>gives you the worst rewards
silent girldick or ironclad girldick
>>735056398she should reward you with sex (+1 energy -15 hp)
>almost at the act 2 boss>still no win con cardjust give me channel X lightning PLEASE
>>735056273>Surely the Elite dodging meta doesn't stick around on full releaseI feel like at least on Necro for every 1 potion you get you can go after two elites, you just pick up damage etheral cards and focus events before them since she scales insanely well with even the simple card enchants
chem x is such a ridiculous relic with whirlwind or cascade, maul is also insane with cascade but its the first time ive seen the maul option so i imagine its somewhat rare
>>735056715I've seen the maul option in about 1/3 of my games so far
>>735056398>worstShe can't make you choose between 3 different run brickers like Vaaku does. Tanx is still the absolute best though.
I am just here to state the fact that the best boss is knowledge demon by far
Act 2 elites are far harder than act 3 and 1 elites conbined. They are pure bullshit in terms of mechanics. Other than that the health and dmg values are perfectly fine for those bullshit elites.
>>735056869the centipede needs to do something else other than attack with all three parts every turn and bee man should only put in say 3 dazed every time hes attacked once a turn, the rock is just a block check
what if the doormaker put his massive uncut willy through the door?
>>735056501girls don't have dicksonly boys have dicks
how good each class is:Ironclad > Necrobinder > Defect > Silent > Regent
>>735057043From my experience so far:Silent>Necrobinder>Regent>Ironclad>Defect
>>735056869>t.
>>735057043In my experienceNecro > Silent > Defect > Regent > IroncladBut Ironclad always felt weird to play for me, even in StS1
>randomly before the boss Defect player draws Defect's head>the other 3 of us draw our characters' heads right afterSoulful silent multiplayer organic fun
So is regent the worst? He's my most played but even now he's the only one I sometimes don't even clear act 1 with
>>735057289He has too many garbage cards that do nothing
How many hours yall got so far? Im on 70...Shits too easy to play on the Steamdeck..
>>735057289Regent feels like he needs twice as many star gen cards as spenders. Even then you have to pray you get something like a enchant on one of them or relic to have more stars turn 1, because you will draw them out of order. I think a lot of his problems would be solved if his starter one had innate.
Your opinion on this card determines how good you are at the game
>>735057289bro your radiance and stardust?
Ironclad is in such a bad spot right now. Not power-wise, but balance wise. He feels like the Watcher but worse. I can dodge all elites act 3 and just go infinite turn 1
>>735057202clad plays kinda weird in this game, but if you know what to look for he can go infinite nearly every run.
>play the game>literally 80% of the cards and events are the same or very close>only difference is better arti stopped at floor two when i got the golden compass, what am i missing? is the online mode where the "fun" is? im enjoying it but it feels like I'm playing sts1, i started playing solo because i didn't want to fuck up at the online mode>>735056501silent, ironclad is a guy if he was a tomboy orc I'd change my answer
Necro player please come back to us
>>735056868Fuck him in particular
>>735057202Nah>Silent100% WR for good players on A10>Necro/ICSurvive act 1 and you win>DefectStrong af but balanced well>RegentUndertuned
>>735057549I'm here, storm knocked the internet loose.
>>735056398Wait you actually like this image? The other anon was right, it's 100% AI, I just used Gemini to deconstruct the image to make it look like I drew it. Was trying to see if people would fall for it and most people did. I just kept posting "progress" pics until someone figured it out. Here's the final version.
>>735057485I have yet to see it in a run, but anything that exhausts your hand is really good, esp when you can draw a full hand every turn with souls
>>735057592why are you like this? got no attention as a child?
>>735057583>>735057549Same invite doesn't work, you may have to rehost from the save
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ABCoTH0XoGlorious.
>>735057652Have you tried to exit and reenter Steam and use the same invite?
this was a silly run
REHOSTEDsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242917786666/76561198043831607get in here Necro, Defect, Regent
>>735057703Yes, it says the game no longer exists.
>>735057650Was curious because I saw people calling everything AI slop, even when it wasn't AI at all, was seeing if I could trick those same people into falling for an AI image and believing it was real. Kind of like that shitty sonic drawing fake-out. That's literally all it was. Got found out sooner than I expected though.
>>735057760You need to start a new game
>>735056501Necrobinder boner
Get in here steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242917711876/76561198029311169
>>735057778>people still called yours soulful and the grok image shitty because they thought yours was realPretty successful desu
Ironchads, whats the best way to play him?I was trying vuln stacking but it was rough
>>735057984Remove every block card. Hit them in the face. Win.
>>735057043For me they are all roughly equally strong. I do the worst with Necro and win most runs with the others
>>735056398>Can make 7 rooms of combat trivialMaybe it's the scrub in me but that's basically 3-4 free card rewards plus potions, plus possibly a relic. Sure, you may not need it by the start of act 3 but if your deck still needs some things it is absolutely transformative.What are your preferred Ancient rewards?>NeowFree gold, usually.>TezcataraBig Hug is neat. The Pumpkin can also be a big boon.>PaelSacrificing card rewards for relics.>OrobasEvolving the starter cards always feels cool.>DarvA nice way to include the old stuff but not particularly exciting on his own.>TanxThe Meat Cleaver for sure.>VakuuParasol is a big messy gamble but I do love it.
>>735057984Take every energy generating and card draw spell. Bloodletting and Pommel Strike are S tier cards despite being common, make sure you upgrade your pommel strikes
>>735057984this>>735058034Pillage + Expect a fight
>>735056398She will reward me by crushing me to death under the weight of her thighs.
Coolest character ranking:Regent > Defect > Ironclad > Necrobinder > Silent
>>735057485Seems useless to me
>>735058205Silent literally does not speak. Nothing cooler than a silent, mysterious protagonist.
>>735058205
>>735057485Considering how easy it is to fill your hand with her, it's bretty gud
>>735057984there is no such thing as vulnerable stacking if you don't get this card in act 2, it just doesn't work and then of course you'll need dismantle and bully
Where did our schizo go? Did another game come out for him to have a melty over? I don't miss him, just hoping I never see him again.
>>735058251Women can't be cool. Universal rule and I don't make them, sorry.>b-but necrob-She is undead so it doesn't count on her.
>>735057485I haven't used it because I am retarded but I recently lost a run because of Undeath and now realize this would have saved me.
>>735056398999 gold is very good, apotheosis is situationally great and Diadem is completely busted in the right deck
>>735058348Probably got banned for blatant spamming and samefagging. Can't be too obvious about trolling or you attract the jannies.
I just created a 2 card infinite lmao
>>735058367Reagent is a woman though, at least based on all the fan art I see of him.
walked into bee boss with 26 cards, squeeze that does 50, and 38 hp and i still can't win even with savescum
>>735056868>time eater but even more obnoxiousNo thanks
>>735058424Being banned never stopped him before.
I won one with Regent finally. Feels like only one of his builds actually works (star spam) colorless and sovereign blade need work
>>735058470Unpopular opinion, but the game not having time-eater to shut down infinite decks is bad for the game. Especially in multiplayer.
>>735056398how do I make her my wife?
>>735058545he is 100% coming back at some point
>>735058507Now that you have won once, you should have more cards that support his other builds unlocked. Blade works. Haven't tried colourless though.
>>735057289I'm pretty sure everyone on A10 universally agrees regent is the worst
>>735058545>invalidate half the characters just to stop infinitesNo thanks
>>735058557You need to make it to act 3 first. Just die over and over until she forms some kind of stockholm syndrome.
>>735058446I don't care about what they do in fanart.
>>735057592It's not a bad image when compared to most slop people shit out. You're just kind of a weirdo for going through all this weird rigmarole.
