Silksong is a special game, isn't it?
>>722619246Dunno. I got bored of it 5 hours in. Playing spooky games now :)
>>722619434Silksong can get spooky.
>>722619539I'll pick it back up soon
>>722619246if they fix act 3 with DLC it'll be goated... until then 5/10
>>722619539>poison cogfliesYou didn't play the game.
>>722619951This
dogshit boss90% of it is praying you get good rng and he doesn't do the triple slash when shade cloak is downwhat a joke
>>722620412Maybe don't constantly have Shade Cloak on CD, then?
>ironI hope someone was fired for this blunder.
>>722619246i was planning on platinum it but then i realize you have to beat the game 100% in 30 hours without dying oncelike, fuck off retard
>>722620606Just close out of the game if you're about to die.
>>722620412remember in the last thread when i posted the video of me easily demolishing this boss after not playing for three years on one of my first attempts? and another guy did the same thing? have you tried dodging the attacks like we showed you?
>>722620895>attunedstfu retard
>>722620412The easiest Silksong boss
>>722620606done without abusing save and quit cheese
>>722621019lost lace is unironically 1000x easier than that guy just because you can heal. you can't heal for shit in HK because it takes 3x as long as in silksong.
>>722621021dont caresounds extremely tedious and tiring
>>722621021dropped my screenshot>>722620984sorry what are you doing, radiant? do you need me to show you how to do that too retard?
>>722621090He does have more health on Ascended and Radiant but it's only a 15% increase
>>722620412what the fuck is that black health, is it the reason you're not healing, and if so why are you using it
>>722620412>>722620441>>722620895>>722620984>>722621019You guys are really fucking boring and have made these threads complete dogshit, and it's likely you have done to this to every community you post in blissfully unaware of how dull you are.Kill yourselves.
...aaahhh....aaahhh?aaaaahhh??melle-moooo...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnk0rQ4vOns
>>722621751boohoo
>>722621751>one person posts "this boss is hard">another person posts "no it isn't"oh god my community how could this happen
>>722621751This isn’t your community nigger drop the game and fuck off if it’s too hard for you
>>722621862Why did the HK NPCs have so much more soul?
I just think she's neat
Played Silksong first then tried out Hollow Knight.How come the abyss is scarier in the first game? I'm now a void creature this place is supposed to feel like home. Yet the design and ambience feel more hostile and creepy than the abyss in Silksong despite it being a much more dangerous and alien place to Hornet.
bros how the fuck do you easily record webms under 4 mb. i am really retarded and struggling with this, this took me 15 minutes and i ruined the quality lmao. here is pure vessel radiant
Pure Vessel should've been more difficult, he should've been slightly faster and he should've gotten more unpredictable the lower his HP got. I am not joking.
>>722619246It has a great deal of SOVL.
>>722622189Because she has the plot device flower that protects her.
>>722622476I just use Webms for Retards and give it a set bitrate depending on the length, you can also dynamicly trim it, we don't need to see the first 14 seconds because it's just the intro and you can still have the ending to show it's on Radiant
>>722622189more effort was put into hk's abyss. in sk it's just used for a moment to facilitate the mid plot.
>>722620412You know you can jump right
does anyone got useful tips for seth, karmelita and that other guy in sands of karak
>>722621081You have to do 3x as many hits to heal once in Silksong. You can also use Shape of Unn to move while healing. All you need is Isma's Tear to get it, meaning you just need to defeat Dung Defender, an early game boss.
>>722623241you can use poison tacks and sawblades to cheese if you want. throw on some lifeblood for good measure.
>>722620412BOOhttps://files.catbox.moe/5js594.mp4
>>722620558Hornet can't tell metals apart, she's a woman after all. She only knows gold, silver, and iron.
>>722621019Despite all the complaints none of Silksong's bosses are harder than NKG + PV + AbsRad. Silksong's problem is that you're facing 90% of the bosses when you're still in early game or mid game gear, so they seem hard because you're used to the knight's endgame gear. But if you played the Silksong bosses in its godhome equivalent with endgame gear and upgrades you'd see they're not that difficult in the end.
>>722623241For seth when he does his shield slam he always follows up with a ground level charge, easiest time to pogo him
>>722620558iron just sounds cooler. like iron man.
>>722622092Silksong was overdeveloped. Devs should've shoved it out in 2020/2021. The 2019 trailer was remarkably similar to the game we got in 2025.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZinttNiyU
>>722619246Yes. It's a great game.>>722620127Actually you didn't. Imagine not enjoying the best items in a recently-released game. Imagine in a few years after they're nerfed, you will NEVER have experienced peak poison cogflies. Pathetic.
>>722623021Silksong bosses are really well designed. Just did my second playthrough for speedrun and first tried lost lace just because he attacks are so well telegraphed that once you learn the movement to avoid and punish each one, the execution just comes really naturally.Also you can punish the phase 2 white aoe attack with a dash attack as she's landing, and then pogo after I think never gets hit by the tendrils but I don't know if that's 100% consistent
>>722622092They're about equal.
>>722619246I salute the devs for basically bullying/forcing """reviewers""" into giving the game high scores. This alone makes the game special.
>>722623931dilate
>>722623931People can only treat you (and your game) how you allow them to.Team Cherry doesn't let little faggot reviewers slander/libel their masterpiece.I respect the fuck out of that.
>>722622189I'd say because in HK it's a huge, huge empty space until you reach the bottom where you see a bunch of corpses, and only then ghosts start to appear. It has a lot of build up for it to feel extremely alien. In silksong its purpose seems more to feel extremely hostile rather than extremely alien; I feel much more tense playing through SS's than HK's consistently, while HK had a much much better first impression but after that it was whatever.
>>722622476can't help but notice no one replied to this to call me out for being bad. can i now accept your concession that pure vessel is fair and easy if you don't flail around like a retard?
>>722622092Because Silksong NPCs have silk, not soul
>>722624129look man you beat it but that's because you were playing in a totally different way than me and if i can't play in my own hunga bunga way the boss is shit. simple as.
>>722624180They presumably have Soul as well, Hornet just can't gather it
>>722624180Technically Silk is spun from Soul
Did I beat the game guys?>CogfliesB-b-but I didn't use them!
>>722622476Use WebM for Lazys (previously called webm for retards) and set size limit to something like 3.9MB.
>>722620412>praying you get good rng and he doesn't do the triple slash when shade cloak is downYou know you can just jump right?
>>722622596thats a pen0r
>>722624453The size limit doesn't work most of the time, if it's too big it'll just cut the end of it off
>>722624305i am playing in the most straightforward and normal way possible dude i'm literally just walking at him and attacking
>>722619246Special ed
>>722623241Coral King is easy, but he's a zoner so don't get greedy and just focus on avoiding if you can't find the hits. Always look to get under the jump up down diagonal and in front of the straight up one for the biggest punishes. Seth is a bit tricky, staying aerial is pretty safe as long as you can react to the slam fast enough to double jump. Don't try to run away as he'll catch you, just play in a small range. When he starts triple slamming, you can go above the first one but it's easiest to just land and dash to avoid the other two. After the slam/triple slam he has a ground attack that he always does that leaves him open for multiple hits.Karmelita is just a tough boss, so there is a big git-gud factor and tips are only small. Walljump -> double jump puts you high enough that she can't reach so you can nix healing speed/protection and safely heal at the top. You want to stay grounded mostly since her ground combos are the most punishable. Memorize and internalize the pose she makes before she throws her projectiles and always be ready for them as she'll weave them in way more in her final phase. You will get hit once or twice by her spinball, sometimes she just corners you as you jump over a different attack and it's near impossible to avoid fast enough. If you are too afraid of the mixup between her spinball and jumping projectiles, she's got a safe spot from both beneath her (but watch out as she lands). Generally though, other than punishing the dash or if you're forced to jump out of the corner to avoid a grounded attack, you don't want to pogo. Once she corners herself just get close and grounded slash as all of her grounded moves have reactable enough startup to dash away from and you just have to recognize the dash/projectile startup to know to jump while running back. If she does a grounded attack you can just keep attacking after you avoid it with your dashback
>>722624834you said you didn't see anyone calling it out for being bad so i did my best.
