Turns out you might have rights.
But I'm a gay black woman.
This is a bad thing because retards should get punished for being retardsIf you bought an ubishit game and then had it stolen from you, then you should have listened to me when I called you a faggot for buying it in the first place
>>737507852wow great! I'll get to play all those games i can't remember the names of because i never played them to begin with because live service games are inherently shit to start. what a win!
>>737507948Just kill them?
that's nice. no need to be a contrarian freak about this.
>>737507948>>737508083saars....
>>737507948If your child is about to jump off of a bridge, do you stop them or let them "learn from the exprience"?Laws are regulations exist to wrangle the retards of humanity who can't make decisions for themselves, and that's the vast majority of the human population. Individual thinkers don't move the world, it's the drones, and you gotta keep them in check.
>>737507948that works both ways though. if ubisoft was retarded enough to fuck with EU then they deserve to get fined into bankruptcy.
we could've had some actually important, impactful change be made but instead you rallied to.... keep digital toys alive forevergood job, gaymers
>>737508167yeah Ross should have solved world hunger instead
>>737508167>could've had some actually important, impactful changSuch as?Also, ESL much?
>>737507852Americans on suicide watch.
>>737507948>If you bought an ubishit game and then had it stolen from you, then you should have listened to me when I called you a faggot for buying it in the first placeKek, this. None of the singleplayer games I own have this problem. Even C&C4 which I pirated when it was released had a crack for the EA login screen but I will never reinstall it again since it's also trash game and as the last in the series can be safely ignored canon-wise.
>>737507852>EU passes some gay bullshit laws like they always do>now game companies will have the excuse they need to charge $100+ for games in order to support it in perpetuity>now companies will also have to throw away money to revive dead servers for PS3/360 era games for the one (1) person on the planet who still plays it instead of developing new gamesGreat going you fucking retards. Pirate Software may be a raging faggot nepobaby retard but he's 100% right about this.
Maybe they could stop the shit that actually matters like banning you from the internet unless you install government spyware on your approved mobile phone (desktops/Linux not allowed) and give them your ID/biometrics to simply use websites?
>>737508167>we could've had some actually important, impactful change be madeThats SKG
>>737508139>If your child is about to jump off of a bridge, do you stop them or let them "learn from the exprience"?I'd tell him to do a flipGood job comparing buyniggers with literal braindead kids though, that's perfect
>>737507948So why don't retarded companies get punished for being retards?
And here come the 5 flavors of misdirection and whataboutism. Their playbook is so predictable.
>>737508321if they would bring back servers for halo 3 and reach i'd instantly subscribe back to xbox live and dust off my 360. and im sure there would be thousands, tens of thousands with me
>>737508167EU bureaucats aren't paid by the game lobby, so this was an easy issue for everyone to agree on.
>>737508364Kek, dumb nigger
>>737507948I want to replay Heroes 6, thanks to SKG i will be able toSuck a cock
>>737508227>amerigan too retarded to comprehend a correctly written sentence above 4th grade levelhow embarrassing
>>737508364I literally told you, majority of the world population ARE braindead kids, but they're about 25-50 years of age, can vote and own a gun
>>737507948Except I'm being punished for someone else being a retard, since videogame companies caught on that exploiting retards is a viable business model.
>>737507852damn, the right to play shitty games, woah.... just woah...
>>737507948>actually we SHOULDNT punish the company for stealing from you goys! Its the goys fault for falling for it!
>>737507852I WILL OWN THINGS AND BE HAPPY
>>737508321Oh no, not the poor (((publishers))), how can they make so much slop, throw so much shit at a wall even if it doesn't stick, if they're made responsible for it? They'll have to like, make only a few games instead and make them good! The horror!
>dude lmao you had two years to watch the movie. No one should ever be allowed to watch it now. Instead only watch Movie 2
>>737508321Good, cant handle the costs, dont make multiplayer games
>>737508484English is also my second language, I understood what you tried to say, but holy fuck work on your literacy you lazy fuckand now answer the fucking question
>>737507852Yes but what does Israel think?
Notice how the only people against this are American. Yet Ross is an American. Seems like he's the only American who avoided the zog mind virus.
>>737507852>We'll never stop fighting to protect your right to play video slop!>Also, we're ethnically replacing you and will jail you if you point this out.
I'm starting to think that all this "your votes don't matter, the game is rigged" talk was a psyop to get people complacent with government doing whatever it wants.
>>737508581you're retarded
>>737507852Nope, you only have rights if you're Jewish.
>>737508604Americans regain higher brain functions when they settle elsewhere, and Ross lives in poland
>>737507852>digital ID to prove ownership
>>737508604Mold beats zog.
Qrd on what they are asking for?
BASEDRAPE BUNGIE
>>737508553in some cases it's>hah didn't watch this movie within two weeks? now you'll never be able to
We did it!
>>737508534Can't we just punish both? SKG sucks because it doesn't fuck retarded goys.
>>737508321>now game companies will have the excuse they need to charge $100+ for games in order to support it in perpetuityCan you stupid fucking faggots STOP acting like SKG was ever about forcing any dev to support any game on perpetuity?
>>737507852>massive campaign to save games succeeds>it all started because Ubisoft shut down the game server for some random shitty racing game nobody played except ONE guy who was bold enough and autistic enough to constantly complain about itThis is the equivalent of taking down a mob boss for tax evasion.
>>737508604American hereI simply don't want to be monkey paw'd on more gov regulationSay I wanted to release a game, now I have to follow whatever bullshit rules they're going to come up with?Also, I'm more upset about internet ID laws, crypto KYC, mass surveillance cameras, victimless crime laws, and other authoritarian dystopian shit governments are doingI want less, not more.
>>737508968It gets better. The thing would have failed if not for some completely unrelated guy mismanaging mana in a WoW raid.
>>737509080>I simply don't want to be monkey paw'd on more gov regulationYes, goy, let the corporations do whatever they want.
>>737507948>This is a bad thing because retards should get punished for being retardsAgreed!And in this case, the retards are the companies, I want all corporations punished as much as possible, because the last 3 years really the last 15 should have shown anyone with 2 braincells to rub together that all public companies are run by fucking retards, as such they all need to be punished indefinitely.
>>737507852based europe
>>737507948So is it also your own fault for being a virgin?
>>737508604Ross is one of those Americans who's lived all over, so even though he's from a dumbfuck state like Louisiana, he himself is not a dumbfuck.Plus, he's had personal experience with shitty companies, so he doesn't feel the need to do damage control for shitty companies like other Americans do.
>>737507852>Turns out you might have rights.Only if you're European. All other places on the planet suck corporate cocks.
>>737509170I am the most anti-capitalist person in this entire threadIf you were trying to ban extractive unearned income (stocks, money-lending, landlording, etc.) I would be all for itInstead you're asking for more rules on making a video game, or basically mandating GPL on games.
Watch how they have no defense left other than pivoting to the completely unrelated topic of digital IDs. This is such a desperate cry of a loser that it's sad to look at.
>>737509080>American hereCool, your post is discarded.
>>737509097Fuck, I forgot that raid was his downfall.
I have... human rights?
>>737509080You wont release any games. Thats the truth. But if game devs cant handle the regulations they can just release the game outside of europe, just like american poison (food) companies can sell their shit elsewhere
>>737508681Why the fuck can't you brownoids ever answer questions? Why are you such malicious, dishonest fucking snakes?>we could've had some actually important, impactful change be madeSUCH AS?ANSWER THE QUESTION, subhuman retard
>>737507852>>>737508813Look at that chad Ross. What a fucking hero.God bless him.
