Come home (Linux), Gamer man.
>>722992830Already did, a year or two ago.
>>722992830>lock your pc to our online servers, goyim>we definitely don't have previously announced plans to eventually lock users out of running programs on their own pc that we don't approve of
>>722992830I'll stick with 10 for as long as possible at this point. Maybe then Linux will be less of a headache or Windows with have another half-way mediocre OS like 10 again.I stuck with 7 until last year. I can hold out again.
>>722992830Can't. I play to many normalfag online games that linux can't play because of anticheat.
>write 'nigger'>Microsoft locks you out of your computer
>>722993423>your computerIt's not yours though, it's only "this PC".
I still have my original Windows 11 install on a flash drive.
>>722992830>you can't install this without- *holds power button*>*rebooting noises, disc drive opens*>welcome to ubuntuthis is literally whats going to happen.
>>722992830
>2018: "Linux can't run games, so just use Windows for games and Linux for everything else">2025: "Linux is only good for games, so just use Linux for games and Windows for everything else"Huh?Yeah, I get it, people who thought Linux can't run games without 300 lines of code transcribed into the terminal got BTFO by Steam Deck and Proton, but I don't understand how that made all other computing on Linux supposedly worse.
>>722992830works on my machine
>>722993312>I stuck with 7 until last yearbased, i did the same.i even went so far to remove battleye from the dayz linux server executable, just so i could host a lobby for us
>>722992830im on windows 10. im not moving
>>722993809It didn't. The same programs that schizos say you need windows for today didn't work on Linux in 2018 either. So you got 2 different sets of weirdos saying different retarded shit.
>I'm on Win XP, I'm not moving>I'm on Win 7, I'm not moving>I'm on win 10, I'm not movinghmmm...
>>722993809The real filter is alot of people don't know their passwords for their accounts. So installing a new os would be a giant pain in the ass.
I don't know man, do my art programs and drawing tablets work on linux? How about my emulators? Will linux let me play the very few new games releasing that I have interest in?
>>722992830God, I miss Windows XP. Has anybody made a Linux distro that is just legally distinct XP?
>>722994670>every other generation is skipped for some reason
>>722992830>thing's happening>doesn't actually happenidk senpai
>>722994670XP eventually became a huge virus target7 was intentionally sabotagedand 11 does not work on some hardware and im not paying to "upgrade" when I was tired of windows since XP.if I didn't have controller issues on linux when I had my old laptop + rpg maker issues with the same I wouldn't even be using windows 10, which ALSO has issues with rpg maker (fullscreen doesn't work without patches)
>>722994773Vista is just 7 that was released too early. 7 is bloated and slow as fuck just like Vista but the toasters that couldn't run Vista were littering a landfill by 2009.Windows 8 is basically no different from 7 and 10... EXCEPT it has a completely dogshit UI.
>>722994885Did you make this now though.
i hear that if you dont upgrade from windows 10, bill will come to your house at night and install windows 11 on your pc. is this true?
is this shit still required in w11 iot ltsc? if not, is it possible that it will be in the 2027 update?
>>722992830LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLwhat now w11 cucks?soon they'll add always online drm so you cant run cracked windows anymore
>>722993809Because everybody is today a professional and absolutely needs to run Solidworks (yearly license >$2500) and Photoshop (yearly $250 to $1000) at home.
>>722992830Amazing proton support guysOne day it will run properly, the next it won'tLinux will never be for gaming
>>722994773Vista and 8 were completely fine editions of windows and only brain damaged sheep echoing reddit sentiments believe otherwise.i might understand if you worked in enterprise and had issues with vista due to the driver stack changes, but as a personal user, there was nothing wrong with vista.
>>722994012Y'all gave your privacy up years ago, win7 was just as much spyware as 10 and 11 are now. This is the only safe version of Windows, period. OG OS REPRESENT!
>>722995130yeah no shitproton-ge is bleeding edge and you only really need it if you want to play the latest sloppa
Still not using linux lmao
>>722995130>Rely on Proton Experimental exclusively>"Wtf the experimental version is... experimental??????????? HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW???"
>>722995116>windows>yearly license ???????
>>722994964It's true. If you use a projector to put an image of his ex-wife in your living room it should keep you safe, I haven't had any problems ever since.
Friend tries to convince me to move to arch or some other hipster shit because rajeshsoft is rubbish and because he wants me to learn it for a project that we're going to be working on. How is gayming on Linux anyway?
>>722994740Are you asking because you have any interest in using Linux in the first place? Or do you just want to have a debate that ends with the goalposts eventually moving to "runs 100% of games"? If you have no desire to switch to a new operating system, then you might as well just assume the answer to all your questions is no. I mean if your only concern is having an OS that does what Windows does, nothing more and nothing less, then you wouldn't switch anyway because Windows is already Windows.
>>722995251I know social media has destroyed the reading comprehension of billions, but this is still embarrassing
Why doesnt Valve just build a steamOS that works and does everything windows can do minus the shit people don't care about? Why are they instead trying to push VR that no one actually cares about?
>>722992830I'll probably be sticking to 10 until I build a new computer in like 5 years
>>722995116Linux doesnt have shit for art programs
>>722995116Do people actually pay for software? I was always employed in small private companies and it was all pirated, even some of the hardware was stolen because the boss bought it from some shady guys for cheap and few months later police came
>>722995193ironisch‘ scheißposten is awl no scheißposten
>>722992830Time for Valve to come in and clean Microsofts clock. People want to play games, watch YouTube/twitch, and talk on discord. That's it. 99% of what windows offers is useless to me at best and downright malicious and nefarious at worst
>Consoles? heh, they're too plebeian and locked down, I'm a SMART gamer>Linux? AAAIIIEEEEEEEE THAT'S TOO COMPLICATED PLEASE SAVE ME BILL SAMA
Do they mean they removed the hidden regedit or cmd ways? Or just the option during the normal installer? Because the typical installer option has been gone for years already.I am already on Linux so whatever, but i still use windows in vm's for gaming, soI would still like the option in the future, but i guess i might have to forever migrate the vm i have now. But if they are getting this aggressive about it i guess they'll force accounts that are already local to sign in online eventually as well
>>722995408We aren't Indian
>>722995130Very few games actually require Proton Experimental despite all the midwits using it for every game. Proton 9.0 runs most games and isn't constantly changing. You're whining about a non-issue.
>>722992830The thing is that, if you don't use an online account and use a local one, your password can easily be cracked from NT Password Edit under just about any version of Hiren's Boot CD. Online accounts are the only workaround Microsoft has provided for this ancient exploit. Don't know how easy it is to script-kiddie a Linux password because I have not managed to get a 100% functional install on anything.
>>722995512Yes, they removed evey built in way to bypass it. You have to download a third party app now to get a local account.
>ReXPtards were bullied into submission and updated to 7>Re7ards were bullied into submission and updated to 10>Re10ards are being bullied into submission and updating to 11
>>722992830So if you don't have an internet connection, you can't even setup the operating system anymore?
>>722995174Sometimes the bait hurts.
>>722992830I play games on PC and Linux is not even remotely close to being a good replacement for Windows yet.
>>722995536>Don't know how easy it is to script-kiddie a Linux password because I have not managed to get a 100% functional install on anything.Pretty sure Linux passwords are very safe from the likes of (You) if this is the case
>>722993015samemy windows hd died and i was too lazy to reinstall + windows has become actually so jeeted its more annoying to use than linux somehowbeen daily driving arch for 2 yrs
>>722995575Damn that sucks, but the writing was on the wall for a long time already i guess
>>722995623Dumb cope.
>>722995536>if you don't use an online account and use a local onethe ideal future is not one where removal of the ethernet cable, or turning off the power to your wireless modem, leaves you unable to log into your computer.
>>722992830i am too stupid for linux
How does this make you feel, /v/?
>>722995616yes, they need to install their spyware and monitor you 24/7 it doesn't work when you're offline.
>>722995536That's the case for every OS. If you want security like that you have to use encryption.
you know what's absolutely maddening? people framing this in moral terms. like it's your responsibility now to buy a new computer every two years, like you buy a new mobile phone every two years, because something something hardware updates, something something security updates.
>>722995698mint is there for you anon
>>722993503>>722995705the moment the gloves came offinstall Mint btw
>>722995620I disagree. For new games I just press enter when I click the search bar on steams store page then I filter by steam deck compatibility. Anything that doesn't run I look up on protondb and barring that I refund. 9/10 times it just werks no issue
>>722995762but it cant games can it
>>722995705>renames it back to "My Computer"heh. nothing personnel, kid
>>722992830If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, Microsoft believes in diversity and so will you. It's no about an operating system it's a bout creating a more fair and sustainable future
All microsoft products and email services are backdoored, Microsoft cut off israeli access from spying on Palestinians using microsoft 365 etc. and overloading their azure servers with useless crap, they had to tell the jew no.
>>722995789depends on whether you want normalfag slop or actual videogames
>>722995791most loonix distros are just as gay
>>722995754Kek, I upgrade my PC more often than my phone.Why would I upgrade my phone when it works just fine?
>>722995850The closest thing to Gay™ in Linux Mint is that some of the default wallpapers have the color pink in them.
>>722992830I have a win11pro completely offline install I haven't updated in 2 years, will this fuck it up if I ever let this thing go on the Internet?
>>722995754Damn dude that's crazy I wouldn't know anything about that because I'm not dumbass consumer cattle
>>722995934The internet connection setting is only forced on this dev release channel, its not confirmed to be in the official release of the next windows 11 update. There is an easy work around even if it gets blocked by using a modified installer. The article is written by retards who think getting these installers on the dark web takes cyber hacking skills and invites into sekret sites.
>>722995174Windows 8 was aesthetically disgusting and that's what most of the complaints were about. It's a good OS in retrospect because things have gotten so horrible that "ew it looks like a tablet interface" seems like a silly complaint.