>>735058623Yes, unironically. Every other archetype has an enemy that counters it, but not infinites. Closest is the deer ringing his gay little bell, but that's only for 1 turn, and he's probably dead before he even gets to ring it.
>>735058590Forge is fun but much weaker than starsColorless is just an RNG festDeck manipulation is interesting but very half baked
>>735058251Yeah but they're trying to retcon her into a sheboon
They should make all strikes forge instead of dealing damage.
>>735056398What does this character look like ingame, though?
>>735057202All of them feel super strong to me.
>>735058672Hard turn ends with no counterplay is unfun and half the time ends up punishing shit thats not even infinite over stuff that is. For example talk to the hand added to the Watcher infinite in StS1 made TE trivial but he still shat on plenty of other decks that weren't infinite instead
Jesus who was shitting out that damage
>>735057202i also struggled with ironclad in StS1 but for some reason hes my best character in 2, he does play pretty differently here thoughi think the reason he feels so good in 2 is because of how hard it is to get more than 3 energy but ironclad has so many ways of gaining extra energy that it doesnt matter
>>735057760gg boys that was a very fun run as regent. started off mainly supporting with weak/vuln/debilitate from an event, then I got void form and just became a god
>>735058664Most people just prompt and spit. The most Indian thing about me is I have a whole AI workflow to try and not produce slop images. I won't deny being a weirdo. At least I can just straight post my slop now instead of fucking around in GIMP. >>735058718She was literally always black.
GG fellows>offer Fysh Oil (1 str 1 dex) to whoever wants it>Regent player writes at me like he is RegentThis guy >>735058884>...>Doormaker fight starts>immediately throw the pot at him first thingKEK>>735058876That was Regent. Me, I was playing my humble exhaust looping and not doing much because I only had 1 Body Slam+ and game only ever gave me 1 Evil Eye that whole run
Why did they make it so hard for the player to get Artifact?
You guys want one more before I sleep? If not I'm going to go do dishes and maybe do a bit of TF2
>>735058892>Black =/= sheboon
>>735058849Lots of things are un-fun. Like I said, it's an unpopular opinion, but I think his mechanic is a necessary evil.
>>735057547please reply to me what am i missing
Which one was the first true difficulty bump?
>>735059053>someone else tell me why I don't like this gameNo.
>>735056398Apotheosis is good, the Glam relic is fucking awesome, she has some bad rewards but usually at least 1 is pickableThe Witch in Act 2 has way worse rewards on average
>>735058980I'm going to bed but there might be other anons who want to play. Perchance.
>>735059075If we're being honest it's A2 because clearing Act 1 with reduced HP is actually very difficult if you wanna snag a couple of elites.
>>735059165Thanks, saving that
>>7350590755Playing with Ascender's Bane vs without is wildly different
>>735058108Yep, he's not very fun to play. Gain energy, spam card draw, and exhaust until you can go infinite.
i picked this up to play with some friends and i realized im pretty ass at card builderswhich character doesnt need to achieve a hyper autistic infinite deck or atleast which character is the least difficult to achieve an infinite deck with?
>>735059075>a2>this includes neow at the start of the gameNew to the game. When does that clause matter?
>>735058807Actually never mind the reagent is a cuck
how do i win ez with defect? (how do i not self sabotage). i just unlocked him but i made a lot of booboos on my first run
>>735059438you start every run at 80% hp
>>735059438you start the game at 0 hp until you speak to him
>>735059479Ah, right, I get it. Didn't think of it that neow is resurrecting you.
>>735059075A9 is the only modifier that matters. A10 is irrelevant.
>>735057592>assume an anon made some art for the game (didn't inspect it looking for slop because I had faith)>made the next thread with it because I like giving draw anon's some attention>see thisYou are brown and have lowered my faith in people.
>>735059478easy mode is orbs (not so much total orbs, which can be nice)ice is for block, once you have enough block just spam the other orbs for damageits pretty easy once you get the hang of how the orbs work
thanks for the rare transformation neow...
>>735059573>he doesnt have kings gambit
>>735059420Silent is the least difficult to build an infinite withJust pick some sly cards and draw/discard stuff
Okay yeah Reaper Form is good I just had a run where it was effectively 3 energy deal 300 damage to the boss lmao
>>735059559ill give it a shot
>>735059478Both of my wins on Defect happened when I took random bullshit so try doing that
>>735059573This card is so ass compared to other star damage cards. At least comet gives weak and vuln. I would only take this card willingly in a win more situation with a void form deck or with the scarf.
>>735058980NTA but I'm down for a game
>>735059016I know for a fact she'd never let you finish
>>735059478People say orbs but honestly the self status build is really fucking good if you can find just one Smokestack or Trash to Treasure, because then you can just take a bunch of 0 cost status generating cards and draw and mindlessly play your whole deck with very little downside
>>735059573Seven Stars is really fucking good dudeJust find some stargen and you're golden
>>735059661HOSTING NOWSLEEPING ONCE THIS RUN ENDSsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242920145481/76561198043831607
People keep saying "just dodge elites"But every time I see a good player play, they just take like 4 elites an act like nothing
>>735059603Now that you mention it, I haven't seen King's Gambit in like four attempts...
>>735059721we are 2/4need 2 more
>somehow picking every power card I saw ended up winning me my a5 regent runWell alright then
>>735059736get kings gambit and use decisions to play it thrice then stardust
>>735059694It's trash anon. 2 cost energy is especially egregious for such a shit star card. Mogged into oblivion by astral pulse as the god tier aoe card.
>>735059658Regent likes multi attack cards and Seven Stars is a multi attack AoE. It's a bit expensive but when you have your star generators on line it'll carry you through act 1 and most of act 2 and can be central to your scaling
>>735056398Her one relic that halves damage if you play less than 2 cards a turn saved my run, so I disagree.
LEGENTO.... KIKKU!
>>735059817Cosmic Indifference, Photon Cut, Glimmer all help you enable this card.
>>7350596587x7 isn't bad desu with void formyou can buff it with terrformingis it better than Radiant/Stardust? Probably not most of the time
>>735059556Sorry, Anon. I expected when it was called out that people understood the situation.Not like it really matters anyway, more than half the images posted here are AI now, and 90% of the lewds are all AI. But it's gotten so good it's hard to tell a lot of the time. It's not your fault, it's mine.
>>7350597212 more get in pleasesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242920145481/76561198043831607
>>735059795In default deck you can't even play it until you cycle twice at minimum. In what world is that good? Whereas chadstral pulse is always ready to go from turn 1.
>>7350599043/4 IN1 MORE NEEDED
>>735059926>In default deck you can't even play it until you cycle twice at minimumAnd then you add Hidden Cache to your deck and then this isn't a problem
>>735059573Update. I actually managed to pull enough generators to turn it on by Vantom but I had lost so much health from it bricking my hand in hallways that I had to burn every campfire on healing and then got outraced.Next time I'm just going to take the extra strike and defend for relics.
>>735059961>>7350599041 more player? anyone?
>>735059904UNO MAAAAAAS
>>735056398Name?
>>735059817People have been complaining about these cards but punch and kick have done a ton of work for me
The Smith/Void Form into Snecko Eye yes it's just that easy
>>735059996Reliant on drawing cache before stars in separate hands. 2 cycle is still realistically when you play it on average.
Do you prefer to have your deck ruined by exterminate or smash?
>>735060317i like exterminate because its aoe
>>735060204Kick is OK but it takes a long time for it to be actually good. If it was doing like 28 instead of 24 it might have more of a place. Regent has better early game damage as isPunch is a rampage tier meme card that doesn't do anything
>>7350597862 energy cost is expensive but it makes incredible use of incidental strength, vuln, or vigorIt's perfectly playable with just one Royal Gamble and with any of the stuff I mentioned above can often win even Act 3 fights on its own because of how efficiently it scales
>>735060272It's a good thing Regent has a bunch of ways to pull shit from his discard pile and put it in his draws
>>735060579>this card is good because it needs 3 other cards played in a specific order and draw to go off>also it eats your rare chance when it shows upASTRAL PULSE
>>735060754Anon it's a card builder. Being reliant on other cards isn't a negative, especially when you fulfil the conditions the card straight up wins you fightsDo you think the Silent's Sly cards are bad because they "need" cards that say Discard on them to work?
