Look guys, the game is foreshadowing a future character!Aren't you curious about how will this play out?Share your art of what you think this character will be like!I am so excited to have fun and adventure in Chapter 5's Flower World!
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>>730045952They’re gonna end up being the least important flower and fans will praise Tricky Tony subverting their expectations once again.
>check last thread>dess knighters were utterly btfo'dWhat the fuck? Has this ever happened before?
>>730046784did you make this because I said >>730042803 or did it already exist?
>>730046798Man, I just don't get what changed.Most foreshadowing in Undertale and Chapter 1 was very straight forward, what changed for the rest of Deltarune?
>>730047324yes>>730047232you mean the knight being dess' corpse with kris' soul?
>>730047232Never happened.Dess planted her fat punk deer ass on Kidris's face and changed his life forever.
>>730047232This has literally never happened. Yeah they just filled the whole of chapter 3 with Dess references for no reason, right?The Knight has a bat and ice skating moves for no reason, right?Carol teleported from her house to the church while nobody was looking, right?Or Rudy's entire character was a lie and Noelle's home situation has no ambiguity to it, her parents are just assholes lying to her. Yeah this is good writing.
>>730047468I'm getting worried after how basic the Titan fight was.And pulling the same tricks he used with Omega Flowey won't have the same effect now besides being a cute callback.
>>730047232(You)
>>730047592Something something IMAGE_FRIEND
>>730047836FRIEND has a clearly foreshadowed role in the story that is not being The Knight
>>730047592>yeah, they just showed Kris doing a Chara impression for nothing, right?>chapter 2 showed Kris preparing dark worlds in advance for no reason, right?>Queen showed a Knife hologram for no reason, right?>Kris opened a fountain in front of us for a reason, right?>Dess had no definitive Knight tell for a reason, right?>Spamton said all that about Tenna and Mike for no reason, right/>Sans said you could meet Papyrus soon for no reason, right?
>>730046798>assuming it will be a flower chapter at all
>>730047468Yeah, it's gonna be the (you) boss fight at the end of the Weird Route.
>>730047592Honestly the Chapter 2 Trucie scene is a pretty good analogy for the situation we are in, like Carol and Kris DO have a trucy but it was made while Dess was watching, Carol has no awareness of Dess being close despite how hard she searches for her, The Kris/Noelle trucie is probably very similar to the deal with Kris/Dess and i personally would find it pure pottery if Dess had opened up to Kris about Noelle in the same way Noelle opens up to Kris about Dess
>>730048295>>Dess had no definitive Knight tell for a reason, right?We didn't know enough about Dess in chapter 1-2 to say anything, dumbass. She couldn't have ANY tells because the only exposure to her was through the mouths of people who only knew her before she disappeared.
>>730045952One guy did make concepts for all the flowers. I will be posting some.
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>>730048476ok so we had>susie and ralsei taking another path and being unaware of that>berdly is surface level truce, the most naive>queen is the deeper truce, trying to get rid of the first>noelle is the deepest truce, knows of the other two, the most important one for kris
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>>730049021Exactly, that's the fucking issue.Flowey/Asriel has all the minimum setup since the fucking demo, meanwhile Dess barely exists in chapter 1.
>>730048295>>yeah, they just showed Kris doing a Chara impression for nothing, right?It wasn't for nothing. It showed us that Kris is a person that can exist outside of our direct control.>>chapter 2 showed Kris preparing dark worlds in advance for no reason, right?It foreshadows they're on the scheme WITH the Knight.>>Queen showed a Knife hologram for no reason, right?How was this for nothing? A knife literally is used to open the Dark World.>>Kris opened a fountain in front of us for a reason, right?Yes, as part of the plan they're a part of.>>Dess had no definitive Knight tell for a reason, right?We didn't know enough about Dess back then. Now she has a tell. Many of them in fact.>>Spamton said all that about Tenna and Mike for no reason, rightAll of that had a lot of meaning and builds on the broader theme of Darkners' service to Lightners dehumanizing and causing harm to them.>>Sans said you could meet Papyrus soon for no reason, right?The more we're edged the more impact his actual appearance is going to have.
>>730049275It's a story. You follow through it and information is revealed. Things aren't more true because they made more sense when you had less information, dumbass.
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>>730049436The blue flower in OP.
>>730049527Submissive and snowgraveable
So, what's the non-Dess Knight explanation for what's going on with the Black Deer in the Mantle game?It makes sense with Dess Knight since you can just assume the monster mirroring Kris is meant to represent the KNight, and it becomes that black deer just like the white robe becoming the deer represents Noelle.So how does it work if Carol Knight or one of the other options?
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>>730049321>It wasn't for nothing. It showed us that Kris is a person that can exist outside of our direct control.>It foreshadows they're on the scheme WITH the Knight.>How was this for nothing? A knife literally is used to open the Dark World.>Yes, as part of the plan they're a part of.>We didn't know enough about Dess back then. Now she has a tell. Many of them in fact.Anon, all this bullshit is a narrative issue. Why did the story try so hard to point at Kris being the Knight when this was never true?>All of that had a lot of meaning and builds on the broader theme of Darkners' service to Lightners dehumanizing and causing harm to them.But it had almost zero meaning in terms of plot. In fact, it created an entirely wrong image of where the plot was going.>The more we're edged the more impact his actual appearance is going to have.Pull your head out of your ass, you're not singing Beethoven with this shit.>It's a story. You follow through it and information is revealed. Things aren't more true because they made more sense when you had less information, dumbass.Too bad half of the information has been misleading so far.
>>730049057The pre-2025 theorist still hanging on deep inside me wants to know why there isn't a red flower in Asgore's shop, to stand in for the red soul.
>>730049839Done for now. Here's the artists Xitter account for more.https://x.com/RenatoMadguy
>>730049057>>730049121>>730049192>>730049267>>730049436>>730049527>>730049705>>730049839I'm gonna laugh my ass off if all the flowers end up just looking like Flowey when turned into Darkners.
>>730049634Semi related to this post but why does mini-Kris automatically slash the Knight?Actually as I was writing this post I figured it'll probably be the Soul's fault.Nevermind.
>>730049985because the red soul is (You)hence also why kris does not have their original soul
>>730049985Probably because Asgore never took Frisk's soul and the entire room is an Undertale reference.
>>730050132>>730050137But is still part of the full package.The game had a red flower for some hours, but that one got censored.
>>730049985Because it's Flowey and the souls besides the red one.That's why I don't get why that fanart makes the golden flower look like Frisk/Chara. It's clearly meant to be Flowey. It should look like Asriel.
>>730050050That's possible but I still believe in the human soul agenda anyways, even it they are just seven floweys.
What's going to happen with Asgore's favorite cancelled cowboy puppet show?
>>730050913We're going to get yet another meta joke about it, despite the appropriate moment do something about it being long gone.
>>730050519I agree. Despite liking the flowers from the artist I posted I really dislike the golden flower is just Chara and not Flowey/Asriel. Kris is the Chara counterpart.
>>730050731thy're is just going to be yet another outlet for lightner family drama storylines
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>>730051282True, but I don't mind that. I think they being a replacement family to Asgore is the way to go.
>>730051415I dunno about that. He's still trying hard to get back with Toriel.Maybe it could still happen since it doesn't but still.
>>730051203Whichever way the other flowers go, I think the Golden one really needs to be Flowey/Asriel like so it can be Ralsei's big character development.Ralsei needs to be faced with the reality of what he was made as (a tool in the shape of someone else) and overcome it to become more of his own person. The Shadow Crystal stuff will probably be tied to that so that he can get a super weapon. Hell, give him a scarf made of vines from the Flowey-like after whatever ordeal goes down.
>>730050416We are the red flower, I assume. That or Kris/Ralsei.
>>730051636Anon, Ralsei already has a scarf made of vines from Spamton.
>>730051636I still think the scarf will come from Papyrus as he literally gave Flowey a scarf in the alarm clock.
>>730051538They will be a "replacement" family that he has to let go because he eventually needs to let go of the fountain. Cue drama.
>>730051415Come on, man. Darkners are at their best when they have their own thing going on.>>730051636>a scarf made of vines from the Flowey-likeI'd warn you not to expect this sort of stuff after how Chapter 3 played out.
>>730050913Probably nothing unironically. It's not that important, which is why Toby cut it in the first place. At best the yellow flower might have something to do with it.
>>730051636>black shard as an actual sword>when in game it's closer to a dagger than an actual swordwhy do artists do this
>>730051982>Come on, man. Darkners are at their best when they have their own thing going on.That was back in Chapter 1 and 2 days. Post 3 all darkners are related to their lightners. Toby doesn't want to introduce major darkner characters and seven is a big number for characters.
>>730051802Eh, they could still make it work differently. Make it thorny or something.>>730051832That works instead too I suppose. Or I guess it could be something from Asgore depending on how the SHadow Crystal stuff goes down.>>730051982I'm not saying Flowey would have to be the boss, just that he'd be involved. Like maybe some bad shit goes down and he ends up dying or something and Ralsei takes a part of him as a way to be one with this "other him" type thing.
>>730052052It wasnt fully deleted, Tenna still references It in the game.
>>730052920He references the floral cowboy which could easily be the yellow flower.
>>730052965He also says that they still have "that cowboy program your dad used to love"
>>730049857>Anon, all this bullshit is a narrative issue. Why did the story try so hard to point at Kris being the Knight when this was never true?It was very close to true. Kris wasn't the Knight, but they were working with the Knight. Duh. The payoff was still there, just not *exactly* what you thought it was.
>>730053242Wasn't that the cut content of board 3? Do you have a link to the scene?
