>be Captain Wolfer>soldier of DI EMPERA'!!>see ThE sTrAnGeR fine while your men rot inside >kill your commissar, the only middle reasonable thing you do in your entire traitorous career>join tHe StRaNgEr (him / her (?))>MUH FRIDUM!! MUH PROSPERITY!! under the god of DECAY (Wolfer is not a very smart guy)>wupsy, you're a just pawn of a cultist schizo, your soldiers mean nothing to him>still believing in Chaos 'cuz somehow Nurgle's afterlife is betta' than Emperor's oneNo matter how hard GW tries, I will never have sympathy for literal retards. I hope his deathscene is he being beaten up by the spirits of the Moebian loyalists, The Emperor (for being a traitor) and Nurgle (for being a loser even in un-death) themselves.
>female version of Wolfer >but with no reason nor background at all >still wanting to be a traitor despite seeing Wolfet getting ass-fvcked every single time, by both Imperials and cultists >of all dark gods, choose the DECAY oneTruly the WOMAN.exe moment of the game.
>>724061020that's because the emperor doesn't offer any kind of afterlife
>>724061020>Nurgle's afterlifeI mean Nurgle's afterlife IS pretty sweet when you are a in Nurgle's afterlife. The disease and rot don't hurt you, you revel in them and it brings you eternal life and boundless joy.
>>724062275>check how some Imperial citizens, even the most sinful, become Saints>check the Damned Legion, lit. IMPERIAL demons>it implies there is an afterlife where all the Loyalist souls go and stay with The Emperor, in an uncorrupted place of the Immaterium
>>724062281Last time I checked, Chaos' afterlife was your soul being devoured by your patron-god.
did that game finally get content since they added the twins?i remember crafting being RNG cancer as wellAre cheatmods still a thing?
>>724063130Legion of the Damned aren't imperial demons. I think the closest that would come to that are Living Saints like Saint Celestine for example.
>>724063207The Chaos Gods can put you into their eternal favor, like Nurgle letting you live in his garden for eternity. But most of the time they just absorb you into their being and you stop being an individual.But then again, if you are so far gone living for Nurgle, then being integrated into him doesn't sound so bad either.You would be one with your god, sounds like a dream come true for a true believer cultist
>>724063304They finally made some story cutscenes amd you can say that the game is out of early accessThey added some missions in new biome (manofactorum, but with snow) and new class (arbiter - OP since he has an immortal dog that can chomp the snipers) Early november they will announce another dlc class which whill be the new op one and arbuter, continuing the vermintide tradition, will get nerfed into where Horus plays dice with Ferrus Manus and Alpharius.
...This horrible dogshit GaaS clone of Vermintide has a story?And people care about it?
>>724063345>Legion of the Damned aren't imperial demons.Demon, from the greek 'daimon' (spirit), neutral world that can be positive, 'eu-demon' (good spirit), or negative, 'caco-demon' (evil spirit). Since the Damned are the preserved spirits (demons) of Loyalist SM (aka, eu-demons), I think it fits the definition. Same with St. Catherine.
>>724063130Living Saints don't resurrect outside of Celestine, that was a gameplay extrapolation in Dawn of War.The Legion of the Damned are no longer a thing, and even when they were it was dubious what exactly they were.The Emperor us not coherent enough to offer a real afterlife.
>>724063537>The Emperor reborned and Guilliman>"Nice garden you have there, it would be a shame if someone unleash HOLY nuclear fire there."No afterlife for you, traitor.
>>724063879What in the autism did I just read? No, you pedant, in the 40k setting the Legion of the Damned are not daemons.
>>724063875>And people care about it? I thought would be an interesting well-written script. Obviously, I was wrong.
>>724063885>>724064096Respectfully disagree.
>>724063885>The Legion of the Damned are no longer a thingWhy is nu lore so boring?
Reminder the Golden Turk got ZUTTED by machines so hard he could only act after they were put down.and then still failed to enact total reddit atheism.
>>724064550you only made this post because you just heard the ebin new meme and wanted to shoehorn it in somewherendtkg
>>724063875dont turn the knife in the wound, faggot.
Anon chaos cultists are one of three things not playing with a full deck, are a immoral scumbags or just deluding themselves as to what's going on.They aren't rational people making rational decisions.