I finally had to save and quit for the first time because I picked the power that gives you a random attack every time you attack from a colorless potion, not realizing the cards it generates stay in your deck for the rest of combat. That was so fucking stupid, had like 40 attacks before I died to test subject.
>>735059898>more than half the images posted here are AI now,delusional faggots
Unmovable hasn't been talked about much, but it feels insanely strong. 32 block from a single unupgraded blood wall is enough for almost the entire game
>>735060810NTA but I'd argue that a significant part of why Silent's discard build is so good is that the discard enablers and the payoffs are both already playable on their own and then scale together for nothing. Star cards do not have this luxury and there's good reason that Regent is universally considered the worst character.
>>735060810It's not a terrible card but it is not a great card and should be a very niche take.
>>735060754Astral Pulse just doesn't scale like Seven Stars It's not really something you'd get until you realize just how good multi hits are for the defect. This is legitimately one of his most consistent ways to win
>>735060972I'm not arguing that Regent isn't the worst character, I'm arguing that Seven Stats is a good card if you have even trivial amounts of star generation because of how well it scales with other mechanics.
>>735060925it is strong as fuck i always pick it and upgrade it pronto
>>735060925I don't know if I'd call it insanely strong but it's a really neat way to let Ironclad flood his deck with attacks while getting value from the few block cards he does add
>>735059075a1 is meaningless but a2 and beyond are actual difficulty increases, though a2 is a pretty small one that only matters one in every few runs. a3 is where you'll feel it in every run.
>>735059573>Transform my strike/defend into Voltaic and Ice LanceAbsolutely dumpstered that A9 run
>>735061050I've cleared A10 regent. I know how he works and what you are describing are inconsistent high roll strategies. Small star cost cards are much better because you can consistently trigger child of stars value and gain efficient amounts of block rather than dumping your load, overblocking, and getting reamed on the next turn. Regent is a defensive beast and playing him with an offense focused playstyle is oftentimes flirting with disaster. The output from all the small cards does add up to enough to clear anything without worrying about getting outscaled.
my deck has 30 fucking cards and like 5 of them are block
>>7350590758
>Regent is a defensive beastOh I've been getting trolled. I see
>>735059075A855~ hp milipede, 35~ hp eels are actual run enders
>>735061247>reflect>particle wall>child of the stars>GUARDS!!!!>consistent sources of weakYou've been outed as a retard. No wonder you overvalue seven stars. I never said it was a never take or anything like that. I would almost always take astral pulse if both are offered though.
>>735061247only cause of particle wall. stars are completely busted and regent's other cards might as well not exist
Why is it so much better to avoid elites now?
>>735059898you are indian
>>735061439The odds of getting a good relic are absolutely piss and elites will shave resources off of most builds very consistently in this game since enemy design is heavily oriented around damage racing. The only reason you hunt elites is that they offer better card rewards, and they ARE good for that, but a build that can deal with elites effectively is often already good enough to go to end game without taking the risk so you're better off hitting the act 3 boss with extra health.
>>735061370All of things you posted except Guards require just as much star investment to use as Seven Stars doesI half thought you were trolling because of the weird fixation on Astral Pulse vs Seven Stars but now I'm certain. This is my last reply
>>735061439there are lots of trash relics now, like "deal 6 damage to a random enemy after using 3 attacks in a single turn" (good on silent I guess), and some elites are ball-busting like the four eels. some others are a joke, though, it's kind of a crapshoot
>>735061439relics are noticeably weaker and no act 4 means you don't have to be crazy juiced to win the runin sts1 you needed all the power you could get because two bad draws against spear + shield and the heart could very well just fucking kill you. there's no fights in 2 that have that kind of threat
>>735061439the real reason is theres no need to, you don't need to fish for a decent relic to beat act 3 a10, probably will change on the game's full release
>>735061439because there's no act 4 primarilyelites are for scaling up, you fight elites when you need to get stronger and stay ahead of the curve. You should try to fight at least one or two elites in act 1 and maybe one in late act 2 because you likely need the rewards to beat hallway fights in act 3.You dodge elites when you can already beat everything you need to and just want to avoid unnecessary risk or burning resources like potionssince there's no act 4 if you can already beat the act 3 boss you have won the run if you can get there, which means dodge elites, rest at every fire, take the easiest possible path to the end of the act and then as long as you weren't wrong when you identified that you could beat the boss you win. If you find a Drop of Insanity or whatever its called at the start of act 2 and that lets you go infinite one time, you can beat the run if you just carry it to the end of act 3 so you have no need for relics and rare cards.In a vacuum elites are probably actually better than STS1, relics are slightly weaker on average maybe(probably not though, there were some real dogshit relics in STS1 and now it's basically just juzu bracelet which is at least better than it was in 1 because events are better in 2) but rare cards are often better, and you get like twice as much gold compared to a hallway fight as you did in 1. You just don't need to take the risks because you can get all you need to reliably win the run without it.
>>735061439The ancient powerups after each run are much more potent than the old rare relics you'd get.Also in general the ? events are stronger, so you're less incentivized to get relics from elites.You can still go for them if you have a broken build, but in general it's not as punishing as in StS1 if you dodge elites.
>>735061439big monter scawy rewad probably doodoo
>>735061628The difference is everything I listed can be played for value and is not future payoff. But go ahead and bleed hp like >>735060053 and lose your runs I guess.
hidden gem is going to get fucking nerfed holy shit
>>735059075More elites is actually good1 less potion is a big deal but you won't feel the effects until later ascensionsAscender's bane is the first one where you actually feel the difficulty spike, can cause a couple bricks per run which can actually cost you a significant amount of HP
>>735061912Defensive beast bros...?
the hunt + lava lamp is pretty silly but I ended up skipping most card rewards anyway because lol silentstill ended up with an almost fully upgraded deck
>>735061912Hidden gem is broken but it's probably fine that it's broken. It's not highly accessible and offers interesting gameplay. You're more likely to put together a low rarity infinite than you are to even see hidden gem on a run.
lets go gambling!
>>735062096He gets overshadowed by the eels but this guy sucks ass to fight 90% of the time
>>735062057also I think that Neow bonus is good if you want to farm elites and don't have a rest site before one but I think overall it's pretty badyou have to give up your neow bonus AND a relic in order to see 3 green cards, but-there's no guarantee you even want one of the rewards (although a very very strong chance you do)-there's no guarantee you want the upgraded version of the card reward-there's no guarantee you don't run into an upgrade event anyway-if you don't lose HP you just upgrade a starter card at your first fireYou might end up down two relics and up one relevant upgrade, which kind of sucksbut at the end of the day most Neow picks are just 'what helps me farm the best?' and sometimes it's that one
>>735062053>39/85 hp on A6Yeah, let's just fixate on needless overkill combos and ignore the cost
>>735058651ENTER
Why is this allowed? First balance patch can't come soon enough
>>735060201nonupeipe
REJOIN THAT YOU TWO, WE GOT STUCK SO I LEFT TO REENTERsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242923310089/76561198043831607
GG guys. Bit of a struggle, but it's more fun that way. Thanks for hosting.I swear I had draw in my deck, I don't know why a solid quarter of my hands bricked. t. Regent
>9-4 on reject>A9>lose 15 times in a rowthis shit is hard
>>735062517i was stuck on waiting for players screen man, so I left to rehost, get back in
DEFECT GET BACK IN, DON'T LET THE GAME KEK US RIGHT AFTER THAT SMOOTH ACT 3>get Fur Coat because other two options weren't worth me getting them this run>game gives us THREE ELITES at 1 HP back to back PLUS shop PLUS rests all in one linePure gold Act 3 man
>>735062578He's dead, Jim. RIP his multiplayer A:2
>>735062610It can't be... he was right there with us... He's gotta still be here in the thread, right?
