Can it ever be fixed with mods?
mods can't fix a shit game. It didn't fix Skyrim even though there's a lot of people "playing" it
>>724417256How are mods going to fix the shitty plot?
>>724417256Real question is if modders even want to botherThey'll probably bang out a couple nude mod texture swaps and call it a day
>>724417368Skyrim is good once you mod the hell out of it to make it like morrowind
>you start off as a generic knight and fight rats in a boring ass d&d esque caveAh yes, this is the vampire experience i want
be honest, his story was somewhat interesting
I'm gonna make a vampire game.With blackjack.And hookers.
>>724417694Filtered
>>724417256No. The problem isn’t jank or bugs or one particular piece of cut content. The problem is that its design fundamentally isn’t an rpg.
>>724417256You fool.
>>724417694More vampirecore than VTMB
>>724417796I mean its pretty standard TCR fare (amnesiac tries to find out cause of bad thing, finds out bad thing is the reason he's amnesiac and may have something to do with bad thing in the first place) but I liked it, yeah.would have been nice to have him around for when Lou got hers, though.
tfw no anezka wife
>>724418387The beginning is atrocious
How would you beat a vampire using celerity? please don't say more celerity.
Werewolf is cool, I wish ecoterrorists were real
>>724417694Yes now you know why this game is ass and also why dark ages helped kill vtm until paradox bought itTalk all the shit you want but when CCP owned WW they did jack shit with it
>>724418893werewolf is G-A-Y
>>724418465The most used of used goods
>>724418893real life is just werewolf but without the werewolves and we still have all the evil corporations
>>724417796I cried
>>724417256There's nothing fundamentally broken with it. All you could fix would be minor points that might elevate it a bit, but won't make people that uterly dislike it change their opinion.>>724417694Hated that thing since release.Totally missed the point. The only interesting thing about it was the editor/multiplayer. And it's totally outdated these days. >>724418718Which edition?
>>724419038Yeah but in real life I cant turn into a wolf and kill people in the evil corporations
>>724419009what anezka does with other men is none of my business
>>724418893Gtfo dog fucker, this is a wyrm board
>>724418893>I wish ecoterrorists were realThey were for a while, but the FBI put more money into rooting them out than the commies in the 50s. Ecoterrorism is too easy to make normies sympathise with if you hit companies.
>>724419171real life SUCKS
vampires exist i've seen one
>>724419038>we still have all the evil corporationsAnd they manage to be even more evil than Pentex without being edgy-cool.
>>724417256The thing is though, take away the title and the game would be equally, if not more, well-liked than Vampyre. It's a perfectly serviceable semi-open world budget brawler. However, when you add the title and there are no choices/immersive sim elements/rpg mechanics, it becomes a shit sequel. That's the issue.Also, the story is fine, I daresay good even.
>>724418893>kill all the other were creatures to the point they are on the brink of extinction for an ego trip>try and exterminate humanity and get btfo by your own gods>bitch about it for the rest of time on an Indian reservationGayest monsters in wod by far
>>724419401>take away the title and the game would be equally, if not more, well-liked than Vampyre.Point taken, but that's an extremely low bar.
>>724418893vomit
>>724417256It's clearly unfinished and needed another year, at least. Sad. It's a janky mess. The setting and music is probably the only decent thing about it, everything else is abysmal.
>>724419269Crackheads don't count
How would you make werewolves cool
Vtmb2 is better than redemption. Yeah i fucking said it. Redemption plays like a shitty diablo clone
>>724419401And it would have probably sold a tenth of what it did. Paradox took a calculated risk that the audience it would grab with the sequel to the game everyone talks about when the talk about VTM would outweigh any negative comparison.It is genuinely not a bad game. A little messy at points if you're not playing slow-mo telekinesis/discipline chess with the fights, but not bad. That said Id recommend a pirate over a buy, paradox can go fuck themselves, they dont deserve your money, and I have ZERO interest in the planned DLCs starring scarred up piece of shit sherrif and pretentious nog sabbat.
>>724420045>>724420039WoD werewolves are already cool, it's just that thanks to furries they've ruined anthropomorphic animals forever
>>724420045Redemption wins in terms of atmosphere
>>724420272I’m not even sure that, it feels much more stereotypical fantasy garbage at times
>>724420272Lmfao
>>724418893>werewolf-opening-his-asshole-wide.png
What a non-commital shilling.
becketts animal form looks so gay it made me laugh when i first saw a fucking white furry run up to me
>>724417256The base is a festering pile of shit, so no. You can only polish a turd so much.
>>724418893Too bad ecoterrorists are either retards who can't get shit done or anprims (bigger retards) who can't get shit done
>>724417551>VtM mod with morrowind/oblivion/skyrimDamn, man that could be quite neat but the nature of modding means it's limited to aesthetics short of a total overhaul mod
>>724418046Braindead Fromtranny drone tier response.
>>724418718>More dakka>Potence>Temporis>Blood magic probably>The wrath of god>more dakka
so at what point is this shit going on sale and for how much? Probably would have bought it if it had launched at like 40 but that didnt happen
>>724419727The dichotomy between being a furry Hulk murdermachine and also a low IQ retard race of idiots responsible for everything is part of the appeal though>>724418893It's a cool setting but like a lot of anons talk about here it's held back by>Furry>Playing as quite literally Gaia's biggest jobbers>locked into ecoterrorismLimited appeal despite at times being better written than masquerade. Fuck W5 though, only redeeming part is the art is neat
>>724420039>>724420212They are already cool and I don't care if they're drawn and animated with one hand (like in the case of Earthblood) but if it's too blatant then it's furry bait
>>724417256This game is so fucking lame it doesn't even have the cool death animation with your body and skeleton disintegrating.
>>724420535I wouldn’t be shocked if someone could eventually make a total overhaul with skyrim
>>724420512Where do you think uncle Ted falls into that? Biggest problem I think is that unlike regular terrorism eco-terrorism isn't profitable for anyone so the feds and others are much more involved in stopping it
>>724417256They should release the pre alpha cancelled demo so modders could make an actual game from that
>>724419171You can do the latter.
>>724417256You would need to fix the secondary quests, the progression system, add skills, add an inventory, add weapons, and rewrite entirely the game.All of that on the notoriously difficult to mod (beyond model swaps) UE.So no. No one will care, no one will fix it, no one will take 2,000+ hours to rewrite the game entirely or take the massive amount of effort to write basic script injection, and you'll get like 20 models swaps on Nexus if you're lucky. And 20 models swaps are generous. More likely 3 sexy Safia or and a Phyre/2b replacement mod.
>>724417256mods can fix minor issues, the problems with vtmb2 seem deeper.
>>724420997There's pretty close attempts with skyblivion and skywind but I think the engine is just too scuffed unlike Source
Glad the redemption shill isn’t on, that game is ass. Somehow i’m starting to think bloodlines was a fucking fluke and even it was messy on release
>>724417256what's even the point? take all the shit out of it and you're left with bare UE5, might as well just make a new game
i think im going to use a flamethrower and kill all the vampires
>>724421252>messynigger it was literally unplayable without console, some map just wouldnt load, tower finale combat i think.
>>724418893>Tard Rage simulator
>>724418893>Werewolf is coolSome things it brings are cool, werewolfs themselves are not.
>>724421364Just molotov havens during the day like everyone else
>>724421552what if it has anti molotov tech
>>724421603Use more molotovs
>>724421658we have run out of bottles
>>724417256They'd have to rewrite literally every single sentence because the dialogue is Veilguard tier. I lost 5 years of my life pirating this shit.
>>724421364>He needs toolsGod will provide you with the only weapon you'll need (if your True Faith is high enough)
>>724417796Fabien was well written and likeable. It's just a shame that his sections gameplay-wise are dogshit. I'm doing my 2nd playthrough rn and everytime the story switches to him I want to kill myself.
>>724417796True. I had a blast with it.
>>724421820i'm no bach, sorry
>>724421683You're fucked then should of brought more. Good luck when night falls
>>724421364Stand back son, let the pros handle this one>Calls in a napalm strike on the neighbourhood before blaming it on terrorists to get more funding
>>724422194tfw 9/11 was actually to get rid of vampires
NoNothing can be FIXED with modsMods exist to enhance an experienceYou can only try to cover up cracks and voids when it comes to shitty gamesFixing something with mods would end up producign a whole new game
There is no dialogue system, no stats and no side real side quests. The game is fucked.
>>724421948That's ok, the Inquisition doesn't need you to have special powers but it's invitation only. Better hope someone like Bach notices you.
>>724417694It's called pacing, you play as a human and experience the entire history from your embrace to the modern nights going through changes in the character, much better than the trash that is VTMB2 where you play a boring blank slate that never amounts to anything, but is le power fantasy (but not really since you can die to thinbloods).
Why do shills here hate Redemption so much? Are they afraid of people realizing how much superior it is to the kusoge they just released?
I know nothing about the super lore and just know the game lore, since you can be the sheriff on this game who the fuck will hunt you down if you break the Masquerade? the Prince?
>>724423383>playing the first 2/3 of the game in the shitty WoD dark age setting before getting to the modern times that everyone likes WoD for is pacingYeah no
>>724417256If there was a mod to make you able to use any combo of powers (ex 2 mobility ones, 2 masteries, etc) & have a blood/mana system like VTMB1 instead of their dogshit feeding between powers system, I would enjoy it.
>>724423480literally nobody cares about Redemption besides christlarpers
>>724423560Dark Ages are the best setting
>>724423480it reminds them of the fact that they were bratty little kids whose parents couldn't afford a PC that ran Redemption at the time. The game was very slow on Pentium tier potatos of the day.
