all of them sound like slop i've never heard of which one is the best so i can make my agp faggot boyfriend play it on stream.

Visual novels aren't actual games.

>>724356993
Hard to pick a #1, but if you want an officially published game, do my mad scientist roommate turned me into her personal robotic battle maiden (which is one of the Lachlanverse games)

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>>724356770
>Re:dreamer
dev is an actual nut case. find jesus or something dude.
>lachlanverse
kinda low quality, but actually finished games.
>student transfer
can you clowns pick a route and stick with it.
>magical camp
peak but forever unfinished.

>>724356770
>Transgender fetish game
Gender bender =/= trans, but I know the kinds of games you're talking about. Still waiting for the gender bender game that's actually good. Wish magical camp was finished so bad.

>>724356770
HATE

>>724356770
Gender bender > femboy hypnosis sissy fetishization. Unfortunately most games with the former are shit.

Flipwitch: Forbidden Sex Hex is about as far as I'll go with the concept. It has the right about of whimsy

>>724358514
Flipwitch didn't really feel like a genderswap game, it was a platformer that randomly spat out sex scenes.

>>724358483
I want my femboy hypnosis game, and those are all shit. Is it too much to ask for a game about cute boys instead of only "You're a failed male, now you're going to get cucked" garbage? I look for femboy stuff because I like femboys, any game that insults them is also insulting it's players.

>>724356770
can anyone say if these games are gender bender, fictional scenario where a character is able to change biology to be equivalent of the opposite gender (as defined by genetic composition resulting in being born with either penis or vagina), or transgender fiction, writing where the author believes the definition of gender is different than the one previously mentioned?

>>724359061
Hard to tell what the writers actually believe, but most of them feature actual genderswap rather than saying some girls have penises. Didn't finish/play all the games OP posted, but mice tea sucker punched me with it's routes that are blatantly about affirming troons more than genderswap or cute furry girls, so that annoyed me.

Been a long time since I played any of "LachedUpGames"'s visual novels. I remember them being pretty funny and some of the characters are really cute, but they change completely between entries, and the world building annoys me in all the worst ways.

>>724356770
If they would actually finish one of them, I'd enjoy it. Instead I just fap to gender bender tag on panda and occasionally replay Xhange Alternative

>>724360936
Read any good ones recently? I read "I'm Not the One to Be Made into a Girl!", and was immediately disappointed that none of that artist's other stuff is translated.

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>>724356770
i bought the physical edition years ago that came with this lovely print
the box is in storage somewhere

>>724362154
What's your favorite character and favorite route?

>>724362294
i havent played it
i bought it to support local game dev

Faggotry for ERPing troons and groomers, belongs on >>>/trash/

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2007 /v/ loved this kind of shit. 2025 /v/ also loves it but in secret, and deflects by repeating pre-programmed anti-trans Israeli psyop talking points.

>>724362948
I'm anti trans because I love this kinds of games, and trannies activists are killing them.

>>724363021
This

Press Switch was one of my favourites. Could get pretty dark at times though.
Disappointed that it's just fucking dead now. It felt like a game that would have no update for a few years then come back with an update.

>>724363021
based

>>724356770
I like TSF shit, but the absolute fucking state of the genre in the west is despair inducing.
>magical camp
dead in the fucking water, only one I actually cared for either

>>724364189
>the absolute fucking state of tfgamessite
Don't you just love opening the site and seeing nothing but a mixture of sissy, gay, blacked, cuckold, life sim html shit? Man, at least rags filtered people.

>>724364574
>Don't you just love opening the site and seeing nothing but a mixture of sissy, gay, blacked, cuckold, life sim html shit?
Now with additional AI generated content to improve the creative process.

>>724364574
That happens because tagging as the only means of searching games is fundamentally flawed. My ideal system would be one where you can find reviewers with similar tastes to your, then find what other games they've played and liked.

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>>724356770
I only like genderbender when it happens to femboys and their faces stay the same but their bodies become immensely voluptuous with colossal tits and ass and they're embarrassed by the whole ordeal and still want to be thought of as men but at the same time their feminine hormones kick in and it makes them super lustful for cock and desperate to be impregnated.

https://e-hentai.org/g/1384492/235a54cabd/

>Last active: Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:45 am

REVILO ISN'T DEAD
WE'RE SO BACK

So what personality changes do you like to see caused by gender swap, and which take you out of the story?

>>724366517
I prefer the mental side of the equation to remain completely unchanged.

>>724366628
I mostly agree, which is why the only changes I like are being more easily intimidated/pressured (Because smaller body) and sexuality change (Because pussy) rather than having a character suddenly declare that they love the color pink and belong in the kitchen.