>>735062526everything in this game pushes you to playing it on the knife's edge, getting used to the damage bump takes a while.
>>735062610>>735062494Fuck it, let's just do this and go
>>735062775One sec, I went to smoke
REANIMATE SHOULD NOT HAVE EXHAUST
>>735062793AH SHIT OKHosting againsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242923753047/76561198043831607
at a3 finally but i've savescummed every time so far. not so much that i build perfect freak lines knowing the rng beforehand but usually theres one guy i don't know how to play my bad deck against and i need to use a potion somewhere or change the strategy. TIL that 30+ card decks with one good attack and no card draw to cycle to it is garbage
>>735062830;_;Oh well. Thanks for hosting!
>>735062880>but i've savescummed every timewhat's even the point in playing the game
>>735062830>>735062903Wait will it not let us conclude the run without Defect there?
>>735062481do you have to unlock this boss or something? i have never seen him. its always queen or test subject.
psssthey kid, you want a sword?
>>735062934why is necrobinder getting cucked from jerking the sword
>>735062917Like I'm stuck in here. What the fuck do I do?
>>735062908learningi dont really care if i savescummed while climbing as long as i tried to learn something from and it saves me time grinding acensions and gets me closer to learning the "real" game. i don't care to have a legit win at every ascension, as long as eventually i get a legit win.
>>735062920He's the easiest one
>>735062960she is faithful to osty. NO ntr.
>>735062972Regent man? Were you not in there going in? What happened when I clicked Proceed? Am I just cucked out of this run win because Defect DC'd at the very end?
>necrobinder>neow gives the relic that does damage to enemies for every skill card played>deck turns into 0/1 cost skill cards and bunch of soul generationThat was fun
>>735062934this is me and my furry bros with test subject's cock
>>735063046Fuck it I'm going to bed. It was fun anyway despite the game and shit CHEATING ME at the very last possible second
Is Vantom the weakest boss? The act 1 statue elite scares me more with its constant 25 attacks every turn. I'm guessing the final stage tail will get buffed at some stage
>>735063106on higher ascensions if your card quality is poor hes an absolute menace. Steamrock is easier than him by a lot
>>735063106>180 hp>9 etherealstatue dies faster and doesn't get stronger as the fight goes on. i've had a power build tank statue for like 10 turns.
>have a nice little kingly kick combo going >take the three silent cards >get 0 cost draw card + deal double damage next turn >double damage kick, put it on top of the deck, draw it, double damage kick again
FUCK YOU!!! DIEEE!!! DIEEEEEE!!!!
>>735063106>Is Vantom the weakest boss?The kin might as well not even be a boss.
>>735063106weakest is the guy who sleeps imovantom starting with like 6 stacks of that pseudo intangible thing and doing like 45 with his big attack in act 1 requires you to have something decent going on and probably lots of health
>stars align>charge up a 200 damage sovereign blade>forgot about this>1 damageits genuinely never been more over
>>735063086Think he grows more when he revives?
>He took damage during his runYou didn't beat the game
>>735063160>doesn't get stronger as the fight goes onstatue does buff tho. i forget the pattern its like attack attack str up i think. you probably just don't realize if you never go in there without elite scaling and kill him fast enough.
>>735063445no she does not. 25 damage every turn until you or it dies.as i said, i did 10+ turns on my last defect run.
i feel like statue guy looks like he should be a higher tier boss and the bird looks like some starter rpg boss but the bird always fucks me up for like 30+ health no matter what
>need to block>dont get block>run ruinedno really, what am i missing with this game
>>735063508A runic pyramid.
>>735063508Get any blocks you come across. Doesn't matter what as long as it blocks and saves you.
>>735057485it's only good in a deck which can fill a hand with souls, plus points if are you are struggling to block.
coral guy has peak aesthetics. i really like how he just stands there perfectly still.
>>735063508get draw cards. it's the only way to guarantee you can get what you need
>>735057573>100% WR for good players on A10 silent will sometimes have a very shitty act 1 sometimes even with a good potion for an elite fight.>>7350590758, with 9 a slightly bigger one for act 1
>orbit>and genesis
>>735063445proof, it was *only* 9 turns actually.
>>735063026holy copiumyou can use the same rhetoric to cheat in anything
you need >attacks>blocks>draw>remove your starter cards>probably exhaust cards too>scaling and synergy>solutions to fucked up hallways like the evil gas with the bombs or whatever>do all this with random card rewards and no guarantee to build into any particular synergy or scaling solution>recognize which potions and paths will help cover up flaws in your deckthis game is too hard
>>735063861>solutions to fucked up hallways like the evil gas with the bombssilent problems. never had any issue with that hallway fight.
>>735063224kin can be rough though they are boring as a boss with no special mechanic. it's just an AoE or extra high single target damage check.
>>735063861It's deceptively complex and difficult for a mere card game
>>735063801oh no im cheating in the single player game while not competing for anything
I'm on A7 with Defect and I can only win when I build a claw deck, everything else feels too fragile or dependent on specific cards coming up in the right order. I wanna play voltaic too guys :(
>>735063991all the good players are saying claw is dogshit and you should just be building to spam frost orbs every time lol
>>735063991>>735063789power build is pretty easy, it's just stack block with a few power cards.
do you think Silent has the biggest dick because she's black
>>735063601i thought my ratios were fine but my last scuffed ass win in a8 was less than 1/3 block cards in total, so ill try being more vigilant about bumping that ratio up and maintaining it until developing better game sense
>>735063932Yes
>>735064070you have a porn addiction.
>>735064070No _Otsy_ easily has the biggest dick.
>>735063106Vantom > Fysh = Lagavulin >> Waterfall >>> Deer = Kin in my opinion.Both Deer and Kin are barely bosses, waterfall is only hard if you're slow or get unlucky with blocks when he blows up.Lagavulin lets you set up but quickly kills you with the -str/dex debuffs if you don't kill him quickly after.Fysh fills your deck with shit and regularly becomes intangible, so the longer you fight the harder it gets.Vantom has 9 shields you have to get through first before you can even start doing damage, and even then he will fill your deck with wounds while he himself is growing stronger and stronger. Because of the shields rushing him down is hard and because of the wounds it's likely you won't have a lot of blocks when his big hit comes in. He's the boss I die to the most.
>>735064156i only consume porn for like 20 minutes twice a week
>>735064192Then you have a porn deficiency. Go fix that, doctor's order.
>>735064192>constantly thinking about black dicksthen you're spending too much time on 4chan.
>>735063991orb builds can still be good but you will need to fish for good powers. I like a speculative subroutine if I have a good deck/potions. a good defect deck will almost always have some sort of status synergy with a compact or iteration, even if you are playing an orb centric deck. lastly make sure u have good blocks in turn 1 and 2, something like an anchor or a boot sequencet. finished A10 with a decent win rate
>>735064240Nah. He's just american.
I haven't seen Hellraiser in unironically 9 runs but it doesn't matter because this run I have every attack-spam ungabunga relic in the game
>enemy: sludge spinner: 0 damage>enemy: seapunk: 5 damage>enemy: corpse slugs: 0 damage>elite: 8 damage>elite: 9 damage>elite: 12 damage>floor 5 enemy: evil gas: 20 damage
silent is build for ironclad after 5 minutes she wouldn't be called silent any more
It's been nearly two weeks and these threads are still almost exclusively about gameplay. This game is something truly special and it's still only started early access.