>>737507852>agree to the terms>get surprised when the terms are enforcedWhy are we punishing companies for the sins of the consumers?
>>737508426sickening corruption
>>737509290Yes, should I ask daddy EU to give all virgins government mandated gfs, or should I just aim to be a better man?
>>737509384Wasnt it dungeon (dire maul)? Molen core was just another strike at his credibility after first fuckup
>>737509080>what if I want to release my own indie MMO/always online game that I'll eventually shutdown the servers for and not give any option for the community to run their own?Then get ready to get regulated nerd
>>737507852I mean, this is normal for Europe. They love the state and hate businesses. That's why they're poor and don't make anything.
>>737507852Why are people against this? I paid for something, I don't want it gone just because some company decided to make a sequel, what the hell is wrong with leftists
>>737509445well it turns out >we can steal your money any time we want aren't fair terms
>>737509080>Say I wanted to release a game, now I have to follow whatever bullshit rules they're going to come up with?Yep.Don't like it? Then fuck off.
>>737507852So is this merely addressing live service games that get taken down? or are they trying to address when digital storefronts shut down and make it impossible to redownload?
>>737509553Because people are fucked in the head.
>>737509080>Say I wanted to release a game, now I have to follow whatever bullshit rules they're going to come up with?The bullshit rules in question:Make the code for running a server accessible to people so they can run their own servers to keep multiplayer games alive at their cost after you've pulled the plug on the game
>>737507852NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737509553It's the American belief that they are just a temporarily-embarrassed billionaire, so anything that gets in the way of them potentially making more money by fucking people over is bad.
>>737509549>They love the state and hate businesses. That's why they're poor and don't make anything.Well thanks for taking one for the team. They force companies to make global consumer friendly decisions because it's easier than just keeping it friendly in europe. Excited about cell phone battery changes coming soon.
>>737509413Yes you do
>>737509586The point is making sure that the data you already have will be usable without having to get an OK from the publisher each time.But if you downloaded the data and lost it, that's a different issue and entirely your problem, just like losing a DVD.
>>737509445companies can put anything they want in the terms, doesnt mean that its legally enforceable.
>>737508083youre yt btw
>>737509680>>737509549Thanks Eurobros, I appreciate you guys forcing corporations to not be such cunts.
>>737509553What does leftism have to do with defending corporate greed? The problem is idiots and jews, not communists.
>>737509690fair enough. It's too bad harddrives will eventually go bad and once a storefront shuts down you can't "delete and redownload" to manage memory. But it's still better than nothing, that was alwasy the nature of digital video games.
>>737509080Just put an offline mode or local multiplayer in your fucking game, retard.
>>737509846The amerigolem's mind can't spend a single day without projecting his masters' degeneracy onto the left, probably because they have no political left to speak of
>>737509941In the end its the Jew that controls both parties.
>>737509846Because commies are bad or something
Reminder that these threads exist exclusively for bad actors to radicalize you by latching their views onto the one thing your myopic ass cares about
>>737508321you didn't even bother to find out what SKG is about. holy fucking shit you industry shills are pathetic
>>737508139I let the government decide for me and demand me to show my ID to go on bridges
>>737507852What Ross heard:>Make EU stop killing video games!What the EU commission heard>Give EU more control over the game industry
>>737507852i dont care about this at alli just think its fucking funny
>>737510006Because they are.
>>737510134I think it's sadThe people involved are genuinely stupid from top to bottom and the whole thing on social media is basically just gamergate 2.0
>>737509995Currently under ZOG control>Democrats>Republicans>European Commission>Merz>Macron>Pedro SanchezYou have to take what you hear from these parties with a grain of salt, cuz they're all ultimately forwarding the 2030 plan in the end, all with AI-takeovers, Online Control, Datacenters, Outside-to-Digital Mass Surveillance, you know, WEF shit and the rest of it.
>>737510238So this time its gamergate but chuds won
>>737507948"you see, the 'American Way Of Life™' dictates that not being in the know should be punished by scams and poverty. Also, we will not provude education, so we- I mean, you can keep being scammed, perpetuating the backstabbing cycle."
>>737510238>its another retarded outsider who doesn't know what gamergate even was
>>737510327why are you samefagging, shill?
>>737507852>We heard you gamers! ...So now all live service games will require ID verification to enforce this new consumer protection law
>>737510238People are stupid because they want to keep playing a game after the company leaves it? What? We've had custom servers since the very beginning of videogames
>>737510296Chuds already kinda won GamerGate like chuds won over SBI.It was supposed to happen so that women cried about being gatekept, and Anita Sarkeesian earning jewbux by normalizing suspicion of male-gaze content, but gamers made it known that you don't just do that, and for years little bits and pieces crept back in, and Japan stayed strong until Silent Hill f. SBI got a little bit of backlash through but it came post-Trump, and during Covid so the response was weaker due to a lack of involvement from Hollywood celebs, and the hate-sites on Steam successfully pushed it back.All in all, you don't mess with people who know truth from fakeness. If women have a space in the industry, it doesn't come through the front door, and when it does, the industry starts to crumble.
See? They just have nothing else. Bringing up digital ID is their last desperate argument, regardless of how little sense it makes.
>>737510452Yes, that's exactly the kind of dipshit thinking these morons espouse, thank you for the example
>>737510483You can tell they're all zoomer consolefags because they don't understand that games where you can host your own local server have been around for literally as long as online gaming has been around, and continue to be made to this day.
>>737507852Id verification for games is good thing, because it would mean after you own game in one store you can own it in every store
>>737510483>>737510530>>737510483How else will they REALLY know if you're European and thus subject to these laws?They need to know what geo-region you're playing in to respect each region's laws, and no IP address isn't enoughBesides, they need to do it for age-verification too anyway
>>737510296>Gamergate but chuds wonIf by Chuds you mean white nationalists, sure.That's also no different at all from the original
REMINDER: Indie Devs are perfectly capable of having their games meet the standards that these regulations would be proposing. Literal teenagers are handling it just fine and there's no excuse for big businesses not doing it as well. In the past, the alternative was that people would just lynch opportunistic business men who try to trick people people into buying something that wasn't actually good / lived up to the promised standard, THAT was what we had instead of """BIG DADDY GOVERNMENT"""You don't see these anti-regulation types advocating that we remove laws that protect corpos from the people's wrath.I'm sure you can guess why.
>>737508167>Um, actually, only one thing can happen at a time.>If we're changing the laws to prevent consumers from being robbed, um, that means we can't change the laws to support the importation of niggers!>Society can only accomplish one task at a time, Chud, get your priorities straight!I'm fucking amazed by this mindset that presupposes that civilization across the globe only has the bandwith to tackle one topic at a time. Maybe your Xitter zeitgeist can only care about one thing at a time, faggot, but that's not how the legal system works.
>>737507948This is literally the logic scammers use to justify themselves. Living in a first world society means protecting retards from themselves, both the figurative and literal ones.If you use this logic you give up the right to use a toilet.
>>737510438How is this at all a logical conclusion? Like, jews are demons yeah but theyre at least good at making propoganda, it has to have some rationalization to it.
>>737510562>How else will they REALLY know if you're European and thus subject to these laws?It's irrelevant because they'll need to provide the capability to play these games offline no matter what, it's not like they save money only making those tools available in Europe, it'll just be global, the same way Steam was forced by Australia to make global refunds a thing, then most other digital marketplaces followed suit.
>>737509097He didnt mismanage shit.If you know the slightest thing about WoW, he 100% did all of that shit on purpose. Especially after his blink.
>>737510065Which country and government does this? Because I only know of UK which is just a fucking shitshow of a country.
>>737507948Scams shouldn't be allowed.
