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OP is a faggot.
Is that area even real? I've seen people point that it is fake, but then it begs the question of how or why someone would even design such a clever fake.
>>733612278Then we have something in common.
>>733612278BASED
I don't get why the cats in my breeding room are not breeding. They have tons of comfort/stimulation, one is male the other female, both straight, both average libido, they dont hate each other, yet THEY WONT BREED
>>733612260how do we know this area is real?the image matches the game's art style but that's not exactly impossible to fake
>>>/vg/
>>733612278based to snipe his own thread spam, fuck this wannabe aquajeet nigger and don't acknowledge him, post cats and builds preferably monk i need to see what he does
Previous thread:>>733603484
>>733612625you're not clever faggotpeople always start doing this shit when they want recurring threads to stop
>had nothing to steal this time so niggerjeet just repeated the same posts
I just took two rangers. One was spamming 2mp abilities on the other one, she was catching them and shooting 6-10 attacks a turn. Moon turned out to be a breeze - first time I went there and already a successful run on hard path.Feels good. Also got several cats with good mutations to breed.
>tinker armor up>get armor>its gone after the battlewhat the fuck is the point of this
I gotta stop messing around with quests, trying to do 2 at the same time was a massive mistake>try tina head + explody device>explody device holder suddenly gets focused and dies mid sewers>push through to throbbing domain on 3 cats and one shitter stray>forced to lose a tank, AND can't go home after that>greeted by 5 assholes with 48 hp who attack 15 times in a rowI got fucked so hard, i've lost everything.
from all the guillotina buildup i was expecting she'd have instakills or something
>>733612278
What the fuck is Edmund's problem?
>>733612935He thinks gamers are capable of basic problem solving.
Best class to do loner side quest?
>>733612935What was the point of giving him a zombie pussy thoughbeit
>>733612824The only time I mixed quests was doing the explody one with the Cryogenic Time Chamber quests, since it negated the resurrection mechanic entirely.
>>733612917I assumed she did. Butch said something about her decapitating cats with one swipe so I played keep apart with her to beat her.>>733612935Hardest boss in the first two acts. The dodging is bad enough but a neat gimmick, but the possession is fucking insane.In fact, all the hardest enemies I've faced so far have some charm or possession gimmick. That shit is scarier than insta-kills.
This retarded robot ruins the fight for me. I HATE IT
>>733612935Hey, bro, don't mind this anon: >>733612973It took him 75 hours to get 52% completion in the game and he admitted that he spent a lot of that time going on "furniture runs".
>>733612995that's an autopsy scarwell, technically a necropsy scar
>Ruins your life
>>733612935>"I want players to complete their caves quests first"
What am I doing wrong with breeding? From the guides I saw you need to have two cats in a high stimulation room with distinct 7 stats and wait until they produce a kitten that has all 7s from parents. I'm doing this but the problem is that this kitten never shows up, the parents never have sex even if they are both straight high libido of opposing genders. Eventually they die of old age without ever producing a kitten. What can I do in this situation to avoid this?
>>733613148That's not my mother.
>>733612587Monk has three focuses>style switching>armor stacking>no itemshe relies on bruised do deal his damage, mostly and he comes with a couple of very juicy DBZ and Street Fighter abilities.He synergizes very well with physical damage dealers and classes that can buff himmy favorite build is the unarmored monk because he's consistently strong and independent of items so he's very reliable.there's overall very few bad moves in his movepool. His disadvantages are that he can't use consumables and weapons and that his base speed and mobility is not that great.
>>733613027>Charms your murderhobo cat>Lose instantly10/10
>>733613151>>733612935>intend to go to boneyard>grab one ability capable of immobilizing an enemy, or surrounding them with rocks/objects, or marking...>winit's that easy, if you know you're going to fight him you just need ONE (1) ability
>>733613167>the parents never have sex even if they are both straight high libido of opposing genders.then comfort is too low
>>733612278FIPPY BIPPY>733612282second post worst post
>>733613027>all the hardest enemies I've faced so far have some charm or possession gimmick. That shit is scarier than insta-kills*Has both and gets two turns a round in you're path*You guys are alright, don't go to moon hard mode tomorrow.
>>733613307Comfort is as high as I can get it (23)
>>733613105Nah, you are thinking of the other guy. I just happen to think that this boss isn't that bad, except maybe the first time when you go into him blind and don't know what to expect.
>>733613251Marking is iffy, I thought vengeful+ would work on him since it's supposed to auto-mark him if he attacks, but it didn't. I wasn't paying too much attention IIRC but he simply refused to be marked, which was the only reason I grabbed vengeful+ in that run. NTA either, I've only fought Dybukk the one time
WHY OH WHY DOES HE BLEED US DRY
>>733612823no fuckin clue. i tried tinker once and its a joke. good at tanking I guess but wheres the consistency and damage
>Go to hell>Big bad boss is being summoned>I can both douse the candles and just use the wind to remove themWell that was fucking easy.
>>733613375The damage is when you get tech up, tech 2/3 weapons are insane
>>733613167how high is the comfort level in this breeding room?that's the only thing I can think of>>733613105>he now thinks every post is memindbroken, kek
I made it to the chaos zone today for the first time and I love the boss music.
>>733613416
>>733612935Do you think they're related?
>>733612696He doesn't play the game so he doesn't have much to talk about. His conversations are limited to what he sees on social media, what he sees his favorite vtubetranny playing, and the most superficial topics of what things look like and what things sound like. >ermm guys will this win an award?>ermm what is the best song on the OST?? You could say these things about any game without ever touching them.
>>733613251>cleric gets aoe heal and heals burn and damage enemies>kill him on turn 2so much shit counters him it's insane
>>733613350counter and AoE attacks work.Even the thief with his three-tile attack can work if you can trap himAlso don't try and tick him down with DOT because he will choose a random target.and don't rely on DOT in the first place
about to do desert after my first attempt yesterday failed miserably. Any tips?
>>733613105>guy who admitted to getting wiped 10 times in act 1 is still seething this hard
it seems the schizos have begun infesting these threadswell lads, it was fun while it lasted
>>733613574any water items or just bring a cleric
>>733613542Counter working is good advice, thanks
>>733613375He is crazy gear dependent in my experience. I wouldn't ever send him into a run naked. Probably his best passive to start out with is the one that lets you hone your held weapon, and then start him out with something with aoe or multihits and it'll never run out. He can hard carry a run with that (At least to the end of act 2, I haven't played far into act 3 yet). You can also do some stupid shit with the passive that doubles the effect of your armor slots (and weapons when upgraded).
>>733613148>have cat that produces sparkles every time its hit>proceed to get vored over and over until its downedVery cool
>>733613584The game doesn't even have visible stats yet despite Edmund already learning his lesson about this with Isaac so they're just making shit up to argue about. It would be pitiful if it wasn't funny.
>>733613575You always talk about how you're really good at reading tooltips but you can't even properly read posts? Very suspicious. Your LARPing keeps getting more and more transparent. You should try samefagging, and this time, make sure to properly capitalize your post when you're pretending to be someone else.
I fucking loved this lad.>casually explodes the entire screen>takes no damage>can self-buff his explosions with bonus electric damage>takes no damage from that, eitherDon't you ever tell me Tinker is a bad class.
The only truly bad class is collarless
>>733613659i wish jannies would ban people for derailing threadsit is so hard to have a good conversation about a popular game on this board because schizos will show up and ruin the threadat least the shartroons get bored if you ignore them
>>733613669you wiped in act 1you have extremely low iqyou are biologically incapable of listening, reading or understanding anythingif i were you id give up the humiliation fetish that you have that forces you to declare your retardation in every thread
>>733613497bro, this is starting to get psychoticTouch grass for a while, step away from the PCI don't even know why you're so mad
This little fellow has decided to embark on a solo adventure, wish him well /v/
>>733613758TBF the guy telling other people they were baboons for losing to bosses a lot of people died to was obnoxious
>>733612935He's not that bad, his kit is insane but his ai is stupid. Lots of times him spawning wisps just makes it way easier to trap him, he'll also corner himself for no reason as well.
>>733613829I agree
>the better you do the more the game wants to cripple youthank you edmundo
>>733612935I have dunked on this fag every single time. Just be patient.
>>733613824He's gonna do well!
>>733613824Good luck buddy.What happens if a solo cat gets charmed, by the way?
>>733613824that's one juicy stat line holy moly
I wonder, does the in-game world work off of Dark Souls rules where the named cats that you kill come back to life somehow after dying, or is only your first run of each area "canonical"?They cant really play off the deaths of specific cats as "knocking them out" or whatever since you can blow their corpse up lol
>>733613797>you are biologically incapable of listening, reading or understanding anythingThis would hit so much harder if you didn't just prove you're illiterate, as demonstrated in the post you're replying to (And were unable to parse)
>>733613879good, keeps me on my toes
>>733613659I think they just really wanted to release the game in a functional state after a decade of development, and plan to add to it later with those kinds of features.
nobody in her bloodline has these eyes, and it's not a mutation either, spooky
>>733613829He's been doing it for a week now.