>>722622189I've been saying this since I beat act 3, the abyss in silksong is a massive fucking disappointment, when I first got there and the diving bell broke I was really feeling that tense atmosphere, as the title of the area dropped I was on the edge of my seat, seeing the new worm enemies and then the fuckhuge guys really drove home how hostile of an environment it was... and then... that's it, pretty much the entire abyss is over, you get a convenient map for it and everything and an escape sequence that felt so contrived and artificial for hornet to escape just as quickly as she got down there, I seriously don't get the praise for that sequence at all, maybe it's just recency bias?god damn I can't beat this drum enough of how big of a disappointment it was, there's all this mystique to the abyss and we pretty much see nothing of it, just a few lame rooms with like 3 enemy types, one of which was also in HK and just walks back and forth on platforms, fuck it's just so lame, at least in HK you had the light house and the fucking choso statue, we barely get anything in SS, no unique encounters or bosses aside from the final onethey spent all that effort on coral tower only to gut it and put a shit ton of unique enemies in what amounts to a gauntlet/arena and in 7 years they didn't think of putting in the time to work on the abyss a bit further? man what a fucking blue balls experience
>>722624709Doesn't cut off for me, I dunno anon. You can also try reduce the video resolution to see if that helps.
>>722625258i can't relate but i understand what you say. however the escape sequence is a completely different story, i loved it because hornet had just finished saying "i WILL unfuck my fuck up and save pharloom" and the epic abyss escape with the triumphant music felt very heroic, like it was an extremely pivotal point in the plot.
>>722625258This, I entered the abyss, saw new enemies and thought "Holy shit, they finally got to do the expanded abyss that they couldn't do for Hollow Knight" and then it ended up having basically nothing. The lava escape sequence really doesn't count to me since it's not really an abyss area, but more of a Deep Docks area.
>>722625258I liked the escape sequence but the abyss itself was a disappointment yes. To a non-void creature it should be a completely alien oppressive confusing place, but the Weavenests felt more like that.
>>722625258act 3 is scuffed. pointless nameless town platforming, retarded green prince story, very underwhelming abyss.It's cringe to see all the cut content squashed into dream shit too. hopefully it gets fleshed out
>>722625319See that cyst? Thats where a charm used to be.
>>722625730the green prince story was a really good subplot though. the only thing i didn't like were those FUCKING verdania enemies that teleport fucking everywhere.
Post your best Laces.
>>722625319One thing I really liked in the original game is that as you approached important areas of interest the weather and environment would respond to you. Like how in the ancient basin the wind gradually picks up and the infection seeds get faster as they run away from you, but when you pick up the monarch wings everything becomes still and eerily quiet.
>>722625994
>>722625863Yeah I don't get people complaining about the flying enemies backing off (unless they're going far as fuck out over a massive pit), since it lets you satisfyingly corner them or use your movement abilities to get one over on them which is satisfying gameplay over just slowly walking/drifting into every enemy and they just take it.The teleporting Verdania enemies can fuck right off though since they throw all that shit out and FORCES you to wait for them to attack to get attacks in
>>722626061What's with the emo vibe? Lace is a brat not an emo.
>>722626279It looks cool
It's special how bosses do attacks and then immediately teleport on top of you for contact damage and one shot you. Very special game design.
>>722626257i really don't like the flying enemies because they only become marginally less obnoxious when you get the clawline, but those verdania motherfuckers not only fucking teleport everywhere but won't stop fucking chasing you around if you try to ignore them.
>>722623021Hit phase 2 yesterday before dying. I'll probably throw myself at it a few more times tomorrow. I play way too passive(I mainly do Reaper hit and run) and not taking advantage of a lot of openings I could be. I can't see mnyself taking more than 2-3 more attempts now that I know what to do though.
>>722619246It's a game for special people
>>722626412So just kill them you lazy nigger.
>>722619246
>>722626387which bosses do that? I only recall Lace 3 ever telegraphing on me.>>722626503>part 30holy shit
>>722626549some streamer girl took 90 hours to 100% the game and she didn't even do everything like all the mementos
>>722626387post one clip of this happening where you didn't blatantly have time to react
>>722626457I tried doing Reaper hitless and gave up, it's too slow
>>722626549>>722626792Phantom literally teleports on top of you all the fucking time.
>>722627004what? no, unless you're talking about that extremely telegraphed attack where she jumps and dives on top of you.
I'm replaying Hollow Knight and the entire game feels like it's the exact kind of game anyone could make if given enough time and money. I felt the same the first time I played it and it feels the same way now. The gameplay isn't special, the physics and movement feel fine and tight, the speed of everything is fine, combat is predictable and boring but challenging, the upgrades and progression feel like a good pace. Everything is just safe and amateurish yet very polished, idk how to describe it.
>>722620412Thanks for highlighting that bosses were damage spongey shit even in HK. Over a minute of just the same 3 moves over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Fight could have been half as long as nothing would have been lost.
>>722627168Nothing particularly stands out in Hollow Knight (except for the little moments and the atmosphere), but every single aspect of it is consistently good, so the result is more than the sum of its parts. At least that's how I'd explain it. In most other games you have some really really good stuff and then some mediocre or even dogshit aspect.
>>722627192>wanting a 30 second boss fightYeah great, besides he's on the harder difficulty where he has more health and it's one of the end-game bosses and he has 7 moves
>>722627064No, he does the wide brand and then you run to the left or right but then he teleports right where you run to. This happens every single time.
>>722627458phantom is female and stop running around like a retard. she's not teleporting onto you you're running into her because you're an adhd child who can't patiently sit still
What were they thinking?!?
>>722627458i genuinely don't remember that happening to me. i'd have to play him again, watch you playing it, or watch a clip.
>>722627275Yeah "consistent" is another way to describe it, there's just nothing offensive or remarkable about it, but I wouldn't really call it bland either. Seeing Quirrel is always nice, of course. The only valid complaint is the sound design and the voice acting.
>>722624453Not him but I'm too dumb and lazy for it.
>>722627608Well you have to dodge the beam. But then he literally tracks where you are walking and teleports on top of you. Me and my mate are looking around the room to see if it's some sort of gimmick fight, or maybe we are missing some sort of item or something.
>>722627824>he doesn't know about the hidden glock in exhaust organ that lets you shoot phantom in the head and instantly kill himkino game design i kneel
>>722627824if phantoms comically slow and telegraphed needle dash is a teleport to you, first sinner is going to end your run. if you even make it that far, lol
>>722625994On model lace
Do play who say the finished the game in 50 hours or something just not explore? Even if I were to beat every boss on the first try I can't imagine taking so little on a first playthrough.
>>722628294my first run was 40 hours and i feel like i pretty much did everything in the game idk. my steel soul 100% run was 13 hours and i didn't really know where i was going like half the time
>>722628294my 100% all mementos everything first playthrough was 54 hours
>>722628363>>722628456I guess I just suck. I'm 30 hours and just starting act 2.
>>722628592that is definitely way too long. i don't even know what i'd spend 30 hours on in act 1
>>722628592I'm 96% at 63 hours. That's with me beating half the bosses and gauntlets first try and beating most of the other bosses/gauntlets in 2-3 tries.I just spent a lot of time meandering aimlessly. Plus about 2 hours of that is probably me idling while posting here and browsing 4chan.
>>722628635I think my longest time stuck on something was like 4 hours fighting the Savage Beastly before realizing I hit it like 50 times without killing it so I better come back when I upgrade my needle. Other than that, I had more trouble with platforming than boss fights. Oh, and the fucking enemies in Sinner's Road. I tried to explore everything I could before fighting the Last Judge.
>>722627192Pure Vessel is a superboss and he has way more than 3 moves>Lunge >Triple slash>Knives>Void tendrils>Rune explosion>Parry>Sword pillars
>>722628592I got to Act 2 in like 15 hrs granted I didn't explore Sinner's Road, Bilewater, or the Mists
>>722626640>I am on par with some shitty streamer girlAs much as it hurts to realize, that's probably right.I honestly don't even know what I spent all my time doing but it somehow got up there.
I hope DLCs let you restore, pharloom to act 1/2 levels because I can't think of anything more uncomfy than locking all that content away in shitty voided map. Just give me my comfy bellhart back
>>722619246Got bored near the end of act 2 and stopped playing.
