What would you pick here?
Upgraded fire punch for sure, it'll mow bosses down.Anyways, the GOTY youtube account has been commenting on this game's videos promising a nomination. Apparently we're getting GOTY. Wonder how the sony fans will feel about this.
>>733341073ops mom
Fuck act III.
>>733341153Just become autistic and min-maxxy and breed for the perfect cat for hours and then do that three more times so you can finally go on your run and then get raped by the worst class ability and passives possible.
Look at this motherfucker. I didn't realize I was selectively breeding for shiteating bastards.
>get my shit kicked in first time i try the lab>come back prepared, round up my chaddest of chad project cats>plow through it but feel like i wasted some of my best warriors because it's such a short run the first time aroundwell at least i got monk now
>water puts out the candles in the Coven fight>the Coven tries to relight them on every turn>but if they are in a water tile they instantly go out again>only way to relight them in a water tile is if they randomly get splashed with lava in its last attackold hose is absolutely goated and will carry you
IN THE UNDERGROUND YOU'VE GOT TO MIND THE GOOPYOU'VE GOT TO GRAB A SCOOPAND START PILING UP THE POOP
New cheat droppedhttps://x.com/TylerGlaiel/status/2024258166180237405
>>733341256he has a paw on his tail... it needs to be burned.
Forsen is refusing to play this game because of the ugly art
>>733341017Oh, and to make it extra goofy, inspirational song (the song spell) targets all allies, gives them 1HP and +1 Damage.This affects the shadow and increases his healing/damage in turn. I can't quite work out if the attack of one increases the attack of the other at the same time but I think it does for one? Like, they're both hitting each other with an ability that scales off of damage and increases damage by 1.
>>733341359who
>>733341256daft cunt that kit ishe knows he has the pedigree
Got to the Throbbing Domain and had my 3 Cat loss.Any tips or class combination advice? Takes a long fucking time to get there and it would be nice to set myself up for success.
>>733341359Who?
>>733341241>and then get raped by the worst class ability and passives possibleYou mean you're not going in with the desired class abilities and passives already bred in?
>>733341359i don't even know who that is to be honest
This is my first time getting this far, what can I do?
>RNGslop
>>733341391Butcher/necromancer can serve as tanks with more damage and utility
>>733341445>>733341401>>733341389He has a rivalry with xqc and is one of the top streamers
>>733341460i think this is usually worth it no matter what
>>733341504Who??
>>733341504>streamerdon't care
>>733341460Just bite it why not
>>733341359Based
He made millions seethe
lmao
>>733341460it's tasty
>>733341418Another 18 hours of breeding! Bravo Edmund! I wish Isaac had this mechanic! I fucking LOVE waiting and micromanaging!
>>733341504A title as important as being the best janitor.
Buy an ad.
>>733341591>AnotherWhat the fuck were you breeding for up until now?
>>733341582I wish our cats looked like this
honestly i don't get why people keep saying this game's style is ugly in like a bad way
So what's Pidos best use case here lol
>cleave's resulting pickup changes if it hits hp, armor, or divine shieldThis game has infinite soul
Ponder the Tamers cat.Hmm...
Beating Guillotina with cancerous minion spam.
>unlock Tinker>basic attack requires a weapon and destroys it in the process>only spell just adds a 2 armor piece of equipmentholy shit this class sucks cocks this cat LITERALLY does nothing I'm doing a 3 cat run right now
>>733341582two of them
>>733341645I don't get it either
>>7333415822 CAT
>>733341784I'm going to Alice!
>>733341645because they have bad taste
>>733341761>Basic attack requires a weaponIt creates a weapon if you dont have one.create armor is pretty shit without any passive that gives Tech
>>733341645>butts poop and fart arent ugly
>>733341935None of those things are in that image.
>>733341784Stop making me want to fuck a cat
>>733341761If you're lucky the game will give you the ability to make turrets and if you get lucky again you'll get the option to turn them into rocket turrets.
>>733341504whoa dude that's crazy
>>733341985I think that ship has sailed
Not joking I literally had the Junji Ito hole before this and my thief got in the hole.I'm not getting in this one.
>>733341784the psychic class animations are too zesty
>>733341925it doesn't say that
tinkerer is useless in the beginning. One attack to craft, another turn to throw. Is he supposed to be a melee fighter or something?
I really like the game but fuck it's so slow.I just finished a run that took me over 1 hour. It gave me 100 food and 70 coins, which did not even allow me to purchase a furniture, so all I did was breed some cats and that's it.Game could be a bit less shitty about money considering how expensive everything is.
>>733342036Uh does it usually come back as an enemy?I am in a bit of trouble here.
>>733342082that's because you already have a weaponwhen you stop having it then that changes
>>733341502Yeah, I could see some Soul Link shenanigans being useful.I've been pretty consistently using Butchers since I first unlocked the class. Really liked the class.Debating whether or not to bring a Cleric. Had a fun run where a Druid was my main healer and I like the class but not sure if I should be experimenting here or just using solid consistent classes.
>Literally nothing, good or bad, just nothingok i guess, thanks for the furniture
>>733342082Take the weapon off.If you dont have a weapon the basic attack changes to create weaponIf you do have a weapon ithe basic attack changes to throw weapon
Tinkerer is fun sometimes
When should you start giving a shit about breeding? I've tried and get some decent stat ones going but it feels counter productive just running trash on runs.
>>733342113He’s like necromancer where he has different builds that do wildly different things and has so many skills it’s rare for it to come together
>>733342181Butcher and necro can also fill in as a cleric with some of their moves I guess both are a mix of the 2 in the end
>>733342221I always have fun with the Tinkerer, whether we win or lose is another matter entirely.
The bunker is atmospheric horror. I get scared when I go into that level.
>>733342238Early on just keep all the ones with good stats in the same roomOnce you get 3 rooms you can start going for 7 in all stats/merging mutations
>>733341784Why is alice's mouth like that
how much more damage do attacks from behind deal
>>733342238Once you get tink's upgrades and at least 3-4 rooms you can maximize the genics aspect.>>733342330I like all the American fiction referencing act 2 has in general>>73334238425% more
Just when I think this game's soundtrack can't surprise me anymore, I get slapped with Pyrophina's theme.
>>733342181you only think the new classes aren't consistent cuz you haven't tried them enoughbutcher is probably the most cpnsistent class in the game hands down, the stats it gives and the basic utility of the cleaver diagonal range, the pickups it creates and the hook make it basically impossible to have a "bricked" butcherdruid in my experience is at least decent and pretty versatile, usually is a great support or melee fighter with the forms but can also regularly carry runs with summon spam, the bird and attack buffs are inherently very useful similarly to butcher
>>733342082It did when you first put the class collar onRead you dumb retard
>>733342297Yeah, I've had the Butcher ability to create health items pretty consistently. Pretty late in the run I realized I could just chuck them to allies directly and they don't need to be on the ground.
Most fuckable cats?
>>733342384Seems to be 1.5x
>>733342534GuillotinaShe wants her cream
>>733342221I once had a Tinkerer with the passive that makes weapons explode when they break, plus the one that doubles armor effects. I gave him the necklace that spawns a shadow clone, so two clones would appear at turn start. Every time I threw a weapon, half the battlefield would blow up, it was very funny
You can tell this game is already gentrified when that one pedo is stalking threads and obsessively first posting
>>733342565retard
>>733342534zodiac, marshmallow, alice, lucy and morana
>>733341073>cycled nearly 30 days trying to breed the next generation>cats would barely fuckMaybe I just got lucky early on, but man, it's looking grim for the mutation I've been trying to keep. I barely have any space for furniture in the room for my primary stock. Libido shouldn't have been an issue. Wondering if the love mechanic was biting me.
