I think Yoshida has fallen off since saving XIV in 1.0. Final Fantasy has fallen.
>>737360721be honest chud, the only reason you dont like this game is because its for transfolx
yeah yeah who gives a shitbingo for fanfest, give me ideas for the remaining slots
>>737361548Zero tips her hatCross-DC PFMore housing changes
>>737360721He took his eye off the ball while working on 16 and ended up failing both halves of the franchise.
>>737361697I don't think she even has her hat anymore as a paladin.
>>737360721>normalizing back to the numbers the game should have always been before the wow babbies flooded in Why is this a bad thing? I guess it was for SE because they spent the money on all that extra infrastructure but they should have known it wasn't gonna keep growing, they always end up crawling back to wow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCGzxWczCMWOKE TRAIL IS OVERNEW EXPANSION APRIL 24
>>737361797She gets it back just to tip it, anon.WORK WITH ME HERE.
>>737361868It's a bad thing for Square because suits always wanna see number go up.
>>737361548blitzball (for real this time)
>>7373607211.0 was a better designed mmo than reborn and Yoshida was always a hack.
>>737360721what does the orange bar mean and why is it lower than arr
>>737361548Alisaie cosplay.
This is the real reason the game is dying.
I waited literal years for this game to come to Xbox because it had been hyped up so much, then I got it and was like “what the fuck, this is it?”
>>737362748>random forums post from a decade and half ago>truest statement you have ever readWhy is it always like this
>>737362748He wasn't wrong.
Looking forward to the new BLU Job this patch.
>>737362748>jump around like a sperg as bard>some autistic dork in the group says im trollingwtf? no fun allowed
>>737363171Imagine being so miserable while playing a video game.>>737363162Yeah, about that...
>>737363162I won't
>>737361548>B-team scions become relevantDidn't we see Coultenet, Aenor, and Hoary Boulder in the Rising Stones in the trailer?
>>737364376yeah but that could just be they show up in a cutscene for 7.5, go "we got the home front guys", then don't show up in 8.0
>>737364776Historically, that is the more likely option.Having said that, that looks like it could be a voiced cutscene.Have we ever heard Coultenet's voice? I know we've heard Hoary Boulder's during Endwalker.
Anyone else tired of XIV humor? I don't mind slapstick or anything I love Tomino shows but some of the Hildebrand shit is making me fucking die inside. It's one thing having a serious plot in the middle of hijinks, it's another thing if the hero doesn't take it seriously and LOL DANCING ZOMBIES WHAAAAAAT XD
>>737361930>brand new adventure falls on its face>next expansion is an Endwalker epilogue storyThe worst thing about the XIV team is when they do a course correction they always overdo it and lap right back around into more shitty decision making.
>>737365026I started reading this post and I assumed it was gonna be about shit like "DRG FLOOR TANK FARLEMALD WOO WOOO OH NO HES HOT". I was about to agree with you, but then I read the rest.I don't really care to be honest. Hildibrand doesn't do anything for me, so I don't do it.
>>737360721I stopped playing after Heavensward. I gave zero fucks about the Stormblood story.
>>737365108Oh that too. If you wanna talk about that we can talk about that because holy fuck innocent boss fight turned something cool to some PTSD reddit cringe. I swear to god if I EVER get it in Trials roulette, some fucker ALWAYS does it. Have an oldie that I had back in the day. The humor is also pretty meh in the MSQ as well. I think the biggest problem with the slapstick is the forced emotes and I get they're limited by the system but the whole "...... OMG AHHHH!" stuff is overplayed way too much.
>>737365181what is a sward?
This thread flopped and slopped op
Yoshit Pee
>>737365242>Oh that too. If you wanna talk about that we can talk about that because holy fuck innocent boss fight turned something cool to some PTSD reddit cringe.The community has facebook mom levels of humor. Not only is 90% of what they laugh about not funny, they can't let a joke or catchphrase go once it's out in the wild. Some shit is literally a decade old.>Have an oldie that I had back in the day. What is it with people trying to make Cid and Nero gay. I had that happen last time I went into Praetorium as well. It's weird.>The humor is also pretty meh in the MSQ as well.There's some moments in the MSQ that make me smile or smirk, but I never outright laughed, or anything.Urianger moments tend to work for me. Very deadpan humor. Loporrits can be funny on occasion as well, when the jokes aren't overwrought like the Puddingway stuff. I liked their autism when discussing the Final Days.>very sad, that
>>737365672LA HEEE????? XDBREAD?????? BEEF TACOS BEEF TACOSI never played past EW due to how bad the community burnt me out, idek if they have more retarded memes
>>737365785BIG FAT TACOS BIG FAT TACOS BIG FAT TACOS SO BIIIIIG XD THIS IS THANCRED
>>737360721>SE literally filling Aether with bots to give the illusion that people are still playing this game, to the point that you can't DC travel to it during the day, during a downtime period between patches 4 months after the raid tier releasedYou cannot make this shit up. Yoshi P is a fucking clown.
>>737365905source?
Do you still have to beat all the old content before you start new content? I didn't buy dawntrail, but if I wanted to play the next expansion I would still have to play through all the dawntrail content? Am I remembering this wrong or did they say that they wanted to create a new starting point for the game so people wouldn't have to play all the old shit for months?
>>737365242>>737365026You used to occasionally be able to get a decent group to shoot the shit with in old prae. the 4 man version doesn't have the same camaraderie for whatever reason. you can also sometimes get some genuine funny people in hunt trains but you usually have to be the one to break the ice of saying something thats not one of the canned lines. take that one with a grain of salt though, i'm usually drunk on hunts.
>>737366330Yes, you still have to get through at least the MSQ for Dawntrail.>Am I remembering this wrong or did they say that they wanted to create a new starting point for the game They said they were considering it, but probably realized very quickly how bad of an idea it is.
>>737365672The only time I laughed in the MSQ was in EW when everyone's searching for whatever at the bottom of a fountain and the WoL offers to drink all the nasty stagnant pond water to dry it up
>>737366454really wish they'd crack down hard on misuse of party finder like thisESPECIALLY for venue ads
>>737366484based WoL being the only one to do what needs doing
>>737365672>What is it with people trying to make Cid and Nero gay.a lot of people(even younger men) aren't familiar with normal male interpersonal relationships so anything more than the predator handshake between 2 fictional men is read as gay.
>>737366597maybe you just need to drink more water and chill out! xD don't like it? don't use it.
>>737360721I've never seen so many schizos and trannies in any gameI don’t want FFXIV dies like this, it could serve as a kind of asylum to keep these faggots in
>>737366484WoL has been stacking brain damage for six expacs
>>737366610Goes for female/female too.Hell, apparently everyone in the Arcadion is just gay if "the community" is to be believed.Yaana, Honey B Lovely and Vamp Fatale togetherBrute Bomber and Howling Blade (despite Howling Blade canonically being with Eutrope)Chronically online people are weird.
>>737361548You can steal from mine. I should have had the 13th as a box, but I just consider that the leading candidate for shard hopping.>>737366417Recent interview and they talked about 'weapons' given to influencers to help them beat the bloat. If they limit it to just influencers it'll be a nightmare, but I expect the hyperspeed thing I mentioned. Something like be able to finish 1 expansion in an afternoon. Put in the effort (Uh oh that might be a challenge for SE) and it's easy to see how you can do it. You could prune away all the bloated travel and quests with DT and probably reduce it by 80%.>>737366610That and coomerism. There's no moral distance between someone wanting to doujinize a character like Yshtola and a fujoshi thinking any kind of same-sex-interaction is gay
>>737367370>There's no moral distance between someone wanting to doujinize a character like Yshtola and a fujoshi thinking any kind of same-sex-interaction is gayAgreed. I also saw an interesting theory once about why LotR gay fanfic is so popular with women. It was basically that most explicitly gay fiction is more coomer focused, and taking a well written non-gay male relationship and adding gay to it was a shortcut to better written gay smut. Don't know how much that applies anymore since there's plenty of gay content out there in <$CURRENT_YEAR> but the logic tracks.
>>737367370Yoshi shirt is the 2nd fanfest
>>737366236What’s funny is there was a massive DDoS wave on the day the original launch was gonna be.
>>737367370>There's no moral distance between someone wanting to doujinize a character like Yshtola and a fujoshi thinking any kind of same-sex-interaction is gayThe difference mainly is that people doujinizing characters don't tend to try and enforce their fetishes on others.
>>737367881That makes sense. >>737367962Yoshi shirt is 1st fanfest, job reveal is 2nd and 3rd. Shirt would also be worn 1st fanfest. Unless I am misremembering. >>737368201Fair point.
>>737368334>Yoshi shirt is 1st fanfest, job reveal is 2nd and 3rd. Shirt would also be worn 1st fanfest. Unless I am misremembering.wow yeah you're right just checked the DT fanfest.
>>737361548job "reworks" that play the samemateria system retired/reworkedexpansion of outfit system to include crafted setsyet another round of character creator adjustments- no free fantasia
>>737367978Okay Kirios Blackfire.
>>737369358>job "reworks" that play the sameif they remove most grp buffs and as such feel not everything has to be 2m, that's good enough for me
>Check the Jollibee x FFXIV meal>It's $40 for 1 pc chicken, a chicken sandwich, a pineapple quencher, a pie, fries and a sticker setthe fuck. this is why I fucking hate jollibee man. overpriced fucking meme niche chicken.
>>737369976that's crazy prices
>>737360721>Only counts lvl 71 and above, leaving out lower level players and many Free Trial players>Doesn't count China and Korea players
>>737370585>POV: you're a Tia
>>737360721A Switch 2 port will save this game.
>>737360983if chuds don't like vydias because transfolx then remove the transfolx
>>737366417This is probably why the game is getting almost no new players, as evidenced by the blue bars in >>737360721, which is showing new characters.That's the issue with the game being both a super linear narrative-driven experience while also being an MMO. Its hard to recommend this game to anyone when they need to slog through hundreds of hours of questing to play with you. An endgame player can sync down and play with them along the way sure, but We all know playing through Haukke Manor together isn't the same as Extreme trials or Savage prog.
>>737370585doesn't count OCE either
Some thoughts about the game:>1. Why do we still have fake login queues in Aether? It's actually so dumb and gay. Take it off already.>2. I hate the UI in this game, I constantly play on two different monitors and switch between M/KB + Controller and having to switch everything is such a fucking pain. Which there's a smart way of doing it but I don't think there is unless you dalamud experts know of a way...
>>737370797>they need to slog through hundreds of hours of questing to play with you.They don't, boever.You just need to be willing to do anything more than "le endgame" meme (4 raid bosses, a criterion, soon 1 ultimate) with them.
