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I dont get it. What am i missing out?
Why am i not having fun?
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It Gets Good After Eight Hours™
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one or some of the following factors are contributing to your dislike of this kino
>low iq
>an excess of melanin
>zoomer
>tendie
>homoerotic inclinations
now we just have to figure out which of these applies to you, op.
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>>736488257
You are not having fun because you are not playing kingdom of amalur
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>>736488257
only people that like to grind mmos find it fun
congratulations
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>>736488549
but that game was fun for 15 hours at most. i have 105 in CD and spend every second of my free time playing since launch
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>>736488257
Not having fun is the typical experience when playing Crimson Desert.
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>>736488676
YLAGR
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are there any nude and sex mods yet? I don't care about the gameplay I just want sex sex sexy sex
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it seems good performance wasnt all that was missing from modern releases
its not fun because the game doesnt offer any real experience other than seeing a big fantasy landscape and the laziest combat known to man
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>>736488764
post pc specs or ps5 with a timestamp, tendiefat.
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>>736488623
Each to their own
i find it more engaging and charming than ubisoft game design
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>>736488829
>ubisoft game design
fucking kek you didn't play it tranny, hope IGN is paying you nicely to disparage a game that further buckbroke the western industry.
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>>736488257

The game isn't for everyone.
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>>736488860
>shit story
>bland characters and art style
>300 retarded activities
>bread and butter is killing bandits/human enemies

It's ubisoft
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>>736488936
post playtime and axe wound with a timestamp
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>everyone attacking OP for having an opinion
>not a single argument as to why the game is fun so far
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>>736488932
>Using starfield memes

>>736488910
>game that's nothing like tw3 or morowind
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>>736488996
OP didn't actually play it.
>>736489009
it's modified from the also-accurate E33 version.
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combat isnt satisfying
movement and traversal isnt satisfying
story isnt interesting
genuinely the only thing i can see people latching onto with this game is "number go up"
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>>736488995
Cope and seethe
Because it literally is ubisoft game design
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>>736488257
Personally I'm having a blast, it's like this game was made for me. Runs at a butter smooth 60fps too.
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>>736489058
riveting post, surely you will now show your playtime to prove you aren't a buckbroken mutilated failed male homosexual or a tendie.
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Crimson desert is the most "videogamey" AAA title in years
If you dont like it maybe you dont like action games, or games in general
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>>736489054
But i distinctly remember same cope being used for SF
>it's not bland or boring it's for the white people!!
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>>736488257
Play for another 20 hours. Eventually you will just convince yourself that, despite being dogshit, you're too far gone to drop.
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>>736489125
what amount of playtime would you like to see?
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>>736489141
why are you faggots so disingenuous? not a soul on earth ever called pajeetfield a White game you lying piece of subhuman shit.
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>>736489125
>>736488995
Crimson shills are seething
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>>736489202
DesertGODS bent you faggots over and raped you and you want to say WE are seething? KEK!
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>>736489009
>>game that's nothing like tw3 or morowind

you can only comprehend things on a basic black and white level, but that was expected.
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>>736489187
>not a soul on earth ever called pajeetfield a White game
So you are new on /v/
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>>736489301
gcj trannies and paid marketers are not /v/
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>>736489252
>Dude I fucking won so hard that’s why I’m having a meltdown over the most basic criticism
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>>736489125
>>736489182
im waiting for your reply
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>>736489182
>>736489352
i didn't reply because you're a retard, what kind of question is this? how the fuck am i supposed to know YOUR playtime?
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>>736489298
I don’t know
you tell me how CD (a ubisoft game) is like either of those games that are known for being soulful and having very interesting writing and coherent worlds
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>>736489419
what amount of playtime would make my opinion valid?
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>>736488257
Because you're playing Ubislop: Gook Edition.
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>>736489349
>the most basic criticism
i have plenty of criticisms for the game, the difference is i am actually playing it and not regurgitating talking points from the antishill discord without playing it.
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>>736489326
lol
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>>736489448
>beating around the bush
>no playtime attached
i accept your concession, buckbrokenfaggot-kun.
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>>736489469
Ubisoft criticism is pretty valid, and shilling is pretty rampant when you’re comparing it with morrowind and running the “white man’s game” meme
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>>736489571
>Ubisoft criticism is pretty valid
stopped reading there. playtime. now.
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>>736489528
there is no amount of playtime i could post that would make you consider my opinions valid, it would be a waste of time for me
im asking you what amount of playtime would
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>story is shit and gives you no motivation to explore the world
>combat vs regular enemies is just holding R1. Combos and skills are there just for flavor
>bosses are stat checks that exist only to force you to grind gear upgrades
>quest design makes me feel like im playing an early 2000s MMO

Go ahead, insult me.
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>>736489420
>CD
>ubisoft game

either drunk or ragebait. clearly haven't played CD.
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>>736489607
>Trust me bro killing 700 bandits in CD is very different from doing the same in AC Valhalla

It’s a third-person action game
it shouldn’t be this hard to explain why i am wrong, right?
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>>736489658
These are all legitimate complaints about the game except
>bosses are stat checks that exist only to force you to grind gear upgrades
I still like it
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>>736489678
You haven't played any AC rpgs id assume
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>>736489643
>>736489738
concessions accepted. antishills haven't played the game, we already knew that.
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>>736489843
>you have to play nu ubislop to say it's more ubislop !!!
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>>736489843
why do you refuse to answer the questions?
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>>736488910
>Gothic II
Why is it compared to this?
Gothic is a small world with interconnected quests, half of the NPCs you see are fairly important and they have their own schedules. A lot of quests aren't just fetch stuff. One of the first quests you get in Gothic II involves just getting an Orc weapon, and you can do it multiple ways.
What exactly does Crimson Desert offer here? I've found quests that are very basic. None of the NPCs seem to be interested in each other. There's just packs of random no names. I'm exploring and climbing mountains and there seems to be no threat at all. I have a feeling people praising this game to death didn't actually play Gothic II, they just found it on the list of best old RPGs of all time and decided to include it in there.
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>>736489906
was quicker for me to tab over and take this picture than it was to type this sentence. what's your excuse? post your playtime or don't reply to me again
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>>736489954
is that your answer to my question?
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>>736489750
not even that anon but the bosses are just all over the place in quality
>guy on top of the hill, last boss of chapter 2 can be trivialized by blocking his extremely telegraphed run in slash for a free punish over and over
>random drill guy no name robot has an ultra move that is just 5 full hp dives over and over that are unblockable, undodgeable, unable to be jumped, dodging only evades half the attack and stun combos you into a full second one

like, it would be a problem if you couldnt literally outheal all damage by just spamming the healing button off cooldown, so its not "difficulty", it just means that its literally just skyrim in terms of
>"how deep are the mechanics"
because it can be completely reduced down to holding r1 and mashing healing items off cooldown, which you can hold an insane amount of
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>>736489954
>you don't get it dude,!!! i just can't answer why this ubislop is different from the usual ubislop
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xbox store says i have played it for 1,4 day
im still waiting for it to be fun
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>>736490125
i'm not a homosexual so i haven't even played a ubisoft game in decades nor would i ever even consider playing one
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>>736490187
>>736489993
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>>736490187
Untrue since you’re posting screenshots of your crimson desert playtime
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Im 10 hours in and about to drop it.
So far its been a pretty boring game
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>>736490214
>>736490259
you lost and got raped, gcjtroons
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>>736489058
>combat isnt satisfying
You're dogshit and probably retarded.
>genuinely the only thing i can see people latching onto with this game is "number go up"
What fucking number? There are no numbers going up you moron. I take it back, you're not dogshit, you didn't even play the fucking game.
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>>736490187
So you magically know this game is nothing like that Ubislop?
lel
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>>736490284
why are you afraid?
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>>736489349
Bro, you should've seen them when I suggested gyro aiming would be beneficial in a game where you're constantly having to precisely point at things. They acted like gyro aiming was satan and no one has ever used it except me. They are completely mindbroke.
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>what if Witcher 3 had the same bad combat but also a worse world, characters and quests
Truly for the hyperboreans
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>>736490315
He’s not afraid, this is literally his job. He’s paid to argue with you about crimson desert. Were the fucking idiots that are humoring him
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>>736490264
>>736490135
so which is it, lads? >>736488436
my moneys on melanin for the consolefag and zoomer for the 10 hours guy.
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Auto-parry never seems to work for me, I just get molested as soon as I start focusing.
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>>736488996
That's the MO of shills in this thread. You can bring up all the flaws and personal reasons you didn't like the game and all they do is claim you're a discord raider to avoid all discussion. These people know this game has flaws but they act like it's their glorious leader who is above reproach.
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>>736490425
hehe yeah
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>>736490425
this except the opposite. i am doing a righteous deed posting about a game i enjoy to counter the paid westoid industry shills who want to see it fail.
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>>736489130
It literally isn't. That's like saying the sims is the most like a video game. Nintendo has a monopoly on games that still feel like video games.
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>>736490536
the tendoid reveals itself. you faggots just can't help yourselves can you?
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>making a game/game's enjoyment about race
the absolute state
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>>736489125
>>736490286
even if its a "the game gets good after 10 hours" kind of thing, the first 10 hours are comically retarded
literally just like 15 random tasks with zero narrative to connect them
the first big "clear out the bandit camp" mission you get is the mine, which has you killing literally 200 of the same enemy
the first few bosses are totally trivial, and the rest of them have so much bullshit it encourages you to just walk off or cheese it with healing items

the worst offender item is that the combat is extremely boring for the first 10 hours, it is literally pressing one button as you spend half of the entire time in combat invulnverable in a canned finisher animation that would otherwise be reserved for like, a perfect parry counter in an assassins creed game, or like a boss finisher in another game
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>>736490474
Why would an entire industry go out of its way to hire people to shit on a game with no competitive release on their end? Is it so hard for you to imagine we just didn't like the game? You're clearly a proCD shill. Every CD thread is full of them. Or should I say, full of you working overtime.
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>>736490676
>zero narrative to connect them
game is not for you
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>>736490757
only leftoids are this disingenuous
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>>736490563
Yes, I play nintendo. I've also played CD on my ps5. Why can't I do both? Are you too poor to afford two consoles? What I said is true. Nintendo is still making games that feel like video games. Some rudderless time waster doesn't feel like a fucking video game any more than the sims does, you retard. This game is just the sims for males.
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>>736488257
>why isn’t my free to play Korean mmo that was turned into a 70 dollar single player game good?
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>>736490849
>Are you too poor to afford two consoles?
i'm so not poor and so high iq that i own zero consoles from the past 2 generations, actually
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>>736490896
Yeah, congrats. You spend $3k on a pc you can't play on the shitter. You're so smart.
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>>736490849
Buying a console is a poorfag thing. That’s why every trailer trash inbred and ghetto dweller has a console. Spending money poorly isn’t a sign of wealth
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>>736490949
why would i play vidya on the shitter, that's prime time to call people like you faggots
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>>736488257
you're too old unc
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>>736490957
It's actually because we aren't nerds and want our wives to occasionally want to fuck us. PC gaming is popular among lonely losers who don't have any real life friends or a family that cares about their mental health. I've never seen a PC gamer act hinged. They're all fucking crazy.
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>>736491023
You're right. We got to play real sandboxes like gmod and not some korean life simulator for faggots.
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>>736491112
>I've never seen a PC gamer act hinged. They're all fucking crazy.
PCchads don't associate with riffraff like you
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>>736490783
>valid critique
>"game is not for you"
Why is it too much to ask for a captivating story? I'm still considering buying this game, but I just finished Death Stranding 2 and the story was incredible there. The art direction was so unique and it all looked thought out and hand crafted.
Crimson Desert looks like it's just 100% gameplay and everything else is an afterthought. Art direction looks incredibly generic and bland to me, story looks non existent and the world looks like it's so big that it's just to say "we have a gigantic world with a billion quests in it" where it's just quantity over quality.
I of course say all this without having played it myself, but like I said, I'm still considering buying it, I just think that if the story is as weak as assume it is, then the gameplay (as fun as it looks) isn't enough to captivate me.
I could even look past the generic art direction if the story was good. Like he first Dragon Age game. It was totally generic visually, but the game and story was fun.
Crimson Desert just looks like all gameplay and low quality quests in a world that's too big.
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>>736491232
If you're such a chad then why do you never go outside?
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Saying everything except why the game is actually good.
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>>736490352
But CDs combat is vastly superior to Witcher 3 in literally all aspects, a game with combat that is bad even by Sony movie game standards
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>>736491278
hey fuck you it's not my fault winter never ends where i live
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>>736491261
>"game is not for you"
Is the most valid thing to say
like DS is not for people who want constant action and something heigh octane
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>>736488910
who snuck witcher 3 in this image lmao
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>>736491261
The jokes on you. The gameplay is shit too. It might look fun when you watch powergamers play it. When you're actually playing it yourself it feels so fucking bad to play. I've never played a game that controlled so badly.
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>>736489843
>anti-shills
So fucking funny that you had to make up this word to defend this game from all criticism
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>>736491395
did blud just admit he's dogshit at video games
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>>736491420
i started using it last year when an army of browns and tendies seethed about E33 here 24/7/365, it just applies to CD as well.
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>>736491431
Hey retard, try going from running to walking without coming to a complete stop first. They've known how analog sticks worked since mario 64. Why doesn't CD?
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>>736488257
>What am i missing out?
Nothing, despite what the shills might say the game is pretty mid
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>>736491395
>the gameplay is shit too