>>722626503Think he looked it up or was told, seems a bit odd he found the room to turn the Silk things off and he also doesn't comment on the sheer length of the gauntlet
>Super fast paced, flashy, intense secret boss with important lore is easier than a giant fly that headbutts you
>>722628592Just play at your own pace dude
>>722629112knowing that this would happen kind of ruined the experience of the act 2 ending, because i checklisted some of the finishing touches to avoid doing it later during the void cancer aids.at the same time, im glad i was spoiled so i dont have to do any of that shit during the void cancer aids. bit of a lose-lose
>>722619246I finally figure out the fog area, but the boss fight was ass. 90% percent of it was unreactable contact damage, so I used tack for passive damage and the flea potion to run away in the mean time. Why cant all bosses be like trobbio and hurt you with their actual attacks?
>>722628137It's when he teleports away to do the beam attack and teleports back in
>>722629908"game is only playable with mods" poster is getting more obvious by the day
>>722630017He's been coming here daily with the most bizarre takes, I think starting with "HK's moveset was better and more fluid than SS's".
LETS FUCKING GO HORNEEEEEEEEEEET
lace is a child, you tranny pedos
>>722629191How many needle upgrades is that? I went to the High Halls as soon as I got Clawline and my first two attempts at the gauntlet were with a +1 needle. Then I gave up and went to go get the other two songs first, got +2 needle and did the gauntlet with ease (no Garmond).
>>722630327I don't know, I'm not watching him, someone just linked that one a few days ago although he was doing the rasher quest as well so maybe he got that one and the free one
>>722630017Stfu with your poopdickschizo nonsense
>>722630327I'm pretty sure the intended order is Whispering Vaults -> Cogwork Tower -> High Halls
>>722630568you have to go through cogwork core to get to the vaults
>>722629427God she's hot. She can trap me in her webs anytime she wants.
>>722629427that's why first sinner is the best boss.
>>722630709The second part of the core is blocked off by needing the Clawline
>>722630969you should already have it
>>722622189The Abyss in Hallownest was a carved out area designed to harvest void for the king's use and to serve as the incubation chamber for literally millions of wyrm-tree void babies. The Abyss in Pharloom was the result of some miners digging a bit too far and immediately noping the fuck out, until a few Weavers decided to join the licorice cult.
>>722630969Clawline is just from going through Whiteward into Underworks and the key for that is from Songclave, there is no intended route though, could easily do them in any order
>>722630969You get to the right side of Underworks through Whiteward.
Lace in hollownest
>>722631449i can't read this shit faggot
>>722631148The ancient civilisation that was located at Hallownest worshipped the Void, anon. The Abyss was there before anything else got there. It wasn't "carved out" by the Pale King.
>>722626412Hit r3, dummy
Team Shillry cut so much content. we were robbed of an actual hive type area where we could fight Hornet's mentor.
>>722629427>I'm sure to win because my speed is superior
>>722631201You can access Songclave through the Vaults, that's how I did it
>>722631486Learn a different language
>>722631594i'm trilingual. i just don't know you're garbage moon runes, and neither do you cuz you're a fake weeb, troon
>>722631201>>722631326the cogwork entrance to the vaults is faster than going through whiteward if you can platform well and you need to go through it anyway to fight trobbio and unlock the way to the vault melody
>>722631514didnt she die in HK 1 from growing too big? How would she be in Silksong?
>>722631578As opposed to just walking right after Dancers? I guess if you don't need Clawline for Vaults at all you could say that can be the first one but I never got the impression they were trying to imply any of them should be done in a certain order
>>722631783>fake weebbut that's chink...
>>722631892Yeah I went down to the new area that opened up
>>722631901if you're obsessed with any asian country as a westerner you're a weeb no matter what country it is. it's all the same garbage
>>722632062알겠어요...
>>722627639they really hate spiders down there
>>722631793I did Whiteward before I started going for the songs since you get it the key at Songclave or the first shrine at that point and you generally go there right after getting the quest for the 3 songs
>>722631892I think ending the melody collection with the High Halls is the most fitting. It's the most prestigious part of the Citadel with the toughest enemies and the giant gauntlet feels like a good climax to the whole area. The Conductor is also the guy in charge of the whole Citadel not counting GMS or Lace
>>722619539Whiteward is such a kino area, shame it's only a couple rooms.
>>722629191>hink he looked it up or was told,He's had a faggot in his chat giving him step by step on where to go. The guy's got mapgenie and some guide open trying to fit directions into 200 characters. The faggot hasnt even played the game himself. It's insane to watch. There was a solid ten minute segment today of him trying and failing to explain where the bilewater secret bench was to DSP.
>>722632704Well it's not like you'd know that the first time playing, looking at the achievements I did Vaults > High Halls > Core, I mean the Core is the highest point on the map you have available at the time and has an impressive ending too
Bone Bottom or Dirtmouth?
i like the whole "here's 3 things you gotta get, do them in any order you want" but i wish the areas were more expansive. i didn't like the vaults, high halls was very short, and cogwork core was cool but only had like one or two open rooms and didn't even have a proper boss. lot more potential with those places
for being so important it's strange we never learn what the religion is about
>>722633090if you wanna compare the two, you have to use bellhart. bellhart is the proper town in this game and is the equivalent of dirtmouth even those bone bottom is more "aesthetically" similiar
>>722633259The religion is about doing whatever the Pale Being says. Hornet is the pale being now.
>>722633090I prefer Bone Bottom as a settlement because of all the NPCs in the back and foreground make it feel more alive, it's also more clearly not meant to be a hub, just a starting point
>>722633090Dirtmouth itself was nicer as a settlement, but the overall area of Moss Grotto was nicer.
>>722633259All religions are pretty much the same so it doesn't really matter
>>722631856The same way Kahnn is.
SHAW
>>722633443kahn has a physical body in the world thoughbeit
>>722633259What do you mean, it's all made up to get bugs to do whatever they want, come to think of it how do bugs from outside Pharloom even know about it to feel that they need to do a pilgrimage
>>722633571They're naturally drawn to the Citadel because the silk is part of their dna due being descendants of Whiteward patients
>>722620127https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2gA_kWieYE
>>722633571>>722633350>>722633319All we know is that they are put to work in the underworks as soon as they arrived. but what do they worship? what are the religion's teachings? what do they expect to find in the citadel?
>>722633665Where is that explained, I know the Snail says that Silk goes through their DNA but I thought that was just to explain how the Haunting can affect bugs from outside the place, I don't remember it being said that it draws them in let alone makes them think there's a religious significance to it, but maybe it's one of those things they say so often I don't pay attention to it
>>722633746untrue. many go to the choir
>>722633549That's not necessary. Vespa exists in Hornet's memory, so she could conceivably be fought.
>>722633746>but what do they worshipThe Weavers. >What are the Religions TeachingsI don't think it's a moralizing Religion. It's more like Shintoism or the Greek Pantheon. These Gods aren't worshipped because they're moral, they're worshipped because they clearly run things and if you don't give them your money they're going to get mad and if you make them happy you might get to live in a cool Palace and live forever or something.
>>722620412>not bouncing on him for the ground blade attackidk why you wouldn't do that since it comes out too fast to react to properly otherwise.
>>722620558provocative thumbnail
>>722634324>underworks>slab>whiteward>"I don't think it's a moralizing Religion"
>>722634463I'm not really seeing evidence of Morals in these locations. Just expressions of authority.>Work Hard>Obey>Die
>>722634463>sewers failing without maintenance>prison taken over by fliggers>hospital that grants immortality wow what an awful city
>>722634324>what do they worship>The WeaversThey never sing about the weavers. They sing about the climb, absolution, song.
>>722634616In the Underworks and Slab they're told they're being punished because they sinned and they must work/serve their sentence for absolution is what he's getting at, if it was just meant to be the gods being in charge they'd probably just say "do what we tell you"
>>722634634Shinto Monks walking up a Mountain to worship Amaterasu talk about the same shit but ultimately that's just ascetic trapping on your way up to honor your Ancestor Dommy Mommy so she makes the rice grow.
I stopped playing after I beat Trobbio. Am I missing out?
