>"Go to PC">OK>Build is going to be in the range of $1700 -$2,000+Yeah, no. I don't like what Xbox, Sony and Nintendo are doing, but I'm not paying that much money for a PC. Sorry. I'd be happier gaming on the phone I already have than that.
>>722285798PC is cheaper in the long run qhen you factor in paid online subscriptions, goypass, and free games available via piracy or emulation. And a decent pc can (or could, back when devs gave a fuck about optimization) last you longer than a console generation would.Plus the extra freedom of mods, graphics settings, emulation, etc
we need to stop letting poors make threads here
>>722285798>I'd be happier gaming on the phone I already have than that.No wonder why you 3rd worlders spam gacha threads 24/7
>>722285798Difference being a PC of that price will last you 2 gens, and you can often just buy a new GPU and plop it in when it's time to upgrade.RAM is where you get fucked though because upgrading from DDR3 to 4 and so on has meant completely new mobo and builds for me. But I would have a PC regardless, so might as well combine my consoles into it.
It used to be outright better. Anyone who was primarily console gaming from 2005 - 2019 was either a kid or an idiot.Nowadays, PC gaming has entered "Hobbyist" status. Its like having an expensive car. Do you need one? Are you expected to have one? Absolutely not, but it sure is nice.
Buy a Steam Deck and you'll quickly realize that somehow not being able to run on it and being shit are mutually inclusive qualifiers.
>>722286168>not throwing away thousands of dollars on a PC is being a "poor".In no world is paying this much money versus paying a few hundred on consoles in the same range. Paying for online isn't even that big of a deal (especially on Nintendo where you can pay just $20 a month if you really wanted). I just want to sit down, turn the thing on and play the game.
>>722285798>me continuing to not care that OP doesn't have a PC
>>722286696Bonus this realization comes with the fact that you don't need too high of a spec PC to play everything actually good.
ATTENTION!To anyone dumb enough to continue arguing with OP just remember that people like pic related are the type of people who struggle with PCs in general.
>>722286635>Let me tell you about the voices in my headWhy do people like you post like this?
>>722285798You don't have to pay that much for a PC. Just buy cheap used parts. A Haswell CPU and a 1050 TI are enough to play 90% of the PC library and emulate most consoles.
>>722288945holy shit lmao
>>722286168It's literally just south american and slavs crying about PC prices.In 2008 it cost 600-800 eurodollars to get a good pc, and with inflation, getting older and a better job, and increased expectation from pc hardware now it really is 800-1k for a GPU alone + 800 for the rest of the PC. That's just how it is.
>>722286032I don’t like playing with cheaters and hackers, so console it is. Fuck pc faggots who deem that shit acceptable. And it’s broken half the time .
>>722289283>A Haswell CPU and a 1050 TIWhat if I want to play a video game from this generation that isn't an indie game?
>>722289819you are french your opinion means nothing
>>722290001My console ecosystem filters you
>>722289990Why the fuck would you want to do that?
>>722285798You're far too stupid to be on PC. Stuck with phone like your normie NPC counter parts.>>72228616875% chance that's a 1PBTID bait poster
>>722285798I mid range pc or even low end can cover all the decent games you could wantAlso pcs do more than game
>>722285798want to be a poorfag then do poorfag things.buy a 3+ year old Dell Optiplex (cross reference processor to make sure your getting something useful) then depending on the case form factor put an appropriate gpu in it, chances are it will need to be an under powered low profile one but you will be able to play moderately new games at reasonable framerates but you likely need to drop settings down to make it a good experience.should be well below $1,000 and could easily be cheaper than a console if you want to ultra poorfag it.
>>722285798you honestly recoup that loss in emulators and steam sales. nintendo never does sales at all and steam sales are typically more generous than the 10-20% off you get on consoles
>1700-2000you don't need to spend that much. with a last gen gpu and cpu you can easily keep your budget around a 1000$ unless you're doing stupid shit like buying a luxury motherboard or paying for windows.
>>722290475Steam sales are nearly identical to ps store sales though. Nintendo just sucks
>>722290204>Also pcs do more than gameAnd here we go. I want to play video games. Consoles are literally built and designed to just play video games. They even having streaming services now if I really wanted it for some reason. A decent PC that can do more than 2D indie games does too much, which jacks up the price. I can 90% of everything I want on my phone. I don't render video. I don't do design. I don't NEED to do all of that. Just want to sit down, play a game, then turn it off. That's it.
>>722285798Ddr5 fucked prices up, now CPUs are 80 bucks more, ram is 50 bucks more and motherboards are 80 bucks moreYou could get a perfectly fine 1080p 60fps machine that smoked any console for 500-600 bucks on am4
>>722290554You watch movies on your phone? You write essays on your phone? You file your taxes on your phone?
>>722290761>file taxesNot everyone lives in a third world countryWe haven't had to file taxes for decades upon decades
>>722290761You can do all of that on a 400 dollar laptop. And if he had a ps5 he could watch movies on that
>>722289990Play on low settings or spend more. A 2060 (or a 2080 if you're feeling extravagant) should cover everything at playable framerates without breaking the bank.
>>722290761That's why I said 90%. All you need for the other stuff is a Chromebook.>HURR DURR IT'S JUST A BROWSERPlease tell me the first app you open on your Windows and MacBook. Now tell me what app you open the most on your Windows and MacBook. It's the web browser and you do everything through those anyway.
>>722285798what video is that gif from?
