>TMR sticks>hall effect triggers>gryo>back buttons>extra sets of triggers>trigger stoppers>turbo button>cradleall for $60
>wirelessis there a bigger goy indicator than using wireless contwowas
>>737681376then use a USB cable retard
>>737681376Retard >>737681326Missing the point: top tier touch pads for mouse optimized games
Feels good Ultimate 2 bros
>>737681413>>737681431cattle
>>737681326I bought a Pro 3 to play games that are dpad heavy and Im going to be getting the Steam Controller for everything else.
>>737681326(Gulp) gabebros...
I got an Ultimate 2C for £30 and it's been great, much comfier in the hand than the Xbox controller I was using.Having a dongle instead of Bluetooth is nice.
>8shitdoDo yourself a favour and buy gameSAAR or Vader.
I find it interesting that shilling of this brand skyrocketed after the steam controller news released.
>>737681326What is the point of controllers when keyboard and mouse exists and gives me better control over everything Only reason I could ever see use for a controller is VR or racing gamesIts crazy that consoletards still are so stupid they refuse to ascend to the master race of PC gaming
>>737681326i just want new dualsense 3 and not a chinese copy...
>>737681634>gives me better control over everything>only reason I could ever see use for a controller is VR or racing gamesretard
>>737681326i'll stick with ultimate 3
>>737681651dualshock 3*
>>737681326>no haptics>no touchpads>no endless possibilities for rebindsgabe raped you
>>737681326i have the 1st ultimate controller, what does the extra square button on 2 do?
>>737681376>options are badSometimes the alternative can be even better. Picrel>>737681618They are pretty good for what you pay for. Still buying the Steam Controller tho
>>737681634>What is the point of controllers when keyboard and mouse exists and gives me better control over everythingThey don't. Racing games, flight games, fighting games, action games and emulation all work better with a controller. Mouse and keyboard is better for shooters or strategy games.
>>737681326You can actually get them for $20 on sale.
>>737681431>mouse optimized gamesName one game that plays significantly better with a controller touchpad than regular analog sticks.RTS are just as garbage on touchpads as they are on sticks. MMOs need a million buttons anyways so those are still a no go on a controller. Shooters on a touchpad is a fucking joke.Controller touchpad is an awful middle ground between sticks and a real mouse that is good for nothing and bad for everything.
>>737681665It gives you worse control over everything. You can't compete against keyboard and mouse players thats why you need ai aim assist to aim for you in every game LMAO. You are a peasant. Imagine knowingly limiting yourself to less than 15% of the buttons we have access to on our keyboards LOOOOL then trying to act like you have anything over us.Get fuuuuuuucked HAHAHAAAAA
>>737681781?
>tfw $5 on the first steam controllerSucks to suck, nerds
I'm not buying chinese crap when I can buy American.
>>737681778Many games can't even be played with controller
>>737681781Okay, play God Hand or ace combat zero on a keyboard and tell me how much fun you had.
>>737681781>You have: carpal tunnelDamn controller bros we are missing out.
>>737681796>>737681721You type like a eurofag Hows it like being irrelevant and powerless, FAAAAAG!HAHAHAAAAAAAA console peasant BIAAAAATCH
>>737681326made of chinesium
>>737681875How's it like to be held hostage by millions of niggers ready to fall into violent anarchy for the smallest reason.
>>737681326no trackpad? what's the point?
>>737681590Cute little controller for cute little boy toy. :3
>>737681326>back buttonsBut only 2 and not configurable through Steam input.>extra sets of triggersNice, but Irrelevant compared to 4 back buttons and trackpads.>trigger stoppersNice bonus feature, but not worth buying a worse controller for.>turbo buttonNo need when every button can be made into a turbo for any other button through Steam input.>cradleNice, but again, not worth buying for.And you lose trackpads, capacitive sticks, capacitive grips, and proper back buttons. Not worth it.
>>737681326Where's the track pads?
>>737681634More comfortable than sitting at a desk. Why shouldn't I be able to choose? That's what the PC master race is actually about.
>>737681816>buy a 100 bukko Americuh Valve™Steam™©®¥ Controller™>check the label>"Made in China"
>>737681781Yeah. Traditional controllers suck. Thankfully GabeN has given us a controller that's not compromised compared to kbm.
>>737681976Why would you want track pads? They suck for gaming.
>>737681326battery? i assume it's dogshit on account of it not being advertised. all that tech makes the circuitry more complex which inevitably leads to inefficient power usage.
>>737682076i think you fell for the bait man
>>737681326>triggers that breakYeah great product
>>737682089>Why would you want track pads?Because they're great.>They suck for gaming.Wrong. What makes you think that? Have you ever even used them?