>>724423651Might as well play d&d with vampires
>>724423551Vampire hunters & the police get involved as well
>>724423651Said no one ever
>>724423480Redemption has a terribly slow start, focuses too much on medieval fantasy esque shit, and playing like a mediocre diablo clone with some party members doesn’t help. I won’t blame people for saying it’s better than vtmb2 but don’t try to pretend it’s some masterpiece either
>>724423551The Prince finds someone to kill you just like what happens to Benny in VTMB2
>>724423823what would the police do against an Elder? ask the old nigga to show his ID?
What kind of "mod" actively reworks the entire game, including the voice acting, character designs, gameplay, general design etcThe game just blows and the shill is getting fired.
>>724423560Dark Ages is a great setting for Vampire, but the other it's a different story
>>724421820God willing I need only a trusty Remington with incendiary ammo
>>724423993some people really overestimate how much fan patches helped vtmb and they think nobody liked it before them and it was the worst game ever
>>724423993Total conversion mods, though this game isn’t getting that
>>724423850I just did
>>724423921An Elder can take out a police squad or too easily but if it's the entire precinct at some point Grandpa is getting lit up by enough bullets to get hurt. Never mind so much attention will attract specialists or a blood hunt
>>724423551The prince can call a blood hunt on your ass
>>724423921In lore vampires and other supernaturals got found out by the Inquisition (not he new one) and got fucked up by people armed with torches and pitchforks. Imagine what an army batalion and a helicopter gunship could do.
>>724423480>shillsHere's that word again, soon to be emptited of all substance by abusive throwaround.And I didn't like Redemption because I found it had no redeeming feature. It didn't look good; it played like a poorly designed dungeon explorer with trivial maps that did not elecit exploration and tedious, repetitive combat; it was a poor adaptation of the tabletop.Remember that it was released more than 2 years after Fallout. We were hoping for so much more. As I said, the only interesting thing was the online multiplayer tabletop component, and it's totally outdated these days.
>>724424251Would a 5th gen elder really give a shit? Maybe i’m overestimating but wouldn’t a 5th gen be able to or is that just methuselehs and antediluvians
>>724417256I've been playing it off-and-on the past couple days and its honestly pretty okay.I feel like TCR was very clearly inspired by Dishonored in more ways than one, and I wish they had pivoted towards more immersive sim elements. It has the bones of a potentially good game but so many frustrating design choices hold it back. Like, when you telekinesis a gun to use it, why do you just unload the whole clip in one go instead of being able to fire off individual shots? Why can't we just slot whatever powers we want regardless of their "ability type?" Shit like that.
>>724424564Mehuselehs and antediluvians are the ones that have soft-reality warping stuff going on. 5th gen and higher are gigapowerful but you're not getting into "singlehandedly drives the story forward by being bullshit" situations like that until the borderline demigods that are 3rd and 4th gen. And even then, a sufficiently large collection of younger gen vampires can probably fuck them up same way the 3rd gen fucked the 2nd gen over
>>724417796Eh. It didnt even really answer anything. Why was gideon like that? What did he do to lou to get put in stone? Was he really sabbat and why?
Phyre might be the weakest Elder in VTM history so far, this nigga is jobbing to the librarian Malk
>>724425027their entire backstory is running awaybeing so comically inept for centuries is probably the only reason Phyre is still (un)alive
>>724418893>posts 5th edition booknow i know you're a proud gay man, anon
>>724423921The more attention you attract the more likely you're going to run into a bigger fish or a shark. Even elders get their shit pushed in regularly by humans, werewolves, mages etc.
>>724425402>Black Pentex employee comes up and asks you to help load some Fomorri 40s onto the truck.
>>724421406I thought it was that late game mission where you have to kill Sebastian Bach
>>724425027They're somewhat young for an Elder aren't they? We don't know what generation they are and they're only from the 1600s which is how old Jack was and he wasn't an Elder.
>>724425801Jack /is/ an elder. He's just very good at making you forget.
>>724425972Huh. So you're right. I always thought Elders were supposed to be older than just 300 years.
>>724425664nah, i completely missed bach on my release run and definitely had to load a map.now that i think it might have been the tutorial actually, i dont think using the exit door from the warehouse did anything.suppose i could just ask ai, but thats no fun.
This has to be one of the worst sequels ever right?
Surprisingly good WoD VN
>>724427219Nah I can think of worse ones
I’m gonna try downloading the combat mod, and limit my powers solely to the clan i pick. Maybe that will make it more interesting
>>724417796I respect that they didn't went for the generic "Malkavian detective that is trying to stop a serial killer, but actually he is the serial killer".Fabian solving the case multiple times over the years is interesting...but it also implies that it took him a century to come up with "What if...I don't just blindly go, alone, to my dangerous and powerful suspects, to make my accusation?"
>>724428069>Malkavian detective that is trying to stop a serial killer, but actually he is the serial killer"Wasn't he doing all the killing in the 2020s though?
>>724427219nah, this still got me to play it for at least a couple of hours. veilguard meanwhile is just vomit inducing in every single aspect.
>>724427262How are these and the sequel? I wanted to try them but I saw that>you play as the Polish>short
>>724428401First one is very good, haven't played the second but it seems like people enjoyed it less
>>724426060Jack is pretty low gen and has also been around since the 1600s
>>724428445I'll check it out then, I kinda enjoyed Hungry Names a lot and I suppose I've been in the recent mood to see more angry wolves fail Gaia
>>724428069>"What if...I don't just blindly go, alone, to my dangerous and powerful suspects, to make my accusation?"yeah, let's bring a noisy voice recorder instead! I couldn't believe that scene, felt like a comedy, can you imagine it, the recorder buzzing in the background and he all like "so you did all these crimes right, can you speak louder so the micropho-eerr so I can hear you better".
>>724423921A vampire is almost useless in daylight...humans just need to get lucky once, and its over.Not to mention, the moment an opportunity occurs, all your rivals will use the opportunity to aid said humans (the first inquisition got dangerous because many elders tried to use them to get rid of their enemies...and shit got out of control).There's a reason kindred care so much about the masquerade, and why Elders are so fucking paranoid.
>>7244272191. It's not actually a sequel. It's just marketed as such.2. Nah, it's mediocre in parts but it's not a bad game.3. I fucking hate you Discord raid faggots. What is even the motivation of your constant, desperate faked negativity? (you)s? Here. Enjoy.
>>724428583My head cannon is that there's something in the blood of the citizens of Seattle that makes all Kindred mentally challenged.Its the only way to explain everything that happens in game, the Nomad just woke up in the clown capital of WoD
>>724418893WtA is such an interesting game: it seriously needs their own "Bloodlines", a popular RPG that brings people into the splat, and it could become huge.
>>724429048Wasn't VtM already more popular even before Bloodlines? I think perhaps Mage could be gigapopular if it ever got adapted to video game formats, but idk for Werewolf
>>724429048It's not for lack of trying. There was a werewolf game in dev meant to be a sequel to bloodlines that got canceled. Then earthblood which was shit and probably rewritten at the last minute because a suit got cold feet about releasing a game about ecoterrorists
>>724429256Vtm has always been the most popular but prior to CCP killing WoD, vtm, wta, and mta were the most popular games
>>724428176With Veilguard you have to take into account that it followed 2 AND Inquisition So it only underperformed our expectations slightly>>724429048It just occurred to me that Earthblood is just VTMB2 but better, with the focus on both stealth and combat. And made by devs who at least don't despise gameplay
>>724429048They just need a competent AAA dev to make a Bloodlines-esq RPG for the entire WoD series.Werewolf, vampire, hunter, etc as starting class.
>>724418893Too bad the game sucked. Had high hopes for the game, but it was garbage.
whats the general consensus on the story? i've made peace with it not being a proper sequel but as long as the main story is good i'll be pleased
>>724429048at this point i should make my own werewolf game sigh
>>724429398inquisition was shit, but i still gave it like 8h total, honestly trying to get into it.2 i played through twice on launch - it wasnt much of an rpg by the standards of back then, but i liked the combat and on my second run i was hoping to see what different choices would achieve (ha fucking ha).veilguard on the other hand i saw the trailers of and not one of them made it look playable.i had maybe a 5 min look at a cuckcarnage stream or some other shill, and once i saw it on rutracker and igg it never once crossed my mind to bother downloading.
>>724417256Apparently there's a mod to skip the Fabien parts>>724429632Story was alright I guess the mystery kinda carried it but there are too many plotholes for my liking
I had Damsel apologize for insulting me in my first conversation with her, never had that before, also when I told her I make my own fate she came.
>>724428134Unless I missed it, there's no /definitive/ proof of that. It /is/ hinted at, and the most likely explanation, though. Personally like it better if it remains ambiguous,but I can understand people being bothered by a mystery that doesn't give a solution.>>724429398>It just occurred to me that Earthblood is just VTMB2 but betterSeriously? I can't fathom how you'd get to such a conclusion. Earthblood is the epitome of Cyanide mediocrity, with specs of game design thrown around because they're the norm, with no idea of just how/why they're supposed to work.For all it's faillings, Bloodlines 2 works at times. Can't say as much of Earthblood.
>>724429632The story is fine, good even, it feels very VtM, I could see it being a story book, it hits all the >vidya version of a TT game ,so it has to introduce all the TT USPswhile still feeling like an actuall story. I will say that with regard to how the detective B plot folds into the elder politics A plot:Feels weakly connected, and you can tell the budget/dev time was drying up. There's even a brief flashback convo that sort of randomly plays to 'tie' the plots together (because they knew their connection didn't really work), you can tell was added at the last second and feels poochie tier.
