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Beastmaster is a class in FF 14. What will the devs do to make it a fun experience?
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>>737251891
>FF14
>fun
lol
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>>737251891
MMOs aren't made to be fun.
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oh boy i can't wait for the game to tell me what buttons to press at what time
i can't wait to dance around a raid arena like a fucking gay ballerina
i can't wait to be sexually assaulted by trannies when visiting town
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>>737251891
Is it another glorified minigame "job" like blue mage?
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>>737251891
The fact that the weapon is an axe with a shield tells you everything to know: it's going to be shit.
They should just stick it to puttin ads in liveletters like they did for their new glam to sell.
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>>737251891
i was wrong about it being squadrons 3.0, but i could see this as a new attempt at pet classes, which would open a lot of new playstyles
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>>737251891
>What will the devs do to make it a fun experience?
More glams, more RP, more e-dating.
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>>737252231
>class
yeah a tourist like you wouldn't know drk is a pet "class" too
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>>>/vg/
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>>737252062
Sad this happened to you.
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>>737252439
i'm not. did you see how he was dressed? he deserved it
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>>737252231
Too bad it's a Limited Job, which means it won't be allowed to do anything but landscaping and a tiny handful of specially made content.
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You will enjoy the Limited Beastmaster.
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>>737252613
i don't need more classes to do roulettes on. the new mode is the attraction anon.

i wonder if leveling a class is too much for that dude who is obsessed with quantum feedback
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>>737252613
An update, once every 2 or 3 expansion. Maybe. If they have money. Definitely not then.
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>>737252706
>he doesn't have all jobs maxed after 2 expansions of nothingburger
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>>737252790
leveling is not content
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>>737252137
Yes. It's also too much work for these devs to work on BST and BLU so BLU got abandoned.
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>>737253020
there is nothing to do in this game beyond roulettes and savage
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Is it hail as in the meteorological phenomenon or hail as in hail Hitler?
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>>737253084
there's plenty to do*

*only if i approve it though
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>>737253020
go back to your deranged bot thread you made, zoomertranny >>737247708
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>>737253148
>Pyrehail

hail has two definitions, acknowledging someone with a greeting and balls of ice that fall from the sky. problem is pyre only has one meaning, which is a ceremonial fire.

thats why it doesn't work as a expansion
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>>737251891
Considering how shit summoner is, I can't see it being a normal pet class like in most MMOs
That said if I can get the job as a fresh character I'll resub and try it but my last trial just showed me how bad it is as an actual mmo and my time in imsa lo-whatever was mostly just running from npc to npc for story quests instead of normal mmo shit
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>>737253545
gotta buy dawntrail, sorry
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>>737253545
it's a limited job meant for you to play when you have nothing else to do. it's side content not an actual job you can play dungeons and raids with.
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>>737253545
Even if you start the job on a fresh character you'd be shit out of luck by level 15 since it wouldn't be able to do the Sastasha dungeon on duty finder.
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>>737253665
I don't mind buying shit, anon
I just don't want shit behind a timegate/leveling gate

>>737253731
So it's basically like blue mage?
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>>737253797
yes it is exactly like blue mage
and you will almost certainly have to have a normal job at level 100 and completed dawntrail msq to unlock it
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>>737253797
>5
>>737253856
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Playing Crimson Desert right now and as a former FF14 player I have to say, looking back at how this game is still and so far behind in everything how it's not even got voiced NPCs.
It'll never change but I guarantee somehow the developers will pass blame to you players for the reason the game declines and not for themselves.
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>>737254075
we've already accepted that the game is years behind and it won't ever be fixed. yoshi p will stubbornly stick to the same formula that he's been obsessed with since stormblood with no deviation until end of service
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>>737254075
Anon, POTD was already obsolete by the time it came out. And they are rehashing the same shit with barely changes to the "roguelite" aspect, a decade later.
They can't even fucking change their formula LMAO.
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>>737254175
>>737254253
I feel sorry for you guys who had hope in your hearts for a 'Second rebirth' in 8.0. I know some of you will know to dampen expectations but if you love a game you want the best for it and I just don't see FF14 getting the best it can be treatment any time soon.
I could be proven wrong come the future fanfests but something within me, call it past experience doubts it.
Didn't they fuck up the implementation of the Exploration Zone in Dawntrail? I've not played it but heard it didn't go down well? Wasn't that the big piece of content people were most looking forward to in DT?
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>>737252037
Good thing this is a single player always online JRPG.
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>>737251891
nothing will top BST in FFXI
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>>737254525
>I've not played it but
NTA, but dismissed.
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>>737251891
3 button rotation while you play the floor is lava, I reckon
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>>737254667
I played FF11 recently for the fist time and while fun, the BST gameplay is not exactly complex. You just basically get an NPC companion you can use to create skillchains with, which is exactly what they demonstrated for FF14 beastmaster as well.

Of course it wasn't a limited job in FF11....
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>>737254525
>doesn't play
>has an opinion

even shitposters lurk anon
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>The number of active characters has significantly decreased from the previous count to 770,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoKluzn07eQ
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>>737254525
Most of what they did in DT ended up as a big fail. Everything died quicker than usual.
>Chaotic Alliance Raid
Ruined from the start, since it was made by Mr bodycheck Ozma. They even made it so that first clears give more rewards to other players, and they released it exactly for Christmas. It's a FOMO within a FOMO. It was impossible to prog it 2 weeks after.
>Exploration Zone
They didn't do any for EW (the expansion before). You'd think they know what people expected? No, you're just in a big bus, teleporting after each encounter to the base.
It has a in instance dungeon (Forked Tower). YoshiP lied to everyone by saying how this could be clear by non savage players, meanwhile it's made by Mr Ozma: each boss get their designated 15 pages raidplan (bodychecks, of course). An individual mistake from someone you can't even see on the screen is a wipe. You get kicked after 3 deaths, or if there is a full wipe it's over. Meanwhile, YoshiP just said they didn't have enough time or budget to make a non ozma version.
>Quantum
Required to clear the new boring deep dungeon. Supposed to be the new "big thing" (lmao) along with the job "rework" in 8.0.
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PYREWOLVES SAIL
PYREWOLVES TRAIL
PYREWOLVES HOWL AS THEY TELL THEIR TALE
WOLVES ON THE HUNT IN THE PYREHAIL
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>>737255010
>>737255425
Yes I've not played since 7.1 because I had enough of the game but still kept my eye on the game in the hopes it improved. Why is that such a difficult concept for you to understand?

>>737255763
About the exploration zone being made by Mr Ozma, I hear the raiders love him but outside of that wasn't he the guy who fucked up the original implementation of the Variant Criterions? Making them far too difficult and too much like a mini-savage raid than what people thought they were going to be.
I wonder what Extremes or even normal mode fights he's design, I'm not convinced he can design normal/ casual content that is fun and engaging.
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i knew they would take 5+ years to put in BST
just like with BLU they fucked up and failed.
they should have been proper classes and just balacned it
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>>737257137
its easy to understand. see >>737255010
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>>737257142
You can't just "balance" a job that can throw out a partywide shield with a regen. That would break everything.
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>>737251891
>What will the devs do to make it a fun experience?
Literally cannot, because it's not a real job, just like blue mage.
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>>737257316
so dont give it one, retard
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>>737255425
>>737257315
Since you aren't japanese, your opinions are worthless and trash to SE, even if you've been subbed since the start.
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>>737252062
>Midlander Paladin problems
How do I know you just wear job armor?
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>>737254592
its a VN, theres no jrpg gameplay to speak of
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>>737251891
>level cap: 50
lol, lmao even.
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>>737257469
>squadrons
>trusts
>BLU basic instinct
>now BST
COPPERBELL (HARD) BROS WE EATIN GOOD YALL
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>>737257315
Why are you so weird? Genuinely? Do you not realise the way you talk to people puts them off the game than encourages them? Is that your purpose? Then it's working.
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>>737257316
>a job that can throw out a partywide shield with a regen
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>>737257469
Post your coil clear loser
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>>737257405
yes

do you believe your shitposting is disguised with presumptive questions? lol
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>>737257390
Look, BLU spells have to function EXACTLY like they did in FFV or it's not a real BLU. That's why it has to be limited, so Mighty Guard can be a tank stance instead of a partywide defense buff.
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>>737257570
i'm not championing the game. i'm pointing out how much of a retard you are. the two are not related in the slightest
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>>737257579
Oh and can WAR solo dungeons? Didn't think so...
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>>737257787
They could if their Warrior arrogance allowed them to pull one pack at a time.
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pure kino

they don't make em like they used to
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>>737257436
commenting on another players appearance is not the win you think it is, 14tranny.
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>>737251891
I think BST is a good idea in a game that has no problems because it's just icing on a cake.

When parts of your game actively have complaints about them it's pretty tone deaf to release BST late into an expansion like this because there's a lot of pressure on BST to be something it's not, so naturally people are going to hate it by virtue of it being where it is in the games patches.

