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EU5 made a very bold choice in bringing back the start date to 1337, considering that EU4 really hit it's stride in the 1500s and most players wouldn't play more than 150 years. This could be fine if the extra 100 years is filled with interesting content to keep the player engaged, but unfortunately this has not panned out. You'll find that the late medieval period has little going on, and worst of all the addition of hourly ticks in a 500 year game makes this boring period feel excruciating because of how much those extra ticks pad the game time. In the time that the average EU4 player would finish a campaign you will still be in the first 100 years of the game in the late medieval times. I was playing on fast speeds and after over 20 hours of playtime I was still in the Age of Renaissance.

In the age of discovery your options open up with better technology to allow you to do more. However if you've been playing the game remotely competently then the game is pretty much over because the AI cannot properly oppose you. The AI has no direction in terms of expansion with the removal of mission trees and the whole situation system does little to shake things up because they don't work properly or the AI doesn't know how to use them.

The game promises a lot of content but when you look closer at it you realize how shallow it is. Thousands of events it claims, but it's all just different versions of "-10 noble happiness, -7 stab, +30 gold, etc" You'll find that you're doing the same thing as most nations, and the concept of doing the same thing over again playing through 20+ hours of nothing just to have no competition when the game starts opening up is not appealing at all.

I played Austria for 20 hours and was unable to even deck a war because casus bellis are limited early on. 20 hours of just constructing buildings hoping something would change. I've had more fun watching grass grow.
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>>725073273
>Playing as Ottomans
>Conquering around Anatolia a bit
>Black Death hits
>Lose 1/5 of my country and it's going to take generations to recover manpower
What were they thinking?
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>>725073273
Wait for 50 DLCs it'll be good then
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Oh, I thought you were gonna say because 1337 is the website everyone will be downloading the game for free from.

Also, why do I hear in every single review "It's really good now, but I can't wait for--" I wish everyone wasn't so easily influenced into becoming retarded. Why is releasing an unfished game expected? Even if it weas finished why should I expect it to be updated. How about you just make a game and that's it. I don't care if it's Paradox or current year, doesn't change reality, stop making games live service projects. "If you buy this game you're buying into a at least 6 year project" ACTUAL WORDS from a review I saw. Mental illness.
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Just wait goy
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>>725073273
oh really because I thought that choice was uber leet
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>>725073684
This game was the ORIGINAL live service product, because they keep coming up with new ideas after it comes out. The game as it is has a lot, they just add more later
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>>725073745
>DLC announced at release
The absolute fucking state of this industry
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>>725073791
How about they don't add more, they release a game, then a few years later they release a sequel. How about that? That way you actually have a GAME. I guess that's the problem. I know this is the "Live Service" board, but I prefer computer games. Where you make a game and then people play it. Instead of "let's make 70 versions of the same game and keep changing things and then make it an utter mess that cannot be a single thing or ever preserved."

But I know you're already been taken in. Already fooled. It's already too late. People are already too stupid. Mmmm yesss expansions, updates consant updates mmmm, unfinished games mmm, microtransations too please mmmm.
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>>725073406
ask god
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>>725073898
paradox has been like this for a decade
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>the addition of hourly ticks
holy shit why did they do this?
hoi4 is ten years not FIVE HUNDRED
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>>725074230
have you ever played eu4?
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>>725074230
only combat and units ticks at 8-19

the rest of the game ticks once per day
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>>725074085
Paradox likely pioneered it
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>>725073406
Why didn't you expel the jews?
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>>725073406
I mean it took until 1453 for them to take Constantinople, just fuck around for another 100 years slowly taking Greece/Thrace and surrounding the city from both sides, it's a comfy ride.
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>>725073273
Terrible game
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>England sits around and does nothing, doesnt bother to take Wales, Scotland, or Ireland.
>Castile doesnt bother to form Spain
>Otto switches to orthodox

Did they play the game during QA?
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>>725073273
did any of Emperor's features get preserved in V at all or is this a CK3 thing of waiting years for the DLC?
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I can't get over the fugly 3d models
why the fuck would they add this shit into the game?
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>>725073273
I unironically just went back to Eu4 for a quick campaign as Granada. EU5 just seems way too bloated to fuck, numbers everywhere without any actual gameplay substance.
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>>725073273
>20 hours of just constructing buildings hoping something would change.
yep, that sounds like paradox
>crack
>sip
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>>725073273
I never enjoyed the latest Vicky 3, that felt like a fucking chore to play
Would I enjoy EU 5? I just want to conquer stuff and shit regardless of which nation I get to play as
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>>725076941
Really does need a grand exhibition mod to replace all the jeetslop and ck2 models
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>>725079742
No it's like vicky 3 but with even less conquering
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>>725079656
>>crack
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>>725073273
Paradox niggas be like "yoo this gameplay is fire"
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I think this game is too hard for me, I'll stick with stuff like stellaris and civ
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>>725080512
This looks pretty fun, yes. What game?
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>>725080512
Yes

>>725081458
Victoria 2
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This shits crashed on me like 3 times

So I try to play AUH instead but its not as interesting as EU5 right now
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>>725080512
I bought a new pc just because eu5 is like this
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>>725080512
>sets steel stockpile to max and clicks the button
What now?
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>>725081841
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>>725073273
EU5 is meant for people that like the buildup of an empire than just blobbing from the get-go
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>>725073745
They mixed up/are combining the Preclassic + Classic Great Temple of Cholula with the Postclassic one here

They were separate structures, not one structure iterated on for 1200 years, and were dedicated to different gods (Tlaloc/the Rain god for the former, only the latter was to Quetzalcoatl)
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>>725073745
I bought this and don't regret it
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>>725073745
>the Auld Alliance
Great. Scotland is my go to country whenever I come back to EU. I bet that shitty dlc either makes it too easy get the French on board to tank the English or introduces events that just completely fucks that possibility up.
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>>725073273
They should have added a 1399 bookmark
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>>725076937
The jews at Paradox have done the exact same thing in every game since EU3. What the fuck do you think?
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HOW DO I REMOVE THE JEWS
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Wish there was Shattered Empires so I could play France from zero to hero
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The start date shouldn't have been too far away from the start of colonization and global trade

1453 or 1444, some time just before the Byzantine Empire's end, marking a border between the end of the medieval period and the coming of the early modern period, was the sweet spot
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>>725076889
Of course not
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>>725091843
Nah fuck that I hate firearms and colonization
Give me earlier start dates
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>>725073406
Should have build hospitals instead of conquering.
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>>725081632
Check your cpu temp perhaps. Even when this game is PAUSED (eg in main menu..) it maxes my cpu cores and I have a shitty intel stock cooler and without limiting my max GHz a bit it would go to closer to 90 deg. Celsius.
Plus there's absolutely no reason for a strategy game to run 60+ fps. Limit it to 30.
Streamers have been detrimental to rerards in gaming.
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>>725073898
>plan to further develop the game past release
Are you new to grand strategy games?
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>>725073273
I just can't figure out how to play this game. 5000 hours in Eu4 and I'm paralyzed and quit without a year passing. It's so demoralizing.
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>>725073273
You can have your parliament form a cb for free without even a spy network.
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>>725092134
You are too used to EU4. Cursively reading everything is also a mistake. Slooowww doowwwnnn and set tooltip delay to 1-2 seconds, this will force you to stop and think slloowwly.
eg you're just used to getting your way and sort of coast out of habit and that's not good.
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>>725092370
Thank you bro, I'm doing it!
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>>725073406
>1/5
That's good. The bizzy 1/3rd of their pop and I steamrolled em.
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>>725073952
genuine braindead take
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>>725073273

