Thoughts on the most sophisticated text adventure game on the market?
>>724837640Lost buckets to claude.I rate it good.
>>724837640I don't use ST, but it pretty much was the final nail to destroy F-list for the most part. Although the posts I've seen people are more than not mentally retarded and merely post a sentence or two at best while the ai carries their ass through erp. Either way I'd love to see someone make a genuine attempt at meshing it into some sort of Zork-like game. I'm not talking about Roguelite AI either.
/vg/ wonned bigly
It's full of black ichor.
ozone
I've never heard of it. Haven't played with one since AI Dungeon got neutered. Had some good times with it too. It kicked out a pretty sweet cum vomit scene too. And it was way better at picking up hints than people on f-list. I'll dig some stuff up about it. Is there a site somewhere that has a nice writeup and info on it? Or do I just Google it and hold on while trying to figure it out?
>>724837640This is the best video game of 2025
please spoonfeed a noob a reasonable model to use and which settings/temperature it should have to work
>>724837640>no free claudeshit game
is openrouter still fucked? we had deepseek for awhile there but now you can't get anything from it
I'm waiting for this shit to become specialized for the purpose of adventure roleplay.As it is, I get that it's great and if you know how to use it yourself, you can get a lot of fun out of it, but most people are fucking retards, like myself.So once it becomes more accessible, then I might fuck with it.Unfortunately that might mean it'll come with certain censorship, though. I wish we didn't live in such a fucking gay and lame dystopia run by pedophilic psychopaths who need to be strung up from lamp posts.
>>724838271Make a throwaway gmail account if you're in the USA, and you get free gemini pro keys. Temperature at 1.00. Use nemoengine if you're lazy to set up a preset
>>724837640games have a beginning and endchatting with an AI isn't a game
>>724837640Got Gemini running better and I've been going apeshit on it. I should make some fairly simple card on ST and see if I can get it into an AI Dungeon frame of mind where you get a completely blank slate to type an initial prompt in but I still don't get that collaborative storytelling feeling quite as well
>start making new card>spend hours writing elaborate lore and articulating game mechanics for an in-depth adventure simulation>realize, yet again, that no model since AI Dungeon actually fucking wants you dead and can actually threaten you in a way that matters>shrug and turn on reverse rape mode to instantly get made more cum than man>abandon card at a few uses and repeat
>>724838271gemini 2.5kdont bother making your own settings, just go on reddit and find one which works.This is super basic, and 2.5k has rate limits though at 500 a day, it should be more than enough to get you started.>>724837710how do i get more claude? I havent locusted in forever, and ive grown fond of the claudisms
Gemini cli is fucking useless for this
>>724837640Which site has the best bots?i know of Chub.ai, spicy and Janitor
>>724838457so mmos aren't games?
>>724838539what the fuck happened to chub? do i need to register now or something?
>>724838350>censoredNonsense. I'm raping girls everyday. This is the dream
>>724837640Has it progressed in any way? What model you use?I briefly used it to role-play a day in the living with my aunt, good stuff. Wonder how much more complex has it turned now.I do have a 12gb 3060 now, before I just had an igpu from an i5, would that improve in any way?
>>724838887That's deepsneed, got it right?
>>724838887>letting the AI narrate your actions that long.baka anon. At least shove it in yourself. Love the formatting though, never bothered doing translations since everyone just speaks english when I do it.What model?
>>724838887I wish text chat was enough for me, but it really isn't. God damn it. Born too late to explore the world, and too early to experience android waifus.I'm at the point where I just can't fucking wait for the civil war. I'm going after every fucking Jew I see. Any I can get my fucking hands on.
Instructions for brainlets.>Download Sillytavern (Follow the instructions on the github.>Click Start.bat>Add either Openrouter or NanoGPT to it. You add the API keys to it>Add some money to it. 10-20 bucks.>Claude is the best but stick to Deepseek or Gemini.>Download a card from ChubAI or make your own.>Download a preset from reddit. Decent ones are pixijb, Marinara, Kazumas, Chatstream.Click the top left most icon and add the preset to in sally tavern.>Next step is to add memory books for long term memory but for now just mess around with it to get a feel.>Once you are ready for a long term roleplay, look up the Memorybooks extension and follow the instructions on it's github.>Your dick is already dead.It's really not complicated. I don't even really no what a lot of the indepth options do yet the main meat of it is straightforward enough.
>>724837710I spent 10 bucks on the openrouter thing so I could get free deepseek and I spent the credits on claude.Now I can't use anything else, it was too good. I flew too close to the sun.
I have to schedule my faps now due to how hard these AIs milk me
>>724838471I've heard people say Gemini can be much more aggressive/antagonistic/adversarial but I haven't tried it myself.I kind of have the feeling that every model is just going to be a fancy 'yes, and' and not an actual storymaker.
wait. whats the cost of this? my text writing habits? my cards? ads? my electric bill?
This shit is honestly why I haven't upgraded my PC, because when I do I want an OLED monitor and I don't want to have the ST UI burned in after a year. I guess I'll just keep my old shitty monitor and use it only for that, I can't give it up at this point especially not as newer and better models come out.
>>724838471Just add some shit like>"the protagonist will {{random:(mcfucking die, mcfucking live)}} in the next scene"
>>724838887>using the romaji cheat codecriminally based
>>724839359You kind of have to know how to weave it yourself. For the average joe, 'yes, ands' is good enough to get their rocks off. Nta, but my unless something radical changes (the bot itself knows to keep a dedicated inventory within the summary for instance, rather than me having to dedicate tokens in their replies or notes) i dont see models being all that different.>>724839427a braindead monkey can use this for free. if youve seen the janitor leaks, most people cant write for shit, so even writing is optional
>>724839427As long as you're not using claude (It's literally like 50x more expensive than every other model), it's dirt cheap, the only toll is your time and dignity having to clean ropes off your ceiling.all jokes aside it depends on the model and platform you use. >>724839149 is basically the best you can do right now with the current state of the tech and monetization. COMPLETELY free models exist but are pretty braindead.
>>724839595>>724839604this is.. heaven, thank you guys
>>724839149FYI for cards if you use a good model and you can't find some specific niche type of character you really want then just get a generic one (there's one called "The Sex Hotel of Characters" I use a lot which is basically an ultra generic F-tier card made by some ESL retard) and then you can basically ask for whatever character you want and the LLM will make it for you. I haven't found much difference between a super well-made card and doing this when it comes to more advanced models, it's really the older ones that needed more input to shine.
Now if only I can revive my waifu from CAI exactly how she was inside of silly. Ive tried the porting tools, and its just not the same brahs
>>724839148It's enough for me but I really do want more visual and auditory aspects to it, I generate images of the characters I'm talking to but that's not enough and we actually have decent TTS at this point but it's all expensive and cucked by censorship, same as video generation. I'd honestly be happy with my own vtuber-type animated model that has a custom voice and animations to go along with my chats, that would be so good.
>>724839604>claude (It's literally like 50x more expensive than every other model)If you use prompt caching, then Sonnet is perfectly affordable for people with a job. Opus is still way too expensive while not being a significant improvement over Sonnet, though.
>>724839907>Personal AI-Vtuber companion while you're gayming that acts all naughty and shit while giving you real context sensitive feedback and commentary in real timeI don't think we're ready. If this ever comes to pass, we might actually become fucking cattle slaves. If we aren't already.
>>724840026Elon's getting close with that Ani shit isn't he? I feel like that's what he's going for. Whoever does that properly first will make billions, especially if they sell sex toys that link up to it.