I'd say please wait til 8.0 because people are just gonna shit all over this job, they're already shitting on it even though it isn't even out because they're rightfully upset about the lack of content.
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>>737258176
If it's not fun, people waited 3 years for trash.
If it is fun, you know it's content you'll only be able to play for one week every five years when it gets updated.
Like many other pieces of content, this isolated minigame style needs to die. They throw something out, forget about it, it never gets touched again. The game is bloated with isolated systems that only get touched by achievement hunters.
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At the same pace BLU gets updated, BST will have access to Dawntrail in 2038. Think about that.
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>>737258351
This is why all mmo's should be sandboxes with no power upgrades after you get to the initial level cap. Everything should be sidegrades, all content should be kept up to date.
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>>737258351
There are people that like that but when you don't release enough content people are looking at the game like
>Okay, where the FUCK are these resources going if you're going?
Instead of
>they get what they want and I get what I want so idc
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>>737252006
There is fun to be found in the game, but it is gated behind the fishing content
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>>737258501
Part of the reason it feels like there's no content is because all the content that exists is completely isolated. If these systems actually fed into each other and were relevant to keeping your character combat ready then you'd always have things to do.
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this, is a lala
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dead game
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Here's how it'll go
>Press button to use skill to build your "Beast Gauge (Name pending)
>Press button to unleash big damage skill
>Repeat
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>>737251891
>Beast
>Fun
Nothing, it'll be as much of a pain as Blue Mage is.
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>>737251891
I know it won't happen, but I wish BST was dropping on 7.5. Hopefully it's at least coming out in 7.51, which should be in June.
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anyone got source on this image?
i saw it in the last thread but it got archived before i could ask
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>>737253080
>Stop updating BLU to update this
Why was Dawntrail so fucking horrible? I can't think of a single good thing from this expansion.
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>finally the twins boring ass garlenigger arc will end in i dunno what because im going to cutscene skip that boring trash.
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BST was made with the gauntlet first and companions second, which shows you just how fucked up XIV devs are at working at job fantasy. You know, the thing that's supposed to change and improve in 8.0? 8.0 is gonna be DT 2.0 easily.
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>>737258792
That's just the nature of the game that SE made. I'd imagine making the systems tie together is harder when their game is also spaghetti coded into isolated modules, so it isn't just a conceptual thing but a technical thing.
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>>737253403
hail can also mean anything that falls like a hailstorm (hail of gunfire etc)
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>>737257693
>I involved myself in your conversation and I'm just pointing out that I dislike that you didn't play the content you were curious about
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>>737259206
>hard nips
I’ve never wanted to sex a character more. It’s just the idea of turning an aloof, reserved personality into a desperate, writhing mess

I know one of you writes fan fiction. Bring it
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>>737259592
its all gay stories and trannie angst diaries. fanfiction died when tumblr exploded and sent all those mentally ill people to the other internet spaces.
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>>737259206
>>737259592
ziguck01
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>>737259559
you were the one that talked to me first anon. lol
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>>737260135
>Dementia patient forgets what he replied to in the first place.
Are you ok? Do you need me to send some numbers to you for medical assistance?
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>>737260340
>says something terrible and retarded
>gets called out
>everyone in the thread is one guy now
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>>737259592
>I know one of you writes fan fiction

The room in the Crystarium was dim, lit only by soft aetheric glow. Y’shtola pressed against the Warrior of Light, her dark skin warm, white hair spilling over her shoulders.“I’ve waited long enough,” she whispered, golden and blue eyes half-lidded with desire. “Take me. Now.”Clothes fell away. His hands roamed her full breasts, thumbs circling her hardened nipples as she arched into him with a low purr.
She reached down, stroking his hardening cock until he groaned. Y’shtola pulled him onto the bed, spreading her legs. “Inside me… gently at first.”He pushed in slowly, her tight, slick heat enveloping him. She gasped, claws lightly raking his back as he filled her completely for the first time.
Their hips moved together, slow, then faster her breasts bouncing with each thrust, soft moans turning into sharp cries of pleasure.“Harder,” she demanded, tail wrapping around his waist. “I want all of you.”
He drove deeper, the wet sound of their bodies meeting filling the room. Y’shtola’s walls clenched around him as she came first, crying out his name, body shaking. Moments later he followed, spilling deep inside her with a guttural groan.They collapsed together, panting, his seed leaking from her as she nuzzled his neck.
“Again,” she murmured,
already kissing him hungrily.
“I’m not done loving you tonight.”
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Haven't played since SB2. How are healers now?
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>>737260647
still spamming dps letting people die than dying themselves.
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>>737260642
yshtola doesnt have dark skin you retard nor golden or blue eyes.
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>>737260732
I see, nothing has changed.
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>>737260778
>Crystarium was dim, lit only by soft aetheric glow.
What colour would yshtola be under this? You didn't read.
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>>737260778
she had blue eyes in ARR
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>>737252690
What are those wings from anyway? Or is it not a mount?
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>>737255694

If the next expansion shows enough good stuff at the next key note this week the numbers might perk up when that expansion launches three years from now.
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>>737260056
thanks
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>>737252037
It’s not an mmo (which is why I hate it)
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>>737261185
Will probably be the special mount you get for having all the other EX wins for this expansion.
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KATE FIRED CONFIRMED. HIROI NEXT
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>>737263490
sadly, there's no proof of Kate being fired
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>>737263887
pixels confirmed firing. cope.
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>>737263970
pixels?
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>>737251891
Is BST coming out on the 28th or not?
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>>737251891
Monster.. Huntertato??
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>>737265301
I think its coming in June along with the Ultimate, but I don't have a source.
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>>737252062
>i can't wait to be sexually assaulted by trannies when visiting town
as a male roegadyn, this never happened to me

:(
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>>737265441
Im sick of this split patch bullshit
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>>737255694
Endwalker really fucked up all the build up that shadowbringer made. You could tell how dawntrail was going to bleed out even before it was announced. Fucking their writers need to be hung.
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>>737265789
ew was a gift. eternally seething garlenigger larpers on suicide watch.
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>>737263887
She's not at the keynote like in previous fanfests which means the DEI demon is 100% fired
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if Kate is still hired, probably she isn't gonna show up in another public event ever, the game needs right now just positive vibes
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>>737251891
Haven't they already explained what the job does and how it functions?
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>>737263490
Hiroi won't get fired, he'll just get stuck in a closet writing item flavor text and leveling side-quest dialogue until he quits. Its the Japanese way.
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>>737266026
not being in the keynote doesn't mean she's fired, sadly
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>>737266114
We know how capturing works and that their combat gimmick is a bit like FF11 skillchains. But they didn't go over any of the finer points. I don't think they even said what gear type it wears.
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>>737266026
She was at the previous NA fanfest, she wasn't at the London fanfest she was at the Tokyo fanfest.
If there is zero mention of her with her missing in action, because when she wasn't at the London fanfest last time Yoshida and Koji both made mention that Kate was in Japan 'hard at work translating the next expansion'.
I won't believe she's not working on FF14 anymore until I see a credits roll for the next expansion (that I won't be buying) and her name is missing.
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>>737266451
Yes, the fucking live letter was almost 4 hours long and they didn't even say that or show the new Occult Crescent.
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>>737266451
True, they didn't say what time. I wanna imagine scouting, but that's just me reading a vibe.
They did say we'd get a BST specific live letter or stream later on that would have Ozma in it.
Personally, I'd like them to not go into everything in intricate detail. Would be nice to discover some things by myself.
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>>737266668
>scouting
I think maiming is most likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were scouting or striking.
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>5 days until next expansion trailer and new class reveal

Please be a healer and a tank
PLEASE
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>>737267152
Never ever. There will always be at least 1 new dps job because that's what the majority of people play. You're getting a tank and ranged dps.
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Holy shit im halfway through stormblood
Are all dungeons the fucking same
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>>737266668
>>737266572
they are saving something for the fanfest panel
They always talk about .5 stuff on them
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>>737267256
Yes.
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>>737267256
Yep. Enjoy Shisui now because the tamatebako mechanic is getting raped away in two weeks.
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>>737267360
I don't think it will change all that much. They'll probably just have them all open on their own before the charm goes off instead of when a player touches one.
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>>737266912
It could be anything, really. And I don't really care in the end. Especially since glam restrictions are gone.
>>737267152
Probably tank and phys ranged if "the cycle" is still a thing.
StB-DT: melee dps & magic dps (SAM & VPR/RDM & PCT)
ShB-8.0? tank & phys ranged (GNB &? / DNC & ?)
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>>737267152
>>737267241
we don't really need more tanks and healers until a full rework of these roles, but clearly it is a tank and a ranged physical dps because we don't have new ones since shadowingers
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Generals belong on /vg/
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>>737267621
I remember the alleged leak saying Ranger and Geomancer.
I'd love the silly footie pajama job but they ruined the aesthetic in 11 to make it "serious" so I'm sure Geo AF would also be atrocious in 14.
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>>737267814
XI has the classic GEO outfit too.
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I'd honestly prefer if existing jobs could specialize and branch into different roles from their primary ones.
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good thing i wont be giving yoshida my money for this crap of a "game"
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https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1684254/blog/5677374/