Is Kingdom of Aragon a hard civ or am I just shit? I got BTFO’d by France within like 20 years.
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>>725092134
Breh you just you need to get in the mood to learn.
Automate all the shit you don't want to bother with and try to figure out how to play.
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>>725092134
Conquer lots of vassals, improve relations and then annex them for cores. Make sure not to ignore society page, go to it and recognize cultures to lower rebel support. Build roads to spread control from capital to settlements which improves your taxation gains. If it's overwhelming just slow down the timescale or automate shit like trade and production. Haven't played a gsg in years but I used to play eu4 a lot and whole eu5 is a lot different I think it's pretty fun and will likely be way better than eu4 in the future. That said I'm still learning and have put in only 10 or so hours.
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It's...pretty awesome. Feels like I'm playing a modded CK3/EU4. Game has amazing potential. Keen for the GoT mod.
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>>725079564
>numbers everywhere without any actual gameplay substance
goncerning
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>>725092787
The base of the game is fantastic. If this gets half the dlc quantity of EU IV then it'll be the GOAT.
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>>725073273
Got claim the throne cb on the naples as byz
In the end after 4 year long siege of their capital and multiple loans the game doesn’t let me subjugate them through the peace deal, I can’t even attempt to as there is no such option in the peace deal selection
Thanks paradox
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>>725080512
dem fuckin' POPs man
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I am actually enjoying it more than EU4 atm. Trading, laws and research are much more interesting. The only weird thing so far is the diplomatic penalty. If you have 1 (ONE) alliance and one fieldom, you are usually above diplomatic capacity in the first 100 years.
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It's really good. I am shocked.
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Hmmm...should I wait for it to get seasoned or do I eat it raw?
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Man you really gotta blob like a retard to keep up with the balkans as the turk.
I thought the smart thing to do would be to gobble the other beyliks to get more primary culture land for the control boost but nah.
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>>725073952
>>725073745
>>725073684
>>725073273
Eu4 troons lost
Chuds won
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>>725073745
>We're releasing the game and for just 90 goybux you can Beta-Test for us until December next year.
I hope the crash comes soon and hard.
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>>725095024
Manasissies lost
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>>725095047
Everyone lost. Nobody won.
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>>725095103
Westfalen
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>>725073684
Because it isn't unfinished. You just can't release a new game built from the ground up around new systems that ALSO has as much content as the old game that's had content piled on for the past fucking 12 years.
>every single new game needs a superset of the old game's content
Literal retard shit for the dumbest of faggots. This mindset alone has caused more damage to videogames than almost anything else, and is a huge part of why service game bullshit is so common.
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>>725095138
Uh huh. Vomit out some more of your retarded thoughts I need a quick laugh.
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>>725095173
Sorry, but I don't keep engaging with retards that can't even summon up a token pathetic argument.
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>army randomly refuses to move
bug or am I retarded?
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>>725095208
LOL cute save dumbass
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>>725074230
It's to make combat realistic. Combat shouldn't take days and adding hourly ticks removes the unrealistic reinforcement juggling that EU4 had, since battles took months there. Playing on speed 4 is almost the same speed as EU4 speed 4, at least for me.
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>>725095329
Pointing out that you said nothing is not a "save"
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>>725095357
Pointing out that you're retarded is an argument kiddo.
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>>725095394
False
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>>725095261
Are you on a enemy fort's zone of control? If so, walk the same route out. Are you in mountains during winter? Too bad, your army is stuck there. Maybe don't put your army in mountains during winter.
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>>725095421
Nuh uh.
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>>725073273
>worst of all the addition of hourly ticks
>I love land battles that take weeks to finish
hourly ticks are a necessity
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Why is it only brown third world era with toasters and trannies who seethe at the glory of EU5? Runs great on my machine. Bubonic plague go brrrr
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>>725095873
kys
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>>725095873
The specs of your machine?
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>>725095915
Lol keep the seethe rolling tranny
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Spent the day playing as Milan. I fucked up though, should have abused the Ghibli casus belli and subjugated as much land as possible. Because 30 or so years in the HRE passed that stupid law that forbids internal wars without valid CB. No fun allowed.
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>>725094657
Can't believe idolatry improves stability
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>>725095873
Post your runtime reddit-kun:)
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Korea, Sweden, Hungary seem to be super easy to learn stuff. No real enemies, pretty big, leaves you all the choices and actually has money.
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>>725096005
That's not what idolatry is. Do you think the church is heretical because it recognises saints, too?
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>>725096264
Yes, and I'm going to nail all the reasons why to this door.
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>>725096118
>>725095915
I'm trans btw
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>start game as holland
>smallpox outta nowhere two months in -30k pops for me millions dead across europe
>hundred years war starts
>england fucks up the food supply and i get two migration events due to starvation -20k pops
>literally 25% of my total population gone before the game even reaches 1340
johan i kneel...
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>>725096375
you aren't trans, you're retarded and need to kys promptly for the betterment of the human race
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>>725096375
Well yeah you're defending dogshit products .
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>>725096264
Do you "devote" yourself to saints?
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I would play these games if they had actual battles like in the Total War games or something
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>>725096485
>>725096480
Eu4 lost
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>>725096587
So did your parents for having you.
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>>725096547
there's a mod for crusader kings 3 that starts mount and blade warband so every battle you fight can be a real-time battle
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>>725073406
It might be disappointing from the gameplay perspective but it was a cataclysmic event that defined the late middle-ages.
How would you improve it?
More flavor events?
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>>725073273
Is there continuity between eu I-IV, like can you import saves?
If not, where's the difference between IV and V then? Same time period means same shit happens again, doesn't it?
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>>725096654
Cope manaslop shit eater
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>>725091981
NTA but why play an EU game then? The entire point of the game is to model the age of discovery > napoleonic era. Why not go play CK?
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>>725097259
Because CK is too easy
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is it good?
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>>725097325
Yes. Some dedicated tranny is trying to gaslight these threads by same fagging because it's not his mana dogshit eu4. It's vicky2 levels. Johan decided he wanted to make actual gsg again and not normiecore MP dogshit. Expect a lot of seething
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>>725073273
anyone tried to creampie those cosmetic dlcs? one of those is marked as not owned for me and stuff
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>>725097951
Do the quiz in the main menu and you unlock it for free
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>>725073273
god the HRE is fucking KINO.... the most soulful place in history...
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>>725098205
U V H
V
H
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>>725098157
oh I'm fucking dumb, didn't see take the quiz button and thought the quiz is just a youtube video
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>>725073273
>that germany
what the fuck is wrong with the krauts?
no wonder they have the worst war record on the planet.
what the fuck even is this.
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>>725096547
>>725096772
Just play Empire Total War, faggots, its one of the best Total War games ever made, too.
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>>725097380
Most dedicated resident Paradicks shill
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>>725098325
do you know your rules? did you ever spoken with them? they decide over you and don't even know or care about you. the HRE is how ideal states should be. laws for the people who know each other, ruled by someone you know
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>>725098508
>rules
rulers
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>>725098325
German GODS were Faustian Individualists until Prussian autism, while other KEK nations yearned to huddle together like SHEEPS getting ruled by some GIGAKEK the DEUTSCHER MEISTER MENSCH would be Baron of his 50m2 and tax every nigger crossing his border. Bitch bois like you wouldnt get it...
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>>725073406
>Lose 1/5 of my country
>as opposed to the real thing that killed 1/3 of the population
you got off lightly, and yes, it's going to take generations to recover manpower, just like it took in real life, that's the whole point of the black death plague
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>>725098508
>>725098582
and in real life, HRE spent most of its existence fighting civil wars with itself, mostly religious utter bullshit, and if a foreign country attacked them, they couldnt defend themselves and relied on outside support to bail them out.

