latina pit worship on god fr fr
>>737639793What's your race? I don't find latinas attractive at all. T.Spic
>>737639851>I don't find latinas attractive at all.Really?
>>737639851ntaI kind find them hilarious when they are go full Super Sayan mad
>>737639903That style of dancing is so fucking offputting. All it says to the world is "I'M A MASSIVE NARCISSISTIC WHORE!"
>>737639903>>737639943I prefer white women.
but is the game good? where the screnshot
>>737640883better than the Chinese DLC, worse than the Japan DLC
>>737640235Why?
>>737642245Because blonde hair and blue eyes are pretty.
>>737642245White women are more aesthetically pleasing to the eyes.
>>737642245
>>737642245I fucking love blondes so much bros.
>>737639793>Age of Slop: Reprompted
>>737642696nice>>737639793Is it worth a pirate? I recently replayed the old version on steam, if it's basically a 1:1 with a new group to pick I might not bother.
>>737642952nice legs
>>737640883>>737641239From a historical authenticity perspective, it does a bad job with the visual design of the Aztec and their gods and units don't look anything like how they did in actual history/their artwork>The unit and god designs are all very stereotypical, ranging from completely terrible to ehh at best: Most are either based on Concheros/Danza aztecas preformers or Apocalypto style unga bunga jungle tribesmen without actual clothing or armor. Pretty much every design is some flavor of shit on the left side of pic related>Particularly egregious is the fact that Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl seem to be based on Andean/Inca stuff (and not accurately either) rather then anything Mesoamerican>The architecture is done worse then fan made Aztec AoM mods, which actually give everything the proper architectural style and white plaster with painted accents, wheras the architecture they went with, while not terrible, takes a lot of fantastical liberties without any real reason for doing so, doesn't use the actual color schemes we know the Aztec used, and lacks pladter in favor of just showing stone with painted accents>They gave Tezcatlipoca a circular temple, associated with Quetzalcoatl, that even has Teotihuacano feathered serpent heads on it, meanwhile they gave Quetzalcoatl (which the temple would have been a good fit for) something based on the Maya Temple of Kukulcan at Chichen Itza insteadI suggest people check out Tlatoani: Aztec Cities instead if they want a real time strategy/city building game with an Aztec theme
>>737642809whoops, forgot to reply to this in >>737644268
>>737639793Have to say, Aztecs are pretty strong and the only reason they are not on the level of Greeks or Japanese is because they have even less ways to heal their troops.>>737642696>Has a ball made out of feathers fall on her head while she was cleaning the temple>Gets pregnant>Gets into trouble when her daughter and 400 sons want to kill her for thisBased Huitzilopochtli was in the right to slaughter his siblings.>>737644268>it does a bad job with the visual design of the Aztec and their gods and units don't look anything like how they did in actual history/their artworkSome of their buildings do look close to historically authentic. Pretty vibrant and colorful even.
are these ai
>>737639793penis coded
>>737639793>Latina>posts a pre-Columbian injunMesoamericans hadn't gotten SPAINED yet, there was nothing Latin about them.
>>737642952would
>>737645516The bitch in the OP looks absolutely nothing like an amerindian though, so might as well be a castizo latina doing cosplay
>>737644268Whoops "pladter" is meant to be "plaster">>737644974The architecture is certainly less iffy then the units and gods, but it's still not great, for the reasons I gave in my post that you're responding to.Again, various fan made Aztec mods for the older AoM release do a better job with the architecture, see here https://forums.ageofempires.com/t/aztec-culture-mod-mythic-age/196820 and here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-return-of-the-gods/news/aztec-third-age-in-sight and pic related
What's next?
>>737642952For me, it's her.>Obsidian Butterflies>tech for even more Ocelotl/Eagle Warrior damage
>>737639793Is this update pc only?
>the greek didn't have giant golden statues walking around, 0/10 game not historically accurate
>>737650815
>AoM now has 7 civs>1 of them is AztecsWhat a time to be alive.
>>737650329The Aztecs are on PS5 I think
>>737651056Wait wrent they just greeks egyptian nords and atlantean? Who are the other two?
>>737651356Since Retold: Chinese, Japanese, Aztecs
>>737639851Lemme guess, you prefer basic Becky bitches?
>>737648593Oh well. Nothing is perfect sadly.
>>737652090I could have given the architecture a pass if the units and gods were handled better, but sadly they're done a lot worse.Even if the units were as good as the architecture though it'd still just be meh overall.
>>737652632Yeah. Wished if Coatlicue was shown as this female with two large snakes for a head that formed something akin to a face. And not just that.At least some of the myth units are pretty OK like those star demon ladies or axolotls ...but rabbits and armadillos? Oh well...Hoping that the next DLC they make will have more accurate gods and myth units...or units in general.
>>737653261>rabbits aren't accurate
>>737654171More like the unit is kinda like a rodent version of the Hydra/Scylla, making it pretty OP for a early myth unit. It literally grows in numbers the more it slays just like the Hydra and Scylla grow heads the more they slay.Not to mention it can heal itself by eating berry bushes and farms which also further increase its numbers.These are like they took the Monthy Python Killer Rabbit and gave it an Aztec coat.On the other hand the shortie that shoots lasers and turns into a turret that coincidentally looks like my wooden idol my late grandpa got while he was in the past in South America also is a unusual myth unit.
>>737654458They're based on the Four Hundred Rabbits.
>>737654584Shame they don't have a passive aura that boosts peasant work due to them partying hard.
>>737650815>>737650940I believe the mesoautist is complaining not about historical accuracy in the mythology game, but rather about the fact they use the largely fictional, pop culture-derived "pseudo-aztec" aesthetic rather than actual, historically accurate aesthetic for Aztec religion, which is a big loss in my opinion since it was quite kino. Though that being said I'm pretty sure that's arguably the case for every other civ in Age of Mythology so whateverThis artist for instance does some pretty good interpretations of aztec deities and creatures based on their actual iconography which i guess is what he we hoping for
>>737654945
>>737639793>ai art>zoom-zooms find it attractiveit's over
blondes getting beaned
>>737639851gay retard
>>737654945they fit in age of mythology, is that wrong?
can girl get pergrante from come on axila
>>737639793why does all the art look so ai generated
>>737654945She looks sad. I'd give her a hug.
because AI people think that kind of style is AI
>>737655229Not at allJust a bit of a shame if you're into this kind of shit since it basically has no representation in media whatsoever
>>737655540written like ass, and small as hell
>>737655647You have to understand the game requires readability and, cool though they may be, would look like ass in a RTS viewpoint.