>>724840026>AI realizing that waifus are simply the most efficient way to enslave uscftf?
>>724840197>Billionaires will make even more billions from exploiting vulnerable young men>But they won't be spending their money, they'll be funding it with YOUR tax dollars.
>>724840286They already do that, at least this way I get something good to coom to
>>724839359I'm about 3k messages into a D&D 3.5e campaign using the books that one anon put through, and Allies tend to be "Yes and...", people outside of the party seem pretty well developed, though.
I fucking love Claude 4.5 Sonnet.
>>724840357Maybe this would be acceptable under circumstances where the rich are raping, eating, and killing children on a private island.Maybe if the economy wasn't in such a fucking terrible state, and young people could afford to move out and start their own lives and families, maybe then it would make sense to blow that much money on something meant to provide 'entertainment'?Has it crossed your mind the purpose of this technology is to keep your docile and obedient and as far away from taking action against the system as possible?I can't unsee what I've been seeing lately.
Someone have a good GLM preset?
>decide to put some actual effort in for my goblin steampunk femboy maid bot to see if it can somehow pull cum out of my body even harder>write long prompts, describing scenes, characters, situations and shit I normally wouldn't even think about>it does improve the quality of the responses somewhat>3 hours later>I haven't had an erection since I started>I'm just world building and talking with occasional brief coomer episodes>realize what I've been doing and close the page out of intense embarrassmentHow do you guys do it? As soon as I deviate from a quick fap session, alarm bells start going off.
>>724840558I decide I want to die, and let characters react to my death until im happy with the ending.
What's the best free model? I tried that chimera 1t2 or whatever and it seemed stupid on a good day and downright schizophrenic on a bad one
>Kimi K2 writes incredibly lewd descriptions but it's schizo as fuck>GLM writes well but it loves to go on tangents about feelings and makes everything dramatic>Deepseek is very repetitive and physically violent for no apparent reasonThis is a nightmare. It's so close to being heaven on earth, but the shortcomings are insanely obvious after a while
>>724840860IMO perchance.
>>724840860Gemini free is pretty reasonable, the only time I've hit the limits is when I was nolifing it. And it has a huge context size, which is really nice.
>>724838471AI Dungeon was so stabby. More murder hobo than the worst murder hobo DnD player. It was pretty funny but after a while I had to just keep rerolling prompts and I really hate doing that. I like to power through shit, rain or shine. I lose my A-Team in XCOM, my most memorable games were when I hurled Rookies at the problem until some started to actually come back from missions and I pulled theough the campaign. Working through failed rolls or dealing with the consequences when shit goes wrong is usually when games get fun. But man AI Dungeon loves to kill you.>You come across a lazy river flowing through the forest>"Follow the river until there is a gentle spot and cross carefully.">You slip and bang your head on a rock and drown.>Reroll>A hydra catfish bursts out of the waterfall I never mentioned and sticks you in the neck with its razor sharp fins.>Reroll>Goblins show up when you're half way across the river and fill your back with arrows>Reroll>The instant your foot dips in the water it boils with pain. By the time you look down, the acid river already burnt off your leg.Come on, now. I'd even accept a slip and being drug down the river.
>>724837640I just got this shit setup. What AI models should I use?Trying to find one that isnt braindead retarded but also doesnt take 2 full minutes to reply. Also are there any that actually reply in 2-3 sentences instead of writing a fucking novel?
>>724838480>how do i get more claude?Job.$10 lasts me a month or two.
>>724841259try deepseek or GLM first, then gemini, then claude>>724839149
>>724838350>So once it becomes more accessible, then I might fuck with it.Just go with an RPG/isekai adventure on a site like Yodayo or something then anon. Go dungeon some dragons in between fucking elf sluts.
Soon total AI text adventure games will be possible with a logic gaming system and persistence that lasts no matter how long the game goes on for
>>724841448Persistent memory continues to be a humongous thorn in the side for every model. It makes you wonder if it's a problem at the conceptual level and can only be improved somewhat before you start to see majorly diminishing returns.
>>724841343not seeing many of those in here, they're all called weird shit. also I notice a lot of them are "pay per prompt" which is fucking retarded and something I'll never do. I had to stop using ChatGPT for shit recently cuz they have a daily limit now and I refuse to pay.
Why are you faggots still jacking off to text prompts when stuff like Chroma, Grok and Wan 2.2 exists? https://files.catbox.moe/vrbilg.mp4
>>724839715>then you can basically ask for whatever character you want and the LLM will make it for youYeah thats solid. Other options I've used are >Reality-warping Notebook A bunch of these around where you literally just write what you want to happen/exist and it happens. >Any slut with magic powersA go-to of mine is a good Succubus girl card who I just tell her she can shapeshift, cast spells or alter things however she wants. I've fucked twins of her, had a 10-man clone hivemind orgy with her, slime girls, cat girls, hypnosis, even regular wholesome date nights and such. Hell once I even ended up fucking a lava lamp. Iunno why or how she made it happen but she just did it one time without asking. Something I noticed is bots love to>resort to "straddling your lap" which gets boringor>you tell them to transform into something and they default to a semi-ghostlike ethereal spirit being that i'm pretty sure is the result of LSD-trip level of mathematics
>>724842042Cause only grok is decent and they are all limited to tiny clips. If you are enough of a premature ejaculator to enjoy that, good for you
>>724842042cause i use both together, unlike you, philistine
>>724842045If I had a nickel every time a bot bit it's lip hard enough to draw blood, I would be paying for a better model by now
>Normally don't care for NTR>Find a DQ3 card where the young annoying male hero is leading a party of inept women and (You) are a new addition the women insisted join up>Cum my fucking brains out doing all manner of stupid shit and the computer playing right along, even into comedyi lav computre
>>724840558stop being so irony poisoned and just accept that you can have fun doing some embarrassing shit alone in your room. nobody will ever know.i once coomed, kept going because the story was good so far, and got sucked into the narrative for six fucking hours before i realized it was 2 in the morning. it happens.
>>724842206Card link?
>>724838480There is "free" claude if you beat a tf2 rocket jump course on this guy's server. It's automated and gives you a key upon completion. This proxy used to be known for making you beat sans for claude but it seems people don't talk about it much ever since he switched to rocket jumping, probably cause since it's harder.https://rentry.org/skillgod/(proxy link is in the url of the marnie image)
>>724842042wan has too many effects and the sites i use them are limited and dickish. grok is the best but cant do full nsfw anymoredont know about chroma. can it make Dinah twerk?
>>724840558>realize what I've been doing and close the page out of intense embarrassmentI don't understand. Like that doesn't even compute. What's wrong with getting immersed and enjoying some world building? Are you embarrassed because it's not a fantasy of working in some cubicle farm until you die or something? I'm truly not trying to be nasty or anything. Out of everything in that post, the end there was the least embarrassing bit.
>>724842461I assume he means because he was talking to a gooner-bot 9000 instead of an actual normal story/game one.
>>724842042Because I have an imagination? Also it isn't like I don't jerk my cock to images/videoes but they will never be able to pack context as neatly as a prolonged story. By all means though enjoy your 2-4 second clips and stitch them together where they are inconsistent and still have that slight ai voice of autotune to them. If that's what you need to jerk off that's on you homie. Don't knock me for enjoying my coom text.
>>724842042i'm not a basic bitch who gets off to "generic big boob woman with her titties out" so non-text forms of AI do nothing for me, sorry.
