I find genuinely surprising how, with the reveal of one tiny detail, you can instantly kill any and all interest in a game
>key card
>key cartThis has stopped me buying so many games on my switch 2. I almost got bravely default on launch but didn't because of this.
>Physical digital What was Nintendo thinking with this
I hate modern Gamefreak so fucking much
>performative outrage at key cardsWhy does it matter?
>pokemon minecraftwhat were they thinking with this?
>trailer gives us more info about the game beyond the teaser along with a release date>no one even knows about any of this because when it turned out to be a gkc they just stopped caringEl-em-ay-oh
>>729526094just copying Dragon Quest again
>>729526094They need an excuse to sue Minecraft
>>729526562It's actually the same team behind Dragon Quest Builders 2.
What's the issue with key cards again? As long as the game is fun, why do you care? You're honestly going to skip on fun games just because you don't get to own a plastic case? I have so much anti-switch 2 hate fatigue, jesus christ
>>729525650Bingo.I refuse to buy any game that is a game key card.
>>729526632Doesn’t make it any less strange given that the DQB games are on switch as well and these games are just “DQB but pokemon.” Why not just do DQB3? And for that matter, whatever happened to original pokemon spinoffs like rangers or pokepark. Now it’s just them slapping the pokemon logo on whatever other game’s hot
>>729526706It gives you the worst experience possible. The game isn't on the cart, but it's required to be in the console to play the game. You paid for a digital only game that now requires a cart to play it.
>>729526006Why do you buy physical? Why do you buy digital? Think of the positives and negatives of each. Now combine JUST the negatives. That's game key cards.
>>729526706you're buying a license dependent on a network, abstracted by a glorified USB drive.
>>729524613same except my interest in a thread when the op is full of grammatical errors
>>729526706>the game isn’t actually on the cartridge, you still have to download the game which takes up internal storage>even with the game downloaded, you still need to put in the cart each and every single time you wanna play it. Even though it’s not on the cart, you need said cart to playLiterally the worse of both worlds. Download codes in a box sucked, but it didn’t hide what it was. GKC are nintendo pissing in your face and saying it’s raining
>inb4 it breaks record sales and /v/ autismos lose againNobody cares about keycards you retards.
Keycards aren't an issue because we're all just going to emulate it two weeks before it comes out anyway.There is absolutely no reason to pay for nintendo games.
>>729526706>buy game>insert game>download game, because the "cart" isn't playableof course, this is also how physical games have been for 10 yearsit's late, but pushback is good
>>729524613Its not supricing anon. Tendies know Nintendo shut down their servers off on all their consoles. They are tired of that shit now.New players on new consoles cant play their digital games when the servers are out. Same will go with key cards later.
>>729524613shut up anti gkcsnoy
>>729526916>>729526937To be fair you can resell the cards but unless you intend to play the game only once and get rid of it there's no point on buying this instead of digital.
>>729524613>he bought a switch 2
>>729526798because putting pokemon in it will guarantee it sells much better.
>>729526937Normies don't even know that, nor care.
>>729525954I do, too, but they had nothing to do with this game.
>>729527220>ESLEvery time
>>729526006>you see goy, you're just pretending to be mad that the cart is just a download codecope nintenbabby
>>729527289Okay Switch2Snoy.
>>729524613>Palfarm cloneGrim
>>729527459>normgroids don't care about getting scammed because they don't know they're getting scammedDid you know that people start caring once they find out?
>>729524613Key cards are a good idea if you're the type to play a game once and sell it, but for people who have no intention of selling their games it's an attack on ownership.
>>729524613So nothing at all changes since I was going to get it digitally?
Nintendosnoys still defending Jewtendo kek
>>729527625I don't even know why physical fags care to buy the thing at all. Modern games don't even have the manual or anything interesting going for it, you could just print the paper and put it on a $1 case and it would look the same.
>>729527740>nintendosnoysWhat
>>729526006>Performative outrageThis tendie must have opened a book recently
>>729527120you don't have to follow trends for normgroids, let them have their slopi do take an issue when games i like become enshittificated because of themmight as well stop consuming any and all series going this route, which is exactly what I'm doing
Tripster0 raped the Averagenintdrone.
>>729527816I couldn't tell you who it was at this point, but someone got insulted at being compared to a snoy that he began making fake nintendo-adjacent snoy comparisons, and now others do also do it because it's funny. I don't think it began with the "gamecubesnoys" disliking the switch, but that's one in particular I remember. Stuff like that.
>>729527765Well, in the case of the switch having physical carts with all the data on them helps cope with the fact that Nintendo is turbo stingy on adding internal storage to their consoles and that SD express cards are overpriced.
>>729526798>>729527387This isn't even the first time this specific thing has happened to a DQ spinoff. All the Wanderer/Mystery Dungeon games descend from the Torneko roguelike that spun out of DQ4. There is a Pokemon Mystery dungeon series. You most likely have a decent opinion of them.If/when Pokemon builders does well they'll probably make a Zelda one too as the only thing you need to swap is models.Easy money.
>>729528308I can already see Nintendo gimping their Switch 2 OLED with 256 gb of storage.
>>729528198Switch 2 shit eaters are the real snoys at this point. They want Nintendo to become Playstation. Which is exactly what's happening with the Switch 2.
>Buying an Animal Crossing clone physically You want to swap the cartridge in and out for your 15 minutes a day of play?
>>729527161You do not "download" a physical game on modern hardware. A true physical game has the entire game on cart/disc that is then copied from that physical storage to the device and it's internal storage. THIS REQUIRES NO INTERNET AND YOU CAN DO IT AT ANY TIME.Game key cards are keys that let you DOWNLOAD THE GAME FROM THE INTERNET.IT'S NEVER ON THE KEY CARD AT ALL.EVER. WITHOUT INTERNET THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
>>729524613what's even the point of key cardsif you made the cart just put the data on the cartif you don't want to then just sell it all digital
as a physicalchad with 400+ switch1 games I refuse to buy a Switch2 until they ban key cardsI'm just not going to spend energy having to investigate whether I'm buying an actual game or not, so I'm not buying shit at all, simple as
>>729528430>the people who want Nintendo to be successful are the real snoysWew, this keeps getting more and more schizophrenic every passing day
>>729528715Nintendo didn't produce small enough game cards initially so third parties literally all opted for this because it was cheaper to produce. There's been rumors and leaks that Nintendo is now attempting to produce smaller game cards, but given the sudden price surge in tech spaces it likely won't make things cheaper for publishers so they'll end up choosing game key cards for their physical releases anyway.
>>729526006One billion people will buy it -1
>>729528910bring back X-in-1 games
>>729528860Exactly. Nintendo fans want the Switch 2 to fail because the Swotch 2 goes against everything that a Nintendo console should be. Nintendo consoles need to be underpowered gimmicky crap that soccer moms buy into since the Wii.
It's going to be farmville wiislop
>>729525650same here, it's really not difficult to skip games out of principal if you're not a manchild
>>729526094yeah, why the fuck are they combining the succes of the two highest grossing franchises in gaming instead of making a new installment of my favorite indie video game クラブ・ニコルソン エクストリーム・スリープオーバー which was made 5000 years ago by two samurai brothers in an underground sewer system.