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>737267814
GEO would be so sick
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>>737267738
I agree. Getting a new tank is preferable to a healer though. Healer is the single most fucked role in the game and all 4 of them need reworked. AST and SCH especially are completely unrecognizable messes compared to what they used to be.
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>>737267256
stormbloods dogshit.
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>>737267980
I also feel like there's a little more freedom atm to play with a tank. At least visually. Mechanically, I'm not sure there's much of a niche.
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>>737267865
the classic geo from ff3 is a black mage in onesie pjs and a nightcap anon, this was the same in ff5
I guess its not totally random in 11 since Geomancer in ff3 does translate to "Fengshui Master".
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>>737267152
If that faggot Yoshi actually listened to fans, well get Blitzballer (rangeddps) and Chemist (healer).
Instead well get some gay shit like trannytransitioner
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>>737267980
>New healer will have a regen stance and shield stance until they add a 6th healer because they can not figure out how to do anything except a regen healer and shield healer
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>>737267927
the allegations were that Geo would be a "melee healer" but yknow whilst Geo is a big Support job in ff11, in ff3 and 5 its largely rng dps with variant elemental attacks based on your location.
Phantom Job Geo does focus on support with a dash of healing so I assume the leaker took that and ran with it.
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XIV
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>Geomancer
Healer
Core mechanic is the Luopan. Placed on the field and moveable at will, the Luopan detects changing aetherial currents around the arena and highlights them. The GEO's spell potency increases based on proximity to the aetherial currents which change at random intervals.
The GEO's skills do not directly target an enemy or ally, they are all AoE abilities centered around the Luopan. This allows the GEO to face different directions while casting, altering their available spells.
Facing the West gives the blessing of Gold, which makes the GEO's spells non-elemental but guarantees a direct crit. Their heals in this direction are shields.
Facing the East gives the blessing of Wind, changing the GEO's spells into wind-elemental spells that inflict stacking DoTs. Their heals in this direction are regens.
Facing the South gives the blessing of Fire, giving the GEO fire-elemental nukes. Fire spells absorb a stack of the wind DoT to increase damage. In this stance, healing spells do not heal but grant the party a short damage up.
Facing the North gives the blessing of Water, damage spells in this form instead grant a buff increasing the GEO's healing and damage output. Heals are powerful straight heals.
Spending enough time in proximity to aetherial currents grants Blessing of Huanglong which makes the GEO's spells earth elemental, this is basically a short-lived super nuke phase that causes their attacks to heal the party but forfeits their other stances while active.
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Please make Chemist the ranged dps
It would be kino
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I hope we don't get Geo, cause they'll get hammers and they'll be all gay about it. Holding it like a wand and shit
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>>737268284
Kino chemist would be a healer than uses a mechanic like ninjitsu to mix different potions. Then being able to hold one like astro and their cards to use in a pinch.
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>>737259205
It's going to be .55 at the earliest and we all know it. 5 more months easy.
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>>737268357
Literally pre-shb ast.
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>>737268357
>another astro
fuck no, astro is the least playerd healer and we dont need another one
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>>737268414
Yes. Parse trannies can keep their gay nu ast and we get some of the old jobs uniqueness back
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>>737267921
holy fucking ACK
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>>737268368
7.55 is in July sis.
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you know i love gacha games because they allow you to play all the content in the game for free, you can't really do that in mmos
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>>737268430
People hate astro cause it's random. Chemist wouldn't be, also
>T-The meta doesn't like it
Fuck you normies
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>>737255694
>ffxiv dips below 100k active players worldwide counting alts and free trials
Holy shit... No wonder after Blizzard just released World of Warcraft's best expansion in a decade...
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>>737251891
These retards need a new engine for their game, not a new class. This shit is so bad that the combat feels like either a turn-based RPG or a 400 ping clownfiesta.
I somewhat liked the story of ShB and Endwalker, but now the story is shit so who cares.
I liked collecting shit, but the glam thingy is limited to... ughhh, was it 700 slots? Regardless, a fucking joke in comparison to wow.
PVP will never be a thing, yet again because of dogshit engine (if you think this game has a decent pvp and can be compared to wow arena, rope yourself).
I haven't really played for longer than a month since EW release, but I believe they killed some massive mod for ERPers, which adds another group of players to "The Pissed and Upset" list.
Anyways, fuck you Yoshida, announce a new engine or go fuck yourself.
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>>737268294
the traditional geo weapon is bells though.
That would be great if it was just "Instruments" and geo got bells, saxes, harps, really anything Bardic Performance uses.
> job starting weapon is a dinky lil triangle
peak silly job
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>>737268521
AST isn't random anymore which is why it's shit. These retards keep raping good jobs and then nobody plays them anymore.
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>Restricted
>Level 50 cap
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>>737268521
>People hate astro cause it's random
Raidtranneis aren't people. AST was the most popular healer in Stormblood. Then if fell down to fucking MNK and BLU numbers in ShB after they gutted it.
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>>737268583
> people moaned and bitched about ast "uniqueness" being gone because every card was just a dps buff
> now ast has no sigils and 4/6 cards are just extra heals, which healers do not need more of
T-thanks Raiders...
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>>737268572
You know it wouldn't be. Remember dancer is meant to be "throwing weapons" and 99% of them are chakrams
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>>737268534
XIV died by suicide, Blizzard had nothing to do with it
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>>737268654
>>737268663
Raiders (trannies) are what ruined the game ultimately. Demanding every job needs to be raid viable makes zero sense in a game where you can change job at a press of a fucking button
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>>737268668
> no giant Yuffie shuriken ever
its sad how quickly they pigeonhole job weapons.
The fucking contest winner sword-chakrams are tiny as shit too
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since we are 100% getting a ranged dps do you guys have any hopes?
If they dont make it an OC class I totally want it to be a non bard ranged
A crossbow class would be ideal
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>>737262239
Its a MMO
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>>737268750
Just give us corsair like everyone thought viper was going to be before they cucked us on that.
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>>737268750
Boomerangbros
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>>737268750
Juggler
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>>737268750
something with guns i guess
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>>737268736
> raidtrannies bitched Picto had better burst damage in fru than blm
> Blm is retardproof now and Picto suffered so heavily a guaranteed crit button (hammer) was considered a dps LOSS because its potency was giganerfed
you dont hate raiders enough.
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>>737268798
Explain your reasoning.
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>>737268742
>The fucking contest winner sword-chakrams are tiny as shit too
After seeing those I realized they obviously work in a small square space for the DNC weapon and lost all hope getting anything good from it.
God those contest weapons were translated horribly into 3d. Looks like they got an intern to make them. I was so fucking pissed at home flat most of the bladed weapons were. Looked like fucking paper
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>>737268750
It's going to be a blitzball and you're going to like it.
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>>737268810
Corsair would still be best as a melee job with infrequent pistol use instead of a ranged job with infrequent sword use.

RIP all the hype, Viper was a huge letdown
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>>737268750
a gun job that is about guns instead of being a fantasy robot cuck
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>>737268810
would it have its fun card system a la 11 or just be full pirate and get a bunch of water and cannon attacks?
Ranged doesn't really need another support option.
I'd prefer if Corsair were like phys red mage and got a cutlass/pistol and could change attacking weapons during combos.
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>>737268947
so rdm as a physical ranged?
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Honestly I want a Clive job.
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>>737268750
Dual gun selfish dps. Ranged role will be more officially split into selfish/support like the casters.
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>Dawntrail did so much damage that no one is falling for the "ok lets pretend none of that happened and start where we left off with zero instead"
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>>737268981
>Clive job
What does this mean, really?
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>>737268750
Blitzballer cause it would piss people off
Musketeer so we can get a proper gun class with rifles
Hunter with a boomerang would be dope too, would also work with the theme if we do end up in Merycidia (which will end up being not Australia)
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>>737268981
You can already be a useless whiny faggot, just change to SMN.
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>>737269007
>ok lets pretend none of that happened
t. skipped every single cutscene
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>>737268852
Don't worry anon, I've hated them from the start.
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>>737268881
> ff9 expac
> "zidane job" doesnt have any of Zidanes cool dyne attacks even though they could just rip those animations straight out of Dissidia NT
> "viper" is a meaningless title as it uses no poisons in its attacks nor does it possess any snakelike skills or animations
Baffling design all-around.
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>>737268981
Smn basically covers that. You're just stuck with a book sadly
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>>737269076
Also iirc we don't meet any Vipers in Tural, and the twin-sword style of the Ja Jas has no relation to the job.
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GNB and DNC were the last decent jobs they added, RPR and VPR are huge bundles of bullshit that offer absolutely nothing to the world of XIV. SGE is whatever, PCT was pretty cool but also too hyperspecific that it doesn't feel like it belongs in the world of XIV.
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>>737269076
It came across as a weird Monster Hunter homage to me. Even their lore is just 'we hunt monsters'
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>>737269134
>no blu in tural
>no viper in tural
Tural fucking sucks. It was just some taco wank until they got to the 9th stuff they actually wanted to write stories about.
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>>737268981
Yeah bro I too want a job where you charge your gauge and then enter a burst state that consumes 50/100 of your job gauge and you get 5 GCDs worth of flashy animations every 60s or 120s if done right.
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>>737269076
Honestly the thing that gets me the most is how low effort their attack names are. Fucking 1st~4th Generation and Legacy. All 8 of those buttons would have been a different snake pun if Koji were still here.
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>>737269134
> Gulool JaJa and Bakool Jaja twinwield
> they are not vipers
> Zoraalja is ostensibly a viper
> becomes a robot monster and no attacks mirror vipers design at all
> Krile is picto rep but is perpetually irrelevant
I don't understand, they always shill new jobs with SOMEONE but in dt they just didnt.
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Put Kate's head on a silver platter, desanguinate the tranny luk wamat, will never give SE another dime until both of those things are true, and everyone else associated with the brand prostrates themselves, begs forgiveness, and vocally condemns trannies and vows that if any of those sick fucks says one sick thing in any chat channel that they, the trannies, are banned and that the FBI is closing in on their position, and that they, again the trannies, do have free uber rides to the highest bridge in any given state of the union, to do what? that's on xhem to decide
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>>737267152
I hope they're fun themed classes at least
I wasn't a fan of Viper
>lol two swordz
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>>737269197
They did the same for Dancer, Reaper and Gunbreaker in Endwalker. Removal of job quests for role quests suck ass
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>>737251891
レベルキャップ:レベル50
kekk glad I quit
Don't know why you fags are still playing this shit
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>>737269197
>>737269134
>>737269275
small price to pay for a progressive and inclusive setting
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>>737269301
viper doesnt even get any wacky out there weapons like Zidanes Ogre or Exploda or Tower
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Looking forward to cleaning up my retainers, got plenty of dyes and dungeon gear lying around. They should also consolidate Materia
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>>737251891
It's not a class it's a lazy minigame.
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>>737269326
>Removal of job quests for role quests suck ass
Job quests were the most annoying part of XIV, and role quests are the second most annoying part of XIV.
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>>737254592
If that's the case then it belongs in the trash with Beyond the Beyond.
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>>737269368
They do have Mage Mashers/The Ogre now.
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>>737269016
Using power of all primals but in a cooler way than SMN basically.
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>>737269372
Jesus, some of you are gonna be feasting for the 7.5 changes to dyes, outfit glams, the armoire.
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>>737269326
Lyna repped Dancer (poorly), Thancred got gnb then they had 3 different hrothgar gnbs for Bozja (two unless you count radovan)
Reaper was repped by Zenos THEN by Zero but they decided we needed to poorly homage ff4 by making her a paladin in fugly crusty heavensward dungeon gear after giving her an entirely unique outfit.
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>the year is 2021
>picrel got bored with wow
>plays xiv for the first time
>doubles its playerbase
>xiv is declared by media as the new MMORPG king
>leaves after 2 months
>the game is in decline ever since
How do be he be doing thet?
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>>737269395
>and role quests are the second most annoying part of XIV.
Them being entirely optional is the best part of them.
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>>737269467
I honestly think Zero was way cooler as a Reaper.
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>>737269415
that is true, and thosell be good poetic dump weapons for glam in 8.0
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>>737269395
>>737269508
Not when they stick heavily lore important characters behind them. Dumbasses
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>>737269529
she was.
Shes hardly a spellbinding character ("what are...fwends?" for TWO YEARS of patch updates that take 5 months to drop!) but lolff4reference was entirely predictable and boring.
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reaper is a flop and only carried by its lb3 and a granny.
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>>737269467
I'm meaning more they ignored the lore importance of them when you go to their nation of origin.
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sex with falafels
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>>737269565
no, you do roles to unlock af gear dye channels, the stories were whatever.
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>>737269503
Him playing certainly helped boost numbers a bit, but come now, most people stopped playing because of how stale the game has become with Dawntrail
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>>737269621
Reaper got a dungeon at least.
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>>737269642
The DT role quests (the ones I did, at least) felt way too Hildibrand adjacent.
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>>737269608
Reaper flopped cause we already had edgey melee class in DRK. Void class should have been a necromancer that throws voidsent into corpses
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>>737269642
A redundant, retarded restriction
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>>737269467
If she's gonna stick around for 8.0 then Zero will likely swap to a slightly unique version of the 8.0 PLD AF like a lot of the scions have done.
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>>737251891
>BST is a real job in XI
>Fake one in XIV
I'm so sick and tied of YoshiP.
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>>737269767
Im still mad they gave Estinien the worst artifact gear for Dragoon
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>>737269764
>PLEASE do our shitty role quests you want to dye your af right?
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I've had such a bad time doing Extreme/Savage/Ultimates in this game. Is there any other midcore or end game content that's actually sorta fun/challenging and not gimmicky as shit? I'm just really starting to hate babysitting 7 other tards (okay usually it's more like 2-3) and having to listen to drama or reddit memes as a second job. I start to get burnt out 2 weeks into a new static.
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>>737269819
If they had made Blue Mage and Beast Master "real" XIV jobs, people would be complaining saying they're not Beast Master/Blue Mage. There is no winning here
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>>737269824
im mad that raging knife ear got a vacation while i had to endure dawn slop, kate slop, hiroi slop.