>>722291091A 2080 would fry itself on modern games. And pc is filled with hackers. Pc sucks in general for gaming
>>722285798Every time I spend a lot of money on PC or PC gaming related anything I completely loose interest. I was a more "real" gamer when I was a poorfag
>>722291170>A 2080 would fry itself on modern gamesNo it won't. The 2080 will throttle before it starts doing any damage to itself with high temperatures. You're thinking of the 4090, that actually will fry itself if you use cheap cables. You can't afford one of those anyways, so that isn't a concern.If you meant it won't run fast enough, yes it will. You just play on 1080p medium settings instead of 4k high. >hackers vastly overblown problem that also exists on console
>>722291419Hackers don’t exist on console. I have never ever encountered a spinbotter on console. I got on cs2 yesterday and they were banning people left and right. Yeah I didn’t mean it would fry itself literally. It’s just these days a 5080 is pretty much a bare minimum card to run anything with the least amount of stutter and bullshit
>>722285798A PS5 or Series X is just a way better value for playing current gen games and not dealing with constant issues getting something to run properly. Having a PC too is useful for playing older games and just general purpose tasks but I wouldn't waste a fortune trying to build one for high end gaming. You can get a decent computer for like $300 as long as you don't need it to play anything made in the last 10 years or so
>>72228579814600K - $200B660/B760 - $15032GB RAM - $1009060 XT - $3001TB SSD - less than $100case+cooler+PSU - less than $300you can play all games on this setup
>>722292480we've already moved the goalposts to "pc is full of hackers" in babby's first troll thread, try to keep up
>>722291667>It’s just these days a 5080 is pretty much a bare minimum card to run anything with the least amount of stutter and bullshitWhat game?
>>722292559i don't care what OP thinks because he's already convinced himself PC gaming is le bad but there are certainly other anons reading the thread who have no idea what to buy or how much a decent rig would cost
>>722285798>he doesn't have a PC alreadyyour loss
>>722292480B-but you have to buy a keyboard and mouse and monitor and headphones!
>>722292086PS5 Digital Edition is $500Xbox Series S is $379PS5 with disc is $550Xbox Series X is $600The 2TB Xbox Series X is $729.99PS5 Pro is $749.99No matter what you pick, it costs less than a PC.
>>722289819>so console it is>he doesn't know
>>722292086Last 5 years. Stuff from 2015 will run just fine on a 750 ti.
>>722285798You could always just get some cheapo used machine on the side in addition to your consoles. I got a machine for free that's great for all sorts of indie and old stuff.
>>722292659MGS delta at least was one bad offender. It was stuttering more on a 5090 than a base ps5
>>722292763A pc that would even match a pro is like 2000 dollars.Sony knew they could get away with it being 750 even. GPUs these days are that much alone
>>722293667Why not just play MGS 3 if you hate stutters that much? Me personally, I'd just live with stutters if I wanted to play it that badly.
>>722289819>This minority makes it a rule.You are a faggot lover, aren't you.
>>722293808you can build one for the same damn price you retarded niggergive a benjamin or two more and you can drop in hardware that will beat ps6 pro next year
Console is nice for casual play because half the players are stoned or kids and you can pubstompPC is more fun for anything else. It really is better. Any excuses are cope.
>>722294418Because I like smooth controls and good graphics with current gen loading times.>>722294835You still didn’t get the console experience
>>722295203if that's what you like they won't be found with consoles
>>722295203>Because I like smooth controlsFair enough>good graphicsMGS 3 looks fine to me>current gen loading times.Even a ten year old mechanical hard drive is going to run laps around the 1x DVD drives MGS 3 was designed to load from. You will get better than current gen load times playing old games on an SSD.
>>722295203console experience? is this what you call accommodating your low iq?
>>722285798a PC can be used for other things besides gaming
just build a $500 pc you brainlet
>>722295935>just accept what brownoids accept
>>722295782Yeah but on that stupid master collection version every time you quit to the damn menu they make you wait through 30 fucking seconds of Konami and Kojima logos. Makes me want to throw a brick at the wall
>>722295417Bull shit. I know how good it is.>>722295787Maybe so. I’m lazy and just want to get into a game. No hacker, no shaders, no nothing
>>722295845>The reason someone who wants to play video games should spend thousands on a PC is because it can do things that are not playing video games.Gee thanks anon
>>722285798The thing about lying is that anybody can do it. $600 to $700 still remains the average entry point. The only way to get close to your figure for a gaming PC is with prebuilts.>>722286032
>>722296415if you're spending thousands as in $3k+ on a pc you're getting performance a console won't get until a ps6 pro at least half a decade away from now
>>722285798You only need to spend that much to play games on max settings. You just need to stop being a lazy faggot and build it yourself instead of falling for the prebuild tax.
>>722285798>Build is going to be in the range of $1700 -$2,000+It doesn't have to be that expensive. Just spend a few hundred bucks
Just reading the thread for the few genuine posts. Are prebuilts really that much more expensive than building yourself?
>>722286032I don't play multislop because I'm not brown. I do agree that PC is better if you're a turdworlder poorfag though.
>>722285798you're paying for performance and other frilly premium shit you dumb niggerif you want pure price to performance you can cobble together a 9070xt build for $1200 that beats consoles on that metric and that's pretending all the pc features don't add any value
>>722296824prebuilts always try to jew you on one or more parts like the psu that don't grab people's eyes like the gpu, also come with mountains of bloatware, and if something breaks you won't know what the problem is
>>722288945Jesus.
i just use whatever im blessed with, was thinking about getting a 1440p but im not sure if it has a DisplayPort port so i will just have to use the standard hdmi
>>722288945Makes me feel better about my own build retardation over the years, thanks anon
>>722288945
>>722296921Still have to deal with pc problems though
>>722285798>Cost doesn't start with a 3Smells poor in here
>>722297482your ability to solve them scales directly with your IQ so who cares, get filtered
What's the point of these retarded threads demonizing PC and evangelizing consoles? Anybody dumb enough to be influenced by what you're saying is already going to a console player.
