We had a comfy Controller Thread earlier that was actually useful and tolerable for /v/ standards. Let’s have another one!>news New controllers from the likes of Flydigi and Gulikit are coming out very soon, such as picrel. Notice the stick placement>some recommendationsGamesir Cyclone 2Bigbigwon Blitz 2 TMR edition (notes: digital triggers, best in class gyro)Flydigi Vader 4 Pro if you don’t want to wait for the 5 Pro, which you probably should
Kind of fucked that buying four back buttons and two trigger stops to add to a Dualsense costs as much or more than some chink controllers that have that and more out of the box
Are TMR sticks worth it for casual shit like action games and old games? I don't play fighting games or shooters. I might get a Nova 2 Lite or Cyclone 2.
>>722712265the Data Frog PS4 pad is a cromulent DS4 replacement with USB C charging and apparent PS3 support too which I've yet to check outshame nobody does a decent 360 or OG Xbox pad replacement, my 360 pads are all stick drifty and I'd love a functional controller S over the duke i'm forced to use
>>722713476i haven't used a playstation since i was 14 maybeps needs an xl sized controller
>Sega D-pad>No 6-buttons on the front Useless
>>722713236Arguably hall/TMR are more worth it for casual shit, where the only quality that matters is whether or not the stick drifts.Some fps sweatlords swear by alps potentiometer linearity, which is also why BigBigWon Blitz 2 and the upcoming GameSir Gumiho have Alps versions. Some hall and TMR sticks measure close enough that even then I don't think it really matters, and sensitivity curves can iron out the rough spots if needed.
>>722713476I have two of those. Man, it's suck a fucking shitity controller in every conceivable way.
>>722714081explain how
>>722713476The real question is if it has PSTV support.
>>722715550Haven't tested it yet on mine but there's no reason it shouldn't
Best controller I ever had.
I'm just going to say it - out of the dozens of controllers I have had in my entire life none of them drifted and still don't to this day. All I care about is high quality potentiometer, micro switch buttons and a Dpad that is extremely accurate for technical fighting game movement and or advanced combos. You can fuck off with your 15 trillion giga flops polling rates and swappable Chinese plastic pieces with 10 back plate buttons.
>>722715294The analogs are stiff and aren't precise at all. I plugged it on my PS3 and got the feeling that I only could go in a few directions.
PLEASE BE CHEYGGING AUT FLYDEEGEE WADER FARRR SARRR
>>722715605I hope so. I've never had a 3rd party controller work on PSTV.
>>722715294>>722716598 I sent before finishing: compatibility is awful because it's recognized as a Xbox controller and the build is really "MVP"-like, just the bare minimum. The analog are the worst offender, though. You can't play anything that requires precision. Driving in GTA is choosing between going forward, a bit to the left and right and then full left and right.
saar.... buy.... 8bitdo pro 3... Love this thing, waited ages for a new Pro model or even a symmetrical Ultimate and got exactly it, shame it came at expense of easily removable batteries
>>7227137616 button is retarded for anything that isnt genesis/saturn. The only thing more retarded is you
Any of these chink controllers compatible with PS5? My ds5 is still working nicely after 4 years but I want to know my options before the sticks shit themselves.
WHY DON'T CONTROLLERS HAVE PRESSURE SENSATIVE BUTTONS ANYMORE?!?!?!?!?!FUCKING BRING IT BACK FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>722717331Name three games that actually fucking use them that aren't Metal Gear Solid 3 or Gran Turismo. I dare you. And no googling.
>>722717424Silent Hill 2.
>brand is named GameSir>immediately lose all desire to purchase it
>>722717424super mario sunshinemeleeTurns out if you develop the capability the games will come
>>722717424PS2 GTA games, you could drive slower and hold it steady instead of going full speed.
>>722717424All 3 PS2 Ace Combat games
>>722712265post your dream controller, and i mean one you wish existed
Should I get the gamesir cyclone 2 or g7 pro?
Would you?
>>722718196Is it just Goldeneye that supports dual sticks?Do you have to plug that into 2 ports? I'm assuming so.
>>722717424Every Jak game, every Ratchet OG, all 4 Sly games, Onimusha 2 and Okami.
>>722718196wish more controllers had 6 face buttons, more buttons, more gameplay options, dedicated yes/no buttons open ups space for other actions
>>722712265I'm kinda in the market for a new controller, but I feel I'm basically fucked.>Want a controller with back buttons for Push-to-Talk>Want a controller with internal battery.>Decent build quality.>Doesn't have GAMESIR written on the front of it (It sounds Indian.)And it's like my only option is to fork over like 120 bucks.
Good morning saar
My trusty Xbox 360 Wireless Controller (complete with the official Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for PC) is starting to disintegrate after twenty years of faithful service. The thumbsticks are "shedding" plastic flakes as I use it, and I fear it is not long for this world.Notably, the reason I've been able to use it for twenty years is because is takes AA batteries. My Wavebird also still works after twenty-four years for the same reason. Meanwhile, my PS3 controllers, with their built-in batteries, are stone-cold dead.So, I'm looking for a replacement controller to use with a PC, but it's gotta take AA batteries.What the hell are my options for AA-battery controllers, aside from the Xbox Series X controller?
>>722718813you're gonna have to get over the 4chan brain rot
>>7227190548bitdo Pro 2Also just buy new stick caps and open up the controller lol
hehe tt max
>>722718073OP's controller with a Dualsense touchpad+haptics, onboard kbm binds, and either dinput or a suitable workaround for doing everything through xinput
>>722715618+1 currently my favorite
>>722715828Cool story, 2 of my n64, and 3 of my og xbox controllers drift/have problems
>>722717742You know you can assign throttle/accelerator either on right stick or right analog trigger, right?
>>722719297Kp70 might have haptic feedback. Its very similar if not outright better than apex 5. Mine arrives hopefully this week
>>722713761Back paddles are objectively more versatile than more front buttons, 4 is the perfect amount and is easier to cycle through.
TT Max is the one to getIIRC TT Pro wont have the extra swappable d-pad stuff. Unless it's another case of elves 2 v elves 2 pro latency issues (unlikely), then TT Max is the one you really wanna get.
>>722713761The perfect controller has a circular d-pad, six face buttons, asymmetrical sticks, and two rear buttons.
>>722717424Ridge Racer V
>>7227205596 facebuttons is a meme, shoulders are better
3/4 of these will be arriving this week, hopefully. I have high expectations for kp70
Are these chinese controllers any good or are we being invaded by shills?
>>722721414I personally don't have any experience with series s/x controllers, nor dualsense and very little of ps4 controller. I'm mostly comparing to switch pro 1 and 2 controllers and something like cyclone 2 or v4p btfos switch pro 2 controller. then you have controllers like pro 3 and tarantula pro that have entirely different stick configuration than switch does
>>722720357iirc for the extra $20 for TT Max you get>short/normal/tall swappable stick caps>4-way d-pad toggle (turns off diagonals, essentially)>PC-optimized gyro (no word on what this is, I'd guess xinput mouse gyro)Both have the swappable Saturn/dish d-pads.
>>722717424Bomberman Kart uses them, but you have to press so damn hard on them that it's inclusion hurts the game
>>722721414every single one has at least one major flaw that makes it shit
>>722719564Then you better order the chinkslop mate. Line up.
>>722717331retrofighters has got a playstation one in the works with them.looks like it'll be suitable for ps1-3 emulation.
>>722716765Had to return mine. Went into a USB reset loop when plugged in.
>>722722243You don't need to worry, I'm never using first party controllers again.
>>722719054my ps3 controller from over a decade ago still works and the battery is easily replaceable but i never use it because it feels like a cheap toymeanwhile, the xbox 360 controller has way better build quality and the shape is honestly better than the one from the newer series X controller, i prefer the triggers too. and its surprising how long the sticks last considering theyre not hall effect, compared to newer 1st party shit. theyre honestly way higher quality than they have any right to be
>>722712265How are the D pads on the cyclone 2?I'm hearing conflicting impressions. Some say the travel is further than normal. Others say it's precise, especially at diagonals.What are good reasons to spend over $50 on premium pads? The turn-over rate of premium models seems high.
So what's the solution nowadays to use direct input garbage like the Nintendo pro controller on windows?I used ds4w but I think its not updated anymore
wait is dinput the bad one? I thought xinput was.Someone remind me about which I should be using.
>>722722787xinput is better but some older games might not support ithttps://www.hlplanet.com/xinput-vs-dinput-vs-switch-mode/
>>722721414yeah dude everybody talks about the chinese controllers mogging first-party console manufacturers' offerings these days because they're all paid marketershow do they pay the marketers? well with the controller money of course
>>722722787dinput supports more buttons which is useful for mapping extra actions to back paddles etc. on controllers that have those, as well as gyro. but most games dont support dinput out of the box. you can use steam input to mask it and customize your bindings though
>>722722830Oh okay so like d input for like emulators/retroarch and xinput for the rest I get you
>>722722830So what is dualsense in this trifecta?
apex 5 doesn't have d-input, I think kp70 doesit's another w for beitong
>>722723064yeah something like that
>>7227214148bitdo pro 3 feels good, but the software and firmware are pure shit. I had to return mine because it literally does not work wired in xinput or dinput mode. Also the key remapper never seemed to do anything. Dualsense still seems to just work despite all the bullshit overpriced and shitty alps joysticks.
>>722712265>coming out very soonBut I need it now.