>>737370797no thats not "new players". Thats "new Players that have reached lvl 71 or above since the last census was taken
>>737370797>We all know playing through Haukke Manor together isn't the same as Extreme trials or Savage prog.I mean, there's a broad swath of stuff between Haukke Manor or Sastasha and M12S.I'm also confused because didn't we hate raidfags and their insistence that raidfaggotry is the only thing that matters?I always take my friends through at least all the alliance raids, normal raids and trials and they seem to like it. I like it, too. Never a bad excuse to do Ivalice again.
>>737370930The same thing applied at the end of Shadowbringers, when the blue bar actually made up a significant chunk of the total. Now the blue bar is just a blip. There could be hundreds of thousands, if not millions of free trial players working their way up, but there's little evidence that they exist in great numbers given how long the blue bar has been a blip and how little momentum this game currently has going for it. It seems to be bleeding out existing players much faster than its gaining new ones.
>>737371280>The same thing applied at the end of Shadowbringers,Early Shadowbringers LB included anyone lvl 35+. When the Free Trial expanded to include HW, it was changed to lvl 61+
>>737371136Raidfags are a fringe minority that think everything revolves around “dude difficulty is the most important thing in a game”
>>737371280Anecdotal, but I always feel like I see quite a few sprouts in my groups/around the world.>It seems to be bleeding out existing players much faster than its gaining new ones.People aren't a hivemind and they're not liable to all quit in droves forever. At some point, there's just groups of people who aren't likely to quit the game anytime soon until it does something really horrible.
Xivvers hated him because he told them the truth.
>>737360721XIV was never good. It just got a boost in attention during covid because WoW shit the bed and they paid Asmon to shill it.
Sheen this is the third time you've used that Luckybancho screenshot to prove the game is dying in this week alone.
>>737371570He is right. We got where we are because the dev team listened to complaints in the first place.That's not to say *I* wouldn't mind more "unique" jobs, but to act like this was just some random idea YoshiP and co. got out of nowhere, or that they decided upon because they could just be lazier that way without any input from the playerbase is revisionism.
who the fuck starts a MMO 10+ years after launch? like buddy you missed the boat
>>737371763>That's not to say *I* wouldn't mind more "unique" jobsThat's not to say *I* would mind more "unique" jobs*
>>737362748I actually...agree. Final Fantasy was not meant to have free jumping and it did help to kill the fantasy atmosphere of the game.
>>737371780but the boat was during 2021
>>737371450Gotta keep in mind Sprouts aren't even necessarily new players, just new characters. Most people never need more than one character but there certainly are valid reasons to make an alt, like for RP. Seeing one at level 67 is probably an actual new player, whereas seeing one at level 18 could go either way.
My Jollibee is filled with indians..... how does this make any sense? What the fuck canada?
>>737371780You can easily play through all the primary content (JRPG story quests grab a few relics/finish the field operations/normal and alliance raids) in about 3 months. t on third alt doing the exact same thing again.
>>737371570>>737371763You can find anybody asking for anything. Devs are responsible for the changes they make.
>>737360721There are multiple reasons for this, free login period before and not now.SE and FF14 attacking it's own player base.Shutting down two popular jap fansites both FF14blog and Umadori.Attacking people and blocking them on social media. You aren't the government, you are a business the reason that is pertinent is Yoshida previously said that FF14 should be run like a country and yet his country does not earn taxes, taxes are coerced payments from citizens to a central buercracy and people are punished if they don't pay.FF14 is a business and people are not coerced into paying their subscription, if they get annoyed and upset with the game they can and have stop their subscription hence the need to keep the player base happy you can't take them for granted which is something Yoshida has done for years.
>>737371763No one has pretended like the devs haven't been taking input from the players, it's just that they've been taking input from a tiny vocal minority known as savage raiders. By homogenizing jobs to remove friction from clearing savages they've made them less interesting for the vast majority of players.
>>737371780You could argue that a portion of the losses of active subs are owed to XIV not really being like that.With a lot of MMOs, people are a little more reluctant to quit for any amount of time because they know they're likely to miss out on stuff they can't do after the fact. With XIV, you can come back 2 years later and catch up and do most of the things people did back when it was current.
>>737361548>Raid now required for MSQThat shit was dumb when I did the free trial, you're saying there is more of it in the next three expansions!?
>>737372991Nah, there actually isn't.A lot of us feel there should be because 1. normal raids are cool sidecontent with stories as well, and 2. raids not being mandatory makes the developers less likely to give characters from raids any sort of chance to join the MSQ other than minor cameos at best.
>chicken emote redemption site is 404ingREALLYHOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS GOD DAMN STUPID FUCKING COMPANY CAN YOU DO ONE THING RIGHT
>>737372510>SE and FF14 attacking it's own player base.>Shutting down two popular jap fansites both FF14blog and Umadori.>Attacking people and blocking them on social media.I have never seen 4chan posters more eager to identify with schizophrenics on the internet than I have with SE legally shutting up a few of them over in the east.>schizo>schizo, japan
dead game
>>737373271some of them probably full on "my ancestor" japanese schizos
>>737360721Next expax is going to be either a sidestory or a retcon that lets people branch to it instead of the other expansions because what kind of new player is going to want to slog through 700+ hours of average content just to get to the current story especially when yoshipiss nukes the lower levels to be as boring as possible
>>737373387I think people are fully aware those guys got hit with legal silences because they're nuts but they need ammo against SE. There was one guy here regularly begging for a KyoAni arson fire to hit SE too, or that one guy begging for Soken's cancer to worsen
>>737373271They like to be vague with>Shutting down popular jap fansitesJapan has stricter protections when it comes to slander/defamation. The site admin should know this and actually moderated posts, but he didn't. I even looked at the comments on his "apology post" and nobody was really upset or claiming it was unwarranted (though auto-translate can go so far).
>>737373518Any good ammo is good ammo for brand war schizos.>There was one guy here regularly begging for a KyoAni arson fire to hit SE too, or that one guy begging for Soken's cancer to worsenA 40 dollar product not being to your liking certainly warrants that.
>>737373526I think my favorite out of that lineup was SE "attacking people and blocking them on social media", written in an alternate universe where @FF_XIV_EN doesn't still have zodiark trancers flaming every single post the official account makes and flaming anybody else that isn't flaming SE
>don't make XIV-2 after game reaches conclusion>it begins, reaches the middle point, and is near the final point of failure in 1 expansion's time because they overbudgeted I'll be frank with you king, if you roll up on some gamer in the street and pitch the idea of:>Yo bro, come play this game, it's an MMO with a subscription that focuses almost entirely on Story and Hardcore RaidingThey'll likely say no, and then ones that say yes have a 50-60% chance of being filtered by the early sections of the game because it's ancient and plays nothing like the rest of the game.You can't fix dated foundations by piling more shit on top of it and you can't be popular if you choose explicitly to be niche on purpose either. They can absolutely keep XIV going if they keep doing what they're doing but restrict the budget and leverage what they can and can't do, they could probably do it for another decade even, but never expect some huge ass population or anything like that because you're a niche product catering to a niche audience, and there's nothing wrong with that.SE really wants their cake and to eat it too with XIV.
>>737374186>They'll likely say no, and then ones that say yes have a 50-60% chance of being filtered by the early sections of the gamewe have 3/4ths a million players AFTER declinepull your head out of your ass
>>737361548Auto ComboRGB sliders for character edit and/or dyesNew job's weapon unfitting for its roleAnimation set unlockables
>>737373476>when yoshipiss nukes the lower levels to be as boring as possibleHot take apparently but lower levels aren't any more boring than they've ever been; Dragoon fucking sucked at low levels in HW too
>>737374763Other races' running/idle/walking/emote animations rigged for every other race as an unlockable or unlockables would kick ass actually
>playerscharacters
>>737362319I'm going to say it, you should be forced to clear out all the alliance raids before you can leave an expansion, retroactive too so skip niggers can't leave DT for 8.0 until they clear them all.There aren't enough of these things in existence to let people skip them and fuck up both the roulette and new players trying to run them.
>>737373526>>737373728If the past few years have taught me something, it's that XIV haters are more parasocial than XIV fanboys.
>>737373271NOOOO MY BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY AND MULTI-MILLIONAIRE JAPANESE BUSINESS EXECS! YOSHIDA-SAMA GET DOWN!
>>737375090>>737375074pottery
>>737374940not sure if that's happening but something about animations was mentioned
>>737374763Ability skins could be new rewards people would lose their minds over and would go a long way towards fixing the rewards issue this game has.
>>737374805Did the jobs not have a decent chunk more abilities pre-5.0 in ARR and HW?I'm hard pressed to believe tanks didn't have more shit to do in dungeons beyond hitting 1-2 mitigations and their 1 aoe button until like...45.
New expansion feature: Homogenization for races and Body types A and B
>>737375038If it were up to me, all raids, alliance raids and trial series would be mandatory.
>>737374940>>737374763Animation set unlockables will be Mogstation 100% if they do it
>>737375260Tanks still had the problem of not really coming together until later in their life, unless you were Warrior, who did eventually get hit with this stick after the Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting changes made it go from a somewhat squishy tank to invincible the moment RI is learned. Dark Knight was especially bad about this in Stormblood and still is now, really, the job doesn't come together until The Blackest Night at level 70 for a job that starts at 30.
>>737374763Hear me out, they put XIV combo into the game for everyone's standard 123s so they have more room to add new abilities to press but this function only becomes accessible at like...80? 90? And it's optional.
>>737375260The tranny just cherrypicked DRG because you'd spam one ability due to an oversight and not because it was actually designed to play that way.
>>737375074>>737375121If the past few years have taught me something, it's that XIV fanboys are more parasocial than XIV haters.
>>737373271>IT WAS LEGAL OKAY CHUD THE CORPORATION CAN DO WHAT IT WANTS
Would letting you keep your full kit when you sync down be a good thing? How would you balance so there's still incentive to run with lower leveled players?
I don't want to do reclears anymore, but I need the gear for ultimategearing in this game is so fucking assssssssssssssss
>>737375402>built-in XIVcombo, but the macro delay still applies for no good reasondo you rike it
>>737375409An "oversight" lasting nearly a decade, get real. DRG sucked at low levels since inception and it still sucks at low levels. PGL/MNK does not suck at low levels and again has always been like that. Tanks suck at low levels, healers suck at low levels (though it's fun being forced to hardcast because you have no other options). The only caster with options at low-lowish levels is RDM, the only melee with options at low-lowish levels is MNK, the only ranged with options is DNC.
>>737374805>>737375260The real issue is the passage of time and the format of 10 new levels that need to introduce new abilities while also avoiding jobs getting too bloated.Each level cap raise with its own abilities necessitates that something be taken away from the earlier levels.Which is probably why they've leaned much more into "using this existing ability turns it into another ability" like with the RDM buffs. Those abilities are followups and don't require extra space for a button because they follow from an existing button press.
>>737375260Cross class skills were phased out in stormblood The classes have been mindless and boring ever since then, each expansion and each level increase makes the levels before even more boring.
