Sega took no risks here. It's a very safe sequel
>>737528069why fix what isn't broken?
What do you mean? They added an entire playable homosexual character
>>737528069It was supposed to be a lot more ambitious than it ended up being, they cut like half the game.
>>737528069And it's one of the best games in the series.
>>737528505Yet only because every single 3D game that isn't Sonic R is so bad, making any 2D game made pre-3D era at least high mid by default
>>737528485And we got CD which was an unsafe sequel and everybody hates it.
>>737528687It wouldn't have had any of the stuff CD is hated for like the sloppy level design and generator hunting, it was just going to be a bigger Sonic 2 with the level themes changing based on Sonic time traveling throughout the story.
>>737528069Literally the best 2D Sonic game of all time. Cope.
>>737528687>everybody hates it.
Why are there so many autists on this board that post the same exact thread over and overkill yourselves
>>737530015Retarded attention starved losers here get mad when their threads don't reach bump limit so they keep making them over and over until /v/ "likes them" enough to start posting consistently in them
>>737528069>What is the first same day worldwide release for a video game aka Sonic 2's day?Sonic 2 actually had time travel mechanics in its development but they had to scrap that plan to rush it for the holiday launch
>>7375298603K > 1 > 2 > CD
>>737528236They added OP?
I wouldn't necessarily call it a "safe" game design wise. Play Sonic 1 and then Sonic 2. They are different games.Sonic 2 is a game designed around the marketing of Sonic 1; ie a game about speed. Out of all of Sonic's 2D games, Sonic 2 is the game that most encapsulates "hold right to win".
>>737530015I don't know if it's more autistic to make similar threads weeks/months apart or remember the threads from weeks apart and track them down to screen cap them. I am going with the latter.
>>737529963People acted like it was the best when it was niche, once it became more widely available everyone rightly started shitting on it.
>>737528687it was my favorite Sonic game as a kid.t. owned a Sega CD
>>737530598>Out of all of Sonic's 2D games, Sonic 2 is the game that most encapsulates "hold right to win".I assume you mean the classic 4 gamesBecause Advance 2 and the Rush games would like a word with youEven that piece of shit Mania which is basically Sonic 2 but the levels go on forever(just like most fangames)At least Sonic 2's levels aren't overly long without nothing going on for them
3&K > Mania > 2 > 1 > CD
>>737530661They shat on it because it wasn't like 1-2-3KCD is still a really good game with its biggest flaw being that if you play the game normally like you would with 1/2/3K the levels end up feeling underwhelming, but if you actually go after the robot generators and going to the past and good future(or if you're doing a bad future run) that's where it shinesThe Taxman remasters are kinda ass thoughIn fixing the collision detection issues and changing the physics for the Sonic 2 style spindash some of the places where you could easily time travel in OG Sonic CD now don't work which changes how you play the game
>>737530575Kek
>>7375307913K > 1 > 2 > CD > Advance 1 > ManiaMania is so horribly overratedThe level design is samey and boring, and the fact you can't hit the bosses for a while is gay as fuck
>>737528069Retarded post. Sonic 2 is an absolute refinement and enhancement. It got rid of the fat of Sonic 1's platforming and hyperfocused on what made Sonic so unique, introduced a new mechanic which is now a bedrock of the gameplay (spindash), 2 player capability with a new character and the iconic Super Sonic transformation. It's what every sequel should aspire to be and in a lot of ways it completely replaced Sonic 1 in the minds of the masses because it was such a perfectly executed follow up that just straight up enhanced and solidified the concept, making the original seem like a prototype and relegating Sonic CD to an off brand sideshow. In fact if it wasn't so good we wouldn't have fucking retards like you trying to go against set in stone history 34 years later.
>>737530525Lmao no
how many people here actually played it at release, or at least on genesis at some point? christ, i'm 43, and i remember being in 5th grade when it came out.besides, how can you cunt at them for 'not taking risks' when like 2 years later they released sonic and knuckles with that cool adapter that let you plug in other sonic games? that was a risk jeet.
