>be zoomer>play the old Fallout games>they're actually kino holy shit3 and NV are the boring ones
3 and NV are also good but for different reasons
>>726271336Sometimes when I think of Fallout I think back to my school years and how one time I was telling this girl who was nice to me all about the crazy shit you could get up to in Fallout 1 like a true excited retard and she kept saying stuff like "You should show it to me I can come over sometime" and I never once picked up on that. Good times.
>>726271336Also a zoomer and I tried Fallout 1 recently and it's also much better than I thought. I'll try Fallout 2 next when I have the time
>>726271336>play the old Fallout games>they're actually shitFixed
>>726271336we've been telling youplay some of the mods for 2 while you're at it
>>726271336I'm old and I thought NV was alright. I didn't fall in love with it, but I played it through once
Glad you zoom zooms are enjoying it. I've always thought that Fallout 1 is the most tightly designed RPG of its era. Holds up really well compared the others of the time excluding perhaps the original Diablo which also shares a very lean design philosophy
>damn bro this game is fire>just like my goytuber idol said frfr
>try fallout 1>try to help the junktown mayor>Ian magdumps his SMG on my back>one bullet hits the mayor>mayor starts attacking Ian instead of the assasins>mayor misses and hits me instead>assasins shoot me and I die>last save 20 minutes agoUninstalled on the spotshit game
>>726271336Yeah dog.Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns. New Vegas bored me.VATS > loot > repeat is kinda fun for a few hours, at least.
>>726271336How are fallout games "kino"? You make these shit threads every day. There is no good fallout game. They're point and click adventure games but somehow even more casual. Holy hell, slav-ified /v/ totally sucks ass. There isn't a single good thread in the catalogue right now. You people belong in a meat grinder.
i like how old fallout actually feels like an RPG. like it actually feels like its inspired by tabletop gaming and you're playing it. its really cool that way. the newer games just dont have that feeling. yes, even though new vegas has a lot of choices, it doesnt quite have that tabletop feeling.
>>726275378>i like how old fallout actually feels like an RPGYou've never played a real RPG. Just by being single player oriented its already leagues away from a real RPG experience. In fact, Fallout is arguably where something first went really, really, REALLY wrong with CRPGs.
>>726274492This is why I save constantly in this game
>>726274492>last save 20 minutes agor u retarded
>>726276291extremely insightful
>>726276356If a game requires you to quicksave nonstop to avoid bullshit deaths then it's a shit gameAnd fallout 1 doesn't even have a quicksave button, you have to click like 4 times per save
>>726276387Yes there is no autosave so losing tons of progress is very scary, I saved scummed a ton as well because of the skill checks
>>726271336>be millenial>play the old fallout games>they're actually incredibly boring and overratedLegit some of the worst crpgs ever made.
>>726276551I can feel my brain expanding
>>726275439Nah.
>>726276451>If a game requires you to quicksave nonstop to avoid bullshit deaths then it's a shit gameGIT GUD>And fallout 1 doesn't even have a quicksave button, you have to click like 4 times per saveCTRL+S or ALT+S should work I think (then smash ENTER a few times).Patched versions probably have a real quicksave/quickload button now. Maybe it always had one. I don't know.>>726276551>because of the skill checksThe Fallout-1-in-2 mod removed most of the randomness there. I think it's a good thing desu.
>>726275204>tranime opinion
>>726276726You're welcome
>>726275204didn't gatekeep hard enoughit unironically bothers me how the catalogue is full of absolute fucking garbage like gachaslop and zoomer trash like dispatchthis board needs a fucking cleansing
>>726271336i remember playing this when it first came out and had a blast
>>726276740There's nothing even to argue. You're just dead wrong and all you can do is pout and lazily bump your shit threads all day, abib. This shit is boring. 4chan lost 180k posts per day this year and its because of shitty curated threads like these overwhelming the board. No one wants to use a board for video games thats 95% shitty RPGs. No one even checks this shithole any more because its just a bunch of boring normaltards who don't play anything unless its trending on twitter.
>>726271336Fallout 4 survival mode > alland this is without the stacking multiplier that is Far Harbor, the greatest DLC of all time.
>>726276871>This shit is boringYet you are always here.>4chan lost 180k posts per day this yearThat's a good thing>No one wants to use a board for video games thats 95% shitty RPGsYou're illiterate too, it would seem.And who the fuck is abib.