>>722297592You dont want to work on your car for every thing that goes wrong? You got filtered.... Dont want to build your own house? TV? Shoes? Filtered.
>>722289819>thinks console isn't infested with cheaters
>>722298842Its not
>>722298616retardconsoles are the equivalent of choosing not to have a car because you're scared of having to go to a gas station and refueland in the end you come up with copes pretending there's no difference because both walking and driving will get you from point a to point b
>>722299036Everything in your life was built by someone besides you. Cars, houses, gaming devices, phones, bridges, buildings, roads, etc. Why would you start now?
>>722299916because i'm not a moron like you and computers don't confuse me?what a retarded non sequiturthere are literally no drawbacks to maining pc gaming if you're not fucking braindead and taking advantage of the platform comes naturallysaying there's even 10 minutes of maintenance per week is still overstating it and yet this is what you consolecucks have based your goyslave identity on
>>722291154some south american mcdonalds branch created a bunch of gifs
>>722300232There are genuinely people who live on pc for work, I don’t think they want to fuck with one after 8 hours of their job, anon. Consoles are very welcoming. Pc also doesnt get timed exclusives like spiderman, wolverine, gta 6, yotei, any of the final fantasy games on release, etc. Hell PC didn’t get Astro bot or even Gran Turismo 7. Or demons souls remake.
>>722286032As much as i like my piracy, it always makes me laugh when pc gamers proudly claim it if not paying for copyrighted software is somehow a benefit of PCs and not a moral failing.
>>722290761All of that can be done on a phone
>>722285798>Finally build your $2k overpriced shit>ok I want to connect these cool bluetooth controllers to play some emulators for example>they just don't work for some fucking reason and have to used a connected xbox one controller insteadWOOOOW Master race am I right? Can't even do something fucking simple like connecting a controller.
>>722300647>There are genuinely people who live on pc for work, I don’t think they want to fuck with one after 8 hours of their job, anon.they don't have to you dumb niggeras i've said, there's less than 10 minutes worth of maintenance per weekand you get freedom, multitasking, mods, infinite compatibility, better performance in returnit's a fucking no brainer and the only way you can justify consolecuckery is if you're genuinely that stupid that those few minutes give you anxiety attacks>timed exclusivespc can play games from every single fucking platform eventually, there are less than 1000 games in existence that a pc cannot playoccupy yourself with thatexclusives are a kike practice and only actual low iq impulsive niggers fall for timed exclusive fomo, especially when it's singleplayer
It's good that we have a thread for all the dumb people to loudly pronounce how dumb they are. Keep at it boys.
>>722300868none of that is done even remotely comfortably on a phone
>>722285798So don't spend that much. You aren't locked to a particular build
I just like the form factor of a console and ease of use. Nothing is stopping me from juicing up my PC my PC, I think, last thing I putin there was a 1060 years ago. But I just like to flop on the couch with a controller.Like is this really just me? I keep seeing these comments. "At this point just go to PC"? What point? Have people really been "poorfag coping" with consoles and don't just prefer them and made that decision?
>>722300969better make it $2020 with a bluetooth dongle, smarty pants
>>722301196going on tirades about how much pc sucks and consoles are better usually has a bigger motivation behind it than "I like sitting on the couch," yes
>>722301085It's easy for me. And my younger cousin, he does all his school essays on his phone. Maybe youre just too old.
>>722285798>game requires at least a 2060 or whatever>it's shit>actually good indie game can be played on a potatowho cares lmao
>>722293667>buying top of the line hardware to play a PS2 gameI was running that shit on a 980ti a decade ago. What's wrong with you?
>>722301581You weren’t running the remake.
>>722294597>MinorityBro, Battlefront 2 is literally unplayable on PC -- and forget just competitive games, these niggas cheat at fucking coop games and ruin them.>>722298842It's literally not until they crack/homebrew the console and then it is truly open season and multiplayer is ruined like 360/PS3 era stuff.
>>722301001Timed exclusives are a real thing though. Nobody wants to wait 5 years on some. That’s insane. You spend that much on a pc and you still can’t play them years in advance. Also couch pc gaming is not feasible. It’s just not
>>722300313That explains why Ronald looks so wrinkly
>>722301749>plug pc into tv>equip wireless controlleryeah it's just not
>>722301480I could do it at a gunpoint Can't imagine being such a techlet that anyone would prefer this shit, tiny screen space, slower, harder to switch tabs and manipulate media, big phone gui tunnel visionEven something as simple as using this website where you type and do basic formatting is significantly worse
>>722301687I didn't pay over a thousand dollars to play the same game but prettier, no
>>722285798>$2000+you niggera PS6 ($700), 8 years of PSN bare essential ($80 x 8 = $640), 8 years of electricity ($3 x 12 x 8 = $288) would total cost $1628.a PC equivalent rig with a RTX 5070 definitely uses more electricity than a PS6 most likely double so $6 a month, so 8 years of electricity use for a PC rig would run you around $576.So you could MAYBE build a PS6 equivalent for $1000.With a PC rig, your gaming rig is also your standard work PC.So console gamers would have to shell out an extra $300 for a work laptop.So it would actually be cheaper to build a PC rig...BUT if I'm buying a PS6 to play F2P games, I pay $0 for online play, so the PS6 wins in terms of cost.For whatever reason, a PC is NOT more expensive than a PS6 or consoles in general.