It really isn’t. Most of the bosses are really fun and varied, and the ability to combine skills and movesets gives it an aRPG feel when fighting hordes of enemies. The combination is very fun and actually quite unique, typically aRPG bosses are AIDS while fighting mobs in Souls tends to be the low point of the experience. This game solves both.
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>>736491493
It didn't. E33 was a good game with good story and good combat. This game is some mid-at-best single player mmo grindfest. It deserves its hate.
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>>736491524
Hey retard, have you not been playing vidya for enough decades to adjust to a new control scheme in 5 minutes?
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>>736491571
Now try jumping to a platform without using your "jump here" button.
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>>736491591
post both E33 and CD playtime in the same image.
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>>736488436
Wrong, Elden Ring is my favorite game and I can't stand this slop, combat is total dogshit, exploration is boring and progression is a joke
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>>736491639
Why would I? Isn’t that what it’s there for?
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>>736491372
I think it can be a valid argument for something like a Kojima game as they're marmite games. You either love or hate them.
But is Crimson Desert really a "it's not for you" game? When it looks to me like a very generic fantasy game with lots of fun gameplay elements tacked on? It's just coming from Death Stranding 2 and then looking at Crimson Desert. I see fun in Crimson Desert, but I also see a massive lack of "why should I sink hours into this when 3/4 of what I've seen looks very bland"
>>736491395
Some of my good friends say the gameplay is fun and I trust them more than you. But I don't doubt the amount of different things you can do becomes a bit too much. And like I said, it looks like they just added vast amounts of stuff just to say "look at how much shit we have!"
But it is mostly the lack of story that has me holding back.
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>>736491593
Hey retard, did your bosses ever play a game before deciding to make this one? Again, can kliff go from running to walking without having to come to a complete stop first?
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>>736488910
Gothic my beloved
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>>736491493
if you love cd this much
Dude you'll actually love New AC games ngl
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Knew this game was garbage the moment ShillUp started shilling for it. Must be absolute horseshit. Glad I didn’t waste my money. Even the perennial review outlet shills like IGN etc couldn’t give it above a 7. You have to be a truly truly awful game to not even get a pity 7 from these, IIRC even Concord got that.
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>>736491678
ER being your favorite game only proves that you are one of those so i'm not sure how you thought this was a good reply
and for the record i do love Elden Ring but to call it your favorite game is zoomzoom shit
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>>736491591
I did enjoy E33’s story but pretending like it had “good gameplay” is pretty laughable. Fights in that game rapidly became a slog and it did not have a good sense of balance and progression by the midgame, systems were pretty half baked.
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>>736491645
I finished e33 at like 45 hours. I finished CD at 2 hours because I couldn't justify inflicting that punishment on myself for any longer.
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>>736488257
you aren't a soulless bugman that made this shit game his entire personality.
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>>736488910
>Gothic 2
>Witcher 3
>Morrowind
>Elin
>Crimson Desert
Retarded line up, those games have barely anything in common
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>>736491809
they're all good games (except W3)
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>>736490264
>So far its been a pretty boring game
Seeing as the game was originally supposed to be an MMO that tracks
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>>736491684
Yes, it's such fun traversal to have to physically look every place you want to jump. I was having a blast aiming at 20 platforms in a row so I wouldn't fall and have to start all over again.
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>>736491571
I really really really hate souls games because they're so fucking clunky. Sekiro was the only one I tried that had smooth, fast and responsive controls, but it still had the type of boss fights I dislike too. So good to hear this is different
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>>736488257
Probably a 4K issue
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>>736488257
it's boring and the story is complete ass
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>>736491850
>using targeted jump past the intro
lol, lmao
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But..but all the shills and spammed threads about CD said it's the best game ever made
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>>736489938
>Why is it compared to this?
Because its a shill campaign by retarded faggots doing it for free(tm) and actual corpo shills.
No one who actually plays shit like this ever played Gothic but they will play the remaster and then shitpost how it mogged Crimson Desert
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>>736491939
>spoiler
Good lord no
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>>736490783
what about all of the rest of the criticisms?
even skyrim is fun to wander around in if you ignore the story and just pick a direction
you find a point of interest in under a minute, and almost always it leads to a short dungeon with a couple traps, a couple encounters, a boss, and some kind of unique reward like a word wall or a quest or something, and even if the narrative is literally only
>random mercenary standing outside
>"hey will you help me save my friends from those bears"
>walk in and find nature grotto and a bunch of spriggans
there is still literally ANYTHING giving you a reason to explore it beyond "it might have my video game materials and give me experience points" or whatever

there's a lot of bad modern stories, but that doesnt mean stories are bad. fucking doom 2016 has a story that pushes you along and it is the most "gameplay game" of all time
crimson desert actively ignores it to such a degree it pulls you out of the experience

the puzzles have also been just extremely mobile game tier awful. zero inspiration, zero problem solving, frequently glitchy and broken/prone to softlocking/incompletable on secondary characters, etc
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>>736488910
Niggas just make shit up
>dude this new thing is just like some other cool thing
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>>736491756
They were only a slog if you took them on too early. The gameplay was theory crafting different builds with your pictos until you had a good build to wreck shit with. Each character could be played in so many different ways, and they were all viable.
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>story
>story
>where’s my narrative??
>we have to be better men
>I am a woman, hear me screech!
>dutch, I’d raise my wife’s son, even if he’s black
>ah yes that’s more like it. Even though all the gameplay here is yawn inducing surface level shit, having an engaging cinematic cutscene from a wannabe auteur film director where the cuck MC says an ESG line has now confirmed this as my “Game” of the Year
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>>736491995
I wish the game imposed more story-timed damage caps on you. As soon as you were able to limit break the game because laughably easy.
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>>736491891
Kind of necessary when they put you on a small platform and you need to press your run and jump combo (more buttons than you'd expect) before running off the edge.
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>>736488910
Elin was fun. That game had faster patches than CD kek
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>>736491978
Get ready for nonstop shilling for the remaster by people who will pretend to have played the originals when they were 20 on launch and how they have been gaming for 65 years etc etc etc.

I like the Gothic games but thank GOD I am not a super fan or something because whats to GENERAL GAMING DISCUSSION PLATFORMS is going to be rough for them.
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>>736491982
> you find a point of interest in under a minute, and almost always it leads to a short dungeon with a couple traps, a couple encounters, a boss, and some kind of unique reward like a word wall or a quest or something, and even if the narrative is literally only

CD is literally full of this, and the bosses you can find are 100x more fun to fight than anything in the entirety of Skyrim
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>>736492116
*whats coming to
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>>736492023
okay sure
But how about good art direction
and a custom character
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>>736488996
Glad I wasn't the only white male who noticed this.
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>>736492081
>shift W and Space are too many buttons for a running jump
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>>736490783
I had my first ten hours and he is totally correct. Every encounter in this game is nonsensical. The opening is down right skitzo bouncing between arm wrestling / chimney sweep tutorials to the shitty batman cutscene helmet 5 minutes after getting scooped up out of a river. A pantheon of glazers front load you with magic powers that don't do anything and then you are right back to pissing around on horse back being forced to listen to retards who have nothing important or interesting to say. The game is a giant yellow line of bullshit chores the koreans didn't trust me to learn organically. Narrative doesn't matter that much in an open world sandbox but this game is jam packed with extremely boring dialogue in-between bouts of stupid shit while everyone around you is violently incompetent while sucking you off for being da grey mein. I don't even fucking know what a greymane actually is, Kliff just stands there nodding. It's a genuinely baffling starting experience and I can't imagine anyone playing through it in testing and approving it
>>736491261
Honestly I wish I had my 70 bucks back. This game is like pulling teeth some times. I never thought I would appreciate read dead more after playing this. The game actively rips you out of any flow state you could have had. This game has a fast forward button but no skip. They want you to watch this garbage and it's painful. Final straw was picking up one of your friends and they make you wait while he slowly hovels on a crutch to your horse so you can ride for 5 minutes.
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>>736492023
>being a disingenuous nigger
Maybe people wouldn't expect an actual narrative if the game didn't open as it does
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>>736492060
At that point, you were already basically done with it anyway. There's no way you're beating a boss like simon at a low level even if you're cheesing the game. It still depends on the enemies you're choosing to fight.
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>>736492023
Ah yes, the good old /v/ autist who can only see things in black and white and not understand why people have complaints a game of this size/caliber has so little thought put into the story (one of the main features in rpgs)
If you want 100% gameplay, go play pong or tetris
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>>736492175
I agree custom character would have been cool, I just find it funny the anti-movie game board suddenly has a problem with a game that largely puts its narrative on the back burner but has much deeper and more fun gameplay systems in return.

Also, CDs story really isn’t that bad (after the first 10 hours kek lol). They clearly struggled with how they should get the game going initially but it does become something easy to follow with an obvious narrative and specific characters. It’s not something that’s going to really emotionally impact you or something but it’s serviceable for justifying the gameplay mechanics you unlock and doesn’t have any hyper political shit jammed into it which makes it superior to any recent game with a narrative that is covered in western industry standard garbage
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I can see how people who don't know anything about art might think that CD has no art direction
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>>736488257
>from the creators of fake japanese games™
>now we brought to you fake western games™
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>>736488257
Its basically dragon's dogma but made with passion, soul and love
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>>736491678
>Shitskins Ring
Proved his point little rollsloppa.
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>>736492342
good art direction is when contrast!
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>>736492342
It has art direction, my complaint is just that it's a very generic one. It's a complaint I could look past if it had an engaging story, but it doesn't.
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>>736492405
Funny feels like a shitty mobile game like black desert
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>>736492342
white crow sex mod when
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>>736492189
Sorry, this game was designed for controller. The devs themselves recommended it. Having to push two face buttons at the same time does feel kind of bad on a controller. If only they allowed you to just press the stick forward and jump and make kliff not walk like an old man with lumbago. Why does pressing forward and jump impart no momentum to kliff. You know you can jump forward from a standstill in real life, right? You don't need to confer walking momentum to jumping in real life, you know?
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>>736492336
> I just find it funny the anti-movie game board suddenly has a problem with a game that largely puts its narrative on the back burner
Well if you are going to do then do it well
otherwise why bother
there's no long rides or long conversations in ER or btow
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>>736492342
Where is it? All I see is some generic western looking shit
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>>736488748
You play as a male so...no?
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>>736492550
>didn't play the game award
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>>736492342
her model looks bad
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>>736488257
>played for over 15 hours
>do story and exploration
>do more exploration because that's what everybody talks about
>still not having fun and some puzzles can't even be solved right now
>uninstall
You never get a clear answer as to what's supposed to be good. "Just explore", "You need to play more", "Skill issue" or similar nonsense, the typical bullshit none arguments.
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>>736492342
Nice Skyrim mod, where can I get it ?
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It's literally just an improved BotW.

I'll give you an idea of what I mean without even bringing up the fucking jetpack, flying dragon or eggman tier mecha you can pilot. Here's two things it does where its contemporaries fail.

>Exploration
Let's use BotW. The game basically encourages exploration, it's the main focus of the game. But the minute you hit 10 hours, you instantly realize "see that cool flying dragon? Yea it's shrine bait", "Oh a mokoblin camp? Let me waste my 3 good weapons to unlock a chest that gives me x10 arrows"
Crimson Desert now:
>flying around this seaside fisherman village
>pirate boat in the distance
>can't get enough air to fly to it (you can fly in the game)
>see a row boat on the shore (you can row boats in the game)
>need to avoid mines the pirates have around the ship
>avoid them but now the pirate ship is firing canon balls at me
>get onto the ship
>fight a ragtag band of catfish helmet wearing pirates
>find a treasure chest
>it's a pirate hat that alerts me to treasure through the feather on the hat glowing
My gameplay wasn't "I bet that's a korok seed", my gameplay was "Oh, a waterfall, lemme try to stab attack through it. Oh, there's a hidden treasure room with an armor piece in it". "Oh, is my pirate hat is glowing, let me try to push this wall, oh secret passage, oh treasure chest with a sword"

Then the even cooler part about the game. Remember Kaer Morhen and how cool it looked in scale? Well Crimson Desert has that and I can climb up them. Infact, I can sneak into royal manors in town by scaling the side, opening a window and climbing in.

The open world in this game mogs your favorite adventure game and it's not even close. The same people who seethe over the "MMO tier story" are the same fags who think collecting x10 crickets in BotW is a good quest or who think watching a youtube Vaati video where he headcanons a story out of Elden Rings "Dios mio Maria from Shartsville... I'm sorry" tier cutscenes
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>everything has to le subvert expectation and be grimdark or it's le generic!!
No. That's a midwit take. It's actually harder to pull off classical beauty and make it stand out.
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>>736492713
niggers be like classical beauty and its megascans and BDO assets lmaooooooo
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>>736492486
how do you know what a game you didn't play feels like?
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>>736492648
That sounds good and all, but if the game has no story, then I don't have any incentive to do any of that stuff.
Big fantasy rpg with no story
>>736492713
Again with the "I can only see black and white arguments!!! It has to be one extreme or the other!!!"
The game's art direction looks incredibly generic, but it doesn't look bad.
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>>736491850
As soon as you unlock aerial force palm and the grappling hook jump you don't have to do that anymore. I skip past all the bing bing wahoo segments between abysses. If you miss a jump you just grapple back up in midair.