>>724062281>The disease and rot don't hurt youTechnically it does, you just grow numb to the endless fever.
>>724064648What if I just think Chaos looks cool?
>>724062281Isn't Nurgle's afterlife mostly just life as a plaguebearer?
>>724064721Depends if you're lucky anway.Vast majority of people who hadn't pledged themselves to nurgle just became something like the groaners when exposed to the crazy shit he shits.Moments of horrific lucidity in a daze of excruciating delirium.
>>724064648'Member when the first editions of WF, Chaos Gods have also a positive side, so "falling" into Chaos had some pros so it wasn't a total delulu?I 'member.
>>724064294Welcome to GW's new vision of the Imperium. You WILL have the shining noble protagonists who have no blatant downsides or edginess to them.
>>724064294AoSi(ssy)fication of 40k
>>724065062The chaos gods still kinda have those positive aspects but it's mostly been re-framed as avenues for people to fall rather than domains they represent.Khorne is still the god of martial excellence and bravery for example but under chaos it just devolves into indiscriminate bloodshed.Plus depending on how you wanna argue it they still do represent them. No one is going to call a Khornite a cowardly wimp, a Tzeentchian a dumbass or a Slaaneshi boring.
>>724065485AoS ironically has a better setting than 40k at this point.It's really fucking sad.
>>724065137>>724065535I never thought the Damned were particularly edgy or even interesting.
>>724064009and now the garden is back and nothing changed
>>724065706Actually the Emperor damaged it permanently. Even Great Unclean ones feel pain over it, with the Emperor ironically inflicting a wound on them that won't heal.
>>724065783and what great effect does this have on the galaxy?
>>724065783How could the Emperor do this?! Intolerant bastard hurting my boys.
>>724065831Undeniable proof that the chaos gods and their realms can be hurt maybe even destroyed..
>>724065946how is it proof when it changed nothing>enemies have a tummy ache for a whileok, so? did they get actually weaker?
Chaos sucks and holds 40k back
>>724065995Yes
>>724066118proofs?
>>724064294Because GW is uncomfortable with the xenophobic zealous Humanity they have written and need to sand off the edge for mass market consumption. Gotta appeal to literally everyone and destroy the IP in the process.
>>724061020I have ___ fatigue
>>724066368did you perhaps mix up the legion of the damned with the black templars or something?
>>724065831>>724065995It definitvely ended the Plague Wars, pushing back the influence of the then strongest Chaos God and safeguarding Ultramar.
>>724066368u wot? Black Templars, Ordo Hereticus and Ordo Xenos still exist. what was particularly xenophobic or zealous about the LotD?
>>724066368ironic since in pure human terms the Imperium is probably the most inclusive humanity has ever been.Sucks to suck for ayys and mutants though but even some mutants get a pass if they are cool enough.
>>724063875>gaas clone of vermintide>literally identical content release schedule to vermintide>literally identical monetisation to vermintide????
>>724061020You have what fatigue?
>>724066368>and need to sand off the edge for mass market consumption.You got it slightly backwards. Instead of sanding down the Imperium's edges they're instead making every other faction either shit or irredeemable. The Imperium will continue to exist as it always had, but GW has now turned towards making them more and more justified to better sell as protags.
>>724066808How would they do that, tau and eldar are the only factions that aren't pure evil (oh nucrons are supposed to be kind of good guys arent they?) and eldar have always been depicted as being just as xenophobic as humans
>>724066075Unironically THIS.It's funny how GW cracks any fan passion project that gives 40k new life but doesn't do anything against "muh another Primarch that isn't Horus Heresy" fanfics. Which are some of the worst and laziest fanfics ever.
>>724061020I must be loyle to my emperor
>>724061020I have warhammer 40gay fatigue
>>724066141COVID ended
>>724061020Chaos IS 40k you retards, only Imperium and Chaos matters. The rest are just fluff and punching bags for the main 2.
>>724064550>Golden Turk got ZUTTED by machineslmaoooooooo
>>724065498Anon, you're describing CG but with nothing good, just as I said before.In early editions, >khornites love war but not eating kids alive >slaaneshies were art obsessive bohemians but not serial-grapists>tzeentchies were tech nerds and social progressists, not lovecraftians schizos>nurglites were hippie nature lovers, not zombies that want to eat youThere's a TITANIC difference there.