>>722300969Yeah, connecting my PS5 controller to my PC was super difficult. Here's all the stops I had to take.1 press button on controller so it goes into pairing mode.2 select the PS5 controller in my PC's bluetooth devices list.I almost couldn't figure out how to do it.
>>722301749Then complain to publishers and game devs you buffoon?You realise this is an attempt at double dipping or a result of an exclusivity bribe? There's no underlying technical issues for the delayYou're actually citing a deliberately consumer hostile manoeuver as a reason to use a console like the good little consoomer goyslave that you areHow pathetic that you manage to side against the consumer
>building your own PC is as easy as putting together legos!
>>722302108>it's so simple!>it's like a free desktop!
>>722301196I've always seen PC gaming as just another nice additional feature computers are capable of but it's never been the main reason I've owned or used one. Kinda like how the PS2 and PS3 used DVD and Blu-ray playback as a selling point. I much rather just use a dedicated machine like a gaming console or a separate Blu-ray player for such tasks but I guess a lot of people just like having a device that can do everything even if it's not the best suited for it
>>722302058My PS5 controller keeps getting disconnected when I connect it to my PC.
>>722301812So what if your pc is in another room than your fucking living room?You wouldn’t need to pay over a thousand. A ps5 is $499.
>>722285798Your pic reminded me of this meme OP.
>>722296415If you're spending multiple thousands then you're using it to render CGI or some other shit that makes money. Gaming PCs aren't that expensive unless you're a retarded kid who falls for hype marketing
>>722302097You wanna know what is anti consumer? Selling graphics cards that are so expensive that would effectively lock people out of playing 60 dollar video games. A console allows people to play them affordably.
>>722290980>europoor complains they don’t have enough money for a pcTale as old as time. I don’t need to be in this thread any longer.
>>722302178>even if it's not the best suited for itit has access to significantly more powerful hardware and near every game in existence and the ability to fiddle and tinker with everything what the fuck else would you want?
>>722297482And unlike a console, you can fix the problems
>>722301816It's simple really. A person has a phone, wants to do something and then does it on the phone. It's alright if you cant though, we are free to choose after all.
>>722302376Consoles barely ever have issues though. PC it’s almost a daily thing. You got drivers, updates breaking drivers, shaders loading, hackers, malware in games affecting your computer(RCE, etc), etc.Playing a game on ps5 is literally turn it on. Press the game. That’s it
>>722302324A swing and a miss retardThey're expensive because they're powerfulA ps5 pro can be tied on price with equivalent specs
>>722302370Not needing to fiddle and tinker with everything in order to get said games to run would be nice.
>>722292763You will have to buy a ps6 in two years and it will cost $900 I’m not even joking.
>>722302097Just like how NVIDIA sells graphics cards that they could easily give you what you pay for on. There’s no technicality that’s actually making them sell you fake frames for 3000 dollars.
>>722300741kys bootlicker
When I was moving around a lot I sold my PC and after awhile bought a PS5 just because it was easy to pack. I gave it an honest try for about 6 months but it was genuinely an awful experience. Games would either run really poorly or look awful or sometimes even both, and the selection of games was pretty tiny even with the goypass. I ended up going back to PC once I had stable accomidation. I do wonder if I would still feel this way about the PS5 if I had never owned a PC, comparison is the thief of joy or something
>>722302504No, they’re really not that powerful. A 5090 would barely run MGS delta. They are so overpriced it’s not even funny. They get like 30fps in cyberpunk before fake frames are accounted for. For 3k, they ought to make fucking black holes.
>>722302490maybe you should use a computer first before parroting things you heard on the internet?
>>722302583Sure i'll kiss myself. Dont know what it has to do with my reply though.
>I can do all that from my phoneI can browse the web with a physical connection to the internet
>>722302539And the 7090 will be 10,000 dollars for 40fps native.
>>722285798Alright, fair call. I pay that much because I use my PC for a bunch of other stuff, which is probably the same way you justify paying enough for a phone that can also game.
>>722302636Oh it's this retard again You're comparing NATIVE PERFORMANCE to your consoles running shit at 720pThe 5090 is 3x as powerful as ps5 pro's GPU and it will be more powerful than a ps6 GPU that's still two years away
>>722302490>>722302527It is nice. Too bad you're letting memes stop you from experiencing it
>>722302490>turn on ps5>wait 5 hours for update cause your dogshit third world internet on WiFi>put game in >wait another hour for the game to install>oh god the game has to update>4 hours later can finally play game at 30fps with dips>try to play online>can’t afford psnow cause third world economy>shit post on 4chan on my phone insteadYou are now here
>>722302835And yet a 5090 stutters more than a ps5. A base ps5.
>>722302527You don't have to?You don't have a point of reference regardless
>>722302707Did you wipe the drool off your mouth before or after posting this?
>>722302636Cyberjunk was so broken on console that Sony delisted it. Worked fine on my machine
>>722302895So 30fps with dips is 60fps in single player and 120fps in multiplayer? Any downloading updates or installing is the same thing you deal with on pc
>>722302965Wait until you see games now. Everything these days is much more broken on pc than console. Pc gaming isn’t this great thing that it once was
>>722302907A 5090 won't stutter if you choke it down to running shit at a console level
>>722302987The difference is I can run shit at 200fps with a 165hz monitor. I also have stable internet because American and Ethernet. Something you would never understand. It’s ok that you are poor
>>722285798I built my first PC for 500$. Is PC significantly more expensive now or are faggots just adding the most expensive parts into one cart and crying that it costs a shit ton?
>>722303046Console ceiling is pc floorYou cucks laugh when pc people complain about performance when you're running shit at framerates and quality significantly below ours
>>722303109>200fps with a 165hz monitor.