i remember reading history of the HRE a couple years ago in college and it was a completely retarded rollercoaster.
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>>725096264
The Bible has a clear definition of what a saint is, anon. You using a definition that goes against that as a defense for something else you shouldn't be doing is funny.
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Redpill me on Eastern history
Didn't Japan rape itself for ages
And China was getting gangbanged by the entire world
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>>725098404
awesome naval battles, too.
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>>725098630
>it was a completely retarded rollercoaster.
as I said KINO of the highest order
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>>725098681
you got it pretty much right, yeah.
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>>725098410
You lost :)
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>>725098717
it was anti-kino of the highest order.
>the whole continent is busy colonising the entire world or fighting hordes of asiatic or brown savages
>the germans are split into 1000 meme states that do nothing but punch itself in the dick

the britsh, now THAT is a good fuckin' read.
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>>725092787
Isn't CK more suited for that
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>>725098928
>the britsh, now THAT is a good fuckin' read.
>getting raped for centuries and genetically replaced by invaders
ye, really fun
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>>725092134
Automate trade and production methods,
Focus on crown power as early as possible, slowly go through the estates, read through laws you can change and the different types of buildings (you can sort by pop which works in it) some of the buildings you can build only once and give really strong buffs
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>>725099214
Without that we wouldn't have this
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>>725099214
>getting raped for centuries and genetically replaced by invaders
thats literally german history.
>the british
were dominating the entire world for most of the last 1,000 years, and is still dominating - we all speak english here, and anglo culture rules the world.
so yeah.
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I have a French surname.
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Fuuck I just made a guy a vassal in peace and now it raped my 'diplomatic capacity' wtf I should have made him a fiefdom
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>>725099325
>were dominating the entire world for most of the last 1,000 years
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>>725099368
my condolences
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Is there a patch today or nah?
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>>725099895
of course, are you implying we were/are not?
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>>725100047
>we were/are not?
>britoid overvaluing his skewed perception of existence
fact, France, Spain, Germany, Italy all had a bigger impact on world history in science, culture, technology, you name it
>but but america....
don't need to deflect from your incompetence by referring to the colony composed of the best of the best of European stock that BTFO you so hard, you never recovered
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>>725099214
>>725099895
Imagine being Russian. Hahahaaha just imagine being so cucked and all you can do is seethe about bongs online.
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I guess it's off topic, but people kept telling me "you'll be fine for years with 32gb ram" and now I see this has it recommended. I guess I better upgrade, the futureproofers were right.
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>play France
>join crusade against Egypt
>25k troops ready to go
>mfw I forgot I'm not in ck3 and actually need a navy to transport troops
>literally no way for me to contribute to the war and building a navy will take years
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>>725099325
>gets btfo'ed on the continent
>resorts to "civilise" browns around the world to cope
>WE WUZ RULERS OF THE WORLD
kek
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Unused diplomatic power should funnel into capacity >:(
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>>725100156
greeks, romans, french, spanish and british literally created the world we live in, while the germans were busy the last 1,000 years to fuck it all up and everybody else had to do damage control after the germans lost another war, again, and again, and again.
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>>725100281
>yes the british colonised most of the world and brought civilisation while the germans were doing fuck-all or just plain sabotage
thats very cool, thanks for agreeing how awesome the british are.
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>>725100307
different peoples are an illusion, all humans are just a river that ebbs and swells and twists and turns, but all from the same source, and every part of it led to where it is now. Namaste.
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SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS
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>>725099325
>1,000 years
Nigga read a history book. Britain was a nothingburger until it got its greedy little hands on India for unlimited money cheat.
And English became the lingua franca thanks to the US, not bongs lol
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What country should I play first?
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>>725100352
>the british colonised most of the world and brought civilisation
>implying it's a good thing
>implying the portuguese and the spanish aren't guilty of this either
in any case, we have empyrical evidence that if you reach a new place and it's settled, raze it down to the ground, burn everything and start from scratch
and don't leave, this is the most crucial step
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So this is CK3 for actual autistics and without all the fun of medieval Sims?
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For me, it's declaring France, Britain and spain as my rivals on day 1. They WILL submit to golden bullcock
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How do I beat bigger nations early on if all I do is levy troops instead of building an army?
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>>725100674
Yes
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>>725100501
>Nigga read a history book.
ok im reading it right now.
>Britain was a nothingburger until it got its greedy little hands on India for unlimited money cheat.
not really no, what you're thinking of are the Dutch.
>>725100650
>implying colonisation is a good thing
its not a good thing, its a GREAT thing.

nothing more awesome than reclaiming land from retarded non-white savages and building civilisation in that place.