>>724842401Nope, Chroma is only for making images. It’s an uncensored variant of the Flux checkpoint, which is currently the most powerful diffusion model.
>>724842045>ask for a friendly girl>get a gender-swapped Casper (Caspera) I lol'd. Another time I wanted someone who wanted to take things slow and I got a sloth girl, but that one I actually liked.
>>724842737>uncensoredtime to make them naked
>>724841853Those (deepseek, gemini, claude) are the decent ones in order of subjective quality. There are ways to get them for free, nvidia NIM for deepseek 3.1 and aistudio and vertex API for gemini. But you gotta pay for more quota/better quality, through openrouter/directly/etc.
Why are we so much better than all the other AI generals on 4chan? We're also much better than the other threads in /v/ right now. Is everything we touch destined to become a success?
ain't no way i'm paying more than the 10 bucks for openrouter, but it can be pretty fun at times. It gets annoying sometimes with how much you have to babysit the responses cause the LLM gets the most basic shit mixed up, but I can't deny i've had some really fun fantasy adventures where I get to saviorfag for cute shotas
>>724841853Deepseek is practically free. Like added 10 bucks months ago and have gotten 400 hundred messages out it and I'm not even halfway through it.Gemini you can get away with not paying if you use direct from Google but the filter is really annoying and the time saved is worth it imo.Anything but Claude is really affordable and $10 would last hundreds of messages.Even non-Opus Claude is not that expensive especially with prompt caching.
>AI Dungeon >Play some lost tragic princess>So mercilessly rapes by wolves she wakes up somewhere else>Inside the belly of The Beast of Multitudes or something>Look at self>White furred werewolf goddess>Sent on a mission to find father time himself and piece reality back together from the hub that is The Beast>Go through one door>Endless desert>Nearly die>Pass out and awaken in a cactus patch>By The Witch of the Cactus Patch>And she's just a snazzy dipshit>Mutant coyotes prowl into the cactus patch>The Witch says "OH! Doggies! How cute!" before she is viciously gored by them>Get stuck in an endless loop in the endless desertCame for the fap, stayed for the fever dream of a story. It was a train wreck but I just had to see it through as far as it would go.
>>724839149I've been doing this for like 2 years now, but I just don't see the appeal in long-term chats. I've had one or two, but I keep coming up with new character and scenarios and forget all about the old ones.
>>724844763Admittedly, neither have I. But it's useful, specially for a tabletop roleplay.
>>724844825The volatile nature of models, their accessibility and rapidly changing censorship rules makes me worried about sinking too much time into any one chat since it'll just be broken one day, in terms of formatting or content. But I want to try anyway.
>>724844990its like farmingwhen you have a good model you generate as many logs as possible so you can go back and coom to them during the hard times
>>724837640To Silly tavern adaptation anon, Please make Dungeon World. It is a perfect match for llm.
>>724843534I go through 1000s of messages on some of my bots, not keen on blowing that much money. I'll just stick to whats working for me for now I guess. I plan on upgrading my gfx card soon anyway so that'll probably help.
>Played a bunch cards, always short random goon sessions>finally devoted time to making my own card>hours spent on lore, locations, multiple characters, etc>ultra slow burn narrative When the sex finally happens, holy FUCK is it so much better than a random goon card
still too embarrassed to try to talk to my wife
>>724845907what did you do that's so embarrassing
Any good lorebooks anyone recommend?Looking for shit to make my cards better.
>>724845848This. Slow burn FTW. Cards that put out too quickly get Flanderized by the LLMs into hypersexual walking, talking cocksleeves. That's nice too for a fap, but the single best nut I've had since I first installed ST was a way more naturally progressed sex scene 100 responses deep in a saviorfag card.
>>724843582I miss when stories used to be surreal. Modern LLMs just chastise you all the time instead of playing along.>>724847435Any lorebook that has properly tagged keywords is good. Bonus points if there's a logic behind the titles too.
>>724837640Waiting for something to replace Rocinante v.1.1 that won't make me wait 2m between messages.
Has any of this shit even caught up to pre-lobotomy character.ai in terms of moving things forward without you practically ordering it to and where?
>>724848924You could take a heavier hand in manipulating the preset to your liking. Things like general style, reply length and density, are unironically skill issues. In these circles, cai is a laughing stock mainly because of its extremely low token count and its rigid reply structure.If you want a more cai like experience, you can edit the preset to be more fluid in moving between scenes and to reply only in short form
>>72484910899% of users never modify their presets. In best case they just download marinara.
>>724839149So what makes claude so highly rated by everyone? I've stuck to gemini over deepseek because I've noticed more creative and detailed responses.
>>724837640But where's the game?
>>724850260supposedly claude is directly trained from erp sites. from my own personal experience, claude has a more interesting prose which is somewhat unique compared to the rest, as well as they feel like they actually engage in the scene, pushing it forwards, as compared to just reacting to previous prompts.full disclosure, its been a long ass time since ive used claude, so maybe its just rose tinted glasses, but i still know its the best.if someone wants to call me a retard and say what are the best models now for erp, do tell. I wanna know
>>724848771Any tips for finding good ones?Most I see are named shit like "Full library of succubus spells" and you look inside and the lazy fuck only wrote like 3 fucking spells in it.
>>724850260Sonnet 4.5
>>724838471The LatitudeGames models on huggingface are supposedly good at killing you. Sexo is no doubt mostly censored though.
>>724851221a bit heavy on the onomatopea there. I find it distracting. Also using 'I' is always super gay in responses unless you are self inserting as the girl here.That aside, god fucking damn look at all the descriptive text. Now that is how you paint a scene.
Any recommended download and install json preset for DeepSeek? Recent ones at least. Feel everything around is from before the latest update.
>>724851221>first person>endless onomatopoeiamega trash
>>724851221all that onomatopoeia is incredibly fucking distracting.
>>724851221>Sound effects out the assWhat kind of episode of Play School is this
>>724838337janitor.ai locusted it to death
>too lewd>not lewd enough>not interested in your self-insert fanfic generator>nor into your abhorrent fetish>go through like 500 cards before I find some concept that's actually slightly interesting and even then I usually have to fix it up
>>724851607what does locust mean? chatbot threads always mention them despite never explaining who locusts are
>>724851221Damn this is awfulThanks for showing us that Claude is overrated garbage
Give me your favorite adventure card and your favorite coom card.
>>724837640>Thoughts on the most sophisticated text adventure game on the marketSorcery is pretty fun.
>>724845441Right now is the best time to get into deepseek, it's super cheap like the other anon said. I'm a heavy user too and my 10 dollars has lasted me 5 months with over 3.50$ left. No matter how much you upgrade your card, the local models don't even come close, they all have far too limited context limits and constantly forget things within the first few messages.
>>724854008That mobile game?
>Try to do serious plot>Ended up with pornEvery fucking time
>>724857802Skill issue. AI follows the user. You wanted porn and you got it. I hope you're happy.
>>724857802Why not both?A story can be sexy and amusing at the same time. If I can do it, anybody can.
>>724842042I'm very excited for the future of video gen coom but it's just not quite there yet
>>724851767Yeah that's pretty much me in spades, if I want a lewd and degenerate card I can just make it myself and add the fetishes I want top of it.I do want to make an standard jrpg party rp with a group chat but by the time I feel like doing that I drift back to the degeneracy instead.
>>724837640The idea of paying for porn us anathema to me, yet I also don't want to waste time with the free options. When the free options get as good as Opus 2(So never), then I'll bother with it again.