>>722303192The op is baiting people because they get no attention in their daily life. Hope this helps
>>722303068So then what’s the point of owning one?>>722303109Anything over 120hz is negligible. Especially compared to 165hz. That’s nothing.>>722303192What did it have in it?
>>722303238Cause I didn’t spring for a 210hz monitor but I can run shit at 200fps. Why limit frames to 165?
>>722285798It's the same as with cars and washers and such. You can't really afford to buy a dirt cheap option if you don't want to be on the market for a replacement right the next year.
>>722303192This, my last computer was about $750 10 years ago and I still use it from time to time, don't plan on upgrading soon as there's really nothing it can't run that I want to play.
>>722303359framerate higher than refresh rate is just overworking your grafix card for no benefit
>>722303272>anything over 120hz is negligibleSave some copium for the rest of us. You play fps games with a controller and auto aim. Your opinion is less than shit.
>>722303272Because the 5090 won't see a comparable console GPU until 2032?
>>722303408>overworking your grafix First of all it’s spelled “graphics” and second of all, it’s designed to run like that. It’s not overworking shit. I am lazy and don’t want to go into control panel and limit every game to 165fps. Most games don’t have target fps in menus and bunch is fuckin horrible.
>>722300741i don't much care for grandstanding about freedom to pirate, but putting it as>moral failing to pay for copyrighted softwareis the faggiest way imaginable holy shit
>>722303046It's all the same shit with (arguably) nicer graphics. The only novel experiences now are indie games with dogshit visuals
>>722303630it's also "designed" to draw more power to run framerates you literally aren't seeing because your monitor can't display it. You're not only lazy you're also fucking retarded if you can't handle something so basic. Stop giving the console fag free ammo for his superiority complex.
>>722303721Not really, indies are a byproduct of the actual advantage of having a PC, developing your own stuff.
>>722303472A controller is better than mouse and keyboard. Carpal tunnel is a bitch. Cope carpie
>>722303806But I can use either on my pc. I’m sorry you have bitch made hands. Everything you are saying just makes you look like a fool.
>>722303560It’ll see one next year
I switched to PC last summer and never looked back
>>722303885Try using a controller seamlessly without it being broken like the rest of your hacker filled lobbies
>>722303806Just get ergonomic peripherals?Besides controllers aren't built to be comfortable either, they're built to be functional with just your own handsThey're not healthy for your thumbs at all
>>722303948You know you can own consoles too right
>>722303980I got over 1500 hours at GTAO playing with a controller and it never failed me once
>>722303915No it won'tMidrange console udna will be weaker than a 5090 and that's 2027 retard From there the pro will beat it years later when you can get an equivalent GPU for $400 just like what happened to ps5 pro
>>722303787Bruh…. I literally just told you I know how to limit fps. Today’s reading comprehension is the absolute worst. The thing is I obviously don’t care about the power usage. A lot of games I found are locked at 60fps anyways. I don’t play a lot of modern shit because I am not a faggot.
>>722303989Why would I do that lmao
>>722303980>retarded babblecontrollers are plug and play you retarded europoor
>>722304050Same. Bonus is I could drive with controller then get out and seamlessly use mouse and keyboard to walk around. Consoles could never dream of it
>>722304229Consoles are fun while also being specialized gaming machines.
>>722303681I can word it differently if it makes you more comfortable.
>>722304334You would know all about being specialized. Just like your education
>>722304407lmao rekt
does anybody else feel like the very state of owning a PC becomes a hobby in itself?i primarily use it for vidya, sure, but this week I>rearranged my cabling>swapped out fans>salvaged remaining data from old hdd>played around with SSD/HDD positions>currently working on fan curvesand i enjoy every minute of digging around in this bitch and looking for stupid peripherals to add in.
>>722304334>specialized gaming machine >lapped in power and library by general purpose hardwarespecialized for getting cattle trapped in the ecosystem maybe
>>722304520So when do you play games?
>>722304520Remember to give your CPU heatsink a regular tribute of blood by cutting yourself on it>>722304530
>>722300313thanks
>>722285798New Samsung Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra is around $1400. You can wait just a few more months and you should have enough to buy a gaming PC.
>>722304164Stfu stupid faggot
>>722304631>primarily use it for vidyaCan you not read?
>>722285798Then buy a console faggotWhat are you even complaining about? Good gaming is always expensive. Find a cheaper hobby if you can't afford it, get a better job, or learn to budget
>>722304678This is what someone says when they get exposed for not knowing what they are talking about.
>>722304334>specialized gaming machines.Yes, whatever you put in will work, as long as it was made for that specific system, within a very specific timeframe, with in parameters you have no input in because you were not given a choice for better hardware.I personally don't have an issue with consoles. I have a PS5 and switch. My beef is that they're fucking overpriced, and STILL charge you for basic shit like online play. Nintendo charges you to use its emulator. How do you not get pissed off about that?
>>722304374nah don't sweat it anonit's just silly to use points like WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR LICENSE HOLDERS? because poorfags and misers continue to not care, while """ideological""" pirates only get more righteous in their indignation
>>722304530>libraryNot necessarily true, sure if you count emulation but still, consoles offer plug and play which is a plus, PC is more of a single player machine too.
>>722285798Anyone here needs a new PC that supports Windows 11 just like me?
