>REEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU TURN ME INTO A DEMIGOD AND TREAT ME LIKE A DAUGHTERTotal weavenigger death.
Post your flea game scores.
Tormented Trobbio is the worst fight I've ever encountered in my life.
I wish you could buy shard bundles in bulk. Buying them one by one is a pain in the ass.
>>722490975Normal Trobbio gave me more trouble than his T. version. For one, normal Trobbio teaches you most of the moves you will face fighting T.Trobbio and secondly you actually have a lot more tools and upgrades in act 3 than in act 2, where you might end up fighting him without many options.
>>722491284Nah, normal Trobbio was a fun fight. The tormented version is pure dogshit.
>>722490270>he doesn't know
>>722490975I can't see purple, I don't know why but I literally have a lot of issues with that color, I had to diddled with my screen until I managed to make the game in something like a gray scale and managed to beat him.
>>722489997The charges officer?
>>722491284The glitter AOEs are pure cancer. I literally could not see them until they exploded.
I was checking for stuff I missed before fighting the Last Judge, and I found the Sinner's Road area. Was I not supposed to go there this early? The enemies were too tough (except the flyers, both kinds you can pogo to death) and I found nothing of note except the tacks I got from the quest.
When is TC going to fix the parasite dialog in act 3 ? I know the hermit isnt there anymore to give directions but they should have accounted for this and added at least a replacement to the town greeter's dialog.
>>722491601that area is fucked up and the rewards you get from it will arrive rather delayed, but there are rewardsGoing down that route you actually have an alternate possibility for arriving at Act 2, the 'normal path' being Last Judge
>>722489997Lace isn't any better. She's literally just mad because she was given life in an unconventional way. She's indistinguishable from a regular bug but she's still mad that her mother created her out of magic.
>>722491601nah, youre fine. its the alternate route to the citadel. id do it for the kino boss at the end then go in the citadel through last judge gate
>>722491816She'll probably miss being spoiled with the new step mom.
>>722491601Sinner's Road doesn't lead to the Citadel, I'm not sure what that anon is on about but you can do that area just fine in act 1.
>>722492017>Sinner's Road doesn't lead to the Citadel>he doesn't know
>>722492116Technically it connects to it in a very roundabout way but that is by no means something you're supposed to realize well into act 2.
Man, the hidden areas in this game are way more extreme than in HK.
>>722491424what?
>>722492524Don't worry about it.
I am 30 hours in and have still not Bilewater, the area I've heard the most about. I have found Putrefied Ducts though.
>>722489997I never got how the story expects me to feel sympathy for the weavers.Timeline A: the weavers usurp SIlk for pure power and personal gain, creating a religion around themselves, proceeds to play victim and whine. they then imprison FS for threatening their religionTimeline B: the weavers usurp Silk because they're mad they're adopted. managing to look absolutely psychotic in this entire ordeal.Reminder that , haunting aside, Silk did nothing wrong
>>722492524After beating Seth he eventually makes his way to the flea caravan, and his scores are 55, 95 and 68 respectively. You need to beat his scores for a memento (but it's not needed for 100%)
>>722493065Why would you assume the story is trying to make you feel sympathy when multiple characters all over the game talk about the Weavers being shitty?
>>722492202Sinner's Road has a direct path to the Citadel via an area that only exists as a way into the Citadel. You can't even access it from the Citadel side, you HAVE to go in via Sinner's Road.
>>722493065>I never got how the story expects me to feel sympathy for the weaversIt doesn't. Literally every character that's old enough to have been well-acquainted with the Weavers tells you how terrible they are.>Reminder that , haunting aside, Silk did nothing wrongIs the haunting even a deliberate, conscious act done by GMS or is it a side effect of her getting sealed?
>>722489997How are people struggling with Groal? Just spam Abyss Shriek and Shade Soul lol.
>>722492202The Sinner's Road route is lowkey better than the intended route because it gives you to immediate access to fast travel in the Citadel and it brings you closer to the shrine hub area
When the fuck do I attack on the Judge's second phase?
Is this it? All that platforming just to reach an empty area?
How long until mods where you can play as Hornet in HK and as the Knight in Silksong?
Finally finished the game yesterday. I had a rough start with it but after getting a few tools and abilities it was mostly smooth sailing up until lost lace. I really have no idea what the fuck is the deal with all the difficulty discourse.
>>722493504When she throws the bell she's wide open to attack (just remember to jump when she pulls it back).On the ground slam attack you can pogo (you'll have to jump anyway), same with the attack where she drags the bell across the ground.
>>722492116The vast majority of people aren't going to access the citadel via Sinner's Road, it's a very much out-of-the-way path. The Moorwing boss fight leads into Bellhart (which has its own cinematic and quest gimmick and gives the first needle upgrade) which leads to the Blasted Steps which leads to the Last Judge and it's clearly intended to be the main way of accessing the citadel. The Sinner's Road way is more like an obscure secret backdoor.
>>722493596>When she throws the bell she's wide open to attack (just remember to jump when she pulls it back).Thought of that, but my first instinct is to run away instead of inside. I'll have to get used to it.
>>722493504You're allowed to hit the boss whenever you want.
>>722493629Okay but that's not what the discussion was about.
>>722493560Don't think knight can beat Silksong. Unless I'm remembering wrong, since I haven't played HK is so long, but some of the paltforming seems to not be doable with knight movement without double jump being base.
>>722491426>>722491543Apparently he filters colorblind anons. Kind of ironic considering he is a faggot.
>>722493504I found it helpful, paradoxically, to stay up against an edge of the arena. There are certain patterns she won't do in the edge without moving back (namely the chain fling) and there's a predictable spacing between the swing arcs and the fire arcs that it spawns,, so you have a reliable spacing to hit her. Just watch out for jumps that can land on you and be prepared to dash under.
>>722493560The Knight would be a bad fit for Silksong, his spells trivialize 90% of Silksong's threats but his ground and air mobility is shit compared to Hornet so he'd be helpless in platforming.
>>722493530Exploration is its own reward anon. I bet you were filtered by SOTE too.
>>722491816The Devs could have at least given her some type of hair attack like GMS does with hers. Lace's attack kind of feel boring and dull in a way.
>>722491426>I can't see purpleThis anon's an ork
>>722493530The Surface is supposed to be a reward in itself, but to be frank it doesn't offer an impressive visual vista, so it's a bit of a letdown.
>>722490975Trobbio is a faggot.>>722493771>>722491426It has nothing to do with being colorblind or anything like that. The issue is that his explosions are all purple on purple background.
>>722493887extrinsic rewards is incredibly obvious reason to explore, don't give me any of that friends along the way shitthat's the aspect that silksong is really bad btw, there are nowhere near enough rewards, much less fun ones shoutout to anti-maggot charm in the area you're most likely to get to after bilewater, and crawnest that you'll get after buying almost everything
>>722493530that area is for a quest, if you didnt get the quest before coming there you'll have to come back
>>722493530Not exactly. I would definitely recommend finding the shortcut back down as there are two reasons to be up there, and one of them you have to come back for later. The other one is just playing the needolin at a specific spot up there for a memento
>>722493530I did it only to finish the mushroom quest since I ended up finding it through my exploration. Kinda sucks that its locked behind the platforming instead of being a puzzle like all the others were.
>>722490975>het let's make Grimm again but this time make him lame and gayBravo, Team Cherry.
>>722493318I did, more or less
>>722493530what's the lore for this area existing at all? bugs from the surface being summoned into Pharloom by weavers and dying while trying to reach the citadel?
>>722494357>red>theater associations>goes invulnerable and spams projectilesis that all it takes to be grimm?
>>722494417It's just a glimpse into what the world outside of kingdoms like Hallownest and Pharloom is.
>arrive at The MistWhat the fuck do I do here? Just feels like I'm walking around in circles.
>>722494449Grimm bows like a fucking professional before he starts raping you. Trobbio is just a faggot.
>>722494357I actually liked Trobbio, until I realized the red bananas are his eyes and not a moustache.
>>722494504Use your head
>>722494504Play the needolin near the fireflies. Not the screaming banshees, the literal decorative bugs.Yes it's bullshit.
>>722494504Is there nothing that stands out to you while exploring the are?
>>722494574What the fuck, why would I ever do that?
>>722494604If you have triple digit IQ it's pretty easy to figure out.
>>722494472we already know from the previous game that most bugs outside the reach of a higher being simply revert to a primal state so it's just an endless wasteland of nothing
>>722493572as videogames became more popular the hobby has been filled with normies and retards with 0 skill.
>>722494643It's the first time we see live bugs outside tho.
>>722494642What's the clue?
>>722494716In the room between Bilewater and the Mist the bugs will lead you towards the door. I think it's fucking retarded because you see them plenty of times in the game and not once do they do anything, regardless of how you interact with them.
>>722494776So they only behave like this in the Mist?What a retarded idea.
>>722493180I don't know then. I went back to try to find it now and I still can't find it. It must be some super-hidden path.
>>722494716Lace was playing for them in Deep Docks.