BONUS KEK:
>british colonisation is literally the best thing that happened to india and all those other savage nations
thats how we roll.
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>>725100891
fookin' based.
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>>725081632
i've had a couple of crashes with the fitgirl version so far
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>>725100570
just play the one you want to, even though its just launch it seems like they put a lot of effort into non-western countries.
this shit is so cool
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>>725099806
what? a single allience already almost fills up your capacity? is that normal in this game?
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>>725100482
ARGHH THE JOOS WERE BEHIND THIS, THE JOOS DID THIS
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>>725100997
Cost depends on ratio. If you, a tiny OPM with fuck all economy and soldiers gets spain as an ally, it will cost you a lot more capacity than it would them. You see this number in the tooltip when going to request an alliance btw
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>>725100891
No I'm not thinking of the Dutch. I'm thinking of England, a country of little importance in European affairs from the end of the 100 years war to the 18th century.
Lucky that storm saved you from the Spanish armada or you'd still be nothing
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>>725100307
>were
Oh, they still are.
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>>725073745
Why would I buy this slop when mods will be superior and completely free?
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>>725100194
I have 16gb and the game only uses 5.5gb of RAM. No sign of it writing shit to disk like Vic3, Stellaris and CK3 do when you don't have enough RAM.
I have seen several people with more RAM than me claim the game rests at 11gb of RAM usage though, and while I'm not sure yet there's a possibility that some of the lighter bugs I get are from lack of RAM. I might be wrong though.
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>>725101085
yes
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>>725098630
the wars would be 20 dudes beating up the other 20 dudes from across the street because someone impregnated someone's daughter. meanwhile your nation state will send millions to die for no reason
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>>725101364
KIEV?! Really chud??
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>>725101418
still seething
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From what i hear the AI is terrible even by Paradox games standards, i'll keep playing Vicky 3 and EU4 with M&T
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How broken is the middle east in terms of never getting european institutions? Or is it just east asia?
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>>725097259
Nta but ck3 sucks, it's not even a strategy game. It's just a meme jerk off game.
Ck2 still holds up well though
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>>725101224
>No I'm not thinking of the Dutch.
yes, you are.
>da british were of little importance
[citation needed]
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>>725101418
well yeah, Kiev, thats how it was always called.
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How did eu5, the least character focused game of the three, create better character models than ck3 (THE character game) and vic3?? Even imperator had better character models than those two
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>>725101364
Why did god spare Poland
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Byzaboos, johan put us on notice..
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>>725101863
>Why did god spare Poland
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>>725101863
>records lost during the swedish deluge, therefore plague didn't happen
t. 50iq foid 'researcher' responsible for this meme
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>dont want to micromanage sieging every single yuan capital province
>automate it
>armies bum rush mountain forts and die to attrition
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>>725101879
Based fucking Johan
Rome fell in 476, everything else is cope
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>>725101993
the plague really did avoid Poland, but it was because of many things:
>closed borders
>forced hygiene
>Poland didnt hunt cats because of muh witches, so no rats to carry the plague

medieval europe was just a bunch of religious retards ruining their own countries.
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>Want to use Parliement during a debate to change a law
>Click law through the UI, doesn't drain parliement % success
>Literally end up at -90 stability
>Civil war ensues

My fault for playing ironman
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>>725102139
Did you click change law through the parliament UI? Or through the laws UI?
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>>725102324
Through the parliament. I did it multiple time before but this time it decided to fuck me over and of course it autosaved instantly after.
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ffs is there any way to actually see if a country has any allies or is in an union? It shows nowhere on relation screen and only when I declare war I get to learn about it. What the fuck is this UI
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>>725102369
There's a relations tab on the country screen
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>>725073745
This is why i pirate all paradox games.
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>>725100307
>be Nordic
>Colonize/Conquer Britain
>Colonize Germany
>Anglo Saxons (Nordic people in Germany) conquer Britain
>Nordic people settle Normandy
>Normandy Conquer Britain
>Normandy creates kingdoms all over the world
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I have yet to start, but how would you unite Silesia?
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>>725073745
>Europe
>Europe
>Europe

The parts of the map that currently require attention are not European.
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>>725096307
Pr*testants are retarded niggers just like the first pr*testant was. Sad.
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>>725073745
I haven't brought it but if it's looking like it's in a decent state for across the pillars I will, would help if it's on discount by then
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>>725102126
>most j00s in Europe lived in Poland during this time
You forgot this one important thing
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>>725073684
>Even if it weas finished why should I expect it to be updated
Because it will? What kind of retarded question is that?
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>>725100501
>saars please it was us pajeets that made the british great saars
A whole new pathetic level of coping.
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I apreciate what they've come up with as anti-blobing mechanics.
Past a certain distance from the caputal you're getting just 20-35% of the province at best.
In EU4 it felt like the game was over 50 years in.
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>>725073273
nortubel tier map
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>>725101863
The Mongols stole every record mentioning it as an elaborate millennia-spanning prank.
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>>725101863
they're gods chosen people
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>>725103587
Yeah and I had fun 5 minutes into a game instead of 5 hours
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>>725103743
Eu4troon seething
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does the slowest speed run on hour tics or day tics
I'd be curious how it'd feel to play at a speed that mostly moved hours
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>>725096547
Not having to play a janky RTS every time there is a fight is one of EU's best features.
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>>725103810
you're trying way too hard
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>>725103823
Literally not a single thing happens at the hour mark outside of battles. Whoever thought of this concept needs to be fired at once.
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Why not just call it vicky 4? This game plays nothing like any previous Europa.
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>>725073745
My main gripe is they lock new mechanics for all nations behind content for a select few. The content for select nations should be standalone and new mechanics should be free updates. If I never want to play Byzmemeium, but want access to whatever new general mechanics they package in to it, then I'm fucked. THAT is why paradox are the ultimate jews.
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>>725103982
Tricking idiots into leaving a perfectly good game to play a shit game.

The era of EU4 has only just begun. With no more expansion, the game's finally finished.
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>>725102361
you did it through the laws UI, changing laws in there costs a ton of stability
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>>725104074
>>725103906
>Eu4
>Good
Hahahahahahaha holy shit kys eu4troon
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>>725103937
Why, retard? The hours are doing exactly what they are supposed to do.
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>>725104243
None of the UI shows hours; it shows days. Not to mention the performance tank.
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>>725104243
You're replying to an eu4troon who thinks a battle of 2k men should take months to resolve
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>>725100232
There is navy levies, cant you do with it?
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>>725103587
There are ways to raise that tech+ buildings iam more worried about the AI sometimes being too passive
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>>725104384
You're so embarrassing to watch jesus
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>>725102361
>>725102139
Law change is different from revoking estate privileges btw, are you sure you did it right? Law change instantly spends your parliament capacity so even if your original measure fails you should only lose the 7 stab as normal.
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Are Daimyo in a playable state atm?
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>>725104335
Change your clock setting in the options and slow down, it shows hours.
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>>725104534
And you are a seething faggot tranny who will never ever influence paradox to appeal to your horse shit tastes ever again
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>>725104661
Sort of, they start as stateless (like banks) until age of discovery and then all pop out as OPMs and ruin your game as Japan. I think it's broken.
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>>725095873
This. The game runs great. I have 32gb ram, 7800x3d and 4070. All very easily accessible for a employed man, brownies notwithstanding.
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All I'm doing is building roads and slowly see the money go up to build more roads
10/10
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>>725104941
Building boats is cheaper and easier (if your land is coastal)
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They need to make the AI more aggressive
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>>725100674
What is it with this CK3 retardation? There's nothing about CK3 in this game. It's Imperator: Rome 2.0.
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>>725105040
It is but it's opportunistic. Relations don't seem to matter if the AI rivals/declares on you for no real reason.
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>>725105107
Forgive them, brown thirdies only know about ck3/vicky3/eu4/hoi4. It's all they think of what /gsg/ is despite those being paradox' absolute worst offerings in the genre. Literally none of them have touched eu3/vicky2/hoi2&3
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>>725104897
Maksokoha homo velkansa
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where the hell can i see my claims?
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>>725105497
You don't have any unless you're Byz.
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>>725097218
fun manaslop > boring economy sim
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>>725105646
Manaslop sucked, everything they added to eu4 after release was non-mana missions and one time bonus estates and shit.
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>>725105779
>everything they added to eu4 after release was non-mana missions and one time bonus estates and shit.
Because the mana system was flawless and didn't need changing
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>>725106003
Not even Johan says this anymore.
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>>725106149
>Not even Johan says this anymore.
Idk who that is faggot
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>>725106195
I know, newfriend, that's pretty obvious.
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Why are people so disingenuous on this website?
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>>725105040