>>733613824>5 speedIt's over before it began ..
>>733613879>I'm sooooo good at this game>mild inconvenience>THIS RUN IS BRICKED BEYOND ALL BELIEFI thought you were good at the game. Just overcome the adversity :^)
>>733613375I only did one tinker run and I had some 5 mana tech up skill, so by round 2-3 I was basically spawning shotgun and rocket launcher and jetpack every turn. Idk how bad the other tinker variants are, but that one was goated.
>arrive at mother>have no AOE>obviously loseI hate this fucking retarded game.
>>733613879One anon in a previous thread tried to test this and found it to be bunk and from experience, I would agree.There are runs where you get a bad event after the first fight and other runs where you don't seem to get any or only the mildest no matter how you're doing
>>733613879I figured this was the case. Also explains why Act 1 and 2 get harder when you advance in later acts.
>>733613960Are you sure it's not just a birth defect?
>>733613879Honestly, the zombie guy giving my cat feline aids was the only time it REALLY crippled a run for me. Consequently I walked away from him every time he showed up, I'm sure he has some kind of reward if you guess right, but I don't go risk a good cat for that shit anymore.
>>733614039>There are runs where you get a bad event after the first fight and other runs where you don't seem to get any or only the mildest no matter how you're doingbecause it weights the odds, it doesn't guarantee anything
>>733613879>"weighed by how well you're doing">have 5 runs in a row where my very first event gives me AIDS, deja vu or some other bullshituhhh, yeah.... ruin my whole run because i did well for 1 battle
Apparently you can combine items into sets.Only took me 40 hours to figure that out
Is Throbbing King supposed to drop 7 fucking items at once?
>>733614039You don't seem to know what weighted means in this context. Outliers will always exist.
>>733613375It's one of those classes like mage and druid that can just be dogshit useless if you're a lucklet. Tech up sets are good, otherwise Tinkerer armor for brace + rocket boots or something similar can work alright, heal bots are also always useful
>>733614101It's probably not judged on a run by run basis but overall.It's just yet another form of padding.
>>733614062It's not a matter of guessing, just gambling. One choice always gives a parasite and the other always gives a disorder. If you're lucky you could get a good parasite or disorder
>>733613906i stopped reading after you said you wiped in act 1nothing you say has value, you are a retard
>>7336141401 for each hat unlock and an assortment of loot (could be more if you have items that drop more loot)
>>733614140I heard that the clovers you get for winning battles fast are cumulative over the whole run, so if you are doing every battle in 1-2 turns you can get fat rewards from the last boss.
>>733612935Just got done dragging a collarless car with the leech through Dybbuk. Got a bit unlucky with his movement, but I guess it evens out with the good luck that let my collarless cat avoid tower defense+.
>>733614173Ok, larper. Go do some more "furniture runs" lol
>>733614140If it's your first victory, some of those are just unlocks for beating him with different classes
>>733614113not saying that there even are sets in the game and not showing which items belong to which set is a straight up design flaw.As is the less-than-stellar visibility of enemies and especially small birds.
>>733614037Ya. It's ridiculous how rng it is. I keep terminating runs early because I just know the team I have will ngmi and would rather bring the items back and give them away.
>>733614173What are you doing in this thread if you don't want to read posts by people that aren't lossless in the game like you? It's not like anyone values your posts either, so the feeling is mutual.
>>733614290>not saying that there even are sets in the game and not showing which items belong to which set is a straight up design flaw.it should be an unlocktink is so easy to max he could use some extra unlocks
>>733613896He actually is! Got blacksmith as first passive, darts just became run-carrying material>>733613897Don't wanna find out
>quite literally impossible to win because he gets a holy mantle literally every turngreat design Edmund
>>733614147I don't believe it unless I see the weighting formula
Time to restart it again. Curious will AI beat this dogshit boss?
Act 2 was deliberately made to be unfun garbage
>>733613682>upgraded split the atomIm sorry I ever doubted
>>733614410Why would the developer of the game lie about this highly specific thing that he is likely even aware will be controversial?
>>733614290>As is the less-than-stellar visibility of enemies and especially small birds.Press the Control key, anon.
>>733614291This was the first time I arrived at this boss so there is legit no way to know this is what you'll need. If there's one thing I don't like about this game it's that if you don't spoil yourself and know in advance the shit you have to do, you WILL wipe unless your run just so happens to have that shit dealt with. It doesn't happen often, but when it happens it's just fucking crap.
>>733612260How does a fucking game like this succeed and Highguard Fucking fails!?
>>733614409That's rough, maybe with burning the field but it's snowy too..
>>733614171Crazy, then, that he gave me feline aids the very first time I met his ass in a run.
>>733614409>holy shield prevents 1 instance of damage>I AM LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF HITTING THE BOSS MORE THAN 1 TIME WITH ALL OF MY CATShow the fuck do you get filtered when he doesn't even have tall grass to hide in?
>>733614476Ya probably. I went in blind for all the bosses, but I had some real ass pull luck or pure dream team for all of them, so far.. I almost wiped on the brain boy in bunker, but my team composition was pure shit.
>>733614453Haven't struggled with any but Act 3 is where the game starts to get challenging.Act 1 is a guaranteed free win with any composition, act 2 requires at least some competency to reliably clearJust make sure to spend hours doing furniture runs first, scrub.
how the fuck are all of you so fast. this is a save file with no wipes and like 5 extraneous runs for unlocks/sidequests but i see people here with half my time and more progress
>>733614173>get a grim reaper event early in the save>role a bad run and contract cancer, bird flu, and aids>get a satanic statue or other gotcha event that just takes your cat>get the thorned junkyard cat map on a melee teamSo many things can cause a wipe act 1. No one cares about your need to flex anonymously on the internet when you likely scummed more than a few times.
>>733614348I say just have it be common knowledge because thanks to wikis, it is anywaysthere's no conceivable reason to hide sets, but then again, it is McMilland we're talking about and he just loves to keep things obtuse.That's what made me drop Isaac back then, because of the million hidden synergies and items you just had to know
>>733614410Think of it like the much maligned 95% chance to hit in XCOM. Yes, you can roll a 1 on a d20 for an automatic miss. Same would probably apply to to those weighted results. Your sample size is way too small to determine that it's bullshit, I'm sorry.
Where's the class/team tier list
>>733614653autismos with 10k hours in trpgs
>>733614608Shut up, faggot
>>733614563What does feline AIDS do?I once had a half-rat in the Lab give one of my cats ebola, and another gave a different cat COVID, and then by the time we got to the boss everyone had ebola. Both are contagious, and ebola gives +3 bleed while covid gives +1 poison.Those things giving diseases isn't even in the tooltip. But my Butcher had Schadenfreude so we were able to beat the boss and go home, where I piped all the cats just in case diseases are still contagious at home.
>>733614593>midboss so you dont have full abilities yet and rely on RNG dogshit starting rolls>no cats rolled two damage abilities>gets a turn after literally every cat so he has a holy shield on every cats turn guaranteed
Anyone else inspired by this game to start doing this shit IRL? I have already caught four stray cats and I am keeping them in my garage
>>733614653Go into settings and turn up the combat speed to 2x
>>733614453I think if Act 2 is too much of a struggle, that probably means you were neglecting breeding. Full teams of 6s and 7s do MUCH better.
hilter 2 gotta my least favorite boss so far, way too tanky for no good reason. I thought I was missing a mechanic at first but nah it just takes 20 years to die for no good reason
Breeding is a crutch.
>>733613879>Doing first run through bunker with strays>Everything going great, take hard path>Do an event right after the furniture tile>Either read some paper or ignore it>Read has bright green, click it>LOL NOW UR GETTIN AMBUSHED NEXT FIGHT>Next fight is 1 bishop and 3 cultists >Bishop straight up kills one cat before I even get to move, the rest of the fight is statically impossible to win>Alt F4 that shit just to see if there is any possible way to recover>Steven is all FUCK YOU but okay fine, last chance >Before the fight equip the furniture box on the cat that got nuked>Apparently didn't even matter since that time when the fight began, the cat positions were shuffled and the tank took the nuke>Cleared the fight with no casualties >Proceeded to rape the rubber johnny gimmick fightHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU STEAKMOND, I CHEW AT MY OWN PACE
>>733614653I'm a breeding/fusion autist since monster collecting is in my top 3 and that added dozens of hours with me funiture and cancer running, culling and repopulating, and general organization
>great stat cats selected>first battle takes one round>first event>BLOODFRENZIEDvery fun
>>733614739i have sex with cats now
>>733614446Just out of curiously, have you ever wondered what's inside?
