>We should be happy, and we are as long as we’re focused on the game we’re playing and not the industry that’s collapsing around it. Marathon’s commercial success, measured by outsiders mostly by the number of people Steam shows is actively playing the game at any given moment, has no bearing on our enjoyment. But I can’t help but follow those numbers because they are a reminder of how brutal the video game industry is right now, where it might be headed, and how viable Marathon and games like it are in the future. >We don’t know how much Marathon cost to develop or what Sony Interactive Entertainment, which owns Bungie and is publishing the game, wants from it. The game has been a critical success, has reportedly sold 1.2 million copies, and players who have latched onto it like myself love how Bungie has been updating and balancing it after release. People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters. >Adding to this player count anxiety is the fact that the video game industry appears to be going through what is increasingly looking like a proper crash. I don’t think we’ll ever have another near extinction event like the video game crash of 1983, where for a moment it didn’t seem like video games would even continue to be a thing, but a full one third of game developers in the U.S. were laid off last year, and the huge layoffs just keep on coming. Folks, it's not looking good. The industry will lose something it can never get back if we let this game die...
somehow this is my fault
>>736657403>Marathon is a great game for uncsAh yeah, microtransaction battle pass slop riding the latest trend (Extraction shooter). So unc.
>>736657403>The game has been a critical successMeaning it got sucked off by journowhores.
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.the fuck they isthis shit has characters?
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.Hang journalists holy shit
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMBEEEEEEEEEERSI'll admit it matters for a live service game for obvious reasons. That just means live service games are soulless, as well as numberfagging player numbers.
why do they uncs not play the game they bought tho
>>736657516It's a last ditch attempt to save it by luring in gooners. Overwatch was carried by porn. It didn't work when Randy Pitchford tried it to save battleborn and it won't work this time either.
OOF
>>736657403Our friends at Remap Radio have spoken at length about why discussions about player numbers teach us little about games and are often toxic. Part of the reason that games like Concord and Highguard can crash and burn so quickly is that the numbers become a self-fulfilling prophecy. There’s skepticism about the game before it launches, and when it fails to go viral, people write it off because why would they invest their time in an online game with player numbers that signal imminent and unceremonious execution by its financial backers, which only leads to even lower player numbers. It also shifts the conversation entirely away from what the game is, what people like about it, and why, and to its business model, infecting players with the quarterly earnings report view of the world. Games and players become expressions and subjects of business models, and the part where we play games because we enjoy them are reduced to a curious byproduct of Sony’s Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization. Games from major publishers become either mega hits or are quickly slapped with the “dead game” label before they’re taken offline. What the game actually was is barely relevant. You did thisYou are an economic terroristWhen we take culture back you are going to fucking prisonWe'll find and make all of you pay
>>736657403>those numbers because they are a reminder of how brutal the video game industry is right nowWha the FUCK does that mean? Your game sucks and no one plays. The “game industry” is crashing because trannies are making these games. Period.
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.they are?I haven't seen shit>>736657640>You did thisI didn't do anything though
>>736657640If you just made a game that wasn't shit we'd have paid already.
>>736657403>normie media using uncs now
jews really think they can push games solely on marketing like other media types, but it isn’t working
these threads make me think that game journalists care more about vidya than /v/
>>736657403Oh no we will lose another concord
VERY NSFW, but I have received reports that MarathonRule34 is now a thing on Reddit. LINK WITH CAUTION: reddit.com/r/MarathonRule34
>>736657687>game journalists care (..) about vidya
>>736657687What a retarded conclusion. Game journos care more about promoting trans kids and niggers, they don’t give a rat’s ass about video games, wtf are you talking about?
>>736657771Marathon is a video game, not a black trans kid
>>736657771Don't ask questions just consume product then get excited for next product.
>>736657403MODS ban this guy
>>736657687>You have to like bad games or else you don't care about games!kys.
>>736657403But I didn't do anything?
>>736657403[Sad Jews] Grooming Game Roundly Rejected: This is the Holocaust but Real
>>736657871No the sane course of action after encountering a bad game is to ignore itYou don't have to like it or play it
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.What a bizarre thing to complain.
>>736657627BELOW THE PREVIOUS BOT FLOOR LMAO
>>736657971>You're not allowed to criticise bad games either!kys.
>>736657687Eat shit Travis
Why did journos get so conjoined to this game anyway? As far as I can tell there isn't even any progressive content in it? Note that my impression of it is that it's dumb robots that bleed green shooting at each other and nothing else. Is it literally because this might be one of the final Western AAA games (besides gta vi), since even the article admits that sector is collapsing? It would explain why they wanted to take down Crimson Desert so badlyNote: everything I play is Japanese. I do not care about the performance of Crimson Desert, or Marathon for the matter
>>736657403>great game for uncsGoddamn it I hate everything about this retarded timeline.
>>736657971Why do you jews always call everyone insane when schizophrenia is a jewish disease caused by jewish inbreeding?
>>736657992This is just pure schadenfreude that's been going on for a month now, not constructive criticism
>>736658073You ignored the constructive criticism idiot, now you get the mockery
>>736658073People are allowed to say whatever the fuck they want about the game. You don't have to listen but we will not censor our views just because you don't like what we have to say.
>>736658103Yes this is mockery, which brings us back to my first post, journos care more about vidya
>>736657640>You did thisI did?
The true cascade effect will happen soon, the fewer players the game will have the longer the queue times, once queues start becoming like 8+ minutes people will leave to play something else
>>736658029>Why did journos get so conjoined to this game anyway?It's the access media grift, which is particularly incestuous when it comes to west coast USA.
>>736658163Yeah and because the game seems to be failing attracting new players, soon there will also be a deficit of existing players who just grow bored of the game
>>736658143No, they care about being in the good graces of the big publishers. They are grifters.
>>736658143Eat shit Travis
>>736657687fucking lmao
>>736658029Bungie is turbowoke and its devs are deeply entwined with the gaming journo clique
>>736657971taking a job you know makes your community worse is morally wrong. blame the developers for enabling this shit
>>736658053You VILL talk like a retarded crackhead hood nigger and you VILL like it.
>>736658143That's exactly >>736658162like saying you jews care more about your child victims than the parents of the victims. You journalists care about harming and corrupting and consuming the industry, yes. We just want to play video games.
>>736658469Sorry Chuddah didn't mean to link you just that jew
I suspect the real reason journalists write so much about this game is because articles about it get better engagement.
>>736658517I forgive you.
>>736658029>Why did journos get so conjoined to this game anyway? They actually played it>As far as I can tell Yeah why playing games>dumb robots that bleed greenImpressive, you didn't even play the trailer on youtube>It would explain why they wanted to take down Crimson DesertOr maybe Crimson Desert is just shit, thus the divide between the Steam score of the two games
>>736658565Thanks!
>>736657403NO THIS IS SO UNFAIR YOU ENTITLED GAMERS RUINED YET ANOTHER PERFECTLY SELLABLE PRODUCT!
>>736658536that would explain why they advertise their articles here
>>736658569Eat shit Travis
>>736657403so funny that gaming "journalists" will pretend to love the most generic dogshit slop there is when it's made by people they like, you never see them defending shit like call of duty or sports games like this
>>736658641Who?
>>736658723Exactly. It's all a massive fucking scam.
>>736658723>so funny that gaming "journalists" will pretend to love the most generic dogshit slop there is Uh? Did Crimson Desert get high review scores?>>736657818Don't ask questions just give me views while I complain about product and get upset about next product.
how did a multi billion dollar company that spend 100 million on marketing and that had all the journalists in their bag lose to a green line? lets hope valve doesn't cuck to the incoming media campaign against player numbers on steam
>>736658897What is it with marathon fags being ass mad about crimson desert?
>>736657687I do care about gaming.But those games are old enough to drink
>>736658903The green line is a symptom, not the cause.
>>736658897>when it’s things they likejournos hate asians because they dared to make attractive women. stellar blade is 100x better than marathon even if you hate it on a political level
Don't care, still blasting off
>>736657403stop reposting crappy opinions by nobodys and paid shills only retards like you keep them relevant
Sony got trolled so hard by Bobby Kotick when he duped them in to buying Bungie for eleventy billion dollars. Bungie could course correct by admitting their shitty FPS games and they should stop making them but they won't Bungie doesn't know how to do anything but shitty FPS games. Halo was single-handedly responsible for dumbing down the entire FPS genre thanks Bungie.
>>736657403SHIT GAMES DONT DESERVE PEOPLES MONEY
>>736659225/thread
>>736657403Oh, so Steam charts are good now, Mr Journostein?
This game man, the aesthetic is actually really great but everything else is so lame
How the fuck is a game seemibgly beloved by players and critics flopping this hard?When was the last time this happened? Titanfall 2? But even that was released next to big competition.
>>736659378Softlocked on me trying to fill crew
>>736659408Then shit on me. The random stuff in the tutorial area was actually pretty cool but trying to play this as designed is bullshit.
>>736658598lmao accurate"sellable product" is exactly how they think
>>736659404because its not actually good
>>736659404Because its niche, turns out an ultra competitive PvP centric trio based time sink with a 3 month mandatory wipe is not appealing to most people.
>>736659404because jews and trannies and uhh uh black gay guys and uhh
>>736657687they probably do since its their career. they cant exactly give up on it entirely on account of becoming too gay and boring. for me ive just been spending my money on airsoft stuff and running around the woods with all sorts of new gay friends
>>736657771>immediate /pol/troon sperging proved him 100% right lmao don't check the IP count in this thread btw, half of it is one guy with the same columbian IP that's always in these threads
>>736657687Is that why they're too busy circlewagoning a dying game than showcasing better ones?
>>736657516That line was so weird. If I was a professional journalist I wouldnt write that sentence. Or if I was an editor I wouldve cut it out.
