$3.4 billion studio purchase$200+ million game800 devs in seattle USA1.2 million copies sold, lost 49.7% of players in 18 days.it's OVER.
>even if the game underneath the surface is a masterwork of design
There it is. That's a RIPBOZO right there
Why does /v/ want Marathon to fail this badly?
You just have to sell each game for $900
>>735637959I swear these journofags get paid by snoy and trangie to post positiv about this game
>>735637959Fake news, they didn't post thank you note for blasthavers
>>735638259cause bungie doesn't deserve to live, hopefully bankruptcy soon
>>735638304Or get each person who bought it to spend an additional $1,000 on micro transactions.
STOPTHEY'RE ALREADY DEAAAD
Lol, press S to spit. Bungie has been dead for a long time. The company that made Halo 3 and Reach only shares the same name as whatever the hell this new studio is.
>>735637959two more weeks?
Will be interesting how long pc keeps it in the top 10
>>735637959For reference, Halo 3 had already sold 3.7million copies by now. Bungie is going backwards, not forwards in revenue. It's so fucking over.
>>735637959>the game underneath the surface is a masterwork of designwhy are journos caping up so hard for bungie and going out of their way to add bullshit caveats like this to any negative article?
>>735638259Lot of shiteaters who can't get over halo (or destiny) and simple minded trolls jumping onto the bandwagon.
>>735637959>800k on steam aloneI thought PC lardlads were the minority? Sonybros????
>>735637959Who the fuck is Alinea Analytics?
>>735637959it's alright They can make their money back by selling all the cool and exciting cosmetics to existing players
>>735637959>1.2 million copies soldAmazing news if true. Well, for Bungie and people playing the game, at least.
>trusting bungie after how they ran destiny into the grave>removing content idiots paid for>deliberately cutting down updates to spread them out over a longer time frame just to string these suckers along>abandoning the game when the execs were offered a golden parachute by SonyEveryone who was scammed deserved it. The writing was on the wall for the past 5 years. Die i guess LAMO
>>735638259I dontI just dont care
>>735638739>visual diarrhea
>>735637959BLAST havers told me it was atleast 2 million, were they lying?
so if we go by sales and the player count on steam theres only 70k players or less across all platforms at at timein the entire fucking world
>>735637959Why do retards keep pretending marathon was supposed to make the billions sony spent on bungie when they bought them like 3 years and 4 destiny expansions ago? Also holy shit destiny 2 only got 4 expansions in 3 years KEK
>>735637959Oh so that's why the first thing they released post Cryo weekend wasn't more content but a $20 skin
>>735638259what do you mean "want" this shit failed hard, factually
>>735638259i hate greedy aaa live service slop
>>735637959hahahahaha>about 50000 daily high / 800000 reported sales = 6.25% players still playing at daily high>217000 ps5 purchases * 6.25% = about 13563 players still playing>133000 xbox purchases *6.25% = about 8313 players still playing>50000 + 13563 + 8313 = 71876so assuming the numbers are accurate across the board, we're looking at less than 72k concurrent players a day at peak playercount times
>>735637959Hate microshit as much as you want, but that era was bungie's golden age.
>>735638739Faggot ass artists ripping off the evangelion font
>>735638706So when a dev has had failures with their recent games, fucked their last player base over with micro transactions/content, shoot themselves in the foot with marketing and then have mostly negative publicity leading up to their new launch, your first reaction is to just be hyped and support their newest game? You sound like a cuck with no standards if you ask me. Just looking for the next high at any cost with your discord buddies.
>>735638259>Why is /v/ pointing at laughing at the objective reality that Maratroon flopped I dunno tranny why do people stop to see train wrecks?
>>735638259It's funnier that way.
>>735638760See>>735638670Not good at all.
>>735638259I want to play good games instead of this kind of slop. Somebody release Eve Online 2 already.
>just remembered it's 1.2 million at 40 dollars a copy not 1.2 million at 60 dollars a copyNeither is good but oh boy
>>735638858When will the FBI put an end to this economic terrorist? Devs are metaphorically DYING
reminder they're not even going to see a good chunk of that revenue either from steam and xbox the situation is even more dire than that article makes it seem
>>735638739>20€ for a red recolor
>>735638739what players?
>>735638739It really DO be a Designer's Republic (tm) out there huh
I did this. and I won't stop.
stop posting images from alinea analytics, they don't know nothinga game with a peak of 88k players i really doubt it sold 800k copies, probably just 500k or 600k
SMOKIN THAT MARAFLOP PACK
>>735639206the 1m players that will have to spend $200 each for them to make a profit
>>735637959>1,200,000 copies>800,000 copies on Steam>max Steam players: 88000Are they lying about sales number?
Why is the game not free? Infinite is free
>>735638259Why do journalists want Marathon to succeed so badly, all the while they want Crimson Desert to fail?Really rattles my noggin
>gookslop dessert sells 3m in a couple days>4 billion dollar company can barely sell 1m in a couple weekslel
>>735639143>It's only made 50 million dollars. Only a quarter of the budged in the first month of this live service game!
reminder: no refunds
>>735639438...is this famous american education?Amazing
>Steam all time peak was 88,337>Playstation and Xbox sales were so abysmal that Marathon didn't even break into the Top 5 sellers for each system that month>Faggot says they have 1.2M sales worldwideReally doubt that
I told people this was a shit purchase but Pepperidge Snoy is only allowed to be right in hindsight.
>>735639034on the low end and using the same calculations, we're looking at 1.72% of players at the daily lows totaling 19746 concurrent players
>>735639493Both games will be forgotten and perceived as failures..Pearl Abyss thought they had Zelda, RDR or The Witcher type success on their hands with CD.
Ok, we've got even more data to analyze. To keep it brief, I predict that in 50 days the game will stabilize at around a 20,000 CCU daily average.To get a bit more in depth, these weekend bumps are actually doing something to extend the lifespan of the game. Each weekend extends the time to reach 0 players by about 10 days, if these trends continue then we can extend the decline in players towards day 70. Again, I don' think it'll actually hit a CCU of zero, but the trend is a consistent decline in players.
>>735638595Fortnite getting that much engagement yet is still struggling. And this is a game that's a cultural juggernaut. How can smaller games survive if even Fortnite is laying off huge swaths of employees?
>>735639475because bungie is full of troons
>>735638259bad games should fail
>>735638259All live service games failing would be a good thing for gaming
>>735639502a live service game with only 6.25% of sales still playing it on the daily highs dipping all the way down to 1.72% of sales playing at the daily lows
>>735639626I dont doubt it, but I also dont doubt that a ton of those sales resulted in refunds. And even in the off chance that every one of those people kept the game1. Thats still not a good number2. Judging by the player counts none of those people are actually playing the fucking thing so the MTX revenue they're expecting is going to be absolutely nothing
>>735639626What do you think the sales would have to be for them to do a thank you announcement on Twitter?
>>735638820why is there no game where you can turn into a dinosaur? why is the video games industry so fucking gay and retarded?
>>735637959>third party estimatesIf they had sold a million they would have announced it already. My estimate is around 800k and I'm confident my estimate is more accurate than those retards in your screenshot
>>735637959>a masterwork of designI don't have the meme of the guy in the wetsuit with random bullshit pasted onto him but imagine I did, and that I posted it
>>735639618The sales number is suspiciously low if only 11% of buyers played the game at the same time during its (short lived) peak.
>>735637959>estimates
>>735639765You are delusional if you think CD will ever be considered a failure with how many copies it sold
>>7356398861 million is the standard
>>735639475>>735639810Marathon and Crimson Dessert have the same metacritic almost retards. They're both mid slop at best
>>735637959This is especially grim when you consider the game is only $40.
>>735638259AAA gaming needs to crash with no survivors.
>>735639912lol@pic
>>735639158Dont forget the 30% cut from steam, xbox, or store
>>735638259It may not be Concord 3 but its another shitty live service slop.
