>Series that revolutionised the SRPG genre by having your chess pieces be unique individual characters you would develop a parasocial connection to, instead of blank faceless pawns you feel nothing for>A game where every character is an annoying retard designed by a low-tier vtuber artist>It's such a disaster they unironically had to make Three Houses 2Genuinely, what the fuck were they thinking with this game?The only reason this series is alive when Advance Wars is dead is because people care about keeping Lyn or Lucina alive as opposed to letting generic tank #346 explode. Why did they go out of their way to make a game with no characters you'd want to keep alive?
>>722331310—What do you think the genre of Fire Emblem is?>Kaga: I call it “roleplaying simulation.” It’s a new genre. Basically, it’s a strategy game. But strategy games typically are kind of “hardcore” and dry. (laughs) You only care about winning or losing the battle, and there’s no space for the player to empathize with the characters or story.>I love strategy games like that too, but I also love RPGs. By adding RPG elements, I wanted to create a game where the player could get more emotionally invested in what’s happening. Conversely, one of the drawbacks of RPGs is that there’s always just a single protagonist. Thus, to a certain extent, you can only experience the linear story that the game creator has prepared for you.>I wanted to create a game where the story and game will develop differently for each player depending on the units they use. Thus I added the strategy elements and arrived at this hybrid system.—And do you feel like you accomplished what you set out to do?>Kaga: I think I made an RPG that borrows the frame of a strategy game. The battlefield is like a strategy game, but each character is a protagonist in their own right, and you can actually get attached to them, making it closer to an RPG, I think.Kaga understood this from the start btw
>>722331310"we want the genshin audience"
>>722331310It's a product of the success of FEH. It made them over a billion dollars so they tried to bring gachapigs into the mainline series by spamming it with crossover slop, adding gacha mechanics and introducing the SP-based skill inheritance system from FEH that gachapigs would be familiar with. IIRC they even said in interviews that it mainly exists for FEH fans.It failing as hard as it did practically saved the series from a very dark future.
>>722331310They wanted that turbo-weeb audience that enjoys garbage like genshin and vtuber shit.
>>722331310>listen to trial of the sacred>its actually ephraims themeI can accept Lyn as “Emblem of blazing” because shes the only bow user but>ephraim got robbed>robin got robbed>azura got robbed in the dlc
>>722331310Fire Emblem has been trying to court otaku to various success for years nowEngage is them overstepping
https://files.catbox.moe/5qxb6o.pngdamn, ch11 anon grinded Azura hard
Which FE girl would make the best mother?
>>722331310My schizo theory is that Nintendo pressured them into making a more kid friendly game after 3H took a darker turn.
>>722332124Catbox links are for porn images.
>another engage seethe threadthese fandom is fucking dead
>>722331310>Why did they go out of their way to make a game with no characters you'd want to keep alive?They took the wrong lessons from Fateswakening and thought people liked the quirky fotm anime personalities so doubled down on it when people actually just want to creampie Lucina because of her designPeople liked the characters in spite of the writer, not because of themThey took away the popular character designer and doubled down on the shit unfunny supports
>>722331903>It failing as hard as it did practically saved the series from a very dark future.I got to say I was very worried that this shit was going to kill the series one way or another and I am hopeful for tge future now
>>7223321804chan region blocked my country overnight...
>>722332129They've confirmed Engage was made for children but there's nothing to suggest Nintendo made them do it. This is the same company that made Shadows, its perfectly in the realm of their retardation.
I actually want to creampie Lucina because she's a hero.
pot chapter so no Elise....
>>722332296Damn someones mad. Theres plenty of games with rainbow colored little girls for you to waste your life savings on buddy
I love my wife, Annette. Playing a shadow run for the first time and it's really fun.
>>722331554It's kind of crazy that no other series apart from Fire Emblem can actually follow this. Every other "FE-like" series either has worse gameplay or an entirely throwaway cast.
>>722331903And the best part is since nobody liked its OC characters it has starved FEH for content for 2-3 years now and put it in its dying throesThey are still relying on the same 3H and Lyn alts they have been since 2019 In a weird way Engage is both the best and worst thing that happened to FE, worst because it's where gacha slop invaded the mainline games but the best because it did so badly that it has mortally wounded FEH and shaved a few years off of its life span, it had its worst performing month on record multiple times this year, it's actually going to be dead soon
>>722332550On paper it really shouldn't be hard to make an FE clone but there has to be something to it because of how many failed attempts there have been. Honestly I think the support system has a lot to do with it, when in the hands of a competent writer you can develop huge memorable casts.
time to bench the oddhttps://files.catbox.moe/xaru7l.png
>>722332550The only other series Ive ever like as much is the shining forced and its not nearly as deep.
In the immortal words of the creators of Fire Emblem Awakening:"We don't know why people like Fire Emblem"
>click a catbox link and don't get sexy fe girls naked on my screenMy disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
>>722331554>>Kaga: I call it “roleplaying simulation.” It’s a new genre. Basically, it’s a strategy game. But strategy games typically are kind of “hardcore” and dry. (laughs) You only care about winning or losing the battle, and there’s no space for the player to empathize with the characters or story.Uhhh gameplaybros? What the fuck is this shit?
Shadows is gonna have to add Lucina, Camilla, and Edelgard back to back if they even want to last until the end of this year.What an absolute gigabotch of a launch.
>>722332938Good, I hope all of their mobile projects fail and they put that development time towards real games instead
gave def to a decent bunchhttps://files.catbox.moe/5kb47q.png
>>722332853That cant be a real quote, r-right?
Marriage with Marianne!
>>722332753Who else are you going to bring? Mozu??
>>722332550iirc Unicorn Overlord sold about as well as Engage did, and I played both games, but honestly I couldn't name more than 5 Unicorn Overlord characters from memory even though the writing and designs felt much better at the timeFE has some weird magic
Gun Nun's daughter
>>722333050are you going to train peri? what's your plan for the apothecaries and pots near ryoma?
for being FE fans, you guys sure do hate FE a lot.
>>722333103UO's problem is that the central conflict isn't interesting so it's insanely hard to create characters in that world that are interesting.
>>722332919It's ludokino, you fool.>Story makes you care about characters>Don't want to sac all your faceless dudes because there are no faceless dudes
>>722332919It cuts both ways. Storyfags like to pretend that gameplay, but there's a reason Fire Emblem has cultivated the fanbase it has over the years, and not a fighting game or a racing game or something. And a lot of that has to do with getting attached to a scrimblo's gameplay (and design). You think Ameliafags like her because of her deep characterization?The fact of the matter is, Ayra has a ton of fans and she barely ever talks.
>>722331903> It failing as hard as it did practically saved the series from a very dark future.While I mostly agree with what you said, FE is already in a very dark present. The series is a disgrace and a shadow of its former self. I don’t even consider it a SRPG anymore, just a glorified VN with puzzle based combat minigame in between the cutscenes.
>>722333203There are 17 FE games that aren't Engage sweetie.
becoming resilient to anal>>722333084Haitaka, mozu is sadly lvl 1>>722333148bust all the post and dual club Cowmilla
>>722333103Unicorn Overlord has basically zero overlap with Fire Emblem, I don't understand where the comparisons come from apart from>strategy game that isn't like FE at all>blue haired sword lord that gets kicked out of his kingdomI only played the demo, but this was nothing like FE at all
>>722332919Unironically, the secret to Fire Emblem's success. Strategy games are a high autism genre but making the chess pieces relatable or interesting lowers the autism bar and makes more people willing to give it a go.You need people to care about their chess pieces and you need the gameplay to be challenging so that they feel like their chess pieces are in danger. They have really struggled with striking this balance recently.
>>722333203I want to make out with Lucina's gorgeous pussy.
>>722333103That's definitely a (you) problem. UO handled its characters pretty well. I'd say it felt like a classic FE before the support writing got bloated, generic, and shit.