>>737375402I heard talk about some potentially fake leaks that auto combo would be added, but it wouldn't be anything like XIV Combo, and instead be an entire combat system overhaul and you'd have auto combo like in Guild Wars 2.
>>737375561It's also why I'm excited for the decision to not move past level 100, it's the first opportunity for jobs to get unfucked and even them out with a more concrete design ethos.
>>737375489>Would letting you keep your full kit when you sync down be a good thing?It wouldn't work because higher level healers and tanks have way, way more tools at their disposal.
>>737375580Forgot to mention tanks at one point actually had to manage MP
>>737375260Tanks used to have to manage aggro in dungeons. PLD's AoE was Flash, which did no damage, requiring them to juggle their single target combo between multiple targets. WAR couldn't spam Overpower because they'd run out of TP, so they had to know their limits and start juggling single targets if the pull took too long. DRK could go hog wild on trash pulls spamming Abyssal Drain with Blood Price.
>>737375620100% true. I care more for no new level cap for those reasons than just "100 pretty number"They could make job designs that actually last, not ones that will be picked down to the bones to make sure the new cap 5 expansions later isn't overly bloated.
>>737375596Definitely fake leaks, a full combat system overhaul doesn't seem to be in the cards (nor should it be really, they're doing plenty already and the actual core combat isn't a problem)
>>737375489It'd just be another big nerf and turn old content into even bigger clown shows.
>>737361548bravely 24man incoming since pandemonium was just a big reference to it
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>>737374805>>737375554Here's HW DRG. Shut the fuck up you dishonest rat.
>>737375489There's no way to do that without giving you an objective power increase over people just leveling normally, you have combo options and abilities that don't exist at that level and which the already ilvl-sync raped earlygame is not built forOnly way you could balance around that would be to also considerably weaken jobs so they're hitting about as hard as the people actually in the intended level range, which also obviously comes with its own problems
>the actual core combat isn't a problem
>>737375596>like GW2Oh fuck no, interrupting the auto combo for the "auto attack" in that game is miserable and tanks your DPS.It probably wouldn't be a problem for XIV with 2.5 GCDs if the game functioned the same but considering how fucky XIV is with queuing up abilities and how it basically doesn't work with macros it would probably be a disaster of it's own kind.
>>737375837We're uh talking low level gameplay and not endgame rotations anon.
>>737375837>big visual showcase of what flank and rear means rather than "target's side and target's back lol"sasuga ffxiv guidemakers
>>737375857Current savage fights are exciting so that means the other 90% of the game doesn't need to be fun.
>>737375715By full overhaul I mean decoupling your auto combo from your other abilities and deleting the regular auto attack. It really wouldn't be such a big change mechanically.Think of it more like making all jobs play closer to the way casters play, or even how classes in WoW play.I think it's plausible.
>>737375883>don't know the Namingway plugin exists yet>set Blizzard II, III, IV to one-skill macros to rename them Blizzara, Blizzaga, Blizzaja>introduces so much lag on use that they're not viable
>>737375837>When do I use these?>Never.Zozzle.
>>737375915Level 60 is currently low level gameplay and the complaint is that low levels feel like shit right now. They were not always shit. They were fucked up to open skill slots on the hotbar for new expansion skills. Which is the biggest reason the game is fucked if we go to 110.
>>737375915Impulse Drive until 26. then 123 till 50
what went wrong?
>>737375629>implying the current kits already aren't 10x better than they were on contentoh no how will we ever preserve the sanctity of sastasha if people keep access to their skills
>>737376027>Level 60 is currently low level gameplayThat was endgame when it was new anon we're not talking about that level range. You still have a vaguely complete GCD kit at level 50 even now and you don't at level 25-49.
>>737375945>delete auto attackRetarded
>>737376118MNKsissies?
>>737374763I'm holding off on guesses for new jobs since this is exclusively for the NA fanfest, and they never show off new jobs there
>>737376326Get ready for T-shirt theories
>>737376354i'm still smug about me calling pictomancer from the TMNT shirt
>>737376118Yeah, what? Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>737376354YoshiP getting on stage wearing picrel
>>737375848I think that's fine since it's still older content, the problem to address would be figuring out what kind of incentive you'd have to play with non-synced players. Like you get double tomes or something.
It's always such a weird feeling when a new expansion comes out and I start leveling jobs to cap again that I don't normally play.Couldn't tell you how to do MNK's opener at 100 now with all the doof ass Reply buttons but I could play the shit out of it at every level before.Same thing happened with BLM, I put it squarely in the neverever play box because it never felt good to play and then when we all did the meme EW alliance raid leveling in DT I found it's level 90 iteration quite good, and that was long before they gutted slow casts.
Frankly I think an ability redistribution would be a good start.Redesign jobs, then from there, decide when what jobs get when, and try to frontload the more important and job-defining parts as much as possible, and then add stuff like traits in the later level ranges.Then when people get scaled down, it's also not nearly as bothersome.
>>737376520i'm trying to think of what giant 'i win' buttons yoshi could press. what comes to mind:>instanced housing>more in depth character customization (butt sliders)>portable orchestrions, and the ability to attach a song to your adventurer plate>incentives to new game+>foray mechanics in the overworld>some game mode involving FF protagonists (do a deep dungeon with Cloud, Terra and Ramza)
>>737376885>Couldn't tell you how to do MNK's opener at 100 now with all the doof ass Reply buttons but I could play the shit out of it at every level before.I haven't watched any guides but I just open with the buffs, do a wind's reply first, then do the first perfect balance combo, then do the fire's reply, then the second perfect balance comboin between that, I weave brotherhood and forbidden chakrathat's just off intuition though. i don't main MNK so i don't try to do the "perfect rotation"
>>737376070This after WoW did what it does best and again shat the bed in every way possible
I have the urge to come back? Should I do it anons?
>>737377084>I just open with the buffsYou and every SMN in the fucking game please stop joining queueing into my groups.
>>737377173No bad time to
>>737377176I don't use alt jobs in serious content.
>>737376918He could do hats for Hrothgar and Viera and unlocked glam-- oh wait, he already broke that glass in case of emergency and nobody cared.
Is Jollibee even good?
>>737360721>Squeenix has one (1) game holding them together>game actually finally competing for top MMO spot for the first time ever>completely abandon it, increase patch cadence, let your best devs and writers retire and put the interns in charge of everythingwhat do you call this strategy?
>>737371570Is this that Wesker vid?Guy's got some wacko opinions, there is a very clear design trend you can see over time
>>737376885I hit that exact same snag when it came to the Reply abilities. It just throws everything off for me that I feel like I’m inserting it wrong. Never bothered doing Balance research cause I went casual this expansion and focused on clearing lots of misc achievements like Frontline mounts or 500x GC leves, mainly focused on finishing relics too (first year of DT)
>>737361548Pyrehail
>>737376520>top leftWhat the flying fuck happened with DRG in DT? I was fully expecting them to at least make the AoE combo go from level 62 down to 50 so the job isn't insufferable garbage in 50-60 content like dungeons.For god's sake Power Surge is hooked into it and you don't get that shit until early Stormblood meaning the majority of group content you're the worst member in AoE by miles.I don't even think they get an AoE button until their 40s in the first place too, double lance / goon in early dungeons is an absolute shit show.And give MNK Form Shift at 50 as well, plays like absolute shit without it
PYREHAILHAIL OF PYREOF OUR BURNING PYRES
>>737377591www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/TR/JP-2026-003123/40/enProssione Virtualization
>>737377510>WeskerI can't believe this dude is still fucking alive. He's still even replying to shit in Novice Network in Midgardsormr. I remember he pissed me off for saying some stupid shit. I forgot what it was though.
>>737377606I feel like jobs should have their 123s for both ST and AoE by like level 15 or 20.
>>737377591>>737377640>forspoken before we knew what it was
>>737372003They can't eat cows, and pork is not super common as a fast food compared to chicken or beef.>>737372510Dropping 163,000 is pretty wild to me since prior to February's I remember seeing their hemmoraging stabilizing. Look closer though - nearly a 100k drop in NA eclipses Japan's decline.>>737373476I stick with hyperspeed option to progress through MSQ. Given SE does half-ass shit it'll probably be incremental. Release starts off with hyperspeed to prog through ARR, then the patches each bring a hyperspeed for one of the expansions. Which defeats the purpose, they really just need to offer 8.0 as a new start and have a free MSQ skip "Previously, on Final Fantasy XIV". Maybe tie it into a mechanic where if you are invited by a friend then you can skip to the current expac.>>737373518The thing is the internet did not get more mean all of a sudden. It's always been that mean. It's just that Square released an awful product and people are bombastically mad and they are in such a poor reception that now they can't just shrug off mean people on the internet when mean people directly impact their bottom line by word of mouth.>>737376070WoW can shit the bed in story and still have a sandbox-y experience to let you make your own fun. Their approach to housing is an incentive for you to come play rather than an incentive to stay subscribed.
>>737376918a proper collecting catalog system for glamour
>>737377176>people not blasting their party buffs on 3rdish GCDSTOP DIVVING THE MOMENT WE ENTER COMBAT, IT'S THE ONLY GOOD SHIT YOU HAVE AST SO AT LEAST USE IT RIGHT!
>>737377307I think Yoshida's broader sense of break-in-emergency and the players' differs
>>737377252If you play serious content you know where buffs go already.
>>737377831I'm sorry to hear that.
Possible locations:>Corvos>Aerslaent>Blindfrost>Meracydia>some random shardWhich one do you want, /v/?(please respond in greentext in the form of a rhyme, poem or song lyric in order to be valid)
>the DNC drifts Tech Step
Can't wait for YoshiP to irrevocably doom XIV by turning it into a soulless rush to endgame lobby simulator like many other contemporary MMOs to placate tards who pretend like they can't play with friends unless those friends can join them for last tier Dawntrail savages exclusively.
>>737377934PYREWOLVES SAILPYREWOLVES TRAILPYREWOLVES HOWL AS THEY TELL THEIR TALEWOLVES ON THE HUNT THROUGH THE PYREHAILPROWLING BLINDFROST WITH AZEM'S GRAIL
Oh shit got the codes already. I did the Complex order online, got two different shirts.
And Dawntrail had even more voiced cutscenes than Endwalker. So one thing we know for sure about 8.00 is that it will have 20+ hours of voiced cutscenes.
>>737378064These prices sheesh
>>737378051Love it, but we reject you because it wasn't a greentext.
>>737378129More voiced cutscenes is good.It's about the ratio.If there's 2x more voiced cutscenes but also 2x more cutscenes overall, then it sux.If there's 2x more voiced cutscenes but the overall cutscene quantity is the same, then that's an improvement.
>>737378174Apparently the shirt is same price as the meal, and I don't eat goyslop so this works.
