Genuinely how do you fix this?
Bring back dedicated servers
>>737432489Dedicated servers.Deemphasize ranked, do open reg tournaments in-client
>>737432489Kek. Are you saying playing for fun is bad? Are you mad you took the game seriously and got wrecked by casuals???
>>737432579>got wrecked by casualsBased retard just making shit up.
>>737432489OP image but unironically. if you are queuing for a competitive mode in a team game and then don't play to win you are actively griefing your teammates. there is a whole TEAM in a TEAM GAME. and you are going out of your way to ruin the match for those people on your team. it's antisocial behavior. if you don't care about winning, don't play ranked.
it's been solved for ages, but no game wants to do it.Use Engagement Based Matchmaking as a positive tool to q toxic people together
>>737432489What a disingenuous image.>compfags hate casuals and believe they ruin everything>screech out in agony over the slightest bit of SBMMMarathon is going through this right now. The game has gotten so sweaty that only the hardcore audience remains and they constantly chase away casuals leaving them only against each other. And to the surprise of nobody, not even the sweats like playing against each other.
>>737432489ban all competitive players into a containment serverez
>>737432619>>screech out in agony over the slightest bit of SBMMno that image is about the retards who "play for fun", but only queue ranked for mysterious reasons.
>>737432579>got wrecked by casualsAnon I don't think anyone is complaining about having casuals on the opposite team. That's just a free win.It's when you're matched with them and they grief your team that they become a problem.
>>737432603I swear to god people going into competitive games with a casula mindset drives me fucking crazy. If I start a team based game and call strats and relay info over mic I get wither no response or some nigger telling me to shut up and play. Then when we lose suddenly their mics work and they act confused as to why we got stomped.
there are millions of single player games and 1v1 games where you can have fun to your hearts content and nobody will give a shit why do you retards default to ruining team games? if you don't want to try to win then don't play a competitive multiplayer game (or play with a lobby of likeminded people so nobody is being griefed)
>>737432489SERVERBROWSERS
>>737432489Server browser return is always the answer. Casuals will naturally find and filter to party/RTD/RP/24-7 frag fest mapsPeople who just want to play semi-normally without max sweat will find some social servers.People who wanna be the best will find ones that host tournies or advertise as practice for them. The problem with a lot of modern SBMM is that even in what's called free play/casual mode it's still matching the player with meta slaves and everybody trying beyond their desired skill level. This causes all sides to go full toxic and makes the game feel worse.
>>737432686>>737432892I can play for fun and still be trying to win. I think you losers just can't image a scenario where losing can still be a fun experience. I've played games where it felt like everyone did their best but came short, then one guy acts like a bitch and accuses everyone of griefing. Fucking ridiculous.
>>73743299790% of your type is the "person who is sweaty in trying not to appear as a sweat".It's just "vibes and fun XD" when you're winning, but suddenly you start getting a little passive-aggressive and mean when things are going poorly (especially if you think you're doing well/ better than your team)
>>737432717>getting matched with casualsImagine tryharding and still being as bad as casuals
>>737432997>I've played games where it felt like everyone did their bestthat's not what we're talking about thoughwe're talking about the people who don't try at all and then act victimized when they're called out
>>737432489Private servers
Sorry, but shouldn't Skill Based Matchmaking prevent this scenario from happening?
>video games>competitive
>I want to play a competitive team game but I will NOT communicate except to troll or backseat and I will NOT assist my team unless I can bait them for a killWhy are zoomers like this?
>>737433309Unfortunately doesn't exist in MOBAs
>>737432489Ban all competitive tards. If you tryhard you get banned, it should be that simple.
>>737433521>How To Destroy Your Multiplayer Game In One Easy Step
Why do lil zoomies have to make every single game competitive? It's the most embarrassing shit imaginable. >OH MY STARS MOM, I'M IN THE CANDY CRUSH WORLD CHAMPION FINALS!>JAMAL, TELL MY WIFE I GOT 3RD PLACE IN THE FORTNITE DANCE CONTEST!>NEVAEH, YOUR STEP DADDY STOLE THE MOST BRAINROTS IN ROBLOX. DO YOU LOVE ME YET?
I'm the casual queueing for competitive matches and losing on purpose, always love seeing threads seethe about it.