>>730049857>But it had almost zero meaning in terms of plot. In fact, it created an entirely wrong image of where the plot was going.No it didn't? How did the whole Mike stuff even point you at anything? It was a grand total of 3 something lines that said Spamton didn't like a guy and thought he was untrustworthy.Hell, all the Mike theories had Mike basically just do the same exact stuff as Tenna anyway.
>>730050050HOLD ONFlowers can't turn into Darkners, they aren't objects
>>730053786anon, your chapter 3 cactus darkner?
>>730053714For the thousandth time.EVERY OTHER TIME TOBY DID THIS SORT OF FORESHADOWING IT LEAD UP TO SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A META JOKE.There were funny skeletons, there was a tough royal guard called Undyne, there was a nerdy scientist called Alphys, there was a TV star called Mettaton, and there was a Queen who returned.Early Mike theories gave him a Tenna role because people thought he was the gameshow host. Post Sweepstakes theories generally gave him the role Ramb got.>>730053354What is the fucking point of being this much misleading?
>>730045952What creepypasta tropes has Toby not done his own spin on?
>>730049057I can’t wait for them to look absolutely nothing like this
>>730053786No, they can. Chapter 3 had the cactus in Kris' house turn into a Darkner. Toby was just a COWARD and didn't give us the full design. She was always hiding behind curtains.
>>730053940>>730054043>no how to train dragons darkner>we didn't even get to see how the cactus looks likeFUCK YOU TOBY
What is with the closet door that Kris refuses to open anyways?Assuming its the Knight hiding just out of view seems so silly somehow.
>>730054252it's a subtle reference to kris' closeted transsexuality
>>730054252It's the Knight hiding there, obviously. It explains where they went. It's also another example of "Kris can disobey our orders by only very technically doing what the prompt says."
>>730053786Kris's cactus can turn into a darkner. They can and will.
>>730054252It's the Knight hiding just out of view.
>>730054252Carol's secret underground tunnel
>>730054732It also disproves Asgore Knight because Asgore is too fucking fat to fit in the closet
>>730054905NO FUCKINGWAY
>>730054252Sex toys in there.
who in this thread a "thrash machine = vessel parallel" truther
>>730055027Me but also the chapter 3 silver cage in the love vs hate (Kris is the golden)
>>730055027*raises hand*
>>730054252annoying dog's in there
>>730048295>Kris Knightfag>Mikefag>PapyrusfagYep, you lost and got raped
>>730054128Such a shame that not many people even tried to make concepts of it since she was so minor to the chapter.Some people probably didn't even understand who she was with the curtain bit.
>>730055079That means there's going to be a 10 minute make out scene with the Vessel and Kris
Ok but have you ever seen Noelle and the Knight in the same general area? No? Exactly.
>>730055027me it's so obviously supposed to be a parallel that i don't understand how people deny the vessel
>>730055339Toby is merely setting up his own rape once he upsets his main audience outside of here
>>730051203Chara makes such an expressive flower
>>730055424This but also a scene where the Vessel kills Kris.
>>730055628All floweys are expressive tbf. Plus I still prefer Flowey being the golden flower.
>>730056064That looks erotic somehow
Obligatory doe post>...What are we going to do on the bed Kris?
>>730056259There is SO MUCH stuff of Noelle. Do you really need to use AI?
>>730054252The implication that The Knight is hiding there is interesting for a few reasons. Kris doesn't really give a shit about hiding their involvement in the plan but Carol and The Knight are making an effort to hide from us.The Knight probably isn't actually afraid of us. They laugh in Susie's face when she suggests they're weaker in the Light World, we know that they're capable enough to sprint across town with Undyne and they've been able to operate around town so far without issues. The Church Dark World was unambiguously made during the daytime, so we know that even that isn't an issue for them, like some have speculated.Basically it supports the idea that The Knight is a real physically present person with an identity that has a reason to be hidden from us, even if we haven't met them before.
>>730049634Is Toriel gonna be the reason Dess vanished?Is Asgore fighting to uncover a truth that’ll only hurt him?One-two punch of finding out about this and the end of Chapter 4 at once that pushes him over the edge?
Why DOES Kris wipe his call history after the mansion visit?If you assume all phone calls are from Carol then we already know.
>>730056123The artist is a flower fangirl.
>>730056678Also, the specific phrasing that was also used with the closet in Chapter 2"A large person could fit inside."
>>730056626I don't need to, but I also am selective with the AI ones I do post. Can't stand the ones where the hands/fingers are all messed up.
>>730056626Coomers are never satisfied, anon.
>>730057010There is a surprising amount of deltarune lewds but these threads are not for that. Sometimes you just want to enjoy pictures of cute characters.
>>730056843I doubt it. I think the variable is only named after Toriel because it makes the monster look like her, just like how Ralsei’s bullets are called Toriel Bullets because they are literally the same sprite ripped from Undertale.
>>730054252It's the Knight hiding inside.
>>730056963I suppose it's hard to really talk much when most art of her is already very off model in the face anyways.
>>730057524Anon this is some shit only visible through datamining, there's no way toby didn't update the variable name to be reflective of the actual lore.
>>730057237I feel like you could just post pictures of your favorite without being AI? There's a lot of doe images out there. But you do you.
>>730057608Yeah it kinda runs the gamut from overly human to anime face to literal deer head.
>>730056843>Is Toriel gonna be the reason Dess vanished?No, the variable that hides the deer is just called "toriel" because the generic monster sprite that's used (with a black palette) looks like TorielAt this point I can't imagine Toriel being involved in any conspiracy, if she knew something about what happened to Dess and divorced Asgore anyway it would make her look really horrible.The most I could see is if the Delta Rune code was entrusted to her, which is possible but seems unlikely (Toriel isn't anybody special in this universe and Asgore was presumably the one previously entrusted with the police code, it would be strange for two of the codes to have been held by one family). And this is all assuming that the codes on the Shelter were a thing before Dess disappeared, and not something put on afterward to stop anyone else from snooping around in there.>>730056846We know that the phone is Carol because we overheard the conversation and can infer based on how we see the situation play out. But it's not something out in the open, they're still trying to hide it from us.Kris isn't trying very hard to hide the plan from us but Carol probably told them to wipe the phone so we couldn't find out like that and share that information with anyone.
>>730045952>its Flowey (same sprite) but its an actual good person but you are the entirety of the game suspicious about it
>>730047232>dess knighters were utterly btfo'dWasn't in the last thread, so how?
>>730057645A lot of variables and sprites have dumb names, too. Like Asgore’s sprite and the constant piss jokes within. Not EVERYTHING in code is a hidden lore fact. Some is just as simple as Toby naming something based on its visual look.
>ripped cloaca hypothesis
>>730055460people refuse to acknowledge that noelle is also a knight candidate because they headcannoned that she has to be the second heronevermind the fact that she's the most likely person to have made the ch2 fountain with what we know of the situation
>>730057770I unironically expect this and for him to be named Flowery as well.
>>730057816Do you not understand what I mean by >this is some shit only visible through dataminingThere's no way to turn off the variable and see the deer in-game, you can only turn it off by datamining. That means finding the variable name is intended.
>>730050050Remember that this gif had not green flower, succeeding kindness soul in chapter 4
would you really want to smooch THIS?
>>730057849people refuse to acknowledge noelle is a knight candidate because its fucking retarded, yeah sure, the teenager could have easily ran away with the adult cop in hand through the entire town
>>730057968Yeah, it's intended because it turns the monsters into a toriel looking monster, not that Toriel genocides Dess
>>730057758People just don't make her head LONG enough.
>>730058068noelle is factually part of the cross country clubi can believe she can bolt across town faster than anyone although carrying undyne is an issue, yes
>>730057792He made that up.
>>730057717A thousand apologies anon. Please accept my 100% human drawn art of Noelle as a token of my regret for troubling your eyes with the unholy visage of AI imagery.
>>730048380Personally, I see Chapter 5's dark world having 2 possibilities. Either just the flower shop, or the whole festival will get turned into a dark world. If it's the festival, chapter 4 shows us that Asgore's flowers are going to be all over town as decoration. So that aspect is unavoidable.
>>730057849>they headcannoned that she has to be the second heroNo, she's The Girl (the other Girl).She just has too many other things going on in the story to also be The Knight, and The Knight has too much that directly points to Dess and nobody else. The most direct evidence pointing to Noelle as the Knight specifically is the unused text implying that The Knight froze Undyne, but even that's not really Noelle-exclusive when Carol and The Knight more generally are also associated with cold/ice/snow.It's a better theory than Carol or Rudy being The Knight but it still has too much to overcome and it's still just Dess.>she's the most likely person to have made the ch2 fountain with what we know of the situationThat's really hard to square with the fact that Queen caught The Knight making the fountain on-camera, did not identify them as Noelle, and seems certain that they left after making the fountain without doing anything in the Cyber World at all.The closet also has no reason to exist if it was just Noelle who made the fountain.
>>730058297Not bad, anon. You aren't a bad artistUnless this is AI as well because I remember a screencap that went just like this were the "hand draw" art was AI
>>730058334>the whole festival will get turned into a dark worldFor a Dark World to form, it seems like the darkness from the fountain needs to be able to completely fill a space. Every example of a Dark World we've seen has been contained to a single room or indoor space, and when a door to the outside is left open the darkness harmlessly disperses past the threshold, even at night.The festival seems to take up the entire town. I don't see how it could possibly become a Dark World unless The Roaring happens.