>>736492514
It's definitely not made for controller. Half the game requires precise pointing or camera angling and only a mouse can do that.
Talking to NPCs, interacting with objects, fighting golem-type enemies where you have to aim the axiom force at their core precisely, taming mounts, moving objects around for puzzles, it's all way easier with an actual pointer device.
And as you said, the number of buttons the game demands just doesn't function well on a typical controller. I've read tons of posts about controller users accidentally jumping when they mean to interact with an NPC or something? Completely bizarre. The controller recommendation is just wrong, simple as
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>>736492871
Do you need to stick your dick into a blender before you can tell that's a bad idea?
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im at chapter 3 and the game sucks when the fuck do i get to play as the whore and make her naked
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>>736492648
This. I think non whites don’t get the appeal of this, hence the need for a “story” to keep them going rather than just exploration and progression for the sake of it (because it’s fun)
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>>736492934
i could think its a bad idea, sure, but would i be qualified to say something feels like sticking my dick in a blender if i haven't done it?
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>>736488436
t. Gay nigger BR zoomer
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I just reached chapter 3 and so far the games has been nothing fetch quests and generic "walk from A to B and kill a few bandits" quests

Im still waiting for the moment where everything "clicks" and i start enjoying the game.
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>>736492713
Looks like a soulless UE5 demo
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>>736492648
based sentient anon
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>>736493069
>I just reached chapter 3 and so far the games has been nothing fetch quests and generic "walk from A to B and kill a few bandits" quests

Well the game was meant to be an MMO so...
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>>736488257
I'm sorry you fell for the shill campaign. Its mmo gookslop masquerading as an action RPG. It was never designed to be enjoyable for people with a soul, or white skin.
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>>736493064
took this to btfo someone a couple days ago, here you go >>736375623
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>>736493108
When does it get good then?
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Here's my 2 cents
Good exploration is very subjective
Like what are you looking for?
Look new place, item, power or story or something else
I thought exploration was the best part of ER but half the board hates it
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>if it has realistic graphics it's generic
No.
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>>736492904
When I saw them recommend controller on steam I almost fell out of my chair. This game screams kbm. Why else in the world would they make walking and running binary choices and not rely on the angle of the thumbstick? Why have to constantly use modifier buttons to do things that should be done with a single press. And the aiming shit, like you said. When I recommended they include gyro control to help close the gap for controller players, I was told by CDshills that gyro is somehow bad and no one uses it except me. You can't have discussions with these people. Thanks for giving me an actual reply.
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>>736492648
>It's literally just an improved BotW.
That's basically what it boils down to yeah. BOTW and Elden Ring are like a whole console generation old now, so this game is like the next-gen evolution of that, is the best way to describe it. Just a fuller, deeper, broader, technically more impressive, better-looking synthesis of those games + some more cool stuff. I think we got so used to the flood of rehashes, movie games, and trend-chasing indies, we forgot that new generations are supposed to bring evolved forms of the previous gen's best games. It's like comparing Halo to Halo 3.
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>>736493168
Nigga this board has been taking the piss off flying cubes in the sky for a decade ow
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>>736493170
>This game screams kbm.
to a retard, maybe. it's a fucking third person action game.
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>>736493148
That's the best part, it doesn't
Or if you're a gook then you're already doing the good part
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>>736493017
That sounds like a ringing endorsement... for the fucking Sims. Men are goal oriented, not frittering away an afternoon oriented.
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>>736493069
Unironically avoid doing specific quests and just run around for a bit and see what you can find. The game clicked for me when I just started to run off in a direction and try to find/figure out secrets I came across.

>find some random estate mansion
>guards chuck me out when I try to enter
>sneak in by jumping onto the roof
>find a secret passage way into the basement with unique loot and backstory on the characters in the house
>come back to this place later and all the guards are slaughtered
>backstory of the boss I fight in this mission is actually interesting and I only know it because I went to this location first and found out about it with no prompting

There’s actually some interesting plots and story in the game but it’s all background stuff you can miss if you’re not exploring around and finding shit.
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I want to like this game, but it's the equivalent of the musician saying about joining a band.
>The music
>The money
>The hang
You have to be able to have 2/3 of those for the band to be worth joining.
In video games it's:
>The gamplay
>The art/graphics
>The story
Crimson desert only ticks one of those boxes which I find lacking in a big rpg. Gameplay arguably being the most important, but again having a lacking story in an rpg is pretty bad.
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>>736493245
your ethnicity, maybe. when a White man sees a mountain in the distance he wants to climb it.
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>>736488257
I started having fun at the 50 hour mark. Crazy i know.
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>>736493245
But the Sims 2 is a peak white game.
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>>736493220
Then why do you spend 90% of the time autistically pointing at things with your mouse?
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>>736493168
Do you think paintings by Robert kinkade are as good as those by N.C. wyeth and Edgar payne?
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>>736493170
I am an ultra giga shill with 300 quintillion hours in this game and I get paid in pearl abyss stock options to promote CD by the korean illuminati that runs this board.
And I will say no, it's not made for controller, that's insane to me, for all the reasons you've mentioned so far yeah I find the idea of playing this on controller utterly deranged.

I think the controller recommendation is like a social experiment, just to see how many people do something very obviously stupid because an authoritative prompt told them it's better
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>>736493267
Crimson Desert is not an RPG
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>>736493168
Nobody is saying it's the realistic graphics that makes it look generic you dweeb. It's the art direction that makes it look generic.
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>>736488257
>inb4 overly toxic defense force to insult you personally even though the game is objectively eh
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The complaint I hear the most is that its trying to do too many things.
But at the same time if all those things are done decent to well, whata the problem?
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>>736493017
Just so you know
Applies to ubisoft games as well
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>>736493358
>even though the game is objectively eh
objectively post your playtime immediately
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>>736493280
>when a White man sees a mountain in the distance he wants to climb it.
>But since I'm brown, I have to do it in a video game
>>736493319
The sims is and always will be a game for females. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
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>>736493376
>if all those things are done decent to well
Got some bad news for ya
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>>736493216
? Did 4K break you?
>>736493343
What does that have to do with anything?
>>736493353
Name a game that looks the same. It's a lazy claim you keep repeating in bad faith with zero evidence.
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>>736493267
The graphics look fantastic imo especially for how well the game runs compared to how something similar in scale would run on UE5 for example. Art direction is obviously subjective to a point, worst you can say is it’s generic but nothing in this game is offensive or ugly unlike a lot of western releases and the technical aspects shine through a lot more as a result. I do think the actual lighting is very well done, the way town light up at night and fog and rain can settle in at night looks very aesthetic.
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>it's a white game
>you're brown and gay if you don't like it
This is what shills resort to when a game has absolutely nothing of value to advertise. Make it a culture war thing instead.
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>>736493347
A game of that type and scale should still have a much better story. A billions random quests with no meaning gives the player zero incentive to do any of them.
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Kinda half-convinced the Crimson Cuck shill is just an AI,it keeps using the same phrases no matter what thread or response .
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>>736488436
Certainly not shill behavior.
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>>736493376
You have to remember that those kinds of broad, vague complaints about the game are from people who played like 2 hours.
The intro of the game does in fact try to do too many things, it has no focus, barely makes any sense, and doesn't even show what's good about the game.

People who actually played the game have a very different sorts of complaints, autistically specific things like "why is the camp provisioner situated right outside the abyss nexus so I have to slow down when walking past him each time I teleport in"
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>>736493479
>What does that have to do with anything?
Good question
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>>736493524
how do you know how good the story is? post completion achievement. i will settle for the chapter 7 achievement also.
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>>736493376
They're just copying journalist talking points
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>>736493583
which one applies to you that made you seethe with its accuracy?
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>>736493412
But ubislop games always have a forced lame story à la Crimson Desert but on top of that is there is always maybe 2 mechanics stretched thin over the entire game as justification for it having content which are never that well executed. Crimson Desert has far more gameplay variety and depth than any Ubisoft game.
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>>736488257
I liked it somewhat but ended up refunding. I realized that i hate the modern sluggish movement with realistic animations. That's one reason i haven't bought rdr2 in these years
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>>736493515
No that's actually legit why you're upset and it's glorious.
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Look, unless you buy the ultimate fuck me in the ass edition of the game for 5 people and yourself and complete it to 100% at least 6 times your opinion is invalid
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>>736493569
Sounds like you're in a lot of Crimson Chad threads :)
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>>736493515
Struck a nerve?
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>>736493479
You already posted this. Shill.
>>736491863
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>>736493726
kek, so buckbroken he couldn't resist outing himself. you love to see it.
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>>736493726
>mentions cucks
>Immediately shows up

Like clockwork
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>>736488910
this would be a good ad. this sold it for me.
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>>736493753
Yep. 4K BROKE them. Hope they stay for more screenshots I take today (they will)
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>>736493669
I wish I had the sense to refund it, but I've played past the 2 hour play time.
I kept thinking "Maybe this time I'll like it" but it never came.
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>>736488436
Actually I think this is more of a zoomer game. Zoomers clown on movie games and love sandboxes, millennials are the type to hem and haw about even trying a game, nitpick the story, complain there's no "incentive" to play etc. while zoomers just have fun if the game is good.

My source for this is that there's about a trillion youtube shorts and tiktoks about how fun the game is, while legacy media formats like journo reviews are mostly whining and saying it's "hard to get into", "confusing", "the controls (i.e. my reflexes) can't keep up" other such unc-isms
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The game leaves you feeling like you are in a haze the first twenty hours. Once a large amount of the mechanics are unlocked/explained the haze begins to clear and you get an idea of what you would like to focus on. The game hides more surprises for people who put a lot of time in, I feel like I barely scratched the surface at 40 hours.
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>>736493662
> 2 mechanics stretched thin
Not true at all
Specially in AC rpgs
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>>736491678
>Elden Ring is my favorite game
That's a serious issue then.
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>>736493872
zoomzooms are mostly too brainfried for any single player game let alone this one
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>>736493479
It looks like they asked an AI engine to make their art direction where they used forspoken and a couple of final fantasy titles to come up with those square white rock buildings. Generic hero, generic enemies, generic world. The graphics are great, don't get me wrong, it all just looks like there was zero inspiration to make something distinct and original with the designs. It just looks like tech demo designs to me or something an ai made they then worked on.
>>736493487
Yeah the graphics look great, so that's not my complaint. Art direction is definitely subjective, I just can't help but think it looks generic. But like I said earlier, that wasn't a problem for me when I played the first Dragon Age game or the Witcher games that all are fairly generic in art direction too. They just had more engaging stories so you could look past the generic aspects.
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Does anyone have the gif of stealing the fireplace
my friend thought I was making that up and I want to show him
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>>736493590
If you need to get that deep into the game for the story to pick up or properly start, then you haven't made a good/engaging story.
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>>736494079
>forspoken
stopped reading there. you are the only one who played or thinks about that game anon. it is blatantly obvious that it's you when you mention it in these threads..
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>>736494156
well when you play it on a real pc it looks fucking amazing. for whoever took that pic i suggest seeking employment
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>>736491678
>Roll
>Wait your turn child
>Roll
>Swing
>Sorry child, you didnt wait your turn.
>Roll
>Wait
>Roll
>Swing
>Swing again (Engage neurons)
>"Zanzibart..."
>Wait for dialogue
>"forgive me..."
>Roll

Yeah elden ring is litty frfr top tier combat
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>>736493669
The movement in CD is worse than even its contemporaries. It feels so fucking bad on controller. The momentum feels like you're driving a car. No wonder they added an 'accelerate' button in their new patch.
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>>736494156
Needs more blur
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>>736493728
As a white man I find it quite sad and desperate that you have to pretend to be something you're not to sell your gookslop
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>>736494145
I didn't play forspoken, but I know what it looks like.
But you're not interested in any arguments anyway. I could mention anything and you'd fight about it. So there's no point in arguing.
You don't think it looks generic, but I think it does.
I just expect more from games this big.
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>>736494079
That's a lot of words just to say "I can’t name a single game"
>forspoken and a couple of final fantasy titles
Let's see them.
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>>736493872
>Babby's first sandbox
That's because we played gmod, you dumb bitch. You act like you're so fucking cool. Yeah, maybe when you grow up around some of the best games ever made, your definition of goty will be more than just 'look how much inane shit I can do!'
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>>736494286
AI slop
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>>736494206
Omg this so much. The narrative and story in Elden Ring was just so lacking. It’s like why even do anything? I thought back to the shivers I got when Kratos told his wife’s son that they had to be better men. The first thing I thought when I was greeted with Elden Ring’s open world is… “what’s the hecking point? Like why am I even here?” Luckily, when I followed one of 4 viable character builds and spammed dodge roll, the gameplay more than made up for it. I just couldn’t get Crimson Desert, not only is there no story, but there’s more than one mechanic? Like what am I supposed to do here? I can only use so much brainpower.
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>>736493137
That's clearly a faggot
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>>736494384
comparing gmod to crimson desert is the absolute dumbest fucking shit i've ever heard in my life
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>>736488257
Because it's overrated gookshit trash.
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It's the Avatar of videogames. Technically impressive but wholly uninspired, lacking substance and zero cultural impact.
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>>736494546
>see White mans blue eye
>must be a faggot
kekaroo, ok Sukhdeep.
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>>736493137
Kek. Why are they so obsessed about hating video games?
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>>736494559
Why not? They're both sandboxes. Are you feeling threatened because gmod controls better, plays better, is more fun and can be played with friends? Ok, sorry. I'll go back to calling it The Sims: dude edition.
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>>736494809
i hope for your parents sake you get gibs from the state for your crippling mental retardation and aren't a burden on them
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>>736488257
It's Skyrim but worse in every aspect because it released in 2026 and was made by incompetent gooks.
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>>736494869
This is literally the sims for boys. Maybe I'll call it second life medieval next to really make you seethe.
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>>736488257
You need to be a low IQ MMO player subhuman to enjoy this kind of game
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whats you niggas favourite weapon?
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>>736494384
No, you're just obsessed with status like millennials tend to be. Notice how you throw around "best games ever", "goty" etc when I mentioned no such thing. It's just a fun game. Not everything is some serious business social contest with high stakes where you have to posture for izzat. I'll be 30 this year and I fully recognize most people my age and older were mindbroken by twitter or reddit into having this mindset. Glad it's dying out.
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>>736490286
>You're dogshit and probably retarded.
i too enjoy doing most of my gameplay by fingerfucking my right trigger and watching kliff cook every individual item with unskippable cutscenes that waste my time
narcolepsy inducing

hell even dynasty warriors has at least 3 effective buttons, thats like 1 more than astrotufed desert
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>CD is like hecking the sims and gmod but worse

Did the Indian anti-shills fully go off the deep end? What even is the anti-CD anymore
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It's okay to enjoy 7/10 games
And it's also okay to not enjoy 10/10 games
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>>736495039
You're an idiot. It's because we've lived longer and seen what great games look like. Now you want to pretend like you guys weren't saying this is goty? Give me a fucking break.
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>>736495087
>CD is just inzoi
I think i can see it
>>736495123
based, what's with the cabal of overly aggressive defenders who usually come to actively insult people though
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>>736495087
I don't even get it because the sims is a good game. One of the best games ever that defined a whole genre. And he's like "it's that but for boys". is that an endorsement? lol
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>>736495087
>More posts about carrying cats than storyline beats
It's the fucking sims, you gay faggots.
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>>736488257
> story is shit
> interaction controls are shit
> graphics at night look like ass even at cinematic/max
> NPC interaction is non existent
> world feels fucking dead compared to games like BOTW
> item management is fucking infuriating
> main quest soft locks are common
This game is the definition of slop, I wasted a lot of money in this shit
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>>736495192
No, because it still makes you womanly for liking it. It's female codes with a male aesthetic. It means you're gay.
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>>736495125
>Now you want to pretend you guys weren't saying
bro this isn't reddit, you can't dig into someone's post history if you're butthurt lol
Nobody cares what anybody else was saying, again a discussion thread is not implicitly a social contest for likes and retweets which you can win or lose, please take a step back and maybe take a break from the internet for a while, try to move past the social media brainrot before it becomes permanent
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You can tell there's a shill campaign going on because they don't just dislike Crimson Desert, they are VERY upset that the game is succesful.