>>733614798It's now a solo cat run, anon.Watch him go.
>>733614739Brother I've been doing this for years git gud. Beat up a moon rock yesterday, shit was so cash.
>>733614798if you get bloodfrenzy early you just murder your other cats and powerlevel that frenzy cat and solo the run
Man I hate corpses being destroyed, I think it unironically ruins the game for me. I don't like permanently losing my cats because of dogshit mechanics happeningLost my Monk fighting the act 2 final boss and it pissed me off so fucking much92 hours in, 10 probably spent doing something else but still eugh.
>>733614653My man anyone who has over 100 hours in this game right now is a certified autistic neet, you would need to clock in at least 8 hours a day every day since release
i wish the FIGHT!! sound effect for house invasions was used more on regular bosses, it's so hype
>>733614653it's not a race, who cares how fast someone else can clear a game?It's a slow-paced tactics game with a semi-grindey meta progression system.
>>733614889Not my fault this game is as addictive as crack.
>>733613328>Tooltip says to attack to break the charm>Attack charmed cat like 5 times after killing the prober didn't work>Still charmed
>>733614653game is intended to take somewhere around 200 hours+/- 10% is probably pretty reasonableso anywhere between 180-220 hours means you chewed your steak the correct number of times
>>733614826Yeah. But hands need to slap his face first. That's a problem.
>>733613743Some of my best cats have a good collarless skill or passive. Likewise my best collarless cats have a good collared skill or passive.
>>733614667ur the only one with that problem its cuz ur too dumb to understand the gameand you DID NOT get team wiped off of a little thorns catnobody is that bad
>>733614929>who cares how fast someone else can clear a game?retards who want to feel superior but got filtered by actual competitive games
>>733614728You start with poison and weakness, you inflict poison and weakness on contact (fine so far), but you permanently lose one con and one speed after each battle permanently. My Butcher went from being the team's carry to having to be carried over the finish line literally.It's funny, though, since it was so debilitating the first time, i just denied his offer every time after. If I'd roll something more forgiving, I probably would still roll the bones on his event.
>>733614985Maybe it meant attacking the alien that is doing the charming? I'll try that next time. Although at this point I just have my units with their backs against the wall so they never get charmed by those faggots.
why does tinker nuke do like 7 damage....
>>733615051That's what I thought too, but I killed the alien and it was still charmed. Apparently anal rape is more convincing than regular charming.
>>733615013Shut up, faggot.
Is Desert (first bit of act 2) intended to feel an order of magnitude harder than Boneyard/Caves?Awful weathers, no regen, I have no money to buy water at the first water shop, these fly swarms that take five hits and there's a bunch of of them
>>733613879mods will fix it
>>733615041>You start with poison and weakness, you inflict poison and weakness on contact (fine so far), but you permanently lose one con and one speed after each battle permanently. My Butcher went from being the team's carry to having to be carried over the finish line literally.That penalty on a Butcher is awful. It'd be funny on a mage or psychic and I'd try to make it work.
>>733614884i think the saving grace is that enemies stop somewhat targeting your cat corpses, the drawback is that shit like knockback damage counts for each death count on the corpse so a few bounces means your cat is GONE in a secondcool summer fanart, don't really care for splatoon but i wish summer had a bit more screentime but i guess her whole apt was rushed for 2.0
>>733615013>bring a melee team>8 cats with 2-4 thorns who can gang up on you and if your ranged attackers are mid, you're fuckedDon't pretend like this game doesn't have rooms that completely fuck over certain classes or strats. Like how if you depend on lifesteal or bleed the game conveniently throws a room full of armored enemies at you or mutiple ability cancels if your spells are carrying you, etc.
>>733614985>>733615051>tfw my autism compels me to go to moon hard mode because I want to see the unique encounters there and also the upgrades for my abilitiesGod, it actually is hard mode, though. Those UFOs are a bitch.
>>733615158wait until you see the elite fly swarms that have ten health and do 2 damage instead of 1
>>733615158It's a deliberate difficulty spike for sure. The first chapter of Act III is another one.
>>733615192No, anon, you don't get it. He never lost ever and he never save scummed either, and he'll bring up his very high IQ next. He's legit.>>733615158It's a pretty big spike, yeah.
>>733614998Ok, I'll spell it out. You let a tanky cat with 10 mana get swallowed by the face, then use the unique skill you get inside there. It slaps the face with both hands, puts them into the perfect position for your other cats to slam them into his face repeatedly.
>>733614990mutations are cool and can be cosmetic, but don't sleep on abilitiesfor example I have these cats who have spirit bomb. spirit bomb is okay on its own, but it will double its mana efficiency for each cat that has it activated. that means I can have four 50 damage 3-range AoE attacks on round 2. this is has consistently won me every Act 3 run.
>>733612260Is it just random chance that Bunga instant kills yours cats because he never did when I fought him.I was very confused.
>tfw taking forever to make any progress>because I will return to the house and just spend ages messing around with the catsI may not exactly be the target audience for this game but I'm having a good time.
>>733615330He does it if they're adjacent to him at the start of his turn.He takes no turns until he gets off the chair.
>>733615158It's a big spike, you are supposed to get more serious about breeding and bring starters with better stats and some equipment.
>>733615158Water bottles are kind of a meme. They can be good, especially if you find tricks to replenish them, but I feel like the amount of focus the game puts on them leads people to think that they are way more important than they are.Ultimately, the trick is just to figure out the enemies and try to lose the least amount of health possible. Also, healing is still great in the desert as long as it's not small health regeneration or AoE type stuff.
>>733615119Alien charm is undone by dealing any damage to the charmed cat, it says so in the tooltip, too.
Can you do alley hard with just the strays or am I fucking dogshit at this game
>>733615285exactly this.good traits trump good statsSpirit bomb and Hadoken on another class go hard, or Cleanse on another class means you can pick another DPS.Thief abilities and passives are very handy to have as well.
>>733615381They're way too much of a hassle. I'd bother with them if they let me use them to adjacent units, but I can't be arsed with how they work now.
the labsong is so ass
>>733615330He will kill all cats in direct contact that are not behind him. I can confirm that.
>>733615280WutI brute forced the battle by using my push/crowd control to make the hands be adjacent to him and spamming them with low cost damage abilitiesYou're telling me all I had to do was let a cat get eaten and I could've just gotten free damage the whole timeFuck me
>>733615419Read: >>733614985
I lost every single run today along with the will to continue playingim sick of taking thief or ranger with me everytime if i dont want to lose
>>733615473Agreed. Even if the lyrics are awesome.
>22nd February is CAT DAYoh shit oh fuck
>>733615483You should have wondered what's inside?
this is the best item in the game
>>733615192if i brought 4 melees into a thorns room id still win wtf are you doing dying to 2 thorns>>733615268it's extremely not-hard to not-die on act 1 and act 2
>>733615520What area you losing on? A few days ago I was having a rough time with crater + moon.
>>733615438Yeah but low-stat cats can be really shit. Above all else I would avoid taking low constitution cats unless you have a plan in mind
>>733615518Worked for me every time, so I'm guessing that's some kind of bug. You should report it.
>>733615345did you know you can pet the cats in the inventory screen by holding down M1?
>>733615381>have to spend hp or multiple turns to break the cacti>can't actually move directly onto a resulting water tile until you also destroy cacti corpse (?)>breakable cacti stop spawning in the back half of the actThe intended gameplay simply does not work out, unless you have water generating items/abilities
>>733615473That's how I feel about Caves song, Kitty bones doesn't do anything for me either
>>733615546This game LITERALLY punishes you for curiosity like that, though, and I was already limping to the finish because the UFOs absolutely raped me to start the area
What the FUCK did Uncle Marty do to make being dead the better alternative to taking his calls?
>>733615609I mean, even more importantly than all of that, are you supposed to like, get a water bottle on every single unit? It's just such an hassle.
>Cat born with the Thief ability to throw daggers at everything in sight >Make him a Psychic>Get the passive that ignores line of sight>Kill everything that isn't a boss in one turn
>>733615354>>733615481>He does it if they're adjacent to him at the start of his turn.That sounds hard to do considering he's wacking you with that big hard bone of his. The run I was doing was a shit show anyway so I gave no shits throwing my cats at him and giving them a million and one concussions.
>>733615546I mean in most other instances that's an instakill or fuck-you-up at the very least.I don't really blame people for avoiding it.
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Well Steven doesn't do boss mechanics so now it's over. retardbross...2 hours wasted. >>733615280Yes. But I thought you need to slap his face first and only then you can be swallowed . I didn't notice you can just walk into face without all this hand backstab positioning. This is so ass. My Tinker managed to cast slap spell 5 times in one turn once.