>>737510658Well yeah, but i mean the propoganda for godless westerners so they get away with it. Ill give you 3 examples1. Abortion is "women's rights!" (Child sacrifice)2. All races are equal, but some races are too equal (white genocide)3. Gender ideology is a human right! (Grooming and pedophile rights)
>>737509357>basically mandating GPL on games.Fucking what? All people are asking for is server binaries, not the source code. Where did you get this shit from?
>>737508681answer the question and we'll stop bullying you
>if you starve a SKG thread of real arguments against it for people to performatively attack it just turns into a /pol/ threadReally makes you think
>>737507852>the government will solve my inability to bypass DNS with a localhostYou are retarded and deserve everything bad that is coming for you. Piracy is literally your only friend and you still bootlick corporations.
If this kills off single player games relying on central servers I'll consider that massive win, god speed ross.
>>737511025Yes, the government is the only entity that exists with the power to fuck over corporations that are trying to fuck me.Corporations constantly try to fuck me in the modern era, so I want the government to fuck them back on my behalf.Stop trying to fuck me and I'll stop trying to fuck you.
>>737509097I keep hearing about this man, redpill me on this anon
>>737507852Now the European Union knows what its doing, huh? Funny how your worship of them flips on a dimeOf course a bunch of bureaucrats who love regulating love new regulations. They love extending their useless job. They get hard over the idea of appearing useful because it gets them another week of their parasite paycheck.
>>737510296>>737510454>>737510565newfags
>>737508613seek professional mental help
Anyone else noticed that the idea of the EU parliament being old farts who don't know what video games are and will just reject it is no longer being posted after the session?It's interesting how quickly the narrative changes.
>>737511081A certain narcissist youtuber/streamer was the most vocal and most viewed opposition of SKG.In the same year, he happened to have two distinct, unrelated scandals around him, one with a popular WoW guild and another with an irl animal shelter.People who followed the scandals found out about SKG indirectly through this asshole, which pretty much tripled the votes for the EU initiative.
Downstream effect I hope that this starts extending to all software and all forms of consumer goods that plays hopscotch between the goods and services label. As a consequence, I can also see this making sure that DRM is at the very least always temporary to ensure a working product at the end of the "service".
>universally good for the consumer changes get proposed>governments start agreeing with universally good for the consumer changes>actual shills or retarded contrarians crawl out of the woodwork to cry about how this is "actually a bad thing" despite it being good for everyone but corporations Sometimes I wish this dumbfuck board wasn't so focused on being the opposite of everything popular.
>>737511081He let his party die in WoW causing massive amounts of angry nerds. The portion that lived in the EU signed SKG out of spite when he said he hated it.
>>737509080If your game wasn't already complying with common sense of letting people play it after you no longer support it yourself, then it's garbage and shouldn't exist in the first place.
>>737510809America, UK, parts of europe
mandates like this are what lead to market stagnation and protectionist monopolies BTW.
>>737508139>buying a bad video game = dyingkek
>>737507852ferret rapist bros...this isnt looking so good for us...
>>737511495The market is already stagnant, so this is meaningless.
>>737511495How?
>>737511495Theoretically, how does a monopoly form out of this?
>>737511495Whatever is bad for "the industry" is good for gamers.
>>737511310>>737511417based, the only good thing trannies can do is make everyone hate them and undermine all they do
>>737511081Anons aren't telling you the story quite right. Pirate Software was considered a reputable ex-Blizzard gamedev until the WoW drama made people doubt his reputation. Ross making a video months later saying that the initiative failed due to the misinformation caused by Pirate Software started a wave of drama that saved the initiative, and revealed Pirate Software to be a nepobaby who can't code
>>737507948> retards should get punished for being retardsTrue.However, when punishing retards is too easy and profitable, you are left with a market that *only* produce increasingly retarded retard baits.Thus, you need to protect the retards. Not for their own sake, but for the sake of forcing the market to cater to non retards.
>>737511595Not him but let me explain>I'm John>I want to start a businessGovernment Karen:>UHHHHHHHH YOU DON'T HAVE THE 5 MILLION DIFFERENT PERMITS AND LICENSES REQUIRED FOR THA>YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW ALL 6 GORILLION RULES>LOOK, RULE #509179764928479 OF SECTION 2C5309879490884209>you have to open source your game server code but only if you go bankrupt on a Tuesday during a full moon
>>737512036That is for most cases and I agree that's bullshit, but I can't see how >Do what game developers did back in the day and either have a dedicated server program, or have a subscription modelIs going to hurt indie devs that mostly rely on P2P connections.
>>737512036Hi John.
>>737510327>>737508232>>737508604>>737508727>>737509080>>737509662>>737509348>>737509549Less obvious indian falseflag
>>737512229found the muttoid
>>737512036Hi John, do you have every single one of us?
Still not supporting your communist agenda
>>737511967the funny part about it was nobody cared about this guy at all before he started all that drama himself. just another nerd gaming the yt shorts system. nobody cared if he was lying about being a programmer, it was just another algo parasite, everything is theater on social media now anyway. all the evidence of him being a fraud was hiding in plain sight the entire time and not a single fucking person cared enough to call it out. his downfall was solely his own doing.
>>737507852Be honest with me, how fast is Ubisoft and EA changing their diapers right now?
>>737507948>It will never happen to a game I likeBased retard
>>737512528A couple people called him out, it's just that nobody cared about some random popular streamer being a hack, until said hack destroyed that chance of everyone owning their games
>>737507852That's cool I guess but I still don't care because I only play good games, which are, by definition, not connected to the internet and incapable of being clawed from my cold dead fingers.
>>737507852turns out eu brought back $100 games
>>737512909"I don't care so I'm gonna post in a thread for something that has no influence in my life whatsoever"
>>737507852So what games should I be getting for cheap now that'll explode in price once the servers are back open?
>>737507948>This is a bad thing because retards should get punished for being retardsbut that's exactly what's happening???????????????????????????????????????????????
>>737511498Spending money on anything that isn't essential can contribute to somebody dying, yespeople gamble their money away and this can lead to homelessness or suicide, any country worth their salt doesn't let people fuck themselves over through gambling, thus its heavily regulated
>>737508681How the fuck are you more afraid of an ESL now that he confirms he's not EPL? You fucking lost on an anonymous image board.
>>737511081Looks like this video covers most of the drama. I think I don't talk about how Maldavius (his furry name) got the campaign completely wrong, and then when Ross tried to explain to him in the most cordial manner, he proceeded to act like a complete ass and kept insisting the movement was in the wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ3JvShVuGo
>>737508321What a certified PirateSoftware post.
>>737508125I would disagree with that.
>>737513056Now youre getting it.
>>737509080American here, we need more specific regulation to crack down on corporate greed and drag retards like you kicking and screaming into having better quality of life.
>>737507948We are punishing the retards who profit of planned obsolescence lmao
>>737514340>American here, we need more specific regulation to crack downYou mean there's a problem not solved with guns? >American heredoubting this
>>737509995That means they control you too given you're doing their bidding of divide and conquer.
>>737508604As an American I am quite in favor of SKG, and wish you yuropoors well in adopting SKG legislation. Hopefully if something gets passed it causes a domino effect that gets some measure of protections put in place here, though I know that’s a long shot.
Why are 'gamers' against this when theres literally 0 downsides to gamers
>>737513306>can>canShut up retard.
>>737514529We've had a few guys try to solve similar issues with guns and it had everyone in the establishment kvetching how political violence is wrong, even though the public was cheering.>>737514698Trolling, contrarianism, us vs. them brainrot and years of corporate propaganda.
>>737514529So you want to go french revolution? But on the side of the royals. That's going to go well for you.
