>you must remove the very concept of change so a bunch of cosmic boomers can chill on their pensions for all eternityYeah nope I'm not doing that.
>>724122080That's like capitalism, where the (((rich))) remain rich without ever working nor allowing anybody else to become rich
>>724123437It's not capitalism per se, it's gerontocracy.
>>724122080This game looks extremely pretentious
>>724123672I thought the same and really didn't get into it for the longest time way back. Give it a chance. The humor roped me in, and I ended up loving the concept. It's schizo kino with me and the boys in my head.
>>724123672No not really. It's just as intellectual as it presents itself to be, no more, no less.
>>724123672>>724123826>>724123943The only thing I didn't like about it is that it's actually a love story (they say it in the disclaimer though) so no moral choice for you. The princess is objectively good, loving, and innocent and the narrator is objectively retarded.
>>724123826>>724123943>>724124078Can you make it ANY more obvious that you're the dev or a paid shill? Fuck off with this garbage ass """""game""""". The jannies would be smart to exile you fuckwits to >>>/vg/ or >>>/trash/ with this absolute tripe. Put the fucking name in the OP or the subject so my fucking filters catch it next time, PLEASE.
>>724124636>the dev or a paid shillIt's out for two years already, nigger.
>>724123437The worst part of capitalism are the nouveau rich and whiny middle class.
>>724124840>YOU are the worst thing GOY check your privileges Yeah whatever.
>>724124757>It's out for two years already, nigger.And Coca-Cola has existed for decades, yet the advertising spam for that insipid, toxic liquid yet continues to this day. Try having an actual argument next time.
Video games are not allowed on video games.>>724124636Buy Onirism btw.
>>724124993I also literally said I have some issues with the game though?
I want to marry Tabitha!Episode 5 comes out February 13. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwZ9wlVV42U
>>724125258>she/her
>>724125343Tabitha is a girl, yes. There are male characters too if that's what you prefer.
>>724125539You always can tell whether a person male or female and in English a male is always his/him and a female is always she/her, and I doubt this thing is a textbook for English learners either.
>>724122080I looked up the devs out of curiosity, and it's a Canadian couple, the wife is the artist and an actual unironic landwhale lmao
>>724126189Yeah and the husband is some sort of brownoid (I thought a spic but if they're canadian he could be a jeet even) so I don't wonder why >>724125343 is a thing but the game in OP was genuinely nice.
Ok
>>724124078Well yes, change is how we've been living since the big bang. Keeping everything frozen is retarded.
>>724124078The one route where the princess stays in the cabin was great.
the mirror thing on day 2(or 3?) felt very repetitive and I don't understand what it does
>>724123437>i'm going to use the term to describe market economics to describe literally everything but economics
>>724129343It's just peering into the crow god, basically showing that the entire universe is still collapsing, and that pays off in the end when the god dissapears.
I stabbed the bitch and regret nothing
>>724129639>be the change you wish to seeDude...
>>724129259Immortality on its own is rather good but the crow's entire position is retarded.
>>724129675Yeah I changed that woman to a dead woman
>>724129806And there'll be no more changes at all, ever. Congrats. *trumpets*
>>724129878Splendid
>>724129492So interacting with it doesn't impact any of the paths?
>>724129934No. Be cautious with the final mirror though.
>>724129973kinda annoying, I kept interacting with it thinking it does something
>>724130013On the third day you always have to interact with it anyway though.
>>724124636jannies side with this game because threads like this and Coffin of Andy & Leyley contain all the Brazillian schizos that plague /v/
>>724130119Both games are legit and based. Seethe sharteen.
What is the difference between the ending where you fight her and the ending where you kill her with a knife besides the Voices being absent?
>>724131134>ending where you fight herAre you aware how little that narrows it down?
>>724134174"Ending" as in the last last ending in the final end. When you were asshole to her throughout all five routs and click the red options and choose not to spare her.