>Make a game in a niche genre>Make it even less accessible than other games in the genre (which is already the most unaccessible genre out there)>"Why don't we have a lot of players?!"Well gee, that's a real headscratcher right there! This is like ARMA trying to compete with CoD.
>>736658163Its stabilizing retardItll be back to 30k when cryo opens up
>>736660087They are all jewish californians, they think they can manipulate da goyim with pornography.
>>736660185HOLD ON TIGHT BLAST HAVERS WE'RE GOING DOWN
>>736657403>Marathon is a great game for uncsnot being an ironic zoomer or anything, but that's legitimately embarrassing to read, yet it's actually true, it seems to be an unc game and they need to fix that if they want it to survive
>critical successMore like it was successful in putting it in critical condition
>>736660167You forgot the word "terrible" in those descriptions. The game is terrible in every respect. Not even the retards shilling it play it.
>>736659456Played a round and went right back to CS. 20 minutes of walking around in a fucking fps. Zamn
>>736660202And they can, too. Like 85% of this board's content is porn, and the average /vtard thinks big anime tits means gaming is healing.
>>736660465Told me crew I was having a blast. They let me die. Lmao
>>736657686Kek. I picked one random gooner bait stats, wuthering waves. Think again. They are just using the wrong kind of marketing.
>>736660269It's not an unc game at all. No gamer dad will ever see the boss or even enter the cryo archives.The game is failing because it is too draconian, which is the opposite of an unc game. And also because it just isn't a very good or balanced game, but that one is obvious.
>>736660729Just take the L.
>>736657403JUSTLETITDIE
>>736658029Sony money. They also all waited to review the game for 2 weeks so that they could release a new map
>>736657403>[Sad News]oh no no no no... blast havers?
>>736657673>I didn't do anything thoughEXACTLY YOU FUARKING CHUDDHA!THAT'S TERRORISM!
>>736657959Kek
>>736658903>100 million on marketingi'm suprised that i heard more about this game here than on any of the gaming related accounts on jewtube and social media... how did they manage to spend that much money? Is 4chan promotion/advertisement that expensive?
>>736662247Journos and Sweet Baby racketeers aren't cheap
>>736658968they lose potential runners who could either be with them or against them in marathon because of that chinkchonk game thus making them not have blast as often as possible
>>736660185>when cryo opens upWho puts their playerbase in cryogenic sleep like Walt Fucking Disney?
>>736657403Game journalists are truly the worst.
>>736662306so they just paid all that money for nothing?it's like someone wasting 80% of their saving just to buy bullets and shoot himself and then complain why he's in pain
of those supposed 25k steamiggers im assuming like 15k is botted if not like 24k
>>736657627Should I buy it before the servers shut down and it will lost media?
>>736662452it's actually 30k but 5k bots can't log in or got banned for having offensive usernames accidentaly generated
>>736657651>The “game industry” is crashing because trannies are making these games. Period.Don't forget HR girl-bosses and DEI minorities.But yes, it's mostly true (one glance at Asia makes it obvious what the problem is), but journos can't say that - it's as close to heresy as you can get in 2026.Hence the pivot to "1983 game industry crash" discourse.
>>736657403>the industry that’s collapsing around itgood let it collapse asap. We need another video game crash if we ever want good games again.When GTA 6 will inadvertently fail I hope it's the final coffin for the industry.total triple-a deathtotal game journo deathtotal gaas death
>>736657403>Journo desperate for clicks>Posts rage bait like "I don't care that x is y, I'm having a blast'>Month later need clicks again>Posts rage bait like"OMG it really was doomed all along and now I'm sad"Holy fuck you guys, stop doing these people's job for them.
>>736658029They're all in bed with bungie. Bungie is the wokest game dev on the planet. So they were very cozy with journos. Many bungie devs are ex journos as well. They really want bungie to succeed because it symbolizes their ideals.
>>736657437And it is. Marathon has lost billions of dollars because (You) aren't buying it. How is this not the fault of the market?
Isn't the game more on the hardcore side in the first place
>>736657437Why didn't you do something?
>>736657403>Marathon is a great game for uncsUh maraxisters? I thought this was a teen game, we're the marateens! What do you mean younger audiences don't want to play our game?
>>736662710More prosaically : the "game journos to game industry consulting roles" is a major yet not much discussed thing in the west. Hence the rampant corruption in game journalism - even if there is no immediate and obvious transfert of money.
>>736657651While this is true, it's also related to the global stock market heading towards a financial crisis now that the AI bubble is popping (the narrative is in place and Sam Altman was ragebaiting all this time to setup his shorts). Studios that failed to make good games and even those that did might start dropping like flies over the course of this and next year.
>>736657403>one third of game developers in the U.S. were laid off last yearif it's a crash specific to US alone, is it a crash at all? other countries seem to be doing fine
>>736657403>The game has been a critical success, has reportedly sold 1.2 million copies, and players who have latched onto it like myself love how Bungie has been updating and balancing it after release. People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters. lmao what the fuck? is he complaining about the horny fan art or is he using it as a reason the game is successful? it's so randomly inserted in the article it almost seems accidental.
>>736657403>>Adding to this player count anxiety is the fact that the video game industry appears to be going through what is increasingly looking like a proper crash. I don’t think we’ll ever have another near extinction event like the video game crash of 1983, where for a moment it didn’t seem like video games would even continue to be a thing, but a full one third of game developers in the U.S. were laid off last year, and the huge layoffs just keep on coming.I wonder who is the cause of this?
Back 4 Blood still somehow has 1000 players to this day.
Ironic how the shills have to constantly change narratives cause their sloppathon failed so hard when they were bragging at launch that they would overtake Arc Raiders look at you now, even a 10 year old game is doing betterAnd no fuck you Bungie and shills, you deserve the mockery cause you were also responsible for the biggest flop in history cause you convinced Sony with your """"expertise"""" to buy Firewalk studio and go all in on Concord and it would be the next Fortnite
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.crazy that now journalists admit this is a measure of success. pendulum swinging back.but also>Emanuel Mai(((berg)))
>>736658363thisbungie:>don't post a review until we tell you to, it's not a request or mandate btw *wink wink*all journos:>ok
>>736657403I had legitimately already forgotten about this game>Already down to 8000 playersOH NO NO NO
>>736657687>these threads make me think that game journalists care more about vidya than /v/These threads make me think that if you hire games journalists to shill your game, it will have the opposite effect.
>>736662913It's an unparalleled competency crisis. The torch from nerd shut ins was passed to uni indoctrinated activists and this is the late stage results of gamergate. This is what happens when men don't protect their spaces.
>>736662937That's a small indie game maratroon is AAAA
>>736657403You don't have to keep poasting this garbage journobot
>>736657403>crash>Crimson Desert sold over 4 million at a $70 price point>StS2 2 sold some unknown absurd amount on the back of its Chinese localization>as much as it pains me to admit, Sony's annual cinemaslop also sells fine>Nintendo first parties also doing fine despite being overpriced on already outdated hardwareHonestly, doesn't look like a crash to me. It looks like one particular segment (GaaS) in one region (America) is suffering. Maybe it's not a crash, but just a misalignment with the market after a failure to pivot after some dipshit executives put together a slide deck showing green lines based on Covid growth which obviously wasn't going to continue. But I'm just an anonymous retard on /v/, these journalists surely know better than me.
>>736657403>The game has been a critical success, has reportedly sold 1.2 million copiesit's overlike I remember laughing at Assassin's Creed: Black Lives Matter "3 gorillion active players" but now it's "units sold".nothing satisfies those companies and their shareholders/investors...
>>736662913France has also had a lot of video game layoffs.
>>736663491Sony’s shit does not do fine. Per their own reports, their in house stuff operates at a negative but they come back to being positive through third party mtx. Shit like CoD, Genshin, sportsball shit, finances the rest of Playstation.
>>736657971>No the sane course of action after encountering a bad game is to ignore itLying faggot. Gamers have been mocking bad games for decades. The same applies to movies and books
>>736663826Spiderman 2 did over 11 million and GoW Ragnarok did over 15 million, most of their single player games do fine. If Ghost of Yotei underperformed, that's the odd one out in the Snoy slopverse.
>>736657640I sure did. All because you killed titanfall for that fotm apex legends trash. And all I had to do was literally nothing.
>The game has been a critical success, has reportedly sold 1.2 million copiesLulz
>>736657403Who cares more about marathon, fans or haters?
>>736663593Because they need to count uplay players somehow.
>BungieYou unironically deserve it for believing anything this company claims
>>736658897Is this slowed down?
The primary profiteer from the release of marathon is either game journos getting bribed, brownoids being paid to shill and yt grifters and talking heads
>>736665221Watching the green line gave me enough entertainment that I didn't buy Crimson Desert. I saved $70, I think that's kind of like profit.
>>736658029>there isn't even any progressive content in it?it's woke as fuck retard. KYS now
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.
Its YOUR fault the game is flopping. You are actively deterring normal people from playing the game because of YOU falsely claiming the game is shit, when its actually a very good game. A good game is dying because you haters cant stop talking about how "bad" the stupid steam chaets player count is. I hope you are happy.
The game is 40 dollar pvp online only season pass cash shop dogshit, why are people surprised its a flop?
>>736657403Well the retarded niggers that play the game decided that this is the hardcore PvP extraction shooter because they're so desperate to not be Arc Raiders. It's a game where everyone who started earlier will have a statistical advantage on top of game knowledge. There's no reason to jump in to a game like this late unless you enjoy slamming your head into a brick wall, the only place for it to go until a reset is down, and no one should be faulted for not wanting to jump into this kind of game a month after release.
The thousandth extraction shooter released this week isn't doing well! Who would have thought? Where are the 2 billion players hungry for extraction shooters to soak up all this junk we throw at them every day? Ahhhhh, I'm going to lose my mind! Extraction shooters! Ahhhh! That's where the money is! Shareholders, invest another hundred billion in extraction shooters, and I promise you'll get a trillion in return!