It's because the commercial metrics of this game succeeding and their jewish Western AAA cancer massively failing further solidify that people don't want anti-White 'diversity', gays, troons, uggos and feminists.
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>>736495496
And of course, those commercial metrics also prove that these jewish ideologies are not popular. At all.

They're a very loud, very small minority. The emperor has no clothes.
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>>736495496
You’ve also gotta imagine a lot of western devs are receiving a real whipping for the failure of ESG and the success of this game. Publishers are probably in overdrive trying to control the narrative so Fink and co. don’t rape them for being btfo by Koreans making an apolitical all white European fantasy game that’s eating their lunch
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>>736488257
>Why am i not having fun?
It just isn't your kind of game anon I guess. That or you're depressed and struggling to find joy in things you love. The former is normal, if it is the later then you need to work on yourself.
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>>736488436
you’re the same faggot who’s always defending fag33 while calling everyone a jeet, aren’t you?
you taste in vidya is abysmally dogshit.
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>>736495342
So your assertion is that no one was calling this game goty? People are calling it The best game they've ever played but you think they don't think it's goty? Yeah right.
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>>736494869
Holy projection
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>>736492892
>I need some story about an alcoholic baron who hit his woife and felt bad aboot it m8 before I can enjoy the gameplay, innit

This game clearly isn't for you (non white), so that's ok. Me however, when I see a massive structure or mountain in the distance, the wonder of what lies on top is all I need to motivate me to go see
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>>736488257
I played it for 48 hours and did not like it at all.
>shit combat
>can’t customize your camp
>can’t really manage your greymane squad aside sending them to do a set of quests in a shitty ass “wait 2 in game days for completion”
>shit story
>no cool characters to at least keep
me interested in playing just for that
game is ass!
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>>736495496
Why would some nebulous company pay people to shit on a game? What sounds more likely, there is an army of shills being paid by a faceless corporation to hate on a game with no clear competitor being staunchly defended by true fans? Or there are many people out there with valid complaints that all are disgruntled and come to voice their opinion where it's immediately swept to the side by shills paid to promote a product (you know, the way marketing works) by the company that made said product? Which sounds more likely?
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>>736488346
FIRST FUCKING POST BEST FUCKING POST
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>>736494559
>comparing gmod to crimson desert is the absolute dumbest fucking shit i've ever heard in my life
It's just desperation at this point and it's hilarious to watch.
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My game looks like shit no matter how i mess with the settings.
Evertything is bully as fuck, specially plate armor and hair textures
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>>736495606
This. Somehow people like OP convinced themselves that a big budget game should be made specifically for them and have 100% of the features they want and don't hold ANY other game to this standard
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>>736495658
I'm gonna be real with you man, it seems like you're desperately trying to force an argument to happen. You don't get anything out of it, you're not winning or losing anything. You're just wasting your life in a way that makes you angry instead of happy. Like I said just leave the social media brainrot behind and stop imagining discussion as a contest to win or lose, there's no metrics on 4chan posts except (you)s so if you force yourself to ignore that one thing it shouldn't be too hard. If it's really tough then maybe just go cold turkey for a while, social media addiction is a real thing.
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>>736488257
Nothing. You got memed and scammed by marketers. It's a shit game.
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>>736496028
Don't care, didn't ask. Suck my dick.
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>>736495496
The way they accuse everyone else of being a shill is just projection. They're mad as fuck because every sale that goes to crimson desert is one less sale that goes to their forced anti-white garbage.
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>>736496001
The game is literally this. I don't get people praising the graphics, they only look good during sunny days on the outside.
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>>736495843
>hes STILL spamming threads
You're that faggot with SF6 too. What the actual fuck is wrong with you. You have been spamming threads about this gookslop for a week despite hating it. This board will never stop suprising me about mentally ill autism of some faggots here.
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>>736495256
>It's female codes
[Whatever] coded will always be associated with someone reading way too much horrible fan fiction and claiming a character is "gay coded" or whatever because they can't separate fan fiction from the official work.
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>>736495829
>see big massive structure in the distance
>spend 10 minutes walking to it
>kill 800 of the same copy pasted bandit on the way
>get there
>locked with a quest
or
>simply uninteractable set piece

its honestly more fun exploring minecraft, and prettier too
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>>736495496
Someone posted a screenshot the other day showing a resetera thread about following Marathon's CCU (steam charts) and it had like 120+ pages.
That's when I realized yes, there really are people who are so utterly obsessed with spectating sales numbers and player counts it even makes famitsu threads seem normal.
I don't think it's a "shill campaign" because that'd mean someone is being paid. The sad truth is that these people are doing it for free, and the only investment they have is their time, almost every waking hour of it.
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>>736496190
>reeeee stop talking about video games in a video game forum! reee
its one post you nigger. Im gracing you faggots with my very humble yet ridiculously based opinion, you should be grateful.
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>>736496265
this

also
> see NPC with cool shield
> kill him to get shield
> game doesn't allow me to loot anything
> now I have a bounty for FUCKING NOTHING

fuck this shit
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>>736495496
You're the shill here.
It's only natural for a shitty game to get called shit, regardless of sales. Happened for BG3, Elden Ring, happens all the time with CoD and FIFA.
>b-but no niggers or trannies!!!
This doesn't make Crimson Desert a good game. The controls? Shit. The combat? Completely brainless. Quest design? MMO tier. The game is full of bloat to distract you from how lackluster the gameplay is, like MMOs often do.
You're too obsessed with politics to see things for what they are.
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>>736496265
Why would you be a faggot and lie
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>>736495496
>the game being successful is why people dont like it
lmao by that logic there should be daily fortnite threads with just as much disappointment
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Games that have focus, coherence, and a strong art style definitely have a lot of value, but you don’t need those to make a fun game. Just look at all the Russian sims on Steam
they have little to no artistic value or vision, but a lot of them are fun as hell
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>>736495843
>100%'d nioh3
as it turns out intuitive design and crisp responsiveness of many features trumps excessive bloat of un-playtested features
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>>736492648
when does any of this start appearing, the game pushes you in a pretty specific direction for the first like 3-8 hours of the game, i've seen literally non of this, even when i've gone out of my way to find and do more side quests they are MMO tier
>go gather 6 logs
if the game is so backloaded, why the fuck did they make it like that?
why are the first 6 hours so fucking painfully boring and confusing?

the entire first area has nothing but bandit camps with hundreds of the same enemy and cliffs when you dont have any of the abilities that make exploration fun
the fucking double jump is so ass to control because its fucking elevation dependent, so if you are on a downhill slope you literally cant double jump, you will always 100% consistently start gliding, same with jumping off tall places like roofs
you have to get a huge run up and start jumping way before the edge so you can actually activate your double jump
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>>736492136
>100x more fun to fight than anything in the entirety of Skyrim

True, Skyrim dungeons were so boring it was draugr city everywhere with generic loot 9 out of 10 times.
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>>736496228
I don't care about your gay fanfic. I'm saying this game is made to appeal to women with a man's vaneer slapped onto it. Maybe the shills are just the troon brigade out in force. I'm gonna start calling it crimsma'am desHERt.
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>>736489938
>Why is it compared to this?
Because npcs have urination schedule in crimson desert just like in gothic
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>>736496515
There are every time they drop a new character, stupid.
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>>736496781
You could tell care went into their design instead of just throwing in useless shit to pad playtime.
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>>736496871
they drop a new character every day?
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>>736496497
you tell me, since you do so easily.
the game is shit and all of the
>people dont understand the game is fun because of (random action), and (random action) is fun!
dont understand it is literally arguing that the game insist upon itself unironically

its so fucking ironic watching people argue about whiteness or whatever when they are literally arguing
>"its fun because... IT JUST IS OK???"
as the whole game gets dismantled in every category

literal blast havers
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>>736496187
Bitch, I climbed a frozen mountain, in the night, in the middle of a storm. I saw nothing beyond the range of my lantern. Fought wolves and almost got killed by a giant ice golem, found a ancient battlefield with a skelleton embracing a beautiful silver sword that I still use now.
I loved every moment of it and the atmosphere was perfect
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>>736492136
there has been nothing like this in the entire area surrounding the first town, the game even gives you a bunch of things encouraging you to go outside but none of them lead to anything outher than their one and done fetch quest objective or like, killing a handful of the same copy pasted enemy that dont respawn
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>>736492136
>boss is just big health bar
>arbitrary stun bar
>spam an attack until that bar is gone
>lets take full advantage of the world the game takes place in and make every fight an incidental tiny arena with out of bounds
lol fuck that
>useless shit to pad playtime
is how i would describe most of the features, because at the end of the day they dont matter, dont work, or arent useful when it matters; outside of solving a shitty puzzle hiding pure jank, liekely so you can clear a janky challenge which rewards more skill points to unlock more janky mechanics
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>>736493017
You are right. We can compare it with hiking/camping, I have never seen brown and black people do this, only asian and whites. The sense of exploration just isn't there with these people and this makes a game like Crimson Desert something that doesn't appeal to them and then call it boring or bad.
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>consolefag coworkers who bought Wilds for almost 2x the price dare to question my decision to buy CD
People are really exhausting sometimes
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>>736496691
>gone out of my way to find and do more side quests
Let me guess: commissions and bounties? You shouldn't be trying to do all of them. This isn't a modern hand holding game where everything you pick up in your journal = some subverted expectations and huge loot. It's a more realistic rpg progression.
If you think about it, doing random beginner requests or bounties while following the minimap marker isn't hard to do at all and shouldn't result in significant rewards. But modern games have taught the opposite because devs don't want short attention span gamers to miss the content they created. If you read the frog post again, you see he didn't mention any quest markers. There were no markers for the pirate ship, row boat, or chest. The player had to adventure on their own, look around for transportation options, dodge mines, clear the pirate ship, then search the pirate ship to find a unique pirate hat. On their own with their own imagination and problem solving capabilities. That's why they were rewarded.
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I wanna marry damiane
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>>736497251
>longtime franchise with global respect known for its depth of systems, multiplayer, amazing long term progression, goofy yet serious story that was popular enough with the majority of fans that it became a main aspect of the series
vs
>no name dev team only known for "action" mmo that feels and plays like shit due to 500+ms latency in combat with character designs like nude korean dolls and swimsuit models made a game where all you do is use the same 2 finisher animations to kill thousands of one type of enemy and MMO fetch quests

gee i wonder
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>>736497068
>Insists upon itself
Kill the self
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>>736497251
People are retarded when it comes to that. They will question if game X is worth it or will say its overpriced while spending 80$ on 7 hours long corridor shooter like RE Requiem that has zero replayability apart from doing second playthrough with cheats enabled lol.
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>>736497490
>MH
>Depth of systems
>Story
lolmao?
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>>736497490
> all you do is use the same 2 finisher animations
and to think theyre tied to the same button
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>>736497467
you are a fucking moron and dont understand video game design
none of that was done "through creativity" they specifically designed the minefield to be navigated by a rowboat, that's why they put a fucking boat there
game devs dont just "make content designed for the player to miss" like its the great hollow from dark souls 1. any time you "find something the devs didnt think you would" you are 100% deluding yourself into thinking they didnt design the specific exact route you took and pushed you in tons of little ways but you were too retarded to understand, "oh a mountain pass didnt have a quest marker, so that means i DISCOVERED IT MYSELF" as if the map maker didnt carefully design every footpath and light source to guide you there
good games do this in a way where you dont feel the guiding hand, bad games either force the player with railroads (invisible walls) or quest markers, even worse games fail to push you to the interesting parts at all

you are indeed "discovering" things, but you are doing the environment equivalent to following a quest marker. crimson desert fails to do this for the first 10 hours and puts nothing of interest anywhere in the entire first zone
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>>736488257
Because /v/ has been shilling this as the next Dragon's Dogma but it's actually the next open world Assassin's Creed slop.
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>>736497928
/thread
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>>736497558
WITHOUT using
>you are brown
>its just fun
>not designed for you
explain why the criticisms of
plain combat
zero narrative
generic environment
arent valid. if you cant do that, you dont have a real argument and are just trying to claim "the game is only fun for white retards who cant read", which might be you depending on your qualifier for "white"
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>>736497162
>boss is just big health bar
>arbitrary stun bar
You need more?