>>735638259Company full of niggerfaggottroons, I love to see them crash and burn
>>735639626What? anon, 1.2 million for a game with that budget is CATASTROPHIC.
why havent they said they sold 1.2 million then? they had no issues doing it when destiny 2 launchedin reality, they still havent sold one million, atmost 750k
>>735639778You're not accounting for the release of the "antecipated" Cryo Archive last weekend.It was the big endgame that reviewers were holding up their final grades for. It was probably responsible for that small bump upwards.
>>735638259Shooter slop GaaS games need to fucking die out already. There is hardly a more saturated genre and they all stink to high heaven. If the AAA industry can't fucking innovate then they deserve to die.
>>735639929I guarantee we'll never hearnabout it breaking 4 million copies or it will be a 10 months to a year when we do. RE9 sold 5 million in a week. It's at 6 now and we haven't heard a peep out of them since. So we can assume sales have stagnated hard. Unlike Crimson Desert, RE9 actually has good word of mouth helping it's legs out. It's over shill.
>>735640076I know, I'm just saying that I think it sold even LESS
They were long dead before this flop
>>7356399461 million seems a little low for a game like this, they probably wanted a 5 million number.
>>735637959You forgot the extra $204 millions loss by bungie before the even shipped marathon.
>>735639954>metacriticresetera is that way fag
>>735639917Compared to? AFAIK, the numbers we have from other games are like 15-20%
>>735639917Absolute retard, this is not how itworksSilksong concurrent peak is 580k, it sold 10m+ on Steam alone. That's ~5%Similar number apply to other game. Concurrent peak != total purchases/owners
>>735638737Alina Li anal vids
>>735640139I have no idea what you're talking about since I don't follow fucking sales numbers for shitI did buy RE9 though, I'll be getting CD on discount because it looks cool tooVideo game enjoyers won BIGLY with both games
>>735639778Neat
>they also spent millions on indian shills and streamers after the fact ahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>735640105It's in there, but they can't do a new map every single weekend. It's interesting though, this weekly content drop is what Concord was going to do with its cutscenes.
>>735640189You're the one that brought up critic's homo. They're both getting the same crtics score.
>>735637959>only 1.2M>playerbase is steadily decliningIt is so over, slopbros
Caring about player count or video game sales is actually a type of mental illness. Like I just can’t imagine. Bungee is doing better than ever recorded and is bringing in record profits, their ceo currently has 8 children and 3 boats and 12 cars.
>>735640257Which means that the game now doesn't have anything to keep its declining playerbase engaged.So expect a bigger drop in the coming weeks.
>>735637959Holy fucking shit, you are not an investor just fucking play video games that you like or move to /biz/ or even better /pol/, just fuck over already you fucking leeches. I'll put the word in all tabs and hope you get a permanent vacation,you animal
>>735639796Unsustainable industry practices.Spending ridiculous amounts of money, hiring hundreds of employees, they are basically banking that every single game they release is the best selling game of all time otherwise its a loss.And I think the execs know this and don't care. they'd rather spend all that every single time and have devs collapse and people lose their job, and then try again and again, if it means that one of those times it makes them a boatload of money
>>735639316Eh the average on steamdb between the three trackers shows pretty much ~850k copies on Steam so that seems right
>>735640203>Silksong concurrent peak is 580k, it sold 10m+ on Steam aloneWhat the fuck?Do people just buy games and don't play them?
>>735640239>I'll be getting CD on discountThanks for proving me right. The game disappointed. Just like Marathon.
>(((maintenance)))>playerbase hovers around 2-3k despite it being (((down)))when did you realize the actual playerbase for marathon on steam is max 4k if we're generous and their so called (((maintenance))) is the chinese bot farm server crashingyes, I actually unironically believe they are paying to have over 50k bots in-game to make it look like it's still alive to investors
>>735640269>>735640334Chill, we're just having a blast
>>735639908>>735640101>why havent they said they sold 1.2 million then?because even 1.2 million is really fucking bad for a studio like bungie, everyone knows it. Fans already began coping that the game had sold 2 million copies so at that point it's better to just say nothing at all.
>>735640334Who says I'm not? Why are you so upset?
>>735640360lmao sure, enjoy the victory king!
>>735638259I want the billion dollar Jew invested tranny corp to fail
>>735638259Because it's not Marathon.
>>735640361Is it schizoposting hours already?
>>735639316>don't know nothingSo they know something.
>>735640105I like the game a lot, but the cryo archive seems like a mistake. The game is kind of lite on maps so the idea of the first post release content being even close to the obtuse nature of a destiny raid is such a bad idea for an extraction shooter. Not only is it intimidating for casual players, but it's also fucking time gated. I don't even play on weekends so fuck me I guessArc Raiders has not handled its post release well either, but Stella Montis is a much cooler addition that more of the playerbase can enjoy. Bungie wants so bad to do MMO stuff it's kind of pathetic. And the long form progression of an MMO is like the antithesis of an extraction shooter with 3 month wipes
>>735638259bungie
>>735639082Bungie will live in your head forever. All you can do is project your former drone like actions onto me. I have never played a bungie game to begin with because I'm not a shiteating retard. (You), on the other hand, are a massive faggot fueled by impotent rage at bungie. Bungie apparently bent you over and fucked you raw for years and all you can do about is wish for their demise. Halo was always shit, destiny was always shit, marathon was always shit. I never would have heard about marathon without /v/ because I have good taste, I am a trve gaymer and you are a former corporate dog. My last played games? Starsector and Elin. Yours? Some form of live service shooty slop no doubt.
>>735640361they open the log in servers a bit before maintenance ends, retard
>>735640330That's what I'm really curious to see. That and the vault wipe after 3 months. I really can't see that people will be more motivated to play if they've lost everything they looted over 90 days of playing. Weekends should get a bump no matter what, but how much of a bump, or how much of a drop off after the weekend bump is something I'm curious to see.
>>735640418Is this Netflix math where if you look at the Steam page that's considered a sale?
>>735640467This is a Marathon thread on /v/. It's always schizoposting hours.
>>735638739Isn't this game first person?
>>735640262i said that bungie is full of troons retard
>>735637959>800 developersMeanwhile Team Cherry is 3 jews in Australia and their games print money.
>>735638259Ugly
>>735639796Fortnite has milked the plebs dry. They're finally getting bored of it and looking forward to GTA6.
>>735638114>>even if the game underneath the surface is a masterwork of design
>>735640518They will need to rethink the wipe I think. Arc is smart to make it optional
Overwatch's enduring success proves the hero shooter model makes money, especially with its sudden resurgence this year.Rival's enduring popularity proves the same.Marathon has likely made back roughly 1/3rd of of its development budget already, and its got Sony's backing. That means Sony is gonna look to plug away at this long term and recoup their investment via the live service parts of the game.Its pretty decent news for people that actually like the game, Bungie will probably double down on a big battle pass once the first paid season officially starts and start looking to pump out new Shells (Classes) fairly regularly to generate interest
>>735639905RE6, but you fight one
>>735637959Endless amount of shilling and it sold 2 mill across 3 platforms. Holy flop. Maybe now people will stop making Concords.
Barefoot vandal with stirrup leggings will save this game
Only 1.2M???They should waste a couple more milly paying streamers to play and shill their garbage again
>>735640418>Marathon may have sold close to 2 million copies>may have solNigger they have the real numbers, why are they posting wild estimates instead?
>>735640269>>735640334Let people enjoy themselves, chud. You're not the target audience for these threads. Deal with it.
>>735640354Absolute american moron.Love it
>>735640361anon, there's plenty to laugh at Marathon about without going full schizo
>>735637959truth is, only americans bought and play thisbonus - american game dev is at it s worst point in history. another industry they had a premier position and lost it thanks to shareholder quarter mentalityas for marathon the design is just not appealing at all
>>735640538>The game is first person, so it shouldn't have character customizationI have been hearing this retarded meme since Cyberpunk 2077. Where does this come from?