>>724066970>tau and eldar are the only factions that aren't pure evilConvenient that neither of those factions have done anything notworthy in the past 10 years, isn't it?And we now have Necrons also try to set off a galactic anti-life nuke as well, Chaos is expressly shown having no benefits, Orks are comic relief bad guys, and Nids are a major rival now specifically because they're mindless bugs to be killed en masse.
>>724066640LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT BUDDY
>>724067747Nids are a "major rival" whatever the fuck thats supposed to mean because they were the other army included in the 10th edition starter box. No other reason.
>>724067664>serial-grapistslook at this cowardly nigger who can't even say rape.
>>724064994Yes, but not just a plaguebearer, you are subsumed and effectively just become a weaker copy of Nurgle, with no personality or individuality of your own. Nurgle is the personification of narcissistic abuse, which stultifies and stunts the growth of those who suffer under it. Fun fact: Nurgle is not actually the god of disease, he just uses diseases as a tool to make people despair and have no one else to turn to but Nurgle.
>>724068421Jesus. That somehow sounds worse than the other gods.
>>724066970>tau and eldar are the only factions that aren't pure evilnew content any millenium now...
>>724066970>tau and eldar are the only factions that aren't pure evilAnd they're hated for it, as they should be.
>>724061020I have "I have x fatigue" fatigue
>>724066518Yeah
>>724068756These niggers just got a slew of new models
>>724061020New class announced soon lads!
>>724068363Look at this Dogmatist who can't even take a joke.
>>724066970I thought Tau nu-lore had it shown that they are manipulating, enslaving, and committing genocide under the guise of the greater good? Ethereals are basically dicks etc
I still desire an Eldar game.
>>724061020I have anti-Chaos fatigue.
>>724068421>Nurgle is not actually the god of diseaseWho is the actual one?
>>724070787I have anti-anti-Chaos fatigue.PD: Necoho was based.
>>724061020I like playing Chaos, but you have to accept you are playing Saturday morning cartoon villians and satanic panic demons.
>>724070885Slaanesh (spreads stds)
>>724062275In the 40k universe afterlife is given. You die, your soul goes ot the Warp, simple as. Now, whether you become the rape toy of demons there or the Emprah protects is the nuance.
>>724069469are they cool?
>>724071526any proofs of emprah protecting? human souls mostly just dissipate in the warp near-instantly. psykers survive long enough to get torn apart by daemons, while chaos worshipers get amalgamated into their gods and sometimes turned into lesser daemons.
I'm not a fan of a massive sudden HAPPENING in 40k lore that happened with gurly man being resurrected being halted into another status quoFucking one piece anime episode pacing ass story development
>>724069975>manipulating, enslavingYes>committing genocide Where?
>>724061020>>724061720Nurgle is objectively the best GodTzeentch is lol lmaoKhorne literally does not care if you dieSlaanesh is the second best but you basically burn yourself out pursuing your desiresNurgle is chill, sure you get necrosis but you won't feel anything, heck you get stronger
>>724071802Don't they sterilize their humans?
>>724071815you also get the worst mutations though and will look the most hideous with all sorts of shit living in your rotten flesh crawling around
>>724071853If they'd do that how would they get more Gue'vesa?And by 40K standards, sterilization is barely genocide.
>>724071815>hippity hoppity your garden gets holy-nukety
>>724071802The most recent bit that matches genocide is the fourth sphere killing off all their auxiliary races, but that got put to an end, and largely covered up like the rest of the warp stuff to do with the Startide Nexus.>>724071853That was a reference in Dawn of War, and then another imperial reference was made in a somewhat recent book, iirc. But there's nothing saying that they sterilizer all humans. The tau probably has some kind of chemical castration program that they use for problem populations, and specifically tau that refuse to adhere to the caste/eugenics system.In general humans are some of the more ardent defenders of the Tau'va in the empire.
>>724071727Bro it's been 8 years since he got ressurectedIt's not new lore
I want a game where you play as one of the guardsmen in space marine 2. Same scale. I always loved the setpieces in that campaign and I'd love to play it. They can set it up so when you die you just instantly swap to another guardsman and you only get a game over when you run out of reinforcements.>but what about the space marines?I don't care desu
>>724072178>he thinks 8 years is a longtime>when GW and 40k have been around since 1988Most 40k fans, as in fanatics, as in people that buy the miniatures for painting and tabletop started a decade before Guilty Man was resurrected. Even DoW fans are old enough to remember when 40k was niche and also not infested with double dipping on muhreens faggotry.