>>733341073>Get to the Dybbuk for the first time>Realize that none of my cats have AOE>I'm forced to back it into a corner and trade blows as it grinds through my party>It possesses my ranged cat with unlimited crits at full healthFuck me, I eventually won but that was fucking brutal.
nice little bow on top
what's the normalfag discourse about this game?i mean it is pretty open about the pedo-furry-guro sub themes
>>733342494Yeah, I fucked up brought an inbred cat into a round as my Butcher. Had Confusion for the first two rounds of every combat and was still a very useful class.Druid feels like you could fuck up if you don't specialize and since I've never done a transformation run with them, I'm less comfortable.
i beat gullotina thricesurely, i'm done with her now
This is my new breeding method. My goal is to create lots of variety of high stat cats with zero inbreeding whatsoever.
>>733342810Shitlibs are shrieking about muh problematic voice cameos. Everyone to the right of them seems to love it.
I still haven't tried the desert :3
Edmund...
>>733342906>no poop fight club room>0/10>shit build
>>733342991That's my plan later lol. First I want a bunch of all 7 cats.
Aragorn is dual wielder, what would Tolkien think of this?
>>733342906seems much better than my strat of throwing a bunch of dangerously close to inbreeding cats and every single stray into 1 room full of furniture to maximize baby generation and reduce inbreeding
>>733343017Only the strong survive.
>down syndrome makes perfect fighters
>>733342939how many hours
>>733341073Fire punch, specifically because I'm running with a bunch of fire synergy items.
>>73334317260 something :3
>>733341359>Some faggot streamer has an opinion for faggotsOkay?
>>733342509Fuck you faggot there was no reason to read it because I was going to pick the collar regardless since I just unlocked it
>>733342238New Game+Stats don't matter, breed for skills and passives.
what's the difference between range and reach?
>>73334256525% additional damage rounded up.
>Top hat and monocle isn't a doctor fetus comboEDMUND YOU HACK
>>733341582Goodbye CPU
>>733343172Not him, but I've been chipping away at meta progression for 28 hours. Haven't attempted Boneyard yet.
>>733343275Need some more context.
>>733342565>>733342672
Am I missing something or is Psychic hands-down the worst class? (jester and collarless need not apply)
>>733343296You also need the fetus in a jar, dipshit.
how high does tinkerer's tech go
>cat default spawned with heal>decided to make him a paladin>it workshow do I breed these fucker so I can have a self healing team?
>>733343396think it's 3 stacks then you get a rocket launcher. or a sniper maybe.
>>733343404Redpill me on Tank.I only used it on the initial run and never again and I'm almost through act 2.
Getting spoiled on the story and levels because Ridiculon uploaded all the end game shit.Sorry I cant just not listen to Alone in the Dark.
>play for a few hours, get through caves and junkyardi feel like i'm not really making much progress. it takes about an hour to do a run, but i need to donate 20 cats from a run for the next upgrade, that's 5 hours of cats. and the breeding is very inconsistent, for a game that has the word eugenics in its title, it sure is hard to make them have sex. money is so scarce, it feels like i'll have to pour in eight or more hours to make even a little progress. and you can only have 99 coins in a run, meanwhile all this furniture costs 100+it's honestly frustrating
>>733343396Up to 3 is used per craft, you can store infinite amount
>>733343391Read the fucking passive you illiterate fuck
>>733343172The difficulty in Act 2 is wacked. Bunker is easier than desert, and my one sucessful run in Crater is fucking miserable. Having every fucking enemy hurt you for attacking it is annoying game design.
>>733343396How many ways are there to raise tech? So far I only seen it on the catbot upgrade
>>733341073Just got to the moon for the first time, and heard>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPYP2YcYzpcholy fuck I ascended, this OST is kino
>get to the moon miniboss>okay I guess it's just these two guys that injure you if you get close>go all in and destroy one with my thief>comes back to life without warning and gets another turn>cripples my thief twice and downs themCool.
>>733343503You can just go through multiple days very rapidly you dont need to do an adventure every ingame day
>get two cats with cancer, a mother and son>send them on an adventure to build up mutations>they come back, mother stops breeding because her lover is dead>son absolutely refuses to mate with any of the single females i placed in his room>like six days later i absent-mindedly toss the mother into his room during some remodeling >he immediately breeds his mom>their kitten is born gayAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH!!!!
>>733343371Useful Psychic skills I have found so far>Confusion spam (Very good on bosses, only 4 mana)>Make another cat go again during the round (stackable, 10 mana)>Fast forward, move all cats to go next in turn orderAlso good for the killing specific low health enemies at any range, helps for some gimmick bosses. Other than that that it's pretty catshit. Multiple passives have little to no redeeming features and may as well be ailments. I hade one where the passive was something like "after you x amount of mana, use a random skill and grief your whole team."
>>733343275range is for ranged attacks and reach is for melee attacks
>>733343557Theres a passive where getting pickups gives techAnother where tech never drops below 1Some skills create tech
>finally get my first inbred-enough cat that it shows up in the HUD>check family tree>a descendant of the 2 cats I got in the tutorialweird feeling to see them againsurprised it took so long for inbreeding to happen. I still don't have enough rooms to really quarantine the cats from each other.
>>733341073I really wish the game had a run history on it. I like seeing old teams and team names.
>have the passive that increases tech by 1 for every pickup>making robocat increases tech by 1>it actually resets my tech back to 1Did I read this wrong?
My ranger got a disorder that gives it +2 charisma and full hp at the start but it can't regen mana. Also has the skill that gives it an extra attack the turn after so starting on turn 2 it becomes a walking turret.
>>733343371It can be good if you get certain skills like the one that lets another cat act immediately after you without deleting their natural turn, the ability to cause an enemy to attack a nearby enemy, the passive that makes floating glass whenever you use your pull attack. The worst one is when the game hands you the shitty teleport back to your last position at the end of turn skill, does ten damage but will always result in your squishy psychic right in front of the enemy.
Clever kitty
>>733343464tank + thorns or bleed on hit is pretty good.I'm also in Act 2 though, so I don't know
>>733341784haha what if she used her psychic powers to hover a lot of food into her mouth and she would get really really fat hahah what if haha
>>733343464melee range controller
according to vinesauce edmund explicitly asked for some people to do their regular voice for their submission instead of or in addition to doing meows
I like those robots that throw romans in Das Future when they die. Shit like that is when you know you're playing GOTY.
>>733343464it's not really a tank in the traditional sense. you want to pick up skills that can move allies or enemies mostly, and swap with allies who are in danger so they take the hits.
>>733342120Damn I really don't get the kitty back.
>doing infested sidequest>get my best cats and items>fighter gets a cursed item that utterly ruins his basic attack in the first eventfuck you steakmund
>>733343905Doesn't tech reset entirely when you use it?So you used all your tech, and then went back to one after crafting robocat
>>733341784>The fellatio class
>>733343597you rike?
Fuck you throbbing king
>Champion Masks isn't a specific stat up per kill but varies between masks.Did not realise till now.
>>7333439053 Tech is spent on crafting anything be it weapons, armor or robots.You spent the tech on the catbot, which got 2-3 all stat buffs for it.