>>724366517
Preferably as few as possible, any there may be should only be caused by the new excess of estrogen coursing through their veins.

Genderswap that makes the character unrecognizable physically or mentally from their male self is shit-tier.

>>724356770
that art is atrociously unsexy.

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>>724356770
>magical camp
Peak, especially Alice and Tilia.
Absolute tragedy that it's been abandoned.
>lachlanverse
Bretty good, still need to play his latest.
>Re:dreamer
The premise had potential, but Cap seemingly got groomed on discord and lost his mind.
>student transfer
The definitional example of "too many chefs spoil the broth".

I'll also mention Better Earth since it's somewhat unique, actively developed, and nearly complete.
It kind of flops for self-insert since the genital change is an irreversible poof right at the beginning and subsequent feminization is mostly optional or incidental with limited integration into the gameplay or narrative. The MC is also rarely ever involved in sexual activities. It gets better later on with character classes (hucow, dryad, demidragon) and temporary transformations.
That said, what sets the game apart is that its focus is typically the mass transformation of NPCs, both incidentally and due to player actions. Some NPCs are recurring, others are one-offs, and it ranges from poofs to gradual masturbatory sessions.

>>724356770
gender swap gas is a kino premise with how retarded it is but i will never read/play dna twister extreme because its art is too ugly

>>724358642
i was deeply unsatisfied with it somehow having zero gender bender fetish content despite the name

>>724369020
>Better earth
I couldn't think of a game title harder to search for. Maybe "Weather forecast" or "Cake recipes".

>>724369408
https://tfgames.site/?module=viewgame&id=1864
billions must die in service of the abbreviation

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>>724369568
Oh damn it.

>>724369717
>I've pretty much mapped out the end of the game. After this new area there are about two more major story events, then the finale. Still working on the side areas, but the end is in sight.

>>724369978
Please make a thread when it's finally done.

>>724363021
>be into weird fetish porn
>get frustrated with people who treat the topic with reverence as if it's not weird fetish porn
comedies end in weddings, no, life is a farce

>>724366517
Absolutely none. The best kind of mental TF, TSF or not, is compulsions which can be consciously resisted, just like the ordinary libido. It's then up to the character to resist or indulge.

I tolerate temporary mind control for the purposes of advancing a porn plot, but it's a really lazy narrative device.

>>724370239
Trannies have a fundamentally different world view than me.

I believe that there is no right or wrong way to be a boy or a girl. The only hard rule is who they get to be in a changing room with. The appeal of a genderswapped character is that they get to play with those dynamics. A boy turns into a girl, and gets badgered into trying girly things by his friend then discovers he likes them, maybe even sticking with the new hobbies when he turns back. A girl turns into a guy and has trouble putting together an outfit she likes from her boyfriend's wardrobe. A good gender swap story exposes gender roles and puts it's main character in a place to make judgements on them, usually deciding that their previous perspective was too strict, or growing to appreciate facets of one or both genders that they didn't consider before.

Trannies and trans allies believe the opposite. The defining belief of trans ideology isn't that science is capable of changing genders, it's that some people are born wrong and have a medical need to live according to a specific gender role. Additionally, they are incapable of following that gender role unless they have undergone medical treatment to alter their body and everyone they meet recognizes them as a member of that gender. It's a deeply regressive, and when they make games and stories, they write all the characters to reinforce those beliefs.

So it's not a matter of reverence vs irreverence. In gender swap games made for trannies, the gender swapped character always goes "I now realize how broken I was before, and can never go back! Becoming a girl has made me whole!" which I find disgusting. I think that while a character might have a preference for what gender they like being more, maybe even an extremely strong preference, no well adjusted person is incapable of living as either gender.

>>724371417
Resistible compulsions are still personality changes though, no? Which compulsions do you like seeing?

Are there any good genderbender games where the MC is not the one being transformed? Where you're transforming other people instead.

>>724372468
The only remotely applicable one that comes to mind is Free Cities, but that's probably not what you're looking for.

>>724372590
I already played it, and it does get some stuff right but is not really my thing. I just want to engineer a harem of cute girls(male) and girls(female) to fuck.

>>724372468
Good? No, can't think of any. Ones that I know of and have played? "Transformation tycoon" was okay, but not a hot or a focused experince. "Naked ambition" is a raising sim where you can turn the princess you're training into a futa, if that counts.

Feels really dumb that there's no game like that, but it seems only subs make porn games.

>>724372775
>Catch boy.
>Forcibly transform him
>Throw HER into your adoring harem
>Watch her try to pretend she's still a boy as they push her to embrace it
>Watch her realize that only some of her new friends were born female
>Invite her out of the harem room, either on a date or for brainwashing.
>Doesn't matter, she's already almost half broken in.