>>735064324its kinda silly how easy some runs get when you just happen to get the right relicsespecially with your card builds usually being done by act 3, all you usually do in act 3 is end up with some busted relic that makes you win harder.
From my experience double storm on defect has been a free win almost every time. Power scaling on defects is out of control especially since 1 subroutine makes all 1 cost powers free
I love defect status builds, holy shit. It just WORKS. Everything just WORKS.
>>735064307You mean Indian
is this the most astroturfed game of all time
>>735064983no
>>735065050how astroturfed is it? it must be a lot
>>735063026By the time you get to the top, all instinct you'll have left in your bones is how to win by savescummingYou'll rationalize it too"well the game isn't really fair anyway I deserve to cheat back""why would I want to prove anything""It's just a videogame so I might as well just always win""I wouldn't have cheated but X""Not like I'm competing against anyone"Humans are exceptional at justifying their shortcomings and by the way you're already posting it doesn't sound like you've ever not shortchanged your own experience due to character flaws
>>735064983oops accidentally posted in the slay the spire thread instead of the expedition 33 thread
end of days does the kills before it applies doom right
>>735065102no
god damn it how is it already mondayi feel like time disappears when playing this gameI still have to farm A10 :(
>>735064331If you don't have any AoE by the time you hit the smoke monster you just have to accept the fact the game wants to fuck you.
help. I'm cursed. Or more likely retarded.
>>735065290you are retarded but that's okay, we all start retarded
>>735065095obsessed
>>735065363Just concerned, sisterIf you ever need a shoulder to cry on, I'm here...
How are you supposed to kill the Corpse Slugs without taking damage for your first encounter?
>>735065474size?
>>735057485not worth licking unless you have soul gen and unceasing top
>>735065496the first three act 1 combats are just guaranteed chip damage depending on your rng. sometimes you beat some fights clean other times you just can't do anything about it.
>>735056398>gives you the best rewards
>>735065496Two slugs is so simple it should be obvious.For three slugs it's actually a good idea to whittle down two slugs at a time, so that when you kill the first one you'll have a guaranteed easy kill on the second one next turn, and an opportunity to whittle down the third at the same time.
>>735065162its a 29 hp aoe then that also does 29 doom? seems wrong
>>735064983MegaCrit released the biggest game of 2026 so far without basically any advertising. Millions tried to purchase the game simultaneously and crashed the Steam store the moment it was available. This is purely goodwill reception anon.
>have an okay start>guaranteed to ramp>thief bug takes my only good fucking card (Whirlwind)>can't kill him because I don't have whirlwind>run is over right therefucking cancer
I actually made it work and it was strong as fuck. I legitimately thought the run was cooked when i transformed into this but it turns out i was cooking instead
>>735065737Don't hinge your entire run on 1 card.
>>735065724>trump and kushner paid for millions of bot accounts to buy the game as a way to launder money through MAGA Critfixed
>>735065772Don't give me only one usable early clearing card then
>>735065737>>735065767lmao this happened to me too. I used 3 freaking potions to get my bury back
we need act 4 NOW
>>735065701Yup it's pretty good
>>735065839We're not powerful enough... The Architect instantly slays us without even trying...
>>735065839>>735065914>Act 4 bosses are supremely nerfed constructs of the Ancients
>>735065839Not on the docket, sorry.
>>735065947>act 4 elite is the watcher
>>735057043My winrate with Necro is absolute ballsOnly consistent strategy is 1000000 souls and I find that boring too
>>735065947>act 4 boss is the tiny goblin that ejects from the mecha knight suit
ascension 3 and they are already doing the less gold shit jesus
The Act 4 boss is obviously going to be Blue Ironclad, retards.
>>735066097>he gets a new suit
>>735066097>>act 4 boss is (you)
>>735065701Time's Up and End of Days are supposed to be your finishers for Doom decks
>>735065102>>735065701It procs sequentially. So 29 Doom goes first then the kill trigger
>>735059129That's not what i said, i asked how is it different then two, what's the big change
necro is so fucking broken once it gets going
>>735065102Cards proc effects top to bottom. So if a card says apply 2 weak 2 vuln the 2 weak gets applied first and then the 2 vuln
>>735066245Is there any character that this DOESN'T apply to?
>>735066245thats every character in this game
Slay the Spire 3 when?
>>735056398she looks like a nortubel character
Anyone have the female regent mod?
>>735066072i think its fine for souls to always be a part of necro's game plan as the main way to draw cards and manipulate the deck. haunt should probably just do less damage or not exist though.
>>735066523man i wish this wasn't one of the worstt cards in the game
>he doesn't snap pick flatten and pick every otsy card
>>735066737yea i like to win my games
>>735065616I'm gonna PROOOOOMPT
>>735066895now add some futa loras
>>735066957I may be brown but I am not a faggot
>>735066973there's nothing gay about appreciating a girl with a cock
>>735066737Fat Osty takes too long to get ahead of enemy damage unless you get Dirge + Chemical X or Dirge + Replay, unless you're in multiplayer then do whatever
I keep seeing people struggle on Ironclad and I'm baffled. Defect or Regent I understand but man, it's the class with built in scaling, sustain and a ton of exhaust cards. I feel like there's an infinite available on every run
>>735067176because >>735058034
>>735067176I don't get it eitherIts not even the infinites unless you're just getting fucked runs with zero Pillage/Pommel Strikes/Shrugs until Act 3 like that one multiplayer run I got my ass dragged through
>>735067176i had plenty of Ironclad runs that couldnt get out of act 1 because of poor card quality. It is strong but only if you get playale cards. Tons of trash in the pool
Is this game good if I've never played the first game a friend is asking me to get it for multiplayer
>>735067326If you like deckbuilding roguelites this is the best one. If you don't then this won't appeal to you.
>>735067326I don't actually think the game is very good in its current state but it's good enough that if your friends are playing it you won't regret it
You know what they say about skeles with large hands...
>>735067431>balance on certain things is iffy therefore game is trash>a10 btwyou're a retard
>>735067348>>735067431Thanks anons. I haven't played a deckbuilder before but I like games like Isaac and Splatoon 3: Side Order, so I think I'll check it out.
>>735067431This is a deus ex machina in the current state of video games. Apologize to MegaCrit right now and buy another copy.
>>735067515The whole reason to play StS is that it's a very well tuned game in a genre that's filled with flashy explosive gimmicky titles where all your choices matter. StS2 is an early access title with a severe infinite problem and lop sided design issues. If you're only evaluating the game on its current state it only really offers multiplayer over any competitors that are already complete. I can like StS and believe that StS2 will get there eventually but anyone who thinks this is even a high tier game in genre in its testing state is blinded by the brand name. You can pick up Dawncaster right now for like a dollar or something and have a much better broken title.
>Realize combos and synergies are for idiots>Win every runDude the Reaper's basic bitch-ass cards do like 16-20 damage, no setup or bells or whistles.
Regent is getting gachafied...
>>735067527I mean... it's nothing like any of those games though.
>>735066202There should be a common card that does this, otherwise doom is just very bad poison that doesn't do damage per turn and doesn't kill until after they hit you.
>>735067830I did a doom run the other day and I don't get why it gets so much flak. Almost every doom card would be grossly overstated if you treated it like damage so you're going to be clearing a turn earlier a lot of the time anyways
>>735067515That isn't what he said at all. You made something up to get mad at and then had the audacity to call someone else a retard.
Why am I supposed to hate AI again? Are any human artists making lewds of her?
>>735067775whats crazy is that I look like that
>>735067920human artists only chase trends and focus on engagement hype because their are naturally narcissistic.