>>730058482the knight in ch2 split immediately after creating the fountain, nobody got a good glimpse of themwe know noelle and berdly were already in the computer lab when it happened because they already had their study stuff set up, which would've been impossible in the darkthe creation of the fountain could've been>noelle and berdly set up in the lab>noelle goes to the server closet and creates the fountain>immediately goes back to berdly at the table before they're both enveloped that's still consistent with what we know from ch2, the biggest question would be if creating a fountain makes an actual sound, since berdly would've heard it if it does
>>730058825Seems trivial.If there's a event in some specific building, then all that needs to happen is for someone to open a fountain there when 90%+ of people are in it.
>>730058774I had briefly considered a response to the effect of>Ha Ha you fool that was AI created too!But no that is a legit hand drawn picture, although I didn't draw it. But still, it's the thought that counts.
>>730049527would omega plap
>>730058918>the knight in ch2 split immediately after creating the fountainExactly, it would be strange for the game to establish this if The Knight was Noelle, who did not actually leave the computer lab. Even if Queen couldn't identify them, she and everyone else in Cyber World seem confident that The Knight is no longer around.>we know noelle and berdly were already in the computer lab when it happened because they already had their study stuff set upI agree.>noelle goes to the server closet and creates the fountain>immediately goes back to berdlyOkay but why, how does that work?Noelle falls into a trance somehow and does that for some reason and doesn't remember it?Berdly doesn't notice Noelle going back and forth from the closet while it's exploding?>the biggest question would be if creating a fountain makes an actual soundIt seems pretty spectacular, but we see at the end of Chapter 2 that Toriel and Susie can sleep through it happening right next to them, so it must not be that crazy.I can buy The Knight making a fountain in the closet without being detected, and the smoke fills the room too fast for Noelle and Berdly to react or realize what's going on while they're distracted by their project. But if it was Noelle doing it in the middle of working on their project, it's harder to believe Berdly wouldn't have noticed.
>>730054645>>730053940>>730054043>>730054128reminder that the cactus darkner's design is a SPOILERbecause ralsei is a fucking TREE
I wonder what the knights motivation is because why make a dark fountain in the abandoned classroom and the computer lab.
>>730059151>If there's a event in some specific building, then all that needs to happen is for someone to open a fountain there when 90%+ of people are in it.Okay but that's not "Festival Dark World" anymore, that's "Dark World in another random building that isn't Flower King for some reason"I really don't think that's going to happen for a lot of reasons, we've gotten pretty direct foreshadowing that Chapter 5 is going to have Asgore as the chapter villain and it's going to focus a lot on "roots" (their family history and what happened with Dess)
why is every single person who plays this game on SSRIs?
>>730058825I agree that I don't know how it'd work, but there's just too many little details that make me think it's possible.>all the weird shit going on around town like the lake and graveyard>the seemingly random town members mentioned in the goner maker>the final mantle dungeon being shaped like hometown and filled with enemies that represent the citizensNot to mention all the stuff about how Ralsei "can't come to the festival". It seems like a setup that he WILL be at the festival, but only because it's a dark world disaster.
>>730060048It makes a lot more sense if you assume that these places, and even the Darkners within them, have a personal connection to The Knight
>>730060260i'm not on SSRIs albeit
>>730060260because im depressed and hate life but susie is the only thing i have worth living for
prove to me Alphys isn’t into NTR,>weeb>also asgore the closest thing to an ugly bastard in UT.She would just sit there watching Undyne getting railed by the biggest guy she could find, then helps Undyne by licking up the mess.
>>730060260I'm normal and I don't know what those are
>>730060534>susie and ralsei are right at his side>they (specially susie) don't comment at all on everything ramb revealed to them
>>730060594Asgore is canonically jacked and handsome and she wants him
>>730060642the game does that a lot, there are even parts where susie and ralsei will just disappear, like with the eggman or the 1225 secret with the prize machine. I don't know if were just supposed to treat it as some kind of soliloquy or something
>>730060594She doesn't want 3DPD unless it's that smelly fish.
>>730060642>>730061109I do think sometimes you're not really supposed to worry about Susie and Ralsei following you, even if you can usually wave it off as "Susie is kind of dumb and Ralsei is a knower who won't step out of line"Susie even pretty much points it out after the Spamton NEO fight, like "Are we not gonna talk about all that weird shit?"
>>730060594>has the hots for undyne, mew mew, mettaton, asgore and toriel>humps a lifesized mew mew doll>possibly had a thing going on with sans too>goes on a play date with frisk>has a wallpaper with burly men on her school computer>thinks about her students making out>almost made a sex pun on one of the newsletterscrazy how she is pretty much a pervert, considering the kind of game Undertale is
>>730061543Girls can get away with it
>>730053605https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s51xZosBTwMYou can only get this scene immediately after Susie talks to Tenna.
>>730061481>>730061109I can try using my imagination and pretend they're just distracted by the prizes, but it gets weird. This dialogue could have been moved inside the S rank room.It's weirder how no one ever talks to shopkeepers with a screen, despite the game having a whole "small emote" system to show various characters at once in a message.
>>730047324>>730047424To clarify I made it since I thought it would be funny
>>730060594asgore and undyne would be even spicier for alphys given the whole pseudo-incest angle
>>730061892thank you anonI'll use it when I come back here to seethe about mike again
>>730061862I imagine they just don't want to butt in because they see them as conversations initiated by Kris regarding stuff they aren't interested in. Though I believe Susie does comment on a few choices in Gerson's shop
>>730047891Nigga the tail of hell is the bead toy at the hospitalGod I hate Friendfags
>>730062289Why is there a tail of hell file with a spade tip?
>>730062163Gerson is a overworld shop, I mean the ones with a screen shop like Seam.Speaking of that, we didn't even get a new one of those in these new chapters for some reason.
>>730062376>spade queen was real all along
>>730047232Because it would be more interesting for Rudy to be the knight
>>730047232As they should be. They're annoying and delusional. All real deltarune scholars know amalgam knight is the one true option>If the knight was a holiday, it would not be referred to as an it. An amalgam would.>Amalgams are shown to be able to shapeshift>They are created using determination, the substance that enables the creation of darkworlds. The shadow crystals being pretty much confirmed to be containers of determination only further solidifies the connection the knight has to determination and thus being an amalgam.>It would explain why the knight is kept secret, Carol running unethical experiments and creating abominations like these would be a major cause for concern>The knight is animalistic while also clearly being sapient, traits amalgams have.>This would explain why the knight has different voices. A shrill scream, a Noelle like yelp, and a laugh that sounds like friend. Amalgams have weird voices.>Amalgams are really strong so it's no wonder why it was able to carry Undyne so easily.>The knight has an affinity towards Kris because it views them as a comrade in arms against Carol's oppressive hand.>A lightner being created and treated as an object (darkner) with no freedom or agency of its own is the perfect set up for an emotional ending. An ending with Susie forgiving the knight and allowing it to live with her in castle town.The knight is capturing people to take their powers. It is also opening dark fountains to empower the soul. Together, the empowered soul and empowered knight will go into the depths and find Dess.
>>730062470>Queen of Spades shows up>The KING OF ERO GAMES TOBY has her do a subtle blacked joke
>>730062376Why are there a ton of attack patterns in the files that are never used?
>>730062789Whataboutism, thanks for the concession
>>730062851The implication is that an unused file may be in there for similar reasons as other unused filesI fucking hate when people act retarded to try and win conversations it's so goddamn annoying
>>730061543>>730060594Doesn't this put her attraction to Frisk in a bad light
>>730060594>>730060698>>730061934>they both Stare at her and laugh midway through
>>730063247Sorry, I assumed you were working with a room temperature IQ. I've noted that it's lower than that.Why would the bead toy, which is never referenced with a reference of hell, never is described as a tail, and never is said to crawl, be the tail of hell with a spade tip in an earlier iteration? The hospital beads are a reference to the main characters on a supposedly set path, as indicated by the beads off the rail in the weird route, and Kris described as a Dark Bead. There's no justification as to why the bead toy would ever have been considered to have a tip because it's not a tail. Everyone but you seem capable of understanding basic analogy of the bead toy.>I fucking hate when people act retarded to try and win conversations it's so goddamn annoyingYou are retarded and incoherent so all conversations must be annoying to you
>>730062721>If the knight was a holiday, it would not be referred to as an it. An amalgam would.Because of course, every single character always says everything with 100% accuracy and never has any lack of knowledge ever.
>>730062289>what if the game was less interesting because... FUCKING FRIENDFAGS BROthere's more in favor of the tail of hell being related to FRIEND than there is it being something arbitrary like the hospital beads for the sole reason that they're both composed of circles. the hospital beads represent the prophecy's participants and, to humor you for a second, it "taking crawl" and being "the tail that must not be followed" from a storytelling perspective using what we know would literally just be "the prophecy is bad but it's happening!! it's still happening bro!" which is not only redundant and pointless narratively as Chapter 4 already makes this incredibly clear, there's Organikk dialogue contrasting the tale that must be followed (blatantly the Prophecy) with the tail that must not be followed (which you propose is also the prophecy, or specifically its participants). what would be the point in using Organikks, probably the NPCs with the most "cryptic foreshadowing"-esque dialogue in the game, to foreshadow nothing and state the same thing twice? to use contrast to repeat what the player already knows instead of using it to reference a motif that has become increasingly more prominent yet still hard to pin down? why would the FRIEND - Cat Petterz associations and storytelling be wasted in favor of one interactable and a bit of flavor text? Toby Fox isn't a retard, he made his point with the beads and the tail of hell is something different
>>730063790That would only apply if the characters were calling the knight a they/them EXCLUSIVELY. They do not. Ralsei, the one who knows the most about the prophecy, calling the knight an it is extremely damning evidence against dessknight. Unless her pronoun privileges somehow got removed, there is no reason to believe Dess or frankly any other lightner is the knight other than an amalgam.