>>724125258I guess ill give it a try when it finally comes out. But I'm not expecting much and apparently it has more words than homestuck.
>>724126189>>724126312Actually, I think The Narrator's position being shit is a direct consequence of the devs being söy: a supposedly white male with British accent can't be good and a chained desperate woman can't be outright evil and demonic.
>>724135693>Narrator’s position is evilIt’s not though, we’re just given no reason to buy into his ideal outcome, which we would only really need to consciously support because his simulation dimensional bullshit is flawed and unable to truly contain the two infinite deities he’s created.
>>724137315I didn't say it's evil. It just sucks so the game practically forces you to be nice to the princess and join her because the other option is plainly retarded.It would be much better if she was actually meant to be evil but it was revealed only in the very end so you be like "oh yeah right, I should've believed my bro even though he was secretive instead of being lured by pussy and distrust" like it always happens irl.
Bump
>>724122080I didn't like how they changed the strange path, I wanted some Eldritch cool shit like in the demo. Where you break everything in a mathematical way. After they got rid of that nothing else looked interesting, Just different.
>>724140153they changed almost all demo designs to be more "cutesy" and while it did lose that whole unnerving feel, it surely was a better option for their sales lmao
I killed her because that's what I was told to do
I would like to once again recommend, "The thief, The Witch, The Toad, and the Mushroom" on steam. It has looping elements just like StP does and only takes about two hours to beat.
>>724140497>on steamI pirated StP doe
>>724140808Don't worry, it's free.
I actually genuinely want to die. Death is important.
>>724123437You hear the voice of the Deep State.The Deep State: "You're on a path, in the woods. At the end of this path is a cabin, in the basement of that cabin is a democratically elected socialist regime. You're here to coup them, if you don't, it will be the end of the Free World."Voice of the Liberal: "We're not actually going to do that right? They chose their self determination. If what they elected is defective, it'll just collapse in on itself, right?"The Deep State: "Ignore him, he doesn't know what he's talking about."You play as the Shining City, a previously sleeping giant who has recently woken up from their isolationist slumber. Which has now found themselves the most powerful nation in the world. In the basement of the cabin are various regimes, of various flavors of revolution and leftism. Whom you can choose to slay, or cooperate with.Inside the cabin is the arsenal of democracy. The arsenal is your implement, you'll need to take it to do this right. Once you enter the basement, the Spirit of Revolution (Princess) will either be friendly or hostile depending on whether you threatened them with the arsenal of democracy. The Shining City, for all its faults, has usually been a beacon of liberty, and some believe cooperation and reform is possible.
>>724143157Cool but amerimuttia is third world, it's not a god or something.
>>724124078>The princess is objectively good, loving, and innocent.t. never took the blade
>>7241434281) she literally always repents and is sorry, even as a fucking animal. 2) I meant the Shifting Mound.
>>724143537>she literally always repents and is sorry>I meant the Shifting MoundShe's the worse one. Only good and loving till you disagree with her, only innocent if you think stealing my Princesses isn't a crime. I'm glad you can tell her to fuck off.
>>724125258she cute
>>724143905>only innocent if you think stealing my Princesses isn't a crimeDo you mean the ending when you walk away constantly? It's literally said she still loves you nevertheless.>till you disagree with herShe only attacks you if you're deliberately and constantly being an asshole and harass her, if you merely disagree she lets you into her heart and lets you kill her.
>>724144291>Do you mean the ending when you walk away constantly?No I mean how She always grabs the Princess at the "end" of their stories>if you merely disagree she lets you into her heart and lets you kill her.She's not letting you into Her heart. Based Voice of the Hero kept a save file of the first meeting and that's how we make it into Her heart
>>724140497That sounds good enough buddy but does it have my wife or wife equivalent?
>>724122080Isn't the act of removing "change" a change in itself?
