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Have you made a Christmas vehicle yet? Let's see it!
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I can snap drift now. Now what?
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So far I just colored vehicles red green and either white or gold, plus ice or shooting star aura. Wanted to do some fancier things like candy cane stripes, but I couldn't make stripe decals look good without either gaps or bleed into other colors, or getting screwed by not being able to put decals in the middle of the vehicle why is that even a thing
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One day I'll learn the secret to consistently surviving the Chao Park jump and maybe then I won't hate the track.
inb4 there isn't a secret, just win the coin flip
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Knuckles is Jewish.
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>can't use boost to dodge dark chao
>bomb in the air slows me to a crawl
>less than a second in 1st but kbb still locks on me
>trucked
https://litter.catbox.moe/jey15i5aw98zpcq0.mp4
Yeah I can already see this is not going to be a good race night. Anyway, World Match lobby if anyone wants to kick my ass too:

3137-2493
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>>728901371
>host dc as soon as someone joins
Of course. New one:

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I'm trying to make a Christmas vehicle that doesn't make my car look like a tomato.
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>host in 1st
>gets hit by my magnet in lap 3
>see him in the shortcut without a boost
Uuuhhh whoops
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>3 points for 3rd
This is going to take me a few days. If I don't get constantly fucked at the end.
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>>728899665
I am become Wave (AI Racer).
8010 points in World Match btw, Legend 1 is in sight.
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>>728900493
>not being able to put decals in the middle of the vehicle
I think either it's a coding thing due to EGs not having the cab part, or it's to prevent people from drawing dicks or whatever on the side.
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>>728903873
I swear it happened on a power car too, I'll double-check later
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Should I get Knuckles or Silver next?
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>only 5 human lobby
is everyone just on LC since its about to end?
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>>728904158
I had a full lobby of 5+ legends early, so I guess the game's matchmaking is wonky right now.
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>>728904140
Silver, I really like the teal they changed him and Blaze to.
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>>728902450
>host dc at race start
New one:

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We should get bikes.
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>>728904551
extreme gear are the "bikes" for this game though.
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The Sage squad is back
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trying to make santas sleigh as a car. It has to be a power vehicle though. Any ideas
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Fuck Rouge. And not in the good way.
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I want to touch her shaved head
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>from 2nd to fuck you in the last 10 seconds
Great race.
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Damn you, catch up items!
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>>728787636
First 12 hours sunk in and I'm already re-training everything to kbm. I do not feel as reactive on controller.
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The sage vs knuckles holy war
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>>728903917
Okay, I guess it isn't actually nearly as extreme as I remembered on non-EG. I think I ran into a different issue last time I tried, but I'll take another go at it.
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Probably last one, I'll go eat something. Will come back in a few minutes and host again if no one else does.
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were drills always this fucking weak? i used one in 10th and couldn't even reach 9th.
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I did it... I got the Legend 1 aura... I'm finally free...
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>>728905385
Largely depends on where it's used and how far behind you are. The amount of mileage you get out of drill laser and even truck is wildly variable.
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Had to pay that silver back for something.
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I haven't played in weeks. Tell me there's a festival this weekend. I'm tired of dealing with surfers and the shit servers.
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>>728905456
>a million miles behind the pack cause it's a bunch of 1up kikes and ttvs with uc
>use drill
>still can't catch up
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new lobby
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>>728905386
Is that you Jokerbro? Congrats. You really deserved that. Now you can finally play for fun.
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Was fun sageGODS. GGs
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>>728905385
Your spiral power is too low
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>>728905386
Congratulations! Now you can go back to regular racing.
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>>728905638
You stopped me from making Sage smut.
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>>728905361
Yeah, I see the problem now. Even max size stripe decals don't reach across the vehicle regardless of orientation, and decal stacking prevention is so aggressive I can't even connect two to make it look good.
Maybe I should just go red/green as primary and do some smaller candy cane patterns on a different area.
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>>728905747
how? my drills always end before reaching someone, or they'll end right after reaching someone. is there a gadget I need to equip to make the drill better?
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>>728905950
You just have to know the best place to use it, which is generally:
>on the straightaway in front of the finish line
>on large/tight turns
>on offroad shortcuts
All of these apply to laser too.
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>>728906105
okay but what if im like 1/4 of the track behind 11th place because im running a drift build that doesn't use lv4 charge?
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>>728905950
You just need to believe in the you that believes in yourself
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They better add Christmas Nights as an alt skin.
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Someone broke the lobby
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>>728906319
i dont believe in myself
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>two of us shitting on a 1up cuck
good race cream
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didn't mean to hit your with that ring. I was trying to snipe the silver surfer
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>>728905747
>sagebro clearly on the left trying to avoid the drill
>hits him anyway
That's fucked up
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>>728904551
We'll get the Skates Extreme Gear in the sequel
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>>728904551
While I'm thrilled I finally get to use Eggman on an EG, cutting bikes (and skates) altogether feels wrong. Given they don't even bother with voices for paid DLC characters I don't expect them to put in the effort to rig those, but I'd love to see them return.
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>>728906641
Don't even know how I won that considering I got flung off the track by that magnet towards the end.
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>Blaze isn't out of place in a group of little girls
Grim...
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No way, the game actually gave me that 1st lol.
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RUDE!
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>>728907402
Sorry, I will never not dump the garbage I have left as I cross the finish line.
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>>728904551
We already know bikes are in because she's in.
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Aw, fuck.
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I got my hands on Mario shart world and it just cemented that I like the actual racing of sonic more. World feels like if you have technical drift on but without the ult charge and speed to go with it. Anyway this isn't really supposed to be a flame post just wanted to say that I really do like crossworld more and hope they continue to improve on the series
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>>728906156
If you're somehow that far behind 11th and can't catch up without the item, you accept your loss and practice the track afterward, there isn't a loadout excuse for that
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Any lobby up or should I host one?
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>>728905638
GGs to everyone in this lobby!