>>722332919Kaga made the only game in the series that has perfect gameplay story ludo harmony so idk why you're using him to come at gameplaychads.
>>722333273Amelia and Ayra ain't popular, dude
>>722333103The best part of the game is it's art. at the time of release, people were saying it's a clone of FE1. I got bored and couldn't finish it and can't say if the ending was similar, but the start is basically the same.
>>722333203I love FE so much that I can't stand to see its corpse being defiled over and over again with each new entry.
>>722333282I never said anything about engage.
Ayrabros it's our time
>>722333624That's the only game people are complaining about.
>>722333384It has a lot of the same story beats and I would even argue the gameplay is more similar than people let on. Both games have these incredibly decisive, one-sided battles that are partially automated, and both use small, coherent numbers for the calculations. No sine operations or obfuscated bullshit.Which is why it's ironic when UO gets called an autobattler by FEfags.
>>722333203No just engage and heros for turning the series into gacha and crossover slop were classic character just become costumes and powerups. To be fair I didnt think the ds remakes of shadow dragon were that good either but thats another story
>>722333574I love FE so much that I'm excited to see new takes on the formula because every FE game has something that makes it worth replaying :)
>>722332938Shadows only exists for FEH content. It's a game they can continuously add new characters and lord alts to that they can then sell in FEH. It literally only took them like four days from Shadow's release to add Uma Lyn.
>>722333729Awakening did crossover slop first, thoever
>>722333787Then Fates did more crossover slop, even
>>722333530Yes they are. I can tell you're a Heroesfag to be saying this retarded shit. They've always been fan favorites. Can't speak to the shitty botted gacha, but fans like them.
>>722333787And thats the part of the game I rrally dislike. All the side shit was really dumb
>>722333103The gameplay was sadly rubbish, it was really easy even on hard, and the permadeath really adds the weight decisions needs for FE, even if you can just reload back to the start of chapter the threat makes it feel like your choices matter.
>>722333843Not him but I am a Heroesfag and he is insanely wrong, one of the best performing banners this year was Legendary Ayra, whose banner did so well she outperformed a double banner that introduced both Emblem Femui AND Umamusume Lyn at the same time. JP fans love her.
>>722331310I loved it, and will not be touching the ugly brown sandy desert game coming up next. What a horrible aesthetic
>>722331903>IIRC they even said in interviews that it mainly exists for FEH fans.you do not recall correctly.it's a sentai themed fe that was directed at zoomers to convince them a tactics game can be fun. that's it. I can tell you're a former feh addict because your entire view of the series is wrapped around gacha conspiracies.
BWChttps://files.catbox.moe/i12ply.png
>>722333934She's literally always been beloved by hardcore fans. No one would have doubted that if you said it a decade ago. I assumed his basis for saying so must have been some Heroes horseshit. I'm middle of the road on her myself and firmly don't like Amelia but even I'm not going to deny reality.
>>722334009go play blue archive or something then retarded gacha pig
>>722333756Its a gatcha. Why do you need another gane to do that? For years we had Ike or Roy dressed as their dad's and any character in a bikini. If you wanted horse pussy lyn just do it and no one would bat an eye.
>>722334047Ok lold
>>722332938>Game with no gacha mechanics earned lessI mean, yeah? There's really no incentive to buy anything in the game unless you desperately want Lyn early.
>>722334109Because people complain about them adding too many FEH OCs. Making a second FEH lets them keep doing it but pretend the characters aren't FEH OCs, and brainless gacha slaves fall for it.
>m-my IP range has been blocked from spamming images so please click on my Twitter links!Do you seriously think anybody is doing that bro
>>722333934Athos hard carried that banner, tho>Mythic bonus defense unit>Fans have been begging for him since Mythics were announced to begin with
>>722334248I don't have a Twitter account is the funniest part so I couldn't even if I wanted to
>>722334248I did once to report him lmao
Of course I wish Engage's designs and writing were better but I still found the game super fun so what do you want me to say? I even felt something when Framme died in my ironman despite not giving two shits about her as a character and finding her annoying. Because I had been using her since the start of the playthrough and built her up from nothing. That aspect of FE is still present because it's possible to get invested through challenging gameplay that puts your hard worked units in danger.
>>722333736We're not the same, I know. I'd rather get a few games made by someone with a vision than a company struggling to appeal to its own fans and pumping out half-baked cash grabs every other year.
>>722334306The game is unparalleled in its gameplay I daresay, it is my most replayed Fire Emblem, and unlike Conquest, I feel at ease playing it while still feeling challenged, particularly as the game goes on.
>>722334259He really didn't. Two seconds playing arena this week would should you that basically every player has L!Ayra.
>>722334402>by someone with a visionSo Kusakihara and the Fodlanverse gamesHis are the only entries since Awakening that weren't one and done crossover slop
Fire emblem
>>722334402Thing is, I can't say any FEs are genuinely bad. Except Gaiden, I really couldn't get into it. SoV was fine.
>>722334489Kusakihara has a vision for the stories of FE but for gameplay, he's just "let's copy Echoes again"
We have to cope with our lack of mozu somehow, right...https://files.catbox.moe/0c009i.png
>>722331310>Why did they go out of their way to make a game with no characters you'd want to keep alivebecause anime sales so they made anime. Blame the weebs and the people who spent $100 trying to get bikini robin in heroes
>>722334420No shit, she's one of the most recent Water legendaries. That'd be like saying everyone has Legendary Camilla, because she's very prevalent on Water week.
>>722334497Triangle Strategyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFj6T9lOtM
>>722334589L!Camilla did do extremely well too. You know who you don't see much on their bonus weeks? Diamant and Sakura, because nobody cares about them and so nobody has them.
>>722334559FE has always emulated the most popular anime designs at the time. People who said Awakening's designs were retarded 10 years ago say that they're iconic now.
>>722334619The only good looking black female in the entire franchise
>>722334402
>>722334683bro hapi is literally a character
>>722333072I know pic related is a real quote about Engage.
>>722334589>PEOPLE DIDN'T ROLL FOR HER>O-Okay an absurd number of people did roll for her b-but it doesn't count because....
>>722334729Doesn't change what I said.
>>722334674>say that they're iconic nowI really don't see people saying that, much less people who thought they were retarded at the time. Awakening was an oldfag killer and Nowi still looks like a little slut.
>>722334674>emulated the most popular anime designs at the timewhen the fuck were 3h or engage's artstyles ever the popular mainstream?
>>722334489Ill take a vision over Kumoro’s daddy issues story #29.
>>722332938Contrarian ass /feg/ actually likes this shit btw.
>>722332550I bring it up all the time but Reverse Collapse definitely gives the FE gameplay and roster feel without being some cheap ripoff. It’s the only game that does so (that isn’t from Kaga) imo
>>7223348083H grabbing a growing otome audience, especially growing in the West with games like Love and Deepspace. Engage grabbing the growing vtuber and genshin style visuals audience
>>722334673Diamant has been absurdly prevalent the past 4 weeks at high level arena, did you even play last month?Sakura I agree hasn't shown up, but that's because she herself isn't broken, she just enables completely disgusting things by other units.
>>722334715
>>722334489Fodlan isn't bad, just half-baked. The "teacher MC" thing is passable but the inexplicable 5 year time skip sleeping in the ravine is inexcusable. It's like they tried to make their own version of FE4 but also tried to appeal to retarded persona fans (they succeeded).
>>722334995>Diamant has been absurdly prevalent the past 4 weeks at high level arena, did you even play last month?lol
>>722335027Post crowns
>>722334821>gachashitters like gachashit (ermm, ackhully it's not a gacha because...)color more surprised
given this huge def I think I'm better off not popping the potshttps://files.catbox.moe/awfjwi.png
>>7223348083HRT is the most bog standard otomeshit possible.It’s a game clearly intended for women given how everyone in the cast acts like a retard woman, and how all of the female characters are also ugly in order to be as non-threatening as possible.