>>737378129I honestly think they'll downscale the initial MSQ at expansion launch, and have more MSQ updates throughout the lifecycle instead of five. That way they can spread it out more, because they're not beholden to the "must be 10 levels worth of story at launch"
>>737378129voice acting was a mistake
>>737378129No wonder Endwalker was delayed twice, it's ARR+HW+SB amounts of voice acting
>>737377463Product lifecycles only care about returns relative to money spent, you need to let that sink in.
>>737378290Furiously pretending ~770k is MMO death is the funniest shit I could hope for on 4chan.
>>737378349my mmo is dead (2nd or 3rd most played mmo)
>>737378290>Doesn't understand patch lullslol you could have posted this with every late patch
>>737378349>>737378395Cope so raw it could be from the battlenet forums (and probably is).
>>737378290Dawntrail has a higher playerbase than 1.0, ARR, HW and Stormblood though. It was at times also doing better than Shadowbringers. So there really is no problem.
>>737378349>>737378395>>737378442Cope however you want, you're not changing the minds of 60 year old nip businessmen. They know the subs will never get that high ever again, because they're not zoomertrannys who have en emotional attachment to their first MMO.>Will putting more money into this project increase the returns it brings? Yes or no?>If no, start pulling money out of it (but slowly)
>game grows to double its size cause another game fucks up>game loses half its players cause other game no longer fucking upi dont get it are we am dying i
>>737378442LINE MUST GO UP.But really, a lot of people don't realize that they've kept operating costs basically the same since ARR/HW, even better as they built their team.
>>737378494Yoshida is informally a company director
>>737378510You're not running a business, you're a coping tranny. Read: >>737378494
>>737378510People like to pretend the huge uptick in numbers wasn't an anomaly due to the perfect storm of circumstances
>>737378494>If no, start pulling money out of it (but slowly)Wasn't the argument that they weren't putting any money into XIV in the first place?I see that bandied around a lot. "XIV sux bcuz square no invest and milk gaem" but now the game is at risk of the suits not investing in it anymore.
Guys, you gotta be more positive like this guy that DM'd me a couple months ago. Apparently he's known here according to a fellow anon.
>>737378494Dawntrail is purely on number the game's second best expansion (in terms of players). Why would it be "dying"?
>>737378623FREDDY XIV
>>737378574I just like how people pretend they don't know maths when it suits them.
>actually they were planning on not making as much money anymore it's 4d chessYou kids are funny.
>>737378645Because putting more money into it than they are now will NOT bring more subscribers, and they know that, they aren't retarded. This isn't complicated.
>>737378586The tl;dr of it is people arguing about XIV's finances have no clue at all and have no possible way of getting a clue so everybody has to assyme Luckybancho is some direct reflection of game profit or go off of FF16 costing so little to produce it was more profitable than FF7 Rebirth
How would (You) fix premades in Frontline?
GUYS THE GAME IS DOING WORSE THAN DURING COVID WHEN EVERYBODY WAS IMPRISONED AT HOME, BUT STILL BETTER THAN ANY PREVIOUS EXPANSION, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DOOOOO?
>>737378556>You're not running a business,and neither are you :^)
>>737378704The board of directors and the investors knew the Covid Bubble (also known as the Floyd Flux) was just temporary and they're fine with steadily declining profits okay? Obviously they'll keep pumping money because they believe in the XIV movement (yes this is a movement).
>>737378756They will put in the same amount as always.
>>737378773I dunno I'm pretty scared I feel like they're going to shut down the third most popular MMO in the genre.
>>737378831Yes, which is why it's functionally a decrease (currency inflation, technical debt, more aspects for the same amount of content like voice acting, armor for races that weren't always there, etc.)
>>737378795But they weren't putting any money into XIV, were they? I thought they were putting no money into XIV and only taking out of it to fund their DOA mobile slop and Forspoken.....Sisters why can't we keep our narratives straight.
>>737378760can't queue as party anymore, solo queue only
>>737378923Correct, they use all the money you spend on Fantasias in XIV to fund Forspoken, XVI, Rebirth, Kingdom Hearts 4 etc
>>737378760You'll have to teach people to stop falling for the one singular thing Dark Knight can do (suck people in so the rest of the grp can use their zergtard abilities)
>Ok So The Game Is Really Dying (And Here's Why That's A Good Thing!)Here's another random graph for you since you seem to like them so much.
>Will putting more money into XIV increase profitability?>Yes, if the game is young enough to be in a growth phase.>No, if the game is aging and the subscriber peak has already been reach.Only one of these is true, and it's how a budget is decided on. I don't know why this is such a complicated concept for zoomertrannys.
>>737379006I remember when I got a bronze medal for my skill at a sport.I necked myself that night because I knew I was slowly dying anyway.
>Doesn't understand revenue vs profitability>acts like a financial expert
>sales numbers>steam charts>luckybanchoI just wanna drink my tea and play Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail: Online Deluxe Edition!
>>737371280Sometime during EW they made player's Lodestone pages private by default. This census is based off of scraping those and new players are unlikely to be pointed to making the page public.
>>737379006
>>737379047>only one of these is trueWhat? Both of those things you listed are true.
>>737370879You have 4 HUD layout save slots native to the game.
>the worst and deadest expansion is where my character actually got to do something in a cutscene rather than pick their nosemore dead expansions pls
>>737379058I accept your concession. Your emotional attachment to the game gives you a delusional (and quite cringe) outlook on the game.>>737379152Cope, tranny, you have to pick one. The subs are growing and shrinking, there isn't a third direction.
>>737379214Just fyi nobody can take a guy who spams buzzwords without an argument seriously.You sound really upset and emotionally unstable.
Final Fantasy XIV: Pyrehail - March 2027>Viking>Berserker>Aerslaent>Verticality is a big feature in all PH zonesdon't (You) me, just screenshot and move on
>>737378623What the hell did you do to make him so upset?
>>737379269>can't address the argument because he's so completely BTFO by itconcession once again accepted.
>>737379069
>>737360721>1.23>a good end for a good game with horrible technical issues in a unfinished state>ARR 2.0>comfy as fuck>small areas>with vistas outside of the borders>feels like being part of a much bigger world>story is grounded (for a japanese RPGs)>end is bullshit but whatever>2.X>3 dungeons>always new and exciting content>Coil is a real raid>story is believable and just part of a bigger world>first xpac>less content>ugly huge overworld maps>each xpac has less content in the update cycle>raids got smaller with each xpac>8 man raids are just boss arenas with cutscenes between themXIV peaked with ARR. No matter what everyone is saying. It was a great foundation to make a great mmorpg. Now we have low effort content and a horrible written story. And this shit started with Heavensward. And yes, Shadowbringers was shit too.
>And for the next phase of our plan we are going to take our company's biggest money maker and simply have it make less money. We call it "sunsetting". Trust me I have an associates degree in business I know what I'm talking about.
>>737379432If you put more money into something giving less returns then it makes less money. What's confusing about that?
>>737379432>Will putting more money into XIV increase profitability?>Yes, if the game is young enough to be in a growth phase.>No, if the game is aging and the subscriber peak has already been reached.Answer the question retard.
>>737377720>Dropping 163,000 is pretty wild to me since prior to February's I remember seeing their hemmoraging stabilizing. Look closer though - nearly a 100k drop in NA eclipses Japan's decline.Yeah it's an enormous decline that's something more than just the free login period in the previous month and now it's not to account for that.Maybe people just lost faith in the game.
>>737378349770k CHARACTERS, not accounts. The stalker plugin confirmed that the vast majority of accounts have multiple alts. So turn that down to 250k accounts(being very very very generous).
Just put more troon, it'll save the game
>>737377954>Tech Step 40 seconds into the fight
so what the fuck was Westwolves???
>>737360721Yoshida is a very Todd-like figure in which their strengths are both refinement for the sake of mass audience appeal.The issue with refinement is that you can only take it so far before even the mainstream has no appeal for it anymore.
>>737378760>PLD's guard removes the cover buff or PLD's guard doesn't reduce cover damage redirection
>>737379583Diversionary tactic, I think people buy patents for these titles to hide potential future titles
>>737377954>Tech Step 39 seconds into the fight
>>737379520Did FFXIV profits drop 50%? Answer the question retard.
>>737379321I posted the Spongebob rollercoaster gif saying that's what modern FF14 writing is like now. Though I still enjoy it.And I think it got lost in translation, because he translated it from English to Spanish.
>>737379681Yeah, they used Forspoken to distract us from Endwalker. Then it turned out Forspoken was a different game altogether. I think Westwolves was a complete red-herring just registered for shits and giggles so we'd not find Dawntrail while giving us a little clue that we're heading west.
>>737379751An actual profit number doesn't even come into play you fucking retard, as long as it's above 0 it's going to stay "alive" the same way XI is "alive now.
>>737379781Westwolves was also a fake thing, the actual trademark wasn't linked anywhere, it was only posted here as "it's totally real".
>>737379337I wasn't arguing with you.I know better.
>>737379432According to the same people, Square already isn't putting any money in it as is and are milking it dry and have been for years, so it's not like it could actually get worse.
>>737379857I don't think so. I vaguely remember more concrete evidence no? It was definitely also discussed on the official forums
>the same way XI is "alive" nowYeah if your standards for being "alive" are being able to login to an empty limsa and slurp your bi-yearly piss droplet of content put together by a single intern the game will never die. FFXIV will live 4ever!!1!
>>737379732>Tech Step
>Forspoken>Westwolves>Pyrehaila whole trilogy of "leaked" expansions
pyrehail is ash
>>737379196huh how
FREDDY FREDDYXIVVIE ZIVVIE ZEEB ON THE XIVEEEZOOS
>Tech
>>737380056It was discussed cause someone did a vaguepost topic and didn't provide any citation.https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/486592-Westwolves-is-like-the-worst-name-of-an-expansion
>>737380286That's a male lalaWhat a devious trick
want to meet a real life lala? E11N on crystal
>closest Jollibees is 4 hours away
>>737361548>no new jobs to focus more on giving existing jobs "job identity" or more complexity>jobs actually get even more simplified and boring
>>737380570That would require a trip to Crystal, which I shan't be doing
>>737380653pvp movesets are full of flavor but are only 6-8 buttons
>>737379420The only bad thing I'll ever say about ARR was the 2.0 MSQ. 2.X was good, and I'm still miffed they cut a bunch of quests for shadowzoomers.
>>737380695>limsa erpers complained about story mode content being too difficult in dawntrail that they make everything even more retard proof on top of making jobs more simpleONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>737380695>cc ability>spam combo button>limit break>personal mitso much character xister
>>737378760PvP is a minigame who gives a fuck
>>737380653I don't see that first one happening. New jobs are basically a mandatory box feature for an expansion. There'd be riots if they stopped doing that.>>737380695I don't disagree, but1. They are a little too simple.2. In the case of the ones I've played, they still kinda lure you into a rigid rotation.