>>722995457I don't think anybody implies that Linux is too hard to use, even if you can assume that the average person would find that true.No, people imply that it's unusable and not fit for personal usage, at least for now, and they are right. Just because your Proton Experimental v.23.0.2.1.001 runs compatible games with an advantage of 2-3 frames per second compared to Windows does not make it a real alternative to Windows or MacOS. Come back when your audio drivers will stop randomly crashing every 2 hours.
>>722996056how rebellious! in a conformist kind of way
>>722996103My computer has been on for 5 days now and I'm still listening to music without a single crash.
>>722992830>*unless you have an Nvidia card, whopssssss teehee
>>722995536Oh no, not the hacker who breaks into my house to hack my PCBtw, my PC doesn't have any kind of password
>>722992830Couldn't be meJust updated to win 11 pro and I'm on local
>>722996189Notice how this seemed like worth mentioning. Yes, an operating system should operate without a single crash of any of its component, I agree. But that's not the reality of Linux for the majority.
>>722995648For me I realized I could mount my windows SSD within linux and have access to all my files. So I decided to try using my linux install (dualbooting with two separate ssds) for a week, and in the end I just never ended up going back to windows.
>>722996194ThisWho the fuck has their PC in a public space
I have to login with my Microsoft account to access my Play Anywhere games, so no skin off my ass.
>>722996103Not him but my audio drivers don't crash every 2 hours. In fact I haven't had audio problems on Mint since several major versions ago (around 2019), and even then it was occasional and not a regular thing. So you're basically telling him to come back immediately unless his system is more fucked up than mine ever was.
>>722995791they have an official 37 page ESG document you could download from their website btw lol (don't know if you still can)
>>722996365*scrapes some skin off your ass with a big fucking knife* haha bet you wish you'd upgraded to Windows 11 with Copilot™ now, bitch
>>722996267You literally asked him to come back when his audio doesn't crash every two hours. So he did.>HURR DURR WHY ARE YOU MENTIONING THAT MY ACCUSATION WAS MADE-UP? HOW EMBARRASSING FOR YOU
>>722996483Yes, I have, and I realize that it wasn't a fair argument. So what?
>>722992830They really removed local accounts? That's crazy. I'm currently on Windows 10 but have no idea what I'm going to use next as my OS.
>>722994934Yes, I just installed Windows 11 last week and I just picked "Domain join instead" and created a local account.Must be a Home Edition problem.
>>722996535>So what?So you lost.
>>722996267Ok retard. Just present the next goal post already.I already passed your 2 hours without audio driver crashing.
>>722996587I thought they discontinued the Hindi Special Education version
>>722996630I'm using Pro and it has the domain join option. You don't actually have to join a domain, it just makes a local account
>>722992830This isnt really minted at you, or me, or anyone here that has ever entered BIOS at least once in their lives. This is for the billions of end users who might have used windows for thirty years, but still need to be reminded what the Start menu is. Microsoft is fighting a war of accessibility against Apple in order to protect the user against themselves. Anyone here can make a W11 bootstick with Rufus and skip everything they don't like. The billions other users who only use Windows for familiy photos, reading news or only pressing "Play" in Steam can't be trusted to not run "totallylegitapplication.ru.exe" they got from pressing "Press here for Download!"
The solution for winfags is building your own ISO with microwin or windows LTSC. A monkey could do it.
>>722994731Which is why if you're not using a password generator, write them down or export them or something.
>Update deferred for 20 yearsIt's so fucking easy
>>722996716They disabled it entirely, why is it so hard for you botnetheads to understand this?
>>722995409I love it when you talk dirty to me
Somewhat related. I'm afraid to use DDU on my laptop in case it breaks the screen so I cant see anything.
>>722996806Why do you feel the need to comment about something you dont understand? Both of those boot options allow you to make a local account, disable copilot, or even get rid of defender at OS install.
>>722996806>They disabled it entirelyNo they did not. There's a million ways around it still. They disabled ONE command that people were using.They didn't disable audit mode, oobe unnattend, or domain joining.
>>722992830If you're not pirating the LTSC version, you deserve to have your computer be part of M$'s datamining botnet
>>722996692Those people don't even install an operating system. They just buy a computer. If they only wanted to protect idiots without restricting the freedom of experienced users, they could just enshittify OEM installs and leave the manually installed copies of Windows fully functional without the need for hacks.
>>722996806>botnetheadsdefinitely not mad. fairly freaking chill actually...
>>722996617https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html
>>722995372it does work, but it's not enough to make an os. you gotta get companies to write games for it.
>>722992830Time to switch to Linux after allEven for the lazy me
I used Xubuntu about 10 years ago as a daily driver OS after I learned you couldn't install Vista on HDDs larger than like 512gb. After 3 months, Firefox and Chrome would inexplicably crash, even with a single tab open. I kept getting notifications to download the latest updates for the OS, and the installer would crash too. Now, I'm having an issue with my Debian laptop that's refusing to download updates because the repositories are outdated. I know this can be fixed by simply installing a newer version of Debian, but an OS shouldn't require a fresh install every two years. I've never had this problem on my Windows PCs.
>>722993396Such as? I can play vermin/darktide, insurgency, SM2, and coh3 with Proton and those all have that gay anti-cheat shit. So far the only game that was a bitch was DoW2 because Feral's linux port was shit, worked fine with Proton. Really you can run almsot anything through steam using Proton, even random exes.
Not until steamOS for desktop
>>722996989>Those people don't even install an operating system. They just buy a computer.This. I still remember when my sister was having problems with Safari on her Macbook Pro not opening websites. She was running macOS Mavericks from 2013. I told her she should update to the latest OS and she said "oh, I don't have time for that!"Finally got her to update to the latest version and she was all "Oh! So that's how my friends text from their Mac!", "Oh! I can run the Netflix app now!", "Oh Facebook isn't complaining about my browser being out of date!" and so forth.Normalfags are unreal and I completely understand why Microsoft forces updates down people's throat.
>>722997169Relevance? I run unpatched Windows 7 and 10 machines. idgaf about your enterprise grade security shit.
>>722996838I thought Windows defaulted to the basic display driver in the absence of targeted drivers, so this won't be an issue?
i used arch linux for a good while but theres some games i play with my irl buddies that linux doesnt like, and i like playing with friends. i just use 11 ltsc with a modded taskbar/start menu and call it a day, i give up on ricing my machine
>>722997273>Not until steamOS for desktopWhat the fuck is taking so long anyway
>>722994742Literally any version of Linux using the KDE interface.
>>722997273Not happening. SteamOS was built specifically for the steamdeck and proton. It will never be for general desktop use because Valve doesnt want to deal with the headache of various hardware configurations. The steamdeck is standardized and therefore easy to maintain.
>>722996193Thats on nujudea not linux
>>722997340>I run around naked, wild and free, look at how childish one can be!Okay, the idea here is that serious people interested in Linux want it to be a serious system that's up to the modern industry standards. That's not the case, even if you "harden" it it still pales in comparison to old Android phones.
>>722997384
I thought they already did that a long time ago. The last time I had to installed Windows 11 was at work for a fully airgapped machine and I had to start the install, enter a key press to bring up a terminal enter some cheat code, and restart the machine, then do a sequence to allow a local account.
>>722995705>My Computer>This Personal Computer
>>722994740>art programs and drawing tabletsNot enough context.>How about my emulatorsYes.>new gamesDepends? Are they singleplayer? Then yes. If they're multiplayer, then maybe.
>>722994742Q4OS is a Debian-based distro that's exactly what you're looking for. I installed it on my folks' aging AIO PC and it's pretty fast, even if it's installed on an HDD.
>>722994670>>722994893XP was abandoned because the 32 to 64 bit jump was a neccesary evil.7 quite literally still works, none of the "new" "technology" introduced was meaningful enough for a version bump.>muh dx12backported to 7 by microsoft themselves for specific companies with money (blizzard)many user made workarounds too>muh anticheatsabritrary lockouts in the same way they arbitrarily lock linux users out despite the game itself working>muh chromeyes, we know google is a monopolistic control freakstill works btw https://github.com/win32ss/supermiumI moved from 7 to Linux last year, all of you who willingly ate up 10slop deserve this future.None of you have an ounce of self control and will cave to 11, then 12, then whatever else microshaft shoves down your throat.If you simply said "no" and stuck to 7, we wouldn't be in this mess.
>>722997227Every big AAA multiplayers of the likes of BF6 don't workValorant too
>>722997443i believe theyre waiting for nvidia to fix their drivers (dx12 performance is still bugged)
>>722995705They literally did this because they changed the font and it made it so My Computer ended up on two lines.Also you can change it to whatever name you want.
>>722994740Art and tablet stuff is still ass, can confirm. However, emulators work better than windows so I'm not sure why you think they're a sticking point.
Is clicking "domain join instead" that hard?
>>722997595Hot damn, that is exactly what I wanted. Cheers, anon.
>>722992830So long as they don't remove my current local account I'll survive until the next update after this one
>>722997612Sorry anon, I just don’t care to play operating systemLinux is for people that like to tinker and I just want the OS to just be a vessel for everything else I do
>>72299772599% of home users use the gimped home edition and cannot join domains or apply group policies.
>>722997691>tablet stuffuse GNOME
>>722997725>removes it in a silent updateOops!
>>722992830The goycattle will make accounts like the good little servants they are.
>>722997669You can believe that but it's not going to happen. Valve will not do it, it's not something they are interested in. They will build another version of steamOS for the deck 2 in however long but it will never be a desktop release for the reason I mentioned.
>>722997821And how does a DE make my Wacom tablet work?
>>722997828And alienates their biggest clientele? Not likely. Microsoft will never remove domain joining from Pro/Enterprise versions, they're the only people who actually pay for Windows.
>>72299780699% of home users don't care about having to use their Microsoft account and policy shit. I'm talking about the people in this thread, I would hope they're not retarded enough to be using the home edition of windows still
I officially made the transistion from XP to Linux well over a decade ago and only did an install of 10 on my desktop for the sake of my sanity because its not worth the effort of spending hours for work arounds for a program that I'll use a handful of times or a few games on a locked down platform like steam anyway
>>722997870gnome is just better for tablets and laptops. it won't fix incompatibility issues at the kernel level though.