>>722334306Yeah I fully agree with you.Celine is one of my most hated characters but I still use her because I like her class’s gimmick.
>>722334416Engage was really the perfection of pair up emblem and FX6 is IS’s masterpiece. The only reason I’m excited for 4W is because of their talent in this area
>>722334817>>722335020I'm not even slighting Fdolan, I'm just saying those are the only games from recent years that have even attempted to have a vision that wasn't just more MCU crossover slop.I'll be insanely disappointed if Fortune's Weave isn't mostly standalone but just set in the same world like the Kaga games.
>>722331310It turns out FE weebs aren't THAT weebish
>>722335013>>722335020
>>722335223Agreed. If Fortune's Weave devolves into a Three Houses wankfest past the halfway point the setting of the Fodlan games is dead. Building their first interesting world in years and then ruining it with crossoverslop is exactly what IS would do.
White Powerhttps://files.catbox.moe/atxwm4.png
>>722331310For Me?Its Amalda
>Crossoverwank is when game set in the same setting as another game references old game
>>722335405
>>722335498based 24 yo hag enjoyer
>>722335527No, crossover wank would be Dimitri, Edelgard and Claude showing up as major characters. Or Ike showing up in Fodlan. Having two games set in the same world is fine but they should be able to stand on their own merits. Depending on when the game is set it wouldn't even necessarily bad to had a few side characters from 3H show up but there's a line you shouldn't cross and basically every modern FE other than Houses jumped headfirst across it.
start of turn 9https://files.catbox.moe/xz7om5.png
>>722335527I mean...yeah? Multiply a given instance of that 100, 200 times and you get crossover wank. Awakening, in other words. Or Engage. Or Heroes.
>>722335561
Did you whine about Gaiden having the Whitewings and Camus too?Or Bishop Galle's background?
>>722335689
>>722335527you have to be classy with itvalentia and archanea have lore connections and a few shared side characters but both are basically their own thinggenealogy also has lore connections to archanea but again, it's just shared lore material and the actual games are their own thingfortune's weave having crests and nabateans but being set on another continent with its own problems would be perfectyou can set multiple games in the same world without going overboard on self-referential fanservice that adds nothing, that is basically how kaga treated his games, marth didn't show up in valentia and become a major character, you got the whitewings instead who are there for a believable reason and hint at the larger world without the game becoming about shadow dragonthe worst thing they could do with fortune's weave is have it become an appendage to three housesit sure use the strong worldbuilding and lore elements to tell a different story
>>722335665Not giving the guy with like -10 dodge a bronze axe is certainly a choice
>>722333712FE's story beats arent exactly unique
>>722335757
>>722335449Fuck Takeshi gon do?
>>722335995I don't even know why anons buy irons in these things. Bronzes are just better. E rank mindbroke the fanbase and they can't see it.
>>722335702>Did you complain about [lore information] or [3 of shadow dragon's 60 side characters believably showing up]Again, how would any of these even be remotely comparable to Edelgard, Dimitri and Claude showing up as main characters? That is insanely light touch shit. The equivalent in Fodlan would be Sothis existing and then having like, fucking Catherine show up. That's completely different. The crossover elements shouldn't become the point of the game.
>>722336076Well I don't think anyone is buying irons. Several units just start with them so we have them.
Does Perianon approve?>>722335995If he had a tad more skill I'd give him GAMBLE>>722336060Takeshi got crit, 60 dmg total
>>722336007Sara sara sara sara...That'll be it for now. Thank you.
>>722331903You keep saying this even though you are wrong every single time.
>>722335223The worrying parts about 4W is that they haven't shown off the avatar and that the Fodlan games always have a twist they reveal later in the marketing like timeskip or MC ShezI truly fear it's going to be Byleth again
>>722336318It's Byleth.
>>722334738They're not going to tell people to emulate FE4 if they want to learn more about Sigurd dumbass. This is just generic PR speak for "we hope people will play our games if they like Engage".
>>722336191that's fine.till next time
>>722336318shut the fuck up nigger you will S0ijack when you will see blyat and those memberberries
>>722336387>Lel pr speakBro they straight up told you to go play past games, how the fuck are you gonna do that when half the fucking series is still jap only?
>RD releases>DUDE MEMBER IKE
>>722335020>5 year time skip sleeping in the ravine is inexcusableI get the pressing feeling that the time skip was originally supposed to come from being trapped in the black dimension when Byleth fuses with Sothis. It would both make sense and make you get their advanced class at a more reasonable time than less than half the game. But they probably didn't manage to work it into the story properly with the route split. It's incredible in how many things you can see rushed issues in 3H, especially after the time skip.
>>722336478I gather reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
>>722336623Neither is yours apparently
>>7223365543h had many weird decisions.still wonder why gerald wasn't your jagen
>>722336318If it is a sequel and they have Byleth show up it should be as a Gotoh unit
>>722336675>Comes with the perfect Jeigan skill>Not playable>Only deploys for like 3 mapsIll never not be mad
>>722336675>>7223368523H had a jagen?
Awakening literally got me interested in past titles, and it it's proto-Engage. I played it and loved it so much that I then went on to play Sacred Stones, then Genealogy, then Blazing Sword, and on and on until I'd played the whole series. I think that quote that retards like to trot out isn't actually so fucking unreasonable. IS enjoys their games and their history and wants players to enjoy them too.Engage may have misstepped in some places, but I think part of the issue is that "modern" fans are just not interested in Fire Emblem. They shit on the old stuff constantly as grandpa shit and can't even believe you'd voluntarily play a stinky game from the 90s.
>>722336879No
>>722336915>They shit on the old stuff constantly as grandpa shitName 5 examples
>>722336915>I think part of the issue is that "modern" fans are just not interested in Fire Emblem.Pretty much. They hate "nu-emblem" but then you push them on what they really like and they either hate everything but like 3 and 5, or are just really irrational in their defense of titles with glaring issues like the GBA-era.
Cows>bushidohttps://files.catbox.moe/ktfkj3.png
>>722335020Dragons sleep for long periods of time regularly in Fire Emblem. You're definitely a fake fan if that's a big issue for you.Go home, gamer girl.
>>722337023It's so ridiculously common to see some retard aghast at the notion that anyone except hardcore fans could possibly care about Engage's memberberries. "Who the fuck is Sigurd lmao?" is the prevailing sentiment. You can't tell me you haven't seen this.I just saw a 3Hfag saying Fire Emblem didn't learn how to write stories until 3H last night.
>>722336673>>722336478Only the Jugdral lords are entirely relegated to FEH for a western player who refuses to emulate. Everyone else has had at least one translated game, although in terms of ease of access, you're mostly moving to a 3DS/Switch era game or 7/8 on the eshop.
>>722337023every 3H discussion ever
>>722333787Nah that was Gaiden.
>>722337142but you're not a dragon in that game, retard
uhmmmm..... ryoma dodged all the cumilla attacks....https://files.catbox.moe/qezpsp.png
>>722337282Definitely a fake fan.
>>722333648>our timeOf course it's time. She got a Vanaheim resplendent!
>>722337297You might as well crop some lewds into these catbox files because no one is clicking on them
>>722337142dumbass
>>722336675>>722336852Play the No Monastery + Fodlan Reborn mods. They're based.
>>722337142Retard
>>722337297>didn't bring odin to nostank the apothecariesit's over. maybe consider opening a chest and then leaving
Randomizers are the goyslop of modding
>>722337397What other playable characters does it add?
>>722337370eat shit braindead coomer
>>722337446I'm reminded I've spent considerable time arguing about the usefulness of nos Odin and chances are the people I was arguing with have never even tried finding uses for it.
>>722337554It adds all the characters that were dummied out in the files, so Jeralt, Rhea, and Sothis. Jeralt is your Jeigan for as long as he's alive, Rhea is playable in Silver Snow, and Sothis joins at the start but only in NG+.
UUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH I thought non/lords could escape too in nuFE....
>>722337370I'm following this btw. Keep posting.
>>722337838That's a big Dieck.
>>722337869Or a small Shanna
>>722337748https://files.catbox.moe/1prcby.png
I think.... there is going to be a massacre...https://files.catbox.moe/akvcw6.png
>>722337936Shelter azura and transfer dance corrin
>>722337936Uh oh!
>>722337869
>>722337936>>722338021gg
>>722338021Nigga, it's just a secret book. Don't kill the cow over it.
the first one....https://files.catbox.moe/59v83u.png
>>722338021Good job retard.
>>722338084...
got literally 69 crit'd by ryoma....https://files.catbox.moe/j53kwk.png
>>722338084Nobody important is down there anyways so it’s all good. It’s only bad if ryoma one rounds corrin
>"Oldfag" takes the save on one of the easiest chapters in the game>Immediately nukes the entire armyAll you dumbasses calling conquest easy all of the time legitimately suck
not clicking that stupid nigger
>>722338181Just escape holy shit
entrap......https://files.catbox.moe/2kzwdb.png
>>722338207I call it easy and I was literally about to do 12 (my favorite chapter) until the Chilean nabbed the save. Even he had a route to escape, he just ignored it. Oh well.
>>722338297Hope you can luck a kill on ryoma because you are fucked
>>722338207It’s really easy and you only need mommilla to stomp the game
>>722338297what turn is it? do you have to go for a hail mary play to kill ryoma?
>>722336852Also>makes true solos impossible in the most infuriating way possible
>>722338350He can actually just escape. Arthur is in range.
>>722338414No? Corrin needs to escape
>>722338451This ain't Thracia, buddy
>>722338480>>722337936
the is hope!https://files.catbox.moe/iwzk0y.png
>>722338359Good girls
>>722338539Oh yeah we're fucked Camilla is dead. Good job, dude
>>722338519I'm positive you can escape with non-Corrin units here. I don't know what's going on there. The objective doesn't even tell you to escape with Corrin, it just says "escape in 16 turns."
>>722338539only 2 deaths isn't the end of the world>>722338614i think that corrin can pair with arthur who can then move to the exit
>>722338614He can swap to soiled ass
>>722338614Cowmillabros...https://files.catbox.moe/hwbdsw.png
How sexy is female alear?
For one thing, why do you niggers keep sending Camilla off on these suicide missions without vulns? She's good but she's not quite invincible.
And arthur saves the run with his promoted move!https://files.catbox.moe/c54rpi.png
>>722338590>>722338359
>>722338656>i think that corrin can pair with arthur who can then move to the exitYeah I forgot Arthur was a berserker and has 6 move. Pretty mad about our god Beruka getting killed for no reason though
>>722338842
>>722334821Its more tactical than FE.You cant just park OP unit with 1-2 range lance/axe and let the game play itself.
>>722335958Hum, you forgot Camus showing up in Valentia...
here is the final savehttps://files.catbox.moe/5g1x8kso.... I truly did not know corrin was a must for this
>>722338942Another FE player that doesn't like FE. Weird how common that is.
>>722333674They also complain about the 3DS and DS games.Thats why so many see 3H as some kind of "now the series is good" entry.
>>722337380I wanna fuck that small sugar muncher!
>>722337023Just say literally anything critical about Fates, you'll get your five examples in a heartbeat.
Fates sucks
>>722338881can't believe these two still don't have alts
I hate Three Houses so goddamn much
yo fuck thracia
>>722338590>>722338842>>722338881>>722339149mogged by her mom, dad, and brother
Didn't Engage get triple fucked over by the rona? Like, actually for reals? Not in the please understand we're suffering from the rona even to this day bullshit excuse?
go cry about chapter 13 dumb-3hrt
ayyyyyyyyyy FUCK New Mystery
>>722339025But I like FE.Thats why I play Shadows.Looking forward for Umamilla.
>>722339084It's actually just all nuFE. Criticize 3H's story or character writing and you'll get a spiel about how FE was written by mentally challenged cavemen until 2019. Criticize Fates's gameplay or aesthetics and you'll get a spiel about javelin emblem or Tiki/Patty/dancer.Literally all of you faggots do this annoying shit.
>>722339149Maybe someday...>>722339249Louise/Clarine sex
>>722339249I'd love to mog her if you know what I mean
>>722339314You’re literally doing that right now but in reverse
>>722339314>Patty? Not sure what this is referring to. What about her?
I like engage.
>>722339339>>722339249>brotherwhat she wants ,really
>>722339391But I'm not. I love Fates, I also love the old games. Some I like less than others, yes, but I don't engage in the one-sided braindead "old bad, new good" or vice versa.>>722339413Hortensia's design can't be criticized because the female thief in FE4 wears a colorful hat.
>>722337838wtf zoro?
>>722334729I prefer Milfpi.
>>722339573I've literally never heard somebody say that. Patty doesn't look unusual at all.
>>722339314The Tiki argument is especially retarded because she is a single character across Kaga's five games. It is an unbelievably disingenuous argument. No, dragon lolis were never "the norm", Tiki was literally the only one in the series until the FE6 soft reboot.
>>722339631Then you've never had a run-in with Engage's most deranged defense force, count yourself lucky. There's an image macro making the comparison, I don't have it saved because it's stupid. I still like Engage for what it's worth.
>>722337397Link?
>>722337650Shez mod when?
>>722331310Is this the only way we can get FE threads going now? With stupid ass bait about Engage?
>>722338347Maybe you can save us on ch 13 because we didn't even get the armorslayer just now lol
>>722339804it isn't, sissy OP just can't help himself
Engage is top 3 for me in spite of some of the designs. I really don't like how some like Hortensia looks but the majority are fine enough to overlook it even with some slight retardation here and there.
>>722339804We waiting for more FW characters for the memes.
you are mentally insane
>>722339804I think it's a valid question honestly. In a lot of ways Engage doesn't understand the soul of FE despite being obsessed with the brand of FE.
>>722337548Randomizers test if you're truly good at the game you're playing. I fucking love them.
>>722339731Here you are doing it again
>>722339952Disingenuous questions are never valid.
>>722339875Porn for FW is gonna be wild
>>722339804It's a good question for a serious discussion if FE fags stopped bating for 5 seconds and acted in good faith.
>>722339816it seems we got the armorslayeri traded it to peri.
HEAR YE HEAR YE. THIS IS NOW A TRUCY THREAD.UNZIPCLEAN YOUR PIPESAND RETURN TO POST HONOR OUR QUEEN
>>722340006It's not disingenuous. It's valid to ask why Engage was so low effort with its characters when that has been what made FE stand out since the beginning >>722331554
>>722340027Despite the DLC usage this is probably the worst army we've had yet at this point in the game.
>>722339990>I like Engage>but I have some criticisms of it>erm, actually your criticism is invalid because Patty wore a colorful hat and Tiki had a short dressMaybe you're just fucking dumb, huh?
>>722340052Show me your panties
>>722340023>acted in good faith.Bro the OP wasn't even doing that in the first place. Why are you expecting good discussion when the OP is just writing off the entirety of Engage's characters and pretending it nearly killed the franchise?
>>722339804is it bait if it's true?
I love how engage fags can make all these anti three houses threads or spam the same shit in every FE thread but act like the victim when someone insults engage.
>>722339968Uhh no they don’t? They give random stats and nuke balance because some units (and or weapons) by chance are going to be totally OPA test of whether you are truly good is A, not having anyone die, B, winning challenges like low manning or non-reset LTCing, and C) clearing maps with dogshit characters
>>722339873the game doesn't pass my FE vibe check, nobody looks or acts like a real person in this game
>>722340112Actually I stand corrected the very first run ever had an even worse Corrin and got Azura killed so it's at least better than that
>>722340140kill yourself instead pedo nigger
>>722340153You can have good discussion even in a bait thread. Fucking Monhon fags can do it. FE tards are just addicted to bait
>>722340172>I love how engage fags can make all these anti three houses threadsPost the last time we had one.