>>737269870
>shit opinion
>eureka armor

every SINGLE time.
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>>737269870
I just finished skipping through the caster one today just to realize the red mage coat clipped my hair too much...
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>>737269653
A bit? That bearded fag was leading a fucking tidal wave of wow refugees. Every single wow content creator had his own "trying Final Fantasy XIV for the first time" or "I've tried ffxiv and its..." series in addition to that.
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>>737269940
Then why is DRK in the game when it doesn't play anything like a Dark Knight? They can't fall back on that excuse.
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>>737269940
There is nothing about either one that can not be translated into a real job. Shove your strawman up your ass.
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>>737269963
He's directly responsible for a lot of the drama mongering and outright mentally ill behavior in the community these days too, hell that one craft-bot for FFXIV recently was some WoW player blackmailing another WoW player into doing all those crafts manually because they have abusive histories and one would spill the beans on the other
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>>737258792
Imagine if you had all this shit to do when you wanted to gear an alt job instead of just circumventing it all with a handful of gil.
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>>737269941
Don't tell me you actually enjoyed that time waste of a role questline?
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>>737270001
"Real job" carries a lot of connotations but the ultimatum is it's not going to be a real job if it has some kind of unique system attached to it or a collectathon element
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havent played since they released the alliance raid where you beat the gods to death
did the game get worse or better since then?
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>>737269918
bump. honestly I think I die a little when someone goes "OMG PET THE LALAFELLLL" every fucking time I queue into a dungeon.
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>>737270093
If you can't do the main content on it it's not a real job. If you can't take it into an endgame raid it's not a real job.
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>>737270117
it got worse. some colored haired cunt got control of the game and some failed theatre writer wrote the sloppiest msq ever. thousands of players left in disgust. square let go a bunch of western divisions to try and shore up eastern corporate moneys and theyre just doing awful.
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>>737270117
This newest alliance raid isn't a nothingburger like The Twelve's raid was so it's already better by default
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>>737270031
I don't know, man. XIV community was, is and will consist of retarded twitter residents for the most part, be it with or without him. Also, drama is neat as long as its not boring and niche.
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>>737270093
It can be exactly like SMN where you encounter something in the MSQ and learn in a job quest. Or you can learn things you're guaranteed to encounter in a required dungeon or trial. Go through Sastasha, learn Aqua Breath from the boss. Go through Copperbell, learn Self-Destruct from the bombs.
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>>737269721
RPR flopped because it has a more annoying version of Heavy Thrust. A skill literally everyone was glad got removed from DRG in ShB.
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>>737269824
Kinda true. The SB gear is dookie.
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>>737270245
There's no arguing this, if it has a collectathon element they're never going to consider it for full jobhood. There's a stronger argument for BST than for BLU in this regard since if they wanted to be boring about it it could very easily become a melee SMN with one ranged, one melee, and one defense pet

Additionally it's probably their answer for mid-expansion job additions like Ninja was in ARR, something they said they never wanted to do again. They don't have to consider relic weapons, gear upkeep, or general job balance for limited jobs the way Ninja did and it's also an additional content piece that has high engagement during release window but isn't a huge deal if they end up having to push off updates
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>>737270264
what if to get your full buff you had to press the button twice
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>>737270264
I hate the dot application, if only because it doesn't flow animation wise.
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>>737270381
Incredibly smoochable girlfailure.
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>>737270381
Is she like an evil Aerith? I can't tell if they want her to be a villain or not.
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>>737270464
ronning ichihime's kan(y) (my name is Ron)
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>>737270503
I read: same interests as the WoL but different methodology.
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>>737270408
SMN literally has a collectathon element, as I said. You have to kill the primals in the MSQ before you can learn them in your job quests. So yes, there is an argument to be made.
Furthermore, this idea that BLU needs to have a massive collection of spells comes entirely from XI. In any other game they have between 20-30 spells. And every mage in XI has a massive list because of the style of game it is. It is not a unique trait of BLU. And while we're at it, neither is the ability to fill any role. DNC can also fill any role, but nobody demands DNC become a limited job so it can use Animated Flourish to tank. BLU just seems to have this weird fantasy version of itself cooked up in the heads of people who only know it secondhand. The same people telling us that we'll get mad if we can actually play it.
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>>737270503
Literally fucking red haired bird. Wtf
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>>737269327
Trannies and homosexuals have broken retard liberal brains
Everyone who plays XIV is a tranny and/or a homosexual
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>>737270503
I do hope she's not a villain, she comes off as a dork
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>>737270653
They'll probably be a sympathetic reluctant ally for awhile until we fight them in the 109 trial when they do their classic ascian transform magic.
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>>737270464
Chinks really do have bad taste in waifus. No wonder the most bland gacha gets sold to them.
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>>737269940
I don't hate XIV or anything, I haven't even disliked Dawntrail
but I wish it was the kind of game where classes could be unique and do fun things
It is 100% not happening, but I hope this weird not-rebirth brings it closer to that because an XIV-2 is never happening
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>>737270653
Doesn't seem like a villain-villain.
The things marking her as bad right now are: 1. Ascian and 2. allying with Calyx.
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>>737270503
She's basically the same as 6.0 Sharlayan. She's given up on solving the upcoming problem and is just trying to minimize the damage. There's no reason for her to suicide by WoL, but that doesn't mean she won't.
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>>737269508
>Them being entirely optional is the best part of them.
They're not optional if you want to dye the gear though.
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>>737269232
Reaper is my favorite job and it bothers me how fucking boring/lazy most of the attack/spell names are. You have like 4-5 cool ones like
>Gibbet
>Gallows
>Communio
>Crest of Time Borrowed
>Harpe
And the rest is like
>Slice
>Waxing Slice
>Infernal Slice
>Soul Slice
>Lemure's Slice
>Spinning Scythe
>Nightmare Scythe
>Soul Scythe
>Lemure's Scythe
They didn't even bother giving Gibbet and Gallows' gluttony-boosted versions a new name. It's the same but with "Executioner's" added on top. What a bunch of hacks
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>>737270758
The one thing SE could to do save themselves (make another MMO) is the one thing they can't do (support XIV on a zombie budget like they do with XI)
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>>737270596
SMN doesn't have any collectible elements in any practical case, you get each egi one level after you face the primal, in Ifrit's case a fairly long time after you first fought him, while Titan comes at level 35 and Garuda at level 45 with their commensurate MSQ fights at 34 and 44