>>722997974I bought an upgrade copy of Windows 7 Home back in 2009 to upgrade my XP Home PC. I've never given Microsoft a cent since. Free update to 10 Home and then 11 Home, all from that one 7 Home key.Fuck Pro. Waste of money.
>>722997487Android phones are locked down walled garden shitware devices. Utter muppet. You're not a serious person. You're a loser who plays video games all day and probably doesn't even have a job so don't come here on a high horse pretending you care about "enderprise grade industry standard security", whatever that means to you.I've run a web server for over 20 years so I'm familiar with auditing security and vulnerability profiles for my systems. I don't give a fuck about the security vulnerabilities if they can't be exploited. Oh no, my hard drives don't have LUKS wtf am I gonna do when people break into my home and take all my shit!
>>722998016A Wacom tablet is not a tablet PC. They don't have Linux drivers.
>>722992830Microsoft has been removing local account setup from the Windows installation for what feels like a decade. It's as if they don't actally remove it at all...
>>722994903>Vista is just 7It literally isn't and this retarded lie propagated by zoomers vexes me.
>>722997942>And alienates their biggest clientele? Not likely. Microsoft will never-release an OS with shitty driver support-allow OEMs to slap '-capable' stickers on absolute garbage-mandate hardware updates for an OS version-telemetry-'something happened'-xboxsurely they'd never make stupid decisions????
>>722998046Massgrave helps you continue that trend
>>722998160Name the big difference if you're so knowledgeable then.
>>722994903>Windows 8 is basically no different from 7Holy shit you really are retarded KYS at your earliest convenience
Paused updates for 20 years just in case.
>>722998169None of those decisions were ever relevant to the enterprise market, though, which is the only thing MS cares about in terms of Windows as a product.
>>722998160It literally is. Vista is NT 6.0. 7 is just NT 6.1.8 is just NT 6.2 and 8.1 is NT 6.3.Same way XP (NT 5.1 and 5.2) was just 2000 (NT 5.0) with a new skin.
>>722998046even if you're not giving microsoft money, you're still using their software, viewing their ads, talking about windows online, using windows based games... all this affects microsoft and their brand which you support indirectly.
>>722997273Valve themselves said its not happening. You can run steamOS for desktop, but it won't ever be designed for desktop use.
>>722992830I would if I could play multiplayer games with anticheat
>>722998230It's not. Go into Desktop mode and it's identical except it has flat square title bars instead of glassy curved ones.
>>722998276This is how Microsoft prevents the driver apocalypse of Windows Vista.
>>722992830It's an easy jump if you don't play normiecore, been doing it for years. you can even get {$WEEBQUEST12} to run with some form or proton/wine. the golden age is now
>>722998061>clicks on the wrong link by accident>PC is now infected with malwareWow.To a Linuxtard this must be good though. Yet another reason to rice his KDE pedo loli anime setup.
>>722998314Yes, we live in a society. You are very smart.
>>722998115I just plugged in this thing, opened Krita and started drawing ugly stick figure man. It worked fine, even pressure sensitivity.
>>722998276God damn I have to share a board with you retards.
They cant force me to move to win11, right?
>>722998473They can. Just like they force installed 10 on millions of 7 and 8 PCs overnight and got sued out the ass for it
>>722992830I'm playing GTA V on Leenucks right now. This meme that Linux can't play games makes no sense to me. I think the only game I had to refund for not working was some Forza slop and it was because M$'s game studio was too incompetent to use long path aware code. I could have manually fixed it, but fuck them.
>>722997669If we extrapolate from the current situation Nvidia drivers are never going to be fixed. The kernel is getting locked down from them and won't be opened up until they start contributing to the kernel.
>>722992830I'm afraid to install Linux and the games I'm currently playing not running well…
>>722998512So linux mint is the the most user-friendly, right?
>>722998516>This meme that Linux can't play games makes no sense to me.GTA V is over 12 years old. No shit it can run on anything.Show me Battlefield 6 on Linux RIGHT. NOW.
The main reason I don't jump to linux is I have a bunch of random bullshit niche programs that would be a nightmare to work with it. If I just played video games and youtube all day and nothing else I'd swap in a heartbeat.
>>722998269nobody mentioned the enterprise market. still, why not ask yourself why you apparently have to install the business edition to use what i'm assuming is your home PC
>>722998473Correct. You can move to Linux, and they cannot force you to stay on Windows and accept the otherwise mandatory upgrade.
>>722997641Why would you buy that fucking retardo?
>>722998460Is this what Linux is? A fucking DOS-looking text adventure?Nah, I'm too normalfag for that. I need icons to click.
>>722998530if you use amd and don't play multiplayer games with online cheat you'll be fine. nvidia has some performance loss and anti cheat games actively block linux for now. feel free to check protondb for specific game information.
>>722998369Have you tried not downloading malware? The last time I downloaded malware I didn't explicitly intend to download and run was when Windows XP was the latest hotness and at that time my system was fully up to date with the latest patches. The malware still pwned it.
>>722998464No, I have to share it with (You).At a kernel level, Windows has not significantly changed since Vista. 7 is just Vista with some small UI tweaks and a new set of built in programs instead of re-using XP's.
>>722998626don't sign your posts
>>722998473They keep trying to trick me into upgrading on my minipc but i just pull the plug if there's no clear way to exit the window
>>722998658>pwnedNow that's a term I haven't heard in a long time.
>>722994740>>722997691I highly doubt Linux doesn't support tablets in general sensitivity and such, mine even has a page for drivers.
>>722998578linux mint is the most windows 7 like distro. it's old and it's really not what you'd consider a modern system. use bazzite for gaming. latest kernel, latest drivers and latest software packages.
>>722998658And Linux is still behind it, almost 25 years later. SAD!
>>722998627You do have buttons and icons to click but when you need to look under the hood you do some of the time need the terminal.
>>722998668>7 is just Vista with some small UI tweaks and a new set of built in programsNo, it's not. You are lying.
>>722992830>playing video games on a server OS
>>722998230Calm down unc, this isn't/g//v/ermins probably think w8 and w8.1 are twins
>>722995174vista is the worst windows experience I've had as a personal user, I barely remember eight at this point but they were really going all in on those tiles/panel applications thinking they were gonna be the big new way users would be interacting with their system, but they weren't so half the UI was kinda just there or awkwardly hanging around, if you ever got into those sections for those panels all you'd be thinking was how to get out of there as soon as possible and get back to what you actually wanted
I cant believe windows is literally forcing me to just the tranny linux community
>>722998580Why? I don't play shitty ass multiplayer shooters anymore. Literally every single one has cheaters and the forced match making is designed to put you into a state of maximal engagement with some cosmetic bullshit slop thrown in. Fuck off. Next thing you're going to say is you play League like some subhuman too.
>>722998740Look under the hood means copypasting shit from the internet and hoping that it fixes your problem while not breaking something else.
>>722998754>Running game>Boot screenwut
>>722998627No? That's just the kernel log that shows which devices are connected and when. Windows would be a lot less shit if it had actually usable logs. Trying to debug hardware issues and system failures using Windows logs is such a shitshow, they are so unhelpful.>>722998731From a user security perspective? No. Windows is massively behind because all Windows accounts are admin and running as a non-admin user is impossible. It's very easy for malware to run full privileges on Windows and escalate privileges.
>>722998772They are, there's no difference.
>>722998898>Windows is massively behind in securitythere's a reason why every server is hosted on linux these days.
>>722998641I have a 5700x3d and an rx 6600, I'm currently playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Nier Automata, Metaphor, Expedition 33 and Lies of P, will they run on Linux the exact same way they do on Windows without issues?
>>722998627Good news:
>>722998894early on absolutely, but as you get experience you do that less and less
>>722998896That's not a boot screen, that's just pacman running in tty. It has nothing to do with video games either way.
>>722998896>linuxlet can't tell the package manager sperging out from the boot screenSasuga the new generation of linooooox powerusers.
>>722998993Cute cat :^)
>>722995174*8.1
>>722995193>win7 was just as much spyware as 10 and 11 are nowThat's certainly what microsoft wants you to believe so more people switch to 11, yes.
>>722999003>audio has another stroke>well, having used linux for a decade now, i will not google the problem and just debug alsa myselfSure thing, anon.
>>722998754>>722999030>>722999034>Could not resolve host>Could not resolve host>Could not resolve host>Could not resolve host>Could not resolve hostMaybe connect to the internet before downloading packages.>"But what if I have no internet connection?!" ― Man currently using the internet
>>722999030>>722999034Oh my bad, I thought I was something like pic related from far away lol
>>722992830They'd never do that to ltsc and that's the only edition that matters.
>>722999030Linux in general has nothing to do with video games. :3
>>722999291Literally playing a video game on it right now.
>>722998898If you're really godly and understand windows, you can do a lot without ever using admin. The biggest limitation will be how shit the programs you run, are. Even at my current work I was able to tard wrangle some shitty software that uses the dogshit OLE and COM shit and registered them into HKCU just fine once I dug hard enough. My biggest gripe with windows is that basic shit like namespacing, like you have with Linux, is basically non-existent outside of "server" workloads using docker and you have to make sure you pick the right bloated base container image because windows didn't have stable syscall numberings til recently. Also yes, I have run Windows kubernetes nodes and know what I'm doing.
>>722999326Post a screenshot then.Make this thread finally about video games.
>>722999261>can't tell auth issues apart from connection issuesLMAO. YEAR OF LINOOOX DESKTOP ANY SECOND NOW.
Can I play modded gatchaslop on linux? Asking for a fiend
>>722999451>having auth issuesDidn't happen on my Linux Mint machine so he must have actively broken something like an idiot.