>>737508771Just imagine if no one could not watch Morbius.
>>737508083sounds good to me companies will make less live service games
>>737514698Can you name a single gamer who is against this? Because I only see anonymous shills
>>737507852The only rights I care about are the ones my government said I could have hundreds of years ago: guns, free speech, and that other stuff.
>>737507948They aren't getting punished, EVERYONE is getting punished.You're saying we need to be punished collectively because these publishers want to take advantage of people. Why the fuck would laws even exist if this was the objectively correct way of thinking?
>>737508321>now game companies will have the excuse they need to charge $100+ for games in order to support it in perpetuitythey need excuses?
>>737514698trolls and corporate implants
>>737514781Can, will and has, there's numerous examples of thishttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/article/PIIS2666-6065(23)00221-3/fulltexthttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(24)00167-1/fulltexthttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30427214/You're simply incapable of refuting anything said so you just resort to insults like the simpleton you are.
>>737508479>thanks to SKG I will be able to suck a cock
>>737507948Hm, I do agree with that somewhat.
>>737508204Nuke africa and israel, next.
>>737509080Who could be behind this post
>>737512437Your nation shall still be free to suffer, burger
>>737507948Jew
>>737510109They have no control over the industry. You're free to not release your game in Europe if you don't like the rules, just like you keep telling people they're free to not buy games with predatory practices.
>>737514698
I say lead in the water is fine.
Basically all (PC) multiplayer games had built in dedicated servers until 2010. There is zero technical difficulty involved. It would take negligible effort to implement. Why are gaming companies not releasing them as a routine procedure? Old games barely are competition. The few enthusiasts still playing classic arena shooters are not threatening Fortnite. You can still launch CS 1.6 next to CS2. SKG itself started because of some obscure racing game. >>737509080>>737512036All IP-related law is already pure government interference contradicting pure property. It's nonsensical to pretend that securing customer access to the thing the government is granting monopoly to is some additional hindrance.
>>737514698thor told me it was bad so it must be hes sooo smart and hes worked in aaa game dev so he knows what hes talking about
>>737508327Then get off your ass and do it or don't. Doesn't effect me.
>>737508887The argument's been spouted and refuted so many times that no human being could possibly believe it's about making companies support games forever.So it's not worth letting it get to you, it's pure ragebaiting
>anons don't read and follow the EULA they agreed to when buying the game that states when service is terminated they must destroy any physical copies they have of a game
>>737510438Online games will soon require ID verification anyway. Sony is already implementing it.
>>737507948Shalom
>>737516157Roblox players are terrified of such a concept.
>>737516131I didn't sign thatSomeone else clicked accept
>>737512817An always online game will never be a game I like.
>>737516272Nobody mentioned signing anything.
>>737516131The EULA is presented after the purchase, thus it doesn't carry any weight whatsoever.
>>737516369>just renege on terms you agreed to to use a productDo you routinely lie and cheat people in other aspects of your life?
>>737514931Yeah it'd be terrible. That movie is so bad it's goodAnd those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it
>>737516469Keep crying, the eula is still worthless.
Someday I hope /v/'s corporate dicksucking in the name of shitposting and making people mad without any conviction behind it will be turned around on them.
>>737514698Contrarians who want people to suffer and false flagers like >>737509553 who want to make this a /pol/shit topic to cause infighting and are on the corpo shill payroll to do it.
>>737514698I want people to suffer.
>>737509583You seem like a particularly retarded faggot.
>>737514698They aren't. It's paid opposition and regular trolling.
I need another retarded analogy to make this look bad, the beer keg wasn't that good
>>737514698There is a downside.>get addicted to live service game>play only it>want to stop but can't because addicted>servers shut down>now can't play>no longer addicted>now freeWithout keeping the status quo, I won't be able to control myself.
>>737508968>taking down a mob boss for tax evasionThat's how Al Capone got fucked.
>>737511730ferret fucker is not a tranny tho
>>737508321Hi Jason, you're so unlikable that even Chronos, your biggest dickrider, hates you now. Good going, faggot!
>>737509080>I simply don't want to be monkey paw'd on more gov regulationYour opinions were made for you by the Jewish elite. Regulating corpos is a good thing.
>anime girl pastas>blatant bait>attempts at derailing>demoralizing and "why bother???">"you're commies!!!!">"STOP STOP STOP the EU is going to make things worse!!!!!!!">"hmmm you want devs to support games forever????" and other bullshit that has been asked and answered 1 million times already>"this is not vidya related go to /pol/">dumping actual CP>when that doesn't work, dumping nude selfies and gay porn>"this entire thing is reddit">"there's no way this goes before EU parliament, signatures will dry up at 1 million">"these signatures are all botted">DDOSing>"you just want to profit off of poor devs work">"EU parliament will dismiss this">"shouldn't we be focusing on more important things like [insert other political talking point here]">"you're all hypocrites!!!">"this is basically gamergate 2.0, they will never support this">"the EU will ignore it">"they will just draft some ineffectual law if anything">even MORE claims that something literally talking about the gaming industry isn't vidya related>"t-this is eceleb shilling! buy an ad!">"they will just put a disclaimer on the box, that's it">"the extra burden is too much on poor devs">"there is no regulation needed, just don't buy it [because that has worked for the past 20 years, lol]">unironic ancap retards crying and stamping their feet>"what about the VISA/Mastercard scandal!!!">"hmm you actually are using a government apparatus as intended? is this not silly?">"he looks unprofessional! Nobody will take this seriously!"YOU ARE HERE:>"You can't regulate corporations because... um... YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY?!"Months later, they are still seething. How did one moldman do it?
>>737512437You don't have to.Your opinion doesn't matter to europe (just like it doesn't matter in your own country).
>>737509080If kikes really wanted to force it through, they would no matter your opinion. Retards like you who think all government bad give other Americans like me a bad name. Government is a tool that you need to fight tooth and nail for control over so this exact thing doesn't happen. Not just give it up to kikes and 5th columnists.
>>737516469Careful, you're saying games are products to make your argument. Your corporate masters dont like that
>>737508321I read this exact same post in one of the previous threads. Shut up and kill yourself, shill.
>>737517520>>dumping actual CPNEVER let them forget it.
>>737507852why are they so antisemetic???
>>737517520That man of mold has golden mouldy heart.
>>737507948>NOOOO! you cant just protect those dumb goys!No amount of excuses with chickens and goats will save you from divine judgement, kike.
>>737518031CP for SKG and animal abuse for threat interactive. Never forget.
>>737509553You paid for the game, you didn't pay for the servers that host them, the developer does that. If I make an online game, am I now forced to spend the rest of my life paying for the servers? If that's the case, then why the fuck would anyone ever make an online game? It's a waste of money.I'm not against you getting your money back to some degree, since the developer didn't tell you the game would one day disappear, but the opposite is also true: it's an online game, so you should know it might not be around forever. If you bought the game late when it was dying or bought it and then didn't play it until you found out it was going offline, isn't that your fault? Why should I empathize with you when you're a retard?I don't think you can force developers to keep unsustainable games alive without developers simply refusing to ever make online games again. By going forward with this, you're the one killing games, because making an online game is too risky, only AAA developers would ever even attempt it.A better alternative is to get rid of IP laws. If a developer can no longer service their customers with their game, then the game should go into the public domain and the players themselves can host or update them if they care so much. But putting a gun to someone's head and telling them to keep paying for servers for an old, shitty game isn't ethical.>>737509662Economic freedom is what makes countries wealthy. If you want poor, stupid people to be able to afford stuff they don't deserve, you should go give them the money yourself. Using the threat of violence to force smart, hard-working people to carry their useless asses is how you make a second world country.Without getting into biology.