>>726276829>>726275204same shit happened in all other boardsremember how naruto was basically banned in /a/?they have constant naruto threads now
>>726277073>Yet you are always here.I played video games for 10 hours today, just these 2 games alone are 8 hours, which came out today. You people suck ass. There needs to be a new image board, 4chan is ruined. And I don't mean like moe where its just corrupt goober gate mods that got thrown off 4chan. This place is becoming unusable. All of you are worth less than shit.
>>726271336>New Vegas le badKys retard zoomer. The best RPG of all time along with Demon's Souls and Divinity Original Sin II
>>726277347All fallout games are dogshit for normalfags. And this is as per the devs. Tim Cain openly stated he made Fallout for retards and continues to make games for retards.
>>726277297>tranime neet nigger who shitposts endlessly the same shit with the same avatarfagging pictures >sucks shmups off nonstop despite having nothing but baby's first shitclear even after thousands of hours in the genre
>>726277103/a/ is just pass users poster whatever gay generals they want now. There's no even room for actual discussion. Letting pass users all have their own permanent dailies utterly destroyed the culture of that board.
>>726277425>Tim Cain openly stated he made Fallout for retards[Citation needed]
>>726277639coming soon to a board near youyou retards should never have allowed these gacha subhumans to get a foot in the door
>>726277425>muh normalfagsYou're brown, ugly, smelly, jobless, and have a double digit IQ.Tim Cain had zero involvement in New Vegas and has extensively played and praised New Vegas. No idea what you're talking about, as expected from a complete subhuman retard.
>>726276719This, except not the millennial part. That part is cringe.
>>72627449220 minutes is nothing wtf
>>726277717I'd 100% honestly rather have gacha than the RPG spam we have now. This is unholy levels of bad, at least gacha niggers stick to their generals. This board cannot survive someone making a thread on every normalfag rpg ever released every single day and bumping them all day. Imagine if someone did that with cygames entire catalogue of mobile games or something, that would immediately raise red flags.Its just obnoxious. RPGs have ZERO gatekeeping qualities, any idiot can play them, and often its idiots who DO play them. I would argue they're what ruined the board and opened the gates for all the other awful shit.
>>726277761>Tim Cain had zero involvement in New Vegas and has extensively played and praised New VegasBased Housefag Timmy.
>>726277947go back, holy shit
>>726277871>I'd 100% honestly rather have gacha than the RPG spam we have nowThere is no such thing. Also>gacha>preferring gachas to literally anything elseYou're just a fag.
>>726277974no u
>>726277871>I'd 100% honestly rather have gacha than the RPG spam
>>726274492>giving ian the smg
>>726278076I am dead serious and I unironically believe there is nothing more normalfaggot coded than RPGs. Who is Fallout gatekeeping? Its got a fucking netflix adaptation. These games are for retards. And what's worse, it attracts retards who are smug about it, who try to raise up other retards who have also never played a video game before. Its constantly shit like>heh bet you didnt know a bout THAC0 kiddoAnd other assorted retarded remarks. You can absolutely MASTER any rpg by speedreading the manual in 3 minutes. There is not a single one this does not apply to. Its a nitwit genre that dumb people pretend is complicated but really people just avoid it because its boring and shitty 99.999% of the time. Like I'll see people say>UMMM YOU DONT LIKE THIS CASUAL GAME FOR THIRTEEN YEAR OLDS? ZOOM ZOOM!!! IF A GAME MADE FOR THIRTEEN YEAR OLDS WAS MADE IN THE NINETIES THAT MEANS ITS FOR ADULTS NOW, ZOOM ZOOM!!!Its just annoying and weird. Like of course dumb teens like it. The entire premise of this thread is retarded. Fallout is a newfaggot game. For dumb newfaggots who suck at games.
>>726278406>thing bad because it's even remotely popularkys already retard. Your tranime garbage is more entry level than any RPG
>>726271336I personally find FO1 incredibly painful to attempt to play, like Planescape Torment, but the writing and artstyle and atmosphere is truly top notchFallout 3 is more FUN but it's horrifically ugly to look atFallout 4 is fun and good looking but who the fuck cares about some gay ass Bethesda Boston?
>>726271336Fallout OG is good because they don't have the shitty ass ps1 3d quality like 3 and NV did.