>>733343539>Bunker is easier than desert,the fuck it is
Just got to the bunker. Do i go hard path or am i going to be raped by it like in the crater? Are there any insta-kill-rape mobs perhaps?
So what are the best combos for each class?
>>733344294>154HOW
Is there a way to listen to the radio without hearing your cats meowing?
>only 28% of players have beaten Tinawtf are you all doing
>>733344410Turn the cat house volume down or just open the pause menu.
>>733344432Only 33% of people are past act 1 anon
>>733344392Tinkerer have an active to increase it by 3 damage (electrical) for 5 mana
is it me or does act 1 get harder after a whileI never lost it before unlocking act 2 and now I've failed several times
fucking trampy not hard but always seems to magically fuck up one of my cats randomly
any tips for making perfect cats?
>>733344432Im being bad at the game and having shit runs. Im trying to set up to have no cats with speed or constitution under 5 before I do act 2.
How is this remotely balanced
>>733344505Yes, enemies from later parts show up and you can even get elite enemy spawns.General layouts become harder too.I assume it's tied to total progression but it could be adaptive,
>>733344505well, the hard routes are much harder.
>>733341073Welp my honeymoon phase with this game is over.It's just not really fun anymore and relies way more on RNG than Isaac ever did (which you could easily put skill in Isaac, not so much in a spreadsheet simulator)
>>733344356Going in without equipment is harder into desert. Everything is spiny, the enemies are fucking annoying, you have to use water bottles, wait for rain, or hope your cats get a water ability. By the time you reach bunker, your cats are leveled enough to deal with the zealots and you can use the nukes to hurt other enemies. And Johnny is easy enough.
>>733344516make the good ones fuck and throw away anyone with a red stat
So are you just supposed to mindlessly grind the alley over and over to get retired cats to unlock shit at the start?This is a fucking slog of a game.
>>733344789Yeah it kind of is. Losing is so punishing and later acts require you to get good equipment for your cats before heading out.
>>733344789yeah that's how steakmund oes it
>>733342848Me too. I cleared Hell and now a fire godzilla is coming. I guess I need some water abilities and equipment
I never really care for stats while breeding, just mutations. Beat act 2 both sides and the mini bosses that attack the base super easily. I feel alot of people just never played trps or something, cause Isaac for example is 100x harder to me.
The combat is great but optimizing breeding is such a pain in the ass.
>>733344789if you're hella shit at the game sure. the thing to do is do runs, and bring back rewards. retire your cats and do the house upgrades.
>>733343253But this game is streamerslop for faggots
>>733344789No, Act 1 is entirely completable with a completely fresh team of basic strays with zero starting items.
finally did desert and i'm pretty sure the anons complaining about it are retarded
>>733344860Act 3 is where you need to grind for hours in order to get cats with all 7's, great skills built in and godly equipment. All so it can go to waste when you encounter a node that gives you multiple negative passives. Then it's back to the grind, chew slowly.
>>733344372>InstakillOutside of the minibosses, The bunker doesnt have that, instead it has a ton of melee enemies that punish you for autopiloting and just attacking whatever you can.A consistant theme is you want some form of crowdcontrol.
Why does no retard realize mutation furniture exist and you can take any fucking can and shove it into the cancer room and make it op over a few days
>>733344789Why are so many people acting like NPC upgrades have anything to do with progression? Progressing the game is entirely about clearing areas and doing quests? The NPC shit is all nice -to-have upgrades, you could easily progress without it, even the limited inventory.
WORKING WORKING WORKING WORKINGDOWN WITH THE DEVILDOWN WITG THE DEVILThat fight was too easy.
>>733344789You can beat all 3 acts without ever touching the breeding.
getting high appeal is infinitely more worth it than breeding
>>733345103that's how I got my lineage of mage catsbut if you want a better way you can go to the crater and choose the weather that mutates you
>>733345103nobody told me to focus on mutations :( need hand held plz
If I have a kitten inherit really strong healing spells, should I make it a mage so it has more MP to use the spells more often?
>>733345018Retarded vocal minority unfortunately. It's what we get for letting low IQs breed
I gave Mistglow the Cancer trinket too. This girl has so many mutations and 6 7s. Time to make some kittens.
>>733345175The problem with core is it has the same weakness that you bring into the desert, water.I do wonder if something unique happens if you just let tormentor get all runes then win anyway.
Damn Napoleon is a fucking tank.
>>733345176Prove it
>>7333444320.6% of players have made it to the ice age, meanwhile these guys are talking about perfect breeds
>>733345209Get furniture with mutationwith base stat you can only get to 7 at maxalternatively if you want faster mutation go to the crater and try to get shimmer or get cancer
>>733345048The bunker lets me autopilot if you do enough damage. the fuckign CRATER is the one that requires foresight. Starting with a fucking miniboss and having way too many enemies that hurt you if you hit them.
>>733343949>The worst one is when the game hands you the shitty teleport back to your last position at the end of turn skill, does ten damage but will always result in your squishy psychic right in front of the enemy.That's a combo piecce. You're supposed to use it to get right up in the middle of the enemy team, then use one of the big expensive skills that affect all units in your line of sight or within X amount of times from you, then warp back to safety at the end of your turn.
>>733345158k let me know when you collarless clear everything
>>733342114Do side quests, hard mode also lets you get moneybags and two pieces of furniture if you go for the cardboard box tiles
Mobility > Intelligence > Charisma > Constitution >>> the rest
>>733345668this, fights become way easier if you start picking mobility skills, even if they sound shittyJust walk in, blow enemies up and walk out
Am I the only one getting 100% gpu usage in this game?
>>733343036he'd make him a tinkerer and have him spamming rocket launchers/.22 rifles/submachine guns
So is Druid meant to be crap. He seems worse than Archer and Necro for spawn ins.
>>733345327>cancer trinketuranium rod?>>733345814i havent earned him yet but i have seen anons here post pics of him overrunning the map with suicide bomber birds and killer squirrels
Did you know Skill Share+ guarantees any offspring will inherit your other passive? Choose a build enabling passive that works on all 4 cats and you win the game with no more RNG. Everyone with Thou Shalt Not Kill means enemies take 40 damage from ANY unit they they kill. Most bosses will kill themselves instantly if they belly flop on a pack of 1 hp familiars. If anyone else rolls Skill Share during an adventure, then its 70 damage as the passive is duplicated to the other three cats again.
>>733343592I like how in Act 2 it's either an area with energetic music then something chill, or the other way around depending on what path you take
>>733345884Cancer
>>733341359At least he isn't malding over unpaid meows, for what that's worth
>>733342906gee thanks doc
Me being a stinky fat fucking chud in the bunker like god intended.
how do you unlock songs exactly?
Why are some cat names black and some white?
fuck you edmund I'm savescumming this shit
>>733346382Madness would be fine except I cannot for the life of me figure out how the AI works. It seems to prioritize attacking your own units, and will go for attacking one of your units 5 times over attacking an enemy that can't fight back and will instantly die.
>>733346336Anon could you think for 2 minutes before asking a question? We need to raise the general board iq
That enemy that gives you confusion when you attack it is fucking PURE HORSESHIT
>>733341073So pyrophina is just a dps check, huh.
>been having a streak of bad runs after getting to desert and fucking up side quests. >I'll try out the necromancer a bit finally and just push some easy runs and farm stats/items>it summons zombies that eat my cats bodies when they get downed EPIC! You got me Edmund! You got me!