>>729528910If only the billion dollar pokemon industry could afford it :(
>>729524613>just buy physic-ACK!!!!
>>729525232>>729525650Neither of you own a Switch 2.
>>729529385I do, I bought it to play dong and kirby
>>729528375>pokemon spinoffs will just be “[x] but pokemon” without anything originalWhat grim state this franchise is in
>>729529385>defending BabyTranstendohttps://youtu.be/8A1b02qalTQ?t=1241
>>729526006>Why does it matter?I just spent 3 days downloading a game key card, personally. While it was going, I couldn't remove the cartridge to play anything else, so the console just sat there tying up the internet.
>>729529440They always have beenPokemon Nobunaga's AmbitionPokemon PicrossPokemon MtGYou just didn't notice because you were small child
>>729529484What a hilariously ironic reaction image to post while linking a fucking Jerma video you faggot
>>729529346They didn't become a billion dollar industry by leaving corners intact.
>>729524613This random low effort spinoff will sell 15 million copies
Every Nintendo system after a successful generation, they just coast and bomb.Really looking forward to next gen when they have to try again
>>729528670modern physical games have mandatory, day 1 updates, and some still require dpwnloading the entire gamedoes it matter that there is "some" data on the cartridge if there's no way to use it?
>>729529843>modern physical games have mandatory, day 1 updateslike what?
>>729527382Switch 2 is actually good though.
>>729529663you seem very upset
>>729529595>not having fiber in fucking 2025
>>729529843Good point, the only way to "own" games long after storefronts shut down is to pirate everything
>>729529913And you're mad because you're gay.
>>729529839Since when has this been the case?
>>729529839Nintendo should give up on hardware and publish on Steam. Next gen is either going to be cloud streaming or digital download only. And this assumes Consoles are less than $1000 next gen.
>>729526006Everything online about the Switch 2 is tied to fake outrage unfortunately.>>729526706There is no issue with the key cards outside of having to install the game into the internal memory space or microSD express card, which can understandably suck for games like FF7 remake that can take up 100GB. Although this is virtually no different from installing PS4 or PS5 games, including the part about needing Internet for the patches since you can't live without them for the fully intended experience, and the eventual post-release extra contents. Something that has been happening for the last 15 years anyway.the tl;dr is that if you see someone complaining about the key card, you can be 100% sure that this person is mentally insane and his opinion isn't worth anything.
>>729529929You'll be making a great case for an all digital future soon
>>729530059>it's okay when Sony does it
>>729529595Turn off IPV 6 nigga.
>>729530005At least since gamecubeNES - bestSNES - bestN64 - 2ndGC - lastWii - BestWii U - LastSwitch - BestSwitch 2 - still waiting for games
>>729530147That affects nothing, live too far from the data centers.
>>729524613the detail being that its a game in the pokemon IP
>>729530245>Buying digital in AntarcticaCatch up on some DOS games, my dude
>>729524613Does a game being a GKC even make that much of a difference in a game’s sales performance? Sucks if you play physical yea but if you're someone who plays digital (which a lot of people do) it makes no difference to you
>>729530062not being able to afford mid level tech is not really a good argument miguel
>>729530059>Although this is virtually no different from installing PS4 or PS5 gamesI recently got a PS5 and I was shocked at how much space is needed for physical games. SH2 remake needed 60gb to install.
>key cardI won't buy it anyways.
Nintendo is on their path to leave physical behind.They are already pushing digital in EU, with aggressive ads
>>729530283It's not about afford, it's about location. The argument is about how you just keep going forward into a seeming all digital future, and you're not even putting up the good fight.
>>729530395you are a tendie. you will.
>>729524613Cartridgesnoys are so transparent and obnoxious. Digital key cards are a very fair compromise between physical and digital. It’s literally a physical chip that you can sell to other people ffs, what more do you want? And you can’t say that Nintendo servers will go down, they won’t, you can still redownload Wii games you bought from the eshop 20 years ago if you want
>>729530349It's crazy isn't it? and that bozo will tell you different. Completely institutionalized.
>>729530282>Does a game being a GKC even make that much of a difference in a game’s sales performance?Yes, and a significant one at that. While a lot of people do buy digital, a lot (especially nintendo fans) also still buy physical, roughly half even. Even with those who do digital won’t buy out of principle knowing how important physical is. So when a game isn’t actually physical they not gonna buy it since it’s not real physical. You can look at any sales charts for proof, real physical games still preform well while fake physical games can’t even chart and are largely forgotten. Or how during the switch 2’s launch all the fake physical games underperformed significantly while CP2077 was the only one to do well. Hell it was even beating out nintendo’s own first party games on the eshop a few days back
>>729529440Why dont they get sued when they rip something off?
>>729530282Capcom considers GKCs digital sales so maybe?
It's really weird to see them pushing an outsourced pokemon spinoff like it's a major release. I remember back when these would come out without people even noticing.
>>729530493falseflagging snoy, boot licking faggot. It was shitty when Sony did it, and it's shitty when Nintendo dips their toes. Fucking kys
>>729526006>performativeYeah, we're performing the act of not buying the game.
>>729526006they are the same people who spend hundreds of dollars everytime Gaben throws a bunch of shitty deals on his "virtual licenses", total NPCs
>>729524613>You can lend keycards to other people and they'll be able to download and play the game as well>Internet connection is only required for the first boot, after that you can play offlineDoesn't sound that bad? Sure you need to buy a 1TB Sdcard if you don't want to cycle through games, if you're buying tons of games you should have money to buy a sdcard.Also like >>729530059 said needing to have storage even for physical games and day 1 patches has been a recurring thing for quite a while.
>>729530245Except that is what is recommended. Went from a day to one hour max.
>>729530505The only difference is that at least the PS5 disc doesn't need internet to download the game itself compared to a key-card, but if you somehow don't have an internet connection, then you're still missing out on all the patches, which for some games is pretty damn important.
>>729530548They spent a lot of money poaching the DQB people
>>729526706I always coped with digital releases because at least it meant I could boot up a game no matter what cart was in.This fucks up that one advantage.
>>729530617It's bad when all it fucking is is companies pushing the cost of storage off onto the customer. There's nothing good about this, if you defend it you are 1:1 a boot licking retard.
>>729525820Resellable digital game?
>>729529357>Nintendo is always dogshit no matter what Yikes
Goo goo ga ga pogeymawn minecwafd
>>729530617The problem on Switch 2 is that you can only use MicroSD Express cards for games. And right now even a 512 gig card is $80-$100+ dollars.
>>729530663idk which games it would be that important for, you're basically just insisting there's a few unfinished games; which I would point out maybe shouldn't even be purchased to begin with
>>729530467you wanna explain why the wii u flopped?
>>729530693No internet, no play.
>>729530548My guess is that they have a fairly anemic march so they’re pushing it as what’ll fill in the gap. Much like how they pushed SMG 1+2 for october despite them being ports, or AC:NH switch 2 edition for january despite it being an upgrade pack
>>729526006
yes daddy video game companies, I would love to buy game key cards, and fill up all the file space, and buy memory cards, you just count up that profit margin daddy!