>>737681462>having an IQ lower than cattle and failing to plug in a USB C cable
>>737682243mmmm yes jewish goldstein irradiate my aryan goyballs
>>737681684>hapticsits called rumble>touchpadsuseless>endless possibilities for rebindsthis shit isnt even new from Steam. even fucking Nintendo has had rebinds for 6 fucking years
>>737681947i'll do you one better. what's the point of track pads? its worse than gyro aiming and infinitely inferior to actually mouse aiming. so whats the point?
>>737682296gabenyahu's devotees are dumber than cattle
>>737681326I just checked and funnily enough I got my Ultimate 2 (also purple) literally exactly 2 years ago, on April 26, 2024. Pic related, I took it on that day when it arrived. I shopped it, because the picture was taken with my screen in the background. I was talking to a friend who recommended it to me.For half a year my RT/R2 has been broken. I checked and it seems it's a common problem, you can google it.And since then I've been waiting for the new Valve controller. Xbox One and Series both lasted a year before they started drifting. 8BitDo 1.5 years.I hope Valve's controller will last as long as my Dualshock 1 (10+ years of daily usage and it's still working even now 10+ years since I stopped using it) or at least X360 (5+ years).
>switch gyrotrash
I just use an xbox 360 controller with the original windows dongleit just wekrs
>>737681431But I'm on pc. I have a mouse right there. The fuck do I need a trackpad on a controller for?
>>737682174>Have you ever even used them?nta but I've used a deck and I agree that trackpads suck for actual gameplay, gyro is simply way better.
>>737682305>it's called rumbleThat's called Vibration and is a separate feature. Haptics are more like HD Rumble.
>>737682376He says while thinking it's acceptable to buy a new Fisher Price toy gamepad every 3 months.
>>737681326Are there any modern controllers that have a more defined shape like old controllers used to? I don't like the flat featureless xbone style. I'd prefer something like a dualshock 2 or Xbox 360 controller.
>>737682439>>737682439>But I'm on pc. I have a mouse right there. The fuck do I need a trackpad on a controller for?
>>737681326Where trackpads?
>>737682440You don't play any games the the touchpads are for. You're a child and not a PC gamer. You play console games. You don't get it.
>>737682493Do trackpaddies really...
>>737681326How much does the 2.4GHz version cost?
>>737682512The only games I can think of are mouse-exclusive titles like RTS/grand strategy. Guess what? I use my mouse for those. I have zero desire to use a controller for those kinds of games, ever.
>>737682461I've had the switch for 6 years now and I could never tell the fucking difference between rumble and HD rumble and I fucking doubt the PS5 "haptics" are any different. ive even used the switch pro controller and xbox controller on PC and there's no difference between the rumbles>>737682512pray tell what psychotic game uses trackpads and are made specifically to be played with trackpads that can't be played with gyro?
>>737682602You also don't have a 65" OLED, couch, or wife right? So who asked you? Youre not the intended audience
>>737681525Based as same. Got the Gamecube and PS1 colors for me and my gf
>>737681326torture and kill all subhuman thirdworld consoleniggers shitting up this board
>>737681326Ultimate 3 when
>>737682639>and I fucking doubt the PS5 "haptics" are any different.They are marginally better but you very quickly stop noticing any effect. R&C rRift Apart is just about the only game that meaningfully used the tech.
>>737682467Gave that anon a break, tendies are having a very bad time lately.
>>737682639Wow you are really a stupid personThe haptics are IN the touchpads retard. It's not something you can experience otherwiseIt's called games that use the mouse anon we all know you only play slop and are not a PC gamer. I get it Obvious low iq is obvious
>>737682658Why would anyone play RTS games in their living room on a controller???
>>737682727>my touchpads vibrate when i touch themdoes your dildo vibrate when you put it up your ass to?
>>737681326wake me up when new controllers are not shaped like an oversized bun
>>737682742Why would I be talking about rts games
>does all the things Gaben's controller does for half the priceI'll order one if my 8bitdo Ultimate 1 controller ever breaks. So far it's lasted 4 years and showing no signs of deterioration.>>737681816>I'm not buying chinese crap when I can buy American.As a European, this would actually have been a good argument IF the US hadn't pissed off literally the entire world and all of its allies. As of right now, I fully consider the US to be a hostile country. Maybe that'll change when the orange man is shot dead and the crybaby redneck retard Vance takes over but I'm not holding my breath.