>>722340205>Grown woman>PedoBut rope and end it all
>>722340205Boring
>>722340172It's punching downWe all know Engage bombed and is deeply flawed, we all know it lost and they made Three Houses 2You don't have to rub it in
>>722340027>only got Peri to 11You should get her to 13 on pots, she’s really underrated (don’t respond to me Arthur nigger)
>>722340241Post the last time you didn’t cry about 3Hs.
>>722340235You can but I'd prefer we didn't have to get threads started with blatant bait. But I guess this retarded fanbase is more obsessed with fighting each other than actually talking about the games.
I mean honestly there has been more actual discussion here than the previous thread as opposed to the last one which was just the usual Engage Thread affair of inactivity and two dudes posting Engage's dog ugly girls
>>722340205is that how you cope with the fact that men are attracted to fertility?
>>722340372Kill yourself trannyanne spammer
>>722340275She's basically a second Silas. Slightly worse, actually, because Silas at least has supports and stuff by now.
now that's an exquisite bait
>>722340372live yourself
>>722340407Sorry but its true, the moment we enter Engage hours everybody leaves
>>722340404easy your drawing will never be real and the day of the rope is coming you annoying lolicon
>>722340015>If it's a sequel, Claude fucking won and opened all the borders>If it's a prequel, it explains why Fodlan is so closed off
>>722340372Damn that thing is hideous
>>722340275I'll try and train her. does attack stance give generic crit avoid? does that apply before or after arthur personal?
>>722340372I'm just glad after three years of it it's finally coming to an end. I miss active /v/ threads where people actually talked about the games.
>>722340184Base game is already solved, and you don't have to randomize weapon stats. Try again.
>>722340286So nothing?
>>722340235You also have to consider that a lot of what you see as "biting at bait" is a samefag who is unhealthily obsessed with a game he hasn't played in a franchise he also hasn't played.
I will never play Fates, Three Houses, or Engage.Absolute dogshit CRINGE games for trannies.Suck my dick Personafags.
>>722340480>Nino>Loil
Boo at least post trannyanne praising edelshart if you wanna make those retards feel bad for liking that dogshit character.
>>722340508>does attack stance give generic crit avoid?Pretty sure it doesn't and only defense stance does but I don't think about that too often so not sure.
>>722340413Initially yes but usually Peri gets better offenses than him in the long run. Usually I ditch Silas myself after a while because his growths are so mediocre in every single area so he's never anything amazing but Peri at least gets a niche in more offensive cav that can really benefit from dancing.
>>722340372>engage's dog ugly girls>posts mariannethe irony is staggering
>>722340563HOLY BASED
>>722340372Ugly bitch
>>722331310The ass was fatThe gameplay was goodRelax, it's all good. If all you want is the aesthetics, Unicorn Overlord shat all over the entire FE franchise in that regard.
>>722340675Every engage girl is uglier than marianne.
>>722340662Peri has basically identical stats aside from a very minute speed advantage and worse physical bulk
>>722340482Not only is it a prequel, it has to be.
>>722340526This is all the seethefag’s fault for ruining /feg/ for years. Anti-engage schizo was a direct response to that
This fanbase doesn't know what the fuck it wants but I know one thing for sure at least: it isn't good gameplay.
>>722340372I love how much she makes Engagefags seethe. Literal side characters from 3H are 10x more beloved than anybody from Engage
>>722340761nigger lol
>>722340797Anti-Engage schizo was never even one person in the first placeThere is one guy who posts the same anti-Engage memes every thread but that poster is the same one who used to spam the Edelgard fat/fart fetish art, he's just a run of the mill shitposter with no allegiances to anythingThe people who outright hated Engage were usually just random individuals
>>722340775It's a dumb comparison anyway. Nobody uses Soilas in Cavalier line long term, it sucks. Peri joins when you want to be transitioning to strong midgame and lategame classes, which does not include Cavalier.
>>722338347I didn't know only corrin could escape! I took all the treasure and planned to espace at turn 15!
>>722340960And Silas gets ninja from Kaze which makes him way better at that
>>722340825Put that shit all over me.white women literally cannot compete.
>*gets a statue before Claude, Manleth, Lysithea, Marianne, Bernadetta, Felix, Dorothea or Sylvain*
>>722331310We need a fire emblem with anthro girls.
god I want to drink female piss...
>>722341028They can.https://files.catbox.moe/qx2566.webm
>>722341020Camilla should be in ninja
I will laugh if nigger nephenne is better written than tiniggera lmfao
>>722341104>Female CorrinI shiggy
>>722340987I guess I didn't know either. I could have sworn it was anybody could escape like in the Eternal Stairway. I think it's because I always have Corrin ready to go in that general area, and nowadays I tend to kill Ryoma rather than try to escape anyway.
>>722340775They're gonna be close when Peri joins but I wouldn't really say they're identical, there's enough going on to make each character distinct.
>>722341062There’s been like 5
>>722341139Wait that requires male corrin I'm retarded
>>722341053does sothis have one?
>>722341208Or Kaze, I'm double retarded
>>722341196Peri is low effort and does well on 12/13/14 with no investment
>>722341053not really surprising
>>722341028Kek what a brown game.
>>722341204actual anthro or just kemonomimi shit?
>>722341315God I want to fuck her tits and cum all over her face Just as a joke
>>722341053They really nailed the "girl in high school who was nice to you but also a big slut and roped her firends into also being sluts" look with her
>>722341053I will not purchase a statue of any character without either an anime C cup or greater OR a barely covered perfectly flat chest
What prevents a Fire Emblem fan from getting invested through gameplay? Is it low IQ? It has to be right? Because they're basically calling every Japanese fan who enjoyed FE1 and FE3 wrong.
>>722341308That's the biggest thing, her bases are good enough for her to coast for a few chapters even with shitty levels. Silas would kinda need to get good levels to be usable during that point in time, or at least he'd need a reclass.
while playing FF Tactics i am wishing that the units had a bit more personality. not as much as FE where they get lots of cutscenes, but just a little more. I wish they'd make a new Tactics
>>722340508I'm thinking about doing something like thisit builds gaurd gauge and then the knight hidden within this wyvern will be stuck not able to attack elise.i would heal her before i clicked the button but I'm not seeing an issue really.
>>722341092She lacks the attitude which is 60% of the sex
>>722341181>I could have sworn it was anybody could escape like in the Eternal Stairway>I tend to kill Ryoma rather than try to escape anyway.Same, camilla missed twice against ryoma so I couldn't rush him confidently, I had everything ready to kill or escape with the loot but... it was a corrin escape
>>722341484Wait but Reina?
>>722341540you're right.
>>722331310IS had been making slop and getting away with it ever since Awakening. It was only after KT showed us that things could be better with 3H that people woke up and said enough was enough.
>>722341420I do think it's nice when characters are more written than one sentence of dialogue, but I am fundamentally opposed to this modern ethos that good writing means every random yokel needs intensive backstory, lore, and 15 support conversations. I think there is an art in subtlety, in withholding information. It is not a thing to be praised, that 3H's script dwarfs the rest of the games combined, or whatever bullshit it is that 3Hfags say in praise of its length.
>>722341420The presentation.You can be invested by the gameplay and absolutely repulsed by the presentation (nothing wrong with FE1 and FE3 on that front)
>>722340508Honesty for chud scrimblos in Fates the best course of action is actually an early promotion. If you promote peri as soon as chapter 12 is over and go Great Knight she gets a huge boost in stats right ofd the bat and gets good pair up bonuses. She also gets a lot of options for weapon so you can pivot her later into another class. If she ever falls off just marry her off and have her support the childI wouldn't do Paladin, tho.
>>722341695>I wouldn't do Paladin, thoBut Paldin gets an actually good skill and GK doesn't.