>spam an attack until that bar is gone
Record yourself doing that to any boss of your choice.

Remember, no dodging, no blocking, no skill usages, just spamming attack like you said. Record it and let's see (you won't)
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>>736497984
>plain combat
More variety/combos than your favorite open world action game. Feel free to name one that you disagree with
>zero narrative
Objectively has a narrative but not one person in here said it was good so you're arguing with yourself and you still lost that argument by still being wrong
>generic environment
What's generic about?

Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs (that you can pilot fun fact) and dragons.

Feel free to use chatgpt for that last question because even with chatgpt you won't find an answer. Know why? Because I remember you from another thread where you said this same shit and bailed the minute I called you out.

I'll await your exit from this thread also.
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>>736497632
>>>>Depth of systems
>player economy
doesnt waste my time, many ways to manage it, NPCS to streamline, doesnt harm nor impede the gameplay
Frequently outputs useful consumables and materials
Companions can also supplement material gain by generating loot rolls during core gameplay
>Inventory management
sort buttons, stack sells, bulk buys, sorting by tradeables, useful crafts (see, wishlisting and bookmarking), speed/on the go crafting hearkening back to on-the-go craft and fight from classic resident evil influence
even if it isnt depth of systems its all well thought out and plays well into the gameplay

Still, a better comparison would have been to dragons dogma 2, and even that game has purposeful jank (odd decisions that make the game fee different)
compared to CD's amateur jank (bad decisions from lack of experience and playtesting that translate to unfun implementation)
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>>736497632
yes, the systems in monster hunter have long been well defined as incredibly deep and have huge impacts on gameplay
>skills
>resistances/blights
>palicos
>food and food skills
>ranged weapon functionality
etc. are a hundred times deeper than anything in crimson desert
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>>736498129
>unfun implementation
Why does it have more people playing it than Dragons Dogma 2 and any Monster Hunter game right now (combined)?

Must be more fun than those shitty games, LMAO
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>>736495637
KEK
you lost.
you got bent the fuck over.
you got raped.
you got gaped.
by both E33 and Crimson Desert.
White heterosexual men who actually love video games won.
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>>736497842
>quest markers bad
>marking interesting shit with environment bad
What do you suggest, putting a sword of thousand dooms under a random unmarked stone in a middle of nowhere? And no, dark souls invisible walls are not good design, your options for finding them are: get lucky and find it accidentally, read a guide, autistically hit every wall, read a soapstone message. There's nothing in ds that suggests the existence of great hollow at all.
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>>736488257
>What am i missing out?
The thing that games like BotW have: game design.
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>>736497986
>You need more?
so the game is being defended as needing to be simplistic now?
as an example
>DD2
enemies had weaknesses to
>attack types
>weakspots
>part focusing
>grappling
this is consistent throughout the game
CD bosses
>cant use most of your grapples because... you just cant!
>elemental affinities boil down to did you equip gear that makes you take less damage, epic!
>all that topography you're used to traversing is nonexistent and has zero influence on combat
If you cant be bothered to make the systems talk to each other, im going to have to ask "why throw them in haphazardly to begin with"
I dont go to an italian restaurant for tacos
i dont go read a book so i can listen to someone play their mixtape
in one case its pointless
in the other case it's annoying
but in both cases it detracts from the perceived quality
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>>736498220
>why is a new FOTM game with casual appeal being played by 2 old ass games with no announced/ongoing new content
i dont need to tell you that, you should know how FOTM works
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>>736498120
>More variety/combos than your favorite open world action game. Feel free to name one
why dont we take one of its contemporary's? nioh released earlier this year to a pretty wide range of responses
plenty of people loved it, plenty of people hated it
>nioh has more moves and options available on a single weapon than crimson desert has between all of its mechanics, and all of them have a genuine usecase and reason for existing
>some are movement based and change your positioning, something really important in the game and can be used to avoid or counter attacks that you wouldnt have with basic attacks
>attacks have elements attached to them, enemies can build up status effects that can make them take more health or stamina damage, slow down their attacks, or inflict them with a DoT effect
>there is a huge emphasis on chaining abilities together with variety, with systems like the "Versatility" passive skill giving you a ramping damage bonus based on how many different skills you connect with in combat
>enemies and bosses are designed extremely carefully and have very dangerous attacks that need to be read and dealt with in specific ways and can have attacks that are unblockable, or attacks that you need to interrupt
>ranged attacks fill a very specific and interesting niche, being extremely powerful precision weapons often being used for surprise attacks, but maintain power in the middle of combat if you can manage to headshot a moving opponent it knocks them down and opens them up to finishers
>the game has summoning enemies, magic spells, ninja tools, equip two different weapons at once (with specific skills to fluidly change between them, two different "classes" with focus on blocking or dodging

it lacks the gimmicks like, "woah a robot i can sit in for 18 minutes and shoot birds with during a story mission!" but the combat as a whole is just like, incomparably better on every level
i would say more but i'm at the character limit
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>>736498192
deeper or not, the biggest thing is they've been iterated and playtested upon between games and as part of quality control and playtesting
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>>736498664
>enemies had weaknesses to

Flying wraiths have weaknesses to light meaning you can shine your sword on them to kill them.
Bears are weak to fire elemental damage
Mecha based enemies are weak to lightening.

Have you even played the game, there's a literal "weakness identifier" mechanic in the game telling you what enemies are weak too.

Where's that webm of you spamming attack on a boss, your webm is of an irrelevant game nobody plays, I was expecting you to back up your original argument. Let me remind you of it.

>spam an attack until that bar is gone

Keep in mind, your failure to provide me with visual proof of this is a concession to me
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>>736498806
tl;dr

Not gonna let you shift the goalpost.

Here's your claim:

>generic environment

Here's my rebuttal:
>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs (that you can pilot fun fact) and dragons.

Go on. I'm still waiting. It's ironic as well when you said " if you cant do that, you dont have a real argument " when it turns out you're the one with no argument.

I'll still in this thread waiting and i'll be in the next one when you inevitably hide behind your anonymity, wait for this thread to hit the bump limit and try to use that same bullshit argument in the next thread
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>>736498813
and crimson desert has had absolute free reign to learn anything it wants from the videogames industry, as none of these products are black boxes. they are free to play and experience yourself, it is just up to you to replicate them to your ability, something crimson desert either lacks or isnt interested in, to its detriment

the game falls in so many areas because it doesnt understand (or again, isnt concerned) with WHY these things are put in games or WHY players engage with them
i dont "just like mashing attack buttons" or "equipping skills in slots" i like building a character that matters, and i like engaging in combat that gives me a goal and tests me
you can put a jetpack in fucking witcher but that doesnt mean its gonna be fun or make sense. keep that shit in games that actually have a space for it
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>>736498806
you could have just said Nioh has better combat and no one would argue. but Nioh is ONLY combat and Crimson Desert isn't. both are good.
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>>736498806
lmao
lol
rofl
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>>736488257
You fell for Gook-slop marketeers. Many such cases.
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does anyone know how the repair support dispatch missions work? Do you have to keep them running or something?
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>>736498806
even though nioh 3 is the "cheaper" game it is the better tested game
>dodge is snappy and useful
>block is snappy and useful
>basic attacks dont randomly come out because the combined button input grace in nioh3 isnt fucking dogshit
and arguably the most important thing
>THE JUMP ISNT AN INPUT DEADZONE WHERE YOU CANT DO SHIT, DROP 90% of your inputs, and literally cant double jump on command
Ive done the fucking King death roll on my friends in tekken and i cant believe how bad the game is because of no fucking input buffering
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>>736499058
>you can put a jetpack in fucking witcher but that doesnt mean its gonna be fun or make sense.

A jetpack woulda been kino in the Witcher 3. That entire game is a fucking slog to play. Zero movement gameplay, just riding your teleporting horse from one "OI M8, ME WOIFES BEEN FOOKED BY A BLOOMIN MONSTA" cutscene to the next.

Dogshit game
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>>736498806
Still waiting lil bro >>736498995

Don't run away just yet
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>>736498806
Post CD playtime. i actually played both, did you?
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>>736498885
>Flying wraiths have weaknesses to light meaning you can shine your sword on them to kill them.
Bears are weak to fire elemental damage
Mecha based enemies are weak to lightening.
again, as i said all these "epic bosses" everyone gushes about boils down to
>do you remember how to swing a sword
>do you remember how to block
and if you suck
>did you bring enough healing
which is frankly dull
NO grappling
NO janky powerattacks that have no impact or reward becausse youre animation locked with zero incentive
unecessarily limited envionrmental combat in a game with an emphasis on physics based combat and traversal
DULL
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>>736499305
he will but it's not his btw.

See: >>736498120

I called that same anon out in another thread and I know its him because he keeps calling the world generic yet runs away whenever I ask him one simple question
>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs (that you can pilot fun fact) and dragons.

He can't answer it and he tried posting his "playtime" on Crimson desert in the other thread. Turns out he got it from some rando online because when I asked him to post a picture of himself ontop of a roof in hernand city with food in his hand, he ran away.

Probably some switchfaggot seething that this game did what TotK couldn't (be fun)
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>>736499058
>and crimson desert has had absolute free reign to learn anything it wants from the videogames industry
yes, Did you not play helldivers?
this [we dont understand why mechwarrior is so good so lets just implemeent the robots with no playtesting so they SHOOT THEMSELVES if they havent rotated into the camera" reeks of reinventing the wheel
which is the heart of jank and a symptom of zero playtesting
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>>736499334
yawn, tl;dr.

I'll repeat my question - "Where's that webm of you spamming attack on a boss, your webm is of an irrelevant game nobody plays, I was expecting you to back up your original argument. Let me remind you of it."

You've lost the argument until you can provide me with this because that was your original claim. No point arguing anything else with you until you admit that you're making shit up about a game you've never played
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>>736499058
You know what this reminds me of a little bit?
ELEX.
They tried to do a weird fucking mix with the different factions being just a jumbled mess of religion, technology, magic, albinos and rednecks, nothing made any fucking sense there.
In the second entry to that series you had all these different shits for combat but the entire game could be trivialized by just using shotguns. They didn't put any thought on what made sense and what didn't. Just throw it in there.
With CD sometimes I feel like a 10 year old just played a lot of decent games in these last few weeks and he came up with this crazy idea for a videogame that is just mixing all of this stupid shit together with no cohesion.
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>>736496793
I know what you meant, but if you say "Slash fic yaoi lemon crack ship this game is for women," people are going to assume you're obsessed with bad fan fiction.
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>>736499135
sadly majority of the world are shit eating normies, hence why a fantastic series like Nioh shall always remain niche amongst the big brained pneumatic chads.
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>>736499334
Why are you comparing an open world action adventure game that's has far more in common with the likes of Zelda or Prince of Persia than combat focused soulslop?
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>>736499456
i havent lost the argument because im not at home to just boot up the game because im a wageslave
fuck you yurop
also plenty of epic clips are just
>guy stunlocks enemy to death and flaunts how epic it was
>boss boils down to all reaching attacks that you can mash attack and heal through
but again my issue is
>none of the other inputs matter because they feel like shit to use
its just that heal, block, and light attack actually come out on command
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>>736499457
Bro most if not all of CD's ideas existed in their highly successful MMO. Magitek has been a theme in fiction since before you were born. It's just weird to you because it's not a straight rip of tolkein or game of onions
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Just unlocked the camp and the game doesnt click, should i drop it?
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>>736499614
>I'm not at home.

Kek, there it is. Concession accepted then. See you in the next thread buddy :^)
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>>736499656
>Bro most if not all of CD's ideas existed in their highly successful MMO.
how does that help someone who has zero interest in playing MMOs? BDO might as well not exist for me.
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>>736498995
i made 3 claims and addressed the biggest one (gameplay) but ok, i'll address this one too since you dont seem to want to comment about your game being compared to others

why dont we compare it to one from history. skyrim released almost 2 decades ago and has extremely fleshed out worldbuilding that includes
>wealth of races
>dragons
>gods
>demons
>robots
>all sorts of undead, ghosts, zombies, mummies, liches
>huge variety of organizations
>dragon hunters
>ancient monks
>criminal gangs
>mercenary companies
>magic schools
>political factions
and most importantly ALL OF THESE are things the player can interact with. they dont just show up as towns people, they play a role in what kind of character you are interacting with. its not just a random dungeon, dwemer ruins inform the player of what kind of dangers they will be expecting (like flame gout traps and spinning blades). each of the organizations plays a part in the world and is physically present in the background without the player having to interact with them. rogues show up in cities, the companion's guild will have farkas show up around the map on jobs. dragons show up and effect story events. liches are former characters from the history in the game, you can do specific favors for demons to earn their favor and artifacts, playing the political story changes leaders in cities and results in different events in the main fucking story of the game.

its an RPGists wet dream, but i'm sure you're going to shove some arbitrary bullshit in my face and call me a tranny because one of the most popular and beloved games of all time isnt korean and doesnt have gigantic HHH cup breasts as a slider option, or "it doesnt have cars so its not real magitech fantasy. as a side note, final fantasy 15 has dragons, cars, magic and robots, but it is a pretty awful and boring world as well. you arent interested in having a real discussion about the game though, you just want to "shove it in western studio's faces"
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> commit crime to get loot
> can't actually loot gear from NPCs I killed
> now I have a massive bounty that I can't afford to pay
> can't interact with basically anything, including merchants in the whole region because of the bounty
> but I can literally walk in front of the guards, and they won't do shit

what the fuck is this system??
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I got to 9 hours and man the controls are just so fucking dreadful.

I absolutely despise arkham/AC for devolping this increadibly retarded "press attack button and fly 20 feet towards the nearest enemy bullshit."

at least the world is pretty and filled out decently well right?
so why in the fuck were these retards thinking making such a great world and making controlling and navigating it a nightmare!! I feel more in control and snappyness playing getting over it or qwop over this bullshit.