>>7240721781. Refer to the middle of the funny cat pic2. Get a job3. GW usually sits on it's arse and does nothing and then nukes the settingWhere are the new primarchs with whom girly man can speak and pull the imperium out of the anus that it is in today? Like Dorn or either of skosts (skull ghosts) which E could theoretically resurrect if he wasn't bound to the chair and that Cawl could 1000% resurrect since he has improved the space marinesLast time I checked all of the books were made to conform to amazon's dei rulebook. Even space wolves got their own Malmö now. Also nothing ever happens in them books.
>>724072083Yeah, that was just the 4th Sphere reacting to being touched by the warp, something Tau have no experience with and little understanding of.
>>724072605>Guardsmen >not Tempestus Scions>not Kasrkin or Stormtroopers>not a Navy Trooper in sick ass void armor>not a member of the AssasinorumThere are plenty of more interesting Imperium forces that aren't "dies to a rough sneeze and gets no cool weapons" and "mutant eunuch giant that still does like a retard against space bugs" y' know.
>>724071727thing is nothing has actually happened sinceit was a lore shakeup for sure but all the fears of an advancing marvel metaplot turned out to be a nothingburger
>>724061020Surprised that Arbites got swept under the rug this quick. They dont even have a premium cosmetic in the slop shop and we're getting a new class.
>>724072991Classes, hero units, and promotions could be part of the game.
>>724072991Those would all be different gameplay so I didn't mention them. A republic commando style game with scions or kasrkin would be really cool too.
>>724072991>scionsbrainwashed, no personality>kasrkin or stormtroopersthey are guardsmen, they get the exact same equipment, there's no real difference>navy trooperless equipment>assassinorumminimal fucking equipment, each temple gets like one or two weapons
>>724073165>they get the exact same equipment, there's no real differenceNot true. Kaskrin get hotshots and full armor.>brainwashed, no personalityGW can't even stick to this premise with the space marines yet all of them behave like bratty teenaged boys
>>724072605There was and I think still is a niche fps called VerdunYou can get the average guardsman experience there. Even cosplay the kriegers if you want. (You die in about 30s to an artillery barrage) >>724073079Meh. They have set up enough. 40k will end with Vashtorr blowing up terra and becoming a new chaos god, but impy will be another chaos god and he will make 40k 2: Age of Impy
>>724073345>40k will end with Vashtorr blowing up terra and becoming a new chaos god, but impy will be another chaos god and he will make 40k 2: Age of Impynone of this will happen
>>724073165>they are guardsmen, they get the exact same equipment, there's no real differenceCorrection they get BETTER and more VARIED equipment and CARAPACE armor. Regular guardsmen can die to bullshit gutter trash armed with high caliber stubbers and regular grenades. Meanwhile Kasrkin/Stormtroopers are basically in full riot cop kit while running around like commandos on steroids.
>>724073474yeah, so basically a mid-campaign upgrade when the grizzled kasrkin sergeant who just saw you fight through an impossible situation that killed your squad of recruits takes you under his arm and you join his team of stormtroopers
>>724073396GW cannot go a single day or edition without sucking chaos dick
>>724073094The new new class is Eldar Corsair
>>724073701I know
>>724073701Premise of darktide is "40k from the point of view of an average schmuk"More realistically the new class is tempestus scion
>>724074152>40k from the point of view of an average schmukAnon that goes out the window literally the second the tutorial ends. You're an Inquisitor's retinue.
>>724074152Stop this bullshit already. DT stopped being that a long time ago. An average schmuck can't kill daemonhosts and beasts of nurgles.
>>724073165>assassinorum>for the sake of a video game you can't have a Vindicare as protag willing to use other weapons>works for an enigmatic Inquisitor like in Darktide so missions are varied with multiple objectives and you constantly are at risk because your Inquisitor is either dumb, an asshole, or a dumb asshole Have some imagination.
Returning fag, did they fix the gearing yet? Is it worth redownloading?
>>724071606Legions of V*turds will never be cool.