>>729530858You download it once and as long as you have the card you can play the game, no? How many of you fucks would actually sell their steam games if they could? NFTs would work for something like this but no company will ever bother implementing this. It's a shit move to have no card with the game on it but it's the closest thing to resellable digital keys that exists right now.
>>729530903not reading all of that but I'm sorry it happened
What the fuck is wrong with having the key card? You have a download code that you can let people borrow or sell. How is that a bad thing? It is objectively superior to normal download licenses.
>>729530773The Switch 2 comes with a 256gb internal storage so unless you plan on adding a bunch of digital games most won't need it. Especially if they play Switch titles.
I don't think this is the end of the world cause it's an option, but why would you buy this over digital?It almost sounds like a functionality to accommodate for the dead video game rental market. But why? Those stores don't exist anymore.
>>729531039>NFTsstopped reading
>>729530207>N64 - 2ndThe Saturn outsold the N64 in Japan
>>729530858That isn't true. The encryption key is in the cartridge. How many fucking homes do you think have money and interest in a Switch 2 but no internet? You don't even need NSO.
>>729531107All it takes is like 5 or 6 game keycards to fill that.
Who are people selling the cards to? The two nearest gamestops fucking closed down, I don't even know where you guy used games anymore.
>>729524613I thought you were going to say ai
>>729525650You already have them 500$ dollars for their shit system and God knows how mich money for their retarded slop games. Dont fool yourself thinking youre boycotting them. Youre lining their pockets with money, youre enabling this shit.
>>729531115Physical has been important to Nintendo since they started in this business, retard kun.
>>729531123You don't need to tell me you're faggot I knew that already
>>729531173All it takes is going on a business trip for the weekend, if a game key card release comes out you ain't playing it even if you packed your Switch 2 to come along.
>>729525650This, I initially was surprised it was releasing then I saw it was a boot licker card and decided I already have it on 3DS, lost sale.
>>729531242It's not physical though.
>>729531107My internal storage was almost full when I transferred my Switch 1 library to Switch 2. I had to get a MicroSD Express card if I want to download more games.
>>729531185Walmart sells used games, touch grass.
>>729531183You'd just uninstall a game when not playing it. Their also alot smaller compared to downloading a 140gb PS5 game.
i'm always amazed at how consoleretards and other subhumans like to get fucked in the ass>have a pc>get a game(through steam, piracy, physical, whatever)>make a copy of said game to my backup>now i have a copy i can restore anytimehow can consolecattle live like this? serious question, please answer. you look like literal pig wallowing in mud to me
>>729530138>>it's okay when Sony does itXbox likely does the same but I couldn't care the less about that brand.My point is that the 'preversation fags', making a stance against the keycards, are a joke since console physical games are 90% of the time 'incomplete' (due of patches and DLCs) for the past 15 years and only a digital backup of all the files (which involve jailbreaking the system) is the true way of preservation. But that would deny the whole autistic debate about physical vs digital as neither option ultimately matter in the end. I do know physicalfags, especially collectors, are particularly against the true preservation thing.I have no doubts however if Valve or Sony were the first company introducing keycards, there wouldn't be nowhere the same amount of outrage like right now with Nintendo.
>>729531531
>>729531469Not where I live.
>>729531497Then you have to redownload them again, leading to uninstall reinstall tetris shit. Instead of just, having the god damn game on the god damn cart. Instead of owning a game you bought, you instead have to buy more memory cards or fart around in storage manager. All this, just so daddy game company has a better margin. Congrats on that boot licking.
>>729530596>a handful of grumps on a 22 year old message board are going to change how Nintendo operatesYou might have standards and integrity, but 99% of the world doesn't. Embrace the change or break out your cartridge games in protest.
>>729531531Games are always fucking complete on fucking Nintendo consoles.Fuck SnoysFuck xNiggersYou are the joke.
>>729526006>>729526706>>729527120>Its Okay When Nintendo Does It.
>>729530942weird non-argument. You use IA translation to "read" 4chan, don't you pajeet?
>>729524613Pokemon is not a small detail
>>729531686>You might have standards and integrity, but 99% of the world doesn't.You all should just kys, fucking waste of life.
>>729530684>if you defend it you are 1:1 a boot licking retardValve drones always did and Xbox/PS fanboys already accepted it.
>>729531808They should kill their selves. Fucking cancer.
>>729531731>IA
>>729531710>Games are always fucking complete on fucking Nintendo consoles.That's a flatout lie since the Switch 1 at the very least. I can only think of like ~5 games that entirely remain in version 1.00 post-release (Bravely Default 2, Earth Defense Force 4.1 and only three visual novels)Everything else needs at least one patch or several, nevermind the DLCs.
>>729529357People finding out the 3DS was designed around planned obsolescence, and it somehow resulting in the market prices going UP for the handhelds and games is fucking insane to watch happen in real time. It's even happening to Pokemon Sun and Moon apparently.
>>729531686but i don't care about how the fucking cattle livesi won't buy shit products designed to scam me, simple as, and no amount of retarded trick arguments will convince me otherwise
>>729531725Just download the ROM and own the game forever.It's that simple.
>>729529357>there is a Discord group to defend this company on /v/.Let that sink in.
>>729532027>he thinks its a nintendo only issuedisk rot is a thing too, you know
>>729532051>I'll show the multi-billion dollar company by costing them literally dozens of dollars in lost revenue. My integrity is intact.How's your AVGN room coming along? Will you invite other grandpas over to play some physical games?
>>729531307>w-w-w-well what about this extremely niche scenario that almost never happens? THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS LE BAD BECAUSE OF ITseething snoy
Is 'performative' the new grifting term?
>>729529385true, thanks for the kind words.
>>729532558absolutely, my integrity is intact. i udnerstand how a corporate bootlicker wouldn't understand it, but it's not my problem.>How's your AVGN room coming along? don't have one and never will, but you can suck my dick as a reward for trying to be an insufferable faggot
>>729532532The individual carts flash memory is degrading at an alarming rate even compared to disk rot. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon aren't even a decade old and it's one of the most common cases people are noticing.
>Fallout 76 has a cardboard disc with a download code as it's "physical" version>everyone on the planet collective shits on it>Pokopia has an empty plastic cart with a download code as it's "physical" version>ERM YOU'LL BUY IT ANYWAY. IT'S NOT THAT BAD. STEAM EXISTS THAT IS ALL DIGITAL. WHY DOES IT MATTER? STOP NOTICING!
>>729531307Just play other games, you have more than 1 game, right?
>>729532820Keycards aren't download codes though
>>729532820download code that you can share between systems and even resell.It's not a 1:1 comparison.
>>729527220>Nintendo shut down their servers off on all their consolesHuh? Never happened, you can still redownload your Wii eshop purchases 19 years after it launched.
