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>>737622946neat
>>73762294699, 20 more than I thought it would be, I was wrong
>>737623341>more expensive than console base controllers>just as expensive as the switch 2 pro>way more expensive than the 8bitdos and saarsgood lord
>>737622946>chunky controller that doesn't innovate in any way aside from trackpads>worse sticks and buttons than already existing alternativesYeah, I'm passing. Not once have I thought "damn, I wish I had some awkward laptop trackpad right now".
I'm onions I will have to buy one
>>737623457those trackpads are unironically killer tho, literal gamechanger
>>737623409>more expensive than console base controllersIt would be more fair to compare this to premium controllers, which would make it half the price of the competition while offering features.
>>737622946>it actually is $100I warned you faggots and you did not listenit was NEVER going to be anywhere near as low as $60
I understand the love for trackpads with the Steam Deck, but it seems silly to have them on the controller + charge extra for them.
>>737622946How hard to press are the face buttons on the Steam Deck? I've got an 8bitdo Pro 3 and those make my thumb hurt after like an hour.
>>737624262been a thing since the ps4 and was barely useful there, but now that valve is going it we're supposed to pretend it's an innovation
>>737624262They're there so you can use a Steam Machine like a normal PC without needing a keyboard and mouse.
>>737624348The PS4 version is shit, and to use it on PC you have to use DS4.
>>737624397It seems kinda retarded. If you're in desktop mode, you may as well just use a mouse and keyboard.>Look, I can play Guitar Hero with my buttplug using javascript pluginsSure, cool, but you're better off just using the guitar
>>737624476and the trackpads on the deck suck
>>737624592they're better than most laptop trackpads, snoygger
>>737622946>no 6 face buttonsto the trash it goes
>>737624659Only dysgenic freaks wants those though.
>>737624657the irony of calling me a snoy when I don't even own a ps4, also laptop trackpads feel like garbage so it's not a high bar to clear. It's easier to use the touchscreen for any mouse inputs on my deck, and gyro for shootan, the trackpads feel awful and are rarely ever worth using. It's unironically a gimmick.
>>737622946>99$>the original invading controller was 50-60$No thanks, I'll just grab a normal cheap xboner or an 8bitdo
….i use my ps5 controller as a trackpad on my pc, why dont people talk about that feature.
>>737624807>invadinginnovating*
I will paypig
>>737623457the sticks are better than what any of the big hardware makers sell and valve is kind of a big deal? this controller will have more support and compatibility than whatever other controller you can name
>>737622946Why would I buy a controller with a basic rumble motor in 2026?>le heckin tmrAnyone with basic competence can switch out the sticks in a Dualsense. >le heckin trackpadPretty neat I admit. I think analogue sticks are outdated when trackpads are so much more precise, and durable, but doesn't matter because games would still be built around the expectation of analogue sticks.
>>737624751gamers?
>>737624917Yeah, the kind that don't bath, have shit and piss stained undies, and play smash and FTGs, probably has CP and rapes woman.
>>737624262They are pretty nice for in game menu navigation on deck. I set mine like a track ball
>>737624894shits gonna be discontinued early next year. No normal person is being that huge fuck of a “controller” and for 90 bucks easily it was made for the retards that gargle gabes cum. You can be hundreds of better controlers for 20 bucks
>>737622946>99 bucks for a controller that's the equivalent of the elite version of consoles but better.Wishlisted, cannot wait.
>>737622946I bought an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 instead for 60 bucks and there are no important features I'm missing out on, plus I get to have the superior left stick layout
>>737624997they still support the original steam controller, gabe box, and index, so who cares
>>737622946Too overpriced, guess I'll just get the frame. Any chance for a price drop? I've never followed gayben's hardware prices
Gyro, Trackpad, back buttonsthe only controller that fits is those Snoylite controllers, and those are like $200this is a bargain.
>>737624262I've used the trackpad on my PS4 and PS5 controllers for a lot of things over the years, especially MMO's or similar games with tons of skills and hotkeys for menus etc. Pressing left side, pressing right side, swipe up/down/left/right is already 6 additional keybinds and I could even use them in the middle of action combat. Steam Controller is just that but even better, I'll definitely pick one up since I lost my original one in a move years ago.
>>737622946>$100 for a controllerDropped.
>>737625169The snoy elites have way more techthis literally just refuses what's inside the steam deck
>>737625245what more tech? a mic? lmao
>>737624997>hugeIt's the same size as any other regular controller, just the space between the grips is filled in.
>>737624943>Bath instead of bathe>No hyphenation for compound descriptors>Play instead of plays>Woman instead of womenFucking jeet.
>>737625169>it's a good deal because it's cheaper than literal scams!$100 would be a fair price for the snoy elite controllerI won't pay more than $80 for the gabe controller, simple as. Enjoy the lack of community made controller layouts and mods because only 3 faggots will buy this shit. I'll keep playing risk of rain 2 with my $10 gyro amazon controller, it just werks.
>>737622946This controller is made to play anything on steam, it's expensive, but anything with the same features is more expensive than it.Also, I don't know if anyone knows this, but will it have a workshop like place for you to get the best control schemes for each game?
>>737625245the deck has the best set of features for a controller thougheverbeit
>>737624348they're in a position that actually makes sense now
>$99 for the controllerEveryone else will be expensive then
>>737625371>nowthe steam controller from a decade ago already did that and nobody gave a fuck
>>737624997nah this controller will outlive you and you cannot name a single controller that is better let alone cheaper
>>737624916Uhhh xis, it has HD rumble....
>>737625415I know you can't conjure up images in your head due to your abysmally low iq, but the original steam controller had a "track pad" that replaced one of the sticks, and one replaced the D-pad. The new one has both sticks, and two track pads.
>>737625101I think the Deck has had a 20% off sale once or twice. I don't think the Index ever did. I don't think the controller will ever get a perma price drop. Unlike the original, there's an actual demand for this controller
>>737622946why is this more expensive than a dualsense>it has le heckin back buttonsokay?
>>737624997I still use the original Xbox controller. This is no problem.
>>737625245>the söynyigger actually believes this
>>737625581the deck dpad is pretty ass tbqhwy
>post is an hour oldOh shit I'm going to miss the order window. In Asia the steamdeck has been sold out from komodo for months. This shit is going to be gone by the time I log in after posting this
>>737625098>they still support the original steam controller,No, in order to connect the controller to your account, you need to download the outdated steam client.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3150369779
>>737625329>Enjoy the lack of community made controller layouts and mods because only 3 faggots will buy this shitWhy do you think the community made layouts for the Deck wouldn't work for the controller? Why are you such a vitriolic emotional nigger? It's just a controller bro
>>737625613better build quality, 2 track pads, 4 back buttons, tmr, more connection options, more easily repairable, more support, doesn't look like a dildo
>>737625654>In Asia the steamdeck has been sold out from komodo for months.Anon, they're sold out completely. Any RAM Valve can get their hands on is going straight to the Frame and Machine and controller hehe
>>737625662People just lie because they are sad, i wasnt gonna pay him any mind. Valve fags basically have Stockholm syndrome
>>737625343>those shitty weak haptics>the shitty rim on the sticks easily unglues after a year or two of use>best anythingShould've used actual rumble motorsShould've used an actual cap for the stick instead of having a sensor on top
>>737625639>snoygger>because I didn't eat straight out of gabe's assSo where are your two force feedback triggers?