>>735067920umm... you for forgot the loras again, that's cringe
>>735067954You have a gpu nigger gen your own dick girls
>>735058743fat
>>735067660>>735067895>infinites are possible>infinites are mostly doable but only if you abuse the game a certain way and you are knowledgeable enough to do so>therefore game is badyou must be absolute retards to believe thisyou were also answering a question for a new player who will not do these things, so your answer is doubly retardedThe issues of the game arise when you get to higher ascension, but calling the game bad as a result of that is just being retarded
Is there anything more inconsistent than regent?
>>735067920>Why am I supposed to hate AI again?Same reason people hate deviantart tier artists. They churn out gross looking low quality slop that no one wants to see and then act like they're better than everyone because of it.
>>735067982because I'm a humble potatokin(irish) vpns are illegal here and civai is geoblocked
>>735067775Could be worseCould be shitty AIslop like in this thread
>>735068194The game is early access. Telling people to expect things to be unbalanced until the kinks are balanced out is basic common decency.You are a genuine retard who fancies himself as a genius.
>>735068216Regent is really badly designed. Simultaneously very inconsistent and weak as a consequence, but also prone to randomly trivializing the entire run by accident since he can power spike ridiculously hard
>>735068230weird, you'd think Ireland would embrace your gay desires>>735068220Show me one human artist producing chubby green alien lewds on par or better than the slop I generated
>>735056836For me, it's Orobas. He cute and gives some cool ass shit.
>>735068319Anon, 80% of 4chan is AI. The whole site, not just this thread or board. Even the shit you don't think is AI, it's AI.
>>735068320Walking the goalpost back I seeYou first said the game was not good and wanted to post your gay eceleb opinion about muh infinites.The game is clearly unbalanced and A10 is a painful shitshow but that is not what you were doing and why I called you out, faggot.
>>735068426>Game isn't very good but it's good enough that you won't regret it = game is trash
>>735067798I meant as in, I enjoy rougelites so it's worth trying out a different genre of them
>"I don't like this game"Normal response:>Don't play it then/v/ response>REEEEEEEEEE
I can't get past Act 1 on A9 as Silent.
>>735059161>The Witch in Act 2 has way worse rewards on averageWhat's the point of picking the relic that locks you in a single path?
>>735068508Are you eating the egg?
>>735057485enables easy infinites1 capture soul 1 borrowed time and any attack just wins
>>735068518It's an optimal path with 2 elites 2 enemies a shop and a campfire after every combat.
>>735068508Stop fighting so many elites.
>>7350685943 normal enemies*4 events too
>>735068426>You first said the game was not goodWasn't me. I'm genuinely loving Sts2 despite the early jank. I'm just calling you out for being a retard who cries about arguments that you made up in your head.
>>735068518It's an easier path, has 2 extra floors (extra shop + campfire), and the event distribution is way better
>>735068647This other cocksucking retard has been posting about his eceleb opinions about infinites for threads now so that's why I answered this way
I don't get the Binder. Osty seems useless to build up since he dies after two trns usually, and Doom always fucks me over because it procs at the turn end so they still get a hit in. Am I just missing the cards for a decent kit early on if I don't get the epoch?
>>735068701I'm pretty sure the reason you answered this way is because you're an obsessed moron with a chip on your shoulder, looking for reasons to argue even if you have to make them up.
>>735068724no? she's very consistent. pretty sure ethereal is the only locked behind achetype and it's probably her worst one.she's slow and defensive. focus less on hitting and more on building up block / summon / doom.
>>735068535Haven't seen it in ages. But I'd hatch it if I'm healthy.
>>735067830doom is bad damage not bad poison
>>735068701Do you not think infinites are an issue and that it's somehow an uncommon opinion that only A10 grinding YouTubers have? Completely new players are running into infinites by accident constantly in the current build because they saw Hellraiser and wanted a shiny
>>735059016Necessary evil for what you dumb retard? It's a solo game the spire isn't going to feem like shit that I infinited it
>>735068909you're just picking up the wrong doom cards
>>735056398Stop sexualizing her guys what would Anita Sarkeesian think?
>>735068956Balance. Single player games still need balance.
>>735068995balance exists to serve fun
>>735068968I wish this would show up more than once in my doom runs.
>>735069016So does challenge
In the middle of a Silent run with Accuracy/Cloak & Dagger/Knife Trap synergy. Please let this be my first win, this build is so funny.
>>735069016Challenge is fun. A singular meta build that lets you win every time is boring and stale.
>>735069018you don't need more than once, graveyard manipulation and replay are more than enough. it's not a card you want too many copies of anyways as you want to use other shit to build up your doom first.
The problem with infinites isn't that they're powerful. God runs will exist no matter what and that's part of the fun, there's no need to nerf infinites as a concept. The problem right now is that infinites are far too accessible. People are hitting them by accident because why the fuck wouldn't you run draw and discard on silent or star gen and draw on regent.A ton of infinites are accessed simply by playing the game well. You pick up good cards and then later on you convert into an infinite. They should be something available on lucky runs or something you plan for because you identified the opportunity. The balancing issue isn't that they're good, it's that they're free.
>>735069139This is a fair take.
>>735068758This guys legit has been doing this the entire week and will eventually post xeets nobody cares about>>735068926>source: my favorite eceleb said so!hellraiser is not even a strong build you fucking retard
>>735068970>what would Anita Sarkeesian think"I'm gonna marry myself, that'll show those mysogynists".
Is strength stacking with the clad even possible? I don't think I got it above, like, 10.
So...have you lads actually passed on your feedback to the devs?
>>735069139The real problem is that the game is practically unbeatable without infinites. Basically every mob in the game>gives itself 2 strength every few turns>scales their attacks from annoying, to painful, to rape, then buffs, repeat>probably reduces your block before their biggest rape attackRealistically the monsters in this game are designed to be beaten in 3 - 4 turns or else you will be permanently on the back foot. The only solution that in a game where you can easily get bricked by having the counter cards on the bottom of your deck is card draw and deck manipulation. The real way to remove the value of infinites is to give people an alternative. Because right now you get punished for 'playing fair'And for the record, when I say infinites I don't mean literally infinite 0 cost playing cards 9999 times in a turn and killing the enemy from full to 0. I mean just drawing your deck multiple times over and abusing the same key cards. The former is still super rare to reach and that's ok. The latter is the basic gameplay loop as long as shops are at a max of like 5 - 6 per run with scaling card removal costs
>>735069316Dominate and some Molten Fists got me up to over 90, but it's still kind of ass to pull off.
>>735069316Self-damage build with the card that gives you 2 strength per time you take HP damage. I got myself to like 40 strength and was swinging basic strikes for around 50
>>735068819I've tried to build up Summon but he he dies then you have to do all that shit again. It just feels like a bad block most of the time.
>>735069316Only possible with multiple molten fists in the deck. Strength is honestly way too hard to get now compared to before.
>>735069346>the game is practically unbeatable without infiniteswhat level of shittery are you on to genuinely believe this kekMost of my wins on A10 are with "good enough" decks, nowhere close to an infinite>I mean just drawing your deck multiple times over and abusing the same key cardsThat's not an infinite you fucking retard and you know it.Most decks rely on you being reliably able to get to your win condition regardless of what that is.STS1 was even more retarded on that front btw but you have very selective memory it seems.
>>735069410In this game you go infinite instead.
>>735069316Yes
>>735069346I don't know why the devs decided to punish slow decks so hard here. Even if nothing gained strength over a fight, there are so many enemies with a damage check mechanic. Like they don't turn on for multiple turns or punish you for turtling with active status. It's not like defensive play would even be desirable over aggressive play even if it were equally strong since it would take longer
>>735069486you can play defensive decks just fine, you just need a win condition that doesn't take 50 turns to ramp up.
>>735057043Defect bricks like a motherfucker if you don't get claws. Insanely inconsistent imo.