>>737654945>Though that being said I'm pretty sure that's arguably the case for every other civ in Age of Mythology so whateverIt is. That's what makes the mesoautist's presence here so out of place. Every single race is pop culture aesthetics, to make the azetcs not so would clash very hard with the rest of the game. You can also complain that the greeks, egyptians, and norse didn't dress up or have buildings IRL look like they do in this game, and it would be just as worthless a complaint.
>Sexualized femaleMICROSOFT THIS IS NOT OK THIS IS NOT FEMINIST AND LGBTQ+ FRIENDLY PLEASE CHANGE THIS RIGHT NOW BEFORE MY 1000K TWITTER FOLLOWERS DOWNVOTE THE GAME!!!
>>737654945That's because largely fictional, pop culture-derived "pseudo-aztec" aesthetic is superior to the actual, historically accurate aesthetic for Aztecs.The same for the aesthetics displayed in Le Morte d'Arthur and Grail literature is superior to the actual, historically accurate aesthetic of those times.The same for the aesthetics displayed in Romance of the Three Kingdom's, Wuxia and Xianxia literature is superior to the actual, historically accurate aesthetic of those times.
>>737642245>Abuelita in the background
>>737656157Hard disagree. On all 3 accounts mind you, but for the Aztecs in particular i very much find the "niggas wearing banners on their backs amidst extremely colorful pyramids" to have been quite superior to "shirtless ooga boogas wearing jaguar skins and their gray bare rock pyramids" and i can't fathom why anyone would prefer the latter
Sex
>>737656521Best one.
What do we want next? Unless they go Mesoamerican again (Incas?) the only other option has to be India right?
>>737639793she looks europeanalso is the game good?
I want Gaels next
>>737657282CelticEastern European/baltic (not the same I know), Mesopotamian IndianRoman (would be different from Greek obviously)PolynesianA few exist
Aztecs will literally name their gods "Its Papa LoL" and expect people to take them seriously.
>>737657391I mean it would be cool but unless you grew up reading Asterix ain't no way you care about those niggas.
>>737639851That’s ok, that’s because you are a homosexual. Leave all your sisters and cousins for me brot. White gigachad
>>737655540it looks like AI therefore its garbage, period.AoM original desings are unique if they really cared they would have done something similar, instead they go with the most generic slop possible because that's all their Indians developers know how to do
Yes
>>737657282For the moment, I don't know if there is much of a future in the franchise to make another civ.So would at minimum want them to make it so all pantheons have 4 gods, instead of just some having 3 and other 4.
>Here's some asians.>And now more asians.>And now some Indians.what the fuck are they thinking?
>>737657628if they looked like this people would complain that they look like deviant art comic artist.
>>737657757You add china so you try to get the chinese public into the gameThen you add japanese because you want weebs to get into the gameand Aztecs was asked for the community for many years, to the point that even people was making full modsThat is the though process.
>>737656521You can't have sex with the universe anon.
>>737657876Well, it has less players than AoE3 so it ain';t working
>>737657282They need to add USA Pantheon, Paul Bunyan, Jhonny appleseed. and that kind of stuff, lady freedom. some bald eagles. mothmen
>>737658021nothing would work really, don't think rts have a future, everybody will just stick to AoE2 and live there.Also, AoE3 not saving your progress if you uninstall is stupid.
>>737658021Really? Source on that? Why would they cancel support for AoE III if it's got more players than AoM?
>>737639793>>737642696who is the fuck is that?>>737644268nice seeing ya
>>737657628Most of the new ones look better. Classic Zeus is unmatched, however.
>>737658035
>>737658021Because AoM Retold is done with interns and AILike they openly admitted it was an attempt to use AI to develop>>737658137NTA but my understanding is AOE3 just was too different from AOE2. AoE4 was made to get new players>>737658170the new ones are ai
>>737658021>AoE3 content cancelled>AoM gets a new civ really quickly solely due to fan backlash to not getting Aztecs in expansion pass 1AoM is doing just fine, 2nd only to AoE2.
>>737658137Going off Steamgrid atmAoM is f2p atm, usually it's less than AoE3
>>737644268By chance have you watched peach cobblers videos on Aztec stuff
>>737639793So they're going for sex appeal after uglifying and censoring all femgods? Can't these indian trannies decide who they want to appeal for once
>>737658341>less than AoE 3 >AoE 3 gets gutted instead of AoM
>>737658341The entire Microsoft RTS catalogue is on sale and AoE3 is literally free right now.
>>737642696
>>737658341To be fair, I'm not on the list because I got the game in the xbox store
>>737657282Mesopotamians/hindus are the only ones i can think about. the remaining ones are just variations of what's already in the game
>>737658508>TrialWhat is this gay shit?
>>737640031Fag
Why are half the Aztec gods evil pieces of shit?
>>737658838how?
>>737644268So it's good. Got it. Quetzalcoatl and Kukulcan are one and the same by the way, so it makes no difference.
>>737656495>niggas wearing banners on their backs amidst extremely colorful pyramidsyeah. their fashion autism is similar to warhammer 40k's astarte fashion; it's just not made of metalit is a diservice to just made them semi naked
>>737655540>>737655692Rough colors look better than final colors for some reasons.
>>737658838Half? All. The Aztecs were a death cult and their gods demanded suffering and sacrifice. It's because the Aztec people themselves were evil and insane. Cortez gave them what they deserved, and every other Mesoamerican tribe were happy to see it.
>>737644268>>737644340>>737648593>>737652632Cont:>>737654945>>737655229>>737655647>>737655993>but rather about the fact they use the largely fictional, pop culture-derived "pseudo-aztec" aesthetic...Correct>...rather than actual, historically accurate aesthetic for Aztec religionNot even. That would be nice, but I'd be fine with something that still takes a significant amount of visual liberties and goes in their own visual direction as long as it at least used actual Mesoamerican aesthetics as their starting baseline and still evoked actual Aztec fashion, armor, and iconography at to at least a minor-moderate extent.But what they went with doesn't even meet that low bar. In their defense, I have heard some people say that the actual gameplay effects and attributes for the god's abilities and their units ties into their symbolism somewhat decently, so being charitable maybe it's a case where the visuals are uninspired but the theming is solid, and if so then I guess they deserve some praise, I've given Kotal Kahn from Mortal Kombat, the Ocelomeh from Fate (pic), and Tlalocmon from Digimon (a friend of mine helped a Youtuber cover it here: youtube.com/watch?v=Otqniu6QMAU&lc=UgwyKma9c2V6pAJSx2d4AaABAg) my seal of approval (to varying extents) for going with that approach for example, but A: I haven't verified that the abilities play into their theming/symbolism that intelligently yet, and B: The Ocelomeh still entirely avoids pop culture visual stereotyping and Tlalocmon largely does (and has a LOT of subtle visual references even if at a glance it's very unfaithful). Kotal is very sterotypically Apocalypto-esque, but it's fucking Mortal Kombat and it's all about over the top 80s action movie ethnic sterotypes so he gets a bit of a pass here, and it also helps that I would have low expectations for Mortal Kombat to do a thematically apt adaptation of Huitzilopotchli. 5/?