>>737625581What's the point of a "do everything" controller with lesser quality than separate dedicated controls that costs 100 bucks anyway?You are better off spending slightly more on a good mouse and a good standard controller as there is no game I can think of where I would simultaneously need sticks, dpad, trackpads, and gyro all at once. I have separate products for each of these purposes.
>>737625613because the driftsense is trash and has to be replaced every 6 months
>>737623457>innovateWhy the fuck do you want "innovation" in a fucking controller? I just want a controller that will last for more than 3 years.
>cheaply made trash sold for exhuberant amounts of dollarinosI use Steam but they need to fuck off with all this awful hardware they're making. You can get a better controller in every single way for much cheaper.
>>737625613you aren't white
>>737625923>good standard controllers name one (1)
>>737625680>Why do you think the community made layouts for the Deck wouldn't work for the controller?Wait, why should I buy this this garbage then? Wouldn't using the 'ick as a controller simply a better deal? I get an actual handheld AND a controller.>Why are you such a vitriolic emotional nigger?yikes, touched the steamie's nerves!
>>737625912>Snoygger telling other people they eat shitCan't make this shit up...
>>737625912That adds nothing to the usefulness of the controller. It eats battery for nothing
>>737625965nah, not doing this stupid song and dance as I know exactly what you'll say in response as you argue in bad faith over it.
>>737625958Genuinely tell me what these controllers are
>>737625957Then keep your Atari controller when you don't want any innovation.
>>737625912you mean the piece of shit plastic gears that people wore out before the first 6 months of release had elapsed?
>>737625958stop being poor and mad about your own broke ass
>>737625965Anything microsoft branded
>>737623457>"damn, I wish I had some awkward laptop trackpad right now".This is what happens when you use shitty Windows laptops. Mac trackpads are godly.
>>737626057name literally one, I'm willing to admit if something is better. I'll give you a freebie, I genuinely wish the sneed controller 2 used AAs so I could use my Eneloops
>>737626140Dude, same, every day I'm pretty happy I got a tmr stick for my OG steam controller and it takes standard batteries that won't take the controller out with it.
>>737626117lol
>>737626117>microslop hardware
>>737626045>your gameplay experience doesn't matter>back buttons most don't use and the piss5 controller also has, now that's a game changerI have bound shit to the back buttons of my deck a whopping 0 times
>>737622946Isn't that video from the original release?
>>737625973Dang. Little nigglet is still chimping out
>>737626086Stop writing your dumb 4chan posts like a nigger (unless you really are a nigger).
>>737625581The lack of a d-pad and two sticks was never the problem.The problem was that they should have gone with 6 face buttons located between the trackpads and no stick.D-pads are obsolete, dual analog was never a good control scheme, adding these was only ever necessary due to Xinput mangling PC input rebinding for most of the 2010s.
>>737622946I'm buying the controllers for the track pads, there's nothing else like it, I hope some clones of this come out I like variety
>>737626238it's godlike for binding annoying multi button inputs, or setting a spam macro
The lengths that tards will go to not just buy a switch 2 and the pro controller...
>>737626326Right, to play all those amazing games, like...?
i already have a switch 2 pro and steam supports it so its whatever
>>737626140>>737626209I think you'll struggle finding any controller with TMR or hall effect that also takes AA batteries, but if you just want a controller with decent sticks for a similar price or less check out brands like fantech, gamesir, 8bitdo, etc.Actually searching right now apparently the 8bitdo pro2's rechargeable battery is removeable and can take AA batteries instead? too lazy to confirm if that's true
>>737622946FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>737626060>Not a single exampleOk then.
>>737625965I've been using the same xbone controller since 2014.
>>737626326>just buy your whole library of games for 3x the price goyThanks but no thanks shitentoddler
>>737626216>>737626230NTA but their controllers are fine
>>737624997>You can be hundreds of better controlers for 20 bucksThere is not a single better controller period. Let alone one for 20 bucks.
>>737626452pcbros are so gay blindly sucking Gabe's cock. The controller is not a premium product, but they're charging $100 for it. I'm afraid to see the Frame and Machine prices.
>>737626269iykyk tap in
>>737626326Did the Switch 2 fix the awful input latency from the first one?
>no adaptive or locking triggers>no customizable sticks>costs more than controllers that have those features>but you have shitty touchpadslmao.>inb4 "BUT YOU CAN USE THEM LIKE A MOUSE"I'd just use my mouse, touchpads are disgusting, go back to your phones you fucking weirdos.
>100€whatever, just gonna sell some cases and old skins LOL!!!
>>737626441No the fuck they're not lmao. They're 20 years outdated and their build quality makes even the fucking joycons blush.
>>737624943
>>737626618WOMM
>>737626582Samebought like a bunch CS20 cases years ago and it has already funded 2 full prices games and now a controller
>>737622946Why two trackpads?
>I could buy a Volvo controller for 100Or>an anbernic rgds for 110 which includes 2 whole touch screens a battery, a whole phone motherboard with cpu ram and storage, plus buttonsIt is absurd that controllers cost more than 50$, I'll stick to an 8bitdoo
>>737626530>Still not a single better controller example for the same price or less
>>737626326>The lengths that chads will go to not just buy cheap potentiometer trash
>>737626689yeah idgi either, they could've just done a single large touchpad in the bottom middle. Why is there even a menu button down there?
>>737623542Can you show us the base steam controller then?
>>737626712Im just sitting her laughing at you waiting for you do realize how many good controllers exist for 10-20 bucks
Just $100 sisters! (+$20 shipping tip)
>>737625912>>737626238It's nice, don't get me wrong, but if I have to choose between more actual inputs and some extra feedback, I'm picking the extra inputs every time. One affects the actual gameplay while one just slightly enhances your immersion.
>>737626238How?The very first thing I do is map sprint to a back button, I fucking hate clicking the left stick to toggle it.
>>737626817>Trust me dude!>He thinks I know absolutely nothing about controllersLil lmao even
>>737622946Those track pads suck on the steam deck so I imagine they suck on this too
>>737626689Easier typing
>>737626135>high precision>simulated click based on input pressure>incredibly good multitouch functionalityIt's honestly the best trackpad available bar none. A shame that it's tied down to Mac because that shit can easily replace a mouse in its entirety.
>>737626782Are you retarded?