>>736660602it's a porn website you fucking retard.
>>736666752unlike randy bobandy the art is actually natural from the community and not forced shit he personally commissioned
Marathon is a good game, but it is what it is, man. They have to improve the content. It's not hard to fix, and literally anything is better than Arc Raiders.
>>736658029>Note that my impression of it is that it's dumb robots that bleed green shooting at each otherthey aren't robots and they bleed blue, how do you manage to be blind and dumb simultaneously?>anime characteroh that's how
>>736667280It's literally D2 crucible battle royale which is also the same animations and gunplay concord used believe it or not. Literally 10 year old gunplay.
>>736667354Uh oh, melty.
>>736667316Lol your slop flopped, lmao @ ur life what a loser
>>736657403Dead by July at the latest. Shut down by christmas.
marathon is very fun when you cheat in it, its pretty satisfying to rob people of their gear with an unfair advantage
jannies are deleting threads that are making fun of this game btw
>>736667501Good, move on
>>736657403I like how they feign ignorance on the connection of steam player numbers to other platforms. I like how they also blame the "industry" meanwhile crimson desert which is a single player game not only is maintaining its numbers it is actually increasing and selling more copies as we speak. Its the complete opposite of Marathon. And even more funny, has a much smaller budget. Hopefully Bungie goes away for good. They have 1 good game in their history and that was Destiny 1.
Why are muttoids so inept, why can't they make a good product, maybe they're too busy getting high on fent
>>736658267They care about being in Sony's good graces specifically.
>>736667476Where do I get cheats for it? I would spend $40 plus a tip to the Chinese or Russian gentleman making the hack to aim bot someone then call them a nigger over voice.
>>736667564Fent is so 2023. It's tranq now, loser.
>>736667415It doesn't work when you do it rakesh. We can tell you have no soul. Your family will reincarnate as tortoises.
>>736662649They are providing a service for us:Entertainment
>>736667714Nice try, Rahul. We can tell you're trying imitate soul, just like a Korean game with a Westoid theme.
>>736667316In that dude's defence, there's a bunch of poorly explained "color blind palette" options and there seems to be no default selection. So if you go in and click it and try to reset it you end up with some unexpected palette. Combined with garish art style, there's no way to know what the fuck color anything is supposed to be.
>>736663603That's all Ubisoft circling the toilet.
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.oh NOW the horny are the good guys?
>>736667883Lol stop looking at the numbers racis chud pissbaby
>>736667914Stop trying rakesh, Marathon is dead, let it go. I doubt the pay is even worth it anymore.
>>736667631>then call them a nigger over voice.There's gotta be some kind of AI autocensor at work. I have a mildly offensive steam handle and the game picked up on the instantly, and some green sauce chat got me automuted. This was a match with some dude who I think was some kind of community organizer for Bung and another foreign dude who said nothing at all but seemed to be on TS/vent with the Bung employee.
CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 CONCORD 3 lmao
>>736667280>Marathon is a good gameIt is mid at best. Gunplay feel like every other shooter on the market, if not a little clunkier. The maps are awful, standard extraction shooter factions, awful quests, awful grind. AI is a chore to fight through and not interesting.Yeah wonder why this game is failing.
>>736667883seethe all you want, it will never bring marathon back from the dead
>>736657403Why are journos sooooo willing and eager to die on this hill, I really don't get it. They don't do this with games often, why do they care so fucking much lmao none of these people even work at bungie, so what the fuck's the deal
>abloobloobloo the game industry is dying>meanwhile a silly indie card game has 300k playersdeath to AAA slop
>>736658029>As far as I can tell there isn't even any progressive content in it?It doesn't seem any more progressive than UT99 as far as setting and characters go. I'm just a casual pubby so maybe all the subversive shit drops in the endgame. The age cohort that journos are in are people that got into gaming when the fat XB was released. Seeing Bungie on a product is just nostalgia. They're the videogame equivalent of Disney adults.
>>736668546where do you think that marketing budget is going
>>736657403If it's a single player game, player numbers don't matter. But if it's a live service competitive online game, you can't ever dip below 10k concurrent or your game's pretty much unplayable. 10-15k players is what I would call the very bottom of the barrel "fine", but below that and you're in dire straits.
>>736668640That's so pathetic lol, never thought I'd see the day where bungie becomes a loser company unironically full of sensitive homos and sissies.
>>736668546They're literal paid shills. They also all delayed their reviews until the 4th map came out two weeks after. That's unprecedented.
Maybe don't make games that need to sell 20 million copies to break even then, fagniggers
how the fuck is a multiplayer game with one map and one mode so expensive to make lmao, it's actually unreal. game devs spend more money making games with less features than games did 20 years ago
>>736669012Gotta pay all those DEI retard for years
>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters It worked for BA. Not that safe horny is going to save Marathon.
>>736657478Well, it's correct in the sense the only people wasting money on microtransactions for homoerotic self-hating shit like this are 30 year old boomers. Zoomers pay for heterosexual fanservice.
>>736669012Because.. well... um... BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OK CHUD?
>>736669012Dev teams are now always 1000+ size teams for the sole reason that investors see big number and think big popular game.Said dev teams are now always fragmented across several countries with wildly differing time zones, with very incompetent managers who cannot actually keep up with this. Literally a ton of game development these days is waiting for a manager in some other distant part of the world actually get around to giving you something to do.
>>736669012They're certainly not spending it on assets. The environments and models are very low poly. They made some clever direction decisions to hide it, and it seems that they're relying on TAA to hide verts. You can set AA to Off in the settings and it's jaggy shit everywhere. The sewer entrance in the tutorial map goes from a nice rounded circle to a 32-vert circle. Like they've got some kind of DLSS5 built in. AA doesn't smooth out models usually. Game performs decently well on a 5090, but scales for shit, like it's always CPU bound. Maybe all the money went into the engine?
>>736669012Paid mental breakdown for the trannystaff when they need a week off from having read a mean tweet + daily supply of deluxe barista slop for the entire office.
>>736669289Nexon had to pay people to draw art so they could force trends.Bungie is too busy paying journos
>>736669012It really is baffling. It is not like these are expansive and highly detailed maps, two of them are straight unextextured grey blobs. They're all super small. They have one map which is proper extraction shooter size.
>>736669354> Maybe all the money went into the engine?We all know where the money went - and that’s the reason why the western vg industry is failing : women daycare and foreign biomass uplifting.
>>736669012The true is that Bungie is the most incompetent dev team ever you can just look at Destiny and see how they take months for a single patch
>>736669343There is also the unfucking time spent. >Outsource stuff to shitty devs>Your few remaining actual decent guys spend days unfucking it rather than doing any work themselvesSpeaking from personal experience here.
>>736657403>full one third of game developers in the U.S. were laid off last year,stop, I can only get so erect!
>>736669354I'm too technically illiterate with modern slop but that reminds me of Final Fantasy 16 where TAA is forced and you can't turn it off, which means even in cutscenes you have constant fucking ghosting and blurry backgrounds
>>736669012I wondered that too. There are hours in the day where they have like 8% as many employees as total players of all their games on Steam (though definitely more on Playstation and XBox).
>>736658029>As far as I can tell there isn't even any progressive content in it?Every character is trans. The plot revolves around modifying your new body.
>>736669685The DLSS implementation is horrendous, yeah, fuckloads of smearing even at highest quality. Game feels so sluggish and slow that they made a good decision to not ship it with FG. You can turn TAA off and the image gets a bit crisper, but there's something under the hood going on where the AA (TAA, DLAA, whatever) is fucking with model verts. Like they're somehow using it as a cheap geometry shader. Never seen anything like it.
lmao
>>736667883>periodically drive by and laugh at a tire fire>bungie's dialation commisar has to pull a triple shift dealing with all the meltdowns
>>736669012I can't comprehend it.Call of Duty 4 was made by like 70 people, took 2 years in development, half-way through they restarted the campaign development and it was considered AAA.An online only game should never take more than 3 years.The most popular online games started as mods. Counter Strike, Dota, PUBG. Especially PUBG, that was doing massive numbers in early access.Even Fortnite battle royale was made in 2 months, in attempt to save the original Fortnite, that was a flop.
>>736669012My only guess is that as these studios get more and more corporate the administration bloat eclipses the ability to do productive work. Every company has like 3 useless retards who push papers for every 1 guy actually making the company money. I can't imagine how bad it is with the videogame industry when a game studio has 5 dev sites across several continents and a good chunk of them are third worlders to cut costs.
>>736670395>I can't comprehend it.It seems most likely that they're just not getting much productivity out of employees. Whether that's because they are lazy, demoralized, entitled...or whether it's because management sucks...is not clear to me. But they did like 5% of the work that they could have done. It's just an efficiency issue. Add to that the extra layers of DEI and HR and there's contention with additional political obstacles that don't help to create a product.
>>736657687I mean maybe you're right. After spending over a decade of social engineering to transform the videogame industry into this thing it is right now, it would make sense that game journalists care more about this shambling zombie than actual gamers.
>>736670395that's just classic bungie, they stuck in old mmo development cycles and barely can scrape any content for seasonal updates, they would absolutely not be able to keep up with proper seasonal games like PoE, but in the world where GaaS is mostly gachas that pump out new content on weekly basis they stick out like a rusty nail and simply don't belong. Hubris at it's finest, they have their heads in the sand and ears in the echo chamber, they think of themselves as a fucking nintendo visionaries and no negativity in the dojo, we're cooking new reskin for next content drop. overbloating dev team with dei hires for femoid daycare didn't help much either
LOL
>>736657403I hate when fags bring up 83 like gaming legit almost ended when nothing of the sort happened. Frankly if this was 83 these shill faggots would probably be writing about how ET and Custer's Revenge are the greatest games ever and we're all wrong.
>>736671280maratroon melty!