>>737659027Every Mesoamerican "tribe" practiced human sacrifice and broadly worshipped the same gods as the Aztecs
>>737658887Imagine being this chill guy and all the other gods that you could potentially hang out with are shit like:>God of mischief>God of war>God of death>God of poison
What's a good book on the Aztecs?
>>737659202>>737654945>>737655229>>737655647>>737655993Cont:Even if (and again, this is an "if" I still need to verify) the abilities make good thematic sense, the abilities tying into the symbolism the gods and units have is kind of the bare minimum for a game based on historical mythologies. That doesn't really make up for the visual design being so iffy and how it perpetuates those visual sterotypes and tropes. The very fact that we're having this conversation goes to show how little people actually understand what actual mesoamerican and aztec aesthetics looked like, what AoM did is just contributing to that issue. >Though that being said I'm pretty sure that's arguably the case for every other civ in Age of Mythology so whatever>It is. That's what makes the mesoautist's presence here so out of place.>they fit in age of mythology, is that wrong?I've seen people say this but I don't buy it. The Hoplite unit the Greeks have still has a Corinthian helmet and a Panoply breastplate. The Samurai unit still has a Kabuto helmet and Laminar armor, etc.I'm sure the specific details don't match any specific period or style of Hoplite or Samurai armor, but they still broadly evoke the right types of armor and at-a-glance appearance of how they should. Very few of the units and gods the Aztec have meet even that, again, low bar: As I said last thread, this: static.wikia.nocookie.net/ageofempires/images/4/47/Jaguar_Riders_AoMR.jpeg doesn't look absolutely anything like >>737488412 , or anything on the right side of >>737644268, or like anything in >>737498385 / pic related. The Jaguar Rider is one of the worst offenders, but there's still a few others as bad, and most aren't much better.6/?
>>737659027>some dudes in metal armor come out of nowhere, mounted on beasts and armed with weapons you have never seen before>suddently all your people start dying in droves from an unknown disease>the spanish ally with the tribes you have been subduing for centuries and together take advantage of your current struggles to take down your empireit was a fitting ending for such backward savages
>>737659369>for centuriesThe Aztec Empire was less than a hundred years old when the Spanish conquered it
>>737658838because the other half is just them again but if saintsyou know how yhwh stated that good and evil comes from him? that's the same here but applied to each god. the pendulum swings basically>>737659027>their gods demanded suffering and sacrifice.don't be retarded. they oppose that. sacrifice is a necessity because the EARTH demands it, and they quite literally sacrifice themselves to the EARTH. if they don't do that, the universe stopsthe aztecs simply believed in Transubstantiation>the change of the whole person into the substance of a certain godpeople became living Eucharists that the EARTH then ate through sacrificeit's basically the sane sacrifice jesus did. that's why their priests had discussions with the catholic priests, and the natives assimilated jesus fast. there was nothing new under the table. they even had the concept of sin and salvation from sin
>>737659425their subject tribes were enslaved for long enough that the spanish themselves were astonished at the cruelty they showed towards the aztecs once they were finally defeated, and who can blame them when all those fuckers did was take your people to sacrifice to their gods
do you think aztecs were able to chill and party like everyone else, or did being occupied with thoughts about whether the rain god had enough children sacrificed for their crops that season kill their vibes? imagine walking to the market to look for a gift for your cousin's wedding and going past the temple where some guy in a jaguar fursuit is ripping someone's face off on the way.
>>737659425It's funny because the same thing happened to the Inca.
I tried out Retold for a few hours, and it feels nice to play. Some of the deity art is worse than in the original, like Zeus and Odin, but at least Loki looks more like the trickster he's supposed to be than just some scary evil guy,
>>737659607There were no "subject tribes", everybody the Aztecs conquered were city-dwelling pyramid-building Mesoamericans who were more or less culturally identical to them (and yes, that does include the practice of human sacrifice). The overwhelming majority of Aztec vassal states did not join the Spaniards and the two main ones that did were not Aztec vassals at all, Tlaxcala was a fully independent state that happened to be losing a long-running struggle and Texcoco was an Aztec city-state that switched sides due to a dynastic struggle, with most lesser states that joined them only doing so after being militarily subdued or coerced by them and the Spanish.
>>737642952>>737642696
>>737659817>Tlaxcala was a fully independent state that happened to be losing a long-running struggle and Texcoco was an Aztec city-state that switched sides due to a dynastic struggleSounds like the Middle East/Levant.
>>737659609>do you think aztecs were able to chill and party like everyone elseapparently you could just write poetry/a song and use it as a prayer instead of just sacrificing
>>737658035>>737658186Kino
>>737639903NTR SmileNTR DanceNTR Body
>>737659817>culturally identicalNot really true. The Aztecs were invaders. They were originally from the Pacific Northwest and had settled in Nevada/Arizona/New Mexico for some period of time before eventually traveling South into Mexico. As they tried to settle and conquer central Mexico they stole and warped the religion of the Mayans and Teotihuacan in order to get local populations to submit to them (same thing Christians have always done and similar to what the Romans did with Greek culture). The Aztecs followed a prophecy that they believed Mexico belonged to them but their origins are utterly unrelated.
Ah ok... they're ruining AoM with cheap slop, cool. The original and Titans will forever be peak. Too bad.
>>737654945Like you mentioned, the whole game is like that.
>>737657282Celtic would be neat, Irish mythology is fun, and very underutilized in popular fiction. And as much as I don't look forward to the low effort repetitive "saar" jokes, Hindu is obvious, they're around a long time, there's architecture, lots of gods, obvious units to have, etc.