>>737626894Surely such an advanced controller has a built in mic for voice to text options
I'll just wait till they basically give them away for $1.Again.cause there's no way people forgot they already did this same thing with the steam link and steam controller.
>>737624262I use the trackpad on the dualsense for browsing on a second monitor while playing games. It's actually really nice, the Steam Controller is that but better.
>>737626894>Easier typing
>>737625341>I don't know if anyone knows this, but will it have a workshop like place for you to get the best control schemes for each game?Yes. Just like the 'eck and every other Steam input supported controller.
>>737626936>voice to text optionsThis shit is fucking gay and terrible, be it on controllers or phones.
>>737626890I mean you are the one bitching and actings like a retarded nigger when you are literally on the internet and can search for yourself. So obviously you are a stupid kid thats upset you are a stupid kid.
LET ME BUY IT YOU NIGGEWRS
>>737626894>Easier typing>oskYou must be the retarded valve de that removed the daisywheel keyboard
>>737626689>two trackpads?
>>737624659Saturn chads win again
>>737626998I'll take that as a "it doesn't have built in mic for text to voice controllers" then.
>>737626963You forgot that people have been literally begging them for years to make a steam deck controller.
>>737626975Nice, thanks for the answer.That already puts it miles ahead of any controller. Those pads are going to see full use in every game I play.
>>737627048It doesn't, doesn't even have a microphone. I don't know where the fuck the pricing for this thing comes from, it's missing a shit ton of qol stuff other controllers have gotten over the years.Is controller mic GOOD? no, but it's functional, as it should be.
>>737626963tbf the original steam controller got sued and that's why they had to dump them fast
>>737627030For the zoomers who don't know
>>737627025Here comes the projection master.
>>737624659You already got one, anon. Don't be greedy. Too bad it's apparently shit.
>>737626326I have a switch 2 already anon. Plus a steam deck. Also a powerful desktop. I'm not poor afterall. But no way I'd buy the switch 2 pro controller when the switch 1 pro controller I have already is perfectly fine. Nintendo is the most Jewish Japanese company. Good quality shit but they are money grubbing freaks. They charge $25 for Funko pops with near zero functionality in games. Nintendo hardware pricing is indefensible
>>737622946I liked the original better. This looks xbox classic levels of fat.
>>737622946>No real mention of dual stage triggersDoes this have them or not?
>>737627101>microphoneWhy would I want a mic in my controller?
>>737626326>i have a switch 2>and the procon 2>i will also buy this controllerthirdies need to fuck off back to their shacks.
>>737627254no, it does not. The review very explicitly states it does not have locking, two-stage or adaptive triggers in any way. They're very plain triggers.
>>737627254what's the benefit of a dual stage trigger?
>>737626817>how many good controllers exist for 10-20 bucksGood? Sure. Better? None. Not even for a higher price point.
>>737622946>Steamies hype up piece of shit steam hardware for the 5th timeWow
>>737627437faster pulls, or in the two games (mario sunshine and returnal) that uses them correctly, functionally doubling buttons from triggers.
>>737627510>faster pullsI don't think I've ever played a game and thought "man I wish the trigger pulled faster" desu
I wouldn't buy one without testing it. Looks huge and uncomfortable
>>737622946looks kinda small, like they prioritized comfort for children instead of adult man hands
that fucking square design is so alien to me, the fins are very small, I'm worried my hands are gonna cramp to shit cause I have nothing to hold on to.
The people in here are the same types that will defend the dock price when the jsaux clones cost 1/4th of it with the same features or more
>>737627510>functionally doubling buttons from triggers.That's supported by Steam input in software. I know it's not quite the same since you don't get the click at the end, but at least it's functionally the same.
>>737622946This shit looks so unwieldy
99 dollars is crazy
>>737627612>>737627654Kek
>>737627689having to be conscious of your own holding defeats the very purpose though. There's a softcap on the dualsense and the gamecube controller has that very pronounced clunk on full depress.Try playing returnal and having to feather the fucking trigger between normal and charged shot, you can't. Mind, there's basically no games that use it, so it's not a HUGE deal, but it would probably see more adoption if more controllers had it. Workarounds are lame.
>>737627679>the fins are very small, I'm worried my hands are gonna cramp to shit cause I have nothing to hold on to.It still has a normal controller shape at the back. The face is just extended down a bit
>>737627030I mean that it's easier than what current consoles use for typing and it doesn't necessitate you to whip out your keyboard.
>>737625613releasing a controller without back buttons in this day and age is actually a crimeclawniggers do not reply
>>737627831I use 2 fingers curling on the fins to be able to actually grip my ds4/xbox controllers. This would only let me use 1, I don't like even the thought of not being able to hold my controller properly. Maybe a redesign in the future. or a "budget" version without trackpads and a more standardized design.
>>737627363100 bucks and not even adaptive triggers what the hell are they smoking
>>737627962the fucked up thing is that it's STILL going to sell out and be scalped.
So it's going to be 85 euros, right?Right??
>>737628020no because burger prices are without taxwe'll be lucky to have it cost 99 euros
>>737628061it's only $108 with tax, not really that crazy. Probably between $115 and $125 shipped.
>>737628020Lmao no? We have value tax already built in to prices, so 99€ as well
>>737628117>it's only $108 with taxBecause USA has low VAT.EU average is around 21%
>>737626271>The lack of a d-pad and two sticks was never the problem.Nah, not having a dpad on the original Steam controller was a retarded decision.It's less of an issue now since chances are people have another device they use to play 2D games besides their desktop, but back then it was mega-retarded.
>>737627930>I use 2 fingers curling on the fins to be able to actually grip my ds4/xbox controllersIt's not like youre fingers wrap all the way around to the front where the extended face would get in the way, right? Or are you an ayyy? Your middle and ring fingers are supposed to rest on the back buttons. The 'eck is similar and really comfortable.
>>737628257They wrap about 3/4 around when accounting for my whole hand. for the left side my palm is against the out facing fin, then my ring and pinky finger are usually curled around for stability, middle on trigger, index on l1/r1, thumb on sticks/buttons.These controllers look like they're just big square, it's a design I just can't wrap my head around, I think I'd need to try one, hopefully they do demos of some sort cause I'd never risk $100.
totally worth itfuck sonyfuck nintendofuck microslopfuck gamejeet
I'm gonna be real here. I have huge fatty fuck ham joint hands.My thumb meat will rub against that touch pad every time I use the analog stick. There is no universe in which I ever buy this thing because of that.
>>737623409Yeah imma stay SAARing til it dips to like 60. I still have an SC1 I can cope with
> Literal GameSaar shills fill the threadWe need innovation in controllers, because they've been a race to the bottom since after Xbox 360 and PS 3 times.
>>737623409>>737623457Ok, what other controller do I buy to get trackpads, faggots?
>>737628463Vid is garbage ADC isn't it?