>>722719054>What the hell are my options for AA-battery
Does the switch 2 pro controller just werk on PC yet or do I still need a tool that only inconsistently works
>>722721414No idea but my OFFICIAL SERIES S/X CONTROLLERS didn't even last a year before drifting or having button issuesEven if most chinkslop pads didnt have hall effect, id still buy them out of spite
>>722723258>I had to return mine because it literally does not work wired in xinput or dinput mode
>>722723258it's okay, you're going to buy the new tarantula model when it's out, it's going to be good trust me bro
>>722723887me, I'm probably going to wait until wireless model. so probably neither of picrel
Used the Apex 4 for just a few months but the fucking thing was just shitting out, missing button clicks wireless, randomly disconnecting when wired, crazy latency. I just got this thing. Retarded name as usual for chinkshit, the BIGBIGWON BLITZ2 TMR. holy fuck that sounds retarded. the shape is just slightly awkward but I'm getting used to it, if you like the Switch pro controller shape then this will feel familiar. Feels slightly plasticy but not too bad, but every button click feels really nice and it's all mechanical. The latency is really low even while wireless, so I can finally play wireless again thank God. Grinded some MH Wilds Omega all day today and had 0 issues. I really like that the R2 buttons are just regular buttons and not some retarded trigger, who the fuck plays racing games anyway? Never missing my longsword sheath again. Anyway we'll see how it turns out, chinkshit has a way of self destructing in a few months. The Apex 4 was so disappointing because the controller felt really nice but the lag was so fucking bad, the extra features were pretty much all useless, and limiting the trigger button range felt like shit which was one of the reasons I bought it.
>>722724162>bigbig won
I just bought another series X controllerit just werks and the battery life on eneloops is nintendo pro tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Up8AAOM-t0
Anyone know a good usb adapter for ps1 controllers?
>>722723887Where’s the magical gear that changes the face button labels
>>722724736dead and buried along with everything else about the original tarantula pro
>>722724736>>722724775It's probably coming for the Tarantula Pro 2, or whatever the halo product is gonna be called. These are some "sweaty" wired versions of tarantula, but they're not the "comfy" version, not the version I would personally buy.
>>722724906>these wired versions are not the ones I would buyI meant to say
>>722724906I'd be sold if it had playstation labels, its got the right shape to be used for playstation emulation.
The real tragedy is that, there aren't more controllers that can do this. We need more this module switching stuff, without having to remove modules. Imagine if you had one that could switch between assymetric/symmetric stick layouts
any particularly good nes style controllers for retro emulation? Perhaps with shoulders to get a good gba layout in there?
>>722725036on that specific controller the closest you'll get is setting the ABXY labeling to your preferred rotation scheme (nintendo BAYX or xbox ABXY) and changing its color to playstation labeling, pink/red-orange/green/blue
>>722725160unironically the NSO NES or famicom controllers are the best you'll do for that, but that's a fairly expensive way of doing it (use a joycon wrist strap for L/R button access on game boy)
>>722722648>I'm hearing conflicting impressions. Some say the travel is further than normal. Others say it's precise, especially at diagonals.These aren't conflicting, they're both true. The d-pad has some weird suspension that gives it a ton of pre-travel, but it doesn't spit accidental diagonals. D-pad shape isn't the best for intentional ones, but was good enough with a firm press and/or a circle add-on for it to become my shmup pad prior to the Elves 2.
>>722725320Yes, cyclone 2 and pro 3 are good at rejecting accidental diagonals, but they're also good (sadly) at rejecting the intentional ones. Something like v4p is gonna be better for fighting games, since I think it has very similar rejection, but v4p problem otoh is that it's too tight d-pad for general gaming/top view games or anything where you wanna play with d-pad instead of stick. Basically what I'm trying say saturn d-pad uber alles
I had V4p for weeks and always thought the d-pad was too tight for me. Until I tried killer instinct on n64 emulator in NSO, and I feel like I could do some combos perfectly with it, which leads me to believe that yes it's good controller for fighting games, but not for me because I don't play fighting games lol
I know I'm bringing old shit up, but did this anon in question have some early version of Tar Pro where there's no metal on the stick? I have some metal thing on my sticks so does that mean I don't have to worry about this ? Was kinda scary to see this post cause I started playing same game only couple weeks prior to seeing this post
I like the vader 4, but the charge stand is sold separately and is apparently bad.
>>722723670This is why I'm reluctant on getting chinese pads over $50, there's always some overlooked flaw. You have to hope that it isn't a mechanical issue and that a future firmware might fix it.
>>722723887I dont like the extra face button placement on those, its too hard to reach for me.
>>722726589the metal ring is anti-friction, keeps your sticks from grinding down the stick wells in your controller by not grinding plastic-against-plastic, ritzier controllers in general will have that these days, i know 8bitdo pro 3 does
>>722726721>This is why I'm reluctant on getting chinese pads over $50exactly. the xbox and ps controllers are way too expensive for something that breaks in only 1 year
>>722726764So if I have a metal on my stick, I don't have to worry? sorry just double checking
>AA batteries>bluetooth and 2.4ghz>hall effect sticks>back paddles that can be remapped to anything like the steam deckthis is all I require, and yet it does not exist
>>7227272738bitdo pro 2 might be close I think, but doesn't have backpaddles
>>722727447Pro 2 has two back buttons, but does not have 2.4ghz
what's the point of buying turd party when sony already solved controllers?
>>722727636could pro 2 work with the 8bitdo adapter v1 or v2 ? it's a usb dongle so I think it should be 2.4ghz
I mean I guess if you need to buy it there should be no reason to buy v1 anymore, assuming v2 supports same as v1 + more
>>722727880Apparently one of the adapters does work with the Pro 2 but I would assume that'd still be connecting to it over Bluetooth, the Pro 2 doesn't have a 2.4ghz transmitter in it.
>>722727636just use pro 3 lol
>>722727845Gyro would be cool on Playstation if Sony fucking did anything with it, Nintendo keeps getting away with it because Nintendo actually fucking does stuff with it
>>722727982This. Get the orange pro 3
I’ve had the 8bitdo ultimate 1 for 1-2 years and I’ve been thinking about getting another controller with things like 4 back buttons extra bumper buttons and the whole mouse trigger to normal trigger switch.I’ve been thinking about the Vader 5 pro or maybe the Vader 4 pro are there any other good alternatives?
>>722727845unergonomic pos
>the controller that never was>never hadWe now pay respects to PXN P5 8K, a controller that never quite was, and never will be. Not one anon has reportedly touched this or vagina.F
quick question for asymmetric sticks, how do you click on the dpad while your thumbs on the left analog? do you let go of the stick or something?
>>722729567>do you let go of the stick or something?yes
>>722717424THE BOUNCEERRR
>>722712265When the fuck is this actually coming out they said October but still nothing
Opinions on powerA fusion pro 4? Any experience? Can't find much.
pro 2.4g is exactly all i need as my main battle station controller, just wish i could get an extra dongle for my tv dock and then i would never need to tough my gulikit ever againi also wish i could have the back paddles available without the proprietary software but fuck it, ive gone my whole gaming life never needing extra back buttons and that stays the same now>>722727845dualshits seems nice until it starts drifting, then your gonna fork over another 90 bucks for a brand new one because both us and sony know ponies like your wont bother learning to fix your own shit
>>722729778Maybe in two weeks
>>722730016had my DualSense controller for 2 years so far, still no driftogood turd parties cost around the same as a DualSenseit's a good controller sir
Can you recommend any with a symmetrical layout that aren't from 8BitDo?I have a specific use case that benefits from a symmetrical layout (rhythm games)
>>722712785First party controllers are a scam to obscure some more of the console's costs and the premium options for them are just even bigger scams.All of these controllers have been interoperable since 7th gen, there's no reason to keep pushing out new ones other than moneygrubbing.>>722727845The DS4 is better, this is just a pointless waste. They should have put all of their R&D into their VR controller instead and made that the default (more ergonomic if designed well, more capable, negligible price difference), but I suspect they just wasted money on interdepartment dickwaving instead.>>722722787>>722722830Xinput is the one that is shit, but ports usually drop the ball on actually supporting the Dinput API, so you'll need something to translate like Steaminput.
>>722729830bump
>>722731396Elves 2TT MaxUpcoming Tarantulas from gamesir
Elves 2 needs to be non-pro, the pro version has latency issues
>>722713476>360 and OG XboxIt's because of the proprietary radio techThere are some good alternative wired replacements, but you're better off opening the controllers and installing after market sticks.
>>722712265Is there anything with metal dome d-pads that isn't the fucking Xbox Series controller?
>>722717424Mr. MosquitoI don't actually know
>>722729830I have the wireless version of it. It's nice basic controller to play vidya on. Like it more than my gameSaar G7 SE because all GameSir controllers are fucking small (which the handlets never tell you).
>>722715618+1 the mechanical switches help with my RSI. Could use more back buttons, tho
>>722717617The chinese phenomenon currently is that you'll have products called "shitdick evil cum controller" and it will be actually decent
I got an 8bitdo Pro3 about 6 weeks ago to replace my wired 360 controller. I've got about 100hrs on it because of Silksong and Hades.The pros:>Dpad is great and reliable>feels solid and comfortable to use for hours>2.4ghz with relatively quick connection to my PC>rumble is so much better than 360 it's worth mentioning>Switching from dpad/left stick feels fine because of the placementCons>Facebuttons are loud as hell>square/X button issue. If I fully press down its bottom portion it doesn't register the input. This doesn't happen with other axis or buttons.>extra buttons are usually unsupported. I've defaulted back paddles as L3/R3
What's worth keeping in mind when buying spare parts?
>>722721403>Beitong KunpengCar named motherfucker
>>722686349Some anon from the previous thread asked me about my controllers: basically everything is original except the shell and the options/share buttons and they feel damn good. They're from a Chinese company called ExtremeRate and it's the best 3rd party shell producer out there, much better quality than no-brand generic AliExpress replacement shells. Having said that, the share/settings buttons sometimes don't click well enough that I'm happy with so I usually tend to add a drop of superglue at the end of those and wait until it dries before assembly so they are a tad more extended and click much better without you needing to use your nail to press them, but that's almost microscopic work and it 99% of the time isn't an issue unless you have OCD like me.