>>729532957i don't give a fuck if it's a 1:1 comparison, it's not physical because the data IS NOT FUCKING THERE. shittendo can suck my fucking dick, don't give a fuck i can resell a fucking piece of plastic you retarded monkey nigger, it's not physical and never will be
>>729524613Nintendo is slowly conditioning its userbase toward cloud gaming. As soon as it becomes a viable alternative they'll jump ship and then there will be no ROMs, no piracy, and (You) will own absolutely nothing. And the best part is you'll still have people defending them.
>>729533292keycards are still physicals no matter what, the data being there or not is entirely irrelevant.
>>729524613What >>729527695 said. This is the kind of game like Animal Crossing or Splatoon that's better to have digitally so you can go into it whenever.
>so assmad he made a thread about it>>729533198
>>729533386>the data being there or not is entirely irrelevant.oh okay, wasn't aware i was speaking to a special needs child
>>729530532A lot of the time these "X but pokemon" games are developed by the same people that made the original games anyway. Gamefreak themselves really only makes the main series titles. Even the Stadium games were developed by HAL.
>>729524613They already shut everything down on the Wii and that system isn't even 20 years old. Console games are either physical or shouldn't be bought at all. Anyone that buys a key card game is a fucking retard so that does mean tendies will buy it sadly.
>>729530693This. Key cards aren't ideal, but they are a much better alternative to single use download codes. Most Playstation and Xbox discs have been nothing but license keys for the past 12 years.
Man the famitsu threads have really made tendies even more cultish than before. Years ago tendies would just not buy shit games like other m and federation force but now they happily eat shit like prime 4 and would tell you how love they love eating shit.
>>729524613>still playing new pokemonokay why
>>729533089https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3764/~/how-to-redownload-wii-shop-channel-content-on-wii
>>729525232>>729525650yeah lol
Cope, dumbfucks. With the current state of flash memory, devs are basically gonna be stuck using key cards unless you want to pay an extra $20+tip per game.
Unironically what is wrong with game key cards?
>>729534085I think the ones that actually like good games stopped being tendies. What's left are these schizo retards with a bunch of gay Discord servers.
>>729524613I have "key-card outrage fatigue" just like I have "gen-ai outrage fatigue"You're all complaining about the most meaningless inane shit and its exhausting
>>729527136No you're not, it's a Switch 2 game.
>>729534441They're just kind of a weird, middle of the road option that doesn't really have enough pros to justify it. It's not the most evil thing ever like some people are saying.
I, BITCHachu-sama, mascot of the HIGHEST-GROSSING FRANCHISE and JOBBER of the vidya industry humbly kneel to:Shuntaro Furukawa-sama, former employee of TPC, current Nintendo CEO, and my master.TPC-sama, my one and only true love and other master.Atlus-sama, who I shamelessly ripped off via SMT for my gameplay only for them to strike back with CHADsona.Palworld-sama, who my daddy Furukawa warned me about.Enix-sama, who easily manhandled me with Dragon Quest Monsters.Yugi Muto and Kazuki Takahashi-sama, who anally raped me and first awakened my wish to become a TCG and merchandising franchise first and foremost.Junichi Masuda-sama, who argued with me and his employees at GameFreak so hard, his departure started to cause the quality of my games to decrease and got me attracted to MEN...Squaresoft-sama, whose incomparabily soulful JRPGs in the 90s crushed my ass-womb entirely to the point I STILL cannot SUPRASS them, even 22 years after merging with Enix-sama.Bamco-sama, whose hour-long beatings from the recent Digimon gamed gave me uncontrollable orgasms so massive even the anal rape from Furukawa-sama can't compare.Itoi-sama, for his Mother Trilogy is the superior JRPG series of my Nintendo MASTERS, and has single-handedly inspired more Indie RPGs than even I have...Level-5-sama, whose power I am scared of (I am glad they stopped making Yokai Watch and didn't kill my beloved masters, as I was too scared to help them…)Sandfall-sama, who revenge-raped and mindbroke me and my fanbase via E33 from the sheer pleasure of being made into an onahole after Legends Z-A FLOPPED in France. (I was so sad about it...)and finally, Monolithsoft-sama, for they will FUCK ME up on the world stage once they release their Zelda RPG and expose me and GameFreak for the frauds we are. (God I hope so…)
>>729532558>the only reference to physical media zoomers have is through AVGNholy grim
>>729529843False information.You do not need day 1 updates to play a game.You do indeed need a "system update" to play titles that will be released during that update cycle, but on systems like PS5 you can download that update to a USB and them manually update the system with that USB, and then all physical games in that update period will be playable.By the end of the PS5's lifecycle, for example, if you download and make copies of it's final update for that system, you can be completely offline. Zero Internet at all.Purchase a PS5 with an old firmware update. Manually update it via that USB.No online at all.And any and all physical games that ever came out for PS5 are fully playable on the system so long as the full games themselves are on disc.You cannot do the same with the Switch 2 and it's game key cards. You have no such freedom at all there without modding.
>>729534984NTA, where do you get the update
>>729534441>concern trolling for the nth time this thread
>>729532558>zoomers actually think owning physical media is a bad thingFucking brainwashed retards holy shit.
>>729534984>but on systems like PS5 you can download that update to a USB and them manually update the system with that USBThat's nice that they give you the option, but you're still going to need the internet to download the update onto your computer/usb. Seems like extra steps.
>>729529385I do and I'm not buying any key card games. Put it on a cartridge or put it on the eshop for $40.
>>729526706Ignore the retards complaining about keeping the cart inside, the real problem is that since you have to download it, it takes space in the internal memory/microSD. Normal cards always had this advantage, so you have to take that into account when buying key cards. Also it makes the devs look cheap.
>>729531307Then just download it before you leave? Or when you're sitting at the airport, or your hotel. Unless you're going on a trip to a village in the middle of Africa it's incredibly unlikely that there isn't a Wi-Fi hotspot you can connect to.Online requirements suck for preservation and should be shamed for that reason alone, which is why I don't get why people make up scenarios where they have no internet connection for an extended period of time yet are still able to buy new games.
>>729531106I buy physical to preserve space on my consoles. Game-key cards are digital downloads with a plastic download link. So I won't buy them.
I like physical lets get that outta the waybut why would anyone want keycard instead of digital?
>>729535521So you can let people borrow it or resell it.
>>729531307>can't play game for 2 days in the unlikely scenario that you already own a switch 2 and own zero games, and are going on a business trip on the exact weekend that a new game comes outoh no I wont be able to play pokopia for two whole days, what if the entire online community for that game dies before I get home on sunday night.
>>729535381>>729535573>unlikely scenariokek, touch grass
>>729532604yes, entire systems are bad because of the outliers they produce. retard. Welcome, to life.
>>729535863In this scenario, someone is going out of town for the weekend. Buys the game while they are out of town. And then they don't have access to wifi. Where would you be staying that you don't have access to wifi?
>>729532019Patches don't fucking count, you disingenuous turd. Nintendo games aren't your early access shit that adds content you paid for in advance.
>>729525650*buys games on steam*
>>729529649Zoom zoom.
>>729535994one google search, this is not unlikely
>>729535863When was the last time you had no internet access for more than a few hours? Most people carry a phone that double as a mobile hotspot with them 24 hours a day, and even trans-oceanic flights have Wi-Fi these days.