>>737682742well to LARP of course
>>737682824You aren't our allies. We babysat you and gave you advantages for 80 years while you sat around hating and shit talking us the entire time just like you do nowWell have fun paying for it yourself lmao
>>737682805Well what games would you plan on using trackpads for?See >>737682602
>>737682824don't forget the retarded tariffs on both sides>>737682893>NATO >ever lifting a finger pick one
>>737682950>don't forget the retarded tariffs on both sidesYeah that shit accomplished a lot of good lmao
>>737682918>WHAT GAMES WHAT GAMESman there are so few games for casuals. You all play the same big name shit and nothing else
>>737682824>>737682893retarded destitute goyim cattle fighting amongst themselves
>>737683007>could not name a single oneI'll accept your concession then
>>737682335t. has never used track pads
>>737683031If I was the American government I would do better to shut down little Indian trolls like yourself that's making a mockery of a otherwise great nation. The US deserve better.
>>737681326>xbox buttonsno thank you
>>737683081bro everyone has used a laptop
>>737683238Lap what?
>>737681634Sometimes I like to play a game on tv sat on the sofa.
>>737681326>Gaben's worst nightmare!>some fucking thirdparty xbox controller with a bunch of retarded shit and some actually useful extra buttonsthanks, marketeer-kun
>>737681326ctrl-f buy an ad
Did 8bitdo ever get rid of the need to use a phone app to program the back buttons?
>>737682335i used the steam deck as a web browser and trackpads were greatthey're the whole point of the steam controller
>>737683327I do button combos to set them
>>737683340>i used the steam deck as a web browsercoulda put some games on it
>>737683395i didbut i also used it as a web browser
>>737683423You ever 'ick on 'eck
>>737683423Did you use the trackpads while gamijg?Personally I never saw the point, especially on the deckbwhere yiu have a touchsceen anyway for mouse-only menus
>>737681376I got the wired version of the 2c for under 20 eurostan bucks on ali express, it's pretty good
>>737681326Are the controllers made for human hands yet, or are they still using the shitty tiny pads with directly angled down grips?>they areno thanks
>>737683523blud answered his own question and posted it nowaying im crine :skull:
>>737683523Chimpout
>>737683437no>>737683472yes, in fps trackpads are better than joysticksi also played pokemmo on it and there's a community layout made by a wizard with a radial quick menu with the trackpads
>>737683564What's the fucking point of having one then
>>737683590>yes, in fps trackpads are better than joysticks>i also played pokemmo on it and there's a community layout made by a wizard with a radial quick menu with the trackpads
>>737683634Whip it out and 'ick on 'eck right now fag
>>737681376I used to think the same but I got one of those cheapo gamesaar controllers with wireless dongle and it just works without noticeable latency.
>>737683541:blackclappinghands: blackclappinghands blackclappinghands
>>737683657no
>>737681684>no touchpadsAnd that's a good thing
Another mexcrement advertisement thread
>>737682440>gyro is simply way better.How much have you used each?And even then, gyro aim also requires a stick to make big movements. The trackpad is significantly better for that. And they're also great for touch menus.
>>737683798>i hate having choice! i don't want choice! i want the same technology for eternity for everyone with no improvements and no change!that's you and you sound stupid
>>737683849>The trackpad is significantly better for thatNo, trackpadpad is on par with flickstick
>>737683238Laptop trackpads aren't the same. Try again.
>>737683872>I need one controller that can do everything!>I cannot afford different controllers that do each of those things in a superior way!
The extra $40 is the Steamie tax. The more you pay, the bigger then fan you are. Really Valve should make the price $200.
>>737683872wtf that's him?
>>737683919Why? Because the steam controller uses haptic trackpads? Laptops have those too anon. Who do you think Valve's supplier is? They did not invest in engineering for a brand new exclusive trackpad design, it's a standard laptop part.
>>737683942it's not about affordability, it's about choicewhy does having 1 more item on the menu makes you so mad?>>737683960yep 100%
>>737683908>No, trackpadpad is on par with flickstickWell, yes, but better than traditional stick. Some people prefer being able to flick up and down too, which flickstick can't do.Also doesn't address touch menus. A lot of games benefit from having more buttons.
>>737684020>it's a standard laptop partfax my nigga
>>737684035>Some people prefer being able to flick up and down too, which flickstick can't do.You can't do that either if using the optimal flick technique on a trackpad
>>737681376other than bluetooth wireless has been faster than wired for ages
>>737681590I wish the Ultimate 2 had the same color options as the 2C. Some of them are really nice. I really like the Noctua looking one for example, I think they call it "Brownie".
>>737684072>faster than wiredPhysically, that's impossible, but I get where the confusion stems from when controllers have issues over wired either due to firmware or their use of an outdated wired connection with low bandwidth
>>737684072>wireless has been faster than wired
>>737684098
>>737681326>>737682376>Account based in: Malaysia
>>737684171the third button on the back is more gimmicky than anything on the new steamcontroller
>>737684260that's just a sync button
>>737681947What's the point, if I wanted to have the functionality of a mouse I'd use a mouse, valve once again fails to deliver anything meaningful to the market
>>737684020>Because the steam controller uses haptic trackpads?No. Try again.Actually fine, I'll tell you. It's because the layout is specifically designed for gaming. Laptop trackpads are unergonomic because you use them with your index finger and need to twist your hand to click, unlike a controller where you use your thumb to aim and click with your index finger.