This doesn’t read like your average garden variety shilling anymore, you can really sense the genuine panic in these articles now.I don’t know if the entire American AAA industry’s fate hinges on the success of this one game but it sure is starting to feel like it.
>>736671280>-19Reddit is alright sometimes
Broken...
>>736657403>Marathon is a great game for uncsNo it fucking ain't, I ain't playing that seizure-inducing wokeslop, my unc brain will get fried from all the garish colors.
>>736658029Because Bungie, being a western studio, allows them to reinforce their role in the gaming ecosystem. They are able to build relationships and sources just by nature of them having cultural ties(location, language etc). Notice how vitriol Chinese and Korean studios get because they aren't willing to play ball with them? Journos only have power when they are given power by being an entity worth acknowledged. That's why Wukong pissed them off so much>IGN: Do you have any comments on the sexism allegations we made up?>Game Science: Fuck you, no we don'tNo western studio would be caught doing that kind of PR.Japan is in this weird place where the actual devs are shielded off just like Korean/Chinese devs but the companies themselves have been infiltrated by LOLcalizers and western branches so they can exert some control on JP game dev like Bandai Namco's recent censoring or Capcom very careful to not cross the safe horny line with their females
Tassi is unstoppable
I'm an unc and havent played an online game since 2013.
>Journos are just saying shit like 'unc' and 'chud' in official articles now Wtf
>>736657403>because they are a reminder of how brutal the video game industry is right now, where it might be headed, and how viable Marathon and games like it are in the future.Holy shit these guys are talking like Marathon set some industry standard, this game is a mediocre MP game that would have been laughed out the door during the golden age of MP games in 2000-2007yeah you are righ, if the industry keeps pushing out slop like this everyone will be out of a job soon, start making goof fucking games again
not in the top 100 anymore ROFL
I genuinely don't know what the appeal of marathon is supposed to be.
>>736657403>Emanuel>but also MaiBERGEw. Spics and kikes crossbreeding.
They spent waaaay too much time on the aesthetic, clips, loading screens, etc. That stuff is okay for a SP game, but I should be able to start the game and get into lobby wait in 5 seconds.>>736671756Embarassing!
>>736658029>Why did journos get so conjoined to this game anyway?Marathon being a flop breaks the illusion that game journos still hold any kind of sway in the industry. The truth is that no one gives a fuck about gaming "journalism" anymore. But the journos desperately want to prove that people still give a fuck about what they say because, well, it's their fucking jobthe reason companies give them review copies, merch, and fly them out to events is because the gaming companies themselves think that paying journos up is a wise marketing investment. Once companies realize no one gives a shit about them, they'll stop getting free shit, early access, and whatnot>tl;dr marathon flopping proves that gaming journos and reviewers are a thing of the past, and they are desperately trying to hold onto that, to no avail
>>736667983>Combined with garish art style, there's no way to know what the fuck color anything is supposed to be.you need to check your god damn eyes nigga
>>736657651yeahit didnt stop crimson desert lol
>Lol your slop flopped, lmao @ ur life what a loser
>>736671998>Tarkov was popular>lets copy that and steal their playerbaseThat was the general idea.
>>736667631makima.cx
>>736657640I just don't pay for games with mutts or faggots and trannies in them, it really is that simple.
But the shills all told me they were just fine with their niche playerbase and didn't want to cater to the filthy casuals like Arc Raiders do and only wanted the hardcore players? What happened?
These articles read like its their job on the line if it doesn't become some new big game.
>>736662485If it's worth playing there will be private or single player server developed.If there isnt, it was never worth playing to begin with.
>it'll stabilize at 60k>it'll stabilize at 50k>it'll stabilize at 40k>it'll stabilize at 30k>it'll stabilize at 20k <---------- (You) are here>it'll stabilize at 10k>it'll stabilize at 5k>it'll stabilize at 1k>500 is an okay number for an extraction shooter. I only have to wait half an hour to get a match and that's ok>so sad Marathon died, the game had potential. It's those chuds' fault for not giving it a fair chance>Fairgame$ looks super awesome! I'm so looking forward to it!
>>736671796Damn, 88k was the peak? I remember coomer game stellar game getting like 200k on Steam and the game was a year old by that point, i think this game was simply uninteresting from the get go and dead on arrival.
watching games flop is so comfy
>>736667256>the art is actually natural from the community and not forced shit he personally commissionedYou don't actually believe this, do you?
>by the end of next week. It won't even reach players numbered in 5 digits
>>736671597KEK, remember steam is actually the smaller player for tarkov base so Tarkov has more players right now than marathon.
>>736672374Trying to make a normie friendly version of a game like Tarkov is just retarded at a conceptual level, it would be like trhing to get the Warthunder playerbase by making an arcade tank game.
>muh art>muh sales>muh playersdont care. long as sony keep bleeding millions each week propping up this trash im fucking laughing.
>>736670624Its because the games industry is now mature. Developers are now senior enough to take business and leadership roles, they no longer need pure "suits" for those roles.Just look at the "brown and bloom" era of gaming. The games were brown and ugly, yes, devs always bitched about corporate meddling, yes, but they also prioritized fun and were marketed and designed to appeal to the people who buy games- because the suits were always reminding everyone that the goal is money and not anything else.Now we have retarded test monkeys in senior leadership and game design roles, while any decent technical person will all have moved on to make real money elsewhere. These dumb apes think narrative and message are more important then making money. Maybe they are but bitch this is a business and money is far more important then anything else to a business.
It got the Morgan Park Kiss of Death™
>>736671461>I don’t know if the entire American AAA industry’s fate hinges on the success of this one game but it sure is starting to feel like it.There will be a point - maybe this game, maybe some later one - at which the investors will realize that throwing billions of dollars into projects with very low odds of investment return is not a good business practice. It won't be an outright collapse of AAA, but a significant downscaling where the only projects getting made are the safe ones, like sequels to existing major franchises.
>>736658029It's a good game that got good reviews.
>>736672321How does that multi-billion dollar corpo cock taste, shill?Oh, but you're punk, right? A counter culture rebel?
>>736673323bro slopthunder is an arcade game.friendly tarkov is arc raiders and it was a smash hit with casuals, as in the people who will throw money at you for slop. fagathon is hunt showdown but troon sci fi and worse in all aspects. the builds you can do in hunt as just way better and more accessible.
>>736668546Their racket is crumbling before their very eyes. No one trusts the opinion of game journalists anymore. Because no one puts stock in their opinions, devs won't fund them going out and trying to influence gamers and they'll be out of a job. If another big vidya crash is on the horizon, game journos are going to be the first aspect to die.
>>736673323A competent dev did it though with ark raiders. All it took was behaviour based matchmaking, so those who didnt want to be farmed dont have to play that those that want to farm people.
>>736657403Xir isnt concerned about marathon player counts specifically, its about the wider implications for western industry - and its hangers on.
I'm sorry...I was dead wrong about this game.I'm having a blast!
>>736673556These dudes are in the wrong business, instead of charging for shilling games they should just blackmail devs to pay them in order to stay away from reviewing their games.
>>736673792Wow, I have never seen cheats in a video game, is this new?
>>736657403>a critical successAwww, too bad that doesn't mean shit
>>736673636Clearly not an opinion shared by the majority of the people who bought it, else they'd still be playing.
>>736657403dude holy shit why do they have such a stick up their ass over this game
>we don't want the arc casuals>we don't want "chuds" (whatever this means)it's quite stupid for a live service game reliant on player count activity to basically invite and create reasons for people to not be interested
>>736657640>make all of you paySorry, but I'm non-buynary.
>>736673926Ziegler is just a retard at managing the game, all of Bungie needs a whipping
>>736670197>periodicallynigga there's a thread about this up 24/7sometimes even multiplebungie lives rent free in /v/'s head
>>736671280When does this guy have time to actually play the game? He seems to spend all day defending the game across every social media platform.
>>736672321Reminder: this dude beat you, your industry, your entire media apparatus AND your billionarie backers.
I did nothing for this.
>>736658897Isnt that the retard that talks in slow motion while wearing a mario cap?
>>736674041discord troons and the twitter xirs don't actually play the games they defend, this is known
>>736674024It's a $4 billion tyre fire with playstation branding.
>>736662306Noone has to like or give high ratings to Crimson Desert, but anyone that says Concord or Veilguard are better games is lying.
>>736667883Strange, irl its woketards that have abysmall relatuonships with family. Especially with their fathers.
>great game for uncsfucking christ kys
>>736657403Should've made it single player.
I would have played it if it was like a remake of the old Marathon, but I have no interest in these "extraction shooters" or whatever the hell the zoomers call them.
>>736674545>do another Doom rebootno thanks
>>736671503You get money for (you)s on tweeter?
>>736674631I know I'd have bought Marathon if it was SP.
>>736674678>SP extraction slopThat sounds even worse than it already is
can somebody please explain to me what exactly an extraction shooter is? I really like Helldivers 2 and I've been told that's what that is, but then I hear that the most common example of one is Tarkov, and I fucking hate that game and feel like Helldivers 2 is nothing like it. What exactly is this genre?
>>736657403As an unc I feel offended by the suggestion that this is a great game for uncs
>>736674850You leave with the loot
>>736674918that's like, a shit ton of games though. Is Fallout 3 an extraction shooter?
Honestly I don't see a vidya crash ever happening. At most there'll be a filtering. >vidya's basically got basically no startup cost ($100 to get your game listed on Steam. Basically everything you need to make a game is free and open source or has open source alternatives)>Everyone can work remotely from home so there's no need to rent/buy an office>Easy to network with other devs to form indie teamsAt most, anyone who holds a bullshit redundant position like "diversity team building advisor" will find themselves laid off. All the actual talent can just team up with their fellow laid off coders, sound designers, artists, etc. and just form new indie studios.
>>736674850Helldivers was never really a pure extraction game, it's an online PvE squad shooter with maybe like 1 or 2 elements that coincidentally align with an extraction game.