>>724430114need damsel gf
>>724417256Fix what? There's no gameplay to fix.
>>724430463Hardy har har
>>724420942For some reason dead vampires don't disintegrate in this game, but the mindless Sabbat vampires do. Weird as fuck and only one for many lore inconsistancies.
>>724430547Is it a change from V5 where higher humanity Vamps don't have bodies that turn to ash?
>>724430547Bloodlines took a lot of liberties with its depiction of vampires dying.The tabletop was always more fuzzy with different books presenting things differently according to their needs/uses.Supposedly, the older the vampire the faster the accelerated decay/turning to ashes, but that sometimes was altered.
>>724431139>Bloodlines took a lot of liberties with its depiction of vampires dying.i think they just liked how it looked in blade
>>724431298Blade is pretty sick ngl
>>724431298I should rewatch the blade trilogy.
>>724431463ye
>>724431502blade 3 was kinda shit tho
How powerful can a ghoul get?
>>724421820>You should praise the lord NOW!
>>724431602I don't think I ever watched it.Maybe that's what I'll do for Halloween.
>>724431298Kino, the blood rave bullshit too was pretty phenomenal, should be used more often
>>724431627Over time? Extremely. Some ghouls if they've been around longer than even some vampires will get their aura to emanate that of a Methuselah.
>>724431627Strong enough to kill a fledgling or neonate
>>724417256>~12 hour game>~6 hours as Phyre>~6 hours as Fabien>DLC with ~3 hours as Benny>DLC with ~3 hours as Ysabella>Playing as your protagonist unironically has less content than playing as other charactersWhat did they mean by this?
>>724430654>higher humanity vampsI'm fairly certain the only high humanity vamp in the entire game was Fabien, and even then, guy is unhinged
>check DLC>you play as Ysabellahuh, is this the first time we play as a Sabbat? that one mod for VTMB doesn't count
>>724422626Can I get Qrd on these guys? Vtmb wiki doesn't really have anything.
>>7244247322nd and 3rd were the same power wise, the generational degradation is the result of 3rds killing 2nds.
>>724431903https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Inquisition
>>724431773>>724431781Neat. These guys don’t get die from sunlight too right?
>>724431841Redemption is sorta is a Sabbat game
>>724431841The DLCs are going to be worse than Fabien segments aren't they?
>>724429398>>724430158I'd say both Earthblood and VTMB2 are on the same tier, Earthblood's plot is a bit less retarded and the gameplay is better if a bit braindead, but it has 0 understand of the lore beyond basic shit. VTMB2 lore might be based on v5 but it doesn't misinterpret it, and it's somewhat passable still
>>724432001Considering Benny and Ysabella can fight hopefully not
>>724431841>>724432001The concepts for the DLC are fundamentally retarded. You already barely play as Phyre because of the Fabien shit. Instead of expanding Phyre's content they're splitting it to other characters even more. These devs are so fucking stupid.
>>724432086Who fucking cares if they can fight? They're both irrelevant. Dusted. It should've been more content for Phyre.
>>724431627Again, the tabletop evolved and took a lot of liberties with its own rules anyway. Basic V1 had gouls that were limited to Potence 1 - but then almost imediately Prias was introduced in Chicago by Night as millenia old ghoul with an ancilla spread of stats/disciplines.Then the power creep introduced Revenant families, with born gouls that started with three dots in disciplines (still very much limited by lack of vitae - something too many players in power trip mode forgot to account for) and all bets were off I'd say.
>>724432001I expect Isabella and Benny especially to have actual gameplay instead of walking sim RP so hopefully yeah
why does Safia keep calling me love? is it because I'm a toreador?
>>724428757The prince being dominated before his eyes and his reaction is "guess i'll just comply then :^("The nomad is the biggest clown of them all
>>724431903They're the Society of Leopold https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Society_of_LeopoldAs of V5 they're a part of the second Inquisition (link to that in >>724431971), don't know if their lore changed in V5 tho
>>724432432No, she’s very bashful
>>724432432She's (poorly) trying to manipulate you
>>724431994Right, they aren't kindred.
>>724432347Benny will probably just be a combat guantlet
>>724432146>>724432235I'm not really sure of a Phyre dlc, from what the game gave us all he did was running away aka a bitch
>>724432256>still very much limited by lack of vitae - something too many players in power trip mode forgot to account forOh lol that’s fucking funny
Against all odds I liked the main story and even the gameplay, but it mostly just made me appreciate Bloodlines and Redemption[.spoiler] more.
>>724432694So instead of fixing that the solution is just playing as other fucking retards and reducing Phyre's content in comparison even further? No. That's a total copout.
>>724432784im so confused how you managed to fuck up but also not fuck up your spoiler tags lol
>>724417368Skyrim is good even without mods
>>724432682>Benny just a combat gauntletOn the one hand, he's kind of a cool nigger and I think he would deserve more, on the other hand though I doubt we'd get good writing
>>724432992Skyrim is fine without mods, but it's not really good
>>724417694Holy mother of filtered.
>>724433154Christof is so badass, him and his love made it into tabletop canon.
>>724432901The opening tag always works and if you mess up the closing tag the entire rest of the post gets spoilered, newfriendGo ahead and make a post without a closing spoiler tag
Is there a single character in VTMB2 with half the charisma of Fat Larry?
>>724433294i get that. wait its cuz you type out spoiler tags, i just do ctrl s now. or if im on my phone i don’t bother
I just did the flashback scene where Fabien remembers that Gideon was the Gardener. How much fucking longer do I have to play this piece of shit game, I want it to be over.
>>724433514You could stop playing and uninstall it.
>>724433154mind you he describes a 1999 world. That was still a pretty decent times compared to the clown world we live in. It was a world Christof wanted to save from the Gehenna. Fast forward to 2025 and we have a gay Nosferatu and a cartoonish Tremere simpette.
onda is a really shitty and obnoxious characterwhy do millennials write all black people like this lasombra deserved better representation
>>724433648I just want to finish so tell me how much more of the game is left or if you don't know then SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU INSUFFERABLE FUCKING FAGGOT
>>724433514the game's length would've been a decent perk but 90% of it is moving from A to B and doing bullshit collectibles. It feels like a really bad Arkham parody.
>>724433712I think you're 50% in. Maybe 60%. But there's still a lot of things to do.
>>724433726Am I at least close to the end? I really don't know how they paced it this fucking terribly
>>724433750>roughly halfwayI'm gonna kill myself
>>724433835Walk out into the sunrise.
>>724433692They wanted to avoid stereotypes for the Vampires(except Tolly, who's just a gay stereotype), for most of the characters in Bloodlines 2, it's why you get content Ventrue and calm Brujah in this game instead of what was shown in the original Bloodlines
>>724433864If there was an option to do that and get a "bad" ending I'd actually do it
>>724433875that's too bad. I genuinely felt sorry for picrel in the VTMR. The only thing I feel talking to VTMB2 characters is annoyance.
i need to decide between this and Outer Worlds 2
Wonder how the game is doing on console
>>724434110Don’t play either.
>>724433835He's lying for fun. On a youtube playthrough, it's at 10.5 hours out of 14h45min. For me it was probably at 20h out of 27>>724434110My condolences
>>724433875>invincible black girlboss that makes you her bitch>avoid stereotypes What the fuck are you talking about
>>724434147All things considered it's not doing that badly on PC.Nearly 4000 reviews on Steam.It has been in development for so long that it'll probably never make its budget back but I was expecting an absolute failure.
>>724434147I would be surprised if this made any money, considering how long it was in development for.
>>724434110Outer worlds 2, that’s actually an rpg and i’ve heard it’s way better than 1 and feels like a borderline im sim
>>724433692/v/ is a Onda board, get out racist
Just finished it, I think it's pretty good. It was never going to live up to the ultra-hype to satisfy the cult fans of the first game, which I do think was overall better. But I really expected this game to be a shitshow, and it wasn't, so that alone was a pleasant surprise. The gameplay was pretty solid without overstaying its welcome. I was occasionally annoyed by all these faggot vampires thinking they could boss around an Elder, but I guess the mark stuff explains that (barely). Like bitch, you're all thin bloods in my eyes, shut the fuck up
>>724434286TCR doesn't consider that a stereotype
>>724434247hopefully that means next session I'll be done. What an abysmal game. I sort of had fun in the caves with all the hunters, especially the last bit after killing the Gardener because I just snuck around stealth killing and pulling them off ledges. About the only time I've actually enjoyed a combat encounter
>>724434110Unironically play Indiana Jones instead if you haven't. It's way better than both.
>>724434319I wonder what the dev costs were but i can’t imagine anything above $30-40m.
>>724434301This is a Final Fantasy 15 tier financial flop where the game will fail to turn a profit until like 5-10 years from release I bet. I assume the actual development costs of TCR will get paid off quickly but other than that not much more
Is this a borderlands 3 case where the gameplay is fun but the story is aids so you have to play muted
>>724434482Other way around, gameplay is mostly bad outside of some kinda fun combat but the story isn’t half bad, it’s not mindblowing or anything but it’s fun
>>724433135It's good when you collaborate with the game to have fun
>>724434482The gameplay sucks cock and the story is garbage, so no
speaking of Onda, I thought dead niggas can't get aroused? I know Phyre is an elder so he might have exuded some weird pheromones or some shit but I don't think any vamps can do it, not without some blood magic
>>724434482>gameplay is funNo>story is aidsYes
>>724434482No, not really.The story isn't that bad but the characters (especially the two leads) are annoying as fuck.And the gameplay is mediocre bordering on bad.