>I won't upgradebased>I'm on win10 btwretard
>>722998993>transparent task barheathen
FAILCÜCKS KEEP CRYING, SAY SAD MAD AND BADOHOHOHOHOHOHO THEY CAN'T JUST GET ENOUGH OF GETTING RAPED IN THE ASS WITH AIDS OH NO NO NO NO NOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STAY LOSERS WINCÜCKIES HAHAHAHAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NVtg1tkgSQSIT THE FUCK DOWN HAHAHAHAHA
Seems a lot of you should just stick with windows.
>>722999623It will. :3
Bros is there any W11 ISO or guide that removes most of the bloated shit? any spoonfeeder
>>722993312For the last time, Linux is idiot proof. You can install arch and run literally anything out of the box that does not require kernel goy access. Nvidia GPUs work fine, you don't need the terminal and the UI can look just like Wangblows but better. If you encounter problems you will easily find everything you need on Google compared to the absolute shit show Windows is. Makes me livid when people pretend troubleshooting windows is easy. It's just much much worse.
>>722999735https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutilUse this and follow the steps to make a microwin usb
>>722995408Illegitimate versions of commercial software will watermark the shit you make. If you ever need to work with another company, or use hardware or software that also utilizes those files, you will be found out and sued.They have partnerships with other companies, and will rat you out if they catch your business using pirated shit.
>>722999693Yeah they start crying like women when in fucking 2009 you clicked on firefox rather than internet explorer.They think adblockers are sexist, racist and antisemitic.
>>722999653Use case for covering the bottom 40-ish pixel rows of my desktop background?Very sad that Transparent Panels is literally the only good extension on Cinnamon Spices, by the way.
>>722998898Thanks for reminding how fucking bad ETW is. I feel like Windows is just a bloated E N T E R P R I S E mess where you have to twiddle with 50 different knobs to get anything useful where Linux is basically so half assed and no nonsense, you can just check printk buffer and get the answers you want immediately. Hell, you get the source code of your Linux kernel from your upstream distro, add some patches, throw in some printk's (to be fair, you could impl a fake FS like some drivers do) and start debugging. Half assed? Yes. Just works and no nonsense? Very much yes. I fucking hate Windows and nonfree software.
No.
>>722999765>Nvidia GPUs work fineNo they really don't lol
>>722999765>Wangblows
>>722995705You vill ovvn nossing und you vill ze happy
>>722997673totally not a subtle change to show you no longer own your pc
>>722999198i'm an intermediate user and i don't have audio problems, over time you learn how to avoid common linux challenges. when you start out there lots of pitfalls. i use linux for multimedia and dev work at home and have no issues while also playing games from time to time.
>>7229946708.1 was always better than 7, tech illiterates just shit themselves over metro in 8.0
>>722999765How do I install Arch?
>>722999824My brain is too small for git but i will try
>>722999869Does the bottom left menu and calendar/tray on the right get covered to, or are they always on top? I have browser widgets in those corners.
>>72299903490% of loons only use their PC for shitposting and telling people to use Linux.
>>722996098It was identical to 10 outside of the start menu. Live tiles was objectively a good thing even though you don't need to look at the start menu (push start button, search, hit enter) >>722998825You're thinking of 8.>>7229990608.1 brought back the start button. Windows doesn't need a start button.
>>722999995Yes, anon, been there, much more advanced than you. And eventually, you'll get a new PC, install Windows on it and wonder why the fuck you were using Linooox in the first place. See you in a 5 years.
>>722992830I switched to Arch over a year ago. Now I'm having nightmares where I alt-tab and somehow Windows 11 comes back, takes over my PC and starts installing an update.
>>722998825I said eight
>>722999198Audio subsystems are my FAVORITE linux shitpost
>>723000048All you have to do is launch the program by right clicking on your windows icon, clicking Terminal (Admin), copy pasta the code, and then go to the last tab and follow the instructions.It's easy Anon I believe in you
>>722999869how often are you staring blankly open-jawed at your computer desktop, head empty no thoughts doing nothing at all
>>722993614Share it with meAlso would fusion 360 work with it? Literally the only reason I may end up moving to win11, for fucking work.
>>722992830Can't use photoshop>NOOO USE THE FOSS VERSION WITHOUT ANY OF THE USEFUL FEATURESCan't play league or tft or valorant>NOOO MUH HECKIN KERNEL LEVEL ANTI CHEAT AND THOSE ARE NORMALFAG GAMES ANYWAYSorry not an incelfix these and ill consider it
I dislike Linux because everything surrounding it stinks of "poverty", everything is free and made by the community, it's too decentralized. I wanna use an OS that's made by an actual company with renowned employees developing it and not an OS developed by a bunch of hobbyists on their basements.
>>723000118i run windows at the office and on two house mini pcs. even with it-managed workstations on the job there are tons of issues. i guarantee i run a wider range of use cases at home than you do
>>723000198fuck meant for >>723000107
>>723000292Holy fuck please kill yourself
>>723000093The panel is always on top of windows and only full-screen applications go on top of the panel, but of course you can set the panel to auto-hide or move it to a different edge of the screen (top or either side). I think you can also have no panel if you're a maniac. Or you can move all the panel's things to the center area of the panel if you're a sociopath.
>>722999765>Linux is idiot proof.Wrong>You can install arch and run literally anything out of the box that does not require kernel goy access.Wrong>Nvidia GPUs work fineWrong>you don't need the terminalWrong>and the UI can look just like Wangblows but better.Half correct>If you encounter problems you will easily find everything you need on Google compared to the absolute shit show Windows is.Wrong>Makes me livid when people pretend troubleshooting windows is easy. It's just much much worse.They're both equally bad when it comes to troubleshooting
>>723000307Look what those companies are doing to you now
>>723000292No one has to fix anything for you, cuck. Enjoy your adware nonsense. Remember to upgrade your OneDrive subscription so it doesn't delete all your files.
Clippy would never spy on you.Clippy doesn't mind you own things.Clippy likes you and only wants to help.Clippy doesn't care what you post.Clippy doesn't want to eavesdrop on what you say to your friends.Clippy doesn't care whether you're rich or poor, popular or a loser.Clippy thinks you shouldn't eat bugs.Clippy just wants to help you.Clippy no simpy.
>>722997384People have been dualbooting Linux for years due to games breaking and now we have 3 slop games refusing to work on Linux and people just use Windows. The world deserves to die.
>>723000292Don't forget>can't use ms office>but you can just use libreoffice senpai>receive a file, edit it, send it back, everything looks like shit on the recipients pcEvery time.
>>722992830Linux is for people who like to use non-proprietary software, not for people who enjoy computing with state of the art machines. Is Linux good? It's great. Is Linux better than Windows? By many margins. Is Linux actually going to develop alongside mobile technology? Of course not. It's going to be an operating system first, before it becomes an ARM.
>>723000204I hate poettering I hate poettering
>>723000307I'm sure the future where Windows becomes subscription based feels 'natural' to you, little retard.
This isn't going to retroactively affect existing local accounts, right?
>>723000351Neither windows is idiot proof, tell that to the thousands upon thousands of women who paid me 100 bucks because they had a 300gb bin that hasn't been emptied since 2016 and were wondering why their cursor was being laggy when moving on the screen.
>>723000423Face it chud, no one wants to enter the bios to switch OS just to play a game. Make it work like windows or no install.
>>723000496COME GET YOUR BINARY LOGS
>>722997870Arch kernel has build-in support. AUR also has a couple of legacy packages. Never had any issues with my Wacom.
>>723000451Let's not kid ourselves.It looks like shit on libreoffice, too.
>>723000373faggot who probably reinstalled his os 3 times in the past year lecturing people about losing filesoh im laffin
>>723000307This. I want my OS devloped by renowned indians. I will not touch an OS that was not developed by people who consume cow dung.
>>723000493>Linux is for people who like to think they're better than other people because they use "non-proprietary software"ftfy
>>723000316>even with it-managed workstationslmfao, how nu r u, anon? "IT-managed workstations" run like dogshit all the time lol
>>723000451Not linux's problem, can be fixed in 3 months, multitrillion dollar company vs 100 hobbyists in a garage.An os that can run elden ring you think can't run an excel file? Learn to read and write before you speak.
>>723000571I haven't had to reinstall once since 2017 on Fedora and I've upgraded to every release with no issues. My VPS is the same story. kys cuckold.
>>723000648>is a beta tester for free for ibmyou have no room to talk down on wingods kek
You can always circumvent telemetry on Windows.There's nothing you can do about troonix being an OS for hobbyists that falls apart if you look at it the wrong way.
>>723000551You don't need to enter the bios, you just need one click.
>>722998981Dunno about FF but they work for me without issues.
>>723000553Who is the bigger asshole on shithub? Poettering or that head retroarch nigga?
>>723000610Well yeah, it is for people who think they're better than the average user. People like that often consume just as much porn, music and pirated television as anyone else, but their operating systems load the files .400ms faster, so I guess that's a definable margin of performance.
>>723000619Ya... >at work>try and run make style build system>-J %allofthecores%>runs like it's single core>debug>global anti malware hook cripples process spawningamazing.
>>723000641>linux users proving once again that they lack basic reading comprehension It's incredible that you can even work a computer.
>>723000719Pressing a function key at boot and then selecting the OS is two clicks actually.Regardless it interrupts the flow of a normal boot and requires extra effort. Aint nobody want that. Do you realize how lazy and retarded most people are?
>>723000836>It's incredible that you can even work a computer.Wow, really making some bold assumptions there, friend.
>>723000710>wingodsYou're a fucking cuck. Don't @ me again. Make sure to say hi to your Dravidian MCSE bvll.
Why are Linux users so combative and pushy?I updated to 11 and it's the same thing as 10 more or less. Explain to me why I'm supposed to be angry about this.
>>722992830i actually just deleted my fedora partition i dual booted into because seriously, what the hell is the point when there are so many tools and methods that remove all the stupid shit from windows? i know default windows sucks hard but i fixed it so i havent even seen stuff like le ads in le start menu in years. its all the upsides and none of the downsides or struggles that come with linux
>>723000750Can you guarantee they will work for me though?