>>724144628>how She always grabs the Princess at the "end" of their storiesSo what? Those are parts of her and we interact with them only to make us both whole.>kept a save file of the first meeting and that's how we make itAh really? I mean the save thing? Anyway she lets you kill her.
>>724122080t. never has had to engage with the shadow of mortality.
>>724144762Read Epicurus nigger. People stopped fearing death at least 2500 years ago, get a grip.>>724144730Yes, but the changing stops only after the change is removed so it's ok logically.
>>724140394>open game>kill princess immediately>write good review>refund gamesimple as
>>724144982>buy a game in the first placeEwww.
>>724144982it's narratorCHAD o'clock
>>724146289He's not a chad though because the devs made him wrong and retarded.
>>724144754>Those are parts of her and we interact with them only to make us both whole.I think that's where the difference in view stems from. Yours makes more sense once you've finished the game and know how things are supposed to go, but I'm operating more on how it felt from the beginning where I'm just a dude, meant to slay a princess, seeing how my actions change us, and then watching as she gets taken by a pair of hands. I don't really see the final product SM as the same as the Princess in this case, She comes off more as a foreign entity that inserts Herself into the story I'm playing, and abruptly concludes it to task me with doing it again to collect vessels for Her. I fetch more vessels in this case not because I care that they're meant to build Her up, but because it's the only way the game lets me keep experiencing the Princess and all the ways my actions shape her(I guess I could just keep starting new games to avoid that, but that's just extra work for less content).
>>724147314Wither way, the Shifting Mount is still absolutely not hostile neither to you nor to the world so the point stands.
Okay but what if I just want to slay the princess not because she's secretly an eldritch abomination, but because she's a disgusting femoid?
>>724147624That's based but not really justified, as she actually loves you (because she's not a real woman but a god). It would be much better if it was also justified.
>>724147624Well then you still end up with the best ending
>>724123672it is, and the voice actor for the woman is a fat blob of a whore
>>724147787It's not how you get it though.
>>724124636You got me. I'm John Princessslayer himself.
>>724147802The male actor is awesome though, I started to like British English once again because of him.
>>724147808Sure it is. You can get all the other finale endings regardless of your choices, but this one's only available by being absolutely vile to the Princess in every route leading up to the finale.
>>724148023Yes but why would you discard your reward after the first kill?
>>724148125That little void cabin is not a reward. You've got to think bigger.
>>724131134The voices being absent is a heavy clue as to what the difference is. The cut between the slayer and the princess wasn't clean. There is a piece of her residing in you that changes with perception, specifically the different voices. Likewise, there's a piece of you within her that never changes, specifically her heart. When you stab her in the final cabin, you're merely suppressing her within you in order to maintain the minimal amount of change the Narrator intended. When you completely reject her in the new ending, you exterminate every aspect of her, thus creating a world trapped in an infinite loop of a mere moment, incapable of change.
>>724148332Why would you be so evil though? She loves you.
>>724123437The whole point of capitalism is creating a minority of impossibly wealthy elites who live in utter luxury while everyone else suffers. The suffering is the goal, and the deliberate unfairness makes the suffering better.
>>724148429Thanks for a good analysis, though I thought it's actually the opposite: in the heart ending you remove all change and stay in an empty void of a world while in the ebil ending you only remove death along and not all change and keep an earth-like world to change by yourself.
>>724148524Why not? I'm only doing what the game lets me. If she truly loves an absolute bastard she simply has to accept the consequences.
>>724148617Throw a wrench in the capitalist misery machine and kill yourself
>>724148871She doesn't love an absolute bastard though and you going through this route is the only time when she's genuinely mad at you.
>>724148954>She doesn't love an absolute bastard thoughSure she does. If you immediately say yes to joining her, she's no different from any other route infact. It's really only when I decide that I disagree with her, which was always the problem for her
>>724123437Death is the reset for all human society. Imagine a future where death is staved, longevity is established. Wealth/power/corruption/power will further be crystalized for a long period of time.