Appealing to other iterations of Blue Mage seems a poor argument since Blue Mage always carries the expectation of spells filled in collectathon fashion; if at any point the devs were considering it to be a full job, it probably would have been. I don't think Blue Mage was ever under consideration for anything but limited status and never will be under consideration for anything else without the devs doing a rather radical overhaul of content model approach and really relaxing how combat is approached, which are also probably not going to happen since 8.0 is not slated to overhaul the combat system even while Yoshida is droning on about "this is the game's second rebirth, just not quite as drastic as ARR was"
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Tranny generals belong on /vg/
Head on over
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>>737270758
It used to be more like that. Then raid trannies cried that they couldn't play THEIR special snowflake job in raids cause it wasn't meta (they were too shit to clear) and now we're stuck with 2 minute bastardizing we have now. 8.0 rework has already been mentioned by Yoshi in interviews that it wont be anything big. I expect it'll be as much of a rework as what the 'big Dragoon rework' was
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5 more sleeps until this dogshit game dies for good
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>>737251891
>level 50 cap
There is literally nothing they can do to make it fun.
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>>737270653
I do hope
, she comes
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>>737270905
>support XIV on a zombie budget like they do with XI
XIV just simply couldn't exist without a content flow like XI can, even though XI has still been getting content even on maintenance mode.
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>>737270758
Jobs could be unique(or more unique) if theyd stop pandering to streamers and raiders (venn diagram is a circle).
Every jobhomo decision can be traced back to raiders because non-raiders/casual players were not the people bitching on the forums or twitter or streams about a job being too weak or strong or hard-to-play.
You'll see plenty of Machinists in dailies despite its '"bad damage" because people like af gear or guns or robots.
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>>737271053
XIV would have to make content last more than a week
Impossible for Yoshi-P thoughbeit
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>>737271053
>XIV just simply couldn't exist without a content flow like XI can
Right, because XIV has fundamental issues like the combat system not feeling fun or rewarding, and no long term grinds. XI is still SE's real MMO, and XIV is visual novel WoWclone.
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>>737270758
Jobs can be more unique.
But BLU for instance exists entirely to break the framework there is. Any redesign they make will also have a framework to operate within, even if it might not be as rigid.
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>>737271060
>Machinists in dailies
To be fair, MCH heavily overperforms in dungeons because raid buffs are less impactful with 4 people, and trash mobs mean they get to go into every boss with nearly 100 gauge.
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>>737270223
It's still a boss rush that doesn't use any unique mechanics with alliances like ARR did. We've regressed in fight design
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>>737270905
eh I'm not sure they can do anymore mmos period.
MMOs are a dying breed because 1) most mmo players are getting older so devs dont make anything too terribly grindy 2) Expert Difficulty Raids are the only new content that ever gets added so players either a) dont raid or are b) forced to join a discord and just mechanics shouted in their ears.
Even if they included every player race in 14 so everyone would have an excuse to try and added new ones (lupin? yuke from cc? anthro-chocobos? some kinda foxy race to grab that zootopia money) its a huge gamble that likely would peter out very quickly post-honeymoon new game phase.
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>>737270964
>SMN doesn't have any collectible elements in any practical case
But it does. You have to encounter and defeat the primal before claiming its power as your own. You're collecting them, but doing it in a fashion that guarantees you'll have it. So there's no reason BLU can't do the same.
>Appealing to other iterations of Blue Mage seems a poor argument
But that's exactly what you did when you tried to tell me I'd be angry if I was allowed to use it. You're pointing at past iterations and trying to claim that if this one isn't 100% faithful then it's better to just not have it at all, which is just silly. You can pick and choose what you take from past iterations, and the two primary reasons we have to suffer with limited BLU are the giant spell list from XI and the role flexibility from XI. Which, again, are not things unique to BLU in FFXI, it's a consequence of the style of game it is and both traits apply to many of the game's jobs. If we were to be entirely faithful to FFV BLU there's nothing you coudn't add except for Lv4 and Lv3 spells.
>since Blue Mage always carries the expectation of spells filled in collectathon fashion
And so does SMN. So the 'problem' can be solved in exactly the same way.
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I can't wait for friday, bros. Watching the fanfest keynotes with a thread to shitpost in is more fun than playing the game.
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>>737271261
I'm not sure we should be holding up 4 players sitting on a pad with nothing to do while the other four wail on atomos as good alliance design.
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>>737271271
By that argument, every job is "collecting" abilities. There's no difference in how Summoner receives new abilities to say a Dragoon for example. They're all just job quest rewards. You basically have to larp to pretend you're getting them in a specific way
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>>737271374
>One example that lasts two minutes tops.
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>>737271032
I absolutely cannot wait for the shitshow of NA fanfest
>at least one major member of the community held up, assaulted, jailed at customs due to ICE
>Yoshida going "we REALLY want to show you something....eto...eh....we ah....eto....we are not done with it...so sorry...ah eto sorry...prease wait longer..."
>20 minutes of a 2-hour keynote going over 8.0 and 100 minutes dedicated to how they updated polygons so they can fit more items in ARR zones
>e-celebs
It's gonna be a trainwreck
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>>737271323
expectations are nothing because na fanfest like never gets real info.
> 1 minute trailer showing no new characters except the scions saying something vague + expac name
Is about as far as we can guess we'll get.
We'd love to see 1 new job but even then most I can expect is a job title and the actual trailer/keyart at eufes.
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>>737271480
Yeah, the NA one is the worst of the three, but it'll still be a good time.
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>>737271480
You'll get the roles of the 2 new jobs and whatever shirt they throw on Yoship and like it.
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Can't wait to see the job AF gear.
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LEAK THE NEW EXPANSION IS A REWRITE OF THE LAST TWO
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>>737270758
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>>737271136
I have a feeling the big reveal will be that Jobs will be customizable and flexible like they're showing with Beastmaster.
But if you're doing a raid, you have a specific setup meant for the "2 minute meta" to keep things even/fair while that content is current.
It's like when they realized they could give PvP separate movesets compared to PvE.
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>>737271480
>>737271534
>an hour of lalafell cheek shadows
It'll be amazing.
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>>737271385
Which is the problem inherent with BLU and BST; there's not really a convincing way to facilitate that skill acquisitional larp in a normal job quest line-up, on top of which it would be disruptive to the job's core concept to have an ability cap and only be able to learn abilities at those specific quests

Which is why they just don't do it. There's not an argument to broker about it, I don't think, the collectathon is not compatible with normal job models
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>>737271549
You're dreaming if you think they'll put in that much effort
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>>737271385
If BLU was allowed to queue for dungeons and learned Blood Drain from a bat in Sastasha, how would it be different from how it learns now and how would it be any less acceptable from how SMN learns Summon Ifrit?
If you had to defeat Ramuh in the MSQ before accepting a job quest to transfer his aether to a Whalaqee totem to learn Shock Strike how would it differ from the current method or from SMN job quests? Would that be an unacceptable acquisition method for BLU? If so, why are current totems and job quests acceptable and faithful to the BLU job fantasy?
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>>737271625
>If BLU was allowed to queue for dungeons and learned Blood Drain from a bat in Sastasha, how would it be different from how it learns now and how would it be any less acceptable from how SMN learns Summon Ifrit?
It most likely wouldn't be doing that at all
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>>737270138
>>737269918
bump, can I get some advice from people here instead of being ignored and just people talking about fucking ecelebs again
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>>737271625
stfu
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>>737255694
As expected, the niche Story and Hardcore Raiders only game takes a dive when said story took a shit.
However, even if the story wasn't shit, it would still have dipped back to late SB or early ShB at best.

If you aim for niche expect to be niche, not as an insult but an understanding that this is what you want the game to be, so plan accordingly and keep a tight budget, even a niche title can keep going perpetually so long as it stays true and delivers.
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>>737271538
Dawntrail got and keeps a high score in my mind because its round of AFs were really really good
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>>737251891
>The Beastmaster job quest guy is a faggy looking catboy instead of Lyon

How did they miss the obvious layup? What the fuck
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>>737271604
You can just learn abilities from mandatory dungeon encounters and it's no different from learning a new skill on any other job on level up in the same dungeon.
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>>737271538
When is it shown? This upcoming fanfest?
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>>737271625
Blu was made limited for two reasons. The primary one was that raidtrannies would demand BLU players to adhere to the meta (meaning bringing in a set moveset with optimal damage) which would defeat the point of all the spells. The other was which they would have to nerf the fuck out of spells to not make it overpowered and required in content.
How do I know this? Yoshi LITERALLY SAID THIS WHEN THEY RELEASED BLUE MAGE, YOU DUMB NEWFAGGOT. You're argument is top tier psued shit
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Post future meme jobs
>Necromancer
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>>737271675
You can tard wrangle 3 others and do criterion I guess, but you're not getting away from the social stuff. Maybe try doing some solo deep dungeons if you really can't stand others.
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>>737271742
Whoever it was that made them mogged the fuck out of the previous EW designs
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>>737271742
ugh I wish job trailer with all the new af gear was at nafest.
I really liked using ew/dt af gear as the glam for the final zone/dungeon but can't decide on what job I'll bother doing til I see them.
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>>737271742
Yes post a fucking potato to show of gear. Great idea retard
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>>737271824
>Necromancer
I prefer nekomancer.
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>>737271742
True. A lot of DT AF gears were pretty good. Maybe in part cause of the graphical update. More detail, PBR shaders, etc. Shame the visor command doesn't work on that helm, though.
>>737271805
A bit. You'll probably see some concept art of like half of the jobs like last time.
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>>737269503
>gets raped in Alexander to the point of almost tears live on stream
>gets raped trying really hard to get Necromancer title
>has a breakdown live because people were laughing at him wiping constantly in Gordias
>suddenly starts finding reasons not to play
He's a punk ass and Alexander filtered him.
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>>737265579
I go lala to look up skirts and only play the game to raid with my friends. I was caught staring by an egirl as my friends arrived and she said in all chat "your kitty just pm'd her discord (anon)" now everyone in my group thinks im a ff14 erp fag with discord kittens. I just wanted to look at ass. This was like 2 years ago and its still an injoke i hate.
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>>737271907
Yoshi does that shit all the time. I get it, Lalas are very popular in JP, but they're awful at showing actual details.
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>>737271778
BST cat is way straighter looking than Lyon.
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>>737271778
> you have to complete the bozjan/dr/zadnor questline to access this lv50 cap job
Wouldn't go over swimmingly even if bozja is less dead than eureka because its the go-to zone for powerlevelling jobs from 71->100.
Yes you would likely have to complete Zadnor since Zadnor Notes explain Lyon turned Scilintus or whatever over to the Bozja/Dalmascan alliance and is now technically a freeman but still on the run.
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>>737270503
I hope she's done away with quickly. Le quirk chungus shit is so cringe.
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>>737271876
I actually didn't mind Tiamat armor. Its dyeability just sucked ass. It kept this inescapable blue hue that doesn't align with anything in the crevices of the gear.
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>>737271698
Covid is over. The highs of SHB and EW were never going to hold and Yoshida's team should be skewered for wasting so much money on pretending XIV's highest peaks were going to become to norm. XIV peaked on its own merits, it needed three worldwide issues not related to the game at all to get a leg up in popularity.
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'there is a janny hate crusade against XIV on /v/'
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>>737272028
The trannies still playing love that shit
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>>737272085
XIV NEVER peaked on its own merits* is what I meant to say, but that's kinda obvious.
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>>737271821
>The primary one was that raidtrannies would demand BLU players to adhere to the meta (meaning bringing in a set moveset with optimal damage) which would defeat the point of all the spells.
First of all, they already have to do this. Second of all, as I already pointed out, the giant spell list is something specific to FFXI, and it's not a unique trait of BLU in that game.
>The other was which they would have to nerf the fuck out of spells to not make it overpowered and required in content.
Again, they already do this. The specific example he gave (I know this because I watched it live, unlike you) was that it wouldn't be fun if you could just queue in and cast Lv5 Death on Omega. Hey, can you do that now? No, you can't. Obviously you can't, because that's retarded and bosses have always had death immunity in Final Fantasy. And anyway, no. They actually wouldn't have to if they weren't retarded. What would they have to nerf if Mighty Guard actually functioned like Mighty Guard in any other game instead of being a tank stance? Mighty Guard alone defeats any point you or Yoshida think you have, because it functions nothing like it does in any other game and was instead twisted to make it meta breaking. Being faithful to it would have been easier to fit into this game. The three "overpowered" spells on limited BLU's list (Mighty Guard, White Wind, Final Sting) are all self-inflicted problems that don't exist in other games. Mighty Guard is a partywide Protect+Shell, sometimes with Regen or Haste. White Wind sometimes heals for current HP, but other times heals for 1/3rd of max HP. Final Sting is only in FFXI and it isn't a giga nuke, nor does it actually kill the user.