>>733615567desert and bunkerMaybe my team comp is aids (necro, druid, butcher, monk) but i just want fucking completion marks im sick of bringing the same 4 classes
>>733615551people seem to be sleeping on birds.Their extra items and all stats up on turn 1 are really strong.Even the cursed bird poop item is worth it on classes like Druid just for the increased chance of getting that big bird payday
>>733615628I’m just telling you that was the hint. If it makes you feel better I brute forced his ass three times before I wonder what’s inside (by accident, by moving a cat in front of him).
>>733615609I did a run without any water bottles or water abilities and did it just fine. In fairness, I also had a tank, cleric and hunter who all seem overtuned to an extreme to the point where bad rolls on one are made up by the other.
>>733615601Excellent news
>>733615552Ok
finna have a mage moment
>>733613824>>733614373Update: This motherfucker is absolutely out of control and is beating combats in 1-2 rounds
>>733615186Honestly that bosses whole gimmick being XD RANDOM shit annoyed me and I just wanted to be done with that run. hated that in LO too, glitch characters are stupid and unfunEspecially since I just did another fucking boss before that and I was a bit low on hp since my cleric had no heals but her basic, while my Druid did fucking NOTHING. Probably could've reset, but there was so much stuff on the screen, and I was too tired to parse it.But yeah, thankfully they're not super targeted unless it's a special kind of enemy or aoe but it still makes me reeee.I couldn't even tell what was going on, half the field was on fire and then he did some blast shit and turned my cat into dust. Just fucking healed her corpse too, but nooo.same for both lol, I just thought it was cute. I like Summer and the whole idea of her a lot, especially with her becoming more close with Sam after the 15 days and mellowing out slowly.Sadly underutilized but not sure how'd you fix that. Music is great
Cat voices are hereditary right?
>>733615809but tinkerer is shit according to 4channel
Who needs healing?I only got the basic attack and 3 speed
>>733615758Ultimately, that's the trick, yeah, just learn the enemies and rooms and how to fuck with them. Bring a cleric along and you even get some room to fuck up a bit without being harshly punished for it.The water bottle gimmick almost feels like a noob trap. Not really, but kind of like a useless crutch that the game puts way too much focus on.
>>733615732I made many runs with triple bird seed and they were fun as hell. It’s its own little meta game that rewards you with stats and extra items. Many runs with weak healing were saved by a turkey.
>>733615770Also, if you spam left click on the cats while on the inventory screen they'll hiss at you.
>>733615875HEAL THIS YOU CUNT
>>733615712comp seems fine to me, specially for bunkerare you getting outsped a lot?None of these classes are that fast so maybe bring a psychic or thief with you
>>733615712I’m confident you can make it work with that comp. How’s your cat breeding going? Cats with all 6s and 7s make a huge difference.
TankClericRangerEvery. Single. Run.
>>733615870Tinkerer IS shit, anon just loaded it with very strong stats and starting items.
>monk gets two attacks cool it needs dex and str>class bonus is -1 str dex>the attacks are so little damage with bad scalingcool i thought monk was good
Does the Throbbing domain stay open after you use Guillotina's head or do I have to sacrifice a cat every time? I got obliterated by the king because my sacrificed cat was one of my heavy hitters.
I can heal you! >Pisses a puddle on you for 2HP
>>733615976Tank and cleric feels so redundant later on
>>733615879Ya I didn't understand it myself. My first run I picked mage because I was like, "ho boy all the NPCs are telling me I need water better hope for wa-" (got whirlpool as my starting spell). When I saw the gimmick was just heat wave though I was disappointed. Second one it rained halfway in and I had a cat who could piss himself anyway.
>>733615992>[CLASS] IS shit, anon just loaded it with very strong stats and starting items.ftfy
>>733615976many are saying this
>>733615473Spoken like a true test subject. Back to your cage Stacy #19837.THE POKINGTHE PRODDINGTHE ENDLESS PAIN AND SOBBING
Can "But X wasn't into it" happen even with theoretically compatible cats, aka they just don't like each other?
>>733616020It stays open
Does this game have absolutely impossible seeds? And if so, just how common are they? I feel like 5% of the seeds are impossible.
>>733616018Monk isn’t good. He’s great.
>>733615976I don't know how you guys don't get bored using the same classes for every run
Act 2>Bringing the scalding orb to the moon, also the first time going there.>just assume it works like the act 1 main quest items>beat the boss>nothing happens>realize I was supposed to feed it to him DURING the battleFCUK
>>733616070kys retard
>>733616020>Does the Throbbing domain stay openyes, you have permanent access
>>733616070you're just a shitmonkey that's shit at the game
>>733616047That only ever happened to me when a bi cat tried to mate with a straight one of the same sex.
>733616070Kys
Ngl I don’t think I’m gonna do the other difficulties, seems artificial
>>733615285>perfect 7>not inbred>4 cats have spirit bombhow? my fuck room has like 10 comfort and stimulation and i feel like the kid never gets the good stats or abilities i want to pass onare my house stats too low? does it need to be in the 20s? 30s? etc?
>>733615692HOLD ONThe fight is still going wtf. The necro is immortal.
>>733616040Hunter is good even with bad stats and zero items, just as an example. Tinkerer heavily relies on the right stats and items, and you still need at least 1 of the actually useful abilities to make it work.
MY RANGER CAT FUCKING KILLED ALL MY OTHER CATS BECAUSE OF THE BLOODLUST EVENT FUCKFUFUCKFUCKING
Are people really drawing porn of cats?
>>733616070There are definitely impossible adventuresBut I think it's more like 10%, not 5%
>>733616125I got it with an allegedly bi one of opposite sex, hence my confusion.
>>733616171Yes, and I'm jerking off to it
https://youtu.be/yjx2qmuCEBM?si=JRd0U08cAxo1OeOmDon't you just love it when it happens?
>>733615992In all honesty, I'm clearing rooms by skating 99% of the time, the dart charges are going up rather than down, one spell + one passive is not exactly huge combo building
WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET POSSESSED AS A SOLO CAT I NEED TO KNOW
>>733616157hunter is dogshit with bad dex and barely does anything without a damage skill
>>733616154The Aryan spirit marches on
>>733616163Savescum it, save your warriors
>>733616086Notice how you never see > study enemy range, use the environment, and don't seek damage if you're trading an injury for itIs never advice over the "JUST ROLL HIGH AND BRING A CLERIC BRO!" advice that you see in these threads? 99% of the people in these threads limped to the end.
>>733616171not enough
Confess your sins.
>>733616221Nothing.Dybbuk just leaves.
>>733615992Tinkerer and Necro are probably the easiest classes to solo with, but feel free to keep coping.
>>733615960It isnt i just have 1 giant room filled with stim and the other 2 rooms are for garbage/kittens. Everyone is inbred to hell and i have no intention to change this since i am not ever going to remember 10+ cats nevermind 30
>>733616221zombie cock
>>733616226Huntrr doesnt need dex as you have coverage of half the map anyway and barely need to move
>>733614985Must be a bug. Hunter's thorns shot worked like a charm for me.
>>733616070only if you are shitthis game is 100% skill issuethis thread loves to whine about the game giving them impossible encounters and at the same time half the people here don't know you can right click the enemy and see their movement and attack range.The best example is the Daddy Shark which for plenty of people here seems to be IMPOSSIBLE if you are melee.
>>733616172there's no such thing as an impossible seed given the metaprogression, just bring a cat with the best stats, best passives and best items.
>>733616249Nevermind. Exhaustion got him. Seems like this is why this mechanic exist to prevent leech stalling.
>kill the bunker boss>reanimate it>it starts spawning normal enemies that attack me>have to kill it again
>>733615976Ranger is so ass lmfaoonly good ability is the "spot me" one
>>733616340Stop replying to aquajeet nigger the fuck you doing.
>>733616291Feel free to keep bullshitting.The achievement % clear rates already demonstrate which classes are strong or weak. Tinkerer is almost as bad as collarless.
>>733616143with 10 stimulation it may be too early to focus on inheriting abilities, the chances are just too low for you right now. but for stats the base chance is a coinflip, so it's entirely possible for you to breed all 7 cats.you need to create pair bonded cats. cats will love the cat they lose their virginity to, and will have a much higher chance of mating with them. this is doubled if they love each other. set aside a room solely for pair bonding cats with stats that complement each others weaknesses.
>>733616340Genuinely how would you deal with a daddy shark as pure melee solo without any extra mobility to get in and out
>>733616414>achievements are a metriclol fucking RETARD
>>733616221he uses a move called "stop hitting yourself" then vacates
>>733616269>hit the enemy and don't get hit in returnLOOK GUYS IM THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT OF THAT
>>733616340>half the people here don't know you can right click the enemy and see their movement and attack range.>The best example is the Daddy Shark which for plenty of people here seems to be IMPOSSIBLE if you are melee.Being able to see the enemy's attack range and movement range is pointless when they can act multiple times per turn. Daddy Shark is a good example. If you position yourself just outside of his range, you'll get instakilled because he has multiple turns.