>>724074586>>for the sake of a video game you can't have a Vindicare as protag willing to use other weaponsGW would never allow it, they're extremely autistic about what loadouts characters are depicted with. Darktide and Vermintide have run into this problem a lot.
>>724073701I'm hoping for Skitarii myself, would be a good excuse to add in Mechanicus weapons without being too powerful.
>>724074961Most of the RNG has been removed and you can craft your desired weapon whenever you want. Blessings and perks can be swapped out freely, and you unlock blessings just by using the weapon to increase its mastery level.The only remaining RNG is finding curios that have the main stat you want (pretty much always toughness) and getting the right stat spread on a weapon. For a weapon's base stats you can just keep buying weapons from the armory until you get the one you want. Curios however can only be bought from melk's shop which uses the weekly challenge currency which can be a grind if you're unlucky.
>>724075213>>724073701>>724073094Skitarii is what was detained years ago along with Arbites, so that's the one with the biggest chance
>>724063130>uncorruptedUgh, I wouldn't be so optimistic.
>>724075102What about Solar Auxilia troopers? Maybe have a 30k game where you fight xenos, random human civilizations, and eventually traitors lead by mini boss Astartes that technically aren't Chaos affiliated yet. all in void armor spitting out death rays from a Volkite gun and other fun 30k toys.
>>724076491they're never going to start designing random 30k xenos that don't already have model linesOnly War already gives a pretty good template for what a Guardsman game could include
>>724076491I don't think 30k has xenos. It's the dedicated space marine v space marine setting, right?
>>724076704Before they started fighting each other they fought all kinds of spooky space horrors. Rangda, Megarachnids, Hrud.
>>724076704(D)Eldar and orks are always around, as well as xenos that were fought and purged during the crusade. HH obviously is mainly SM vs SM (ft solar auxilia, mechanicus, titans and knights)
>>724075523got my fingers crossed i want to introduce the heretics to my radium carbine
>>724075523The new class codename is broker. It's a xenos.
>>724073094Only if "swept under the rug" is code phrase for "this class shit clearly sell, let's make another one". For all the outrage about broken promises, pricing and whatever, people WANT more classes added to the game.
>>724063875More a sideeffect than anything: I love playing the game so will occasionally check out everything about it. It's not great, but enjoy the scheme powerbalance between the Rogue Trader, Inquisitor Grendyl and the High Houses. I can't muster any enthusiasm for any of the supporting NPCs except Morrow who's just here to do his job then go back to his room and watch the Prisoner on repeat while kicking back a cold one.
>>724076491>Solar AuxiliaThey're sadly not that relevant outside of 30k
>>724077487Dude, Arbites is pretty much the most boring w + m1 class that the game offers. FS has done nothing to make it interesting.
>>724061020INJECT AI SLOP DIRECTLY INTO MY VEINShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDq5S0yfYHk
>>724061020I mean your Chaos options aren't good>Khorne: Everyone want's a piece of you and you BETTER meet your skull quota, or your own will make it>Tzeentch: Lovecraftian nightmares and random mutations abound, and everyone's a smartass whose better at trivia than you>Slanesh: You and I both know what happens there.
I want a Reclaimator, Fatshark
>>724061020What's the alternative?>Eternal rape with barbed wire shit-spewing cocks or whatever Slaneesh is into that week>Hurdy durdy rage then die in a ditch>PURSUE KNOWLEDGE (we do not know what that stands for)>404 Emperor Not Found, Please Try Again LaterMay as well go be a giant fart and have pet worms crawling out of your holes, you won't feel it, so who cares at that point?
>>724077745
>>724071727Bro they want to just keep selling shit. You can't sell shit if the story actually is done.
>>724063875Is Vermintide not GaaS?
>>724077736>>724077810>What's the alternative?Chaos undivided, you retarded lorelets.
>>724078464it's as much of a live service game as something like deep rock galactic is
He was right
>>724076572>>724076704>>724077607>not that relevant outside of 30kThat's a good thing because GW can't get all autistic about "muh lore and loadouts" because they have no concrete lore about Solar Auxiliary having a limited selection of weapons. Basically any video game about a Solar Auxiliary would be fresh, new lore. Also the void armor used by Solar Auxilia has its own appeal even if it appears in 40k as relic armor used by a protagonist player character. Maybe make it so it all happens coincidentally so the protag is sealed inside the armor for survival on a hostile world without orders from superiors. You can aid Imperium forces but if any Mechanicus or Inquisitorial goons start sniffing about you have to run away back behind enemy lines.