>>726278502There is nothing more casual and retarded than Fallout. /v/ is worthless now. There is no future where gacha deserves to go but RPGs don't. Get rid of both or neither. This board is full of perpetual newfaggots incapable of growing or doing anything new. Its just all rpgs all the time because its the most laziest thing they could find.
>>726278406No, you can't learn an RPG in 3 minutes.No, people are not playing games like Fallout 1 for the brutal challenge.No, games like Fallout 1 are not popular or entry level outside of enthusiast circles.Yes, you would get your ass handed to you by some of the harder RPGs out there.This is either bait or you're a complete retard. Either way fuck off nigger
>>726278597Nah, shmups are the most casual and retarded genre. Literally just fly a little gay spaceship around and play the same static stages over and over again until you memorize every detail.It's an incredibly gay and boring genre for braindead retards.
>>726278645>No, you can't learn an RPG in 3 minutes.Bro I've done it plenty of times, how fucking retarded are you?>No, games like Fallout 1 are not popular or entry level outside of enthusiast circles.You aren't in some in-crowd for playing fallout 1, get your head out of your ass. Its insane. You're not playing the "harder" RPGs, /v/ doesn't discuss KotC2 and even that is fairly self-explanatory and felt very natural to me as someone who grew up with 3.5e, and I wouldn't even say it requires 0.001% of the effort that's required to beat DaiOuJou Black Label. Hell, I don't think it requires 1% of the effort that goes into beating utter normalfag games like Celeste. Its a low effort lazy retard genre, and not being popular doesn't have any bearing on that. These are casual normalfaggot shut your brain off games from people who don't like video games and want as little resistance as possible on their path to spamming 4chan with threads. Only a complete asshat could praise this slop.
For me it’s Metallic Monkshttps://youtu.be/r6qt_70iGk4?si=XhujCq-2OjSPNj-S
>>726278768>It's an incredibly gay and boring genre for braindead retards.That agony you feel when the shmup doesn't let you 1cc it is what actual video games feels like. In the case of shmups its like staring directly at the sun after living underground your whole life. You're so divorced from gameplay that effort hurts. Its like working out for the first time.
>>726279023I’m partial to radiation stormhttps://youtu.be/KZZKzJTGI9E?si=Ps9fq8gE5rHyt5w2
>>726278907Why are you comparing turn-based RPGs to gay arcade shmups that you haven't even cleared? Shmups are a braindead genre for retards where you just repeat the same static, boring stages ad nauseam until muscle memory takes over. RPGs are about immersion, worldbuilding, sense of adventure, experimentation, player choice and freedom. Combat and challenge are not at all a priority in most RPGs, at least beyond what is necessary to furthering these other systems.>>726279028You have thousands of hours in shmups and only one loop baby's first shitclears with non-existent scoring to show for it.Shmups are the most braindead, repetitive, autistic, low IQ genre in existence, and even that you still can't do well.
>>726275439AD&D is a single player.
>>726279340>RPGs are about immersion, worldbuilding, sense of adventure, experimentation, player choice and freedomGames are a set of rules and challenges to be won. There is no "adventure and immersion" in baseball. What you're describing is nitwit simulators where you fiddle around trying to fit a square peg in a square hole at best. There is no creative problem solving in Fallout, its just a really dumbed down point and click adventure game. Everything you've listed has NOTHING to do with video games. You could get a better "adventure" fix by just wandering around some third world shithole in google maps. You're clearly some spastic retard who's addicted to digital heroin to keep the mental disquiet at bay, you aren't the least bit concerned about gameplay. All RPGs are is repeated gacha rolls, every time you loot a corpse or pick a pocket its pulling the lever on the slot machine, broken up with VN segments. Its the same exact thing as gacha, but arguably (very easily arguably) even more casual.
>>726279023based
>>726271336It's because old Fallout games are unique among CRPGs as barely any CRPGs actually go for he whole solo protagonist angle. They're almost all DND inspired and rely on a party formation. Underrail is one of the only other CRPGs that do that.
>>726279781Its just wasteland 1 but super dumbed down with all the RPG mechanics gutted, what are you talking about
>>726279646>There is no creative problem solving in Fallout,>*dies to rat in the first cave*
>>726279812>killing a rat is a le challengeThis is exactly what I'm talking about when I say RPGs are for sub-50IQ retards. You died to the rat and were forever mystified.
