The future of PC gaming.
>>735862165still sticking with Windows 7
>>735862215The past of PC gaming.
if you're on an AMD card there's basically no excusethe 9070 rapes every card on price to performance anyway so it's the best upgrade out there
>>735862354The rtx 6000 pro straight up rapes anything AMD will ever produce. It's better in every single way possible. AMD is for the poor. The rtx 6000 pro is more than twice as fast as the 9070 xt on native, double the frames from DLSS, another doubling from not needing to enable expensive antialiasing since DLSS performance looks better than native AMD 8* MSAA, and quadruple from multi frame generation. That is 32 times as fast as the 9070 xt. Meanwhile FSR4 is basically just an alternative algorithm for non-integer scaling with the monitor and is debatable on whether it even looks better than just running at a low resolution.
>>735862165Most people don't even know what the fuck an OS is, it will never be "the year of linux" or anything.That said, i do enjoy my arch with xfce OS, it's pretty comfy.
>>735862215No one asked.But at least you're using the last good Windows.
>>735863206Name a game
>>735862354>years old screenshot>when wine 11 just released and fixed fsync/esync being trashogey
>>735863339Cyberpunk 2077.
>>735863493Aren't you tired of playing it by now? it has been 6 years
>>735863206atrocious pasta>>735863396it's literally a week old, read itsee the mesa 26 part?
>>735863624https://docs.mesa3d.org/relnotes.htmlthere is no 26.1.0 and 0.1 released a month ago which is STILL pre wine 11
>>735863790fair enough, i'll look forward to someone retesting this thenstill, 98% of the performance is literally margin of error tier, that's a very good result considering proton is doing more work than native windows
>>735866376>windows 11 is 66% faster on averageKek. So much for your gaming OS.
>age verificationno thanks, i will continue to be a win10 ltsc gawd
>>735866831linux is the only os that has any pushback and recourse for age verification you can't even have the open conversation anywhere else
>>735866831Umm ackshually I'm not using Linux(tm) I'm using my own completely unique kernel which technically falls outside of the jurisdiction for required age verification.Nice try Gavin Jewsom.
>>735866376Why the FUCK would you not want your system to use all the ram you bought?Where did this meme even come from and why is it so common? Unused ram is wasted ram.
>>735862165Linux is fun to dick around on but it's not serious
>>735867345you can't be serious
>>735866951Steam OS uses soistem D doe
i just bought an amd cpu and gpu but when it was time to decide the OS i just felt like linux would break lots of my games even with proton and i just dont want to deal with it
>>735862165If SteamOS is the future of PC gaming, then it's better off dead.Valve are a company of liars and frauds. They do not deserve your money for their consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>735867865That doesn't implement age verification, only a storage field for birth date. SteamOS doesn't use that storage file, neither does Arch. SteamOS also has old version of systemD anyway, and likely is going to implement age verification through steam account just like Microsoft is going to do with Microsoft account.
>>735869417I disagree
>>735862165The future of PC gaming is death.
>>735862165valve should only take a 15% cut from games that fully support linux/steam os, at least for a few years to get the ball rolling
>>735877016Valve doesn't want devs making native ports.https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/
Based. Hope it comes out and gapes.
idk why you guys are waiting for steam OS, you can experience valves contribution to gaming on linux right now, literally all it takes is installing steam and enabling proton
>>735867865it's open source software, distro devs can literally just remove it if they wanted too
SteamOS isn't Linux, you can tell because it's not awful
>>735862165You guys can easily upgrade to Linux distro like ZorinOS, seems very user-friendly and easy to set up, you can even side-load it and run it on the side to see if your shit runs on it and its free. I'll probably be upgrading to it or similar distro later on when shit gets real ugly regarding media blackouts etc.
>>735862215>still sticking with Windows XP>still sticking with Windows 7soon>still sticking with Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021
>>735862215At this point, why bother? Linux will give you much better performance and compatibility than an os from 2009.
>>735869417>They do not deserve your money for their consumer-unfriendly practices.Are you the shartifact schizo? Why not post the full thing?
>>735871360storage field for birthdate is step 1 to age verificationthe only reason to add it is for age verificationbro seriously, stop lying to yourself about where it's going
>>735880249Soon they'll ask us for in year +20 ETA with 1~5 divergence steps piss results before plugging in with the computer to the network to make sure we aren't substance abusing and being "harmful actors" and "antisocial" in our behaviors or viewing "uncomfortable and controversial content."