>>735638259Accumulated hate for a decade of Destiny & Destiny 2
>>735640496and for most games people can just leave the fucking game on without hitting exit even if they're under maintenancethe schizo freaking about that is stupid the game is so underwhelming there's no need to make shit up it's going to keep losing people as bungie intends
>>735640675I think the question right now is if they have the budget to continue supporting it as significantly as they'd like, especially if player counts start to dwindle. I don't think the numbers right now are that concerning, but the next significant update is just one of the maps at night, and I guarantee there will be a pretty large exodus at the 3 month wipe. Cryo Archive should really be repurposed. If it were Arc Raiders the gay puzzle shit would be a rotating map condition and you could go there normally other times
MARATHON HAS 400K DISCORD MEMBERSCHUDS ETERNALLY BTFO
>>735638595>console best-sellers are literally ball and gun games respectively
>>735640754The fact that Peanut dropped it because his zoomer chat hated it is probably so frustrating to the devs. He seems to like it
>>735639502That probably didn't even cover their marketing budget let alone the upkeep costs, severs and having to constantly produce new content for a live-service game. They're quite literally never making their initial investment back from this game, let alone a profit.
>>735640869>Y-you guys have remained stable on this position, therefore making it invalid!You're a fucking retard, lol. Give me a seething reply, it's all you've ever been able to do
>>735637959>Completely made up guesswork numberlmao
>>735638739>wearing brightly violent red means trouble
>>735640931>150k members online, 40k playingwhy in the world are people in a discord for a game they aren't playing? doesnt make any sense
>>735638259I didn't want for nothing, it just happened, I just didn't care when it did because I'm not a corporate bootlicker brandwhore like you are.
>>735638926>Why do retards keep pretending marathon was supposed to make the billions sony spent on bungie when they bought them like 3 years and 4 destiny expansions ago?Because that IS the goal of a company that is gambling hundreds of millions of dollars to try to produce the next Fortnite in hopes it will make back all the money they've spent and more. What else could be the purpose of live service games like Marathon, Concord, Fairgames, Horizon Hunters Gathering, etc? To exist as niche products? Of course not. If that were the case, they might as well stick to traditional games with lower budgets such as Clair Obscur and grow new IP from there, instead of paying out the ass for teams to moderate chats, ban cheaters, and keep the servers online.I know it may seem like an absolute retard move on Sony's part, but it's true. They're just failing HARD at what they're trying to accomplish that none of this seems real. They have been THAT incompetent.
>>735638259I don't want Marathon to failI want the whole industry to fail
>>735638259so playstation dont fund studio that makes games nobody wants to play
>>735640931How many of those are banned?
>>735637959Maradads…
>>735641008I don't get it
>>735638259I just want Concord 3. My favorite game series should continue forever.
Arc Raiders is popular despite being an extraction shooter. The social aspect of it is what really drew people in. If Sony/Bungie were smart they would never expect huge numbers out of this
>>735638259TORtanic did a number on this place. Now everyone is just a miserable retard who wants a repeat of that hilarious time.
Uhhh blastbros?Why the FRICK are we losing to Overwatch?
>>735638259Because live service projects deserve death, and so does Bungie. They could’ve made another awesome Marathon game that was an FPS, show us the majesty they gave to the Halo series. An FPS that was single player focussed. But no, we get a shitty live service game. I’m glad it’s dying.
>>735640765I just hacked your ip address by backtracking your post history. I’m going to find you mother fucker and slit your throat in your sleep. Say your prayers.
>>735640494Is this a new pasta?
>>735640101Because it hasn't made back its budget, companies only brag about numbers if they break even. For example, say what you want about FFXVI but it managed to make back its budget (although I am sure it made a very small profit) because SE bragged about its 3 million units sold but FFVII Rebirth NEVER EVER got a sales announcement by SE which means it never broke even.
>>735640972Wasn't he one of the paid shills?Of course he'd seem to like it
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?
>gamers didn't buy into yet another live service game from the makers of Destinyno shit
>>735641205>HELLDIVERS 2 ABSOLUTELY MOGGING BUNGO AT 21
Blogger speculation != official sales numbersIf it's not from Sony or Bungie, it's just a guess and likely much lower
>>735638259we're long overdue for the second video game crash
A lot of this discussion is treating this game like it was ever meant to just be another live service game with a steady 30-50k playerbase. No we cannot just treat this like another game because we have basic context of how these companies work. It's like people are just blind to how many attempts Sony has made at The Next Big Thing. These games have tremendous budgets because they're meant to be GTA V huge. Sony did not spend this much money to make something that pulls in less players than fucking Warframe during dead months.
>>735641262He did a sponsored stream of it, but he played it unpaid a few times before and after. He won't stream it anymore because his chat shits their pants
>>735641315Funniest shit is that Bungie posted a milestone for fucking discod usersNot active players Not salesNot even "player engagement"But fucking Discord subs
>>735641263If you're decently decked out there's literally no reason to play the game until the next potential Cryo run.
>>735639796They be in desperation mode
>>735641403Bungie sold to Saudi Arabia when?
>>735637959!#%$ YOU, I HAD A GOOD TIME.
>>735641403I can't believe Highguard peaked higher.
>>735641228Silly fool. I already hacked the mainframe and changed my IP and faked my post history in anticipation. I'm 10 steps ahead of you.
>Marathon.webp
>>735640538> Can only see hands> Pay $20 for character skinsWhy would I buy fucking skins BUNGIE?
>>73563943888k concurrent does translate to like 900k total players. Highguard had 110k and they said they had over 1 million total players try the game in the first week
>>735641403WE>haven't posted a singleARE>paying streamers to play our gameHAVINGserious conversation of bringing D1 to steam as a last ditch effortA BLAST
>>735637959>BLASTHAVER, say the line!>...f..fuck you i'm having a blastApplause brother.
>>735638259I hate the gaming industry. I only play old & indie games.
>Highguard had 2M players>Marathon is at 1.2M
>>735641521No you didn’t lol, most people who played bungies games were playing games online with gay men lol. They all have gay group chats with their headphones on under the pretence of team based tactical shooters. Lol they actually like hang out with these strange old men on Xbox and spend their nights drinking together LMFAO hahahaha dude you’re literally the gayest fucker.
>>735640645People need to stop doomposting about progression wipes in extraction shootersIts not a negative of the genre, its a positive. The point is starting again and fighting on even footing.
>>735640334buy the dip bros!bungie should just admit that they didnt sell a million sooner rather than later
>>735641332Based e-toddlers.
>>735638595>rocket leagueWhy didn't Sony do something smart, and buy that instead of letting Timmy buy it? It would have been a lot cheaper than Bungie, and would have actually made them a profit. lol
>>735641680Holy fuck, that’s a nice anime drawing. Where did you get that? Did you draw that cartoon insult yourself? Very good, very good eye for detail. You can see how the anime girl is pointing to us and laughing. That’s a clever one. HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU TO MAKE DEMO MEMES SIR? ARE YOU WORKING FOR THEM? POST YOUR FACE AND ADDRESS IF YOURE NOT SCARED. WHAT COLOR IS YOUR FACE? HOW MANY ANIME DRAWINGS DO YOU MAKE PER HOUR?
>>735641741>atleast w-we owned the ch-chuds... r-right?>*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
>>735641718That’s not just extraction shooters though, that applies to just about every game with seasonal mechanics. That’s what keeps each new season interesting, the chase.
>>735640793Explain it then, faggot.
>>735638304>>735638418Or let the fomo build for destiny people and add a singleplayer campaign. the profit could very well be 1B a year from now if sony doesn't concord them.
>>735639145It's already in beta, retard, go buy the founders package and join.It's fucking retarded though. Who the fuck wants a permadeath survival crafting eve online.