>>722619246It's truly like nothing else
>>722634463The underworks wagies are subjected to propaganda telling them that they're sinful and that only through labor can they atone. The entire premise of the slab is that it's a place to lock up sinners. And the whiteward reveals that even dying without permission is a sin.We also know that they have commandments like not bringing a weapon or fighting on the pilgrimage.Their religion is very concerned with abiding by a moral code. To a fanatical degree.
>>722634934Very
>>722634980It can't be better than Sonic Crossworlds...
>>722634962oops, meant for >>722634616
>>722620412I’m actually sad that Silksong doesn’t have its version of shade cloak, the game forcing you to iframe dodge certain projectiles was interesting.
>>722634634In some of the relics they thank/ask the weavers for blessings and guidance.
>>722635101It does, sharpdart
>>722635302Not really the same, that’s a dedicated skill you have to equip and spend silk on, not a basic mobility mechanic.
>>722635367well, it is A version of shade cloak.
>>722635406But the fact that the game can’t count on you to have access to it means it can’t design fights around that assumption. You don’t get stuff like the moving projectile walls that can only be avoided by dodging through them.
>>722634962The mistake here is thinking the label of "Sin" is an honest one. The "Sin" in Pharloom is transgressing the authority of the Deity. Only it's a very petty OCD Deity whose trying to create and maintain their ideal world, not necessarily for benevolent moral reason but because it's what Silk wants things to be like. Silk isn't building a Religion to honor some sort of underlying moral ideal native to Pharloom, she's just trying to make her Dominion permanent and all encompassing. No violence or death, just obedience and harmony. You contravene that, even indirectly or incidentally, and you're punished as a Sinner.
>>722633746How much information flow do you think exists? How many societies do you think have industrialized? Consider that the average bug not in one of the larger tribal societies is basically a middle ages peasant and why they would need more than just the fanciest people they've ever seen, like the ones going out and capturing weaver-kin, to evangelize a little bit and spread the idea of a pilgrimage to a holy city to join in on the idea.All they need to know is that the citadel is a religious society and it's the greatest fucking place they've ever seen, all white and brass and glass and not just a tent or a cave, and they'd probably subscribe to any rules presented to them without even asking who the big man is on top is. They don't need to know that GMS is a literal god or why the weavers call the shots, because the worth of the society is evident in its splendor.That's the kind of thing that happens for a religious society when the god is a physical being that lives there. Do you study the exact reasoning and history behind every law passed in the country you live? No, it's just the law
>>722635485having an i frame dash only inhibits boss design
>>722635101I like it, I'm glad Silksong is its own thing instead of being a Hollow Knight clone. Hollow Knight designed boss fights based on the player timing their iframes properly, while Silksong designed boss fights based on the player taking advantage of all the mobility options for more hit-and-run gameplay. And, you know, tool spam.
>>722632704I don't think lace controls anything at all. she's more like one of those doll toys to play mom with
>>722635101Forced i-frame dodging is boring, because it's the only option so it's just a qte. I enjoy no i-frames much more because avoidance means something and attack patterns need to have a reasonable method of dodging, but if you want to do something interesting just start learning to parry more attacks.Even though it's just mashing, parrying flurry attacks is a primal satisfaction. Though the mechanic is a bit hard to focus on in the normal gameplay because parrying only affects attacks and not collision, so there's a lot to be explored with how to successfully parry each individual attack without getting hit by collision.I wonder Witch dash attack can uniquely parry some things without collision since there's like some dinky 4 or so i-frames during the move
>>722635536That's still a highly moralistic religion. One of the most pressing concerns for the pilgrims, laborers, and the choir is remaining on the right side of their religion's moral code.>>722635576>sends out squads of bugs wearing clean, intact clothes>with well made metal weapons, armor, and religious implements>and some can even do magicPharloom definitely knows how to do PR.
Who built this shit?
Don Garmonte
>>722635714Sales pitch: you get iframes on the travel of clawline.It doesn’t let you dodge through bosses, since you’d make contact and hit them. But it still lets you dodge through projectiles, though the silk spend makes it a bad idea to abuse it whenever projectiles appear, so it’s only wise when you know it’s optimal or required to avoid damage.
finally beat pantheon of the knightfuck what a chore
This was a huge shit by TC
>>722635536I don't think Silk had much if anything to do with the way the current religion is set up, presumably the old statue in the Vaults is from her time and they were advocating asceticism, Whiteward came after and maybe the Underworks too because the Chorus and Cog robots are powered by the fireflies extracted in Whiteward. She did punish people in the Slab but that was presumably only after the Weavers threw their fit if First Sinner is truly the first
>>722636693It kinda bothers me that Zaza never moves from that spot. Feels like the little guy doesn't get any closure.
>>722636257Oh, I meant "Moralizing" as in the Religion was not invented with the intent to express a new idea of Right and Wrong for the sake of those virtues in and of themselves. It's indeed an extremely moralistic Religion because it's essentially turned the entire Legal Code into Ecclesiastical Law but what I'm trying to express is that this is a manifestation of extreme Authoritarianism as the result of Pharloom having an Immortal God Queen who literally has her threads in everything.
>>722636930there isnt any closer, the little guy has lost his reason to live
>>722637168Garmond would want him to live.
>>722636693We kill that green nigga cuz he's sad. We should be able to kill this lil bug nigga too, put them out of their misery.
>>722637289Wrong. We kill that green nigga cuz he gay
>>722637289hornet said she was going to leave green nigga alone before killing him. right now the explanation is that hornet is homophobic
>most people dont use clawline>most people dont use tools>most people dont use skills>most people dont use charged attacks>most people just walk towards bosses and try to spam attack while being hit by almost everything>most people think silksong is a hard game
>>722636620holy kino
>>722637450>clawlineYou>toolsdid>skillsnot>charged attacksbeat the game
>>722636929Based on the decree we find tucked away in The Whiteward, it was built on her orders that Death be banned from her Kingdom. That's why the other dude is considered to have committed a Sin for failing to revive while getting sutured.
I fucking love those goddamn fleas, man
>>722637450I use everything. But I never use it all at the same time. If I remember to use the clawline, I forget to use tools. And so on. My brain is too tiny to keep up with everything.
>>722637450>sequel has a bunch of new gameplay features intended to provide a different experience>autismos ignore them and whine it's not the same as the first oneWoah, it really is like DS2
>>722637620silksong doesnt have repulsive texturework and awful level design half the game
>>722637565Silk suturing was after she was imprisoned I think, I'm just guessing, I don't think she'd want them messing around with her Silk powers, only the Weavers she personally gave them to could
>>722637620most people who don't use everything are people who jumped straight into silksong.
>>722623931how did they do that?
>>722629006Is there even shit you can do there?I'm in act 1. Sinner's road doesn't seem to have a boss. Went to bile water and it looks like you need double jump to make any progress. If you go to the mist area, it's some lost woods style infinite loop bullshit.
>>722638219Yeah, you can get through the mist, but if you're first playthrough I'd go through a more standard area for now
>>722629427Savage fly beast isn't even that heard. I can't believe shitters cry about it.
Do boxes like this ever contain anything other than shards because I'm almost always at max shards when I open them.
>>722638349I think it's mostly just because it's the first boss the game throws at you that actively punishes you for being to aggressive and begins the process of having to choose your shots. So a lot of people got filtered after spending the first few hours feeling untouchable.
>>722637620>people not using shit are bad at the game>>722637521>using shit makes you bad at the gameso which is it
>>722638481don't they contain money?
>>722638481I don't think chests ever contain shards, it's always rosaries or maybe rarely an item
>>722638481Most of them are rosaries, including the one in your image.
>>722637595Awooo :D
>>722638558Most of the YDNBTG crowd are actually shitters, they're just larping trying to pretend they're so cool they can do goofy challenge runs, ignoring the people who actually do goofy challenge runs are the people who know the game inside and out including all the shit in the game.
I love everything about it except for the long platforming sequences. I'm trying to get to Act 3 and having to find these fucking fleas is a chore so I'm using hacks to get through the insufferable platforming. I enjoy the gauntlets and boss fights and never have to cheat on those. I hope there's more of that in Act 3 and less platforming
>>722638752You don't need Flees to get to Act 3, just do Quests form the Task boards.