>>735069469Nigger as someone at A10 with 4 different characters you're a fucking faggot. I say infinites because even in your original post I replied to that's basically what you were fucking talking about>ooooh infinities are SO EASY to get for just playing wellFuck off they aren't cunt. The closest thing you have to "true" infinites is Ironclad with Stoke and a fuckton of energy gen and Necro faggotry if they manage to get a -1 cost on their recycles. If your argument was about true infinites then I'll call you a complete fucking retard whose entire gameplay is to fish for infinites every match acting like they're a natural thing. I've gotten a true infinite in a single run because I don't play like a cheesy faggot choosing 5 cards per run while acting like that's a natural way to play.The only way any of the shit you said is reality is if you were talking about infinite that are close-enough where you loop your deck a few times per turn to drop your main card. Other than that I'll call you a confirmation bias faggot trying to justify breaking the game as if it's some totes okay gameplay mechanic that everyone totally uses. That's why I wrote that caveat there just in case you were actually retarded enough to believe it
>>735068819what do you mean, her ethereal cards are great and don't require making it an archetype
>>735057289He basically is doubly dependent on drawing things in the right order, his base deck also sucks ass compared to other classes
I thought Void Form would be a trap but man does that thing carry you. I didn't realize it also makes the star cost free.
>>735069704Void Form is ridiculously broken. It can trivialize a regent run that's absolute dogshit and just end up making it totally free
>Knife trap builds
>>735069604Maybe not on other characters but for Ironclad I probably go infinite in half his runs. Too many ways to get draw and energy in his common pool. Once you add exhaust it's not that hard.
>>735069704Every time I pick Void Form I get folded. The 3 cost and turn end means I just lose half my hp at the start of a fight when I draw it or I simply never get to play it because every enemy hits so hard. The few times I get it off it's massive, but I can only say it carried me when I managed to get it off for free or something. Otherwise it just sits there in my hand as a -1 each turn taunting me
>>735069812you just need the right synergies. also pick up 0 cost block cards to be able to play it.
>>735069604why did you reply to me, I am of the same opinion as you lolalso I keep telling you this, the "muh infinites" guy basically got his opinion from an eceleb and has been posting this shit ever since
Silent on A0-18 were easy mode, now let's see how A9 is (and A10)
>>735069807You could by abusing Stoke and energy gen as I said, yes. But the original post was acting like it's a natural reward for every character and for just playing well, when in reality it's a hyperspecific gameplan that relies on basically 3 cards every run. At that point there's no point acting like infinites are a normal thing when it's just a single combo on a single character being abused because all his other choices suck donkey dick as they rely on pulling Hellraiser or Barricade, and if you invest in either then pull the other your run is bricked (though in reality you're more likely to get neither across 5 runs)>>735069881Because if you had the same opinion you speedran my original post looking to argue and attack me and deserved to be called a faggot regardless, because I said the same thing in both posts. So I assume you were arguing the contrary
>pick two lightning rods thinking playing them both will give me 2 lightning orbs next turn>nope lol actually it means the next 4 turns you get 1 lightningFucking why.
>>735069971That's actually kind of dumb, and you should unironically tell them to change it.
>>735069807>character has Stoke which is obviously broken>"Infinites are everywhere!!!!"as I said, you are a retard>>735069951I looked to argue because of the anon you are replying to right now and thought you were also sharing that opinion. Regardless we both agree in the end so that's all that matters to me.
Worst event?For me it's the tea faggot.The bridge can hurt you worse but you know it's supposed to be a bad event so you just deal with it.Here you're getting extorted for worthless garbage that you probably won't even notice when you get it, or get a minor punishment that you won't notice either. What a waste of a floor.
>>735069812Just get Orobas' 2 free energy innate card bro.
>>735070096I haven't seen him much but that's still way better than the bridge or when you get a trial where both options put guilt in your deckTea guy is basically "next fight is shit" or "next fight is good". If you don't have an important fight coming up, choose the leave option. If you do, just pay 50 to increase your win chance
>>735070156Thanks bro I'll just godroll my godrolls
>>735070191Don't forget to roll a Seven Stars while you're at it.
>>735070161I actually had a trial without a curse, so it looks the options are randomized.
>>735070232Yeah you can definitely get good outcomes, I was just talking about the times where it fucks you both ways. I'll always take tea over that
>40 dmg in one turn
>>735070021You don't really need Stoke, you just get the commons you need early and then add exhaust like Fiend Fire, Feel No Pain, etc. Seriously after you start trying to do it you realise it's not even that hard, all you need is like two things that draw and maybe energy. Fuck I did it once using one copy of Spite and Juggling.
>>735070161>remove the key card from your deck or lose 3hp>-3hp>remove the key card from your deck or lose 3hp>-3hp>remove the key card from your deck or lose 3hp>-3hp>remove the key card from your deck or lose 3hp>-3hp
>>735069704StS2 has so many fucking passive tools to help players push "big commitment setup turns" that even Demon Form is playable, when the only play of that type you could reliably commit to on sts1 was echo form because defect could hide behind 100 frost orbs.Turn 1 anal rape has been dialed back as well.
>>735070302>Remove a strik-I love bridges :^]
>>735069774The funniest thing about Knife Trap is that you don't even need it to win with Shivs. It's such overkill.
How did this game pop off so hard?I'm not saying it's good or bad but I just don't understand how a game like this could be mainstream.
>>735070324If you can get Void Form first turn in the few fights where they don't start punching you for 15+ turn 1, you're just getting super lucky. I basically never have Void Form starting hand except when it's unplayable
>>735070372astroterfingmega crit are in the pocket of jared kushner and donald trump, should call them maga crit
>>735070161>trial where both options put guilt in your deckThis caused me my first loss when I had the relic that doubled card rewards. I got some other mandatory curse event before it as well and ended up with 4 non exhausting unremovable curses and no exhaust options in my deck.
>>735070372I have nothing else to play and it has 5 classes to choose from so it's keeping me interested for now. I got bored of StS1 so fast
>>735070372It has the goodwill of the first game behind it, like how Hollow Knight set up Silksong. Also it's fun.
>>735070372Shit loads of people play STS1 on their phone so massive install base and it runs on potato pcs.
>>735070372Did you miss the part where the first game was a huge hit that started a genre and was getting regular twitch airtime up until the release of the sequel?
>>735070372Because it's good. Doesn't appeal to everyone but it really hooks the people that it does and turns a lot of us into fanatics. I like the game so much I've tried to get everyone I can to play it. It has a really addictive skinner box system that feeds you dopamine on a level as intense as gachashit but without trying to monetize or take advantage of you. You just pay the base price and get everything.
>>735070269did you complain about gremlin wizard too?
>>735070382I try my absolute hardest to never have more than 25 cards when playing regent so that's not a tough ask on act 3, especially when many of his good blocking options are 0 cost allowing you to cash in 10, 17 or however much block while playing void form.That's not taking into account boons that give you passive blocking, that reduce incoming damage, blocking relics, relics that generate block when you don't attack or play a power, etc.Not implying that "heh just have it on turn 1 bozo" is any kind of meta whatsoever. What I meant to say is that the biggest issue of these types of cards on StS1 was that turn 1 burst damage was so fucking insane that getting hit by 30 damage with no means to defend on your third fight of act 2 made these types of cards almost unplayable, and if you drew them on your starting hand you wanted to kill yourself. That's less often the case here, as the pool of tools offered to the player help cover this play pattern.Of course it depends on your build and whatever the fuck, all comments are context dependant.
Explain why the fuck they think Toasty Mittens is worth jack shitEven on a 50 card deck, I wouldn't pick that garbage.