>>722341671I think the overabundance of support conversations in modern FE actually hurts it more than helps honestly.
>>722341778Yeah I'm fucking sick of it. I'm full. I had my fill with Awakening and they keep heaping more helpings on to my plate. More characters who talk less and do more, please.
>>722341828GBA/SoV supports are the good amount I think
I love Shamir
>SoV supports >good kek
maybe someone has to burn down the whole basedbean stock in asia for masculine characters to make a return
>>722341936fuck off
>>722339804We’re waiting for more FW info.
>>722341965You got a bot setup to automatically reply to me or are you this obsessed?
>>722341128Timerra is just female Raphael but she also screeches songs, she's arguably the worst written character in all of Engage
>>722341593i think this solves it. only one wyvern can reach elise this turn and she has a guard gauge
>>722342080>/v/ is more than one person
>>722342125She dieded :(
>>722341951good amount. you reading comprehension lil bro...
>>722342108also sung to move silas out of the way so jakob can heal here as well.
>>722342226
>>722341963>We lost a possible gladiators fight for their freedom through battle in part 1 and then repays a lord savior by helping in their war in part 2 ala Ogma for 3 browns and a white boi emblem.
>>722342323>4 skillMy little sister is blind... But she's so lucky she ends up hitting anyways.
>>722342225piss off nigger, there is a reason of why everyone memoryholed SoV cast
>>722342226I’ve gooned to her before but I don’t remember her name or what game she’s from
>>722341773Defender is just 1 (one) point and the key problem with Peri is that her HP and defense doesn't help make the cut for a Frontliner and she's nowhere near as fast to double everything the game throws at you on her own. You're better off making her a great knight, set her up for something like Wyvern Lord via Xander or something, and imprve her raw ability to frontline, rather than having her be a middling character with no key strength.I ran her Paladin side last time I played and next to Silas it was embarrassing. She had like only 3 or so speed on Silas almost 10 defense less, less HP, and the same atk. Their speed allowed each to double the same things, but the gap in defense was greater. You're better off going for raw stats in this case.
>>722342401Her name is in contention here
>>722342427I think you're better off not fielding her. Why on earth would I need an early promod GK?
>>722342401lelum
>>722342391I do not care what the masses think about the cast. SoV had the best support system in the entire franchise (short convos in battle + longer collectible scenes).
>>722342226>>722342349larum is pretty cute.
>>722342376I'm seeing 100 hit here as long as she sticks to the accurate tomes she should be fine.
>>722342632keep coping deluded fag
>>722334009How is your dad handling it?
>>722342632i love the echoes girls but lack of supports really hurts
>>722342658Yes!
>>722342696hopefully all goes well elise personal should help.
por and nm are the only games that did support convos right
>>722342632I hate battlefield supports, having a casual conversation on a battlefield is fucking dumb and leads to stuff like Forde fucking painting while surrounded by enemies on the map. For me, PoR had the best support system.
>>722342703Are you here just to vent your frustration by throwing insults? Just so you know, SoV mogs your favorite FE game
What, you don't do a little plein air while the world is crashing and burning around you in a hail of arrows?
>>722342795shame she doesn't seem popular in jp
>>722342941go seethe at your poison swamps SoV tranny
>>722342225>good amountit was amazing how the starting villagers refused to acknowledge the existence of half the others
this franchise will die thanksfully. Every other nintendo games feels like it was writen or co oped by a westerner for some reason. Hopefully this is the poison that will destroy Fire Emblem forever..
>>722342818well it went fine except i have no clue how to deal with reina now.
>>722341092Look at this faggot-ass bikini. Put her in some real clothes if you want me to respect her.
>>722343259Retard-chan tanks that. Elise/Odin can escape and pair into Kaze and Azura, and everyone else should be able to get out of range too. That's what I see anyway.
>>722342532Early promoted chuds are the tits, specially if they have powerful promotion bonuses. You suddenly turn a useless piece of garbage into a frontliner and thanks to children units you get their replacement just when they begin to wane off and you still will have them as pair up bots.Level 10 promoted Elise (you can heal staff grind her, Arthur, Selena are wonderful choices.This is fire emblem you need the power in the "now", not "later". Lategame Xander will come and solve the game for you.
>>722343259>Me when I bite off more than I can chew
>>722343259i think my only option is to retreat and hope the situation is better next turn.
>>722342125Sex. She wants sex
>>722341420So you're saying every Japanese fan who enjoyed FE1 and FE3 couldn't possibly enjoy it for anything else? Shut your retard mouth.
>>722343245>Every other nintendo games feels like it was writen or co oped by a westerner for some reason.Well, yes. It's called nintendo treehouse.
>>722343436There are enough regularly good units that I'd just rather not waste the master seal unless I have something in my for their kid or something. And GK certainly isn't providing that.
>>722343484Is retard even threatened though? Seems like you could bait Reina towards the center with her for a while, take off some of the pressure. I don't know it's your turn.
>>722343631even retreating he nearly died. he would be toast if he stayed down there
>>722343581You're not exactly scarce in Master Seals or money tho, since a lot of the key units are already promoted. You can afford to dump one or two. However if you don't feel confident in using your resources in a different way and can't think of uses you may get out of them, you're also free to play safe and go through the 10 year old game the exact same way you have for the last decade. It's all fair.
Since we're discussing Chapter 13 and promotionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jguzWev3Puc&t=355
>>722343942>HePlease don't misgender retard-chan
>>722343942Well at least they choked themselves up like that. Easy solve now.
>>722343981>However if you don't feel confident in using your resources in a different way and can't think of uses you may get out of themI do do things different. I just don't do things differently for no reason that give little to no advantage. GK Peri sounds like the least desirable one I can think of.
>>722344000I do this in personal runs but it would be retarded in an ironman of course
>>722341053People think FEH is accurate but it's not, among casuals Hilda is a lot more popular than every 3H side character other than maybe Lysithea
>>722343942because of dance and peri personal reina gets doubled.i hope that retard-chan doesn't activate dragon fang or else she dies if the next enemy hits.
Post boys gettng pegged
>>722344248no dragon fang activation we're good.
>>722344315This is why you remove dragonfang, retards
>>722344248>didn't heal her with Jakobanon...
>>722344248>>722344315Retard-kun....
If a support chain isn'tA) Extremely funnyB) Tells you something important about the world that changes how you view the conflictC) Revealing about the nature of a character and how they relate to the world and conflictIt shouldn't exist. Just cut it from the game.Most Engage supports fail this test. If it isn't one of these it exists for no reason at which point why the fuck are you even writing it?The Support system is great and functional (I would argue its what elevates Fire Emblem above its clones because it creates better characters) but Awakening, Fates and Engage all have a total lack of quality control for it which makes people think it's shit and has ruined its reputation.They need better slop control, the system itself is fine.
>>722344000I feel like this shouldn't have to be said, but please don't try to replicate this guy's hyper optimized strats in an ironman.
>>722344450>Extremely funny
>>722344571
>>722344315the dark falcon counts as a beast? i thought it would be like a wyvern and immune but i guess it's more like a peg
>>722344450the only reason you say "most" is because you're well aware there are supports in those categories and you get to pick and choose with your weasel language.
>>722344450Engage has fucking great supports.
>>722344450Fatesgage's problem is that the writers think they're doing a lot of A because they can't write B or C, but they're not actually funny
>>722344646>The reason you say "most" is because you're being fair and bringing up the fact that not every Engage support is terribleUhh, yes?
>>7223444503H is the same crap. I liked Petra as a unit but her supports just put me to sleep. Maybe you like learning Julien von Barlestein is from the dukedom of Nipplewich, which oppresses the Dusky people, and that passes your criteria for interesting writing, but I just don't care. It's a waste of life and effort writing and reading all this shit no matter how many names you attach to it and how much lore you surface over it.
>>722344750I expect nothing more than dishonesty from you.