>Have to start another savefile because I didnt find the parasite until after I had beaten part 3bullshitAlso the way the parasite grabs granny silk's round ass does things to me
>>722495032The one that leads directly there is indeed super-hidden, the "obvious" way of doing the Last Judge Skip is to take the route out of Sinner's Road that goes along the very bottom of Bilewater toward the Stag Station and then takes you to that same area but from the opposite side. Even then that isn't the "very roundabout way" you're likely describing (which, I presume, is defeat groal > ducts > exterior songclave > memoriam > choral chambers?)
>>722495032It is. If you're on your first run, don't sweat it and go the other way.
>>722495408just revert your save back to act 2
>>722495408You can just rollback your main save file, there's a rollback arrow icon in the save menu. You can select from like 20 auto-saves (usually given for acquiring abilities or beating story bosses).It is permanent though, so back up your save data beforehand.
>>722495347Never saw her there.
>>722490270I hate those stupid minigames
Anyone have that webm of Trobbio 2 peaking out of his trapdoor after you defeat him and walk away?How is he so powerful, you beat him twice and he's no worse for wear lmao
>>722495560Niggerfaggot you literally can't progress the game unless you do so.
>>722495408>the gamedev's barely disguised fetishWhy is it okay when TC does it?
>>722495461I'm nearly done with the game.
>>722495560Well the other clue is that everything reacts to Needolin so always try to play it near living things. Personally, i didn't figure it out until like 20 hours after i found the area, i thought it would've needed something from a later area in order to navigate the Mist.
>>722495674I don't think Hornet ever actually kills anyone unless she has to or it's a mindless husk/animal. Both Trobbie fights are clearly just stage plays and hornet just smacks him around a bunch.
>>722495820Okay. I literally didn't see them there tho, so you are incorrect.>>722495886>everything reacts to NeedolinDoes it? I never use it because it uses silk and I'd rather not waste it.
>>722490975TROOOOOBBIOOOOOOO
>>722495560she hums the final boss theme btw
>>722495820deep docks lace is skippable. You can buy the key and take wormways directly to shellwood.
>>722495820That's false, you can find Lace in several spots in the early game (though she only fights in the Deep Docks).
>>722495896>Both Trobbie fights are clearly just stage playsTrobbio is trying to kill you.
>>722496007She looks so dumb hereStupid ass fucking tiny little noodle arms
What am I supposed to do with this?
>>722496095Huh, what the fuck I forgot about that. Maybe he really is that strong, or hornet misjudged him, because how he acts after is way too silly for him to be a "I'll kill in the name of art" type of guy.
>>722495983>>722496085>>722496090My bad anons, thanks for the correction
Is there a use for the the charm that amplifies the effect of the Needolin?
>>722496196wtf is this area, I haven't been here, is this above the chef boss?
>>722496218No, Trobbio is not like the friendly spars against Garmond and Shakra, he's clearly out for bloodHe tells you outright that it's your great honor to die on his stage in the name of restoring pharloom's greatness or some shit, and his second fight is him trying to put you out of your misery because everything is going to shit anyway
>>722494604You're essentially meant to figure it out by accident. The Mist is an optional area intended for people who are being thorough explorers, since it's off the path the game is deliberately guiding you down. The kind of people who find The Mist are the kind of people who are going over the game with a fine-tooth comb, which includes "playing the needolin for everything to see what sorts of dialogue you get".If you're not the sort of person who's doing that, you aren't supposed to find The Mist, or if you are, you're supposed to think "I must need some other upgrade so I can come back here later" and get back on the intended track of progressing through Shellwood to the Blasted Steps and then the Last Judge.
>>722496357Yeah, you need silk soar for it.
>>722496351It works on the beastling and elegy songs as well. No practical use but it feels, looks and sounds so beautiful to equip it. I'm doing another playthrough to sequence break as much as possible and this thing always gets a slot in the wanderer's crest
>>722496507>The kind of people who find The Mist are the kind of people who are going over the game with a fine-tooth comb, which includes "playing the needolin for everything to see what sorts of dialogue you get".I found it because I was stuck at a boss (Last Judge), so I went looking for upgrades.
>Grimm bows at the start of the fight>if you're an impatient retard (like many streamers are) and hit him during the bow, he will scream and do a pufferfish attack right away>Trobbio has a somewhat long intro where he slowly appears on the stage>if you're an impatient retard and hit him during his epic pose you just eat an explosion right awayTrobbio has no chill
>>722496687>T. Dev who really really needs for people to see the cool animation he did for the 400th time.The fire broom boss in POE2 is a mistake and these kinds of animations are too except the first time you see them.
>>722496661Which is reasonable. My point is, the game isn't trying to guide you through The Mist. Getting through it is meant to be a reward for people who are experimenting and being observant about their environment. You aren't "supposed to know". It's a difficult puzzle based on observing small details and drawing conclusions from limited data. If the solution isn't something you stumble upon and are able to draw out, you're supposed to go>guess I need to come back laterand go somewhere else.Case in point, you went there looking for upgrades to help you with Last Judge; if you had figured it out, you'd have just skipped Last Judge. That would not have been the intended outcome.
>>722496874>"supposed to know"I never said you were "supposed to know". Don't know why you're putting these words in my mouth.I asked what the clue was. And it was posted.
>first sinner>Eva>they're two different NPCsThis religion allegory is a little wack
>>722496420Based retarded faggot, best boss
You know devs love making games when they include stuff like this.
Do you think he will be back in a future patch?I wonder if he will be easier/harder with Hornet's moveset. I used sharp shadow for him and it's not a thing anymore.
>>722495461>>722493180Wait, you guys aren't talking about the path through the Exhaust Organ, right? Cause that is NOT Sinner's Road.
>>722496874This is bullshit. If there was some indication at all in any point of the game that would be true but there's absolutely no way for you to figure it out. This is just bad design. Especially if you accidently went all the way into the mists without realizing that the blasted steps even exist.
>>722497258I know it'd be kind of cheap to bring back an old boss but god damnit do I want another fight with him. If anything he'd be the one boss that's reasonable to bring back.
>>722497258>sharp shadowHornet's version also has iframes but it requires silk.
>>722497484>needolin exists and interacts with supernatural shit>you see moths guiding you as you enter the mistIt took me way too long to figure it out but just try your tools, it's unironically way too obvious.>bad designit's neither a main path nor do you miss out on anything for not doing it, retard.
>>722495674>how is he so powerfulSeems reasonable to assume say he's a former Grimm Troupe member or has had some dealings with them or, if not, is at least related or bound to the Nightmare's Heart pale being in some way such that he comes across similar to the Troupe members.
>>722497305You can enter the mist from the sinner's road side, too. You don't need to detour through bilewater
>>722489997Bug world is actually extra large, and the humans are tiny unnoticeable creatures, like bugs to them.
>>722497630It's a main path and the parry is one of the best tools in the game. The needolin is so pointless you forget about it unless something reminds you. The dream nail has more applications and it such a downgrade.
>>722497747But the Exhaust Organ is NOT Sinner' Road you fucking faggots. I can't believe you niggers made me waste like half an hour trying to look for a path in Sinner's Road. At least I found that secret area above the kitchen.
What was she doing up there
>>722493065She destroyed every nearby tribe, also I think you are really seeing too little possibilities.Anyway I think you are doing what the story intend you to, making your own opinions and ideas.
>>722495896>I don't think Hornet ever actually kills anyone unless she has to or it's a mindless husk/animalGreen Prince was a pretty dubious kill. >he wanted to die, he was sadHe wanted to be left alone to grieve and she inceptioned him, killed him, then cut out his heart in a dark tunnel.
>>722497890probably needs that big booster seat to get up to those Fourth Chorus robots to work on 'em
So this is how you're meant to find out that they are sisters.
Act 3 is pretty neat
Sword Saint Lace is one of my favorite boss fights in the last decade of gaming. I'm getting my ass handed to me and I love it. The mixup game is unmatched.What a fight. Who the fuck ever bitched about this shit.
>>722497935Honestly yeah, I have no fucking idea why hornet kills him, it makes no fucking sense. Every other heart boss is dead already, doesn't care about dying to save pharloom or whatever the fuck the reason for killing the flower lady is. Green prince is just mourning his fag lover but you go and kill him, it feels like it was supposed to be a part of a bigger thing where you could kill multiple heart bosses of your choice but the way it is now it just feels needlessly cruel.
>Helluva Boss came out in 2019>Grimm Troupe was introduced in 2017Really makes you think.
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>>722498347
>do race minigame expecting a memento>get the last mask shard instead
>>722498335Hornet hates faggots, it's that simple.
>>722498330People bitched because it's a boring fucking rehash of a boss you already fought twice. Throwing void vomit around is not interesting and a barely different rehash fight is a horrid way to end the game.>dive into void>oh boy I wonder what sort of horror I will have to face>it's that one boring bitch you already fought twicelimp ass ending.
>>722498380
Just your daily reminder that Hornet is half Weaver and this is apparently what Weavers look like under their masks.
What game will be the new clown to replace Silksong?Come on, we need a new clown.
i finished HK yesterday, it was alright, didn't enjoy a bit of the backtracking that much but it wasn't that bad after achieving dream gate. I forgot to go through the grimm dlc but I'll finish that later.I liked the white palace platforming, I've heard theres something called path of pain, sounds fun.
>>722498393Anon...
>>722498495
Was that weird skull wall in that one spiky room in the Marrow ever relevant for anything?