>>722304919????Everything ranging from new games to shit from before you were even alive is playable on pcThis isn't up for debate, consoles only offer a narrow slice of new games and popular older ones
>>722304973You can get extended support for windows 10 till October 2026. Why is no one talking about this? It’s all just doom posting faggots
>>722286635>Anyone who was primarily console gaming from 2005 - 2019 was either a kid or an idiot.well most games that were worth a damn WERE being made for consoles in the early 2000s to mid 2010s anyway
>>722304804I don't like that, I would rather not pay to get dripfed games I already own but having them on a machine that just works is what's making me pay for all of it, even the Deck that offers a streamlined experience has certain compatibility problems.
>>722285798Test
>>722285798you don't need a high end pcI don't know why people keep falling for the high end meme>get a 10th gen+ dell desktop from the dumpster or ebay for 10 bucks>get a mid-high end gpudoneequal or better performance than pro consoles, no monthly fee bullshit and freedom to play whatever you want
>>722304973I just finished building mine. What pisses me off is that I'm thoroughly convinced my 1070 still had at least another 5-6 years in it. There was nothing wrong with it. On the bright side, I'm going to use the old case specifically for storage. I'm using the old internals to make a nice cheap HTPC/emulation station.
>>722305025>everything>except new onesWell I use consoles to play the new ones, why should I wait
>>722305153I still use a 1070. Haven’t run into a game I haven’t been able to run. Was even able to run silent hill 2 remake which surprised me. People don’t understand these modern cards are actually pretty weak and just hide it with ai dlss bullshit. The 1080ti is still outperforming modern cards
>>722304912The point was more that so openly presenting a crime when trying to sell someone on PC gaming is odd regardless of mine or anyone elses opinion on it, but i assume i phrased it poorly.
>>722305194Ask the corporations why they're doing it?Hint: it's greed and by buying the console versions you're doing exactly what they want
>>722305058because despite the assumed familiarity with software, most /v/irgins are still plain old retardseven besides the various gutted pirate distributions, it doesn't take much effort to jury-rig a solution for your preferred version of windows, but idiots with ACTIVATE YOUR WINDOWS watermarks can only fight on the battlefield of pushing "update later" every single time they boot up the system
>>722304719You only described maintanance activities. As far as i know you spent zero time gaming.
>>722305289Piracy is not a illegal. No matter what companies want to tell you. It’s file sharing that is.
>>722305289>has a problem with crime>as he post on /v/ the loli porn board
>>722288945>>722297402Same.I may have done dumb shit with my builds and upgrades in the past, like not securing extra hard drives, or bothering to install I/O plates, but at least I was never THAT bad.
>"Go to PC"Yes
>>722305412Whatever you say, anon. I dont need a legal higher ground for it anyway, im just a cheapskate.
>>722305390What does “primarily use it for vidya” mean to you? Those are just other thing you can do that are fun. It’s kinda like working on cars. Something your faggot as would never understand. You can stay inside and play with your Nintendo.
>>722305532At least know what you are talking about before you open up that cock vacuum you call a mouth
>>722304973Yeah I bought a cheap one this week for $250 just for daily use with Windows 11. It only has a Radeon RX 550 in it. Will I actually be able to play games with that?
>>722305556Sometimes i want a Nintendo, but i dont like Mario enough. What games did you play in that period anyway?
>>722303989I still have my Xbox so yeah I do
>>722305316Well yeah I want to support corporations to make new games
>>722305617Shut the fuck up you bot nigger.
>>722305613It's just acquiring games without payment, you dont need to justify it by pretending to fight the companies that make them, i dont judge.
>>722305615>Radeon RX 550It has models with just one fan, that means it's not powerful enough for gaming. Sorry.
The next generation of console will cost AT LEAST $1000screencap this
>>722305703Guess you didnt play any games then.
>>722305713My logic behind it is, why would I pay for something that I can easily get for free? Morality is subjective and you are a retarded bitch for paying for something you can get for free.
>>722305615You can easily play competitive shit at 1080/60fps. CS, anything from blizzard, fortnite, you won't have issues.Any higher, and you can start playing most AAA games with at least medium settings
>>722305757I have a wider range of games to choose from than you. All for free you bitch ass nigger. This is the last attention I am giving you. Good luck being so alone you had to make this bait thread just to talk to someone.
>>722305674It's not the developers that are responsible for itThe publishers are being paid money to keep the games exclusive because of how good the pc platform is
>>722305810I'm not bitching about it, i approve that mentality. It just strikes me as awkward to promote it so naturally. I'd assume it be best to keep it on the down low.
>>722305903I didnt make this thread, my first reply was this one>>722300741I'm happy you got a wide assortment of games, though i sure wish you'd tell me which ones you played this week.
>>722304520in physical terms desu not really, the occasion where I need to ever really get into the guts of my pc is very rare. I love the process of building but it's something I've only done 4 times over the span of 15 years.
>>722303192depends on when you built it, if it was in the 10s then yeah it's somewhat more expensive now. if you built in the mid 00s then no.
>>722305957I speak loudly on it to piss off devs. I say “you made this? I made this.” And there isn’t a single thing they can do about it but cry spilt milk that nobody paid $70 for their game and just stole it. Lmao get fucked.
>>722306097I played session, binding of Isaac, street fighter 3rd strike, katamari, Mario odyssey, all on my pc. I could keep going.
>>722306234I appreciate that level of pettyness. Keep those high spirits.
>>722305945It's good for the users yeah, but the corporations can't make that much money while giving their consumers all that freedom, it's a necessary evil.
>>722306339Nah i'm satisfied. Didnt knew anyone still played 3rd strike however.