>>728908138
Host.
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>>728908240
World Match:

2047-0604
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>>728901364
He had dinner with his Jewish friend's family.
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>>728906356
Sorry, anon. We'd know by now.
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>>728908749
When costume shop arrives. Trust.
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>>728908295
>host communication loss mid-race
>lobby is still up
Every time I think I've seen every way this game gets connection errors, I discover a new one.
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>>728908910
I usually get host errors only. I think the game got tired of giving me different errors.
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>>728908968
Usually when I get a host error, the whole lobby just explodes, this is the first time I've seen the lobby stay up from one even though I got kicked out.
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I know I said I would not get mad for losing points and this point of my grind, but I can't really help it when I do good 99% of the race and some fuckery at the literal last second makes me lose them so easily.
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>>728909456
I feel you. It takes only one 8th to undo like five good races, it's maddening.
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If I had a nickel every time I got slimed between the moment my truck ends but before I can use my dodge item, I'd be a fucking millionaire because it ALWAYS happens to me somehow.
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>>728909456
I feel you. I said the same thing, but seeing number go down just feels awful even when there isn't any incentive left for number go up.
I need a mod that hides rank.
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Be back in a moment, jokerbro, sorry for making you wait for nothing.
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>>728910042
That's fine lol, I thought the lobby exploded again.
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Is it 94 races to acquire all gadgets in singleplayer?
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>>728910085
Sorry, had to get afk and didn't know how long it was going take and didn't want you waiting.
New lobby:

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>>728910304
All good, I'm not in a hurry to get anything done at the moment. Just chilling tonight.
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>>728903873
Like that stops anyone from drawing them elsewhere.
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>>728909958
For me it's when my character complains or scolds me.
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Sorry about that tornado. Wasn't necessary but was panicking back there.
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>>728910710
I was getting harassed by slicers that whole race anyway lol.
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>the jet who stayed like 10 seconds behind at race start gets 3rd
Some people don't even try to hide their bagging.
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And there goes my recent 1st. I'm starting to hate myself.
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>>728911176
I ended up bagging my way through most of Legend 2, it was the most consistent method of not getting trash races even though they'd occasionally still happen.
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>Everyone on Cross/v/ords making Holiday cars
>You are from the post-commie region, where you never celebrate Christmas in December and have 0 Xmas spirit
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>-2 for 4th
This is what silver surfers play for lmao.
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>>728911252
I'm too stubborn to use a bagging build, I don't find it fun. I know I only have myself to blame for not trying to adapt to the bullshit at the end, but no use using something or playing in a way I would feel ashamed of winning with.
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>>728911402
You could still make a snowman minecart or something.
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>>728911640
Respectable, I have enough Mario Kart experience to take no shame in bagging. This game's bagging meta is a lot more nuanced than Mario Kart's with the item limit at least.
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>>728911640
I tried out bagging for the first time today myself. It feels like shit not trying to race in a racing game for the first lap or two, but I didn't outright hate the lap 3 gameplay.
I'd still rather surf or QR drift where I can race all three laps, or dash panel ring boost or QR slipstream where it at least makes sense to stay near the front though.
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>>728910483
>Suboptimal performance
>Where did I miscalculate?
Sage is such an ungrateful brat but sometimes her lines encourage me to git gud
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That Big player can shove that slicer he threw at me up his ass.
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>>728911841
Funnily enough MK is the reason I don't like bagging. In all my years playing kart racers since SNES, I never had a reason to bag. I could always front run without that much of a problem. I never even knew bagging was an actual thing until recently. Don't know how fucked up World ended up but until 8DX I can say I've never EVER bagged in any game. At least not on purpose.
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I give up man. If it's not losing 17 points in 4th cause the lobby is filled with bots and golds. It's losing 17 points cause it's filled with annoying plats and emeralds. Ceiling reached 1800 is the highest I can climb
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>>728912375
I won't defend bagging, but I think it's a valid playstyle to use in these types of games. With that said, bagging is WAY too good in Mario Kart World and doing it is actually brainless in that game in particular.
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I give up for tonight. Too many loses in row to be fun. Thanks for the games Jokerbro.
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>>728912630
GGs! This goes without saying, but don't be hard on yourself if you end up with a collection of bad losses. Learning which tracks to frontrun on and with ones you should have a boost or laser saved for going into lap 3 will make a huge difference in your consistency.
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>>728912475
As a bagger, I am at the mercy of making sure I do GOOD enough to keep up with the middle of the pack and hope I'm not forced to use my good shit right before the final shortcuts.

If I'm forced to use my items, I know I'm SoL at the last stretch.
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>>728912798
Nah, that last race was the game telling me to go eat shit. Had a monster truck and triple wisp boost in hand, and right at the shortcut in donpa factory game decides to bounce me from a wall and making me fall right as I activate monster truck.
There's only so much shit I can endure in the spam of a few minutes and this game likes to throw everything it has at me right when I DON'T need it.
I swear getting to legend 2 was a mistake. I sucked the whole fun factor from the game for me.
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>>728913058
I know what you mean, bagging is a lot more than just letting items play the game for you. I just think bagging in Mario Kart World is mindless because of how easy it is to get a winning combo of mega mushroom/golden mushroom with a shock dodge compared to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

>>728913069
If you're not interested in the aura, then there's literally no point in caring about points. I give no shits if I end up falling in and out of Legend 1.