I want to be able to fight zombie Berdly in chapter 5
>>730063552it puts it in an even worse light
>>730064109>Toby Fox isn't a retard
>>730062721What is it an amalgam of?
>>730064562It could be an amalgam of anything. That's the beauty of the theory. There are so many ways it could be written. But at the end of the day, what it is an amalgam of matters less than the fact that it is indeed an amalgam.
>>730064135The knight could also be a darker with a soul too with the similarities it has with the titan/titan spawn outside of just being black
>>730064562papyrus, notice the body shape?
>>730064554is he Jewish?
>>730062289Sure man
>>730064554my point is that he, contrary to what people seem to believe, isn't the sort for arbitrary misdirection and le epic subversion for the sake of subversion at the cost of his intentional storytelling. the Mike shit wasn't misdirection, it was just fandom pattern recognition gone wild because people were given 4 years to pick the game apart and speculate about things because Toby's a slow fuck
>>730062721Knight has been referred to as both "it" and "they" so that's not a very strong argument
>>730065020Thing is, no other lightner has been referred to as an it. Once a lightner gets referred to as an it, especially by a knower like Ralsei, then that's a sign that something is definitely not normal about them.
>>730065105It's late and I don't want to replay all of deltarune right now but are darkners referred as an it sometimes?
>>730064927I don't think Mike was a misdirection. There were still a million more tasteful ways he could have solved that thing, just turn Mike into a throwaway midboss that doesn't impact the main plot, people would have been happy.But don't tell me all the Kris Knight hints weren't a misdirection. Neither shit like the green dinosaur question. He is definitely doing misdirection on purpose at the very least in some aspects.
my deltarune theory is that the game would be much better if ralsei was replaced by foghorn leghorn
>>730065183only the ones that are clearly not sapient. Every darkner who is clearly sapient like king queen and tenna are referred to by their proper pronouns.
Why is Gaster so interested in Deltarune, though? What does he gain from setting up SURVEY_PROGRAM and all this?
>>730065335he's a scientist conducting an experiment
>>730065259Yet the knight is also sapient yet is called an it... interesting
>>730065192you're right, i'm not at my most articulate and there are words that would better illustrate my point. what i'm trying to say though is basically FRIEND isn't going to be irrelevant, it wouldn't make sense with how the character is portrayed because even if Toby does use misdirection things are never *meaningless*. that's a better word
>>730065192Funny thing is that the two biggest things that are potential misdirects get the most contention.>Carol Knight vs Dess Knight>Player Angel vs Noelle AngelIn both situations, they're both extremely heavily hinted at in certain ways, which leads to both sides saying the other is the misdirection. It's actually pretty effective.
>>730065483Personally I just can’t see Carol doing those Jojo poses on the stairs
>>730065387>Gets wiped out of existence>Potentially leaves behind two friends/family forever>Oh well back to doing experimentsSo you headcanon him as a autist
>>730065423Half of what Spamton said about chapter 3 was meaningless. Some stuff around the Knight's role in chapter 1 probably got retconned now.I think FRIEND will just be a generic mook for someone more important, ERAM being the most suspicious right now.
>>730065483The problem I have with player angel if why does the sky mantle exist and the deliberate leaving out of the holy element from enemies
>>730065483Carol Knight is definitely a misdirection for people playing the game casually. It's doing the same beats Kris Knight had.Dess Knight might be a misdirection like how the Gerson Statue was in chapter 4. This whole thing so far is suspiciously too similar to the Flowey/Asriel twist.Player Angel and Noelle Angel might be both correct at the same time.
>>730060048>the abandoned classroomTo get Kris and the Girl in to a dark fountain ASAP>the computer lab.Noelle
>>730065717>This whole thing so far is suspiciously too similar to the Flowey/Asriel twist.It could be too similar to the Flowey/Asriel twist, because it's supposed to be exactly like the Flowey/Asriel twist.Dess and Asriel are nearly exactly mirrored in their roles. Just like how Asriel was the boy lost for good who haunted the entire narrative, so is Dess.
>>730060048The Knight could just make a bunch of fountains if it wanted to start the Roaring. Its motivations are a mystery so far.
>>730065915This whole discussion is about how Toby is doing constant misdirections with the story.
>>730065335Looking at Undertale, he's interested in Determination and its ability to time travel to different timelines, and the dark world phenomenonThe metaphysics of the Deltarune world seem to allow for dark worlds, but not significant amounts of determination. Thus, the prophecy cannot be deviated from easily. However, the player has access to more determination, so they can be sent to the Deltarune world as an experiment to see if it can change such a large event like the Roaring.It's "his Deltarune" because he knows the path the story takes without the player, and the player was injected into the scenario by his hands, making him responsible for whatever happens to the world. The player getting snatched by the roaring squad before getting a body is immaterial to him, as it still allows the player to interact with the fate of the world by being a captive of the roaring squad for the time being.
>>730065569>Half of what Spamton said about Chapter 3 was meaninglesslike what? the Mike stuff was followed up with Tenna and the Mike room, his rambling about Tenna was contrasted with Tenna's rambling about Spamton and was meant to show how bad their relations had become. it was less prophetic than Jevil talking about Chapter 2 but it was more important to his character>Some stuff around the Knight's role in chapter 1 probably got retconned now.you can say that, but you're going to have to point to something specific. the Knight's role in chapter 1 is simple and hasn't been contradicted by any new information. they made the dark world and Jevil, with knowledge of the Knight, told King about them, though King never met them.>I think FRIEND will just be a generic mook for someone more importantdisagree, i don't think there'd be so much dedicated to it and Cat Petterz and all of the sweepstakes stuff that was followed up on in Chapter 3 and 4 if it wasn't at least a secret boss
>>730065335Deltarune will in fact have only one ending, the world being destroyed. The catch is, that a NEW Deltarune will be created. His Deltarune, a world where he will be able to exist properly again. The whole game we see the creation and destruction of dark worlds, so here we will see the destruction and creation of a light world. Gaster is able to create a copy, but he needs us, the light of our soul to color the new world. This is why the weird route is merely "weird", and not necessarily a problem. Even if the new world is warped by our actions, it's still a world that Gaster can exist in.
>>730066054>>730066093Eggman is a problem.Your retort.
>>730065656I also think that the sky mantle will be probably be a fusion of the shadow mantle and pure crystal or else the pure crystal would just be a paper weight https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ybnUVKq9EvY
>>730065915I'm gonna flip my shit when we get a rendition of Don't Forget called "Her Theme".
>>730065335so he can stab the ground and create a make believe surface for undertale monsters to live
Always bet on ICE-E chapter 5.
>>730065483>which leads to both sides saying the other is the misdirectionThis is what really makes Knight debates so fucking tiring for me. The thing with CarolKnight is that it's both a casual trap, but also a lorehead trap. If you get too deep into DessKnight you can actually end up becoming a CarolKnightfag because all the DessKnight foreshadowing now looks "too obvious" to you. DessKnightfags have a lot of strong evidence but the average DessKnightfag is comically inept at articulating any of it. I don't even care who the Knight is anymore. Until we get new content, nobody is convincing anyone of anything.
What Knight theories pass the "Doesn't treat the horns/baseball bat as a throwaway misdirection" smell test?>Carolknight>Dessknight>Asrielknight
>>730049857toby wanted you to think charuh was the knight. kris was simply imitating dess, but it was still a hint towards a darker presence.
>>730065523Carol is chuuni as fuck, dude. She'd totally do shit like that.
>>730066131The Forgotten Man is Another Him, perhaps the one Gaster wants forgotten so he can override him and take his place. If the Forgotten Man isn't forgotten, with the eggs letting him manifest in the light world, Gaster's plan can't work. There can't be two of him at the same time.
>>730066085It about the picture the game creates with all the implications.>his rambling about Tenna was contrasted with Tenna's rambling about Spamton and was meant to show how bad their relations had becomeHis rambling called Tenna a criminal who should not be trusted, and considering the way he was treated by Queen and her servants (throwing him in acid and all), one would expect the same sort of story going on.And now comes the part you say>you're just mad it isn't what you had in your hadIt's what A LOT OF PEOPLE had in their heads. Look at any fan made Tenna compilations and you'll see the Gangster Tenna interpretation was the most popular one by far. This yaoi shit was only done by fujos.Just changing Spamton's line to "THE MAN IS GLOOBY! GLOOBY!" would have made wonders for the expectations.>the Knight's role in chapter 1 is simple and hasn't been contradicted by any new informationChapter 1 makes you think the knight showed up, thrashed the throne room and put King in charge, while Jevil just got Gaster'ed.King's new dialogue completely flipped what was implied.>i don't think there'd be so much dedicated to it and Cat Petterz and all of the sweepstakes stuff that was followed up on in Chapter 3 and 4 if it wasn't at least a secret bossYou're gonna fall for the meme yourself, and know how it felt for Chapter-3-hype fags like me.
>>730066501>toby wanted you to think charuh was the knightin other words, he is being intentionally misleading
How about something different.What theories were you just dead wrong on?Pic related. I gotta live with my bum ass that pushed Third Entity stuff hard all through the gap after Chapter 2. Thought for sure the SOULless Kris had to be a different thing but that was entirely wrong. Kris Knight itself was also wrong, but at least it had some validation in that Kris wasn't literally the Knight, but was doing the Knight's dirty work for it.