>>722718073Steam Controller with a dpad instead of worthless joystick the concave boobies are already better than joysticks it's half the point of the controller I'm not supposed to need a mouse OR sticks
>>722712265What do we(you) think about capacitive tech?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip09JB_mFFc
Getting my new roller delivered today. Kinda excited
>>722738716>gluethe answer was so fucking simpleI was using washers
dont fucking buy gamesir shiti just bought a g7 pro and it had a broken stick right out of the box, it just always goes righti am so fucking pissed what a dogshit chinkshit company
>>722738910Why would you need a d-pad though? It's not a 2D controller, it's specifically for trying to be usable for the various PC genres that elude most console controllers. Even then, unless you specifically need 2 Axis grid movement, the touchpad sort of works and you can rebind d-pad + button combinations to something else.The Steam Controller with higher build quality on the bumpers/flaps and not trying to copy the face and stick layout of modern controllers would have been pretty great, since the face buttons and stick are not comfy to use
>>722712265Is the Candy Con worth looking into? Or is it just a big gimmick?
>>722723887damn the handles look like SHIT
I bought a Gulikit Switch dock years back and it served me well as a portable dock between home and university, no issues with it. Recently bought a Gulikit ES Pro controller which came today and it's pretty damn good. Uses BT so I don't need to add more proprietary dongles to the back of my PC and it also has insanely low input lag over BT too so it's a win-win. Really nice controller but maybe not quite as comfortable as a regular Xbox controller. The only thing I'm on the fence over is the gyro aiming because it feels gimmicky as fuck and doesn't really work well in practice. I ended up turning it off and going back to regular stick aiming.
>>722731304played no games for 2 years award
>>722729448its full on membrane, why even bother when the gulikit ES exists?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNUf2LI-K8o The Hunt for the BEST Controller (Hall Effect) - Linus Tech Tips - 16.5M subscribers 2.8M views 8 months ago
>>722733629heres some dongles u can use for the old xboxes>OG Xboxhttps://aliexpress.com/item/1005007581753732.html>360https://www.amazon.com/Brook-Wingman-XB-Converter-Keychain/dp/B0CQS8WP3Lthe brook xb3 dropped 360 support, for future reference.
>>722745942they did my boy Ultimate 2C dirty
I bought a controller last week. I'd always used a Sony controller previously, even my 8bitdo had a similar layout with the analogs side by side in the middle.But I decided I'd finally try the alternative xbox style controller and purchased a Gamesir Kaleid, hated the brand name but it seems it had decent reviews from several sites.I gotta admit, thus far not a bad controller by any means and it was easy enough getting used to an alternative layout. My main criticism however is the options button beside the left analog, it definitely feels awkward trying to hit it while still using the analog unlike the Sony layout where it was only beside the D pad.Still, not a bad controller especially considering the price range. I was surprised to see how much controller prices have gone up, never paid more than $50 before.
>>722712265WHERE THE FUCK IS IT VALVE?
>>722721414I do it for free. I will shill this cheap fucking thing until the end. It's unironically great on its own merits, especially for the price. Feels great, shape and input-wise.I had two critiques of it, a firmware update resolved one. It used to completely disconnect from the PC when it went into standby and had to reconnect every time, the update stopped it from disconnecting and now it properly enters sleep mode.Only con left is the limitations on the programmable back buttons because the Lite doesn't have any mapping program. There's no means to precisely enter an input sequence; you have to record it manually, and the total inputs allowed are relatively few. A macro can only be started while both analog sticks are neutral. A single button assigned to the back button works fine, but I wish I could have that back button turbo fire like the face buttons can.
>>722747001is this a dualshock 4 clone? i never realized how fucking stupid it would look without the touchpad
>>722743495Yes the chink products have bad QC. Here is your 'fell for it again award'. See you next thread.
>>722747056It does have an almost identical shape to the DS4. The overall shell, sticks and face buttons have a near 1:1 placement and spacing, so it's a clone in that regard. Triggers on the T3 are broader and feel much nicer to press, and the grips taper a bit differently compared to the rounder DS4 grips. Some other minor differences in the shape like how the face of the shell contours, but not enough to make a difference.
>>722747001How's that d-pad? Looks nice.
>>722747715I like it. Comparatively, the DS4's dpad has a wide enough gap between the directions, the shell crossing over in-between them, and the corners of the pad are sharper so it can irritate your thumb if you rest it in the middle and do rocking motions.The T3 puts the arrows closer together, makes the "bowl" shape in the middle a bit wider and the edges of the pad are slightly more rounded so your thumb rests a lot more comfortably and can roll around the inputs more smoothly.
>>722722318I have a retrofighters controller and their QC dept fucking sucks, one of the triggers actually popped out. Also one of the analogue sticks started drifting after a month. And I say all this as someone who thinks 8shitpoo are godawful too and currently use some no-brand chink 360 clone.
>>722748013Yea I like how concave it looks, seems like it'd make a good pad for fighting games. Doesn't seem like it works on Switch 2 though. I'll buy it anyway and hope for a firmware update. Thanks.
>>722719454>>722734717>+1Shills
bump
>>722745645No it isn't, the d-pad's dome switch. Also has four back buttons that only work for macros, trigger stops non-microswitch, and 2.4ghz with a dongle that regularly shits itself, unless you turn down the polling rate? over the ES.
I hate large controllers.
How's this for 20 bucks?
>>722717623Pressure sensitive face buttons, not triggers. We still have triggers that do that.
>>722752584Pretty damn good actually. It's the best bang for your buck controller on the market imo.
>>722739241>UPDATEholy shit that thing is a monster.first game of hardpoint @bo7 beta with it(razer wolverine v3 TE 8k)
honestly, this is a higher tier controller
>>722746135Steam Controller was objectively shit and pointless....well only useful for their Steam Machines that flopped.
>>722754270The right trackpad proved that right analog is completely redundant and objectively inferior. No controller should have a right analog stick going forwards. Alas, shitters like games being played for them.
>>722743495>>722747392Sure did. Let me guess you didn't even try to return it for a working product? What's next, you recommend we should all purchase dualsense instead? What do you take us for? Next time you're gonna leave a link to your crypto wallet so people can donate to you? Huh?
link the previous thread
>>722754458no i havent tried it yet cause its been literally a daythis shit fucking feels ass in hands anyways the dpad is awful, stick is broken
>>722724201smallsmallbros? our response?
can these guys be trusted for controller reviews?
>>722757627Why the fuck would graphicsfags know anything about controllers?
>>722757704>you cant have knowledge in more than 1 fieldmutt moment
>>722757817They certainly aren't specialists you fucking fag.
>>722723887>still no announcement or any news on the tarantula v2 or the tegenaria pro>tarantula back in EU store>this shit looks just like a gimped tarantulaso this is just e-waste?
>>722757627>>722757817These guys are literally shills and bad ones at that. They offer nothing of value.
>>722758057
>>722758163>Ask if you can trust them on controllers>"No, here's one example that shows they aren't even good at their main job">Posts a retarded replyWhy do I even bother with midwits here?
>>722721403I got the Elves 2 Pro and I'm not enjoying it, the left stick has this issue where the input stagnates in certain areas. I had a lot of faith in the controller so I ordered a replacement and it still has the same issue.
>>722758341They're also massive shills for Nvidia and DLSS. I would rather trust independent anons than some retards.
>>722758341
>>722758363Could be something that needs a firmware update, but Gulikit controllers also had horrible responsiveness until their last three releases. The regular Elves 2 is ironically a much better controller than the Elves 2 Pro as a result, and since the non-Pro released after Switch 2 it also has a wireless Switch 2 mode capable of waking the console.
What do people use back bumpers for? I have a fancy new controller that is nice because it feels good in my hands and the sticks are nice but I dont know what I would use the buttons and bumpers on the back of the controller for, while game controls by default don't account for them because they don't exist on standard controllers.
>>722752584I bought two of them, and they both drop connection quite frequently. They're alright otherwise if you just want something cheap.
>>722748481>Doesn't seem like it works on Switch 2 though.Where do you get this from? Sure it's inconvenient to have to put USB-A cable to your Switch 2 dock, but that's why you buy a USB HUB (ideally a powered one, so one that gets power externally) so you have more USB spots. The T3 Lite works on switch 2
>>722759120For games that make frequent use of multiple face buttons (e.g. Mega Man slide+jump+shoot) it's useful to move some of those inputs to other fingers.Anything that'd take a claw grip to avoid moving your thumb off the stick (most soulslikes, among other things) is useful, especially on layouts that don't let you claw grip in the first place.If nothing else, I'd rather press a button than a stick for L3/R3.
>>722734717>the mechanical switches help with my RSIwhats rsi
>>722754395Third person camera is is more intuitive with stick, while mouse is better for first person. First person games are not so good other than for shooters, so you could argue mouse is only really good for strategy and fps games. Former is dead and latter consist of mostly braindead games. The it's a game controller / right stick victory
>>722760109Repetitive strain injury. Carpal tunnel is probably the most well known one but there's a host of other injuries that are also probably more likely to happen from gaming.
>>722760423>Third person camera is is more intuitive with stick, while mouse is better for first person. Who the fuck said this initially and why do retards keep repeating it? In both scenarios you're controlling a POV. Mouse is objectively the best way to control a POV, period. >so you could argue mouse is only really good for strategy and fps games.Keyboard and mouse is the best input for every single genre ever except racing games, in which case a wheel is better input. Games are literally handicapped to work on controllers.