>>736657403it's very funny reading the subreddit and seeing people dogpile on anyone who suggests any kind of change or tweak to the formula. game already had an embarrassingly low player count at launch and in the past month, that number has dropped 75%, but people there act like it's the perfect game and defend every single decision made. sorry, but little tweaks like making cryo archive 24/7 aren't gonna bring people back in droves, they're obviously going to need major changes to have any hope of getting players back. a night version of dire marsh and one new gun isn't gonna cut it next season, especially when the gear wipe pisses off the sweats who have full vaultsironically one of the only concessions they will make is that the shop options suck because they apparently want to pump money into this sinking ship but can't justify spending money on shitty recolor skins
>>736674990No cause you can just reload your save
>>736675065Does it become an extraction shooter if you install a permadeath mod?
>>736662485they'll get desperate enough to do a free weekend, just wait for that
>>736675006tech companies do enough fake daisy chain deals to prevent a formal crash. video game industry had too much enthusiasm because of artificially high numbers during the pandemic and are now going through the correction period after the inevitable cooling
>>736675171Yes
>>736674850Helldivers 2 isn't even remotely an extraction shooter. Basically the gist of an extraction shooter is>pick a loadout from shit in your inventory>jump into a match against other players as well as NPC enemies>collect loot whether it be shit to sell or gear then try to extract without getting killed>if you extract you keep whatever gear and shit you extracted with and can store it away to use in future matches>if you die you lose everything you were carrying, including all the shit you brought in with you
>>736657478TPBP.If it was a single player shooter set after Durandal, then it'd be Unc-core. It's not.
>did nothing>win streak 2435I just cant lose. Im so sorry.
>>736674850>I really like Helldivers 2 and I've been told that's what that isIt's not. Arc Raiders is Helldivers 3 pretending to be an extraction shooter, because of aggression matchmaking, the overwhelming majority of players play it as Helldivers, 3rd person PvE epic spectacle taking down big enemies, and a social hub. Other extraction shooters play more like DayZ or a battle royale.
>>736657640Y-YOU STUPID FUCKING CHud! YOU FUCKING *CHUD*!
>>736675226OK well that makes sense, thank you. Whoever told me HD2 is an extraction shooter must be actually retarded.
>>736657403>404media is getting into video games>instead of focusing on>InfoSec which was their wheelhouse#COOKED #CHOPPED #HoldTheLAnd they wonder why I don't subscribe.
>>736675358You should play EDF 5 or 6 by the way
>>736674850Helldivers isn't an extraction shooter in any meaningful way, people telling you that are retarded. Steam keeps recommending extractionslop to me because Helldivers 2 is tagged as an extraction game, it's annoying. Imagine Helldivers, except if you die once the mission ends and you permanently lose all the weapons, equipment and stratagems you brought with you. Also, there are cheaters flying around the same map as you, killing you with aimhacks. If that doesn't sound fun to you, congrats you're not into CBT
>>736657403no linux no buyget with the times, appeal to the actual modern audience, or get off pc
>>736675419I played one of those back in the day and enjoyed it quite a bit, I'll probably buy another one of them someday.
>>736673636>it got good reviews>journo clique protects its friends (this was especially clear when they agreed to Bungie's 'request' to delay their reviews for Cryo's launch)>Bungie explicitly asks everyone in the official Marathon discord to review Marathon on Steam (and you wouldn't be in the discord if you weren't already a fan/supporter)The reviews are artificially boosted and don't reflect reality, as the falling player count and low engagement continually demonstrate.
>>736674850Massochism simulators.
Lmao
>>736675054Because any suggestion that favors PvE is just sabotage from Arc Raiders carebears who want to destroy the game.
>>736658029Beyond political agendas, the most common thread is that Sony paid them to cheerlead for this game. Between their own literally historical rapid failure of Concord and witnessing Highguard quickly die out too soon after despite a relatively strong opening playerbase, they realized Marathon was also destined to be in deep shit. That's why they begged journos to not review it for a month after release and why they've been aggressively paying influencers to tell everyone about how it's le epic hardcore gamersauce.With what a huge bust Bungie's consultancy has been for Sony's desire to lean heavily into GaaS, they both NEED this game to not fizzle out embarrassingly. Sony because they finally eke out ONE win with their Bungie purchase, and Bungie because they're increasingly liable to get dissolved/absorbed (they're not a Playstation Studio, remember).
>>736657640>people write it off because why would they invest their time in an online game with player numbers that signal imminent and unceremonious execution by its financial backers, which only leads to even lower player numbersI mean, even without Player Count numbers it'd be the same. The industry at the moment is chasing whales when before you could buy a game, host a server for 25-30+ years, and own it forever (Quake 1-3).Why the FUCK would I pay $40 or Maraslop?
>>736675541I respect thatStill not buying Marathon though
>>736674850It's when you pull out right before the big cummies.
>>736657403>Marathon is a great game for uncs.Uncs are sweats?
>>736675054
>How does that multi-billion dollar corpo cock taste, shill?>Oh, but you're punk, right? A counter culture rebel?doesnt matter, sniffing shell butts here
>>736674678Same.>>736674742It wouldn't necessarily have been extraction if it was SP, but even if it was, Arc Raiders proves a PVE extraction game can work fine. Hell, even HD2's end of mission segment is arguably extraction-like.
Why did Bungie fail while Warframe succeeded
>>736675006>I don't see a vidya crash ever happeningAnon, last year, one third of all game developers on the planet got laid off.
>>736658029>Why did journos get so conjoined to this game anyway?$$$
>>736675486If you actually played the game you'd not only understand why it's critically acclaimed, but you'd also have a lot of relevant scathing critique against it and Bungie.But you didn't, so there's no point in this discussion.
Stats anon here. 3 major milestones today: The lowest recorded CCU so far at less than 8,000 players, six straight days of declining peak players numbers and more than a 70% decline in CCU since peak 33 days ago.
>>736675601how is it "sabotage", the game is already dying. if a pve mode even got them just 10k sales, that's probably 10k more sales than they're gonna get in the current statepeople mad at any mention of pve talk about it like it's gonna split the playerbase, which is very funny because 1) that's an admission that a large number of people would rather play pve and 2) they have no problem with splitting the playerbase in multiple queues when it comes to adding duo queue and making ranked/cryo happen more often.
>>736675918theres no point, i will say this aspect of the game feels like shit, you will say nuh uh and neither one of us will change our minds.
>>736675768>P2P (the F2P is a demo at best)>F2P PvE game>P2P PvP game
>>736657687It is in the best interests of the vidya industry and consumers that shitty vidya and those who create shitty vidya be ridiculed and bankrupted.
>>736675607>With what a huge bust Bungie's consultancy has been for Sony's desire to lean heavily into GaaS,It's INSANE they bought Bungle in the first place.>gets successful after a string of AA titles during Mac and PS2 (Rockstar port) era Bungle>Halo is a MASSIVE success because it consoleized FPSers better than Aliens vs Predator PSX did>Strike lightning 3 times with 11th hour asspulls to cobble together multiplayer (barely anyone cared about campaign past 2-3 co-op playthroughs)>Jason Jones gets tired of being "the Halo studio">Asks MS to let them make something else>LMAO, no. Just make more Halo, retards.>FUCK YOU DADDY, MICROSLOP! YOU'RE NOT OUR REAL DADDIES!>Rushes ODST and Reach out to get out of contract of being the Halo Studio>Microslop has a "first look" deal with them>Suggest Destiny>"WTF that shit looks retarded, just do more Halo.">Goes to ATVI (a Microslop subsidary now)>Funds MMOFPS slop>PS360 generation dies>Makes Destiny 2>Flounders and fucks about>ATVI breaks ties because losing money (finally bought by MicroSlop)>Destiny 2 continues to flounder>Sony looks at this and goes "Hmmm... yes. Let's buy Bungle, they SURELY know how to make Games as a Service *fart* sloppa."Sony is retarded. They NEVER should've bought MicroSlops sloppy seconds if they did due diligence and understood Bungles history.
>>736675960I would tell you to get a life but seeing all the journos seething over datafaggotry has warmed my heart so you keep doing your thing.
>>736675770Yeah, and? Like I said. There's virtually no start up cost to making a vidya. As long as they're good at what they can do they can just work remotely with a bunch of other dudes to make their own games.
>>736674850>deploy with weapons and gear in your inventory alone or with another player(s)>two main goals>1: collect loot of varying rarity and worth for leveling up or bolstering your weaponry>2: complete task/contract/quest objectives >if you kill other players, then you can take their gear and loot for yourself>if other players kill you, then they can take your stuff and you cant get it back>to leave the game with anything you found on the map or brought in upon deployment, you have to exfiltrate/extract>if you die or the timer runs out before you can extract, you lose anything you brought in, anything you found, and likely fail any quest objectives you didnt complete>if you do extract, then progress towards rank, factions, and objectives is saved, and any gear/loot you had on you is vaulted or cached until you decide to bring it out again>after a certain period of time ("season") passes, a player wipe occurs where you lose all gear and all progress regardless of in-game playtime, essentially putting all players back on equal footing Its extremely sweaty high risk, high reward gameplay that functions similar to gambling.
>>736675719>Yeah the game is shit now but if you give the devs your money they might potentially make it less shit laterwowie
>>736675960We really DON'T need your speadsheets, we can read SteamDB just fine. Thanks.
>>736657687their livelihood depends on the industry growing. more game, even if slop, is good for them because it means more reviews. /v/ is the opposite, the industry needs to die so it can be reborn. if all game journos lose their jobs in the process, then that's just a nice little cherry on top
>>736675607>They begged journos not to review it too quickly after releaseWhat's even funnier about that is, even after they reviewed it at that later date and glazed the fuck out of it, those reviews did approximately nothing to change player counts or reverse the downward trend. There wasn't a bump. There wasn't a plateau. The reviews simply did nothing.
>It's so sad we're losing a game as unique as this, an extraction shooter cashshop game Kill yourself.
