becomes part of the same friend group as Takeru in 02
Yamato is a loner
Takeru is Yamato's brother, separated through divorce
Joe is older than everyone
Mimi has her own friends
Koshiro keeps to himself, but becomes friends with Taichi
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>>721906136
I really wish this game didn't absolutely suck. The visual novel portion was boring as hell, and the SRPG gameplay just wasn't that interesting either. Dropped this shit maybe a little after the fight at the dam or bridge or whatever. I just couldn't be fucked to keep playing something so damn boring.
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>>721908556
I love how he looks like a buf xenomorph.
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>>721906695
>Digimon have no gender
>"I went easy because she's a woman!"
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>>721910960
And yet you would post the most boring ass fucking shit on 4chan everyday. Curious
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>Villain's main motivation is that he's an incel and he's angry that his love interest would rather date people who look like her instead of him
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>>721910013
There's no explanation for what happened to Chocomon in Japanese, the movie is more about growing up and moving on, you can't recapture the past. Kizuna takes some inspiration from this and also from the story of the real life kid who inspired the Digimon Kaiser, who they used as the inspiration for Menoa. And of course there are homages to much of the original Adventure and first two movies.
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>>721906136
I like top down view more than isometric view but yeah, if they actually develop more the gameplay it would be cool.
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>>721911240
HE'S LITERALLY ME!!!
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>>721911240
He also spams threads with
>she looks like she fucks beast digimon
Whenever an attractive female humon is posted.
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>>721910906

He's kinda handsome now...
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>>721910185
The fucking Christopher Walken impression he got in the dub. I don't remember, but I think he might have been Norio Wakamoto in Japanese? I have to check.

Either way, he's a pacing killer.
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>>721910332
I don't think I've ever seen it confirmed, but I think the reason that Etemon has a Monzaemon hanging from his hip and has lore tied to it probably has to do with Digimonkey battling kids during Japanese v-pet tournaments in the early years, and Monzaemon was the strongest Digimon in the beginning, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was using it.
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>>721908980
That looks badass but it's hardly Pokémon. If I saw this in the wild I'd assume it was some kind of mecha or Mega-Man enemy, but with more of a Medabots style, but not quite. It's unique and I really like it.
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>>721911654
Back then there weren't any vaccine/data/virus types so yeah that'd make sense.
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>>721911168
Renamon was just autistic, please understand.
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https://humulos.com/digimon/partner/

wtf how did it know i was a NEET?
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>>721902864
I think he meant game with the ladies
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>>721911717
>but it's hardly Pokémon
What does that even fucking mean? It doesn't fit any other aesthetic other than pokemon.
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>>721911883
Digimon understands what's at the core of you.
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>>721910849
https://files.catbox.moe/071ma0.webm

I love it when I see him do a voice in the anime
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>>721911883
this would make a good rookie
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>>721911883
grim
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>>721894357
trvke
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>>721906695
>Archemon get butchered on every appearance.

People complain about Leomon but that's worse.
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>>721906136
yes. it just needs serious fixing. e.g.
>digimon take too long to jump and climb down
>melee units are garbage (put themselves in the middle of the fray to attack and quickly get focused down, basically guaranteed to get backstabbed next turn, exposed to counters, ranged units are just as tough and have high mobility. e.g. angewomon, gigadramon, and etemon blow weregarurumon out of the water)
>ranged AoE is too powerful. makes single-target skills irrelevant
>AoE moves that buff you shouldn't buff per target hit. that shit takes boltboutamon from -4 stacks from +2 (i.e. like a 50% damage boost). plus IIRC THE BUFFS APPLY BEFORE DAMAGE CALCULATION
>stacking damage multipliers are insane (positioning, support, buffs, element effectiveness, element boosts, critical)
>guarding becomes useless mid-game (any digimon can easily move 2 spaces to the side and bypass your 50% damage reduction completely)
>FIX THE UI (seriously, equipping a single fucking learning crystal requires you to scroll down past like 40 skills. also, you should be able to feed multiple stat-boosting items to a single mon in one go)
some advice:
>bosses just stand there and let you take your time and heal up. this leads to lopsided 6v1 battles where you take 6 turns every for time the boss moves. you might want to do something about this
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>>721894597
trvke
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>>721912063
Hey now. Dokunemon's invisibility is great.
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>>721912037
Didn't work, trying this
https://files.catbox.moe/73pbq8.mp4
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>>721912378
JAPANESE CARS ARE GREAT
MADE IN JAPAN IS REALLY GREAT
YEEEEHAAWWWW
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>>721911240
blame satan, he's the one who twisted him
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Why have I never seen a Digimon game tier list
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>>721912669
Because too many are Japanese only, there's no "main series", and it would be like putting Pokémon Snap next to Pokémon Teaches Typing DS next to Pokémon White 2 next to Pokkén.
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>story will still be linear shit
>no routes
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>>721891035
Digimon isn't trying to ripoff Pokemon
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>>721912669
this is just based on how much I like them
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>>721912835
>too many are japanese only
brother i dont think any digimon games are untranslated outside the shitty chinese gachas. the few that were never officially released in the west have fan patches
>>721912669
too many different genres
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>>721912998
Fucking this, nearly every single mon clone is pokemon copycat.

Nobody try copy DQM or SMT.
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>>721902051
we need to spread the good word
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did anyone here finish digimon world without a strategy guide when it came out? what was your experience like
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>>721913193
>brother i dont think any digimon games are untranslated
has super xros wars been translated yet? or that other ds game im not really interested in
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>>721913125
DW4 is too high
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>>721913193
Not him but Xros Wars and Appmon never got fan translations.
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>>721913597
>>721913430
didnt even realize those got games
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>>721912835
>there's no "main series"
if you're saying this, you're a non-fan or a shitty secondary
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>>721913334
What people don't want to tell you is that pokemon perfected the formula
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>>721911883
I got Guilmon. What does that say about me?
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>>721913715
tell me anon which one is it?
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>>721911883
My cookie hasn't expired yet. I'm still paired with Gabumon
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>>721911883
ok i guess this works
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>>721913730
>Mash A button and clear the game with overleveled starter