>>726279646>dumbed down point and click >despite having many more mechanics, complexities, playstyles, and combat challenges(You) made the bait way too obvious.Funniest thing though is for as much as you praise shmups for their oh so incredible depth and challenge of digital movement of a gay spaceship inside on-rails, static levels, you can't be bothered to actually get anything beyond baby's first one loop shitclear that even a total novice could earn with only a few days of practice
>>726279809>Its just wasteland 1 but super dumbed down with all the RPG mechanics guttedWrong
The onimai avatarfag won't admit it, but he doesn't actually hate RPGs, he just theatrically acts like he does because he a.) Is butthurt that all of /vrpg/ rejected him, and b.) Has latched onto the "arcade is for HARDCORE GAMERS" crowd (even though, as previously stated, he's not particularly good at them) and needs to keep up a persona
>>726279924Dude yes it is. All the interesting stat interactions with the environment are gone. All the team coordinating is gone. The ROLE playing in a ROLE playing game is your ROLE in a party. Once you gut that its just a meaningless adventure game. Every mechanic from fallout you like is in Wasteland 1. And yes, you CAN play Wasteland 1 solo, just like you CAN play Fallout 1 solo, even though companions exist. But unlike Fallout, Wasteland 1 is a punishing and RELATIVELY complex game that won't let you do everything by yourself, which is not the case for Fallout. Nothing Fallout does is new, all this stuff was in games like Wasteland 1 and Dragon Wars. All Fallout brought to the mix was a super casual retard friendly interface and video games with zero obstacles that make you always feel like the hero. Its for morons lmao
>>726279023>>726279243mark morgan did an amazing jobits comfy+ominous at the same time i even went to sleep to it
>>726271759Nah, I was right the first time.
>>726279994>The onimai avatarfag won't admit it, but he doesn't actually hate RPGsI legitmately hate RPGs and I hate what they've done to /v/.>Has latched onto the "arcade is for HARDCORE GAMERS" crowdI had 2000 hours on fightcade before you even heard of me lol, I have always liked arcade stuff. I went to arcades in philly a lot when I was teen because my uncle opened a restaurant there that I worked at.
>>726279646>Everything you've listed has NOTHING to do with video games>videogames should never advance beyond Pac-Man and Donkey Kong because.... I LE SAID SOpost Darkest Dungeon deathless torchless Bloodmoon runpost DOS2 solo honour noLW runpost Dark Souls SL1 no roll run
>>726280223>post Dark Souls SL1I could unironically do this. I won't because that sounds retarded. But I could. Because DaS 1 is fucking slow as molasses.
>>726280217>2000 hours in fightcade>literally all he has to show for it is a handful of baby's first shitclears that a total novice could earn in a few days
>>726280336>literally all he has to show for it is a handful of baby's first shitclearsI was actually pretty good at the fighting games I played, I just passively 1cc'd games while I waited for matches. Like the time on fightcade is matches only, it doesn't record practice or just emulating. You don't get 2000 hours of matches by being bad at fighting games.
>>726280101There's like 100 other reasons people play RPGs aside from the difficulty when you use a min-maxing cheese build that you read off the internet. Fucking retard.
>>726280568I don't care that you "play" video "games" for an "interactive experience". You people are the reason the AAA industry is so shit now.
>>726274492I TOLD YOU ABOUT IAN BROI TOLD YOU DOG
>>726275204Oh lord, it's this nigger again...I prefer that Fabio guy to whoever this faggot is. At least he posts Fallout shit, in a way.
>>726280645We don't care whether you care retard. Shmups are a dead genre, now cry more that no one is playing or discussing your flash game tier shovelware
>>726280768Why do you keep referencing your gay dead board? Why is /v/ so full of retarded cross-boarders? Those boards died for a reason and if you bring your board to *this* board, logically it will also die. And then what? Just move on to the next community to shit up?
>>726280859
>>726280796You're such a normalfag retard that you don't even know what CRPGs aren't being played. Because I'm not telling you any more. Because /v/ is so dead when I don't post about something all discussion of it dies outside of the status quo. You have no idea how many CRPGs have released to a whopping 5 players. You're just chasing after AAA slop and whatever old shit for little kids an e-celeb recommends.I can tell you right now, if you're an indie dev and developing an RPG, you have absolutely POISONED yourself.