>>736667883
>>736676123Sure, but can you tell me where the numbers will be a week from now? Or a month from now?
>>736675960Hey statsbro. I'm expecting a minor bump tonight because of Cryo opening up, but if that doesn't happen, things are in a real bad state.
>>736676168It's all marketing, and the game had terrible marketing. It had one notable plagiarism scandal, then Bungie did nothing to spin the story positively despite resolving it. They didn't promote any trailers, or promote the IRL ARGs that they always do, or anything. Their only strategy is sucking off streamerniggers which does not fucking work.
Asking to not review actually backfired on Bungie since it looks like outlets would’ve glazed them anyway. Because of that they had to make that fake accolades video too lol
It's genuinely hilarious taking a peak at reddit and seeing all the top posts just being "I'm haviong SO MUCH FUN guys" posts at the top, has any game recovered from such posts?
>>736657403>I don’t think we’ll ever have another near extinction event like the video game crash of 1983>An event that only affected the North American console market >That didn't affect Europe>And didn't affect Japan>And didn't affect Computer Games>Was a "near extinction level event"
>>736669012Spent like 6 years trying to figure out the best way to monetize it, then tried making it fun.
>>736676075This is also why the game is overrun by cheaters. Ten times as much of a reason to use wallhacks and aimbot when there is an actual tangible consequence to losing beyond your ego being hurt. And inversely it’s a juicier target for griefing.
>>736676310crimsaar desert has success despite these posts >>736676308yes
>>736676168Well, yeah: Sony is stupid and doesn't realize people can watch streamers instead of reading reviews.It's the same as their GaaS *fart* shit: Nobody there has any fucking idea how the industry works now.>>736676220>Or a month from now?0 players. Easy.At the current trend of losing 2,000-4,000 players a day and current peak of 20,000, it's got a maximum of about 3 weeks left.WOW, no spreadsheet needed. Just SteamDB and logic!By all means, but an autismo and baseball stat it, but I'm telling you your "predicition it's dead before summer" isn't anything nobody with a brain already didn't know.
>>736676168yeah it really was a crazy decision. you want every publication talking about your game at the same time at release to build buzz. instead, bungie has all of these publications releasing reviews at random intervals throughout the first month along with a bunch of articles about the game dying. if you're some normie who hadn't heard of the game til last week when their favorite publication gave it a 9/10 review, they're gonna google the name and see a bunch of articles about it dying already and then decide to not jump on that sinking shipor, conversely, they'll actually buy the game and get fucking stomped because joining at this stage of the season in a game with no skill based matchmaking is going to be a nightmare
>>736676231Last week that resulted in a 10% bump and it flattened the next day. Easter weekend was bad for player numbers. Looking at the decline between the first weekend of Cryo and the second weekend being 17% and last weekend's only being 9% I can't see peak CCU tonight being more than 28,000.But hey, I could be wrong and the CCU could climb above 30,000. I doubt it though.
>>736657403>the video game industry appears to be going through what is increasingly looking like a proper crashf u c ky e s
>>736676365Ill admit, the few times I played extract shooters (including Marathon) it was a bit of a rush trying to make it to the exfil with a stacked backpack, then experiencing that relief when you finally make it out alive. Its kind of like edging with someone who has a 50/50 chance of letting you finish inside them or giving you a ruined orgasm instead
>>736676425Modeling the trend as it is, losses of about 3.2% day on day and some new content coming out over the next month I've got an estimated 10,000 CCU. Zero would be a severe drop off and we're drifting into the phase where only the most committed people are still playing. This cohort is notoriously stubborn about quitting. But the vault wipe in June might just do it.
>>736674742I thought so too until I tried modded SPT-AKI. With AI that behave like actual players and go around the map doing objectives like actual players, you still get the same assclenching moments without worrying about some hacker headshoting you from across the map or vacuuming up all of the loot.
>>736676436yeah the best marketing window is AT release, not a month after release. publications got cucked out of clicks because who is checking reviews for a game that’s been out for a month and has thousands of hours of footage from streamers and bungie got cucked out of players who could’ve been misled into buying the game based off of these paid reviews. it’s really funny
>>736676654>Its kind of like edging with someone who has a 50/50 chance of letting you finish inside them or giving you a ruined orgasm instead
We’re losing a game made of pure SOVL and kino and you’re laughing?
>>736676830What still blows my mind is that the game was supposed to launch LAST August. Imagine the state it would have been in.
I'm so happy to see Bungie finally tanked by all their arrogance and delusion. What a shitty company they've been for the past 7 years.
>even Kotaku journos are already grieving for the loss of the gameThe Bungie layoff news is gonna hit the journosphere like 20 9/11s
>>736677108>ma'am, another concord has hit the stock market
>>736675960>/biz/ making flop spreadsheetsThe PvP that happens in the threads is better than the PvP ingame
>>736677108>Erm, why do you care if the live service game that relies on having players has players or not?Are these people retarded or baiting?
Bungie unironically doesn't deserve the potential kino of the game and are squandering it.Fire management.Fire the game designers.Keep the artists.Promote the artist from the original concept art and have them do new art passes on skins and characters.Keep the writers.Keep the composers.Fire their marketing and social media team into the sun.Crucify Ziegler.
>>736657437I know how you feel. I can't help but feel responsible for this.
>>736677547At what point does this trickle up to Herman Hulst?
>>736659169>Halo was single-handedly responsible for dumbing down the entire FPS genre thanks Bungie.BULLSHIT.Half Life 1 ruined FPS's before Halo did. And Half Life 2 made it even worse.
>>736677380Theyre doing the pretending to be retarded thing, like the people around here saying>IT'S NOT WOKE YOU POLITICALLY OBSESSED CHUD. PROVE TO ME IT'S WOKE NOW.every thread.>>736677547Only artists that aren't on horse estrogen, and didn't spend literally millions on making black people hair for 3d printed robots.
>>736657807Have you seen the devs, mentally ill freak? You dont celebrate pride month with trans kids colored pedo Spartans in Infinite, you some kind of bigot?
>>736675770nta, but crash won't be noticed by gamers, just by western devs, you can close every single western studio of any size and you'll still be getting thousands of steam releases monthly
>>736676689I agree. The unknown break points, are, people with sunk cost who will never quit and want their 40 dollars worth vs the point where matchmaking becomes a quit point. I wonder what plan they have for the wipe.
I get it, games journalists are terrible at video games. Remember that one guy playing Cuphead? Let’s ignore the fact that games journalists regularly beat entire games in a far shorter timespan than regular people who don’t have deadlines to meet. Turn a blind eye to the fact that they don’t have a single guide to help them beat a difficult boss or access an area with some abstruse entry method like drinking poison that kills you at any other time. Forget about the fact they beat them before the patches arrive to make the game easier.They also hate video games, and chose to cover this beat because they want to destroy the entire industry. It doesn’t matter that wages are low across the sector and crunch is rife, especially when reviewing hundred-hour games with bafflingly tight turnarounds. They hate video games, and can’t wait to tear them down. The myth that games journalists not only suck at video games, but also actively hate the medium, is one that I’ve never understood.
>>736659675Male children aren’t women, you demented child predator.
>>736662710>Bungie is the wokest game dev on the planet.Bungie wouldn't even be in the top10. Not because they're not woke, but because of just how high the bar is.
It's currently peaking at just about 10k more players than Highguard was pre death. Keep in mind this costed 50x more to make at minimum and the developer (is supposed to anyway) has prestige.This shit's actually closing by Fall 2026
>>736678003>he actually thinks they finish the games they review
>>736676436>>736676830What's more hilarious is that the big game saving update turned out to be a mode that none of the journalists can access themselves anyways, and that the majority of players will never extract on. Yes, I know what Travis said, and I dont' believe him.And they still got double ball fondling scores from all the big press.
>>736677878>making black people hair for 3d printed robots.Unironically, who the hell are you talking about? There's only one design you could call black and he's bald
>>736657437
>>736657516In /mg/ there was a lot of that gooner posting. Some anon was trying to ERP as a Thief that gets raped every time her team lost OR gets used by her team as a sex doll.I am fairly convinced that all of that goon-posting and all of that goon art was commissioned by Bungie themselves.
>>736678251The majority of players will never even see it; isn’t it for groups only?
>>736657437chuddah! do something!
>>736678251>none of the journalists can access themselves anywaysNo? Pretty much every review went over Cryo>and that the majority of players will never extract on. Extracting a few times with loot isn't hard, you can bash your head against it a while and make it. Now doing the vaults is another story and way slower.
>>736678003i wrote articles for a small xbox magazine. we had to play 5-10 hours of a game to review it. we had a list of buzzwords we had to use 5-10 times for SEO as well as some backlinks. we were strongly discouraged from giving poor scores. if we gave a game an unfavourable score, the editor would change it.
Famitsu, which is infamous for having an extremely strict standard for analyzing and giving scores, judged Marathon with an almost perfect score.But chuds swear to you that the positive discourse around the game is forced and that in truth people don't like it.
>>736678003Fries in the bag, Travis
>>736673984>>736674254>>736674384Chudda is unironically one of the best memes to come out of this place in at least 5 years.Pic attached was short lived, but beloved by me, too.
>>736659404>seemibgly beloved by players and critics>seeminglyYeah, exactly because of that "seemingly".I know a guy who played it for 10 hours and left a positive review and never played it again. All that "seemingly" positive is false and botted.
>>736661360I dont want it to die. I want a PvE mode. I want to enjoy it.
>>736678374Groups only. Progress minimum. Gear minimum, as in you have to risk some of your stash to even enter. And designed to be a fuck you in the ass blender. You can't just skulk around picking up scraps and sneaking off to an extract without luck. The turbosweats will prevent you from accessing any of the exits, not to loot you but just to make sure you lose the shit you came in with.It's actually cool, but incredibly harsh in that way.>>736678446Oh fuck! He's doing even more nothing!