You are wrong, and you have no argument.
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>>737271946
I'll be forever salty that Bravely Second missed out on the most obvious name in the fucking world for that job.
>JP: Nekotsukai
>EN: Catmancer
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>>737272085
And yet you'll stay subscribed
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>>737251891
I don't like that this job is just BLU 2.0
Couldn't they have done something more creative with it?
Like it would have been cool to have a monster raising mechanic to develop them and give them more attacks and maybe even specs.
Or like maybe you play as the monster while your character becomes AI controlled?
Like fuck man this is a limited job go wild with it, why does even the segregated content have to play it so safe?
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>>737272303
>I don't like that this job is just BLU 2.0
Always has been.
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>>737272303
The devs are too busy developing content for the next expansion. Those dungeons aren't going to create themselves.
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cant wait for yoship to overpromise, vaguepost and gaslight just to underdeliver and ask for full price + sub yet again when i can just play a gacha game and only pay when i want to while having access to all content
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>>737272164
I've been unsubbed for long periods, right now I'm just getting BiS for a couple more roles since the new ultimate has the potential to be interesting instead of ancientslop. I'm not bemoaning that XIV didn't remain 2mil+ concurrent subs, quite the contrary, I'm griping more about them not rolling back the multiple DCs at this point. People complain Dynamis is a ghost town, so why not just sunder it into Aether and Primal? Let people keep their homes, DD scores, etc just delete Dynamis because it doesn't matter anymore and put the worlds into active servers.
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>>737272085
You can actually see in early EW when the oldfags started to drop sub because they beat all the content the game had to offer from the old to new.
You can gradually see the dip of new players who joined mid / late ShB do the same as EW trudged on and the trend continued in DT but with the inclusion of fake and gay story damaging it further.

Story players / non-hardcore raiders have basically has 2 full expansions of nothing. They could come back and sub for 2 months of a new expansion and 1 month prior to the next new one and achieve everything they want.
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>>737272303
>FROM THE TWISTED MIND OF MR. OZMA
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>>737272153
>I have no argument
Go tell the games producer, seething newfaggot.
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>>737272509
Worked for me. I enjoyed DT.
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>>737272303
>creative
you expect too much. the entire philosophy of cs3 game design has been "why fix what isn't broken?" ever since stormblood.
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>>737272153
Yeah the idea that Blue Mage HAS to be broken is just insanely stupid, it's perfectly balanced in every other game it's in.
That said the spell collection aspect is a perfectly reasonable variable to not make it a normal job, yeah as it is now you're still expected to use meta spells, but at least you're not gonna get stuck in a 45-minute expert roulette cause the braindead BLU that queued with you only ever bothered to get 3 spells.
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>>737257137
Golbez ex meteor towers is a good example of his work. God help you if even one retard failed to stand in their designated pixel. Fantastic fight but only with friends.
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>>737272672
>BUT THE ALMIGHTY YOSHIDA SAID...!
If I ever get to meet him somehow I will be damn sure to tell him that his excuses for BLU make no sense, you can be sure of that.

>>737272723
But you can also currently end up with anyone missing vital spells from job quests. Or someone who only presses one button. That's a player problem, not a job design problem.
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>>737272539
>he's getting bis because he's a tranny that feels so mazed
>necessitates a headcanon in his schizophrenic frogposting brain that he needs multiple gear sets for multiple roles
>fake hypes up some ultimate that it'll have potential like eden wasn't rancid dogshit
at least you keep your house with the subscription
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>>737258518
X.55 legendary fish are still months away though... But atleast fishers are getting content updates.
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>>737257137
>since 7.1
i quit at the same patch. when i wasn't interested enough that i still hadn't done the new alliance raid or chaotic alliance raid after a month i realized that i should stop letting my houses tie me to the game.
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>>737272851
It's not about 'the almighty yoshida said' it's that you're an autistic nobody that has no say and he's an autistic somebody that gets to put his decisions in the game.
As I said, keep seething newfaggot
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>game will EoS before we get a proper WoL (you) vs WoL from another reflection
Dayum shame. Least we got Nophica and Menphina in all their glory though.
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>>737272851
>But you can also currently end up with anyone missing vital spells from job quests. Or someone who only presses one button. That's a player problem, not a job design problem.
Why do you think they stopped giving out job abilities in job/role quests? Because this was a common issue they wanted to prevent going foward. Round the same time Blu was implemented
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>>737273058
You said this in another thread and got promptly reminded about Albert
>B-But that doesn't count
It does
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>>737272061
Tiamat had an ugly helmet but was pretty slick Dragoon armor otherwise
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>>737273157
>Albert
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>>737273058
THERE'S ALREADY TWO (COUNT 'EM, 2) WOL FIGHTS IN THE GAME WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ONE
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>>737273179
work phoneposting
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>/v/ threads when you don't bother engaging with gratuitously negative bad faith posters
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>>737273024
>THEY HAD TO BECAUSE XYZ YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
And that reasoning doesn't add up.
>WELL YOU'RE A FUCKING NOBODY AND NOT A DEV SO FUCK YOU!
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>>737272582
>Story players / non-hardcore raiders have basically has 2 full expansions of nothing.
Yeah, the lack of an exploratory zone in EW really sucked for the people who used that to fill the void. OC wasn't good either. Couple that with the dragging void story arc and dawntrial double whammy. It's been what, almost 4 years.
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>>737273368
Quit flailing
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>>737273368
>I wasn't there but I know better than you
Lmao, go outside and take a breath, seething newfaggot
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>>737273330
Uh oh, little melty time
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>>737273330
>say bad thing
>any criticism
>ERM bad faith? no negativity in the dojo!
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>>737273157
Who cares about a single player scenario where we fucking click alisae to give her bullshit power?
>>737273267
Absolute horse hockey, that mother fucker was basically a primal masquerading as a WoL.

We need another reflection's almost equivalent to the Twins where one of them fucking dies and the other goes ballistic genocide mode on the ones responsible and (you) begrudgingly stop them because "it's the right thing to do".
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>>737251891
Someone explain skill chains to me, someone mentioned that Beastmaster might have them
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>>737273550
>negativity in the dojo
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>>737272854
Every ult since Alex has been rancid dogshit, but Ozma is 0/2 with designing ults and he was too distracted with BST for this one so chances of it being good are higher than usual.
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>Level cap 50

what?
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>>737273576
>I want a 1v1
>NOOO NOT A SINGLEPLAYER ONE
the fuck do you want nigger?
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>>737273473
>doesn't know what the goobbue means
>calling anyone else a newfag
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>>737273610
>Someone explain skill chains to me
Do skills in a certain order, increase the potency. It's literally just combo actions.
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>>737273716
It's a limited job, BLU was the same way on release
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>>737273576
>basically
He WAS a primal.
Anyway no, they've exhausted the mechanical possibilities of a WoL fight, I don't need a third boss that uses player LBs and class switches as its main gimmick.
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>>737273576
>We need another reflection's almost equivalent to the Twins where one of them fucking dies and the other goes ballistic genocide mode on the ones responsible and (you) begrudgingly stop them because "it's the right thing to do".
That wouldn't be a reflection of the WoL at all though?
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>>737273746
I don't think he *cared* what the goobbue meant. You can buy a legacy account, after all.
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>>737273735
>never say I want a 1vs1
>someone says I did
Anyways I'll be leaving, argue amongst yourselves.
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>>737271542
Since the last two were almost pure shit writing-wise I would welcome this
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>>737256558
man Westwolves was so hype
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>>737273746
Nigger there are so many better ways to show you're a legacy player than ripping a generic picture off the web of that mount lmao.
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>>737273764
>class switches
That actually makes me wonder if the intention with Shiva was to make her a pseudo-WoL fight as well, since she switches between melee, caster and ranged weapons and obviously in the story Ysayle also has the blessing.
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>>737269461
whats the change? Havent heard
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>>737273825
>game will EoS before we get a proper WoL (you) vs WoL from another reflection
How many people are in that sentence that (you) wrote anon?
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>>737261185
immediately killing this niggas was one of the many terrible design choices of EW
all 12 of them should have become mortal like Oschon, and the raid series become mandatory so they can show up to future side content
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>>737267152
>He hasnt realised Halmarut and Calyx is a PUP tease.
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>>737268997
I raise your Gunner to Chemist
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>>737273904
All ARR dyes will become one dye item, all Ishgard dyes will become one item, all Cosmic Exploration dyes will become one item. The only remaining separate dyes will be stuff like jet black.
Armoire will be able to store all 7.0 and beyond dungeon gear.
Glamour outfit feature (basically turns an entire set into something that will take up only 1 slot but you can use the parts separately in glamour plates) will be applicable to all 3.0 and beyond dungeon gear.
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>>737273904
Dyes are being consolidated down into two or three omni-dyes, with the exception of any cash shop purchasable dyes or dyes found in the Retainer Coffer loot pool
All dungeon gear from 3.0 onwards is becoming an Outfit Glamour and can therefore take up only one slot in the glamour dresser (dyes are not retained when converting sets to an outfit glamour, be careful, you may want to keep it individually in the dresser if it's something like Jet Black)
All artifact armor and all 7.0+ dungeon armor sets can be stored in the armoire
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>>737273825
I want to play mahjong with these qties.
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>>737273756
Yes, yes and how many years ago was that? You're supposed to improve, not stagnate.
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>>737261185
It's the mount for gathering all the EX trial wings.
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>jesse cox's got scammed ordered a calyx fursuit
lol
lmao
https://x.com/JesseCox/status/2045332525070061696
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>>737251891
If it doesn't let you solo EX fights, there wasn't much point.
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>>737270841
My guess is it turns out we need to summon a new hydaelyn and the winterers are hoarding aether for that and it seems okay until she acts like its perfectly natural to want to insert new commands in the summoning to pull another eplis style "prove your worth or go extinct" clause and we have to fight her and she tries to become the new mothercrystal summon and gets replaced by krile.
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>>737261185
Introducing the Twelve just to immediately kill all of them with the only one surviving being Oschon because he's human-ish and the Azem analogue already is the funniest shit