Wow. Really engaging and epic gameplay.
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>>721913669
To be fair those 2 seasons were the lowest point of digimon after frontier singlehandedly ruined the franchise. Not even savers were able to revived people interest until CS came out.
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>>721910665
Instant buy ty
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>>721913963
But Appmon came out like 4 years after CS
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>>721913349
I didn't even get a quarter of the way through the game, the game mechanics were too obscure.
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>>721913334
>DQM
Play Siralim Ultimate
>SMT
Time Stranger will release in a few weeks.
I joke but the Digimon Story games have leaned hard in to being SMT-lite, both gameplay-wise and thematically. Even some of the UI has SMT vibes. Digimom being the kind of franchise it is means it can't get nearly as hardcore as its inspiration, kind of like how Super Robot Wars always has to make sure people can beat the game with their favorites.
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>>721913349
I didn't understand that battles were important for evolution requirements so I finished the game with a Numemon and ten million healing items.
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>>721913715
Are we talking about the virtual pets which started the franchise and had tournaments?
Digital Monster
Digital Monster Ver. 2
Digital Monster Ver. 3
Digital Monster Ver. 4
Digital Monster Ver. 5
I wouldn't call those video games, even if Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers was released for the Saturn and Digital Monster Ver. WS was released for the WonderSwan. There are also the Pendulum series v-pets, the stuff with the X-Antibodies, the Digivices for the anime, etc.

Digimon World? Well it has monster-raising elements, but there are like three of them, and the first one was beaten to the chase by Ver. S. There are also a couple TCG ones using World's name and engine, and Digimon World X (called 4 outside Japan) which is more of a four player beat-em'-up. But there are the Digimon Story RPG games, many of which were retitled under Digimon World in the early years for brand recognition. But there are also the "fighting" games like Rumble Arena. But I think a lot of people would consider the Ryo games for the WonderSwan to be the flagship video game series for Digimon. After all, he was designed to be Digimon's signature video game protagonist and crossed over into other media like 02, Tamers, and V-Tamer.
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>>721913924
>Mash A button and clear the game with overleveled starter
I mean you can say that about almost any rpg, but he's right pokemon is the best monster collector for better or worse
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>>721913924
>describe not only every rpg but also every action game
>pretend it only applies to pokemon
Just say you don't like Pokemon it's far less embarrassing than acting like a retard.
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>>721913963
>Frontier singlehandedly ruined the franchise
Lol
Lol actually
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>>721914543
i spent a massive portion of my game time training at the gym constantly thinking i wasn't getting high enough stats to become a real digimon
i got dozens of nunemons
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>>721914469
>both gameplay-wise and thematically.
Don't lie to the man no story game has had anything close to press turn and the types are just pokemon plus the FE weapon triangle with it going virus > data > vaccine.
Thematically the only connection is... There isn't really any connection there since there's no morality system and most games aren't even set in Japan let alone a post apocalyptic/apocalyptic setting.

The only similarity it has is that the Survivor artist worked on a few games.
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>>721906136
Yes but they really need to fix it up
on the gameplay side of things, they need terrain modifiers. Like Fire Emblem or SRW do. Terrain that gives you more dodge chance, less hit chance, more defense, etc. Terrain that can only be accessed by swimming Digimon, by flying Digimon, etc. Terrain that deals damage when you end a turn on top of it. etc. etc.
On the story side of things, your choices need to actually matter. In this one it's just
>I think we should go left
>I think we should go right
>I think we should be retarded
and then all options end with "let's go right", if you chose left you get "but I wanna go right", if you choose to be retarded you get "stop being retarded, let's go right".
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>>721913894
the producer went on record to say that they're gonna pour their efforts into the Story rpgs and World pet-raising games, with the occasional spin-off like survive
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>>721914543
It's a carryover from the virtual pet. Some evo stages require fights.
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>>721891035
Digimon is older than Pokemon. Nintendo's turbo jew shit wouldn't work.
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>>721915694
>Story rpgs and World pet-raising games,
so which one is the main one? I guess story since theres more of those style of games but from a marketing perspective world 2 and 3 are more like story games but falls under world because of the name, digimon just has no consistency
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>appmon translation
Wait wtf the game looks good and combat looks like it has actual depth
Also that fusion into Globemon is pretty damn cool.
I kinda see how people said it looks like MMBN years ago in old digimon threads
https://youtu.be/LOceIi8dwQE
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>>721915471
do you approve of the stacking multipliers they applied? note: iirc they apply to TOTAL damage, not base damage
>20~25% for side attack, 50% for back attack
>10/20/50% for 1/2/3 supporters
>50% for attribute advantage (and 25% damage reduction from weak attribute)
>elemental advantage (2x or 3x damage in extreme cases like metalseadramon hit by earth techs)
>~10 to ~50% for stage 1 to 4 stat buffs
>~20% for elemental buffs
this can lead to stuff like 3x~6x base damage (i.e. guaranteed oneshots, especially against your party). ps: there are no revives
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>>721914663
Thing is that pokemon makes really easy to do that kind of shit. Sure you can overgrind on whatever rpg, albeit any decent one just gimp XP after a while.

Once you get coverage there is virtually zero reason to switch, everything get oneshotted and mechanics help with that, nothing to worry about, no bosses, status barely do anything and if your lead dies it can be just revived with whatever fodder.
Funny that pokefags bitch really hard when game actually give any sort of challenge, or even any difficulty hack.
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>>721916135
>Once you get coverage there is virtually zero reason to switch, everything get oneshotted and mechanics help with that, nothing to worry about, no bosses, status barely do anything and if your lead dies it can be just revived with whatever fodder.
You're still describing just about every rpg under the sun I'd argue it's worse since most games allow you to stack a move of every element on to one character and just nuke your opponent with bosses just being wars of attrition rather than actual challenges just look at the Mother Eater for instance.
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>>721916467
How many JRPGs have you actually played? I just want to know.
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anyone else is surpriced that Pokemon was not among the most anticipated upcoming releases?
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>>721916952
More than you have obviously.
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>>721916970
>ghost of Yotei
No.
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>>721913924
>>721916135
Troon afraid of competitive detected
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>>721916952
most of pokemons issues (excluding the modern games) are just general rpg issues
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>>721914663
>I mean you can say that about almost any rpg,
plenty of RPGs have enemies that will petrify your party or use instadeath, ending your run then and there
>b-but you c-can oneshot them!
you have to be overleveled first, which you won't if you just mash A
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>new digimons are just lolis and shotas
>the new protagonist wears literal fetish wear and looks 22 instead of the usual 14
>the best digimon game is a literal persona clone. literal dive-into-tv persona
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>>721917174
>Or any difficulty hack