>>722994670>vista: high system requirements for the time, hardware compatibility issues, terrible drivers, slow as fuck, buggy, more UAC, worse UI, lacking features compared to XP, widely hated>W11: high system requirements, hardware compatibility issues, terrible drivers, slow as fuck, buggy, more UAC, worse UI, lacking features compared to W10, widely hated
>>723000619>lmfao, how nu r u, anon? so new that i don't have audio problems at home
>>723000204I only have to restart pipewire occasionally because of no audio now, I'd say that's a big improvement.
>>723000792My favorite part is how said malware took down the global economy for days and no one batted an eye.
>>722999894Never had any issues at all with both offficla and unofficial drivers. Performance was fine. Even Wayland worked after some fixing.>>723000351>completely wrong>no arguments at all
>>723000869Then all the PCs I've seen are weird because it automatically sent you to the select screen every time (could be disabled later).
>>723000971Pipewire's biggest sin is making it so that I can no longer shitpost about pulseaudio and alsa.
>>722998627Linux is *mostly* GUI now. I say mostly because regardless of what any shills tell you, you will still have to open up the terminal and fuck around with stuff quite often. Usually because its faster, but also sometimes you are given no choice.
>>723000451>installing a local copy of officeMS office has had webapps for all of their programs for at least 8 years now.
>>723000943>Why are Linux users so combative and pushy?Bitter from years of Windows users being combative whenever someone is even suspected of gaming on Linux.
Last time I used Linux, every program I installed would then refuse to open without proving I had a license for them.
>>722999765No it isn't lmao. It is less idiot proof than windows ltsc and will continue to be till valve assumes direct control of fucking thing and tardwrangle fosstrannies into unification.
>>723000915Right, he's probably considering his android shitphone to be a "high end linux workstation".
>Windows 7 support is ending, now you have to switch to linux!>No>F-FUCK!!!!! Uuuhhh uuhhhhh, windows 10 support is ending, now you HAVE to switch to linux!!!!!!>No>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKKK
>>722994670only difference now is I literally can't upgrade to 11 with my hardware.
>>723000982I just don't understand it. Legitimately at work yesterday, I got msedge.exe to crash just by rapidly clicking the back button. I know M$ jeets are shit, but I doubt this was because of M$ and probably some DLL hooking from said anti-malware. It's fucking insane. I hate these disgusting subhumans who make this fake and gay security shit.
>>723001093>Last time I used Linux, every program I installed would then refuse to open without proving I had a license for them.Can someone decipher this babble and tell me whether he's misunderstanding an actual thing on Linux or just having some kind of schizo delusion?
All you need to do is to sign up with a Microsoft account, then once on the desktop you create a local account, make it admin, switch over to it and delete the Microsoft account. There you go, a local only Windows 11.I'm tired of Microsoft's shit, so I'm on Arch these days.
>>723000571>losing files>when reinstalling LinuxProof that Windows users have become so retarded by using that posOS that they cannot fathom the existence of / and home.
>>723001070I think it's great that you can game on linux fine enough and this in turn is driving down some hardware prices of handhelds like the eck but I wouldn't use it as my main desktop os
>>723001093Why lie on the internet where it's extremely fucking easy to get caught?
>>723000964>>vista: high system requirements for the time, hardware compatibility issues, terrible drivers, slow as fuck, buggy, more UAC, worse UI, lacking features compared to XP, widely hatedThe irony here is most of these issues applied to XP for quite a while as well and yet retards jerk off to XP for some reason. And, same as with XP, Vista actually became a perfectly usable OS after software and hardware manufacturers caught up.I still remember when XP came out endlessly hearing people claim they were "never going to stop using Win98SE" and that XP was "complete shit".
>>722995036No. Enterprise editions will never get rid of local accounts, especially LTSC since it is made for ultra specific devices with peak stability in mind. Some of which never even connect to the internet.For better or worse, microsoft will always have to have at least one no-bs version of windows.
>>723000970That's very ironic, but it probably flew way over your head.
>>723000962You have a similar setup like me. I would give it a 90% chance.
>>723001093Last time I used it, installing verified software from the distro's own package manager corrupted my drivers and required me to format and reinstall the entire system.
I just hate how I'm forced to use Windows because of professional programs.Specially those from Autodesk and Carrier. The games that I play? All work on Linux.But a program used to calculate the cooling/heating loads of a HVAC system? Fuck you.Worse yet I live in a third world country with inflated as fuck currency so I make less than even MC Donalds wagie in the US so money is somewhat an issue.
>>723001069Tell me you suck at office without telling me.
>>723001096Explain yourself than Windows cuck. I just run shit in terminal and look at the log. What do you do when shit doesn't work in windows?
>>723001158We use rust at work and for silly reasons I am currently using a 2.6ghz quad core laptop. On windows 10. With zscaler. Running rust in wsl2.My sprint goal is to finish compiling another of of the 500 compilation units in this project.Fucking VIM grinds to a halt. You know you're in trouble when vim feels like vscode.
>>723001227>only i am allowed to make easily fallible arguments against your os, not youi dont use onedrive and you can use an external drive or vps with windows. hope this helps :)
>>723001363If you can't code your own HVAC software you have no business using linux in the first place.
>>723001234Dwell on the past, sure. Things are different now and hardware has been rolled up, protocols homoginized. Might as well use Jeetnix, at least you can choose what to update and when.
>>723001394>when shit doesn't work in windows?I can't remember the last time this happened
>>723000493>>723000493>NASA, Facebook, Google, ChatGPT, most of super computers, the majority of the internetYeah they just like old, outdated stuff, they never lead in computing research or anything, right?
>>723001363Have you tried running it in wine? We run our windows native financing suite from the mid 90s through wine. You just have to BELIEVE
>>723001394>What do you do when shit doesn't work in windows?You google if any of the billion windows users had the same problem.
Stallman is Jewish and Torvalds is a woke leftist and half of all linux desktop screenshots make me suspect a tranny user so im just gonna stick to windows
>>723001267you can call me dumb, but that proves my point. if i can run it, anyone can
The fact most the responses ITT to anons pointing out legitimate edge case issues with linux is just "lol don't use it then chud" is why the OS will never see widespread adoption. If you want people to us your OS you need to actually address legitimate complaints.I can't force game devs to remove anti cheat, as much as I wish I could. So either figure it out, or stop telling people to switch, only to get mad when they don't.
>>722993015Why did he become such a fag? Was it really his brainwashed daughter threatening to cut contact?
>>722992830Man, I really have no fucking choice, do I? I'll just keep using W10 until Steam doesn't run it anymore.
>>723001402Ya I write throwaway IT shit code in Rust because using the windows crate + extras doesn't trigger the retarded smartscreen bullshit unlike literally any .NET C# program I make I don't have to ship a runtime or target ancient shitty ass .NET 4.X.The anti-malware drastically reduces the performance of rust-analyzer and both debug and release builds have the exact same build times because of the anti-malware. It's absolutely hilarious and insane.
>>723000970>needing to do any of this gay shit for audio to workWe need to start a charity to buy Windows for all of these poor souls, anons.
>>723001524>If you want people to us your OSLinux was better before all the retards flocked to it.Now its not wine. its proton. Arch linux? Whats that I use steamos. Winetricks? Native vs builtin dlls? Idk like I use proton-ge.
>>722995847This is always the issue with linuxfagsPeople just wanna boot up their games with no issues and if they can't, linuxfags dismiss it by saying the game isn't worth playing anyway
>>723001402>VIMThere's your bloat, bro. Should have just used vi.
>>723001646I use Linux Mint and I don't know what any of that shit is, and my audio just works.Please don't buy me a copy of Windows.
>>722992830who cares, people are still using XP, nevermind 7.
>>722997641Someone post him the image of the guy that got called 100 times in a week because cod 6 was frying the fucking bios (how do you even manage to pull that off?) of their pc.>valorantOh you're mentally ill and think cum is the only food available, my apologies.
>>722993503Kek
What some fags don't seem to get is that there is no reason to get rid of Windows 10.11 only exists to restrict (even more than 10 already did) you and adds shit like even more telemetry. 11 adds nothing that 10 couldn't already do, except take away even more control from you.>forced updates IMMEDIATELY, can't delay them like in 10>even more spyware shit>no local account, workarounds are getting harder and harder to do>you (officially) NEED new hardware to use it>they outright lied about 10 being the "last version of windows"That's why this time is different than before. Everyone has their limit, 10 was mine. It took me 2-3 years to switch from 8.1, and only because I could tweak 10 to my liking still, 11 is ACTIVELY trying its best to prevent any of that.
>>723001646if you know what that is, you know it's a stress test. if i can run audio in a game, a daw and an nle all at the same time there are no excuses anymore
>>723001524>Google legitimate windows issues >top results are all worthless normie tard wrangling >Google Linux issues>top results are usually usefulI don't want retards using Linux desu.
>>723001661Well yes, when the game installs a kernel level rootkit I'd say it's not worth playing
>>723001650Linux was always the gay college kid OS.
>>723001394>What do you do when shit doesn't work in windows?Nothing, because that barely fucking happens. I'm sorry that Linux is such an incredibly volatile piece of shit that you think things breaking is the norm, but that isn't the case for Windows or even fucking OSX.
>>723001676ed is the standard editor, bloat-kun, and the least bloated.
>>723001838>barelyFuck it anon. Why even couch it at that point? If you're gonna lie may as well go all out.
>"Bro Linux is easy bro just try it">Install Linux>Now you have to learn how to use the terminal>Now you have to learn the Linux command line>Now you have to learn how to use Emacs>Now you have to learn C>Now you have to learn how the kernel works>Now you have to learn the Steam programming language for when a game doesn't work>Now you have to learn how to use Winetricks>Ok, after all that everything will work fine without issues, right? Wrong because every single issue you find will have a different solution, most of them extremely obscure where you have to either be a Linux expert to solve or search for hours on the internet for solutions until you find the one that works for youHaha, no thanks, I learned my lesson the first time I installed Poonux.