Someone really needs to make it.

>>724356770
wow, picrel is such a throwback to like when i was 8? 9? 10? 11? who knows. i used to be obsessed with finding gender bender anything online, and this was one of the longest form gender bender content i could find that i didn't have to pay for (youtube playthroughs) im leaving this thread immediately after saying this though. I dont imagine ill have a particularly productive time thinking about this for any longer or talking about this any deeper.

>>724371632
well-said for the most part

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>>724373819
Thanks. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this, not just because it comes up often but also because I write my own indulgent transformation stories, and I like them to have a bit more substance than just sex. That poster that implied I don't take this stuff seriously because I'm horny for it did get under my skin a little.

>>724374013
I spent some time thinking about your comments, debating whether youre just naive, and narrowminded, sympathizing with some of your gripes in theory. Or whether to just go the route of calling you dumb and too much in your own head. Or whether to ignore you. I dont think ive seen enough from you for me to feel it worth the effort to write a dissertation on why youre wrong and why you shouldnt think the way you did. But I wanted to make this post anyway. To plant the seed of doubt, and see if you would demonstrate any of the capacities for critical thought and consider whether youre misguided about the peoples you dislike, or rather the perception you have of them. Because there is a lot to dislike and be critical of the trans community for, even for a trans person, not that it matters whether the critique comes from one or not.
Im also bored. And I dont have a lot of faith in the people here, let alone you, to go beyond my expectations, but im curious anyway.

>>724375118
Okay? I'm waiting. You aren't going to just call me narrowminded and lacking in critical thought then refuse to present your own reasoning, are you? That would be rude. Don't goad someone then walk away.

I'll admit, the weakest part of my post is my narrow definition of trans ideology. I know there's lot's of trans people who don't fit into that. The reason I go with it is because it's the version of trans ideology I see most often behind people who argue for trans representation in games and people who make trans art. Some people who call themselves trans girls are what I would call femboys, and the only disagreement I have with them is semantic. though I would still argue that they consider different labels for themself strongly My grievance is with the people who say things like Bridget in strive is an improvement, or Ralsei is secretly trans, because what those people are arguing for leads to boxing people in to gender roles they were born with, and a world where everyone is less free to express themselves. The people who made the Mice Tea VN.

But with that clarification, I stand by what I said. People who believe in trans ideology cannot make a game that will resonate with me or people that share my worldview.

>>724376257
>Okay? I'm waiting. You aren't going to just call me narrowminded and lacking in critical thought then refuse to present your own reasoning, are you? That would be rude. Don't goad someone then walk away.
Maybe. Depends on if the thread is alive when I wake up. I need to sleep, i just sent this post impulsively because I was bored and couldn't sleep. Its food for thought and I wanted you to prove you were worth the effort of showing why youre wrong and changing your mind, because there are some thing you said which im somewhat sympathetic to, in theory, or on principle of how things to be written, but the basis is all wack.
Lets hope the thread lives, if not today, then in another future.

>>724357596
>dev is an actual nut case.
This. The guy is dying from a disease or something, and the fags convinced him to transition. Now he's miserable and dying.

>>724356770
>student transfer
>scenarios are an absolute gold mine of concepts
>none of them will never get expanded upon or finished
I hate the tf scene so much its unreal

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>>724363021
it's true, can't have a discussion about tsf/gender bender anymore without having it instantly getting overrun by troonspeak
fuck off trannies, i don't care about real life, i just want to talk about 2d dudes getting turned into real girls in peace

>>724377098
Remember back in ye olden days when Fictionmania had more than Sissy Hypno Transition Tale Episode 29182

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>>724371679
>Which compulsions do you like
Mainly related to sexuality or something which furthers a transformation, but I don't mind stereotypical girly behaviors.

>>724372468
>Where you're transforming other people
aside from the three already mentioned:
TG Emblem and Yasmor Uprising are both made in SRPG Studio and feature the collection of warrior waifus, vol and invol. I think the protagonists can transform as well.

Town of Redemption is a VN with minor management where you play as an alchemist and transform members of the adventurers' guild. Mostly furry/anthro, aside from the MC, a slime, and an elf.

CoC, TiTS, Starwatch Academy, and many others in the html RPG genre have plenty of transformable NPCs.

Restoration of Aphrodesia: RPG where you can and should deliberately transform your many minions into various forms for combat purposes
Parasite Infection: last I heard this game had become a broken mess, but I remember several acts where the player infests a space station, contemporary town, and alien city with transformative parasites
Valley Girls: 3DPD management game where you need to operate a brothel in a mining outpost populated entirely by men

there are plenty more, but this list is off the top of my head and already stretching the definition of "good"

>>724371632
>Additionally, they are incapable of following that gender role unless they have undergone medical treatment to alter their body and everyone they meet recognizes them as a member of that gender.
but this is wrong, plenty do all that gender role stuff before surgery or hormones and without passing at all. a lot of trans people had a long prior life as a stereotypical flaming homo

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>>724372468
?

games are cool and all, but eventually you've got to just do it irl

X-Change
You fucking zoomoids.
>get pranked
>your best friend rapes you
It keeps happening!