>>737660370Based
>>737639903wew
>>737660495>and Titans will forever be peakThis how I know you never played AoM and just want to shit on 'new thing.'
>>737660574Have Indians become less litigious lately?
Well i'm an expert in Atlantean history and i can say all the Atlantean unit designs are 100% accurate.
>>737660475Wrong. The Aztecs, like the rest of the Nahua people, are generally agreed by modern academia to have originated from the Bajio region of northern mexico, not anywhere within the modern United States, let alone the Pacific Northwest. The wider Uto-Aztecan linguistic group are thought to have come from what is now the American Southwest, but that's like saying that the English come from the Ukrainian steppe. Sure, it's technically true, but only if you arbitrarily consider proto indo-europeans from 6000 years ago to be the exact same thing as medieval englishmen.Anyway, even if what you said was even remotely true, a significant portion of the peoples the Aztecs conquered were fellow nahua ethnic groups, i.e also "invaders", and their culture was extremely similar to the non-nahua ethnic groups as well, so yeah.
>>737642696Holy Fucking SEX me behind her
>>737660837No. That is 100% not true. They are originally from the coast of Washington. They spread down into Utah. They called their original homeland "Aztlan" which is generally believed to be what is now Salt Lake City.
>>737660969"Generally believed" by who exactly? All decent modern historiography i found places their origin in Mexico, and the older, more outdated stuff placed them in the Southwest. There are even natives in that specific part of northern mexico whose mythology states that they currently live in the ancestral land all the people down south say they're from.
>>737660517bara incel vs CHAD
>>737660969>Salt Lake Cityheh. salados
>>737659343Shut up faggot
>>737661349i wonder who could be behind this post
>>737657617My sisters are all size queens so they're only with black or Hispanic guys. I got a gay brother who likes white dudes tho...
>>737661349Kek, this
>>737661409cortez
>>737659343Cont>>737658908Maya and Aztec pyramids look pretty different, so while yes, Kukulcan is roughly analogous to Quetzalcoatl, heavily basing the Quetzalcoatl pyramid in game on Chichen Itza's temple is still not particularly great. And as I said, they could and should have just used the Tezcatlipoca temple design for Quetzalcoatl instead, since it's already based on Aztec temples to Quetzalcoatl>>737653261>>737654171>737654458>>737654584Their Coatlicue design is actually one of the less iffy ones. As with the architecture I wouldn't call it good, but it at least has some of her iconography even if not much of it. The Rabbits/Centzon Totochtin are also mostly inoffensive: I wish their ornaments jewelry was more inspired and their animations made them look drunk or something but they're probably even more passable then Coatlicue>>737655823Have you seen what the actual units they went with look like? The warrior priest and teixiptla, jaguar rider, popocatepetl and iztaccihuatl etc are samey looking messes of headdresses, collars, loinclothes, etc. They aren't particularly readable as is. The god designs also only show up in splash artAgain, I'm fine with them taking liberties and making their own designs up as long as their ornamentation at least vaguely looks like shit the Aztec and their gods wore and have some references to their actual iconography>>737657282>>737657534>>737660574>>737658546The Inca are Andean, not Mesoamerican. The two regions had very little contact and are about as far apart from one another as London is from Baghdad, see picThe Aztec being added shouldn't be seen as "already covering" anything in the Andes. Hell, I wouldn't even say that the Aztec should prevent the Maya from getting in, who are actually Mesoamerican, since the game has two European civs (Greeks and Norse) and two East Asian ones (China and Japan), though I'd still certainly prioritize the Inca, Hindu etc whose regions have zero playable civs7/?
Imagine if every time someone wanted to discuss a game, some nigger came in spamming walls of text about how the game isn't accurate to IRL history. Even the ones that aren't claiming to be realistic or accurate to history at fucking all.Imagine if trying to figure out if the new Mario game was any good you'd have to dig through walls upon walls of historical autism about how Italy came to be and how their fashion evolved every single year since the 1500s or some shit in order to justify how Mario shouldn't be wearing overalls.
people discusing, mean while nords will wear horns
>>737661932Every single game/ip/etc has someone trying to ruining any form of discussion. Mesoanon used to just add interesting tidbits but he clearly is just wants to be angry about something and now we can't talk about fucking AoM.
>>737661703Why are you sperging out over this?
>anons feel anger at factsnot just them. why are people like this?
Next are indians.Hope you like elephants and Asura.
>>737661932i swear nobody talks about the actual game in these threads, its bizzare
>>737661703>>>737657534 (You)Don't fucking quote me again. Your entire shitpost is just some sperg effort>>737661932>>737662070>>737662379Because it's someone from /vst/ on the aoe generalthey do this there too
>>737662372
>>737660370In reality, girls like her are fiercely loyal to you, to the point where they're physically and mentally abusive. The only way you could have your NTR fantasy is if you couldn't get her pregnant with the 3-5 kids they always want.
>>737661932This. I'm sorry for and I sympathize with mezoanon's plight, but Age of fucking Mythology is NOT the setting to bring that sort of heavy handed autism to.
>>737642245Damn, she's cute. Papa Cortez and Pizarro had the right idea about these girls
>>737661932I just tune out the Mexican autismo any time he makes or details a thread like this. He's not even right about half the shit he posts anyway. But you're right.
>>737662638Perfect.
Does Mesoanon have a link to all of their image breakdowns? I find them quite helpful and entertaining as a fellow /hist/ autist
>>737663613No, but I do have links to gay porn, would you like that instead?
>>737661932Yeah it's why history troons are all such faggot losers. Imagine being so stupid you study shit that already happened and is already recorded. Redundant major for low IQ cucks
>>737644268mesoanon how true is that text about Huemac not being able to find a woman with an ass fat enough? you know, the one where some sorceresses mock him for that and he then proceeds to fuck them
>>737644974>Aztecs are pretty strong40% wr at best tho
>>737664306>nigga is named Hue>isn't from BrazilThe missed potential is so astronomic I have to hate the aztecs out of principle for not settling down south.
>>737664306
>>737663849History is interesting. But the fatal folly of history, anthropology, archaeology, etc academics is their self righteous, arrogant delusion that it is "important" and that thusly they are too. It's really not in the grand scheme of things. It's a subject of fascination and nothing more. Studying it and learning about it does not change the world for anyone really. But you'll never meet anyone more self important and aggrandizing than someone with a degree in these fields, and that lack of self awareness and humility is generally why no one likes them or wants to hear anything they have to say.t. Used to be an archaeologist, got real tired of the terminal egotism infecting every single person I worked with. We were digging holes in the middle of nowhere to collect broken pottery and filling out spreadsheets for barely minimum wage, it's not that serious or valuable.