>>724434467Ff15 was like $200m+ budget, this was nowhere near that expensive
>>724434301This tells me that Paradox will continue making WoD stuff but will probably want less headaches and will license it out to experienced devs which they already mentioned
>>724434665It wasn't just 200 million, it was>150 million for the new game engine>50ish million for nomura's development in the old engine>old engine scrapped>at least 200 million budget for the full game>possibly more side budget + for dlcsWe know that HSL was overbudget for a while so probably I think this game's total budget is between 200-300 million, at least 60-70% of that being HSL though
>>724434635>The story isn't that bad but the characters (especially the two leads) are annoying as fuck.Really? When the gay ass nosferatu exists you will have any care for the leads? He's the only character I genuinely hate >And the gameplay is mediocre bordering on bad.This is true. Although I have to admit, some powers are really cool. I like especially the one lasombra power where you appear behind someone
Give us a good Werewolf game Paradox. The COYA games and VNs are good but give us a high budget rpg
>>724434869This is the hope but as long as they hold on to the IP they'll push mediocre books with good art, mind you and likely pull a wizards and demand every game you make MUST use the latest version
>>724434467>>724434665It's hard to say.Hardsuit Labs is in Seattle.If you had 100 employees (probably a low estimate desu) there working for 5 years (2017-2021) at $60k a head you're already talking $30 million for dev costs and that's without licensing, rent, any marketing they did, outsourcing, etc.Then add on TCR version which is another 4 years at 55 employees at probably $60k per head too.I'm guessing $50 million for dev + marketing cost (which was basically 0 if I'm being real with you) on the low end and $100 million on the high end.
>>724434950Based on that, paradox interviews, and how the game is doing despite relatively negative press, it sounds like they were truthful about yeah we’re definitely interested in WoD but we want studios that know what they’re doing to do it. HSL failure is why the cost went up, chinese room was pretty cheap i hear
>>724435017The WoD 5 books are just fine. It's fair to dislike the metaplot changes but from s gameplay perspective 5th ed is much better.
>>724434989>rpgLol, lmao even>Werewolf RPG under Troika scrapped when Troika went under>Other Werewolf project scrapped at a similar time>Earthblood dev hell and then Earthblood changed from ARPG into Action game>Werewolf dead game IP until CYOA and VNCould be worse, Mage fans haven't gotten dick
Lou, my beloved. she hates foreigners and weaklings. she looks a lot better in game but I didn't take any screenshots>>724434482Gameplay is a lot better than the original, but that's not saying a whole lot loland the story was alright. interesting at parts, but I saw it coming pretty early. Nothing's ever gonna be as memeable as the original box, which they gave a nod to in this game
>>724435082I’ve heard rumors of $60-65m. Honestly that’s not terribly hard to recoup, only need about a million and a half sold, in today’s environment that’s nothing.
>>724435082Seattle is California expensive I doubt the devs were making 60k.
Gimme a proper hunter game.
>>724435145Even fucking wraith got a game lol, and a good one too
I fucking hated fighting those Unbirthed things. More than one of them is just a bastard unless you're a Brujah or something and all your powers are combat oriented>>724434967>some powers are really cool. I like especially the one lasombra power where you appear behind someoneI used that one the most by far. So cool and versatile, strong too.
>>724435240The Hunter games on the ps2 were kino.
>>724435150>Lou, my beloved. she hates foreigners and weaklings.She also hates (You) and you can't fuck her despite of course being able to fuck an 80 year old woman, a negress dominatrix and a titless they/them. It's disgusting. It's also intentionally done this way to "clap back" against straight men. I hate these fucking golems.
>>724434967I hate him and I honestly hate Fabien. He never shuts the fuck up and nothing he says is interesting. If he actually made insightful comments occasionally I wouldn't mind as much, but instead it's just>"Hey, uh, you think finding the fingers would hellp?"No shit you worthless disembodied schizo clown of a detective, what the fuck do you think I'm doing? Kill yourself.
>>724435145Maybe if M5 ever comes out Mage will get a game. Then again even Wraith got a game in like 2021. It's expect a hunter game before a mage game seeing as it appears V, H, and W are the three core WoD systems in 5.
>>724435116Listen man you're totally welcome to your opinion but I just can't agree that the WoD5 books are good, they lost a lot of the cool edge and flavor that made older games appealing while also changing mechanics in a way that's much worse in many ways, blood pool works as a better system than blood potency and hunger for instance, I don't mind the Werewolf gameplay changes but I do dislike all the background lore getting the shaft to be less edgy, and Hunter is just shittier vigil for the most part. This is before we talk about the metaplots. I can see why someone might enjoy the 5th edition books, but personally they're a downgrade and I hope Mage 5 never comes out
>>724435286I'm an evil nazi and I get what you mean, but the only actually annoying character was that faggot nosferatu who is just over the top homo all the time, even talks with the gay accent. It would've been better if he looked actually fucked up like the old nosferatu, instead of just looking like an old fat hunchback man
>>724435181Balanced out by jeet outsourcing
>>724435082>>724435092Damn, I suppose the game really didn't need to sell that well to succeed anyway. I do hope it succeeds enough that Paradox keeps interest or sells it to someone more competent, but I hope they don't directly involve themselves in a project again
>>724435150So, the real complaints about this game is that the story is too linear, the dialogue choices and the clan you chose don't affect the story and the gameplay is better than the first, but not as good for a modern game?
>>724435268I can't imagine even finishing the game if I had started as anything but a Brujah. I almost went with Toreador.
>>724435309Werewolf didn't really change much i don't get why people are so upset. They changed some names so that they aren't the names of native American tribes and unlike 1992 when people were worried about the ozone layer and acid rain now it focuses on climate change which makes complete sense
I'm here for my government assigned vamp gf
>>724435243Yeah, that's pretty hilarious. Though I think Wraith fans lucked out with the VR horror craze inspiring a studio>>724435294Funny to think that Hunter was only rushed out before werewolf because a Vtuber was playing Vigil
>>724435434Yeah, far as I can tell the story is completely linear, but some choices you make do have effects later, and of course change the ending. I'm a bit pissed about the ending I got, it didn't line up with anything I did except for one single choice. And the gameplay isn't bad, sometimes it's really good, but other times it can be frustrating. It got a lot better for me when I learned you can parry, don't think that was in any of the tutorials, I just noticed it in the settings and it's a game changer.
>>724435383He's also completely invincible with impenetrable plot armor, and somehow manages to kill you solo if you cross him, despite Phyre supposedly being an epically powerful elder. TCR is so pathetic.
>>724435240lol give me 5 yrs
>>724435428Nah it doesn’t need be like veilguard which was a huge fucking flop. This combined with dlc that will probably do ok due to being story based will probably recoup most of it. Paradox themselves said they’ll license it out if someone wants to try bloodlines 3 or some other rpg stuff. Paradox ceo said they aren’t good at rpgs and they spun off white wolf as a publisher so they can make better WoD stuff.
>>724435657I won't be alive then.
>>724435701:(
>>724435530>No kinfolk>Wolves are less retarded but still retarded enough to be responsible for everything>No Metis I actually like this change though >Setting shift from oncoming apocalypse to post-apocalypse>Going from Holy Ecowarrior fluff to depressed ecoterrorism about preserving order and community despite removal of kinfolk and that they hate humansIt's more like W5 ruined a lot of the things that made the setting more unique and cool and rebranded it as Furry Masquerade with the veil and the depression about being a monster that can't relate to humans and "it's so over" mentality. Personally, I just think it's worse than older editions
what do blood dolls get in exchange for getting their blood sucked? do they some free gibs from the vamps?
>>724435530Very few people who criticize 5 have even played 5.
>>724435934Very few people who defend 5 have even played 5.
>>724435691Good enough I suppose but it's not like I trust modern white wolf anyway
>>724435928Apparently it can feel really good and some have it as a kink
>>724435914No kinfolk is the only change I didn't like
>>724435428They said they had no interest in continuing the franchise.I'm guessing they'll just license it out to the highest bidder. (which will be shit tier companies like Aspyr - enjoy your remake :))
>>724435286>a titless they/themPatience is pretty obviously female, but yeah no tits at all, zero
>>724435286you can fuck the Toreador? I ain't getting all the damn crosses bitch
>>724436079Delicious flat chest
>>724420942It does have contextual death quotes though, depending on who you were fighting when you died, which is cool. They'll usually make fun of you, but sometimes they're like "holy fuck how am I still alive"
>>724436056I think the lack of Kinfolk made the tribal cultural much less interesting overall, werewolves also being born semi-randomly is a bit of a mistake
I want to bend Patience the fuck over and erupt inside her rotting undead womb
>>724436064Still holding out for Larian to pump out a WoD game sometime in the 2030s since clearly they only push out a game or two a decade now
>read steam discussions>people complaining it’s wokeNigger it’s 2024 seattle, the hell do you expect?
>>724436405Also WoD has always been woke
>>724434286I kinda like the character, for all very little there is to see of her. She's an halfway competent over-achiever narcissist with an inflated sense of pride and worth. Basically perfect Lasombra material.She's dumb enough to keep incriminating proof laying around in her haven. She can be be dominated (the discipline) by Fabien.Overall, I thik it's just a case of you wanting to see what you hate in her.>>724433875>except Tolly, who's just a gay stereotypeJury's still out on Tolly for me. He *is* a walking stereotype, but it also looks to me like he plays it off to irks people in a way that makes them dismissive of him and his faults.The fact that there's an ending where he becomes prince does show that he's a conniving little shit. It's implied he knows a lot more than he let on (Katsumi being a Campbell plant, Fabien potentially being the copycat killer...).