>>723001915For the first time ever, I experienced a blue screen last week. And I have never experienced a blue screen before on any windows version.Cope fag.
>>723001915after using windows for 10 years i don't even register when shit breaks anymore. windows can't delete the file? that's perfectly normal. windows forces one drive? perfectly normal. windows has full screen ads? it's christmas, windows ain't a commie OS.
Not using Linux because I pirate ALL MY GAMES and I don't knowif those pirated versions will work there.Admittedly the only game I play is Stellaris and a certain indie card game.
>>723001803Well yeah. That's why people are fearmongering about software dropping support for Windows 10 already (>>722966884) despite the fact that Steam officially supported Windows 7 until the end of 2023 and it still kept working for some time after that. If you're not afraid of that, maybe you'll be afraid of not getting security updates? Well if that fails then they switch from fear tactics to shame tactics and accuse you of having something to hide (while simultaneously claiming there's no new spyware of course).
>>723000351Nvidia works just fine now. 2012 and the whole "Fuck you Nvidia" middle finger thing was 13 years ago, old man.
These threads always make me feel like opening the door to the cafeteria to a old people day care. Why do so many millennialoomers think they are tech wizards because of having nostalgia for their first OS?Only reason I didn't swap to 11 yet is that I am too lazy to buy a new SSD before.
>>723002051You know you can just test them? They should all work with GE-Proton
>>723002051Linux doesn't care if you paid for a game. If the pirated copy is so differently from a purchased copy that it makes the difference between Wine running it and not running it, write a bug report asking the Wine developers to implement whatever obscure malware came in that repack. They'll do it, too, because even viruses not working in Wine is seen as a bug.
>>72300211311 is honestly pretty great. not perfect, but i like it more than 10 or 7
>>723002051>add non-steam game to steam>set to launch with proton>????>profit
>>723001915I've experienced one whole bluescreen on Windows. I haven't even gotten a single virus, a broken driver install, or anything like that.Under Linux I've experienced undeletable files, repeated incomplete installs, corrupting drivers, memory leaks in basic desktop environment functions, repeated complete system failures, and more.I didn't even push my Linux desktop as hard as my fucking Windows one, and it was doing that with default fucking software.
>>723001069>web appsThey are (intentionally) behind the desktop versions in terms of feature support. If you want an actual cross-platform office suite without any kind of under-the-hood fuckery, Google docs/sheets/slides is the only way to go at the moment.t. know some people on the office team at MS
>>722998115Tried it on linux mint just now, works plug and play, no need to install anything
>>723001945>"Bro Windows is easy bro just try it" >Install Windows>Now have to learn what incantations to disable the shitty OOBE screens and make a local account >Now have to learn CIM, WMI, cscript, vbscript, cmd.exe, (Windows) Powershell, .NET and 100s of shitty DOS tier command line tools just to fully use the command line(s) in Windows>Still have to learn C++/Win32 because the above will not cover every use case, even from .NET still need P/Invoke for basic API accessFuck off. Wincucks like you are just consumers. I could go on but I'm already mad typing up what I did. Linux is a fuckload easier to use all around.
>>722992830So how do you set up Windows 11 without an internet connection?
>>723001838Ahaha disingenuous kike.
>>723002317you tell microsoft you're a child so they can't legally force you to create an account (this actually works)
>>723001464>bleeding edge r&d and science uses hyperspicialized linux specifically molded to their exact needs and specifications by people on the payrollHow is that applicable to casual end user again?
>>722993142I would do that face too if I was forced to work with a fat tranny
>>723002308Seething
why are linuxfags so insufferable?
>>723001810>Google legitimate Windows issues>either reinstall or jeets reading off the troubleshooter>Google legitimate Linux issues>either reinstall, being told to install a different distro, or no answer because they got it through a private messageFuck off
>>723000493go back to /soc/
>>723002378Better bleeding-edge features. Windows still is a pain in the ass when it comes to shit like HDR.
>>723002308How disingenuous can you be lmfaoYou never have to interact with the command prompt on windows but you will have to use the linux terminal at some point
linux is scary cause im stupid :(
>>723002378it's more like the opposite, a ton of r&d runs on mid tier enterprise hardware, it's the thing connected to the computer that costs all the money
>>723002348>linuxfag cannot comprehend using a computer that doesn't crash every 15 minutes
>>723002378The 'argument' was about state of the art machines. Linux runs on hardware that is aeons beyond what your grandma uses.On top of that there's a lot of compatibility, most hardware runs out of the box these days.
>>723001915Not him, but since Win7 until now on Win11, I've only experience maybe 3 BSODs, all of them cause by failing hardware.Whenever I see you niggers in these threads crying about having constant crashes and bluescreens, I can't but think that PEBCAK is the answer.
Nvidia drivers suck ass on windows and linuxim going amd next full build
>>723002495Stop looking to youtube for troubleshooting and go to forums. Hell even Leddit is helpful at times
>>723002501>Shit eater>Likes winshitDamn, who would haver thought>>723002568>mfw my pc hasn't had a crash in years
>>723002531Is it supposed to be an own that your use cases are too limited to need a shell.
>>723002531>but you will have to use the linux terminal at some pointThis nigga has never used cachyos
>>723002531Look, I know you're just a goysumer who double clicks some shitty software, but not everyone is an unemployed neet. If you write software for windows or are a winshit admin, you have to know how to use it at level that requires the command line, full stop. KYS.
already switched baby
>>723002468Linuxfags are the computer version of vegans.They drink onions all day and can't stop talking about it.
>>722999765>run literally anything out of the box that does not require kernelThis is flat out wrong. Tried Arch last year and several programs I needed for my graphic design job would constantly have problems. Freezing, crashing, and one i could never get to boot. Everything else was a breeze, sure but Linux does not have the compatibility and support that windows does.>you will easily find everything you need on GoogleThis is mostly true but Linux users are fucking insuferable. "just follow the guide" you all say as I am trying to point out the guide is outdated and no longer works."Google it" they say after I already did and cannot find a solution to my problem so I ask a linux community tech support forum"just do [insert coding thing I do not understand]" after I mention in my posts that I am new to linux and do not know anything about how programming works.You fucks keep demanding people install the one distro of a hundred you like best then when anyone is trying to learn how use the thing, you are all the most unhelpful pricks of all time. Fuck you. I'm sticking to Windows.
>>722998473give it time before games refuse to run on windows 10 and steam ends all support for it like they did with 7 and 8
>>722992830>Want to upgrade my Linux Mint install version>Click "upgrade", it recommends I make a backup but updates without problems>Want to upgrade my old W10 drive to W11>Takes 2 hours, I have to factory reset W10 to get the W11 upgrader progam to work without crashing>Also have to run WinAeroTweaker to disable a shitload of bloat/bullshit and uninstall things like onedrive, disable microsoft store in the background etcIts so fucking shit, Linux Distros in 2025 just WORK while winblows takes legit 20x the time to download and install updates while also forcing you to update on shut down/restart without free choice.
>>722995385I just use krita
>>722992830I'm using Vista on the only browser left that can get through Cloudflare / captcha bs.
I've been using Linux Mint on my desktop and laptop for like two years now. It's great.
>>723002630Full AMD is 100% worth it. Everything just works here.
>>722994670I'm on win7 right now, but I also bought new Gigabyte laptop for sole purpose to install Linux on it
>>723002750The post you were responding to was about ease of use and you tried to snarkily turn it around on windows, but it's simply a fact windows is easier for the vast majority of people who use a computer, ever.The command line is just one example.
>>722997641>playing BF past BC2bro....
>>723002568The only times my deck crashed was because of firefox
>instead of telling people how good your distro is you tear people down who don't understand it Not really helping your cause
>>723002915>but it's simply a fact windows is easier for the vast majority of people who use a computerno? plenty of linux distributions are relatively trivial to use these. windows has plenty of gotcha moments these days where they push subscriptions and ads on you that are really bad for new users and old people.
>>723002630Just watch out if you need more bandwidth than 4k60fps over HDMI, amd doesn't have the loicense
Troonix sucks, simple as.T. Had microcuck account since 2012
>>722994893>if I didn't have controller issues on linux when I had my old laptop + rpg maker issuesIssues with which RPGMaker exactly? I am using 2k3, VX Ace and MV on Linux and they seem to work pretty well. Or are you talking about the games themselves?
>>723002531best believe you want powershell to debloat, only idorts know the truth
>"Windows is easy, bro">bricks your hard drive with a forced bullshit updateI'll stick with Linux Mint, thank you very much
>>722997641Even if i was still using Windows i still wouldn't bother with any of the modern shooter trash - cause they all expect you to enable secureboot/tpm and all that other garbage through your BIOS and anyone who has ever tinkered around with a BIOS knows how much shit can go wrong.NEVER touch this shit. My dad wanted to switch boot a few months ago and the thing wanted him to update so he did - which made his PC no longer boot at all - had to fuck around for hours until one final hard reset finally brought the thing back to live.
>>723002630the only reason i made the switch to nvidia was for VRin the end it wasnt really worth it
Maybe I'm just built different but I installed Kubuntu minimal, installed everything with my terminal and my pc has just werked for a month now. I can play shit all day and normally do when I'm not at work.
>>723002868I have a steam deck and everything just works there too.>>723003061I hear people got around that using a dp to hdmi converter.
I only tried Linux via Ubuntu like a decade ago to get the Tux in TF2, thinking it would be the next Earbuds (yep one of those guys).Now today apparently Ubuntu is shit and there's like a fuckton more Linux distros? What happened?
>>722998473I had to buy a new phone recently. They force to sign the EULA to use the device which includes a paragraph that says that I'm not allowed to deinstall the software (OS)
Oh no I'll just have to stick to using my modified version of Win 11 24H2
>>722992830>had virtually ever pc running their shit for decades by default and no competitors on the market>still managed to antagonize half their user basehow the fuck did they do it
>computer requires internet access to useYeah who needs a console right? Steam is ending windows support btw
>>723003273download wireshark and see how often it calls homedisabling that stuff does nothing
>>723003224Ubuntu was incredibly big and successful so the usual thing happened - the people behind it went full corpo and sold out through sponsor deals. Shilling ad and malware until people got tired of their shit and left.Arch is the "normal" distro these days.