>>737629783a laptop with a cheap aliexpress controller
>>737622946I'm sorry valvekeks but this looks awful to use
I have literally never heard anyone say a single good thing about trackpads before the steamdeck, lmao. It is crazy how astroturfed that shit is. trackpads are fucking gay nigger AIDS. Get that shit out of my controllers.
Could he also have the steam machine?
>>737626326>switch 2 pro controller>same cheap stick tech tech as the Switch 1 joycons>only has one pair of back buttons>doesn't even have analog triggers
>>737629834Saar...
>>737626551No, it's even worse than the Switch 1.>You can't even tellIs the latest defence after>It isn't happeningTurned out to be false.
>>737623457>>chunky controller that doesn't innovate in any way aside from trackpadsFind me a controller with an alternative (like quad thumbsticks) and 6 back buttons.
>>737626326IMO I don't really care for the drifting gimmick that Nintendo has for their controllers, I like it when my character stays in place when I'm not touching the joystick.
>>7376246596 face buttons are a meme, back padels are more versatile and make a lot more sense than putting more shit on the front that your thumb has trouble reaching.
Only way Valve could sell me on this is if it had bluetooth support, and the firmware can be programmed to make a PS5 think it's a native DualSense controller.
>>737630550it has bluetooth.I can't imagine it WOULDN'T have directinput support, so it can probably be used on a ps5, but no there's no way to make it think it's a dualsense, it's missing half the features of a dualsense.
>>737624348speak for yourself. i use it as a mouse to watch tv in my bed or switch between my game and browsing.
>top dpad for fighting games>best analog stick positioning >4 back buttons >gyro>dual trackpads (kino)>magnetic TMR thumbsticks>no batteries xbox trash >$90King of Gamepads. I kneel
>>737627510Wait but you can setup this for any gamepad with analog triggers using steam mapping.
Controllers need more buttons and bullshit like scroll wheels, and analog facebuttons like the PS2/3, or whatever else can be stapled on. The average person's fingers are nimble enough to handle multiple buttons and different shit attached onto controllers could be good for different types of control/navigation for player movement or menus.
>>737630612>it's missing half the features of a dualsense.Short of some security switch nonsense, only thing it's missing is adaptive triggers and headphone passthrough which I don't care for.
>>737630938I want a fucking crank.I thought the idea that a fucking crank would be a gameplay element was awesome and then they don't fucking USE IT FOR ANY.sony standardized fuckass touchpad bullshit. now someone jam a crank on a controller.
>>737628223Maybe if D-pads hadn't gotten into patent wars they could have been refined into something better, but as it stands the d-pad is still just a way to solve button economy issues on low-button ewaste while introducing the potential for misinputs, and it wouldn't have been an issue if the Steam Controller 1.0 hadn't had a useless stick while also sequestering one of the face buttons on the ass end of the controller just so that it could have a diamond shape.
>>737630938>analog facebuttonsTotal meme. Controllers can have more accessory face buttons tho. Like how touch panel of DS4 is hiding 4 buttons but only 1 game (Elite Dangerous) uses them
>>737631009
>>737630938No one wants this
>>737631130Yes, and precisely 3 of the like 200 officially published titles for it use the crank for anything but menuing.
>>737622946>They don't compete with a premium controller with swappable sticksThat's because they're meant to last and not develop drift in a month, controllers with that feature like the Dualsense Edge are selling you planned obsolescence as a feature.
Remember how the Vita had a touchpad on the back with a bunch of button mappings on it and then no game ever used them except for the uncharted tech demo
>>737631152is that someone LARPing that they play titanfall with a sim setup? lmfao
>>737630938>and bullshit like scroll wheels,The touchbar on PS4/PS5's controller is good enough for swipe&hold motions for that task.Too bad no fucking game uses the touchbar beyond being a giant Select button.
>>737631152steel battalion was sovl incarnate
>>737630938Scroll wheel isn’t even useful. I just use page down or drag the scroll bar for precision 4channing. Dude you’re massively overestimating humans skill, most humans can’t even remember all the skill combos in dark souls, and also can’t even reliably execute a 3 button combo. More buttons won’t do anything for the gaming scene.
>>737631191Tearaway was basically the only game that used it for gameplay beyond pretending it's a flat L2/R2 surface.
>>737630938They really do. It's absurd to me that we don't have basic shit like shift keys as standard, Xinput has been a disaster for the human race.
>>737631191I remember trying to play sigma and getting fucking assblasted at any sort of dust touching it activating your ninpo lmao
>>737631191>>737631228It really ridiculous how all those functions gamepads for fucking consoles are usable only on PC. Like wtf? They can't even make gyro work while Steam gives people most experimental gyro and mapping options. They did it even before steam deck.
>>737631191I actually had no idea that was even a feature until I got one and tried playing PS1 games
>>737622946Wish it had extra L buttons like the 8bit do 3. I prefer those over grip buttons. Those are too easy to press.
>>737631335>XinputSupposedly "GameInput" is supposed to remove the "only the same amount of buttons as an XBox controller" limitation. But I don't know a game that actually uses it.
>>737631568none, because MS still threatens anyone releasing games that if they don't use xinput for a pc port they won't let them sell on xbox.
>>737629783Asking the REAL question.Funny only person replied to you and still can't give a proper answer.
sorry valve, I'll stick to my $30 gamesir!
>>737631643??? But GameInput is made by Microsoft and is backwards compatible with XInput. It's basically XInput 2.
>>737631568GameInput is mostly there to appease HOTAS/wheel users, where games generally needed to support accepting inputs from multiple DirectInput devices simultaneously for the autistic setups.
>>737630938>analog facebuttonsDie.
>>737622946how do you even make a controller this expansive?
>>737625645The Deck dpad was fucking shit and unusable for the kind of games you'd need it for, and i can tell from looking at this new controller that it'll be about as badHow hard is it to just knock off the Dualshock d-pad ffs
>>737631643Xinput was a thing because Microsoft sharted out the worst, cheapest and most overmarketed controller known to man and slapped it with the most garbage Dinput mappings.The buttons were wrong and they assigned the left trigger and right trigger to the same axis, just with positive and negative.>>737631829>Xinput 2All the more reason to not use it. Microsoft APIs are shit.
>>737630818>best analog stick positioningbut it's the objectively wrong analog stick positioning?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2157110IT'S UP LOGIN
>>737632240>All the more reason to not use it. Microsoft APIs are shit.The only real plus Xinput brought to the PC space was requiring games be polling for changes in controllers, unlike the games of yore where your shit had to be plugged in prior to loading up the game.
>>737632276Anything other than a single thumbstick that doesn't share face real-estate on its part of the controller is shit, the only acceptable analog stick positioning is on the N64 and Wii Nunchuk.
Curious, what's everyone's preference for Dpads, Dualsense vs Xbox, and why? I prefer the clickiness of Xbox, but I think it's too loud and think the PSVita's dpad is better
>>737632382eroges get more and more lewd ever year, huh
>>737623457>doesn't innovate in any wayWhy the hell do you want controller innovation? Were you alive during the 2010s waggle era of gaming? Because that sucked.