>>724077120>get to kick Druk Fuckin Shits so hard in the teeth they lose all sense of pride and start running back to Commorragh in drives>get to duke it out with giant 30k orks while clas in powered armor >powered axes and Volkite weaponsSounds rad as hell.
>>724061020>Chaos fatigueI know exactly what you mean.I was genuinely shocked and pleasantly surprised while playing the Rogue Trader game by Owlcat.The whole time I was waiting for the reveal that Chaos was behind everything, but for once in a blue moon, chaos is on the back-foot and the main antagonists / manipulators are the xenos. The traitor marines are having to piggyback off of the achievements of others in order to make themselves look competent, and they are just as in the dark about the looming threat as the heroes.I hope GW doesn't force there to be chaos wank in the Dark Heresy game.Also, why is this same exact thread up on /tg/ right now?>>>/tg/96830056
>>724080683Dark heresy has Night Lords front and center. It's a chaos game.
>40k thread heading for page 10 even with a 40k game announcement less than a day oldSad to see it
>>724082631>a darktide complaint thread isn't talking about boltgun 2aint no fuken way
>>724082631>>724082684Well, Boltgun II has Chaos, so I guess the Chaos-fatigue is implicit.
>>724082684Most 40k game threads on /v/ turn into general 40k threads pretty quickly in my experience. Rogue trader is the exception
>>724080683>/tg/>40k also belongs there
>>724079795He was right about leaving the Imperium, he fucked it up when he became a Chaos warband.
>>724078674So all the bad stuff of Chaos at once, with the addiction of the specific factions giving you the shit glare because they assume you're just paying lip service to the Dark Gods.
>>724082684>>724082631I like Darktide. It's fun.I love me Ogyn Twin-Stubber.
>>724085538The stubber has infinite ammo now due to the rations event. It is finally fun to use.
>>724087591it was fun before too, you just have to open boxes and hog ammo
>>724077349Admech are jews, broker applies to them just as well
>>724062275not getting an afterlife is a good thing in 40k considering all the other afterlifes are just different flavours of eternal torture at the hands of demons
>>724061020Come home, Malal man.
>>724071639There are some snippets which does say that the emperor saves the souls of his loyal citizens. Iirc master of mankind also had something on it.
>>724071727>still holding out hope for ChristmasGotta have something to look forward to amirite?
>>724076491Based Volkite enjoyer. I'd play the fuck out of a space boarding simulator set before the days of the Great Crusade. When humanity was more than just a bunch of space serfs playing second fiddle to a golden roach and his antics.
>>724079795>could've became the equivalent of Nassau by carving out his own portion of space that doesn't adhere to Imperial or Chaos autism>still falls for it anyway because nothing can exist outside of these twoThe kino that could've been
>>724077695Not all AI songs are bad, there are some that are legit pure fire.
>>724088648Reject modernity (Malal), return to tradition (Necoho).
>>724089802You know the writer team has low-IQ when they can't escape the duality cliche (same shit in WoW, Starcraft, Star Wars, Halo, etc).
>piss jugs fermenting>mold growing on walls and on my clothing>have a persistent cough>overweight>haven't washed or groomed myself in daysNurgle...I...
>>724090008>there are some that are legit pure fire.This. There is a alot of garbo sloppa out there but you can still find a few gems amongst the shitheaps. >https://youtu.be/iN0EeqOvL4A>https://youtu.be/srDHl8-P7vM>https://youtu.be/GhhdEyYwAeo
>>724076704Orks, Eldar and some Necrons were around. Some of the Votann apparently fought in the Heresy on both sides though thats never been elaborates on. The Heresy is what attracted the Tyranids to start heading for the galaxy. Tau weren't around
>>724090008https://youtu.be/8vrUxgMmJzY
>>724073165if GW were smart they would portray more of these jannies in their media.
>>724092369Yeah jannies are pretty cool. I'm tired of seeing all guardsmen being Cadians. Thankfully they're on their way out and Kriegsmen and Vostroyans will be the new face of the Guard in 11th.