>>735638595People still play cyberpunk on consoles without mods?
>>735641419and you think that strategy is conducive to regaining players or what?
[SPOILER] LOL [/SPOILER]
>>735638259I dont really care about bungie, I want sony to fail for becoming Californian, then shutting down japan studio, evolution and studio liverpool
>>735641718I like the way Arc does it by giving you something nice if you do it. Pretty sure that contract progression gets wiped too. That will inevitably lead to a pretty large drop in players
>>735641982Yeah exactly it's not
>>735641992retart
>>735641879Not him, but you sound mad as hell. lmao
>>735641992>More isolated geographics>Like...bongistan and Italy
>>735641901Im predicting a great change in the winds of this game. I have made hundreds of excel spreadsheets calculating the exact turnover rates and also the rates of new players. HOLD, keep your games open. Because if this data is correct (heh implying I ever make a mistake in my savage calculations), the playerbase is solely maintained by a magical essence called “spirit”. And without the spirit of the player, there will be a sharp and steady decline to the player bases ego. It’s well studied and well documented, and I will release a full report in my next post 13 days from now. Set your calendar so you get the report, it’s extremely vital to the integrity of our community.
>>735642034roger that fellow blast haver
>look babe, they're still obsessing over marathon
>>735641960I don’t but the dlc brought a lot of ppl back
>>735642115Everyone loves a good train wreck!
>>735642104K... KEEP ME POSTED
>>735640913I feel like having a dedicated end game area is good for the game's identity. It's already establishing itself as the "Hardcore" option to arc raider's "carebear arcdad" community. I think they just need to add another map, somewhere in difficulty and loot between Outpost and Cryo, and then later add another tier of late game beyond cyro with a bigger bad. There needs to be a sort of sense of things getting bigger and more intense as the game progresses
>>735638259Just Crimsaar Desert shills
>>735638259The """"modern game industry"""" and certain unappreciated fellows must pay, with their lives if possible.
>>735642042Lol that guy just sits there drawing anime girls for hours and hours every day. Pretty much the most pathetic fuck you can imagine.
>>735642104I KNEEL
>>735637959Bungie died after Reach
>>735642032Arc raiders offers absolute barebones barely there bonuses that looks like they slapped it together in 5 minutesAnd progression doesnt matter in arc raiders anyway because the dumb swededevs think its fine for a kitted out stitcher to compete with purple weapons
>>735641179luckily devs seem more than happy to give us all the Tortanics we could ask for
>>735641992>The isolated geographic regions in question
>>735638114Curse of multiplayer games. Artwork - trans is among the best in media.
>>735642115yeah we literally won lmao
>>735637959Oh noWho cares?
>>735642104
>>735642212I guess that's my point though is that fostering a small "Hardcore" community isn't going to support this game long term
Your reminder that Bungiedrones were claiming this slop sold 2m copies in its first week
>>735642302Games that adopt these crazy demoralizing nicknames are actually like really good. They just do that to scare people away or something, I don’t really get the full reason. I played starwars mmo like a few years ago again and it was pretty awesome, very similar to wow classic. Much more enjoyable than any new MMOs for some reason. Very few players but still managed to get some good games. It did the dungeon and PvP thing really well. I didn’t play endgame, it probably sucked, I felt no reason to, I could just tell getting to max level probably sucked.
>>735642217Do NOT open if you're a Marasister
>maratroons still complaining about thermal scopes OP>when their next "map" is a night version of marsh>which will make them even more OPBwhahaha fucking Tarkov solved this problem years ago with hard but still realistic limits on thermals and some magic BS you can take to lower your body temp. Real thermals are OP. You cannot hide from a real thermal scope unless you are behind fucking glass.
>>735641879>>735642240Anime website >>735642302And they're actual failures this time
LOL
>>735638259no want it is the reality it failed
>>735642709>Now that the hate train has mostly passed
>>735642728Okay Yoda
>daily marathon seethe threadhttps://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4reminder marathon haters trying to force another concord are the real mental illness
>>735642610AIIIIIIEEEEEEE DELET THIS@BUNGIE @SONY @FBI @KAMALATTHIS IS A HATE CRIME
>>735641879It’s always the mocking anime post always trigger these trannies.
>>735638259If you were still willingly getting assfucked by Bungie/Activision after Destiny 1 then you just would not understand. 40 dollars and many hours spent in DLC that would be absolutely 100% useless in under a year.
I haven't played Marathon but I hear it's fine. Like it's not 'blast having' good but it's fine. I wouldn't pay $40 for it.
>>735642471I do, even though I don't play the game. I just want more of the kino faction intro videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH_RCO9gw0Q
>The intended monetization method after the initial game purchase are the ugliest character and gun skins known to manWhat did they mean by this
>>735637959>alinea analytics
>>735642610You know it needed to sell double that to break even, right? It's a massive bomb because it had a ridiculous budget and a decade of development hell behind it. The company's stock is tanking as we speak.
>>735643009smart move because you wouldn't be getting a refund when the game is shut down
I'm having a blast.
>>735643081>You know it needed to sell double that to break even, right? It's a massive bomb because it had a ridiculous budgetSource on that?
>>735643114Wish game devs moved towards peer to peer as a back up. If Payday 3 can do it despite being a shit game, then I don't see why Sony can't. Isn't it better to keep sales going than to shut down a revenue stream even if it's small?
>>735638259Destiny 2 mostly. Bungie can huff farts for what they did with that game.
>>735638259It looked very gay and that's usually enough to know
>>735639796>How can smaller games survive if even Fortnite is laying off huge swaths of employees?Other games dont spend hundreds of millions every month for collabs
>>735642610MY EYESSS AYYYYYAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>735637959>Underneath the surface is a masterwork of designThe fuck does that even mean? It's 4/ maps and one game mode. What fuckin' design?
>>735643307>one game modeSame with every other extraction shooter.
Still no IGN review of Marathon 20 days after launch, but they put out a CD review already.
>>735643081>NC stock plummeting>pearl abyss stock plummeting>netmarble stock plummeting >nexon stock risingHow do they do it, bros?
>>735638304Make all marathon cosmetics also apply to your destiny account.This way you get all the potheads to play marathon
>>735637959YOU BLODDY BITCH BASTARDS SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT
>>735643426Maplestory classic servers.
>>735641568Can't wait for them to add boobs you can see while looking down like Citadel.
>>735638259Obnoxious Arrogance getting comeupance is great.
so, they planned to make most of their money off cosmetics when the stolen artstyle is one of the most criticized things about the game
>>735638259It's because retard oldfags can't get over the death of Atari/Arcade slop and just want to watch everything else burn so they can be the only faggot losers to exist. lmao
Here is how Bungie can still wi-ACK
>>735643368>Tell reviewers not to give reviews until the endgame content comes out a month after release>They obey like good dogs>None of them can even play the end game content when it comes out and so there was no point in delaying their reviews intended for people considering early purchasesBig brain move
>>735637959why is there a culture war around this game? i have never heard of this until today
>>735638259Faggots want to relive the days of TORtanic
>>735643806It’s woke
>>735643806Me neither but it's fun to hate
>>735643806this. i'm having a blast in marathon, and the grifters are just making up nonsense and acting like incels by just steamchart watching.
>>735638259I don't care that much but I know that a lot of people are still seething because of what they did to Destiny.
>>73563795948 million dollarsThat's basically what they would earn by releasing a taken shader in destiny back in the dayIt must be depressing for Sony to think that those numbers are for just one (1) popular fortnite skin
>>735641332The game is boring as fuck to watch so no surprise there. It’s boring as fuck to play too.
>>735643861arc raiders is a wokefest and it's literally the only successful game in the genre
>>735643726Read PushSquare’s “review” - it is word for word the Bungie marketing slop. I’m pretty sure they just took whatever Bungie marketing gave them, fed it to an LLM and gave it a 9/10. The journalist who did this was later raging about the TrannyEra CCU thread on his xitter.