If you do care about getting the aura, set 50-100 point goals per session, stopping if you either gain or lose that many points from where you started. It won't be painless, but it made things a little less frustrating for me. Joining /v/ lobbies made grinding points generally easier in my experience since there'll be less silver surfers in the lobby.
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>>728909456
I don't like saying it to people who have obviously chosen not to use it, but I surf for a reason. I got tired of losing to things completely out of my control when I race better than the entire lobby for 90% of it.
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>>728913535
I'm only trying to reach legend 1 for the aura. Can't care less if I rank down all the way down to E after that.
And to be fair I'm doing better than most anons here, I think. I've seen some at 8000 points going up and down for days and never getting out of that range, while I'm already over 8250 and can generally recover then faster before losing a few. It's just those moments when I'm stuck in a losing spiral, even if I'm doing great all race, that brings my spirit down.
>>728913863
As with bagging builds I don't find it fun. I did my share of snaking in MKDS (which ended up ruining its dpad) and I don't plan to repeat that experience, I value my hands health too much.
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>>728914025
If you're still able to gain points at all after reaching Legend 2, then it's a matter if when you'll reach Legend 1 rather than if you will. Definitely quit out early if you're not doing well and don't feel like playing, being frustrated is only going to make you play worse. You definitely have the skills to do it, this just isn't a purely skill-based game.
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>>728914315
>Definitely quit out early if you're not doing well and don't feel like playing, being frustrated is only going to make you play worse
Yeah, this I try to do. I love this game too much to stop when I still have the time to play, so I'm playing race park right now for a few more minutes to cool myself down before resuming the grind again tomorrow.
Can't wait to leave the grind behind and only race for fun.
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>>728914604
The relief of not needing to worry about points anymore is honestly a bigger reward than the aura you get for it. I want to say it took me about two weeks to get to Legend 1 from the bottom of Legend 2, even with some sessions being nothing but setbacks. Just gotta persevere and not let plateaus demotivate you.
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it's time to stop voting for kronos island.
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>>728914941
I hate squid bridge
I hate the end cut
I will vote for it anyway
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>>728914941
I see Kronos, I vote Kronos. No matter what other track is in rotation.
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>>728914941
This but for Galactic Parade when it shows up as a CrossWorld, it's fucking desync city and it almost always gets picked when it shows up.
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>commit tornado genocide at Egg Expo
>before the tube even
>host dc
>>728913069
After going back and forth between L3 and L2 a bunch I came to the conclusion that it will probably happen eventually and I'm not in a hurry like the Nights fans were since the inevitable movie festival is still TBA.
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>>728914941
Kronos is actually just that good.
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>>728914941
I shan't.
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>>728914941
I love that everyone is in almost complete and total agreement that the track with mute colors is the bestest one
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Just put the announcement in the bag SEGA it's getting old.
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>>728915168
This, but blizzard valley.
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Kronos would be the perfect track if the final cut didn't exist. They were so close to perfection, man.
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>>728910946
1/ I do that all the time just because I miss the start of the race while alt tabbed
2/ 10 seconds at the start of the race is literally nothing, you catch up in half a lap
3/ why the fuck would someone try to "hide" their "bagging" it's the only other prominent strategy
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>>728918835
Good morning Samir.
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>>728919436
We are literally going to get raped by mkw.
Just stop fighting.
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>>728919656
+10 izzat to you, bloody benchod
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>>728911090
>Cheese's floating head emotion thing morphs during animations
Huh, cool. I never noticed since I don't play the bnuuy.
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>find a hardstuck silver twitterfag permacrying over items in legend competition
>suddenly he's switched his tune to seething about ultimate charge
Is this where the anger towards UC is coming from? Crabs in a bucket mentality?
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>>728922576
Mostly yes. They don't want to use it and they feel helpless because (obviously) they are getting fucked in the ass by items while people that adapted are mostly escaping the hellstorm. They don't see when UC players get hit, because they're never there and don't play the build for more than a few races at a time.
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>>728922948
I remember running UC, but after some time I kinda got bored of it (maybe because I wasn't that good at timing those level 4s) and switched to CHADstream + QR. Far less sweat, and somehow my results got better.
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>>728922948