>>724423993>voice actingIt's fine. Some of it is better than others, but none of it is bad, and some of it's pretty good.>character designsagain fine and usually good, except for that faggot Tolly>gameplaysolid AA quality combat, like Robocop. And the movement system was fun. Interesting how you had to go to the rooftops to travel the city at top speed with all your abilities, to avoid breaking the Masquerade. The gameplay isn't incredible besides a few really cool moments here and there, but again, it's never bad. except when you have to fight multiple invisible kung-fu minibosses fuck those guys, I just drop everything on them or use potions
>>724419171You can take half that action though
>>724436204yeah you can "romance" Patience but fucking the old lady at the book store is more entertaining. also you don't really have to hunt for the crosses, they're all in the main locations on the map that you'll be visiting regularly anyway, just sometimes off to the side or in a back room or something.
>>724436575Tolly is Seattle's spymaster. I dont know if the game ever actually says it but that's a nosferatu's role in a Prince's court. Of course he knows a lot more then he lets on
>>724421075>>724436627Wearing a fur suit wouldn't be the same.
>>724436405>>724436523Woke just doesn't mean anything anymore, it's like calling someone a nigger or saying something is Reddit. I don't think something is woke because it has a gay character in it. I think what makes something woke is when everything else takes a backseat to the inclusion of woke stereotypes, often to the exclusion of any character that is "normal".>flamboyantly gay Nosferatu that constantly makes flirty fag comments>no-nonsense girlboss nigger that is into BDSM>flat-chested pretentious dyke haircut bitch that uses they/them pronouns>EVERYONE is bisexualThis shit is woke.
>>724436405I expected it to be a lot more woke. there's some minor shit in there that really shouldn't be, but nothing extreme, and some of it fits the setting kinda like 2077
I just ignored Tolly's gay shit but the fact that he can roam around in the night in the public as a Nosferatu is pissing me off, sure there are people who look like him but come the fuck on man, not one insulted him out in the open???
>>724436575>The fact that there's an ending where he becomes prince does show that he's a conniving little shit. It's implied he knows a lot more than he let on (Katsumi being a Campbell plant, Fabien potentially being the copycat killer...).No you fucking idiot, it shows that he's an inspirationally disadvantaged Gary Stu faggot that gets by on Plot Armor and being heckin wholesome to a particular kind of freak that writes faggot characters like him. What the fuck are you on about.
>>724435657The clock is ticking and you better fucking deliver.
>>724436754I'd respect furries more if they actually shot people in terrorist attacks ngl
>>724436754You can wear this right now.
How does this compare to both bloodlines games?
>>724436783>everything else takes a backseat to the inclusion of woke stereotypesExactly, this is the problem. A lot of games have some gay or black or certain stereotypes of characters and no one called it woke before or went out of their way generally. I feel like this has changed recently because of the oversaturation of game releases with said excess stereotypes
>>724436919S'alrightWorth a playthrough
>>724436836Eh, I can believe it cause he doesn't even really look paranormal. He just looks like a burn victim. He doesn't even have pointy ears. I wish they redesigned him a bit and made him actually look as something else than a burn victim
>>724436919Trash. If you must have more vampires but for some reason refuse to play the Vtm COYA games or VNs then I guess it will suffice
>>724436919Some anons said it's a better masquerade sequel than 2
In some alternate universe, Arkane Studios took over after Hardsuit's execution & made a great immersive sim VTM game. I wish we were there
>>724436919The first one is clearly superior, but it's miles better than this shit. The combat is nothing spectacular but it's fun enough, and the roleplay elements are actually there despite it being a character action game. I'd say it does a better job of making you feel like a vampire than VTMB2 does, and it's more interesting because you're a regular jackoff Victorian era doctor that is forced to adapt to suddenly being a superpowered night demon.
>>724436919has some interesting mechanics and a character interaction system but it's pretty janky.The plot is uninteresting and boring rather than bad
>>724436836Nosferatu are able to obfuscate their appearance.
>>724437031>Arkane being able to do anything after being bethesda jailed and hemorrhaging all of it's talentWe can only hope there's an alternate universe like that
>going around spooking or bullying the homeless for certain blood typeskino. But I did let one of them get away. I was chasing her through the park after scaring and insulting her, trying to herd her into a secluded area and she started crying and yelled "Why won't anyone help me!?" while even the cops just watched this well dressed guy chase her through town. whoever voiced that line put their heart into it, I felt bad for her and let her escape.
>>724437031I'm sure it would be as good as their last vampire game
>>724437012V5 Nos are no longer gay bdsm elves, they're just tragically ugly (forma de burn victim)
>>724437153It’s telling that as mediocre as vtmb2 can be at times, it still takes a fat shit on this piece of junk
>>724436079she's the only character in the game that doesn't look like a fugly tranny
>>724437116>hunting the choleric blood type>try to lure in the poor guy to in a secluded area>accidentally lured them in a corner with a cop>cop shoots themfuck
So the general vibe I've been getting from these threads the past few days is: Wait until it's on sale.That about right? Worth playing but also not really Good?
>>724437352The irony is i think she is one
>>724437352Did you forget Lou? And lots of the NPCs are pretty hot
>>724437364Anon, this game is piss drizzling out the ass of a dead elephant's rotting carcass.
>>724437364If you really have nothing else to play worth a single playthrough
>>724437364Yeah, story is good, gameplay is eh
>>724437381Lou is just tall and has a top tier rack. Patience is cute though.
>>724437364I'd say it's good but not great. Some really cool aspects to the game, but it doesn't quite capture that same vibe and atmosphere as the original, even though it's technically better in several ways.
>>724437179Unironically that's really gay. Going from a monster to "lmao, you are just a truecel" is really fucking boring. V5 sucks ass
>>724437031>>724437153The main Arkane team is making a Blade game which should turn out good.
>>724437381Lou is v*ntrue yuck
>>724437498>Lou is just tall and has a top tier racknah man, her whole face and voice is 110% pure sex. and she's a racist
>>724437540doubt it
>>724437304For all of it's faults VTMB2 is at least a single player game being made by a single player focused dev studioRedfall was for some reason>A fucking looter shooter by a stealth-action video game company>Online coop>Small-town Americana by a Studio that has spent 2 decades aping lord of the rings, Viktor Antonov, and bioshock (albeit very well)>after all of their lead developers and founders resignedRedfall was made to fail but why Bethesda would ever ask Arkane to make such clear slop is a question that I don't think can be answered
>>724437364Yeah pirate or sale. It can be fun but just as annoying
>>724437364No. Watch a playthrough if you must >>724437361Always bite them right there on the street immediately. There are no consequences, just run up a roof afterwards. The Masquerade is a spook>>724437503This man is a shill. Do not let him trick you into buying this shit
The fact that there's absolutely zero combat progression shows this was made as a walking simulator first and foremost. All you can do is learn more abilities, nothing increases your health or melee damage. Pretty disappointing for a supposed "elder".
>>724437532Yup, also the big thinblood focus too which is why your so called "elder" is struggling against essentially just ghouls but gay>>724437540Doubt it, Arkane's main team lost like 85% of their actual talent following the launch of Prey and probably a further amount after Deathloop. There's a reason we've had Blade rumors for like 5+ years, it's in dev hell
I wonder how much the masquerade even means anymore since people can just claim ai and fake news. Plus it’s seattle, could easily be a crazed junkie preying on the homeless. That’s how i rationalize the crappy masquerade system
>>724437587I don't think the main Arkane team has made a bad game.Even Deathloop is pretty fun. It just has some deep rooted design flaws.
>>724437636You didn't even play the game, just watched someone else play it, and then you call other people shills while pretending your opinion means shit. you're the scum of /v/>just bite them on the street there are no consequences the masquerade is a spookcommunist retard. that's objectively incorrect
>>724437724how can you explain Ysabella's massive blood orgy on her club? AI or fake news wouldn't work because the police would see the crime scene
>>724437730Deathloop’s biggest issue was having only one way to solve the final mission basically breaking the loop. Otherwise it’s a pretty sound im sim in most aspects and i liked the blaxploitation aspect
>>724437730I don't play games with niggers in them
>>724437719>There's a reason we've had Blade rumors for like 5+ years, it's in dev hellIt was officially announced last year. It'll probably come out next year. 5-6 years dev time is normal now.
>>724437724It's an interesting idea that I wish they did more with. Everyone having phones and cameras is mentioned as a problem, but I think the game plays it off a lot because yeah, you're mostly just dealing with the homeless in Seattle in the middle of the night, nobody's going to believe or care if they see some guy flying over the street
>>724436919Classic Dontnod where the concept is great but the execution lacking. The narrative-tied experience system is so interesting (in hard mode, which looks like the way the game is meant to be played, you only gain XP by draining civilian's blood to death... and you play a doctor made vampire who's trying to save people during an epidemic... the more healthy you make them, the more XP they're worth; moral choices and all that), but it being tied to such a shitty combat core and mediocre at best writing makes it all basically a terrible experience in my opinion.I'd say it's worth a pirate to see if it can tickle your fancy, but do not expect great things out of it.>>724436843Again, just a case of you wanting to see what you want to hate in there.Fucking hate-addicts.I mean, as I said, jury's still out on the character, but you're just throwing around word-sauce empty husks at this point.
>>724437798This + multiplayer invasions being broken are my biggest issues with the game.They should've taken some design notes from Hitman WoA and let you kill the guys in any order.