I bet Nintendo higher ups are going to choke slam the koei kikes and square Semites next time they see them for sabotaging a Pokémon game with key carts when they know it drastically impacts sales
>>729536082If you're going on a business trip like in the original example, they will be paying for you to stay in a hotel. Even cheap hotels have wifi.
>>729536012>Ignores the fact they released Mario Kart World with content missing.
Emulation has never been a problem with Nintendo devices save for N64, I do like my switch physical collection but making some preservationist argument about physical is kind of dumb at this point. You own it more by having the rom than you do having a physical cartridge
>>729535558but physical does that...
>>729536237No shit, we're talking about the difference between key cards and digital.
>>729536089Personally, last year when it went out for a month straight. But we won't count that? we wont count anything? it's all just speculative unlikely scenarios? scenarios that do happen? to me, to others, google it? Yeah when you handwave all the bullshit away, everything, absolutely everything looks fucking perfect. kys
>>729526618kek
The same people who defend game key cards, see no problem in the always online games on PC either. Zoomers, they don't remember when Starcraft 2 came out, and during a lan event that was being live streamed the internet cut out, ending the match to an audience of hundreds of thousands. A Lan Party, a feature of games where you directly plug PC's into one another, requires no internet. A Lan Party, rendered moot by the mere fact Starcraft 2 was released always online. Zoomers
>>729536553So you had no internet for a month, yet were still able to buy games from a local game store, while also not being able to find a restaurant, cafe, etc. with an open Wi-Fi hotspot you could bring your portable console to?
>>729527092>but it didn’t hide what it was.Neither is this. You're actually TRYING to be retarded.
The Japanese are a subservient species and will still buy it.
>>729536089If this has happened to you or any of the other bullshitters in this thread, you're probably poor and live in a place where most people are brown and don't wear shoes. If that's the case, you really shouldn't be spending money on expensive vidya anyway. If your cell phone service genuinely went down for a month as you claim, what's more likely is that you just didn't pay your bill for a month, because cell service going down for an entire month for ANY provider anywhere in the world would have at least have some kind of news articles about it.
>>729529886KH3 famously left its ending off the disc so it wouldn't be leaked early, Skate 2 iirc had the tutorial on disc and the rest of the game had to be downloaded, Spyro remake only had the first game on the cartridge
The Switch 2 conundrum is that game key carts are worthless and you should just buy digitally instead so you're not cucked into having to put the cart in . But the storage space is small as fuck and the price of the the memory cards are still pretty nuts because it's a newish form factor.
>>729536553I think that games should not require internet to play in any capacity simply out of principal, but I just want you to know that you type like a faggot.
>>729524613You will own nothing and be happy! : )
even if you have a physical card, it doesn't have the gigabytes of updates and post release stuff almost all games have now. The only true ownership is piracy, otherwise half of it is living on some server anyway Stop filling your house with trash and buy hard drives
>>729537137The real problem is pricing key cards and digital downloads the same as physical games.
>>729527092the physical cases that they come in mention whether or not they are key card games on the cover of the box. if you do not read this or choose to ignore it, that is your fault. they are not hiding the fact that they are key cards to anybody who isn't a complete retard.
>>729529595>I'm brown and poorRiveting.
>>729537225The game key cart prices have been dropping down to $30 or less already for third party games. But everything being the same price day 1 is dumb, yeah.
>>729530273Basadiño
>>729537237They are at Wal-mart. The banners are tall enough to just hide the GKC information. You have to ask someone to take it out of the case and look at it. Most moms aren't going to bother to look.
>>729530825Poor marketing for normalfags, only autists understood it was a new console
>>729537225Well that's something that's likely never going to change, so faulting nintendo for that specifically is pointless.
>>729524613It's funny, Switch was everything I wanted in a video game console when they revealed it and they've done so fucking much to bungle its successor that it's baffling.
>>729525650why did you buy a switch 2 if you knew this was how it's going to be? are you retarded? falseflagging?
>>729524613seeing people defend the keycards with the repeated quote of "performative outrage" in multitudes has shown me that yes, shills still existhow about you shut the fuck up and let people say a product is shit and you don't bend over backwards trying to convince everyone around you that the new product is exactly the same as the old product, when it clearly fucking isn't
>>729524613
>>729530527>Even with those who do digital won’t buy out of principle knowing how important physical is.You're so stupid it hurts.
>>729537378>Most moms aren't going to bother to look.In this particular situation, the kid is also not likely to care or even be aware of the key card situation. Anybody who this concerns is already aware of it, and as I said, they are a retard if they buy it anyway without knowing and get mad about it later. If you're aware of a problem and do nothing to circumvent it, it's entirely on you.
>literally the worst of both formats>tendies are actually defending it
>>729537204I love the owning of the nothing and happy!
I genuinely don't understand where all the anger of key cards is coming from. They aren't a one-time code, you can still lend them and sell them like you would any other game. It's not great that it takes up system space for the download, but I wouldn't think that by itself would be enough to cause this much of a shitstorm around them. Not when this well has been poisoned for a decade now with other systems needing to install additional files for disks.
>>729537601>I am a giga retard, I suck as many cocks as I can, I literally cannot comprehend the simplest of matters, please insert cock into mouth
>>729537508We knew about the key cards before the thing even came out. Anybody who bought the console anyway doesn't get to complain about this shit.
>>729530548>without people even noticing.Now take a few seconds to think about why they'd change their marketing strategy after that.
>>729530283>affordNTA but I can afford fiber just fine. My ISP just refuses to run a cable an extra 1000 feet from the backbone that runs right by my house because it's already wired for copper service and they'd make no money from upgrading the line. Meanwhile the new housing development a block down the road has multi-gigabit fiber.
>>729537523I do my best to spread awareness of game key cards as to prevent as many people from buying them. Though if the game key cards go on sale at bargain bin prices it "might" be worth it then.
>>729527695>$70 for a "digital licence"State of (You)
>>729537601Because if you don't sell them, it's extra steps for the same thing as digital and it's a waste of a product that could have been something more useful. It exists so parents and grandparents can buy their kid a game off the shelf.
>>729531107Anon, like 90% of S2's library is digital and key card only. It's fucked.>>729531127>in JapanNow tell me which console bombed so hard it killed its successor and took its company out of the console race entirely.
>>7295305273rd party titles on the switch makes zero sense
>>729537540>It's okay when Valve does it.>It's okay when Sony does it.>It's okay when Microsoft does it.>It's only NOT OKAY when Nintendo does it.
Imagine buying a game key card, lmao
>>729537941>I've bent over and been raped by everyone, how is it not ok this time??
>>729531514>have a pcHold up>have to download everything because nothing is physicalAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>729537941the switch has a 256gb ssd instead of an 800gb or 1tb one so yeah, it is worse. your odds of having to buy something extra for storage are much higher.
>>729531710>Games are always fucking complete on fucking Nintendo consoles.Nobody:Kirby Star Allies: *adds half the game in after launch*
>>729531531>>729531592It's because people expected Nintendo to be better since they're usually the more respectable and less predatory of the three.