I love Lachlanverse games, but the author seems to have bad memories of the GBDNATE dev times

>>724377801
Remember when you could navigate to CYOC most recent and not be drowned in a sea of
>Kid
>A
>Anthro
>AR
>Reality Alteration

>>724362154
based

>>724372468
Pact with a Witch, kind of. your male chauvanist roommate pisses off a witch and you get to deal with the fallout.
plot complete but the dev is forevrially drawing and re-drawing new art for the CGs.

it's mostly about fucking your estranged half-succubus sister though.

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>>724372468
>tfw no dungeon keeper like game where you can subject the invaders to various fates

>>724382480
There aren't? Seems like something that should have been done already.

>>724366517
Situational, for example acting diferently around men because now they look comparatively bigger or more treatning, etc.

>>724382559
there's the Deception games but they're just Japanese dungeon keeper.

>>724382559
there's Pretty Warrior May Cry but its incredibly basic

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>>724363021
this.
Part of the appeal of TSG/GB for me was how taboo and surreal it was. I mean, a man becoming a woman, that was such a fucking surreal thing to imagine. You take one thing and you transform it into something completely different, and yet it’s still the same person inside. Then trannies found out about it and immediately latched onto it pretending it’s all about them and trying to blur the lines between man and woman. Now a man turning into a woman is just seen as le heckin stunning and brave. And even here on the TSG/GB general in /d/ there’s ALWAYS some fucking loser from /lgbt/ trying to coax people into becoming trannies or otherwise trying to associate trannies with TSF/GB. Then these fucking niggers cry about how transgenderism is seen as a fetish gone wrong.
I don’t even mind trannies on paper, but good fucking Lord, trannies are the Catholics of the modern age - a bunch of deranged lunatics constantly trying to force their religion onto everything and crying out and striking when you call them out on it

Which of the Lached games are actually worth playing? They’re each like twenty bucks on Steam and I’m too much of a pussy to pirate eroge

>>724383130
They're all in the same universe, so you might miss some jokes and references here and there, but they're all pretty funny, YMMV on artstyle.

Max's Big Bust leads to MBB2

Allune and Brie is its own storyline

Robotic Battle Maid is its own storyline

You could also get Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme if you really like late 00s DeviantArt style

>>724382480
Tfw, no Overlord Bob game.

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I like this, too bad there isn't so many TG transformations

>>724382480
>dungeon keeper like game
pitch it

>>724371632
Beautifully said. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - transgenderism and identity politics are inherently sexist and regressive by definition. We went from “if you display a single feminine trait, we’re gonna smack you with a ruler until you learn to act your gender” to “you can be whoever you want to be” and then trannies set us back to “if you display a single feminine trait, we’re gonna pump you with hormones until you learn to act a ridiculous and sexist stereotype of the gender we want you to be”. A girl can’t just play Hot Wheels anymore, she HAS to cut her breasts off and take steroids. A boy can’t just play with Barbies anymore, he HAS to cut his dick off and take estrogen. And what you end up with is a ridiculous and outdated stereotype of the opposite gender. Ellen Page went from being her own woman to some ridiculous shmuck constantly forcing herself to prove her masculinity to everyone. Jessica Yaniv went from being his own man to a ridiculous broad constantly trying to prove his femininity to everyone. Why? Because they were told it’s “liberating and empowering” to lock yourself into a suffocating standard that erases your very identity and turns it into a cartoon. God forbid anyone is free to be who he or she wants to be without some so called progressive telling him/her how to act

>>724383624
Appreciate the support, but please try to keep it about video games at least tangentially.

>>724382828
It's the same types of people that try to claim futa is a slur against trans people. God it makes my blood boil.

>>724383275
>Overlord Bob
now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time

people complain about trannies ruining gender bender / tf, yet these threads always seem to just be full of people complaining about trannies and no actual trannies doing the stuff that's being complained about

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>>724382828
>>724383775
Hate to say it since I largely agree, but the people trying to normalize being trans and the people saying all porn has to be about trannies are probably different people. Also >>724383856 has a point, better to make your point by talking about a specific trans game dev or a trans character than gesturing at the state of /d/.