>>735637959Vibe shift bros...not like this
>>735638259>live service slop>does nothing new for either the extraction subgenre or the FPS genre despite all the backing it has>the people who made Halo are all gone>"p-please don't review our game yet it needs to be complete first" instead of just releasing it feature complete
>>735644031the only vibe shifting is the bad dragon dildo in the tranny devs ass as they look for a new job
>>735643996getting mad at trannyera of all things when it’s the most positive about maratroon kek.
trans@bungie will save them soon. they will add a rainbow to their logo like arc and show their tranny dev team and get 400k ccu just you watch. bungie is back, truly a return to form and a vibe shift where we can all blast and be blown away.
>>735638259but I didn't do anything
>>735640494It's funny to watch Bungie fail though. I haven't played a bungie game since destiny 1, that was like a decade ago. I'm simply observing the dumpsterfire. >Starsector and ElinI wish more anons had taste this good so we could have some things to talk about other than ragebait made by shills and marketers bumping heads. In fact, I wish we had a game like elin art style, world and perspective but RTWP
>>735644126I've read incredibly level headed posts straight up saying enough with the chud witch hunts here's why the game is failing to get a footing, and what to do about it. They were promptly sent to the gulag.
Why is /v/ like this>>735637959>>735643014
>>735638595whenever someone links circana i always have to remind them that its US sales only.
>>735639626I think it’s established at this point that the most sweeping general rule of thumb for sales is 10x steam max concurrent = total sales across all platforms. The reality is obviously skewed by the games actually quality, long term word of mouth, and refunds. In marathons case this still isn’t “good” given the retention rate on the live service model
>>735638259I want them to suffer for releasing the dog shit that was Halo 3
>>735638259>live service>extraction shooter>riding on an old IP it shares nothing with just for nostalgiabaitingAny one of these would be enough to justify wishing death upon it. All three are turbocancer.
>>7356379591m in like 10 days is a really good number.cope ans seethe
I only play chinese games
>>735640101Because if you go public and say 'we sold 1m' then go quiet from that point onward, everyone is gonna know you didn't ever get to 2m or more.
>>735638595>1. NBA 2K26Ugh. These people, man. THESE "PEOPLE". its been like this for decades.
>>735643861https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/y30wrYEaatnSTlk4ecKtnw/>>735643994cus it's a carebear game where you can get banned for killing a streamer a few too many times
>>735644524Ayo da fuck you mean by "these people" dawg?
>>735643202Agreed, which is why I hope Marathon succeeds and they never make a Destiny title again. Destiny sucked ass from day fucking 1.
The problem is S*ny, more precisely the retarded CEO. Bungie has been shit for years why is anyone surprised.
>>735640760That's not an official Bungie account making the post, anon. Bungie or Sony themselves haven't said anything about sales figures. Just Discord userslol
Would you play this?
>>735640958>>735644524Most of the global population is either brown or black. Browns and blacks are poor. Poor people buy consoles.
>>735644586Lunchtime rowdies
>>735637959blastbros....paul bussi confirmed the numbers with bungie.
>>735641263>chart title
>>735643996Yeah this shit is embarrassing
>>735644734
>>735639626yeah this game didn’t get a million in sales. the first metric they bragged about was their discord…which has 400k members. im guessing they have 600-700k sales MAX.
>>735644728>Poor people buy consoles.Delusional take when more than half of Steam's userbase is from Russia and China
>>735644886BTFO
>>735638259
>>735644780>solid enemy AIthis troon is retarded and should not have a job. opus 4.6 would laugh at you for making it write this blatant bullshit shilling
>>735644886Uh oh melty
>>735643806Woke companies putting out failed products is always cause for celebration.
>>735644886>censoring faggotwhat a fa**ot
FUCK YOU I HAD A BLASTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IMBLASTINGBLASTINGFF
>>735644987Forgot image. New Star Trek show with a 100% LGBT cast got cancelled after one season. But they're contractually obligated to put out another season.
Marathon subreddit is now saying that the hate train is over and they should open it up for free weeks. But people in comments are clowning on the OP and saying the hate train ended long ago and now it’s just apathy. fucking kek these subreddits of failing games are always so delicious to read with all the cope >>735645040peanut will play this game soon and bring it to new ccu heights trust, he is in the accolades videos and the most famous quote in it poggies
>>735644909The Russians and Chinese are generally speaking much well off than your average brown or black.
>>735638259notice how not a single one of these replies mentions anything about how the game plays or why it's actually not fun or anything like that. it's all just mental illness boogeyman obsession. theyre shilling the game way harder than bungie or journos ever did so i hope theyre getting paid.
>>735645065Harry Potter tv series is going to have a nigger snape and hermione. When do you think it’ll be cancelled?
How much do they need to sell to win?
>>735642115At least someone is
>>735642309>the UKIsn't that supposed to be Sony's big FESTUNG EVROPA? Where they have 90% of the gaming market? Do bongs just not give a fuck about FPS games?
>>735642610You piece of shit, you ruined the blast I was just having!
>>735645156trvke. as a gamer dad who can only play for 7 mins a day im having a blast, the queue takes exactly that amount of time and it makes me feel so fulfilled
>>735645156/v/ does not play video games,. this has been a politics board for over a decade, anon.
>>735645198It's already a shitshow behind the scenes with the child actors fighting all the time. I can't see it getting past Azkaban.
>>735645156So fkin true sis louder for the people in the back
>>735638259every single day at Destiny 2 has been 1 9/11 after another for the last 5 fucking years.
[BREAKING NEWS] Tassi has CONFIRMED with Bungie that these terrible sales numbers are close to reality..
>>735645198why are they trying to be woke, the woke and transfaggots hate jk rowling. they should be pandering to the chuds. holy fuck why is everyone in management positions across tv/video games/movies retarded
>>735645357Honestly man they should have killed your franchise off when 80% of the playerbase dropped D1 in the first weekend. Would have saved the company a decade of humiliation.
>>735639778The big test is going to be reset in two months. I think that's when a lot of players will log off and never come back
>>735644734Ok, now it's time to start panicking if you're Bungie
>>735645156you started it, if you start drawing lines in the sand then don't cry that people start taking sides
>>735645408paul tassi is a chud tho
>>735645482>you started itthis is literally the first marathon thread I've been in and i dont even own the game
VEILGUARD 2.0
>>735645357>the last 5 yearsIt's been a 9/11 ever since D2's vanilla release. TTK and Forsaken were exceptions, and Forsaken was only so "good" because they reverted their retarded double primary system back to what people actually liked before they did that. It's seriously pathetic how long Bungie has dragged that game out. I still remember when they blatantly lied about how much "playable space" was going to be in the game back in 2013https://youtu.be/BTfhrONAp-c?t=141
>>735639905The Duskbloods by Fromsoftware
>>735645408Alright so I usually don’t participate in things like this but I’ll chime in here.This game has sold 730k units. Not sure where this 1.2m number is coming from and who confirmed it to Paul Tassi, but it’s false. The platform split is close, but the correct numbers are 71%, 23%, 6%.
>>735645538reddit resetera ign trannies have been criticising and shitting on games for random culture war shit that has nothing to do with the gameplay (diversity, clothing, no gay romance etc), if you start doing that then people will start ignoring the gameplay in your games too and will start shitting on them for culture war reasons
>>735645580ttk was wotlk level of good, hopefully it'll be playable soon on shadps4
>>735637959TOP THE CHARTS
>>735641741An actual steam charts stock market would be fun
>>735645680does ur uncle work at bungie? i mean your numbers look more realistic than fucking alinea analytics but they’re just as made up
Playing this game enlightened me on why this developer has had such a big fanbase that will eat any diarrhea they get thrown at. It's some of the most low skill fps gameplay I've ever experienced. I have no doubt it will live with 5k players forever that just love this "gunplay" but good lord man if this is how Halo and Destiny games are I'm just astonished.