>>737507852Wow, amazing. Give the fucking government and European Union who wants you raped and replaced by blacks more power over you and the things you love.This will eventually come around to bite every single retard who signed for it in the ass, and you will have no one to blame for it but your own selves.
>>737518472Say that again, I dare you
>>737518472>But putting a gun to someone's head and telling them to keep paying for servers for an old, shitty game isn't ethical.but SKG never said that? you have no idea what you are talking about
>>737518510Consumer protections are literally the only thing the EU has done consistently right
>>737508167It's a consumer rights issue you dumb faggot.
>>737518472>hurrdurr you want devs to pay for games foreverOh look the exact same dumb shit that has been refuted a million times already. But you'd know that if you weren't an obvious corporate shill.
>>737507852They will just use this to force age verification or worse, full ID validation for all users in all games.They of course will not give a single fuck about "games preservation" or moralistic piracy.Thor was right.
>>737518607>>737518650Alright so tell me what they actually want to happen.
>>737516575No, but I genuinely believe the EU makes europe worse, so I don't need them to have more top-down centralized control over anything.
>>737507852Pirate Software used to be in the industry and warned you retards what would happen if this retarded movement gets any traction (which it won't).I hope you all get exactly what you asked for, and nothing that you wanted.
>>737509680Im jewish btw
>>737518683They want to eat youre foreskin
>>737518683>doesnt know what SKG is about >wrote a wall of text to whine about how ownership is ruining societyYou love to see it.
>>737518683If you actually did cursory research on the initiative, your dumb nigger babble is answered within a few moments. But you're not here to honestly engage because you're being paid by a handler, are a useful retard, or both.
>>737518617you don't deserve any rights
>>737518683>writes a wall of text>cannot even google itlowiq post
>it will never get enough votes!>the votes are botted!>nothing will happen!>...>Ross dressed poorly for his hearing in the European Parlaiment!Shills have failed every step of the way. Never let them forget.
>>737518683For you, dumb motherfucker, to be able to host the game locally. Yes, even you, you inbred sodomite. You piece of shit.
>>737507852what's the catch?
>>737507852>yes daddy gubment, force our companies to divulge their server architecture trade secrets so china can steal more of our inventionsThis is why the EU will forever be irrelevant regarding innovation and just act as another economic zone to plunder.
>>737508746If you don't keep the severs on for the game you made then you go to jail.
>>737510606Yeah just like #stopasianhate being centered around attacking whites instead of the blackoids comitting all the hate crimes
>>737518790>>737518803I don't pay attention to every stupid thing Europoors are doing and I don't use social media because I'm not brown. That doesn't mean I can't speak about the issue hypothetically.Neither of you answered my question. Good job. I wonder why that is.
>>737507948>natural selection is... le good actually!No. We gotta protect the dumbfucks.
>>737518927Look up the initiative. I'm not here to be your personal nanny, fuckboy, and if you had done that instead of writing your gay ass thesis you'd know how retarded you sound.
>>737518898sounds like something a bunch of spoiled children would come up with>weeeh mommy candy jar it empty now i ate it all>if you don't buy me more and make sure it full all yea around, it mean you hate me and i hope you fucking die>i will call CPS and tell them you abuse me for not giving me what i want weeehhh
>>737518858I refuse.>>737518875But that's what I said they should do in my own post. Why did all of you Muslims rage at my post instead of saying, "Yeah, that is what they want."
>>737519020Because you came in with the exact same shill talking points that had been answered 5 million times already. Until you stop sounding like a nigger we're going to keep pointing and laughing at you.
>>737519020Pray in the direction of the Kaabah mongrel.
>>737518927>That doesn't mean I can't speak about the issue hypotheticallyExcept the only issue here is that your hypothetical is just flat out wrong on the most basic level>Durr I wonder why you didnt spoonfeed meBecause I know what you are, corposhill. I know trying to reason with and educate you is pointless.
>>737508167Make a petition if you feel strongly about something
This kills the shill.
>>737519069But I ended with "they should give the game to the players."
>>737519000Trips of truth.
The nation of Finland exerted its power when we needed them the most.
>>737519121For free
>>737519000TRVKE
>>737507948t. Yves Guillemot
>>737518927>>737519020>>737518472>I dont know what SKG is about>I refuse to do my research >Im still going to spew corporate talking points thoughshills really are such revolting creatures
>>737507948saar if scam you then you deserve it I have bigger izzat
>>737519000>food analogyretarded amerifat alert
>>737507852>Turns out you might have rights.This confuses and enrages the american.
>>737519000>sounds like spoiled childrenp much
>>737519218((((they)))) become much less subtle when they're openly losing, from shadowy masters to cornered rats in the blink of an eye
>See? We are the good guys! So stop complaining about getting replaced by third-worlders and your country being turned into an economic zone!
Infinite hassanate for habibi Ross I say
>>737519269the things you vote for right now is what the immigrants that will replace you will come to enjoy and take advantage of instead of you and your descendants
>>737519101>>737519218>shillI said they should remove IP laws, how is that a corpo stance?
>>737519380Should have voted with your wallet sir
>>737509080>follow whatever bullshit rules they're going to come up withyou mean releasing the files you use to run the server, without any addition documentation or work if you don't want to, and then continuing to close down the game?>b-b-but muh proprietary code!!!I didn't say you need to release the source code nigger, give out binaries>b-b-but that is so much extra workhow the fuck are you running the server without having done that already?anyone who doesn't understand that these things already exist and need to be made for people to even connect to the game in the first placeall the fucking survival crafting games you see release their server binaries so you can host your own servers, they are the same ones used for official servers, most of them have their server browser just be steam as well and you can just use direct IP connection if that stopped working as wellif these dozens of indie games can still do this in 2026 and games have been doing it since their inception than every other fucking company can do it too
>>737519380>I said anti-corpo thing! Ignore how 95% of my posts are the same obviously wrong corporate shill talking points against SKG!the sad thing is that you're stupid enough to fall for this tactic yourself. Which is why you're trying it here against others smarter than you
>This game I bought says it can be discontinued after 60 days notice was given and then 10 years later it was and um I dont like that :(Complete waste of time. For everyone.
>>737518927So get out of the thread nigger. Do you also shitpost in threads about games you've never heard of?You are so fucking stupid.
>>737519556I'm having a great time actually
>>737519000Yeah, and?Corporations don't have rights.
>>737519556Autists have no concept of just growing up and moving on from shit.
>>737509357Unregulated corpos are the reason the economy is fucked ine first place.
>>737519556I'm having a blast returning to form and forcing my will through the EU government actually. Maybe you just need to play a bit longer, it gets good 500 hours in.
>>737519556You're going to prison if you don't keep those servers up, sucker.
>>737510438Hi jason
>>737519547My points aren't wrong, though. SKG would agree with everything in my post. That's why they ended at the same logical conclusion as me.>>737519628Fine, I'll leave. Enjoy these guys >>737519556>>737519000
>>737507852>The "right" to force other people to labor for you that they never agreed toWhy am I supposed to support you niggers in class war again?
>>737516698You seem like a shill.
>>737519341Is that why lefties vote for obviously bad policies? They don't have kids so they know it's just going to be a bunch of brown people who have to suffer them.
Can't wait to whip malnourished devs chained to the ground in server mines so I can play Obscure Shit Game 2 forever
>>737519769>SKG would agree with everything in my post.>am I now forced to spend the rest of my life paying for the servers? You tried, corposhill. But the thing is you're just too stupid and dare I say, too green for this. Subversion requires more than a single throwaway line at the end of a rant
>>737519790How about when you drop support for the game I fucking paid for, I get a full refund adjusted for inflation, deducted straight from your bank account, faggot?