>>724376391
>>724375118
NTA but
>i'm not gonna bother explaining why but you're wrong anyways
is not an intelligent way to start a discussion. Either present an actual argument or stay quiet. Spreading around baseless arguments is exactly why society and this board in particular are in the shape that they is. The burden of proof lies on your kind in particular since the trans acceptance movement is, you know, a MOVEMENT. Progressives need to put in extra effort to convince conservatives why the old ways aren’t working anymore and why we must all work together fix what isn’t broken. If you want people to understand and empathize with you, you need to be a little more convincing than writing an entire paragraph to basically just call someone stupid. Though if that was your goal all along, I can demonstrate you an easier way to insult someone - You’re stupid. See? Much easier

>>724371632
>>724383624
this is such an extreme position
yeah maybe a few trannies genuinely think that if you display whatever gender stereotypes that you have to transition. But most don't. Trannies are more accepting of non-conformity than pretty much anyone else
at the same time if saying that people have to transition even if they don't want to wrong, so is saying that people can't transition even if they do want to, right? I hope you're against both people saying that some people have to transition, and also people saying that other people shouldn't transition. If you're not in favor of letting people do what they want with their body, including hormones and surgery, you're just as bad as the people you complain about.

>>724383856
for the sake of your narrative, never go into an Onimai thread

>>724383934
>better to make your point by talking about a specific trans game dev
Re:dreamer has been mentioned multiple times in this thread. Learn to read

>>724384006
>If you want people to understand and empathize with you
maybe the first step is to lay off the chemical castration pills that make you schizophrenic and end up as another wanted person by the feds

>>724385049
I meant in your post. Your specific point would be made more strongly with specifics that are relevant to the subject everyone in this thread hypothetically shares an interest in.

>>724383856
>>724383934
three of the four games in the OP were substantially impacted by the discord grooming epidemic
>inb4 source
I saw it happen
personally
on discord

one of the most promising new games in recent years radically veered into anachronistic gender politics with its first major update
the red flags were there since the beginning, but I presume that the author's lived experiences were the motivation for the aunt hysterically screaming "you'll never be a real woman" at the magically feminized MC, in a medieval world of magic where magic things happen magically, including the MC magically becoming a real woman via magic

there's also at least one unhinged troonposter in the thread attacking an anon who typed out a thoughtful post explaining what he gets out of TSF
don't try to fucking gaslight us

>>724356770
They're made by and for sadistic man haters who can't appreciate the beauty of the male body and want to destroy it. Truly the lowest form of porn made for the world's most disgusting people.

>>724364189
What do you expect? Trannies are like 0.01% of the population. That reflects in the amount of porn.

>>724356770
Yeah, call me when I can get a harem of tight locked bitches of all colours and body types. I don't want to play as one.

>>724385049
qrd on re:dreamer?

>>724382825
It's based off the badman games rather than dk so yeah.

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>nobody has mentioned this absolute banger

>>724385648
It's shit but it was always shit, 3rd rate Press Switch you got to after you finished Student Transfer and got done with all the good scenarios. Trying to argue that trannies ruined it would imply that it was ever good to begin with.

>>724386029
I remember it being buggy and couldn't progress after reaching the desert, wasn't awful up to that point, at least if you don't mind copious amounts of super low res stolen art for your CGs.

>>724386029
>>724365860

>>724386131
I'd say most bugs are gone at this point, although the desert is notoriously annoying to get through due to how aimless some of the quests are, the forest zone beyond is definitely the games peak.

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Biggest disappointment ever produced.

>>724386241
I think I vaguely remember this one? Abandonware?

>>724386293
No it's actually getting updates, but it's a fucking crawl of actual content we're +4years? and there still only content for like 3 or so characters that doesn't even go that far.

>>724379101
I couldn't get into the original trilogy, but Alternative is my favorite VN on the topic. Wish 2 got translated.

>>724386113
Didn't he work on a Student Transfer route?
>sayaka swap student transfer route
>mental changes put in place so he has to act like her
>iirc insults his friends at one point and he feels bad because he can't help it
>like right after he talks about sci-fi shit in class which he shouldn't be able to do
>people point this out for making no sense

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P-S is the Peak of western TSF and nothing is ever going to surpass the substitute teacher bad end in 0.4, I have nothing further to add to this discussion but felt I had to say it.

>>724386818
Can't remember that one specially but I think he did do a really old scenario with John swapping with college women that was very brief.

>>724386871
It was the twininng route for me that never got finished. I liked how it had 3 variations where it ended
>mind controlled into loving it
>not liking it
>actually thinking it was fun

>>724386871
too bad the dev crashed out due to actual schizophrenia, had to dig hard to try and find this shit and apparently he went as far as scrubbing archive links because he's afraid of some gangstalker living inside his attic

>>724386871
So where do I find that? It's too generic to search

>>724387059
Haven't played it, but love twinning. Is it worth it, even though it's unfinished?