That shit actually forces you to play smogon.
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>>721917309
>you have to be overleveled first
Not really, once you get magic most rpgs are just over. You can't even use petrify or instadeath, which doesn't really add any kind of challenge, since they're usually endgame statuses and have a lower proc rate than freeze in pokemon.
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>>721917031
Come on, just give me the answer. Let me see what you know. I can eat my words.
>>721917174
There's a reason JRPGs do not have multiplayer. Your clan needs to learn why hiding behind that rock isn't that effective.
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>>721913349
basically did the same shit you do with your starter agumon: get palmon, coelamon, meramon and open up dig tunnel. don't think i did much else until agumon (eventually tyrannomon) passed away. that's when the real suffering started
i thought you could only learn skills from brains training because i never saw it happen from combat, so i kept spending all my mons' lives training brains all the time
didn't feed my mons until they learned a skill (because i went to bed without supper when i brought bad grades home, not learning a skill is basically getting bad grades right?) sold the excess giant meat and eventually sirloin for tons of money.
all my rookies evolve into numemon because very few champions have mp/brains requirements and the 1 weight and negative happiness didn't help either
eventually learned poop spd toss because that's what happens when you keep training brains as a poopmon champion, then abused poison and floppy throwing
i still remember sweating bullets during the machinedramon fight because two hits was enough to kill my numemon, i was basically throwing floppies nonstop. somehow that was enough to beat the game
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>>721917309
pokemon has freeze paralyze and instakill moves
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>>721917375
>>new digimons are just lolis and shotas
You ain't got the slightest clue of what you're talking about.
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>>721917612
>just give me the answer
You honestly want me to list every single rpg I've played over the years?
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>>721917612
Well? What's the reason?
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>>721917612
>Come on, just give me the answer
NTA but if you're so confident wouldn't it be better to name the games YOU'VE played?
>JRPGs do not have multiplayer
There's a ton of jrpgs with multiplayer, Cyber Sleuth has multiplayer in fact.
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>>721917586
>since they're usually endgame statuses and have a lower proc rate than freeze in pokemon.

What the fuck you talking about. Even FF mobs throw bunch of status, SMT is worse with that thanks to instakill spam but shit dates way back onto wizardry.
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>>721917586
But most magic classes are delicate as hell. So you need a tank to eat that damage so you can nuke the enemy. That alone is more depth than anything in Pokémon.
>>721917808
Just list most of them. Like the top 20.
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>>721916467
Games like SMT severely limit growth potential for a demon beyond the first 5-10 levels (depending on when you get it in the story). There are still demons that are relatively powerful for where they appear in the story, like Idunn in SMT V is really good as a healer, but the focus of the game requires you to recycle the demons you have into different, stronger demons on a fairly regular basis.

Pokémon is not that kind of game. There's a much greater focus on being able to use your favorites outside of battle facilities, so if you wanted to use Wooper the whole game and didn't want Quagsire, you could. Pokémon fans would riot otherwise, they already make a fuss over not wanting to put HMs on their favorites and not wanting their favorites out of their party to accommodate something with HMs, and they also make a fuss about Pokémon being rare or late in the game when they want all their favorites as soon as possible.
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>>721892217
Based...
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>>721918018
>Even FF mobs throw bunch of status,
Yeah, at the end of the game or if you're playing one of the few games with a Malboro.
>SMT is worse with that thanks to instakill spam
Hama and Mudo moves have fairly low proc rates in most games and aren't as common as you're making them out to be.
>but shit dates way back onto wizardry.
You've missed the entire point of the conversation. Not to mention Wizardry throws much, much more at you than just a basic insta kill.

You haven't played a lot of rpgs have you.
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>>721918036
>So you need a tank to eat that damage so you can nuke the enemy.
Depends on the game most allow you to outspeed and nuke with an AOE spell. That said having a tank isn't exactly depth especially if it's a game where they have a passive redirect skill.
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>>721918036
>But most magic classes are delicate as hell
Who cares if they're delicate if you can nuke most mobs before they can move?
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>>721918251
Not exactly, but past certain point you really need evolve for better stats, even with game throwing bunch of crutches to you like badges giving stats bonus and friendship fuckery in modern games.
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>>721918251
>but the focus of the game requires you to recycle the demons you have into different, stronger demons on a fairly regular basis.
You picked a bad example with SMT v by the way, since stat up items for monsters are incredibly common. You could get through with a buffed up slime or pixie if you wanted to or better yet fuse it with an element over and over.
Also Miracles in SMT V are broken. Using them makes the game hilariously easy and they aren't exactly hard to obtain.
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>>721917586
Nearly all magic in SMT III gets more powerful up until your level is in the late 20s, and then it starts scaling downward in power. You may not notice it because you're still putting points into your Magic stat, but once it hits 40, you will notice your damage output using Magic only falls, all the way until flatlining around level 160. Even if you reach level 255 (your level indicator stops at 99, but additional levels still give you points for stats, along with growth for HP and MP), while your HP hits the 999 cap, MP doesn't, and that's because magic isn't good for anything but getting press turns by hitting weaknesses. Enemies still can kill you with instadeath movies from an early point, even if you're max level and somehow let an early game enemy get the initiative in battle, it can hypothetically kill you with that single turn if it knows Mudo or Hama.