>>722285798bullshit, homoyou could by a console-priced PC and it will still be 20x the value of a locked down shit box consoletroll thread
>>722306352The bonus is when it gets taken off stores or the always online drm servers shut down or have bugs, I still get to play the game and I don’t get randomly logged out. Fallout4 wanting you to use creation club? Never had to deal with it cause pirates didn’t auto update. Super hot removing scenes after 5 years? Not my copy! It’s honestly better to pirate. It’s like paying for Hulu. You get tons of ads and limited selection while the pirate watches whatever with no ads and episodes don’t get pulled for “being offensive”. To this day you can’t watch south park episode 100 through official means. Don’t even get me started about mangas and English translation
>>7223064873rd strike is THE FUCKIN GOAT. I main Akuma. Still play fightcade all the time and has a thriving community
>>722306539build an equivalent pc for 499
>>722306663You seem passionate about this, im almost jealous. Although i feel mangas are more of an accessibility thing, being nearly reserved for Japan and all. But maybe that changed, idk.
>>722306702Well that's nice to hear. I played it briefly, mostly with Makoto. I was terrible though, must have won 5 in like 40 online matches.
Why do PC-ucks feel entitled to be sold Sony games after wasting over $3000 to run Indies and poorly emulate console games through piracy? Why is wasting thousands upon thousands of dollars and you having access to the brand new expensive, barely bench marked hardware on the market be a "litmus test" on what classifies a device as a "weak" console that doesn't deserve games, especially when its been tested for at least a year/has a better benchmark on what it can and suppose to do? Is this the reason why PCocks are constantly made fun of, because you lack honesty and feel entitled to something you don't deserve?
>>722286635>Anyone who was primarily console gaming from 2005 - 2019 was either a kid or an idiot.Or just someone who didn't want to play the worst version of multiplats.Seriously, what happened to PC ports in the late 2000s and early 2010s? They were almost always broken as hell.
>>722307389(You)
>>722285798>Yeah, no.Ok. So what's the problem?
>>722307389We don't want snoy """games""" on PC. sony just keeps bombarding us with them, like biological warfare.
>>722286737>$20 a monthA year, bro
Last time I spent money on a PC, the most I paid was about 700 bucks. plays everything I want, and since I dont' care about AAA trash made by industry trannies, it's served me well.
>>722307489Do'nt you have a game to go beg for lol
>>722307616>Do'nt
Imagine being too poor to afford a Switch 2.
>>722307769>Slopwars Outslop
>>722307769Switch users are the gamers I legitimately don't understand. If you want cheap gaming you'll buy a used PS4,Xbox One or a low end PC. For for high end gaming you can get a PS5,Series Xbox or invest a good PC. All I see from the Switch is low end gaming with expensive prices and I guess portability as an option. I can't imagine actually playing games in public though so what's the point really? Just playing overpriced Nintendo exclusives?
>>722286168ok rich saar
>>722308467>PS5>Xbox Series X>>>>>high end gaming
>>722308563I don't hear any of them complaining about the performance of recent games like Borderlands 4 and the Metal Gear remake. Better hardware doesn't matter if the games are poorly optimized
>>722308907Can't complain about performance if their games are already running at 360p.
>>722307616No I emulate
>>722307769I don't think I'll ever get that game and I own those two systems, same with Cyberpunk.
>>722286168We need to stop letting poors exist. Just torture them all to death and replace them with machines.
>>722311731The problem, is that a system failed them.
>>722286168this, there needs to be a cap to how much you can post a day before needing a 4chan gold membership to be allowed to post more
>>722312131The system isn't supposed to benefit the peasants, it's only supposed to benefit the real people, the obscenely rich and powerful. They are the rightful owners of the world, and if they want to torture the entire universe to death, they should be free to do so.
>>722294971true
>>722300647>Hell PC didn’t get Astro bot or even Gran Turismo 7But a PC can play a bunch of PC-exclusive racing sims that are arguably better than kazunori yamauchi autist car collecting adventure 7, and emulate every racing game in existence from every era of gaming.
>>722314852I mostly game on Xbox and I would love to tease you about all the great exclusive games on my console but damn I don't think the Series X has had even one exclusive game in 5 years. Sad really. I enjoy owning the thing but it's hard to justify why anyone should actually need one
>>722286635>Its like having an expensive carYou can't easily change your vehicle's engine, so at that point people upgrade to a better vehicle.Your example works better with consoles,than pc, especially now that the new Xbox and PlayStation will cost $900 or more
>>722288945>BUILDING A PC IS EASY BRO ANY RETARD CAN DO IT*a retard does it wrong*>BAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A RETARD
Pc parts can be bought over timeyou can hunt for sales or used parts to save moneysaid parts function many many years and theres no console generationsIts not like you have a good alternativeConsoles cost a lot of money with subs and more expensive games + you cant do pc stuff on them. Sure many people use a smartphone as their pc replacement but theyre not gamers.You're not playing unteralterbach on ps5 anytime soon.
>>722316395>*a retard does it wrong*>>BAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A RETARDliterally nothing wrong with this
>>722312629Based. Fuck these faggy collectivist faggots lmao they'll never live the luxurious life people like Epstein ever lived.
>>722302187>plug extension cord into pc>plug other end into tvWOOOOOOW LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE I WAS DODGING
I always laugh when i see games getting review bombed because PCfags bought a game that their PC cannot run. Poor souls, fell for the "cheapest gaming device" meme, funny thing is that their machines probably costed more than a PS5 lol
>>722316962There are limitations with any PC motherboard though to just how far components can be upgraded. PCs do have have generations as well usually based around operating systems. Like DOS,Win3.1,95 and 98, XP,Win ,Win 10 and now Win 11 could all be considered different generations. The difference being basically any PC is usually capable of running any of software of older models in some manner
>>722318148That's one of the nice things about consoles. If a PS5 game is released 5 years from now you basically be guaranteed it will run properly on the machine. There is no certainty though that a PC being used right now will be capable of running that same game 5 years from now correctly. Consoles will all inevitably reach a point where they no longer get new games but until then you can be assured anything you buy for it will actually work
>>722289819>playing matchmaking slopI feel sorry for you
>>722285798you didn't look hard enough
>>722285798Retard doesn't understand it's only expensive at the beginning. Upgrading motherboard/cpu/ram is pointless these days (you can keep them for 10 years, you'll be bottlenecked by gpu anyway), and gpu upgrades every 4-5 years aren't expensive when your old GPU will retain most of its value. Plus all the money you'll save on cheaper games.