>>724437730Deathloop's deep rooted design flaws come from all the decision making people at Arkane getting replaced, and ngl they've been losing their touch as well. As pretty as the art direction is in 2 both it and the DLC are worse games overall than Dishonored 1. It's been a steady decline that Arkane was too exceptional to notice until Deathloop and then Redfall
>>724437796the media is owned by (((vampires))) and they make up a cover story and/or drop some domination on influential people here and there, and disappear anyone who causes too many problems
>>724437796Gas leak or some shit, too much drugs that spiraled into a frenzy. Who knows. I actually in this day and age the masquerade would be easier to violate now due to information being too prevalent
I only watched segments of the game, but do you actually ever feel like an Elder vampire that has a good few centuries on everyone around you? From what I saw it was very neutered gameplay, and extremely deferential and simpering dialogue where your powers and status are rarely if ever asserted.
>>724417256You can't mod this into an actual RPG.
Bad bloodlines game, average action gameGood>visuals are pretty >they went with snowy streets because they couldn't do proper streets but quite comfy atmosphere outside still>main story was somewhat engaging>some ablities are kinda neatBad>fallout 4 discussion wheel so not much variety so no roleplay>your starting clan doesn't affect anything, only a few remarks here and there>most vampires dont feel like vampires, they're humans in 2025 but with fangs>fabian was likeable but suffers from the same thing that Tolly for example, he is way too quirky and on the nose eith they stuff they say, classic case of tryhard writing>combat takes a while to used to bit it's 100% more manageable with a controller, still clunky and lackluster but that's ok if the rpg elements are there>rpg elements are weak since your clsn has no meaning and you can learn everything>6 endings but barely replay value since most shit is scripted>oh you wanted the rich and cool sidequests of the original? Too bad, you have three kinds of sidequests. Take this parcel and deliver it, kill this anarch group or find this dude and kill him, that's ittldr dont buy at full price, wait for big discount if you want a one-and-done vampire game
>>724437738You can literally bite someone in the street and then run on top of a rooftop and crouch until the meter goes down you stupid fucking shill named Sandoosh.
>>724437924Sometimes, but not much until towards the end. That annoyed me too. I guess part of it can be explained by that mark weakening you, but still, you'd think these nearly-thinbloods would show a bit more fucking respect.
>>724437832In a snowstorm no less, nobody will believe druggies in a snowstorm
>>724437872>>724437798I very much liked the Blaxploitation theme they had going on and the permanent party, but the level design and powers you get just aren't as good. shit gun design too, Prey is bogstandard and it knocks Deathloop out of the park
>>724437738I am playing it, 20 hours in and just killed the Hunter negress. I have fed on probably 30 citizens at this point You bite them, the meter turns red, you run up a roof, the meter goes away>b-but you get auto killed if you stick around and fight the copsCool. Still always faster to just bite the victim and then run. You will never break the Masquerade that wayQuite telling that the shill only became angry when I told an undecided potential buyer the truth
>>724437954Basically no RPG elements allowed
>>724437796some ventrue would just come on and use mass dominate or whatever to persuade everyone they saw nothing. Whatever, it's all gay and it's fake. Who cares.
>>724437920Information leaks>Cool AI edit broNo information leaks>Unfortunate loss of life following gas leakage delirium in headlines
>>724437954And as other people mentioned, you can bite anyone everywhere, climb to a roof and the meter goes down. It's a very forgiving system
>>724437954>they went with snowy streets because they couldn't do proper streets but quite comfy atmosphere outside stillI've thought about this a lot and the only conclusion I came to was implementing a traffic system with moving vehicles would've been too difficult and having completely static vehicles like the first game would've been an immersion breaker given the size of the hub. You can excuse it when it's only like 2 streets but multiple city blocks with no moving cars would've been weird.
gonna wait for this mod before i ever try it out
>>724438017>>724437989you die if the masquerade meter fills up, first of all. and you get more loosh if you drain them dry, not just bite them and run away. if you do it in the open then you won't have time to drain them and escape without breaking the masquerade, because using vampire speed and agility hurts it too. but yeah sure, you can just bite someone quickly and run away, but you're getting like 1/5 of what you'd get if you did it right so that's a dumbass way to approach it.
>>724438087Plus it’s a nightclub, could just claim spiked drugs that turned people violent
>>724438136Yeah that too
>>724438016They should've leaned way harder into the Blaxploitation thing. It's obvious from the aesthetic they were going for but none of the characters are Putney Swope or Black Dynamite.
>>724437997I had to mute streams when I heard the Nosferatu talking, but any Elder, especially one who was in torpor and wasn't keeping up with modern times who was spoken to like he spoke to you should just behead the fag and deal with the consequences of doing so later.
>>724438102Why do people just make shit up like this? for the (you)s? Is the Masquerade meter more forgiving if you play on easy, or did you even play it?
>>724438110 the first one has taxis though and they move... sort of
>>724437902Arkane Austin completely fell of, but I have no news of Arkane Lyon post Colantonio.As an aside, I think people were overly harsh on Deathloop.
>>724438110The snowy streets are actually a reasonably good excuse for why there is no traffic. I have no clue about Seattle but during particularly nasty snowstorms, and Seattle’s is said to be brutal, where i’m at in the lower midwest, all roads close and only emergency vehicles can be out. We do see the ambulance in one of the delivery quests so maybe that’s all that’s allowed to be out?
>>724438132That's not the point you fucking stupid cow worshiper. The point is that you can BITE SOMEONE IN FRONT OF COPS, then run away and the meter goes down, meaning no masquerade violation. Goddamn retarded fucking shill piece of shit. Your parents hate you.
>>724438256desperate for attention, huh? People get bit on the streets every day in Seattle. it's no big deal.
>>724438236Deathloop was disappointing after Prey and Dishonored but I think people are coming around to the fact it has a nice aesthetic, is still a real im sim, and has a really good idea, just that the execution could’ve been better.
>>724438184Yeah, I think if they leaned harder on 60's and 70's action movies and had more of the aesthetic the cover and initial reveal trailer had the game could have been more popular but ultimately it does a few things incorrectly enough that you notice the bad flow. A big issue too is that it's clearly a roguelike scenario but they don't lean into it as hard
>>724438246It's a fine excuse. I'm not upset about it. But it is quite transparent and practical decision making.
>>724438306I'm going to fuck you up your shill ass.
>>724437859>Again, just a case of you wanting to see what you want to hate in there.So he's not invincible? He doesn't fucking effortlessly kill you, AN ELDER, if you cross him? He doesn't have a nonsensical fucking ending where he can rise to the top despite being an ugly nobody faggot? You fucking retard.
>>724438132I have let the animation fully play out on every single citizen I have fed on. I have never used the button prompt to stop feeding early. The meter fills up to just barely in the red while the animation plays out, then you run awayWhy the fuck are you lying about such a basic aspect of the game? Not to mention with how utterly retarded TCR is, it would be impossible to feed on choleric people otherwise cause the cops would always shoot them before you drag them to an alley
>>724438236You may be right about that, but I think that's because it's their newest non-multiplayer game and is also the first game people noticed Arkane going downhill with
>>724438196I played on normal and it really is that way, you can bite anyone everywhere and if there's an alley, just climb up and wait for 30 seconds, boom, no more masquerade violation. Why are you trying to imply that it's a difficult mechanic to manage in the game?
>>724438383Cope. I accept your concession.
>>724438386>it would be impossible to feed on choleric people otherwise cause the cops would always shoot them before you drag them to an alleyliteral skill issue
>>724438306Damn we have a Nos disinformation agent here in our own local 4channel thread
The worst part about the Arkane Blade is you know for a fucking fact it's going to be MCU Blade and not Wesley Snipes Blade. When Deadpool or Wolverine cameo it's going to take me out of it immediately.
>>724438196That's how it works, Ranjeep.
>>724438425>no argumentsYou stupid fucking faggot. Of course your response is Reddit-tier MUH ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION bullshit when you're too stupid and afraid to address any of my points. You pathetic little bitch.
>>724438421>>724438386what difficulty were you on? Because I just beat the game literally an hour ago and that's bullshit
>>724438421I wish someone could mod a meter that would slowly rise throughout the game if you are seen and if you reach the top you don’t die but you get constantly harassed by police. i think it’s actually possible in terms of the engine, only issue would be if you are able to enter buildings and start quests with it going on but the meter clearly can fluctuate. Maybe someone who knows more about modding could see
>>724438519>meltdownI won.
>>724438425why are you incapable of answering questions
>>724420997There's this Redemption reimagining mod they've been working on for years, but I have no fucking clue if they'll ever release it. Probably not.
It was cool how you could knock people into the air and do insane air combos on them, felt like some shit straight out of a vampire martial arts movie. The combat was a bitch sometimes against the stronger enemies because it's so fucking fast, if you don't have high FPS then you won't know what the fuck's going on and you'll just have to cheese it by throwing shit at them or using guns.
>>724438624Why are you samefagging? I already accepted your concession.
>>724438456So you concede all other points. GoodBiting the angry dude right there is still faster than finding an angry dude without cops around >>724438421Don't get baited. I'm playing on hard, it only changes enemy damageBest case scenario, this is a fucking retard who got scared by the red meter and never actually tried it out, and now he's talking like an expert cause his ego is brushed
>>724417256don't mean to shill this guy, idk who he is but my god he tears this piece of shit fake vampire game apart. this game is just for casual people who wanna be a vampire but threw away the lore entirely. also it pisses me off that i know its tolly who kills you when you break the masquerade, how the fuck can some short gay nossy kill a 400 year old elder? did the game even mention that you're a 400 year elder? why are we treated like a bitch?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hgRlu7MF8&t=1s
>>724438613>Ceaselessly defending a heckin wholesome rainbow faggot character You win the gay bitch award. Congratulations.