>>733616269"study" and "strategy" when you're 2 bad events and 1 bad start away from getting wiped with no counterplay
>>733616292I mean that’s fine, but you should care enough to have a breeding room where you keep all your cats with 7s so you slowly work your way up to ones with multiple 7s. Aggressive inbreeding is a common way to get there from all I heard.
>>733616414>The achievement % clear rates already demonstrate which classes are strong or weak.no they don't
>>733616047If a bi/gay cat tries to get with one of the same gender that pops up. I have never seen it with a trans cat though
>>733616340How do you counter a grim reaper outspeeding your team and wiping it since it moves 4 times per round. By predicting it? And before anyone says lolol 60 hp--yes, he is not a hard miniboss at all, but early in the game unless you are using guides and reading every spoiler in these threads, you are going to fuck up--especially with some misleading descriptors
>>733616459>achievements are a metricYes.How are they not? Dumb shitposter.
>>733616438>you need to create pair bonded cats. cats will love the cat they lose their virginity to, and will have a much higher chance of mating with them. this is doubled if they love each other.Absolutely based mechanic
>breeding minmaxxing autism I just use the cellar for breeding everything with good stats + good mutations, throw all the gay/inbred down the pipe and use the other rooms for appeal only furniture and a fight club.
>>733616414Hell yeah I love reading the most retarded shit ever
I cast magic missile!
>>733616182I know Charisma affects cat breeding, maybe one had negative charisma
>>733616438Gee doc, you into this shit too?
>>733616629Nice ad hominem; zero argument.
>Tinker is good!>in solo with strong items and x3 more EXP >when you highroll passives and skillst. lowtierwhores
I wonder how viable an inbreeding only run with your first 2 cats would be
>>733616438>you should force two year olds into aphrodisiac filled rooms so they lose their virginity to each other and pair bond edmund...
>>733616497I just posted>>733616563Yes, the game does throw bullshit that stuffs you at your runs, but a lot of issues can be solved by avoiding unnecessary damage and instead thinking "man, I get gangstomped everytime I run directly into the enemy, let me blame the game and say cleric is S+ tier because of it." There's truth to both sides of the coin.
>>733616661Oh, you're right, it was absolutely in the basement because one of them was a just-barely malaria survivor.Boy that guy just can't catch a break.
>>733616563i beat grim reaper with 2 level 1s and 2 level 2s. spread your cats out. if one of your cats are about to die, kill one of those bone dogs so death teleports and aggros away from the cat that is about to die. it was a little sketchy but i didnt have a single cat die.
>>733616707and the anon doing that run isn't claiming tinkerer itself is good and said he god lucky with his first ability.The shitposter samefagging to say it's good acktually is just a faggot.
>>733616707Tinkerer is way too RNG to be good.And the opportunity cost of picking one over another, more consistent class makes it really bad overall.
why would I ever use a class that isn't fighter, hunter, mage, tank, or cleric?
>Tinkerer is bad bro it needs to get good skills like every single other class
>>733616438>with 10 stimulation it may be too early to focus on inheriting abilitiesok so my house stats aren't there yet, sounds like i need to do some more furniture runs first so thats good to know>cats will love the cat they lose their virginity to, and will have a much higher chance of mating with themso that's what determines love, i was wondering what was up with that>picture and idol of chastitythis is really helpful for reference, thanks for the info anonim trying to metagame too early it sounds like, good to know
>>733616465Too bad a strong enough cat can kill itself with that move
>>733616804Unlocks mostlyMonk, Druid, and Butcher are pretty good though
>>733616804butcher is a straight upgrade to fighter
Does anyone have translations for the Hitler speeches in the cutscenes, credits, and unit text? Also damn, that fight got obliterated with this setup
>>733616036Tank passives and skills are still utterly insane on their own. A cleric *could* tank if it has the meme spells like zealot or ethereal, but that just means you can take a hit.
>>733616804>mage
>>733616468These enemies barely change their behavior. It's easy to round 1/round 2 clear all the way through act 1 if you slow down and think about why you died instead calling it unfair rng bullshit
>>733616818Now explain what circumstances allowed you to craft that. Go ahead anon.
>>733616804>why would i eat anything that isn't rice, eggs, ketchup and water bro?
>>733616868>Druid
>>733616873Butcher makes Tank entirely obsolete, too.I'd say monk is an arguable upgrade to fighter because of its many ranged abilities which you will need in Act 3
Man, I feel kinda' bad every time there's a house defense fight and the place looks more and more fucked.
>>733615976I've switched out tank for butcher.
>>733616956Druid is good because of the crow, but is let down by the transformations being mostly shit.
>>733615976Need more?
>>733616782It outsped my team and took 2 cats out even with a scum. This was like a week ago. I don't have trouble with reaper now, but shit like that happensYou can get ambushed and lose before you can do anything too. It happens and no amount of skill can stop a wipe to bullshit.
>get blacksmith once>leave them in your house and let him breed until he passes the skillIt's that easy
>Hates Cavemen!No way me too
the soundtrack goes to shit after act 2 damn
The cat lineage management is making me too stressed out I might have to drop this.
>>733613897You just lose. I know this from experience, you immediately lose. It counts as the enemies unit, and youll have no units left. Fucking sucks
>>733613879>the better you do the more the game wants to cripple youThis isn't true. All of the random events, battles, and chest items are predetermined before you put them in box. You can influence the outcome with your stats, but it doesn't go "anon got such and such event, I'm going to give his cats aids now." You will always get the "4 candies" event on the same spot regardless of how you're doing in the run. You will always get the "broken paw with no stat check" event on the same spot no matter what you do. You can test this by copy pasting the "start of day" save and reloading it.
why is 90% of the difficulty in this game just the enemy taking 4 turns a round before you do
>>733617068Wrong
ALIEN CRATERFELINE INVADER
>>733617116They're trying to find where that smell is coming from
>>733617116>being a speedletYikes
>>733613879>auto balance
>brood of leeches - start combat with all enemies leeched>immortal leeches - when an enemy dies while leeched, apply all their leech stacks to your next basic attack>onions milk>the item that triples your basic attack status effectsLEECHED
>>733615976So who is the 4th? I tried bringing a necromancer and his zombies ate all my downed cats...
What's the best class for a solo run to the caverns?
Butcher absolutely wrecks Dack if you're patient
>>733616269Yeah I'd wager a lot of the people swearing by Cleric so hard are still trying to play the game like a normal SRPG.They're not using knockbacks, debuffs, watching enemy patterns or any of that stuff. Just trying to tank and spank with no contingency or flexibility in their teams.>>733615992Tinkerer's problem is mostly just that items scale weirdly. If you're still plinking the enemy with spitballs and batteries by Zone 3 then it's a struggle. But if you roll Blacksmith + some fucked up strong weapon like the Log or Sniper Rilfe it breaks the game.If it had more reliable acces to Tech (i.e., built in bonus action to spend coins to get 1 stack of Tech) it'd be a lot more consistent.That and all the mad scientist bullshit needs serious rethinking. It does way too little damage and puts the Tinkerer too far in harm's way for how ineffective it generally is.
Uh, I need injured cats for little johnny
>>733617116Your dex may be too low>>733617098Pretty sure tyler meant across multiple runs rather than over the course of a given run
>>733617086just scale down.It's easy to breed too many cats and get overwhelmed thanks to the bad UI, happened to me as well. I hung on to my home defense heroes and family elders out of attachment, but it's better to just get rid of them and only keep the very best.learn to dumpster your cats without remorse, as all the NPCs need lots of cats to get better and those upgrades truly help with progression.
>necromancer cat with the skill that makes it so when you apply a debuff you apply it to another enemy and the skill that inflixts 3 leeches on every other unitLiterally the only thing you need
>Pathfinder: spawn grass at your feet>Flower power: spawn flowers that also give +2 brace and +2 strength at your feet>Pathfinder takes precedence if you have both and you get no flowers, just two useless passivesOkay, fuck you.
How do Cleric's Blessings work? If you meet the condition the passive is gone for good, or the rest of the battle?
>>733616572Because you don't unlock the Tinkerer until later in the game, you absolute brainlet. You can't accurately assess how "good" something is by how many people use it, especially this early in the game's cycle when people have yet to figure out everythinf about it, and 2x especially off of Steam achievements, which will naturally include people who played the game for 3 hours and then never touched it again. Were you born a dumbass, or did it develop naturally as you grew older?