>>737683919They actually, LITERALLY, are
>>737684395to sync what
>>737684461So the only difference is the ergonomics, got it.The trackpad itself is still the same part.
>>737684431Listen, if you can't understand that the controller is meant to be used on a steam machine, sitting under a tv and playing any type of game available on pc that's on you, your lack of imagination and curiosity isn't a problem with the market. If you haven't even attempted to use gyro + flick stick you really ought to be shutting the fuck up.
>>737684514iirc that button is only used to sync with a nintendo switch, so it's likely just there for compatibility
>>737684545The steam machine is not powerful enough for that, try again, also tvs are crap products
>>737684575oh okay thx
>>737684545if I wanted to console game I'd buy a switch. keep coping steamie>$2,000 for a prebuilt PC that can't be upgraded and has the specs of a PS4LMAO
>>737684656Your mums a crap product
>>737681326>No touchpads>No capacitive sticks and grip>No 2.4ghz
>>737684098Yeah green was the least-shit colour or there was a game themed one for something I've never played, but was £10 more. Would prefer darker colours but its whatever.
>>737684545gyro+flickstick alone already invalidated the need for trackpads
>>737684718Man this thing keeps becoming more expensive everytime it's mentioned it's gonna 10k by the end of the thread lol. Skill diff btw I have a $40 steam link and it works flawlessly with every controller I use on it.
>>737684920>i own every piece of steam brand junk hardware ever releasedwe know, steamie. you're no different to iToddlers
>>737681431>Missing the point: top tier touch pads for mouse optimized gamesnothing has beaten the mouse for over 60 years. get real.
>>737681326>GabenyahuGo join your hippy commune you mudslime worshiping zoomoid>It is a zoomers daily obligation to chant from from the river to the sea and prance around like a faggot and singing sandnigger gibberish
>>737681525Is that good for fighting games? I like Sony controllers for that but their analog sticks are fucking cursed and always drift after a year.
Uh oh, Netan_fan_#1 entered chat.
>>737681326I literally bought this controller a few days ago it has one of the worst dpads i've ever usedsomehow it's constantly sending double signals like you press up and it sends up up. Totally garbage for dpad gamesThis is a brand new 8bitdo ultimate 2cI also had a gamesir nova lite which was ok but the rb/lb buttons got loose and there is actually no good way to fix them since they use a very specialized rubber button membrane. Also it did not have hall effect triggers.
>>737684913>Use track pad outer region for viewsnapping view and preserve right stick for gradual X-axis movement>Do the opposite and have the track pad allow you to scroll your view while keeping the stick for flicks>Forget all that and let the track pad regions access every weapon/item available in a single pressIt's a product about options, that how we got gyro flick stick in the first place, the og steam controller players are a minority but the ones that stuck with it swear by their utility. They're worth having, otherwise why bother even making a new controller in the first place?>>737684952Or you could use the free app or any other alternative devices or software for streaming. Figure it out. Again, skill diff.
>>737684529Yes. And the ergonomics are what make it actually viable compared to a laptop. Glad I could clear that up!>>737684467They actually, LITERALLY, aren't. See >>737684461
>8ShitDo
>>737685290nah I'm good I'll play console games on my tv, not chopped pc ports using overpriced steam junk lol>$2,000 sub-par PC>$100 controller>all to play a catalog of 500 different $5 indie roguelite deckbuilders castlemanias xd
>>737685318Isn't the whole gimmick on this controller that the buttons are removable/swappable?
>>737685290>otherwise why bother even making a new controller in the first place?The answer to this is actually simpler than you're making it: the Steam Machine needed oneIt also needed to include the same input options as the Deck, since the Machine shares the same compatibility as the Deck (literally all verified Deck games are verified for Machine by default), so it the controller needed the same available inputs for the controller mappings to carry over properly.
>>737681326I think the dualsense feels better in my hands than ultimate 2. I own both.
>>737685102If the diagonals suffer from the same problem as the 2C does >>737681590, then avoid it like the plague. The d-pad is completely unusable for fighting games.
>>737681326most of these features are either irrelevant or detrimentalergonomics are by far the most important aspect of any controller and steampad 2 looks like a fucking brickalso 8shitpoo sux
>>737685302>They actually, LITERALLY, aren't. SeeSo it LITERALLY is the same part, but the context means that "it's good now I swear on me mum"
>>737685392Welp, that sucks. Know of any hall effect controllers that also has a top tier dpad?