>>737380914its far too simple to be engaging in pve. unless you cut mob hp to 1/4 and make all damage telegraphs. which would effectively change the game's genre
>>737380269WE DEFENDING THE EX EYE ON /v/EEE
>>737362748
>>737380235I'm not at a computer with FFXIV atm, but I'm pretty sure it's in the floating menu that appears when you go to edit HUD mode. Google's AI search response for FFXIV HUD presets seems to agree with what I remember
>>737381012In case of DRG I'd just use Elusive Jump to prepare Wyrmwind Thrust, use Geirskogul to go into Nastrond, dump Wyrmwind Thrust, dump Starcross, Horrid Roar and Nastrond to leave that mode (it buffs your damage but also makes you take more damage) before they zerg me down.In PvE you'd likely just stay in Nastrond for as long as you can so you do as much damage as you can - not the same risk of getting focus targeted and nuked down.
>>737381082>>737362748He was right, by the way.
>>737381298but you're launching magic dragons and jumping everywhere. isn't that cool?it would get old fast
I like to joke, but if they simplify the jobs any further it will actually kill the game. This is non-negotiable.
Why are some fags so insistent about not doing the Arcane Revelation cheese on Doomtrain?
>>737381620I don't hate it.But I'm also playing it as a minigame, not engaging with it every time I log in.I get why people like it, but PvE needs a little more. That same kind of combat in PvP would get old fast indeed.
>>737381681Nah it would probably retain players more because the FFXIV meta player (the yoship cultists) wants all the jobs to play exactly the same and he listens to them
>>737381719Why are some fags so insistent about doing the Arcane Revelation cheese on Doomtrain?
>Job EmotesPLD makes you pray and causes a beam of light to shine on you.WAR gives you the Inner Release aura and makes you roar.DRK turns you into Fray temporarily.GNB is the Draw animation and you can cast it on other players, has the FF8 sound effect.WHM is Yuna's sending dance with butterflies instead of pyreflies.SCH makes Lily twirl and dance around you or the target player.AST does a random tarot spread.SGE draws a magic circle and has one of the nouliths trace a random pattern in the circle kinda like those old screensavers that bounced around your screen.MNK is Anatman.DRG plants the spear in the ground and has you do the Kain pose on top with the Life of the Dragon aura around you.NIN is a smoke bomb that makes you invisible for a few seconds.SAM makes you do that one dramatic Japanese theater pose where they outstretch their arm and has a *donk, donk, donkdonkdonkdonk YOOOOOOOOO* sound effect.RPR conjures your ghost buddy to float around you and you do an edgy laugh before the ghost bursts into a cloud of bats.VPR has no identity so I'm stumped.BRD pulls out the harp and plays a few notes of a random song on the OST.DNC dances.MCH throws a hologram projector on the ground, shows goblins dancing, loporrits dancing, some random assortment of stuff.BLM becomes clouded in darkness and gets the Vivi face, then burns it all away.SMN summons chocobo chick that lands on someone's head, sometimes randomly a tiny Bahamut.RDM gets a rose-filled bishoujo aura.BLU randomly spits a fish, flicks someone with a toad tongue, or spits water at someone. If used with no target the BLU blows up.PCT paints a picture of someone, basically just takes a screenshot and puts a paint filter on the target.
>>737381082He was right.
>Nah it would probably retain players more because the FFXIV meta player (the yoship cultists) wants all the jobs to play exactly the same and he listens to them
>>737381793Because it costs nothing to do and it's a failure proof way of handling a mechanic that PF typically can't handle.
>>737379306Will it be just the north vikangz land or more.
>>737381804
>>737378623I do feel like the dawntrail apologists are getting more spicy and irritable of late for some reason.
>>737382096are the dawntrail apologists in the thread with us?
>>737382096man said "dawntrail apologists" like it's some sort of war crime huehuehue
>>737382227As a matter of fact, they are.
>>737382268didn't you know Dawntrail committed the crime of being the second most successful expansion of the game? that basically makes it the worst
>>737382339>success is when the expansion makes 50% of the playerbase leavelol
>success is when line goes down
>>737382336is it because they don't spend as much effort dooming the game as you do? autism is a harsh purity spiral
>>737382268Tickles me that its deep grievous sins are "I didn't like MSQ" and OC first zone being a dud
>>737382096
>>737382401They spend twice as much effort defending it. Literally every day of their lives, they wake up and come here to start fighting people who say something bad about Wuk or Dawntrail.
From now on, I'll use>TW: D*wntr*il To make sure the detractors aren't triggered and emotionally destroyed by the namedrop.I like to be considerate.
>>737382376>50%94% of all percentages are made up on the spot. Including this one. You're delusional. DT has a higher active playerbase than 1.0, ARR, HW and SB and it's pretty even with Shadowbringers.
>>737382227Right here >>737382339>>737382401>>737382437>>737382490
>>737382478i see. and what is 'defending' dawntrail? is it nuanced discussion, is it contrarian shitposting, or is someone just disagreeing with you to get your goat?
>>737382478>start fighting people who say something bad about Wuk or Dawntrail.Reality: the only fighting starts when someone says anything isn't bad about Dawntrail.
>non stop janny seethingbased
>>737382539You just quoted the same person 4 times
>>737382553It's when someone posts the chart showing Wuk's word count and you start screeching about folder dumpy and /pol/.
I hear "they" are in the room with us.
i haven't been unsubbed to FFXIV for this long since heavensward (i haven't subbed since the first month of dawntrail).
Bring back dark arts or i riot.
>>737382376is there something particular you want to mention about this 50%?
>>737382585I like watching the blizzjeet shills seethe personally.
>>737382553pointing out lies and misrepresentations is obviously being a defender an SE/CS3 bootlicker
>>737382646>he missed chaotic kinoSad!
are the vagueman apologists in the thread with us?
>>737382730they are daring to say a positive thing about dawntrailsomeone needs to stop them
have they made any new changes to black mage since giving us back ice paradox?
i don't think raiders or casuals would survive another expansion of finishers and potency buffs
>>737382694Which lies, again?
>>737382824tbf those are the only alternative to further raping the early job gameplay at this point in time if they continue with the "raise cap by 10 levels" formula
HAHAHAHA
>>737382902That's tough.
>>737382864>When you hype up doing something different after reaching level cap 100, but you decide it's easier to stick to the same thing you've done since 2015.
>>737382902This is literally me.
>>737382983Personally I'd much rather 100 becomes the perm cap somehow (while still allowing players ways to get stronger) but he only mentioned it as something they were discussing.Until we see something more than that, I'm not counting on anything.
>>737382902based
>>737382902>futa cat is a manWow could've never seen it coming
>>737382804they got rid of umbral ice/astral fire timers, reduced the cast time of flare, blizzard/fire IV, and flare star, and also removed the timers on thunderhead and firestarter.
>>737360721Trannies did this. Before I played FF14, I had a very neutral opinion on transexuals. I thought they were mostly normal people and social media was cherrypicking the crazies to go viral. But FF14 changed my mind. Every raid group I joined, there was at least 1 tranny in the raid. And it was impossible to avoid drama. Every conversation had to be focused on them, their transitioning, their pronouns, everything. We couldn't focus on the goddamn raid boss because someone is talking about getting their tits chopped off. And then eventually someone gets tired of it, and starts flaming the tranny. Then the whole raid group falls apart, and the cycle repeats. I want to make one thing very clear: not once in 3 expansions did I ever find a static raid group that didn't have at least 1 tranny in it. It's literally an unavoidable problem. The only solution is to unsub.
>>737382902If you see a modbeast and think its even moderately attractive its 100% being played by a dude. Legit female modbeasts are all fucking hideous looking.
>>737382902KEK it's literally the meme.
>>737379092Not quite, they just made public lodestone data opt-out instead of opt-in.Here's Asmongold's character. Its easily viewable for anyone to see. I doubt he logged in to a game he hasn't played in years just to opt back in to make his shit viewable.https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/37147702/My own character is viewable as well even though I never touched my lodestone settings, and yours probably is as well, even without being logged in.Unquestionably being able to opt-out of having a public lodestone did sink the numbers somewhat, but having stalkers you need to keep your info hidden for is a relatively niche situation and is unlikely to have had a dramatic impact on numbers.
>>737360721luckybancho chud will receive a cease and desist soon from SEhis slander will no longer be tolerated
>>737382707This is gay. You are gay.
>>737383057Sometimes I feel like I'm the only extreme gooner from this game that has a normal BMI and actually cares about hygiene and health.
>>737382902>based armor fetishist dude I was following turned out to be a QT asian girl>hotass milf elezen turned out to be gigachadnothing makes sense anymore, my worldview has been shattered
>>737383116I can't see his acheivements.
>>737383170why not just get a real gf then
>defenders of dawntrail valiantly defending the game from doomers>2026, colorized
>>737382902I'd be more shocked if it was actually a hot woman IRL.At least this is just a gooning fat dude and not a trooned out headcase (yet).
>>737383119YES!!!! I'm sick of that fucking wowchud spreading his misinformation everywhere...
>>737383119god willing
Putting $1000 on retconStory is already a messAll because yoship didn't dialate the time
>>737383116Holy fucking retard, you need to opt in to achievements, it’s always been this way hence no one ever giving a shit until fucktarded wow refugees in 2019
>>737383267Personally don't really care about 'doomers'.I've not posted here for like 5-6 months or so (maybe more) and just recently returned due to the live letter thread, and I assume it's been just more of this nonstop - maybe even worse because Dawntrail was in a worse state right after I left than it is now. What did it actually change for me? Nothing. The game didn't die. I didn't have any less fun because of it. It's just noise.
>>737382902Fellas, why did he think anyone wanted to see this?I mean he looks like a standard fat office worker, but why did he attach his face to his futa cat girl account?>>737383268I doubt he'd troon out at that age I hopeGuy's clearly just goonin it up
>>737383373I've never opted out or opted in, and I can still see my last achievements even while not logged in.
>>737383420if i had to guess its because he's going to fanfest and doesn't want any surprises
>>737383336world ending calamity appears out of nowherethe only escape is to time travel to just before dawntrailwe can't ever set foot on tuliyolal or we'll trigger the calamity againthey try to make it feel tragic that we'll never be able to meet wuk lamat again
>>737383420>I doubt he'd troon out at that age I hopeYou have no idea. I've seen some real creaturas.>>737383481I've never opted in or out, and my achievements are hidden.
>>737383481hi Hilda
>>737383420>Fellas, why did he think anyone wanted to see this?"Do they really love me for me... or do they love me because I take futa catgirl gpose pictures..."Not sure how those delusions and that sort of mania settle into the average internet wannabe eceleb's soggy brains, but it seems fairly common.
>>737383512Sure, why notNeed the retcon because we're supposed to be fighting sharks, not jumping over them.