>>735862165lmao
>>735880337ZorinOS literally solves that problem for you anon. Outdated meme is outdated. It was a problem on older software and builds. These days? No such worries. (Unless the game rejects Linux if it detects it through anti-cheat so there's that caveat. Otherwise nothing is stopping you other than hardware specs.)
Why was Linux so bad for decades tho? It seems that it was dogshit until Steam started fucking around with it in like 2016.Were the people making Linux retarded? Why has it taken decades to make it XP tier?
>>735880562They were mainly using Linux as a productivity not gaming software, they were utilizing it server-side because they didn't want to deal with Windows bullshit and they could just control every aspect of it. Android being a sort of a fork from Linux proved you could make stuff utilizing that shit in other environments as well, then steam, AI helped boost development of Linux I'm pretty sure which lead to a boost of proper use-case and usage in non-work related fields as well.
>>735880457modding games on linux is annoying as fuck
>>735880967Which ones are annoyingI have modded only a little bit since using it and it was easy
>>735881000get any mod that requires additional DLL and you have to manually add override command to game's launch argumentsneed any mod that requires a custom launcher or exe? have to figure out Proton's virtual file system for game
Love me linux set up, don't use it for games though only studying
>>735881076At least you are learning useful skills anon; Its a boon not a curse.
>>735881093Which distro
>>735881114I have a degree of master of engineering in IT and multiple Linux certificates.If it's too annoying for me, it's going to be unusable for normal gamers, unless they use it like console - no modding, hoping everything works out of box.
>>735862215HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>735881137I just use Linux Mint as it is easy to use. The new patch also fixed the one technical problem I was having so very happy
>>735862215fpbp
I would prefer playing Steam games via Android. Reading VNs on a tablet? COMF AF
>>735881342Use the Steam Link app you dumb tripcunt.
>>735881436That would require running the PC.
>>735880249>>735880334And you will continue to do nothing.
Troonix
>>735862165you can play nortubel on Linux
>>735863206AYYYEMDEE will release UDNA soon and will have feature parity with rtx 4090. It will happen soon.
>>735881453Why isn't your PC running 24/7?
>>735866376Windows idles at about 8gb ram
>>735876936It's already been declared dead 20 times in the last 30 years.2 more weeks amirite sister?
>>735880562Microsoft basically told a man with infinite money that they had the power to screw him over and that he couldn't do anything about it, so he devoted 1% of his infinite money to proving them wrong.
>>735863396>when wine 11 just released and fixed fsync/esync being trashcope
>>735880249I don't give a fuck about "where it's going", I care about what a piece of software does and doesn't do. Lying to myself? That's rich coming from a creature that is boldly lying about observable facts.
>>735880249>thinking the most open and customizable operating system will be the first to lock down age restrictions when it's still not clear how such a thing would even be implemented when users can just rip out the code that does itlol.Supporting the storage of metadata that age-restricted applications might hypothetically use in the future isn't the same as forcing users to prove their age. As it stands, age being stored in some JSON field on disk means any user with sudo can just put their age in there without having to prove anything to some corporation. Will you still try to dunk on Linux for offering a text field to be filled in my the system administrator (me) when Windows requires uploading a photo of a government ID to prove your age to the system administrator (Microsoft)?
>>735862165Erm, ackshually, it's the present of PC gaming. Its been viable since 2019, even.
>>735864075>proton is doing more workbut also less work if you consider windows shit like filter drivers slowing down IO>>735866615Statistics&Benchmarking: F, see me after class
>>735883324Why don't you leave all the lights in your house turned on at all times?
>>735881076>get any mod that requires additional DLL and you have to manually add override command to game's launch argumentsThis is trivially easy for anyone who actually belongs in front of a keyboard, and thus it makes for a nice idiot filter.Unfortunately, it may no longer be required for some mods in the future: >>>/vg/561749326
>>735886307its not copegames that were bottlenecked by the syncro thing gained a big performance boostsome up to 800%
>>735880337Hilariously outdated image
>>735862165Does Linux run nVidia's faggotry well yet?Can't move unless the entire nVidia zoo moves with me.