Pokémon is the kind of series where fans deify a character like Whitney because they lost a battle once to a character with some minor strategy.
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>>721909434
Like?
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>>721919156
Your argument falls apart when you realise SMT 3 has AOE Physical skills, Heat Wave can be obtained really early.
By the by that anon was making a general argument and he said MOST, not all.
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>>721919136
>You picked a bad example with SMT v by the way
thats a perfect example its a bit easier to use your favorites in V as opposed to previous smt games but its clear not designed around it
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>>721918036
>Just list most of them. Like the top 20.
Anon, you haven't even said how many you've played.
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>>721918467
Recent games changed how mudo/hama worked, now is mostly elemental magic with chance to instakill. One bad ambush means party wipe in older games.
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>>721913125
Interesting that despite the names you haven't played any of the actual Digimon World series.
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>>721919507
I'm typing out a post rn. I'll get back to you when it's done.
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>>721913349
I got fucked over by the ogremon fortress glitch (no ogremon, no shellmon, no whamon). I don't remember whether I finished it on PS1. I think my brother did though. I distinctly remember machinedramon appearing at different places like the ice sanctuary and grey lord's mansion
>>721913430
>has super xros wars been translated yet?
no. appmon hasn't either
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>>721911883
I like this guy :)))
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>>721913349
i somehow managed to bumble my way inside toy town with a numemon, it evolved into a monzaemon. left the town because i got my ass kicked by warumonzaemon, pissed off a hyuogamon(? the ice ogremon) inside ice sancturary that taught me buster dive, and from then on it was smooth sailing up infinity mountain. floppy spam also helped.
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>>721919136
>you can break the game if you feed stat raising items
waoooooow
but that requires more than just "mashing A"
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>>721891035
They can't sue you if you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
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>>721916970
>Star force
Hell yea
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>>721899062
Love southern belle frog.
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>>721919574
>One bad ambush means party wipe in older games.
Just to let you know Mudo and Hama instant death rates are considerably higher now than they were in SMT 2, I think it's about 30-40%, with the caveat that it only procs on weakness. They weren't really reliable in the past but you're probably conflating that with the few games where an kill on the protag would be an instant game over.
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>>721919578
I played 3 a little bit but not enough to rank it, its a very nostalgic game for me though I used to watch my brother play it, and im actually playing decode right now. my agumon just digivolved into greymon, I was hoping for somthing more interesting
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>>721919426
SMT really punish mindless spam because reflect/drain, even resistances means you deal fuck all damage.

Almighty damage obviously fix that but then it cost assload of MP.
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>>721919835
Yes anon, mashing A across the map until you pick up a stat up item, matching A to feed it to your demons and then mashing A to fight. Isn't just mashing A.
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>>721920005
Anon, there's only about 4 demons in SMT 3 with physical reflect.
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>>721917868
The 2 main reasons that multiplayer balancing isn't the same as singleplayer balancing, and a lot of JRPGs aren't about just the battles, usually the out-of-battle gameplay is too tied to it. For the first part, games with more immediate action are easier to tune, but in numbers games like JRPG, shit is a nightmare and half the fun stuff in them becomes either broken or useless when the opponents stop being designed bosses. For the second, a big part of JRPGs is the stuff outside of battles, and I don't mean the story. When it comes to nuking shit, you can just do that every battle, but you shouldn't because you will run out of juice soon, and when you do, you're probably dead. Dungeons are endurance tests if you're prepared enough for the trek. Budgeting and the economy are also big parts. So the builds and strategies needed for the multiplayer and single player are usually not transferable enough for it to add much.
>>721918717
Even if you pump the chode with a fuckton of speed, all it takes is one "goes first" move to cripple you.
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>>721920183
You still need deal with phys resist.
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>>721920431
Resist is a non issue unless you're confusing that with Null Phys. Either way I think there's only about 10 or so with Drain, Null and Reflect.
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>No Devidramon again
Why do they hate him so much
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the difference of pokemon with every other rpg is that all pokemon adhere by the same rules. they as enemies have the same stats as they would have playable. there's nothing like hacker memory making you fight a gatomon with above mega level hp and stats, outside maybe eternatus and raids in more recent games
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>>721906695
>myotismon is just vampire
>first mega is a like a beast made of different monsters
>Second mega is like and alien knight
>Third mega is spikes nonsense.
Can't we just get a cool vampire mega?
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>>721911883
Get fucked losers
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>>721921276
Neo is the best you're getting.
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>>721920832
>outside maybe eternatus
If you want to be technical even that a ides by the rules, Eternamax is just unusable
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>>721921276
Kneel, bitch.
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>>721911883
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>>721908556
My nigga. He's my favorite too.
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>>721891035
Why do you insist on making Digimon threads with bait OPs that will inevitably get derailed into off-topic discussion about other monster tamer games when Digimon threads have been shown to be perfectly capable of standing on their own multiple times now?
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>>721920629
ok refunding now
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>>721900198
>>721907905
>>721908142
>>721912193
>>721916118
>>721917690
>>721919698
>>721920629
>dra
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>>721920391
>all it takes is one "goes first" move to cripple you.
Have you ever actually played an RPG?
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>>721917883
>>721919507
My top 20 jrpgs, there's no real order other than how fast I can recall them
Etrian Odyssey 3 (playing it rn like it a lot can't wait to try the other entries)
Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Quest 4
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 3D
Dragon Quest Monsters 1 3D
Dragon Quest Monsters 3 (it's worse than all the other DQMs are better, but it's still a DQM)
Dragon Quest Monsters 1
The Denpa Men
The Denpa Men 2
The Denpa Men 3
Yo-kai Watch 2
Yo-kai Watch 3 (I'm not gonna pretend the gameplay is actually really good, but I still like them)
HorrorVale (I'll be real, it's only good in the dream arena)
Paper Mario (okay, I lose when I'm doing a JRPG snob thing, and I have to pad out the end of it with Mario RPGs because those are the only others I can remember playing and liking)
Super Mario RPG (I'm eating my words)
Mario & Luigi Brothership
Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
Mario & Luigi Dream Team
Cyber Slueth (I tried to pad it out and still can't hit the quota, so I have to put this in even if I hate it a fuckton)
>>721922465
yeah
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>>721921765
>Fat gotsumon
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>>721921716
no, because even hacked eternamax plays by the rules of the game. instead enemy eternamax has the raid mechanics which the player cannot access
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>>721921923
Because it's better for engagement, a boring OP leads many times to archived threads. You say they can stand on their own but that only works once the ball gets rolling, the bait OPs do that job. Learn to make threads.
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>>721924270
Yeah, because the pokemon discussion taking place in the post above yours is totally worth it
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>>721922129
For me it's Slayerdramon. A cool dragon knight that isn't part of the Royal Knights.
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>>721924425
Hey it's not my thread and not the way I would've chosen to lay out bait but for what it's worth it's how threads optimally work even if this one's implementation wasn't ideal.
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>>721921276
First mega is the beast, satan, that's why it has a secret hidden face on the crotch, that's how satan used to be represented in old drawings (that's also why Chaos from Final Fantasy 1 has a similar face)
His other mega, the one from 02... is some fucking robot for some reason I never understood that.
I don't know what his third mega is, I haven't seen it.
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>>721924653
His third mega is just xros era garbage.
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>>721922712
Not a very impressive list, give me a second to compile my own then.
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>>721921276
>Can't we just get a cool vampire mega?
You have him, he's just in the dracmon line.
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>>721925096
Well, it's better than Belial at least.
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>>721925219
...you know what I won't actually deny that.
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>>721925096
what the fuck is that
what the holy fuck is that
It's like someone thought "what is the most important detail on a vampire? it's fangs! of course! I am going to put fangs all over his body!"
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>>721925096
>>721925219
>>721925369
both of them are cool, you guys are just boring
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>>721925369
It's more a case of
>hmmmm how do we make a vampire-themed not-mecha for our pseudo-mecha series made to sell figures?
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>>721925096
It's one of the few Xros designs I actually like. the Xros design for Cyberdramon is also pretty good.
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>>721925369
>It's like someone thought "what is the most important detail on a vampire? it's fangs! of course! I am going to put fangs all over his body!"
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>>721925542
Cyberdramon turning into a buster launcher for greymon was funny.
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>>721925438
>>721925479
>>721925581
does that myotismon at least have an interesting personality or fight or something better than that awful fight he got in 02?
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>>721925581
Isn't from an artist that is autistic about Toguro?
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>>721925716
I can't remember him other than he was in the show which probably means no, but I haven't watched it since it was airing.
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>>721891035
It's because nobody gives a fuck about Digimon and Bandai Namco is a poorfag company and is in a good relationship with Nintendo.
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>>721894357
Biggest truth nuke. Nintendo doesn't waste time with failed franchises.
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>>721894956
>She turns into THIS
Zamn, what those lips do tho?
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>>721925438
Maybe if you're 12.
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>>721926220
Actually in Digimon Time Strangers, she either evolves into Lilithmon or Lotusmon, but not Parasimon.
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>>721926413
Boo...
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>>721922712
FF 1 to 12 bar 8, 2 and 11, plus tactics, X2, Revenant Wings
TWEWY
DQ 7, 8, 9, 11
DQMJ1
SMT 3, 4/A, 5/V, SJ
Pokemon gen 1 to 9 including the GC games
KH 1, 2, 3D, CoM, Days
Spectrobes
Etrian 1&U, 2U, 4, currently playing 3
Octopath 1 & 2
Moe Chronicles
Dragonball Fusions
Persona 1, 3, 4G, 5/R, Q
Breath of Fire 3
Digimon DS, Dawn, CS, HM
Blue Dragon Plus
Chrono Trigger
Phantasy Star
Golden Sun, LA, DD
Bravely Default, Second, 2
Devil Survivor
Fire Emblem, Shadow dragon, Fates all three, 3H, Engage
Project X Zone 1 and 2
Cross Edge
Disgaea 1, 3, 4, 5
Secret of Mana, Sword, Trials, Children
Earthbound
.Hack IMOQ, GU
Bowser's inside story.