>>733346515I had an incontinent cat lmao.I also had a hosepipe.Easiest win of my life.In other news, Holy crap Lois!
>>733341784
>>733346523I had this happen, it killed my fighter and I had to stop at Johnny and couldnt risk going to Hell. Like fucking thanks Edmund, they are allies, how the fuck was I supposed to know.
When does appealmaxxing pay off? I’m at 14 appeal and the strays that show up are still in the 5-6 range for stats, with an occasional 7 or 4
>>733346575>how the fuck was I supposed to know.You aren't, you're supposed to get fucked and have to start a new run.There's so, so many gimmicks in this game that are bait so you fuck it up and wipe and have to restart and not do it next time.
does anyone else think the sprite where she has a cat in her belly is cute haha
What was meant by Steven when saying this?
>>733346604i have 22 and i get some pretty beast mode strays occasionally
>>733346291seems like.. a third playthrough of a zone>>733346523the zombie kitten mechanic is absolutely stupid
>>733346575>>733346523You already learned how zombies work in the Boneyard. You should've remembered.
>>733342045There's way too much Botanics-posting in these threads.
>>733346631Alright I’m getting closer. Do they have stats in the 8’s ans 9’s?
>>733346661Will eat enemy corpses for health, not my poor downed fighter.
This absolute BEAST just went one on one with the throbbing king for 12 rounds thanks to butcher's soul, shit I bet she can solo the double kaiju fight by herself with proper items
What the fuck Down's Syndrome isn't even very bad. A Downie fighter could be an absolute beast.
why am I playing better while tipsy? I thought this is meant to be a tactical game
>>73334645746 FUCKING HEALTH KILL YOURSELF EDMUND
>>733346703Vanilla caps out at 7, to go beyond that you need mutations and syndromes.
>>733346738It's great, I just finished a run with one. Didn't luck into any negative-int synergies, but the high charisma helped spam Cleanse (inherited from a parent) to get more uses of the Spear of Destiny.
>>733346626Edmund already said there will be at least 2 dlcs, one will be smaller in scope and free and the other will be more substantial and paid
>>733345048Wanting crowd control in general is a big theme after act 1. No need for a healer when you can stunlock every enemy at once.
>>733346626DLC was confirmed by Edmund. He will put a bunch of stuff that didn't make it into base game like the Cat laboratory where you can fuse cats together or mutate them even more and a bunch of new items, classes and bosses for new routes.
I actually got the synergy they show in the tutorial (the burn one) and it’s so insanely OP with a high int and high personality cat. With 30 MP that I get every round with some other skills I can stack 20 burns per turn. On bosses that’s insane because they take turns so often
his walking sound is funny
>>733346779Wowwwww I thought this entire time i had shitty base stat cats but they’re actually normal. I really need to invest in mutation furniture
>>733346804>I actually got the synergy they show in the tutorialI don't even remember it
>>733346745Because the game is a heavily RNG dependent spreadsheet simulator and you just happen to be rolling good.
>>733346738Lmao down syndrome gives you max charisma
>>733346796>like the Cat laboratory where you can fuse cats togetherholy shit it's the CAThedral of Shadows
So whats the fucking point of the option to abandon an adventure?How is it any different that just dying in a battle?
didn't know amoebas could do that to the boss
>>733346834I think he's sexy
>>733346782Yeah I've had a Williams Syndrome cat before and it was great.I wonder if we could breed them together? With 23 Cha who even needs Int, that's 3 turns of mana off the bat. I wonder if forbidden spells can wipe syndromes or if they'd be freecasts in such a cat?>>733346848The second statue reward in the shop is an idol with +5 mutation. Just hoard strays/cats till age 5.
>Grindslop
>Major boss>No description for its mechanicEDMUNDDDDDDDDDD
>>733346796Edmund is moving fast. Three days ago he said there would be free DLC to celebrate and the next day he did a complete 180 and said it would be paid because it would involve a lot of people and time. Meaning he has some preliminary understanding of the scope for the DLC and it will probably be very large
>>733346745when you're sober you overthink everything and don't take enough risks
>stopwatch quest>nuclear knife quest>the loner quest>ultra vision quest>fart face questany anons find cool synergies or clever ways of doing these? just curious
>>733346854true, but I'm also not hesitating, which is helping somehow
>thief walks in with their absurd movement range>teleports behind priority enemy>oneshots it with a crit>teleports behind second priority enemy>gets another turn from his start of fight extra turn passive>oneshots enemy with another crit>walks in front of another enemy>uses rebound and bounces 10 spaces back to safety(and also kills the enemy with a crit)Fighters could never
>>733343464more supportive version of fighterthey do almost as much damage but also have more health and a bunch of utility
>>733346738Its nice how every disorder has a positive if you're willing to adapt to it, Edmund is a good man
>>733346971thief CHADS cant stop winningi pity the shitters who underestimate its greatness
>>733346834He is easier than the fucking world he's in. Desert is such bullshit.
>>733346951>>733346957
>have like 5 beaniequest items going to the same place>load up all 4 cats for efficiency>lock in>have no idea whats going on>die
>>733345814He needs to roll good abilities. When you get squirrel spam, he can solo. But lot of runs I've just gotten mystery egg or turtle. His default bird familiar has good range and can push and attack far away enemies
>>733346895For when you get forced cat aids from the random event and don't want to waste anymore time on the failed run.
>>733346941That's most major bosses, really.
>>733346950I don't care if it's a paid expansion as long as it's not afterbirth+ 2: electric boogaloo
>>733346834https://vocaroo.com/1dvLCCk6T49j
>>733346971Never seen that extra turn passiveUnfortunately you have to sacrifice some thieves to the ring gods to get a good skill sometimes
Is the side quest order randomized? I’ve done persuasion, glass cannon and mystery dice so far
>>733346795Is it? Ive just been trying to ungabunga everything and largely not succeeding. Where the hell do you get crowd control from? Every class I can think of just has some flavor of delayed or instant damage. Mage with freeze I guess?
>>733346714just uhhhh rez them? spawn the fucking zombies on the opposite side of the map?
>>733343464They are secretly very good and dependable
>>733346971Honestly fighters end up becoming irrelevant after you get monk. They're just fighters but better.
>>733346971rebound is insane if you have 2 enemies to bounce between
>>733341359Was he born yesterday? Has he never heard of Binding of Isaac? You know the shit and dead baby game?
>>733347118Cleric or other classes didn't get any ressurect abilities in their level ups, no smelling salts. Now what?
yet another homestuck name
>>733341761>>733344294Love how people think Tinkerer is either dogshit or the most busted class
>>733347117Mage, psychic, and tank all have great CC. Hunter and druids, while not having anywhere as good CC, can spam summons who can clog up the enemies.
>>733347136yeah, you just have to beat the entire game practically to get it.
I gave this cat a neverstone so my team wouldn't be actually weighed down by the loss when they got to the altar, but she's grown on me and now I feel bad for what's going to happen to her. I didn't have a rebirth bone to try and give her, but would that even have done anything or is the sacrifice a hard cat loss?
>>733347162well dig up has a huge range. dig them away from the party toward the enemy
>Isaac mouth mutationNot TOO fond of the effect because I once had a depressed radioactive cat and he would tank my allies mana pools by brushing against them and lowering their max, but it is really useful for lowering enemy max HP the same way.>>733347084He has both that passive and a spell that costs 10 mana that can give an extra turn (can't be used on an extra turn).It's worth noting that you regenerate mana on extra turns so if you can get this spell on a Tinker or Mage or just any smart cat you can actually profit in Int as well. For this reason it's a near always take spell.