>>726271336Yep only real issues is lack of any kind of music in the caves/dungeons,starts to really feel lonely after awhile
QRD on the guy who has what I assume to be a hateboner against RPGs?
>>726281032He is mentally ill and wants attention.That's it.
I like how a lot of side characters/factions like the ghoul, the BoS, etc. turn out to be linked to the main plot. It's a tight narrative, not like later games that are all over the place. NV feels like it tries to course correct but it's dragged down by the baggage of needing to follow-up FO2 and FO3.
>>726281124wownarrativesthrilling
>>726279646>Games are a set of rules and challenges to be wonWinning and losing are simply outcomes of a game. The most important thing of all is to have fun. People can lose or suck at a game and still have fun.>There is no "adventure and immersion" in baseballWhy refer to sports? Humans have played pretend for as long as we have existed, whether it be through moving pieces on a board, stories, plays or whatever else. RPGs are simply one form of it.>You could get a better "adventure" fix by just wandering around some third world shithole in google mapsMaybe (You) could, being mentally ill and all.>All RPGs are is repeated gacha rolls, every time you loot a corpse or pick a pocket its pulling the lever on the slot machineFactually wrong, and gachas fucking suck.>>726280101>All the interesting stat interactions with the environment are gone. All the team coordinating is gone.Stat interactions that amount to very little, due to how everything always end in combat.>The ROLE playing in a ROLE playing game is your ROLE in a partyNot necessarily.>Every mechanic from fallout you like is in Wasteland 1LMAO no. Wasteland is far more similar to Might and Magic than it does to Fallout. All that the talking skill amount to in this game is get some NPCs to join you. There's hardly any point to the stealthy skills because there's not a lot of chance to use them. No aimed shots. No traits or perks that really differentiate your characters, and many others. Not a bad RPG by any means, but the similarities are exaggerated.
>>726281032He's always avatarfagging. Avatarfagging is retarded. You do the math.
>>726280976>you don't know how many irrelevant shitty indie games are flopping!No, I don't know and I don't care. The games I like (mostly RPGs) are discussed here. Shitty arcade shmups are dead and irrelevant.
>>726281329>Winning and losing are simply outcomes of a game. The most important thing of all is to have funGames are, by definition, played to be won or to achieve a cooperative goal. That's the game part. You can have fun doing anything, not just games. Surfing is not a game, its a recreational activity. Until its a competition, then its a game. Because the competition introduces structure to the recreational activity. People who seek out video games as some sort of interactive genre fiction do not really like them, and its no surprise the RPG spam here has been accompanied by a slew of off-top genre fiction and /co/ threads.The rest of this post is entirely wrong, and the attempt at a rebuttal is so lazy that there's nothing to even respond to. Its just a flat out lie or really lazy nothing-statements. RPGs have completely rotted your brain.
>>726281510>he games I like (mostly RPGs) are discussed hereAre they? Its the same posts and threads every day. Its just generals being made for the sake of visibility. Or are you so genuinely retard that these incredibly cyclical and repetitive threads feel fresh every day? Its the same handful of games posted on a loop, with the same exact bait, also posted on a loop. I don't think OP is even playing fallout for the first, I think he made that shit up. For attention and to cause fomo. Why do I think that? Because 5 other RPG threads were made like that today.I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who goes into these threads and thinks theyre having a real conversation and it isnt just some weird mentally ill faggot leading them along desperate to keep as many of their shit threads on the board as possible. Like stuff like this >>726272718That's not discussion. That's just really gay and feminine small talk made by guy that makes 50+ threads a day. Its boring.
>>726281857Bro, you really don't have any right to call anything gay and feminine
>>726281053Why are retards replying to him?
>>726282000That's manly.
>>726279647>>726280139https://youtu.be/T8j_KgAgOnw?si=MCPREToL1hph8jp6
>>726282018We didn't teach zoomers about not feeding the trolls.A tragic mistake in our part.
>>726276829Yes and it needs more Final Fantasy threads I also want a monster racing JRPG sim one.
>>726282080Damn...
>>726282018Are you mad people aren't just making the same asinine boring remarks over and over like a bunch of bots? Because that's what RPG threads usually are. I have never opened up an RPG thread and thought>man this thread looks like its full of interesting human beings with valuable inputUsually when I look at the quality of posts in an RPG thread I'm asking myself things like>do these people speak english as a first language>did this guy come here in 2016>is this entire thread one personand so on.We can take this all the way to bump limit. You're gunna bump it for 20 hours anyways.