I've already had holland and brandenburg game ruined by england and poland. At least for smaller nations AI seems pretty aggressive.
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How can you make countries your vassals?
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>>725106738
mixture of bots and maligned losers
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>>725106764
Yes, or fief or dominion (all 3 are different in eu5)
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>>725106742
This, like in eu4 it was pretty trivial to just maintain high relations or alliance networks that kept GPs off your back but not so in eu5.
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>>725106764
You can do it as part of a peace deal or when you go to the diplomacy menu. If you're a monarchy you want to split subjects between fiefdoms and vassals since they only count the combined strength among the same subject types.
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>>725106821
>>725106958
I see. Vassals were the only subject types I knew, that's why I was talking about those specifically
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>>725106780
which one are you?
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>play as France
>kick out England from mainland
>western schism start
Thanks catholic cucks.
Will convert to Protestantism as soon as possible anyway.
Also I miss all the nobles that died during black death and their much needed demand for luxury goods...
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>>725081841
stonks
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>>725101784
>[citation needed]
There is none because there is nothing to talk about in the first place. lol
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>>725101939
cause at the time there was nothing worthwhile in Poland.
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>get measles outbreak event right as I close my border for bubonic plague
Oh Johan
>*Loads autosave*
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I never played 4 except for a few hours of a pirated copy. How does DLC work for this? Do only a few countries have fleshed out "missions" and everyone else is stuck with generic stuff until they slowly drip feed updates for the rest of the world?
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>>725107848
It's an actual game
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>>725108002
Can you answer the question instead of looking for subtext that isn't there? I'm interesting in actually picking it up.
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>>725107848
There aren't real missions and a ton of the flavor is "the hundred years war is still going." So really everyone is generic at release, like ck3.
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>>725108059
It's a video game about Europa universalist, set in the end of the medieval period going through the age of enlightenment. You pick a country and make your own goals. Yes, there are flavor events for all the regions. No, it's not being bing wahoo you get ironman death squads retinues for playing as Prussian like ck3 and eu4
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>>725104531
AI being shit is easier to fix than it is to fix than the underlying mechanics.
They repeatedly failed to curb blobbing in EU4 despite trying many different things.
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>>725108062
>Ah yes, Naples and Novgorod are exactly the same
Wrong lol stop trying to force your shitty taste on others
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>navy levies get completely destroyed when you disband them for some reason
>have to wait years for it to build up again after a war
Did they forget how it used to work in ck2 or something
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a lot of people playing spacewar for some reason
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>>725101939
thats pretty fucking kino, imo.
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>>725108526
well clearly a lot of people were against
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>>725108404
Navy levies are confiscated commercial vessels.
Of course they will disappear once you disband them.
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>>725101939
That's a big if Poles
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How long until they put the netflix dlc subscription in they tested with Stellaris?
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>you owe us too many favors so get fucked
what am I supposed to do with this fact
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>>725108661
>>725108763
2nd best war record in Europe, right after France, who is 1st (historically France has the most badass war record in the world).
Bow before french military superiority.

ironically, the 2 countries with the worst most awful war record in europe are.... Germany and Russia.
The frenchies have all the right to act like smug motherfuckers when it comes to history (we all know western europe is in the shitter now).
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It took me 100 fucking years but I finally got Scotland into a decent spot to fight England. Only problem is, as strong as my standing army is, their fuckhuge Levies are really hard to deal with. You couldn't just pull a giant 50k stack out of your ass in EU4 so it seems much harder to deal with bigger countries now. And Levies really suck to use for the player because it sets you back in population a lot.
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>>725108197
>No, it's not being bing wahoo you get ironman death squads retinues for playing as Prussian like ck3 and eu4
Are there any army modifiers?
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>>725109173
Levies should be like 1/5th as strong per unit if you have a good General and drill them for experience. So a 10k Regiment should beat a 50k Levy. Fix your formation so your cavs flank
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I CAN'T STOP BUILDING ROADS AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>725073273
I'm just checking out the game and damn it's insane the amount of stuff and mechanics they added. I was expecting it to be a lot more barebones until they started to release the DLCs but I'm feeling overwhelmed, and I'm experienced with Paradox games like EU4. They basically added stuff from Crusader Kings and MEIOU and Taxes too
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>>725110472
>Eu4
>Paradox game
That's like calling clash of clans a strategy game.
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>found out estates can build debuff buildings if rich and with enough influence
>find out my whole country is diseased with them
They are like cancer...
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>>725110526
Wow, anon. You are so cool. I'm impressed.
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>>725110526
>"Heh you getting filtered bro? By a Paradox game? I bet you find playing checkers difficult too"
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>>725110526
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>it's up
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>>725109087
Give them money?
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>>725110681
I look like this and say this
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>>725110947
venice has triple my income, doubt they would care
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>>725110771
>Estonian tranny
No I'm sticking with Russian chuds
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>>725109087
>curry favors
SAAAAAAR
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it runs like shit on my gayman laptop from 2021 so I refunded
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>>725105445
Ei. Nukkui pois.
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>>725073273
I didn't think this would be true but yeah it is. The early game is horrendously slow unless you are specific countries.
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It was impossible to fish in rivers or lakes in 1337 according to Paradox.
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>>725112553
>laptop
nigga this game requires a cpu fan
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>buying any paradox anything after the EUIV release and subsequent decade of DLC milking
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the whole parliament system sucks dick. why is that the main way to get casus bellis that just feels wrong
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>>725073406
What was God thinking, more like.
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>>725102081
>play a game where you can literally pause
>dont micromanage it
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>skim the thread
>/pol/niggers in full force
what is it about these games that brings out maximum WE WUZZING in peeps?
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>>725113120
what the fuck am I looking at
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>>725113590
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goddamnit it's out already?
I feel like I have so many nations I still have to play in EUIV
and I still haven't even gotten around to anbennar yet
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>>725113120
... Rolling
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>>725113430
history and religion
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>>725113120
>A 16 year old eagerly has sex with a 26 year old
>rape
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>>725113120
KEKAROOOOOOOOOO
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>not revealing being transgender until after sex
so if I have sex with a "girl" who later reveals to be a man, I can charge him for rape?
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>>725114020
No since you can spot a tranny a mile away.
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>>725114020
Yes plus defamation and psychological trauma should net you a pretty sum
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>>725091621
Click the "Remove Jewry" button, anon.
t. CK2 King
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>>725113120
Explain
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Why did I get a Casus Belli for a province that I already own from an event?
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>>725114421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU4KwuyIBqo
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>>725110472
For once, a Paradox sequel has more mechanics than its predecessor.
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>>725114850
guess they finally started losing money because of their retarded practices
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Kinda based how the game lets you put the blame of black death on the jews
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Is
>Uh they released a patch! This means eu4 wasn't total dogshit!
The newest tranny cope?
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>>725113120
>73