>>736675607>Beyond political agendas, the most common thread is that Sony paid them to cheerlead for this game.Extremely unlikely any direct payments changed hands.Probably simply influence and ad-revenue with their companies.
>>736678491Journalists aren't putting in enough hours to meet the minimums for their reviews. They're getting boosted accounts, curated experiences or sherpas from the company.
>>736676913Whatever the SOVL/kino game that's being lost is, it sure as shit isn't Marathon.
>>736678540Nigga if people liked the game, the game wouldn't be losing 10% of it's playerbase every week.>32/40 is an almost perfect scoreOh ok, this is a baitpost.
>>736678540>80%>B->almost perfect
>>736678260Exactly. Bungie spent literally millions trying to fix "hair racisism", and their do or die game doesn't even really use it.
>>736678540it deserves a bit of score inflation because it's $40but in the west we hate gay ass bungie so western reviews deserve deflation
>>736657640>It also shifts the conversation entirely away from what the game is, what people like about it, and why, and to its business model, infecting players with the quarterly earnings report view of the world. Games and players become expressions and subjects of business modelsThey literally asked for this lmao lol
>>736678003The industry bent over backwards for journos crying about muh sexualizationz and took all my favorite games away from me. And then when one single game that ever so slightly tried to bring that back (Stellar Blade) was coming out every journo did everything in their (very weak nowadays) power to try and deplatform the game or even get Sony to try and cancel it.I'm absolutely here for the foot being on the other side and watching journoshits games all get taken away just like mine did.
>>736677108A Kotaku journalist being open and forthright- not lying, not ragebaiting, not trying to manipulate me with his words. It feels weird to see, actually makes me recoil a little just on reflex.
>>736677916Yes, and that's a very good point to make. To normalfags, especially the 'ball and gun' gamers that are most of the audience in NA, any industry problems never trickle down because their games aren't interrupted, they don't read gaming news sites, and they aren't coming here/to Reddit/wahtever. 'The revolution will not be televised' and all that.
>>736657403>all these [NEWS] threadswho the fuck makes these
>>736678082idk anon, beyond parody level wokeness with companies like who made Dustborn, I'm hard pressed to think of more militantly woke studios than Bungie.
>>736678698>Gear minimum, as in you have to risk some of your stash to even enter.To be fair from my experience in single player analogues this sounds like the kind of mode/area that’s a reason to use all the shit you’ve been hoarding. And this is to keep people from just spamming entries with no kit to try and get a lucky pickoff on someone who’s kitted out.
>>736678540>judged Marathon with an almost perfect score.???
>>736679071Tassi does
>>736677916When is the last a time a North American AAA studio made a really well received game anyways?
>>736671998This is the big problem and I even like playing the game. Marathon is a good game made for absolutely nobody because the devs have their heads up their own ass
>>736678082Name 3 companies you think are more woke than Bungie.
>>736662247That ad spend is about right, and you notice the media outlets that are ad spend dependent are reacting as such. They ALSO spent shit buying out all the streamers, twice, and set up a tournament. They were flying in people from all over, especially Japan to see their shit, hoping for a repeat of Apex.
>>736679086ActiBlizz?
>>736679168>they scored the garbage Y3 Kiwami higher than MarathonHumiliation ritual
>>736662446>so they just paid all that money for nothing?Worse than nothing. All the streamers played it for their sponsored streams, and the game was EMBARGOED from the pro reviewers at the time. And all the streamers minus some no name destiny ones dropped it immediately. So, everyone saw how ass it was first hand.
>>736679215Nta but the dead by daylight devs are far more woke.
>>736679215Nta but Ubisoft has to be at least on par with them.
>>736662485They'll go F2P, or P+ free first.
>>736669297Zoomers dont pay for shit theyre broke.
>>736679215SonyMicrosoftBlizzard
>>736676034They were desperate for some kind of retaliation against Microsoft's buyouts in the early 2020s. Sony's most underspoken major mistake is them still considering Xbox to be serious competition.
>>736679230Blizz is probably the same level of woke as Bungie, since they're also in the same west coast AAA woke clique.>>736679325Examples of their hyper wokeness?>>736679367Ubisoft is definitely in the top 5, but not more than Bungie.
>>736676075>>736676365These.
>>736679425>Examples of their hyper wokeness?Went out of their way to hire a tranny va as a token only for said tranny to stab them in the back for 5 minutes of fame.
>>736679534explain
>>736657403>player count anxietyThis guy needs to kill himself as soon as possible.
>>736662749Yes and no. It has massive auto aim and bullet magnetisim, so it's very low twitch skill. It's higher on setting up positions. The hardcore side is how unforgiving gameplay is. Super short TTK. No fast respawns. Missions and contracts that are incredibly hard and don't flow into normal gameplay naturally but are required for meta progress. Catering to streamers and people who play longer, who then go around abusing the noobs, causing the noobs to lose progressIt's completely expected that the casuals have bailed.
>>736672485the only gacha with a private server is genshin
>>736674850extraction shooter means you have a limited time to complete whatever objective is given to you, you need to leave via specific method/area for progress to count, and you have gunplay (shoot things). Everything else - first/third person view, PvP or PvE, looter or not, garbage collection - are optional and modular.
>>736679230>>736679325I think you're out of the loop or you don't know Bungie very well.There are trans characters in Destiny. In fact one of the main characters from their expansion was a trans character who had it's chest out with a trans voice actor.Black at Bungie.Trans at Bungie.Latinx at Bungie.Turned Queen Mara from the hottest character in the game into an ugly hag. Every female character is a lesbian or trans.Constant male emasculation.Black lives matter screen that you had to accept before playing the game.Some of the worst millenial writing slop the west has ever produced.>>736679395Game companies. >Sony>Microsoft>BlizzardBlizzard is the only game company there and it doesn't even come close to how woke Bungie are. I can't be the only Destiny 1 player who watched the company completely collapse with wokeness over the years.
>>736679425Blizzard is definitely more woke they put the shit all over their games. Bungie supports woke in name but tries to avoid actually committing anything to it without plausible deniability because they know about all the players they have they don't like it
>>736679534A token tranny VA isn't beating Bungie having a whole 'Trans at Bungie' team and tranny pride flag skins and all that shit.
>>736679636>tries to avoid committing to itYou know Bungie had an unskippable BLM screen in Destiny 2 in 2020, right?
>>736663593Well, they spend a AAAA budget on this sack of shit .>>736664587You have it backwards. If anything GOY made more profits than spiderman 2 because of the insane budget and marvel's huge cut. It's why they canceled the DLC for SM2. GOY's key was it kept the budget under control. Marathon spent more on marketing than GOY's entire development and marketing costs combined.
>>736657403>People are making horny fan art of Marathon characters.I havent seen one and I'm a degenerate. This is fucking COPE.
>>736679215If only the core values at Bungie was making great scifi videogames instead. What the fuck do trannies have to do with anything? Put these diseased child molesters in asylums already, not hire them to make fucking Halo of all things.
>>736678540>famitsuWho? I dont live in Japan.>almost perfect score>32/40LOL. Also, if the score is almost perfect, where are all the players?
wow so people don’t actually know how woke bungie is lol, shall we bring out the trans@bungie memes again?
>>736679789Go to marathon general thread.
Oh I almost forgot about this one. The gay old man on screen french kiss.Blizzard doesn't have shit on Bungie when it comes to wokeness.
Vibe shift is crazy right now...
>>736668546Because Sony is the biggest, most consistent ad spender in the entire industry. Xbox is dying. N only half asses shit. >>7366693432700 fuckers on Marathon.And they gave a million dollars to yale for black hair.
>>736679789There's a handful on Rule34Its not very good though. Its a very sterile game with minimum sexo like assassins creed somehow
why do you guys think journos love troongie so much? because they paid? they paid yeah but it was all in blowjobs from their troons and hamplanets kek
>>736679892Bungie is at least *this* woke. I should add the>You know Bungie had an unskippable BLM screen in Destiny 2 in 2020, right?since I didn't know.
>>736679789I think Randy's version of 'wuh woh, someone made Borderlands R34!!' is more embarrassing, but this is a very close second.
>>736671597Tassi is a rat and a scumbag, but he's still the cream of the crop of the pro journalists.And this shit is so stark, he deserves to get reamed if the doesn't let the investors know what's up. Just financial figures are triggering.
>>736657687they care about their easy as fuck jobs, dude. They aren't journalists. They get paid on commision, spend 20 mins "writing" a paragraph of praise for a game, get paid, and then tell their friends they are gainfully employed. It's all bullshit.I've listened to various game journalism for more than 20 years. They don't care about *games* they care about *game culture*. They want to be able to talk to girls about their job and tell their parents they are successful.But all they do is keep an online machine going for rent money. They don't even write articles anymore. Just blurbs. It's the easiest job in the west. San Franscisco is literally chock full of them. From Gerstmann to Dan Ryckart to all of the IGN faggots like Peer. They are ALL grifters.
btw they didn’t even do latinx@bungie, they did latino/e/a/x@bungie. yes, they’re that woke
>>736679945>>736679621You know what, I take it back. I tuned out from Bungie a long time ago and didn't realise how bad the rot had gotten. My bad.Here's something more pleasant to look at.
>>736679621that one was funny because I just remember all the spics on twitter doing shitpost replies to this putting a/e/o/x on the end of every spanish word they would put in the post.
>>736674012a reminder that they Metoode the original producer out, which is why ziegler was allowed in at all. Not that I think he was necessarily the failure mode here.
>there's industry crash because players don't want to play 58731285895th game in the same genre over and over again
>>736674850Helldivers 2 has “extraction shooter” elements but there isn’t anything to collect in the game besides “Samples” which you do need to fully upgrade your stuff, but once you do extracting is pointless, save for one or two mission types where you must extract with a Hard Drive or something and that’s what the mission is but Helldivers is nothing like extracting and collecting and bullshit garbage like Marathon or Arc raiders, you just can optionally extract if you want extra XP or need samples. But I wouldn’t call Helldivers an extraction shooter at all. It’s more like a procedurally generated left4dead but with a big open map, or something, except l4d you do need to extract to win so whatever Idk Helldivers is a really unique game.