I'd have to look through my collection to see anything else because these are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
The only one left that I can remember other than these was a Suikoden game on ps2 that a friend lent me but I can't remember which one but whatever.
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>>721912058
Some sources have Tinkermon as Fairimon's Child form. I don't really get it, neither one looks any more "evolved" than the other.
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pokeshit lost

time strangers is gonna print 5m
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>>721926934
Oh yeah, how could I forget about Xenoblade 1 to 3 and X.
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>>721908556
I agree. Some of em are cute too, and I fucking love GranKuwagamon (I wish we got a TyrantKuwagamon or some shit tho)
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>>721908556
Bugnigs are gross are so are you.
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>>721927092
I think it's size related?
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>>721926934
Okay, I lost impressively. I ate my words.
Also, you're playing EO 3 right now as well? What a coincidence.
>>721927467
I hope you die alone.
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>>721908556
I don't know which Digimon is my favorite because I love a lot of them, I like Betamon, I like Guilmon, I like Machinedramon, I like Greymon, I like Gatomon, I like Venommyotismon, I like Beelzemon... etc...
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>>721927683
betamon is GOD
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>>721927092
>neither one looks any more "evolved" than the other.
fairymon has a bigger chest and ass
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/digi/ having a meltie over digimon slowly becoming more mainstream was not on this year's bingo card
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>>721917375
Point to 5 new Digimon that are loli
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>>721928286
uuhhh... eeehhh... Jackie chan! oh GODDAMMIT
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Stop being lazy and post a full line: wikimon.net

>>721911883
I can live with this. I would prefer a proper beast mega, but spectral fire dog with free waifu isn't too bad either.

>>721927092
The whole line is just kinda screwed. JetSilphymon also doesn't look more evolved then Shutumon either and AncientIrismon looks entirely unrelated.