>>737661703Cont:>>737659027>>737659607>>737659369Incorrect.Firstly, there were no "other Mesoamerican [tribes...]"The region had cities, writing, formal governments etc going back many millenia, see pic. These were city-states, kingdoms, and empires. The only "tribes" were at the fringes of the region, hundreds or thousands of kilometers away from the Mexica of the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan and even the edges of their empire. (The Mexica and other Nahuas/"Aztecs" did actually originate as some of those fringe tribes, though)Case in point, Teotihuacan was a city from 1000 years before the Aztec existed in the same valley, and the city of Tlaxcala was one of Cortez's main allies, and both were respectively on par with some of the largest contemporary Roman and Spanish cities of their time, with Tlaxcala also being a republic with a formal senate (and Teotihuacan also potentially being a democracy) and was praised by Cortes to the extent as seen here >>737512584. By many estimates the Aztec Empire, Classic Maya civilization etc was comparably densely populated to major parts of Europe at the same time. Secondly, as >>737659260 notes, basically to perhaps literally everybody in Mesoamerica also did sacrifices and worshiped a somewhat shared pantheon of gods. Nothing the Mexica did was inherently different in terms of practices from what everybody else was also doing, the Mexica were just the best at it and did the most of it because they were the most militarily successful and powerful group in the region.The actual reason Cortez got allies against the Mexica is NOT because they were "evil and insane" (and saying that + "Cortez gave them what they deserved" is highly ironic when Cortez and other Spaniards praised their cities, social order, systems of law, etc), but actually because their political system was loose and hands off, and that enabled opportunistic side switching as a way of gaining or retaining political status and power.8/?
>>737658473Base AoE3 is f2p forever. That's why it has more players.
>a game around the mythological aspects of various cultures>the /hist/ sperg believes mythology is literal realI'm picturing this sperg literally dressing up like a fucking wigwam occupant and screaming 'yyyyyasaaaassss heart eating gives courage'
>>737665030>>737659027>>737659607>>737659369ContThe Mexica of the Aztec capital were conquerors, but they (like most Mesoamerican empires, due to lacking draft animals and the difficult terrain) mostly left existing kings, laws, customs etc in place, and also usually didn't raze, massacre, or mass-enslave cities (tho there were exceptions)But this left subjects with their own identity, agency, and interests, so they had the ability and incentive to opportunistically secede, defect, etc, especially when their capital was in a weak position. You'd often see a state allying with or pledging themselves to a second state (since subjects mostly got left alone), so both could then work together to take out their capitals or rivals, and then the first state would be in a position of high status within the new kingdom/empire they helped prop up for the second state.That's what happened with CortezThe Mexica themselves rose to power in similar circumstances, and other Mesoamerican states continued to ally with Conquistadors against their rivals even decades after the Aztec fell. Also most states who allied with Cortez only did so after Moctezuma II died and smallpox broke out, so Mexica were already vulnerable, and most of those allies were also "core" states that benefited (to a degree) from Mexica conquests, by the time they switched sides they just had less to lose and more to gain by doing so since those benefits were already jeopardized. Also, only some Aztec subjects defected to Cortes, not most, and many only switched sides after being beaten or otherwise conditionallyFor more info see pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/int/thread/220614413/#220624574 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64935126/#64961571 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 + the other posts I link to within that /k/ post and the two posts of mine directly preceding that one 9/?
>>737665030What's the point of posting all this when you're just dead wrong about it? Embarassing and pointless.
>>737665210how tho, i'm curious
>>737665256Everything he said in that post is false.
>>737665287>i..its false because i say so!
>>737665287it isn't, the people the aztecs conquered really were all urban societies that all also practiced sacrifice, he's 100% right about thatcan't comment on comparisons to real works cultures tho
>>737639793Do the aztecs really need a ranged hero? I played against the Greeks and got rekt by centaur spam.
>>737665030Your posts are way too fucking long, the one post you pointed out as being right got the point across just fine
>>737665554Either that or warrior priests need a buff, their DPS is good but they're made out of wet tissue paper so they usually die before they get to do anything.
>>737665554what's that shark riding unit and the water ele goblin at D tier?
>>737665092>Base AoE3 is f2p foreverwait, it is?
>>737665554>Wadjet and dryad on D tier>Caladria C tierholy bait
>>737640031What it actually says is "I am going to do this move on your dick tonight"
>>737651521Generic brown mad
>>737665786Nereid: Atlantian naval myth unit. Was exclusive to Hyperion prior to Retold.Servant: exclusive naval myth unit for Oceanus; it's a naval healer unit
>>737665786They are atlantean myth units. The shark riding girls are called Nereids and are decent to control water whereas the water goblin is called a servant, it is absolute trash which does shitty damage and heals units but isnt particularly good at it? iirc.
>737665190Cont:>>737660475>>737660969No, what >>737660837 says is correct. Actually, then there are even some proposals which actually have Nahuatl and Proto-Nahuatl in Central Mexico as early as Teotihuacan's time, with the Teotihuacanos potentially being proto-Nahuatl speakers, though I'm not quite clear on what that would mean for the alleged Nahua migrations from the Bajio region down into Central Mexico in the Early Postclassic period that gave rise to the "Aztecs" as we know them.>>737660517see >>737659202 and >>737659343 , the degree to which most of the other Civ's are visually off isn't nearly as bad as how the Aztec have it. I do admit that the Vikings are one of the few groups that tend to get visually butchered in pop culture as close to as badly as the Mesoamericans do. But even then I wouldn't say the vikings have it quite as badly, for a few reasons I can clarify on if anybody gives a shit, but even in AoM specifically, most of the viking units still have chainmail, helmets (even if inaccurately horned ones), and some actual armor and clothing the vikings and other Medieval Europeans had. By contrast almost none of the Aztec units have actual Tilatmli, Huipil, Ichcahuipilli, any sort of helmet etc.>>737661932>>737662679>>737662063You don't have to give a shit, obviously, but I think you're underestimating just how off the Aztec are in the expansion. See my reply directly above within this post: Even by AoM's standards, it's handled pretty poorly. I'm also not trying to stop anybody else from talking about it, I just gave my opinion in >>737644268 and I'm responding to people who replied back. Had nobody responded I wouldn't have kept posting.Still since you all think it's getting annoying, I'll try to dial it back, especially for future AoM threads (if I post in them at all)10?