>>735892629the driver worksidk about reflex and the other stuff that nivdia haslinux does have a shadowplay alternative that works pretty well
>>735881076>get any mod that requires additional DLL and you have to manually add override command to game's launch argumentsIt is unfortunate that a small security bonus gets eroded because normalfags want one click modding.
>>735862165is linux gay ? if yes at what percentage are we speaking
>>735862165I installed fagux on one of my laptops but>scrolling with touchpad works when it feels like it>zooming in a picture zoomed the whole desktop >theme sometimes resets after restarting the system>usb stick is recognized most of the timesmall shit like this hapeens from time to time, it's annoyingstill, I like the system and keeping it on that machine, W11 got really annoying
>>735893084fagux? what a queer distro choice
>>735862165Still cannot run Javelin, EAC, Vanguard, Battleye, XIGNCODE3, PunkBuster, nProtect, ACE.Still cannot run more than 50% of DENUVO games.Still cannot run industry standard software.
>>735893084sounds like youre using some shitty decades old DEgo download something that supports KDE plasma
>>735862165And that's a good news. Linux has to take over the gaming market and simply the UI, if they want to spread far and wide.
>>735893252it is plasma
>>735893471yeah idk sounds like your touchpad is fuckyyou can try playing around with the settings for it i guess
>>735893218I already use Linux. No need to sell it to me.
>>735893562touchpad works fine on windows, the laptop is only few months old
>>735863790I feel I should mention this, but the current master branch of mesa reports itself as 26.1.0-devel so that likely means they're using a git snapshot and not a stable release
>>735866615Um, anon. Did you actually read that chart properly? That one isn't performance, it's memory usage. Higher is not better.
>>735862215No you're not.
>>735867345Uselessly allocated application memory is wasted memory since it can't be reused for kernel-level cacheStop fucking allocating so much memory if you don't actually need to
>>735863493>modern>released over half a decade agoLOL
>>735862215clinging to the past like that is not viablealready the best gpu you can buy for it is 4 years old
>>735892845Depends which aspect you mean. Gnome for example is 1000% gay
>>735897564I think the reactos guys made a breakthrough on windows GPU drivers recently, so it might be possible to port the mesa stack sooner or later and just leverage the proprietary drivers for memory allocation
>>735895652>>modernWho are you quoting?Did you forget to take your meds again?
>>735862165yeah ok
works on my machine...
>>735862165I already set up my new laptop with Windows 11 LTSC. I don't want to go to the trouble yet another OS reset.
>>735866376Why would I give a fuck? I have 64gbI want things to work, and they don't on Linux whereas on Windows they do when you disable updates
>>735903512Set up a dual boot, Newfriend.
>>735905346If LTSC is already safe to use, what would I gain from installing SteamOS?
Winjeet is going to be history once steam os gets released
>>735904536if you haven't built up resentment towards windows over the past decade then idk what to tell you
>>735905926The respect of your peers
>>735904536What are you talking about? Outside of applications that deceptively utilize kernel level malware for unknown purposes, GNU/Linux based OSes generally have better "Windows" compatibility support now than NT.Running Microsoft's OS connected to a network without security updates is an exceptionally bad idea. If you can't trust an OS vendor you shouldn't use their OS.
>>735904536>play vidya on windows>stuttering and delayed frames>crashes>driver timeouts>graphical glitches that don't appear on the linux version>play vidya on linux>it just works
>>7358928456 or 7%
>>735862165I refuse to ever use Linux solely because everyone who talks about it is an insufferable faggot.
>>735862165Linuxbros... Denuvo won't block once they rely on ring-0 access r-right...?
>>735907752Funny it works on my machine
>>735905926I think your earlier post may have been interpreted as "I'm interested in Linux but..." because you bothered to post in this thread instead of simply not posting like someone with no interest in the topic would normally do in general. Of course that logic doesn't apply to Linux gaming threads because it's well known that there is an entire subculture of gamers whose entire personality is "I don't use Linux" (and now they'll try to whataboutism their way out of their shame by saying diehard Linux users' personalities revolve around Linux, as if being excited about a niche thing is anywhere near as pathetic as the opposite).