>>737531461CopeIt's the objective ranking
>>737528069>Way more levels>No save system>Special stages suck>Your reward for getting all the emeralds is a non-zero chance to launch yourself off the level because Super Saiyan is mapped to the fucking jump buttonI like a lot about 2 but a lot of it also sucks dick
>>737528069>Slow platforming sections are done at a minimum unlike in Sonic 1 where Marble Zone and Labyrinth Zone are filled with them.>Chemical Plant and Aquatic Ruin have ways to avoid the water entirely by taking top routes unlike Sonic 1's Labyrinth Zone which is 80% slow platforming in water>Add a new character who adds more variety in the gameplay because he can fly. Levels reward this by often hiding extra lives, ring boxes, and shields in high places It didn't need to take risks, just to cut out the bullshit that came before it and built upon what already worked. It's also oddly one of the few games where the bad ending is the superior ending because Tails actually saves Sonic.
>>737530702this mf 50 years old
>>737531231Sonic 2 didn't get rid of the platformingThis is a memeSonic 1 is the better game and more polished overallSonic 2 was rushed and it shows(Mystic Cave pit especially, Oil Ocean awkward object placement etc.) but it's still a great game and a really good sequel
>>737531629>christ, i'm 43, and i remember being in 5th grade when it came out.You would have been 9('83) or 10 years old('82) so 3rd or 4th grade
>>737531956>Sonic 2 didn't get rid of the platformingYou can't read English, saar. Go back to your own internet space.
>>737531629>besides, how can you cunt at them for 'not taking risks' Sonic 2 was a risk with it being the first same day worldwide releaseThey had to make unprecedented preparations back in the day before internet was a common thingAnd in its development Sonic 2 was super ambitious(it had time travel ffs) but it had to be cut down to meet holiday release >when like 2 years later they released sonic and knuckles with that cool adapter that let you plug in other sonic games? that was a risk jeet.TBF they had to do that because of the McDonalds tie-in and because a 34meg cart with NVRAM save file would have been too expensive so they would have to sell Sonic 3 for over $100 like with Phantasy Star 4So the decision to split Sonic 3 in two was made and they made the add-on techSonic Team still wasn't happy with that and wanted to release a full version of the game called Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Limited Edition but that plan was canned by upper management
>>737528069metropolis zone is complete dogshit
>>737532069Why are you so obsessed with pajeets?
>>737531180>The level design is samey and boringGood luck explaining this in a way that doesn't also describe all the non-Sonic 1 games >and the fact you can't hit the bosses for a whileSource: my ass
>>737530702Yeah as a kid before you knew what good level design was. Kids famously have shit taste in everything.
>>737532636game is literally the best of both worlds, my man.you can either run to the end or actually explore.
>>737531065That's why you have to play Miracle Edition
>>737530750>>737531180>Mania bad>>737525030>>737525231>06 goodWe did it, reddit. We finally came full circle and went ultimate hyper contrar/v/ian.
>>737528172I mean they did fix it though by making the gameplay faster and adding a spin dash.
>>737531231>It's what every sequel should aspire to beA dumbed down version of the previous entry? You must be a Rocky II > Rocky kind of guy.
>>737532703The levels are boring as fuck to just run through and annoying as shit to explore. Literally the worst of both worlds.
>>737532705i can't believe ME goes through all the trouble to let you pick and choose tracks but if i want to fucking hear Sonic Boom in the intro and ending i'm expected to build the OGV myself.what a fucking gaff.
>>737531796Lol no it isn't, you're just a retard with shit taste.
>>737532978God I love the custom OST autism. Introduced me to those US past themes too which was a nice bonus.
>>737532929Sounds like you don't know any basic mechanics other than to hold right.
>>737530525>3K > 2 > 1 > CDftfy
>>737532929sounds like someone forgot how many times Sonic 2's levels bring your momentum to an absolute halt to make you wait on moving platforms
also notice how even the CD haters never say shit about the special stages, cuz even they know they're the best of any Sonic game.
>>737533041>>737533193Sounds like two people started their posts with "sounds like" because CDfags all share the same braincell *high fives myself* GOTTEM
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