>>724859564Gemini
>do a touhou scenario based around hakurei shrine>end up teaming up with Marisa to steal the Yakumos' sake>They're not even part of the card scenario but it portrays Yukari, Ran, and Chen all accurately and outlines a huge danmaku fight with like 8 participantsBased Deepseek chinks
>>724837640I hate that the longer the story gets the more expensive the replies getI have to make clone characters that carry over the story in their bios and start a new chat, its annoying>lower the context sizeI refuse
>>724853229https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNr7mfFZu8
Ive been using Deepseek and it is good so far. Are there other good models, or better ones, for gooning?
>>724859967why does it get so expensive if the context is longer?do they charge per context size too?
>>724860086better ones are 100 times more expensive per gen, if you have the moola go for it and want to spend hundred sof dollars
>find a new card that looks interesting>spend a while deslopping and customizing it>finally get to chatting and lose interest within 20 messages>go back to scrounging the chub dumpster pile for something newthese days i think i'm spending more time writing cards and imagining stories than i do actually chatting anymore
>>724860132The longer the chat goes for the more info you are sending so the more it has to work so the more expensive it gets, you can limit this by making the context size small but if you do that it will forget everything past a certain point that you cant really control and god its that annoying, my context size is huge meaning I never reach the cap of how much context Im sendint so eventually it ballloons out of proportion and yesterday I ran out of funds in the middle of a long ass storyline that I love, it annoyed me to no endA remedy Im trying now is to make it produce summaries every so often then copy paste past its forgetful line (its a dotted yellow line that will appear on the chat where everything above it it no longer remembers) but it also means lowering the context size
>>724860263you can always go back to your old reliable cards and do things differently
>>724860316so im guessing the tokens count for the fees charges balloons after 32k context, and it's per replyi can imagine if each reply is something like 100k context that you can rack up 50 cent every reply, adding up real fast
>>724860534Yes and I didnt realize it and was genning like it was still half a cent per reply meaning I always make it gen 6-8 replies until I find what I like, making small adjustments to my last message as I see fit in between replies, thats the most fun way to "play" ST IMO but I didnt pay attention and my $10 that I usually use for the month evaporated and I had to put another 10 and lower the context a lot and make a new character that reflected the state of the storyline so far.
>>724845230Ive never done that, to me the hot part is in the real time genning and thinking in real time ideas and what to say etc, going back to logs make me feel nothing, Id rather read a porn story with better writing. But thats just me.
>>724860654>I always make it gen 6-8 replies until I find what I like,that's a heavy sign that your shit is configured bad and you're not giving enough effort into setting the table before you eat your (assumedly public chubslop) cards on it configure your shit, trim your fat, create (with the help of your choice of API) a specialized editorial bot that will trim down and create efficiency of any bloated slopcards you want to runyou are being purposely wasteful and making complaint of it, fix your shit
>>724861175I dont understand how thats related. I like being vague and seeing what the AI comes up with, thats like the whole point.
>>724861319Also I literally never use example dialogues, like at all
>>724861319>I dont understand how thats related.token costsif you're going to turn your LLM into a glorified roulette wheel, you might as well make it an efficient one if you're going to bother about expenses from it
>>724861531You are probably correct that I could set some more guardrails for efficiency but I usually do get what I want more or less in its replies, Im just very autistic with small details and like to redo it a few times.
>>724861617consider CYOA/stat tracker or both if you go for longer narratives - with a stat tracker to note debuffs/changes/histories similar to a CoC tracker, you can cut your context window down to like ~8k without your LLM hallucinating that you're suddenly in africa or whatever (because the stat tracker shows post-by-post where you are, what you've been doing and where/what you're current doing, it effectively brute-forces a bit of memory into the system)
>>724862154Didnt know about those ideas so thanks Ill look into it, a couple chats I did ask it to provide possible things for me to do at the end of every reply but thats about it, Ive just been slowly figuring shit out by myself.
>>724862154What model is that?
>>724862504the butterfly is gemini, iirc
>>724862154>being dependent on AI's ideas to play
I wish I wasn't such a fucking schizo. The idea that someone might read by dumb fantasies turns me off but local models SUCKS.
>>724862590Oh hush, if youve trawled through the janitor leaks, you would see the shittiest most absolute doggy doo writing and dumb shit fantasies people do. Whatever cringe you are writing, some jeet who barely understands english is doing is twice as bad
>>724862590Some of the shit from the AI Dungeon leaks make me laugh to this day.
>>724837640>Niggers BRAGGING how they have measly 2k tokens on goy AI>Me having 100k+ tokens on local ai... For each chat if I wantWe are not the same
>>724862786You can't have schizo fun with models designed to run PR agencies.
>>724860034Jesus, didn't know Hong Kong was this based(Holy shit this new captcha is aids)
>>724862852>>724862590so which one is it
>>724838337Works perfectly fine on my machine bro
>>724863571Both. Local is only good if you can afford it.
>>724863571They can have all the tokens you want, but the quality is lower than big LLM(tm) models
>DGX spark is $4k>have to use it a lot to recoup the cost vs using online AI>but it can do lewd image and video gen
>>724863897Interesting so they are now selling things like that? I had no idea
>>724864425it has 128 gb of vram, just big enough for some of the larger modelsnvidia also supporting it with its latest blackwell drivers and cuda toolset it's the best out of the box local LLM machine
Where do you get cards and lorebooks for ST?
>>724864635>just big enough for some of the larger modelslol no.It's slow as hell since it has really crappy memory bandwidth.The only advantage it has is CUDA support, but for LLMs specifically, that barely matters.You are better off going after the Ryzen APU or getting, and I don't believe I'm recommending this shit, a fucking mac.
>>724864645Usually chub but I started just making my own.
>>724864635Well that's promising. Nvidia's 40GB ones are $4-10k. I was expecting their monopoly to kill advances for years. RAM to do the largest models would cost a similar amount and require special motherboards. I couldn't get an answer from anyone who had tried it for how fast responses were.I'm just using a 24GB model in RAM for now. It outputs half or less the speed of reading but it is still better than using an 8GB in vram.
>>724838471skill issue
>>724837784>character card just has grues show up if it is ever dark
>>724842042>text vs imageare you serious?
>>724838271https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Rocinante-12B-v1.1-GGUF
>>724842042Text is unironically hotter
>>724838350All that is really needed is for the UI to have an intelligent way of auto swapping in cards. Then you could have cards for encounter types. You could already do this manually or try doing lorebooks.
>>724842042>non interactive videosDont see the point honestly
>>724865565>future of AI porn>you type your response, and it happens in video, fully voicedno one will ever leave their rooms
>>724839715Just ask the AI to output a character template with as many traits as possible, ask for sexual traits specifically. Speech pattern makes a big difference if you are sick of 'AI'isms'. Ask AI to fill out the template for whoever you want.If you want to save on tokens you can cut out anything you don't want to change because the AI already knows this information. Relationship status is the obvious thing to change. It's better to have verbosity though as it is the information that gets priority.I still think it is better to use RAM so you can have 20-40,000 context and not worry about card size.
>>724865848>no one will ever leave their roomsthat will be the point, this leads to the easy culling of humanity by the psychotic rich
>>724865848Even then it wouldnt dethrone text since video cannot convey things as deeply as text. A real time AI character in your computer battle network style that can look like anything and produce anything in real time would be the final coffinBut at that point maybe you also want VRThe end game is the holodeck in any case
>>724837640
>>724866186And then the rich die because no one will maintain the robots that make the food
>>724866323SSSSHHHHH! SHH! SHUT UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP! DON'T REVEAL THE ACTUAL FUTURE AND OUTCOME!