>>737632276Nah. It allows you to press L1/2 or R1/R + dpad on the move. With xbox laying your index finger will be forced in awkward position where you need the more control (thumb)
>>737632417I want clicky.so sexbox.
>>737632417I have never used a dualshit d-pad that didn't make me want to kill myself, same for Xbox. I have a chinkheld that's supposed to be an approximation of the Vita's d-pad and it feels pretty great, but apparently no one puts those on controllers.
>>737632513>L1/2 or R1/R + dpad on the moveanything requiring a claw grip is an instant disqualificationuse a keyboard if you need more buttons, claw grips aren't real
>>737632417Vita.
>>737625662my steam controllers work just fine on my non-outdated steam client and steam deck lmaoyou're a retard
>>737631707Trackpads aren't needed lmao
>>737622946If the trackpads are anything like the Steam Deck's trackpads I can't imagine it being worth using. The dropoff in precision and accuracy and speed is just too much. And I'm not sure why I'd get a steam controller otherwise. It doesn't seem to have any killer features that make me think 'oh shit that sounds great, I want this so I can take advantage of that feature'All the features just seem like standard boilerplate stuff. It's even a step down from lots of other controllers in a bunch of ways, like apparently the haptics aren't even up to snuff for e.g. playing PS5 ports on Steam that would utilize the PS5 controller's haptics.It just doesn't seem to make sense to me. I don't know who this is for, or what I'd get out of it. Now the Steam Frame on the other hand sounds really sick. Can they please hurry up and put that on sale
>>737622946where is the transparent version?
>>737629380Post hands. Because it almost certainly won't be an issue unless you're unironically worthy of being classified as a planet.
>>737622946What's the Xbox controller he has in the video?
>2 threads full of seethers that wouldn't buy it even at $20Classic /v/
>>737632650A triggers + d-pad is pretty common in action games tho. You're not real gamer if you can spam skills on the move. It's pretty useful in mlg pro console fps. No idea why xbox analog layout is still associating with CoD when you need to press dpad on the move for peak performance.
>>737623457>Yeah, I'm passing
>>737625329>Enjoy the lack of community made controller layouts You are the dumbest retard of all the retards ITT.The original Steam controller had an insane amount of layouts, and that was BEFORE the Steam Deck.
>>737633191you have to realize the average poster here now is either a favela monkey or a SEAmonkey, they can't afford shit
>>737622946I love it, but find it sad that they had to cater to console retarditis.It should have had ONE trackpad, ONE stick (left) and a better D-pad and ABXY placement.
>preorders will be open on mondayI kind of hope they don't ship it too fast, I'm on holiday for a week after next week and don't want a steam frame sitting in the lobby
>>737633871[citation needed]
>>737625973>Wait, why should I buy this this garbage then? Wouldn't using the 'ick as a controller simply a better deal?i think a lot of people just want a controller and not an entire game system but that could just be hearsay
>>737622946Will it connect to my Xbox Series X?
>>737633896>unboxing video package added this week>asian distributor gearing up>controller review posted early>current steam fest ending on monday 10am PT
>>737632834>The dropoff in precision and accuracy and speed is just too much.As opposed to?
>>737634128No lol it won't even work without steam running.
>>737634232a mouse
>>737627681>dockI always buy OEM. I hate generics and clones, because something always goes wrong.
I like the Steam controller overlay, but one think I want for it is to just let me have a "set these settings as the default for all games" options. Back when I was on Windows using a DS4, I had my "default" setting for how I wanted my controller to work with DS4Windows, and I barely had to make any adjustments per game. Now I have to go to some screenshots and redo the settings all over again whenever I play similar playing games.
>>737625662I am literally using it right now, it just works.
>>737634283As expected, anon makes a disingenuous argument.
Why the fuck won't they sell their new hardware to south america? The majority of gamers here use PC and would instantly buy
>>737634713lol
>>737634713Because the populated areas of SA get taxed the fuck out for products not manufactured there.
>>737634672i can choose to use a mouse or these trackpadsi pick the mouse because better speed/precision/accuracyif i will use the mouse anyway what's the point in getting the trackpads?this isn't an """argument""" it's just a fact of what i will choose to use and how that informs my purchasing decisions. If using the trackpads was just as good as using the mouse or better than a mouse I'd buy the trackpads and use those instead
I had this shit on my Steam wishlist for 5 months waiting for a price and removed it instantly lmao
>>737622946This is an insta-buy for me for the gyro alone. Other controllers claim to have it but none work perfectly with Steam Input.
>>737633871>don't want a steam frame sitting in the lobbyWell, good for you. They're seemingly only releasing the controller right now.
>>737634839
>>737634713Indians on Xitter are pissed that they won't sell it there too.
>>737635032?
>>737634839>i can choose to use a mouseNot if you're on a couch.
>>737635031I mean, it's just that we've only had leaks on the controllerI still think they'll release everything at the same time
>>737635121It's you on your desk instead of relaxing on the courch.
>>737635227Would be nice but unlikely. The RAM market is still fucked and we've only had leaks for the controller as you said.
>>737635246>courch
>>737635212why would I play a mouse game on a couch? for non-mouse games I can just use one of the other controllers I already own on my couch. for CS or Apex or Valo or COD or Overwatch or battlefield or etc etc etc I'm going to pick the mouse. The trackpads aren't really good enough for them
>>737625169Only thing missing is concave d-pad. But should be easy enough to mod.
From my understanding, I can basically turn the trackpads into 8 buttons per trackpad?>press up>press down>press left>press right>swipe up>swipe down>swipe left>swipe rightI mean, it's nice for some shortcuts I guess. But is it possible to program macros? Like>While held down, dpad up, wait 1 sec, dpad down, wait 1 sec, repeatBecause That's be REALLY nice for games with random encounters where I have to grind.
>>737635227WHERE IS THE STEAM FRAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737635425some /g/ fag claims to have a preview unit, says the base edition includes the controller too and costs 1099I don't believe him
>>737635420>But is it possible to program macros?Last I checked, Valve were pretty autistic about macros because they're retarded. They handicapped SteamVR because they were scared of people doing virtual bump mods.
>>737632789Just like analog triggers aren't needed, right?
>>737635505The price sounds about right. The guy is probably lying though
>>737635395Oh no.
>>737635590Name one (good) game that requires them.
>>737635425I will never buy a steam frame but I'm very interested in the translation layer they're making for x86<->arm
>>737635601they did say it would cost less than the indexthe most expensive index pack would be cheaper than this cheapest base edition, doesn't make much sense
>>737635514>bump modsWhat's that? Looking up bump mods bring up Sims pregnancy mods and adding VR to the search gives results talking about shaders
>>737626383Can confirm, the pack is shaped like 2 aa's glued together
>>737635420You can set a key to repeat like a turbo button but not really macros. I use it to skip repeating dialogue.