Get off the bench, dog. You are a dog, the bench is for soulslike protagonists only
>>722498508but that's a rag
>>722498508That's obviously a fake mask she made or had made for her, I think the game even says as much
>>722498508>under her mask>has a mask onHuh?
>>722498393Do the race again after giving hearts to the snail shamans.6 laps.
>>722498612>>722498614>>722498624Nah she's just hairy.
>>722498580>Hollow Knight 3: Flea's Big Adventure
>>722494059ARE you colorblind, anon? Do a test!
>>722493986Though I do like it, I also feel it could do with being more desolate and open. It's the surface but it doesn't really feel like the surface, just another part of the world.
>>722498580>Safest place in Pharloom is in between the Putrefied Ducts and Bilewater
That Flint Boost thingie is fucking rape tier. Stacked with poison and hunter this thing is the ultimate cheese
>>722492310Yeah this part was a little frustrating but it's also entirely optional and only needed for one specific ending, like White Palace. I really appreciated having some guidance for finding Mr Mushroom rather than just wandering around the map hoping to find all of the hidden spots
Just beated the game in 35 hoursIs Act 3 worth it? I only care about fighting fun bosses at this point
>>722492310Anon, this is supposed to be like, the hardest secret area demonstrated by it being the only platforming challenge you get a memento for.
>>722498472Mad cuz bad. It's nowhere NEAR a rehash. If Lace 2 is Owl, Lost Lace is Inner Owl (Father). It takes the moveset you've already learned and instead of just adding to it, it remixes it. Moves that progressed only one way in the first fight now have 3 different end variations which require separate counters; you have to play through each move, rather than only playing through the startup on the full pattern.The area denial shit in the later phases is just icing on the cake. It stands as a duel all by itself.
>>722498654Thibk we only person we see without a mask on is the mask maker but most people will not go around hitting random npcs
>>722492310The climb up to the surface village was okay in terms of difficulty. It's no PoP, but it's a welcome optional platforming challenge in a game that could've used more of those. Mount Fay is still the best platforming gauntlet in the game by far because of its timing mechanic.
>>722498796>is the last 1/3rd of the game that's mainly fighting bosses worth it if I like fighting bossesgee I wonderThere is quite a lot to explore and do too
IS THERE A WORSE ENEMY THAN WISP THICKET FIRE SHAMAH WHO ALSO HAS A FIRE LANTERN NEXT TO HIM?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP FPV DRONING ME
>>722498884The void snails don't have masks either.
>>722494643it's just reinforcement / confirmation of the thingyou and me and auntie jemmie all know you like to look at troon cock on most weekdays but you keep going back to those websites
>>722498861I'm not mad cuz bad anon, I beat her I don't care about her difficulty. She is just a terrible point to end the game on.
It's tempting to say this thing is a Pale Being. What do you reckon? If not then what else could it be?The feathers that it leaves behind glow the way Pale Beings do. The Weavers, descendants of a god themselves, with super advanced technology, went out their way to contact it with a giant tuning fork. Its mind cannot be read at all with the Needolin. It was having a full blown conversation with Mr Mushroom. It seems utterly unbothered by the events of the story.
>>722498924>Is there a worse enemyThe fucking poison sniper mosquitos in Putrefied Ducts.
>>722498752poison reduces flintslate base damage, I believe. You can't stack poison damage, only prolong it, so if you're trying to tank then you're better off with no poison on your blade
>>722499013They're hard countered by being below them
>>722498884I kept hitting this motherfucker and his mask never fell off, do I need to do the delivery?Also cool that his eyes look similar to the mask maker from hollow knight.
>>722499046>They're hard countered by being below them>Which is why you exclusively encounter them in vertical shafts and over maggot water
>>722498759Honestly the hints are pretty clear, I think I had difficulty with only one.
>>722499059Charge attack knocks it off right away
Tfw just found out you can play the needolin for bosses and they all sing, even bosses encountered before you get the needolin.
>>722498861Nta, but I too found her not a really good and climatic final boss fight and honestly a pretty bad and underwhelming character overall.
>>722499089There's always a platform below them
>>722499151Thanks anon.
>>722499180No there isn't?
>>722499059>he doesn’t charge his attacks lol
>>722499013>>722499046Clawline melts them. The answer is always clawline.
>>722499092actually I'm retarded and there were hints for him in HK. Forgot about the tablets. They were definitely more vague though. Took me like half an hour to find all of the spots in SS and I remember having some trouble with it in HK
Just realized this game will win Goty because the backlash from stealing this title to CO will generate lots of traffic/attention/buzz.
>>722499238>attack once for 3x damage or attack 4 times in the same time it took you to charge
Grand Gate cutscene < Exhaust Pipe cutscene
>>722499283>stealing this title to COWhat does this mean?
>>722499167>we made this underwhelming character>gave her a nothing personality>gave her the best boss theme in the game>made you fight her 3 times with none of them being that interestingLace is a fucking horrible addition to this game, she is genuinely the one thing I don't like about this game especially because she hogs that great theme I've been listening to for years before the game came out.
>>722498759>>722498824>>722498893I didn't mean the difficulty of the platforming, that was easy. I meant how hidden it is. Hidden areas are WAY more hidden in Silksong than in HK.
>>722499351It's ESL for "stealing the award from CO (Clair Obscur)"
>>722498824Man, if only they had some hint like, I dunno, a bright light shining through the ceiling or something?
>>722498924The hopping niggers in Bilewater. Most frustrating enemy in the entire series
>>722499412Who the hell abbreviates it to CO, everyone calls it E33
What secret platforming challenge are you even talking aboutI wanna do platforming!
>>722499358I wouldn't go that far, I liked her first two boss fights, and even the third can be entertaining when it limits the bs, but yes, I liked her far less then I should given the entirety of the third act was to save her. Also I feel that her motivations are pretty weak.
>>722499008Yeah it probably is of pale origin. Or just a normal bird lmao
Unironically I have never, not once, used a Nail Art or charged attack in either Hollow Knight or Silksong at any point.The idea of remaining motionless during a fight and just waiting for an attack to charge up isn't workable for me. I've no doubt they hit hard and that players who can use them and time them right can clean up but I will never use them.
>>722498861>hollow knight>fight the true ending final boss>huh? where is she?>the fucking sun unfurls its wings>full screen title card>music kicks in>insane fight>final phase climbkino of the highest order>silksong>fight the super secret true ending final boss>its the tutorial duelist boss for a THIRD time>only additions to her moveset are the three void attacks copy pasted onto every act 3 enemy in the game>"y-you just don't like this because you're BAD at the GAME!"
>>722498884>onlyplenty of bugs don't have masks, most notably generic pilgrims (moss versions literally spit at you), fleas, fliesmasks are just a design gimmick so that every other bug wouldn't have boring blobby headshape and beady eyes, masks create contrast and allow arbitrary shapes for heads and eyes
>>722494417As I understand it, the surface village was inhabited by loads of bugs before Pharloom existed, but the Weavers just enthralled most of them and made them descend to build the Citadel, organizing them into the choir.
>>722499491>>722499491Act 3 above the cradle
>>722499412Never heard of that game. Thanks for the translation.
>>722499351Don’t reply to shitposters what they post makes zero sense
>>722499467Legitimately the only enemy in the entire game that I will just run past whenever I encounter it, even if I'm not on a boss runbackEven if you do decide to fight one of these, it takes like 3 fucking minutes cause he keeps taking ages to pop back up again
>>722499442Nigger mr mushroom's quest literally says "go above the cradle lmao"
>>722499508>remaining motionless...but you can run around and jump while charging it?
>>722499508In HH they're only really good for like 3 bosses in the entire game.In SS it's more varied depending on the crest but no silk regen kills it imo.In both cases I wish it was a separate button from the regular attack.
>>722498637HUH? I've done hearts before the races, he refuses to race me any moreseems it needs some time to pass cause just benching and restarting the game doesn't help
>>722499508I use sharpdart cause it looks great
>>722499493Yeah her motivation is pretty lackluster because it's such a bad trope. "Child that shits and cries about her parent not caring about her when the parent actually does". Grandmommy silk held back the entire void so lace can hold on a bit longer and instantly gave her life to save her at the end.All that cool atmoshpere and the chilling screams of GMS throughout the entirety of act 3 just being for lace sake kind of takes away from it all.
Single bedroom home, with a bath.
>>722499508Charge attacks are good for bosses that don't have many openings.
>>722499508>>722499646charged attacks I mean
>>722499375I dunno, I think the entrance to the Hive and PoP were both pretty esoteric. Moreso the latter, because the wall you have to hit isn't visually cracked.
>>722499646>but no silk regen kills it imo.That was patched, it was a bug
>>722499508Depends on the crest to be honest. It's pretty meh on reaper but fucks shit up with architect. I don't know about the other crests.
>>722499358I don't know, I think her VA is amazing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpi8xY2pjjIMaybe you're just gay though not judging
>>722496196You absorb the lore.
>>722499784oh cool then
Yum delicious jelly
>>722499784What the fuuuck manThat was the only reason I never used it, would have been fun
>>7224997183500 rosaries per month rent in the Citadel
>>722499718>after the ending
>>722499805A good VA doesn't make up for a shittily written character and a meh as fuck final boss
Where my wisp lantern, memory crystal, plasmium overdose chads.>Tfw AFKed through every boss and took a nap.