>>737519790Using the government to force your way sounds based to me, actually. We should've been doing this way sooner and on more issues.
>>737511495>Uhm regulations for corpos is bad actually!
>>737519790The government is my weapon and you are the target. Better implement a way to comply with the law, pussy.
>>737518927>That doesn't mean I can't speak about the issue hypothetically.That's exactly what it means. Either read up about it or shut you gorilla retarded mouth.
>>737519972you're not entitle to free labor and updates that cost the developers upward to extra hundreds of thousands of dollars just because you paid like 60 dollars once and that's it.you played the game when you bought it, got your enjoyment out of it and that's it. you provide zero extra income as incentive for the working people to put in any extra work to deliver something to you for free when they ultimately get nothing from it in return.
>>737507852YawnI'll wait until there is actual legislation worth a damn. The EU does not care about its citizen.
>>737511531damn, but being a ferret rapist is the best thing in this world
>>737520219Stop designing planned obsolesence into your products then. Because I am entitled to a product that works after I spend money to purchase it for my use
>>737520340Open your asshole, now
>>737511081He's the first second gen Blizzard developer.
>>737518893>don't force us to divulge our precious docker compose files!
>>737519790Maybe we should abolish the FDA as well, since cleaning up rat feces in restaurants is forced labor the owners didn't agree to.
>>737520219this "problem" was solved well over twenty years ago, ut99 shipped with a dedicated server executable, for example
>>737520219Sorry, but when you sell a product you don't get to take it away after an arbitrary date. Skirting a grey area not looked at before doesn't make you any less in violation of consumer law.You're simply wrong and it seems the EU agrees.
>>737519790>developers are no longer forced to develop elaborate kill switches for their gamesActually, this will force devs to work LESS. Something incomprehensible to a boot-strapping American, I'm sure.
>>737520219I am entitled to playing the game I paid for long after you're bankrupt and hang yourself. No "always online" DRM bullshit, no online activation, even for singleplayer mode.
>>737507948I want unishit suffer.EU has the power to do that.It's as simple as that.Of course call center jeet like you wouldn't understand.
>>737507852i still love that a game as forgettable and irrelevant as the crew was one of the sparks that ignited this firetotal dev death, you should be forced to support all your shitty always online dead games forever as punishment for making shitty always online dead games, it's a pity that stop killing games is giving you turbo double niggerfaggots an easy offramp in allowing you to let people just host their own server instances instead of putting you all in the pillory for public shaming and forced labor
>>737509080I really want to be able to make money poisoning children's food with arsenic, but the government won't let me :(
>>737520703>food analogyburgers really can't help themselves, huh
>>737520219pirate software ahh argument
>>737520471Yes?>restaurant 1: yeah, not cleaning shit>customer 1: oh, this place is terribly unclean, not eating here again>customer 2: let's find an alternative>restaurant 2: we clean shit here>C1: oh, this place is cleaner but could be better>R2: eh, yeah, we clean but not everything>R1: hey, come back! we clean now and better than 2>C2: oh yeah, that's true, i'm eating there now>R2: no! we will clean better!>now everything is cleanThat is what happens when you make companies compete without government nannying. The current system only rewards massive corporations who can eat the penalties and fines.
You VVILL go bankrupt for several generations so I can play my game forever.
>>737520773nice, econ101but perhaps you should check whether the axioms of rational choice actually hold true in practice
>>737520773By your logic the ones that can eat the fines are still dirty while the ones that can not are clean. One will be avoided while the other thrives, right?Nothing changes, so what are you complaining about?
>>737520773You might have had a point if all customers were allowed to tour the kitchen before deciding to eat at a place.
Hang on a second, why are the past like, 50 posts parroting the “forcing devs to support their games forever” line when it was already established to not at all be what SKG is asking for?It’s asking for devs to include offline modes, give users the tools to set up their own servers, or otherwise make it so that the game is still playable once you STOP supporting it.
>>737508167Just because you like getting fucked in the ass doesn't mean we all do.
>>737521268they're called paid shills dumbass
Can someone please explain to me how SKG is supposed to work for console games?I keep hearing the excuse of "you can just release the files and let people host private servers bro!" but this is functionally impossible on consoles.Say Nintendo shuts down the servers for, let's say, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sometime in the 2030s. What is the law expecting them to do in such a scenario? They have to completely overhaul the game and their online infrastructure to allow random people anywhere in the world to host private Mario Kart servers that they can do anything with?Or what about old, defunct consoles? What happens with PS3 games that have their online shutdown post-SKG?All the solutions seem fit only for PC games and literally nobody, not even the lawmakers, is giving consideration to how it works on consoles. Consoles have always used matchmaking of some kind, "dedicated servers" just aren't really a thing.
>>737521268I wonder why... it's not as if every SKG thread has been filled with the same attempts at astroturfing for months now.
>>737520773>That is what happens when you make companies compete without government nannying.It's a nice fantasy. What happens in the real world however, is a much less pleasant race to the bottom>restaurant 1: yeah, not cleaning shit>customer 1: oh, this place is terribly unclean, not eating here again>customer 2: let's find an alternative>restaurant 2: yeah, not cleaning shit>C1: hey why is this place dirty too?>R2: All places are dirty, retard. We're not going to put in the extra money to clean it up when we dont need to>R3: yeah. Get used it because we're not cleaning shit. If you dont like it, go elsewhere>R4: Not cleaning shit. The fuck you gon do, cracka?>R5: We no clean! No need to!>R6: No cleaning saar! Too expensive saar!And so on.
Good ending>The Crew shuts down>Shit taste gamer tries playing something decide such as Chrono Trigger>Gets good tasteBad ending>Ubisoft releases an offline mode for The Crew>Shit taste gamer continues to play The Crew
>>737521268>past like, 50 posts parroting the “forcing devs to support their games forever” lineBro they have done that since the initiative launched. They're poisoning the well of discussion and will repeat the same shit when this thread dies and another pops up.Either ignore them or laugh at them. Engaging in good faith is useless.
>>737521351Because it works the exact same way on cucksoles, my tech illiterate zoom zoom.
>>737521268For these past few decades, people have been systematically trained to make a choice and never back down regardless of facts or opinions.
>>737507948>retards should get punished for being retardsthis is exactly what this is for. Or are you implying corporations aren't retards?
>>737521481It doesn't, retard. How do you host a private server on a Nintendo Switch game?
Okay, I am being fr fr here, why the fuck does /v/ hate stop killing games?
>>737521583Contrarianism and some legit libertarians
>>737521556How, indeed...
>>737521556>press "Create lobby/host game/invite friend">play gameDude do you even play video games? Like at all? Your shilling is pitifully bad.
>>737521583Because I don't trust politicians to implement its demands without turning it into some absolutely cack-handed legislation that makes things worse in the long run.
>>737521651THIS IS PIRACYRESPECT THE LAW CUMSKIN
>>737521351It depends on how a potential SKG law is worded, but judging by what Ross has said with how he think it should work and what most people who support SKG seem to want, something like Mario Kart 8 would already be complying with SKG because it has local offline multiplayer
>>737521556>How do you host a private server on a Nintendo Switch game?Do you think there's some kind of magic code that lets people connect to official servers, and not privately run ones? The restriction is completely artificial and can be removed at any time if required by law.
>>737521697>CUMSKINkek
Remember, the hypocrites still haven't given a rebuttal for this common argument:>if government regulations are bad, and SKG can never ever be good, then repeal copyright law and let people pirate and copy games as much as they wantGo on, refute that.