>unreleased controller>not bound to the console wars>already making people seethe
>>737685358The ABXY paint is shit.
>>737681590Bought mine for $16. Mogs everything else at that price.
>>737681947I never knew how to gyro aim. Always used the sticks to aim, is there a way to switch to gyro aiming on demand or is it always on? I don't want my screen to be a jittering mess 24/7.
>>737684794Jeetoid viewing pixels on its ghetto tv
>>737685352>Bought monster hunter wildsThat explains a lot, my condolences.>>737685378Fair point although it does seem a little cynical to assume thats the sole reason, there was no such restriction when they made the steam deck, a device that arguably would have been more reasonable to not include them.
>>737685547I never quite understood why they included trackpads on the deck to begin with when it already has a touchscreen, but honestly that a separate discussion in itself
>>737685547wilds is literally a PC mustard rice game though. console was an after thought. it has everything steamies demand>no difficulty>minimal buttons to press>runs like shit no matter your specs>fake frames + fake resolution>day 1 DLCall it's missing is AI generated graphics for the full PC experience. maybe in wilds 2
>>737681326I have the Ultimate 1 and while I like it(despite its shortcomings) I'll be getting the SC2 as well.
>>737684913How does gyro+flickstick solve the issue of controllers not having enough buttons?
>>737685608because it's more comfortable and actually usable in games? you don't have to move your fucking hand to the screen
>>737681326>bought pic related>seemed OK for a couple of weeks>now it occasiionally resatarts for no fucking reason in the middle of us when it has plenty of battery (in games that I CAN'T FUCKING PAUSE)>sometimes it just freeaks out and opesn the steam big picture overlay, or takes a screenshot, or tries to adjust my fucking windows volume for no fucking reasonendlessly disappointed by the constant shilling of this company, the controller feels nice to hold but that's literally it, it's been a fucking headache, I had an easier time using my fucking DS4
>>737685680trackpads don't solve this either, they aren't buttons and mapping them as buttons feels shitty. I'd sooner use the back buttons for that before I run out of options.
>>737682384isn't that the Ultimate 1
>>737685698but the only games where a trackpad makes sense are games that use pointer control, and for those games I vastly prefer just using the touchscreen anyway so my input is 1:1For camera control (such as FPS games), you're better off using gyro+stick.The use-case for the trackpads is very niche.
>>737685429>So it LITERALLY is the same partYes. I wasn't arguing that.>but the context means that "it's goodYes. You use it differently with a different finger with your hand in a different shape. The differences make it actually viable.
>>737685787>Yes. I wasn't arguing that.This isn't you? >>737683081Feels like you've just been moving the goalpost otherwise.
>>737685786>The use-case for the trackpads is very niche.for you
>>737685838I really want to know what the stats are for how frequently people used the trackpads on the deck
>>737681376Nigger I use a wireless controller, mouse, keyboard and headphones. It's the 21st century.
>>737685715Maybe it's your USB ports or something? Never had a problem with mine.
>>737685869Same, also how many people use ALL FOUR back buttons since this seems to be an issue with the Ultimate 2 for these people.
>>737685821No. Some other anon. I just saw the comment about laptops and replied to it to point out it's not an accurate comparison.
>>737685750Ah, yes, Ultimate 1 2.4G. But both 1 and 2 have the trigger issue, that's why I'm waiting for the gabepad instead of getting Ultimate 2. Unfortunate, because aside from that, it was probably my favourite controller.
>>737685519>is there a way to switch to gyro aiming on demand or is it always on?The controller has capacitive sticks and grips that detect if your thumb or pinky is resting on them. Those can be used to toggle gyro either only when you're touching the stick or with the grip you can have it off while still touching the stick or vice versa. You can also set any button to toggle gyro so for example it turns on when you pull the left trigger.
>>737685786>>737685838BANE
>>737681634KBM is hard-carried by mouse. Keyboard sucks for gaming.
>>737686156Nah fuck off
>>737685727>trackpads don't solve this either, they aren't buttons and mapping them as buttons feels shitty.They're not as reliable as buttons and shouldn't be used for something like jumping, but they're perfectly usable for secondary actions like swapping weapons.>I'd sooner use the back buttons for thatThere aren't enough back buttons to bring it to the same level as a keyboard. The back buttons are also better used for shit like jumping or dodging while moving the camera or healing while moving.
>buying any modern-day, stick-floating (chink made) controller from an online retailer, without any [easy] avenue for returns and replacements(You).
>>737681326you forgot the part where it has shitty xbox layout and ergonomics and is therefore worthless
>>737686156Not necessarily. Unlike on gamepads or even fighting sticks you can press left-right-up-down at the same time. You can input commands in fighting games much faster.Keyboards are better for both fighting games and shmups. Plus, of course, games with a lot of hot-keys, like cRPGs, MMOs or strategies.