Mostly women do this though
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civ is dead because some heeb tried to do the paradox model on civ7, what a disgusting company
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>>725115591
Yeah I hate it when my gf removes her condom.
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Ok, was expecting it to succeed but not by this much. We are so back bros
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>>725113120
>and subsequent decade of DLC milking
Why is a decade of post launch support a bad thing?
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HOW THE FUCK IS THERE NO WAY TO GET A NOTIFICATION WHEN MY ENEMY FORMS AN ALLIANCE
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>>725115946
>uhhh sire, someone on the other side of the world just formed an alliance
Stop being such unrealistic chud
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>>725115917
These >>725113120 neets don't understand that people that are working on something expect money in return
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1.0.2 patch dropped
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>>725115946
they didn't have internet, anon
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>>725113120
>husband raping wife
No such thing
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Can someone explain why am I in Nurnberg market as an enclave?
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>>725116215
Not my problem, my pirated version is still 1.0.0
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>>725116046
>have a rival
>dedicate half of your diplomatic effort just to spy on them
>predict their every move
>finally attack them after years of preparation
>bohemia, france, england, ottomans and ming come to their aid
>what the fuck, that wasn't in the memo
>shit uhh sorry sire, forgot to mention that
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>>725116448
>Free City of Bern
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>>725116215
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-0-2-patch-notes.1868042/
patch notes
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>>725115276
>it's based that you can discredit all anti Semitism as the government scapegoating innocent people
Oh, anon...
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>>725116915
>Made the "Fruit Wineries" production method correctly use Fruit instead of Rice as input.
whut?
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>>725115917
>>725116159
>Why is a decade of post launch support a bad thing?
I assume you guys know that the actual nuance here is that most people who talk or complain about this tend to emphasize that the content of the 'ten years of support' are often seen as overpriced for what they actually offer or represent feature releases purposely cut up into pieces for easy monetization as they slow drip it to the audience. People can cite the unit packs or various content packs as easy examples of the type of post game release content that is criticized the most. There are instances of significant features that people expect for the base game (either on release or as a base game update) which are then inserted into the dlc for the sake of prioritizing the monetization over ensuring the best experience of the game.
Not making a definite statement about what is right or wrong about their setup for post release content (although naturally someone will take this out of context or interpret this how they please) but there is plenty to be said about how their content releases tend to be perceived. The fact that many of their dlcs are negative in rating or release to plenty of critiques about the balance/technical stability/cost to value says a lot.
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>>725117205
shut up nigger they release 1 dlc a year and they're the most easily pirateable games left these days
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>>725117205
Not reading all that tranny
You lost
Johan hates you
Stick with eu4
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>>725117313
>>725117380
>durka durka
Well its not like I expected anything less.
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when do I start making money?
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>>725117205
If you don't like a DLC or think it is overpriced then don't buy it.
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>>725107490
historylet lmao
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>>725117493
I increased my income just by setting up buildings producing goods that my estates don't have enough of in my capital.
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Start doing this
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>>725104335
>to mention the performance tank.
fucking THIRDIES REEEE
just upgrade your toaster poorfag
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>>725073273
Bring back Frisia and Utrecht desu
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>>725073406
Why would you play as mudskin scum invaders. You disgust me
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>>725073273
Jews should always be expelled desu
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What the fuck does it want from me? I've hovered over like every nested tooltip in here
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>>725118089
That just makes it someone else's problem
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>>725117493
when you build in high control areas or increase your control of existing areas
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>>725117796
I'm playing on 2020 vintage intel and the game is running just fine, it has to be laptop faggots or people with genuinely old hardware complaining.
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>>725117956
they're right there in the top left tho
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>>725117719
>conquer whole peninsula
>start making money
It really do be that simple.
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>>725118205
Hover more
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>>725116215
>>725116915
>claim throne CB is fixed
Based
We are BEYOND back
Going on 4 PU's and counting
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>>725107490
do buildings ever make money? haven't seen a single econ tab with them in the green
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>>725118205
I'd say it's a bug, try going back and forth in the tutorial tooltip. Unfortunately, I think you can't save at that point, so reloading would mean you'd have to click through to this point again (honestly that's not even a minute tho)
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>change capital
>capital exclusive buildings disappear
couldn't you like... move them?
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I can't stop playing Brandenburg...
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did paradox accurately model this or is this ahistorical slop?
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>>725118205
Don't use the tutorial, just watch the openings from a few youtubers who have played awhile.
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>>725119063
Uhhh yeah let me pull up the comically big wagon and 100 horses to move it
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>>725119242
Beyazid was raped 7 24 btw
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>>725119063
this nigga livin' on the steppe, just move yo captial ahh nigga, just move yo feast nigga haha
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>>725119070
my chinlet brvther...
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Did we ever get revenge for the Fall of Constantinople?
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>>725118850
If you arent making them faster than peasants can change roles to work them and you're supplying them with raw materials from trading yeah
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>>725100232
kek I also did something similar.
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what should be built before the black plague? building goods buildings seems pointless as the demand is going to collapse.
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So is it fun or not?

I'm hearing a lot of conflicting opinions, and the usual "come back in 5 years".
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what do I do with this? they're not my subjects like in eu4
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>>725119620
you can build hospitals but they really don't do much and they cost a lot

I would spend them money on roads or RGOs, as RGOs are *always* profitable and provide either inputs or pop goods.
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>>725119772
eventually if things go well you can make them your bitches and even annex them.
mini hre mechanic
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Why the fuck would they pick a fight with me specifically
In what way are our interests at odd
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>>725119772
You need to maintain it and mess with laws if you want it to actually do anything. It's an international org like the catholic church so it has its own rules.