>>737521693>Change might be bad so instead I choose to let companies legally steal from meWhat a genius, high IQ way of thinking.
>wasting resources on digital toysthey should be solving real problems like my lack of an anthro cat gf
>>737521651You need hacked consoles to run shit like that.>>737521678If that's all the movement is asking for then it MIGHT be workable for consoles, but the way people in this thread talk it's as if you expect every company must be forced to release all their server code against their will so that some random shitter from Eastern Europe can do whatever he wants with it.>>737521720Then you're confusing people with these threads. Many of you talk as if you specifically want ONLINE SERVERS to remain online, not just the games in general.If SKG is solely about multiplayer-only live-service games, then I don't understand how it even gets so much traction, cause that only affects maybe 1% of total games overall.I've seen people in these threads who seem to expect SKG will stop companies from delisting games or will give them the right to own all games forever rather than just a "license". The whole thing just feels totally confused as if none of its supporters can agree on what it's about.
>>737521843I don't play live-service games so I have literally never been affected by the shit that SKG is supposedly proposing to address.
>>737520219>you're not entitle to free labor and updatesyeah actually i am
>>737509080>Say I wanted to release a gameYeah this is the American mindset to a T>hmmm this law will make 99.9999999% of people better off but will slightly inconvenience billionaires? >one day I will definitely be a billionaire as well so I will vote against it so when I become a billionaire I will be 1% richer
>>737521937>I'm fully against this thing that doesn't affect me and feel strongly that corporations should be allowed to steal from othersKill yourself, shill
>retards should get punished for being retardsIf that were the law you'd be dead, retard.
>>737521887>but the way people in this thread talk it's as if you expect every company must be forced to release all their server code against their willThey're not. You're willfully ignorant and engaging in discussion when you don't know shit.There's a website that explains plainly what skg wants to achieve plus multitudes of videos explaining it fruther. You have no excuse yet continue to be a retard on /v/.I hope you're being paid for this.
>>737521887>Many of you talk as if you specifically want ONLINE SERVERS to remain online, not just the games in general.How many times have you tried this psyop in this thread? And what makes you think it'll work this time?
>>737522020N-no not like that
>>737521859You know, I'm not a furry but I can see the visionWill they take custom orders?
>>737521887The only one confused about any of this is you.
>>737508139Stop using other people's kids as an excuse to go on a power trip you dirty little spinster.
>>737522021>There's a website that explains plainly what skg wants to achieve plus multitudes of videos explaining it fruther. You have no excuse yet continue to be a retard on /v/.Then why don't people in these threads stick to what SKG actually says?You've got people over here >>737521794 who seemingly want to use this as a springboard for an anti-copyright movement in general.Everybody seems to be projecting what they want onto the movement. Some people just want to prevent Concord-style total shutdown of games. Some people want it to be illegal to ever remove online functionality at all, even if single-player or local multiplayer is still available.
>>737521887>The whole thing just feels totally confused as if none of its supporters can agree on what it's about.Why does this line look so familiar? If I searched these terms in the archive, will I find a few dozen posts by you retards acting confused while trying to muddy the waters?
>>737522039There are literally pro-SKG people in this thread saying exactly that right now:>>737508423>>737508543>>737508579
>>737522147>Yeah SKG has a website and says what they want but I have this anon in this thread saying that he wants something different, checkmate!You are so fucking stupid, holy shit. Go suck some dicks, jesus christ.
>>737522147>Some people want it to be illegal to ever remove online functionality at all, even if single-player or local multiplayer is still available.>even if single-player or local multiplayer is still available.Those people exist in your script, jeet. Not in this thread
>>737518472>You paid for the game, you didn't pay for the servers that host them, the developer does thatOk. Then let me host my own servers.
>>737522147There's no nice way to put this, but you seem borderline (actually) retarded and should probably stop posting before embarrassing yourself further.
>>737522147You don't understand what SKG wants so you don't need to concern yourself with what others want it to be. Why do you care what someone in a random thread wants anyway?The EU has received SKG's intentions and views them positively.
>>737508321Why is it the people so vehemently arguing against SKG have absolutely no clue what it actually entails?>Game companies aren't being asked to support games into perpetuity, just to let other people do so>They're not asked to revive dead games either, it's not retroactive
You mean to tell me if you properly explain your argument, people listen without making up retarded shit of why your movement is bad?
>>737522210In order>nothing says that>nothing says that>nothing says that
>>737507948third worlders trying not to be subhumans challenge, impossible!
moldman
>>737522341>Sure we're making up retarded shit of why your movement is bad>But that's entirely your fault! you didnt explain properly!>it's totally not like we're getting paid to do this!What surprises me is that Babel media actually gets contracts when this pitiful display is the best they can do
>>737522320Feigning ignorance is a good tool when you want to stagnate an active discussion or make it run in circles.What I don't get is why they still bother when swaying public opinion clearly has no effect anymore. You think someone left their automatic payment on for their shill campaign? Has to be something like that.
>>737507948The only retard here is you, using this shitty excuse to let companies do what ever they want.
>>737509080lollmao
>>737522308>The EU has received SKG's intentions and views them positively.And I don't trust them to implement them into law correctly. It's as simple as that.I fear we're going to get stuck with some law that is basically so onerous and stupid it kills entire swathes of the industry. Like consoles as we know it being killed because their infrastructure isn't built to provide for free dedicated-server access for each game. Or indie devs basically quitting making anything with any online features because they don't have the resources to cope with the new legislation.
>>737522560>And I don't trust them to implement them into law correctly.Brother you've proven yourself to be a retard who can't be bothered to read the official statement of an initiative. No one cares what you think.
>>737522320>>Game companies aren't being asked to support games into perpetuity, just to let other people do soBut again you aren't being clear.I was given the example that if something like Mario Kart 8 shut down it would still be okay because it can be played offline even in the event of a server shutdown.Now you're telling me that actually isn't sufficient and that Nintendo would be required to let randoms host private servers, PC-style.Which is it? Is offline play sufficient to cope with the regulations or not?
>>737521351Xbox Live, Nintendo Online and PS Plus are already explicitly subscription service that works for X amount of time.Something that moldman himself says he couldn't do shit about it.
>>737508534That's what izzat is and that's why these kinds of posts always come from India.
>>737522560>I fear we're going to get stuck with some law that is basically so onerous and stupid it kills entire swathes of the industry. Like consoles as we know it being killed because their infrastructure isn't built to provide for free dedicated-server access for each game. Or indie devs basically quitting making anything with any online features because they don't have the resources to cope with the new legislation.>large swathes of the industry that rely on planned obsolesence and reselling will die>consoles will develop new infrastructure that lets players host local servers>indies will have to give up their always online MTX dreams and put out actual gamesIt's funny how even your fearmongering script has nothing but good things for gaming in it
>>737507852Property rights are the only rights that matter
>>737521794Sure thing. Not all government regulations are bad. That was easy.
But the retards told me he would be laughed out of court, instead some foid representative started making cake is le lie jokes and everyone agreed with him
>>737520773I make my lemonade from piss.
>>737521843>I choose to let companies legally steal from meYou did? Why? It has never happened to me. Why did you allow it to happen to you? Are you stupid?
>>737508604Not every American is a retard who voted for Trump and thinks the government doing something (other than sucking off Israel) will lead to a 1984 dystopian future.Some of us weren’t forcefed cold war propaganda and don’t watch PragerU/Louder With Crowder for educational purposes. We actually understand companies need to be regulated.btw I don’t want people thinking I’m liberal, because I support fascism.