>>724387135
Not them but I'm pretty sure it's Press Switch.

>>724387135
Check VNDB for the archive link
>20GB

>>724362154
Where have I seen that artstyle before?

>>724387154
Twinning is pretty low in P-S, although there are a couple of instances of it, like the school mass twinning short ends. I'd say you're better off just reading the memswap route in Student Transfer if you haven't already.

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>>724387236
Reminds me of

>>724387154
It's only a day long and not much really happens, it was more the potential and thoughts of what could happen that made it good.
As said, Press Switch only has a few twinning content and most short or at the end of a route.

>>724386113
>Trying to argue that trannies ruined it would imply that it was ever good to begin with.
I'm not 100% in the know about this topic, but my understanding is rather that THE AUTHOR was ruined by groomers, not the game itself. Pretty sure I remember seeing him ranting about how much he hates he hates the whole "egg cracking" thing, both in and out of the game.

>>724388502
I doubt that, the autogynphila thing has been in the game since it's initial release.

>>724388695
>I doubt that, the autogynphila thing has been in the game since it's initial release.
I have no idea how this statement correlates to what I posted.

My problem with these games is that it takes too fucking long before you lose the dick. I have to deal with the faggot sissy shit for way too goddamn long before it becomes acceptable TF material I can fap to. Way too much fag shit these days.

Also they keep forcing the big titty option on me. Lose me with that shit. And fuck the bimbo crap as well.

>>724356770
Troon angle kills my dick everything else is neat.

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Play my game, /v/.

>>724391338
is it good for you?

>>724390332
I would prefer a game in which the gender swap itself happens at the inciting incident, but your appearance doesn't change as much at first and gradually is molded by your actions. Basically you go from the male mc to a female version of the male mc with understated sexually dimorphic characteristics that become more exaggerated as the game progresses based on actions taken.

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>>724391338
cute

>>724391502
>your appearance doesn't change as much at first and gradually is molded by your actions
You're welcome:
https://tfgames.site/?module=viewgame&id=3381

>>724391338
I started it and honestly, I wandered around the lab and mansion having no idea what the fuck to do.
I saw people say you can change your hair colour, but I have no idea how to do it or if I need to play more.

>>724391338
I liked it, but I think you're starting to get way too up your ass when it comes to all of the goddamn puzzles.

>>724391736
That functionality unlocks with story progression. There's a comprehensive, albeit outdated walkthrough on f95 for the puzzles. Though you don't really need it for the story.

>>724392018
People voted more gameplay. I added more gameplay. If it were completely up to me, well, writing is the only enjoyable aspect.

>>724392268
I'll keep playing then.

>>724391338
I remember I've seen this game around before but never tried it because it looked too freaky to be hot.

>>724391502
https://f95zone.to/threads/between-v0-16-0-6six6.248520/
beware, very heavy on gameplay and story, extremely light on porn, but its exactly what you asked for

>>724391502
I prefer this as well.

>>724392782
Already playing it, stopped to do a full The Last Sovereign playthrough when the last story update hit. Which is now out, complete and on steam for free. Not relevant to the thread, but last time it was brought up people noted they weren't aware of it being free on steam.

>>724391716
Also played through it. Not enough story for me to get invested, but was worth a couple runs.

>>724392268
It all depends on where you poll. f95 will want better renders, /v/ wants gameplay, /d/ wants narrative or fetishes, /gif/ wants animations. Know your audience, don't let a skewed sample hinder your vision

who are the good tf artists?

>>724393298
I mean there is some TG in TLS with Estaven who can get reverse raped into his existence getting snuffed out, although there's no scene, would be kino if someone actually wrote it though

>>724393489
>renders
>3d porn games
Yuck.

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>>724383528
well you'd have you wide selection of traps and monsters that'll either transform, enslave or break invaders into serving you, or be used to enhance your existing assets through possession or parasitism

invaders would be split into two types, adventurers and heroes, adventurers are generic mobs, with maybe a handful of interactions but are just mostly a resource for you to consume, heroes on the other hand are actual characters who you can subject to various fates and interact with during and after

>>724394681
oh and you'd also be able to reverse everything let people go, memory wiped or otherwise, as a way to manage your dungeons infamy/fear to attract different adventurers and heroes

>>724393865
Mestan and Lillith are also kinda sorta tsf adjacent. Doesn't really get into it enough for it to really matter, but its lightly touched on.

>>724394345
If you see a highly rated game on f95, odds are it has high quality renders. Most of the "people" there are esl, both creators and reviewers, so the quality of the narrative and text is less important to score than it should be.