>>730066131The egg man exists outside of the normal events of Deltarune like Gaster and the player, and seems to be trying to evoke Kris' past and inform the player of Kris' past simultaneously. It's possible that this is a way of altering Deltarune that Gaster didn't plan for as a variable, and an uncontrolled variable can alter an experiment in a way that you cannot make an accurate conclusion after the fact as a confounder. If the hypothesis is "inserting a player changes/won't change the outcome of the Roaring", and there's an egg man altering both Kris and the player, your experiment instead is testing "inserting a player that is influenced by the egg man changes/won't change the Roaring" which is a much weaker result.Who he is I have no clue. Unlike Undertale Gaster, who is remembered but not mentioned outside of fun event followers, the egg man is forgotten. Forgotten by who, maybe Kris, but who knows who else. Not enough data.
>>730065335he's studying how fictional characters can instantiate themselves in a higher plane because he wants to get to the real world like In the Mouth of Madness
Is Susie a super senior?
>>730065192>people would have been happyPeople are happy about the Mikes, they're very popular. "Normal" people think that acknowledging fan theories gone wild and having fun with them is cool and good. Most people are not bitter autists like you upset that your interpretation was wildly off base. Most people like that Mike was a special thing and not a generic forgettable mid-boss like Sweet Cap'n Cakes.>But don't tell me all the Kris Knight hints weren't a misdirection. Neither shit like the green dinosaur question. He is definitely doing misdirection on purposeMisdirection is a fundamental part of storytelling and entertainment. A completely straightforward story is predictable and boring.Nobody told you that Toby has never misled his audience, you were told that Toby is not a hack who applies it arbitrarily for its own sake, just to pull the rug out from under you and call you a fucking idiot for going along with what the story told you. Misdirection serves a purpose.Kris opening a fountain at the end of Chapter 2 is meant to put the idea that they COULD be The Knight in the player's mind, which creates tension throughout Chapter 3, up until the end of the Chapter when the real Knight shows up.Kris ripping out the SOUL, pulling a knife and looking evil at the camera at the end of Chapter 1 serves to definitely establish that You and Kris are not the same, and to put the idea that Kris might have their own malicious agenda in the player's mind. Even if it's immediately played off as a joke at the start of Chapter 2, the player no longer trusts Kris and this separation has been established, setting up the end of Chapter 2 and future conflict between You and Kris.Tenna asking questions about Kris's personal life that Kris would know but You do not is another intentional device to create dissonance between You and Kris. The game is not saying "haha, got you, fucking idiot," it's giving you an uncomfortable reminder that You are not Kris.
Charaknight
>>730066739>It about the picture the game creates with all the implications.that's more the fault of the gap between releases than anything else, something not being what the fandom convinced you it'd be is not the same as it being meaningless. not only was Spamton unhinged and shouldn't have been taken at face value regardless, Tenna was a jackass, just not a mobster. fans had reason to believe he'd be called Rook and there'd be a Bishop in the church dark world because the previous rulers were called King and Queen but i don't think it's the game's fault that it isn't just what the fans expected it to be. the storytelling that lead fans to think what they did still had a purpose>Chapter 1 makes you think the knight showed up, thrashed the throne room and put King in charge, while Jevil just got Gaster'ed. King's new dialogue completely flipped what was implied.>* It was he, the clown, that told me the Knight's brilliance...>* About the fountains' glory, and how I would rise to power.that doesn't really retcon it at all, unless there's something else you're talking about. it directly states that the King was fated to rise to power, likely as part of the prophecy; King didn't have to meet the Knight in-person to waltz in and claim his new role as the only king after the other 3 Kings were deposed. >* Once, all four of us ruled together, but when the Knight arrived, everything changed...>* But, recently, a strange knight appeared...>* And three of the kings were locked away.>* The remaining king put him and his strange son into power.the more i look at the old dialogue the more i believe you're mistaken and that there's no contradiction. and Jevil's knowledge is a separate deal entirely, the Shadow Crystals are still a mystery and will be elaborated upon in Chapter 5 as Toby teased in his most recent post>you're gonna fall for the mememy enjoyment of this game doesn't hinge on whether or not my predictions for its story are true or not
>>730066697>There can't be two of him at the same timeyeah that usually doesn't go well
>>730066131The PlayStation achievements only exist because of a Sony mandate and "COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE" is so vague that people were schizoing out about "ISSUE" being an anagram for "Susie" up to release. Many of the other achievements have multiple conditions that are only related in obtuse or overly literal ways (including some related to the Eggs). I don't really think it means anything, in absence of anything else to go on."ISSUE" could easily be talking about Kris's "issues," since The Forgotten Man seems to be intimately related to Kris's traumatic past.
>>730066940>What theories were you just dead wrong on?I was an Alvin Knight believer. Not hard committed to it but I thought it was the best fit for the evidence that we had, which I stand by. It definitely wasn't Kris and Dess was a total shot in the dark, sure Dess had a lot of "themes" going for her but so did Alvin through Gerson, which the game delivered on in a different way in Chapter 4.The wildest theory I'm committed to for Chapter 5 is that Toby's going to just do the ending of Undertale, with a Flowey Darkner as the secret boss (who's actually just FRIEND so he can really fuck with Kris) and Asgore gets fucking killed after you beat him, either by Flowey/FRIEND or The Knight.
>>730066739>Chapter 1 makes you think the knight showed up, thrashed the throne room and put King in charge, while Jevil just got Gaster'ed.No, Chapter 1 made me think the Knight showed up, imparted some simple mind-shattering secret to Jevil, and let him run off raving about it, and King overthrowing the rest was the fated result of the Knight's interference.I was 100% clear on King not having met the Knight personally, since King had a bone to pick with Lightners and thought that would somehow impress the Knight, meaning he understood all of jack and shit.
>>730061543Surprised Deltarune doesn't (yet) have moments where she speds out in front of Kris about how hot his brother looked by the time he graduated.
>>730065483i feel like player angel and noelle angel could be one in the same. after seeing the weird route doubling down on influencing noelle, i'd say there's a good chance she becomes the next vessel, and if that were to happen, she'd probably get a massive power up like when a monster absorbs a human soul, "a horrible beast with unfathomable power". noelle's wings will sprout forth once our fusion is complete towards the end of the route, and by THAT time she'll already be mindbroken enough to follow our will unquestioningly, unlike that jaundice chuuni gremlin dreemurr.she'll get to sprout wings and fly like she wanted to in her "dream" in chapter 2, she'll get to make it snow whenever she wants like she said in the winter newsletter, and she'll get to drag kris around on a leash if that little shit isn't dead already.>>730065656idk man maybe wings are kinda like a sky mantle or something
>>730066739>His rambling called Tenna a criminal who should not be trusted, and considering the way he was treated by Queen and her servants (throwing him in acid and all), one would expect the same sort of story going onThat was because he was conning them the entire time. Spamton's entire plotline is predicated on the fact that the shit he sells is USELESS. It was ALWAYS useless. He is, and always has been, a scammer, a cheat, a charlatan. You thought Queen dunked him in the acid because he was a good worker who suddenly started getting worse results? No! It's because he was lying about something or other and as soon as he didn't have help from the other side everyone found out and was rightly pissed off about it.Did you think he was seriously a totally honest guy who just happened to be down on his luck? You MEET the rest of his kind, the "functional" ones all sell worthless crap too!
>>730066093i agree. deltarune is a losing game
>>730065483>Player Angel vs Noelle AngelThese aren't necessarily contradictoryNoelle is definitely not "THE Angel" worshiped in the Hometown religion and addressed in The Prophecy. The Angel is depicted in The Prophecy, and Susie reacts to seeing it with confusion and bewilderment, apparently unsure of what she's even looking at. That's probably not a depiction of Noelle.But Noelle could still fulfill the role of "The Angel" in some symbolic way, like how the legend in Undertale has multiple characters that could interpreted as fulfilling the role of "The Angel." The Prophecy speaks of the Three Heroes, along with "The Girl" separately. The Delta Rune depicts the Three Heroes represented by the triangles with The Angel above them; Noelle could be this fourth figure.THE Angel is likely the player, in some sense. The Angel is described as watching over characters, guiding them, and using its power to light their way. We literally watch over the world from a top-down perspective (diegetically established several times in Chapter 3 alone), guide Kris and the others with our commands, and use "our power" to light up the dark and seal the fountains. "Raise Up Your Bat" makes the same allusion to "your heart" shall "guide you" and "shine you the way." The Titan combines four angelic wings with a realistic human face which gets replaced by a four-pointed star like a SAVE point. It's not too subtle.
>>730066940I thought for sure we were gonna see papyrus. I'm starting to think we won't now.
so what the hell is northern light supposed to be and why has nobody ever commented on the blatant dragon/drake hanging out in the place?
>>730072390If Gaster notices you entering a specific character's name in the vessel screen, it means they will be relevant later, i.e. Gerson
>>730072740>Bratty and Catty are going to be relevant
>>730061543>somehow is way more likeable in DT over UT (besides aborted geno)How did Toby do it?
>>730056843I don't think Toby is going to make Toriel that comically cruel, because I assume Toriel split from Asgore because of what he took the blame for/did and how it changed him
>>730066524>Dess influenced Kris into hating anime because her mom is a weeb >Alphys got her teaching job because Carol thinks she has good taste
Trad Susie when?
>>730074713
The Player is GodNoelle is Jesus The Soul is the Holly Spirit
>>730068752issue also means offspring 'completed without issue' = completed without eggs
>>730045952Yes I am actually.