>>737686280This guy gets it
>>737681590I have the same one and it's completely won me over. I use the remapping and turbo functions quite often, since I hate having to spam a button when there's no skill involved. Just hold a button down for the usual 1-2-3 combo instead for those kinds of games. Such an improvement
>>737685727They aren't as good as buttons and you probably aren't going to map them to attacking or jumping, but they work more than well enough for secondary features like item management or anything where you don't need to spam the button constantly. I've even used track pads for a game with hot bar type attacks/functions by just being bit selective on mapping spammable and aiming sensitive functions to buttons and one off functions to the track pad. Even the awkward positioning of the Sony track pad feels better than having to stretch to reach distant keyboard keys. I'd also take them over back buttons which I think feel awkward to use and can be easy to accidentally press.
>>737685715My brother has one and he noticed that it gave wrong inputs at times, but it turns out you can reset them by pressing/holding the right buttons at the right time. It's in the manual and depends on the model, so look it up online. Fixed the problem my brother was having instantly
Steam controller is DoA when it arrives at $90.They've learned nothing from their previous hardware ventures.>release a "premium" product for $$$ aimed at a niche market (aka occulus rift)>flop>release a cheaper product priced below the competition at a general market (aka steam deck)>massive success
>>737686524imagine believing thisall the console controllers look like fucking decoy products next to the steam controller
https://gamesir.com/collections/pc-controllers/products/gamesir-g7-pro-aimlabs-edition
Why would I buy a controller for $90 when there are XBox and ps controllers for around $60. Like, what's the logic there. The majority of people wouldn't even use these touchpads.
>>737681376Yea it is the biggest indicator next to deliberately going out of your way to buy rainbow light keyboard, mouse and computer cases. Same goes for alienware if that is even still around
>>737681326pffffft i ain't buying no 8 butt dickif it ain't GAMESAAAR then i AIN'T INTRESTEEED
ACfag's really trying to make 'gabenyahu' a thing, huh.
>>737681376if you still question wireless then whatever ewaste you're using has worse latency than what wireless can offer
>>737686604>gmsaar
>>737686210>>737686414>There aren't enough back buttons to bring it to the same level as a keyboardThere isn't enough trackpad surface area either as you have like 4 per pad (yes you can split it even further with radial/touch menus but I wouldn't recommend it for the sake of your own sanity. I also think they've put these trackpads too low compared to the deck's ergonomics, although that's hard to judge without holding the controller in-hand.
How do you connect those to the PC wirelessly? Like a gaystation pad? Isnt bluetooth shit for latency. I have a ancient xbox dongle but it does not accept my gamesir or switch pro only xbox.
>>737686759>you have like 4 per pad16. The touch menus work great. That's already enough for 99% of games and you can easily double it without even touching the other trackpad by assigning one of the back buttons to a layer shift.
>>737686906I don't use more than 4, it's too fiddly
>>737686743the discussion is not even remotely related to india you brainless npc
>>737686897da bwuetoofyou pay more for the dongle
>>737686938>company literally called gamesaar>not related to saarland
>>737686937I've never had issues even with 16. I don't use them for super fast paced actions though, I could see that being a problem.
>>737681376adding extra input lag and annoyance with battery is worth if for the convenience of... uh... yeah i dunno man you're gonna be sitting in that chair and hold the controller the same way regardless. it's fucking retarded, just like wireless mice and keyboards
>>737687037lol retardthe best wired mouse has a latency of 0.6ms, the best wireless one has a latency of 0.9msif you're still a clueless wirecuck you're running shit with 4+ms latency range
>>737688040
>>737688040so there's extra input lag, just as i said. what was the point of your post again?
>>737688371are you running a 3000hz monitor? that's when the difference amounts to one frame
>>737686273>without any [easy] avenue for returns and replacementsMy 8bitdo's RB started double clicking after a year and I sent them a mail and they gave me a FULL REFUND despite it being way past return date lolUnless you live in timbuktu, anywhere in NA or EU is "easy avenue for returns"
>>737681326Redpill me on this controller, does it actually last a while or is it cheap Microsaar-like crap like the Series X/Elite Series 2 controller that last a year if you are lucky.
>>737688842>does it actually last a whileIt's a new product, how would we know? Anyone telling you it's one is a shill
I just have an xbox series controller as well as a ps5 controller for games that play better with that (motion controls).
>>737689090Well thanks, so it's at least another year for my reliable PS 5 controller until the real reviews arrive.
>>737688770>EUBrexitcels...