>>726281649>Games are, by definition, played to be won or to achieve a cooperative goalNo. Games are, by definition, played. That is the purpose of games, for play. It can be for amusement, or for competition.>Until its a competition, then its a gameAre you perhaps thinking of yourself as some sort of Grecian athlete, competing against virile young men in an ultimate contest for fame and glory? Don't kid yourself. You're a loser posting in an anime forum about electronic amusements, same as the rest of us.
>>726282153>I have never opened up an RPG thread and thought "man this thread looks like its full of interesting human beings with valuable input"...Then why are you opening them? All you have to do is hide or ignore the thread. You deliberately entered a thread containing something you don't like. I don't get it.
>>726282342A troll, anon. Or an idiot. Best to ignore him either way.
>>726282342>...Then why are you opening them?Because its 95% of the fucking catalogue. You ruined the whole damn board.
>>726282342He says he won't because "lel the thread will be bumped and spammed so I might as well bump it off quicker"In reality, he just wants attention
>>726271336I've never finished Fallout 2, it's just boring. Love Fallout 1 though
>>726282438There is nowhere for me to go. You've shit up the entire catalogue. The board is dead. I left other boards because you people ruined them. Now you've ruined this board. Now where do I go? Will you ruin that too?
>>726282527>Now where do I go?Hopefully, through the loop of a noose
>>726282342WHY DID YOU REPLY TO HIM RETARD
>>726282590Tell me how its acceptable to just have a board that's entirely "narrative" and "atmospheric" games. Its just fucking gay. None of you play anything and the board cannot survive like this. Lets check in on /vrpg/ and see how that board is doing. Lets see what they think of the newest RPG to come out.>>>/vrpg/3874733Hmm 99 posts, likely the fastest thread /vrpg/ has had all year, and not a single person has played the game for even a single second and they're all just sitting around waiting for someone to play it for them. And it also looks like some had a meltdown and spammed the thread with gay porn to boot. This is the problem. The culture abib has enabled is not sustainable. You're all boring and useless and retarded. The board will not survive like this. /v/ can't work like this. It will be dead within a year.RPGs are just no good, people need to play other things.
>>726282882>It will be dead within a year.god i hope so
>>726282727NTA, but I'm just doing it because it's amusing. I mean, just look at this>>726282527Can't you sense it? His desperation, his anguish? I can hear him WEEPING from beyond the screen. He is literally going insane from threads on a Cambodian origami forum, and I love it
>>726283162You're doing it because you don't have any friends and need to post a billion RPG threads every day on /v/ to feel validated. I mean, imagine the hours put into making fallout threads on /v/. We're talking tens of thousands easily. People bump this shit all day and night.
>>726283223>guy who is melting down because of 4chan accuses others of having no friendsrumao
>>726283162You are retarded, he is not weeping because all he craves is attention, and you are giving it to him like an idiot.
>>726282497The main quest for Fallout 2 is definitely less compelling than the first game imo
>>726283280You're gunna be here for the next 10 hours bumping all the RPG threads you made. And 1 year from now, when this place looks just like /vrpg/, because you people are complete cancer and can't help youselves, you'll be here alone doing the same shit, and lashing out at anyone who posts anything that isn't one of the whopping 20 pre-approved games in your repertoire, while pretending like you dindu nuffin. You know exactly what you are.The same thing has happened on multiple boards already. Every board is becoming the same handful of crap curated by whatever retard with a pass is willing to spam the board nonstop.
>>726283457Eh, that one didn't hit. Make yet anoter effortpost for me
Good on youYou actually played some games unlike 90% of this fuck ass board
>>726283575That's it. Screencap it and look at it a year from now and see where you're at. Still playing the same casual rpgs on a loop. Still making the same exact threads. That's the post.
>>726283457>you'll be here aloneLmao you're not going anywhere. You know this is the only place where you can get the attention you so desperately crave and ban evade. I'm gonna make you squirm and dance for me with these tear-stained rants till the end of time, and you'll just keep coming back like an abused housewifeNot OP, BTW
>>726283797>Not OP, BTWYeah you are, and I've already left multiple boards and you keep following me and making the same shit threads because you can't survive on your own.