>>730045952guys, what if chapter 5 drops on Valentine's day? It would make sense considering it's the festival and most likely a moment of picking a waifu for Kris
>>730077769Don't expect it before June at the earliest
>>730077769that'd be cute but it's definitely not going to happen
>>730077769>kriselle has a dedicated route(but no no no straight White girl=bad end you can't have that)>main route is default suselle>true ending will be mended suselle>krusie never ever
>>730078821Kriselle happens on Weird Route, Krusie on Normal Route and Suselle is a red herring fakeout that happens only on tumblr yuri fanfics
>>730079015Suselle has nothing reccuring so it won't happen
>>730077769No fucking way it drops on Valentine's day, even if his team suddenly became competent and were able to port and bugtest within a couple of weeks, there's still the problem of the jap translation taking for fucking ever.
>>730055405>Some people probably didn't even understand who she was with the curtain bit.Oh, so that was the cactus? Didn't get it until now.
>>730080924yeah, iirc she gives kris a sword that's a cactus needle
Posting Noelle rq
>>730081618Have another, now
>>730077769I don't expect earlier than july.
So is Kris AMAB or AFAB?
>>730082713the one that allows noelle to still be a lesbian and berdly to still be straight of course
>>730082713>>730083989Reagan closing the asylums was a mistakeMental illness
>>730059432Well, thankfully I had a response planned in the case it was AI and a response in the case it wasn't! Completely planned ahead!
>>730060048Something Something prophecy.
>>730079190What is this a reference to? FFX?
>>730060642They literally never talk about anything. Probably a consequence of having a party system unlike Undertale. They can't talk about anything less they get into the know of the story too early.
>>730063552She explicitly says she doesn't like her. Frisk is one of the few people Alphys blatantly rejects.
>>730085661Yes, she likes (You), not Frisk. One of the only times player is mentioned in the game.
>>730066940More people joining the Dark World expeditions and that Noelle would be a party member in Chapter 4. I genuinely thought Chapter 2 was the blueprint and the next Dark Worlds would have other lightners playing the role of Berdly.
>>730068091Closest you will get is the Knight being associated with 999.
>>730072713I didn't comment on it because I didn't see it. Probably a Susie connection of some sort.
>>730077769Nigga that's next month. It's not happening. Get your shipper brain checked.
>>730083989The best evidence for Berdly being straight is how he's annoying and sucks and Toby Fox would deliberately write a straight character you're supposed to hate, because he hates straight people.
who'd make the better mom susie or noelle?
I would like to have with Susie while Noelle is tied up with a vibrator in her pussy as she is forced to watch.
>>730085674Never ever. Only in IMAGINATION.
>>730061892it was pretty funny
>>730086370Noelle. She's more trad
>>730054357mtf or ftm
>>730086686If Kris is a tranny they would be FTM because they are a super manlet.
>>730052083>>when in game it's closer to a dagger than an actual swordwe never see the black shard depicted visually in-game outside of as a literal shard on the ground or in abstract form as kris' regular sword
>>730087115The description of the item does say it's a dagger like shard of the black knife, though.
>>730087630Black katana is also described as a Black Shard, tho.
>>730088391You mean Carol's katana? Yeah, Asgore describes it as such, but he could be describing his own black shard.
>>730045952I don't understand how people like this shit
>>730086370Susie. She's more tard
>>730088797i think asgore is describing his own black shard and not the katana because i interpreted his dialogue as meaning that people would have to believe him now he had the black shard
Dont you guys think this game is taking itself too seriously and going too far? At this point even it feels like Im reading about delta rune for 10+ years.Undertale was nice, it was new and funny, but now deltarune feels like its more about the fanbase than about the game and gameplay... you need to have take the game seriously and ligth heartedly, wasnt that the whole shtick of UT? You guys are going over it again? It seriously cant be because you ship anthropomorphic characters, right anon?
>>730089109The katana is black like the black knife but it could also be Asgore has his own shard that he got from beating the knight, too.
>>730079190lol
>>730089147That's just because of the WAITing. I prefer Undertale, too, but Deltarune so far is good, too. And it's not because I ship anyone, I just like the schizo and gaster stuff.
>>730045952Feels like this could be telling about the echo flowers
>>730089147wym? it have plenty of comedic moments
>>730088853autism
>>730089291That shy girl is Kris. Krusiebros hold the LINE.
>>730089291>people still in denial that he is going to make suselle canon
>>730089392I did like the esoteric and borderline occult themes, tooIm sure you and most fans are right in giving it its props, I remember being obsessed with UT and getting more and more friends to try it and we all talked about our runs.But then Im presented with an interesting OP like this one and lo and behold, most of the replies are fanart of >buff purple croc lady< and ((smug bird guy))....is this what getting old feels like? Maybe I should cut my losses and watch a youtube essay feeding me the bullet points from deltarune so I can finally get it.(I've personally only played that .exe file that was like a demo for deltarune, on my work PC at the time because I was at the clock on my internship)
>>730089893>But then Im presented with an interesting OP like this one and lo and behold, most of the replies are fanart of >buff purple croc lady< and ((smug bird guy))That's because it has been months since the game came out, so most people just post their favorites and waifus. The demo of Chapter 1 and 2 is free, and the game should still be on sale. Now it's your chance to play it. If you enjoyed Undertale you will like this game. A lot of what made Undertale great is still present.
Jockington, who is "most popular guy in town" is a thematic contrasts with the fun gang who are lonely as shit before the events of the game.I struggled to understand his motivation as a demon, since he appears to genuinely care about Catti. I think he just wants to be popular because before he was summoned to Hometown he existed in the same place of existence as Ralsei with nobody else for company.But then, is Ralsei a demon too?A snake and a goat are both strong demonic themes.
>>730090730Jockington is a gag character. That's all there is to it.
>>730090730Jockington is a monster. Monsters have all kinds of anatomy, see: Temmie, Business Manticore, etc.
>>730090850Nope, incorrect.
>>730090893Angels and demons exist as a class separate from normal monsters according to Deltarune religion.
>all angels are goners>all demons are titans
>>730085489They talk diring pre-ch3 walk and before and after Mike fight.
>>730086364There are no straight, gay or lesbian characters in Deltarune. There are only bisexuals.
>This is Kris’ worst nightmare
>>730049267This design is too good for DR. They'll make Asgore seem like a brooding loser.
>>730091367Asgore will be cool in Chapter 5, but then return to being a loser in Chapters 6-7.
>>730091358hahaohhh nooooooo
>>7300914786 7 geeg
>>730091478lol no, he'll be thoroughly humiliated in chapter 5, you'll see
>>730090915Correct. He will grow the beard, people will joke about it, and there goes his relevance. He's the nega Jerry of the game.
>>730091179Yeah, they just don't talk about lore shit.
Do you think Alphys can pleasure herself with her own tail
Have there been any new secrets or anything found since this came out? I think it’s really weird that you can break a Chapter 1 enemy recruitment in chapter 3 but I don’t know how schizo this game is
>>730086370Susie would be a fun trad mom, noelle would be as boring and cringe as Toriel
>>730089291Toby teasing it only means it wont happen due to spoilers which toby hates more than any ship
>>730091860>Before the clock strikes midnight, the shadow will grow!>O, the shadow will grow, serpentine!>Even when the clock ran back, the shadow was growing!>A patch of shadow, slithering on, slithering on, serpentine!
>>730061892It is funny
Kris is a women and she is my wife
>>730092623Why do ESL Indians want their male self insert to be a girl?
>>730092623>t. Berdly
>>730091358How would kris and Noelle fair as teen parents?
>>730092315This is talking abou5 darkness, Jockington LEECH.
Who proudsecondary here?
>>730092693Kris literally isn't your self-insert, I hate shiptards.
>>730092754Why would anyone draw character without any context?
>>730092192That's 100% a glitch born from oversight.
>>730092798He is, tard. When you get inner texts of the surrounding like "you wonder if Susie recognize you if you used a different flavor shampoo" it is Kris wondering about it, but it still framed as YOU and from your perspective. You are Kris whenever you are inside him. He is your self insertion.
>>730092192>I think it’s really weird that you can break a Chapter 1 enemy recruitment in chapter 3What? Are you talking about Pippins?
>>730092932I hope we get more scenes of Kris rejecting your choices and beating you with a hockey stick for each retard self-insert post.
>>730093027No the uhhhh dust bunny guys. When you blow on the dirty bunnies in chapter 3 to clean them, some become the rabbit from chapter 1. Then you can attack and break that recruit
>>730093219Kris without YOU is literally some alien force possesing him. You think FRIEND cucking you means Kris is not your self insertion?
>>730060594WaitDid toby turn alphys into a shipper
>>730092749>doesn't know what a five o' clock shadow isget out
>>730093345Noelle literally says soulless Kris sounds like the real Kris in the weird route. Good bait, I replied.
Expectations should consider what is plausible.Asgore won't be a crazy mastermind who killed children in Deltarune, it'll be revealed whatever he did made sense with the information he had but didn't make sense for Toriel's perspective and that ruined their relationship, it's a fair and nuanced situation. No, Asgore won't save his marriage, he won't get Toriel back, they will go back to being on talking terms and be friendly to each other but not much else. He'll find love again much like Toriel's giving Kris a new bone daddy and everyone will be happy about it (for like 5 minutes until the game on track to the final act).
>>730093845A lot of people seem to just not care about writing conventions at all and just want to be surprised.
>>730093693Damn, Toby loves setting up for jokes.
>>730092315>>730093693It could also be referencing FRIEND since he seems to remember resets some how
is ICE E still relevant?is he a cryptid?
>>730093845if asgore's able to prove whatever happened why would it not save his marriage? "I'm so sorry I didn't believe you and you were right this entire time, but you still gave me the ick so eh."