>>722761091Stick is more intuitive for manipulating 3d camera (third person) and mouse is only good for "flat" surface views (first person view or over top strategy view). Moving mouse to control third person feels like there's a trail, that the 3rd person is trailing behind the mouse movement. That's because you're using 2d surface control scheme to rotate a 3d camera that's distanced from you character. The stick feels more natural for 3d camera like that. If you're unable to see this it's probably because you're some kind of PC purist
>>722761454>Stick is more intuitive for manipulating 3d camera (third person) and mouse is only good for "flat" surface viewsHow many axis are there in a first person view? How many axis are there in a third person view?You are fucking retarded.
>>722761589>How many axis are there in a first person view? >How many axis are there in a third person view?The 3d camera exists in 3d space, "rotating" it is more intuitive with.. stick that does 3d motion (same as in cinema) for rotation. Mouse is just an object you swipe, you don't "rotate" the mouse. Do you understand anon? The stick is like a trackball. You rotate a camera that's outside of player with a trackball, not with a mouse. Get a grip
>>722762153The answer, for both, is 2, you fucking moron. You know why analog players don't score higher on aim trainers using a controller? Because its OBJECTIVELY a bad input for controlling a POV. You brain damaged retard.
>>722735346>extra buttons are usually unsupported. I've defaulted back paddles as L3/R3Set it to Dinput (changes it to Bluetooth) and Steam Input works on it, can assign L4/R4/PL/PR
>>722762332You have brain damage. Probably FPS only gamer. Go enlist and die lol
I'm happy with it overall. Guess for me to most important asepct will be how long it lasts before having issues. I'm at around a year of use now.>second set of back buttons are not useful for frequent actions but it's fine otherwise>face button feel is not my favourite>no real battery indicator anywhere, not even on the software, just blinking once it's low
Blitz2 shill here, daily reminder if you want steam input support as dual sense edge, gyro to mouse, 4 extra buttons, and tmr sticks get it. >>722759120I use them almost exclusively for leaning in FPS games configured in steam input
>>722762931>You have brain damage.You are the one who couldn't answer how many axis you control between a first person and third person game.Not an argument. I accept your concession.
>analog for third person>mouse for first person
>>722763096Some anon from other thread diagnosed you well >>722759523
>>722763259this. literally no reason to gimp yourself just because of 3rd person camera
>>722754131I have one, it has Hall Effect sticks and Triggers which was kind of rarity for it's time. The triggers have an awkward shape though, not sure why they did that. Feels good to use in FPS games because of the sticks, but otherwise I'm not too much of fan of the ergonomics.
>>722763272How many axis are there in a first person view?How many axis are there in a third person view?
>>722752584Pretty great, but unless you're really poor get an Ultimate 2 instead.
>>722763506Thank you for confirming what that other anon said
>>722763643I accept your concession
>um you see in third person the camera rotates around a point in front of the camera, technically>that means you're rotating the camera on more than two axes as though the offset displacement from the rotation point means anything>also the analog stick is three dimensional because the stick rotates around a ball so that's like a circular motion>even though the stick deflection input is registered only as an X and Y axis
>>722763473>hall effect sticksFirst I've heard of it. Looks like a standard potentiometer housing to me.
>>722763980He really fucking shot himself in the foot when he mentioned a trackball
Dualsense for 3d slopM30 for 2d slopArcade stick and leverless for Streets
>>722763980Gotta use the right tool for the job anon. People earning money have more credibility than some quake shooter
I have been playing video games with mostly a mouse and a keyboard my whole life, is there a point in learning and getting used to playing with a controller?
>>722764184Post aim trainer scores of analog vs mouse. I need a laugh.
>>722712265Im at the point that i consider at least two paddles in the back a necessity
>>722715618i just did the needful based on your recommendation. it better be good!
>>722764274There's no learning curve except for shooters where you absolutely need gyro especially coming from kbm
>>722745094If anything aiming with a stick feels more gimmicky than using any motion input method as aiming
>>722764274>learninggames aim for you or control the camera for you. no.
>>722723271nta, got one a few weeks ago enjoying it a lot, if i tested it shooters i would be able to recomend it 100%
Anyone here use a pillow for resting your arms when playing? Lately I've been feeling uncomfortable resting my arms in my lap but I don't wanna buy some gaming brand nonsense.
>>722764681I do it because I don't want to have a fucking radio transmitter millimeters next to my testicles. So I put a pillow between my lap and the controller to make some distance
currently waiting for a guy to collect my controller with a broken right sticki dont know why he wants such a thingits literally broken
>>722764904You know most games don't even use the right stick, rite?
>>722764904that’s a $3 fix anon
>>722765878>>722766312I gived him it + 2 more I had laying around I don't remember the quality ofReally awkward indian guy
guys is the 8bitDOE ultimate 2 similar in size, shape and comfort to the switch pro controller (1)?I love the switch pro pad but windows support is pretty garbage, even with tools like betterjoy
>>722766484>IndianDid he smelled funny!
>>722766713bigbigwon Blitz 2 has lower latency so you could maybe get that for that reason alone
>>722766831isn’t that thing more like the xbox controller shape wise?
>>722766992korean guy said it's "like 8bitdo utlimate" so I guess that means it's actually more switch-like than xbox series style controllerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Up8AAOM-t0
>>722766713>even with tools like betterjoyUse DS4Windows and Switch Pro's functionally an xbox controller with gyro and the ability to bind whatever you want on any button, kbm inputs and combo binds included
>>722767161but I don’t want a controller that constantly reminds me of bbc superiority…
>>722767575No it's a play on the name, "bigbig won" , has nothing to do with bbc
>>722766745Nah he looked like he just finished a shift, didn't smell of anything
>>722767674but the big, BIG one won…
>>722767554I’ll give it a try
>>722768147you might be demonically possessed anon. seek help
>>722767674>Bigbig WONI don't know why but it reminds me of Dragon Ball memes from /a/.
I'll buy this one.
>>722768561what's the purpose of those orange rings around the stick
>>722718073- XSX pad form factor- TMR sticks- 2.4Ghz- No shitty backbutton triggers I'll never use and are a discomfort (I can live with them if there's no other option)- Takes 2 AA batteries because why in the everliving FUCK would I use shitty 1000 mAh batteries that barely last 10h with vibrations, when I can use my god tier Eneloops Pro that will last me 25h.That's it, that's the dream controller. Just a fucking XSX pad with TMR sticks.And it doesn't exist. I dare you to find such a product on the market. Go on.
is there any way to have steam assume im always using a ps5 controller so i get ps button prompts in games?
>>722768647anti-friction rings, so the sticks rotate smoothly instead of grinding against the controller's housingmost controllers have them, but they usually match the shell's color so they don't stick out
>>722768918found it
>>722768918>>722769220instead of being retard, you could just buy v4p or cyclone 2 like everyone else
>>722727845>sony already solved controllers?*starts drifting after 300hrs of use in your path*yes im replying to a 13hr post because I'm angry that all 3 of my ps5 controllers have drifting issues.
>>722768918gulikit es pro fits most of these
any tips on cleaning gamer gunk off your controller?
>>722768918Back buttons are good and make many games way more comfortable to play.>>722769636Wash your hands after pissing and shitting like a non-subhuman living in the first world should. Also wash them after eating if you didn't use utensils.
>>722768918Learn to solder I guess.
Already asked this in the last thread, but posting the pic of a specific controller as example got anons focusing on that controller(even if it wasnt the focus) rather than the question, so lets try again..There are some controllers which, in a way or another, let you swap the Dpad and left stick to switch from an asymmetrical XBOX layout to a symmetrical PS layout.There are some controllers whcih, in a way or another, let you swap A/B and XY buttons to switch from the XBOX button layout to the Nintendo one.There are some controllers which, in a way or another, let you do both of the above.Now my question is, why aren't there ANY controller that do both of the above but also include PS buttons?>inb4 sony owns the symbolsmany unofficial 3rd party controllers found a way to get around it with similar symbols and do that just fine, so that's not an excuse.>inb4 including extra buttons costs too muchthe controllers that allow you to swap buttongs more often than not also come with EXTRA ABXY buttons in case you lose the ones already on the controller, so adding PS ones instead of these extra ones would cost the same.And if not officially, why no one came up with a 3d printable solution?>tl;drwhy so many companies produce controllers that allow you to switch between different controller layouts, symmetrical to asymmetrical, and XBOX buttons to NIntendo buttons, but NONE that let you switch between ALL of them including PS buttons?
BBW
>>722712265You can change that Dpad, right?I love my 8bitdo Ultimate but the buttons being spherical instead of flat like the Switch Pro/PS hurts after a while.
>Vader 5The fuck is that dpad
>>722764554Nah it doesn't. The sticks make sense. Using gyro feels weird because you have to still use the sticks to look or move further than the scope of the gyro so you end up waving your controller about while also moving with sticks unless you're using aim labs where you're completely stationary. That gyro shit is staying off for good. And anyway why would I use gyro when the sticks are precise as fuck now. TMR sticks feel fucking great in terms of linearity unlike hall effect which felt inconsistent. If you're used to regular alps sticks then TMR feels the same in terms of the inherent aiming curve.
GIVE ME SYMMETRICAL OR GIVE ME DEATH
>>722771765Death it is, then
>>722770641>to switch from the XBOX button layout to the Nintendo one.This is the main reason it exists at all. Same letters in different locations depending on the platform of the game you're playing. There's no Sony competitor with triangle-square or cross-circle switched around.
got this for when i want to use a playstation layout it's pretty good
>>722772134doesn't justify not making PS buttons though, since they still have to make the extra ones they include in the box anyway in case you lose the OGs
>>722772641if i had the exact measures of the buttons some controllers that let you swap them use(like the nyxi flexi), i'd make them for 3D printers
>>722772641Might as well throw in blank buttons too while you're at it. I don't need them to say anything, just add some color.