>>737639793Can we make it so women paint the upper half of their face again? Literally sexo incarnateThanks.
>>737665830Yea. It is.
>>737665903Wadjet is trash. Dryads and caladria I'm willing to concede.
>>737665554>Argus B tierWho tf made this list? That unit is absolute garbage.
>>737666218Yea its awful. Draugrs and battle boars are A tier atleast but they are in the bottom two tiers of the list respectively.
I wish histamine would drop resources for me to study up on mesoamerica.
>>737666316Almost the entire D row belongs in B at the very least.
>>737642443>posts a unaesthetically pleasing looking """white woman"""
>>737666018Cont:>>737665570DESU you're right, I probably could have just directed them to that and >>737659817 and then linked to my past posts about the topic. I just get passionate about this stuff and like providing info. As I said in >>737666018 I'll try to tone it down. >>737665210>>737662928List the specific claims I said you think are incorrect and I'll clarify on them and/or post citations and sources>>737664306For those unaware, this anon is referring to pic relatedAnyways, the historicity vs mythological nature of the Toltec are a huge can of worms. I personally get the impression that the consensus is that they are mostly, if not entirely mythical. Obviously the whole Huemac incident has shape-shifting gods and such too. As it applies to Age of Mythology though and people thinking I'm being too autistic and stuck up about muh historical accuracy, I would have been fine with the devs using stuff from the Toltecs or even Teotihuacan as representations of Aztec myths. Again, the issue isn't that it's not 100% historically accurate Aztec stuff, the issue is that what they went with doesn't tie into Aztec or even more broadly Mesoamerican visual motifs at all. >>737659609>>737660121The Aztec 100% had chill, "normal" parts of their culture. Parents cherished their children, comparing them to precious feathers, jade, etc in terms of their value and fragility, you had kids attending schools, people betting on board games at markets, etc. Sacrifice was just one (though an important) part of their religion that itself was just one (though an important) part of their society.As it applies to parties, this is a great overview: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/732q6g/what_do_we_know_about_aztec_parties/dnosu3c/ , there was a second askhistorians post I wanted to link but I'm trying to rush through my replies here since anons are saying I'm getting on their nerves and I have a migraine, so that one will have to suffice.11/?
>>737666631Cont:>>737659319Depends on what sort of subtopics you're wanting info on. Me and my friends have a WIP bookchart here but it's pretty unfinished. I also admittedly don't read many generalist overview books, rather I tend to get my info from academic papers in journals and conference presentations or specific book chapters I read when following citations in other sourcesAnyways, while I'm waiting for you to specify what particular subtopics you're interested in, I'll defer to what /r/askhistorians's booklist has (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/books/americas/latinamerica#wiki_general), despite being reddit, the Mesoamerican content there is generally very high quality. Really I'd recommend binging posts on Askhistorians in general, a friend of mine compiled a bunch here: https://pastebin.com/Mc881KkN though this was put together many years ago and there's plenty of additional posts now.>>737658363Yes, I and moreso one of my friends helped write them. The videos are good, tho they don't cover the political dynamics and motives of the different Mesoamerican states and kings involved in the fall of the Aztec as much as we would have hoped since Cobbler was very focused on the Spanish perspective/side of those things. If you look for MajoraZ's comment on each video, those delve into some of the info that didn't make it into each script about that. On part 1 and 3 the comment should be pinned, but in part 2 you'll have to scroll down to find it. >>737663613No, but maybe we can add a drive folder to the resource document we're working on. >>737659616Both were just especially recent Mesoamerican and Andean political networks, respectively: Both regions had civilizations and empires going back many thousands of years. See the pic in >>73766503012/12 for now, I know anons are getting sick of me this thread so that will probably be it unless someone has follow up questions/the anon wanting book suggestion replies
>>737639793
>>737639851Based beaner bro, I grant you the title of honorary white. I've never liked em either
>>737666809>>737666631look you autistic retard, NOBODY FUCKING CARESTHE GAME IS NOT A FUCKING HISTORICAL ONE YOU RETARDED FAGGOTTell me, how many primary and fucking secondary sources have mentions of a fucking medusa (whoopsy did I trigger you since they're sisters????), a minotaur or a scorpion manI get it. You're a sperg who cannot help itself. Kill yourself instead of slopping up /v/ with /hist/ posts that don't fucking matter
>>737666631Aren't native American tribes absolutely notorious for not having written histories? It's all pictographs and oral history.This feels like a historian's version of fan fiction. Like, not denying that people didn't like fat asses, but native American history is notorious for relying on recovered remains and artifacts to demarcate past lands and tribe movements because they never developed a written language until post-colonization
>>737667019Bro its not that serious, calm down.
>>737666631>pic Why did Tezcatlipoca do it bros???
>>737639851"latino" is not a race.
>>737644268Why is it when japs and koreans casually depict ancient mesoamericans they're do way more proper research than most professionals in the west?
>>737667119The Aztecs did not collapse into dust or immediately morph into modern mexicans when Tenochtitlan fell. There was a 100 year or so period when Mesoamerican culture was very much alive, only under Spanish rule. During that period, the Spaniards recorded all the local history they could get their hands on, as did the native nobility they taught how to write. Historians didn't extrapolate all that text from statues they dug up, if that's what you were assuming.
>>737642245is that mold all over the ceiling? i don't get how you'll see these south americans in these webms dancing/gyrating with clear, immaculate skin but then be living in literal dumpsters
AoM threads are so cursed. First you have no-life fags crying AI every single time when there hasn't been any AI art since the pre-release beta.Now we have some no-life fag art history major camping the board to make sure everyonw knows the woman riding a jaguar fighting a minotaur and a giant scarab beetle isn't actually wearing stitch perfect garments typical for mesoamerican peasant women.
>tits>pits>feet>game discussion>fun racism>ewhores>historical autist giving interesting feedbackgood thread. this should be the standard in any /v/ thread, instead of any gacha or retarded eceleb talk.
>>737667610>>historical autist giving interesting feedbackThere's nothing of value in his posts, anon
>>737667610None of that guy's posts, despite the intensive autism and bloviating, are actually valuable or particularly true. He has thrown a lot of stuff in there that is not backed up by actual historical sources.