>>735645731so you're fucking retarded is what you're telling me.
>>735638259/v/ wants everything to fail. This board is a death cult.
>>735645820an eye for an eye is what I'm telling you
>>735645680so it did break past 20% on the PS5. And xbox looks abysmal.
>>735645680Okay but are you HOOKED™?
>>735645680Even I can’t accept a sub 800K units sold.
>>735637959Console will save this game
>>735645680>>735645786>>735645869Bonus: none of the numbers hit any of the internal prediction models, on any platform. The split across platforms was expected to be more like 50-35-15. Review aggregates were expected to be above 85, but this trended downward because of the reception/apathy toward the server slam.
I'm not even joking the asshurt is so strong I wouldn't be surprised if Sony sues Valve or something at this point for harboring economic terrorists on their platform. They have that much at stake
>>735645829Not anime horse girls.
>>735645743Eh, TTK was alright. I mean it's pretty amazing when you compare it to all the other shitty stuff Bungie's put out but TTK's quality should have been the basis for every expansion after that. It wasn't even anything super special but they just ended up doing that whole entire expansion cycle all over again with CoO and HoW into Forsaken as if they learned absolutely nothing from the first 3 years.
>>735646061Why were their predictions based on? Vibes? Chicken entrails?
>>735645680>>735646061Currently, a lot of discussions are being held internally regarding the future of Marathon. The current quick fix will be to make Ranked available every day. Cryo will continue to be on weekends. But there are discussions to reduce the number of teams in Cryo from 6 to 4 or some dynamic number based on the matchmaking health. This is all in flux. A lot of discussions are happening, but the atmosphere is very bad. About the future of Bungie and what Sony thinks about this? I have no idea.
>>735646262>VibesYes. Didnt you get the memo? The vibe has shifted around Marathon and it's looking to be lightning in a bottle.
>>735646308Sony closed 8 studios in the last 6 years, all so they could follow this live service garbage.
>>735645290>It's already a shitshow behind the scenes with the child actors fighting all the time.PLEASE sauce me up on this cause it would be so fucking funny if real
>>735646262While I’m not aware of the exact specifics, we have a team that manages benchmarking and market analysis and they come up with these numbers. I don’t have an idea of the methodology behind it, but this is quite common across any developer/publisher. I’ve had discussions with people about this (not with these teams who came up with the estimations/numbers, just my own team and other friends) and they think a part of the failure is because of the art fiasco and getting dragged into a culture war on top of that. Lots of discussion internally about whether going so hard into a niche genre was warranted if the studio’s future was at stake. Especially given that multiple people had argued against it prior.
Based console CHADS telling bung*e to fuck off.Why are PCniggers so retarded with zero standards?
>>735639905Does Super Mario Odyssey count
>>735645680you, paul tassi, and alinea are all equally fake
>>735644909Ivan has to the know how to steal his parts and build his computerChang has direct access to the manufacturer and can get his chink shit cheap Jamal doesn't know how to build a computer or what one isPedro is too lazy to build one
>>735646592Can you tell us why management decided to take this direction? I understand the live service approach was mandated by Sony, but why resurrect the Marathon IP and why an extraction shooter?
>>735644693>Uses knock off mp5 but a weird shotgun model instead of Israeli uziSo ngmi I can't believe it>>735644728Clever people do
>>735646715I really doubt it was mandated by Sony, considering Sony paid $4billy for Bungie JUST for their live service "expertise" it's more Bungie making the case to Sony they didn't just waste money so they don't just outright get rid of them.
>>735646708This. So much this. I don’t understand all of this, I’m having a blast
>>735637959Wait, if Marathon that has more players than AC Shadows only sold 1.2 million copies...
>>735646592Oh right, one thing I forgot to mention: multiple things that are now being addressed or being brought up by the players were already brought up by multiple teams before. The UI was a HUGE sticking point (among other things, but this one I remember quite well), but someone pushed it through despite all the concerns. >>735646715I’m not part of the decision making entity and when I came in the direction was already set in stone. I did ask around a bit but after getting a few “let it rest, this has been argued to oblivion already” type of responses I stopped. >>735646827Well, I can confirm this. Nothing was mandated by Sony. Well, the release date being what it ended up being was mandated, but the direction of the game and any elements in it, Bungie had full autonomy.
>>735638259Because Sony killed Japan Studio in favor of dogshit live service games.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_StudioNow I want all of Sony Computer Entertainment's projects to fail, including Marathon.
>>735646947>the release date being what it ended up being was mandatedyeah they wanted to get this shit off the books by the end of q1 lmao
>>735638259'ate bungie'ate playstation 'ate modern devs'ate shareholders 'ate journos and everything they stand for'ate shilling simple as
>>735638737A scammer
>>735646947nice larp you could be the paul tassi of /v/
>>735638259I literally just want every new GaaS game to fail. That's really it. Because every time some shitty GaaS game fails, maybe the industry will come a fraction of a percent closer to MAKING A REAL FUCKING VIDEO GAME. I dunno, maybe it is just wishful, idealistic thinking, but I really just hope that maybe all these stupid fucking corporations will just give up on shitty GaaS games if they keep failing. That is why I cheer for these shitty games losing millions of dollars, because maybe eventually they will stop trying to make fortnite again, and start making art.
>>735646947If Sony hadn’t mandated that it should be released by Q1, when do you think Bungie would have ended up releasing it?
>>735641027You sound like a good person.
>>735637959Fellow Marathon runners, my feet... are tired...
>>7356379591.2 MILLIE SISTERS!!
>>735647246Fall 2026. It would’ve given us time to do multiple open betas to gather feedback and address the issues rather than doing it in Production like we’re doing right now, plus we would be ready with more content, night versions of the maps and so on. Also, I see this misconception here a lot, so just to correct the record: the night versions are separate maps, not reskins.
https://archive.is/dztAa
>>735647529comical
>>735647529Here's a more readable archive.https://web.archive.org/web/20260324211711/https://gameinformer.com/review/marathon/actions-have-consequences
>>735647474stop larping on /v/ and if it’s real then prepare your resume you fucking attention seeking faggot nigger you won’t have a job soon >>735647529it’s a good game that’s not for everyone this is easy to understand for most people except the retarded faggot ccu niggers
>>735647474>another year of developmentDude you guys are incompetent as fuck
>>735646061were developers upset that barely anyone played during the server slam thus nullifying the whole point of the server slam stress test?Is there a lot of cope and false hope and bullshit peddled by managers about the status of the game?
>>735646129why is natty so fucking evil?
>>735647194you still get your artsy fartsy games like expedition 33, slay the spire or hollow knight, live service games will never die, it's just a matter of which live service game is top dog and which one goes into the trash can
We have to save Marathon.
>>735638259It's nice when there's good news for people who like games instead of stores
>>735646947are there any serious plans to add a PVE mode?
>>735646607>so sayeth the 'caco
>>735637959Maybe Bungie will finally die.
>>735637959we lost this one sisters... do not lose hope sis!
>>735647474>bro just 6 more months bro! Just 6 more months that’s all we need to fix it bro! Just 6 more months that’s all we need!
>>735647474what the fuck were they doing all these years?
>>735646947Is it possible to do a campaign? People might actually play an 8 hour Marathon campaign.
>>735644693>brown hands
What are the heads at Sony thinking right now
Sony ate Bluepoint for much less than this catastrophic blunder. Bungie is 100% getting merged lmao.
chat who would buy destiny from sony?