>>733617250>more reliable acces to Tech (i.e., built in bonus action to spend coins to get 1 stack of Tech)Why isn't this a thing??That one change would fix this dogshit RNG class
>>733617116turn order is paramount in any turn-based game.make your cats faster and the game will be a lot easier.
>>733617326Just the rest of the battle
>>733617098its probably seeded based on how well your runs have been goingin other words you should suicide a solo cat a couple times before attempting any major milestone
>>733617262KAT FIGHTKAT FIGHT
Stop using Tinkers and Mages unless you're gambler.
>>733617038>if you get the rare ambush event into the rare secret boss event while a solar flare destroys your computer and a hitman shoots you in the back of the head irl then you won't be able to win! ummm, most people don't have to cope this hard
>>733617328You can compare it against all other classes, including monk and jeater which are only unlocked after tinkerer. I shouldn't have to explain this.
Thoughts on this creature?
>>733617262make a fight club room, make confort -10 and put all the aggressive in it.
I think the honeymoon period for this slop is going to end as soon as everyone realizes how repetitive chapters 2 and 3 of each act are due to having only 1 final boss each and 1-2 minibosses only.
>>733617310Ya it's retarded how the overlaps are handled.
>>733617474Seed ass nigga about to grow into a tree
>>733617492Okay retard
>>733617492this isnt a gacha you cockmongler
>>733616937What do you mean, craft? I brought it and replenished uses with weapon smith.
Go Alduin go!I will say it's nice that when you send a lone cat, his name acts as group name.I will also say that exhaustion is bullshit. I haven't reached round 8 on any fight, but apparently some bosses (looking at you spider) just don't know how to act and the game resorts to exhaustion because fuck you
>>733616403you are stupid.
>>733617492>hundreds of different builds with synergythis is even more in-depth than slay the spire
>>733612260this fucking game keep crashing on my macchine what the fuck
don't mind me, just posting the worst OST in this kusogehttps://youtu.be/5YYqK5Ww_6g
>>733617492ermm... its three minibosses.
>>733617250Yeah, I fell for that before realizing just how strong rocks, extra bounce damage, and repositioning in general were to succeeding. Once you learn to restrain yourself and not move/attack every chance you get if it puts you in a bad position then the game becomes much more reasonable without a cleric's extra few points of healing over the insane utility you get with other classes once you start paying attention to the field and baiting enemies into safe setups
>>733617492yeah bro, just like Isaac died and became irrelevant
>>733617534the content of the game is rolling for big fat cat stats. its a gacha where you cum to 15 instead of to anime tits
>>733617601Upgrade from your potato
>>733617474looks juicy as hell but you must let her breed with a stray because it's already slightly inbred.
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
just did a run where an enemy spawned stuck, it was a rat. don't even know how I'd kill it if I just didn't happen to have a hunter.
>>733617415It is.I had a strong winning streak and suddenly started having significantly more bullshit from events and a significant increase in "elite" enemies everywhere. This was kinda confirmed by Edmund recently in a youtube interview that was posted a couple threads ago.
what's the song that plays at the end of the Hitler III fight where they yell >SMASH THAT HEADover and over, I'm not seeing it on the OST
>>733617638more like fix your fucking game
Lord Bunger is really cool. He just aura farms on his chair while the baby has a soirage meltdown, then hes ready for business, eats the baby, jumps off the chair, screams, eats all your cats and beats the shit out of them with a bone. Cool guy, Id like to interview him
>>733617492That’s cool and all but who asked?
>>733617492I would like to have more bosses in the pool too but not sure if it is really a big issue. Look at all other games like Risk of Rain, DD, StS.
The game peaked here not gonna lie
>>733617556This is not the gotcha you think it is, lol
>>733617439Bold of you to assume I ever use mages except for when I want to level Organ Grinder.
>>733617723I would rape him if he was real IRL
>>733617678I wish I realized the first time that he wont eat cats in contact when they are behind him.
>>733617250Tinkerer can work even if you completely ignore Tech. You can focus on Robot summons, stacking electrical damage, recharging with electrical damage with something like Technology, or do a straight up bomb build without the bombs with the Explosion Immunity passive and jetpack or whatever. Kind of in line with what you're saying, I feel like people focus too much on the individual classes in general. You bring 4 cats for a reason; you can build them towards different things depending on what you need for a run. The game isn't like NuCom, where every class is just different flavors of killing shit - there is an actual need for utility skills due to how much fucking HP and how many turns the enemies get. I think a lot of the people malding are trying to force every cat to be a DPS monster when it would be better off supporting the other cats. Explains why Mage gets shit on so much.
>>733617562Forgot image
>>733617658huh. does this mean mob spawns are random? I thought all of the maps were premade
new record for me, bred an 8 mutation catslighty inbred tho
>*slowly approaches*Your response?
>>733617678>kill his champions easily>he devours two of my cats before I eek out a victoryFucking bastard bitch man
>>733617725It’s not a gotcha, it’s the genuine answer, retard.
>>733617465>dying less than 10 hours into the game and saying it happens to just about everyone is copingI'm sure you have a ton of bitches on your dick for your successful blind collarless, solo, act 3 sidequest runs 3 hours into the game . Christ. I hate when a mildly challenging game comes out on /v/ and suddenly everyone is a gigabrain who never lost a single run and played every trpg ever made.
>>733617678He can only eat one guy per turn so summons are great
>>733617068GOT, GOT, GOT TO BE TOUGH
>>733617834persuasion device that fucker
>>733617824they are premade, I think I got a rare room made to fuck you over, just like isaac had some really rare rooms made to screw you.
>>733617834>*knocks him 10 tiles back*
>>733617835kill one champion and then cc it while pouring damage into bungerhis health carries over
>>733612260COOL MORE ASTROTURFED INDIE PIXEL SLOP WOW
>>733617845Tinkerer is only "good" if you already have some OP shit in the bag before you select the class, or if you het a hyper-specific set of its abilities/skills. It's a dogshit class overall.
>>733617802>straight up bomb build without the bombsBomb build isn't strong when you...don't roll any bomb skills for 6 level and your entire gameplay is>craft shit weapon>electrolyze it>throw
>>733617678Whyd he eat that baby?
>>733617834>20 hpDead before it takes its second turn.
>>733617834AHHHHH AHHHHHH HE ATE MY WHOLE TEAM AHHH WHY DID EDMUND MAKE A ROOM THAT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
>>733617856Holy cope
>>733617950He’s gear dependent. But you shouldn’t send out your cats naked after act 1.
Just made incredible dosh after my necromancer with shorthair roulette rolled multiple death perks. He stood in the corner and tried to end his life 3 times a round while raking in the dough. After he succeeded he coffin flopped around shitting on everything and giving his allies all stats ups.
>>733617942Its a flash asset game, stupid nigger, literally uses vectors instead of pixels. Negative IQ ultra retard
>>733617834How would you kill this if you only had cats that are close ranged?
>>733617834>*kiss*
>>733617474SMASHED
>>733617963>63hp, both take two actions a turn, and there are 2 of them.still more fair than some other enemies, though.
>>733617834*teleports behind him* nothin' personnel kid
>>733618027Hopefully he had children, absolutely insane levels of willpower in this man
>>733617805Motherfucker did it
>>733617802There is never a need for a tinkerer or a mage tho, that's why they are generally bad and extremely situational.
>>733618038In one turn. It has 20 something HP only
>>733617856That's the retard that admits he spent hours doing furniture runs.
>>733618083That’s the elite version, not that one. You are describing the elite encounter.
>>733618025Not just gear dependent, he needa extremely specific gear to be even viable.
Are you guys having fun?
How many fucking times in a row am I supposed to kill Guiloutina.
>>733618156Not her name
>>733618038Stuns or high enough damage per turn
Do you ever unlock a way to sort or view your cats as a catalog or something? It's very difficult to make decisions about who to tube and who to breed when I have to scroll through 20 cats in a one by one list that appears ordered by age until it's not
>there are people in this thread negative INT maxxing irl
>>733618136You look what his passive is and build around it, just like any other class.
>>733618156until you like it, anon
Heh, silly little rock monster.>>733618140Yes.
>>733618156MMM PUSSY
>>733617856The guy you're replying to stands out like a sore thumb and has been doing this shit for a week now. He claims that you'd have to be dumb to ever lose in Act 1 or 2 for any situation. Absolutely a save scummer, btw.
>cat got cancer thanks to the negative Health of the roomOh yeah, it's mutation time
>>733618140I'm actually having a blast thank you
>>733613469Good, they can eat shit.If you're gonna make a song about a videogame at least make your own song.
>>733618201you get little symbols to mark them with bit that's it
>>733618208>get a dogshit passive like electricity immunity>have zero electricity weaponsNow what fucko
first time monk seems not bad
>>733618140I have so much fun that it ruined my sleep cycle.