>>737667818>>737667727oooooooooohh is the little polturd seethingyes yes he is
Which Aztec major god are you playing as? I'm enjoying Tezcatlipoca the most. Obsidian Mirror is such a great god power. Also his Obsidian Shard mechanic + Soul Masters are an amazing combo.
>>737639903Could pass as a smelly pajeeta.
>>737668001Competitively quezt is the best. Tez is hard to pull off and huit is just bad.
>>737639793Why are primal latinas so kino
>>737666631>Several sorceresses made fun of Huemac for his inability to get women who were fat enough>Huemac then had sex with these sorceressesInstant loss bros keep on winning
Here's the actual, 100% accurate myth unit tier list (that doesn't include Demeter or the Aztecs).
>>737639903She needs to lose weight
>>737668550What makes Scarab A tier but Behemoth D tier?
>>737668550>Not as painfully slow>The explosion on death does a ton of damage and has a large AoE
>>737669145NTA but if I had to take a gander, Scarab poisons an entire army when it dies meanwhile Behemoth is just ass.
>>737669349meant for >>737669145
>>737668550>Kamaitachi >C tier>accurate MU tier listYou're joking right?
>>737669425>Also anubis in C tierThis list was made by a person who doesn't raid early game
what is her problem?
>>737669425Kamaitachi isn't very good, it just happens to be paired up with an amazing classical age god power + possibly Amaterasu's shield. Anubites aren't that amazing at raiding either since they're not all that fast or high damaging.
>>737669740>anubites... they're not all that fast
Test
>>737669997>Testyou got positive. it's AIDS :(
Hoping for SumeriaWild swing for ZoroasterImpossibly hoping for Pegana
>>737669585She needs cock
>>737669585Needs sex from Raidou Kuzunoha
>>737669740Dont know if this is bait but razorwind Kamaitachi are amazing. Pair them with goshinboku tree and you have a eco killing suicidal raid boss which spawns back every minute.>they're not all that fastDude do you even micro?
>>737639793does the new DLC come with new campaign or is it purely new race for multiplayer?
>>737670232Thanks doc>>737670730Has a campaign with 10 missions.
>>737668001>Obsidian Mirror is such a great god power>use it against demeter>now you have wither:(
>>737639851youve got to be shitting mehttps://files.catbox.moe/28a7pk.webm
>>737660370ntr.. wife?
>>737670875new moana movie looking good
>>737670719>which spawns back every minuteNot him but that tree has a very long respawn time.
>>737670875eww
>>737655540>sketchYou can tell it's AI because the "sketch" is already fully shaded, almost like someone took the finished AI image and slapped a monochrome filter on it.
>>737670875SEX
>>737671014It can accommodate 2 MUs. Just stagger their spawn time.
>>737640031Nerd
>>737639851You are gay
>>737671407>all that makeup>all those ai filters>nopalep
Bump
>>737673542is "Bulover"
>>737666809cont:>>737667019If you actually read my fucking posts you'd know that my issue isn't that AoM isn't following real history nor is it that it's not 100% visually accurate to actual Aztec fashion. Hell, I literally said in one of the posts you're replying to that I would be fine with the AoM devs including shit from older civilizations rather then the Aztec specifically because the Aztec did mythologize some of those older civilizationsIt's fine for Age of Mythology to include shit from Aztec mythology, or the Toltecs or Teotihuacan (which the Aztec worked into their myths), and it's fine for AoM to take significant visual liberties to put their own creative spin on Aztec and more broadly Mesoamerican aesthetics. Again, for you and >>737667581 I just want it to be LOOSELY using actual Mesoamerican aesthetics as their starting baseline before they start changing visual shit, and for the most part they aren't even meeting that low bar. To use the Romans as an example, since that's more familiar to people then the Aztec, I wouldn't demand a 100% accurate sort of Lorica segmentata and a centurion helmet down to the specific details as used in a specific time period or region. I just want them to wear something that at least resembles Lorica segmentata and centurion helmets, at least. Instead what they did with the Aztec would be like if they depicted their centurions dressed as Conan the BarbarianFor fucks sake I said I liked the Ocelomeh from Fate >>737659202 and they have machetes and firearms. I do not have a high bar. >>737667275Not sure I agree with the premise, but maybe it's a combo of how Mesoamerica is even more obscure in East Asia then in the west, so most people bothering to feature it has an interest in it, and because in East Asia, their "Ancient civilization in a jungle" trope uses Khmer and other hindu civilizations, so they don't have to rely on Mesoamerican for that trope/aren't as exposed to western meso sterotypes13/14
>>737673941Shut up, nobody fucking cares.
>>737673941Cont:>>737667119Firstly, see >>737665030, these were city-states, kingdoms, and empires, not "tribes"Writing systems were common in Mesoamerica, most civilizations in the region had them. The catch is that most of them, under most definitions, only count as proto-writing. Under the strictest possible definition of writing, only the Maya script is a true written language. In any case you can glean a lot of information even from the less developed systems, see pic. That being said, even the Maya did not typically write out extended qualitative narratives much. Stuff like the Huemac tale, as >>737667285 says, was generally recorded by Spaniards or native nobles in the colonial period using the Latin script, based on oral histories or their existing books/manuscripts. Though I would dispute that anon saying the Spanish recorded "everything" they could get their hands on: Certain friars and officials did so, others tried to burn and stamp out existing texts and traditions, over time the Spanish crown increasingly invoked the latter approach. If you want more information on Mesoamerican writing and books, see posts 21 to 24 here: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64935126/#64962478>>737667818Specify what I've said you think is wrong and I'll back it up with sources, citations, or clarifications. I won't deny being an obsessive autist, but I pride myself on sharing accurate information and being intellectually honest. If you think I'm wrong, put your money where your mouth is and call out a specific piece of info. >>737674018Blame the people who keep accusing me of shit I'm not actually doing. The thread was about to 404 anyways when I was typing that up. 14/14 for now
>>737674206You've already ruined whatever reputation you had.
>>737639793Made for BWC
MesoAnon as much as I appreciate the effort there are going to be anons who just say you're wrong without elaborating because they think it's funnyYou can reply to people however you want but you'll probably be less annoyed in general if you just focus on the people with questions and stuff you can actually act onSave yourself the trouble for guys like that one guy from the other day quoting the Florentine Codex, someone who had sources of their own to argue with
>>737640235Big if true
>>737674206I've alway appreciated your loredumps over the years autistbro. Whenever there's mesostuff posted I can bet you'll be around. Kinda like Berniechad who used to post on every single waifu thread.