>>730094153I don't think there's much time left in the game to develop ICE E, I can maybe see the pizza shop getting dark worlded, but ultimately the bunker is a lock, and ch5 seems to be in flower king, so it'd be ch6 or nothing unless there's a random ICE E darkner in a chapter
>>730094193Once women get the ick it's over, besides. asgore has that obsessive personality that Toriel seems to dislike more than whatever he did
>>730094383Asgore has more in common with Harrier Du Bois from Disco Elysium than people realise...
>>730094321Ch6 being in a dingy PizzaHut wouldn't be thematically appropriate I think.
>>730094153He's in the pipes for some reason. That's it, though.
>>730094193>"I'm so sorry I didn't believe you and you were right this entire time, but you still gave me the ick so eh."This is literally what a woman would do though.
>>730093386>turn intoanon did you not talk to her in Undertale's ending
If Ralsei is a demon does that mean he's Prince of Hell?
>>730094193This is assuming Asgore was actually right and didn't genuinely fuck up.
>>730094836Ralsei is an anagram of Asriel. Asriel is also a variation of Azrael, which is the Arabic name for the Angel of Death
>>730094591Ok but Eram being Nightmare ICE E would be funny as fuck
>>730047468the last fight will be in full 3D
>>730091860>nega JerryTerry already exist in Deltarune
>>730095404He's Anti-Jerry then
>>730095106I like this art. The Deeper Darkness enemies should look out of Middens
>>730049634I wanna point out that the white mage nor the brown deer appear in board 3 despite the fact that Noelle is still extremely relevant to the story. I think the black deer being controllable by the player is foreshadowing for us taking control of Noelle like people were already anticipating, except it's Noelle in the Knight armor. The Kris slash might be because Kris is finally free from our control once we grab Noelle and he wants us dead.
>>730095106>>730095748Friend has a design already.
>>730095821that's FRIEND attached to a corpse's hand's darkner, though
>>730095906... which is just friend anyways.
>>730095768Expanding on this, I don't think Mini Kris automatically slashes us. Kris is facing away from us for the entirety of the boards so his inputs on the controller are hidden from us. I think when we take control of the black monster Kris gains full control of Mini Kris and waits for is to get close so he can attack us, maybe thinking he can actually hurt us that way. The way the scene plays out means people can interpret it as an automatic action from the game Kris is playing, but I think Kris attacked us of his own volition.
>>730095906FRIEND was a chair in the cutscene thoughbeit. I thought this was established all the way back to 2022.
>>730096440I can't believe Frisk is a chud baby that disrespects Toby.
>>730096440Why Chara is so bald?
>>730096696Evil chud baby.
>>730060048They're looking for something in Dark Worlds and entrusting Kris to close up the fountains with the SOUL afterwards.
>>730097218Also kidnapping people for evil sacrifice reasons.
>>730096978Where does Kris stand in this?
Kris and The Knight aren't working together, they're friendly, in a anime rivals sort of way but you can't tell me that The Knight summoned a Titan and expected Kris to defeat it.The Titan would've killed Kris and started the destruction of the world.Also, if Kris was fine with that, he wouldn't have stopped it.
>>730097636>but you can't tell me that The Knight summoned a Titan and expected Kris to defeat it.Why not?He's already protected by the prophency.
>>730097710NTA but I think people are giving the prophecy way too much importance. Some characters might be aware of it but I doubt most of them would let it dictate their actions in the way you're describing. The prophecy might SAY that the heroes could win but there's no way to know until they actually fight it, and the player even being able to get a game over and leave the game that way means the prophecy is fallible.
>>730097489Neutral baby.
>>730097636The Titan was a strength vibe check.
>>730097636Why would the knight start the roaring when there's a player there to stop it and not the 3 times the player was nowhere near the fountain
Give me one(1) logical reason why Raise Up Your Bat would be used when Noelle is going full schizo in the weird routehttps://youtu.be/o7dFH0R7EI8?si=dB3Exp3IOsppVG3S
>>730098698It's just a generic guitar loop.
>>730098812If it was just a generic song there would be no reason to slow it down to the point of being unrecognizable. It's literally the bassline from Raise Up Your Bat, so why does it play HERE of all places?
>>730096440>not taking the vessel pill
>>730098894I'm musically stupid and I couldn't recognize this is part of raise up your bat
>>730098894Leitmotifs can just show up anywhere, man. The bassline for The Legend shows up as a motif in several other songs, Hip Shop made its way to the Green Room and TV World, and the motif to Lost Girl showed up in the Chapter 5 Mike scenese and Thrash Machine in the Chapter 1 soundtrack at the last 10 seconds.
>>730058094
>>730098894which timestamp of this is d.ogghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbdMyvH4rn8I don't hear any organs in raise up your bat but do in d.ogg
>>730058094>>730099308YOUR LONG
The real surprise twist is that Noelle was the mean girl and Susie was the heckin innocent church girl all along.
>>730099141>The LegendThis song can actually potentially appear anywhere because it's a primary melody for the game.>Hip ShopRouxls is in the Green Room and Hip Shop isn't exactly some major melody that would point to something significant anyway>Lost GirlThe Mikes are copying a character tied directly to Noelle and the Thrash Machine segment is a metaphor for the Vessel creation segment which ends in your Vessel being lost, which itself is a parallel to the Holidays losing Dess>>730099362It's not ripped straight from Raise Up Your Bat but the melody d.ogg uses is the exact same as the bassline intro of the song
>>730099431What would Susie's version of Snowgrave be?
>>730099507chapter 1's start but every chapter
>>730098957Source for that female Vessel.
i miss my wife
>>730098698We Omori here and Noelle snowgraved Dess, which is why Noelle refuses to accept it snowed. It snowed and Noelle put her sister on ice.
I like Deltarune threads.Anons talking about vidya makes me happy.
>>730099672I actually think it's probably something like this too. This whole game is like playing Omori from Basil's perspective or something, except the dream worlds Noelle makes are actually a threat to more than just herself.
>>730099618r*ddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/1q3q6ch/you_want_to_regain_your_vessel_to_fight_back/
>>730099650If So Sorry returned she can as well.
>>730099740Noelle snowgraving Dess is why she enters a trance when looking at a freezer. She is blocking out her traumatic memories.
>>730099926Thanks, anon.Even women want to kek Dess. Poor doe.
Kris wants to save THIS?
>>730100089
>>730096978I will take the evil one, 50/50 she kills me or protects me when she’s older
>>730100123Dess being Toby’s Vriska makes too much sense. It’s gonna cause so much seethe
>>730100123Hell yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAYUDDdCp9w
>>730100017It helps explain the egg rooms too. Whoever is making the fountains probably attended the same therapy sessions as Kris, and that might be why the unnamed character says "This is where we draw and DON'T kill each other!"
>>730100123Dess Vriska... I could never imagine Dess being evil, but now I get itWhat an evil bitch
>>730047440holy fuck that pic gitwm
>>730092754IS THATA
>>730098698>why Raise Up Your Bat would be used when Noelle is about to kill Berdly"When you have a bat,everything looks like a ball"
NOELLE IS DESSDESS WAS NEVER A REAL PERSON
>>730100994Importantly the song only starts to play AFTER Noelle realizes she's talking to Berdly
>>730056843ramb is such a funny little fella
>>730073484her being a drunkard could be foreshadowing, maybe she slung some real mean shit towards dess for being you know rebellious and her son's gf and shit which spurred her to run awayat which point whatever incident happened with her happens and she dessappearsthere's a lot of holes on this explanation though, although you can explain some of them if you reach
>>730100123Decem8er...
>>730100202Good one can do the same as she is stronger. Trust in pacifism.
>>730100295God, Toby really did rip off Omori. Now we just need Kris to have DID like Sunny/Omori does.
>>730101445I think it's more likely for Carol to do this in order to explain why she wants Dess back so hard. Because she feels guilty.
I'm really invested in the weird route at this point>Chapter 4 where you think of Noelle and you hear a stab soundI can't wait for 5.
>>730101887she doesn't needs an extra reason to want her back she's her mom alreadyi also thought it'd be interesting if carol used to be way more relaxed and became strict as fuck in response to dess disappearing but there's literally 0 proof for this it would just kinda make sense
>>730101785Who said Kris had to be the one with a fake personality?
>>730102128Yes, but Toby likes angst and she feeling guilty would add double angst.
Pretty much the most compelling evidence for kris being a dude much less a self insert is that fact that Toby blatantly projected a lot of his own feelings are struggling onto kris and even then that just means kris is likely TOBY’S standin
>>730102150Technically Kris already has a fake personality between the SOUL and soulless Kris.
>>730100123Why the long face?
>Catti's, My Friend.People are going to look back at how obvious the foreshadowing is and wonder how people couldn't put 1+1 together.
>>730100089I want to say the artist is probably a troon but also trannies are physically incapable of keeping that fact about themselves a secret so yeah no femoids do yearn to cuck the doe
>>730102247why does no one outside of here ever bring up that Kris's design is straight up varik but with different colors
>>730100123Can you blame him?
>>730102302It's be a pretty compelling foil to have an antagonist that's only faking having their agency taken from them versus a protagonist who actually has lost their autonomy
>>730092754>Nolle after the weird routeDamn Kris you gay fuck
>>730102812rapeRAPE
>>730093845Nah, Tobys parents didnt divorce. He will fix it to subvert Undertale ending
>>730102812doe erotic
>>730102650Asriel actually has fangirls so I believe it could be an actual women as well.
>>730102774True since the Knight is Kris's SOUL while we play as OG Kris. Cinema.
Is Ralsei Kris' knife?
So the player is the SOUL right?Why can't it be Kris' soul, they've just removed from their own body?
>>730104491Gaster SURVEY_PROGRAM shenanigans + strong implication that the SOUL we inhabit does not belong to/is alien to Kris and beyond his control.