>>733347136Stoopzerk retard fighters getting crits and 3-4 attacks after a round of nipping fucking melts even the toughest bosses, fighters have their place.
>>733347032It's weird that the druid gets minus cons when he has a bird that relies on it and several melee forms. They should have given it -5 luck and range or something less detrimental
mage feels fine when he has an outlet for his massive mana generationand terrible when he doesn'tsometimes your mage just has 4 dogshit utility spells
>>733347173It isTinkerer without it's unlock is mediocre at bestEven that rocket launcher took 6 round to makeAnd it can't hurt robot enemies
act 2 is actually kinda fucking shit huh>lol eveything gets multiple turns>also they stack armor on their turns :)>also there's spawners on every other level>also you cant regen in the first part you have to buy water bottles>also we dont give you enough coins to buy water bottles until the end of the desert if you skip candy :)the more i go through the act 2 routes the more shit i realize it is
>>733347173That's really Tinkerer as a whole. You either get good synergy and it does well or you don't and it feels useless.
Tyler posted an image of the level editor. Crazy how even the dev tools have soul
>>733347224bring water bottles from your last run or thief
This game is stuffed to the brim with ancient, out of date references and memes and I love it. Guess that means I'm reddit.
>>733347106I think so, I didn't get glass cannon but got fart face and some others
>>733347185I dont see how tank has good cc besides "having 1 million health" or "rocks everywhere"
has anyone sacrificed a cat to the devil altar?
WHY THE FUCK AM I GETTING SO MANY GAYSWHICH CAT IS GROOMING THE CHILDRENWHERE
>>733347212Low int fighter's probably the only build that holds up after act 1 really.
>>733347290Tanks get a bunch of aoe abilities and a bunch of enemy/ally movement manipulation abilities.
>>733347306its you
>>733347290you use them to fuck with enemy positioning . toss, knockback etc.
>>733347224AnonYou know you can wait until it rains right?
>>733343464>passive that makes enemies prioritize you (+thorns and regen upgraded)>trashcan for head slot (shitload of armor and chance to petrify when you get hit) + some way to cleanse to remove the blind>eyes item that makes cat counterattack when he gets hit in melee>necklace that adds knockback damage or poison or thorns>ability to swap with an ally and/or teleport to crushed rocks (latter has a bonus with petrify, since petrified enemies are considered rocks)>trashcan lid for weapon for more armor and knockbackThis was my last tank. He had 35 starting armor, 5 thorns, and hit for 10 damage. I would park him in the middle of a swarm of enemies, they would attack him, and they would die. Shit was cracked.
FUCKIN EDMUND I DIDN'T ORDER AN RTS
>>733347290>>733347324Also even their basic attack has knockback. Compared to the other two options yeah Tank has the worst CC of the three, but they make up for it with their chonkiness.
>>733347268Hope you never get glass cannon lol, it covers every tile except for water tiles with glass. It makes the earlier fights easy because the enemies just kill themselves but later fights with higher hp enemies suck
>>733347306well...
>>733347346I have literally never seen rain beyond the scripted one at the beginning>just wait for rain!goes to show its just a shit decision
>>733347378Would the solution to that be do a solo run with a teleporting unit and let everything kill itself trying to catch you?
>>733347265Context matters. Ed's style makes it fun.
>>733341073Any tips for moon? People were saying its easier than desert but i got ass fucked by the big ufo summoning a charming alien and i legitimately dont understand what im suppsoed to do about the moon men. Maybe i should just not bring a fighter tank core and try a theif ranger core instead?
what's a good stimulation score?
>>733347306they are just taking after their dad bro (YOU)
>>733347421Teleporting units are OP yeah that’s what I did. I didnt think to play keep away with the enemies though, that’s smart
>>733347224Bring food or a cleric or just don't take many hits.>>733347445Thief has a lot of armor piercing skills which might help against moon men if they're the enemy I think they are.
>first time to desertholy. not having water is actually crazyill see how far I can get but next time I'm going to need to farm that water hose weapon
>>733347153rebound is insane in general, the amount of shit you can pull off with it is crazySuper flexible spell, might be my favorite
>>733347537Just bring a cleric. It helps that the boss is radical rat tier easy
>>733347297Yeah I seem have just lost the cat and all the other cats got some random negative passive
>>733347173Honestly tinkerer really benefits from you having a good stockpile of items in your storage. I always try to have stuff like onions milk just in case my cat rolls the hone passive
>>733346971>get a cat with shadow step passive>he also gets the ability to spawn a shadow clone>stack basic attacks on himLittle fucker is literally Naruto. What a beast.
someone post it
>>733347583I was hoping for some sweet devil deals, but that sucks.
>>733347586I've just started breeding v.2.0 cats. Upgrades his basic attack, upgrades nearly all his abilities, the +version is broken. You can't have a bad v2.0 Tinker.>>733347641Is there a way to make shadow clone not suck?
>>733347563Gambit is easy. Zodiac is annoyingly slow if you dont want to tank damage.
>you wont damage allies!>drop some mini-nukes around the enemy that's encircling us>kill my entire team from the chain knockback damage
>>733341761I had possible the worst tinker imagine able. It was born with a perk that made it zap whatever it ends its movement next too based on how far it moved, this includes getting knocked around. Then i gave it tesla coils becuae i naively assumed they woukd prioritize other units but instead the just kept stunning my tinkerer immediately, then i got the perk to make it lightning immune but now the tesla coils were just killing my team. It was an actively harmful tinkerer. Seriously how are tesla coils that bad jesus christ, you can only build them next to you, they die if the enemy so much as sneezes on them, and you cant even see their fucking range.
>Act 3>Psychic casts madness on the boss' minions and boxes him in>Can just keep casting madness and confusion over and over again.Psychic haters, your response?
>>733347763I dont what kind of tesla coil you built but i remember them having a pretty good range if not the whole map. Completely ruined dybbuks life with them
>>733341761tinkerer basically REQUIRES tech or its uselessif you dont get any tech skills by the time you finish the first area just go home lmao
>>733347771I had a good Psychic cat where I had Ping (1 magic damage spell when spending mana) and Do Nothing (1 mana spell where nothing happens), plus the Six passive (every six spell casts, get all stat ups and more magic damage). I tickled Pyrophina in the kaiju fight to death. Feels like the average Psychic cat is just that, tickling things to death.
waow
This has to be the most soulful game I’ve played in many years. Like what the fuck. The soul just oozes out of EVERYTHING from the music, to the visuals, to the interface… my fucking God. They even have hundreds of randomized intro cutscenes and title screens. Who does that? When was the last time any of you saw truSoul this glisteningly pure this decade?
>>733347716>Is there a way to make shadow clone not suckGuaranteed crit passive and the ability that lets you gain an extra move. You automatically double your damage output against anything that's 2+ tiles wide, and can also finangle backstabs on more than one enemy at once with a little luck. Gets crazy if you have a way to stack multiple basic attacks, since you're basically doing 4x damage every single time.