>>735647739>Live service games will never die>Epic lays off 1000 Fortnite devs todayOh no no GaaSissies…
>>735647653Sure! I just got a bit itchy by seeing those numbers from Alinea being backed by Paul Tassi using “internal sources” when it’s just blatantly false. As I said, I usually refrain from doing things like this and will now leave you all to it after this one. Sorry!>>735647682The numbers during the beta test was closer to the splits I mentioned before, which were within our expectations. 50-35-15. The interest seemed to dwindle as it went on, but it didn’t really ring any alarm bells. No, not a lot of coping or false hope. You have to understand that there was a lot of internal strife for this particular game especially after the art thing. Nobody is going around saying I told you so’s…but you can tell some people are itching to. >>735647770As I said, a lot in flux, but no. There are a lot of levers that can be pulled to try to fix things, but currently it’s more of what Sony is thinking of doing while applying quick fixes. I am not aware of this, so I can’t speculate, but knowing the internal metrics, it’s not going to be anything good. I assume upper management would know more. There has certainly been a lot more Sony involvement for the past year. The release date was mandated by them.
>>735646308are you the same retard who "predicted" a bunch of stuff about last weekend that proved to be completely false?
>>735638259Because its gay
>>735648121The greatest ironic fate for Bungie would to be a support studio for Helldivers 2
jeet melty ittmarathon flopped btw
>>735648132wow they only have 14k workers left now, live service games are all shutting down tomorrow, lmao retard
>>735637959LE WHOLESOME BIG CHUNGUS REDDITORSARS, HOW CAN TRIS HAPPEN
>>735638259I care not for Marathon or Bungie. I only hope for Sony's ruin. Sony is pozzed, betrayed its home country, and has greatly damaged video games.
>>735638259If you chase two rabbits, you will lose both. Destiny 2 was already on thin-ice in terms of fan goodwill, and they murdered it so they could make Marathon, whilst expecting the pay-piggies to keep shelling out for truly terrible expansions like Lightfall and The Final Shape, and time-gated seasonal stuff. Their answer to the criticism, was to simply keep doing what they were doing, but changing how it's presented to make people more aware of how they were being constantly ripped-off.
>>735637959I want Marathon to last until the end of summer or early fall. So that Bungie's closure/absorption can be announced close to Christmas.
>>735641179you are merely seeing your own misery as a failed game dev/activist
>>735647194there's so many real games you could play but being mad gives you more dopamine so you sit on the internet and rage about mainstream games because you're still mad that your niche hobby has been commoditized and taken over by normgroids. you need to ignore the shit that makes you mad, and find other more creative avenues to pour your energy into, but you probably won't. do you even want to be happy?
>>735648178Is there a player count that if this hits, you know there will be some serious bitching by Sony? Like a number we can countdown to like when Curse of Osiris almost killed Destiny?Speaking of Destiny, anything you can say about that? Are devs being moved back to Destiny from Marathon? What is the June surprise? Will the game be ended?
>>735648117Katanas and iatos are being sharpened.
>>735648178>There are a lot of levers that can be pulled to try to fix thingslike what
>>735648192>poorly multiplayer extraction shooter with retarded clown artstyle is supposed to be in anyway similar to a singleplayer fps campaign and multiplayer arena shooter with ICONIC art style.
>even if the game underneath the surface is a masterwork of design>masterwork of design
>>735648192correlation?
>>735638259I just think this game looks ugly as fuckNever played their other games
>>735645680I believe you.
Why do reddit shills keep parroting that extractionslop is a niche genre?Arc, tarkov, hunt and even dark and darker are massively popular.Bungie was chasing a trend, it's not an art project, it's a live service slop, and failed because the game is atrocious and ugly, not because is a niche genre ffs.
>>735647474As someone who plays a lot of extraction shooters I do have to say the decision launch with only 3 maps effectively is bizarre to me. I quickly burned out on ARC Raiders' 4 maps plus the additional not long after release. I had hoped that with the smaller sizes of Marathon's maps, injections of new maps would come essentially every season. If the night versions of maps are significantly different this is maybe helpful but in terms of marketing/PR I'm not sure most will clearly understand that just glancing at the roadmap.
>>735638687>why are journos caping up so hard for bungie and going out of their way to add bullshit caveats like this to any negative article?Because they literally (allegedley) take bribes to shill games. It's the only way to explain their behavior to constantly push the worst games on the planet during the preview period, telling everyone it's the second coming of gaming.
>>735647296YesI realize when something is rotten and needs to be removed before you can redo it
>>735638259The Bungie C-suite should be in jail for fraud after convincing Sony to pay what they did for the company. Its insane they best they could do was turning marathon into an extraction shooter.
>>735638259TOTAL WESTERN UNEMPLOYMENT
>>735648204No.>>735648006Not happening, sorry. >>735647952>>735648004Game development takes time. We did have great success with our automated QA and the development pipelines are all set now, so theoretically the output could increase drastically now, but most of our time was used to set up the foundation for this as this was meant to last for >10 years. >>735648409There could be a player count like that, but I’m not aware of it, sorry. About Destiny, it’s more of the opposite. We’re pulling people from there to help us out. But Destiny will not be ended. >>735648461Well, I should have prefaced that this is what management (read: one guy) thinks. Quick fixes like changing matchmaking, these current plans like push people towards weekends etc, these are the levers we’re talking about. Things that can be done quickly with config changes.PvE or campaigns are not on the plate currently which is what I think would be the real deal to revive it. Quite unlikely to happen as long as this person remains on top, and even if it is given the clear it will take some time to do it well.
>>735638706Don't forget the art thieving. And as far as I've seen in videos of gameplay, the ambient colouring reminds me too much of no mans sky
>>735648742if the foundation is great, doesn’t it mean that destiny 3 could come quicker than expected?
>>735648742>Well, I should have prefaced that this is what management (read: one guy) thinks. Quick fixes like changing matchmaking, these current plans like push people towards weekends etc, these are the levers we’re talking about. Things that can be done quickly with config changes.Makes sense. Sounds like the usual management response of one guy spinning his wheels when he knows short term there's fuck-all he can do because all the bad decisions were long since made
>>735648742What is going on with the other shit you guys are working on like gummi bears?
>>735648742What’s the goal now? Selling more copies or retaining the current players?
>>735648691>Slopstiny 2 cummunity donate hundreds of thousands to charity annually>ends up going to virtual nigger hair instead of something like terminally ill children or animals lmfao
>>735637959Rest in peace. Stop bastardizing series. There is no reason Marathon should have multiplayer, let alone be a fucking Hero Shooter.
>>735648949It is very expensive to operate in Bellevue. Please understand.
>game company starts out humble with very passionate underground devs>makes a big hit, success follows suite>eventually corporate niggery causes original devs to leave>new jeets and liberal arts students take over, makes massive flaming dump of shit that tanks company value>bigger corporation: Hey this highly acclaimed game maker is going through a flunk at the moment, now's our time to buy them!>Billions wasted on acquiring zombie company, billions more wasted on producing their garbageYou love to see it
>>735648878Yes, it could. >>735648897Gummy Bears was spun off into its own studio directly under Sony. It was very fun :)>>735648898I really don’t have a clue. Most of the people I know are polishing their resumes waiting for the sword to fall.
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>>735648339then you should care about Bungie because they are just as pozzed as Sony
>>735649137Humble? Bungie? Also most of the idiots from Halo xbox days are still there.
>>735649137You know it's even funnier than this. Destiny, while a mess at launch, the gameplay itself was solid and there was so much cut content that these DEI and liberal arts students costed on what the old guard made slowly adding back the cut content some of which even was stretched to Destiny 2. By doing this they tricked people into thinking they knew what they were doing and that led to them making Marathon and showing they have no idea what the fuck they are doing.
>>735649294>Gummy Bears was spun off into its own studio directly under Sony. It was very fun :)What is the game like? Go into detail.
>>735648742>this was meant to last for >10 years.Wew. I mean I know Destiny lasted a while but man. What a risky business model to bank on such a gamble
>>735649347this, people like to parrot that a bunch of new-school woke libtards are calling the shots but many of the old heads are still at the company.