>>737360721This is like the 3rd or 4th consecutive identical thread using this same image. You really can tell when things are happening in XIV, either fanfest or a big patch or big patch news. The mods and jannies don't even try to hide their hate obsession during these timeframes.
PSA! IF YOU SUBSTITUTE YOUR ITEM FOR THE BOX MEAL, YOUR CODE IS INVALID.ANOTHER FAIL FROM SQUARE ENIX. CAN THIS COMPANY DO ANYTHING RIGHT?
>>737383702probably pretext for insta-purging legit FanFest threads in a few days too.>you made so many spam threads the past few days so "we" decided you can't make a thread for a while
imagine if DT had been goodhow different things would've been going into this fanfest
I want to be able to play Dark Knight in duty roulette and not feel like an asshole for taking things slow in ARR dungeons because I have little to none of my mits or healing available to me
>>737383826Don't play tank if you're just going to be a pussy.
>>737383751>ordered shirt from complex>entered name and confirmation number from receipt>got code a few minutes later>didn’t eat goyslop fast food>if shirt isn’t 100% cotton I donate and use it as a writeoff
>>737383826>plays dark knight>is a whiny emo bitchpottery
How good does the next expansion story have to be to bring back and keep all the players the game lost?
>>737383774Yeah, the mods will probably make people use this shitpost thread curated by themselves and the jannies so that they can be sure to know everything that is being revealed at fanfest so they can brainstorm shitpost narratives together. I really don't understand why XIV is like the only game where the people who hate it are more obsessed with it than the people who actually play it. I've never seen anything quite like this in my entire life, but it's weird because the mods and jannies are in on this too. If WoW were a better game and wasn't full of more gay and trans shit than even XIV has, they wouldn't have time to obsess this much about XIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLp8SISp4nM
Is there any reason to be a twink in this game?>>737383826>he doesn't use pots or low foodLiterally git gud, fagola
>>7373839513.0 or better. its not a hard bar to clear
>>737360721Here you go spammer-kun, colorcoded and sorted the google doc (by current top: descending) for you.
>>737383980What did the janny mean by this?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737117346/#q737126847
>>737384138Probably the same thing he meant by this.
>>737383951Heavensward tier. 3.0-3.5 tierPersonally>remove fashion accs>revamped battle system>limited jobs becoming normal jobs>restriction lock on glams or whatever it was>pvp season passes can be completed whenever>kate and senna's head on a golden platter
>>737383951Just continue how it's been in 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 and probably 7.5.Just minus the Dawntrail baggage.
>>737362347Unequivocally was more ambitious, it just needed both at bare minimum 12 more months of dev time before launch, frankly probably a full two fucking years to truly be ready, and they needed someone to get Tanaka in a chokehold because some of those ideas were truly shit among the good ones.
>>737362347I mean, XI is a better designed MMO than XIV 1.0 or current XIV, but XI is a barely playable mess of a game while XIV is extremely playable. There's gotta be a balance.
>>737383980>spend your free time outside of jannying a dying shithole for free by organizing hate posts on discord with other jannies to own the zivviesprimo rope material right there i'd just end it if it came to a life like that
>>737383751Will jew enix ever stop raping?
>>737383980>I really don't understand why XIV is like the only game where the people who hate it are more obsessed with it than the people who actually play it.Unfortunately, everything about XIV seems to be parasocial, even down to its haters.
>>737384379>XI is a barely playable mess of a gameFor people who hate RPGs, I guess.
>>737383951If it's another mostly elseworld shard story like Shadowbringers I'll be there simply because they usually feel more free to get weird with it if it's not the source world. Which is one of the problems with the game but after a decade of safe choices we're kind of locked into a design for Eorzea and the planet.
>>737384473Nah man, I'm just telling you the truth. If XI were more like XIM, it'd be playable. Even heavily modded XI is barely playable.
>>737383980>I really don't understand why XIV is like the only game where the people who hate it are more obsessed with it than the people who actually play it.Last time you posted this I asked you for your /playtime and several hours of seething followed after.
>>737383751>$21 for the mealWhat the fuck?
>>737384034>my world is fucking dyingAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737384524What's not playable about FFXI? Are WoWniggers still confused about navigating menus with a controller as is done in every single console JRPG ever made?
>>737384579Thats any meal at any fast food place these days.
>>737384535>Last time you posted this I asked you for your /playtime and several hours of seething followed after.No, last time I was in one of these threads and someone was melting down about playtime, I and multiple other people posted out playtimes and it got ignored because it didn't fit the narrative of the person who was melting down.
>>737384034>balmung overflow is bigger than balmung nowlove to see it
>>737383858Filipino food is the furthest thing from goyslop.
>>737384595>What's not playable about FFXI? Are WoWniggers still confused about navigating menus with a controller as is done in every single console JRPG ever made?I'm not a WoWfag, and I've been playing RPGs since the NES. XI is just a horribly outdated game that was outdated even back when it launched, and it need a remake. XIM makes it playable. It's not possible to make XI feel like XIM no matter how many mods you have. You can get used to the jank but that doesn't make it a more playable game.
>>737384730omg tru it's so ethnic and diverse!
>>737384750You still haven't described what makes it "unplayable" aside from implying that it doesn't play like WoW where you mash a hotbar and dodge AoEs on the floor.
>>737384750the only thing you need is a bullet to your low IQ subhuman nigger head
>>737384595Not him but I will say one big reason I don't go back to XI is I really cannot be bothered to do pages of macros again. It's fine as an option, but there really needs to be a less boomer way to navigate your spell list and abilities because the input lag is enervating for Current Year. I think XI needs a remake more than any other numbered Final Fantasy because there's so much good under the hood, but it is the most early 2000s MMO to ever exist. That has plenty of charm and plenty of bad.
You guys really think they are going to make a better expansion?Here's my suspicion. They are going to double down on the wokeness. >the expansion failed because we weren't twitter/ reddit enough
>>737384649They're pulling a stormblood by just leaving Balmung on lockdown for 3 years until people give up and transfer to Mateus to get away from Aether/Primal/Dynamis shitting up ul'dah shout chat.
>>737383116>>737383481>>737383563They changed the default, they didn't change anyone's existing settings. How can you be this retarded?
>>737384851>>737384937Everything about it is borderline unplayable, anon. It's a fundamental, integral issue with XI. It's a problem from the ground up. It needs to play like XIM in order to be fixed. It desperately needs a remake, but it will probably never get one. I wish that one remake that was in the works never got canceled. The most annoying thing though is that even after you force yourself to get used to all the jank and lie to yourself and say that it's not a borderline unplayable game, you still have the sheath/unsheath retardation and the horrible targeting issues.
>>737384939>but there really needs to be a less boomer way to navigate your spell list and abilitiesI don't even use macros for spells other than buffs I have to use frequently. I can navigate my magic list in half a second.
>>737384750what I love is that when one MMO is jank it sucksbut when XI is jank and hostile it's based and sovl and haha sissy just learn to love consulting guides 24/7 like a real chad
>>737385016>Everything about it is borderline unplayable,You keep saying this and have yet to even attempt describing what you mean. WHAT is unplayable about it? Use your big boy words, lil zoomie.>It needs to play like XIM in order to be fixed.In other words, it needs to play like WoW where you mash hotbars and dodge AoEs.
>>737385056"Jank" is a meaningless word from normalfags and zoomoids who get mad when a game doesn't play itself. Any time someone uses jank in reference to XI or XIV they're talking about class intricacies that you have to learn to play around.
>>737385068ntaThe UI and menuing sucksAnyone new will immediately be turned off by it
>>737385189It's identical to any console JRPG.
>>737385138>"Jank" is a meaningless word from normalfags and zoomoids who get mad when a game doesn't play itself.Unless it's an MMO that isn't culturally and socially grandfathered like XI, in which case any form of jank means the game is slop by lazy incompetent devs and deserves to die.
>>737385138Jank used to have meaning, but like all slang it gets coopted by retards and smoothed to meaninglessness. FFXI does have some real jank too, but it's all technical. Blinking like a fucking Christmas tree when you equipment swap to WS gear is jank, but I would say of the charming variety. The constant input lag is bad jank.
>>737385264I don't know what strawman you're fighting, but no.
>>737385230no its worse>New player>Chooses character from slim options>load in game>Character looks very different from the CG representations>1st thing you are told to do is go exchange your adventurer coupon>have to select the person>have to open your menu>Go to Trade>select empty slot>Find the coupon and select it>Press to confirm the tradeTedium. New players will not like thisI know because i had multiple friends try the game when I asked and they all thought it was annoying to have to do that
it sucks but it's an old game i've deified in my brain so it's charming now and if you don't like it you need to be executed for being a low iq adhd zoomer
>>737385315Bad jank in XI is when you're trying to attack a moving enemy and you have to run slightly ahead of it. But when people complain about XI being "oooooh so janky clunk oooh it's clunky" they mean that they have to navigate a menu to click on what magic they want to use.
>>737384620I wouldn't know that since all I eat is Jack in the Box, Wendy's and Dominos.
>>737385646I eat Wendy's once a week and my total is always $24.48
>>737379092Wait wait wait wait waitSo in addition to LuckyBancho not making any mention of the fact that their largest dropoff occurred immediately after SE introduced the ability to private Lodestones, SE also made the Lodestone of new characters private by default, and there's no mention of this either? Seems somewhat nefarious.
>>737385529^ This, but unironically because I'm not a retarded zoomer
>>737384620$15 for a combo is average. $20+ is either some jewish place like 5 Guys or you're paying for doordash.
>>737385529But that's the correct opinion.
>>737385778I believe those two events (being able to private and it defaulting private) happened at the same time or shortly after. I blame the insane stalkers this game attracts more than some conspiracy.
>>737385068>You keep saying this and have yet to even attempt describing what you mean. WHAT is unplayable about it? Use your big boy words, lil zoomie.I'm in my 30s. I played PSO on Dreamcast. I'm not a zoomer. I'm knowledgeable enough to know that XI was already outdated by the time it launched, because PSO is not jank and is entirely and intuitively playable while XI is a piece of shit jank machine. And also, I did in my post provide to you one of the most egregious examples of jank in XI that is unable to be fixed by mods, you just chose to ignore it for some reason (sheath/unsheath)>In other words, it needs to play like WoW where you mash hotbars and dodge AoEs.It needs to be more playable in some way. Using my example and not your WoW example that you keep incorrectly obsessing about, they could put XI inside the PSO engine and it would instantly improve dramatically as a game.
>load in game>Character looks very different from the CG representationsstill makes me kek uncontrollably
>>737385736All I get is the Dave's double combo.
>>737385529To be clear, I like XI. I had fun with it and the stories are good and the underlying game systems like subclassing and the job fantasies - those things are all good. But XI is borderline unplayable as a game. Even after you've downloaded 50 different mods to make the game slightly more playable, it's still extremely jank.