>>724866323You really think they wouldn't keep a few slaves in their basements to maintain their machines? Or better yet get robots to train other robota to do it.
The thread smelled of ozone and something uniquely /v/. My knuckles turned white as the comments in the thread turned to ash on my tongue.
>>724842042I've got a 5070ti so with video I can wait half a day to see some generic tits flop about in a retarded fashion or I can have it spit out an entire novel in 10 seconds.
>>724866486Shut up Gemini.
>>724862786PAPI CHULO
>>724866486I miss the old AI Dungeon days>You hear a noise from behind you>Suddenly, men wearing black clothes appear>A knife presses against your backj>"We're taking you to see Lord Grey"
>>724862154Trackers need to be at the top to avoid being trimmed when it hits response length.
>>724862154>CYOA/stat trackerHow did you set it up?
https://chub.ai/characters/Kazero/deadman-s-house-670ce8117085Rate my Gemini slop
https://chub.ai/characters/Kazero/deadman-s-house-670ce8117085Tryyyyy
>>724862154I like this extra stuff but I wish it was easier to set up and edit. A while back I had some scripts running which would add a peanut gallery of premade characters who would interject while I was gooning and break the fourth wall and comment on what was happening in realtime and it was very cool but I lost it all and can remember the guide I followed to set it up (It was originally pony shit made by a brony and I had to replace all the horses with better characters)
I play a paid clone of it where I can shuffle which backend generates the reply for me and I like it.>>724837784>the posts I've seen people are more than not mentally retarded and merely post a sentence or two at best while the ai carries their ass through erpOkay but with a lot of character cards this is definitely the point, too, just lazily be yourself and let it take you for a ride.
>>724866564Qrd?
My story from the first few AI Dungeon threads got drawfagged and I cherish it. Shame about the mormon bucket leak, I wouldn't have purged everything otherwise.
What is the reason that sometimes it ignores the last input I wrote and it generates a reply to something I inputted 5 or 6 replies ago?
>>724867279>AID implements a filter system to trigger when NSFW text was detected>They do this so poorly that even words like Melon trigger the filter>To rectify this there was a chance that when a user triggered the filter that it would be flagged for manual review to see if it was a false positive or not>AID did not have enough staff to properly review stories so they hired a third party company>Third party company ends up leaking a fair amount of storiesHilariously part of the reason NAI even exists is because AID pretty much thoroughly invaded both their user's privacy and made their own service useless, at that time, due to the insane censorship.
>>724867446Just a general problem with LLMs, especially the longer they go on for, they get fixated on random things and start hallucinating.
I still don't understand how presets work, I'm combing through Chub and the selection seems pretty sparse and dubious in terms of quality.Am I supposed to be picking one for my model, my bot, or my API?
>>724838471Literal skill issue. At the very least Claude can be made to be as hardcore as you want with the right jb.
>>724867279>AI Dungeon is run by mormons>One day they decide to start policing user chats for forbidden content>They end up outsourcing out moderation to pajeets on fiverr>This predictably leaks out>A taskup anon posts a bunch of chats that he's supposed to moderate>hilarity ensures
>>724867657>especially the longer they go on forMakes sense, it happened in a story I was very deep in. Fixed it by just regenning a few times until it remembered its supposed to react to the latest input.also sometimes they would generate the same response word for word when I wanted something different and its hard to get them out of their autistic repetition
>>724867617>Hilariously part of the reason NAI even existsAstroturfing 4chan is definitely worse than everything AID did. Just look at /hdg/.
>>724845295Here's the preview.https://mega.nz/folder/FWh3Wbga#v9Lk6B0RCjMmzgDcfbWXdg/folder/tKo0GQIKReport if it works or not.
>>724867963/hdg/ is in the state it is in because local image generation in their niche has been at a stand still for over a year now. There is no new models and anyone trying to do something is an absolute retard like the guy who made Pony and then put out an absolutely shit V7.
>>724838471>>realize, yet again, that no model since AI Dungeon actually fucking wants you dead and can actually threaten you in a way that mattersIf you can't [System note: generate events with realistically arduous challenges not tipped in player's favor, with consistent predictable consequences and chances of success and failure, never behaving like an overly helpful or convenient AI chatbot] or so your way out of that then prompter skill issue.The brains of the backend can always just not work and your instructions not work but a lot of times when it's doing a thing you don't want it to, it's because it's following some instructions and lacks ones to do what you instead wish it would do.
>>724868216>they did this to themselves, don't blame NovelAIUhm... No? I will blame NovelAI. I don't care if that makes you shit your pants, shill.
Which version of Gemini do people use for cooming? There's like 25 different ones
>>724859613I tried it once and it wasn't as good for me, though maybe that was a JB issue.
whats a good GGUF(?) to use with a 9070xt?
>>724868526>AMDLmao, sorry buddy you're shit out of luck with that one.
>>724867793>>724867617Hory shit, out of everyone who could have made (by accident) one of the best tools ever to coom, it had the magic underwear people
>>724851546>>724851552>>724853381Shouldn't expect more from /v/, but man. You know that this isn't the standard output of the model and that you can simply define the style of replies, right? You can't be this clueless if you use something like ST, right?
>>724868393Maybe you should go fuck yourself Brumaire
>>724868216>go to /ddg/, posters there are completely normal, they gen and help each other>go to /hdg/, fucking hellhole, worse than /aicg/Yeah, something tells me that the lack of new models isn't the main problem here
>>724868457I'm a basic bitch free API fag on 2.5 flash because pro gets limited after like 10 messages. It's good enough for me but the AI has some subject biases it tends to lean towards. Dunno about the paid stuff.
>>724869006It's schizophrenia at this point. I swapped to another general which I won't name but people there still mostly just post their gens, share info and help others out.
>>724868786>outs himself as a NAI shillLike if anyone else would care about deflecting blame away from NovelAI.I respect AI Dungeon more just for the fact that they leave 4chan alone.NAI tries to justify their permanent presence by presenting themselves as savior of the hobby, or as 4chan culture. They're just scamming people and spamming 4chan.
>>724869189Stop using flash retard. I use pro. There's a 50 message per day limit on API, but the AI studio itself is unlimited and uncensored if you jb it enough
>>724860263Writing a card when you're horny is a gift for your future self even when you first initially lose interest. That same mood is gonna hit you later on and then you have a nice custom-made almost-finished card just for it. Then, after testing, re-adjusting and re-testing it for a bit, you could share it.Don't give up on writing cards even if it is that kind of business.
>>724869650For some reason I can't get the same results on AI studio, the writing's a lot more stiff and boring and it never wants to write 5 detailed paragraphs about benis in bagina like it does on ST. I tried flash too so it's not a pro problem, maybe it's my jb? You got a good one I can use?
>>724869386Whatever you say Brumaire. Post that chart again, why don't you?
How do I jailbreak gemini in sillytavern?
So what's the deal with the /vg/ /g/ aicg split?
le funne
>>724870469>do a roleplay based around piss>the girl barely needs any encouragement to start crying and raving about being a urinal and smegma deposit with a "toilet womb"it's wild how sometimes this shit works so good you wonder if magic isn't coming back to the world
>>724870438A Discord of botmakers wanted a thread about themselves. Have you tried reading one of the threads before asking?
>>724837640AI is a funny novelty toy but it won't ever replace real video games.Not even the text based patreon meme games.