>>724382480
>>724394681
>>724394986
There is something adjacent to this with that game called Manor, which is a strategy focused game about TG'ing people who happen upon your base manor, with the standard Maid TF as the default but also the ability to make them succubus and some other monster TFs.

>>724395730
yeah I've played it, very promising, just needs more tf options and maybe some more interaction options and it'll be an excellent mechanics focused tf game

>>724396115
Yeah the whole traitor mechanic is really underbaked and celestial jannies need to be better as a punishment mechanic for the game, but it's the closet proxmity there is to a strategy TG game.

Still early in development, but lots of tfs
https://tfgames.site/?module=viewgame&id=3499

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>>724386241
Isn't this being developed by the same guy who made Cursed (RAGS)?

>>724396376
Yes.

>>724394681
>>724394986
I put together a prototype of more or less this exact premise (with hucows) last year after I saw someone attempt something similar in Twine. If I ever stop being lazy and get it into a playable state, I'll shill it here.

>>724396561
sounds interesting, best of luck anon

>>724395730
>There is something adjacent to this with that game called Manor
I know of that one, but haven't checked it out because I saw the same dev is making like 10 different games that all look very similar and it just makes me think this person is probably too indecisive to actually get anything to a playable state.

>>724371632
>Trannies and trans allies believe the opposite. The defining belief of trans ideology isn't that science is capable of changing genders, it's that some people are born wrong and have a medical need to live according to a specific gender role.

Its a very weird community seemingly suffering from its own brand of chronically online posturing which weirdly makes coming to terms as an individual with your own perception of gender roles more difficult because apparently boys can't like girly stuff and and girls can't like boy stuff without seemingly being told you're broken and need to transition to fix it.

What's doubly weird is how it exists on either end of the political spectrum with the left taking an oxymoronic stance of claiming choosing your gender being your gender, full stop, while also signal boosting how special it is to be trans. Same old the-left-eating-itself nonsense where trans women are women when they want access to women spaces, but you can't let a woman take a trans person's space because they think they're more marginalized. Meanwhile the trannies on the right have a self-hatred of their own degeneracy while still embracing it as a medical situation requiring intervention outside of the ones who have the sense to frolic around in a girly girl dress in the privacy of their own home.

>>724393524
for me its wrenzephyr, fenek, hugoverse, kobi and mr dna

>>724397439
He does admit most of the game are minor tech demos he does on the side making Manor, but even I'm not exactly sure what Manor's supposed to be?? Man making vertical slices when his cake not even mixed yet...
>>724385648
Essentially, the author was making a pretty standard TSF game, though always tinged with the notion of actual transexuality content. You can control how much the MC was already trans compared to just autogynephilic, with the game even ribbing him for it ("You get a random app that lets you make anyone and turn yourself into them, and your first thought was to make YOURSELF with H-cup tits and an ass too big for man jeans?"). Several other variables can be controlled that controls how much the MC was a Chaos;Head-tier schizo, a shut-in, horny, or sarcastic alongside the AGP slider, so it wasn't just about a trans story.

Somewhere down the line, the author developed some intense disease and got into some strange familial problems, and this started affecting the game development. And for some reason, his fans and Discord pushed him towards HRT and coming out as trans. And he basically turned the game into his lifestory. This included cutting out routes and objectional content, putting more focus into his lesbian fantasy route over the male or self-absorbed routes, pushing his parental relationship as a main route instead of a side branch, so on and so forth. Now it IS a trans story. Flash forward to now, where now the game just doesn't get made at all at any consistent click. I think his progress reports full of emotional oversharing has more text than what goes into the average update. It's frankly absurd how much he shifted and still hurting himself.

also I think he got a bit oneshotted by AI slop stories. I remember he had something of a phase and got really caught up in captioning that stuff. Was interesting for a time, but can't say that helped his fragile ego/mental state...

>>724397524
>he got a bit oneshotted by AI slop stories
Understandable. With a little guidance and editing, those chatbots are putting out better smut than most real writers. They still have a detectable voice, but it's getting harder to spot with each passing month.

>>724396376
Hadn't seen pic before, is it worth looking into?

>>724356770
The fucking steam reviews all complain about it not being a transgender allegory

>>724400853
His games are okay, but they get very repetitive, and each route is short with a couple of endings.
I wish he'd pick 1-3 transformations and make a longer story about them.

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>>724400853
What >>724401329 said.

>>724391338
I hate kino concepts ruined by "it's like a guy who ends up..." jesus christ

>>724356770
Only gender bender stuff I want is a guy getting turned into a girl to get ruined by futas.

>>724356770

For anyone curious, there's a bit of a 'supply outpacing demand' issue within the TF interest at the moment. A lot of artists jacked rates too high for most to afford and a flood of AI 'artists' have further muddied the waters.