>>737386001gpt bot post
>>737385968>I blame the insane stalkers this game attracts more than some conspiracy.Well, yeah, privating of Lodestone happened during the stalker plugin fiasco, so that's definitely to blame, but there are multiple things that directly affects the data collection and LuckyBancho makes no note of them whatsoever.
>>737385971>it's unplayable!>it's jank!>it's outdated!Over and over again, and you can't even describe how. The fact is you just don't like XI because it's not an action game. That's why you like PSO and WoW. FFXI is a console JRPG like every other game in the series before it. You just don't like that kind of game, it doesn't make it unplayable.
>>737386031>unplayable>jankSay it again!
>weekly is praetoriumdo i just queue for it, or do i do MSQ roulette and go for the 1/3?
>>737386094>>737386146>Over and over again, and you can't even describe how.I did describe how, you just ignored it, and you continuing to ignore what I type doesn't really give me confidence that typing out even more ways that XI is jank would ever truly reach you. You don't want an answer, you want to keep screeching.
>it's unplayableHow?>well it's just unplayableBut how?>it's unplayable and jankBut what do you mean when you say that?>it's unplayableCan you try and describe what you mean at all?>well it's unplayable and jankUnplayable in what way?>it's unplayable
>>737386001it pisses me off because in the creation screen I thought my character looked cool but when I actually got in game he looked special ed
Endbabs will tell you with a straight face that SoSEX is a good fight when it's proteans/in/out/freeze/pyretic: the content.
>>737385778Lodestone is not private by default, and you can check levels, minions and mounts.
>>737384730Jolibee NA fucking sucks and you know it.
>>737386242this bitch had the worst job design takes
>>737386206No, you just said that sheathing and unsheathing is unplayable jank. You didn't even attempt to describe why that is, or why you believe it. You just think that saying it is counts as an argument. There's nothing wrong with activating combat mode. That's what the game is. You're entering a combat state and readying new menus.
>>737386234Egregious levels of false advertising.
>>737386251I think achievements are generally used for accruing data.
>>737383501This will more than likely the real answer. He's going to fanfest and wants people to recognise him.
>>737385536does XI still not have keybinds
>>737386225this really does describe nu-mnk and rdm to a tee
>>737386403It's had keybinds since it launched. Hold ctrl or alt to make them appear.
>>737386280I only remember her complaining about BRD before DSR prog but she was 100% right. She left XIV due to burnout or whatever after and I dunno what shes doing now.
>>737386403it does. you just program them yourself
>Losing 163,000 players in a span of two months. HOLY SHIT.
>>737386225>>737386295>No, you just said that sheathing and unsheathing is unplayable jank. You didn't even attempt to describe why that isForgive me. I incorrectly assumed that (You) have played XI and would know what I'm talking about, but I guess not. It would make sense though. If you have never personally played XI before, you would have no idea that sheathing and unsheathing your weapon is a massive problem, because why would it be? Only someone who has played XI would know why this is such a jank piece of shit. >>737386403Not really, no. It has macro bars that you need to manually type shit into.
>>737386476>I incorrectly assumed that (You) have played XI and would know what I'm talking about, but I guess not.I've played it since launch, so you can skip this part.>UHM BUT IF YOU HAD PLAYED YOU WOULD KNOW I'M RIGHT!No, describe what's wrong with the mechanic. Describe why it's unplayable and not simply a mechanic you don't like.>sheathing and unsheathing your weapon is a massive problemHow? Why? Use your words like a big boy. You can do it, I believe in you. Come on, give it a try.>Only someone who has played XI would know why this is such a jank piece of shit.Then surely you can describe it, since it's so obvious and widely accepted that it's a problem. You can do that, right? Your next post will explain what's wrong with the mechanic instead of dodging the question again, right?
>>737386474don't be concerned. its just me not paying the subs for my 164k member bard band
sure is a lot of hair-trigger xi whiteknights itt
>>737386441>>737386449>>737386476So for instance, if I want to use Fire, I have to make a macro for it and bind it to a key?
>>737386618When you enter combat, a combat menu pops up on the left of your screen. You can click on the Magic page and click on Fire there like you're playing any other Final Fantasy. Or you can write a macro that includes '/ma "Fire" <t>' and set it on your macro hotkey page.
>>737386612based saudi oil prince
>>737386618/equip Fire Staff/equip Int Ring/equip Int Ring/ma "Fire" <t>/echo 10 "Fire Ready!"
>>737386669https://github.com/SirEdeonX/FFXIAddons/tree/master/xivhotbarsomeone already made an actionbar plugin neat
>>737386612Doesn't that mean SE are losing out on 164k equivalent player sub money even if it's one guy paying for it?
>>737386709they're all trial accounts
>>737386614They're a bit of a cult.
>>737386474>covid bubble and asmongold perfect storm>lodestones where privated>schizo conveniently ignoring the facts
>>737386789>>737386792Funni combo of posts.
>>737386792Anon quicklyIf a group doubles due to an eventAnd then that event subsides, and the group that doubled now halvesWhat is the likely implication of that?
>>737386593>No, describe what's wrong with the mechanic. Describe why it's unplayable and not simply a mechanic you don't like.>Use your words like a big boy. You can do it, I believe in you. Come on, give it a try.I think it will be funnier to not describe the obvious ways that XI's sheath/unsheath mechanic is horribly jank, because apparently you are very familiar with it (doubtful) but you also can't understand why someone would call it "jank". >>737386618Wait till you find out about gear switching.
>>737386792>Covid bubble>Asmongold Are you retarded? That was 5 years ago. This 163k player loss is from February 2026/-223 of this year to now 2026/04/19. I guess you are retarded.>>737372510
>>737386789yeah. the best part is if you go to the rare ff11 thread they'll always complain that the game isn't what it used to be and always open with that if someone asks about trying retailit really is just a bunch of millenials paying rent on their misspent youth
dawnfail apologists lost
>>737387041That's a pretty common mentality, to be honest.>THE GAME SUCKS IT'S AWFUL FUCK THE GAME AND THE DEVS>yeahhh the game sucks!!>Shut the fuck up fag the game is amazing, you filtered brainlet browncuck.
doomers lost btw
>>737387020Oh hey, look. You didn't describe what's wrong with the mechanic at all. Crazy, who would have thought?It's almost as if... you... can't?Is it low verbal IQ, or is it that there's nothing objectively wrong with the mechanic and you simply don't like it because you prefer action games?
>>737386896>the group that doubled now halvesThere is no proof of this. Your bogus kangaroo court numbers mean nothing. If you actually play the game and have a pulse on the community you can make an educated guess that the numbers are probably sitting at 70 - 75% of the peak. During a lull with no savage or ultimates. During raiding season it's probably 85 - 90%.
>>737387157Anon, you're jumping the gun. Read what I'm writing.
>>737360721This part is still weird to me. Why make the graph taller? What is the possible reasoning behind this?
>>737387041>>737387106That strawman was fucking destroyed, holy shit.
>>737372510>JP down 50k players>NA down 90k players>EU down 30k playersHow in the fuck did JP and NA numbers crater so much? JP numbers are most surprising because they've been relatively stable for years but a 50k loss is a massive drop.
>>737387257you're so mad lol
>>737387237I knew it. He was a falseflagging wowchud all along. This fucking gook piece of shit was playing the long game the whole time.
ever feel like the game could be more vague?
>>737387271official CN server launch
>>737387153Anon, you have continually given me zero reason to believe that you are arguing in good faith and you have done nothing except reinforce that belief. I get that XI is your favorite video game of all time and you've been playing it for so long that you apparently can't notice the jank anymore or you've never played it, which wouldn't even be weird for an XIV thread but you can't expect me to believe that you can sit there and pretend to be oblivious to how jank sheathing and unsheathing your weapon is or how jank targeting is. It's a 25 year old MMO, of course there is jank in it, I don't even understand how that's controversial to you. The fact is simply that PSO is intuitively playable even in 2026, while XI is a piece of shit jank box that need 800 mods to even be remotely playable, and that even after you mod the fuck out of it (including cheat mods that remove animation lock) it's still not a fluid game to play.
Hmm its almost like some very big event happened that potentially exposed people's account, leading to them privating their lodestonesI can't recall thoughI'm a simpler player with a limited scope
um can you prove it? erm likecan you prove it can you scientifically establish how game mechanics and the user experience involved therein is subparif you are unable, i'm afraid i must conclude that i have le won this epic debate and final fantasy xi is indeed the best game in existence that only isnt more popular because too many people are too dumb and brown to 'get it'
>Dawntranny is now resorting to shitposting about XI to take the heat off xer flopping gamehow embarassing
>>737387570this post was fact-checked by real 200IQ white ubermensch gigachad XIgawds
>>737387428>Anon, you have continually given me zero reason to believe that you are arguing in good faithJust kill yourself already. We're past the point where you get to pretend you're trying to have a good faith discussion. You've done nothing but dodge the question this entire time, and now you're shifting to accusing me of not playing FFXI. If I log in and post the question from my chat box, will you actually answer it? We both know you won't, but it might be funny to watch you dodge again.>but you can't expect me to believe that you can sit there and pretend to be oblivious to how jank sheathing and unsheathing your weapon is or how jank targeting isYou're just trying to assert that it's common knowledge and I HAVE to agree with you because that's just how it is. But it's not. Describe what is wrong with the mechanic.>while XI is a piece of shit jank box that need 800 mods to even be remotely playableFor people who don't know how to play Final Fantasy, maybe.
>>737387505that entire debacle has to have only affected like less than 100 players, maybe 200.like who the fuck actually cares if people can figure out what other characters are on your account?
Holy shit dawntrannies are getting raped
>>737387505Argument falls apart immediately because that happened last year and the two census comparison results are from this year. February of this year to April of this year. All previous events should have no corrolation or impact on the two results of this year. February of this year had 934k people playingApril of this year it's gone down to 771k people.The pirating of lodestone because of playerscope because of stalking was all an issue last year unrelated to the census results of this year otherwise the February result would be much lower than over 900k. >>737372510
>>737383774Yeah he's done this in the past. Big spurt of obvious 'sanctioned' (garbage) threads and then crackdown of actual threads that actually talk about the gameYou DO NOT hate these fags hard enough
>>737387505>very big eventmentally ill ERPers getting doxed because they're retarded is far from a "very big event"nobody normal was affected
>>737387570i wish more people would contribute to the bingo cards. thats actually fun. speculating about the expansion too. people who are emotionally invested in the console war analogue due to lack of actual problems ruin everything :\
>>737387570>>737387654>>737387691Anon, I don't like the Dawntrail MSQ at all. Not even a little bit. I'd even say that XI's "MSQs" are more consistently good than XIV's, and they're also more concise, probably as a tech limitation but this ends up working to its benefit because nothing feels too overly drawn out. The jobs in XI are all better than the jobs in XIV, and the subjob system is cool. The underlying game systems are all extremely solid. This is my post also: >>737386031There is a good game inside of XI. It's just borderline unplayable. Even after you mod the fuck out of it, there is still jank that cannot be fixed. XIM is how XI should play. No matter how much you mod XI, it will never play as fluidly as XIM. And there is no excuse for XI's jankiness either, because vanilla PSO holds up even in 2026, while even a heavily modded XI is barely playable. There's no reason for it to be as bad as it is. The remake should never have been canceled.