The product managers in charge need to be fired asap.
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>>736499595
>dark souls invented combat focus
fucking lmao
if you give me a set of tools and they dont feel great to use, im going to talk shit about them regardless of what the "focus" of the game is
I challenge anyone to engage in this game's skill point/abyssal challenges and not have the thought that "this is a garbage, shitty, annoying feature" not pass their mind for at least half of the challenges

Or, to tl;dr
>engage with at least half of the game's mechanics on offer and tell me you didnt think "man this is shit" for at least half of them
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>>736499717
It helps you by not buying this game and buying another game that you do have interest in then anon.

Freewill is weird like that. Just know you're in the minority, 180,000+ blast havers on a Monday as we speak. Feel free to play another (inferior) game!
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>>736499717
The ideas aren't haphazard with no cohesion like you said. There's a DNA there and it works
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>>736497842
Good video game exploration design is literally about subtly guiding players while making them feel like they discovered stuff themselves. Kill yourself you bad faith shitposting faggot.
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>>736499715
>this is the people who win arguments
>basement dwellers and yurops who choose to die on the hill of crimson desert above all things
yeah enjoy your win, and all that jazz
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>>736499809
i'm a Desertchad, anon
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>>736499794
I personally hate how laggy the controls feel overall. sprinting and then taking a few seconds for the character to stop moving pisses me off.
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>>736499751
tl;dr - Didn't see a single game mentioned.

Not letting you goalpost shift, i've already told you this and thankfully, you don't need to be "at home" to find me just one open world fantasy game with the following:

>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs (that you can pilot fun fact) and dragons.

Just like in the last thread, i'll even give you a headstart again - https://chatgpt.com/

Quit yapping about how Skyrims your favorite game or whatever, nobody cares.

Back up your original argument.
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>>736499791
>> can't actually loot gear from NPCs I killed
actually you can but its mostly
>broken beyond repair lol
lol
and the best part is its implemented in a
>bullshit RNG droprate way like the elden ring did
2x lol
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>>736499751
>its an RPGists wet dream, but i'm sure you're going to shove some arbitrary bullshit in my face and call me a tranny because one of the most popular and beloved games of all time isnt korean and doesnt have gigantic HHH cup breasts as a slider option, or "it doesnt have cars so its not real magitech fantasy. as a side note, final fantasy 15 has dragons, cars, magic and robots, but it is a pretty awful and boring world as well. you arent interested in having a real discussion about the game though, you just want to "shove it in western studio's faces"

What the fuck is this paragraph. This nigga is literally crashing out over Crimson Desert, holy shit
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>>736499614
>i havent lost the argument because im not at home to just boot up the game because im a wageslave
you have to wageslave on easter monday? this just confirms that you're brown... which again confirms that this game really is for whites only

Q.E.D.
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I am suspicious of any game that has no fanart
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>Set the game graphics to minimum
>105 fps in town
>Set the game graphics to cinematic (lighting to cinematic as well, not max)
>100 fps in town
>Enable RR
>45 fps
Someone explain this shit to me thoroughly
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>>736499751
>final fantasy 15 has dragons, cars, magic and robots, but it is a pretty awful and boring world as well.
Notice how you didn't call it generic though?

Concession accepted (AGAIN)
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>>736499937
>tl;dr - Didn't see a single game mentioned.
the entire post opened with skyrim and stuck to discussing skyrim
it didnt mention a single game to you because you're pushing a narrative akin to yahoo political extremist comment sections
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>>736492175
>But how about good art direction
Already has it
>and a custom character
Why is this a bad thing? Do you bitch about Zelda not having a character creator?
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>>736500089
Skyrim doesn't have mech trains and jetpacks.

Try again
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>>736500036
>draw fanart
>its just knightlike dudes with exposed necks
>and generic green jews
even if there was fanart, could you even tell?
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>yeah enjoy your win
Thank you, I will
*puffs cigar smoke on your brown face*
*dabs the ashes out on your nappy afro hair*
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>>736499568
>fantastic

you must be insane. they're good games held back by shit bosses and controller paradigm design. itemization is bad which in turn makes exploration unrewarding. they peak at fighting normal/elite mobs. thats it. sekiro >>nioh

also nioh3 is garbage, complete downgrade compared to 2
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>>736500172
Idk, fucking BDO has fanart
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>8 hours in
>every quest is just "ride horse here and talk to NPC"
>then ride the horse again and talk to another NPC
>maybe fight a group of like 5 bandits that all die in 3 hits

When does the tutorial ends and the game becomes this epic open world with dragons, robots, sky islands, pirates, huge army battles, bandit fortress etc?
Feels like im playing the game wrong somehow
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>>736500172
Mount and Blade and AoE has fanart
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>>736499751
>wealth of races
>dragons
>gods
>demons
>robots
>all sorts of undead, ghosts, zombies, mummies, liches
>huge variety of organizations
>dragon hunters
>ancient monks
>criminal gangs
>mercenary companies
>magic schools
>political factions

Literally all of this is in Crimson Desert and the best part is, the gameplay isn't Gamebryo dogshit and I don't need to sit through loading screens to go into one of the 5 buildings in its "major city"

Pic related. Imagine trying to scale a building in Whiterun, trying to sneak into a house through the window only to be met with a loading screen.

Shit Crimson Desert is a better stealth archer game than Skyrim, it's CRAZY
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>>736500036
Too generic to have fanart.
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>>736500038
That's just good optimization. RR is new Ray Tracing tech that's very hard on the gpu. This game will look great for everyone with a new gpu in 5 years.
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>>736500169
and crimson desert doesn't have a handy hookblade to enable fast scaling of edges and cliffs, whats your point?
a game's features are as meaningless as the lack of context for them
>>736500246
well yeah thats because it has [korean MMO armor designs] instead of a slavish dedication to depicting generically historical aesthetics
which isnt even an excuse because even I can tell when a game like For Honor has iconic designs and silhouettes
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>>736500276
>>maybe fight a group of like 5 bandits that all die in 3 hits
dont worry the game gets better supposedly when the same 5 bandits now die in a hundred hits
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I dont get whats so complicated or obtuse about the plot.

>Graymane clan getting wiped by the black bears.
>PC gets bodied in the tutorial and fucking dies.
>Black bears are using dangerous magic to win the war and attracted the attention of interdimensional space wizards.

>Space wizards are lazy and bring you back to life to deal with them.

Seems pretty standard fantasy fare so far. Looking forward to see how it escalates.
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>>736500239
yea no shit a retarded hylic such as yourself can’t grasp Team Ninja’s greatness. like I said, Nioh is a niche series for Pneumatic chads with sublime based taste.
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>>736500409
>Lack of context for them
The context is obvious if you actually played the game
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>>736488257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkQqs9X0qnc
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>and crimson desert doesn't have a handy hookblade to enable fast scaling of edges and cliffs, whats your point?

It literally does lmao

This is getting super embarrassing now.
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>>736500409
>enable fast scaling of edges and cliffs
???
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>>736500409
> whats your point?
Point is clear.

You called its world generic, I gave the contents of said world, you were incapable of finding me a game that exists with the same stuff that would make it generic. You lost the argument is my point.
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>this much discourse about a literal 7
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>>736500709
bro hasn't played the game and is absolutely seething over it, it's so funny. Just read this last paragraph in his last post:

>>736499751
>its an RPGists wet dream, but i'm sure you're going to shove some arbitrary bullshit in my face and call me a tranny because one of the most popular and beloved games of all time isnt korean and doesnt have gigantic HHH cup breasts as a slider option, or "it doesnt have cars so its not real magitech fantasy. as a side note, final fantasy 15 has dragons, cars, magic and robots, but it is a pretty awful and boring world as well. you arent interested in having a real discussion about the game though, you just want to "shove it in western studio's faces"

Bro is fucking CRASHING OUT. The fact that he thinks Skyrim is an RPGists wet dream is the icing on the cake. Very brown coded poster
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Is this just Rise of Ronin again?
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>>736500732
Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode and Elona, jeez
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>>736500858
who?
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>>736500585
>It literally does lmao
nah its 3 generic tools that solve any puzzle in your case
>ACRev
a hookblade to quickly traverse cliffs and cliff faces
a glider to horizontally travel/as a new option to disembark from great heights
>ezio being great at just running
>the horse allowing damn near all these options off of it if you combine it with the terrain you interact with
>everything being usable as a way to counter a type of combat dilemma
meanwhile
>doesnt matter what i fight
i light attack
>doesnt maatter what obstacle i need to overcome
ARR ROOK SAME,
also
>forcing me to interact with the jump button
im good
>replacing the jump button with a system that actually works is acceptable though
no really, it isnt
just give me a simple system with well thought out features, not a bunch of options that all do the same thing
AS IF having 5 different possible prompts for [picking up an item] or [stealing them] was remotely necessary
its just padding
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>>736500858
It's Gook Skyrim but with actual depth and a bunch of casual filtering mechanics.
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>>736500986
It has a little bit of everything so you define your playstyle. And zero handholding, mutts hate that
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>>736488910
There should be Kenshi and Mount and Blade on the left
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>>736499937
>Not letting you goalpost shift
>"fill my arbitrary quota"
i mentioned two of them, you seemed to ignore both though.
i mentioned FFXV, which >>736500063 noticed and accepted as an equivalent world, simply arguing that it isnt "generic", which at this point there is no accounting for taste, and i also mentioned skyrim in the interest of making a comparison with a better designed world, similar to my previous comment comparing the combats of CD and nioh 3

>Back up your original argument
which was, and we can go back and read exactly what i said,
>"generic environment"
which can be defended by claiming its use of
>generic derivative historical architecture with zero attempts to change its stylization
>generic nordic/french population and historical gearing
>generic enemy design stolen 1:1 from other games like witcher
its utter lack of art direction or any sense of style outside of "make it look realistic"
nothing like the design in nu-zelda that wanted to encapsulate the feeling of a pastel painting, nothing like the gritty grimdark feeling of something like warhammer, no stakes, no purpose, things only exist to be a spectacle for specifically the player, as kliff has zero reactions to anything in the entire game, he is hentai protagonist tier blank slate

there can be "a dragon, a train, and mechs" but why they exist in the story is as important, if not MORE important than simply, "that they exist in the game for the player to see and make a big "oh my god" face at and then pass"
ultimately it is art, which is why its hard to criticize, because if the audience simply enjoys shoveling shit into their mouths, there is once again no accounting for taste
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>>736500986
>this action adventure game with minimal story is a better version of an immersive wRPG
Sure thing bro, CD is definitely better version of [Insert beloved game]
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>casual filtering mechanics
testing someone's patience and wasting their time isnt a casual filtering mechanic, its that people who can accept it are suckers who don't value their time, much like CD doesn't value the player's time
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>>736499853
>Good video game exploration design is literally about subtly guiding players while making them feel like they discovered stuff themselves
it is

CD doesnt do that, and people who do think like that are cattle and its unsurprising they like CD when it does give them a corridor to walk down so they can think
>"i'm so smart looking for tied up nobles in the sewers, nobody but me would've found her that's why i deserve to be the korean chosen one TM"
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Is this the dubai chocolate of videogames?
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Game sold 4 million copies
Pretty sure it's made it's budget back
So why such a weird ass defense force?
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>>736500585
Shit like this is what I like about the game, the fact that you can use the game mechanics in whatever creative way you can think of. Personally I had never thought about using Axiom like that so I only did palm 3x and then rawdogged the rest of the climb, will be adding that to my roster
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It's not an rpg and I can't actually care enough to massacre civilians since the MC is too boring and autistic to be a villain
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>>736501250
no, dubai chocolate actually tastes good assuming you like chocolate, pistachio, and little stringy fuckin pastry bits
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>>736501250
Yes, expect 0 people to talk about it in a few months like Where Winds Meet and The First Descendant
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>>736501268
Could be shills
or retards trying to own the western journos even though this game apes every thing from bunch of western games
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>>736499937
as an aside
>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs and dragons
is fulfilled by literally DS gen pokemon games, which are still better games than CD
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>>736488910
Based. Come to think of it Crimson Desert is probably my most played game after Elin in recent years. If you're the kind of gamer who likes a bunch of genres from turn off your brain musou to puzzle solving and tough bosses then this game is just satisfying as fuck.
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>>736501304
Don't get me wrong whether it's actual dubai chocolate or whatever the fuck it is, the one in the store nearby tastes pretty good
I just keep wondering why they add pistachios to every single food item nowadays
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>>736501294
fuck you it is an RPG
assuming your role is some fucking retard who doesnt mind his time being wasted
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>>736501404
>high fantasy
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>>736501404
>it's a mentally ill tendie again
Every fucking time. Fuck off, Nu-Zelda is shit and this game will forever mog Nintendo into rethinking their smeggy shit games. What's that? You're seething? Idgaf don't reply to me worm.
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>>736501472
This pisses me the fuck off
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>>736501268
cuckolds who would deepthroat a korean man to "own the western devs" because they've been having one long autistic meltdown after they stopped making every girl in every game look like a minigame from god of war

they are morally obligated to go out of their way to prop up and project specifically non japanese eastern games because, "japan is woke" and "western devs have fallen"
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>>736500925
>Elona
No train
>Dwarf Fortress
No jetpack

ggez
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>>736501510
I'm sorry, but even Tingle has more charisma than anything Korea put out
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Ive beaten just about everything in this game except Odeck. Fuck this stupid bullshit bitch fight and the ghost spear faggots that can just chain stun you.
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>>736501478
robots and trains arent high fantasy either
would it make you feel better if they were "magicians summoning monsters through spells" instead of using magical capsules that can absorb a monster's essence?

these are the fucking enemies, go on, move more goalposts
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>>736500954
>a hookblade to quickly traverse cliffs and cliff faces
a glider to horizontally travel/as a new option to disembark from great heights
Both in crimson desert with more fleshed out mechanics/gameplay surrounding them.