>>722499013I will never get tired of watching them thrash and buzz as they get dragged up and eaten. Always hilarious
>>722499890who is that dude anyway and can I fight him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vick40gW0mE>best and hardest track of the entire OST of the game>is used for the tutorial boss which is an oversized trash mobWhat did TC mean by this?
>>722499890I thought that nigga was gonna get vored, I'm glad he was safe.
>>722498580I felt sad when I had to Garama!'d him out of the bench.
>>722499797I think they nerfed architect heavy in the same patch>>722499784 mentioned.
>>722499508>remaining motionless during a fightWay to out yourself as a retard. Your movement is completely unaffected while charging an attack in both games. Were you just so oblivious to the idea that you could hold down a button and move at the same time that you didn't consider it an option?
>>722500053>no cockfly
>>722500103
>>722500062The sound the barnacles make while eating them is the vilest shit I've ever heard, insane sound design.
>>722500062https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYDs1rwIG28
>>722500053I used the lantern to cook meat for the huntress.
>>722500178
>>722499890Was hoping I'd come back in Act 3 and have to fight a voided-up version of the monster. This game was just full of missed opportunities.
>>722500116Well now it sucks all around then I guess.
>>722499167The appreciation for rival duels in action games is clearly at an all-time low on /v/, and it makes me sad. I suck ass at this fight right now, and I've had more fun consistently losing it than I did actually winning half the boss fights in the game.I can't imagine not thinking this is the coolest fucking shit.
>>722500120Pretty crazy that there are zoomers that have never played a Mega Man game.Especially the Zero games, you charge your saber all the fucking time, while moving and dashing and wall jumping and shit.
Beat the Organ-Player boss in the Mist and it unlocked Act 2.I thought you had to beat the Last Judge to get to Act 2?
>>722500247Now draw lace fake pregnant with a bundle of silk
>>722500083It’s used on moorwing aswell
>>722499931This living situation seems somewhat hellish
>>722500336There are four different ways into Act 2
>>722500303It would help if Lace were actually a good rival.
>>722500336Congrats you lost your act 2 virginity doing anal instead of using the pussy.
>>722500336No, you can murder Lace's dear sister if you're too much of a shitter to handle the Judge.
>>722500398>fourWHAT
>>722496196ah, i guess this is explaining the reason the chef was exiled to sinner's road. those little bugs in the jar are the ones who grow up to be judges
>>722500303People don't like it because lace is a shit nothing "rival"I love rival characters but lace is just a wet fart to end on.
>>722500303Because Lace is a meh character at best. She's no Vergil or Genichiro.
>>722500303Lace's problem is that there are already multiple rival duels done better mechanically and thematically, including her own sister. She never outgrows her "early act 1 low level minion" archetype.
>>722500247>ruined by yuritranny shipfaggotry at the end
>>722500303>I can't imagine not thinking fighting a boss we have fought twice already except black this time is not the coolest shit everMy issue is that all the sword duel fights in this game feel exactly the same and the only one that tries anything interesting is Phantom.
>>722500398Oh really? That's kinda neat.>>722500430Which one is Lace again? I don't remember any of the characters names so far.
>>722500303It's the best boss and I was full emotional since I wanted to save her and thought her lost to the void, it's just that you are in brown hours and they have no empathy because Lace is a woman.
>>722500437NTA but last judge, phantom, think bilewater also has a way, can’t think of a 4th
>>722500387As if that's not a completely random, throwaway boss fight.
>>722498861>instead of just adding to it, it remixes itremixes how?>her three slash attack does double damage>her parry does double damage and easy to exploit>her ground charge now spawns tentacles>she uses 4 aoe circles instead of just one and her ground slam spawns tentacles>her only new moves are using void tentacles, calling void daggers and throws void bubbles around, all of which are piss easy to dodge and used by every single void enemy in the gameNKG rematch was a better fight against Grimm. Pure vessel was a better fight against TLK. The fight against Lost Lace is....exactly the same shit as Lace, right down to the same noobtraps. And the best crest to deal with her is still the wanderer because you can pogo off her head for days and she cant do shit about it
>>722500437>Blasted Steps>Exhaust Organ>somehow pogoing off an enemy in Wisp Thicket to reach Underworks maybe?I can't imagine a fourth way, there's no way you're going through Bilewater. Can you access Choral Chambers through the Slab after you break out of prison?
>>722494357this but reverse
>>722500574Bilewater leads to The Mist and Phantom. You can't progress through Bilewater any further without double jump.
>>722500485I'm talking about mechanically, not narratively. There isn't a single worthwhile boss in Silksong narratively except MAYBE Lost Garamond.
How the fuck are you ever meant to possibly even be in danger in the clock core after they HALVED all the damage you take? It wasn't terribly difficult to begin with. A pathetic facsimile of the white palace that didn't even pose anywhere close to the same challenge as it. And they for some reason halved the damage anyway? Fucking why? The clock core is visually cool and the music is awesome. But gameplay wise, what the fuck is even the point anymore?
>>722500439they just look like roach midsections to me
>>722500598>Can you access Choral Chambers through the Slab after you break out of prison?People have tried it, nope, you can't
>>722500598>somehow pogoing off an enemy in Wisp Thicket to reach Underworks maybe?I can imagine this being possible but I also kinda doubt it.>Can you access Choral Chambers through the Slab after you break out of prison?You can't. It's locked.
>>722494548>until I realized the red bananas are his eyes and not a moustache
>>722500398>last judge>backdoor though the mist&organ>flea caravan if you get literally every single one available before act2What's 4th? Maybe getting captured to the slab but you still can't access the citadel that way.
>>722500637>>722500574Theoretically, if you beat Groal in bilewater, cant you get to the putrified ducts and the Memorium that way? Or is that a one way route?
>>722500303Somebody forgot a key part of making a cool rival: interacting with them more than a negligible number of times throughout the damn game. Aussies spent so long expanding the world, but apparently not the story that takes place in it, you meet Lace 3 fucking times before ending 2.
>>722500437>>722500716>>722500551The three intended ways other people have mentioned here, and a very unlikely to be intended way of getting double jump early with Beast Crest jump shenanigans.
>>722500716>>flea caravan if you get literally every single one available before act2They won't move into the citadel or putrefied ducts before Last Judge is defeated
>>722500303I like rival duels, but not only the fight against the radiance was more climatic than this, especially the ascent with the siblings and the hollow knight helping you finish her, but Lace never really impressed me, her characterization in chapter 3 is pretty weak (maybe I would have been more impressed if I had played the needolin in the second fight and so got the foreshadowing), and the bossfight itself is a bit too much black on black, with few really impressive things.
>>722500751There's a breakable wall that can't be broken from that side that prevents you from getting into the citadel from the ducts
>>722500751You need double jump to get to Groal. There's no enemies to pogo off in the room with the shakira rings.
>>722500430Can you still fight judge if you start act 2 this way?>>722500398What are the other 2. Bilewater maybe and what?
>>722500716>>722500803The caravan doesn't move past the judge, AFAIK, as long as he isn't defeated, so only judge, phantom and wisp thicket, if you climb mount fay without clawline.
>>722500671maybe i'm wrong then. they don't really look like midsections to me but i also remembered the little bugs differently than what they actually look like
>virtually all fanart is either Chinese or sometimes Koreanare nu-Nips just too shit at these kinds of games?
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>>722500973nevermind, i see it now. the top one is definitely a midsection. then it's just a dumb little room
>>722500935>>722500808So that's 2 intented ways and one skip. What's the 4th one then?
>>722500582>remixes how?String mixups, anon.In L2, aerial uppercut always results in divekick. In LL, it can divekick or diagonal tendril.In L2, thrust chain always proceeds 3 times. In LL, it can proceed twice or cancel into aerial uppercut.In L2, ground parry always results in ground counter (I think). In LL, it can be cancelled into teleport air counter from behind.In L2, triple swing always proceeds to the animation end. In LL, it can cancel early into grounded void tendril.These mixups are what make the fight interesting. In L2, once Lace starts something, you know how it ends. The most complicated move is her teleporting judgment cut end thing, and that's only because it picks 3 locations after starting so you have to be aware of each one. The rest of the moves, if you play correctly in the first 5 frames of the animation coming out, you have the entire animation's duration to set up advantageously for the whiff punish, which gives you more DPS window. In LL, if you try to force the whiff punish early, she'll throw a mixup designed to hard-counter your whiff punish and make you eat shit.It's just really cool boss design. It's the moment where Owl Father winds up an overhead swing and if you side-dodge early, he cancels it into a roundhouse to punish you, but multiplied by the entire fucking moveset.
>>722501083Last JudgePhantomWisp Thicketno fourth way
>every time lace is spoken about or spoken to she is explicitly referred to as a child>trannies and normies keep lusting after herand yet eve from stellar blade is too much
>>722501083I don't know, I know only of those three.
>>722500985People usually draw characters they care about anon, lace is a shit. There is plenty hornet, shakra and sherma art because people actually like them.
where? Nuu is useless
>>722501116Don't you need double jump to get to Wisp Thicket?