>>737635663>they(valve, not the fa/g/)
>>737635668Bump stocks. It was a joke, I think the Pavlov guys got butthurt about people using macros to convert semi-auto pistols into full auto so Valve shitcanned their whole remapping interface.
>>737635420I've setup macros with delays like you describe, but I've never tried to have them repeat. I only used it for getting to some menu item where the initial click opened a menu and the delay gave some time for the menu to open and be active before the next input triggered.
>>737632417my opinion is precisely what you just posted. the only issue with the vita's d-pad is it's too small.
>>737635638Ace Combat.
>>737632834You do realize you can fine tune these in the controller setting on the deck right?
>>737635246>>737635619It made me think of Coach Z saying it
>>737625662You are retarded, or just lying for no reason. I use the old steam controller no problem.
>>737626876>even snoy controllers aren't built for playing gameskek
>>737626710>mobile gamingFacebook is that way, fren
>>737632417i like mushy as fuck
>>737635638Armored Core 4FA
>>737634713clearly notlook at the thread
>>737632834>The dropoff in precision and accuracy and speed is just too much.So edit it. Half the appeal of the steam controller is the fact that you can edit everything to your personal preference.
>>737633191>wouldn't buy ugly, unergonomical shitty controller for $20correct. this looks like a mad catz reject lol. only those with steam derangement syndrome will be buying this future landfill
I would rather play on a steam deck than with this controller. Seems like a total hassle
>>737627257There, unbelievably so, are folks who play game audio via TV or external speakers. Built in mic then provides qol
>>737629808now give the the recipe or rice and red beans
>>737636280>>737632729>>737632729Retard, can you read?>December 2023, steam has officially discontinued support for the steam controller internal configurator. Because of this, many functions related to setting up gamepads and steam controller stopped working properly. For example, the "bind controller" button in the current version of steam does not work at all.If you bought or added a controller before 2023, everything is fine, but now you need to use an outdated Steam client to add it.
>>737627142This didn't take off? Looks usable
>>737635406>why would I play a mouse game on a couchWhy would you not? And what is a "mouse game"? Any game that benefits from mouse in any way? Because that means any game with aiming, or about 70% of all games ever made. Now you can play all of those on the couch without either compromising on your aim or having to use aim assist.>for non-mouse games I can just use one of the other controllers I already own on my couchSure, feel free. You're missing out though since the trackpads and back buttons improve a lot of games.
>>737631191you never played killzone mercenary
>>737622946Who gives a shit? WHERE IS THE STEAM MACHINE?
>>737636650so 99.99% of people who use a steam controller don't have that issue, got it
>>737635420>From my understanding, I can basically turn the trackpads into 8 buttons per trackpad? Actually 16, a 4x4 grid of virtual buttons essentially.
>>737631191Gee, maybe Sony should have give the player the ability to rebind it.
>>737636650
>>737628368My hands must be retarded, I've never felt comfortable using my middle finger for triggers. Human hands have *OPPOSABLE* thumbs, not 3/4 way angled, are there really no controllers that place the shoulders and triggers at the bottom, *OPPOSITE* the thumbs/face buttons?
>>737634713cant you buy it through Amazon or ebay?
reminder TMR is inaccurate trash that eats your battery too
thirdies already seething because they won't be able to buy it
>>737636803trump fucked up the world, please understand.>>737637136i rather have accurate sticks with lower battery life. new controller have the size to accommodate a bigger battery too
>>737633142
>>737634713Because low marketshare and would be supply and logistics hell.ALSO lots of south american countries are tax hell if you want to sell US products there.
>>737636872That seems like it would be REALLY easy to press the wrong "button". They're 32x32mm squares with no physical dividers.
>>737637052>are there really no controllers that place the shoulders and triggers at the bottomNope. You have to understand that we're dealing with 30+ years of patent trolls for basic interface design. The big issue with that design would be spacing, you'd need some adjustment to fit most hands.
>>737637393Holy shit it's Gaben! When can I buy it?
>>737637479Just train your gamer fingers
>>737627142this looks like it would be insane if you grew up with it
>>737637479It's not an issue. There's a popup on screen like this >>737637321 that show's which one you're hovering over. Your thumbs are also a lot more accurate than you give them credit for.
>>737622946I'll wait for the chinese knockoffs, 8bitdo and gamesaar will probably make something similar...right?
>>737632417N64 has a GOAT'd dpad
>>737624348>>737624262>I can't see why I would use this with something that doesn't use it It's a PC controller, not a console controller, you retards.
>>737638029Exactly?A PC does not need trackpads, your mouse is right fucking there
>>737630938ENTER
>>737625613Because it has more stuff? >okayYeah, okay.
>>737637669>flashbacks to people speedtyping on their nokia 3310
>>737637706wtf? That's actually really cool. Reminds me of this mid game I played called Ragnarok Odyssey on PSVita. The touch screen was actually useful in that game because there were "extra buttons" you could assign items to for quick access.
>>737626689Because you have two thumbs. >>737626753Because you have two thumbs, not two additional middle fingers.
>>737622946>$100 plus tip for a hunk of Chinese plastic.Nope.
>>737637340>i rather have accurate sticksso potentiometers
>>737623457>it doesn't innovate>except for the part where it does innovate>far more than controllers over the last 4 gens did ok
Do Valve do stealth launches? I don't wanna miss out when it goes live and out of stock 1 hour deep
>>737638291They could have a 1 trackpad that covers the same surface area of those 2 separate trackpads, that was the point I was making
>>737622946you don't need to unspoiler if its the end of your post
>>737638151Also this one is actually function but again pretty meme tier because it has no gyro and gyro is great replacement for trackIR or addition to trackIR
>>737635406Because you can.
Is there word on latency? I'm hoping it will be super low both wired and wireless, but I wouldn't be surprised if both are bad, with what they find acceptable on Steam Deck
>>737638436who knowssteam deck pre-orders opened a day after its announcement, but it took them more than half a year to start shipping them and a year to fully ship themthis time they got stock beforehand so it might ship way sooner
>>737638590Valve says 250hz polling rate and 8ms average latency.
>>737622946duke-esque
>>737627257So you can play Seaman on Dreamcast, i can't believe i have to explain this.
>>737625101Deck had refurbs for a discount, when they were offloading the OG Steam Controller I got one for 5$ but that's unlikely to happen for a while.
>>737638082Yeah, right fucking there on my desk when I'm trying to lay down on the couch.
>>737638893that was because of some retarded lawsuit where parasites would get money from sales, so they just said fuck it and sold it at shipping price
>>737622946I could buy 5 gamesirs for the same price
Meh.
>>737638906Do you exclusively play PC games in the living room?