>>737433179yep. in CS I will flame you in game chat if you>go afk and start a round late because of it>take the bomb into places it doesn't belong, alone, away from your teammates>throw smokes that block our own damn path on T side>stick with some meme weapon like pp bizon while there are AKs and M4s on the groundI have never flamed someone for missing shots or failing a jump.>>737433309no. many SBMM systems only care about the total or average skill of a team, so they are fine with putting absolute retards in teams with pros, as long as the skill rating of the players evens out to match the other team. this is how you get matches where everyone on your own team is way worse than you while the other team's players are almost at your level. the SBMM behaves as if one good player can carry 4 bad players (he can't). the biggest win/loss condition in multiplayer games is how many sub-par players you have on your team compared to the other. if your team has two retards and the other team only has one retard you're gonna lose that match. the possibility for an overperformer to lift up a team's results is miniscule by comparison, at least in low TTK games like CS. even in a high TTK game like Quake Champions I have found the same is true, whichever team has more retards almost always loses. the overperformers don't matter nearly as much.
>>737433585that's way too many words to just say "i suck at games and am mad"
>>737432489Remember, in competitive matches you're always matched with people of your own skill.
>>737433585>zoomers invented competitive gamesstarcraft and quake bro?
>casual is nothing but mouth breathers that can't handle the concept of actually trying to win at all>competitive is ultra tryhard deluxes that scream at you for doing anything "off-meta" even if it's fucking working
Any kind of ELO system already fixes the problem as that player fucking around will drop, but you do have shit like account buying or boosting that creates an infinite problem where the worst players in the game constantly re-emerge in high ranked matchmaking. I remember Overwatch1+2 being really bad in this regard.
>competitivelol, it's fucking video games aimed at kids and teenagers, e-sports has always been a fucking meme, fuck off
>>737433964then why are you playing them?
>>737433881>competitive is ultra tryhard deluxes that scream at you for doing anything "off-meta" even if it's fucking working
>>737433881everyone worse than you is an uber casualeveryone better than you is a tryhard faggot/v/ in a nutshell
>>737432489Shit like "play for fun" and "PMA" is just tryhards coping by pretending they aren't caring so much it is driving them insane
>don't get rid of dedicated servers>don't ruin the game trying to appeal to compfagsAll you have to do is this for casuals and compfags to never cross each other.
>>737432730Hah reminds me of the one time i dipped into ranked COD, guy tells me to check my corners but i laser focus the capture point and get smoked from behind.They vote kicked me and i honestly it was deserved
>>737434061>/v/>playingGo back, we don't do that here
>>737432603Killing nazis is not antisocial behaviour. Likewise. ruining the game for compfags is a social service. It is the obligation of every decent person.
the murder and suppression of community servers /mods outside of some Valve games is a continuous mistakeit's been so long that people have been indoctrinated to believe community servers are just a way to dodge SBMM and pubstomp instead of playing with a consistent group of humans that may or may not become friends, and that modded servers are unrewarding wastes of time since there's no ranked number to chase
>play like shit>report anyone who complains
It's always the self proclaimed "casuals" that care about winning and losing the most.
/v/ used to pride itself in being good for the fun of it. We used to ridicule esports fags. What the fuck happened?
>playing for fun is toxicincorrect and if you keep sperging out in all chat i'll sandbag you at every opportunity and the rest of the server will laugh at you. fucking cant stand faggots who watch some shitbrain streamers quoting "meta" with zero understanding of what it means. fun players literally know the game inside and out. thats what they do funny shit. because "meta" is for retards who claim GM when they are silver.
>>737432489Be good.Literally just that.
>ranked players will grind 10,000 hours in kovaaks but won't use a microphone
>>737434509when the nazis were actually around you would have been one.
>zoomers are so bad at video games they need to try hard to keep up with anyone without a fried brainWhat a great generation
But what about comp fags who act toxic? I've had so many games in Rivals where we lose ONE team fight and it's always some butthurt fucker that goes "OH SO NOW WE'RE PLAYING FOR VIBES HUH????" usually women too wtf
>>737434552>LGBT flag>sassy gay voice on the mic>furry avatarI have more fun feeding the enemy team and pushing compfags to their limit just so I can say "Yikes. Honey, that's a report." I even have a fake address and phone number on my Steam bio for them to call and send hate messages to. It's the local police department.