I feel people some people do try it but they dont immediately see results, and because the build punishes mistakes hard since it has no ring gen they just seethe harder
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>>728922948
I mean I get it, it's a specific playstyle and if you don't like it can be frustrating that it's so much better than whatever you do like. But I don't think many people understand just how much worse the meta would be if ultimate charge was gone.
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>>728923857
>>728924110
>>728924293
Yeah. I mean, it's pretty clear that it's far and away the best build, and that if you don't use UC you aren't on equal footing, but a game without UC becomes a complete crap shoot instead of somewhat a crap shoot. I'd much rather play UC vs. UC than QR vs. QR/baggers.
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>>728922576
Basically. The UC hate wave started around the same time lower ranks started realizing they couldn’t instantly steamroll with twitchy lines and hoarded items anymore. UC requires foresight, commitment, and *timing*, three things the usual silver-lobby twitter warriors can’t wrap their heads around. They see someone blast past lap 3 with clean level 4s and assume it’s broken instead of learning how to play around it. It's easier to cry OP than adapt.
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>>728925382
lol
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Did that other /v/ro ever manage to hit legend 1? I know Jokerbro got his recently.
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>>728922576
Somewhat, but there's other compounding factors.
>refusal to learn tracks
Someone who wants to frontrun is naturally going to want to learn how to stay in the front. Salty players tend to point at UC over this, while taking turns wide, skipping shortcuts and rings, and not drifting. Speaking from experience, I can surf a track well without getting hit once and still never break away from the non-surfer pack if they're driving well too.
>frustration over "hitting" with an item and not seeing slowdown
Online desync means you typically see other racers 1-2 vehicle lengths ahead of their actual position. By extension, your item's flying out 1-2 vehicle lengths ahead of your own position on other screens. UC also gets the finger point here (and rightfully so, shield desync is awful too), but there's a ton of situations where a hit on your screen was a total whiff on theirs.
A silver lining to having TTVfags in every race is having another perspective you can reference afterwards, to see what really happened and adapt for future matches.
>slipstream
One surfer up front moves at around 220-230 speed. 2+ surfers up front are moving at 240-250 speed. Power cars are faster slipstreamers and can keep up with this, but at that SSS tier speed an item hit easily puts the victim out of slipstream range, which means it's usually not the surfers left behind. This is where the big breakaways happen and I don't have a defense for it. If UC remains both untouched and meta, EGs should probably have reduced slipstream speed to incentivize other vehicle types with it.
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>>728927673
>an item hit easily puts the victim out of slipstream range, which means it's usually not the surfers left behind. This is where the big breakaways happen and I don't have a defense for it
Huge factor and I don't think Sega even understands this, let alone has a solution. They made Slipstream immensely powerful, so much so that if you are competent at a track and within range of a pack leader, they can never really outrun you, which leads to those huge clumps of UC players in front that you start seeing more and more when you're climbing to Emerald rank. If you get close you're easy to swat away, but if a UC merges with a UC it's often a ~minute long fight for one to land a single hit on the other.
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>>728928228
It's made worse by desync making the slipstream a constant thing instead of taking turns. I've lost races riding a slipstream because the other person was instead riding my slipstream from their pov. Can't pull ahead when you're both going the same speed, but it's sure great at leaving everyone else behind.
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>>728926565
Got mine last thread >>728838559
Now I get to enjoy all the fun of LC tier +1 for 3rd -35 for 12th with none of having to care about the points mattering it still feels bad seeing the past hour of meaningless points vanish
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>>728927673
>2+ surfers up front are moving at 240-250 speed.
The slipstream effect last long enough that you can trade lead and chain it? I would have assumed that the person in from would be going the regular speed and put a cap on the speed of the pack. We should try harder to exploit this during the team games.
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>>728923857
>switched to CHADstream + QR. Far less sweat, and somehow my results got better
Your racing line while using Level 4s is a total fucking mess compared to just driving in a straight line and drifting in the turns, more often than not. It's a very annoying play style to get good at, so I totally understand why it's not terribly popular for average players.
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Maybe I'll do some hosting later. It is the weekend after all.
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>>728929032
I haven't kept an eye on how long slipstream lasts once you're no longer behind them. It's largely just stupid because desync lets you both be behind each other at the same time, so that speed remains constant for both players while neck and neck.
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>>728929032
No, they can both get it if they are desynced, which is somewhat common. On your screen you are in their wake, but on their screen they are in your wake. This doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen.