>>737522507Advertising services are purchased on a contractual basis. Even after the hearing and the public has decided on their stance of not wanting to get fucked by corpos, the shills still have to do their job and try muddle discussions because their contract isnt complete yet
>>737522810So you admit that this is about a lot more than just stopping Concord-style shutdowns?
>>737522713This. From the perspective of the corpos, if providing server software for your online game is such a big fucking deal and such an impossible ask, just make it an explicit subscription with no base game purchase. Problem solved, SKG bypassed.
>>737522950yeah it's about stopping crew-style shutdowns.
>>737522560Oh look, this retard is still posting his niggerspeak in the thread. Not a big surprise.
>>737522914Fool. You could make much more if you diluted your piss with water.
>>737522010Steal? Huh? You can't own a service, so you can't have it stolen from you.
>>737508167Keep seething, its all you have left
>>737508321>never heard of ‘grandfathered in’
>>737522147Well said
>>737508167Nothing else the government can do is more important and impactful than this.
>>737521438Notice how he stopped responding after this, jew shills will never acknowledge enshittification in the ((((free)))) market
>>737508375you can punish them by not purchasing the game. not too difficult
>>737507852i suspect this might encourage publishers to push live service. the terms of a GAAS title is different to that of a standard licence, your access is only active for as long as your subscription and can be terminated at any time.
>>737523240I think I will choose to punish them directly instead.
>>737511004>server binariesyou have no idea what that means or how netcode works
>>737523240We can punish them harder with this
>>737523240Nah, we've tried it your way for the past 20 years, now we do it our way, bitch. Get regulated.
>>737523259That's definitely a way this could be monkey-paw'd, yeah.SKG could result in the final and total death of any games with non-GAAS style multiplayer because it just becomes too difficult for many devs to cope with the new regulations.
>>737523312your time is better spent playing good games instead of crying about ubislop
>>737523373>Nah, we've tried it your way for the past 20 yearsobviously not since you're crying about slop you purchased like the crew
>>737523385>it would totally be the death of games that allow you to self-host, dudeWhat kind of retarded ass backwards logic is this? Retarded fucking shill.
>>737520471Unsanitary conditions will directly lead to harm, or even death, completely unsuspected. That's why the FDA exists. Your online toy no longer working is simply an inconvienence that can be entirely avoided by being an intellegent consumer.
>>737523395I play good games and for a single vote 1.5 years ago I get to see publishers punished for being anti-consumers and see shills cry impotently.I have already won.
>>737523240Ah yes this totally works
>>737509553“People” you are talking about are either>Indians being paid 0.70 cents a post>American Golems who thinks banning child labor is akin to Communism or some dystopian society>Jews paying the Street Shitters and tricked the Golems into being against laws that benefit everyone who isn’t Jewish
>>737523442And yet you're the retarded bootlicker crying about a consumer movement for the past 15 posts or however the fuck long you've been here.Shills aren't sending their best I see.
>>737523467Not talking about self-hosting, I'm talking about games that use matchmaking but are still technically not a GAAS and are sold as premium products.Something like Splatoon for instance.
>>737523541Correct, it works.
>>737523630Sounds like those developers should un-shittify their products then and go back to browsers and self-hosted lobbies like every other game that existed before that cancerous practice.
>>737507852They will use this as ammo for digital verification somehow.
>>737509080American here, this guy is obviously from Commiefornia
>>737523680>can't even edit properly Stick with AI Rajeesh
>>737507948>This is a bad thing because my boss might lose out on 0.023% of revenue now that he can't fuck people over anymoreBoth of you should be burned.
>>737518472>I now forced to spend the rest of my life paying for the servers? If that's the case, then why the fuck would anyone ever make an online game? It's a waste of money.I wish it was like that, it would have been 10x funnier and it would still be a net positive at the end of the day (live serviceslop dies, complete offline games still alive)
>>737523476Just eat at a clean restaurant you retard
>>737523883>no rebuttalI accept your concession.
>>737521583that's jtf mob
>>737523725>tfw part of the few countries that still resist this>tfw a recent hack and mass lawsuit perfectly illustrates why digital verification actually puts people in dangerI can only pray this stems the tide
>>737523992No thanks. I don't have the training or experience to evaluate unsanitary food service conditions. Nor can I make this evaluation from simply entering the establishment. I would prefer a federally regulated committee be involved that regularity inspects and grades whether or not establishments meet sanitary conditions, and then I can determine from that grade if I will eat there, since my life may be at stake.
>>737507852Having rights is communism.
>>737514698Anything that makes trannies seethe is worth encouraging. I don't play multiplayer troon shit so it doesn't affect me.
>>737515646WHO CAN IT BEEEEE NOW
>>737521794>property right are bad mmmkaySure thing commie
This probably won't be a savior for gamers or an apocalypse for game studios. It won't become a big drama, people will simply forget about it.
>>737522854Then SKG is good, unless you can argue otherwise.
>>737523476It could also not be such an inconvenience, which is what SKG aims to do.
>>737524827Sure thing. SKG is unnecessary. Your move.
>>737524993Scummy corporations aren't taken out back and given the ol' Yeller treatment, so unfortunately it IS necessary.
i wonder if anyone actually thinks this is bad or if it's just all industry bots and plants
>>737524902Or you could recognize that services can end, and you can't prevent this innevatibility outside of making services illegal, which is too unpractical and damaging to the indistry.
>>737525049I disagree. Your move.
>>737507948Never forget that casinos actually tried to make the argument that protecting people from being fleeced for all they are worth and ending up broken and destitute was a gross infringement of civil liberty.
>>737525127>making services illegal would damage the industryGood, I'm sick of you shills trying to push for games as a service. Burn it to the ground.
>>737507852>tfw you know some people are against this and its not bait, they are genuinely retarded
>>737513306Spending money on essential things can also lead to people dying.
>>737525127>Or you could recognize that services can endWhich is what SKG is about. You wanna provide a service then sell a service, and not a product that could randomly stop working a month after someone bought it.
>>737525310Sorry you feel that way.
>>737525427I don't make any games at all.
>>737525452>>737525168>passive aggressive reddit commentsoh yeah, the shills are desperate.
>>737522661It really is not that difficult to understand unless you're deliberately pretending to not understand solely to be a shitposting tranny.
Ferretfucker status?
>>737525492And how is that relevant to the argument?
>>737525565DAZEDREELINGABOUT TO BREAKand most of his twitch/shitcord jannies just quit on him
>>737525505Glad to be done speaking with you.
>>737525578>>737525427>You wanna provide a service
>>737525565You can't own a service, or any PC games in general, nor is SKG attempting to provide ownership to consumers.
>>737525839Do you know language?
>>737525951Yeah. Do you?
>>737508139Jej, why the fuck would I not have already taught my kid not to be a retard? Let me guess, you've never been a parent.
>>737507948Retards being punished for being retards is fineSlimy kikes profiting off of it is not
>>737526032I don't think you do, at least not English.
>>737508167He pointed out a problem and people rallied behind it because they cared. If they didn't care about other problems that people have made a platform for then guess what? That means those other problems aren't as important as video games. Get owned.
>>737526250I'm sorry you feel that way.
>>737507852>there was no that wasn'tPC Gamer is so fucking cringe. Why do they hire illiterate writers?
>>737511394Europe is going Linux+Open Source (see Germany and France) so there's a chance your wish might come true.
>>737507948My hatred of jews far outweighs my hatred for retards.
>>737508534>Its the goys fault for falling for it!Yes...? I thought whitey was the most smartest, most bestest race of human around. If you let yourself fall for scams concocted by lesser races, is that not entirely your fault? Hold on- you ARE white, correct??
>>737507948>you should have listened to me when I called you a faggot for buying it in the first placeKineau