>>735638259Because I hate gay people and feminism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBGEnhpwAsA
>>735649294Grim. You seem pretty nonchalant about the whole ordeal so I hope that you have something decent lined up.
I like how even with how hard redditors are trying to suck and shill this game its flopping directly onto its ugly ass facethey probably arent even playing the game
>>735638259I don't hate the game per se, but I think there are crucial things that they won't fix, while riding the nerf train like every other GaaS dev and patching out every tiny little edge a player might have. The equivalent of making sure the in-game store works, but fixing nothing worthwile in the game itself.For that, I want them to fail and burn. I doubt they'll prove me wrong.
>>735649526They’re retired in place.
>>735649347>Also most of the idiots from Halo xbox days are still there.The only ones I can think of are Jason "Skellyhusk" Jones and Tyson "Nigger Brain" Greene
>>735648607Morgan Park either has the worst taste of any gamer in history or is one of the biggest paid shills in existence.
I like itI wish it had more content and better balance
>>735646607>random seething about pc
>>735649414it’s a smash bros moba
>>735649978ok how the fuck would that even play?
how the fuck are you retards falling for this larper, 730k units? give me a fucking break. and no predictions or anything concrete just spamming a lot of i don’t knows like bro didn’t put an ounce of effort
>>735648949charities are such fucking scams. most of it goes to pay employees and what little remains MIGHT get send to the cause you actually want to give money to. i recently found out blm sent millions to tranny organizations and kars4kids funds jewish summer camps.
>>735650038that’s what makes it more realistic you dumbfuck how would a low level employee know anything about the decision making. the numbers on the other hand would be available to most people
>>735638114I know they probably get ad money, but this is an asinine thing to write. Did Marathon even innovate on its own genre or is it just a big budget game from a big studio? The artstyle can't carry this opinion this far.The industry is out of touch with consumers, as every industry currently is.
>>735650038You lost Maratroon, get ready for eos
>>735650038It's more believable than 1.2 million players, 70% are on steam, and yet active steam numbers are incredibly fucking abysmal. Cope.
>>735638595>only steam has Resident Evil on their top 10No wonder why Capcom already moved out to PC gamers, console babies only cares about generic shooter or ball games
it's sad that we must institutionalize or otherwise dispose of liberalsthey have become a rabid dog unwilling to engage with facts, statistics or reality itselfunfortunately we will never get concord 7 if we solve the liberal problem but some sacrifices have to be made
>>735638259Bungie fucked with O'donell so I don't like them
Requesting the characters with dishwashing gloves and nerf gun mspaint
>>735637959only 69million more sales until they can recover and get in the green
>>735638259Bungie and their employees hold different political views than me so i want to see them KyoAni's
>>735649819PCnog is illiterate, many such cases!
>>735650302why is this “dev” lurking on fucking /v/ then? and got triggered by fake numbers put up by paul tassi who has his asshole open for bungie’s cock and is their most famous orbiter? fuck off nigger. 2 million is the real number. source: my uncle works at sony
>>735648742>Noweird, you type just like him.
>>735650184Not really no besides having classes/heroes instead of the usual gear. I quite like it but I have legit complaints about how the balance is ass (grenade and shotty spam) and the matchmaking is retarded (season level+vault value) The story and world is pretty cool but the faction missions are rather boring and only difficult because players are trying to gank you non stop, else they're just basic fetch quests or 'press button here' kind of deals. If Bungie wants to maintain players, they'd honestly have to fix the matchmaking whether it's gear, skill, or aggression and the fact all the maps are kind of the same right now without really any map modifiers besides occasional weather.
>>735650357>Caring about a republican incel dev
>>735650349>cultist projection
>>735637959>steamies like eating shit the mosthuh
>>735650463KWABOTY. even ps5 subreddit is clowning on Paul Tassi and alinea kek
>>735650486Cultists ignore reality every step of the way, like our dear leaders useful idiots such as yourself.
>>735650135is this your first experience with a larper? honest question. they always keep it intentionally vague because room temp IQ troglodytes like you think it makes them sound more "realistic".
>>735650614>subredditgo back
>>735650469Gear doesn't affect matchmaking? That should be the first priority.
>>735646592>dragged into the culture warbungie has been pushing ultra left activism for years, they didn't get dragged into this they marched into it proud and eager
>>735650349>it's sad that we must institutionalize or otherwise dispose of liberalsyou can start by deleting your steam account, anonbungie and valve are literally neighbors and buddies
>>735650463>why is this “dev” lurking on fucking /v/ then?Do you think devs are banned from coming here or something?
You know, maybe Marathon isn't so bad...
>>735650760you're probably right but at least you can say the nigger truth word on tf2
>>735638259https://youtu.be/nCQGQ5qBQTA
Into the pile it goes
>>735649325That anon brought up Marathon in particular. I phrased my post to show I don't really care about it amongst the other slop Sony has made of late. But sure, Bungie is pozzed and gets thrown in the pile with my ire being way more targeted at Sony.
>>735650838if you throw enough shit on it, it might still grow
>>735650738No, gear is based on overall vault value+season levelSo if you're bringing in your best shit and the guy next to you wanted to just cheap out with a freekit, you're kinda SOL which is why I think they should have a poverty gear bracket
>>735650940Very high risk of parasites, diseases, pathogens and other shit you don't want in your body from using human feces as fertilizer. Into the furnace they must go.
>>735650636no, i believe this dev because of the metrics they gave which line up with reality along with the platform splits plus what was expected unlike fucking alinea analytics and paul tassi
>>735651019But it might still grow
hey if this was an actual dev at least we have confirmation that the night maps aren’t just reskins. ill take that as a win, game is fun
>>735649347It's pretty clear the Activision deal completely fucked up Bungie permanently, the fact that they tried to pull Jew tricks on a founder like Marty is insane. Halo Reach was decent so there was still potential for modern bungie to make something good
>>735651132I guess that is how we will know if he was legit or not. If it's the same map but dark then he was larping
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>>735645156I don´t give a shit about how it plays or if it is fun. All I know it´s 40$ for a multiplayer only game with a single game mode, microtransactions and a battle pass. I´m glad it fails
>>735646592>and they think a part of the failure is because of the art fiasco and getting dragged into a culture war on top of that. They are correct>Lots of discussion internally about whether going so hard into a niche genre was warranted if the studio’s future was at stake.They were gambling that they could expand the genre. The product wasn't appealing enough to the mass audience, and current bungie is bloated and slow. Game is sparse.Arc and the Division shows what's possbile, and they did it on a fraction of marathon's budget.
>>735648742> against pvewhy?>take some time to do it welljust making maps not spawn others player is a start, make them solo only and balance it for trio later on
>>735647474I don't think it would have been enough. They saw the beta results and still got caught offguard. The beta results SHOULD have set off alarm bells. >>735648178 The problem wasn't the number of users. The problem was the direction over time, and the lack of explosive, I want to play this enough to get 2 friends plus some spares to commit, level of hype the game was designed around. Concord's beta made the same mistake. People tried it but the more they played the less they liked it. They wouldn't have bet the farm and so much reputation on Cryo if they had come in understanding their position better.
>>735648742>PvE or campaigns are not on the plate currently which is what I think would be the real deal to revive it. Something like, compelling enough PVE and lower skill lower intensity shit to keep casuals for the sweats to shoot at. Makes sense. But needs budget, time and vision. Don't just keep your resume handy. Build working shit for your portfolio. Make competent friends and help them out.
>>735638259Because they needlessly killed a game I did like in order to create it
>>735638259>finally get Bungies new game after a decade+ of Destiny>it's extraction slop>no campaign or single player, just go into our live service slop mode >get told its the best game ever>it's very clearly a niche titlebecause they're fucking retarded. it's a good game but it should have never been made, at least not by bungie
>>735650038If he is a fraud, he's copying from existing estimates from paid pros.