Diagram to help.
NOTE: this ALSO APPLIES TO ITEMS, so items that you throw or place are, for every other player, not actually where YOU placed them, but where your ghost on their screen would have placed them. Everything is defender sided. This is likely why they made so many items homing/auto-aim, to compensate for their shit netcode.
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>>728929219
Can you host a lobby with attack items disabled? I want to use Perfect Boost Bounty and not get owned.
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>>728929637
I only do world match lobbys. You'll have to ask another anon for that.
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>>728929681
aww :(
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>>728906545
shimon...
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Silver surfers feeling elitists today, thinking they're so much better racing than anyone else. "muh racing lines", get down your high horse you fucking idiots.
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>>728929441
>>728929598
That is a bit ridiculous to think about and not something I had considered even knowing about the desync. I'm personally really hesitant to be that close to someone even if the game shows what item they are currently holding.
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>>728933336
this game's online play is held together by bubble gum and tweed, it's genuinely shocking once you see how deep the rabbit hole goes. everything on your screen is at most a suggestion, you're not seeing half the shit other players are doing, you're not seeing the item shots and angles they are actually going for, and you start to understand why someone can shoot a homing item forward and hit themselves with it
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>>728933336
Fun fact: if you are in kissing distance of another player and activate Tornado, there's a 50/50 chance that they're not actually in range to get hit by it on their screen. Have fun leading your aim with that one :)
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>>728934684
I hate this shit like you wouldn't believe. I've been getting better results lately, but it's wild that giant circle of fuck you still isn't always big enough to beat the netcode.
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>>728934395
Slicer jank isn't netcode related, right? I haven't verified it offline, but it seems like it just indiscriminately seeks whatever gets in front of it.
Most of the time, anyway. I've seen a few times where a slicer flies past first and continues down the middle of the track, no idea what's going on there.
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Wake Up
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>>728932861
>"muh racing lines", get down your high horse you fucking idiots
Anons will say this and then accuse 1UPfags of cheating when they get massive leads because "it's impossible to be that fast"
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>>728940082
Don't argue with shitters, they will never be happy no matter what balance changes are made to the game.
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>top 100 is 2033 now
>mfw sitting on my ass around 2060
surely the bar doesn't get that far up in the next 31 hours
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>>728941010
Wish I could tell you you're safe, but 100th place was 2012 points only a day ago. It's going too be close. Don't do anything stupid unless you absolutely have to gain points ~two hours before the gate closes.
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>>728937704
Okay, maybe it is netcode. Trying to replicate that webm of throwing a slicer before the E-Stadium cut then getting hit after and it just flies right through me. Surprised slicers are different online considering how client sided everything else is, but I guess that explains some things.
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>>728941010
I wish you luck. I'm back in gold kindergarten due to a poor decision last night.
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Do you guys really take online multiplayer that seriously in a *kart* racer? A party-racing genre that was initially tailor-made for local multi-play?
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>>728943609
I don't, but it's not any different from taking Melee, CoD or Dota seriously
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>>728943609
I like to play semi-competitively with my friends who share the same sentiment. Doesn't matter how shit the game is for "real" competition, we just like the friendly banter.
And that does mean we all have to be top 100 in LC.
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>>728943609
People love to compete.
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every emerald rank always gets 1st or 2nd whats their secret? what the fuck am i doing wrong?
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>>728945025
>whats their secret?
Unironically they're just driving better. 99% chance they're surfing too but they're definitely driving way better.
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I really wish the jukebox was more customizable
some tracks have good lap 3 versions (Ocean View) but I don't want to switch out or randomize all of them, just the fucking horrid
>AH-EH-OH-OH-AH-EH-OH-OH-AH-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and maybe stick Metallic Madness on Eggman Expo or something
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>>728945025
Drive good and not bad. If you're not cranking out S Rank equivalent times every game you won't keep up.
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Switch game
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>>728946428
Doomerbros.....our Steam Charts......



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