>just give me a simple system with well thought out features, not a bunch of options that all do the same thing

You've got that in Crimson Desert but sadly, your Nintendo Switch can't run it so you're seething. Big shame, maybe one day you'll be a blast haver like me!
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>>736501472
>>736501551
>launch game
>find CD Comfy thread
>aww yeah bros it's time to get comfy, what are you niggas up to tonight?
>click Post
>game is ready
>play it
i simply have no reason to be upset about something i see once per day
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>>736501226
>I played the game for 5 minutes
Did you say the same for BotW?
>i'm so smart for talking to the old man next to a campfire, nobody but me would've found him that's why i deserve to be the chosen one TM"
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>>736501652
Is the train an actual thing you build or just a world object? Also did they change jetpacks to not use stamina
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>>736499210
The controls of this game are so bad. It's like the devs have never actually played any 3d adventure game in the past 30 years.
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>>736501734
no, because unlike CD, botw actually has things to find off in other directions. the rewards could be better but that's a symptom of progression and itemization moreso than the world design
CD world design is horrid
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>>736501720
I'm just stating that Pokemon isn't a high fantasy game, it's modern fantasy
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>>736501724
no part of crimson desert is "more fleshed out" than contemporaries, let alone predecessors
more like fattened, due to bloat and being a symptom of the bloat
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>>736501113
>i mentioned FFXV, which >>736500063 noticed and accepted as an equivalent world,

FFXV is set in modern day, no goblins, dwarfs, no giants, etc. It's an entirely different and ironically, unique setting that's not generic. Like Crimson Desert.

So try again. So far

>Skyrim = Nope
>FFXV = Nope

What's next. For a generic world, you sure are having a hard time.

Didn't read the rest of your post btw <3
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>>736488257
For me it's not fun like RPG fun or Adventure fun or Actionslop fun but the game really have that charm of musouslop fun. I like when the game opens up a lot of combo possibilities once you are in your 3rd or so big scale skirmishes. Boss/miniboss stages are cancer though at least with their Super Arnor phase bullshit.
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>>736488257
If you're not enjoying it after completing a few chapters and going exploring some side/faction quests, then it's likely you won't enjoy it at all.
>>736488436
I think you're just being a projecting faggot right now
>>736488549
That game is just pure fermented ass yeast

I'm enjoying Crimson Desert though, I'm 48 hours in and I keep discovering new things; only just today I realized that random strangers that appear as bright white circles on your minimap can give you knowledge about various things when you press "talk" on them.
The controls have either improved quite a bit or I have gotten used to the jank, I can finally do doublejump and jumping doesn't feel like it happens seconds after I press the button
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>>736501373
Where winds meet is surprisingly good but 100% designed for the chinese market. Its basically a history lesson represented like a fantasy tale, very weird for westerners
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>>736501829
>botw actually has things to find off in other directions.
Korok seeds? CD has weapons/armor/things that sell for currency that's actually useful
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>>736501404
Yea, Pokemon comes close. Too bad it's not a high fantasy game, kinda a key phrase I used for a reason.

No dwarves
No Goblins

You know, high fantasy shit. Does it even have witches?
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>>736501731
>fast travel
have to see it again
>load up a previous save
have to see it again

even then thats not the point, the point is its just one of many examples of the game wasting the player's time for no reason
Fucking the sims 3 had an interactive loading screen ffs
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>>736501880
show me movement mechanics in AC similar to this >>736500709
>>736500585


I'll wait for another webm you'll be unable to provide. You have like 20 assassins creed games to pull from, i'll let you pick from any one you want.

I'll be here waiting like always buddy :^) Surely you won't goalpost shift yet again!
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>>736501897
>jumping doesn't feel like it happens seconds after I press the button
They fixed this, made jumping after certain actions faster
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It's skyrim for zoomers, they just want to have their own big video game thing even though it sucks balls
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>>736501373
>Where Winds Meet
People were talking about WWM during 1st up to 2nd week at least until the /pol/ tripfags came and inevitably shit up the discussion.
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>>736501803
which again i would argue would be fine if anything felt like it was playtested
I played the first year-ish of helldivers
ive played my fairshare of swedish jank
I know what it feels like to play an unplaytested game
this game did not have a fucking playtest department, at least one that talked to the fucking people implementing the damn systems
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>>736502076
Im 45 and having a blast
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>>736502005
This is where we make our stand, gamers. We need a subway surfers clone starring Damiane in a miniskirt to play during each loading screen or we boycott. Pearl Abyss will listen to us or perish.
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>>736501990
high fantasy isnt even a qualifier for non generic, which was the original complaint
lord of the rings has retroactively become somewhat generic because it is the inspiration for so many things, that doesnt mean its bad.

cd is generic in a specifically uninspiring and derivative way that actively pushes the player away from it if they arent already bought into the "the game will get good after 20 hours" part. it looks like every single generic ue5 asset flip
fuck man, the particle effects are like a fucking ue5 default particle. they did as many things as possible that took the minimum amount of effort required to set up
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>>736501731
The game could have the main character come out of the screen and take a huge shit in your mouth and you'd find a positive thing to say about it. There's no help for you.
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>>736501472
The load time is less than 5-6 seconds, so having that little sequence play still makes it a faster than most other huge games
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>>736502076
It's actually Breath of the Wild but for grown ups
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>>736497928
Never has a sentence made me hate a game more.
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>>736502070
Very blessed
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>>736501880
You're not arguing that the hook swing that can only be used on predefined ledges/tress is more fleshed out than the one in Crimson Desert that can be used on fucking any surface, are you that mindbroken by this Korean game?
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>>736502193
Not a single UE5 game plays as good as CD thougheverbeit
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>>736502195
can you really not fathom someone not being a miserable jaded piece of fat shit like you?
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>>736497928
>this nigger played ass creed slop
>this nigger hasn't played crimson desert
We get it, Ubisoft hurt you bad, and they deserve bad things to happen to them, but you got to move on and stop seeing ghosts everywhere
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im angry... angry about people having fun
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Help. This game exists and now I am mad and I want the people enjoying this game to know I am mad and my ass is pained. What do?
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>>736491261
You have the wrong idea. The story isn't as interesting as a Kojima game, natch, but Crimson Desert's main quest is a perfectly fine epic fantasy story with some awkwardness here and there. It's not as well written as a CD Projekt or Rockstar game but still better than that in a Bethesda or Ubisoft game. It's a lot closer to a cinematic, story heavy open world game like Horizon or Ghost of Tsushima/Yotei, than to a pure mechanics driven sandbox like the two most recent Zeldas.
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>>736502161
brother you of all people would have the least to coomplain about because you grew up in an age where pure jank and clunkiness was the only known standard
>>736502225
the load time isnt the issue
its the bullshit unskippable fade to black, kliff standing up unbelievably slowly, and that bizarre fucking delay before you can press any buttons after instancing in
the same fucking lack of ability to input that prevents the player from consistently performing a double jump
and again, in a game with zero input buffering
so you feel like nothing is happening regardless of what you do, and the game feels arbitrarily like its wrestling control from you
it does not feel great
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>>736502193
Yes it is.

>>736498120
>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs (that you can pilot fun fact) and dragons.

So far, you have not provided a single game and over an hour has passed.

With each passing minute you just further prove how non generic this game actually is.

Sad Status = Big
Blast Status = Not Having


Pssst
(Didn't read the rest of your post again. Not letting you shift the goalposts)
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>>736502421
I don't disagree, but it's not enough to outweigh the enjoyment I'm getting out of the game
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>>736502193
>lord of the rings has retroactively become somewhat generic
>retroactively become generic
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>>736501880
Where you at bro, show me the hook swing in AC that is as fleshed out as Crimson Desert. You're so buck broken by this game you're literally just saying anything at this point.
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>>736502293
yes, considering the game plants an ample amount of them around you and it actively speeds up ledge shimmying and acts like a ziplining tool and provides a quick way to transition into tightrope walking
its a fun tool that adds new stuff while being a direct upgrade to pre-existing mobility
also as i suggested it provided an interactive way to translate an enemy blocking/surround attempt into a new mobility opportunity
if you cant see the difference between that and
"100 different ways to get up a cliff" im sorry
also i hate all that shit and i think the slingshot is singlehandedly the best thing in CD
too fucking bad it has no bearing on combat
of which the hookblade does
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>>736502193
this retard genuinely believes CD is on UE5 btw.
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>>736502345
that's a solvable problem, they cant go back and retroactively change the entire visual design of the game in a patch. hardware performance necessarily trends upwards, so as things age they become easier to run. stuff like playstation 2 emulation is easy because of this. old playstation games retain their visual design and look good because they werent chasing extreme visual clarity and hyper realism, they were using the tools they had to make something that looks good, knowing that it isnt going to look perfectly like real life
CD will ALWAYS have this problem of having really awkward stylization because its trying to be literally a perfect recreation of real life, which it cant do with its hardware.
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>>736502512
>I don't disagree, but it's not enough to outweigh the enjoyment I'm getting out of the game
thats not the point i was making
i was implying boomers dont appreciate QoL so obviously they wont have the jank theyve lived with all their life suddenly feel like an issue in this game
which feels like its reinventing the wheel with all the pitfalls its falling into that other games in the past 30 years have iterated out of
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>>736502421
>>736502816
thanks for the confirmation that this game filters zoomshitters
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>>736502742
>CD will ALWAYS have this problem of having really awkward stylization because its trying to be literally a perfect recreation of real life
>a perfect recreation of real life
brother with how clunky the game is its triple-A QWOP
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>>736502816
As I said, I don't disagree, I just don't care.
The ultimate QoL feature is the game playing itself for you, at 10x speed.
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>>736502657
tl;dr

Show us a video of this hook in action that matches the free form nature of the hook swing in Crimson Desert. Don't yap about it, show it

>too fucking bad it has no bearing on combat

Nigga how many times are you gonna get proven wrong at this point, video related. Like is this shit a humiliation ritual? Why are you so mad over a game you CLEARLY haven't played. That's two things you've gotten blatantly wrong about this games basic mechanics and then you just spew out another paragraph after getting called out on your literal lies.

Go touch some grass, assuming it's not too generic looking for you you absolute fat faggot.
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>>736502742
So you're a tendie who's upset CD mogs BotW, got it
>they were using the tools they had to make something that looks good
Which is the case with CD, the game looks both realistic and good, you want a realistic game that looks like ass? Check DD2
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>>736502432
>high fantasy isnt even a qualifier for non generic
>"Yes it is."

so you mean to say scifi like halo, star wars, metroid, etc are generic?
modern thrillers are generic? stephen king's books are generic because they arent written in the forgotten realms?
even the historical basis for fantasy hasnt always been high fantasy, fucking gary gygax, the godfather of modern fantasy as we know it, the literal largest single influence on video games and RPGs due to his role in dungeons and dragons, wrote low and dark fantasy

the fucking temple of elemental evil shits all over crimson desert, and everything it stands for.
you and your obsession with eastern asians spits all over fantasy and fiction as genres, you have no knowledge of anything outside of the tip of your own dick.
you, and by extension every other blast haver for crimson desert, exist in a space where you cannot understand even the media you enjoy, you are like a pig in a pen, happily rolling around in shit.

i guess there really is no accounting for taste on this website, or anywhere else
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need 4+ more months of patches and fixes
currently unplayable for me, endless load screen after abyss puzzle,

basic fucking shit still broken
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CD looks good,
has passable gameplay,
the world is handcrafted and has stuff to explore

CD doesn't have a story worth paying attention to

if you want to explore shit, it's a good game,
if you want good gameplay it's mediocre,
if you want a story - it's bad
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>>736503361
The story's good, actually.
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>>736503206
>video related
or i can just faceplantthem lmao
same result
why is this an issue?
the only thing the game cares about is if its a boss
for human enemies its just
>doesnt matter what theyre doing, i can just ignore everything with the move regardless of context
it feels like im doing my thing

Which, only warframe people will know what im talking about but
this is an incredibly huge reason why the melee 2.0 system is overly dull, overly flowery, and feels disconnected from the rest of the game
WF should havve stuck to melee 1.0
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>>736502657
>too fucking bad it has no bearing on combat
Why are you typing paragraphs seething over a game you obviously haven't played? You absolutely can use the axiom force in combat to pull over enemies etc, you can even stun them and then use them as a personal swing.
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>>736503238
What game is that? It looks bad
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>>736503439
Nigga what are you even arguing now.

You just keep saying shit that's so easily proveably wrong and then you just
>yea, well, sure you can actually do the thing I lied and said you couldn't, but why would you

Because, and we go back to the core issue, it's a game for white men. You wouldn't get it. You're too brown coded to understand.
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>>736500585
Genshin Impact?! Is this game just Genshin with brown quasi realism filter?
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>>736503478
No idea. I just googled "UE5 games that flopped" and picked the first image on google.
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>>736503538
much like spics think posting dragon balls make them feel badass
i can only imagine roleplaying as christian bale makes youfeel handsome
none of that matters though, as we're doing more roleplaying than is allowed in crimson desert
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>>736503613
it's DD2 and it's not UE5 either you brown monkey
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>>736502395
Hello my white brother. I was once in the same place as you, but not anymore. I figured out the solution.
They have something we do not, but we can fix this with the power of one simple word.
If we simply pretend the thing they have is like all the other things, then we already have it too, don't we?
Then there is no reason to be mad, and the pain in the butt region will go away. I can even sit down again after trying this method.

The word is: generic.
Remember, if I don't have it: it's generic.