>>735909990I was actually excited for SteamOS as an alternative (re: exit ramp) to the increasingly troublesome Windows OS. Now that I know I can run an LTSC variant as a blank slate, my excitement has deescalated. I am still curious about SteamOS's advantages in the bear future.
>>735892549That image itself is also hilariously outdated
>>735862165Cachy just killed themselves. What distro do I go for now?
>windows starts losing >suddenly linux is required to have age verificationhmmmmm
The future of gaming is either windows or a windows clone (IF ReactOS will ever be completed one day) linux it's just for enthusiasts or mentally ill people
>>735911546>The future of gaming is either windows or a windows cloneThen there is no future of gaming
>>735862165It shouldn't even be about gaming, imagine using fucking windows in 2026 when you have any form of tech literacy at all. Literally handicaping yourself because "it's just convenient"
>>735910869it still works on my machine
>>735911546If you think Linux is a useless toy, you will absolutely not enjoy using React.
>>735911743windows just works*
>>735911801ReactOS anon, React is web tech and the future of windows
>>735911617Yes and I always come back to Windows because I don't want to troubleshooting some bullshit to make games that works just fine on windows.Only enthusiasts likes troubleshooting and I get it that can be fun for them but for me and the other people that are even less tech savvy Windows is the best option.Just use Windows 10 Iot LTSC.>>735911801I know ReactOS can't be used but if one day it will be completed we would have an open source version of Windows that would be better for everyone.
>>735911405the complete lack of understanding about anything related to linux you need to have to unironically write this post is astounding, and you did it confidently, too
>>735862215Based
>>735911960>Just use Windows 10 Iot LTSC.the joke writes itself
>>735892845Linux community has a lot of trannies
>>735910869they didn'tignore all the age spergouts until shit actually happens
>>735911595The current state of gaming is an unmaintained win32 compatibility layer from a disinterested mega-corporation running on their VMS clone.Or a win32 compatibility layer and native games on a modern and well supported Free UNIX foundation.The last release of Windows was 27 years ago. It is time to stop pretending it is still around just because Microsoft's marketing department chose to brand their Business OS following their previous desktop product.
>>735913587The "shit" has already happened, it's all the US states/countries passing the age laws. Distros attempting to follow the law aren't the problem.
>>735914292no, by shit actually happening i mean cachyos specifically enforcing ituntil then it's just speculation because some retard got mad
>>735862215Mint is basically a newer, better W7.
>>735911546>linux it's just for enthusiasts or mentally ill people>posts an OS that does less than linuxretard
>>735862165>>735863273>>735915576No it’s the worst version of gaming. Proton is flawed for real gaming experience.
>>735915835explain? you sound like that retard that thinks running games through proton is illegitimate
>>735910869
>>735915835Please explain how the combination of GNU/Linux Native + Proton (Valve maintained win32) is worse than the status quo of gaming on NT where there are no native games and everything runs through Microsoft's legacy compatibility layer (deprecated and unmaintained).NT is pretty clearly on its way out. Not even Microsoft uses it internally anymore for serious workloads, and only one GPU vendor even really bothers with drivers for it.
>>735913587>ignore the boiling
>>735917805>>735916690https://discuss.cachyos.org/t/age-verification-systemd/26316
>>735862165I wish the CachyOS logo didn't suck ass.
>>735917805The temperature of the water will continue to rise until morale improves
>>735914292Yeah, the laws themselves are dumb legislation being purchased by Facebook so they can pass the responsibility off to the OS vendor.The patches to add a stupid select box at user account creation isn't that big of a deal either.The big problem comes when Apple or Microsoft create a patented age verification system, or license one from another closed vendor who force you to share personally identifying information, that becomes the de-facto standard, and then there is functionally a law enforcing the duopoly and creating a barrier to entry.Which also conveniently works for de-anonymizing anyone at any time.
>>735918127Time to leave the old internet in favour of LoRa Mesh Networks.
>>735918489HAPPY MEEEEAAAAAALLLL
>>735918127Contact your local representative and get them to pass a law against age verification on the grounds that it is PII and therefore a privacy/security concern.
highly unlikely. with all the troons and mentally ill people at every corner
>>735915754If you actually read you would understand that I posted ReactOS as an example nigger
>>735866376I literally had Windows ran out of RAM and blue screen on me today.If I could double click all my executables and have them work out of the box without fiddling with Proton I'd be using Linux on my main machine.