>>733346971>roll sweetspot plus the skill that increases his range>oh hell time to make my thief a sniper>no map was big enough for the range to matterI feel blueballed
>>733347878The last time I saw trusoul was in 2011 with The Binding of Isaac.Wait a minute...
is there anything we can learn from real life animal breeding programs
>>733347921Imagine if you got that with the hunter passive that adds extra damage on shots more than 3 tiles away
>>733347958there's a lot we can learn from society as a whole. consider who is breeding in luxury while we fight amongst ourselves
>>733347878Last game that rivaled this in terms of truSoul for me was DQ11
I love when the cats sing along to the music
>>733341645seriously? I find the cats in this game to be cute and even charming when they come out fugly.
>>733347197>the cutsceneAnd now it's fucking personal. That dickhead's dying!
>>733348057I really wish they would shut up while I'm trying to think
>>733348062You can definitely get some extremely scuffed cats if you inbreed and/or mutate them, but you're still rightPhysical traits are also passed down, so whiners could easily just breed their cats to be pretty
Any recs for music like this games ost?
>>733348130Ween's discography
>>733347921That skill is made for Hunter.It's just so much better on Hunter it's not even funny.
>>733348130There’s a lot of different musical styles in the game
>>733347528Im talking about the mini boss. I legitimately dont get what im supposed to do against them beyond "lmao just dont get hit lmao"
>>733348130Lemon Demon, Ween, and Will Wood.
>"Only one cat can level up" sidequest, need to go to the caves>Fighter gets afflicted with Blood Frenzy in the middle of the Junkyard>>>He fucking carries the entire thing on his gigantic musclesI think I'm gonna make it if he can cheese enough extra turns on the bossSomehow someone other than the Necro has survived so far too. Levels don't factor into cat breeding right?
>>733347842I got the ones that target random units and not the enemies and the always targeted my team. Where are the cool ones you got that actually hit the enemy i want those ones
I thought was getting squirrel nut zippers or voodoo daddy vibe from some of the songs.
>>733348130>>733348286Oh, and Caro Emerald.
>>733348294he's batman
>>733348351I guess the synergy is that electric damage amps robots with a bonus turn so if you're spamming an army of robots you have the odds stacked that it will either hit an enemy or a friendly (good).
>>733348086Realistic cat simulation
>>733348294>Levels don't factor into cat breeding right?only so far as they can pass down more levels and passives since they learned more
>>733348130Mr. Bungle, Tom Waits
>>733348473Yeah the game stopped offering me new passive choices past like lv10, just been stats since then. Ended up lucking into Shoulder Check, the counterattack passive, and the black belt is a chance for a second counter which is mostly what made the caves possible.
according to RYM it's a jazz rock album with influences of blues rock, rockabilly, surf rock, comedy rock, dark cabaret, vocal jazz, zolo and art punk.
FunfactCat age scale with medical
What's a good act 2 composition? I've been running tank, cleric, hunter and necromancer but necro seems really good or mediocre depending on RNG.
Fuck me the soundtrack is good. I caught myself humming tracks all the time.
>>733348782I’ve been rocking fighter medic hunter cleric and haven’t bothered with the others
Had a cat with a voice of bored woman going "Oh hi, hahaha" and "Tha's life as they say". Was grating to keep hearing her
>>733348782Leeches get cucked by the heatwave unless you have plenty of water
Your brother is doomed, Your mother is doomed, Your preacher is doomed, Your milkman is doomed, The midwife is doomed, The mailman is so very doomed
>>733348863>get to home>"little bow on top, little bow on top, little bow on top"
60 hours in and I'd never actually seen what negative int text looked like, seeing the little cat dance with this indecipherable text made me laugh out loud.
>>733348863Would be great if there was an option to mute voice lines outside of meows.
>>733348782I advice bringing armor, constitute and moving range and possibly healing consumables for the desert. Even one use items or otherwise expandable shit just to guarantee you clear the desert. Once you clear desert, you can easily roll the following paths with any comp
>>733348918Kek
>>733348863must have been Ian Jomha wife.
CATFIGHTCATFIGHT
Only 87 percent of players have cleared alley
Reddgenics
>>733349159GOT KAT?LETS FIGHT
>>733348895RIGHT ON YOUR NUTS AND ON YOUR NIPPLES
the litterbox of broken dreams
Reminder to bring a 0 int cat to the cavemen fight or the lyrics will be unintelligble
>monk with wolf form and the passive that lets him move twicethis is cracked
Reminder to not bring the mammoth kitten to the caveman fight, you can't bring him home with you :(
We got robbed bros........
>>733349472this shit looks beyond ass im glad it was scrapped
I brought Guillotina's head to the Throbbing Domain and my cat still fucking died, I thought the head was going to prevent that?
>>733349592lol
Last run I had a mage with Cleanse he got from breeding, so I put Divide on him and just cleansed my damage downs.It was strong, but mage's basic attack range/line of sight restrictions didn't let me take full advantage of that for the majority of the run except for Spinnerette.It sucks when an op build idea doesn't have the time to blossom.
>>733345668Constitution is so important early game. I can forgive less mobility especially if I plan for them to be ranged anyway
>>733349696>Divide gives damage downs instead of modifying the attack directlythat's way better than I thought it was
>>733341073How much stimulation have you managed to cramp into the attic? I'm up to 37 and I'm still not quite happy with the stat transferring.Still in Act 2.
>>733347019Lmao you'll be infinitely bouncing around until everyone dies and explodes into meat
>>733349862How do you have so much shit in act 2? I'm nearly finished with the game and I have less furniture than you and just now got my third extra room
>>733349862>che guevara but he's a cat>the creation of adam but he's a cat>a clockwork orange but alex is a cati want all of these
>>733349914chew your steak faggot
what class would your cat irl be?
>>733349972my cat would definitely floss if she was physically capable of moving her limbs in that way so jester
>>733349914I'm not good with modern roguelites and spend too much time overpreparing given the option. After beating Cube quest, Crater, and Bunker first try I realise that I can get away even with the shittiest of abilities/passives.
is this a game where you HAVE to chew it slowly?
I FUCKING AHTE THIS FUCKING NIGGER HE KILLEDMY TINKERER WITH HIS RETARED PHASE CHANGE EXPLOSION
>>733349972my cat would be a hunter because she's really good at long range attacks (spraying my couch)
>throw jetpack into burning enemy>it explodesfucking hell, how many hidden interactions are there?
>>733350078i've never wiped to himone time i didn't think my party was strong enough to beat him so i just went home after chapter 3
>>733349972She was a lazy bones but i loved her and miss her so much, but she would sneak into rooms and liked to hide her colored mice everywhere so Thief probably.
cute.....
>keep rolling this absolute garbage on my rangersIf i alt f4 from the game before starting the run can i reroll the beginning skills this shit is so fucking bad.
>>733350303always keep a "physical attacks can't miss" item in your box
game reminds me of that one primus song tommy the cathttps://youtu.be/r4OhIU-PmB8?list=RDr4OhIU-PmB8
>>733350303Just don't miss.>being a lucklet
>>733350341Ok? That doesnt answer my qeustion. can i opt out of edmunds bullshit rng garbage?
>>733349972I don't have a cat, but my dogs a little retard so he'd be a 0 int fighter
>>733350373Nope you cannot but at least steven doesnt get mad i guess. Fuck it i guess ill try the tina mask quest a different run
>>733350303This is the best one though
great, this is gonna be a nightmare
>>733350373Yes by stocking up on items to level it out?I just had a run with the ranger carried it. I used the horse binders too to stack on more damage
>>733350303Just get the other passive that guarantees 100% accuracy :)
>>733350303bruh that's literally the best hunter passive if you have a never miss item. this+scatter shot will just melt bosses
>>733349972I've got a primordial dwarf with Autism, so I guess she has to be a Hunter
why is this game so addictive?