>>722320464the 1700$ is exactly about buying the reasonable parts instead of shit thats weaker than 3080 from 5 years ago5070 is really the minimum for playing AAA games now and the next console gen
>>722286635Retarded analogy. Decent cars cost 10-20x more than ultra-enthusiast PC.
>>722286168Its far too late. We're overran by poor 3rd world fags.Ever notice how games with any traction on this board are either gacha or a game with no drm that can run it on a potato?
>>722298964Cronus Zen is literally DMA cheats
>>722320545just add 200ish bucks to swap 9060 to 5070
>>722320464If only they stopped giving retarded recommendations all the time on that site.Good concept terrible execution.
>>722320724so then you add am5 mobo, 32gb ddr5 ram, 750w psu, 7800x3d cpu, case, cpu cooler, gpu mount support
So, what's the "just right" number of cores/threads for gamers these days?
>>722318148>Buys cheap PC>Pays $60+ for gaymesThat is a HUGE mistake normalfags make.
>>722321057games hardly use multicore even today so 6 cores very rarely cause issues so thats the budget option8 cores come with the desirable x3d cpus but they'd perform similarly with 6 cores
>>7223210576/12 is sweet spot, in general newer 6core CPU will be faster than even 16core older CPU in gaymes.
>>722315676I got a dirt cheap series S last year and I'm having tons of fun with it. like I legit didn't expect it to entertain me this much. all the Gears games at 60fps, DS3 at 60fps, dead space 2 and mirror's edge at 60fps, it's like I got a free remaster for some of my favorite games. I also got death stranding which is cool. game was released literally the day before I got the console.
>>722303630Retard doesn't even know that capping framerate to 1-2% below you monitor's refresh rate improves latency massively, kek.
>PC gaming is expensive!!this is poor bait
>>722286032This.I paid about 2k for my pc during the Wiiu era and it still runs everything I've needed to no problem, along with all the other utility that comes with a pc, and access to piracy, not double paying for online multiplayer.
>>722300741I only pirate old shit. The kind of shit that if I did pay for it the original developers wouldn't be seeing any of my money anyway, either because those studios are dead or bought out by a giga company that now takes their money instead.
>>722285798This is why poor people stay poor. They buy a cheap pair of boots rather than an expensive pair that lasts over a decade and they thinkntheyre saving money. Groid mentality.
>>722311731this but unironically
>>722288945>signed you up for some gay black dating
>>722316395nigga my severely autistic (as in he can barely talk) nephew was able to build one.
>>722322084Is that a decent upgrade over the RX 550?I got a cheap PC that could probably use some updates
>>722286032>last you longer than a console generation would.Not anymore, really. Console gens are so long by now that you have to upgrade around the time of console releases as games will make use of that new technological standard.And then you will spend another ~400-500 bucks just for a new GPU
>>722323608if you bought into am5 at launch you will be able to upgrade it to an x3d cpu that will remain unbeaten until ps7 and you can just drop in whatever gpu you want
>>722323445my secondary PC has a rx580, It can still play pretty much all of the games out there. I played through Cyberpunk 2077 back when that came out on it. You don't have to get the rx580 specifically, I'm sure you can find a dozens of different gpu models with comparable specs for under $100. You can slap a gpu like that into any PC made in the past 10 years and you're good to go playing basically all of the games. the only exception being Unreal5 games, probably.
>>722286635You're crazy. Low spec gaming is more viable than ever before thanks to good upscaling algorithms. You can play all new games at 60 fps and looking ok with a 2060, a 7 year old gpu
Don't care about your whining retarded consolecuck fag, playing Dying Light the Beast on max settings with no upscale shit on 1440p native and it's glorious.
>>722285798you can play games on pc for fairly cheap if youre not retarded
>>722289819>Playing games where cheaters are rampant
>>722285798is your console going to last you 10 years? Are you prepared to count the combined cost of 10 years subscription to their online services?
>>722316395>Any retard can do itWhich is why it's so funny when a person somehow fucks even that up.
2k really is generational wealth to the average thirdie
>>722286737>I just want to sit down, turn the thing on and play the game.Then go hang out on reddit or some other website for casuals
>>722286737Just $20 a month?! What a steal!
>>722322084>Getting a used GPU from 8 fucking years ago that has already aged like milkYou people are retarded.
>Spending $2k on your favorite hobby machine every 5 years is le bad because... Uhh... That's like 50% of minimum monthly wage, and that's... A lot of money...?Can someone explain to me why we're even having this neverending console vs pc price debate? Both are cheap hobbies that any working adult can easily afford.
>>722285798Post specs so we can laugh at you. An average entry level build is 500-600€ , which is b9tg cheaper than a PS5, plus completely BTFO of all consoles.
>imagine paying to use your own internet that you're already paying forGod I'm glad I'm not Indian/Brazilian
>>722285798its not pc vs console its gaming pc vs pc and console. Also you can get a gaming laptop for $800 that plays the newest games.
>>722285798my build was like $800 and is likely to last me over a decade.