>>721925697
You mean "launcher" as an euphemism, right?
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If a Digimon invaded India, would he single-handedly wipe it out?
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>>721928473
>From cool monster to cosplay slut
Many such cases
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>>721928521
>Indian man gets close to the tracks with his phone out
>LOCOMON DIGIVOLVE TO...
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>>721928521
>regular locomon
oh no, they'd swarm to it like flies to shit
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>>721928473
2 > 1 > 4 > 3 in order of most sexy to least sexy.
(partial) Shitposting aside, I like that line.
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>>721928473
at least link a proper builder man
https://digimon-lines.com/build
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>>721928246
it's mostly just one autist
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Will TS actually cause a breakthrough for digimon and make it relevant again
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>>721928847
Look at all of those parasimon
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>>721899865
Dinomon didn't exist when they finalized the roster.
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>>721928473
I dub this one "shadow dude can't decide on a class" and he will be my TS ace.
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>>721902051
I wouldn't worry about Pokemon. There is a lot of overlap between the two series fans, but I don't think most people buying the new ZA Pokemon game will care about Digimon, even if Time Strangers is a 10/10 game. That has been my impression at least. The Nintendo blinders are hard to take off many people sadly.
The best would be to talk about how good and fun (assuming it is good and fun) the game is.
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>>721929221
>releasing right next to a pokemon game
lmao no, do not be fooled by reception here, most normal fags do not care about the issues that plague modern pokemon. it also doesnt help this game is 79.99 plus tip
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>>721929221
It is in the perfect spot right now. TCG whales fund the franchise and it is nowhere mainstream.
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>>721929221
lmao no. the gameplay is just generic 4 guys in a row and that genre has fallen out of style longer ago than most people interested in playing monster collecting games have been alive
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>>721929741
>gameplay is just generic 4 guys in a row and that genre has fallen out of style longer ago
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>>721929462
>but I don't think most people buying the new ZA Pokemon game will care about Digimon, even if Time Strangers is a 10/10 game.
You'd be surprised, remember, not only is this a bamco game with a lot of paid dlc and it'll go down in price drastically over time it also has Denuvo and PC is the platform most people are likely to buy it for in addition there's a high overlap between pc and switch users
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>Time Stranger is going all in on olympos 12
Can't wait for her model and animations.
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>>721929221
Even if Time Stranger goes on to sell millions of copies and ignites a "Digimon Fever" around the world, Bandai will still somehow fail to capitalize on the hype, the next game will be in a completely different genre, and someone on their staff will say something completely retarded on Twitter. The Digimon series is completely allergic to success.
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>>721912018
This lizard looks like she fucks exclusively human men.
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>>721930209
the next game will probably take a century to come out
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>>721929221
TS + new anime airing 3 days later is a pretty good push. If they manage to push out the TCG digital app out before the years end (and it not be shit) then there's a chance it'll make waves of popularity.

>>721929482
there's a pokemon game coming out?
What is it now, green and purple?
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>>721930209
I hate you for speaking the truth.
Can you not do that.
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Think I got all the Rookies in the demo. Hyokomon is my favourite design of the bunch I have that I don't recognise.
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>>721930520
>What is it now, green and purple?
Spinoff. Set in a city with action combat. Already being shat on for being a graphical downgrade from older titles(that were already mocked for shitty graphics and performance) and unrepentant greed(high base price, pre-launch DLC, Pokemon locked behind paid PvP mode)

Purple was the last one actually.
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>>721929741
Persona sells like hotcakes.
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>>721930520
>there's a pokemon game coming out?
>What is it now, green and purple?
Legends Z-A, which is set in that one giant city in Pokemon X/Y only, and there's a tournament around the city. It looks neat on paper, yet the graphics and gameplay look a bit underwhelming imo.
Kalos (region in X/Y) is probably the best looking region, so imo a bit of a slap in the face to only restrict you to the circle city (which is imo the ugliest area of the region).
Also it has day one $30 DLC.
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>>721930891
>high base price, pre-launch DLC
TS has these too though
not defending pogaymon, just saying bandai needs to eat dick too
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>>721930891
oh a modern day version of that arceus game. No wonder it wasn't on my radar that shit was boring after 2 hours.
There's even less overlap then.
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>>721930209
Bandai refuse to let it be big and will put the IP on ice for years at the drop of a hat no matter how beloved it is. Its burned through at least 3 modern mobile games. They had 2 back to back unpopular anime series. Yet it has gone on hiatus after hiatus after even modest success in games. Bandai has no fucking clue what to do with the IP. Even if Time Stranger and Beat Break actually both break the normie barrier and are successes outside of the target audiences, I'm not going to hold my breath until I see what comes after. I'll just enjoy the cat lewds until then.
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>>721930209
>Bandai will still somehow fail to capitalize on the hype
True by default
>the next game will be in a completely different genre
Well not really, Story series though archaic in its format has endured since DS days, employing yasuda in character design to revitalise the game part of the franchise, and continuing with TS after CS/HM. It's Survive that was the experimental genre/format, and arguably reworking World series for the modern day with Next Order. Story series strikes the balance well enough.
>and someone on their staff will say something completely retarded on Twitter. The Digimon series is completely allergic to success.
Also true again by default.

If bandai execs stop trying to me as big as pokemon or comparing (they won't), digimon is a pretty good cashcow running on anime, merch, nostalgia, plamo sales, card sales, and games. What they need is some perspective, just look at rockman/megaman for example.
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>>721929829
I didn't play this game so I don't know enough to counterargue.
>>721930927
Brand loyalty.
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>>721931294
>Story series though archaic in its format has endured since DS days,
id say earlier that that, world 3 is essentially a story game in all but name
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>>721931368
>Brand loyalty.
to what lol, most persona fans never played the first two games, dont know about the smt series as a whole, and dont really care about atlus. just admit turn based rpgs aren't inherently unpopular
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Is it true the TS has had 8 years of development and allowed to cook until ready, and is it also true that bamco gave extra money to the project for once instead of treating it as shovelware
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>>721931294
Yeah, Mega Man's a great example. You're got a million people screaming at Capcom, "I'll give you forty dollars right now, just let me jump and shoot things!" And Capcom thinks, "Well if it isn't ten million people wanting to pay us seventy dollars on a simple low-budget game where you jump and shoot, there's no reason to justify spending $600 million dollars to develop it (for some reason). We're better off forgetting the whole thing."
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>>721931670
>allowed to cook until ready,
i think its more like no one knew what they were doing
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Although I hate studios doing remake/remastes, I wonder if we could get a re-release of the DS Akiyama Ryo era games. I enjoyed them on my WonderSwan, and although I still have my Wonderswan, I would love to just buy and own a trilogy pack or something on modern platform, even if sold as is without upscaling lol
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I forgot what the rest of the line should look like. I think some anon found evolutions that perfectly match the motif
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>>721931039
>Also it has day one $30 DLC.
It does not. The dlc releases next year.
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>>721931823
Really? That's interesting. Am I so stockholm syndromed by this franchise that when playing the TS demo that I was pleasantly shocked at how I can spin the camera unlike in CS on a fucking vita-based engine, and now quietly looking forward to slightly more interesting map designs instead of what we used to get, fully knowing it's basic simple shit
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>>721931294
I do hope we get more Story games no matter what else they make. Classic turnbased rpg games will always make me happy.
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>>721930891
>>721931039
Pretty sure only time stranger has day one dlc.
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>>721931670
I don't think we really know what went on behind the scenes. But from the way these things usually go I assume that Bandai wanted Time Stranger to be their big budget breakthrough hit from the beginning and development stalled due to mismanagement and no clear artistic vision. Then some dude agreed to take the helm and try to cram this thing through the pipeline in about 14 months, and this is the end result.