>>722344681Engage on average has the worst supports in the series. Not only are most of them pointless, but even the ones that aren't a lot of the time leave the actual relevant information until A rank.This in turn means that it is introduced too late to be explored properly, and to even reach it you need to have already sat through two ranks of filler slop.From a structural standpoint they are literally the worst written supports in the series. Its why people stop reading them so quickly. 2 ranks of filler slop before you reach lore information in the third rank that is barely explored is awful fucking writing, its designed to make peopleot want to read it.
What's wrong with Tokyo Mirage?
>>722344961It's a fucking SMT game maybe!?
>>722344928Yeah yeah "Engage is the worst thing ever" do you have anything new to say?
>>722342696>31x2umm strategist cucks? our response?
>>722344961Absolutely nothing
>>722345034He's right though.
>>722345034>Doesn't even address the structural argumentSo I'm right then, thanks.
>>722345036the enemy has 2 resbaiting out takumi while the guard gauge is still there.
>>722345019What's wrong with that?
>>722344961The world wasn't ready for tsubasa's tits yet
>>722344906I don't remember a single support from 3H other than a comedy one that I didn't find funny. I don't think I particularly cared about any of the cast's backstories in my house and I just assumed that the other ones must be better based on how people talked about them.
>>722344450the problem is that IS want everyone to have supports with at least half of the castquality control wouldn't be an issue if characters had a max of 3 supports with characters that make sense for them to have supports with
>peopleot
>>722344151If you can't figure out how to make during chapter 13 an advantage out of a 30 HP, 18 Str, 15 Spd, 16 Def ball of stats that on pair up gives str, def and movement and that can use every weapon in the triangle right then I think you should stick to play things the way you always do.It's all fair
>>722340089NTA, I like the artist’s style, but something that felt odd with Engage to me is that the world just didn’t feel natural. It felt like a gacha crossover world, but still pretended to play it straight. I really liked the post battle map exploration, but something about the whole thing felt off.
>>722345019The fuck it is. I'm a fan of both series and the abomination resembles very little of either.
>>722345228Ch 13 is already really easy, is the issue. And then 14 is even easier.
>>722345034There is a very valid argument in that Engage's supports are structured badly though. They lack a hook and leave the "point" of the chain until the very end where there is no time left to explore the implications of it. Old FE and 3H both do this a lot better where they tease the point amidst slice of life stuff in C rank, introduced the point in B rank and then resolve it in A Rank. Engage's supports are like they are written by somebody who doesn't understand how supports are supposed to work.Even normies can feel it which is why they flagged up Engage supports being bad but not Awakening of Fates. They are written in a counterintuitive way that doesn't foster interest.
>>722345085what argument you're complaining that there's structure at all. you're a retard go peddle your crap elsewhere.
>>722345076>>722345085So no, you don't have anything new to say? Why'd you even respond?
yes we know Engage was an ad to Heroes hell even your shitty paralogues are written like a Heroes main story chapter.
>>722341028Why do black women cosplay as white women?
>>722345316The argument is still true. Engage is shit.
>>722345146>>722345284#FE is the proof that mixing two great things does not necessarily result in another great thing.
>>722344315Usually I just let Kazr solo the entirety of the mage squad, cross everything through ghe bridge and meet Reina and the horses on the other side and wipe them all out in a turn.I figure choking the bridges is too risky for the guy doing the choking.
>>722345316Because it's true.
>>722345187Petra's support about how she's an animal tarzan whoman who likes climbing trees or some stupid shit with Claude(?). Then it goes into some worthless info about her homeland that never has any bearing on the central story. I vividly remember that being one of my earliest unlocked supports and not even cracking a smile. It's got a lot of stuff like that in it. But I'm told this is interesting and this is what FE so sorely lacked before. Even though it's really just more Fates with a gloss of vons and burgs attached.
>>722345298somehow I doubt you're in tune with what normal people think.
>>722345373We've heard this before, how many times are you going to say it before you get it out of your system?
>>722345368There aren't gatekeepers for clothes someone can wear. Anyone could wear anything. I've worn a dress before (on a dare, admittedly)
>>722345305There isn't a structure lmao, that's why the supports are so consistently bad. It's milling around pointlessly for the first two ranks and then introducing what the support should have actually been about at the very end. It is both extremely hard to get interested in, and never has a satisfying conclusion.
>>722345431I would bet you money that I am based on how much people complain about Engage's writing and how unpopular its cast are. I've no idea why you think you're in the majority on this issue.
>>722345465It’s not about the clothes. It’s about the skin and hair.
>>722344928Look, I agree that Engage supports are on the lackluster side, but calling them the worst is the series is an obvious exaggeration. Since there are no paired endings, on average they are fitting for the characters, compare them to Awakening and Fates supports that are 95% just the characters repeating their usual gimmicks until the S support where they are now in love. There being a few exceptions doesn't ignore the fact that they almost all suck.
>>722345454In 20 years, I'll still say Engage is shit on this very same board.
>>722345413Pretty bad example because Petra is from BE and has to be recruited into GD.
9 out of 10 Engage supports:>C: Unfunny filler>B: Unfunny filler>A: Unfunny fillerThe other 1 in 10:>C: Unfunny filler>B: Unfunny filler>A: Actually interesting lore or character tidbit - whoops we're out of time! Wouldn't it have been interesting if the whole support was about this instead of unfunny filler? Oh well!Bernadetta's supports are written the same way btw which is why they are such tough reads, Bernadetta's lore is interesting on paper but her supports are executed fucking painfully
>>722345295Then why do you keep shying away? Let alone why are you trying to get me to validate that?Look I am a good player at this game. It doesn't matter the decision I make and how I spend my resource, my choices are always correct because I made them. I trust my judgement is sound and no matter what I get out of them I can always morph any situation in my advantage. Because I am damn good at strategy games.If you need me to agree with you to mail your insecurities go to a discord or something.
>>722345665I don't know what your point is. I got the support somehow, it exists in the game. Why? Did it need to? Or is it out of some compulsion to have more supports for the sake of more supports? If it's the latter, why does it exist? I guess to waste my time and annoy me.
>>722345140everything here should be fine. if they go for peri then the second attack is blocked, camilla they don't deal enough to kill and only 2 can hit elise who the second will be guard gauge blocked
For me it's still Tharja. ShamirAnon needs not reply.
>>722345549>I've no idea why you think you're in the majority on this issue.and you are? please point to me the normal people still obsessively posting about this game almost 3 years later.
>>722345791
Yes, I liked Annette x Felix supports.
>>722345397That's only because Nintendo told them to bin what their original idea was since it was just another strategy game. The Idolshit was the Plan B they made up after Nintendo basically told them not to make anything too like FE or SMT.
>>722334683i've been seeing alot of "im racist but that bitch is hot" with her. If only she can get some interesting dialogue. Really hope Shadows finds a way to get support convos
>>722345368gay z cheated on that....
>>722331310Engage has outsold Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles lmao
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>>722344906>>722345413This is just a symptom of the fact "bad supports" are bad for a reason and will always share the same flaws no matter the game>Unfunny but trying to be funny>What is the point of this for the world/plot/conflict>The point was introduced too late to be resolved successfullyYou will find bad supports from every game, they will always share these flaws. The problem with Engage is that the vast majority of its supports, even the less bad ones, are guilty of these things. The most guilty are the Firene cast who are all guilty of this in practically every support chain which makes normies stop reading supports extremely early on.Somebody like Celine is conceptually a good character but she doesn't have a single support chain that is consistently good and the interesting things about her are nearly always curveballed in at A rank and as a result are never satisfyingly explored or concluded. She has bad supports.
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>>722345925this but FW hatsune miggu
Never ask:>a man his salary>a woman her age>a 3Hfag what the gameplay is like
>>722345625I doubt it. You'll get tired eventually.
Good to know FE mutts are preparing to consume their DEI slop.
>>722346054>fe-sonota35
>>722346135>>a 3Hfag what the gameplay is likeMe placing Shamir in the middle of the map spamming hunters volley
>>722346135Seeing this thread I say you aren't a gameplay fag franchise at all.
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>>722345568Just say you dislike dark skin and cry about it harder
>>722346032I don't disagree but this is part of why I'm for dialing it the fuck back on supports, period. They've seriously become this out of control leviathan, a thing that exists only to justify itself, an end rather than a means to an end. It's empty writing most of the time unless you're already attached to characters. I realize this is an unpopular position and it isn't going to happen, but I think we should stop identifying good writing so much with MORE writing.
>>722346203Never have been, according to the creator of the series. >>722331554
>>722346192try that on maddening you idiotic spic
>>722345829again moving in with a guard gauge this time on elise
>>722345891Based femanon
>>722331310I like the characters in Engage and there are quite a few that I had a bad first impression of that I ended up liking alot. Also people like to meme about FE being chess alot but i believe the gameplay structure is more reminiscent of space invaders.
>>722346280weird coming from the guy who made berwick saga.
>>722346280That's literally not what he's saying.
>>7223460323H kinda has the opposite problem sometimes where the "point" comes in too hard and fast which makes them come off as preachyA lot of Edelgard's supports are like this but nobody talks about it because because overly politically radical is her thing but its weird when it happens with like, Sylvain
The fact you think nintendo and modern I$ will respect the legacy of someone who got blacklisted is the funniest shit ever, you inbred FE niggers.
>>722346280disingenuous argument
>>722346223
Annetteflix or Dimileth thread next
>>722346525
You read a handful of early supports and then pretended that they were all like that. Citrinne and Yunaka immediately start off with a hook to get you want to know more since Citrinne is already accussing Yunaka of being a dangerous element to the team since she knows her backstory.
>>722346525Why does Tine look so young here? Part 1 Tailtiu is only 16.
>>722346032>>722344906>>722345413Alright chuds someone with actual experience here.The core of the problem is that the support system is inherently flawed. It forces characters to only ever talk in 1 on 1 interactions, pigeonholes their roles since a player can only ever see so many in a play through, and restricts how characters can be written.Fire emblem as a whole has poor character development and shallow character depth, which is partially what makes these characters so popular because you don't know enough to dislike them but you know enough to get attached to them.If you want a series wirh a shitton of well developed characters, see Super Robot Wars Original Generations. In there you see like an entire platoon of 40 people interacting as a group and growing together and as a result of each other something Fire Emblem isn't allowed to do.
3H fags only care about 3H and only want more 3H because it's the tourist's FE
>>722346551kill yourself instead
>>722346324only one wyvern from diesinrev's squad left.
>>722340052More giant Trucy?
>>722345829>people want to say that 26 attack and 25 speed is badthat guy is so fucking retarded lol
>>722346589The thing you aren't mentioning is that most supports are not written like Citrinne/Yunaka chain. That's why that is the one example that always comes up of a good Engage support. It is one of the only ones and its because it breaks the awful structure that the other ones fall into.
>>722346597You forgot something important. SRW doesnt do permadeath, so its allowed to have game long plots for whoever happens to be the focus character for that game's plot.If IS gives up on permadeath then they'd be free to mix story development with optional side content (like in TMS)
>>722345859everything about her was perfect
>>722346551I might be biased
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>>722346589Yeah, there's lots of good tension bits like that, like Veyle-Hortensia too. Weirdly enough, the DLC characters have some good supports also.
>>722346882>>722346882>>722346882
>>722346727that's after a strength tonic personal activation (which doesn't stack with ralies) and +5str and +3 speed from pair up, all of that also known as giving best girl special treatment.
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>>722346772It comes up because its one of the earliest examples of a proof by contradiction whenever people try to say that all engage supports are bad. Trying to use broad statements like ALL will always place the onus on you to prove that what you claim holds true ror all instances.
>>722346280They really didn't like this one, boss
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>>7223464483H has several flawed supports but at the very least they are relevant to the world and not just repeating the same thing over and over. Claude/Leonie support is about religion, about two characters who outside of that rarely if ever talk about it, or how Hilda/Seteth is about him writing fables, something that's mentioned in other places, but it's not a cornerstone of his character and people not reading his supports may not even know it's a thing. Even if some of them are overly preachy, they usually have an idea behind them instead of simply clashing the characters usual gimmick. Except Bernadetta.
>>722346961>Trying to use broad statements like ALLGood thing nobody did.
>>722346772at least that's a specific example none of which you've provided to support your lack of an argument. I told you before I know exactly what you're doing with the weasel language. the second someone provides a specific example that goes against your narrative you shift into "well MOST aren't that so I'm right". nothing but circles with your dishonesty. you deserve nothing but belittlement.
>>722346781Plot-wise, Fire Emblem hardly do anymore either. Major story characters stay alive if they're plot relevant and that has been the standard for a decade.
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tiny
>>722347030that type of person (every leftist ever) is so fucking annoying.
>>722340372fucking ugly 3hrt troon!!
>>722347030>You admitted there was a good support that avoids all of the pitfalls that make a support badYes?If I was being disingenuous I would be trying to say it was still bad even though it fit the criteria. It's a better support because it has a point, explores it and resolves it.
>>722347045If you want something akin to SRW where even literal whos like Russel have mini arcs in their debut game then no one can die.
>>722347025SPIKE DIES!
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>>722346904the wyverns were also quickly taken outand as for the cavs all of them were killed by camilla
>>722347364Cute
>>722345919God can you imagine if we got a devil survivor esque game instead?
>>722346772Meanwhile Yunaka/Alfred is filler slop, Yunaka/Etie is filler slop, Yunaka/Louis is filler slop, Yunaka/Zelkov doesn't explore the point, Yunaka/Fogado is filler slop, Yunaka/Merrin is filler slop...Do you see why people say that this is a recurring problem with Engage's supports now? You struggle to name one consistently good support chain from a character let alone three. When every character has like nine supports that is a huge fucking problem.
thing are getting lewder but you'll all die for it
>>722345891Its funny since for all the bullshit about muh lore and shit its not Seteth Felix or Dimitri Felix his more popular support.Its the one with the meme song about nothing.
>>722347402one last kill for best girl
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>>722347429>Yunaka/Zelkov doesnt exploreDishonest fuck
>>722347494It's a humour support that's actually funny which is extremely rare in an FE game.
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>>722347571The support is them explicitly not talking about their pasts. It's shit and boring, a cocktease with no payoff.
gameplay?
>>722347695that thing you retards hate to talk about?
Yunaka-Etie support is funny.
>>722344450well a big problem with engage is that the story/world is so empty that there isn't anything FOR them to talk about in the way 3h characters can just loredump
>>722347535well i keep doing this chapter in the same way every time. maybe one day I'll change my strategy. i feel like some of the aggressive plays to maximize guard gauge were new i guess. anyways save: https://files.catbox.moe/iwa6nt
>>722347686The point is that no matter how hard they can try to larp as being "normal", its basically impossible for them to truly hide their instincts as killers because it informs basic things like their stance and evaluation of people. Its not a trauma dump support since we already had one for Yunaka and Zelkov elsewhere.
>>722347839Peak example of "written to be a funny support but is actually unfunny", one of the worst types of support
>>722347695why the hell would you care abut someone else's gameplay? just boot the fucking game up yourself you whiny bitch.
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>>722347789Buonanotte, meatball
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>>722347864>Vandalized castle name
>>722348008>NOOOO DON'T POST GAMEPLAY
>>722347598Nah its cringe.His Bernadetta support is funnier.
>>722347429>if i just call everything slop then it must be trueThis is why no one wants to discuss shit with people like you.
>>722348135I said "don't whine about people not posting their random playthroughs" and throwing a fit when people talk about supports (which are universal and still gameplay)
>>722331310>>722331991>screams vtuber>can't actually articulate what's wrong with the design