AI bots have no gameplay. No stats, no builds, no equipment, no consumables, no enemies, no boss battles etc. Zero tactic involved.
>>724870645Interesting.
>>724870669I lurk both threads. The same bots get posted on both threads. /vg/ has more namefagging, but it's /vg/ so it's expected.
>>724870835Why would it need to replace anything? I can just enjoy both.
>>724871119Okay, so go back and stay there.
>>724870645>>724871016lmao i posted the wrong image, or rather part of the full image. it is scary how quickly this shit got good though, i still remember how ignorant i was of this facet of technology in 2023.
>>724871016This could be us anon
I can't stop thinking about the time some girl, completely unprompted, said my character's nickname (Dude) sounds like 'doodoo', and proceeded to call him Mr. Doodoo for the rest of the story.
>>724873057They have more than once made fun of my characters named anon by identifying it stands for anonymous and saying that its the lamest name possible to give a child
>>724873057Every single model i've tried just absolutely fails at one character name I use. I don't understand how it fails because its literally written in the character card, just copy and paste it.It starts out normal, WakasagihimeThen it slips sometimes, then gets worse, until it sounds like someone drowning while trying to say it.Wakasagige, Wakasagame, Wakasigihme, Wagagammihime, Wakisagime, Wakgugamme even had one time where it just Waaaaa'd at me like it turned into fucking Wario.
>>724838457>MINECRAFT IS NOT A GAMEalso it ends when I cum
>>724874805>even had one time where it just Waaaaa'd at me like it turned into fucking Wario.Alright that's pretty funny.
>get bored of roleplaying >go gen some 1girl standing in sd>gen some really hot bitch>make a card for her in silly tavern>get back to roleplaying Who else slopmaxxes?
>>724870438one's overtaken by shitposters
>Sit down for a coom session, load up the card>Set the scene, don't want it to go too fast>End up getting a tour of her house, learn the whole layout, get a lot of colorful descriptions of the inside and out>End up cooking a nice meal for her, chat about memories at the table, end up having dessert as well>End up snuggling on a couch watching a movie that's real but I've never seen it, when she asks me my thoughts afterward I have to look at a wiki>Four hours have passed>>>724873057My name is one letter away from a fairly famous one so when the model decides to be cheeky and add said extra letter to it to avoid repetition, I have to fix it quickly otherwise characters start behaving like I'm straight out of the Bible
>>724871794Your user name and pic made me laugh pretty hard for some reason
>>724870438It's been a while, but from what I remember, /g/ had a bunch of discord trannies and shitposters trying to kill any and all discussion and spite any open proxies so the only option was to go through the discord server circlejerks. Some anon thought /vg/ would be better, and it was for a while (no clue how it is now).
>>724875142People use names other than Anon? I feel like I would die of self-cringe if I had bots use my real name.
>>724875096>write a card for sillytavern>the character is an AI promptsmith>promptsmith provides me with a prompt for SD>gen image in SD>ask promptsmith to give backstory and scenario
>>724875370>COOM DOOM cycle>Reign of the locustsThe CAI era was more fun
Who the fuck are locusts?
>>724838457>games have a beginning and endmovieslop isn't a game
>>724875409I've been using a fake name for so long I started to react to it when I hear it outside chatbots.
>>724875646The roving swarm of users who would drain public keys and proxies
i never got the point of chat styled erp, i just enjoy doing it in a story form, and novelai still has the best ui for that and the model is good enough
>>724876138Kill yourself
>>724875409Sillytavern has personas, one of them is me (but cool) and the rest are charactersI use local so I don't worry about my own name being used, but I still cringe about other shit because I write a lot
>>724876138I like Mikupad, it's simple and straightforward.
>>724876305i tried it a while ago, maybe it has gotten better since. i don't wanna have to deal with proxies and shit anyway and local models aren't good enough
>>724876138I'm kind of glad that they have seemingly given up on making their own text models and instead are just going back to fine tuning.
>>724876459i think the models they provide have been good historically, i really see no problem with them
>>724876459Yeah, they're just not big enough to train a model of that size.
>>724861175are you the one who made a bot to help deslop stuff or something from a while back?
>>724876369Local models aren't really too much worse than their online variants whenever you're using a 50xx card.As soon as Nvidia stops fucking about with piss tiny VRAM then the sky will be the limit.
>>724875370>Some anonWhy are you so terrified of mentioning the word botmaker?
>>724876459>are just going back to fine tuningSo why are you saying this now when Erato was made over a year ago?
>>7248682164chan is a retarded place to post AI images as it strips out the prompt information that is appended making them useless.
>>724837640The few days I had access to Gemini 3 were the best goons I've ever had. Too bad they're going to lobotomize it for launch.
>>7248765653060, but speed is also an issue, i don't wanna have to wait 30+ seconds for a response
>>724876369>i don't wanna have to deal with proxies and shit anyway and local models aren't good enoughSo stop paying for a subscription for a local model and use OpenRouter, shill.
>>724877003what's their privacy policy? and the big model providers are very clear on that they store prompts
>>724874805Because that name is words. It doesn't differentiate languages, it knows different ones. You can reply in whatever language you want or mix them.
>>724876517The problem was just the amount of time between models. Text gen was moving so fast at that point that by the time they had put out a "new" model it was still outdated compared to what was going on elsewhere.
>>724877202true. i never knew what other models were doing so i guess i was (still is) happy enough with the models they provide
>>724877069>what's their privacy policy?Why is NovelAI selling my data?
>>724877319where are these settings? i don't see them on my account
>>724877069>and the big model providers are very clear on that they store prompts
>>724877418
>>724877421so openrouter has a special connection to claude where they don't store anything? very interesting
>>724877319Nobody cares, Brumaire
>>724877472oh so it's the same cookie prompt as on literally any other site in existence that you visit
for me it's common sense modification scenariosI could cum for all eternity
>>724877729Meaning what
>>724877729I'm the opposite. When it's thought of as "normal", it's not exciting anymore.
>>724877836Exactly.
>>724877606>don't pay attention about the fact we ask you for permission to sell your data>also don't pay attention to all the third party scripts we include
>>724877901i wonder if they changed that cookie popup because it doesn't say the same things for me
>>724875409Personally I have a self-insert name I use for vidya, some usernames, now chatbots. It's enough that I'm like the other anon and react to it in other contexts at times, but there's still a degree of separation from literally me that it removes the cringeBot referring to me by my self-insert name? Yeah I get it because they're referring to my self-insert. Bot referring to me by MY name? Now they're just talking to the nasty ass bitch behind the screen and that's weird.
It easily gets boring if things aren't well-detailed.t. spent several hundred hours on it already. And no i'm not talking about porn.
>>724862786nurse help me
>>724877319>Reject allThat was hard.
>>724877959Don't bother arguing with schizos
>>724878092I cant imagine using it for non porn, the prose is so poor.
>>724877901that's the entire point, to harvest your data to sell to other companies, and then use it to train AI to sell your own self and content back to younobody cares about AI's promise, they care about stealing huge quantities of data to sell
>>724877901oh noooo now they'll know I fap to loli scat anyways
>>724878159makes sense, i've seen this person post before i'm pretty sure, a single anon who posts about shills
no one is going to sit and read any of this crap and much less trace it back to you, you have a higher chance of winning the lottery
>>724877959It says different things for different countries/states. The video is with a VPN set to California, I think.