>>722754796>>722684648
>>722772957that would also work
>>722747001what's the actual changelog on this firmware shit why would i want to flash a new firmware on a controller
>>722773026thanksthat just seems like another thread filled with retards and shitflingers so I think OP overdosed on cocks again>iTodderyeah that explains it
Now that I think about it, what do those firmware updates on XSX or Switch pads even do
>>722772564Got that one last month. Wireless would be great. It's a nice controller.
>>722770641Because playstation is largely irrelevant in this market. Sony have the the tightest restrictions for 3rd party controllers on their console and all PC games have xbox buttons by default. So having PS buttons is just a wasted extra expense for manufacturers. PC, mobile, switch and xbox all use ABXY.
>>722773221that might be a recent firmware. I don't think that existed week ago, I could be wrong
>>722773221Usually controller firmware updates are for fixing quirky bugs like the standby thing the other anon mentioned. The recent Gulikits had a ton of firmware updates for fixing connection or button issues in specific modes on specific devices.Sometimes they add new features like new console support (entire Gamesir/8Bitdo lineups with Switch 2 release iirc), increased polling rate (Gamesir G7 SE), or expanded software support where applicable, but that's pretty rare.
>>722772026>picrelWho?
>>722775407idk but looks like some nikke whore
>>722747715I have one of these as well and I'm very happy with the d-pad, way better than almost all 8bitdo's (besides the M30). I echo the other anon's issues with the back buttons as well as some of the front as well, you essentially need to use Steam Input or similar to map them for most games. This isn't a huge issue but it is something to be aware of.
>>722752584Good, but expect the d-pad to be fairly inaccurate. Depending on the game this is more noticeable. Otherwise very solid. I can't speak for the wireless one as I always buy wired but I have the green wired one and it is holding up well after 100+ hours of use.I use a different controller for d-pad heavy games (emulation, etc).
>>722775735Are both back buttons actually mappable in Steam Input? Gamesir's dinput broadcasts as a DS4, I'd imagine you can bind one in place of the touchpad but I wouldn't expect it to support both.
>>722776456Without installing any firmware I wasn't able to map the Capture / Home buttons in the middle of the controller (but strangely I could map the much smaller "folder" buttons on the front without issue in both Steam and stuff like emulators). I couldn't map the back paddles to anything without intervention from the firmware or Steam Input though.
I was going to buy a gameSAAR Cyclone 2, saw the price on the official website was 25€, but then when I look at prices on Amazon or other retailers it's more along the lines of 50~65€, what's up with that ?
>>722777068I wonder if it's possible there's some new cyclone refresh coming this year
>>722775407A ZZZ girl with a symmetry autism
>>722777068I was wondering the same, I wanted the Nova 2 Lite and saw it was at $15 on the Gamesirs shop but everywhere else it @ $30. It doesn't say it's on sale either.
>>722712265>best in class gyro)what "class"cause there isn't really competing with alpakka
>>722777267>>722777172Has anyone here ordered from the gameSAAR shop before, and if so did everything go well ?
>>722777237Thank you. I miss Soul Eater.
>>722777068It's 59€ for me on Gamesir's website, which country are you looking from?
>>722777428France, this is the exact page : https://gamesir.shop/products/gamesir-cyclone2-black?variant=44836482187498Maybe I got scammed by google results and this is a fake shop ?
>>722777370I've ordered off their aliexpress shop before for UK delivery and it was fine. Just took like a week or two to arrive.
I've been using the Xbox Series Xcontroller for 2 years and its probably the best controller I've ever used and still hasn't drifted. I actually love the clicky d-pad even though I was skeptical of it at first. The only problem I have with it is that sometimes the A button or the Start button will do a double input but it's pretty rare. I know it's not TMR or Hall Effect which means it's shit and unusable but for me it has been great and like I said no drift yet.
>>722777546Funnily enough, I'm a frog as well. For me, it's this website : https://gamesir.com/fr/collections/gamesir-cyclone-2-series/products/gamesir-cyclone2-blackMaybe it's mine that's a fake one, but the price is more in line with the expected one.
>>722777370no I order most my controllers form maxgaming.com/
>>722777546.com is the official website.
>>722777690>>722777703Right, so probably a scam website then, fucking google, it was the first result too.And I disabled NoScript on it too. Fuck's sake
>>722777604It's my favourite controller too but the tech inside is outdated as fuck compared to controllers half the price or 1/3rd the price. I've been using an xbox ripoff with 1000hz polling, TMR sticks, hall effect triggers, built in battery etc and while comfort is a downgrade, everything else is an upgrade. Competitive shooters are another level on a 1000hz controller.
>>722777828There are some 10% discount code floating around for their official site, though it's likely you'll get better deals ordering from Temu or Aliexpress, on top of benefiting from those website's own codes. Though I don't know if fake pads are floating around, it looks like people ordered from those place just fine.
>>722777906I'm a boomer with slow reflexes that just plays single player games so most of that doesn't matter to me. I'll look at one of those gook controllers when this one goes bad but every gook controller I've used feels like cheap shitty plastic, even the ones with Hall Effect sticks.
>>722777703holy shit you are right, I almost buyened from a fake site.
>>722778061Tbf even single player games feel instantly more responsive with a 1000hz+ controller over a 125hz xbox controller such as GTA 4 which is sluggish as fuck in general. The biggest reason for me buying an xbox knockoff was the wireless latency. The Bluetooth latency on xbox controllers is pretty terrible just like most other standard Bluetooth controllers. But you get 1000hz 2.4hz controllers now which allow you to play wirelessly with the same crisp input response as wired.
>>722774124>So having PS buttons is just a wasted extra expense for manufacturers.did you miss the part where i literally say this is not a valid reason given they ALREADY include extra buttons?now each controller comes with 8 buttons, ABXY on the controller and EXTRA ABXY in case you lose the OGswhat i'd suggest is just have the ABXY on the controller and PS buttons instead of the EXTRA ABXY, so still 8 buttons, no extra manufacturing expense compared to how it's done nowand as another anon said, the PS ones could even simply be colored ones, meaning there'd be even less manufacturing expenses than how it is now.the rest of your argumen is moot cause your point could be applied to symmetrical design and Nintendo buttons layout as well, yet they offer those, and im pretty sure developing and manufacturing those rotating or detatchable Dpad/Left Stick units just to allow symmetrical/asymmetrical layout switching is way more expensive than adding 4 piece of plasticor to say it differently, if Sony is irrelevant in this market, then Nintendo is even less relevant, yet these controllers still offer expensive to produce options both for nintendo and sony, yet they don't include the cheapest option
>>722778061Obviously it's somewhat luckbased if and when you get some problem with a given controller but after like 5 xbox controllers that all have a broken bumper, stick drift and/or sticky/clicky facebuttons sooner than they realistically should have on a pretty expensive controller that's also very simplistic featurewise I just had to get away from that shit.
>>722779430Are you stupid? Or just a playstation fanboy? Nintendo aren't anywhere as restrictive as Sony so why would a company advertise a playstation controller with playstation buttons which can't work on a playstation? All these Nintendo and xbox controllers are dual purpose, they'll work on multiple devices like a Nintendo, PC and mobile or xbox, PC and mobile. Playstation isn't even in the equation. Nobody is dumb enough to advertise a playstation controller which can't work on playstation, but then advertise it to also work on PC which by default uses xbox buttons. So how many people are going to actually use those extra playstation buttons? A miniscule amount probably. Take your beef up with Sony not the controller manufacturers who are providing excellent value.
>>722779804calm your tits anon, im not blaming anyone here, look at my original post, my point is understanding WHY no one does, im not blaming anyone for not doing it
>>722727845Only any good in first party Sony games and Call of Duty Modern Warfare II 2
>>722779804NTA, but why even allowing you to switch to the symmetrical design then? only playstation games use it
>>722770641A couple have symbol-less replaceable caps for their controllers.You could get some of those and paint/carve the PS symbols in yourself.
>>722781115I wonder if anyone will make their own to sell
Wake me up when there's a proper Dualsense Edge alternative, I desperately want a better controller
>>722780097Is this the post from old thread?I was going to say that maybe ZD O+ Excellence (despite its flaws with symmetrical faceplate) could've provided with sony style abxy buttons, but it seems not even ZD O+ has sony symbol buttons. I don't know why it's not more common https://gadgethyper.com/products/zd-o-excellence-button-moduleIf you're ok with being able to have just a modular PS controller, but without being able to change th sony symbols to xbox/swith ABXY letters, then the recently refreshed Victrix Pro BFG Reloaded (I think more expensive than the older "non-reloaded version) might be the controller for you. I don't know of controllers that let you change between ABXY / PS , guess that's too heretical or something idk
>>722780620Wtf kind of question is this? People who want dpad priority will buy a controller with a dpad on the left. If it has or hasn't got symmetrical sticks is irrelevant because that controller configuration is popular for dpad players regardless. Playstation buttons on the other hand are a niche for controllers which don't have Playstation compatibility, so there's no reason to offer them. There's always a reason to offer primary dpad input based controllers, like a Playstation style layout.
I think the reality is that you're going to own more than 1 gamepad. It's impossible to find a true "1 size fits all" glove, so you should build your controller arsenal with that in mind, to compliment each other
>>722768918>Just a fucking XSX pad with TMR sticks? lol
Are gamesir and razer my only options if I want extra shoulder buttons?
>>722782752No there are others that offer extra should buttons
>>722782752Cyclone 3 is coming out soon and it looks like it's basically just a Cyclone 2 but with extra shoulder buttons
>>722782710I tried doing this shit to replace drifting sticks. Either I got a faulty stick, or I fried part of the motherboard. I managed to replace the right stick and it works (albeit with utter shit 20% circle error), and the left one simply doesn't work.Would not recommend. And desoldering the factory sticks was one of the most cancerous thing I ever had to deal with.Oh well, the pad was about to go to the trash anyway, at least I tried saving it.