>>724438548Normal. If you suck a person fully (which I always did), you'd go to the redzone on the masquerade meter which left you plenty of time to escape if you know how to play. Why are you trying to imply that it's a hard mechanic to manage?
>>724438703>1:19:13....Fine.
>>724438678>Biting the angry dude right there is still faster than finding an angry dude without cops aroundnot for purposes of getting that blood type because you'll get less, so you'll have to do that at least 2-3x more times for the same result. It's better to lure them somewhere secluded, plus it's more fun. Also there are some powers you can use for crowded areas, like combining Mass Manipulation and Cloud Memory or something like that.
>>724438728>Why are you trying to imply that it's a hard mechanic to manage?why do you argue like a jew? I didn't say it was hard to manage, I was arguing against a fag, maybe you, who was saying it doesn't even matter.
>>724438717>REEEEEE I HATE GAY PEOPLEThis isn't a personality.
>>724438854I'm the guy who said that it's a very forgiving system which is true
>>724438561If someone can figure out how it can avoid sequence breaking i think it can be done since it’s a meter. All you need to do is manipulate values and tell the game do not lower this value at this point
>>724438925It's the natural state of things you fucking freak.
>>724438790You are lying. I get 100 blood points. So do youI already told you I fully drained every citizenI don't even know if stopping early actually gives any blood because like I said I never had a reason to stop early. At this point I'm just gonna assume you are lying about that too>>724438854It does, in fact, not matterHilarious to cry about kike tactics while lying about basic game mechanics in every postYou have never played this gameI'm going to bed, go ahead and lie some more. I'm satisfied that everyone ITT saw you for what you are
>>724439043So you don't actually have any real arguments or criticisms and you're just whining about people that are different from you.
>>724430158While there is no definite proof, lets approach it this way>Fabien is a unreliable narrator>which is why in his head he went back to Fletcher to talk and Pandora gets killed and propped up in like 10 seconds, he didnt actually go back, he did it, its why Fletcher doesnt notice someone entering his sanctum and killing her: because he already asked Fabien to get rid of her.>Misty refers to the one that she was afraid of as "her savior", and Fabien saved Misty by embracing her, pretty obvious that she saw Fabien killing the guy in front of the auto shop and then ran >Tolly repeatedly teases Fabien about it because he knows Fabiens head has been fucked with nonstop>the copycat killings are Fabiens way of subconciously leaving himself a memo to remind himself of the original case and crack it, Campbell even mentions that he cracked it in days this time, way faster than usual, when he confronts Campbell at the warehouseNow it isnt clear if this was influenced by Gideon fucking with this head or Fabien is doing this trough his own schizo malk powers (which is something he theorizes in his final convo)Keep in mind the copycat victims were all human, not ghouls or vampires, way easier to kill
What do you get for finding all the cameras and blood graffiti? I know you can fuck Patience if you get all the crosses and they're easy to find, but I'm at like 29/30 with the others and don't feel like searching the whole city, or going everywhere with a guide since I don't know which ones I'm missing.>inb4 it lets you fuck the biker and the gay pianistlmao I hope not
>>724438386From experiments, as far as I can tell: - the meter fills differently depending on the number of people on the streets. You can go from nothing to middle+ yellow just climbing a pipe if you brought enough people in front of it.- You can feed on someone in the middle of a main street without it even filling if you time it right, or are lucky enough that the NPC spawned far enough from witnesses.- some areas seem to have their own rules - I got the bar to fill right beside the glass of weaver tower with no witness around.- if you get killed by Tolly for getting the red bar filled up, you get a penalty loss on accumulated ichor.- If a witness saw you break the masquerade into the yellow and called a cop, the cop finding you can get the alarm to go to red instantly.There's a lto of neat stuff with the hunting sub-sytems, but the game trivializes the whole thing so much (if only becasue of the constantly full character spawning all around) you barely need to interact with it, sadly.
>>724439137You can fuck patience without finding the crosses
>>724439142So it just a fluctuating meter that could be manipulated for a mod, huh
>>724439078whatever fag, sweet dreams
When is Grimbeard releasing his VTMB2 review
>>724439094>So you don't actually have any real arguments or criticismsStupid fuck!>>724438383>So he's not invincible? He doesn't fucking effortlessly kill you, AN ELDER, if you cross him? He doesn't have a nonsensical fucking ending where he can rise to the top despite being an ugly nobody faggot?You're the one that can't even face any arguments and tries to pull some retarded "And then everybody clapped" mic drop bullshit with your MUH ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION faggotry. You stupid bitch.
>>7244392292040 probably.He's still reviewing games from 2004 my man.WHAT'S UP GOTH GAMER NATION!?
>>724439245>no argument>ad hominemI accept your concession.
I think the parkour system would be almost perfect if you could wallrun
>>724438425>>724438613>>724438925>>724439094Why are leftists so bad at defending their positions?
>get jumpscared by the raptor>get jumpscared by the trex roar
>>724439321He reviewed slitterhead
>>724439412>slitterheadThis game reminds me of that quite a bit. I fucking loved slitterhead
>>724418893>I wish ecoterrorists were realThe FF7 thread is that way
>>724439461If this piece of fucking shit reminds you of Slitterhead that ensures that I will never try Slitterhead.
>>724439327I had arguments, you disingenuous cunt. All you ever do is run away from them. Fucking coward.>ad hominemYou don't even know what that is you pseud. It would be ad hominem if my argument was that you're a fucking faggot. That's not what my argument is. My argument is>So he's not invincible? He doesn't fucking effortlessly kill you, AN ELDER, if you cross him? He doesn't have a nonsensical fucking ending where he can rise to the top despite being an ugly nobody faggot?AND I'm calling you a faggot, as a bonus. Leftists trying to act smart by calling ad hominem incorrectly will never stop being funny.
>>724439527Slitterhead is complete jank and not everyone will like it
>>724439094He is a terrible character though, go check the original Tolly at 6:30https://youtu.be/6xRCZePzzqM?si=74oXbV-DOSTtJZsaYour "different" character was a forced addition, a stereotype
>>724439504Fuck you merc
>>724439461>>724439527Nah VTMB2 is way more polished and frankly more bland than Slitterhead.Slitterhead is more like a modern Deadly Premonition.
>>724439531>argument through repetitionThird concession accepted.
>>724439648Still refusing to address anything because you're too much of a coward.>>724439648>argument through repetitionThat's funny when all you do is keep repeating your concession faggotry. Fucking idiot.
>>724439531Nta and I just came across this thread but Jesus Christ you sound fucking miserable. When are you going to kill yourself? You are obviously unwell.
>>724439772You're being baited hard
>>724439772>so mad that he got completely schooled that he responded twiceKek.
>>724439095Let me rephrase that, I guess: the game strongly implies that its /is/ Fabien, it /is/ the most likely explanation, but I do enjoy that it does not state it with any certainty as far as I could see.The whole Fabien situation is bleak when you remove the protective persona and I think it works all the better for the uncertainty.
>>724439797>still no arguments >still can't address any questions that were raised>still go off on an irrelevant tangent while pretending there aren't unchallenged points remainingWhy are leftists so fucking cowardly when it comes to argumentation?
>>724417694VAE VICTUS
>>724417694Writing in this was amazing
>>724439817That implies he's pretending to be cowardly and retarded. He is cowardly and retarded. It's not bait at this point. It's a faggot being a faggot.
>>724439981I don't even know what you guys are arguing about nor do I care but I know that it isn't worth getting this upset over. I just came into this thread when I read your post. Calm down Anon and stop taking this shithole so seriously. Nothing here matters.
kinda like her normal look more actually. the glasses and tank top are cuter
The biggest issue this game has is that nothing you do mattersClan choice doesn't matter"X was irritated by that" literally doesn't matterFailed the mask of a thousand faces vibe check - doesn't matterBroke masquerade for the 100th time by clawing a civilian to death in the middle of the street - doesn't matteretc
>>724439571I still miss the gay bdsm dark elves
>>724439571Damn HSL Tolly is a way less interesting characterThis "vertical slice" was all bullshit anyway
>>724439865I think having a serial killer in your head is more cool that way but his personality doesn't actually vibe with it very well. If they wanted that approach to make more sense Fabien should at least be pro-active in saying you should commit murders, not that there's ever a moral choice in this game on that end
>>724440432There's more to being interesting than just one's sexual orientation, Anon
never been to Seattle, is it true that there are weird abominations roaming around the sewers of Seattle?
>>724438775yeah hated how long he made the video but my god his points destroy this game a new asshole
>>724440347>"X was irritated by that" literally doesn't matterDoesn't matter /much/. Which is so sad, because the system seems robust enough to accomodate some interesting situations if properly put to use.Being able to obtain opposing reactions from Ryong's last conversations with the very same answers because I had played a totally different character in each playthrough was so cool.I agree with you the game is too lenient with its sub-systems, like it's afraid people won't bother with them and/or designer couldn't find the fun-to-tedium balance.>>724440560The detective persona is here to mask his guilt - the closer we get to an acknowledgment is him theorizing he embraced out of spite, to get a form of power back in his life.I think he neither enjoys nor wants to do what he does. So him breaking the mask would need a pretty delicate touch.