Not only was it completely and utterly pointless and resulted in the visual vomit that is the Theologia boss at the very end, but it introduced five waifus just to immediately yank them away from anybody that got unhealthily attached to them in their five minutes of life
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>>737269503
>>737271980
it's fucking hilarious that people thought XIV was casual crap because they probably did Sastasha and stopped playing after. I asked coworkers about how they felt about it and discovered they didn't even get to Ifrit in their first month of playing. Like come the fuck on now.
>>737270503
Stop pushing this Aerith propaganda faggot.
>>737271778
All our favorite Bozja Garleans are probably going to be relevant in the questlines.
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>>737267738
I really don't want them to fall into a pattern with jobs so hopefully it isn't a tank and ranged again.
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>>737274196
XIV is super casual if we're being honest. That's the appeal. It has something for the poopsockers but it's also super casual by poopsock standards with very low investment.
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>>737274160
Are the monsters even targetable? Are you able to use them as a tank?>>737274167
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>>737274171
I want everyone to take a moment and reflect on how utterly horrible Eulogia (I got the name wrong) is as a design

I would genuinely suspect this of being AI generated if it had come out a year or two later
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>>737274119
i'm going to remember this next time i play cyberpunk and let his dick burn off
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>>737273942
their reveal was fucking baaad. killing them was fucking awful. I agree that they should have all just become mortals. how they fucked up having 11 more characters for people to fangirl over when they make a quest cameo is beyond me
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>>737274119
you get what you fucking deserve
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>>737273996
>ranged phys is just issuing commands to your puppet
Kino
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>>737274328
>Pull this shit in the Eden final fight
>People hate it and see it as a letdown
>Immediately do it again the next expansion
Wtf is wrong with them?
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>>737274119
lmao that face is no where close. it's just some generic mascot
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>>737274328
I usually hate this argument but like what game series do you think you're playing?
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>>737274016
>>737274059

hm sounds complicated but I'll wait to see.
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>>737274481
Don't give me that, the likes of Zeromus and Necron aren't shit randomly stapled onto a humanoid the way Eulogia is
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>>737274315
from what I saw they had no health bars, they just auto if you're not issuing direct commands, so no tanking from them
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>>737274502
The basic gist of it is that you're gonna free up ~40 retainer/inventory slots because you don't need to store individual dyes, you can consolidate dungeon armors down into their sets which take up only one slot in the dresser, and all artifact armor and Dawntrail dungeon gear can go in the armoire where ARR artifact armor and holiday/event sets go
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>>737274328
Reminds me of that one thunderbolt fantasy dude.
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garleniggers seething every thread kek.
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>>737274502
It's not super complicated.
Like 75 or so dye colors will become one item, saving you bag space.
More gear will be saveable as a set in the glam dresser or inside the armoire, saving you glamour dresser space.
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>>737274119
Imagine Jesse Cox in a Calyx fursuit. He would be waddling around like a bloated penguin with really bad body odor and a happy s(o)yjak face.
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>>737274581
If it's a solo-capable job I'd assume there has to be at least one or two tanking capable monsters just so you don't die instantly, unless BST is beefy enough on his own to do it
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>>737274534
Ok.
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>>737274629
>He would be waddling around like a bloated penguin with really bad body odor and a happy s(o)yjak face.
How is that different from a normal furry?
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>>737274673
The normal furry is comfortable with himself in that thing
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>>737274534
You think we'll get the other versions of Zeromus?
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>>737274731
One is already the Pilgrim's Traverse endboss iirc
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>>737274642
They probably have some that give you buffs/shields/heals to enable soloing, I doubt any directly tank.
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>>737268750
How about a gun job that isn't cringe like Machinist
>>737273749
That's a little less exciting than I thought, but I figured that's what it would be
I feel like Black Mage should have operated like that instead of being a Fire IV turret They should have did the ra-aga-aja naming convention for spells too
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>>737274731
Already did.
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>>737274772
>spoiler
Get the Namingway plogon
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>>737274502
Remember how glamour prisms used to be for individual pieces and then the consolidated them? It's that with dyes
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>>737274534
> neo-exdeath
> kefkas pillars
> final ultimecia
Its not a huge tradition but it does happen more frequently than you might think.
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>>737251891
The only thing that would make it interesting is letting them summon something genuinely imposing and letting them mount Cocobutt to breed more, kinda like using a Ditto in Pokemon nurseries.
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>>737274581
Christ it's worse than I thought. I expected it to at least work like your companion Chocobo but having different monsters fill different roles like old summoner.
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>>737274670
For me it's final Ansem
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>>737274876
In all practical terms it IS old Summoner
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>>737274876
>>737274946
Just after they made egis untargetable so they couldn't tank ramuh for you.
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>>737274915
Rough impregnating sex with Wuk Lamat for about one or two straight weeks, and then immediately leaving Tural
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>>737274946
Old summoner had pets that could tank and had a HP pool
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Why is nothingburger QOL should've been implemented 5 years ago as a 1 line footnote in some nothing patch being touted and celebrated like it's content or worthy of SE talking about anywhere? It's so cringe and retarded like who the fuck cares.
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>>737275083
MMOs are the only game type ever where people get pissed at updates
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>>737274913
> you have to beat ansem
> then defeat individual pieces while saving donald and goofy
> then destroy the remainder of the ship until ansem is fightable again
It was kino, only topped by Xemnas because Sora and Riku fighting together was incredible
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You guys acting like ffxiv is some ex girlfriend that dumped you will never not be funny.
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>>737275119
Explain why dyes are worth discussing outside of a 1 liner at the bottom of a page of patch notes.
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>>737275026
I miss seeing TItan Egis do that. Shit, there's a lot I miss, but Cleric Stance is not one of them, nor is Bow Mage from HW BRD.
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>>737275156
You are manually remembering healers not being able to attack a raid boss if they hadn't dumped into the Accuracy stat
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>>737275083
Yoshi has always done this shit for basic QoL stuff. This isn't anything new
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>>737275156
Bow and Gun mages we're hilariously stupid
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>>737275178
They still attacked, you just had to accept that you'd miss like 10% of the time even with accuracy melds.
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>>737275178
Somehow I think I was never aware of that, or just didn't think about it at the time. Protect, Stoneskin, and Paladin having access to those + Cure. Having to level a boring-ass Thaum to get Swiftcast for my WHM. Having to lvl Archer to unlock WHM was the weirdest shit.
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>>737275119
The mental illness that is MMO player should be studied more
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>>737274778
damn this bitch ugly
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>>737274465
Lol, I bet the "creator" bought that shit on discount at Party City, and made only a couple token changes and additions like the cape thing.
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>>737275242
>You just have to accept that you eat shit 10% of the time for no good reason
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>>737251891
>Beastmaster
>One handed axes
>Uses a shield
>DPS

Boring. How does it work? Is it like a Hunter? You fight alongside a pet? Or you can capture pets/upgrade them? I guess it'll be fun for people who like that playstyle. I'm a sword autistic, so I'll stick with my SAM.
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>>737275395
Yes, that's life in general.
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>>737252137
yes, I have been a blue mage main since ff11 years ago and was immensely hype to see its incarnation in ff14, and i obviously wasnt the only one disappointed considering it was the most wanted class and immediately was dead on arrival. no clue wtf they are smoking adding another unfinished fluke class, they're just too retarded to make hybrids work in the dogshit forced rotation holy trinity setup they have. same reason they've homogenized all the other classes into clones of each other to fit their role like a glove.
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>>737275284
>Archer to unlock WHM was the weirdest shit.
Somthing somthing one with nature.
Personally i didn't mind all of that. Promoted playing other roles so you don't typecast yourself later
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>>737274119
>non furry gets scammed out by aislop
Checks out, it really sucks but if you're not a furry it's really hard to navigate all the scammers that popped up in recent years, meanwhile the actual real suit makers only cater to rich IT furries with their insane prices
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>>737252613
>>737251891
>It's a limited job

Oh...I rescind my question then. I thought it was like a full-blown job. If it's limited...then yeah...it'll have probably half of what an actual job can do and will really only be for RP purposes or people who want to dick around with it but not fully commit to it.
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>>737275439
You capture pets and they do some abilities, then you have your own rotation and you can switch between 3 pets in a fight.
>>737275479
Neutral, mostly. Zero didn't do it for me. But I like that it's at least going back to void stuff they set up rather than memory holing it.
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>>737275442
Sounds like you got brain damage and accept shitty game mechanics
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>>737275439
The axe and shield comes from Bozja. There were Beastmasters that used that cause they could just asset flip existing weapons.
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>>737275460
>yes, I have been a blue mage main since ff11 years ago and was immensely hype to see its incarnation in ff14
Translation, he has never ever played ff11, he has only played ffxiv and he doesn't play blu in it either.
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>>737275479
Dread cause I found it all boring Hiroi slop. You should too because she wont be your autistic waifu you want anymore
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>>737275468
>Before you can become a White Mage, you must become One with Nature. So here's a Bow, go shoot the local wildlife with arrows for about 15 levels.
Fuckin' topkek

Also this goddamn captcha gets worse every week I swear to god. It was nice when it was just 2 solves, now I'm getting fucking 4 and they're getting weirder.
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>>737275562
I'm not the one still upset with a shitty mechanic that's been gone for 8+.
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>>737275468
>Promoted playing other roles so you don't typecast yourself later
It didn't do this, all it did was annoying and confusing people by forcing them to play things they didn't want to play while also not actually giving you anything worthwhile in return.
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>>737275479
She's a 10/10 compared to fucking Wuk. Hopefully her existence means the new PLD set looks good on girls.
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>>737275479
I love her they should replace Wuk with her
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>>737275479
*tips hat*
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>>737275285
Unironically there should be a LOT of psychological and psychiatric studies of MMO players and other live-service addicts, but I think it's not pursued because live-service/MMO tends to have a gambling element and there's so much FUD directed at gambling to keep its objectively negative effects from having a light shone on it
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>>737275479
I hope she dies this time
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>>737275284
>>737275468
>>737275701
What are you guys talking about Arcanist was the White Mage sub class.
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>>737275761
Only if you were retarded. 1-15 wasn't even that hard. Plus requireing multiple classes to upgrade to a better class (job) is a common staple of Final Fantasy
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>>737251891
>level cap 50
>SE actively removing content from limited jobs so they wont even be able to do beast tribe quests
Holy shit what the fuck is the point
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>>737275774
With an okay writer, maybe Zero can be a bit better.
Still not fond of her PLD look though.
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>>737275870
I hope we can kiss her this time.
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>>737274946
Oh hell no, I mained that shit during 2.x. By the end of it I was soloing A-ranks and all maps with Titan(fuck's sake I cracked like 400 unhidden leather maps trying to get my nutkin; I got rich off those drops, but never got the minion, ended up buying it for virtually nothing a bit before ShB came out when I realized the price had dropped from millions to like 50k). I'm still angry about the way they handled stat weighting going into HW, we got gimped hard and never recovered.