>>722501116>Wisp ThicketPretty sure there's an invisible wall in case you get creative with cocoon pogos. It only disappears once you get the double jump.So there are only 2 intended ways into Act 2 without abusing glitches.
>>722501108I'm pretty sure she does all of these in the second fight except for the tendril which shoots at the same angle as the dive anyways you just have less time to hit her back.
>>722501083>>722501116You can in theory beat Groal and enter the Ducts, get the Apostate Key since it's on that side of the Ducts, then beat First Sinner for her ability, then use that ability to trigger a lever on the other side of a locked door. I've heard someone claim you can unlock the Slab door and enter the Citadel that way, but haven't seen evidence of someone actually doing it.>>722501234>>722501256You can get double jump without clawline if you use cocoon jumps.
>>722500113You can move him out of the bench by playing your needolin you dumb, violent nigger.
>>722501218Just check the wiki dude, you're probably missing the birds that fly away when they see you or some other retarded "enemy".
>>722501256If you get double-jump early, couldn't you theoretically go through Bilewater, defeat Groal, take the path beyond him into Putrefied Ducts, and then backtrack from Ducts to the outskirts of Songclave, then go upward into Memoriam and enter that way? I wouldn't want to TRY but it seems possible once you have double jump and wall cling, you don't actually have to have clawline for any of it.
>>722501234You can use the silk skill that dashes you to get to double jump after being captured and taken to the slab in act 1.
>>722501218Those are the terrain hazards in Sinner's Road/Bilewater and Blasted Sands respectfully. Toss bombs into them to get the entries. Note this doesn't actually eliminate the hazards.
>>722501297Nta but I don't think you can reach groal without double jump, and if you already got it you can't reach the slab without already passing through the citadel.
>>722501218Both environmental hazards, figure them out from the enemies their grouped with
>Finally, Act 2>Check playtime>30 hoursThis game is a lot harder than HK.
>>722501364You can get captured in Act 1??
>>722498558>I forgot to go through the grimm dlc but I'll finish that later.Literally the best fight in the game.>I liked the white palace platforming, I've heard theres something called path of pain, sounds fun.Yeah it's fun. PoP is pretty hard to find, you'll probably have to look it up.
>>722500985Man, Lace really is Cairngorm 2.0.
>>722501449>Nta but I don't think you can reach groal without double jumpHoly fuck LITERALLY in the post you replied to:>You can get double jump without clawline if you use cocoon jumps.READ
>>722501449>you can't reach the slab without already passing through the citadel.you can get captured in act 1 and sent directly to the slab. I even has its own prison escape sequence with naked Hornet
>>722501463lmao, it took me 20 hours to get to act 2 and I thought I was stalling too muchyou can do act 1+2 (so the base ending) in about 3-5 hours on a replay once you know where everything is
>>722497890Sucking a human cock (mine) with her rotating tongue
>>722501108>In L2, aerial uppercut always results in divekick. In LL, it can divekick or diagonal tendril.Nope, she does this in L2. And you dodge the same way: dash under her and get a shot in>In L2, thrust chain always proceeds 3 times. In LL, it can proceed twice or cancel into aerial uppercut.Dodge the same way: pogo off her head the first two times, then put some distance>In L2, ground parry always results in ground counter (I think). In LL, it can be cancelled into teleport air counter from behind.Teleport air counter happens in L2 as well. And is just as explotable because the reaction window is so long. Hit the counter and double jump. If it's gounded, pogo, if it's midair, clawline>In L2, triple swing always proceeds to the animation end. In LL, it can cancel early into grounded void tendril.Dodge the same way by bouncing off her headMixups dont mean shit when your responses to them remain the same. The problem is that you suck at the game which is why you're gushing about LL. If you remember the strat you used against L2, it'll be just as effective.
>>722501364From what I heard someone already climbed mount fay even without sharpdart (and without even the regular dash)
>>722501473There's a fly in Hunter's March, one in Greymoor and one in Bilewater.
>>722501590I don't think I'll be doing a replay, it's not been as fun as HK so far.
>>722501535The point he was making, if you finished reading his post, was that you have to get captured and taken to the Slab for that to work, because it's the only Act 1 way of accessing Mt. Fay, and that once said sequence has been completed, it can't be done again. His thinking, I believe, was that this means you can't have the Apostate Key BEFORE getting to The Slab, thus preventing you from doing the route described. He's just forgotten that there's a Bellway there which is accessible after the prison break sequence, you don't have to leave via the Citadel.
>>722501301...I've been dropping Garamas! To the poor bell beast every time too... I never knew that you could do that......Sorry poor little flea, I'm an honorary indian now.
>>722498580Crystal guardian was too powerfull
>>722501535>>722501538Yes, what I said is that even if you beat Groal it means you already escaped, so you can't use the apostate key to enter the citadel, as you can't reach the slab without passing through the citadel.I even said>If you already got it
>>722501442>>722501452>Both environmental hazardsfucking Team Cherry and their detailsthanks
>>722501623I'm to shit for that, I used the skill.
>>722500985Lanky, anthropomorphized Lace just doesn't do it for me. She's cuter when she's chibi and dressed in Victorian/Lolita-style dresses, almost like a Sanrio character.
>>722501734How do you leave the Slab in act 1 when you can't get into the Citadel? C'mon anon, you should know this. What method do you use?
>>722501806Ah, right, the bell beast (in fact I heard being kidnapped without freeing it is one of the few softlocks).
>>722494504My first time through I just ran randomly and got through. For some reason I thought you couldn't hit the ghosts so I was running quickly away.
another garbage fight
I don't like Lace's character design or personality, sorry guys. If the next game is about Lace I probably won't buy it.
>>722501919Probably my second most hated.
>>722501914That's pretty impressive because you need to pick the correct exit 5 times IIRC and it's randomized per each playthrough. And it resets back to the beginning when you pick a wrong one.
>>722501885How would you even do that, isn't the bell beast fight mandatory?
>>722501919This is literally the worst one for me, I can't imagine a worst boss without doing it on purpose, easy, tedious, long and boring.
>>722501919>Completely optional boss>Has the last silk heart if you don't know about him. I hate this design.
>>722501919I didn't even find this fight until like the end of act 3 when I was cleaning up so it was really easy.
>>722501919This boss is easily one of the worst in the game, it's just an annoying timewaster where you have to sit around for ages and wait for him to reappear as those spears move slooooowly across the field
>>722502032>grind for Wormways key>somehow get from Wormways to ShellwoodMaybe? I have no idea
>>722501919>>722502060>Hey guys, what if for this boss we made it BIG and gave it a BIG hit box but get this>It's in a SMALL room
>>722501975Sucks she didn't click with you, she's very popular judging by the truckload of fanart though.
>>722491601>>722495032There are actually two routes in, but the longer and more obvious one is near Styx.
>>722502032there is only two jumps you need to do by luring someone to bounce off of to skip the bell beast
>>722501975There isn't a single good character in Silksong so far.They're all so forgettable and bland.
>>722502060he should've had a spool piece, give the silk hearth to a weaver nest or some other boss imo
>>722502136>But wont that be really easy to beat since Hornet can just bounce on its head?>Oh yeah! So lets make it immune to damage from above!
>>722502032Never doubt the ability of speedrunners.You have to go through the wormways and cocoon jump, you reach shellwood.
>>722502032Like every sequence break issue wormways.
>>722502216Imagine being so bitter and joyless.
>>722502138She's only popular because unfortunately every cute indie game has a dedicated corral of ex tumblrites that get horny to even literal napkin doodles if you anthropomorphize them even vaguely.
hornets brother is real lucky he'll be impregnating this
>>722502067That's how I found it too. It's still a shit fight.
>>722502245>>722502231>>722502204oh ok, I wasn't considering unintended skips for a proper softlock
>>722494357Um, actually. He's this game's Dung Defender
>>722502274Hornet and Shakra getting into a POSHANKA! posing match is one of the best things you can do in the game, I really hope TC gives her more love
>>722502136>>722502230>Also let's give him a projectile that you CANNOT parry like the other bosses projectiles! Which he fires from his vulnerable front, covering it!
>>722502274Imagine thinking this is a good character.>b-b-but le epic singingThey're just doing it because the first game had a singing map-seller. Souless.
>>722502275I'm pretty sure those Chinese artists don't even know wtf is tumblr
Now why would he have money
>>722502385Dung Defender is a chad, Trobbio is a virgin.
>>722501975Aren't you that nigger who got his ass beat in the Colosseum of Fools?
>>722502386Minigame like this but poshankahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpsezVsd0No
>>722502494where is this?
>>722502494from killing a lot of people :)
>>722502526>Posting the edithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk61A94sZTg
>>722502563exclusive to the real gamer mode (steel soul)
>>722502563Nta, steel soul styx equivalent.
>>722502563Steel Soul only as the Silkeaters are useless there, he's next to the other guy who makes them but he's dead I think, assuming it's not just him wearing a different mask
>>722502409You HKfags are so retarded, the game is as goofy and cute as the first one, it has the same soul, the zones are equally nice and the world in 2 is less dark than 1 but it takes a darker look in act 3.You are the same retards that hate everything after Dark Souls 1.
>>722501919Genuine question; how do you beat this boss without the parry skill?
>>722500303Lace is a garbage character. Like the other anon said, she shows up literally twice before you fight her in act 2. All TC had to do to make her good was adding more interactions between her and hornet. >Die repeatedly in the High halls gauntlet>Lace is out of reach, with a short interaction mocking you>Go to Bilewater>Lace is disgusted, cleaning herself off the maggot water>Go to Exhaust Organ>Lace is there reflecting on something, and before Hornet can get a word, she fucks offShe has no fucking presence in the game whatsoever, and centering so much of Act 3 around her is retarded. It would've been infinitely more compelling if the final boss was corrupted Sherma, even if it didn't make sence, simply because he actually grows on the player.
>>722502702I've never played any Dark Souls game.
>>722502852You can still jump over him. However, I got hit by his spit attack a lot but I could still heal through it
>>722502852Hit him? His hitbox is annoying but he leaves himself open after the charge so you can wait for that if you're that afraid of going near him
>>722502852As someone who beat him before the exhaust organ>Get your ass kicked by contact damage>Try again>Repeat until you somehow winI didn't even have tacks, I heard they melt him.
>>722502902>Only male characters grow on meGay or brown? I'm not reddit so I don't like Sherma
>Hurry hurry!>Hunter in red...>Follow quickly!>Friend spider...
>>722502852I just camped his spawn point, then stayed on that wall with ascendant's grip, then came down to punish him after he was done barfing. Tacks help a lot too obviously. Not sure if there's a more optimal strat.
I haven't played the first game, is Silksong better or worse than it?
>>722503001>Lacefags have to resort to buzzwords to defend their garbage rivalI cared more about Shakra than fucking Lace.
>>722503054Worse so far. But I'm only 2/3rds though the game.I doubt the ending will save it for me.
>>722503054It's better in some aspects, worse in others. >Music>Backgrounds>Moment-to-moment bosses>FinaleHollow Knight>Gameplay>Difficulty>Playstyle options>Mechanics>PlatformingSilksong
>>722502852>>722502943>>722502963>>722502996You can just retreat to the wall when he runs across the arena, then wall jump high enough to dodge his body.
>>722503054Play the first one first, it's literally unplayable once you get used to the superior movement. Both are great games but HK mechanichs really show it's age.
>>722503054This game expects that you're very good at Hollow Knight, so definitely play that one first or you'll get your teeth kicked in and then cry about le bad design.
>>722503196Can you fight him without double jump or something, I didn't have a problem avoiding the charge, it was when he'd appear in the middle of the room where he'd hit me. Even without double jump you can probably pogo off him
>>722503054HK was a miss for me since some of the art was a bit amateurish, the boss fights and regular enemy fights were extremely undynamic, strats barely existing except "just don't get hit lmao" etc. I had no real drive to complete the game after two endings.Silksong on the other hand I'm enjoying very much even though it's hard. A lot of the things people complain about aren't as bad as they make it sound.
>>722503308Normal jump is enough when he runs.
>>722498579It’s an exit from Shellwood when you do the Witch Crest quest
>>722503054I hundred percented this game and stopped playing the first game at the Watcher Knights.
>>722503352HK had a far cooler final boss though.
>>722499509Radiance cannot be topped. TC didn't want to do the same true ending, I think. still, the Act 3's fake out ending wasn't bad either. beating the voided out savefile was kool
>>722503352>A lot of the things people complain about aren't as bad as they make it sound.Always disregard shitters' opinions
>>722503308>Can you fight him without double jumpYes. Wall jumping is the best way to consistently avoid his dash.> it was when he'd appear in the middle of the room where he'd hit meHe doesn't have a move where he appears in the middle of the room. He only pops out from the left or right side, preceded by particle effects and a rumbling sound effect.
>>722497903>She destroyed every nearby tribe,Good.The ants are assholes, the crabs got me after I hired that hooker, and the green prince is gayI dunno anything about Nyleth though. She made plants?
>Best boss is the only without contact damage What did Team Cherry mean by this?
>>722503534Radiance is pretty cool. Mommy Silk is cool as well but she does lack in difficulty.
>>722503543Act 3 starts out really cool and drops the ball super fast.
>>722500113>>722501301I just exited the screen and came back lel
>>722498270Isn't it in their bios that their silk beings created by GMS?Also, where is this? I'm thinking Eva's room but that must be wrong....Wait, was Eva a GMS or Weaver kid?
>>722503584First Sinner has contact damage thougheverbeit
>>722490975How are so many people getting filtered by him? He took me a couple tries but it's really only a matter of hitting his balls back at him and bouncing on his head when he tornadoes.
>>722503584>most liked bosses are the ones with clearly telegraphed attack patternsWhat did players mean by this?
>>722503597GMS being that easy was a weird decision imo. I'm not saying it should be ballbusting hard but it's easier than like half the other bosses.
>>722503584>without contact damage?????Do you know how many times I bumped into the First Sinner and took contact damage, when I was sprinting towards her and get a hit in before she teleports away again, or finishes her heal? I guess, some people play even that fight defensively and don't sprint in combat. But I felt like this fight was too fast-paced not to sprint. The tempo is just too high.
I've got a pretty solitary complaint about this game, and the previous game to a degree which is one of my absolute least favourite cliches in games like this is when they introduce this cosmic element like the void that clearly ties into all this super interesting ancient history and then elaborate on absolutely none of it. The Abyss is literally nothing, it's a small dark cave but narratively it should be the most interesting part of the game, but it isn't.
>>722503584I think Lace 2 was the most fun, overall.Kamelita's jump needs a telegraphs because it's just instant contact damage otherwise.
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>>722503734However, I was glad she was easy because of cursed ending
She just started playing SS so I dug up her old HK videos. Didn't know a biological woman could be so good at vidya.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9DH3GixJZw
>>722503734because she's the only boss that has no mandatory contact damage artificial difficulty, that's a fact
>Google Silksong>???>Profit
I HATE THE THE UNRAVELLED I HATE THE UNRAVALLED AI HATE THE INRAVALLED I AHATE THE UNRAVVLLED
>>722503584She has contact damage it’s just one mask tho
>>722503761There's no real consistent lore and TC just does a lot of things because they look and sound cool.
>>722503701The ball movement is extremely random and the explosion range is deceptively longer than the telegraph. Also there are explosions and fireworks fucking everywhere, doing this boss is a headache because of the distracting visual assaults
>>722503567>He doesn't have a move where he appears in the middle of the roomYes he does, although maybe it's just a phase transistion and not a regular move, I wasn't paying too much attention to when he did it, it doesn't help he seems to appear slightly to the side of where the particles would imply
>>722503865There is just enough ancient lore that it intrigues me, it's very cock teasing.
>>722503895Literally nothing but a skill issue, try using your eyes you whiny fag
Inb4 the next game will be city management game with you as a newborn higher being
>>722503761The abyss is a big corridor. I wish they wouldn't have gone the quantity over quality design choice. Many zones should have been scrapped to have other areas better designed. And the same goes for many bosses that just spam 1 attack.
>>722503915>>722503849>The Unravelled>Is in fact, ravelledAlso this game proves something that I have always known and that I think everybody has always suspected, that music is literally everything in a game. Half of these bosses would be irredeemable if they had shit music.
>>722503761Blame Fart Souls, they started that shit.
>>722502902Oh, the writing of Lace sucks ass. It’s just a fucking cool fight. I mean it’s not like any of the bosses are well-written, so it’s hardly a mark against Lace in particular. I do wish she was a better developed rival.>more interactionsNot just that. You need to HATE her more. Your best idea is having her laugh at you when you fail High Halls. The game needs more of that. It needs more of Lace being a shit who you want to put a hurting on, but you can’t.>Get to the bench in Sinner’s Road, Lace is the one who shows up and breaks it>1% chance to show up laughing by your cocoon whenever you die and take a swing at you, then leaving after one hit>wandering NPC can turn up who sells a mask shard that always costs 200 rosaries more than you have on you. If you break a necklace on the same map screen, Lace shows up and silks him into a hostile mob.Shit like that. Lace should be an omnipresent force of “oh FUUUUCK this bitch”
>>722503701It's a fucking visual diarrhea and it's very hard to see the shitty glitter explosions.
>>722504027I do blame Shart Souls, at least this game doesn't require me to read the wiki to understand the lore.
>>722503678It's in the Organ.
>>722504049It's really not that hard unless you have cataracts or something
>>722502652If anything the game implies this creature is responsible for killing Styx.>you can find his body laying dead in the room>everything it says is just repeating Hornet's words, but jumbled>if you pick "no" when prompted with giving it a silkeater, it will say "someone save me"Poor guy.As for what it may be, it's most likely a Nosk-type of monster.
>>722504027>>722504093>zoomers are so fucking stupid they need a fan wiki and some faggot like TrannyTroonya to explain basic minimalist storytelling to them
>>722503761>there was an ancient race that worshipped the abyss/void>there are big fossils (e.g. the one that gives you shade cloak) and arcane eggs etc from that race>snail shamans are somehow linked to the void and there are snail shells everywhere down therethere you go bud
>>722496196if bug eat bug are they cannibal?
Phantom emerging out of a pillar of fumes as the organ begins to thunder roar was prime. Exhaust Organ best location in the game.
>>722503915Where do I find this absolute unit?