>>729525650I work with a couple nitnendo manchildren who bought switch 2s on release day and gladly bought $70 games without hesitation, but even they refuse to buy key cards. They want actual physical cartridges and if they can't get them, they just wait it out.
>>729538107Nintendo's is literally portable.>b-butValve has the same or less space for a higher price. Get fucked.
>>729538118I'm more concerned about the outrageously expensive things they add as DLC less than a month after release, which just tells me they were basically already complete on launch and they just didn't include them for no reason. Why was that donkey kong shit $20 for what was basically just a boring mini game you'd find in any other game?
How mad will /v/ be when the game sells millions and millions of copies again, proving that nobody cares?
>>729538289That's crazy! Two whole fans that may or may not exist...wow!
>>729529357My copy of Mega Man Legacy crashes whenever I try to play 4 or the museum
>>729532558>hear a dripping sound coming from the wallAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T I INVEST IN DIGITAL AAAAAAHHHHHH*blub blub blub*
>>729538351>NPCs will eat ze sloppa againWhy would anyone be mad at that?
>>729534557>You're all complaining about the most meaningless inane shitThe irony.
>>729534804Yet pokemon sells more than all of those.
>>729538585>It's only slop if people buy games I don't like.You will survive.
>>729538754Except Z-A, who sold less than Palworld.
why are game freak so incompetent
It was over the moment ethernet ports were removed.
>>729538893Why put effort and resources on a product that retards will eat anyway?
>>729537775exactly so why are hobbyists trying to buy games like they're a clueless grandma?
>>729538893>>729539045Why did you mention Gamefreak? They aren't developing this game.
>>729536146>I bet Nintendo higher ups are going to choke slam the koei kikes and square Semites next time they see them using the very system Nintendo came up with and promotedProbably not
>B-But you can resell them!To who? LMAO
>>729536553It doesn't count because poor people like you shouldn't be into a hobby where the consoles cost upwards of $500 and the games cost upwards of $70.
>>729536796>online games.....................are onlineWHOA NO WAY
>>729537414You're right, it's ok when Nintendo does it. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>729539371>It's only NOT okay when Nintendo does it!!!Call down, ma'an
>>729538305valve lets you put a whole ass ssd in it and those are way cheaper than a micro sd express card.
>>729526006because the DRM servers for the key cards will eventually shut down and even if you get a used copy of the game key card, there is no game data actually in the card, so you're fucked (unless Switch 2s get hacked and can load games with exploits eventually).
>>729539198Maybe if they pretend they're not shit online for long enough they can trick some sucker into holding their bags.
>>729539093answer the question
>>729539371How the fuck did you even get that out of what he said?
>>729526006If you can't relate to outrage, it has to be fake, right?
>>729539826>the DRM servers for the key cards will eventually shut downPossibly, but you can STILL download Wii games as long as you owned them before the eshop shut down.
>>729525232>>729525650>>729526708Meanwhile, you will buy all your games from Lord GabeN on Steam because you consider it a charitable donation to the PC Master Race Movement, am I right?
FYI the game is developed by Omega Force in Koei Tecmo. I'm pretty sure the reason for game key card release is an order from The Pokemon Company. The game is only 10 gigabytes. And KT released Age of Imprisonment on a full gamecard. Unless there's a technical reason I don't see the reason for a $70 GKC.
>>729539198LOOOOL! THIS IS FUNNY BECAUSE NO ONE BOUGHT A SWITCH 2, AM I RIGHT MY FELLOW GAMERS?!
>>729530825Why do tendies use the Wii U to try and mask their cultish behavior? Just straight up ignore the 13 years of tendies acting like the fanatical cultists they are by mentioning something that happened a decade and a half ago.
>>729540219>I'm pretty sure the reason for game key card release is an order from The Pokemon Companymore gamefreak incompetence
>>729537126>Skate 2 iirc had the tutorial on disc and the rest of the game had to be downloadednow that can't be true
>>729537601I think it's hated because it's a definitive sign of how far things have gone. It's so bad that this shit is seen as almost an upgrade, but only because standards are lower than believably possible.
>>729538324The DK DLC isn't worth getting, so what does it matter.
>NOOOOOOOO NINTENDO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUTTFUCK YOU>ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES BUTTFUCKED ME ALREADYthanks for clearing that up
>>729540103If I wanted digital, I'll buy digital.Fake physical cards for the convenience of Nintendo is not something I'm paying for.
>tendies: our friends won't release their first party games on the key cards so of course we can defend it>also tendies: It's okay when Nintendo uses the key cards to release their gameslollmao>>729538324Because Nintendo knows their cultists will buy and defend anything they put out, including cut content like fetus game and the $30 day one disc locked content for Metroid.
>>729540460Exactly, it wasn't worth getting even for $5, let alone 20, and it really should have either been part of the final game, or a free update. Games that are exclusively single player can not realistically justify paid DLC.
>>729540592It's fine for a game to have extra content, it's fine if you don't want it. This notion that everything needs to be given to you is not a good one.
>>729540929I hope Miyamoto see's this lil bro
>>729540460That's the fucking point? It's not worth $20. It IS worth being in the fucking base game, there's no reason it should cost anything.
>>729541183>That's the fucking point?then drop it, your point is retarded. you don't even want the DLC. congrats, you don't get to have it.
>>729540391My bad, it was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5. Knew it was a skateboarding game.
>>729541097>see'sYou're brown and you're complaining because you're poor.
>>729540929You make it sound like they finished the game but added more content thereafter. In reality they finished the game but removed some of the content to sell later
>>729542871oof, THPS5 sounds right, I now remember that.
>>729543076>You make it sound like they finished the game but added more content thereafter.They literally did that. You guys literally want it for free. You literally don't want it enough to pay for. I cannot wrap my head around that juxtaposition, where you can paradoxically think something isn't worth buying, but you want it for free too.
>>729524613>they had to release a new video damage controlling the key carts with the release date for this gameThey are very well aware that most people despise it.
>>729542965You're defending a company whose hardware you don't even own against someone who does.Peak cultist mentality. I hope you get better.
>>729543224and it's retarded to think that something that isn't worth buying wouldn't have any value at all if it was free.
>value free
>>729526006>>729530059>Have to download the game before you can play it>Have to waste half the space on the SSD on the game instead of it being, you know, on the cart>When the servers go down for the console, the key card is a useless piece of plastic while all the real physical games can still be playedRetards. Fucking retards.
>>729544268>>When the servers go down for the console, the key card is a useless piece of plastic while all the real physical games can still be playedYou can still download Wii games as long as you own them. This has yet to prove to be a problem for nintendo games.
>>729526006It's inherently retarded for the reason people buy physical>I want to be able to play a game straight out of the box without any internet/download required>I want to loan a game to my friend for him to try>I want to buy a used game years down the line at a much cheaper priceGame-Key cards kill all of this.
>>729524613It's gonna sell anyway.
>>729544878>server eoses
Discs used to have free demos and sometimes full games in it, now buy this 70 usd keycard, and punch in the code, then play your slop. Gamers has less rights than dogs.