>>737685519what >>737686079 saidbasically if you just touch the trackpad or the joysticks, gyro turns on but you have to use the control layout with gyro onif you want it off, you can just switch layout or modify any layout with any setting you wish ex. you could set it on on trackpads, and off on joysticks (or viceversa) so that you can use it by just touching the one that activates it
>>737689090>ultimate 2>new???>>737688842I tried the Ult 2 momentarily and it's just a better version of the Ult 2C that I'm used toBut ultimately (hehe) I went back to the 2C because with the 2 you can't do d-input while wireless for whatever reasonBut the Ult2 has dedicated software where you can configure anything you want while the 2C doesnt
>>737681376I switched to wireless a few years ago, would never go back to wired. No wire tug is too good.
>>737685715It's always the same with highly rated budget oriented companies, if you get their products during their reputation building phase you get high quality at low prices, if you wait too long the quality starts to resemble the price. The fact that you bought their pad based on brand is a sign it's too late.
>>737686156It's crazy that some kind of analog solution hasn't been standardised for gaming keyboards
Should I get the GameSir Tarantula Pro or 8bitdo Ultimate 2?
>>737690769I dont know how good GameSir is but I wouldnt be caught dead buying something named some pajeet shit like gamesir please do not redeem regardless
At this point, those who know will choose optimally.The rest will be buying overpriced slop, be it from nintendo, valve or sony.
Are there any 8bitpoos or GameSAARs with playstation symbols?
>>737681326>$60 controlleryeah no thanks, I'll stick to my $30 gamesaar
>muh tmr>muh hallUp until a while ago I was using a japanese model DualShock 2 I bought on Liksang twenty years ago. The basic bitch potentiometers were still giving accurate readings and it was just the center spring that's become all noodly after all those years. The problem isn't the sensor type but manufacturers using the absolute dogshit quality sensors to save 2 cents on a component. Another weak link is shit like the rubber domes for the face buttons. A good one will last almost forever but cost half a cent more.
>>737681326TMR sticks are so fucking good man, this deadzone 0% shit is amazing, for the first time in my life I feel like I have precision using a noobstick.I don't know why they aren't standard, blows my mind that consoles don't use them.
>>737691091potentiometers will never be as precise as TMR or capacitive, it's like buying a new car with a carburetor
Is the 8bitdo pro 3 any good?
>>737681326I have an 8bitdo controller and it's good, but the difference between its dpad and the Steam Deck dpad is pretty big and I prefer the Deck's. The Pro 3 is probably a different situation, I have only had the Pro+ and Ultimate. For the type of games I play I may as well get their arcade stick instead.
>>737681376>old man yelling at clouds
>>737681376I have completely switched to wireless on everything. I will never go back in the cave.
>>737681326The remappable button placement on these are horrendous. I don't know why everyone doesn't put them on the back
>>737683327Steam input let you map them to whatever you want. At least that's the case for the Pro 2.
>>737681326you forgot that the gabenpad only works if you have steam installed and running while the 8bitdo works on pretty much any OS without any steam bloat
>>737681413the one big problem with usb is it doesn't play nice with gyro, but then again who'd be retarded enough to play an FPS on a controller
>>737693583>who'd be retarded enough to play an FPS on a controllerWhat's the issue with that exactly?
Reminder that OP's a subhuman SEA tendiesheep from Malasya >>737638652
>>737695501why are you posting your school bully
>>737682335the trackpads are a godsend for wii and ds emulation
Gamesar>8bitdohttps://gamepadla.com/But yes Gabe is being a jew.
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>>737695836All emulation in general. They're a great way to use emulator functions like save states and fast forward.
>>737696743>save states and fast forwardYou didn't beat the game.
>>737681326>indian/chink shill thread
>>737695552>implying a subhuman piece of corporate livestock like OP can be nearly intelligent enough to go to school in the first placenevermind the fact that I live in an actual country and not a shitholeLMAO>>737697432malay, actually (see >>737695501)
>>737691135>I don't know why they aren't standard,Patents.
>>7376813268bitdo is dogshit.
>>737696968Not only did I beat the game, I had more fun doing so
>>737697825You monster
>>737681326Would be good if the d-pad and left stick were switched. I prefer symmetrical controllers.
>>737681431This. I played city builders and rts games unhindered with my ol' steam controller. Hoping they'll nail it again.
>>737690769tarantula has such trash delay on the sticks that the 2 new versions of the controller are wired only, do not redeem..
>>737681326These things are faulty in my experience. That's the same reason I'm skeptical of Steam hardware, cause when a button stops working my enjoyment screeches to a halt.
>>737686604I wanted to get this but I'm not really a fan of the designAlso not a fan of the other designsThey need to come out with a non collab version of this
>>737690769You should get the steam controller.