>>722504027Dark Souls stole that style of story telling from Lovecraft>Come up with vast cosmic pantheon of deities and eons of intergalactic and interdimensional lore>Filter feed it through short stories about some guy living in an apartment alone when one day he has a DREAM and sees TENTACLES AAAAGH I'M GOING MAD, HELP ME NIGGERMAN NOT TENTACLES
>>722504027Dark Souls didn't invent environmental storytelling lmao
>>722504213>There you go bud, all these unanswered questions
>>722504108>>722503946>Nuh uh! It's not that bad! Cant you see the five different purple explosions against the purple background while focusing on the boss moving and lobbing bombs everywhere?!Reddit isnt sending their best
>>722504262At least Lovecraft did it in an entertaining way, unlike WORSTGAMESEVERMADE Souls.>>722504325>Nintenslop
>>722503582She was the ancient ruler of shellwood, from what Hornet says her living made it safer, sister splinter usurped it from her.Also I don't really get what you mean about the crabs.
>>722504262Lovecraft understood that shit ain't scary if you understand it too well. Still, At the Mountains of Madness with its explanation of the Shoggoths and their relationship to life on Earth leaves you feel sullied and unusual.
>>722504256There’s a locked area in Whiteward, do you remember it? He’s there.
>>722504256He's in Whiteward but the key is pretty bullshit to find
too hard
>>722504047>You need to HATE her moreWhy tf would they make the player hate her when the whole act 3 is about saving her? Good thing retards like you don't write stories
>>722504351>seething because I don't suck at the game like you doMaybe you should try not being a retarded old man?>L-LE REDDITKek, just get better faggot.
>>722504386It's a joke. You can get crabs from sexual intercourse with loose women.
>>722503584But the cogwork dancers have contact damage.
>>722504394I found him today. Can't say I care for the idea of a bossfight in a tiny pit.
Hey ya'll :) I just finished my steel soul 100% run, wanted to drop a few tips. First, the game isn't hard, it's just tedious. Second, if you happen to get stuck on a particularly tedious boss (not hard, just tedious), then just put the game down. Walk away. Take a break. Come back the next day. For such a tedious game, long braeks are really essential.
>>722504108There's a thing called retrospect and that is what truly decides if a boss was shit or not. I thought Last Judge was a shit fight, until I did it and then I decided it was actually a challenging but fair fight with lots of options and the run back wasn't as bad as people were making out. Trobbio 1 and 2 had a bench next door and were still fucking awful RNG anti fun that just randomly go "lol time to tornado at the same time as attack 2 and now you're dead"
>>722504021Most of the music in this game is completely forgettable tho.
Why is Void so fucking hostile? I thought it was supposed to be dead calm, like oblivion.
This game is bad. It has bad bosses. Boss bad because boss hard. This does not make me bad. The boss is bad. I am not bad, but the boss is bad. The boss is very bad, making me look bad, but I am in fact not bad. It is the boss who is bad.
>>722504549I mean I disagree completely but I'm not about to start spamming Youtube links.
>>722504447Act 3 is about saving Pharloom from Void. And even if it wasn’t,>cunt bitch fucker character unexpectedly saves you in a moment of crisis>you learn more about her and get context for why she was a cunt bitch fucker, realize she actually was unworthy of your hatred and go on a quest to redeem yourself by saving herThat’s PEAK writing. “This is my Albion” is the very best kind of plot twist.
>>722504458Ah, my ESL brain didn't get the innuendo.
>>722504536I mean I didn't think they were incredible fights or anything but I also didn't ever think they were particularly hard or bullshit.
>>722503001Are you? Sherma is an example of a good character that actually grows on you, even if he is not particularly complex (nobody in HK and SS are outside of Hornet and the Pale King, maybe GMS). Lace feels like a character who could be very good, but feels wasted because as interesting as she might sound based on premise and backstory, her presence is too small AND neither Hornet nor the player has a reason to be emotionally invested in saving her.
>>722503915Anon that’s legitimately a skill issue, it doesn’t move when it pops up like that and you can get a few hits in
>>722504654From what I understand it is literally RNG. Everybody that didn't hate those fights got pretty lucky or everybody that hated them got pretty unlucky. I got really unlucky with his tornado attacks coinciding with his screen filling explosions that prevent you from jumping so I hated it.
>>722504454>You're seething! You suck! You're old!So you admit you're from reddit and underage. How fucking embarrassing.>just get betterI beat him a long time ago you silly kid, I know that reaper and architect can shred him with zero effort
>>722503789Still too easy, even with the Witch crest. It's a travesty that GMS only has 2 phases while the infinitely less-interesting LL has 3. The final boss shouldn't be hampered by an optional ending, and speedrunners/achievement hunters will figure out how to beat her consistently with only 2-3 hits taken.
>>722504741>anyone who doesn't suck balls like me just got l-lucky!LOLShitter cope
>>722504394>>722504418How do I find the key?
>>722504672I'm invested in saving Lace because she's a cute and sexy brat with an even cuter, sexier and brattier voice.
>>722504776>if you're not a 40 year old retard with bad eyes you're underage and from R-REDDITShitter cope.>I beat him a long time agoSo stop crying, you worthless old fucking piece of shit. Hurry up and die, your family hates you.
>>722504339Knowing what questions there are is an answer all on itself
>>722504695Yes which is what I'm trying to do, I know there's a million other things I could have done to avoid it but look where he rises from in relation to the silk particles, you'd expect it to be the middle or at least I would so it throws me off
>>722503994It was me who jokingly suggested that. It would be on brand for TC to make their fans suffer by giving them a completely new genre to learn.
>>722504815You forgot to call him a tranny, schizo.
This was a really fun fight. Wish the game had more unique bosses like this or ones that put more of an emphasis on platforming at least.
>>722504893Assmad zoomoid lmao.
>>722504973Gimmick bosses like this suck cock and balls. Nyleth was boring shit too.
>>722504461pls refer to >>722503715
>>722504875It's in the ceiling above the furnace area, you need double jump I think
>A homosexual in Verdania? >Raze his kingdom. Bind his soul to a machine.>His torment shall be eternal. What did Grandmama Silk mean by this?
>>722504973I do wish the game had more platforming. One of my favourite parts of HK was the White Palace/PoP.
>>722504973Yeah. The flower one were you play "the floor is lava" was also quite fun
>>722504973When I first saw how big the Bell Eater was, I envisioned a fight with Primordial Bell Eater where it's so big you have to just platform from one part of the body to another like a classic God of War boss
>>722504603Do it pussy
>>722504894That's such a cop out. I'm not suggesting answering every question is necessary, I get that some mystery is expected, like how we will never know who the G Man really is kind of shit, but some answers would be nice. I'm not even saying I want to know more about the void itself, if that is beyond the scope of understanding type shit then fair enough, but this thing caused Act 3 so Act 3 amounted to "and then the black tentacles destroyed everything for no reason, also there were black tentacles underground for no reason"
>>722504991>no argumentStop sucking at the game, then maybe you won't be in such a bad mood all the time, gramps.
>>722505065Okay here is Bilewater.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hM_Hp37By0
>>722505083I'm not even the anon you're arguing with, I'm just calling you what you are. I beat T.Trobbio in 3 tries but it's a fact he's a dogshit boss. Just pure AoE vomit mixed with visual diarrhea.
>>722505057Earthworm Jim did that with its final boss. You fight her butt first, then platform for a bit and find her main body. Imagine Quelaag but as a long ass caterpillar rather than a spider.
>>722505083Nobody argues with assmad zoomoids from reddit shitting themselves. They laugh at them
>>722504973Yes, I really liked him too, and platforming is always fun.>>722505024Yep, it's incredible how they made a boss so good while also telegraphing every attack.
>>722503734It definitely didn't help matters that she shares so much of her moveset with First Sinner
>>722505235>n-not him!Kek, stupid old man.
>>722505017>Gimmick bosses like this suck cock and balls.
>>722505304You know you're just proving yourself to be underage, right?
>>722505264>retarded old fuck got filtered by a basic boss>w-w-we're all laughing at you for not being bad at the game!!!
>>722500420>>722504047>>722503071>>722501975>>722500484
>>722505319>no argumentGo back to your tendie troon threads.
I see the angry commiefornians are starting to get out of bed
>>722505149For me it'shttps://youtu.be/4PVB6Okn73c?list=PLfUKr9nPvx8ABgIm4YYOcY0fLz-za7jA7
Give the colorblind anons a break, you fucking ableists!
>>722505235The only issue I have with Trobbio and bosses like him is that they’re heavily RNG based. Not that this makes them “unfair”, just that a lot of the magic of the whole Danmaku thing they’re doing is the elegance of the patterns. It helps you process what’s happening even among a lot of visual information. Trobbio is>throw balls with 3 random trajectories>balls bounce unpredictably>balls generate random smoke patterns>fireworks appear in random places.The lack of symmetry and predictability in the patterns just makes them less visually impressive
i just got to act 3 and im getting rolled by the centipede, still having fun and had to duct tap my thumb from the pain. love the volt filament and bursty ice thing when something touches me. and the devs deliberately made queen silk pure sex.