I just use wanderer crest, thread storm and long pins. My brain still hasn't adapted to using clawline in battle yet.I feel like thats as basic as basic gets.
>>722638871you need enough to move them for the last time no?
Just accidentally broke the bridge and triggered the event that kills the scared pilgrim in the start area. Luckily I discovered I could roll back saves and got him back after I beat the boss and watched the sad funeral. I didn't check if his body dropped a rare item though.
>>722638752>>722638871You need enough to move the caravan, which is 22 out of 30. The sticking point for them is usually finding the ducts.But that's besides the point, guy bought a Metroidvania and is complaining about the platforming, the fuck were you expecting?
>>722638921I don't think so, no.
reminder >>722630017
A lot has been said about hornet's feelings for her father but if you deliver the lacquer to the mask make but unmask him first you'll find out horny is not quite fond of the weavers either
>>722639018You do need them at fleatopia to get the quest to unlock act 3.
>>722639027Understandable since Herrah herself told Hornet not to listen to their bullshit.
>>722639023he just said he's mods because he can't platform. it's kinda odd but theyre not crashing out over it so w/e
>>722619246Sure, if you're a special player
>>722638752just because youre a consolefag doesnt mean I have to suffer like you
>>722639027She is talking about her father I think, I can't remember the whole conversation but it was about how higher beings don't normally concern themselves with caring for lesser bugs
>>722639027>>722639284pale beings finna alegory fo dem YTpepo an shietkeel YT
>>722638670That's it, you're going in the cage
>>722638996>breaking the bridge has irreversible consequences for a playthroughGod thats fucking annoying.
>>722639284She's talking about both. By the time you meet the Mask Maker, she's been though enough of Pharloom and heard enough from other characters about how shitty the Weavers were. Plus it's not like they were the nicest people to be around in Hallownest either, Herrah specifically said that they'd want Hornet to fulfill their revenge fantasy, and there's a reason why she decided to train with the Hive instead of staying with what remained of either the Weavers or the Pale Court.
>>722629191...People still give money to this guy? He still can just live doing this? After this long? What kind of fans does DSP have?
>>722639504It's reversible if you rollback your save. You don't even need any special tools. The rollback is built into the save menu.
>>722629427I swear to God it almost feels like people forgot they have a literal spear they can chuck to clear out mobs.
>>722639504Breaking the bridge doesn't do anything.
>>722639639it's like kdrama slop for men ig. it's not really interesting enough to even hate watch tho
>>722639680Probably not happening because I did it hours and hours ago. Thats fucking bullshit.
>>722639610Maybe but I do believe he explicitly mentions higher beings which Weavers are not, actually I could be completely misremembering the conversation but the idea was that a higher being wouldn't bother doing a simple courier mission though I doubt the Weavers would either
>>722639504it doesn't do anything??? did you play the game or not
>>722638996The only thing you get from his corpse is Needolin lore.
I am gonna finnish act 2 and call it a day. I still get an ending credit anyway!
>>722637450charged attacks kinda suck, you're usually better off not using them, 100% not worth skipping even one normal attack to charge up instead but even just charging attacks while dodging is pretty bad since it disables your pogo and the animation has enough recovery you could have just attacked twice instead for just as much damage and more silk. I haven't tried the architect meme with flintslate though maybe that's good.Clawline though, yeah you should be using that like every few seconds, basically any situation where you would consider doing a dash attack just use clawline instead, it is strictly better. It's free if it hits an enemy, does the same damage as a needle hit, gives you some iframes, and cancels instantly into movement which cancels into anything else so you can clawline>dash and pass through enemies or clawline>jump>attack and get two hits off almost instantly etc.Even really good players use it way less than they should be.
I'm so sad having finished this game, there's not gonna be a single metroidvania that comes close for years and years I just know it.
>>722640085play nine sols if you hadn't already. played it right after SS and liked it as much
>>722639862Weavers are kind of an in between. They're not pale beings obviously, but the way they were uplifted made them a cut above common sapient bugs. And after GMS was sealed, they set up society in the Citadel so they were the highest caste.
>>722620412>Doesn't know how to jump>Thinks Pure Vessel is bad boss design
>>722619246>made a game with alright simplistic character controller and weak metroidvania elementsCan be better, but sure, character is fun to control>made a sequel that controlls like ass and even worse as metroidvaniaWhyyyyy
>>722619246Bellhart...home
>>722640154I already beat it this year too
>>722620412Wow HK did not age well
>>722620412there's a way to avoid that. don't remember the details though. i did it hitless.
Shards is s dumb mechanic desu, I don't even use tools
>>722640390On-model
>>722619246Between my 2 playthroughs, Groak or whatever the Bilewater boss's name was... he fucks me over way harder than any other boss in the game.
As a Pantheonfag that loves bindings, I'm seriously wondering how TC's going to handle tools because they're basically the replacements for Ghost's magic while having a vastly different acquirement mechanic.And I can't imagine TC would let me run Flint, even if it's limited because of a binding, because it's basically Unbreakable Strength tier in damage
>>722640395Yes it's a stupid mechanic that serves zero purpose other than to make players dump beads or kill enemies they'd otherwise not kill just to get more shards. You literally already have a way to stop spamming with limited usages, shards are an anti-fun mechanic that adds more injury to losing boss fights and when you do the dream fights and don't have them it's so much better. Even though you can just buy shard packs easily it makes you wonder why the fuck bother at all.
assuming silksong dlcs come to exist some time in the near or far future, what would you have them contain? actual likelihood doesn't matter just what you think would be neatnew areas?new quests?new mask shards &/or silk spools?new tools? new venticrest additions?new crests?what would you add?id say more actual quality void content and some kind of real godhome equivalent at least, curious what y'all think
Post 'em, rate 'em, seethe 'em.
>>722622476if you're not using variable bitrate and fine tuning it slowly until you get like 3.9 MB then you're a massive faggot (like these two >>722623021 >>722624453)
>>722640752Post your webms then
>>722640723New areas. Hornet is very very fun to play as so I want a bigger playground. Expecting any hypothetical new areas to tie together loose plot threads will probably get me burned so I won't do that
>>722640741honestly if skull tyrants count as a boss then the fucking rhino beetles should count too
>>722640723>New Areas?Yes. Act 3 suffers from being literal filler trying to pad out boss fights. If the coral tower and the ant kingdom had been structured like Verdania, it would've been infinitely better. >QuestsNot really. There's enough fetch quests as is, though it is inevitable some will be added if there are more characters added a la Grimm Troupe. >More upgradesUnless TC gets a boner for quadruple damage, I think 10 masks and two heals is plenty. >Tools & venticrest?Another blue venticrest would be great. However, I think some blue ones should become orange to balance them out instead. There's 3 good orange trinkets (Dice, belt, anklets and maybe barbed wire) and other 3 you use on certain situations (Farming tool, climbing tool, compass). Nothing here contributes towards a build. >New crests. Give me the Fencer to larp as Lace crest and the Greatnail crest where you use one half of an oversized scissor.
>>722640741I like Wicker Man and Unravelled just fine 2bh.
>>722641087bowser's cock
>>722641130
>>722619246Yeah, for a group of retards
i will not buy or invest my time into silksong.
>>722641323Okay, Anon. I respect your decision. I hope you find a game that's worth your time and money.
>>722640723City of Steel will be a side game locked to steel soul mode. Small map, 3-5 bosses with platforming / gauntlets / secrets inbetween fights. death erases all progress. quitting the game from the pause menu erases all progress. legendary shitstorm from the difficulty crowd
I really like Second Sentinel. He has a really cute design.
>>722640723I would want another needle art like the charge attack that differs between crestsObviously more crests, there's plenty of room for something more weaver related and maybe some wyrm shitWe NEED more needolin mechanics, different default songs, songs that actually have utility beyond meme shit, tools just for them, there's a world of possibility here and it's completely wastedAnd if there's a boss rush thing again it's gotta be structured differently to account for the different approach to difficulty, pantheons will not work for this game
>>722633090Dirtmouth actually feels like a dying town. Like some little place you'd drive through on a road trip in the middle of nowhere. Bone Bottom doesn't feel like anything, it's just a place you return to to get shit done.
>>722641982what would you add specifically to the needolin?
>>722641982>pantheons will not work for this gameExplain your reasoning, please. I don't necessarily disagree, I just don't understand why you think this is.