>>723003273What is this, microwin?
>>723003278the endgame for anyone creating technology is total disdain for the user
>>723003273>system doesn't boot anymorecareful with modded installs. rufus comes with no guarantee that windows will keep working after updates.
>>723003329everything pings home even goynux.
>>722994740My wacom tablet worked out of the box with Linux Mint. On Windows I had to install a driver.Kinda funny how people assume Linux has nothing when it's basically the opposite. My distro came with a media player and photo viewer that was way better than Window's default. And it includes office libre which is better than the garbage Wordpad that Windows gives you so they can charge you for Microsoft Word.Windows is just an Adobe/Autodesk machine at this point. I can run any game I want with Steam Proton or Wine, no problems. Personally I use Krita for drawing, but if you use Photoshop then you are stuck with Windows.
>>722999537I've sent an elaborate answer to your friend.
>>723001803this is true, MS created Win11 because it's just free buxx to sell corporate licenses (majority of their Windows revenue)
>>723002634Anon, (you) should do what the other losers do here: Use reddit in secret. Then, when (you) come to 4chan, post about how reddit spacing is queer and spew conspiracy theories about how your gaymun' controllers keep on getting stolen and it's somehow the trannies' fault.
>>723003382nuh uh
>>722999537Depends on the gachaslop. Most work fine despite having kernel-level-anticheat. Which simply means it was never actual anti-cheat in the first place and should probably worry you.
>>723003426yuh hu
>>723003384I use CSP now mostly, with OpenToonz and Live2D on the side
>>723003198how is steam deck as a console connected to a TV? not into handhelds but using it as a way to do linux gaming on TV would be cool
anyone can enable extended security updates for free using MAS
>>722998473Set this and you are good, unless they do some real crazy shit to force update.
>>723003464nuh uh
>>722993503Mine doesn't say "This PC."
>>723003224>>723003352Ubuntu team has made the worst decisions possible. Besides using gnome as their default (whos devs also make terrible decisions), apt installs snap packages by default so you get to have copies and copies of the same shared libs. Its bloat for the sake of bloat.
>>723003549it doesnt matter theyll pull the rug eventually. there's no reason they couldn't be updating w7 with all the new shit but they just want to DRM everything.
>>723001803>forced updates IMMEDIATELY, can't delay them like in 10Yes you can.>even more spyware shitI doubt it's any different if you compare ltsc to ltsc.>no local accountWrong.>you (officially) NEED new hardware to use itWrong again.>they outright lied about 10 being the "last version of windows"Just like you're lying with your previous statements?
>>722997673So why not name it My PC?
>>723003549You dont even need those.>but muh ransomware!!Just dont be a retard and you dont need it. That goes for Defender too.
>>723003712because it's not your pc, you're using a node on their botnet at their convenience.
All the spying windows does makes it really hard to justify using win11linux has problems but ill just try to live with it.lets be honest, i dont fucking play modern videogames anyway, who gives a fuck about steam. i emulate games.
>>723002819the issue is simply that the linux versions of the good shit are clones (which work well) or things that work well from the get go, the thing is that some distributors don't desire and openly deride linux usage by not even running on linux by drm bullshit or breaking the thing on a certain way to fuck with wine. even with this that's the reason those annoying users should recommend applications like:https://github.com/winapps-org/winapps which let you virtualize these specific apps and integrate them when wine doesn't work by drm antics instead of hating on people who don't know, a lot of people in general don't hate linux functionality by in general ui, functionality, general system use, intuitiveness and most software working better on linux, it's simply that in the worst cases in centralized industries people don't explain or give solutions but simply want to give a false hearing of linux "being hard" to feel better of being "smarter" rather than showing linux quality and inherent ease of use as the main factors to change (see dudes which talk about how linux is like gentoo in all distros even if this is false by nearly all distros not being advanced users ones but instead being general usage ones which use graphical tools or one command usage) or simply being shills which give the worst solution to give a false idea that linux is hard by giving the worst solution to hide the real solutions.>>723003127correct. those anti cheats are there to sell data by anticheats using app variables on specific application not being able to catch cheaters by most cheaters nowadays using private cheats which aren't there publicly, they simply pick data to simply fingerprint info or get info in general to sell later/use it to market stuff to you.
>>723003686>TPM optional>except for bf6Kek
>>723003539I treat it like a ps4 that I can sometimes take on the go. I played XIV and FF7R on both and Steam Deck just feels a bit better. I have a keyboard connected at all times when connected because its so convenient and basically required for MMOs fuck typing with controller.
>>723003853That's not a windows issue but a bf6 issue.
>>723003549>Just inject this rootkit named "mass grave"Sounds legit
Maybe when emulators work
>>723003649>Besides using gnome as their defaulteveryone uses gnome as the default. kde is a hobbyist project that's only really good for power users. gnome has the backing of redhat and canonical, plus it's actually FOSS unlike kde.
>>722992830I want move over so bad but I dont think I'll be able to actually play half my games. Give it to me straight actual linuxfags do older games tend to work? What percentage of steam gsmes are playable?
>>723003903Anon, people here are using that an excuse as to why "Linux sux".Might as well just say installing Linux is optional, unless you want to play these rootkit games
>>723004052older games probably work even better because it'll translate to a modern API usually except for extreme edge cases obviously.
>>723003686Why do you lie on the internet?
>>723003951>activate windows with mass grave>for unrelated reasons had to reinstall windows>formatted the drive in the process>finish reinstalling>it's already been activatedThat's some sophisticated rootkit right there.
>>723004052if it runs on deck it's a good signhttps://www.protondb.com/explore?selectedFilters=whitelistedthat said, do your homework on everything if you plan to switch, figure out how users do it on whatever distro you pick
>linux users calling others liarspot meet kettle
>>723003993>kde is a hobbyist project that's only really good for power usersGet the fuck out of here, plebian. KDE offers a better ui/ux than gnome ever has. Gnome is actively tanking their own designs by half-assing everything into a mobile/touchscreen mode.>plus it's actually FOSS unlike kde.Yeah you're a retard
>>722996587I just LTSC and made a two local accounts, easy shit.I've learned my lesson with windows since 10, LTSC versions are the only good ones and worth your time.
>>722999765Troonix is not idiot proof. I installed mint a few years back and it blew up after one update, then complained about kernel hazards on start up. None of the other distros would even install on my machine. I was forced to settle for win 10 LTSC at the end of 7's extended lifespan.
>>723002317Either:1. Install a businesses edition of windows, either Enterprise or Education. The latter already comes bundled in the official ISO from ms, so you don't need to use any third party source. These give you the option to "setup offline" and set a local account without any tinkering. You can activate them with the massgrave script (for more info check the Friendly Windows Thread on /g/) 2. You can download the official ms ISO from their page and use a program called RUFUS to make a bootable usb. Rufus gives you the option to bypass w11 hardware and software requirements at the setup. This is best if for any reason you want to use Home or Pro editions (although honestly that isn't recommended).There are other ways to do it which work fine but those I gave you are the easiest methods.
>>723004074I don't play games with kernel level spyware and I don't care what people here are using as an excuse to shit on troonix.
>>723004052its literally only the newest sloppa that sometimes doesnt run and games with kernel level anti cheat
>>722992830I use w10 LTSC, I don't think this affects me
>>722997467>B-b-b-but it's Nvidia's fault so it doesn't countYou faggot always say this stupid shit
>>723001013>after some fixing
>>722992830>windows does something anti-consumer>people bitch and moan and swear they're leaving THIS TIME>but wont dont anything because they're to lazy to learn a new OS>they eventually forget about whatever it was they were angry at>this process repeats every 4 - 5 monthsenjoy microsofts cock ramming down your throat on the windows cycle.
>>723000292The games you want to play are dogshit but i fucking hate that additide linuxfags have>HOLY FUCK USE LINUX ITS ACTUALLY EASIER THAN WINDOWS AND DOES EVERYTHING WINDOWS CAN>but it actually cant run program/play game i want to play>UHHH YOURE A GAY FAG FOR WANTING TO ACTUALLY DO THINGS ON YOUR COMPUTER LOEL
>>723004148I don't.
It's annoying but all you need to do is make a bullshit MS @outlook.com account directly in the OOB and then create a local account once at the desktop.Promote new local account to admin.Switch users to local account.Delete bullshit MS account.This the later parts can be automated by AutoHotKey.
>>723004481@grok does this work?
>>723000292There simply no alternative to photoshop unfortunately. Whoever suggests gimp as an alternative should be brutally murdered.
>>723004528You need a not bullshit phone number first
>>723003238Who gives a shit.
>>723004583Nope, you don't need a phone number to make a MS account.
>>723004538You can't convince me that adobe DOESN'T pay gimp devs to make their ui total ass on purpose
>>723001803What more could they add 10 is alredy pozzed to the max with m$ taking screenshots of your activity every few seconds and sending them to an army of pajeets.
>>722999765>Troubleshooting Loonix >Find out which version you're using>Find out which sub version of the version you're using>Find out which sub version of the sub version of the version you're using>Search for help by saying you need Limeberry Extra Dextrose Vanilla Linux help because your mouse isn't registering >Only find help for Lime-berry Mild Dextrose Vanilla Linux on a single forum maintained by the one guy that manages your build>Half the advice works but the other half almost bricks your install>Ask for help in dozens of other similar forums but the consensus is eventually that it was your fault for buying that stupid mouse and that you should just buy a new one. >Troubleshooting Windows>Find out which version you're using>Search for help by saying you need "Windows 11 help">Find literal thousands of ways to fix your problem>Fix your problem
>>723004819>this headcanon again
>>723004538For doing what, exactly?Photoshit is terrible for drawing, any random phone app can do what it does for photomanipulation unless you're doing some CIA memoryhole shit, in that case they probably have proprietary software anyway.