There's a lot of desperate attempts to make 'THE NEXT BIG THING', yet very little is sticking.

Deltarune? Already over
Uma? OH, TOO HARD TO DRAW

There's also some autists trying to push FtM hard out of irony. Most sites strike that stuff down for violating the policies about cocks.

>>724403186
>There's also some autists trying to push FtM hard out of irony
meds

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>>724356770
I got burned out on TG/TF games years ago unfortunately. It feels like 50% of them either do the trap quest thing where they have a decent idea but ruin it by constantly doing disgusting/annoying shit, or they go the succ forest route where its all one (usually slow burn) path you can't deviate from at all.

>>724403381

If you're into FtM, you're either gay or a girl who was groomed into chest scars.

>>724403186
>>724403543
FTM can totally work with the right set up.

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>>724358819
Not about cute boys, but has cute boys.

>>724384006
Thank you for being so intelligently retarded youve convinced me a sufficient response is not worth the effort. You have no idea about what the burden of proof is or means. Im just glad you lacked the self awareness, and more importantly had the confidence to be so positively wrong about something you have no idea about that I dont have to pretend to care about anything you think or say after.

Incredibly ironic, accusing me of not meeting the burden of proof when I was clear from the start that my post was food for thought rather than an argument. An attempt at an appeal to persons. Because if I appealed to argument it wouldnt matter, since retarded subhumans like you exist that say shit about "burden of proof" when you dont even understand what it is.

>>724403745
Kemopop is relatively new.

>>724403658
FtM on its own does appeal to a much smaller demographic, and by itself it definitely does nothing for me. Female bodies are more attractive to me, so FtM gender bender just seems like a downgrade. I will say though that I really appreciate FtM x MtF (so role reversal) scenarios. That is some good shit.

>>724365075
um

>>724404662
>has said nothing of value
>continues pure ad hominem
>responds to nuanced opinion with emotional outburst of negativity
Anon, you are naught but a poor jester masquerading as wise.
TSF/tg/gender bender has been a long standing /d/ fetish and has little in common with the modern political or medical landscape.

>>724403658
Rather do Female to Futa.

>>724403745
What game anon. Please?

>>724407384
Most mtf x ftm are body swap, which while it can be appealing doesn't fulfill the same niche as traditional gender bender. Not because it cant appeal to the same demographic, but because they are inherently different fetishes that, despite overlap, target different emotional and narrative themes.
Most body swap tends to be about discovering the other person, instead of self exploration. They both feature a change in perspective which leads to interesting character moments and growth, but from different angles.
Alternatively, pure porn tends to be about lust/romantic interest in another established person, instead of masturbatory, literally and figuratively, introspection.

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What a strange and insanely mentally ill thread

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>Grew up watching Ranma and thought the idea was neat
>Fast-forward to present day and the fetish is being ruined by people who don't understand it's fantasy
>More than half of the 'TSF' games are just sissification
Fucking grim.

>>724408053
>how anon learns he never left the most basic faces of the internet
TSF is not new, and the Xchange series is a historic /d/ and /v/ title.

>>724408157
All I see is schizos crying about "trannies" while doing mental gymnastics over how jerking off to penises is "based and redpilled"

>>724356770
>student transfer
I like the Zoey routes

>>724407956
You've really never seen SEQUEL?
It's a whole series. The femboys are just a small portion of it though.
https://gitgud.io/SEQUELGOD/sequel-bin

>>724408051
>Most mtf x ftm are body swap
Sadly, yes. Body swap is extremely boring for me. I want opposite-gender versions of both characters discovering a new side of themselves AND each other. If it's just the same two characters, "but they totally swapped bodies trust me bro" then what was even the point. There's no fun in that.

>>724391338
I vaguely recall starting it once, and pretty much immediately growing tired of the "guess what the developer wants you to do next to progress the game" moments. I'm not willing to jump through many hoops of that nature these days, especially for a shitty fetish game.

>>724408680
Pity the official route is dead and Helping Zoey also died.

I feel like some people overcompensate for having this fetish by being vehemently anti-tranny (to the point where we can't even have threads without trannies being brought up) and it just comes off as cringe.

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>>724408943
No, I have more reason to hate the delusional freaks than the average person, since they're actively causing the scene to get worse.

>>724408350
Except you don't, this thread is full of discussion tsf games and media, the vast majority of which features less penis than other h games.

>>724408680
>>724408884
Eman Looc's Possession Scroll actually got a standalone game and features uses the Zoey model as one of it's heroines if you want, her character is slightly different but close to the same.

>>724410739
Isn't that female to female swaps? That just doesn't do a thing for me.

>>724385370
>
That's just how yuritroons are.