>>729545551>>729530527
>>729546169it's amazing how there are still people who think these cards are one time use download codes and for some reason act like they know what they're talking about
>>729530420There is a product for people like that and it's the Switch One.
>>729525650>bought a 500 dollar console>but keycards are le boogeymanRetard. Way to give money to Daddy Nintendo, faggot queernigger
>>729525650I don't understand the point of key carts. It just sounds like e-waste. You can just get the download version from the comfort of your home and have the same DRM rights and the same accessibility as a key cart version.It's like a proposition that only exist to fulfill people who don't have internet access but even then it fails because you still have to download the game, so I don't know what the fuck niche it is filling.
>>729547263I agree they're stupid and pointless, but I have a hard time imagining anyone who owns a switch 2 not having internet access. They're not exactly cheap.
>>729546682it's only a hundred more than the Xbox 360 was
>>729527309the resell value is basically 0 because they have an expiration date
>>729546305It's Pokémon, Pokémon always sells.
>>729548554Proof that Switch 2 carts have this problem? 3DS carts having this problem is not proof.
>>729548554but most cartridges are dead in the graded box, the battery doesn't just die it leaks.
>>729525650Same. I just either skipped them or went for the PS5 version. I wanted Fatal Frame 2 next year on Switch 2 but after seeing it’s on a Jew card I’ve decided to get that on PS5 too.
>>729540024What’s the logic with this? Why keep the servers up for downloads but yank your ability to collect revenue off said servers?
>>729525650this is probably the first thread in a while that i'm beginning to see a fracture in SW2 ownersfwiw, im on the side that hates keycards, i refuse to buy them too, i understand that nintendos testing the waters with a pokemon release but i'll be observing this release for now, yoshis supposed to be out in spring too but im sure that will be on a physical cart
>>729549179so people move onto the new shiny expensive thing instead of buying old cheap games
>>729549179I don't know the exact reasoning, other than the idea that they're legally required to keep a product available for anybody who purchased it. They no longer have to process payments or anything and the bandwidth must be so low at this point that it isn't really costing them anything to keep it running. That, or they just want people to buy their newer products instead of the older ones.
i could not imagine giving any sort of a shit about keycards. where were you retards a decade ago when the ps4/xbone started doing the exact same thing
>>729549485people bitched about it, but it was largely ignored because it wasn't nintendo. half of the people in this thread bitching either don't even own a switch 2 or don't buy nintendo at all.
>>729549485>where were you retards a decade ago when the ps4/xbone started doing the exact same thingNot buying PS4/Xbone games that did that.
>>729549485People complained then too, but as time went on we’ve grown to accept it. Just that now that it’s happening with nintendo they’re now going through that same phaseSame reason there was an uproar over NSO despite sony and microsoft doing the same years ago and nintendo charging only 1/3 of the price
>>729549485>where were you retards a decade ago when the ps4/xbone started doing the exact same thingwhere do you retards come from, I jumped fucking ship to PC. at the very least it's steeped in PC culture with the advent of internet, which you don't have to pay for to play games I might add. I fought the good fight I did what needed to be done.
>>729547263>It's like a proposition that only exist to fulfill people who don't have internet access but even then it fails because you still have to download the gameIt's basically nintendo completely misunderstanding why people want cards for their games, basically giving into the developers' wishes of cheap cards they can buy for like 1 or 2$, it's also a problem of their own doing, because if they had made 8gb cards that costed like 5$ they wouldn't have found themselves in this dichotomy.
>>729524613Why would someone want to buy life sim game physically anyway? You would have to take it in and out every fucking day.I would never buy Animal Crossing or Sims physically if I could avoid it.
Pokemon cattle and stupid Animal crossing femroids will buy it anyway.
>>729550374So, just put the game in and out as needed.
>>729526006The same reason people want ass pats for announcing they are refusing to buy a Switch 2 until Nintendo improves and then immediately folding
Probably wasn't going to buy it anyways but definitely not getting it now.
>>729524613The game also looks like shit, playing PalFarm instead
>>729526006Why rent a key card instead of a digital download?
Games released only on keycards will become lost media. Nintendo loves lost media.
>>729553636as soon as Switch 2 gets hacked they'll get dumped all the same, online only (satellite only) games aren't really comparable unless somehow Nintendo manages to avoid all attempts to crack the console
>>729548554So do regular Switch 2 carts and every 3DS Switch 1 cart since they're flash memory and will degrade.https://gbatemp.net/threads/corrupted-cartridge-fixer-release.628539/3DS carts are already starting to go, meaning that ironically digital copies of 3DS games are outliving their physical counterparts since the 3DS and even the Wii's servers are still up.
>>729524613>digital version, and>digital version plus some plastic
>>729553636>Games released only on keycards will become lost media.You do understand that once the data is downloaded it remains on your SD card/internal memory right? And that users can easily back said data up?Unironically it's more likely that key cards will outlive regular Switch 2 cards due to the flash memory degrading/corrupting over time and becoming unreadable.
>>729556217>users can easily back said data upShow me how to recover that "backup" when my Switch 2 dies and I have a new one, but the Nintendo network isn't available.
>>729556557Considering the original Wii's server is still up nearly 20 years later I highly doubt you have much to worry about.Imagine 20+ years from now. Do you really think you'll still be playing on an unmodded Switch 2 or that emulation won't be widely available at that point if Nintendo does somehow go under and takes the server with them? You might not even be alive yourself in 20+ years.
>>729531307this nigger on his "business trip for the weekend (2 days)" on an african village who hasnt even discovered fire (thus no internet, the villagers also shot down all satellites orbiting their area because theyre very skilled with their wooden bows and arrows) will go to the village's nearest gamestop mud hut (after fighting the wildlife on his way there), buy his shitendo game and then lose his mind after realizing that he cant download his new pokeman gamealright then
>>729540103Yep, will buy on Steam but will never EVER buy goy key cards, suck it and cope, you double nigger.
>>729540024No you can't. They closed the servers a few years ago, there was a massive effort to archive everything.
>>729557501That was the purchasing side of things anon, you can still download games that you bought.
>>729557501https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3764/~/how-to-redownload-wii-shop-channel-content-on-wiiThe server is still up to redownload your purchased games. You can't play online, use online features, or purchase new games though.The "massive effort to archive everything" you're talking about was The Completionist being a total retard/grifter by buying the entire library before purchases were disabled, despite everything having already been archived through piracy.
>>729526006Key Card is, quite literally, the publisher admitting that the game they are releasing isnt worth high cost of development. Setting aside all perception and breaking everything down into basic numbers, it is the publisher saying that they want the pricetag of a 60$ game without putting in the production costs of a 60$ game. It means that they are willing to sell you a lesser product at full price.What does this predict for the development and quality of the game?
>>729557108>emulation won't be widely availableWill it? What if these companies actually get competent enough to protect their consoles? I think PS4 emulation is in a pretty shit state right now. Hell, even PS3 emulation sucks. If we're being realistic, PS2 and N64 emulation has tons of graphical issues.
>>729558169Who knows, the point was that 20+ years into the future is a long time. Who's to say that the Switch 4 won't be backwards compatible with older games or that the previous gen at that point, the Switch 3, wasn't? Moving past console modding/emulation, there's also decomp projects for games.