>>737387428>The fact is simply that PSO is intuitively playable even in 2026, while XI is a piece of shit jank box that need 800 mods to even be remotely playable, and that even after you mod the fuck out of it (including cheat mods that remove animation lock) it's still not a fluid game to play.Thread-scorching trvthnvke.
>>737387779>nobody normal was affectedFrom posts here I was under the impression if affected everyone and thats why it was used to show the "real" player numbers
>>737387836>It's just borderline unplayableHE SAID IT AGAIN!
Which FF has more subs at this moment? XI or XIV?
Pre-fanfest threads are crazy in how bad they are lol
>>73738799114. but it should be known that long time ff11 players have been paying extra sub for alts and inventory. its not uncommon for it to be 30 a month
>>737387991You aren't asking this seriously right?
List of Ongoing Reasons Dawntrail is a failure:>Chuds>Transphobes>Racists that hate black gospel music>the heckin' Grifters on youtube>Mod makers>Discord raiders>/v/ jannies>XI players>COVID>WoW players>Asmongold>The war on IranCertainly none of it was Yoshida or the game's fault whatsoever.
>>737387991XI would need to have more subs that Shadowbringers had in order for it to have more subs than Dawntrail has. It's just not even possible for XI to have more.
>>737387991XIV and there's really no contest. XI had seen amazing growth recently however but it's still nowhere near even current "verge of maintenance mode" XIV as some pretend it to be
>>737388042I'm curious.
>>737388027Nah, the pre-5.0 fan fest threads were mega comfy. People would either bitch about Eureka having too much grind or do the buoyant boy copypasta. Or say Lyse stole all your glory which also wasn't true. Good times, I miss it. Fanbase didn't get truly unhinged until SHB.
The real question is:>Will the mod/janny use the same image for his OP again? And if so, how long will he continue to do this? Will it last all the way through fanfest?
We should organize a /v/ meetup @ fanfest
>>737388053have you ever considered what would happen if the premise of the question was flawed?
>>737388141>Or say Lyse stole all your glory which also wasn't true. GoodLyse did steal Raubahn's expansion. If you replaced Lyse with Raubahn, suddenly the expansion makes a lot more sense. Yda should have just died alongside Papalymo somehow.
>>737388053>>XI playersAnon, there is zero bad blood going from XIV -> XI. In fact, the sole reason XI has been doing so well since the Vana'diel Alliance Raids is because XIV players are playing XI for the first time. The bad blood occurs going from XI -> XIV. For some reason, XI players fucking HATE XIV.
>>737388154I'm not going to fanfest NA. I might go to Germany fanfest I'm undecided. I'll see how the NA reveals go. I'll buy a scalped ticket.
>>737388274of course no XIV players have bad blood towards XIthey've never played a final fantasy game
>>737388274because 11 was put on maintenance mode to accommodate 14's developmentmind you this happened over 15 years ago and XIV is now older than XI was when this happened
>>737388154CAT SEXO
>>737388274This is pure delusion. There are years worth of XIV threads seething about XI discussion.
>>737388141the boy is not very boyant
>>737388405quite a way to frame people attacking 14 in 14 threads at the same time saying play a real mmo like 11 and being told to make their own threadyou retard
>>737388363What are you even pissing your panties about, anon? Did you let the mask slip too far? Are you a WoW player or a XI player? >>737388405>There are years worth of XIV threads seething about XI discussion.Doubtful. I started playing XI with the alliance raids and I've only ever seen XI players shitting on XIV, never the other way around. Every XI thread, someone shits on XIV in like the first 5 posts.
>>737387809Who are you warring with lil schizo?
I had nothing against XI or XI enjoyers.But after years of schizophrenic shitposting about XIV by XI posters and (ironically) little brother complex behavior, my respect for it as the elder sibling to XIV has switched to "wow, those people are really unpleasant"
>>737388198No it wouldn't, Raubahn was still tied to the Flames and wouldn't have EVER left unless Nanamo basically fired him to make it happen. You would know this if you didn't skip the cutscenes in 4.1. Raubahn's whole character is the the last carriage out of Gyr Abania, which is why Ilberd immediately grew to despise him.
New thread?
>>737388521myself obviously. i'm posting every other post in this thread to make an elaborate ruse to confuse you
>>737388154was that an actual blizzard employee at fanfest or something?i bet this fanfest is going to be crawling with them since it takes place just a few miles away from blizzard's headquarters.
>>737388619nowe don't need a general
How do I play GNB in Triumph? I'm sick of losing this shitty fucking game mode.
>>737388574>Raubahn was still tied to the Flames and wouldn't have EVER left unless NanamoSee, this is always the only argument you guys ever have, but it loses ALL credibility because it happens at the end of the MSQ anyway. If it NEVER happened, you'd maybe have a point. But it happens immediately after Lyse completes Raubahn's character arc for him. Lyse gets to be Raubahn for the expansion, and then after Lyse is done being Raubahn, they bring Raubahn in to be Raubahn. It's almost as dumb as throwing Nidhogg's eye of a bridge.
>>737388660>we don't need a generalThis is a mod/janny curated shitpost thread / placeholder so that no real threads can be put on the catalogue during fanfest. As such, this "general" thread will remain in place and will only be deleted if positive posting ever overtakes negative posting.
>>737388737>nidhogg eyereddit-tier "plot hole" up there with "why didnt they ride eagles to mordor"
>>737388849I know, I'm just giving my opinion. I know it won't change anything.
>>737388972but anon, if i can't use knowledge about the story that the characters couldn't know how will i say that i'm smarter than the writer?
>>737388849>so that no real threads can be put on the catalogue during fanfestOh he can try, it won't do him any good
>>737388690Look for the uncapped point, stand in it and spin to win
>>737388849>>737372227
>>737388972>reddit-tier "plot hole" up there with "why didnt they ride eagles to mordor"I don't care about Lord of the Rings so I can't understand your surely genius analogy, but I'm not saying it's a plot hole. I'm saying that as soon as I saw it happen I was like "oh my fucking god you retards" and guess what, I was right. I basically did the same thing with Lyse and Raubahn. Raubahn had been built up all throughout ARR as the Ala Mhigo guy. He also lost an arm. So naturally, when we're going to Ala Mhigo, I assume we're going with the Ala Mhigo guy who lost his arm. But nope, Yda is actually her sister, and apparently Lyse is Ala Mhigo now. So they invented a whole new person that didn't even exist just so that she could steal the expansion of the guy who had already been well established as the Ala Mhigo guy. Then she gets to lead the resistance despite no qualifications or experience whatsoever, when Raubahn could have done it and had merit to do it. But sure, whatever, it's Lyse now, I guess we needed a strong female protagonist, I get it, feminism and everything. And then all of it gets thrown away because they give the resolution to Raubahn in the end anyway, after Lyse has already done all of his character arc for him. It's just retarded. The same thing actually happened with Dawntrail. It should have been Krile's expansion, but they once again invented a brand new person who didn't exist so that they could steal the character arc of the preestablished person who actually deserved it.
>>737387991XI for sure. Why else would they keep it up?
>>737389315may as well pat yourself on the back for saying the sky is blue with the nidhogg eye toss, there wasn't a good solution to that
>>737389523you don't understand anon. his idea was better than the writer's because he didn't like it
You guys are still going...it's not that seriousChill out, have a bagel
Why didn't they just destroy the eyes and blow up the bridge with the ensuing burst of aether, killing everyone present?
i hate bagels
>>737389719Have a waffle
>vizex is jewishOy vey...
everything or blueberry?
I like bagels. Especially Asiago bagel.
>>737389759It's one of the few things they did right>>737389768EverythingI'm having cinnamon raisin>>737389802Based
>>737389643Why are you angry about this? I didn't have a better idea either, I just thought it was peak retard to throw it off a bridge, and I was right. They later just stab the eye so I don't get why they couldn't do that back then.
the greatest whitepill is learning that all the sperging out on /v/ doesn't change anythingmotherfuckers have been in the trenches slapfighting over dt good dt bad for like nearly 2 years and it has changed nothing
>>737389907>over dt good dt badNo one thinks the Dawntrail MSQ is good though.
>>737389891>They later just stab the eye so I don't get why they couldn't do that back then.They stab the eyes after they had been sucked dry of aether to sustain Shinryu. They were still fresh on the bridge. Aether violently explodes in situations like that, which is how crystals are formed. You can check Mor Dhona or Tharl Oom Kosh to see examples of similar aetherial explosions.
>>737389891using outside information to judge the actions of characters in the story is actual bonafide autism anon
>>737389907same as it ever was
>>737390007Okay, I didn't do that though. What outside information are you even supposing that I used?
>>737390093you are saying aymeric is dumb because he told us to throw the eyes off in a panicyou then say that laster, estinien destroys the eyes, and that this was correctnext you're going to say that its technically in game and its a shame you don't understand how dumb you are
>>737390181>you are saying aymeric is dumb because he told us to throw the eyes off in a panicI'm saying that I thought it was a bad move to throw the eye off the bridge and that as soon as it happened I was like "oh no you retards", and I was right. >you then say that laster, estinien destroys the eyes, and that this was correctYup. I didn't have and I didn't offer a substitute plan instead of throwing the eyes off. Someone asked me what could be done, so I said they later destroy it by just stabbing it, so I don't get why that couldn't have worked. To which someone responded that it would have exploded if they did that, which sure maybe, I don't know. You only can't understand the order of operations because you don't want to understand the order of operations. I thought they were retarded first, but I had no alternative plan. Then they stab the eye and I wonder why they couldn't have just done that in the first place. You can't really be so stupid that you don't understand this, can you?>next you're going to say that its technically in game and its a shame you don't understand how dumb you areYou'd be a lot less angry about things if you didn't constantly make up things that no one said just so you can try to argue against them.
WE GO TOGETHAAAH
>>737389958>>>737390068And you may find yourself in a beautiful houseWith a beautiful wifeAnd you may ask yourself"Well ... how did I get here?"
>>737390587No one does think Dawntrail is good though. I don't know what your post means. It's rated at like 40-50% everywhere compared to the usual 90%+
>>737360721*yawn* just add m+ already what are these japs waiting for. Would the insanely casual community revolt or something? Too bad shitters.
>>737390763you want green dps to have to heal and for tanks to not be able to wall 2 wall every single pre boss hallway?