>>735070743It's niche but used for decks like exhaust Ironclad or with Regent. Things like Headbutt/the regent block card, or the cards that draw multiple and put 1 on top of your deck. You're basically exhausting cards you don't want in exchange for 1 strength. Or for Ironclad cards where you do more damage based on the number of exhausted cards, just make sure it's never the one getting exhaustedIt's not good but it does have a use case. It's like the Tyranny power Regent has, draw 1 per turn and exhaust. Similar idea, thins your deck, different payoff
>>735070743it's a free demon form, what's not to understandIt's for pile of goodstuff deck without a key combo. Which sometimes happens at the end of act 1.
>>735070743Play 10 angers and pillages and go brrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm
>>735070963I wish Ironclad had access to Tyranny. Drum of Battle sucks fucking eggs in comparison.
>>735070963I understand that you just wanted to make an analogy there but Tyranny is so many orders of magnitude better than mittens they're not even part of the same galaxy.
>>735070963Headbutt is the logical usage, but even then: you're pulling trash you don't want from discard (which means the worst has passed already by drawing it) rather than just pulling something you need to play againThis level of niche is a bad thing considering near every other boss relic is run-shifting
>>735067513Osty, crush his skull
>>735071109>>735071116The game isn't balanced well, yesAll of Halloween man's rewards are utter dogshit. He's the dedicated jobber ancient whose only purpose is to 'fix' bad starts. Wax Relics are temporary, Soot is a thinning deck bricker, 4 energy turn 1 is good but it's also his only good choice and is a joke compared to the average reward other ancients give, etc
>>735057485Intangible is insane, exhausting can be good. I've only played sts1 so can't say how hard filling your hand on that character is.
>>735071238Soot actually cost me a run once, and I never looked at that fucker the same way again.
>>735070372Didn't the first game inspire a whole genre that retroactively redefine the whole indie scene for the following decade?What did you think would happen when the sequel to something like that comes out?
>>735071238Soot gets rid of my shitty cards and gives me Exhaust fodder for Ironclad, and Status fodder for Defect.
>>735071332By that logic you can also just exhaust the cards you would've thinned and picked another of his choices
>>735071238Wax relics are actually really strong.Brightest flame is super broken.4 targetted upgrades can be pretty alright and are, on average, better than 6 random upgrades.Hot cocoa can be good.The path is alright.I've seen worse, if you're playing ironclad I'd rather get toasty mittens than some of the absolute dogshit you can get like upgrading your bash.
>>735071348Soot only shows up after you shuffle for the first time, which means your starting hand is less likely to get bricked, which is incredibly important.
Bash should be 1 energy, 5 damage 1 vulnerable
>>735071238brightest flame is actually his best reward. The max hp cost is pretty negligible unless you always slam it every time it's in your hand when the fight's already over.
>>735071352>upgrading your bash is badBro? It's 25 damage with 7 vuln for the same cost. I don't even want to click bash usually. Upgraded bash is an entire archetype enabler
>>735071394It's a starter card, it's supposed to be shit. DON'T look at Necrobinder.
>you will never boss swap into snecko or pbox again
>>735071418Silent's are also really good cards.
>>735071409It's amazing that you said that and uppercut+ is still better.
>>735071404Max hp is way too important at A10. The entire meta is defined by max hp and rest relics because of how much unavoidable damage you take. Unironically I'd take literally anything else over Brightest Flame even if it's theoretically strong. Either you use as you're meant to use it and it rapes you or you just -1ed every hand you draw it in, potentially taking damage against everything other than the elites or boss you burn it on, that you wouldn't with any other card
>>735071470Pick the options that scale with vuln once and you'll see how nuts it can be. Also it upgrades a card you already had instead of now having to deal with both Bash and Uppercut bricking your hands
>>735071461Which is punished by having extra number of starter cards.
Living Fog is probably the most toxic piece of shit enemy in the entire game holy SHIT
Fuck card RNG, that hardly matters, what really matters is when the game gives you 5 insanely hard encounters in a row in Act 1.
>no dual wield>no limit break>no entrench>no catalystWhy do the devs hate scaling?
>>735071916dual wield and entrench are in the game, but they're really hard to get.
>>735071916I will die on the hill that Reaper is the worst loss Clad had to go through.Just imagine how much better he would be right now with Reaper, especially when you look at the amount of bullshit AoE encounters this game has.
>>735071916They learned that "double <permanent resource>" is a dangerous thing to print on a card.
>>735072012I don't understand how the self-harm build is supposed to work now. Are you supposed to rest at every fire?Any offering past the first one is just prolonged suicide now.
First-ever A10 run, and I won it with a fucking Anger deck for some reason.
>>735071916Juggling is a funnier version of Dual Wield.Also fuck Catalyst that card was gayer than sucking dick.
>>735072071anger was always guddogood job
>>735056398the diadem is very good, you can get away with a lot when you always have the option of blocking for half every turn
>>735072076Can you juggle powers?
>>735072178nope
>>735071783Silent sisters, we need to lobby for him and Hunter Killer to be nerfed
>>735072062I've made it work once or twice, one of the runs I had a tent which allowed me to basically make it a less big deal than it was. It's actually not too bad of an archetype provided you don't go overboard with it.>>735072206At least with Hunter Killer you've had the chance to make a deck to prepare for the fucker. Living Fog being a hallway fight in Act 1 is fucking retarded
>Pearl could let me get out Demon Form easily, only big cost I have right now>healing 12 while I have Feed would let me stall for that max hp increase easily plus good sustain>the cards for Silent are mostly Shiv but without Accuracy, Acrobatics+Abrasive could be nice though
>>735072291Silent gets you card draw and potentially Adrenaline, but Radiant to help you spam Pommels or force out Demon Form would probably be better. Black Blood is nice when doing self damage, but it's just kind of the safe option otherwise.
>>735072291For some reason everytime I've picked Venom Glass I've ended up with an absurdly broken run, but that's because I like gambling. Luminesce probably the better option if you have a somewhat working deck already.
>>735071238I got the Mauls from it and they scaled stupidly good.
>>735072291Why is a fucking eyestalk so moe?
>>735072554Maul isn't from halloween guy
>>735072620You're right I dun goofed.
cards that look like absolute shit but secretly carry your run: clad edition
>>735072748Feels weird to see mtg cards in StS.
>>735072748What it doesn't say is that it un-exhausts on play so then you have to get rid of it again in order for it to be useful.
I tried Jackpot Necrobinder and its just so fucking good bro. Production Graveblast and Dredge led to me casting like 2-5 jackpots per combat. Super fun and super good
>>735072748>doesn't stay in exhaust pile Nah it's shit.
multiplayer?steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242946191254/76561198149672785
>>7350745253/4
I did it! Even beat that bastard Time Eater. Now to learn Defect, I think. I still don't really feel prepared for Heart runs.
Good luck hitting me, I'm behind 9000 buffers
>>735075202I love these lil niggas like you wouldn't believe
>>735074770If you didn't have a shiv deck it's not a true time eater win
>>735074525>Connection timed out
>>735075415rejoin:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242946191254/76561198149672785
>>735075312I almost beat him with another Wrist Blade shiv run last night, I had insane damage, like +30 Shivs but the set-up was too long and my defenses were too weak so I bled out one turn before I was ready to blow him up.
someone make a new thread
>>735075441I'm getting "The game no longer exists"
>>735075523I restarted the game, try again,steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242949006892/76561198149672785
>>735075273Why does the "gain 3 block" enchant have the spirit poop icon?
>>735075517Be sure to put silent lewds in the OP.
>>735075523Did you DC again?
>>735075759Yeah, I don't know what's going on. My internet is good.
>>735075523rejoin:Defect check internet connectionsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242949884038/76561198149672785
>>735075832Damn I guess I'll try another day I keep DCing like this, sorry about the run guys.
If anyone else is up for multiplayer:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242949884038/76561198149672785
>>735075952It happens. GG