Look to your left.
Observe the thing that's there. Doesn't matter what it is. You have that thing, I don't.
This vexes me.
What do I do? I tell you: it's generic.
You are hereby BTFO. How can you ever recover? Well? Can you prove that thing it isn't generic?
No way. Nobody can prove a negative. Not even God. Our fortress of autism is unassailable, even by divine wrath.

Stay strong and don't give up, we will win in the end. Praise be to Allah.
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>>736503478
Dragon's Dogma 2
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>>736503645
Doo Doo 2?

Dunno what game that is, is it some poojeet game set in india for actual brown monkeys like yourself?
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>>736503206
A gazillion different attacks that are all functionally the same against shallow punching bags whose only real stat is if they got the bloat.
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>>736503684
my point is you people are fucking stupid
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>>736503635
> as we're doing more roleplaying than is allowed in crimson desert
Not a roleplaying game so that makes sense.

>i can only imagine roleplaying as christian bale makes youfeel handsome
Yikes, a literal gay brownoid too. Post your eyes, here's mine from yesterday >>736500798

You never replied in yesterdays thread when I asked you to show us those shit water eyeballs.
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>>736503763
that's my eyes not yours faggot but i approve of your message at least
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>>736503714
>A gazillion different attacks that are all functionally the same

Post your favorite open world game.
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>>736503714
How? How is a standard attack functionally the same as an attack that stuns or, in this case, an attack that allows you to drag in an enemy far away?
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>>736503361
I guess this is why it never clicked for me.
The gameplay is pretty boring.
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>>736503820
somebody already did this and you ignored it faggot
>>736498806
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>>736503714
unironically i can see the comparison to/why people shit on DmC5
>>736503820
>whataboutism
i really dont think anon should because then when they reply youll twist it into a "heh you moved the goalposts first" counterargument
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>>736503914
that faggot already got RAPED and OBLITERATED by this >>736499305 so try again.
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>>736503914
Nioh 3?

You mean that game where a gazillion different attacks that are all functionally the same against shallow punching bags whose only real stat is if they got the bloat.

That one? Does it even have vertical mobility? Pathetic
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>>736503884
because even in the scenario where you stun an enemy, or drag them away, it doesnt actually change how the combat plays
the NPCs run up to you if you move backwards, and stunning an enemy doesnt change anything about their behavior. its not like it forces them to drop their guard, or makes them stay still any longer than hitting them with a sword would
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>>736488910
this game wishes it was gothic just like it wishes it was botw
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>>736503958
>i really dont think anon should because then when they reply youll twist it into a "heh you moved the goalposts first" counterargument
Well yea because it's so painfully clear you've not played Crimson Desert that the following cycle has happened 3 times already:

>You will say thing
>You will get proven wrong with video proof
Examples:
>>736503206
>>736500585

>You then shift the goalposts by admitting you lied but then changing the argument into "Well, why would you do those things that I said you couldn't do"
Examples:
>>736503439
>>736500954

Maybe stop moving goalposts like a faggot or at least google shit about Crimson Desert before you say easily proveable lies and we'll stop calling you out?

I've never seen a game mindbreak someone as hard as Crimson Desert has broken yours
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>>736503645
>the joke flew over the squat kike like a bird at sea
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>>736503998
>3 line post
>with 2 lines about "i didnt play the game" while accusing people of not playing CD
lmao being uninformed goes both ways i guess
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>>736503970
you already said you would ignore any proof he posted, so why are you pretending like it mattered anyways?
that doesnt even address the comparison, its just a self insistent "i was right though"?

you would post the same at any game anyone would post, even if they linked their steam account with 60 hours of time in crimson desert because, "it isnt really their steam account!"
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>>736502193
>muh generic
Ask this retard to post specifics
(hint: xhe never will)
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>>736504204
>the joke made no sense so no one understood it
skill issue
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>>736504187
>I've never seen a game mindbreak someone as hard as Crimson Desert has broken yours
it's up there for sure, but E33 exists.
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>>736504224
Nah I played Nioh 3. Pic related. I just think Crimson Desert mogs it.

Don't ask me for anymore proof though, i'm at work. I just thought Nioh 3, especially the combat sucked because it's a game where a gazillion different attacks that are all functionally the same against shallow punching bags whose only real stat is if they got the bloat.
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>>736504325
why be specific about generics when thats what they are
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>>736503661
But white brother - what if they ask me to give an example of something that is not generic? Now I feel vulnerable and extra pained in the ass. I think I should just leave this thread before they do me an damage to the emotion.
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Idk guyz
The youtuber i agree with said it's very medicore and most of the time you are fighting same humanoid enemies and half the bosses are literal cubes and spheres with partical effects
Also I am not a fan of AAA "puzzles"
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>>736504372
Mb, forgot the picture

Nioh 3 is just kinda generic and basic. Bloated with mechanics, boring too. Crimson Desert is for sure better
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>>736504328
No, anon, it was just you
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>>736503820
Elden Ring
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>>736504325
>>736501113
>>"generic environment"
which can be defended by claiming its use of
>generic derivative historical architecture with zero attempts to change its stylization
>generic nordic/french population and historical gearing
>generic enemy design stolen 1:1 from other games like witcher
its utter lack of art direction or any sense of style outside of "make it look realistic"

it looks like witcher smashed with AC vallhalla and none of what makes those games interesting, like the major antagonists (wild hunt) or the background plot (artifact hunting and modern world intrigue)
its hard to point to a specific thing it "lacks" because that's the whole point, it LACKS it
fucking ESL morons
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>>736504372
i would never ask for proof its inconvenient
but unlike some tards who expect it i dont need to resort to shit flinging just because you prefer one set of mechanics or arent bothered by standards set by other games you may or may not have enjoyed
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>>736504047
>doesnt actually change how the combat plays
>its not like it forces them to drop their guard, or makes them stay still any longer than hitting them with a sword would
It quite literally does, attacking an enemy with a great shield with just a sword, for example, results in your attacks getting blocked and doing no damage, if you stun them instead then they can't block and your attacks actually connects, same with enemies that use guns and bows, they will run away and keep distance to shoot at you so dragging them in works better than chasing them around all over the place with your sword, so all of the game's combat mechanics can be used to face the game's challenges in the way you wish to do so

The fact that you still choose to run and smack everything with a basic atttack doesn't mean the game is bad, it just means you're a retard
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>>736504473
buckbroken and seething shitskin monkey everyone laugh at this faggot ahahahahahaha
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>>736504473
>inb4 poo poo pee pee childish insult as a comeback
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>>736504325
Nta but generic usually means lack of its own flair
Dark souls is obviously grim dark and decaying
Tw3 takes a lot of aesthetic from it's folk tales
KCD despite being realistic has certain style of architecture and outfits based on the region and time period
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>>736504187
Elden Ring broke a lot of the weaker bandwagon shazamfags
Now all thats left are the asylum tier shazamschizos. Every big game nowadays has one
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>>736504446
Elden Ring has dogshit combat with a gazillion different attacks that are all functionally the same
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>>736504516
>attacking an enemy with a great shield with just a sword, for example, results in your attacks getting blocked and doing no damage, if you stun them instead then they can't block and your attacks actually connects

this is just factually incorrect, it literally doesnt do this, and i know because i tried it half a dozen times fucking YESTERDAY
enemies "blocking attacks" doesnt mean anything because they die in the same number of hits regardless
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>>736504364
>Le artsy b/w faggots
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>>736504473
Lemme repost what has already been said to you:

>Find me an open world game setting in a high fantasy world that has trains, robotic mechs and dragons

Still waiting. It's nearly been 2 hours since you were originally asked.
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>>736504715
look up what "Clair Obscur" means anon
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>>736504536
>>736504604
ok, so it is generic then, you have nothing to add that would actually change anything about what i said?
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>>736504743
Zelda, duh
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>>736504743
Arcanum
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>>736504810
i do not discuss games that i am playing with people who have not played them yet still insist they are bad. so no, i will simply call you a darkie and continue on with my day.
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>>736504630
>KCD despite being realistic has certain style of architecture and outfits based on the region and time period
KCD gets a pass because its actually trying to simulate a period
>generic norse-coded aesthetic
>but not really
>also with many technical inaccuracies
is borderline "this triggers my uncanny valley resposne"
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>>736504743
yes, we know you hate fantasy as a concept and only exist to be a cocksleeve for korean gooks, post something original
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>>736504630
You're confusing "reminds me of something" with generic. Show me one game that looks like CD. Just post it. It's a weak claim because anyone can say dark souls is generic dark medieval fantasy and derivative of berserk.
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>>736504675
This is a straight up lie, enemies will literally block your attacks, you can of course break their blocking depending on the attack you do and how they're blocking but they can block and even parry you
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So, what's the most undeservedly shilled game on this god forsaken place in the last 4 years...?

My bet is on this game and it's not even close - and only reason it got this far is thanks to sub 80 IQ Nigger Wars.
Chud game = soulless&cynical
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>>736504743
Just adding trains to a fantasy world doesn’t make it uniqu
That’s just one feature
What matters is how the whole world feels
its culture, history, tone, and how things connect
Otherwise it’s still generic with a train pasted on

To put it simply it's generic in it's DNA and now amount of wacky shit will make it interesting
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>>736504873
>can't into meme arrowing right
It seems you just have an issue with "nordic" things, you silly goof
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>>736504983
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>>736504872
so why are you leaving then, i've played it and it lacks anything that would be a compelling piece of world building or narrative

you havent even mentioned the the abyss (sky islands), which would be the actual thing you talk about if you wanted to argue the game isnt generic, or the architecture, or the scenery or the magical ornaments and objects, but you evidently havent played the game, and I have, so why are you lying? are you really just here to shitpost for free? about a game you obviously dont play? that you probably dont even like? do you even have a PC?
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>>736504662
Lol, that it does not. The properties of every attack can be valuable because enemies in turn have infinitely more complex ways they can hurt you and neutralize your own attacks.
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>>736504870
You fucking done it. You found a game that fit all those definitions. A 2001 isometric RPG.

I was actually starting to think myself if one even existed. Fuck that game was kino too
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>>736505086
so Dark Souls 2 is generic
KCD2 is generic
ToTK is generic
RDR2 is generic
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>>736505105
my 105 hours and blue eye are in the thread multiple times, anon. you just have shit taste and are either a zoomer, a brown, or a fag. that's okay, the game just isn't for you.
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>>736505064
It's not just trains, that's just an example, you have huge flying ships, the mechanic mount, some asian stuff, etc.
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>>736505105
There it is.

That's my steam image btw.

Prove me wrong by standing ontop of a roof holding a food item of your choice.

Just like in yesterdays thread, you won't because you're seething over a game you haven't played.
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>>736505105
>10 hours
Also no one is contesting that the game's worst aspect is its story-telling, world building and setting. Rather, it is great despite it - and a great reminder to all the ghouls out there, that story means jack shit if the game isn't fun to play.
>tl;dr CD is ratpoison to the troon-rat
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>IT GETS GOOD 100 HOURS IN
nah
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>>736488257
You fucking zoomers need to realize that not everything is meant for you, you dont have to like everything, and that just because you dont like something doesnt mean its objectively bad.
The solipsism in your generation is unreal, certainly the result of your absurdly high estrogen levels.
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>>736505241
Yes for the most part
Bohemia is real so no
There's an actual consistent artstyle so no
The Wild West is real so no
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>>736505304
>Noooo you have to buy the game to prove it looks generic
Are you retarded?

>>736505247
Again you don't understand,
Art direction isn't adding bunch of stuff in UE5 template
It's about every door, every house and every single outfit
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>>736505616
>UE5
are you fucking brain damaged
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>>736505304
Here's my image to show how quick and easy it is too do

Surely you'll be able to post the same

Now when you fail to do what I asked, ask yourself why you feel the need to lie about having played a game. Is your argument not strong enough on its own merits?
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>>736505241
How's totk generic?
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>>736505529
>Bohemia israel
>The Wild West israel
They really have taken over everything.
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>>736505710
Meds
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>>736505616
But you own the game? >>736505105

You're the one who started it by posting a screenshot of your steam playtime to prove you own a game you so clearly do not own. Why did you do that?
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>>736505695
Generic Grass
Generic Mountains
Generic Clouds
Generic Elves (Tolkien did it first)
Generic Furfaggotry (R34 did it first)
Generic rocks.

It's just generic bro, like crimson desert.
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>>736505659
Are you too stupid understand examples?
If you add a dragon PNG over that default Windows wallpaper, it doesn’t suddenly become a stylized image
it’s still a generic image with a dragon on it
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>>736505695
Because it looks like botw, which means it looks like something that isnt totk, which means its generic, duh.
Majoras mask is also generic btw
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>>736505843
you aren't backpedaling out of this one fuckwit, you dont know SHIT about this game you fucking think its on UE5 like the rest of the antishills. KYS
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>>736505758
Idk what you are talking about, I started by saying the game looks fucking generic and bland
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>>736505939
It looks a UE5 games
That's what I said
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The hogwarts of this year
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>>736506021
i have eyes you lying nigger
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>>736505529

Total War: Medieval II had a Bohemia campaign and it released in 2006. KCD is generic
TotKs cell shader art style was done before (and better) by Okami
RDR2s setting was done in Gun before it.

All generic games. Cry about it
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>>736505529
>it's consistent because I say so
No.
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>>736505939
>antishills
Absolute state of cd shills
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>>736506139
you lost and got raped, buckbroken western industry shill, aka Crimson Desert ANTISHILL
see you in the next thread to rape you once again.
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>>736506052
So use them and look at your beloved game
It looks like an UE5 games that uses a lot of default assets
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>>736506218
What game doesn't look generic.
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>>736506063
All Tarantino films have similarities
but they aren’t generic.
Learn to use your brain.
Generic means basic
everything in CD looks basic
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>>736506218
>It looks like an UE5 games
keep saying this in every thread so you can immediately kill your dumbfuck arguments, thanks!



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