>>733618201No, Ed pushed the game out without it and it'll be a while before we can get a mod that does it because Tyler isn't adding the mod API until later.
>>733617618yeah then every enemy starts getting replaced by elites and positioning doesnt matter because they will be hitting your cats every round no matter what
>>733618203POOBUNGA MUHFUG RUG KIK?
How do you build your monk bros? Which skill to look out for?
>>733617472I really doubt you actually did an autistic analysis of said achievements to comparatively determine how much more likely people were to beat each boss with each class, anon. Even if you did, it's still too early in the game's lifespan to say, just from that, which classes are the "best." Almost nobody will have unlocked everything for every class at this point in the game, and those unlocks make classes better or worse by diluting the level up pool. And really, this is a shit way of trying to determine how good something is in general. The Watcher is, hands down, the most busted character in StS, but if you look at the Steam achievements more people have beaten the Heart with every other character, because she came out later. Some people will try Tinker once, go "meh" and never touch it again out of complacency. There's a lot of variables like that you can't control for when looking at Steam Achievements, which everyone understands implicitly, which is why everyone who replied to you called you stupid. Because what you are saying is stupid. Does that make sense?
>>733616494>If you position yourself just outside of his range, you'll get instakilled because he has multiple turns.I want you to sit and think for a second how you can get around that. What kind of information can a player extrapolate from:>being shown how far an enemy will move in one turnand>knowledge that the enemy will take multiple turnsand>knowing exactly WHEN they will take each turn>>733617802Mage can get by because a lot of its stuff falls under the umbrella of being a "Controller" - lots of knockbacks, slows and stuns generally no matter what your luck is.Tinkerer's distinct archetypes go in three completely different directions with no overlap outside of Catbots intersecting nicely with item spam.
What's the best song that only plays on the radio?
Fuck, Marry, KillGuillotina, Pyrophina, Zaratana
>>733618268Put a reroll item on the cat and draft an electro skill.
>>733613375Tinker push bot deny any charge.
>>733613353HE GETS AWAY WITH MURDERGETS AWAY WITH MURDER
>>733614739uh oh anon is about to learn the dwarf fortress 2cat lesson...
Bros...I just want to highroll with mage and experience peak MAGIC.I'm engineer of my own suffering.
>>733618270Make sure to upgrade Charge Fist
>>733618303I accept your concession
>>733613148give him a break
>>733618314>I want you to sit and think for a second how you can get around thatAh yes>just use your melee cat to move 10 tiles towards the daddy shark's direction, attack him, then move 10 tiles backwards bro
>>733618320Legend of the CLAW
>>733618338>Put a reroll item onAh yeah we all have plenty of those laying around spare.lol
>>733618386>Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt, Lightning bolt
>>733618320KING OF THE JUNGLE OR SO THEY SAY
>>733613824How do you breed a cat like this at level 1?
>>733618386I got one by doing the all me sidequest.Fucker had meteor shower+ and it ended every battle in 1 or 2 turns. I literally managed to solo defend against the kaiju boss with it
>>733618337These are all foid cats btw
>>733618314>Tinkerer's distinct archetypes go in three completely different directions with no overlapthat's exactly the issue I'm having with him.It's too rare to even get a passive and an ability or God forbid two abilities that synergize.so it's more likely than not to roll a bad Tinkerer who will be close to useless and who's blocking a party slot any other caster could have taken and been better at.
>>733618438You should. They drop frequently.
>>733618386Just get Meteor and the cast twice spell
>>733618320SHE WAS ABLAAAAAAACK PUSSY
>>733618272>>733618201It was in development for like 14 fucking years and the game is about managing dozens of cats. How does this even happen?
>>733617956>bombs aren't good if you have no bombsWow, no shit?That's when you build towards something else, dude. Absolute worse case scenario where you have a Tinker that can't get tech and has no skills that synergize with each other (which is certainly due to the player fucking up) you could still make him useful with a lot of singular skills. Nurse bot, the electric heal, dynamite or jetpack to clear 1hp trash mobs or proc on-damage effects of another cat, hiding in the back putting mana into nuclear bomb, fucking electric studs and anything else no matter what it actually does.
>>733618503Source? What makes them drop frequently compared to any other item?
>>733618416>spewer came out in 09I don't want to be reminded that I'm getting old, man.
>>733613682genuinely never had a good tinkerer runi've tried it like 8 times but it's literal dogshit every timemaybe i'm just not high IQ enough for them, i'll keep spamming butcher and ranger every run for free winz
>>733618503No they don't
>>733618140I had a crazy fun time for about 40 hrs but I'm running out of steam (just reached act 3), getting demotivated by losing runs from shit that isn't my faultBloodrage on my hunter and depression on my tank, both unavoidable and at the same run, were the final straw
Peppino is gay?!Also wow, nice stats and skill for a sniper.
>>733618392Nigger.
https://youtu.be/WsfWFwWtR_g?t=71
Have yinz fought that rabid rabbit yet? It's an easy fight but it's cool that an event can lead to a unique fight, I wonder if there's anything else like that.
>>733618418>be fighter>use confront to get in front>knock his block off>turn 360 degrees>walk awayremember to save your move action for last or use a dash to escape
>>733618546The D6 is a common trinket. Doesn’t get more frequent than that.
>>733618320PLEASE DON'T WAKE ME I'M WARNING YOU NOWMEOWMEOWMEOWI'LL SWAT AT YOUR HEADTILLYOU'REDEAD(Close your eyes)(Go to sleep)
>>733618038I did it last thread only because my fighter had dumb muscle. I used a mana consumable to max his mana, had my team smack my fighter around so he lost intelligence and gained 100% crit, stacked bruise on the shark, and then killed him with one big -42 HP hit, leaving the shark at 1 HP, and then my tank finished them off before the shark got another turn. If I didn't have dumb muscle and the nip skill here I would have definitely lost most of my team if not the entire fight. I kind of built this team for tanking and testing necromancer for the first time so this level was basically countering me>>733618108This was on the hard path and he had more like 56 HP
>>733618613Closest I've had to that was an event that led to a shopNo rare candy though, fucking cunt
>>733618540>you have a Tinker that can't get tech and has no skills that synergize with each other (which is certainly due to the player fucking up)How is that the player's fuck up?It is complete luck, there is almost zero influence you can have over it. There is barely any good strqtegy for tinkerer, you really are at the whim of RNG. Both class ability RNG and item RNG.
What the fuck did I just listen to? Something about a radio host talking about an IFD mic?
>tank get chosen to donate blood>has hardyFree all stats up baby
Do the quest item rewards you get from Dr. Benis turn into item drops or do you just get one copy? I have so many of them cluttering my inventory.
>>733618552spewer and time fcuk are old enough to legally vote this year
>>733618418No anon, you're not getting it.If you know:>This shark will move one tile on its turn - and where the danger zones will be on that turnand>This shark will two turns before your cat's next turnWhy would you leave your cat only one tile outside of the range the game shows?
>>733618320>>733618640MRS MARY WINSTON JONESCOULD NOT HAVE ANY CHILDREN〜WHEN HER HUBBY'S SEED SWAM INTHE LORD ABOVE JUST KILLED 'EM〜〜〜Not actually the best but I love that part.
>>73361864p>MIAOOW>MIAOW>MIIIAAAOOOOWW
>>733618613There’s several of those. Imagine my surprise when I hard a kitty that could solve the puzzle cube event.
>>733618623Are you fucking trolling?Never found a single one
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>miss the shitty primordial dwarf I accidentally got because I was keeping her just in case and she was so tiny I didn't see her>fucks and pair bonds with my perfect stud without me noticingI will never recover from this one
how do i furnituremaxx? i'm getting my ass kicked and i think it's time to focus on breeding but i have no clue how to optimize this shit
>>733618708Show me a worthless Tinkerer and I will tell you where you fucked up.
>>733617528lmao
>>733618640like a sugar plum with mousey spice :3
>>733618320kannibal kitty
>>733618815>Oh wow you didnt take v2.0 or blacksmith, that's what you did wrong!Brilliant anon, you're so smart
>>733618809Act 1 hard gets you two pieces of common furniture and Act 2 hard gets you rare furniture
>>733618783take your own life whenever it's most convenient
>>733616882Iirc in the credits he's talking about how he hates cats because he's allergic and keeps sneezing and tearing up.
>>733613174Isaac...
>>733618815You're just being a contrarian for the sake of it by this point, and the fact you think d6 is a common trinket like you have one every run makes me suspicious you're just trolling.
>Haven't beat Guillotina 2 yet>Act 2 openShould I start grinding this path? I'm getting a little tired of Alley but I don't have any good cats to kill Tina 2 with.