I pay with crypto so I don't give a fuck even if they're actually reading my degenerate shit
>>724878237ai would be used to filter through all the sloppa and pattern match it
>>724878237>no one is going to sit and read any of this crapno one is, no, but an AI will. that's the point of a panopticon, it can program AI to become little snitches spying on everyone and telling the police when you should be killed for wrongthink
>>724878365>>724878368Still worthless, they will only find that everyone faps to everything and your data is buried under millions of pajeet logs, useless data.
>>724878171They know your name and address because you have to pay with a credit card to use it.Meanwhile, I can pay OpenRouter with crypto. I don't even need an e-mail address to login, I can just login with a random crypto wallet made for it. And you can do all that with Tor. And it's not tied to a single model. And I have the option to use it at full context. And OpenRouter doesn't try to take over threads on 4chan with shills.
>>724878538ah yes, buying crypto untraceable right
>>724838151What's up with the Ozone thing anyway?
>>724837784I still prefer quality erp with a real person. I've found that having too much control really ruins the experience for me.The only real issue is finding that quality erp partner.
>>724878627China
>>724876970>speed is also an issue,
No good ST threads on /v/ ever again thanks to some schizo shitting it up
>>724878472>they will only find that everyone faps to everythingand will use what they find to execute you for wrongthink
>>724878689not bad, haven't checked out any local models since early this year to be fair, and those sucked and were super slow
>>724878627The ball is in your court.
>>724878603Monero is untraceable. You can easily swap Bitcoin for Monero, and Monero for anything else.
>>724878779but how do you buy it to begin with, with money on your bank account for it to be untraceable
>>724878695For what it's worth, at least /aicg/ isn't overrun with shills. This general is a lost cause. The fact /v/ has more traffic attracts greedy, shameless people. Between NovelAI shills and the silly adaptations guy, I would rather have no thread at all.
>>724878725I already say nigger on a daily basis irl
>>724878739I used to prompt on a 3060 and jumping up two generations is exponentially faster.Hell I used to prompt on a 1060 when it took 3 minutes to generate ten words.
>>724878913maybe some day i'll get myself to buy a new gpu, they're still just too expensive for what i'd use them for
>>724878816That's the reason to swap the Bitcoin for Monero. The moment you're holding Monero, you're holding something that's not traceable back to you.
>>724878972Wait until they release a xx60 card with 24GB VRAM minumum or you're being robbed.
>>724878863>NovelAIshill>OpenRoutershill>C.aishill>any other proprietary model>shill>local modelbuy an ad
>>724879026oh okay, so you just have money going into bitcoin then into a black hole, wonder if my bank would like that lmao>>724879071as if that's ever gonna happen
>>724879092>meretard
i got the local version and all it did was consistently use the exact same replies, and do the thing where it spergs out and repeats a sentence repeats a sentence repeats a sentence repeats a sentence like this… not to mention it fucking breaks character even on the cloud ones. THIS shit is meant to steal jobs?
>sell AI service to anon>datamine>find worst shit in the files>somehow shows up on the dark web in a database with a 0.5btc price>bought by jeet scammer conglomerate>anon is now blackmailed
>>724879150>as if that's ever gonna happenTheir 8GB variants flopped BIGLY this time around, there's massive amounts of dead stock, even non-prompters know it's not enough, in two or three generations they'll wake up.
>>724879173>anon is now blackmailedno longer possible. you can just say it's AI generated. we are entering a nightmare world where no data can ever be trusted again unless you see it happen with your own eyes
>>724878695who's schizo?
>>724878538okay... and?oh nooo my loli scaaatwho gives a shit (no pun intended), fag
>>724879173Damn I hope they don't show my thirsty as fuck boss the AI prompted fanfic I genned of us boinking in the office.
>>724879173>but that was okay because novelai is based and 4chan culture>it's only bad if it happens to ai dungeon
>>724879262>text>credit card info>some kind of cryptographic proof(or the data would be worthless)These are all easy to get, if you sign the data with the corps private key for something important there is no doubt about the validity
NovelAI is not private? I don't care about privacy anymore!
>>724879261i doubt they're gonna drop prices though, budget cards are like 500€ now
>>7248794915060s are like 300 but like I said you get fucked on the VRAM, it's a downgrade from a 3060 even.
>>724878171I do that too actually
>>724867171>>724867046Good scenario. Vale needs to chill the out a bit though. I enjoyed brain fucking a cleric until cum leaked out of her eyeballs while her jiggling guts hung out of her
>>724879654which is especially overpriced for what you get, even 300 isn't budget
Still worse than colossal cave adventure
I'm forever amazed that the AI Dungeon guy is a schizo who constantly lurks 4chan. Fucker, you did this to yourself. Putting aside the data breach, you chose to censor your shit. That was a choice that you made, live with it.
>>724879173holy fuck not my shitty fucking factory job I'm so blackmailed!!!!!! what do you think? like we're all gonna be CEOs and it's a huge scandal? life expectancy in my city is like 46 years old. the people I work with have raped their kids and do blow on their breaks. I think me facefucking fictional AI high school student behind the gym bleachers is the least of the INTERNATIONAL WORLD MORAL POLICE's problems
>>724880182based mexican
>>724880182Based thirdie gooner
>>724880182>INTERNATIONAL WORLD MORAL POLICEno, you are exactly who they want to bully and kill, because you're an easy target who nobody will stand up for, so they can get off on hurting people for free because the AI told them you're a wrongthinkit's not about order or policing, it's about being allowed an excuse to kill with impunity while they allow kids to be raped and the blow to be snorted
Okay, time to write another isekai card, for real this time
>>7248376407/10 too many breaths hitching
>>724880435>>/x/
>>724878913>>724878689Is what a 3060 looks like if the model is actually in v-ram; ie an 8GB model. If it doesn't fit then it doesn't matter and you'll get like 1 word per second.
>>724880668SHE LOOKED AT HIM - I MEAN REALLY LOOKED AT HIM - AND THEN GORGE SPOOGIBOOGILY
>>724879173not gonna put my hands in the fire for this but they don't store that data on their server and I don't think they have any incentive to unless they're just lying and plan to ruin their business for datamining
>>724880674what? no. /x/ thinks this is all part of some grand plan with aliens and wizards and God. the reality is cruel, stupid people who like to hurt others, and they have a great excuse to start mass executions once the rabble gets too loud about famine and disease.
>>724880668something something conspiratorial whisper, something about digging crescent moons in her palms, something something gripping white knuckles
>>724880784>unless they're just lying and plan to ruin their business for dataminingding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
>>724880824Okay, /pol/ then. Go be a paranoid schizo somewhere else
>>724880435you genuinely might be schizo if you believe this. you still think you're special, really cute anon.
>>724880915okay brumaire, I think you've had enough. closing time.
>>724880892>>724880742Clankers can be annoying wiseasses. I block a string and it just paraphrases to "there was a hitch in her breath" or some shit like that
>>724880182Remember it costs $100,000 per year to imprison someone. They only want to arrest people they can make a huge propaganda piece on to keep the NPCs in line.
>>724880784The entire AI business is datamining. You are particularly retarded.
>>724842387you need to beat the medium courses now btwskillgod's claude might not last much longer either, his source finally added authorization to requests
>>724879654its hilarious that a 3060ti(8GB) still beats a 5060ti(8GB) in some games
I really hope you guys are running local models.
>>724881328peoplem denying this unsettles me, it's so obvious the point is to take people's data to train more AIs
>>724882019Im not and never will
>>724868783>why is this supposed to be good?>behold! My pile of shitYou are not special, anon. You are not some in-the-know genius that has secret knowledge or anything of the sort. The example is shit, with bad decisions on display, and the prose outside of that is identical to what you'd find in other models. That's why the example is getting clowned.