>>726283884Okay, now this is getting entertaining. Do you believe every single thread of a game you dislike is made by one anon who is obsessed with you and does it specifically to make you mad? I wanna know how deep your mental illness runs
>>726274492>>last save 20 minutes agoZoomers as a generation are a complete lost cause
>>726284016No, I think the guy who boldly announces he's just here to argue and shitpost and harass people who actually play video games is here to do exactly that. I think the guy spamming the bulk of rpg threads is on some strange and retarded culture war to "convert" /v/ to the gospel of not playing anything, because that's exactly what happened on /vrpg/. I'm not saying to play X or Y game, I'm just saying to not be a sad retard going through the same handful of old low effort slop over and over. When young people look at people like that, they should be paying attention to what that old person is playing. If they haven't moved on, if they don't have new things to play, then listening to that person is a waste of time and they are clearly stuck in a rut. And similar things happened on /lit/, /a/, etc. I've found better alternatives to those places and will never be returning to them again. It's just a sad way for 4chan to die.
>>726284498>I'm not saying to play X or Y game,You've repeatedly told people to stop playing RPGs and play "real games" countless times in the past, why lie?
>>726271336The game is good but scarce of content. Fallout 2 is worse because most and best quests are at the beginning of the game. But the further you go the content dries up. And it's shit by the time you're in San Francisco.
>>726284937People who play rpgs are not playing new games. It's a waste of time. They all play like 10 games in between just grinding diablo or some mmo. People need to pay attention to that. If someone isn't optimistic about the future, that's a dangerous person to listen to and you'll be worse off for following them. You can look at the catalogue now and no one wants to play anything. That's the culture the rpg spam has ushered in. You had a whole board to try this on and it failed. This is objectively a failed experiment and it didn't work. If you can't change your tune and find new things to be excited about this is a waste. Having a narrow scope of experience just means having less things to play. I always have a game to play and be excited for.
>>726285119FNV is better than both of them
>>726285278Cyclical and repetitive arguments
>>726285306It's the truth so it doesn't matter if it's repetitive
>>726271336I'm also a zoomer, it took me a few attempts over the years to get into classic Fallout. For like 5 years I would start the game and get bored around Vault 15 and quit.One day I just said "fuck it, I don't care how bored I get, I'm going to sit down and actually beat this" and around the time I got to Necropolis the game finally clicked with me and I started having a lot of fun.>3 and NV are the boring onesYeah. 3 genuinely had a lot of solid ideas that would've made for a great Fallout game had it not been developed by Bethesda.Meanwhile NV is just pretty good. It's really just a bog-standard "old franchise resurrected and dumbed down" title. I feel like if Bethesda Fallout didn't exist, people would be far more critical of NV as a sequel to 2.
>>726285671For me it clicked at around Junktown when I helped Killian kill Gizmo. I think I didn't play it for a while because I was intimidated by the difficulty and time limit. But actually I don't think the game is that hard, the difficulty progression is pretty smooth. It's just that it doesn't really hold your hand in terms of directions
>>726271336>be me >lower IQ guy, tested 91 >played fallout 3 first>it's good>played fallout 1 after that>become obsessed with it and fallout 2this was 17ish years ago, a year after f3 release i think.fallout 1 > sonora > fallout 2 > NV > 3 > tactics > everything else
Interesting, very interesting
>>726285671 Same here, except I bounced off it like three separate times over the years because the interface just felt like molasses. I kept going back because the atmosphere stuck with me-just walking into Shady Sands and hearing that somber music again would keep me going for a few more hours. When it finally "clicked" for me was The Glow. That whole area, with how punishing it is and how much story it tells through ruins alone, made me realize the game’s way smarter and more ambitious than I gave it credit for. And yeah, if NV had been the first 3D Fallout, it would’ve caught way more flak. People forget how much goodwill it got for fixing what Fallout 3 broke. It's not bad, just not the messiah people try to frame it as.
>>726275204looks like slavs are the only ones here with good taste who play actual games like fallout, gothic, civ and wuchang while you fags only post about tendieslop, gaylo and make shillthreads like about dispatch
>>726288930slavs have good tastes but they are often very niggerish in behavior
>>726288330there isn't necessarily a high correlation between good taste and high IQ
>start game>move 5 paces>click on rat>wait 5 seconds for rat to attack back>click on rat againRiveting fucking gameplay, turn based uncs belong in nursing homes