>>735922714Okay post the actual windows clone, dumb faggot. Where is it?
>>735923741>If I could double click all my executables and have them work out of the box without fiddlingYou can't do that on NT 11, and its compatibility layer doesn't have the configuration to let you switch things so they will work. In the past devs could patch around NT's terrible win32 compatibility, but now Microsoft's enshitification is outpacing developer work arounds and just throwing hardware at the problem isn't practical anymore.DOS compatibility on NT eventually got bad enough open source tools took over.Same thing happening now with running Windows software on NT's compatibility layer.
>>735862165
>>735925120@grok is this true
Am I right in thinking that LMDE and the latest version of regular Mint will be functionally identical for gaming on an AMD GPU?
>>735925120
No Fitgirl repacks on Linux, not gonna use it
>>735926126works on my machine
>>735918002Why?
>>735867865>installs artixDamn it was that easy, openrc chads keep winning
i'm able to play fighting games, poe, ff14, and a bunch of other shit just fine on linux there is literally no reason to use windows unless you have to use adobe stuff or something
>>735925558amd works flawlessly on linux so yeah, i'm running arch on a 9070xt and it's smooth as fuck
>>735862165I like Powershell. Has Linux converted all Powershell commands?
>>735862165Was gonna make a thread but then I noticed there already was one.Big news for Wine gamers, now WINEDLLOVERRIDES will be applied automatically if neededSource: https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/6527
>>735928295>convertNo, sounds stupid, but you can install literal powershell and use it as your shell instead of bash.
the only thing keeping me from switching to linux are the chinese anticheats from shitty coomer gachas that don't work on it, like ACE
>>735928447it says that it was not merged into the master
>>735928597It's on another commit, scroll down
>>735928447That was closed and rejected for good reason, though.
I have been hearing that for over 10 years now
Linux will never be mainstream. Simply because windows users are too retarded to learn how ot use another OS.
>>735928676Oh. Actually, what got merged is better.tl;dr if a DLL is in a game's folder and the vendor isn't listed Microsoft in that DLL's versioning info, it will be loaded as if the mode is n;b.
>>735928993>Linux will never be mainstreamAnd that's a good thing!Linux currently has the exact amount of attention and traction necessary for it to get progressively better and better while Windows keeps going to shit. Going mainstream would undoubtedly result in a worse Linux.
>>735928993>Linux will never be mainstream.Only because every time there is a successful mainstream Linux distribution, it magically stops being "Linux" for some strange reason.
>>735928979Linux wasn't making those gains 10 years ago
>>735929781why do chinks hate the penguin?
>>735929951Most Asians are horrendous when it comes to PC literacy in general They produce real aces but their normies are just awful
>>735926126Since when? I use them all the timeSys wine installs, just doubleclick the exeThen add the installed game to steam for proton and big picture
>>735863206>The rtx 6000 pro straight up rapes anything AMD will ever produce."ever" is a pretty strong word but there is definitely some catching up they need to dowas mad they didn't do a flagship so swapped to this from my 7900xtx that I still have nearby just in case
>>735892629basically, yeahnvidia cares about Linux and 595 fixed a few of the only major issues I was seeing with a very small number of games
>>735929951their government may have some involvement
>thread is still up after more than a day and isn't even half-way to the bump limitJust let it die...Bump
>>735926126What are you on about, those just work
>>735929581 Because the second it gets normie-friendly it’s suddenly “based on Linux” instead of Linux™. Android? “Not real Linux.” ChromeOS? “Not real Linux.” SteamOS when it gets popular? You’ll see the same shit. Truth is, the kernel already won. It just doesn’t count unless you have to compile your own printer driver and argue about init systems on a forum from 2009.
Did you disclose what age bracket you belong to yet, /v/?
>>735936301how?im on gentoo
>>7359363010-100
I won't use linux because linux people are insufferable and that's enough reasonAlso they're valve shills, which is a much better reason, fuck valve, off of one corporate cock and onto the next.
>>735936398OK retard
>>735936398shut the fuck up timmy epic games will never be a real store
>>735910869It was over before it began for faggyos.
>>735916690why don't people just put 01/01/1900?
>>735938165why would you lie to your computer?