Also make sure to check your diplo capacity (not the green bar) to make sure you're not over, alliance orgs are really heavy compared to regular alliances.
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>>725119772
>3 at once
oof that might be rough to pass the laws but basically you will get a bunch of laws to pass and you can keep the union separate or pass centralizing laws (one is to make them join all offensive wars) until you unlock annexation
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>>725119702
It's already ok, the UI is kinda shit but the biggest issue is the AI
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>>725119702
To me, the biggest hurdle seems to be how much time you have to spend on it. Probably the longest overall campaign and timescale (with hourly ticks), no start dates to choose from, plenty of game in the most shallow era has to be played before even hitting exploration and discovery. Which is a turn off for me.
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>>725119934
nords seethe at the existence of succesful meds
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>>725120075
You can explore and colonize from the start of the game, it's just expensive.
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>>725103179
morocco and the ottoman empire are not in europe
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>>725120075
Hourly ticks are extremely overhated, they run in microseconds since it's literally only troop movements and battle calculations.
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>>725118408
I mean in the modern era
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>>725119989
2 at once
im milan
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>>725120075
>plenty of game in the most shallow era has to be played before even hitting exploration and discovery
RIP Portugal

Also doesn't that just mean people will quit even earlier? Basically no one played EU4 until 1600.
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>>725108526
"God's Hand Made Wonders, God's Hand Made Me"

is my favourite medieval quote
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>>725118214
Then they should be expelled into hell prior to being crucified
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>>725073898
>Doesn't remember on-disc DLC's
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I've played Eu3, Vicky2 and CK2, started Eu5 but I'm a bit overwhelmed. Any tips?
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>>725120116
>from the start of the game
I assume not up to the coast of the Americas and other exotic locales. I'm talking more about the era of globalizing trade and colonialism than just having the function of exploration. I'm sure that Spain and Portugal have some early exploration within their relative vicinity.
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>>725119620
I have been hospital maxing but just to test I'm gonna try to explicitly make things worse for myself as boheemia. Last time trying to max disease resistance I ended at 1.05m pops. Writing this for my own records will be back shortly
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i really really wish they don't just add later startdates, but also an earlier startdate set in 1265 or something, would be absolutely epic
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>>725120329
>Basically no one played EU4 until 1600
but that's because you could blob and become so powerful that you would roflstomp any coalition by that time
if they have made expansion harder, then maybe it will remain interesting for a longer period
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>>725120432
treat it like dwarf fortress, try learning one thing at a time and keep in mind you'll lose and restart a lot.
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>>725120542
Sorry mean to say after black plague came and went first time, no other diseases. Obviously if smallpox or something else hits before would change my results. Is there a disease resistance mechanic built in and hidden somewhere for pops? Like if I get smallpox twice is the 2nd time much weaker due to immunity
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>>725120617
exactly

>>725120329
if they don't listen to trannies and leave the game more or less as it is, without a few nations conquering everything people will play for longer, unfortunately too many troons complained about "nothing happening" because there weren't a grand total of 15 countries left by 1811
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>>725120617
I haven't seen anyone show EU5 late game yet, I'm very skeptical
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>>725120528
Oh, yeah you can't cross oceans until age of discovery, apparently the ai caused problems when they could cross early.
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>>725120542
the plague is semi random right?

>>725119872
roads and rgo's that drop construction cost(lumber stone)?
I was wondering if any control buildings are worth it or building more towns/settlements pre plague.
I've played till 1400 and save scummed plenty to get a handle of what fucks shit up
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>>725120329
>doesn't that just mean people will quit even earlier? Basically no one played EU4 until 1600
Yeah that is a possible issue I'm waiting to see addressed by those who have significant time with the game. If EU4 was the kind of game rarely played up till the later years due to players gaining too much momentum to lose in the first few decades and just the general attrition of interest in a campaign over time, I wonder how does this manage to maintain interest when it starts even earlier and takes longer. Some may say that anti blobbing measures will help, but I'm already seeing plenty of people dismiss the AI as a worthy challenge and dominate their campaigns early.
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>>725118354
Which CPU model?
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>>725115276
Maybe if the jews didn't poison wells post-Black Death, they wouldn't have gotten blamed for it.
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>>725120854
>>725120542
the plague is semi random
the plague can be removed from the settings
the plague can be altered from the options by changing the origin location from the settings
the plague is not a problem
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>unprofitable buildings
THEN MAKE THEM PROFITABLE
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How do you set to ignore unprofitable buildings/population displaced etc
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>>725121002
im going ironman second run now that I have the ropes. so I shan't be doing that.
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>>725121002
I love the plague. I'm just trying to survive it with ~25% of my people decimated and not 60-80%. My first run as moscow I got raped and lost a solid 75% of my pops. And pops are power, so if you can lose a factor less, then you're set to stomp all over any rivals in the region
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>>725120918
10700
>>725120854
don't worry about diseases, construction materials are good to expand and roads are your only real control expanding building for awhile. expanding pop goods like wheat/fruit are good because pops like them and they're used as input goods.

re: roads, don't go too crazy they're expensive and eventually the estates will build them for you, try only connecting them to your city/town settlements at first.
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Fuck it I'm just gonna buy it. Parajews always release tons of little patches after release that pirates don't bother uploading. I'm gonna play thousands of hours of it anyway
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>>725121141
mouse over the flag and right click it
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>>725117084
Sake bros???
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>>725073273
I'm surprised this many people on /v/ are talking about a strategy game, let alone EU5
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>>725121382
the famous aragonese sake, get it while fresh
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>>725121336
This was my thought too. If us real chvds show that this version of paradox release (not coddling trannies and redditors and third worlders) is profitable, they will realize who really put them on the map in the first place. I am willing to die on this hill of gatekeeping the fuck out of eu5 and driving all the manababbies, MP faggots, and one click WC shitters out
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>>725121430
Paraslop has been way more popular than traditional RTS for years at this point. When /vst/ was made a lot of people there complained that it's just a paraslop board lol.
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How do you into levies? My neighbours have so much compared to me
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>>725121618
pick military option when the age changes and research all those techs, there's also a tech somewhere in professional armies I think that buffs your levies
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>watching a video on military and generals
>admin and diplo stats are actually important,
>morale is a diplo trait
>logistics and siege are admin traits
jfc why did no one tell me this.
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>>725121618
>computer uses parliament to declare war on you
>you use parliament for increased levies
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>>725121743
the patch today just made it so ruler admin affects distance to capital lol
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>>725121743
tooltips tell you this
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>>725121743
hover over it nigga
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Some parliaments give you really really good bonuses during debate like 20% discount on building certain types of industry btw. Save dry powder for when one is coming up
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>>725121803
>you can pick a general under 25 mils but over 75 admin and diplos and win
>to carpet siege you want admin generals
LMAO
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>>725116876
Countries didn't announce their alliances until after WW1.
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>watch friend playing
>he's around 1500s
>every province in his country is starting to urbanize
>buckets of ducats but food production goes to shit
>suddenly a famine hits
>his economy dies
>his population dies
>his country dies
>all within a year
I get it johan, I'll build the granaries...
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It's like I'm playing CK3 but it's actually difficult
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>>725122062
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auld_Alliance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Ottoman_alliance
what are you talking about
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>>725122185
You can check the food tab to see which areas are net food producers, it's usually easier to just click a couple RGO buttons than rely on granaries, which only paper over the problem.
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>>725122359
>frogs have been islamophiles for half a millennia
suiting.
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Doesn't click the same way as EU4 for now t b h
Maybe it's the M&T-like autism with all of the different materials
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Anyone else notice AI prioritize taking provinces as far away from their capital as possible?
Serbia called me into a war against Venice but they happened to be allied with Ancona and after the war these retards annexed italian provinces instead of dubrovnik like they wanted to
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>>725122937
in other news Aragon now owns Liguria
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>>725122937
Had a war where they wanted my vassal but in reality they just wanted me to be their paypiggy and leave my vassal alone.
also my allies said they wanted land but I could not find a way to give them land in the warscore. but they were happy if I took the land.
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any tips on what to do at first? do i have to build some buildings? which one?
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>>725117973
I will correct history and save the world from white occupation.
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anons the ottomans are growing... you told me nothing ever happens.............
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>>725123487
They just patched the game.
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>>725123487
they are actually byzaboos
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Since they now will be releasing quadrillions of DLC each week can I finally assume that EU 4 is complete now?
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>>725123641
but i pirated the game anon
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>>725122837
It clicks in the same way victoria 2 clicked and that's why it's a good video game.
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>>725123675
Happened to me too
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>>725123371
Take an hour looking at stuff before unpausing.
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>>725123870
my fellow russian enjoyer, maybe something about the player being russian does this
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>>725123896
yes but what buildings should i build, this is what i don't understand? should i just build rgos?
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>>725073506
Victoria 3 didn't need 50 DLC to become good.
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>>725124023
Maybe you're onto something, it didn't happen when I played the Eastern Roman Empire, they just conquered me instead.
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>>725121971
Yes, besieging is and always has been a factor of leadership not being fucking retards
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>>725122837
Kys eu4 troon
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>>725123870
Someone on a forum claimed its because they start with more orthodox subjects than muslim
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>>725124267
Fuck off sperg
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>>725124317
Well logically it just makes sense, Orthodoxy is Christ's true flock. And the ottomans probably read the zutt passage and were like "We gave up Tengri for this shit?"
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>>725124356
Call him a eu4 normalfag and it runs off him like water. But call him a troon and watch his shrink back
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it's 1362 nigga what guns am I supposed to find
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>>725124138
you can automate buildings and let the game play a bit and get a feel and then see