>>737436019Damn, you're on a whole different level.
>>737436019based
>>737434072It's always been this way, mind you.Back in the Vanilla WoW days, I played a mage and always suggested pulling things en masse and just aoe-ing it down as the math checked out and was shut down every time, fast forward to Classic's release and lo and behold I was correct and mass pulling became the new meta.
>>737434701I still remember the OG Overwatch 4chan vs Reddit best of 5. A bunch of retarded anons from /v BTFOing a squad of streamer trannies will always be the height of this board.>that one Ruskie who was clearly drunk off his ass, slurring and vomiting on mic>wins a 1v3 and gets play of the game while blasting euro beats>the reddit team rage quitting game 3 and then shitfling on the subreddit about each other being useless
>>737436884Wasn't that another game
>>737433164No no no, you dont understand if they just weren't in elo hell, they would be diamond. Its always th fault of everyone else. They are completely blameless.
>>737433675>many SBMM systems only care about the total or average skill of a team, so they are fine with putting absolute retards in teams with pros, as long as the skill rating of the players evens out to match the other team>I am not that I am as bad as those I get matched with, its that I am so good I cant get matched with other good players!This is some hilarious cope.
>>737433164Thread absolutely btfo'd
>>737432579no, there's a certain brand of casual who gets pissed when you tell them they're fucking uplike the casual DPS main who does less damage than the healer and gets pissy when called out
Competitive babies deserve to be dunked on by fun-having CHADS
>>737432489state id's>muhfreedomcan't be fixed without fixing everything else wrong with society that make's people act this way first.
>>737432598I must have hit the nail on the head if you for this mad
>>737437236I'm about as likely to be "the pro" in a team as I am to be a mediocre player in a team where someone better than me is "the pro". I'm never the retard though since only retards like (You) are eligible for that role. and then they hide behind>Akshually I am not bad because I WANTED to lose any way haha, it's more FUN to lose!
>>737432607Arc raiders does this and the toxic people complain that no one wants to talk to them and is shooting on sight. People don't want the fun combat they want to shit on the unsuspecting.
>>737437236He's right. You can easily prove it by creating a smurf account and playing like a retard
Kill all competitive fags.Remove matchmaking and ranked slop.Restore private server hosting + mod support.
>>737432579like that Starcraft guy that gets angry on stream
>>737437236He's completely right though, It's crazy old news that was a serious topic around Overwatch days. Problem is game companies don't give a fuck and just want to preserve the lowiq playerbase they have that buys MTX on a larger scale than the rest of the population.
A similar thread died before I could reply so I'll post it here.Enjoy.>>737441825>their tank with a negative KDR immediately starts flaming the Torbjorn in all chat accusing him of throwing by not playing a meta hero like SojournTo be fair there are instances wherein a subpar performance from one role can make other roles suffer.I am reminded of a game of Heroes of the Storm wherein we had 2 fags pick double support.Now admittedly these supports become quite strong past level 16 (lategame), but first we have to get there. Meaning we now have to suffer for well over 15min because we have fuck-all damage and the enemy does not need to respect us at all and can just waddle right into us.And these two fags then had the gall to question our KT for his performance. Fucking faggots. How the fuck is KT supposed to perform whenever he pokes his head out he gets dumpstered because again, we ain't got shit the enemy needs to respect.Made me a little upset it did.
>>737432603This almost sounds fair but then you get matches where people are trying to win and then teammates just fail because they're either just having a bad match or because the enemy team just played better, and then overly competitive players still walk around screeching their heads off about how no one was actually trying and all this other nonsense.
>>737445856You gave too little context. What was your entire team?At certain point double support was meta in HotS for a good reason.But for that combo you needed a character that could output constant damage. Relying on a single mage in that combo doesn't sound smart.
>>737446607It was quickplay.Just a duo-group queuing double support into a bunch of randoms.
>>737432489We solved this shit in the 90s
>>737436019kek, if only you had an actual glownigger address to use
>>737432607they literally all do this lmao
>>737446926This changes a lot.Who the fuck cares that much about QM? The worse the players the more they flame each other. Shit talking your team during the match is just dumb.You can't win all games after all.Once your team stops acting as a team defeat is almost certain. Other team might throw their game even harder after all.