>pyrophina vs zaratanaWhat the fuck is this horseshit.
>>733350287Gentle reminder that this little nigger tortures the cats you send him
>>733350551So do you.
>>733350534I am finishing this game out of hate and frustration.
>>733350494hold up, scatter shot actually works with those items?I thought it only worked on the "50% chance to miss" ones
>>733350551Yeah but it makes them stronger
>>733350589i dont know about making the entire area always hit, but it definitely negates the 50% miss chance. but with scatter shot vs a 4/9 tile boss, odds are multiple tiles will get hit, so it can hit 2-9 times and then double that damage from the crit for basically 4-18x more damage.this is why magnify is also extremely powerful against multi tile units, because every tile gets hit separately
>>733350683my magnify mage nearly one-shot the tormentor because of his 4x4 hitboxcrescendo works this way as well, but you have to be careful not to nuke your own cats with it
>>733350572Not true. I send my cats on FUN adventures where they get mad dosh and become godlike entities. They like it.
>>733350683>>733350743Thanks for the info, I'll have to experiment with mage more
>>733350160Pretty sure jetpacks just always explode. A real crazy interaction is when you use your tinkers electrocuted shard of glass into a pool of water on its last durability and it breaking turns the water into glass.
No one told me you could do dysgenics in this game
>>733349972>gets inbetween the walls of the house and eats the baby squirrels there>deliberately bothers the dog and then gets out of reachMaybe thief?>>733347445One easy way of dealing with the miniboss is using summons to tank hits. My last moon run they were stuck just murdering squirrels.
Guillotina phase 2 kicked my ass, I don't think I should even be fighting this I'm scared.
>>733351027Phase 3 is infinitely worse, but still manageable as long as you bring strong cats.
>catbot on butcher frees up the weapon slotlol I suppose
>Fail the hole in the wall event for the first time in 70 hours>straight up eats one of your catsI don't know what I expected but I sure as shit don't like that.
>>733351027i solo'd phase 2 with some shitty necromancer which was my only eligible cat after donating old cats and accidentally skipping an additional day
Do you ever unlock a bigger pool of skills for the classes? After 50 hours, it feels like I’ve already seen all the archetypes for the different classes.
>>733351401Every class has abilities you can unlock by beating runs with them in different areas.
I finally snapped and got rid of all my nice little bow on top cats despite most of them having really good traits/mutationsvoices should not have been inherited so often it fucking sucks
>unlock aggression indicator>house is full of hateful catsis aggression an inheritable trait?
>>733351594purely socioeconomic factors
Wow the crater boss is a fucking joke
>>733346898I bloodletted him with my necro in one of the runs
>>733351439I know that, it just feels like all the classes develop in ways I’ve already seen before.I was hoping to see some crazier synergies at some point, similar to tboi.Maybe i just have bad rng idk
>>733351128I lost to phase 3 because I had a bunch of single target cats, then the bitch throws out Mama Maggot Faggot who spawns a million maggots including the lickers who do fucking 9 damage each.
Druid's transformation move is still kept when transforming into something elseInteresting
>>733351602kek
What's easier, Core or Moon? I've got my revolver and tinker tools with me, both worn. Not likely to get this sick combo anytime soon.
>inbred cats have the best stats for meDo I try to cull them or just keep going along with it?
>>733351729crater is harder than bunkercore is harder than moonmoon boss is more gimmicky than core bossoverall id say moon route is slightly easier
This nignog doesn't even know how many times I've actually savescummed.
>>733351776I will follow this advice, thank you!
Which skills are worth breeding for? And how do you go about it? Wasn't too difficult to get all 7s and mutations, but I haven't been able to tell if there's any way of boosting the chances of inheriting skills.Should you just keep heading home after the first boss so there are less skills for it to choose between?
>>733349972mine's tankfucker has a open wound in the neck from like 3 years ago and is still fighting in the roofsi didnt take him to the vet cause i 100% believed that he would day anyday i have had like 30 cats in my life and have never seen a mf with so many scars still kicking
Man i suck at this gameGetting filtered by caves, the spiders heal more than i can damage. Tried a junkyard run instead and half my team was melee and getting chunked up by thorns on rusty catsI think my best option right now is several alley only runs to try and get some hardcounter items and hopefully some halfway decent cats
Alright, Anonymous from the *chan of Four. (You) get the chance to call the shots, be a big shot yourself even!Based on Edmund McMillen's past games and how he likes his steak done, what class would you like to see in the upcoming DLC, which will feature the big man himself, Steven from Time Fcuk as one of the bosses? In time, you'll be able to beat him up like he owed you money, become back YOUR money!
>>733351627Yeah. Only time I was mildly nervous was when I hit it with the rubber bat meaning to stun it but forgot the bat also rotates it to side and i had lotsa uncontrollable necro-raised enemies. Still pulld throgh thanks to high HP
take a look at this mf
>>733351895If you manage to get Mini Me passive, dedicate it to breeding
>>733342758do you have high comfort in your room? also make sure there's a good mix of male and female
Oof first wipe to guillotina 3. Fucker killed my hunter faster then I expected and then I wasn't much trouble for the maggots. Back to the cat farm.
>>733341241>>733341591you dont need to do all that at all, it really doesnt matter if your cat has +7 str or +8 str, as long as your speed isnt too fucked and you're adaptable you can usually get a good build going. i always pick hard path and the game has only bullshitted me a few times. you're expected to save scum sometimes, its just an rng roguelike experience
so is inbreeding that bad?
>>733352005(Al)chemist pill slinger is the best idea I've seen in these threads, would be fitting for the setting, give a use to these shitty pills you get swarmed with and a dedicated buffer/debuffer class would fit well into the roster
>>733352128>you're expected to save scum sometimes
>>733348062>>733341645they look like shit. the art style is fine but the cats are almost never cute, which is stupid and gay. cats in real life are very cute and lovable, the monsters in this game are kind of gross
>>733352190i mean its LITERALLY baked in as a mechanic, if you quit to menu mid-fight you will get a warning that you can only do it once per run. its like a resource. there's no downside and the game allows for it once
>>733352153mild inbreeding isnt bad, it will get worse and worse, you need to eventually made with a nice stray or some other bloodline or else you'll have full retard mutants.
if you savescummed you didnt beat the game
>>733352106what happens if you lose to guillotina besides your party getting wiped? any downsides?
>>733352216I think the idea is that sometimes you just have to close your game for reasons beyond your control, not that you're expect to use it to your advantage.
>>733352232ah shit80% of my cats come from the same super sage cat
>>733352248The NPCs make fun of you
>>733351776Crater is just fucking mean, like junkyard is a wee bit harder than sewers. Crater is a whole lot more FUCK YOU than Bunker, also the music is worse.I love enemies that hurt whenever I hurt them, exciting gameplay.
>>733341568because of this fucker I'm too afraid to try the boneyard questsmaybe if i have already starting abilities where i know i can hit him easily
>>733352005Biomancer focused on fucking around with diseases, mutations and poison damage. Crippling with farts and shit like Edmund likes so much to put in the games, also passing around his own debuffs from such to others.