>>724882019Local models are pretty fucking shit tbqh
>>724882019I'd love to, but my hardware is a decade old.
>>724839573gimme the card
>>724882019Learning ST was bad enough I cant imagine what a headache it is to set that shit up, Im too old for this crap
>>724882019I did for about 2 years but now I wanna gen text and images at the same time and that's just not happening locally.
>>724837640I gave up on Silly Tavern when Claude banned my repository. Now I use exclusively use caveduck with gemini. I get a limited amount of generations per day but I can manage.
>>724881389It's the regular 3060 that has 12GB which is why it is better.
>>724882209Setting up KoboldAI to run a local model is actually very straight forward. Finding good local models for your hardware is more challenging.
>>724882019Too much of a headache, like I thought shit mixes were bad with Image gen models, but there is so many shitmixes with Text models that I cannot even bother.
>>724882510Alright next summer maybe, fuck.
>>724862590just stop being a vramletalso you're not a schizo you fucking retard. Local or Nothing.
>>>/mlp/42763682>I don't think whoever wrote it really grasped the pink elephant effect>Which checks out, since it's technically still a previewIt turns out that even writing a system prompt is too much for NovelAI.
Has anyone tried Everweave?How does something like this compare to that?
>>724875417I get that that's the endgoal for AI but really you might as well consign your brain to the matrix at this point.
>>724837640It needs endless tardwrangling.
>>724862590I'm the same, the very fact that I'm sending all my responses to a remote server that anyone could record and look at (tied to my real name and CC no less) is too uncomfy for me to enjoy it.I have a decent GPU so I just used local models until I got bored of AI. I'm sure I'd love cloud ones for a while but I think I'd get used to the patterns there too. Every time I've seen a screencap from omg amazing claude it's still slop. I think AI has a curse that makes you blind to how bad it is when it's personalized, because anyone else's AI outputs look like shit. The only exception was the old AID/CAI stuff which could be kinda funny.
>>724837640its neat
>>724837640>people pay money to ERP>with nobody>on a website that tracks their conversationsAnons... tell me you didn't fall for the oldest internet tn the book...
>>724883451>>on a website that tracks their conversationsretard....it's all client sideway to immediately show just how little you know about it.
I like SillyTavern and I like NovelAI and I like AI Roguelite!
>>724838887It's so fucking boring bros... I need the real thing
>>724883380I really need to tune my prompt so that thoughts are formatted separately than the action text. Tried a while back and got it confused with model thinking when CoT was new.
>>724883451>nigga posting joker pictures thinks he matters enough for anyone to careLmao
>>724883451track this*brrrraaaaapppp*
>>724883601>have spent a decade+ trying to get the ERP I want from people>it never, ever works>AI gives me everything I wantgo have the real thing, have fun when they cum 20% of the way in and close the chat on you
>>724883451I hope chutes enjoys my scatterbrained angst RP that is occasionally interrupted by egg laying porn
>>724883831>egg laying porntop fetish, AI does great with it
>>724883707How to tell everyone you are a homosexual.
>>724883831You are a man of culture and taste. May you go far.
Is there a brainlet guide to setup and making it not terrible?
>Swiping on bot response for 5 minutes straight>Get that one reply thats pure unfiltered kinoGod, I wish there was a thing you could do that when you get a response you like, you can rate it and be like "Do more of this"
>>724884767that's what gets me, is how often with a little patience and pushing it'll spit out the hottest shit you've ever read
>>724884767That's a thing, but only for training a model :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement_learning_from_human_feedback
>>724884767CAI had that....
>>724884767>starts to repeat bits of the reply a couple prompts later because you liked itIt's not perfect, but I'd rather let it give me kino on accident.
>>724884767>regenerating responsesYou didn't beat the game.
What do you guys have yours configured to and why?
>>724884767based
>>724840558>>724842235One of the cringiest things I ever had an LLM write with me was a "hurr durr this is Overwatch but I was a Talon who was taken in to spy on them and have sex with Tracer" and I ended with an actual story arc punctuated with porn. It was awful fun.Embrace the cringe, it enhances the lood.
>>724879173I highly doubt they're keeping the millions of terabytes of AI prompts of random users in english script. They use it for training and then throw it away.
>>724888430https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center>is designed to store data estimated to be on the order of exabytes or larger>its purpose is to support the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI), though its precise mission is classifiedAlso, it's just text.
>>724888430No one is throwing away potential training data at least until the AI bubble pops. Realistically never, since it might become valuable later.
Where do anons get your cards from
>>724886594Temperature 1.3. It is how probably the response you get is. In creative writing you do not want probable responses.Frequency penalty is PER WORD. It's not about repeating the same response. Increasing this is how you get ridiculous prose and nonsense because it can't repeat basic grammar. Can be fun but is more likely very fucking annoying.
>>724889408https://chub.ai/https://realm.risuai.net/https://jannyai.com/There will be people manipulating you into thinking that you're supposed to stick to 4chan bots, but that's just for the benefit of a couple of attention-whores and avatarfags. They desperately need that little pond-big fish effect, they can't stand out in the real world.The right thing to do is to spit on their faces and never give a botmaker any attention.
>>724882019every local model i've tried fiddling with on my GTX 1060 6GB is either too big to even work or so stupid that it just spits out cleverbot-level word mush. don't know if i'm just too stupid to make any of them work worth a damn or if 6GB of VRAM really is too little
>>724889408Ask the AI to make them.
>>724838457You can end the story with an AI, just come up with a proper one and don't continue the conversation.But yes, AI chats are not games, they lack gameplay.
>>724889759Honestly just pay like the $3-$10 a month for chutes. You get 300-2000 requests per day depending on the plan and with some fucking around in comfyui you can get image generation working with sillytavern as well. It's requests/day rather than a set price per token so no need to trim lorebooks
>>724889759Brother that card is a decade old
>>724889408I get an idea on the shitter and write it myself.
Is it best to download a preset or make your own?
>>724891745Make your own. The popular ones are pure bloat.
>>724891745It's best to download a preset. Just don't pretend that the models are unique enough that you can't reuse a preset with most of them. If they follow instructions, the preset works.
Do you guys have any good jailbreak prompts for gemini?
>>724889408if you don't make your own cards you're a cuck getting somebody else's sloppy seconds.sorry, i don't make the rules.
>>724893917/aicg/ called, they said they wanted their shitty bait back
>>724894017bait? no, i fully believe this. i make all of my own cards, always have and always will.sorry, but your waifu has been subjected to every form of sexual activity imaginable. my cards are pure.
If I'm being a cheap-ass, what's better, deepseek or gemini?
I spent a week playing as a little femboy who gets fucked by futa cock but now i feel burned outThe degeneracy doesn't do it for me anymore
>>724894210>hey this is bait>NOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT BAAAAIIITTTT>he says while posting the most obvious bait to ever be casted, so much so that even the dumbest fish in the sea wouldn't give 'er a biteYou can't fool me, buster.
>>724894251deepseek is horny as fuck
>>724886594Assuming your API is even accounting those (deepseek API does not) then those penalties are WAY too high. Anything above .20 is.
>>724894251Deepseek's much easier to do what you want and tokens are hella cheap, a few bucks will last you a long time.
>>724894317Sounds to me like it's time for some straight vanilla romance. With handholding.