>>722712265>Symmetric sticks>sega dpadFucking nice! If only it didn't look like shit.
>>722783062It looks good in grey >>722721403
>>722712265Vader Pro 4 is great. I wish the back buttons were slightly bigger or positioned a little differently as hitting the inner ones is a little awkward, but other than that it's probably the best xbox style controller I've owned. Feels like a straight upgrade to the xbox sex controller.
>>722783160The color scheme is not the problem.
>>722722787They're both bad, but xinput is the worse one
>>7227827528bitdo controllers have them
where the FUCK is the steam controller 2 valve
>>722782752
>>722783164I've heard good things about this series of controllers but the 5th gen seems to be lacking some new cutting edge features that even budget controllers have now like TMR sticks and that's the only thing stopping me from considering it.
Anyone else has disconnection issues with PS controllers on pc? i thought it was because of the 2.4 band being saturated but i don't think thats it, anyone had this issue and managed to fix it?
>>722783679The TMR thing is kind of overblown desu, at least when it comes to the vader series. The sticks are already very responsive compared to other brands using hall effect stuff and IIRC from testing you get like 10 minutes extra battery life max from TMR sticks vs regular halls.
>>722784090apparently somehow flydigi managed to half the resolution from apex 4 to 5 .. like both use HE, but on apex 5 the resolution is 50% of what it was on Apex 4. I hope it's not same for Vader 5, maybe not because vader 5 I think uses different kind of hall effects (Apex allegedly uses Flydigi's own hall effect sticks which is why they suck)
>>722784190>flydigi managed to half the resolution from apex 4 to 5>source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJJK5WX8KI
>>722712265Gamesir G7 Pro any good? I'm torn between it or Flydigi Vader 4 Pro.
>>722784090I disagree because I've used TMR sticks and they're the only sticks which feel like normal 1st party controller sticks in terms of the input curve. Every hall effect I've used feels different which I've never been able to get used to.
>>722785321Are you comparing different sticks in the same controller, or are you going off 2022-2023 hall effect chinkshit that had smoothing algorithms making sticks abnormally unresponsive past the inner ~30%?
>>722785321The vader 4 pro is a bit of an anomaly because it has a noticeably higher stick resolution than other similarly priced controllers with hall sticks. It's not really in the same league as anything else.
beitong kp70 is like apex 5 but with good sticks
>>722712265what kind of name is gamesaar
>>722785943I've tried Chinese Hall effect controllers from brands like gamesir and some other ones i can't remember right now. You might be right but either way it's kind of a concensus thing nowadays that hall effect has a different feeling to regular alps sticks. TMR actually feels like alps sticks which is why it's an automatic upgrade over hall effect for quite a few people I've seen online, all other benefits aside. And I can vouch for that personally too.
Thinking about Gamsaar Cyclone 2 (since it has some of the least input delay for the price) for new games, and a retrobit Saturn controller for retro titles. Am I retarded?
>>722786038Aren't they the ones with the malware software or data breach relating to it?
>>722786172What kind of name is play-station or x-box if you think about it.
>>722786486never heard of this
>>722786357yes, for retro games elves 2 should be better.. maybe. just dont get the pro version
>>722786679I see. I was just thinking 6-button would be nice for emulating Genesis games, and some fighting games.
>>722786283>hall effect has a different feeling to regular alps sticksThis is true. By nature of the sensors, they have reduced center sensitivity.>TMR actually feels like alps sticksSome do, most don't. Response curves vary wildly with sensor design, but typically they undershoot the center and overshoot past it.
ive been using an xbone elite idk which one i got it for free from taco bellhow the FUCK do i get used to paddles
>>722719192>just buy new stick caps and open up the controllerFor some reason, I'd never considered doing that.Seems they aren't that expensive, either.
I'm a big fan of the tarantula pro as it has a number of features that I really wanted and uses the playstation layout, which I also prefer.
>>722789878Based
>>722728014Sony's gyro tech is worse than Nintendo's so they can't do anything good with it. You can't gave a PS game control as smoothly as Splatoon does, or at least I haven't played one that did.
This shit is wildly uncomfortable to holdThe grips are too short and the wings where the triggers protrude outwards are too steep and dig into your middle finger I'm actually getting hand strain from using this in under an hourDid razer get an alien to help them design the ergonomics?
>>722712265Best controller on the market is back down to its pre-tariff MSRP of 30-ish bucks on Amajew: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPY7H952If you need a controller for PC then I'd advise to get this one. Hall effect sticks, wireless charging dock (which also contains the 2.4Ghz receiver), lowest input latency on the market, good d-pad, buttons on the back, analog triggers, trigger locks for digital trigger config if you're a lunatic and like that, remappable, supports Steam Input/DInput/Xinput, good rumble, no excessive lighting like first party controllers, and the most rational button layout there is.
>>722790425It also falls apart pretty quick. I'm >>722790480 and foolishly gave Razer a shot on this controller (wired version) and while I did like the clicky buttons (sue me) I started getting missed inputs/dead buttons/double-inputs/etc within 6 months. Return it if you can.
>>722790480>Best controller on the market
The only controller 95% of us will ever need
>>722790683pure soul
Any Dualshock style controllers for Switch 2 that can at least wake the thing up?
>>722790683>>722790834Ignoring how cursed segmented d-pads are for a moment the controller feels like ass and the shoulder buttons are already missing inputs. I only got it to play PS exclusives on PC for the "HD Rumble", speaker and touchscreen gimmicks. And I ended up not using it in those after a while (mainly because the right shoulder button started acting up within 100 hours of use). They're trash. I like the color of my purple one tho I guess. It just sits unused collecting dust much like Playstation consoles must.
>people shilled the m30 for fighting games>got the 2.4ghz version because 2.4 > BT>it doesn't work on pc (fuck you amazon review that was fucking misleading as fuck)>get the bluetooth version>the dpad feels mushy and asswhat the fuck man
>>722790906No 3rd party controller can wake the Switch 2 up yet AFAIK. But the 8bitdo Pro 3 controller does work with it and supports everything even gyro. Not even my Ultimate 2 wakes it. I think Nintenjew came out and said we wouldn't be getting any or something recently.
>>722790648I'm about to, my forearm was literally hurting last night from the strain it was causingThe thing is I use controller one-handed for movement and mouse for aiming so it's important for me to have a lot of extra buttons, and I literally only bought this for the shoulder buttons. Does anyone have any recommendations for an alternative? I was looking at the nacon revolution x unlimited but it has some mixed reviews
Is there any comprehensive chart for comparing Gulikit's controllers? I'm trying to figure out what the difference between all the King Kongs is and why KK3 Pro which I assumed to be the best has HE sticks instead of TMR (also is ES/ES Pro just better than all of those?)
>>722754395it's useful for custom radial menus. more radial menus makes things easier to port MKB controls to a gamepad
>>722791103Gulikit Elves 2 and ES (Pro) canI thought some other brand had something that could by now, but maybe I was mistaken
>>722791154Don't bother looking at anything but Elves 2, ES, ES Pro, and the upcoming TT Pro/TT Max, nothing they released prior to those is worth discussion
>>722727845theoretically a good controller, but nothing actually takes advantage of the haptic triggers, the touch pad, or the gyro - unless you play "AAA" shooterslop, i suppose.
>>722786486source?
>>722790683Least comfortable controller this generation and also the bulkiest. They still don't understand how to make a comfortable controller. For example xbox has these beautifully ergonomic triggers which allow you to rest your hand on the triggers at a comfortable angle whereas Sony kept the same triggers as the ds4 which aren't even really triggers but more like flaps. And you need to hold the controller in a different and less comfortable way if you want to rest your finger on the triggers. And also those specific triggers have a break in period because my right trigger that i use in spiderman 2 for swinging is way looser than the left trigger after about 30 hours of gameplay time. You might think it's just a controller defect but the exact same thing happened to my brand new ds4 too back in the day. So unless the triggers have equal usage in gameplay you'll end up with one feeling tighter and the other feeling much looser after a while. Xbox and Nintendo don't have this problem because they don't use shitty flap designs like Sony.
>>722791078something like this is probably why elves 2 is better. also, has 2 sticks (+ it's on symmetrical layout), and has triggers (albeit they're digital, at least on the better non-pro version)TT Max will also have good d-pad. But if you need something now, probably elves 2 or v4p
>>722791154>>722791514exactly. Just buy all the controllers on picrel and you'll be fine
I bought this for my daughter. it is really fucking small.
When will Xinput die and we can enter the era of allowing more buttons to be bindable?
is there a controller that has everything that the Dualsense gives but better? I hate that somethings steam games wont give every feature unless i connect it via usb
>>722793137apex 5 and beitong kp70.. maybe.
What's the best controller for general-use? Something wireless that won't drift or have its shoulder buttons mess up.
>>722793903Gulikit ES Pro has the good Xbox series elite shape and low latency in bluetooth. The d-pad is also said to be pretty good
>>722793137I'm not sure if there's a way to handle haptics properly on PC wirelessly, since it needs to be connected as both a controller and a speaker for it. Don't think anything with a 3.5mm jack has that operate wirelessly either, but I never use those on controllers.
>>722794098I have one. The dpad is pretty much the xbox series x dpad but less clicky and noisy. It's basically the same. Not an upgrade or downgrade.
>>722721403Did they improve the latency on the KP70?
>>722792801Keychain controllers are such a meme. I got picrel and the d-pad on it would be fantastic in a normal controller, but it's so light compared to the actuation force of its switches that it'll just push out of your hand instead of pressing a direction without a firm grip, which is uncomfortable as hell at that size.