>>733618796the cats aren't monogamous so don't despair.just dumpster the dwarf and keep the stud for breeding
>>733618946nice, I was hoping it was something as mundane and funny as thatalso that last bit of the fight was brutal, just smashing his head over and over and over until he's a literal puddle on the ground
>>733618767It’s a trinket that is common. Look it up, I don’t know what to tell you. If you unlocked Tinkerer and never saw one, that seems very unlikely.
>>733618906You can't even show me a tinkerer because you don't play the game. Get a job, retard.>>733618948I'm genuinely a different anon.
>>733618623There are 100 or so trinkets in the game. Even if we assume half of them are rare+, that's still 1/50, and you're lucky if you get more than one trinket per area.
>>733618991yeah why notquests are also good, they give a lot of money to buy furniture with
>>733619031I'm not that guy, my last tinkerer was decent, had the robot summon skill, mini me and the giant robot skillCarried my ass through the crater, then my rock eating tank carried me in the moon
ROBOTS TRACK YOUROBOTS FIND YOUROBOTS KILL YOU
>>733619031>I'm genuinely a different anonFair enough then.I still strongly feel that tinkerer is usually shit
>>733619051You see shops, you get items out of crates, killing birds etc… you collect them when you see them and store them for cats that really need them. I never ran into a supply problem with them.
>>733618140120 hours in and I don't even feel fatigue yet
>>733619164Dunno what that guy is smoking, tinkerer has like 4 really good skills and he's pretty ass if he doesn't get them
>>733619145Cool. I just can't understand how people are struggling so much with building their cats. I've had cats that did nothing but cast Sunburn once per turn for the entire first half of the run because they had nothing else going for them, and I still found them SOMETHING to do by the time I got to the final boss. It's either genuinely impossible to have cats that are completely useless (without getting fucked by events), or I'm secretly blessed by God with incredible good luck in vidya gayms in particular.
>>733618140I've lost 4 lbs because I play this game so much I forget to eat.
>>733618416Edmund you fuck let me use melee units
>>733619252Yeah, multiple times in a row when I play tinkerer I get garbo abilities like the mad scientiest stuff that hurts yourself more than it hurts the enemy ir adding +1 shock dmg to a weapon.
>>733619312I don't think anyone shitting on some cats being useless are saying that literally, if a cat could only cast sunburn for the first few turns I'd definitely call him useless
>>733619340ALWAYS BRING THE BUTCHERdiagonal melee is insane
>got necro class>oh neat my cat summons zombies every end of round>one of my cats gets downed>one of three zombies beelines for my downed cat and eats itfml.
>Collarless Party>Had a cat with the passive that had "When downed, All allies gain 12 hp, or 12 armor if full hp">Give him everstone and a uranium rod so he has 1 hp>My other two cats have res skills>strategy becoming the two cats chain beating and ressing him for massive overhealing>last cat focused on spider summoning>could poop and then break it for easy spiders>Fill up the map with spiders that gain 24 armor every round>Sadly my sacrificial cat died because when they spiders couldn't path to the final boss they instead infested his body and blew him up
>>733619535No, these people genuinely seem to think that picking Tinkerer is a 50/50 shot on it being worse than running 3 cats. That's what I'm trying to get at - just because a cat starts out only casting Sunburn once per turn doesn't mean he stays that way. I had a tinker that started with the 7 mana add electric damage skill and had 3 charisma after the first event, and a mage that had nothing but the give mana ability. Both were useless out the box, but I could use the mage to give mana to the tinkerer, letting him get +6 damage on a spitball or whatever, which was actually pretty decent for the early game. Two shit cats meaningfully contributing, just from that. Then, as the run progressed, they both picked up more useful stuff and started doing their own thing. Those classes aren't "bad" because they took more effort than the Tank and Hunter I brought along. They were still very useful by the time I beat the Throbbing King.
>>733619312when people say a cat is "useless" it's not literalbut while the ranger is chuking 40 damage for 4 mana and the butcher's basic attack does 17x2 aoe damage, my tinkerer takes 2 turns to create an ok weapon that does like 15 damage at most or spends 9 mana making a robot that then takes the entire round to move and heal some other cat for 5 and at that point yeah i'd fucking say he's useless
>>733619810>comparing properly built and prepared unit against notyeah obviously. any class looks like shit like that>psychic can otk any room and boss>meanwhile ranger can do 4 damage a turnwaowwww
>>733619810>spends 9 mana making a robot that then takes the entire round to move and heal some other cat for 5This is a big deal when you didn't bring a cleric and your ranger just got curbstomped for 18 unavoidable damage on Turn 1.
>shitters in this thread coping by the dynamic difficulty joke the devs are repeating
labs ain't so bad but it's so fucking gimmicky and more enemies can inflict injuries, you won't get downed but it's fucking annoying FUCK
>>733619805I've had a tinkerer I took all the way to throbbing king and he remained borderline useless the entire time. Not a single opportunity for any bots/summons, tech upgrades, or anvil in sight. Absolute cannon fodder class.
>>733619926Edmund did not sound like he was joking in that interview tbqhwy
>>733619362The self-harm abilities are actually pretty fun if you put brace on them. They do a lot for how cheap they are.
>>733619893the problem arises from the fact that 9/10 tinkerer runs are like that, while 8/10 hunter runs are good, and 10/10 butcher runs are goodeven in your example psychics usually won't carry but they'll be extremely good support, tinkerer either carries with a perfect or does fuckall, or even actively fucks over you with explosion cancer>>733619905maybe i should've picked a cleric instead then
>>733619927>have build focused entired on magic damage>future enemies all have 100% magic defense
>>733619991That's genuinely never happened to me after 50 hours, and getting fucked by RNG isn't class-dependent. You could get a hunter with Luck Swing who never gets any way to remove debuff or get unmissable shots, too.
>>733620054They're useless late-game
>bunga killed 3 of my cats but I managed to win >incredibly nervous about going back to the past againI can't even fathom trying hard routes in Act 3 without some insane round 1 build.
>>733620163>You could get a hunter with Luck Swing who never gets any way to remove debuff or get unmissable shotsThat's still better than the average tinkerer experience
>>733620080>maybe i should've picked a cleric instead thenBut then you wouldn't have had the chance to gamble on explosion immunity + top hat + add electric damage, senpai. That's the point. Your cleric might've never rolled any heal other than its basic attack, plus no cleanse, plus no holy weapon. That's technically possible. Does that make Cleric a shit collar?
>>733620398>Your cleric might've never rolled any heal other than its basic attackNTA but that's kind of the point. Cleric always has a reliable heal and if all else fails, you can pump strength stat up in a multitude of ways. You are locked out if pumping the tech 'stat' the majority of the time, and thus is why tinkerer is worse than pretty much all other classes by default.
>>733620163>You could get a hunter with Luck Swing who never gets any way to remove debuff or get unmissable shots, too.oh no, the high luck class gets an ability that favours high luck, what a knightmare how will i ever recover from 16 damage basic attacks from the startalready does more than 99% of tinkerers do by the end of the run>>733620398anon cleric must have 5 actually shit abilities total, it's literally mathematically impossible to get a build in the level of worthlessness as the average tinkerereven in basic terms just having the innate heal is better than taking 2 turns to do anything because you have to build a weapon then throw it if it's melee
>>733620565>>733620590What are these useless skills you're rolling on Tinker that you dread seeing, anons? Seriously, what in their pool is so terrible? I'm actually curious.
>>733620752It's mostly those mad scientist type of abilities, as well as the armor up and electricity based abilities that are mostly useless for late game areas (many of them damage you or your entire party too)
>>733620854I like the electricity abilities. The electric studs one is great. Thread's dead, so I'll just agree to disagree.
>>733620752if you don't get one of the 5 tech abilities you are literally uselessyou get some overpriced summons that do fuckall or shitty armor/explosion abilities that are also overpricedalso having shit cha in a class that has so many high cost spells is retarded
>>733620998I kept getting garbo like eject button and shoddy jetpack
>>733621029Healer bots and the mech are good, dunno about the other sunmons as they never fucking show up anyway.
>>733620278I don't know what you're talking about. They're like the cheapest repositioning tool in the game, shit worked great when I ran it to the jurassic.
>>733621134You're trolling me dude
>>733621108turret, nuke, bombchu and decoy
>>733621108Vaccuum bot and punch bot are both good. Second does damage, the first feeds you coins and heals.
>>733621220Never had any of those.I did have catbots once, they weren't worth the mana cost and weapon loss
>>733621283oh yeah catbots too, they are shit as well
>>733621206if you compare them to teleports they do mog5-8 mana is about what you expect for far movement and tinker gets it for 3-5 with damage ontop
>>7336212063 cost 5 damage dash is super spammable, like 25 damage a turn with only 5 damage recoil with 4+ brace.
>>733621378>>733621394Yeah great you get to zip around without contributing anything. Tinkerer in a nutshell