>>72300405295% of the my steam catalogue works no problem.the 5% that doesn't is fixed by GRE-proton.GoG games all have worked fine via Heroic Launcher + GREproton.I've played through all of the thief games, VtmB, SimCity 2000 and Stronghold HD with no problems.
>>722992830how the fuck do you even install windows?do they not know you cant connect to internet when installing windows because you dont have internet drivers
>>722997641>Every big AAA multiplayersNot true, Marvel Rivals, CS2, Dota 2, Overwatch 2, Fallout 76, Nightrein and even hugely popular AAs like Helldivers 2, ARK or DBD work without issues. Besides that, all normie-core chink gachaslops work (Genshin, ZZZ, BA), Diablo works (both II and IV), Fromslop works, etc.It's just a very specific handful of games that happen to be the biggest most normie-popular ones: Fortnite, Warzone, Riot stuff and now BF6
>>723001945most linux is simply using the graphical apps to install stuff, those things of using the terminal come in windows as well if you do more than watching videos or having to use graphical ui's.Literally proton in most cases is simply pressing play in steam by steam play being active by default, literally this shit doesn't even happenin comparison to this bait:>windows explodes by itself>when you have to use the terminal it breaks and is hard as fuck by not being good functionality to explain or put consistents guidelines like error messages>you have more error messages if you do something a bit abnormal>the shit goes slower, it's more bloated, works with less functionality>has a lot of compatibility issues in older software which literally in linux is solved by clicking the .exe in wine or any other app.i know it's bait but windows is a piece of shit which is broken and has a ton of issues, linux works from the get go and gives you a general way to fix your os without reinstalling, windows kills your os and it's nearly impossible to fix by yourself by the sheer retardation of his functionality, you won't like seeing registry shit or cmd shit in any part of your life if you hate the most advanced linux stuff in 1 command in 3 with esoteric meanings and function which no one can explain. Linux terminal is optional and the system works better with or without it, windows breaks itself and the terminal doesn't exist even to fix it, giving you the only option of reinstalling (which linux has as well but it's much more abnormal by having more easy solutions, even giving you automatic tools and gui applications by users in general use distros)
>>723004713it's funny because ps originally looked like gimp so it's as if there have been no ui/ux improvements in decades. you can do decent work in gimp but be prepared to climb the mountain
Should I even make a dual boot formated for the gay format linux likes or just force it to work with NTFS? I already did both in the past and there isn't any difference in performance. Just more annoying shit to do before installing this crap. I will still have windows 10 installed.
>>723004538Krita is better for drawing, albeit slower.
>>722993142They wouldn't dare. They would lose the entire thirdie world
ITT Microcucks fighting with Troonix user over who is more mentally challenged
>>722993756>KRASHES
>>723004052literally only games with anti cheat on the kernel level don't work (by the devs not wanting to see linux users on servers), everything else works better than windows in performance, compatibility and functionality.
>>723004052Older games are easily playable. If you heard otherwise, it was because Windows shills who never touched Linux like to throw everything and see what sticks, e.g. this schizo babble over here >>723001093 in addition to all the conflicting claims of what Linux supposedly can and can't do.>It only runs popular games!>It only runs indie games!>It only runs new games!>It only runs old games!All bullshit. The only categorical statement you can make is that it's less likely to work with online games, specifically those which rely on anti-cheat middleware that either blocks Linux outright or needs to check things that Linux won't allow. A number of single-player games also don't work for various reasons, invariably related either to proprietary video codecs or bad development practices i.e. using Windows API hacks too obscure to be implemented in Wine, but it's not just the old games or just the new games or anything like that.There's no reliable data on what percentage, because ProtonDB only lists Steam games and a ton of those games don't have any sufficiently recent reports while WineHQ AppDB is practically dead so the few reports there are even less likely to be up-to-date, not to mention ProtonDB's method of coming up with average ratings is highly questionable at best. You'll just have to look up some games you like and read the recent reports to see how compatible they are.
>>722999765This is such a fucking lie. it's not just open app store and click install. You're lying like all the fucking youtubers who shill all the fucking shit flavors of the month
>>723005014I had a dual boot but windows 10 shat itself even after making sure encryption and quick start-up was disabled before formatting my linux drives and asked me to sign up for a new local account every time i booted my windows drive in BIOS.unless windows 10 is essential save the headache and toss it, it will break eventually.
>>723005324>it's not just open app store and click install.with flatpaks it is nowi fucking hate it
another thread of loonixtards FAILING and FLAILING to get people to use linux lmao
>>723005324>it's not just open app store and click installThis. Linux Mint's software manager technically isn't a "store" at all. It's just a front-end for a package repository and everything is free.
>>723005447why would they even try to get people to use it anyways? Isn't it like something you want to gatekeep?
>>723004889It's easy man, you just>download an .iso from Microsoft>but make sure to get my special snowflake IOT LTSC version>burn it on to bootable media>boot in to the installer>use the terminal to bypass online account creation>(but make sure to use the most up-to-date method since it gets patched)>click through all the settings and install>boot into windows>download this debloating script from github to remove some of the spyware and advertising>run it in an elevated powershell>edit the registry to disable more spyware and restore the old context menus>defer updates for 2 weeks>edit the registry again after updates add even more spyware and pride month bannersIt Just Works, unlike troonix.
>>722992830linuxfags are dishonest and pretty much evil they will lie and deceive by telling you everything just works its just as good or better than windows and when that turns out to not be the case they will lash out and attack you
>>723005053Krita has a couple of issues. >typesetting is ass>default brush selection is meh>brushes have a dotting issueKrita doesn't come close when it comes to filters or 3d wrapping and can't do animations.
>>723004889That hasn't been a thing since XP, but also nowadays you can't proceed a Windows installations without Internet.(1 hour worth of spyware installation process ahead)
>>723005529You can literally just see for yourself but you're too scared or stupid to set it up LOL
>>723004276the thing is that in mint you can recover by general terminal (by installing a good kernel) if you are advanced, if not these types of bad updates (which can even be caused by specific settings like secure boot or things like that) can be solved by using a live usb which can let you update correctly by having an environment to keep using the system for info or simply to get specific files to update to the good kernel or even reinstall if the issue is too extreme. windows only gives you a reinstall and normally by the updates being cycle dependent rather than original file you will be fucked by being forced the same update which borked your pc (which normally is a general os failure which fucks with everything) so you cannot escape the situation on the first place.Linux has a lot of options ranging from easy to hard, windows only has one option which is made shit by retarded functionality on the system, still that issue in mint was wrong and is good that it got solved by fixing a bad update
>pc dying as win11 comes outgood way for me to stop gaming forever i guess
>>723005559>typesetting is assthis still mindboggles me. like howalso yeah default brushes are meh.
>>723005559i'd rather blender than try to get animations working in krita
>I AM GETTING ADS ON WINDOWS 10How? Only way this is possible if you bought some prebuild with a bunch of shit preinstalled I think? If you got an actual ad then click it to remove it from your task screen and uninstall it.
>>722992830I already use linux as my main OS, windows I've been using just for games for quite some time and the restrictions 11 wants are basically unworkable, Secureboot is shit I refuse to enable that which effectively restricts your device to only booting operting systems that MS has signed and cleared as okay and I won't enable TPM because that's just a backdoor to DRM and MS being able to hardware ban PCs. People that upgrade to 11 and enable either of those two things are fucking retarded.
>>723004839you don't have to do this, unless you are opening the system (which in the solution is to reinstall if you fucked everything and you don't know how to fix) you never have to fix it, in windows opening the system is impossible and you don't even need to by the system breaking itself for you without doing anything (and you cannot fix it unless you know 4 commands with perfect requirements to fix and the syntax of eso lang autism while making normally reinstall harder or simply not fixing anything on certain cases, linux always let the reinstall happen and has general 1 to 2 command fixes if you go for the advanced route so it's easy in the easy way and in the hard way, unlike windows).Aka windows breaks itself, linux even if hit with a hammer can be fixed easily while not breaking itself so you don't even have to troubleshoot on the first place.
>>723005960Do you have any experiences to share on that?Last time I tried I was running 8gb of ram so I thought Krita was shitting the bed because of it, now I have 32 but I haven't tried yet.
>>723005559Krita does better animation than photoshop. When I last used photoshop it barely had any animation capabilities. No onionskinning, no easy framerate adjustment, a barely functioning timeline. You had to type in the duration of each frame.
>>723006306Why would you use a drawing program with animation shit tacked on, instead of a dedicated animation suite?
>>7230062352d in blender is confusing and you will have to watch tuts. you are klnd of projecting on a 2d target screen in 3d space. my experience is with making animated assets that get composited on top of live video for educational content. if you've never used blender it will take awhile. it's still less janky than trying it in gimp.
>>722992830Just tested it with a ISO extracted from microsoft, still works.They only blocked one of them, and not even the usual OOBE\BYPASSNRO that is used the most or rufus ISO editing one.
>>723005528>Just go here and there and run random shit created by neet Pajeets on Github, then go to registry to nerd out more and then just run this esoteric command that you don't fully understand then do this..Yeah you're describing the troonix experience pretty much
>>723006235fuck, forgot to mention blender runs on nodes so if you are used to layers like after effects that might be a dealbreaker for you
>>723006434>dedicated animation suiteLike what? Any dedicated animation software is really expensive or has really lousy drawing tools. Krita is a good drawing software and you don't need much for animation, just a working timeline and layers.
>>723003951its open source moron
>>723004176Windows activation keys are stored in BIOS since UEFI is a thing.
>>723006212>linux even if hit with a hammerarch will break itself if you don't update it for several months straight, goddamn you fags just can't stop omitting things
>>723007282>Windows activation keys are stored in the BALLS
>another Linux thread gets seethe-bumped to the bump limit>another gamer will install Linux because they saw this thread>the Windows fan-club Discord server made it all possible by not knowing what goes in the options field when want to they cry in a thread without bumping itlol
>>723007284>arch will break if you try to update when you haven't updated it for several months straightFTFY