>>722505057I hate the bell eater, only have two small parts that you can hit is ass, I spammed the fuck out of tools on it
I just think she's neat
>>722504973i cheesed it with threadstorm plus volt filament and the lightning rod tool. so far the cog dancers are my favourite
>>722505373>REEEE FILTERED!!!What did I tell you just ten minutes ago?Go change your diaper kid, you're starting to smell
>>722505665Yeah we know you crutched on Architect and poison cogflies, you wrinkly piece of shit.
>>722504574I don't think it's hostile, in both games it seemed pretty content to stay in the abyss until it gets brought out (Godseeker and Kill Radiance endings/GMS freaking out trying to save Lace spreading it everywhere). Think it's just in it's nature to devour or corrupt anything it comes into contact with it.
>>722505565>he didn't first try the bell eateract 3's gonna take you a while
>pale king>an arrogant autistic recluse How the FUCK did someone like white lady fall in love with him??
>- Changed Fine Pins wish drops from 50% chance to 100%, but raised required quantity.what was it before and how many are required now?
Is there a lore reason why Lace's counterattack move has its own gravitational pull
>>722504447Hating Lace doesn't mean you'll relish watching her die to the void, you autistic nigger, it means that you need some sort of reaction when she shows up, and for a rival, it has to be hate or annoyance.
>>722505785I don't think love was involved
>>722505780Bell Eater is a bullshit boss though, Karmelita is not. She’s HARDER, arguably, but feels more fun. Bell Eater sucks to fight so every second you spend with it is awful. Karmelita you’re having fun even when you’re losing because the fight feels legible and fair.
>>722505863Yes
>>722505780Who first tries the Bell Eater? It's a shit fight unless you're tool spamming with architect.
>>722505697>WAAAAAH!!! DOESNT COUNT!!!!Well, good thing I did it with reaper then, huh? Silly underage lol
>>722505905>Bell Eater is a bullshit boss thoughWhy is /v/ so bad at this game
>>722505964>he instantly knew he was about to get BTFO>UHHH A-A-ACTUALLY I USED REAPERSure sure we totally believe you, fucking ancient piece of trash.
>>722505993It's one of their first platformers.
>>722504047i wouldn't do it like that but i agree making her a bigger annoying presence would be better since her whole motivation is stopping you from getting to the citadel but you literally only see her once before you get there.
Lol
>>722505993It’s not fun, anon.>more time immune to damage than vulnerable to it, so you spend tons of time just waiting>attack patterns are simple and uninterestingIt IS in fact possible to think a boss isn’t good for reasons other than “waah waah this is too hard”. Nobody’s favorite boss is Bell Eater. Nobody would put it in the top 10. It’s a lame ass fight.
>>722506112>i-it's not hard! I-It's just boring! I-I don't suck!
>>722505993i wouldn't say it's a bullshit boss but it's definitely in my bottom favorite.
>>722505785BWC
>>722506112NTA, but you can attack during its patterns, you know that?I guess this is the same shit as people waiting out all 3 of Sister Splinter's slashes instead of attacking during them.
>>722506057>NUH UH YOU LYING!!!!Again, what did I tell you 15 minutes ago?You're such a fun mix of stupid and seething
>>722506168Correct. The same post I trashed Bell Eater, I praised Karmelita, widely regarded as either the hardest or second hardest boss in the game. It’s not a skill issue. It’s a “4 minutes of butthole punching and dashing away from pink diarrhea globules isn’t entertaining” issue.
>>722506168This but unironically and without the stammering.
>>722505883She literally calls him 'my beloved wyrm' and proceeds to jerk off his qualities
>>722505785White Lady didn't want love, she wanted to BREED.
>>722506281>>722506314Filtered bitch shitters
>7 days after reaching Act 3 and beating Sinner (kino)>finished flea dogshit festival for nail upgrade>beat watcher (shit boss)>beat volt something (shit boss)>beat n-flower something (DOGSHIT BOSS)>uninstallIt's over. Silksong is mid. HK solos
Is the implication from the First Sinner fight that GMS created the Weaver race?
>>722506214It has parry-triggers along the sides so the only way to hit it is to be directly in line with its head or ass, which means standing in the path of its projectile fountains. You can dodge the triples of single bouncing globs and attack between, but not the spray.If you’re saying it can be damaged during its “run across the ceiling and floor and drop bells” sequences, that is actually news to me.
>>722503701i watched 2 friends play silksong as they shared screen to me and when they were done i asked them if they thought lost lace or trobbio gave them any troubles seeing shit and they said no. i was surprised to see how many people complained about not seeing anything in either fight when i went to the internet after finishing silksong first myself.
>>722506357Make one for Nuu.
>>722502652It's the same mask just upsidedown.
>>722506390Yes, GMS uplifted pharlids into weavers to worship and serve her as her "daughters"It didnt work when the weavers found out
>>722506390Weavers were originally normal spiders with no mind at all. Mommy Silk made them into powerful and conscious beings.
>>722506378>goes out of his way to beat a bunch of optional bossesnot that they're free of criticism but that's like bitching about hollow knight because of the pantheon of hallownest.
>>722506376Filtered by what? I beat the game 100%. It is probably the worst boss in act 3 and top 5 worst bosses in the game.
>>722506467>>722506483So the Weavers turned against her and then fled and left the consequences of their actions to the people of Pharloom?
>>722506420I can see occasionally fucking something up because those fights do get really chaotic, but people act like they literally can't comprehend a single thing that's happening which to me just screams "retard"
>>722506489Nyleth is only optional in the loosest sense. Technically she can be skipped, but only by DOING an optional boss, the story leads you right to her.
>>722506528Yeah we know you crutched with Architect or Wanderer you shitter
>>722506575true. though i fucking loved the seth battle (i agree nyleth is dogshit).
>>722506451I thought there was one already
>>722506556Pale King and Mommy Silk are terrible rulers in their own unique ways.
>>722506653Not like that.
>>722506657if radiance hadn't come back and fucked things up, pale king would be a near perfect ruler. he didn't even force the moths to forget about radiance or anything as far as we know.
>>722506636Projecting much. Just say the words, say "the boss was too hard for me"
>>722506556Some of them fled and hid rather than rebel, like HerrahThe rebels won and took over Pharloom and sealed GMS away. And then the retards at whiteward began injecting silk into their citizens, which is how GMS started the Haunting and slowly took over their minds, destroying pharloom from within. If this sounds familiar to you, it's because a certain white moth did the same shit
>>722506768>n-no u!Concession accepted.
>HK3 with colorful marine themed world with a new protag>story revolves around a pale being moving in and slowly turning everything to shit>you fight against a metaphorical rushing tide>only in the very final act you get powerful enough to defeat/deter the pale being>world is a wasteland after
>>722506753If he was so great then what did he need buzzsaws for?
>>722506824What am I conceding again? Remind me? Because I don't think you even know.
>>722506768Nigger I'm not the one crying about the fucking BELL EATER being a "bullshit boss".
>>722506908he had a lot of herrah futa porn hidden in his room and couldn't afford anyone finding it.
>>722506803Are GMS and Radiance the same 'species' in the sense that they are basically godesses?
>>722506753>he didn't even force the moths to forget about radiance or anything as far as we know.Yes he did. He went the extra mile of ensuring nobody remembered the radiance existed and destroyed all traces of her civilization that he usurped.
>>722506982Neither am I? What the fuck are you talking about. I'm the anon that said it was mid.
>>722506827>He thinks we're getting HK3I was 20 when HK came out and 29 when Silksong came out.
>>722507040>He went the extra mile of ensuring nobody remembered the radiance existedwhen?>and destroyed all traces of her civilization that he usurpedw-when?
>>722506378good, bossfags should be hanged
>>722507032Yes. Hornet refers to them as the upper caste and pale beings several times. Her dialog with Green prince in verdania is basically>It's not your fault, this is the kind of shit these gods pullAnd yes, Hornet is aware her father is also one of these
This is a caterpillar.
>>722506908>picFucking kekBut the saws aren’t real. They’re a dream. They’re a metaphor for the difficulties of navigating and ascending the court of Hallownest. Just like how the Path of Pain represents the memory being deeply repressed, it’s hidden in the furthest corner of the mind and basically unreachable.All of White Palace exists within the dream of a Kingsmould. They represent the Void being’s view of the Pale King; impossibly far out of reach, gleaming impossibly bright, requiring a perpetual exertion of effort to please him and win his favor.
>>722507140>when?After he usurped her kingdom, cant you read?Go check out the last moth's dialog. Also fun fact, you can find the place where the infection officially started: It's the only statue of the radiance in the entire game atop Crystal Peak that has dream nail dialog "Remember the light"
>>722507191Thanks, loreanon.
>>722507107I'm almost 40 now. We're all gonna make it.
Get in here, lads.>>722507494
>>722507393i don't recall the pale king ever doing anything to make sure the radiance was forgotten nor anyone including the seer hinting at it. also, the resting grounds still has the small settlement seer lives in and the spirit's glade which if i remember correctly was also of moth origin, and considering we see the dreamer statues in there you know the pale king was well aware of that place.
>>722507269nah it is funnier if the saws are real
>>722507616I also don’t know why people blame the King for the Radiance. His light usurped her light, and her followers turned to him and forgot her, but that wasn’t malicious. It was just a thing that happened. Motherfucker landed his boats on the shores of Bug North America and gave all the natives dream smallpox.