Hey, that doesn't always lead to bad games. Look at Metroid Prime.
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>>721931670
>Is it true the TS has had 8 years of development and allowed to cook until ready
Nigga, most returning mon are reusing animations if they were really working on it for 8 years it would have been all new.
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>>721932123
When playing CS or the TS demo I forget the surprising amount of love the devs give to the mons unique attack animations, I don't know why I always expect generic caster-ball attacks. Though they still exist for generic moves
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>>721932123
Why is Kazemon being posted is she in the game?
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>>721932226
>reusing animations
Well fuck. I mean if Super Robot Wars is allowed, right...?
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>>721932309
Kek what the fuck, did she do something to bamco
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>>721932079
The biggest thing hurting Cybersluts longterm was that it was Vita game. The way the camera/ui/dialog cutscenes were oriented was best on a mobile screen. Ironically, the steam deck and others like it made suck less as it ended up on a platform making it look good again.
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Bow down to your MVP. I just finshed CS about to start HM
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>>721932123
As much as I prefer the Story games, I think it's time they took another crack at a World style game. There's a lot they can learn from Next Order and I think the next game could be something special. Maybe instead of everything running in real time, every action could take a chunk out of the day. Feeding and caring could be less about quick responses and more about having the resources and insight to match their needs. Instead of raising two Digimon at a time, maybe you could "freeze" one before its life span is over. Events like tournaments could take place on certain dates and

Yeah, I'm saying make Monster Rancher 2. Make Monster Rancher 2 but with Digimon. That's what I fucking want them to do.
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>>721931294
To be fair the next digimon game is alysion which is a TCG digital simulator so it technically is a completely different genre.
Another world game would be nice though.. next order was kinda eh with it's battle-training since battles where the payoff for training in the other ones. Over-battling to get stats made battles boring.
but this is bandai, expect survive 2 being announced.
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>>721906136
Unironically, just make a Fire Emblem clone, swapping out classes with evolution.
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>>721932309
No, but Ranamon is.
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>>721932827
>To be fair the next digimon game is alysion which is a TCG digital simulator
For the official TCG (the new one, not the older ones)? Oh dang, I haven't been keeping up with the news. That's exciting! I collect the cards but the game is too much for my negative IQ brain to handle. A digital version will be very helpful.
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>>721932957
I wonder if we could mount angewomon, haha...
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>>721911883
He looks kind of cool, I guess.
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>>721917375
>>new digimons are just lolis
God, I wish.
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>>721933159
How do you feel about sentai?
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>>721933096
no
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>>721933326
Yeah I had looked up what he turned into and it's based and rad. Wolf sentai with a scarf dual-wielding lightsabers is PEAK Cool Digimon Bullshit.
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>>721932796
I love MR2 so I'd be all over it.
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>>721932519
It's generally Tai/Yamato expies only once you get into mon after Tamers
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>>721902051
Time strangers has my interest, but I don't own a PS5 or Xbox whatever.
I may get it on PC, but I'll probably wait for a sale.
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>>721929221
I think it will do well enough that Bandai will glance over and say "huh, look at that" and then act like nothing happened
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>>721902243
We just call them millennials
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>>721911168
Playing through Survive right now and the game can't decide if Palmon is She or He
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>>721933736
>Cybersleuth went down to 4.50 this week on some storefronts
Hold out for a good sale anon. They will come.
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>>721894956
>>721895380
Her ghost game appearance got me confused and aroused.
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>>721929482
Honestly its mostly children.
The manchidren reception of pokemon really doesnt matter when 20 million kids buy it.

And honestly seeing shit like roblox being popular its not like I can be baffled for kids wanting to play poor graphical games since they clearly dont give a fuck
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>>721891939
>>721891035
Probably because Nintendo doesnt want to invest money into a franchise that directly competes with one of their flagships (Pokemon, obviously).

They're happy to work with Bandai on everything else
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>>721934117
In to oral fisting, huh?
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>>721934181
I wonder. Digimon has been closer to SMT for a full decade now and Nintendo has invested into SMT multiple times at this point.
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>>721934141
Anon, I suggest you don't go on a manchild tantrum about graphics while calling people manchildren.
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>>721904098
Pokemon pre-dates the very first Digimon product by about a year and a half. Digimon is a derivative of pokemon, it just took a significantly different thematic and aesthetic route which is fair enough honestly
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>>721929829
Counter point, its a big game online but it only sold 4m~ copies. Good for its budget but thats not a huge number.
I wouldnt be shocked to find out that dogshit Borderlands game sold better

Normalfags dont really care
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>>721934289
>Digimon has been closer to SMT for a full decade now
No.
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>>721934308
is there any examples of that? there was the capsule monsters thing an anon posted where it was dated at 1990.
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>>721903347
Kino
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>>721904907
Nintendo owns around a third of pokemon yes alongside game freak and creatures inc
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>>721934381
>there was the capsule monsters thing an anon posted where it was dated at 1990
What the fuck does that have to do with Digimon?
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>>721934308
>Pokemon pre-dates the very first Digimon product by about a year and a half
Proof?
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>>721934308
>Digimon is a derivative of pokemon,
it really isnt unless you wanna argue tomagachi is derivative of pokemon
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>>721932957
>Kazemon didnt make it but Ranamon did
>this means Ranamon actually won their argument in Frontiers
Its over...
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>>721934298
Nah Im saying places like /vp/ arent really indicitive of peoples reactions.
Manchildren arent really the majority audience, its actual children.
Same as the dexit shit. How many 8 year olds are throwing a tantrum some gen 2 bug type got cut from the game?