>>724149910Again this >>724147787 ending is achieved not by disagreement which causes you to get into her heart but by you being an asshole. We go in circles.
>>724148879The world exists to maximize suffering for the sake of maximizing suffering. You shouldn't even derive any pleasure from committing evil deeds. You should doing evil because... well, because! You must become a mindless automaton that only exists to run a program over and over again. You must forfeit your sapience.
>words words words words wordswhateverI just want to fuck the Adversary
anons who left us just before queen of /v/ are extremely uncool.
>>724150239Disagreement is what starts the entire fight sequence where she brings out the vessels. Not "I want to slay you," even just "I have some questions" instead of "Lets go together."From there you can surrender to her or keep disagreeing which either leads to the cabin endings or to that ending if you use the red optionsSo she's fine with an asshole as long as he's willing to agree with her.
>>724124078>The princess is objectively good, loving, and innocentThat's true, but she's also objectively evil, hateful, and guilty.
>>724151624>the entire fight sequenceHow is it a fight?
>>724126189They live in Canada now but they're burgers. Abby's from North Carolina (which is why Scarlet Hollow is set there) and Tony's from New Jersey.>>724135693If they hate white men they wouldn't have hired one to voice the Narrator, and hired another one to do the music for both of their games.
Um, wasn't the previous thread supposed to be the last one? Was I depressed over nothing?
>>724151246I don't think many anons have left, and maybe some will come back.
>>724152041Well, she starts assuming an aggressive stance, the music intensifies and the tone shifts. Sure she's not punching or kicking you, it's more a battle of words and ideas. Except your words don't matter unless they're the red ones
>>724151246The ones that came during and after weren't much better. The defender posting was especially cringe
>>724148617Why do marxists keep trying to talk about economics?
>>724152465It was just the last one the regular thread maker says he'd be making, that won't stop anyone who wants to to make one, of course. Just expect them to be of a different sort going forward
>>724152465>>724153845Idk I made a thread yesterday with the same pic but fell asleep and it died.
>>724152354Why is the narrator retarded then
>>724153204It's not about Marxism or economics. It's about suffering.
>>724153926it's not like all StP threads reached bump limit and beyond that, most people are used to the saturday thread
>>724156160Oh there's a Saturday thread?
>>724156198https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/subject/Slay%20the%20princess/Yes, we agreed to make a thread every Saturday. All other threads are 'unofficial', so to speak. This week was an exception because Thursday was the anniversary.
>>724122080The Narrator was right btw, deathists neednt reply
>>724157241It's not just death, it's change.
>>724157771A universe with less change will be just fine, it's not like its 100% dead
>>724158309Without the princess there's 0 change, it's 100% dead.
>>724158659>Without the princess there's 0 changenot necessarily
Lay the princess.
>>724159105This comes down to a trouble with the definition of the word "change" and how it relates to perspective and scale. It changes for a moment, but loops back that moment over and over again for all eternity, resulting in no change at all on any scale outside that moment.
>>724158659Patently, verifiably untrue
>>724160263>It changes for a momentThen it depends on how big the "moment" is. Is it a second, a year, the time from the big bang till the heat death of the universe? The game doesn't really specify so I guess it can be as long or short as you want
what's the optimal princess simp run to end the game?I guess 1 of them is the maiden route and the other is the one where you help her flee by beheading her, but what are the other 3?
>>724160919Time means nothing in the maw of forever
>>724161178I am SO using that line, AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
>>724161069It's Razor of course
>>724162145how is that a simp route?
>>724157241I'm going to have myself frozen on the off chance that I can make that Family Guy Frozen Disney joke IRL.
>>724162307Razor wants to kill you over and over, and you let her kill you over and over without properly trying to stop her. What is that if not high tier simping? You're literally giving up your life to make her laugh.
>>724157241If I get access to genie wishes one of my wishes is fucks like you get sent straight to hell