>>730104491why would Kris' soul know about the events of Undertale such that you make dialogue choice references to it
>>730104371I think Ralsei is Kris' shadow but a knife being desperate to not be violent is a cool idea
>>730104491The big problem is the goner maker section plus the fact the SOUL remembers Undertale.
>>730104371I still think Ralsei isn't something Kris is carrying on him, on account of him appearing from some random location instead of near Kris.
>>730104951Lancer and Rouxls also appear in random locations when carried along
>>730105056Rouxls has a animation where he falls out of your pocket while you're dropping into the dark world, the little shining light.That little detail makes the doubt even stronger actually.
>>730105056Starwalker too but Kris won't let us see his item for some reason
>>730104491You saw it being made at the startLike in undertale is something you makeYou have separate agency over it, if it was kris's you would had better control over himThe whole idea of deltarune is that you and kris are seoarate beings, so why make that soul his even?Why would you use kris's soul for your vessel?The whole concept just fails
>>730105136>StarwalkerAre you headcanoning every reappearing darkner as something Kris is hiding in his pocket
>>730103768>girl fans want to Asriel>guy fans have latent homosexual lusts brought forth by Asriel and they also want himHow tf does he do it? The Hyperdeath twink Asriel form is just one heavily scripted boss fight that doesn’t even have a sprite in the overworld in UT and he hasn’t even shown up in at all IN DR, and yet everyone wants to grope his dick.
>>730104371No>>730104491The physical SOUL is Kris's own SOULYou are a metaphysical entity ("demon") that has possessed the SOUL and can control Kris through it
You know, Ralsei being a knife could explain his scarves. They could be the wrap on the handle. His hat could be the sheathe too.
>>730105369sorry charafag, this is not the same game
>>730104951Ralsei is probably closer to whatever is going on with titans and titan spawn than an actual object-based darkner. He's "the prince alone in deepest dark" after all. No point in trying to guess based off an assumption.
>>730105238No I think Starwalker specifically is something Kris is keeping out of our light world inventory view like his knife and the thornring on the weird route. Even though he joins at the same time Rouxls and Lancer does we don't get to see what he is.
>>730105415It's not "You are literally Chara from Undertale"It's "Chara" in Undertale was the player analogue, and the weird shit they say in the Genocide ending only really makes sense in the context of Toby trying to explain the diegetic justification for the player controlling FriskDeltarune is repeating the same setup without the confusing complexity of having this "demon" share an identity with a real character in the story. There's no middleman in Deltarune, it's just You and Kris. But You are still a person sitting in front of a computer and do not have a soul to put into the video game, you have to borrow Kris's.
>>730105587You just repeated what I said.Yes, you are headcanoning every reappearing darkner as something Kris is hiding in his pocket
>>730105840how else would you describe an object Kris has but isn't in the inventory? What is "headcanon" about that?
>>730105238>>730105840Starwalker enters your inventory in Chapter 2 and reappears in later Chapters only if you went out of your way to find him in Chapter 1
>>730104371Betting on headband until I die because I am a stubborn headbandfag.
>>730105953The question is whether every single reappearing darkner is in Kris' inventory, not whether he's putting them in his literal pockets, you actual dunce.
>>730105369>that has possessed the SOULBut the soul is summoned in the intro as "us". The soul exists before we are in Kris. The connection is the soul appearing.
>>730105241He's the reason Undertale happens, simple as. Although I mostly see him having fangirls in eastern places so I assume it's just think lovers, yet people that don't like super gay ones like Ralsei.
>>730105767>and do not have a soul to put into the video game,>Deltarune fans are soulless golems Big if true.
>>730105840I mean, it literally has to be on Kris’s pocket or Susie’s.
>>730105840Yeah I'm agreeing, but I'm pointing out Starwalker because he only becomes a recurring character once we acquire him, which means he must be an item we just can't see
>>730102650I'm pretty sure there was another femoid who shipped their vessel self insert with tenna
Before the thread ends, can I get qrd on new things we got with this ARG?
>>730106712Tenna is popular with women so that makes sense.Also all these OCs look like Chara wtf
>>730106737We honestly didn't get that much, but it seems to be leading to another ARG if you got a 'move forward with this' answer
>>730106891>All humans look the sameOkay asriel The result of years of artistd drawing chara wrong
>>730106183Ralsei is for the people who want a “surrogate-girl” femboy to dominate.Asriel is for the people want a cool, but sensitive buddy who’s down for becoming “more than friends”.At least that’s how I see it when observing the fandom.
>>730106737noelle is canonically 16finally those people saying they are 12/middle schoolers can shut the fuck up
>>730107097doesn't it give the first time response to a couple other answers too
>>730107097Just like people who said they were 17-18 just to pretend they weren't lewding teens
>>730107268afaik its only 16 years and 4 chapters
>>730107020>>730107097Thanks
>>730107078but it does look like gray Chara despite the Vessel being gray FriskWomen are weird.
>>730106183>think*Twink. You get my point.
>>730106737>Shadow crystals contain determination>Kris fears that if he changed somehow Susie will not recognoize him
>>730106737
>>730107685>Women keep self inserting as frisk and charaKekAnyways its all due to the generic haircut and lack of details when people draw them, even kris sometimes looks like chara for the same reasons
>>730107890>After chapter 4's weird routeIs this confirmed to be part of the question?
>>730108098The ARG directly references the thank you scene from Chapter 4, so probably.
>>730108010We never left 2016. It will always live on in our hearts.
>>730106160We are undoubtedly represented by a red [[HeartShapedObject]], but this is not just a physical red SOUL. The SOUL is something Kris can grab and pull out of their chest, trap in a cage and beat with a stick, but it is also and at the same time a metaphysical pointer that can interface with the game elements, get pulled "out of the game" and be teleported through walls.If I wanted to be pedantic, I could also point out that the red [[HeartShapedObject]] in the intro sequence and Game Over screen is not the same sprite as the SOUL but a weirdly higher-resolution heart instead, perhaps reinforcing the idea that they are not the same object, but maybe that's a bit of a stretch.If we're asking "why would Kris's SOUL get summoned" my answer would then be that it doesn't have to be, the red heart abstractly represents us and doesn't become Kris until we become Kris. But if that's not satisfying it also can just be Kris's SOUL, it seems pretty clear to me that Kris becoming our vessel was always the plan from the start.The SOUL being Kris's is also a simpler solution because if the SOUL isn't Kris's, you have to answer the question "then what happened to Kris's SOUL?" and all the complications that come with that, like "where is Kris's SOUL now?," "how was Kris surviving without a SOUL?," "how did Kris lose their SOUL in the first place?," "why does Kris get hurt when the SOUL is damaged if it's not theirs?," etc.I have not seen a convincing theory that explains what happened to Kris's SOUL and addresses these complications, so I will continue to support my interpretation and believe the game when it says "Kris's SOUL"
Required reading for fully understanding and solving Deltarune>Mother 3>Live a Live>Omori>Umineko
What is it about krusie that makes it popular with the degenerate kind of Japanese women?
>>730109104Seacat sucks
>>730109104>Oneshot>OFF
>>730056259>>730056626I can't get it out of my head that she's basically SpongeBob. It ruins the fap. Thanks whoever gave me that brain virus.
>>730109176It's the most popular ship between the human protagonist of that game, which is the same reason they are horny for the other popular ships of Undertale, too.
>>730109176What are the top popular ship tags in Japan? Is Spamtenna also number 1 or does Krusie actually wins there?
>>730109814Explain as the thread dies. How is she redditbob?
>>730108897>"how was Kris surviving without a SOUL?,"Flowey can survive without a soul just fine. Kris was noted to be more zombie-like by Noelle, who has known him his entire life, which could be evidence that Kris was running on depleting determination fumes. The brain is where memories are stored, so it's not impossible for humans to function without a soul for a time.Regardless, the library having books on souls and being cockblocked out likely has direct plot implications for Kris, which wouldn't make sense if Kris' soul is Kris' soul because that's just the default of how people be.>"why does Kris get hurt when the SOUL is damaged if it's not theirs?,"Why do Ralsei and Susie get hurt? Why don't they comment on the heart doing the bullet dodging? Why doesn't KO'ing Kris end the battle? Video game.
>>730109814How the fuck is she Spongbob? She doesn't share anything with that character
>>730109104Aren't you forgetting something?
>>730109798Good catch I forgot to add them to the list
>>730109880Krusie or Spamtenna are the popular ones. In Undertale it's Frans, Sanscest and Chasriel. The best way to check it is probably by pixiv tags.
>>730109967I wouldn't tell people to read that no matter how relevant it was
>>730108897>"how was Kris surviving without a SOUL?,"My interpretation is that Kris only swapped SOULS the day the game started, just as the Knight and everything else showed up
New thread>>730083821
>>730110128Nigger STOP. This isn't supposed to be a general.
>>730109967If Penumbra theory were still alive I would've actually given Homestuck a shot. But now I don't give a single fuck about Hussie Zahaak.
>>730110128Not posting in a mentally ill fatfag threadThat thread will burn
>>730110060That's sabotaging their future understanding of Deltarune, anon.>>730110236You need it for other reasons. It is vital. You are NGMI at this rate.
>>730110128theres already a thread without fetishes>>730109794
>>730092742theyve got carols loaded ass who probably planned this from the start so they wouldnt have to worry about money at all
>This entire threadDid I miss a 2nd winter newsletter or something?
>>730104371Lightner weapons are just shit they keep with them. Susie's axe is a hairbrush, so the knife is almost certainly Kris's sword.
>>730112812It's Kris pencil already.