>>733352258no lol its because its a game where you can literally get tpk and raped and lose an entire cat and 50 minutes of progress with 1 misclick. if you need to leave soon you can leave between runs on the map menu and you will never be punished, the game specifically has content based around leaving mid fight
if you save scummed you beat the game using tools the game provided to you
>>733352348that anon is right. this is just cope
>>733352348Its likelier that it's there just in the event that you have to close the game for reasons beyond your control in the middle of a battle. Being able to quit safely on the map doesn't change that because battles are not quick at all. Ed knows the rng can fuck you and he doesn't care.
>200 hour campaignwhat do they mean by this? Is it 200 hours of recycled bullshit? because that's a lot of videogame
>>733352448>Ed knows the rng can fuck you and he doesn't care.yes he does, thats LITERALLY why you're allowed to save scum only once per run and not more than that without reprecussions
>>733352460its more like 60-70 hours if you're talking about seeing all the bosses and areas, the rest is completionist shit
>"attacks EVERYTHING around you">actually only attacks 4 tilesShit game.
>>733352005I don’t see them adding more classes, more NPCs, variant stages like in Isaac, and more bosses seem more likely.
https://youtu.be/G0D3uYRqaq8?si=Zf8iszDGvI07cUaAWhy is Jerma so good at being a catSOVL
>>733352505but it attacks everything...... AROUND YOU, not on the whole battlefield
>>733345006>A TBT roguelike game is streamerslop
>>733352581There are 8 tiles around you.
>>733342045Not enough botanics espeon posting here. WHERE ARE THE NEW PICTURES BOTANICS, WHERE ARE THE PYCHIC WHISPERING FELATIO AND COOKIE IMPREGNATION SEQUELS WITH A SIDE OF HOUR LONG PILLOW BITING ANAL. ITS BEEN OVER A YEAR.
>>733352473this guy is drooling and sharting over his keyboard and then making excuses for how savescumming is actually part of the experience. play however you want but don't make shit up
>>733352448>Ed knows the rng can fuck you and he doesn't care.if ed was actually trying to dissuade save scumming, this is a horrible implementation of it. people see the steven cutscene and go WOAH it's steven from BOI and post it online, encouraging more savescumming. and he went out of his way to code an entire system around save scumming without being overly harsh to save scummers
It’s very easy to misclick in this game, to the point that an undo button not being in the game is a strange choice.
>spent 5 hours just getting my house back together with some alright cats and items after severely snowballing downhill to the point where I had nothing leftI feel like an absolute shitter but I don't get what Im actually doing wrong. Im usually pretty alright at these games.
>>733352512They might, for an incentive on completion
>>733352680lol im just telling you the objective fact that there is content based around trying to save scum, so you are missing out if you never do it
>>7333526148 tiles attack are usually called "spin"
>>733352740That doesn't mean you're intended to do it. The game is letting you know you are not playing the way it is intended and are abusing a system that is not intended to be used as a mulligan system.
>>733352814except if that was the case, the game would go "fuck you, die" and kill all your cats
>>733352814except then it literally tells you outright to your face that you are allowed to do it one time per run, and there will be reprecussions if you do it beyond then. so from then, you are equipped with the knowledge that its a resource available to you that you can use whenever you want to
>>733352727At least for movement without doing an attack/ability I really wish this was a thing, way too easy to misclick
>>733352853Yeah, even getting the deja vu passive on one of your cats is better than a TPK or losing a cat
>>733352736There isn’t much more you can do with the existing systems. The other anon’s suggestions are already done by the existing classes. New classes would require new systems.
>>733352848If you quick reset in Isaac too much you unlock a shitty pick up that dilutes the pool. It's "content" but its Ed's way of pissing on you for playing the incorrect way.>>733352853Its likelier that it's allowed once per run in the event that you have to close your game for reasons beyond your control, not that you are intended to use it as a mulligan.
does peace symbol work with damage done to yourself?
>>733352947yea.... or, he realized people save scum these types of games a lot because they dont like their rng outcomes, so he balanced it around the fact that he acknowledges thats a thing while making it so its not abusable. it is likely you are a faggot retard though
>>733352947>Its likelier that it's allowed once per run in the event that you have to close your game for reasons beyond your controlokay, why doesn't it go "fuck you, die" after that then? you can't tell me ed wouldn't get a kick out of that
>>733352005something like cyberdwarf from shut up and jam gaiden that turns the player's turn into a 5-second-long beat 'em up combo
>>733353000Why would you create an rng-heavy game and then cater to people who don't like itare you hearing yourself
>see people complaining about tina for eating their cats>get the "tina is coming!" event>mfw retired cats are all melee>tina fight>she does literally nothing and effortlessly die>worried for nothingUhhh... mewbabs? What the fuck where you bitching about? The fat whore just walks and throws you away.
>>733353051He got soft after Peach was born
>>733349972A dumb stubborn tank with knock build and needing physical contact with team mates
>>733353087because you understand that the rng can be completely unfair so you provide a countermeasure that comes at a price if its abused? its called....... logical game design?
>>733353000>casuals are faggots so I'll throw them a boneI could see it desu
>>733352947Scared hearts are a genuinely good unlock, especially when you’ve unlocked all the other hearts.
>>733352991Yes but not skills that damage you. ie if you have a skill that says you take damage you still take damage.
>>733351776another factor is that crater and moon seem to have much worse loot
>>733353171i mean.. LITERALLY yes
>>733353165The point of rng is that sometimes it is completely unfair. That's the point of an rng-heavy rpg. It's not supposed to be rng but only when it benefits you.
>>733350078Take the squirrelpill
>>733353217Crater has a drop that instantly kills Zaratana in both fights.
>>733353179It used to he half soul hearts which had a chance to replace full ones.
>>733353273yea well i dont save scum and i agree that you should roll with the punches and accept the consequences of what happens, but its also just objectively something that is allowed once if you want. its at least balanced in that way, so nobody is allowed more than 1, and everybody is allowed 1. you can choose to not use it and still succeed
>take cursed quest item to Boneyard>Dybbuk kills the cat holding the quest item then dies on the same turn>game moving too fast before I can register what's happeningI'm never playing on speed 4 again
>>733352334Actually, adding more on it, it would be nice to also play on cats being retards on getting themselves killed on top of the diseases they getI had a cat that would be terrified of his own farts and whenever he had some stomach ache, he'd shit and run everywhere when it turns out he was lactose intolerant.
>>733342045>that assWould. Repeatedly.
I'm doing the quest for the spider injector in caves, do i have to have it equipped or just in backpack fine?
>>733353474Cool but that isn't the argument. You're not intended to use it as a mulligan. The claim was that you're "intended to savescum". It would be completely out of character for Ed to intend for player to savescum and it's likelier that the feature is there in the event that you have to close your game for reasons beyond your control. It's disingenuous to tell people Ed would intend that, especially if you've played his previous games.
>>733353292That's nuts...
>>733353643i would tell ed he's a fat faggot to his face
Cat.
>>733353713There isn't a single person here who would pass up on that opportunity.
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I wish I could swallow an expensive stake whole in front of McMuffin
>>733353490anything beyond 2 just feels dumb
>>733349972A cleric for sureShe heals the wounds on my soul
>>733353853anon eating wood is a bad idea
>supposed to sacrifice the wearer of guillotina's head on the altarohoopsdammit
>>733342113tinkerer has the most synergy with equipmentI will save certain items for him and he will carry a run
>>733353490it's so cancer doubly so with the items that explode corpses when downed. it's like okay great im counting on losing atleast one cat permanently here