>>737622946Unless gamedevs actually incorporate the extra buttons by default on their games, for 99 its just feature creep:the controllerI get (and like) more buttons, but if gamedev support doesnt come hand in hand with the controller itself its just gonna be setup hell for every game trying to find "optimal" shortcuts and workarounds to make use of all that crap
>>737639739>he doesn't know about controller layouts on steam>he doesn't know a LOT of games already have steam controller compatible layouts thanks to the "eck
>>737639739steam input means that what the devs do is completely irrelevantthe community makes control schemes, not developers
>>737639840>not developersIf you're a lazy piece of shit, then yes. Proper developers should do this.https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/steam_controller/getting_started_for_devs
>>737638738Thank you, if they actually released that info themselves that's pretty awesome. I hope some reviewers test it though and see if that's with steam input software and how much it varies in general and stuff too though. It's kind of crazy how bad most controller reviews are.
>>737639835>>737639840Native implementation (with game design in mind) ≠ a bunch of shitty shortcuts and macros
>>737636650>plug in dongle>turn on controller>it just works, regardless of what machine it is on
>>737624348>Used for a system that doesn't use mouse control or have mouse games>In a such an awkward position, I don't even know how it would work for FPS games>Came after the first Steam Controller
>>737638082Good point, I'll just reach out and grab my mouse every five seconds for better camera control than an analog stick.
>>737640665>I don't even know how it would work for FPS gamestrackpads don't work for FPS games at all tbqhwy>>Came after the first Steam ControllerNo it didn't
>>737640437It would be useful, but it isn't required on PC since many games will have additional keyboard specific inputs you can then map to the controller. You are taking advantage of natively implemented features for a different set of hardware that the game was designed to work with. As an easy example, I bind the track pad on my PS4/5 controller to the number keys as the default since they are often used for hotkeys. You often have people say controllers can't compete with keyboard because they don't have enough inputs, so giving them access to the keyboard inputs is an obvious path forward.>its just gonna be setup hell for every gameI'm probably in the minority, but I absolutely love making complicated controller layouts for games that shouldn't be played with a controller. It is as fun as playing most games and super satisfying when you get it just right. Beyond Citadel is one of my favorites so far with its 3 buttons dedicated just to reloading on top of leaning and things that usually get cut from modern shooting games because controllers don't have enough buttons. Down swipe to pullout a magazine, up swipe to put in a new one, and finally a trigger to chamber a round feels just right. The only problem is that trying to share them would be nearly impossible with the three sentences space Valve gives you to explain the myriad of action maps and unusual button combos so anyone else who wants to use it would be lost.
>>737640773Bro? Your gyro?mouse > gyro > trackpad > stickthis is not up for debate.
>>737640867>gyro > trackpad
>>737640969try playing a shooter on a trackpad
>>737640867>mouse > gyroGyro > mouse
>>737623457They work really well for strategy games, imo
>>737641018No.
>>737641018>Gyro > mouseStick > Gyro
>>737641080>>737641075
>>737641014
>>737641075*flick-sticks you 360 no scope*
>>737641080stick? you mean that thing that's so bad at its job that developers implemented functionality that plays games for you if you use it?
>>737637590Would you mind elaborating on the patent issue? Or tell me to fuck off in the right direction. VR controllers are nearly there with the placement, since it's a more gun-grip like design. How come it's such a problem to do the same for game pads?
>>737641220that's not your pic
100 isn't bad at all IF it's a good product made to last as long as it feasibly can.
>>737623341IMHO they probably intended to charge less originally but they want to be able to add "$100 value" to Steam Machine bundles since they'll have to sell them with almost no margin. Also IMO they're not waiting for RAM inventory or for prices to drop before they sell the Frame or Machine, they're waiting for everyone else to be forced to jack up their prices so when they announce their own price it won't sound so outrageous. Sure enough, everyone's price has gone way up in the last month or so - Sony, Oculus, PC OEMs, tablet manufacturers, etc. It makes sense there's finally some motion now.
>>737641220>>737641263Not only that, but the anon who posted it in the first place says he used gyrohttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737454372/#q737454372
>>737638373you fucking retard
>>737624807>wares out in 3 months in you're path
>>737641014>try
>>737641434this perfectly illustrates the problem with trackpads, lol
>>737641258>Would you mind elaborating on the patent issue?Basically any novel controller design will infringe on some bullshit patents these days. We're long past the wild west 90s.VR controllers are all horribly designed, have you ever used them?
>>737622946who cares about a controller, what's the name of that helicopter game he was playing?
>>737638738oofman fuck alpakka for getting so greedy with the pricing
>>737641434You know you can fick to turn, right?
As someone who's bought from all the big brands, I gotta say they're all dogshit. Switch Pro controller lasted longer than my Xbox one, which had the bumper just snap right the fuck off. The Dualsense has amazing features unique to it but it doesn't matter when the sticks break within 6 months. That's what happened with my SPro too. Ever since then I've been using a KingKong2 and it's been great but the grip on each thumbstick has worn out over the years (yes YEARS.) It's a tolerable issue because i'm a Real Gamer and just get used to it, but I'll probably grab one of these for comparison if nothing else. My mouse's scroll wheel is fucked, so I guess it has an edge on Corsair too.
>>737641476>the problem is... THAT'S JUST THE PROBLEM OKAY
>>737641476>>737642235>what is airstrafing
>>737642326The problem is th-Hold up, let me turn to face you before continuing>*scooch*>*scooch*>*scooch*The problem is the surface area of a trackpad is too small, and cannot cover the same precision nor the same distance of a good mouse (or at least gyro)
>>737642468good thing it also has gyro>mousethe entire point of the thing is when you don't want to use mouse and keyboard without the normal downside of controllers having dogshit aiming
>>737642468That's what accel is for.
>>737641014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwD3kMYVic
>>737642549>good thing it also has gyroI know, this discussion split off from when I posted >>737640867 as if that should be in any way controversial.
the gamesaar g7 pro is still the best choice
>>737622946I think it is a good deal, I spent $150 on controllers past gen thank to drifting, take into account I learned how to fix them myself as well so include $40 of tools.The problem is scalping.So if you REALLY want one, realistically prepare to shelve $300.
>>737642584>>737642597You lose precision from flicking, as you're relying on an approximation of the resulting velocity vector based on a single stroke of movement, then having to correct that movement with your hand after the stroke. Anyone playing shooters using a trackpad will always have that "jitter" to their aiming, no matter how much you practice, as predicting how your strokes will be interpreted as rotational accelleration is simply not reliable enough. There is insufficient data for a trackpad to track this with any real precision and you lose fine-motor stability completely. Can you adapt to this? Absolutely. Should you? No. You have better options, such as using a mouse or at least using gyro.
am i supposed to buy this now or wait to get a gabecube which comes with one by defaultor does the gabecube not come with one
i tried really hard to get into gyro controls i just couldn't do ittoo old and been using regular controllers for too long i guess, i can barely use extra back buttons
>>737623559$60 controllers went away pre-pandemic. Everything is inflated to shit now
>>737622946Hope its big and comfy like the xbox DUKE. I have big man hands so this might be good.Also steamdeck controls are top tier.