>>737274995
It's funny because I did do emergency Titan tanks a few times during the second half when someone fucked up the insulation buff to buy enough seconds to recover.
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>>737275828
Actually it's funny because I'm pretty sure I saw an icon for a "tip hat" emote icon a little while back.
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>>737275479
I like her paladin design quite a bit
Also: pale pussy lips and silvery pubes
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>>737275274
It ain't like that now Evil Vizzers, I just wanna shitpost in the end really
But I am happy I did it
Looking forward to Fan Fest news and the new Ulti info, I'm a total sucker for classic FF nostalgia, been asking for Warring Triad into Kefka for some time...
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>>737275893
Fun.
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>>737275893
Who the fuck was doing beast quests as BLU
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>>737275893
>Daily rep grind from 12 years ago
>Content
If you say so sis.
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>>737275883
Maybe that's what I was confusing Arc-anist/Arc-her. You're right. Though I still don't see how casting spells like BIO and RUIN and summoning small furry animals to get hit, shot, and beaten on are related to being "one with nature"
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>>737276027
I think like a total of 3 people even knew it was possible.
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>>737257405
You say this but then why did they remove gender restrictions on stuff like the bunny suits?
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I started playing recently, im a level 49 black mage soon to be level 50, is there any particular set of gear I should go for and deck out that will last a while or do I just stick with the wizard set the job quests are giving me? Also please recommend cool looking mage sets i should go for, I want to be a badass wizard but a lot of the gear I've been getting up until now is either super frumpy or butt ugly, also also please recommend a cool staff, either one I can actually use cause it has good stats or even just one that looks really nice for glam, atm im using longstop pole for my glam and want an upgrade
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>>737276027
Literally no one, but it's just bad timing.
>Hey we didn't give you anything and we also took something away.
Should have just put it at the bottom of main patch notes instead of getting it's own special announcement or no one would care.
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>>737276030
Why change it then?
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>>737276210
You'll get an upgraded version of that artifact armor to alleviate some of the level discrepancy introduced at level 50
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>>737275950
Can I still get one though
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>>737276210
you should get ilvl 120/130 gear via poetics when you hit 50
im pretty sure the MSQ gives you way better stuff than the job AF gear too
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>>737276252
Oh so once I get the gear it gets upgraded? Alright that sounds good to me. What materia do you think i should slot in once I get it? So far I've just been filling everything with spell speed materia
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>>737276210
Just keep following the story and you'll be appropriately gear. Look up where to unlock glamours and you can make your own cool outfits
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>>737257787
You can actually solo that lvl80 dungeon SYNCED as warrior, the one with the seeker of solitude boss.
So I imagine you could lvl100 stuff too...? But idk maybe the mobs there just hit too hard.
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>>737276308
Sorry but what are poetics?
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>>737276360
New currency you unlock once you hit 50
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>>737276210
Ironworks gear which you can buy with Tomestones of Poetics will last you until 55~. The same is true for the gear you can buy with poetics at 60,70,80 etc. You should always buy the weapon 1st since its the most important.
>>737276360
A currency you'll stat getting from dungeons/trials/raids once you hit 50.
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>>737276210
Sorry bro, I play a fiddie blm so I only know cute glams not cool ones. I always liked the baby on a stick Ruby weapon staff though.
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>>737276241
The actual answer is that the scaling probably caused some dumb bugs with BST and its way easier to just prevent players from doing it that wrestle with their ancient spaghetti code.
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>>737276241
Because fuck you
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>>737276308
Sphene is cute. Cute!
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>>737276501
>I only know cute glams
pic unrelated?
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>>737276037
The way I always took the class requirements back in the day is that you're mixing the two classes a bit.
Like the obvious example is Paladin being Gladiator + Conjurer cause Paladin is a Gladiator with healing magic and such, or Dragoon being a Lancer with Marauder's tankier capabilities.
White Mage requiring Arcanist to me is more like the Conjurer needs to learn how to draw on spells that aren't inherently tied to the elements, which ends up being the basis for most White Mage spells.
(Don't ask me why Archer + Pugilist = Bard)
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>>737276505
>>737276515
Both valid answers from that team
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>>737276560
Yeah.
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>>737276310
You get a second set that's a recolor of the original AF armor; all ARR jobs get this, it used to be a tomestone set. Black Mage's is the "Sorcerer's" set
Materia doesn't matter too much unless you're at the most relevant current level cap, which would be 100
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>>737276501
Nibba he just hit 50, where is he gonna get that staff?
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>>737274328
I almost managed to forget how utterly vile that raid series was in terms of creativity. Just the classic in/out/right/left meme on repeat at a glacial pace, particularly prominent in the second raid. And the grand final boss has the nerve to repeat every previous boss mechanic in a row with zero variation or twist while looking like visual clown vomit. Atleast the waifus were cute for the brief time we had them but man what happened.
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>>737267360
>Enjoy Shisui now because the tamatebako mechanic is getting raped away in two weeks
The tama-what now?
Also are you fucking serious they are now even raping non-ARR lvling dungeons?
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Another bump cap thread. You'd think the janny must REALLY hate these threads though :|
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>>737276671
>Also are you fucking serious they are now even raping non-ARR lvling dungeons?
They're doing it so the dungeons work with Trusts.
The "i want to play this MMO but as a single player game" retards won.
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>>737276720
He probably got told off after that post the other day.
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>>737276743
What post?
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>>737276310
Materia doesn't really matter except in current level cap, you'll be upgrading to new equips too fast. Lv54 bitch gear is stronger than any perfect Lv50 gear. To answer your question in a very general way however you always take as much crit as is possible, followed by direct hit(on DPS jobs), and then det. Only after you can't fit any more of those will you worry about speed. Well, worry is too strong a word really, you need to stack a huge amount to shave even a tenth of a second off your cast, SE made the stat nearly worthless.

Best in slot min-max stats at level cap is a horse of a different color. It'll vary WILDLY during an expansion's patch cycles, depending on gear and various breakpoints that come and go, changes to rotations, etc.
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>>737267543
Either that or the trusts are only programmed to go near them when she's about to use the relevant kick
Aurum Vale changed so little I wondered why they even announced they'd touched it, I don't expect Shisui to be much different
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>>737275479
Single reason why I may stop skipping cutscene.
t. just cleared yuwawata
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>>737276210
I actually think the level 15 mage gear is one of the better looking early game mage outfits.
Otherwise the Battlemage set from Brayflox's Longstop is also good.
Outside of that wait until you're level 60 and can get Shire gear.
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>>737276736
Those people are never going to play XIV.
It's really because queue times are fucking abysmal.
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>>737276720
>have good threads for a change of pace
>immediate complaining that bad spammed threads and janny targeting were made up
Love to see it
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>>737276837
This will just further rape queue times.
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>>737276790
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737117346/#q737126847
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>>737276849
You're a schizophrenic, is all I'm implying
Sometimes it's a fart in the wind if anything happens here. But you get a bruise you cry like it's another holocaust or some shit
It's never mattered because a new one gets posted afterwards regardless
>>737276915
It doesn't look like that on janny side
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>>737276946
>It's never mattered because a new one gets posted afterwards regardless
Part of the problem is one dedicated loon's shitpost thread immediately goes up again after deletion yes
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>>737276671
The thing where you have to become old so you don't get charmed by Fake Princess flashing her tits at you.
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>>737276998
Fucking devs I want to see Hisui's tits.
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>>737276998
I cannot imagine how they will rape that mechanic because it already seems simple enough, but I know they will fucking find a way.
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>>737276832
Diabolic set is also great but good luck farming for it
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>>737276989
the 'please don't delete this' was a shitpost one huh
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>>737277183
You don't have to, there are 2 other versions that are much easier to get and dyable to boot.
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Is there a set that can make me look like vivi? He's my favorite final fantasy character
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>>737277276
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/glamour/191988/vivi-ornitier
check the glam site. this has the eureka dyebale gear ee
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>>737269918
bump
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>>737277186
>>737276849
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>>737276915
unironically, how do you complain about this? the "feedback" form just has shit about computer issues iirc, fucking useless
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>>737277276
Vivi's pants and shoes are part of the Historia set for casters (everything from the waist up is garbage for Black Mage)
Alternatively ARR's pants made dyeable with an augment and the Ivalician Arithmetician's shoes from Stormblood are serviceable alternatives
Vivi's coat is outright given to you as the Seventh Hell artifact armor in Stormblood
You can't really affect Vivi's eyes and lack of face without a dwarf-themed piece of gear from Shadowbringers, but there's lots of appropriate hats and gloves
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>>737277276
Closest you're gonna get is the Level 70 Black Mage gear.
For some reason that's the only time they actually tried to make a proper Black Mage outfit, everything else is literally just a fully black or purple wizard outfit.
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>>737277560
Nothing to really do but flame the mods in IRC about it but that doesn't do anything but get you banned instantly (sometimes they come straight out of AFK to ban somebody pissing at them in IRC lel)
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>>737275856
I just bot the content on my character, its super fun.
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>>737269918
bump
im guessing nobody here ACTUALLY plays FFXIV.
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>>737276998
Why does that need to be removed? Can the not path an npc trust member to run to behind the fucking box?
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>>737277689
nigga it doesn't exist
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>>737277689
>asking for content in XIV
lmao, if you would consult the chart chuddie >>737255694
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>>737277689
There's the criterion dungeons that's 4 man content. Good luck finding some people to do it cause no one ever does
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>>737277727
Fucked if I know, YoshiP gets a bit too far into the wine some days.
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>>737277689
I already told you mr greedy >>737271843
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>>737277689
I am rn! I am still grinding this shitty dt relic
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fire kate fire hiroi
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>>737278434
I thought Kate was fired, Hiroi prob got demoted



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