>>722795374I haven't tested yet, it seems to be average.. not greatest but far from bad either imo
any way to make my 8bitdo(switch) into a ps5 recognized controller? i struggle with steam sometimes swapping it to switch layout or xbox which confuses me when i start new games, also symbols feel easier to recognize
>>722795554I see. I thought some of their earlier offerings had horrific latency on the sticks in particular, but it looks like this has been rectified.
>>722795554Thats pretty awful. Worse than 1st party controllers.
>>722791078I always plug my M30 in when I use it. No issues for a wide variety of fighting games from SF6, Wolves, KoF, MvC3...
>>722795987If you say so
>>722795987Latency is usually where chinkshit lets you down.
>>722796582They've fortunately been getting better about that ever since Gamepadla became a thing.Hilariously Gulikit even got the site owner to make a video for them when they started making a serious effort to improve.
>>722790770I'm considering buying it, and it's cheap, comes with no frills and no bullshit, has the essentials. Though the plastic looks really cheap, at least on the black version. Also I'm not sure yet about its bluetooth. They advertise it as a BT tech where they can get 700 or 800 hz polling rate, but I trust 2.4Ghz so much more rather than BT.How is your controller, anon?
>>722796378https://gamepadla.com/xbox-core-controller.htmlAnd xbox is the baseline for latency because most controllers are based off it. It's only 125hz and not overclockable like a dualsense. How does a 3rd party 2000hz controller (judging by that picture) have worse stick latency than an xbox controller. That's pretty shocking.
>>722797065KP70 has adaptive triggers, and maybe some advanced vibration tech/motors too. I'm not sure if it's exact copy of dualsense haptic vibration, but both kp70 and apex throw around the word haptic in spec sheets, and they have very similar vibration motors to dualsense. Xbox has much more simpler vibration in comparison
>>722796867I was getting 700hz polling on mine via bluetooth when I did the latency test. Even if you have some interference and it drops to like 400-500hz it still feels noticeably more responsive than most wired controllers and definitely more responsive than pretty much any Bluetooth controller I've ever used. Buttons are great, sticks are great, bumpers/triggers are great. Just an overall fine controller. You'll forget you're not using an xbox controller pretty quickly until you need to pause the game which is where you might need to get used to the +/- buttons at the top of the controller. I keep hitting the home button by accident because if muscle memory and it opens the gamebar on my pc.
>>722791078Because you fell for the M30 fighting game shill memes. The retards claiming the Dpad is good cannot execute high level movements or advanced combos so they don't know any better. They think basic up down left right inputs and being able to do a Dragon Punch consistently means the controller is great.
Why does monoru prefer the blitz 2 with ALPS over TMR?
>>722797240Vibration all feels the same to me unless a controller has the xbox rumble triggers which is the only haptics I've experienced which noticeably increase immersion. Such as playing forza horizon and wheelspinning a car, the right trigger vibrates as you're struggling for traction. Dualsense uses those tension triggers which I genuinely despise because I don't like fighting my controller to make a basic input like swinging fast in spiderman.
>>722763259It depends on the game unironicallyA game like s4 league will be better with a mouse. But driving and looking around while doing so in gta is better with a controller, while aiming on foot is better with a mouse. Hope you understand
>>722728275Anyone?
I bought an 8bitdo but I have yet to find a single use case for the back buttons after like...A year of use. Maybe I'll try making one of them a dedicated screenshot button or something.
>>722797408Nice, sounds like a good Xbox pad replacement. I think I too will fuck up sometimes due to muscle memory, but I can learn that again.Also, since anons are talking about rumble, how is it compared to the XSX pad? I like stronk rooomble.
>>722797594Because the ALPS has relatively linear sensitivity, while the TMR has low sensitivity in the middle and ramps up from there.I'm kind of surprised he's an ALPSfag when he does so much customization with stick sensitivity anyway, but ALPS Blitz 2 existing in the first place is proof it isn't unique to him.
>>722798120You can turn the rumble up to a higher level and it's pretty nice feeling but I haven't tested out a ton of games with it yet. It's not an xbox pad but a switch pad so it doesn't come with the same rumble triggers as xbox controllers do. You just get the rumble in the grips and that's it.
Ah yes hall effect sticks, the stick I bought, which I know what it does, that stick, unlike the other stick I had before, which is worse, not as good as hall effect stick.
>>722798073i set them to the triggers so i dont have to move around my shoulder button fingers so much, or in case i have to press both shoulder and trigger buttons, i dont have to use both the index and middle fingersdepends on the game really
I love trigger locks when emulating psx games.
>>722798292But he’s fixing the TMR linearity with custom curves though?
Cyclone 2, with its absolute diagonal rejection, it's comfy controller for grid based TD games. I would imagine Tar Pro is too (hands too dirty to test it now) but where Cyclone 2 excels is its ergo, and how it's much more lightweight than most of the "flagship" products. It's like 40g lighter than it's direct competitor, Vader 4 Pro. It gets the shape close enough and is lighter, sometimes it's little stuff like that that matter the most.
Anonyone ever tried to upgrade his controller's battery with a higher capacity one? Those +-1000 mAh batteries those controllers come with, if not 700, simply don't cut it.
>>722798923No. I’m not a virgin.
>>722798923I mean I guess it would be good to get extra hours from larger battery, but I don't know how much I trust the Q/A of some generic random batteries. At least when you're buying a chink aftermarket battery for certain product, I at least assume there was some testing done with the said device in question. What you're linking here looks to be just batteries that work with all devices, and they likely have not been tested in the conditions of the many devices they would later be used in by the consumer. When buying aftermarket battries, I think it's generally good idea to buy "replacement battery for product X"
>>722798923I've considered it for giggles, but whenever I see a review that actually measures the mAh it always seems to be the same as the stock battery instead of whatever's advertised, so I don't trust them to be anything more than a replacement for a failing battery.
>>722798708would kill for a trigger lock that uses a rubber-membrane button for max authenticity, all of 'em i've seen use microswitch buttons
>>722797936>>7227282754 back buttons plus extra bumpers is rare, not even elite controllers or steam controller has them
>>722798731Like I said, I'm surprised it matters to him at that point too. Maybe there's some inaccuracy despite the custom curves, maybe he just recommends it because it's a simple out-of-the-box choice with zero fiddling.
>>722728275>>722800214I think you saw photo of v4p or from some old vintage 6 face button controller, and now got the idea that 6 face buttons is a good idea. Well I'm telling I don't play fighting games, I have v4p and I've forgot most of the time that V4P even has 6 face buttons. It's much better to have those extra buttons on shoulders. I guess ideal is either 2 paddles + 2 shoulders or 4 back + 2 shoulders, but some say 4 back buttons can get too crowded if it's implemented wrongly (something that seems to be subjective). I don't know maybe for fighting games 6 might be good but like I said I don't play them so I couldn't tell, but for rest of other games they're pretty useless and shoulders are better.
>EasySMX releases an enhanced version of the goat X05>and then gives is a circle d-pad instead of the perfect cross from the originalI don't understand
>>722712265>symmetricalFucking finally, I'm tired of my DS4's dpad getting worn out and have been looking for alternatives
>>722800584for most games these circle d-pads are much better than cross. The cross is cringe for anything but absolute grid based games. I believe a well implemented circle d-pad, that's not prone to accidental diagonals, should be more ideal than a cross d-pad that more often than not is likely to reject even intentional diagonals.
>all this chink MadCatz shit ITTElite Series 2 GOD race btw
>>722800631If you want a DS4 style controller you should keep eyes open for any gamesir tarantula refreshes. There's 2 wired versions teased, but a wireless version might also come this year, maybe.
>>722785313Nah. ZD Ultimate Legend is the way.
>>722775269Damn I didn't know Gulikit controllers needed to be updated twice, a regular firmware update and a bluetooth firmware update. That's kinda weird.
>>722800913how is the d-pad on that
>>722801096Above average and you have 5 interchangeable options, the standard and these 4.
>>722801325It is completely modular with hot swappable everything. The standard d-pad in that Z dpad.
>>722801325>>722801441I kinda love that 3rd stick option. Aside from getting the dualshock stick layout, wonder what having 3 sticks at the same time would be good for.
>>722801441yeah the standard z diamond looks coolest and most unique, but some were saying the diamond's not so good for diagonals?
>>722800682Well I just played through all of Silksong on this d-pad and it felt great, the precision was perfect too.
>>722801483>wonder what having 3 sticks at the same time would be good for.Fighting games or a fun way to select itens.>>722801502The standard Z dpad was made for branding, I think the Xbox and cross are more ergonomic and pratical.
>>722801441Wish it still had the full modularity of O+ so it could be symmetrical. Floating Neo Geo "d-pad" is cute, but I want the d-pad up top.
>>722801736It also has four back buttons and two extra buttons next to LB and RB. It has dedicated R3 and L3 buttons, so you don't need to press the stick.
>>722801014I didn't know what the hell you were talking about until I looked at their older controllers, that's very odd. Elves 2's had several Bluetooth-specific firmware updates that weren't categorized separately like that.
>>722801883Dedicated R3 and L3.
>>722800283his #1 controller recommendation for fps games is the ZD ultimate legend now according to a comment he made under one of his latest videos. I think it was the razer wolverine one
>>722801736>Fighting gamesthose zoomers that use the sticks on their gamepads are gonna do quick sonic booms so good with that if they played charge characters
>>722801974holy shit those dedicated r3 and l3 are actually pretty cool. not sure how usable in the heat of combat but certainly helps with stick durability
where do I even buy the ZD ultimate legend? Can’t find it on aliexpress
>>722800485I’m not necessarily looking for 6 face buttons I’m looking for 4 backs 2 extra shoulders and the whole mouse trigger to normal trigger switch the only controllers I know that fit this are the v4p the upcoming v5p and the 8bitdo ultimate 2 is close but lacks 2 back buttons and since I have the ultimate 1 I kind of wanted to get something different
>>722802178I found this one, but it is quite expensive.