Mind you it would be better for kids to not show up in mass to force gamefreak and nintendo to actually polish their shit better but I wouldnt count on a pokemon game flopping just because the internet reception is muted.
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>>721934528
You may not want to use products that came out after pokemon if you don't want people to do that.
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>>721934598
>Same as the dexit shit. How many 8 year olds are throwing a tantrum some gen 2 bug type got cut from the game?
Let's be honest, not even older monster tamer fans complained about that because every tamer does that.
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>>721934467
you could say pokemon was around as far back as 1990 if you were big enough of a fanboy is all im saying, or a tendie-wagecuck.
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>>721934473
You can look up release dates
>>721934528
Rather than the Tamagotchi things (That pokemon still predates) I mean more the franchise itself.

The idea of you playing as a young boy/girl, in another world, going around befriend small creatures fight for you, grow stronger and change forms, even the portmanteau of pokemon and digimon, are very similar concepts on the surface level. I was just praising digimon for doing their own thing aesthetically and thematically, with the focus on digital technology, the internet etc.

But considering even Tamagotchi first released around 9 months after Red/Green, by which point Pokemania would have fully set in over in Japan, I wouldn't go so far as to say Pokemon's early success had NOTHING to do with Tamagotch's creators working on a "Small creature you raise and keep in your pocket" game. Especially when Pokemon was styled as Pocket Monsters and only existed as a portable game at that point
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>>721935016
>You can look up release dates
Thanks for confirming you can't prove your claims to be true.
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>>721911883
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>>721934598
considering kids shouldn't be raised arguably on brands made by the most nefarious of actors, something like pokemon is extremely subversive. i dont think its possible for kids 'not' to be hooked into it straightaway. telling them about everything wrong with the devs and the hidden '''lore''' from the gigaleak is a big no-no as well.
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>>721935071
The first Digimon product was the Digital Monster virtual pet, released by Bandai in Japan on June 26, 1997.

Pokémon Red and Pokémon Green were released in Japan on February 27, 1996, for the Game Boy. These were the first instalments of the Pokémon franchise and became massive hits in Japan before being exported globally starting in 1998

You spoonfed mouth drooling knuckle dragging behemoth of retards
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>>721935168
Thanks.
Was that so hard?
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>>721935016
>But considering even Tamagotchi first released around 9 months after Red/Green,
the first concepts were proposed in 1995, and the changes to the release were to make it more cute for girls. I really dont think pokemon had much of an influance on that
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>>721906136
I honestly think survives issue was poor execution than poor idea.
Gameplay, story and everything was incredibly basic and you can tell it was rushed when they scrapped the game late development and started it again. Proper work on it could have made it so much better.

>>721915471
I hate that it's basically only 4 unchangeable routes, Nothing you do changes anything outside what route you "pick".
All the deaths are decided by what route you're on. It's so arbitrary it feels like choices don't matter.
They should have just be decided in the moment; too many wrath points? Miu doesn't trust you and gets killed. Too many harmony points trying to appease everyone by letting them do as they please? You let Saki do as she wants and gets herself killed. Wrath trumping Harmony in priority (Saki won't do as she pleases if Miu runs off etc.) It wouldn't have been much different a story but it would at least feel less tacky than "do you want the red ending or the blue ending" being asked out of nowhere before going back to the digital world.
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>>721929829
45/10
wtf?
>>721934309
>not a huge number
I hate AAAAtards so much
>>721931242
>Bandai has no fucking clue what to do with the IP
I'm pretty sure the digimon department knows what it's looking for
>break the normie barrier
do you want digimon to turn into failed pokefag central? westoid normgroids loathe fanservice, japan, edginess (killing god, rise against the ruler, digi-race war, hackers taking over the world, etc.), and sexiness. they're a bunch of wet blankets want the blandest, most sterile, most vanilla games you can imagine
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>>721935458
>do you want digimon to turn into failed pokefag central?
It's already stuck there. They could have matured the series with the fans and carved out a niche but they refuse to do so and just want to stick behind pokemon.
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>>721932992
Yeah, but it's for the literal first sets so it's like 2021 TCG with digital-only exclusives and the UI is kinda bad according to those playing the beta. People are kinda mixed on it because of that, since it'll be 3+ years behind, compare to how master duel is 6 or so months behind to the TCG/OCG for yugioh.
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>>721931242
I'm pretty sure the mobile game issue is entirely just bandai in general not how to do a mobile game rather than the digimon IP. Tales had just as many failed mobage in that time period too.
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>>721931670
>>721931823
>>721932079
it took them forever because the scenario and the olympos XII weren't fleshed out, so they took the time to catch up on worldbuilding and getting the concepts ready to put together the story.
the reason TS wasn't canceled when bamco scrapped along with the rest of their games (wan piss, bort, etc.) after the dud that unflop 9 turned out to be was that it was too far along by that point, and thank god for that.
it's now digimon's death or glory moment. hopefully it will stick the landing (and not fall to sjwfaggotry and lgbtrannyism afterward)
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>>721934598
>dexit
There's like 750+ pokemon in Scarlet and Violet right? Even after dex cuts in a game, that's a staggering number considering how many monster games do palette swaps. There are more Digimon than that, I think. Even after actual palette swaps, if they could get them even in the ballpark of that total number in a single game, we can get this IP going again. Followed shortly by the obligatory openworld survival-craft game that every series must have. At least it would make more sense here than pokemon.
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>>721936093
>There's like 750+ pokemon in Scarlet and Violet right?
It has something like 820, the most in any pokemon game to date.
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>>721932796
>As much as I prefer the Story games, I think it's time they took another crack at a World style game
sorry anon, best I've got for you is LZA. hope you don't mind
>Instead of raising two Digimon at a time, maybe you could "freeze" one before its life span is over
that sounds suspiciously like monster ranch- oh
>>721935552
>They could have matured the series with the fans and carved out a niche but they refuse to do so and just want to stick behind pokemon.
but they did. cyber sluts and beyond are a lot closer to SMT than pokemon. you must be blind if you think it resembles porkymon
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>>721936093
>There are more Digimon than that, I think.
Unique mon? No.
With recolors? Yes
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>>721936291
>cyber sluts and beyond are a lot closer to SMT than pokemon.
You've been saying this nonsense all thread but haven't named a single similarity between, not in the gameplay nor thematically.
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>>721936291
>cyber sluts and beyond are a lot closer to SMT than pokemon.
Nigger there's nothing SMT about CS. Hell type effectiveness in the Story games works like fucking pokemon



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