the ui looks intimidating but it's actually quite good, in the building tab there's an expand RGO button and then it pops up a list and you can sort by profit. so mouse over whatever the flags at the top where it shows what inputs are being bought by pops or imported and then find the most profitable sources of those and expand them. this is all basic vicky2 stuff anon, didn't you play the only good paradox game????
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>>725096772
Is there something like that but just for city building? For example, where you can micromanage a city/town under your rule. At least the capital.
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>>725124418
it could just be a revolt that changed them. I haven't looked at the pops myself but in 1337 western anatolia is irl orthodox for centuries.
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Once you conquered a lot of provinces you're supposed to automate buildings unless you want to min max everything
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>>725124497
you may call him eu4 normalfaggot, manabab, casual, it all runs off him like water off of a rain coat; but call him a troon and see how wounded he is! how he suddenly shrinks back,
>i've been found out
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>>725122937
>>725123189
>playing paradox games on release
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my union is big and it keeps getting bigga
that's cause jesus christ is my nigga
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>>725124571
BUILD arms nigga like what the fuck nigga how is this even real hahah just build the factory in yo capital nigga haha
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>1400's
>netherlands already formed
what do i do now?
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>>725124882
quit because retards haven't thought about the pacing at all
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>>725080512
>Exported 1.0k coal
O shit nigga what are you doing? Just build more glass factories.
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>>725124882
colonize and keep the stinky spanish from owning you.
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>>725124882
colonize, maintain a concert of europe
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>>725124167
Because it's fundamentally broken and can never be fixed?
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>>725117719
>conquer Spain
>make money
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
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>>725103179
Anon, what's the name of the game?
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>>725123371
You have to watch multiple youtube tutorials from different sources to understand what the fuck you are supposed to do. Yeah, it's shit but it is what is is.
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>>725122937
EU5 sounds like the worst fucking paradox game ever, stupid ai decisions ruin entire playthroughs on their other games for me. IM NOT PLAYING THIS SHIT
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>>725123371
roads if your nation is of decent size. and stab slider if you want to change government/laws, stab is your mana.
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>>725103179
>he playes OOE
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>>725125160
>>725125257
when you expect to spend several thousand hours on something a small learning curve is expected
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>>725124882
colonize and/or blob into the english channel (southern england and northern france)
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If you don't think EU5 is the tightest shit we can't be friends
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>Large threads on /v/ and /vst/, lasting 12+ hours, over the launch of a fucking Paradox title of all things
What the hell is goin on guys
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>>725125381
You'd expect devs would make it possible for people who give them money to be able to understand it simply through the game alone
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the fuck is this shit
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>>725073273
we are so back chudbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U99oQSFvgIA&list=PLchKrUy6HCEGphRJi1lUTbQ6qBZ88Xu7z&index=1
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>>725125882
I see a lot of CK tier border gore in a lot of these pics..
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>>725125753
it is, there weren't any youtube tutorials for vicky2 and most of us figured it out. if you don't want to take the time to mouse over stuff you can watch a video.
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I remember playing EU4 for the first time thinking that it was going to be extremely difficult, but getting the gist of it in 10 minutes. Then Paradox kept making the game easier and easier with more mission trees and permanent modifiers to the point that it was comical, and "good gameplay" meant rushing mission trees and then swapping to another country to get their mission tree. It was always retarded that you could swap national identities as easily as a pair of shoes and there is zero negative repercussions at all.

EU5 is already MUCH more deeper and complex than EU4 ever was, it's frankly not even close. The learning curve is fucking giant. It's a pain in the ass so far to play this game at all, but I think that this can end up as the best paradox game.
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>>725125882
>hungary not using vassals for control and free income
every game
>look at ibera
WTF lmao
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I didn't order this Library to be built, how did this happen?
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>>725126250
>this construction in the ESTATE CONSTRUCTION part of the outline is a mystery
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>>725126250
estates can build buildings with their money, just like capitalists in vicky
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>>725126250
estates do whatever they want
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>>725124882
With or without Belgium?
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FREE FROM TEMPTATION
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Why can't I fabricate claims?
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>>725126445
without since france own all of belgium
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>>725126727
ask your parliament bro
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me? I just watch the map as I cant decide who would be good to learn playing as
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>jan mayen not playable
shit game
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>>725126395
>>725126408
>>725126420
I just, didn't know that could happen.
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>>725126853
incidentally this is also why you want to release low control areas as subjects. you don't get shit but the estates get the full benefits from low control places, where at least you get some tax and ai soldiers from vassals.
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>Oh my atheist, did you just right-click in the rivals menu to exit the menu? That's an instant -25 stability for you, with no warning!

Why are they like this
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>>725126167
>read tooltips
>try thing out
>doesn't work
>stare at it for 10 more hours
>it's supposed to magically work now
retard
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>>725127085
is there a vassal limit I have not understood that, its never hurt me yet
I've seen 3 level vassal teutons-livonian order-courland.
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Can someone explain to me why a game that's just a bunch of menus needs a great PC to run?
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>>725127248
you didn't read the tooltip correctly
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>>725126750
Then you know what you must do, Netherlands isn't complete without Belgium
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>>725127279
sort of, you have a diplomatic relations capacity but it's weighted different than eu4
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>shitter nations in shittenburg and fartfurt coalition me
>people don't want to be my friend even if they have a combined total of 200 guys
why
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>>725127203
wait what?
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>>725127234



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