>beat Cogwork Dancers, get to Trobbio and don't want to beat him>lose interest in the three songs, been in Citadel too long>have the options of Broodmother, Chef Lugoli, whatever is in Bilewater, Courier's Rasher, the Deep Docks dude, Moorwing and the Last JudgeNice to have so many options
>>722642059Playing a specific song near Lace causes her to cum incessantly.
>>722619246in what way
>>722642370You can already make her laugh and cry with the needoling so that's not too far fetched
>>722642036because bone bottom isn't a town or meant to be anything other than a simple pilgrim stop, retarded tranny
>>722642059Little effects like light versions of the shit you'd get from crest binding or other niche things that wouldn't work as a major part of your kit, any standard bard shit would work I think as long as you don't make it too strongJust tie those little effects to the song you have equipped, and activate them once you spend a silk(there are already plenty of one-off songs in the game, so they wouldn't even necessarily need to make more to replace the default one)Whether those are in addition to or alternative to the temporary enemy stun is a balance thing that would need to be tested outThen give it tool slots for slightly more major effects, swapping things like the wisp lantern and flea egg there instead so they aren't just wasted toolsI would also either put in a tool or give it an upgrade that ties it explicitly to the cloak float so you can play while moving in midair(and also access the float at any time like you can when you first get it)>>722642068Game is more punishing and was designed to swing one way or the other faster than hollow knight's more endurance-focused fights- so an endurance mode would be less appropriateAdditionally, Hornet's moveset works really well for basic enemy encounters which is why they were so proud of that and put little gauntlets everywhereSo a more appropriate structure for boss rush content would be either(or both) a bloody palace-esque enemies-and-bosses arena tower, or a kingdom hearts data battle kind of setup where you just have a bunch of upgraded bosses and choose which to fight at any time(unlocking more after you beat enough)
>>722641323>>722641568the good ending
>>722642647>So a more appropriate structure for boss rush content would be either(or both) a bloody palace-esque enemies-and-bosses arena towerI like this idea but at the same time shudder imagining what kind of psychotic, depraved enemy lineups TC would cook up
>>722642598God you people are mentally ill
>>722642803>say something retardedly incorrect>get called out on it>n-n-n-n-n-no uplay the game or shut the fuck up
>>722642790YeahI should have also mentioned that it would necessitate less or weaker bosses to be used for it, because I can totally see TC seeing this idea and concluding "yes, every boss in the game interspersed with a dozen rounds of enemies, and you have to beat all of them in a row to fight great grandmother silk once
>>722642858>someone asks "apples or oranges?">"well Apples are better for you but Oranges have a protective layer."> "TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY"You have severe mental illness
>>722643001you know those words don't really mean the same thing here that they mean elsewhere, right? no one gives a shit here. they might as well be nonesense words appended for effect. people call artists "drawfags." calling you "retarded tranny" is the equivalent of calling you an idiot. or maybe the anon just hit a nerve
I think it's really funny that there's a small subset of /v/ that apparently exists only to express vocal dislike for games they've never played just because they're popular.It's gonna be GOTY anons, give up. And Hornet is a cute
>>722642059NTA but how I think it should work at a base level>doesn't cost silk>doesn't stun enemies unless you have the tool equipped>slowly generates silk if you play it in range of an enemy, 1 silk per line of needolin dialogue they have until you've seen them all>tool makes it stun for a second by locking them into the singing animation when you play it, but costs a silk to start playing, stun lasts longer than the shortest playing duration so you can use it as a mini pause button, enemies are immune for 30 seconds after being stunned so you can't spam itmore ambitiously, make it work like the LoZ ocarina. Hold Y and then press directions to play notes, first song you learn is the Melody of Mindfulness or something, works like above, get silk from enemies as you play it. Then you'd learn other songs throughout the game, when you get the Eiraling fast travel you'd press Y+^^<>V to play the melody their mother uses to call them, Needolin doors need a specific tune you find at the end of a little platforming challenge nearby, put in some more of those Simon Says things except you play the notes back on it, shit like that. Maybe some kind of thing where you start with only two strings and can only play the simplest songs or fragments of them, then find more strings throughout the game until you can play the complex threefold melody and open the top of the citadel.DESU they might have tried something like that during development and it was shitty and annoying, very possible, might be a shit idea, but as is it really feels like a waste of a face button. I died earlier because I killed an enemy and then tried to up-slash another one while standing on its corpse, but because I had the Collect Cloaks quest the game decided I wanted to collect the useless quest item because I pressed Up and it locked me in place, not a huge issue or anything it just feels stupid when there's a whole face button you have to press like 5 times in the whole playthrough.
>>722643239>they might as well be nonesense words appended for effect.A term for that is "schizo babble"
>>722640678>You literally already have a way to stop spamming with limited usagesArchitect breaks this idea because it's whole gimmick is that you can reset your usages mid fight
>>722643258>Hunter is just normal Hornet and doesn't get to wear the crest icon or anythingBullshitAlso for me it's the beast and shaman cloaks, and the beast and reaper needle
>>722642598Ok? Dude asked Bone Bottom or Dirtmouth? The fuck are you so gay about?
https://youtu.be/sN2T1COuBRohttps://youtu.be/e6OImeZ2WGkScuttle brace breaks the game
>>722637793Cultural momentum.It's popular already and the devs have goodwill from the first game, so journo's speaking out of line will be ostracized.
>>722620412I just jumped and pogo'd him every attack except the multi direction nails. Circles was healing time. Tentacles was free pogo time.
I wonder if they'll have a dlc that's just adding a bunch of dream bosses like hollow knight had
>>722644232The only thing we can be sure is the eventual boss rush and the steel ass-assins
>>722623021You got very lucky at 1:36 that she chose to 3 hit instead of jump up.
>>722643258Ain't no way it gets GOTY in any reward show. That slot is exclusively for popular AAA slop.
>>722637450I don't want to take damage because the enemy/boss attacked while I used itI don't use tools because after my 10th death I won't be able to use tools anywayI need silk for healingThere are better tools than quick chargeSilksong is a hard game because every boss either spams adds, spams multiple things to dodge at once, or is programmed in a way that the boss will hit you if you don't dodge in a very specific way. Jumped over the boss and used a pogo? Well now you're in the air and it just jumped into you. Because there's no Shade Cloak, every single boss has turned into "Well you got your 2 hits in, now back away and watch my attacks". Pretty obvious Team Cherry hated the way some people fought bosses in HK since they removed many options for dealing with bosses and punish if you don't do a boss their intended way.
>heard about flea festival in act 3 >assume act 3 would be brighter and happy >its downright horrifying At least the dlc would be happier right?
>>722628294I 100% in 60 hours desu, but I'm kind a savant when it comes to gaming...yeah, I'm just that fucking good. Not doing any challenge mode shit cause I'm not a tranny though desu ne
>>722645708Honestly, the dreary atmosphere of Act 3 makes the Festival of the Flea that much more enjoyable and heartwarming. The music especially sells it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpnCmEsRJzIOn that note I have no fucking clue why the Festival of the Flea theme, as well as the minigame theme (which is fucking awesome because it uses Hornet's motif in an interesting way) aren't on the OST.
So where's the music that plays during giant flea? Half of the OST is missing in the official vid they posted
I wish fleas were real...
>just one shot Trobbio, got hit only twiceI think I'm gitting gud.
>manage to get a heal off during Lost Lace>fall for her anti-air feint immediately afterEVERY TIMESHE DOES IT AFTER A HEAL EVERY TIME AND I FALL FOR IT EVERY SINGLE TIME
Playing the game on Steel Soul and I like the game even more
>>722647905Speaking of lost lace did anyone else keep instinctively jumping when she does diagonal downward slash since lace 2 follows it up with a lunge, which lost lace doesn't do?
>>722648078what
>>722648250I don't know what the attack is exactly but there's a specific follow up that lace 2 does that LL doesn't and it drove me crazy
Something I noticed with Lost Lace (and perhaps the other fights as well) is that getting hit ends her attack early and significantly reduces the punishment window meaning she starts up another attack a lot sooner meaning you can easily snowball into a bunch of mistakes back to back.
>>722647905I hate Team Cherry for that shit, and how some bosses are programmed to track when you walk away from them, and then jump in front of you so you just walk into them.
Team cherry really cooked with those shakra x lace moments
ok what the fuck is lost lace phase 3
Sharpdart feels really bad, was it really necessary to have a lengthy windup?
I'm glad the trailer theme made it into the game but I'm also disappointed that nothing even comes close to it and I spent 6 years expecting an entire OST to be that good. Aside from like 2 Citadel songs I can't even remember any of the music. Nothing like any of the boss themes from HK.
>>722619246It was good enough to the point where I was afraid Hollow Knight would feel like shit in comparison but it turns out Hollow Knight gameplay is still fantastic on replay and the original game as a whole might still be better
what other games have the same level of atmosphere and exploration? so far its the only game where im clocking 80 plus hours in this year.
>>722649998I wouldn't say it's the same, but something like Blue Prince would probably also clock you in that many hours.
>>722649840The ost is much better listening on youtube than in-game, the mixing doesn't do it justice
i liked the crust king fight, i just beat him. but i looked at the older screenshots of the king and the room was much more detailed and looked like a palace. maybe they'll bring that back in a future dlc?
>>722640741>>722641078what's so bad about unravelled?
>>722619434
>>722649998For all the shit Elden Ring deservedly gets, it is fun to explore for the first time, until you realize the world is empty and the already sporadic side content is mostly copypasted areas with copypasted enemies.It still has kino moments like finding Siofra, especially if you find it in your own exploration instead of being directed there by Ranni's quest. I went there super underlevelled on my first playthrough to the point I got 1-shot by the snipers. I played that section like a stealth game and it was the most fun I've had with the game.
>>722650979Elden Ring expanding the map as you explore was so fucking good. I got to the "edge" of the map and it was Liurnia and holy shit it just kept going.
>>722650384it's just a really shitty fighthe has literally two attacks, one of them is spitting projectiles at random angles and the other is suddenly charging across the room, both of which make attacking him from the front annoying, he doesn't take damage from pogos so you have to jump over and hit him in the back, but his hitbox is just slightly taller and wider than is easy to clear with a single normal jump so it's a huge pain until you get the double jump, and his contact box is wider at the base so you can jump over him, try to swing backwards to do a little damage and then land on his coattails and lose two masksAside from that the fight is a few boring groups of ads, and a time wasting spears phase where you don't even have to move to avoid them half the time. Also if you stun him he just instantly goes underground so you actually usually lose out on damage when it happens.It's a fight where the fast way to win is just stand in his face mashing attack and hoping the projectiles miss, and the "clean" way to win is getting one hit every 20 seconds until the last phase when things get a little interesting and he starts doing the spears and other stuff at the same time, but the spears attack where he pops up is also the biggest real damage window he has so once he starts doing that more often he usually just dies, and you spend 80% of the fight frustrated picking away for single hits and then when it starts to get almost fun it just ends. Or you just mash in his face and don't even really try to avoid damage and it will work 60% of the time. 90% of the time with Wanderer.Or just spam tacks.
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I really don't feel like doing the Rasher delivery. How much does that pin upgrade matter?
>>722651494the double jump wings made it easier to blitz blasted steps and the scales in the citadel. im unsure of the damage increase.
Yes. I beat the game on friday and I still don't feel like playing another game. I watched some anime today. I am literally feeling post-silksong depression.
>>722651494they're all +4 damage
>>722619539Hornet looks stressed.
>>722619539Yet to hear a good explanation why we got a haunted square bedsheet in this location instead of a creepy, evil surgeon bug who wields a scalpel.
>>722651494it's easier than you'd expect. I got hit 3 times and still made it.
>>722651759he's a mass of possessed silk, the dregs of all the experiments and the souls of bugs tortured to death trying to find a way to grant eternal lifeand he throws scalpels at youit's a fine idea, the fight is just ass
Looks really gay
>>722651129I just used Witch and since he spawns adds to let me fully refill my silk between phases I can hit like 5 heal bombs on him any time he's coming up which is basically 60% of his HP even without the last nail upgrade or double mirror. That last 40% is super easy to tack on since you skip to phase 2 so quickly with the 2 heal bombs you enter the fight with and he has the attack in phase 2 where you can just wail on him>>722651494You get diminishing returns since they're all additive of the same amount, and most bosses have damage scaling based on your upgrade level to further diminish the value. Goes hard on smaller enemies though
>got filtered yesterday for hours>slept>next morning got 29 on the first try and then 44 on the second try"Win Your Videogames With This Simple Trick"It's sleeping. The trick is sleeping.
>>722651919>He thinks 44 is enough
>>722651919>he doesn't know
>>722652141>>722652201I'm not gonna bother with Seth.
>>722619246I got 100% after 92 hours and 17minutesHoly fuck it took forever to find everything. Literally how can anyone get 100% in 40 hours I had to go around every room wacking walls and spirit soar in random places to find shitBest boss: Tormented TrobbioWorst boss: Savage Beastfly reduxMost plappable boss: KarmelitaShout out to Shaman crest for carrying my ass through Lost Lace I actually felt like cheated when I did so much damage
>>722651919These were my first winning runs. I still don't know who Seth is.
>>722628592I started 2 at 20 hours and that was definitely too long because I meandered and backtracked a lot. I think I got pretty much everything in act 1.
I don't think we have a compiled list of hidden places inaccessible only via Silk Soar yet. Less along the lines of Shaman Crest or Voltnest, more along the lines of Styx' attic.
>>722647008>one shot the high halls gauntlet as wellGuys, I'm doing it, I'm silking the song.
>>722652801I honestly kinda hate Silk Soar as a mechanic. It opens up way too many options for secret areas.>more along the lines of Styx' attic.There's the path above the Cradle leading to the surface.
>a 2d platformer>in 2025no
>>722647982Steal Soul 100% was a reasonable achievement in HK because that game is piss easy and you can avoid all the even remotely challenging stuff on a 100% run.Steal Soul 100% in this game is autism tier.
>>722653471>Steal
>>722653543I just woke up.
>>722653471>Steal Soul 100% in this game is autism tier.Most people just back their saves up and/or alt+f4 whenever they get one hit away from death, effectively eliminating all the risk and challenge.
might not do steel soul but i would like to do a purple quill run
>>722654070Holy peak
>>722653094retard
>>722621862I want to have sex with her
does anything interesting happen if you clear all void corpses around the map
Is Pinstress just a retard?
I just unlocked the Clawline and I hate it.Any tips on using it?
>>722654779Use it to close the distance when enemies are open for more hits.
>>722619246>Started Act 3>Turns out there's a ton of content I just cannot ever get nowFuck this
>>722654779>uses silkWhy?
>>722654871there's only small stuff unavailable in act 3, you can still get most of everything but it's just different from how it would have been in act 2
>>722654779Mt Fay is the clawline tutorial area.Also, once you really get the hang of it you'll love it and wonder how you survived without it. It's also amazing for combat.
>>722654779Using it followed by a reaper pogo often launches you up to safety, letting you get some easy damage in
>>722654779You'll get better at it. You got this, champ!The real clawline tutorial is beating GMS cursed.
>>722654895It's the worst. I never use the Violin either because of this and the fact that it's too slow.Dream Nail was much better.
>>722654895It refunds the silk if it's directed at an enemy. What I can't forgive though, is that apparently the instances of it giving 2 silk instead of 1 was actually a bug and it was remoevd. Even charged attacks give you silk now, but this one move can only break even AND potentially waste silk if you miss.
The clawline is making the game unplayable for me, I hate this.Is it mandatory?
>>722655303Clawline is already OP as it is you dumbass. It needs to have a little cost at least.
>>722655314You only hate it because you don't understand it intuitively yet. I'm being serious. I hated it as well when I got it and couldn't get my head round it.Go to Mount Fay and do that area. You will only be able to do so by coming to terms with the clawline. Once you've done it, you'll fully understand it and it will enhance your experience.
>>722655445>Go to Mount Fay and do that area.I've done it, I still hate it and don't want to play anymore.Is this mandatory for the rest of the game? If yes, I'm dropping it here.
>>722655426>Hit for the equivalent of 1 nail swing at the coist of your healing/skill resourceIt's really not as good as you think
>>722655486Yes it's mandatoryYou don't have to use it since it overlaps with the dash for the most part, but you need to stop playing either way because you're retarded and will just dilute discussions of the game in the future, so it is mandatory
>>722655571You're just shit. It's an incredibly safe gap-closer that basically eliminates the need for proper positioning.
>>722655652>Yes it's mandatory>You don't have to use itI don't think you know what "mandatory" means.
>>722655486>I've done it, I still hate it and don't want to play anymore.No you haven't. If you had, you wouldn't feel that way. You're throwing a tantrum. Do what I have advised you to do.
>>722655740>No you haven't. If you had, you wouldn't feel that way.You are wrong.
>>722655697It's mandatory because you need to leave, you fucking retard
>>722655786Thanks for confirming you don't know what the word "mandatory" means.
>>722655776You've clearly just got clawline and are struggling to use it. When presented with the solution (doing Mt Fay, an entirely separate region that takes hours) your knee jerk reply is to say "uh uh uh I've already done it" because you're entrenched in your opinion of not liking clawline. Take the medicine, do Mt Fay, it will help you learn the tool.
>>722655831It is mandatory that you leaveIt being mandatory was set as the condition for you leavingTherefore for you to leave, it must be mandatoryAnd so it isGo, and stay go, you illiterate nigger
>>722655967I've already done Mt. Fay. I do not like the Clawline.Are you autistic or something?
>>722656005>"I-i-it's mandatory because I say so!!"Thnaks for confirming, again, that you don't know what the word means.
>>722656074"mandatory" means "required"And you have to leave, that is entirely required
>>722656126No I don't. You just want me to.
>>722656146It is necessary to preserve any hope of quality for these threads, as explained
>>722656207Doesn't mean it's mandatory tho.
>>722656029It's obvious that you haven't because the area is completely dependent on having intuitive use of the clawline mastered. You wouldn't know this, having not done the area as you've only just got the clawline.
>>722656285So you are autistic, thanks for confirming this fact.I beat Mt. Fey. I still don't like the Clawline.Why does this upset your autistic-ass so much?
>>722656223"Mandatory" means "necessary"
>>722656360Everyone felt like that when they got it. It feels janky and it takes a while to get the hang of. All I'm saying is there's light at the end of the tunnel, you'll feel a lot better once you get to the mountain and do it so don't worry.
>>722656445I've already beaten Mt. Fey.Why are you pretending that I haven't?
>>722623806you will never experience beating the game either
>>722656445anon he has not said once why he hates it, it's the dishonest bait
>>722656519Nobody asked me why I don't like it yet.
/v/ is such an incredible board
I love Tormented Trobbio but he's definitely giving me epilepsy
>>722656360I agree. I use the clawline only when it's required for platforming and ignore it the rest of the time. I don't like things that slowly deplete my silk.
>>722649998The atmosphere isn't as solid (although it has its moments) but I quite enjoyed exploring the map in Tunic
>>722658124>>722656360You guys really should do the cursed GMS fight.
>>722658124Yeah I wish it didn't use silk either, that and the violin. Seems like a mistake.
>>722650057Blue Prince definitely got me with most hours played this year. The atmosphere and sense of exploration is also top notch. However, the strategic aspects to mitigate randomness rubbed a lot of people off.>>722658313based Tunic enjoyer>>722649998Animal Well's map is filled to the brim with secrets as well.
>>722658124>>722658387How are you faggots so fucking shit at the game? Clawline is fucking OP.
>>722658124>>722658387take the Weavelight pill
>>722658582>WeavelightWhat's that?
>>722658603blue tool that significantly speeds up how fast you regenerate silk and also acts like an extra silk heart
>>722620412Roll slop.
Thinking the clawline is bad and clunky and unwieldy and useless when you get it is such an experience. Only when you learn to use it you realize how fucking OP the thing is.
>>722659140Weavenest bellow Bone Bottom
>>722659140>bro didn't exploreskill issue, really
>>722658916I can't relate. I fell in love with it the moment I got it. It literally completes Hornet's moveset and movement. The moment I unlocked Clawline I thought "yup, this is it, this is what Hornet's been missing" and suddenly the game felt 100 times better to play.
>>722659189Might look into it, but I'm much more likely to install the mod that stops hookshot and violin from using silk.Thanks.
>>722659339>violin from using silk.yeah why it uses silk? The hook is busted as fuck so it needs some restriction but why needolin?
>>722659560>Needolin>takes silk>NPC's take forever to sing literally nothing at you>Dream Nail>Gains soul on hit>Text boxes are instantThe needolin is just a shitty version of the Dream Nail.
>>722629908I bought nine sols during sale a few days ago and I'm so glad it doesn't have contact damage. It feels so good after silksong.but I enjoyed silksong as well.
Just beat Lace 2 for the first time. I've been slow finishing this game.It's funny, she kicked my ass the first couple attempts, but as soon as I learned her entire kit is invalidated by just jumping and pogoing on her head, I promptly humiliated her thoroughly.Good boss. Cleaning up the map, then advancing to Act 3. Wish me luck, bros
>>722659691What's worse is that you have to spend like 5 points of silk to feel confident you've gotten all the dialogue because they are random.
>>722660259You can go up the Cradle and fight the boss. Getting an ending just resets you to before beating the boss like in HK.
>>722660259I'd recommend getting the normal ending first otherwise you can miss out on a cool cutscene
>>722619246Yes, but I was both surprised and disappointed by the lack of intro screens for important bosses
>>722660581Only the Radiance and NKG had that and GMS kinda had it too, except the screen didn't go blank.
>>722660320I just don't talk to NPC's in this game with the needolin.It's such a huge waste of time compared to the first game, I just don't care anymore.
Where do I get double jump in this game?I'm not having much fun and I just want it over as soon as possible.
this dude is fucking weird
>>722661219Then just stop playing, faggot. You don't HAVE TO finish it. You get the double jump roughly halfway through the game. You can get an ending without it if you really want to.
>>722661601So I'm very close to the double jump.Where do I find it exactly?
>>722661814Top of Mt Fay
>>722661937Thanks.
Since the thread's nearly over, I just want to say if you didn't have Garmond help you in the High halls gauntlet you didn't beat the game.https://litter.catbox.moe/ttjre1x3338pf7k3.webm
>>722662240>if you didn't have the game clear a challenge for you you didn't beat the game
>>722640982
>>722662348Yes, actively missing out on content involving the best character in the game means you played an inferior version of the game.
>>722661937Got the double jump now, thanks.It was closer than I thought.
>didnt want to get spoiled from early silksong threads>finally done>no more comfy threads
https://youtube.com/shorts/OZRVonVrVuUIs NL right /v/?
>>722663473Don't watch shorts, sorry.
>>722663473Nah. Twelfth Architect, Hornet & Lace.
>>722639504Are you retarded
>>722663473God, this faggot has become so insufferable. I miss early 2010s NL.
>>722641371Holy fucking cringe.
>>722663339Early threads were literally just people asking for advice lil bro
>>722664309And endless seething about muh difficulty.
>>722620412is that the guy from the 2nd game as a boss in the 1st? I haven't played either of those games
>>722664407Now that's dedicated to the "Artificial vs Real Difficulty" threads. Funny enough there's a comfy thread now.
>>722619246Is no one else curious why OP is using a beta screen shot?
>>722619246It’s a very brown-yellow game.
You guys do temper yourself in flames like steel ought to, right?
>>722664732I only looked at the thumbnail until now.
>>722664732He just grabbed one of the first results when you look up Bellhart on Google Images
>>722641746it's a girlall robots, AIs, mono-sex species etc. are girls unless there's evidence to the contrarywhy? robot sex.
>>722664939kek you're right
>>722662240he didn't even do jack shit because 3/4 of the thing is flying enemies and allies don't draw aggroI still love the guy, best bug.
>>722663339your wish was granted, but at what cost >>722663727
>>722619246The FOV (field of view) feels wrong in that game, like in so many modern games. It's too zoomed out. You need an artistic IQ of over 130 to understand that. 16:9 is a shit aspect ratio many developers don't know how to properly deal with.
>>722620412>Good RNGNigger that's one of the boss that you can consistently do damageless with little issue once you learn the fight