Good evening, Anon.Mmm hmm hmm hmm. Do you ever worry, Anon, that the thread is going to end?Mm hmm hm hmm. Do you have any idea how insignificant your posts are? When they start 404ing the thread, you will be but a ban on their screens.There is a Janny in the thread. The torrent of (you)s and the flood of shitposts, all will be consumed. They are coming. These are the Final Posts.
lmao im watching this guy piss
what are /v/'s honest opinion on this games interpretation of Malks vs the first one? all of them are insane but I kinda prefer this one since they are not just some lol so random, but there's still some certain charm about Malks on VTMB1
>>724438703>threw away the lore entirely.I call bullshit? I mean, call hem surface level if you will, but the game is filled with references to the game line, from Mikael's Dream, to the Giovanni Chronicle, to Fall of London to VtM Redemption, Bloodlines 1 obviously, and more general RPG lore, V5 or otherwise.
>>724441316I like the way the bloodlines 1 delved deeper into the Malkavian lore. In Redemption there is just a mention of them until you end up in New York City.
>>724440432the fuck are you talking about? tolly was fine in alpha, the new tolly is an annoying faggot that bitches about anything. Nossys used to be chill secret vamps, not annoying faggots out in open all the time
>>724441097I'm always somewhat sad these threads die and we stop being able to do shitposts about VtM or WoD
>>724417796I felt nothing. It's funny how the game tries so hard to make you like him.
>>724441337>the g-game has references!!ignore the fact you play as a 400 elder vampire even weakened can fuck up everyone easily and also the fact the safia and phyre should of been roasted into flames when they came in contact with sunlight in the end, or the fact a random vampire can break the masquerade to kill you for fucking breaking the masquerade? it's all fucking retarded cmon bro
>>724441316Bloodline 1 Malks are rather far from Lulsorandumb even if there's a few situations, but you have to play the game once or twice to really understand where the symbolism of your genuinely disturbed and schizo responses leads to. But on the other hand, Malks are generally not supposed to be cripplingly insane for the most part so Fabien and Gideon are alright on that end. The only problem is they have unenjoyable personalities and the clan curse doesn't really show as much as it should. Not that every detective should have to ramble on like nonsense but if you've ever played Disco Elysium Harry is pretty much a Malkavian with the way his latent schizophrenia gives him crime solving superpowers Fabien is a bit like that in some regards but because his entire story isn't very personal and his schizoid nature isn't well represented it doesn't have the same appeal
>>724441316I have nothing against fishmalks as long as they're entertaining.Bloodlines 1 focused more on the whole collective conscioussness aspect with the MC, and the powers getting out of control with Grout.Bloodlines 2 cares more about the individual's story for better and worse. I think the idea of psychometry being a conversation for Fabien was actually pretty nice, if overused. My main regret is Gideon, actually. Unlesss I'm missing something there's not enough to build anything interesting out of him. And he seemed so promissing too.
>people in the thread saying this pozzed piece of shit cobbled together has a decent to good storythats how I know this place fucking sucks
>>724441802Gideon should be a Malkavian too but yeah he's just a background extra. I think he might be expanded upon in the DLC but I wouldn't keep my hopes up
>>724441859Yeah I don't get it either. Must be redditors or unironic shills.
>>724441683Saying the game does retarded things with the lore and claiming "it threw away the lore entirely" are two very different propositions.The later is patently false. The former I very much agree with.No need to throw around false accusations when there's enough real ones to keep us occupied.
>>724441683>phyre should have been roasted into flamesI'm not a lore fag, but they conveniently mention how vamphyre is extremely resilient, like that's how he must've survived the moscow fires or some shit.
I kinda understand why there are no playable Nosferatu's now, the thought of a Nosferatu sheriff sounds so wrong. Lou would be the laughing stock of the Camarilla if she hired an ugly piece of shit as her lawman
>>724417256It probably can be but it won't be because nobody cares enough. Just like Starfield.
>>724441316Every Malkavian has a different form of madness afflicting them which makes them unpredictable the one from B1 is just a funny schizo
>>724442372Elder's an elder.
>>724440291agreed
>>724440916https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKpx2DxGwYit's coming
Is LA as much of a crime-ridden, diry, disease ridden and homeless infested shithole as VTMB 1 makes it out to be?
>>724441683>a random vampire can break the masquerade to kill you for fucking breaking the masqueradethat wasn't Tolly it was Cain dumbass.
>>724442669No it's actually much worse
>>724441859>>724441975maybe cuz it ain't pozzed despite what your favorite eceleb said to rile you up and make you click their sponshorship links
>>724442809wut
>>724442809Sure, tranny.
>>724417694This game is pure kinoIf it wasn’t for the dogshit movement it would be at least a 9/10
>>724442904literally no trannies in the whole game. you are addicted to porn and internet drama
I really want to try the anarch route to see if I still end up being a sheriff but the thought of doing the flashbacks and the flashbacks inside the flashbacks annoys me
>>724442979Of fucking course you end up being a sheriff. Are you retarded?
>>724442949Trans rope ywbnaw
>>724443031there are tons of dialogues whether you decide to stay and be sheriff or to move on
>>724442949I think patience is one, but you’re correct, he’s retarded and also brown and has broccoli hair
>>724443120you the two (2) times you got asked what you're going to do when the whole thing is over?
>>724443031wait really? thats lame but I guess it makes sense since you're kicking out benny
>>724443129I didn't get that impression at all from Patience, aside from having no tits
>the only NPCs that refuse gay sex are the white biker guysbased
>>724443348They use they/them pronouns so i just assumed tranny
>>724443129I don't think Patience is a tranny, just a typical they/them girl that thinks shes special. Probably would've grown out of that phase like most people do if she wasn't cursed to be a fucking toreador.
>>724443394Silky is gay though
>>724442372> Nosferatu> Bad option for a SheriffFuckers have Obfuscate and Potence: a strong Nos as a Sheriff would be scary as hell (and if that's not enough, they also have Animalism, so you can add a horde of ghouled rats/dogs to his arsenal, not to mention the capacity of manipulating the Beast of other Kindred).Not to mention that Sheriff can be more than a big scary fucker (most civilised domains have Sheriffs that aren't just executioners: but something closer to an actual authority) so one from a clan known for information gathering would be an amazing fit.
>>724436405To be fair it is insufferably woke.
>>724443493only if you flirted with him, fag. they only ask for vampire sex when you unlock their last power if you flirt with them (and choose the right responses)
>>724443568He mentions he had a boyfriend in the past my dude
>Fire hits the security guard in the first room so hard he goes flying 30 feet, slams into the door and dies instantly>Literally every strike after that is some limp-wristed slap that barely does anythingIt's actually impressive how chink room managed to fuck up everything about this game
>>724443558>retarded anarch says some retarded anarch shit>anon gets butthurtlmao you need a hug?
I saw someone say that there's a pill bottle in the game where, if you zoom in on it, it's a tweet talking about Hardsuit Labs. Does anyone have a picture?
>>724443129Nah she's just a flattie
The gameplay lead on the game said that he was always an advocate for being able to stealth through as many encounters as possible (he was hired for his experience working on Crysis and Alien Isolation), and says that while he can't promise anything, the complaints people have about being forced into combat is a high priority for him.
>>724442979Personally I didn't like that ending, maybe because it didn't tell me shit about what else happened, like the results of (actual spoiler) siccing my childe on Lou and Glacier Tower>>724443629did you know you can hold the attack button to throw people like that?
>toreador primogen is somehow the least attractive woman in the gamedefend this
>>724443829She was hot in the sweltering summer of 1869.
>>724443187you mean*
>>724443790I didn't know that about the padlocks, good to know. I was annoyed sometimes after stealthing through an area and then being forced to kill everyone anyway to open the door. Sometimes I think it was because they couldn't spend the money on additional reactivity and voice lines, if you got through there nonlethally. Plus I guess vampires don't really care that much about killing people/things, usually
>>724443794>Hold attack down for a heavy>Enemy gets knocked back 1 foot instead of not moving at allWowee, definitely worth no melee weapons or guns for this shit
>>724417694Humongous faggot>>724420346>>724420374Faggot zoom zooms found
>>724443790I like that stealth is actually viable on some of the boss fights, but stealth in general is kinda shit. It feels like its a coin flip if the banu crawl or invisibility even work. You have those moments where you can chain abilities together and wipe out an entire room to make up for it, I guess.
>>724423480100% they have no taste nor the ability to appreciate a good game with good atmosphere. That game is TEEMING with atmosphere and whole I am not a fan of some of the modern levels I still cherish the game.
>>724444013why be such a fag and act like it's weird that some massive vampire doesn't get knocked back as far as a random human. it's like you never even throw people off rooftops lmao
>>724443829Despite that, unlike our simp MC, she is allowed to have a legion of Blood Dolls that worship her (even after her death).Nomad is probably the most pathetic Elder in the setting.
>>724443829She's still pretty hot
Same here Patience, now get on your knees and suck my vampire dick.
>>724444237Because, according to the shill's script, this game is supposed to be an elder vampire power fantasy yet it utterly fails at that
>>724423651Terribly based. My older bro runs a v20 DA game for our friend group since 2015 that started from the Dark ages and is currently taking place in the wild west. So far we went through interesting events, we also have a parallel modern Campaign that's lit. I think we'll do a Roman prequel soon.
Somebody make a new thread
>>724442723you fucking dumb nigger it was tolly nossy ugly hand that stabs you fucking NIGGER! GOD THESE TOURISTS ARE FUCKING FAGGOTS
>>724444478The only romance option worth anything.It feels good to go to Niko's backroom and fuck the autistic artist.
>>724444791She looks like a boy
>>724444478Sex
New>>724444898>>724444898>>724444898
>>724444804you're gay as fuck dude, or maybe you watch too much anime. no male looks like that
>>724444791I do not want Niko's sloppy seconds.
>>724440291Her bouncing tits top tier though