>>722802231If 4+2 is necessity and 2+2 wont suffice, then there might be less controllers for sure, but there might still be a couple around for sure.
ZD will also issue new swappable shields and they also sell three more flavours of hot swappable sticks, PUYAO, ALPS and KY JS13PRO.
>the alps version of the bbw blitz 2 is 79€>the switch 2 procon is 74€mhhmmm
>>722802178I highly recommend waiting for the 11/11 sale.
>>722727845Ugly, overdesigned, and in every way a step down form the DS4, an actually good controller.
>>722802890ALPS are still the tactile king, right behind the cutting-edge capacitive sticks (like Huben 2).
>>722802890I've never once seen a good sale on that thing either. Interested me since release, but it didn't seem worth paying 3x what Cyclone 2 cost me.
>>722803240There was a sale just yesterday. 67€
>>722803190this one apparently, sadly, has some trigger deadzone issues
>>722803357From what I see, it is more about the stick tension, which is above 60gf. That's why so many people like the Vader 4, it is easy to adjust.
>search for a new controller for PC>heard a our the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 being amazing >only downside is that it's for manlet hands >everyone says they get cramps and awkward positioning if you have big hands >buy the controller anyway>suffer from cramps and awkward positioningThis fucking controller is top tier, but the thing was made for Manly Tears in mind. Thinking of getting the either the Cyclone 2 or the Vader 4 Pro, are those better for someone with big hands?
>>722803569nono I don't mean the sticks, I mean the 2 analog triggers or whatever, they have a "inner" deadzone, there's like a zone of movement before triggers register
>>722803591>top tier>with that latencyyeah no
>>722803328I see $66 USD currently, but that's still way higher than the $27 I paid for Cyclone 2>>722803591Vader's around the size of XSX, Cyclone 2's marginally smallerBoth have the grips angle outward instead of the straight 8Bitdo ones, which is what causes the majority of the latter's ergo complaints
>>722803591I could be wrong, but if you have big hands, the symmetrical shape might be better? Like it's probably not any more comfortable (many say symmetrical is a bit of a mixed bag or whatever) but it's wider or something so it might be more handholdable for big hand, maybe? If you liked the membranes of ultimate 2, I think 8bitdo pro 3 could be good for you, that too has ton of membrane innit
>>722803591Top tier controllers are usually 90$+
>>722803701GameSir Tar Pro has all of the latency, and that one's a halo product. I guess it goes to show that you can be good even with some latency. Gotta give some handicap for the competition
>>722712265>if you don’t want to wait for the 5 Pro, which you probably shouldWhat's the 5 pro got?
>>722804086I think it has 2 extra shoulder buttons, might've had 2 more in the back too, but it might also have lower wireless latency than V4P
>>722804086+2 shoulder buttons, back buttons are paddle style instead of the ergo nightmare 4 uses, presumably lower latency
Why the fuck does the Pro 3 not have 1000hz?
1 thing I slightly dislike about cyclone 2 is their trigger locks. Their operation/implementation is shitty, you have to use almost nails to turn them around the trigger. It's crazy how much better the implementation is on Tar Pro, Pro 3.. actually pretty much any other controller I have with trigger locks
>>722804417They save that for the Wireless models, and they've only made a Pro 3 Bluetooth so far.
Can they please stop putting rubber grips on controllers? Just throw a pair of talon grips into the box for those who prefer it grimy
>>722803851>Cyclone 2 is smallerDammit, at least the angle of the grips of way better than 8bitdo's shit. Might give the Vader 4 Pro another look, but I hear constant whining about it's build quality and the stick tensors getting shitty over time, which makes me not consider it seriously.>>722803891That's what I thought as well, but in practice, unless I'm playing completely sitting straight with the controller well placed in the middle of my body, the controller becomes uncomfortable to hold and I have to grab it with my fingers while the rest of my hand floats to be able to hold it properly without pressing my shoulders towards my body. If the grip angles were wider, like most other controllers, my hand wouldn't need to be floating in midair while holding the controller. Apparently the ergonomics of the controller are absolute shit unless you have small hands.>>722803907I don't need an elite, e-sport approved controller, I don't play competitive vidya, anon.
Is there a USB-C dongle for the ES Pro, all my USB ports are taken
>>722804709>That's what I thought as well, but in practice, unless I'm playing completely sitting straight with the controller well placed in the middle of my body, the controller becomes uncomfortable to hold and I have to grab it with my fingers while the rest of my hand floats to be able to hold it properly without pressing my shoulders towards my body. If the grip angles were wider, like most other controllers, my hand wouldn't need to be floating in midair while holding the controller. Apparently the ergonomics of the controller are absolute shit unless you have small hands.Does your chair have good armrests? Maybe you need to buy some chair with either good enough height adjustments, or that you can also adjust the angle of the front section of armrests at an 30 degree angle or something, to lift arms upwards while supporting them. Could also be you need to train more some muscle groups in gym or with some home device like dumbbells or something.
>>722804883Buy some externally powered USB hub with 4-7 ports or something?
>>722804958>height adjustmentsarmrest height adjustments
>>722805010No that's gonna add latency and stuff
>>722804709I've yet to hear about a flawless adjustable stick tension mechanism, so I'm paranoid about that ruining the TT Max eventually too.If it gives any context, Cyclone 2 fits about as snugly in Flydigi's carrying case as a Vader does, it's just a slightly thinner (front-back) controller with slightly shorter grips. Dualsense is slightly too wide for that case.
the good thing about cyclone 2 though is that it weights less than vader 4 pro, and you can notice the difference
>>722805120Is the Dpad of the Cyclone 2 as shit as everyone says? I've seen videos and the dpad looks OK, but everyone whine about it enough that it could be an issue.
Trying to decide between Gamesaar Cyclone 2 and Vader Pro 4 since they're both on sale on Amazon. Is the Vader worth the extra $20?
>>722717331yeah just add THE controller breaking mechanic back please
>>722723453Still nothing and I check frequently. HURRY THE FUCK UP
>>722805443It definitely has the weirdest press feel of any d-pad I've used, but I haven't had accuracy issues with it.
I really, really hope this thing is good for PC. I've been wanting something with a Sony Dpad but good sticks and triggers for years now. Im using a Dualsense now but it pisses me off with the shitty start button placement and shit ergonomics.
>>722797632>But driving and looking around while doing so in gta is better with a wheelfixed
>>722805596I think you could wait until the reviews on V5P are out. It might have lower wireless latency than V4P, and it has 2 extra shoulder buttons. While you wait you could buy a Gulikit ES Pro
>>722804883No it uses Bluetooth at 700hz polling. Just make sure you have a modern Bluetooth receiver like one of those BT 5.0+ models. They're like $/€10 on amazon.
>>722805617I could be wrong but I think for PC a dongle kind of controller might be better? I have desktop PC and I can't even use bluetooth without attaching some weird router antenna with cables behind my PC, and I'm almost never using that thing. Besides switch 2 pro controller sucks, I don't know what to tell to you, all of my 3rd party controllers are better.
>>722802178amazon bro
>>722806219just make sure you buy the charger too, it's good to have the charger for controller like this
>>722785313terrible qc, its rng if you get working sticks or notdont get anything gamesir
>>722806054My laptop has a 'Bluetooth 5.3 wireless card' is that the same thing?
>>722805617>>722806084besides it's better to have separate controller for PC and switch, then you don't need to "repair" the switch controller when you want to re-use it with switch. Like keep at least 1 controller dedicated to switch alone or something
>>722806339Where did you buy yours? Aliexpress or some other store or where? Maybe it was damaged in the transport, or not?
>>722806763it wasnt damaged just shit stick that doesnt work
the left/right test is interesting, it seems some controllers that do well/ok in contra test might still fail the left/right/left/right test. In platformers and fighting games it might be important to be able to pull left/right/left/right without any unintentional down/ups in between them somewhere. Cursor shaped d-pads might have disadvantage against disc shaped d-pads on this test, the disc remains more "centered". I guess you can test with that some web app, but easier is with some grid based top-view TD game or something. If all you're trying to press is left/right, and you accidentally go up or down then something was not right
>>722806601Probably
>>722807750Contra test has some value, but left/right almost singlehandedly defines a good or bad d-pad for me.632146 inputs (half circle -> forward) tend to expose the remainder of potential issues (missing intentional diagonals, directions not springing back up fully in rolling inputs, poor pivot)
>>722712265Dont play that often with controller and in the past decade ive been using some old ps3 controllers but one by one they broke and now Im looking for a replacement. What would be a good choice thats similar to it?
I have gamesir cyclone 2. Pretty good chang controller except....The face buttons, they are wobbly, mushy and suck ass. They use a cheap ass rubber pad on top of the switches. If press rapidly, they feel like diarrhea.Get mobapad huben 2 instead.
>>722807082Maybe it's some kind of QC issue like you say. My recent T3 Lite has been having some issues which require me to restart its functionality or something, before a problem goes away.
>>722801556Well thats because your a fucking retart, so theres that
>>722795551my daughter is 4 so luckily she doesn't have that problem
>>722712265>tity max
>>722809290If you want to buy her a controller with sticks, then deltaco mini is pretty good. I bought one so I could have guest use it, but I ended up liking it so much that I let the "guest" use a switch pro 1 instead. It has gyro (not as good as switch pro, but gyro still) and is probably one of the smallest controllers with gyro, weights 124grams. Its gyro is not as good for splatoon 3 as pro controller, but it's still pretty good.
>>722791514>>722792424Are the dpad/face buttons on ES Pro swappable?