>>729547263>have the same DRM rightsYou can't resell digital games.You can resell key cards.
>>729527092>piss analogy
>>729527765i always bought physical on switch because then i didn't need to buy more storage ever, it was cheaper
>>729553064Based, same
>>729526706It's the worst of both worlds:>The cart must be inserted to play>The game eats up your (paltry) internal memory instead of just running off the cart>Need internet to auth and download the game>Banned system is completely unable to use the keycard>When ninty inevitably kills off support, card is 100% uselessThe fact that some "limited edition" SKUs dare to use fucking GKCs is insane.
>>729531531Sony at the very least lets you copy installed game data (with updates) to an USB drive, and you can use that on any system. This is a way to preserve your games (P.T. lives thanks to this)
>>729558762>Who's to say that the Switch 4 won't be backwards compatible with older games or that the previous gen at that point, the Switch 3, wasn't?Nintendo, because they can get retarded fucking faggots to buy the same game 30 times if they release "HerD" versions instead. Hell, by that point they might even switch to a rent model where you rent a game for 30 dollars and get to play it for a month.
GKC aside, what are people’s thoughts on the game so far? We got a whole bunch of new info yet i’ve not heard a single thing about any of it
>>729562828It's just Pokemon flavored Dragon Quest Builders from what we've seen, which means it'll be enjoyable, but I don't think I'll pay $70 for it
>one of the biggest arguments in favor of GKC is "you can resell it"So the games are shit, and aren't worth keeping?
>>729563092>if you resell anything you own, that means it's shitRetard.
>>729563247If something not being resellable is a deal breaker, then yeah maybe the game is shit.
>>729563335It's good to let people have that option, for any reason.
>>729563424That's only because of the primitive nature of consoles. Because of the restrictions and limitations on hardware, companies can encourage scarcity. I'd rather a game be incapable of being resold, then have it cost 500 bucks on amazon because some jackass bought all the copies and upped the price.
>>729563557>I'm in favor of taking options away from people to own muh scalpersI think you should kill yourself.
Oblivion Remastered Physical Edition only has the intro sewers in it. You have to dwnload the rest. I guess it functions like a game key card
>>729563618If physical games also came with digital copies you could infinitely copy and keep across multiple console generations, then you wouldn't need to resell them.
>>729536059Steam is a storefront that isn't tied to the lifespan of a specific console. A more appropriate criticism would be to point at the people who bought 3DS games on volatile flash memory that are just now starting to become corrupted.
>>729563675Retarded goycattle. This is my last (You), btw.
>>729543712I hope you get less lazy so you can get a real job and start affording things.
>>729546169>Gamers hasPoor. Brown. Et cetera.
>>729524613I mean, for me, I just lost interest when I learned it's literally just a slight reskin of DQB.
>>729548387>inflation doesn't exist
>>729549179>why not let users buy more games they can own forever instead of forcing them to resort to the evergreen rental slop?
>>729526006This is the kind of faggot that goes into every discussion critical of an upcoming release and says "You know we're all going to buy it anyways"
>>729558064Not every game needs to be the best thing ever.
>>729565029they're a slave posting hundreds of times an hour in a third world shill farmthe proper response is pity, not scorn
>>729559547Damn, that sucks....hey, random thought, ummm.... Try to sell one of your eShop downloads. Oh...you can't? Huh. Oh! You know what, I think you can actually sell those key card games once you're done with them! Crazy, huh?
>>729565042If youre making shovelware, and you know its shovelware, and you are producing and shipping it as shovelware, price it as shovelware. The inflated price of this second-rate game prevented me from purchasing it for 40$.
>>729565029Feeling called out?
>>729526618lol
>>729565251>price it as shovelware"No!"
>>729526706>You're honestly going to skip on fun games just because you don't get to own a plastic case? No, but I'm not paying for it.
>>729524613I would've bought Sonic x Shadow Gens on Switch 2 if it wasn't on a fucking KeyCard. I've only bought DK Banaza and Kirby Air Riders physically. It's sad seeing Nintendo turn away doing KeyCards as they've arguably been the most committed to physical games releases up until this point. Nintendo is still the only company to not release a digital only system.
>>729530903Imagine being so assmad to make this
>>729565162>you can sell those key card gamesBut why would I?
>>729538351irl nobody knows or care about nintendo or it's salesi didn't know a new pokemon game is coming out until i saw this thread.
>>729565614Because only an autist replays games over and over instead of playing new games or no games.
>>729565868>games should be disposable goyslop that you throw away after playing them once
Tendies are getting worried that the Switch 2 isn't the success the Switch 1 is.
GENUINELY this is a "vote with your wallet" type issue. Don't buy this shit, and tell Nintendo loudly that you're not buying it.There's a lot of things you can't fix about Nintendo just through purchasing power, but this is one thing you can, because some games are still doing actual physical copies. Key cards are a practice that can be discontinued if there's enough outrage and profit loss. It should be considered the kiss of death for a game.
>>729530903Why are modern Nintendo fans so cringe?Even Wii U fans weren't like this.
>>729566032Always were. They're toys.
>>729526006>performative retardation
>>729529385It's a hell of a good reason not to
>>729559126Until the switch 2 store shuts down
>>729525232>Card Key
>>729565029>goes into every discussion critical of an upcoming release and says "You know we're all going to buy it anyways"And he's not wrong.
>>729527092>the game isn’t actually on the cartridge, you still have to download the game which takes up internal storagereminder that sony and ms have been doing this with literally every game for the last 2 gens
>>729563335>Steamholme Syndromeyou hate to see it get this bad.
>>729569472Why would you want to sell a game that you love so much, that you replay it every year? Seems like a waste, don't it?
>>729569756>you're not gonna resell your game so you don't need resellable games goyshalom
>>729569756Personally? i buy all digital so the GKC shit has nothing to do with me, but i remember being a kid and trading games with friends or not having enough money for every new game and having to trade stuff in, so i see the value in being able to do so.
>>729537720Is there a way to end the contract and go with mobile data stuff with other company? It could give them a hint.
>>729569942Digital has those things covered though.>trading games with friendsCopy the game onto a USB, or if you wanna do it "legally" then you can steam family share. >not having enough money for every new gameThat's where piracy comes in. So you can't be tricked into buying a bad game and wasting 60 dollars.
>>729545551It's a pokemon spin off, so maybe 100-300k units.
>>729531201Nigger, they know how many units and how many games they sell and in which formats. If they sell far less key cards than units and physical/digital games they will discontinue that retarded format altogether.They are pushing that shit because the special snowflake memory they went for is too expensive and continues rising in price anyway. Releasing the console now was a huge mistake on their part.
>>729569860The concept of reselling media in the post-digital age is lunacy anyway, there is no scarcity to the product, so it has no value.>I need you to partially refund this game and then sell it to this anon at a discountIf you need the financial stability of not being extorted by copy right, then just pirate.
>>729526706physical is non negotiable to me
>>729526706You have no admin control over the product or your console and can't even just permanently airgap your console to avoid someone else from assuming direct control, because you need to phone home to download.