>>737682439>>737681778>the fuck am I supposed to do with a car >there isn't even a place to attach my horses to it brainlet-kun...
>>737681326>all for $60you can get it for $30-40 on sale btw
>>737681326>GabenyahuThe consequences of pol and its impact on the websites quality have been devastating
>>737682493I sit like this
>>737681810I bought one for me and one for my friend.
>>737681326>wirelessInto the trash it goes. I hate being outnumbered by absolute retards 20:1.
>>737681697What the fuck Nintendo
>>737701271The difference between cable latency and (good) wireless latency is imperceptible in modern controllers
>>737681376The post that turbo baited and mindraped the snoycord, well done
>$25It even has rubber grips
>>737701664>I was merely pretending anons!
>>737681326>asymmetricalit could be free and I still wouldn't use it
>>737702642It's scientifically better than a symmetrical layout.
>>737702341Why are there over 15 Chinese controller brands b t w ?For what reason?
>>737702773There are only 2 good ones8bitdo and gamesaar
>>737702341But is it ribbed for my pleasure?
>>737702909They all buy from aknes though.
>>737688842>cheap Microsaar-like crap like the Series X/Elite Series 2 controller that last a year if you are luckyI wish this was a joke but that controller literally falls apart in a few months of usage. Hell of a prank by Microsoft selling literal trash for $150.
>>737702914It's a controller, how are you going to use it.
>>737681326>purpleFuck, I knew I should have waited. Got the black one about a month after Switch 2 came out.
>>737681326>Holding right on the d-pad>It registers diagonal presses unless you're super preciseNo thanks
>>737704265rib-related activities
>>737681525>for everything else.I haven't used a controller for anything that doesn't require a dpad since.... godhand. Anything with analog controls is utterly unplayable shit slop.
ugly shape, need more 360 shaped controllers (minus the dpad)
>>737681376They are clueless consumers, a jews best friend.
>>737702909They're all mogged by Flydigi
>>737699620It looks amazing with the faceplate removed but then you are missing the joystick rings.
>>737708138I think those let you swap the faceplate out but yeah I'd have to see some nice looking combos before I'm convinced. I would actually rock the zenless one if it wasnt a non-8k for xbox
>>737705860Based. Objectively the best controller, right here.
>>737681958>But only 2 and not configurable through Steam input.all 4 of ultimate 2's buttons are fully bindable in dinput mode
>>737681326>no six face buttonshard pass
>>737689814>with the 2 you can't do d-input while wireless for whatever reasonholding down B while starting the controller launches it in dinput mode, works in both 2.4ghz and bluetooth mode
>>737681376>is there a bigger goy indicator than using wireless contwowasyeah playing video games lol
>>737681326Where are the trackpads?
>>737681326i have the pro 2 it is ok but the dpad is noisy it squeaks when you press it sometimes
Imagine not being able to afford both.
>>737709273>holding down B while starting the controller launches it in dinput modeWho the fuck is supposed to figure this shit out? Who wants to do fucking button combos when turning on a controller just to make it function correctly? This shit reminds me of Linux.
Will the 8bitdo wireless adapter help with latency when using a steam deck dock?
>>737681781I unironically like stick aiming without aim assist. It adds an extra layer of challenge. Obviously not for pvp stuff, but against bot ai it's fun. I really enjoyed the RE4 remake shooting gallery challenges on stick whereas they would have been trivial busy work on kbm.
speaking of controllers, maybe it's because I hardly use controllers but I tried with pragmata and it just feels off compared to mouse+keyboard
>>737684152it's very possible but you're just a chatbot with outdated knowledge
>>737684152>wireless signals are speed-of-light direct to connector in a straight line>wired signals are a fraction-of-a-fraction slower than speed-of-light due to physical medium and beholden to length of cableYes, wireless can be faster especially if your dongle is connected directly to the USB port
>>737681326>NOOO DON'T BUY THE STEAM CONTROLLER!>BUY THIS OTHER CONTROLLER THAT IS CHEAPER BUT HAS LESS FEATURES!Do people really think they are making a good argument? The 8bitDo doesn't have the trackpads, touch sensitive sticks, and is missing a set of back buttons. Of course it would be cheaper.
>>737681376Its not 2011 anymore retard
>>737681932You act as if Europe doesn't have the exact same problem.
>>737681590I have a Ultimate 2C as well. The best controller I ever had, I say that as a 2D action platformer player mostly (Megaman, Castlevania, etc..). >>737685392IDK what people say about diagonals but I played SotN to test the controller once it arrived this year and I consistently managed to use spells so I'm doubtful about it.
>>737685001Hello Moshe
>>737681634M+K is best for certain games/genres, a controller is best for others.
>>737681781gyro closes the gap enough that any kind of aim assist is no longer necessary