>>737658467Only uglify western deities obviously
>>737660621Nah I have played them plenty you giant retard faggot
>>737639793I started playing this game recently and so far in the campaing I find that I care more for the nameless blobs units I produce than the Atlantean guy. Also I didn't expect to get to Egypt somehow on what I assumed would be a Greek only scenario.
>>737676138>I find that I care more for the nameless blobs units I produce than the Atlantean guyWhen I was much younger I was the same, I always designated a unit to be "my guy" and kept him alive as best I could>Also I didn't expect to get to Egypt somehow on what I assumed would be a Greek only scenario.Prepare to be surprised
>>737668550>all those food costing myth units on the upper ranksI sometimes forget I'm perhaps the only retard playing MP in this shithole. Build cyclopses against me and I'll shut down your hunt and have you forfeit 7 minutes into the game. You put Satyrs on B tier when those lil' niggas will make life giga miserable and will straight up stomp every Norse strategy available.
>>737676138>Also I didn't expect to get to Egypt somehow on what I assumed would be a Greek only scenario.The main game and the titans DLC have an epic campaign which spans across continents. Only the recent Chinese, Japanese and Aztec campaigns are restricted to their own areas.
>>737676375>will straight up stomp every Norse strategy available.Ummm your godi, sir?
>>737676925>ChineseYou get to go to a shared underworld>JapaneseYou briefly run into Eitri and Brokk>AztecYou spend a third of the campaign in Greece, Norseland and the Greek UnderworldDon't go on the internet spreading lies now
>>737677465You spend most of the missions in mirror matches in the new campaigns tho.
>>737679089You spend almost every mission in the original campaign in mirror matches as well.
>>737655540If you want to prove your art isn't AI, nearly-identical "sketches" in different color scales is a fucking suspect way to prove it. I really dgaf who is convinced. But I know for a fact this shit is AI. I'm an artist with a marketing degree. This is AI.
>>737679960Prove it, then.
>>737667397I think it's a piece of fabric to hide the ceiling beams. A piece of fabric that may or may not be moldy, granted.
>>737640235>>737642443>>737666531The only thing you should be occupied with is jerking your small beaner penis to WMLF porn.
>>737680243>TattooNo thank you.
>>737639793Can we have a goddess ranking contest for AoM?
>>737662010To be fair of all the human Norse units, the Hersir is the only one with the horned helmet...maybe. Need to go and see if the Jarl doesn't change with upgrades.
>>737662501To this day I don't know why they put Asuras into Japanese.Could've instead put in any of the Kappa species in its slot.
>>737680617Kappas got a whole god power to themselvesI think it's a shame tanuki are scenario only
>>737680243>Colon, 2E me 4 enslave m9 spic assWhat gibberish is this?
>>737680773That's an Indian. Not Latina.
I just want an AoE2 mod adding the new AoM nahuatl voicelines to the AoE2 Aztecs
>>737667581>when there hasn't been any AI art since the pre-release beta.everything looks pretty AI to me desu senpai, pre-release Bast certainly was and i doubt they stopped used it since then
>>737680147I'm going to start with my weakest point: the airbrushed quality. Any person with editing software can do this with an airbrush or burn tool. The issue is that it looks like fucking shit, and no honest artist is going to lambast their whole image with that, but new artists like to do it just to make it look a little ""better"" like a soap opera director. AI is an aggregate tool, and tons of shit artists overuse airbrushing, so AI imitates that look. That means this is not necessarily AI, but if it isn't, it's a shit artist. But the composition is too good for me to think this is the case. A person with that skill wouldn't just shit airbrush over their project.Then we have the "sketches". This "sketch" is a grayscaled digital art piece. Not something before color has been applied to it. That's not totally rare in the digital art world. But given the above point, it's oddly fucking suspect to call something like this a "sketch".Then the technical: the hair has that oddly-flat/deailed look of AI. Why is it all on the same plane? Why does the red/organge snake have two heads? Why is her weird dick-snake 2D at her pelvis? The feet go from something that looks drawn to another out-of-space, lighted-for-some-reason object, with the added airbrushing. There's almost no form interaction: the snakes don't bend over her legs, the hands just kindof exist over her shoulders. This isn't something a 2D artist labored over.
>>737680937The point is latinas are just niggers with lighter skin tone.
>>737681070Only if we can get AoE2 Aztec voicelines in AoM.>ZONKEY
>>737681117>Why does the red/organge snake have two heads? Why is her weird dick-snake 2D at her pelvis?With regards to this in particular, two-headed snakes are a pretty common symbol with Aztecs, to the point that one of the ingame myth units is just a two-headed snake, the Maquizcoatl (though it does come from a different minor god)As for the pelvis snakes her name literally translates as "She who wears a skirt of snakes", and snakes tend to flow out of her because she's a creator/mother goddess and when she was decapitated snakes came out of her neck, she's a bit weirdI'm not the other anon but I just wanted to throw that out there, much like the hand necklace those parts are deliberate
Prostagma
>>737680517
>>737676965>lower range Also if you're being forced to mass Godi you lost that shit. You're not beating Atlanteans as Norse unless you giga rape them before Heroic.
>>737639903Eww
>>737639793That an AI slop isnt it? If it's actually like that I'd buy it again
>>737655540Nah for me it's simply "hot women in mainstream western game" is basically an extinct mammoth so any time I see them the only logical conclusion is it's generated by slop
for me, it's sexmexxx
>>737639793Woah it's official. Gaming is healing
>>737682638A deal's a deal.
>>737680243>"colonize me" and its literally just a white girl
>>737682903>it's her cock
>>737682586Dude you also have jarls to dive into a satyr backline. Norse can do just fine against Atty even in mythic age battles.
>>737685218She's actually just got a really deep vagina
>>737685234>there are niggas living in the same reality as me who jarl dive Atlantean fanatic backlines in MythicYou're only ever going to beat a Mythic Atlantean army with axeman spam in a timing attack. Otherwise it's literally impossible as Norse. If you didn't kill like 7 vills in Classic and deny a second town center you lose that shit, which is why Oranos is the number 1 god tight now since he's impossible to deny or properly raid.
>>737685712>Oranos is the number 1 god tight now since he's impossible to deny or properly raid.The devs thought that giving Apollo's underworld god power to Oranos as constructable building was balanced. That's how well thought out the titans dlc is. They should remove atlanteans from the fucking game already.