>>737632417The Xbox controller is kinda loud, I agree with the other anon, but it's precise as fuck. Going to it from a 360 pad was heavenly.
>>737643113>Should you? NoWhy not?
>>737644067Because it's worse than even gyro, which the steam controller has anyway.
>>737643192its not worth getting into because there's fuck all games that allow simultaneous mouse + controller input and gyro to joystick emulation feels fucking disgusting. Its like teaching yourself to prefer inverting your controls, all it does is cause problems.
>>737622946>$99I'll just get an 8bitdo 3 instead for half the price.
>>737644113Why "even gyro". It uses angular velocity. Rotation vs translation. Except I can do instant 180. So why use mouse when it worse than gyro? It's outdated tool of 2D generation. 3D gyro chads will rule he future.
>>737641648I have, I'm only talking about the trigger placement and overall shape
should this replace my xbox controller that i use to play driving games that im not good at
>>737639613No, but I do sometimes. And when I do, I'd like to not sacrifice on the controls like I'd have to with a normal controller.
>>737644612Because gyro is continuously tracking movement position with multiple angular velocity sensors that are always active (side note: this is why gyro controllers have reduced battery life overall), while a trackpad can't continuously track as your finger has to lift off and reposition. Mouse is better than gyro as it has continuous tracking plus a higher degree of precision (which can be down to a sub-pixel level), plus gyro data accuracy can drift as its position is relative and not absolute in controllers.
HOLY SHIT IT'S UP FOR SALE BUY BUY BUY
>>737637136what the fuck are you talking about, tmr is more efficient than hall effecti have a tmr keyboard that's on par with all those gamery wootings when it comes to performance and latency and it lasts at least a week on battery
>>737622946Will there be an european version like the switch 2?
>>737644994>Mouse is better than gyro as it has continuous tracking plus a higher degree of precisionMaybe your gentle white collar 2D hands are too weak and shaky for 3D control scheme of the future? >plus gyro data accuracy can drift as its position is relative and not absolute in controllers.Do you lift your mouse to reset its position during high action? Yes? Yes.
If you're not going to argue in good faith then I'm not going to bother replying
>>737643387>blocks your path
>>737643113You can't turn quickly with gyro or though and sticks are awful for turning. Use the touchpad for your main movement and gyro for precision movement.
It is good faith you just have no arguments.>mouse can do that>gyro can't cause I say so your hands are weak and not trained for gyro. Rotation is fully controllable down to a sub-pixel level. Fact.
>>737646330>Use the touchpad for your main movement and gyro for precision movement.Might work with a lot of practice, but I'd personally stick with stick+gyro for consistency.
>>737643387Nintendo were the first to push $70-80 standard controllers with the Pro Controller and Joycon Pair in 2017.
>>737646330>Use the touchpad for your main movement and gyro for precision movement.That's the way to do it, but a small nitpick.>and sticks are awful for turningThat's generally true, but flick stick fixes it and it's really only preference if you want trackpad + gyro or flick stick + gyro.
>>73763747916x16 per pad is probably excessive but even if you just do 2x2 you get 8 extra buttons. I played PSO2 that way for a while. It's really nice to have those extra buttons on a controller.
>>737626238i use them for shooter games that are built for mk+b. i usually bind them to ctrl and shift key and one to turn on gyro
This reminds me of the discussions around the first steam controller.>It's totally just as good, if not better than M+KB. You just don't practice enough with it!Steamies are a cult.
>>737642292I had a similar experience. It's amazing how fucking dogshit all new "official" controllers are. I'm on like my fourth Xbox controller and fortunately it hasn't died yet, the buttons kinda get sticky once in a while for some godforsaken reason which never happened with any other controller but whatever. I'll probably cave in and try one of those chinkoid controllers when this one shits the bed.
>>737636413Ah yes, the AC made for people that hate AC.
>>737646884What do you mean hate AC? It's the most interesting and mechanically intense AC. It made other AC games obsolete.
>>737638440i imagine that would be very uncomfortable to reach with your thumbs
>>737647292It's bait, anon. At least AC:FA has turn speed as a stat.
>>737646838my cheapshit Chinese pads last longer and have better quality control than any official sony or xbox pad ive used. Nintendo is completely hit or miss, the switch controllers were even worse than the dogshit sony pads.the entire panic rush for TMR or HAL effect sticks has nothing to do with the underlying tech in traditional pads, its purely because of how cheap and nasty the modern ALPs sticks everyone uses are, old pads never had problems with stick drift or stutter.
>>737622946What a succinct review
>>737622946I dont understand the puck, whats the point when the usb c port is a centimeter away from puck port and they do the same thing
>>737642405Can just tell by your retarded left thumb that you are the skinniest, scrawniest, most try-hard faggot in the world. You have two friends (your parents), and they don't even like you.
>>737648295retard
>>737648341Wtf? He's literally me.
>>737641657Cleared Hothttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1710820/Cleared_Hot/
>>737648341imagine having skin the color of shit lol nigger
>every single time the Steam Controller1/2/Deck's touchpads come up there is a myriad of retards who pretend like no one knows what they can be used for>every single thread>for a decade >a full goddamn decade >its still happening Autistics should be killed by the state
>>737648295it's a receiver and it can handle multiple controllers
>>737648532Repeat what they are needed for, they are not used in any game, the developers did not even bother to add support for them for anything.
>>737628117>it's only $108 with taxThat depends on the state, county, and city where you live.>>737628167>Because USA has low VATThe US doesn't have VAT. It has sales tax determined by jurisdiction.
>>737646048If I didn't have one of these already I'd probably definitely buy like 3 steam controllers, but as it stands I'll just get one just in case it goes the way of the first.
>>737648341you're brown
>>737648341>Can just tell by your retarded left thumb that you are the skinniest, scrawniest, most try-hard faggot in the world. You have two friends (your parents), and they don't even like you.
>>737622946gaben you fat fuck make it available in south america, i don't want to buy it triple price from a jackass i want my steam points.
>>737650587God NuClaire is so fucking ugly, I will never forgive Capcom.
>>737622946>$100That doesn't bode well for the Steam Machine
finally I have something to replace my slightly broken wii u pro controller after all these years
>>737641434>>737642405Jesus man. Use flickstick.
secured my preorder. can’t wait
>>737650649Maybe you're just gay
>>737648429thanks
>>737650941>actually prefering the rightSeems like the faggot it you.
>>737650649mods can fix all nu capcoms terrible faces. I recently played RE2R and RE4R and nothing bothered me because i fixed it all before starting the game.
>>737632834>If the trackpads are anything like the Steam Deck's trackpadsLCD's or OLED's? OLED's trackpads are massively improved compared to the LCD's
>>737651376>that manchin