>>736678260He's talking about this
>>736680176>hairit’s fur
>>736675358Eh, HD2 has "extraction", as in you try to escape the map. It's an understandable kind of stupid. >>736675419EDF! EDF!
>>736680176>sony bought this for $3.7bHustle of the century from whoever made that deal at Bungie.
Or this fucking disaster.
>>736680003Would journos hang the devs if the game actually looked like this (despite glowing up this art in this article) or would it be okay because the devs aren't Asian?
>>736657403even they can't tow this line any fartherthe regular numbers keep dropping and even the weekend bumps are shrinking
>>736657403>nd how viable Marathon and games like it are in the future.What, shit trend-chasing slop games? Yeah, people don't want them.
>hey lets make a game that literally requires a lot of players to be successfull>in an already oversaturated genre>in an oversaturated industry>and a receding number of consumers>and an overinflated budget >wtf why is it failing gamers why did you do this to us
>>736657437how could you
>>736680284yes they would unless Bungie made them all gays and trannies
Reminder the big epic raid event that Bungie told journos to wait for before reviewing the game went live and the average player count went DOWN afterwards. They already blew their content load and have very little planned for the next while.
>>736680253Imagine literal trannnies enter a room and you don’t immediately gag and send them away and instead hire them to make a new Halo game.??????????????????????????????
>>736662485It's not good, if you have that other extraction shooter just stay thereThe art doesn't reflect the gameplay
>>736680083You left at the right time. You missed out on some fucking crazy shit though. Like how the lead dev came out and said that over delivery was cancerous and that the forsaken expansion was a mistake they will never make again. Incredible stuff.
>>736680284The devs would hang themselves, knowing themGlitch/Vandal has hank-hill tier ass in game and it's not an accident
The Marathon Bounceback is crazy. Bungie is gonna be so #LockedIn when the game wins Best Multiplayer Game at The Game Awards in December.
>>736657403I'm too busy playing Brigador, honestly. I don't have time for the live service grind anymore. It's exhausting and unfun to keep up with, so I'd rather just play a game I can turn off when I need to focus on the real world without feeling like I'm missing out on another FOMO thing. I paid for Project Zomboid ONCE and I got a full game I could dump as much time or as little as I wanted, whenever I wanted with an experience I could customize to my preferences. Then they updated to the latest build, I can still access the old build and I've got basically a whole new game to experience on my own terms. None of my old single player games are going anywhere either. Even an MMO like WoW I can just go find a private server to play on.
>>736679621>doesn't come closeDoes bungie have a fucking diversity score chart that denotes that says cayde 6 is less of a robot than the drifter is Asian? Blizzard beats them instantly.I will only concede the possibility of you being correct if you define in clear and objective terms what a game dev being woke even means, because I'm pretty confident every person placing the accusation has a completely different working definition of what it means for a _company_ to be wokeHell, is it even permanent?If a company releases a game starring a tranny, how long do they stay woke for? It definitely can't be "forever", but how much of the ship has to be replaced before you decide the label is or isn't warranted? Is Nintendo woke because of birdo being a tranny in the 90s? Have they stopped being woke? Was capcom woke because of poison, but only in the US? Did they stop being woke and then become woke again? Is 4chan woke? We literally have a fucking LGBT board. Is it the management, the user base, the CEO? what the fuck does it mean for a business entity to be "woke", anon?
I don't see it stabilizing. Bungie needs to make drastic changes for season 2 and try to get people back after the wipe.
>>736680480>raid event>isnt even half as complex as bungies most basic d2 raid
>>736680659How does someone write any of this and still sleep at night?
>>736675768Booty
>>736675918Suck my tick milk, you fraud. I've played and understood enough of this shit that I know all the interaction changes the new knife nerf does vs every shield level vs every upgrade level, and how the interactions change vs the WSTR, on every shell. And for more upcoming hilarity, the devs are favoring the whiniest sweatiest r/ players, and fucking over the noobs and freekitters more.The critics don't play shit like this deeply enough to understand a goddam thing about it, either good or bad, and I'm betting my excess gold shields in my inventory that you have nothing interesting or intelligent to say about any of this shit anyways, which is why you're going to fan fiction. The game is fatally flawed in design. Bungie doesn't understand what's wrong and will not fix it. It is getting the Gift of Silence, and it will be well deserved.
>>736658968CD posted sales numbers and also explained that most of their sales were on PC. So it's a combination of journos and snoys seething
>>736675960This man is worth a thousand journalists. LOOK UPON THE TREND LINE AND QUAKE IN FEAR, BITCHES. ...I should make the arachne logo with that gains and losses curve.
>>736675960I saw someone else's graph predicting next week for the peak to drop to 20k even
>>736676123He's more entertaining than you are.
>>736680853There's nothing they can do kek, it's doomed. Nobody, and I mean nobody likes nu-bungie, even the BDF abandoned them after they shat all over destiny for like 5 years straight so now they have to pay shills and journalists to be their new army.
>>736657403Stop following fucking trends and make something you actually wanna make and that passion will bring in players. Halo wasn't follow trends when it came out. Instead it made the trend everyone failed to copy. They're just being like their competitors and copying the guy making the money to make their own [insert franchise] killer.
>>736681179It's rare but other games have managed to pull out of tailspins like this, the most famous being Fortnite smashing together a BR mode. I have no confidence in Bungie accomplishing it though
>>736680176Correct. And yes, literally millions were spent on that. Bungie funded academic journal entries, and academic conference appearances for this. You can actually look it up in google scholar.I actually think the research is fucking cool and interesting, but then look at how much it got them in Marathon.
>>736680253Most definitely. Can't hate the player for that one. He earned his classic car collection. It also makes me apreciate Kotick more. Dude was a lizard man, but he focused on what people were willing to pay for like a gator with a costco chicken in front of him.
>>736680284They would have to be more transexual. See BG3.
>>736680816Bungie has more woke characters, more woke in the company, more wokeness in their ideals.
>>736680659>people are just scared of marathon chud!No it just looks fucking gay. I’d rather play Arc Raiders and that looks gayasf too
>>736680480This is why we need the candelstick chart jockey. Just a glance at steamDB doesn't give you the enormity of that failure. I think it's because they said "wait for cryo archive", and people were expecting hype shit, and it turned out to be crappy, sweaty and not what people wanted.
>>736657403Fuck Bungie. Destiny 2 was garbage. They need to be culled out of the industry. Take Halo with them. Dogshit babies first fps.
>>736680659Holy fuck. What an article.
>>736681332Fortnite did that in 2017, the market is completely different, I'm not even sure the phrase "live service" existed yet. Once a game is fucked now it is fucked, people have other live services they'll just go back to and Sony has shown multiple times there is no reason to invest in theirs because they keep closing and cancelling them.
>>736680816Blizzard has gotten reeled back by mass firings and now being owned by MS. They can't do the lawsuit risking shit they used to.>Is 4chan woke? We literally have a fucking LGBT board. Is it the management, the user base, the CEO? what the fuck does it mean for a business entity to be "woke", anon?Deep philisophical questions... that need to get the FUCK out of /v/. I suggest pol. Not even trollin g.
>>736657403>We don’t know how much Marathon cost to developMarathon/Bungie costed Sony at least 3.6 billion dollars.>or what Sony Interactive Entertainment, which owns Bungie and is publishing the game, wants from itAt least 3.6 billion dollars.
>>736680863I think whatever form he's in no longer needs sleep.
>>736681760Blizzard still does whatever they can where they have a captive audience, i.e. the humiliation ritual that is WoW.
>>736680814>BrigadorBased taste, anon. I love my Treehouse w/chemical launcher and autocannon.
News bomb from Tassi, seemed new thread worthy>>736682058
>>736679945Ok but that’s cute tho
>>736682109>more numberslopYou chuds never learn, do you?
>>736682109Shill xisters, ready your dilators! We have to rally and fight back against this chud misinformation!
>>736679807>If only the core values at Bungie was making great scifi videogames insteadThey used to be, not anymore
If the game is doing so well, why do websites keep making articles about how great it is and definitely not dying every single week? Eve games like eldenring or skyrim dropped from the news after like 2.
>>736680853>get people back after the wipeHahahahahaha
>>736682279>>736682362Tassi is a chud now?
>>736659169Dumbed down how? WTF you on about like Doom, Wolf and Unreal T were some deeply complex shooters. They by nature are simple to play.
>>736682495Journotrash are desperate to prove they can still jew people into doing what they want because if they can't nobody will pay them. They can't, so they are furious at us for not getting jewed.
>>736682467If they wanted to create worlds that inspire friendship they should have made Arc Raiders instead of a hardcore PvP extraction game
>>736682642The moment he started saying 'Actually, I think marathon is in trouble', he became a chud for going against the journalist orthodoxy around what a BLAST the game is.
>>736682680Halo dumbed things down with autoaim, only two weapons ect.>>736682794>HE'S USING THE FACIST POWER OF MATH AND NUMBERS.
When you boot up the game for the first time, it asks you to join their Discord.What the fuck?! In a game where pre-match comms and strats is that important, is it really asking too much for the devs to put those tools in-game?? Instead of shunting people off to groomer minefield Discord? This is worse than devs hosting their official forums on Reddit.
>>736682921>math and numbersObjective reality has been 'hate facts' for years now if it's information someone doesn't like or finds inconvenient.
>>736683112I don’t think they’re expecting kids to play this game anon
>>736680607>>736680083https://youtu.be/FcNWMKxYgEo
>>736683713This is gonna be a hard watch I can tell..
>>736657403>AAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKlole
