It's crazy how fast the Mario Kart Killer was forgotten.
>>737714609It just lacks the soul that Mario Kart has
uh huh, & where are mario kart world's Festivals? ;)
flopnic flopped again
>>737714609It's funny too because you faggots kept spamming generals every day on here which isn't allowed but mods are fags.Now even those generals are dying. How many of you jeets were paid by Sega to shill this game on here?
CTR had a legit community hereThis game died pretty fast
>>737718328Didn’t need to be paid. The hateboner /v/ has for Nintendo is crazy.
its actually over
>>737714609Lost all interest as soon as I saw Spongebob
Still remembered longer than Mario Shart World
>still having to wait for mk world to get dlc or new contentthis sucks
>>737718503its funny how that added that bomb battle in a update and no one cared about it after two days.
>>737718328>>737718445Faggots cry about how steam chart threads should be removed when in fact those threads will save you so much money on shit games. 6 months ago i almost pulled the trigger on buying this $60 sonic kart racing game until i looked up on steam charts when it released and saw only 10k players were playing the game. the general fags had you thinking it was WAY more and that this was a genuine mario kart competitor.fast foward a couple months later this fucking game is dead. god bless steam chart threads. they expose everything and make faggot shills shut the fuck up.
the shilling for this was insaneinsane
post yfw you didnt buy sonic racing shitworlds
>>737714609Well yeah, why does Sonic need to drive a car? That's fuckin' dumb
What do you expect when people choose an inferior product on name alone
>>737718761downsides to this >retards using sells to justify the purchase of a game>retards that think every game that's below 100k is a dead game>faggots trying to justify ditching the game just because it doesn't get updates constantly like a live service game
>>737718328jannies have dropped the ball with deleting generals latelyThat friendslop climbing game has had a 24/7 general here for over six months now
>>737718708Even the threads on /v/ are so dead that they can never get a full lobby. There's no way sales for it aren't about to slow down drastically now that the Switch 2 bundles are finally sold through.
I don't know who'd pay for a racing game? You race through every stage in the game in about 90 minutes, and then you're done.What, you're gonna re-race all the stages? But you just raced them.
is it just me or does the grinding in mario kart world feel like a downgraded version of this game
>>737719643you're basing only what /v/ says. you don't have the official numbers
>>737714609How come a video game with Sonic, Miku, Minecraft, Persona, and Yakuza not sold well? Sega probably thought they could pull off a Smash Bros or Fortnite.
>>737714609I worry about these shortcomings targeting Iizuka over time. CEOs tend to be retards when it comes to underperforming sales, and just blame whoever promised it would turn out good. If you look at Crossworlds and Shadow Gens and Frontiers, there's not much to complain about as far as being SONIC projects go. If you're blamed for not delivering expected sales, what exactly do you do to "make it better"? The only choice eventually becomes more market research and then you start making decisions hated by fans.
>>737720064Got my ass to play it by including Tangle. I ain't never played Fortnite or MKW.
PersonaRuins EverythingItTouches
>>737720064It solds poorly because Sonic fans don't want all those characters, and fans of those franchises want nothing to do with "Sonic".
>>737714609I didn't even know it existed. Games just get lost in the shuffle these days unless they're backed by a truly huge marketing campaign. I enjoy Transformed back in the day, but I probably wouldn't have paid full price for this anyway. Seems like the kind of thing that'll be on Humble Choice six months from now.
>>737718497Ditto... Still a really good and fan game but I did not buy it
>>737720205>fan game*fun gameOops
will sonic ever have another successful game?
>>737718445lmao, meanwhile I still get full lobbies in MKW every time I played>>737719643That has more to do with 4chan bleeding users, if it's not a gacha available on every system there just won't be enough people to prop up threads>>737718708Because battle mode is total trash, I love everything else about MKW but battle mode is a travesty
maybe dont price is fucking 70€? fucking jewish retards
I haven’t forgot about SuperTuxKart though. Zero sales ;)
>>737720376if it was 30-40€ form the start it could actually be a successful game everyone on my steam friend list didnt get it because of the price
>>737719998Let the slopnicfags cope it’s all they have
>>737718497>>737720205>They hate Spongebob!But why?
>>737720148Smash is doing okay.
>>737720650He’s Epstein funded Jewish propaganda and should be erased
>>737719516>retards do retarded thingsI fail to see the issue
>>737719516>retards that think every game that's below 100k is a dead gameGame has 500 players on Steam right now and it's on sale lol.Let it go.
Are there even enough people becoming new Sonic fans to sustain the franchise in the future as older fans age out/become disinterested?
>>737721291who fucking said it was specifically for this game; I'm talking about games like happy wars when it was only at 10k players and people were calling it dead despite being an overall fun ass game that got sabotaged by the end of life for xbox 360
>>737721576if we're really being technical it applies to this game and any game with crossplay, only thing steam charts are good for is shitposting 90% of the time
>>737721532youtubers like Lythero and snapcube are introducing it to gen z and alpha
>>737721651honestly sucks, games like prime unturned or old ass online games like Dorito crash course or that one battlefield x halo game that sony made once but killed it with all the exclusivity, are considered dead despite being actual fun while also having the biggest potential of becoming something perfect
>>737719657I know you're baiting, but it's genuinely worse with a game like Crossworlds because the game's loaded with FOMO event races to get you to turn it into a job. You MUST log in every week to do your races or else you might permanently miss out on something to customize your kart with.That's the kind of garbage that made me refuse to buy this and that CTR remake. As shallow as Mario Kart World is, at least they aren't pulling the mobile game treadmill bullshit.
>>737721678>and snapcubeThat's just going to kill Sonic even faster. Gen Z/Alpha are growing up ahead of the whole "anti-rainbow" pendulum swing and they are some of the most vicious shitposters when it comes to mocking troons. Once they realize that one of the biggest ambassadors for the Sonic fandom is an actual tranny, they're going to nope the fuck out. Snapcube is just Chris-chan but with slightly less autism.
>>737722042Can't you unlock everything in CTR with in-game currency tho?
>>737714609>a kids party racing game didnt make fortnite numbers many such cases. the sonic racing games are all very good, way better than mario kart in pretty much all aspects.
>>737720650For me its just really half baked when these days the licensing costs or issues means no voices.A mute Spongebob is not worth bothering for.
>>737722591Delusional fag
>>737720064didn't sega cheap out so much they didn't voice act most of their DLC characters? like sure that's an improvement over the obnoxious "YEAH, COOL, ALRIGHT" spam playing the game with regular characters gets you, but its still pretty damming.
>>737720692Ultimate was fantastic until that faggot joker arrived, then it started to go mostly downhill with minor bumps here and there.
>>737714609I dunno it's pretty fun. I don't really understand the /v/ obsession with needing perfectly fine games to be dead.
>>737718328Mods and jannies don't delete generals anymore unless it's a general that personally offends a mod, like the Umas.
>>737714609See y'all on May 12
>>737718761Genuinely, go touch some grass
>>737722416yeah the CTR Remake you can unlock everyone through the in game currencythe grand prix event stuff was permanently accessible after it was over, the customization that were added for that event would give you bonus in game currency per race if you used them
>>737724378>he sits around and waits for financial reports so he can talk about it for hours on /v/pathetic desu
I blame them adding Megaman and other literal who characters who didn't fit the game.
>>737718445Let's see MKW's steam stats.
Some tendies do really talk about their personal experiences/beliefs as the objective truth against something they don't like instead of informing themselves about why things have become this way just for an own>>737720376I'm stil mad they went for this price instead of $40-50, also the major reason as to why crossworlds "flopped", they had such a great opportunity to boost sales and wasted it
>>737720339>That has more to do with 4chan bleeding usersGee, I wonder why...>try to talk about ANYTHING>TRANNIESTRANNIESTRANNIESTRANNIESTRANNIESTRANNIESIt shouldn't come as a surprise. I don't give a fuck about trannies, but Anons won't stop talking about them.
>>737718892
>>737724845Mega Man fits fine. It's not even the first time Sonic and Mega Man have done a crossover. Same goes for Pac-Man.
Crossworlds still curb stomps world in terms of quality in gameplay and respecting the players time. Crossworlds lost its steam when they decided to focus most of the games life span on dogshit competitive seasons and some festivals being total nothingburgers. World since its launch last year has done nothing but fart out small patchs of things that shouldve been present since day 1.
>>737720167No, it was because this >>737720376
sonicfags need their own containment board
>>737724378I wonder if this will be another case like Sonic Superstars where higherups openly complained about disappointing sales around release, and then a few months later went "oh never mind, we actually found it sold pretty well", then later revealed the game sold around 2.5 million copies.Sega's management is a bizarre bunch.
>>737720376Unironically probably killed a lot of salesI played THE SHIT out of this game but I still hesitated to buy it at $70. I only got it because people were posted discounted keys.
>>737714609shouldve been $40 and shouldve had voice lines for crossover characters
>>737725215>respects your time>be sure to join in the festivals or you'll permanently miss out on characters and cosmetics!
>>737725279mariofags need to stop thinking and comparing everything about sonic 24/7
>people didn't buy the $70 base + $20 premium + micro transactions + tax + tariff + tip kart racerShocker
>>737714609Don't care, I'm still having fun
>>737725557blast?
Can we talk like pirates when his festival thread arrives?
>>737720376>$70 game>+$30 Season Pass for the rest of the characters and tracksThat pricing, coupled with the fact that they didn't even bother to give ANY DLC characters voices, convinced me to not bother with this game.(For the record, MKW is gay overpriced bullshit too, and I haven't bothered getting a SW2 yet)
>>737718761>god bless steam chart threadsActual cringe You obnoxious newfags legitimately trying to normalize the idea that the more popular a piece of media is with the masses the more valuable it is. I don't give a shit about your trash taste or the hordes of other retards playing the biggest slop out there if that's not what I'm interested in.The game has crossplay across 7 platforms with PC being the least popular destination by far for cart racers. There is no issue finding matches regardless where you play, beyond that there should be no fucking reason to give the slightest shit how mainstream a game you are interested in is, and if you think people are only making threads about games here to pretend that they are mainstream then you are likely projecting your own shitty behaviour on others
>>737719516>we should get rid of steam charts threads because retards like me post in themNah.
>>737727031NTA but I just like being able to tell when a publisher is lying about how popular or successful their game is. No reason to be against that, is there?
>>737714609>play MKW in a store demo kiosk right before i decide which switch 2 SKU to buy>seems alright but i'll wait for a sale in a couple years>get home, set up switch 2, download the sonic crossworlds demo>uninstall it within 2 minutes because the driving is dogshit and the course design is nonexistent
>>737714609Sonic fans ruined sonic. Sonic is cringe.
>>737727263It's a pretty shallow way to tell if they're lying unless you're only using it for pc-focused releases.The main playerbase for Sonic games isn't going to be found on pc/Steam, for example.
>>737727483It's still useful information. No reason to get rid of it unless you're a corporate cocksleeve.
>>737727483Well since PC is the only platform with free multiplayer I'd say it's actually more useful to me.
>>737727443How
>>737720692Smash is dead, the brown bricks man killed it
>>737727483>The main playerbase for Sonic games isn't going to be found on pc/Steam, for example.Do we have a source for this? Seems to me like the majority of the community is on PC, especially with all the mods and fangames. Plus, Sonic Kart is a multiplayer focused game, meaning there's going to be a payment barrier for any console player.
>>737727940>Sonic Kart is a multiplayer focused game, meaning there's going to be a payment barrier for any console player.MK8D on Switch 1 has 70 million copies sold
>>737727189>>737721128so what im getting from all of this issssss, you're braindead that won't ever try a game unless the game sits at 100k concurrent players constantly a year with constant updates which aren't needed and will only lead to bloat and high sales despite being low quality, did i get that right from the two of you anons? or is there more retardery you wanna add to that list.
>>737727689CrossWorlds is crossplay so that wouldn't matter in this particularly case, but I get what you're saying.
>>737727989MK8D isn't available on PC.
>>737727991Dunno what you're talking about, all I said was I don't think the existence of retards like yourself is a good reason to get rid of steam charts. I promise you I wasn't going to play Marathon regardless of how successful it was, get over it.
>>737728016What does crossplay have to do with a paywall?
>>737714609Both are overpriced Slop
>>737727581I'm not the anon spouting "cringe", and I'm not saying to get rid of it, just that relying on it for every single release is, again, a very shallow form of thinking.There's cases where it's a good sign of how successful something is (e.g., a pc port for a decade-old game or something specifically designed for the online pc market), and cases where it basically says nothing because most sales were spread across consoles.>>737727689That makes sense to me.>>737727940The main reasoning is that Sonic is a kids-oriented IP, and most kids play on consoles, not pc. Most of Sonic's older fanbase is probably on pc, but they live in the shadow of Sonic's younger audience, especially those brought to the series by the movies. Pretty sure Sega themselves had a financial slideshow that talked about this.
keep steamcharts because shills hate it
>>737728108>random projection to point he brings out a random who game outta nowhere seriously who are you boogeymanning here, i call steam charts retarded because every drooling idiot on here genuinely thinks any game below 100k is a huge failure, imagine if nintendo games had chart threads you wouldn't hear the end of it, about how etc is dead yada yada
>>737728218>relying on it for every single releaseI don't do that.
>>737728254>seriously who are you boogeymanning hereI'm just calling you retarded.
Crossworlds averages 30k festival participants reaching 1000 points, which of course doesn't include the people who don't reach 1k or ignore festivals entirely, so the game's okay. Festival numbers do fluctuate based on the IP though. For example, Megaman had more players than Angry Birds, of course.
>>737728352>UMMm achkually yoU're reTurded (despite expressing the most idiotic opinion ever)it takes one to know one bud
I don't care about the player count, I'm just not interested in playing a Sonic racing game where you drive a car instead of running regardless of whatever lame excuse you come up with.
>>737728451What is my opinion, retard?
>>737728287I've decided that you do, so I win.
>>737714609>crossover game has persona 5 crossover>fails/diesthe curse continues.
>>737728463It’s to make it fair. Sonic is competing for sport, if he ran instead of driving a car he would beat everyone easily.
>>737725454>characters No. Every single SEGA character is added completely fucking free and you don't even have to unlock them.>cosmeticsYes but they could always add them later and each festival grind has been decreasing, plus they've added each festival gadget so it stands to reason
>>737714609It's crazy how fast the Mario Kart was forgotten.
>>737725296Superstars only "sold pretty well" after they did a ton of massive sales right after saying it "didn't meet expectations."Them thinking that came would be worth $60 going up against Mario Wonder is baffling to me.
>>737728578That is the exact kind of lame-ass excuse I'm talking about and you people spout it like automatons.
>>737728509>i don't think "bias thought" is a good reason to get rid of steam chart threads, then some random game.seriously stop trying to save face you said what you said, you didn't refute anything cause you know steam charts do nothing but make it hard to even discuss a gamei even say the same thing for the sales for any game, even if it manages to sell a Mil it won't make a difference it was low quality or already done half to death but it's funny how you didn't even try to refute any of downsides.
I play Crossworlds more than Mario Kart World these days
>>737728807>stop trying to save face you said what you saidThere's no face to save, my stance is reasonable and correct and everyone in this thread knows it except for your favela monkey ass. The existence of retards - such as yourself - is not a good reason to get rid of valuable information.
>>737728913how?
>>737728961What do you mean
>>737728716Races rent free in your head apparently.
>>737714609I wonder if the random DLC characters and themes drove the traffic they were looking for.Was Miku really that big of deal?Was Spongebob?Steve?Ichiban?Was it worth all the royalties/ fees for those characters? Why do they do this with every racing game they put out there?
>>737728807Anon, YOU are the downside.
>>737728930>is not a good reason to get rid of valuable information>GAME NOT HIGH ENOUGH NUMBER, ME ANGRY AT GAME you sound more like an ape more caveman if anything, only caring about the number only playing it, i promise you wouldn't be caring about the chart if you were playing games like plants vs zombies or shit like bejeweled or tetris
>>737714609It's more fun than Mario Kart but it costs 60 bucks and I wasnt gonna to buy Mario Kart in the first place either
>>737729123>>GAME NOT HIGH ENOUGH NUMBER, ME ANGRY AT GAMEWho are you quoting?
How come the Yakuza series gets to have two playable characters but Joker is the only Atlus character?
>>737729208How come Yakuza only got popular after it stopped being good?
>>737728913Same, but I cycle between both. I just like the cosmetic aspect of the game
What the fuck was their projection? On what fucking planet do they think they could get anywhere MK8D's 70 million sales or even World's ~15? MK8 was a goddamn fluke. A million is pretty good for an admittedly past-its glory franchise kart racer.That said I didn't know CTR:NF made 10 million though, so yea I suppose they were at least hoping for a few million
>>737728773It's the official reason. Also Sonic canonically just likes cars.Same way Tails likes planes despite being able to fly. It's an interest that ties into their characters.
>>737729174you faggot, you only care for steam charts for the player activity unless the numbers are big, you're not going to give the game any light of day unless its 100k or above while spewing out the same shit every drooling retard says when they use steamcharts "GAME IS DECLINING IS IT DEAD!!!" "WHAT HAPPENED etc BRO'S"or the infamous "I Am forgotten"
having played both i sadly have to admit crossworlds is better than world simply because it plays more similar to mk8dif they reduced players, removed the track connecting bits and rebalanced wrapons/characters world would be really good
>>737720650redditbob poster humiliation ritual
>>737729301They don't understand context.The previous Sonic racing game which most people don't like and was DOA because it didn't have functional online sold 3.5 million. But it also reached that number because it had legs every time one of the movies released. So it stands to reason that the same will happen to CrossWorlds when Sonic 4 releases, plus people are likely waiting for a character they want to play as to be added.
>>737729347That's not my stance at all. This is why I keep calling you retarded.
>>737729097Megaman actually did allow it to chart again, so that was a decent boost in sales.
Are the free Steam trial and Majima festival gonna overlap?This game's servers are held together with ducttape at the best of times, if there's a bunch of guest players at that time it's not gonna hold!
>>737729414TSR was also bundled with Mania and wasn't $70
>>737729097Considering almost every festival has like 70k players yes
>>737719657That's why you need modded track support
>>737729475I believe so yes.>>737729476True but CrossWorlds goes on sale a ton and is on sale now, so anyone that paid 70 just wanted it at launch. SEGA likely just had expectations a bit too high when the sales probably matched TSR's initial run>>737729497Which this game has. The modding scene is insane.
>>737729326I do not care about canon in a series that isn't even consistent with itself.
>>737729414Worth remembering Sonic games go on deep price cuts and bundles thoughever. Counting by sales and not revenue is even worse compared to Mario.
>>737714609Why would I buy this for a hundred dollarydoos at launch when I already have Transformed to play???
>>737729434>UHHH i actually use the steam charts FORRR uuuuhhhhh UHHHH literally what else can you even use the steam charts for unless for player activity, the main reason it was made in the first place?how i would know this is the second you brought up some who game which i just did a quick dive to see wtf you are talking about just to find out you're mainly talking about its player activity dwindling, which told me you were an biased retard who only cares about the activity and number of players on a game.
>>737729097Miku was fine, but Spongebob, seriously? A cartoon character that has absolutely no ties to the Sonic franchise or video games in general. It just felt very forced.
>>737729692>literally what else can you even use the steam charts forI actually don't go to steam charts at all. I wait for someone to post them here.
the game sorely needs a netcode overhaul so everyone can at least share the same reality instead of dealing with up to 12 different versions of a single event
>>737729705All the Nick stuff is because Paramount makes the movies. I at least think TMNT has some throughline since it shared a channel with Sonic X but that was years ago
>>737729692>literally what else can you even use the steam charts forsee >>737727263
>>737720376They want the Mario kart world audience (no one)
>>737729362mk8dx feels so stiff after world
>>737714609All Stars Racing was fantastic. The fact they thought it was necessary to "re-boot" the series is baffling to me. Glad it flopped. It's trash compared to All Stars.
>>737729938This isn't even really a reboot. It's more like a spiritual successor. But I do think it isn't reaching its potential as such because it doesn't have but 1 SEGA themed track. It does have the jukebox with a ton of SEGA variety music they added from older racers but it needs more
>>737728717>Superstars only "sold pretty well" after they did a ton of massive sales right after saying it "didn't meet expectations."It was actually because of the holiday season boost that pretty much every Sonic game gets, hence why Sega tends to release Sonic shit during the late-year period.Which is why it was odd for Sega's management to come out and openly talk about how it didn't sell well so soon after release, as if said boost wasn't going to happen for whatever reason. Maybe they're just completely stupid and thought a 2D platformer was going to do Frontiers numbers.
>>737714609I'll admit I didn't buy the full game, but the demo was enough to pull me off.The game felt terrible to play compared to MK8, let alone MKW.Kirby was better than both of them
>>737729613>this is the answer>I don't care about the answer!okay
>>737727263>but I just like being able to tell when a publisher is lying about how popular or successful their game is. No reason to be against that, is thereso just because the game is losing its player base from time to time they're 'lying' that makes no sense WHATSOVER Since that happens with most games, that's just basic player traffic and game devs usually have to make adjustments to keep that playerbase happy which is usually a pain in the ass since you can't always make everyone happy.>>737729746i can tell since you're drooling rn about a game's player activity (which i don't give a fuck for but angrier that retards cherish chart threads as if that would actually make their opinion about a game true)
>>737718445It'd be nice if nintendo had charts for their online games, but MKW is pretty much dead as well. You have to wait until the weekend to get a somewhat full lobby/waiting room, otherwise you have to wander around the empty map for 10 minutes trying to find more players.It was never this bad with MK8D.
>>737714609Didn't play this but I played the older Sonic Racing and it was pretty fun. Plays differently from Mario Kart, the vehicles feel more realistic to control.
>>737730129>so just because the game is losing its player base from time to time they're 'lying'No?
>>737730227I still play MK8D and can find active games on it.
>>737720650>only in because Sega is butt buddies with Paramount thanks to the movies>no voice lines, not even recycled onesMostly just ok in my book, should have thrown in Sandy as well.
>>737730227I hope they add a way to just have custom lobby amounts so you can have a regular 8/12 person race for a full lobby
>>737730272Then word it right, since this was your first statement in this whole argument which only makes you sound more like a drooling retard who only cares about the relevancy of the game, also you can't just switch up about caring about the popularity while touting that you are worried about lying about their popularity, YOU literally mention right here >i almost pulled the trigger on buying this $60 sonic kart racing game until i looked up on steam charts when it released and saw only 10k players were playing the game. the general fags had you thinking it was WAY more and that this was a genuine mario kart competitor you only cared about it as a competitor and had 4channers dragging you by an opinion leash, yet you stated it was mainly the steamchart thread, and the fact it sat at 10k which tells me you didn't mean a lick of shit when you said this >>737727263 what's stopping you from saying this about every game that gets posted here?
>>737714609For one thing including guest characters including within Sega's catalog but NONE of them speak is just cheap lazy shit. They were better off not even trying especially since Non Sega guests not talking is such a turn off. And the game lacks much in the way of single player content. To this day Diddy Kong Racing is the best single player racing game.And finally lets admit it to ourselves, Sega's brand power is piss weak compared to other companies. The only franchise Sega is truly recognized for globally is Sonic. Their other games like Nights, Altered Beast, Billy Hatcher, Shinobi, Skies of Arcadia, etc. All of them are failures or were humiliated by their contemporaries.Now compare Sega's brand power with Capcom or Konami? If Capcom or Konami made a racing game about their gaming brands they would trump Sega's game by the popularity of their characters alone ESPECIALLY Capcom because they own popular characters like Leon, Monster Hunter, Ryu, Dante, Morrigan, etc. People would line up to buy a racing game starring those characters. And even Square Enix would succeed at a racing game using their characters if they weren't so fucking retarded about it (hey everyone new Chocobo racer but we will NOT include the FF7 characters besides Cloud alone how idiotic). Anyway Sega doesn't understand how grossly unpopular they are worldwide. They seriously aren't a big name in the gaming industry to sell a racing game showing off their brands.
too fucking expensive...
>>737730660oh shit i didn't realize it didn't highlight the id and i think i forgot to put the id near "first statement" >>737718761
>>737714609I like the game but it deserves to fail for being crossover slop instead of a love-letter to Sonic and Sega.
>>737714609Maybe if they didn't charge £65 for the basic version they might have gotten some fucking players.Also they're competing with all stars racing transformed for the fan favorite slot, which they keep pretending doesn't exist despite it being their most fun and well liked racing game ever.>"Deluxe" version is £80Genuine retard shit
>>737714609I find it funny how /v/ kept screaming how CrossWorlds is going to kill MK World, and how SEGA is less greedy than Nintendo because MK World was $80 and how Pokemon announced DLC before launch and SEGA would never(even when CrossWorlds did exactly that with its season pass)
>>737728021Exactly, nobody plays kart racers on PC.
>>737729613You need to be 18 or older to post here
>>737714609I can still get a full human lobby in 20 second on any week day though aside from festivals even?
>>737718328This but after deleting Famitsu/nintendo shareholder rp general first.
>>737718892My reaction when I didn’t buy either of those games.
>>737727031>no threads>no discussions>0 players on steamits joever my man this thread was the most attention your sonic hakuna miku kart racing shit has gotten in the past few months
>>737721291The game has crossplay.
>>737718892i bought expedition 33 instead
>>737722416>>737724678Yeah, you just need literally year and a half to do it after activision added post launch mtx and nerfed coin fain, LMAO!
>>737724223I need that TOR fix bro (never mind that game actually rebounded, has healthy playerbase and made billions of dollars so far.
>>737733148...not yet? Paramount doesn't own WB/DC yet, tho the shareholders DID vote in favor of it back on the 23rd. They also voted to NOT give David Zaslav a compensation packages, so ha ha fuck him.
>>737725454>tendie literally never played the game he's shit talkingNot surprised.
>>737732348>keep pretending doesn't existThere's tracks from it in the game>>737733437Not even true because even the Angry Birds fest got threads and Majima is releasing in 3 days. Every festival gets threads
i fucking hate tendies but mario kart won
>>737733425Me buying all 3 and playing them because I like all 3 franchisesPlaying Air Riders with the boys now in fact
>>737727263Previous festival had 70.000 unique players and that's with world races being available. You are simply mentally ill.
>>737730118Simply epic, isn't it?
>>737714609Kek
>>737714609What do sale numbers have to do with quality?
im sure its a fun game but im not paying $60 for a kart racing game that has less than 500 people playing it
>>737733982The game isn't Steam exclusive, but you already knew that.
>>737714609I tried playing earlier and I got almost the same people back to back. I said the game underperformed yet some of you fags kept claiming it was a "hit".
>>737734041It's not a top seller or even that popular on the important systems either
>>737718625Anon it took like 4 years for MK8 to get some DLC, I don't expect MKW DLC until at least halfway Switch 2's lifecycle.
>>737734101The game came out 8 months ago, but you already knew that.
>>737734221I bought it day 1 and said the same thing. You hug box fags are why these things are getting worse and worse.
shills in full damage control kek
>>737734257Every festival has over 50.000 unique players, but you already knew that.
>>737734221Hey poomar as someone who bought the game I get to call it shit. I'm glad it failed. They focused on all the wrong aspects. The "crossworld" and idw shit clearly didn't land and they bet the whole game on that
>>737734334sure thing, post playtime.
>>737714609>Sonic Frontiers is the best selling 3D sonic ever>Sega says it didn't meet sale expectations (and the director even publicly bitched about it not selling BOTW/Elden Ring numbers)>Sonic Crosswords goes far and beyond everyone's expectations >Sega says it didn't meet sale expectations How about expecting less? For a public traded company deep in debt Sega sure loves shitting on themselves publicly in interviews, this must do wonders for their stocksIt must really fucking suck support a retarded company that fucked up your favorite franchise for 20 years just so when they release something half decent they will still beg for more money
>>737734315Anon that's nothing. Worse so since it's on every platform. Even transformed had a far larger playerbase and sales
>>737734283Yeah, MKW bombed really fuckingnhard and all the fans hate it.
>>737733924Player retention sure as shit does reflect quality.
>>737714609The same could be said for Mario kart
>>737734384Transformed sold 1.5 million lifetime sales, but you already knew that.
>>737734404How many people are playing Scarlet and Violet now? It sold 30 million units so it's player count must be in the millions right now?
>>737734431I thought it had like 5 million. Is that because of the mobile port?
>>737734364Can't find my original switch 1 hours but here are the combined ones. I played on an off until the minecraft shit before I was done. I tried playing today and it was all the same people back to back
>>737734803Yes.TSR mobile game is still going strong today and getting regular updates.
>if the game doesn't sell 100000000 units it's shit and garbageDang, i guess i just imagined having fun playing this indie horror game over the weekend? I'm so glad terminally online zoomies are here to open my eyes.
>>737734381Frontiers did sale well for Sega's eyes tho, thats the reason why they been pricing the Sonic games higher, they feel confident it will sell the same if not more than Frontiers but they need to learn not every Sonic games has to be prices that high cause of the content or presentation not meeting those standards, that's why Shadow gens managed to sell 1 million before it even released, it just had a reasonable price and 2 games in one.These guys need new fresh managment that arent retarded
The true Mario Kart World was the friends we made along the way.
>>737729705Honestly Sega should have chosen Mickey Mouse at least Sega made Mickey Mouse Castle of illusion before making Sonic's first game ever. And if they needed an animation character that's iconic while having ties to Sega you're not getting any bigger than Mickey Mouse.
>>737734431No. That's the number of console sales. On Steam it's estimated around 3 million. CrossWorlds did terribly by comparison.
>>737720205Cherries on top of Crossworlds would be Goku and Shrek unironically speaking.
>>737735082If you thought the games price was bad now just imagine it woth an obligatory Disney tax.
>thread discussing crossworlds>no thread discussing mkwhmm...
>>737714609>that'll be $70 to start>and $30 DLC to get the complete roster>did i say complete roster? you also had to pre-order the game or an entire character is gone forever>you also have to play all the splatfests to unlock everything because we know online would die otherwise>look we brought back extreme gear! it just handles likes a car and nothing at all like in sonic riders but you just liked how it looks right?>we know how much you liked collab characters in the previous games so we brought em back! which 20 year old nickelodeon cartoon is your favorite?>huh? none of them? you wanted video game characters? but we don't get paid as much for those...is it alright if we make half the DLC characters ones you want and the other half literal garbage no one has or will ever ask for? that satisfies everyone right? great!>so that's $100 for a part-time job, here's your work schedule and- hey where are you going?
>>737735161Shouldn't Mickey be cheaper nowadays since some of him is public domain? You can't charge too much for what's worth less.
>>737718445>losing to Mario Kart Wii (2008 game)grim.
>>737735405People are too busy playing it, probably.
>>737735632like you rn? oh wait...
>>737735667It's my birthday, and I just got home from a big dinner. The fuck you want from me, to not post on /v/ ever because I'm too busy playing a game late into the night? I own both as well. Transformed and MK 8DX were both better.
>>737730227>You have to wait until the weekend to get a somewhat full lobby/waiting room, otherwise you have to wander around the empty map for 10 minutes trying to find more players.meanwhile a full crossworlds lobby is 40 seconds
>>737735559That isn't a higher number than what was in the post you replied to
>>737714609>>737735667I just came from an hour long gaming sesh though.Had full human lobbies, unless someone DC'd in like 20~ seconds. What exactly is this thread about?
I wish Sega weren't full of retarded people
>new sonic racing revealed, looks fun>try the demo, can't rebind kbnm controls>lose all interest >wtf the game didn't sell??
>>737714609The only person I know personally was trying to hype up CrossWorlds also hyped up Marathon.
>>737735923But you can remap the keyboard controls?
Yup, still the kart racing king.
>Mario Kart>dead and forgotten>Sanic Kart>dead and forgottenWho really win here
>>737736508Are you talking about that biddybud that won the race
>>737736512Mario won like always.
>>737736573Won and still ended up being forgotten
Crossworlds wins by virtue of not having to buy a shitch 2 to play it.
>>737736573At least post some good gameplay, wtf is this shit
>>737736757>Sonic sissies thought they could go against this
>>737736929>has to 4x speed the gameplayoh no no no
>>737715803>Sonic needs retention gimmicks to keep people playingI dont even own a Switch 2, but kwab.
>>737737076It literally takes 10 minutes to get a race going in mkw and even then half of the lobby is bots.
>messy, loose gameplay>rubber-banding>VFX-gasm>shitty roster>love it or hate it Sonic I. P.>DRMTOA (Trash on Arrival)
>posting AI shitJust nuke the thread already
>>737737321>DRMAs opposed to a 500 DRM + tip for online play?
>>737714609FUCKING 70$ FOR PARTY RACING WITHOUT GETTING ON A REAL SALE OF COURSE IT WILL BOT MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS SONY I DON'T CARE ABOUT STEVE FROM MINECRAFT, I WILL NOT SPEND 70$ ON PARTY RACING I HAVE A GAMES TO PLAY
>>737738110I will not spend 40$ either. Maybe 15$. It's a damn party racing game for a few evenings
Kart racing is made for splitscreens, guys. Not competiting online.
>>737714609The fact that they even had Nintendo's incompetence giving them a boost and the game still failed that hard. Holy fuck. It probably wouldn't have even sold half as well if the retarded executives at Nintendo weren't trying to force their idea of fun on everyone playing MK World.
>>737738283>>737738110It was on multiple sales already for like 50 dollars.
lol people genuinely think MKW selling14 million copies is the same as Crossworlds barely scrapping a million
>>737738493>it sold more so it's gooderOkay.
>>737714609I am convinced anyone calling anything X killer is actually a fanatic of X.
>>737714609>awful voice acting>awful visuals still using 20+ year old models>obscene amounts of bloom>dubstep music>lack of art direction>Americanization thanks to Ian Flynn>Amy being lobotimized while Rouge is being censoredGee, I wonder why?
>>737714609Bought it when it was deep discounted on stolen keys site and the game is fucking boring.. literally every single track is the exact same curves and bends
Sega does what Nintendon't
>>737739142But enough about Mario kart world
>>737739269i dont have switch
>>737714609Biggest problem is definitely the price but the game also has a big flaw with how they force everyone to be clustered together.You could just wait for 30 seconds doing nothing in the beginning and the game will give you items that send you back to the others in a flash. This is the main reason why I stopped playing, it's just not fun that way.Also no one cares about Sonic sloppers. I only got the game for the non-Sonic cast
Sonic fags still haven't recovered from this I see.
>>737739634Because it was a bribe for MKW to win that award.
>>737739634Mario fags still haven't recovered from this i see.
>>737736929yknow it's a waste there's no 120fps racing games on switch 2 yet.
>>737714609>persistent threads of Crossworlds on /v/>absolute silence on the MKW frontwhere are the mario threads, autismfags?
>>737733680nigga spent like $700 to drive around in circles repeatedly in kart racershave you considered playing an actual game on an actual platform?
>>737714609it was obvious from the betas the game had no legsthey wasted the idas team talent on a game more about slot machine than on racing
Megaman should be in Mario Kart goddamnit
>>737741861Mario kart world won.You're shit eos game will be cancelled at the end of this month.
>>737743562...in my HRT induced delusions.
Famitsufags are here, abandon ship. Expect every opinion under the sun to get called snoy.
Crossworlds won in the end
>>737714609>release dogshit game with zero innovation>the game bombsno shit.
>>737714609Joker is a poisoned asset. No one will buy a game if he's in it.
>>737720064They gave it a premium $90 price tag despite everyone, even younger zoomies, knowing that Sega games are mid at best.
>>737748296But enough about MKW.
>Adding Miku thinking it'll sell your game to zoomers>Majority of the zoomers that like Miku are either larpers and/or subhumans that only play gacha games or F2P gamesYou didn't really think that through SEGA
>>737718497
>>737737321i don't like the implications of this image
Now imagine if it had launched at $40 instead.
>>737751198>only Mario is allowed to charge premium for it's inferior kart racing gameGo on, tell us why.
>>737751289Who the fuck said anything about Mario? If I wanted to play a Kart racer I'd just load up CTR:NF at this point which cost less than either. Still a shame it never had a PC port.
>>737724721the first mistake was thinking /v/ actually plays games instead of just making bait threads about them.
>>737714609Except Crossworld threads still get a lot of replies where Mario Kart /v/eekend are legit ghostowns. You can't even really talk about Mario Kart World without trying to shit on Sonic
>>737724721It's how literally half (at least) of the posters are like now.Not banning steam chart, famitsu and tortanic threads the second they reared their head doomed this board.
I would have gotten it but I'm not paying $50. Should have made it like $20
>>737751198
>>737751851>You can't even really talk about Mario Kart World without trying to shit on SonicIs it opposite day today?
>>737718761>I rather push narratives than actual facts
>/v/ Sanic threads during events always active with multiple lobbies while MK /v/eekend is on life supportYeah, I doubt it.I agree that on release the game was way too expensive, but right now it can be bought for far cheaper. On key sites, it goes for as low as $40. $50 if you care about the DLC (not sure if you can cream.API it or not). Widespread mod support, too.>>737751528>not on PCWhatever.
>>737714609they sold an incomplete game. being jews was the problem here. get fucked
>>737714674>Mario>soul
>>737752040This! It should have been free to play actually. Only Mario kart is allowed to charge money.
>>737735491This, not to mention it's built like an e-sport game for autists so there's no reason for normal human beings to buy it
>>737751289World is overpriced as well you retard, there's a reason most people got it with the Switch 2 bundle where it was effectively $50, no one is willingly paying $80 for a kart racer. Doesn't mean Crossworlds wasn't overpriced either, they both charge way too fucking much for what they are.
n e v e r f o r g e t
>>737737180just outright lying
>>737718761I think the idea of "permanent games" that have to become a constant fixture of a player's life, lest they're a failure, is ridiculous.Streamers or e-celebs who literally makes a career of playing 1 thing are the exception, most people get into a phase to play a genre of multiplayer game for a week or two before uninstalling until the mood hits them again.I do it for Mario Kart, TF2, Terraria, whatever and I imagine that's how most people interact with these games.It's an evolution of Tortanic retardation, where, instead of waiting for a big, extravagant ship to collapse under it's own hubris, you're watching a random average iceberg melting at an expected rate and feeling triumph over something you obviously know was going to happen.
>>737739840I still can't believe crossworld lost the kids choice award though. You'd think they'd rig it
>>737755029i dont believe this happened you'll have to post proof of the mod
slopnictroons have a humiliation fetish
>>737756234Where
>>737756435look in the mirror
>>737714609>paying full price for a game where more than half the cast isn't even voicedFreaking Nick Kart Racers 3 has more voiced characters than this $60 trash.
>>737756058anon theres like a ton of nsfw porn mods Sonic Crossworlds. Amy,Rouge and Cream have been heavily modded.
>>737756586sorry i still don't see it
>>737757381>p-plz humiliate me more mariobvllseek help
>>737756058The lie in the greentext is blaming cloud saves for the issue, when the mods wouldn't be part of that.
>Worldfaggots still trying to punch at other games to stay relevantLol, stay in your lane. The straight-line highway lane.
>>737755935That category literally only exists so Nintendo doesn't leave empty handed if they don't win anything else
>>737757663Anon... at least people play mario kart. Sonic tried adding nick and idw shit for attention and nobody cared.
>>737757663Holy fuck i miss the days the days of the booster course pass, even if they we're shitty tour ports, they we're getting better at it and the announcement of more characters was a very cool surprise
slopnic flopworlds in the straight down the drain lane like the massive turd it is lmao
>>737757508>Putting words in my mouth to make me look badAnd you should seek therapy Mariosissie
>>737758502>*mariomaster
>>737714609>Sega says [insert Sega game] failed to meet sales expectationseverytime
>>737759648They keep changing these games and seriers for "broad appeal" and it's the same people as usual buying. Look at how hard they raped yakuza just because zero became a meme to zoomers for a short while.
>>737751851>Game is so dead you need to find people on /v/ to play withNot the flex you think it is
Why have we not been granted a Sonic board? JUST FUCKING MAKE ONE.>good, then you can never post Sonic anywhere but there againNot so fast.
>737719657Retard.
I hope sega calms down with the idw garbage. I just want sonic and friends. Not sonic in steven universe shit.
Mario Kart World sold more non bundled copies in Japan alone than Sonic Crossworlds sold across all platforms worldwide.Crossworlds might not even be past 1 million still
>>737764810Nah it did at least 1-1.5 million tops. Problem is they paid quite a bit in advertisment and were hoping to ride the online mario kart hate. Problem is their online first/practically only game sucked and feels cheap. They really thought they had a popular online racer here.
>>737762072It's right here >>>/trash/
>>737727415I think there is a flaw in your reasoning
>>737755793if 13,0000 players stop playing a $60 online multiplayer game in less than 6 months, thats enough evidence for me to not buy.you are overthinking this unc
>>737765350I hope you're not talking about Crossworlds because i can easily get a full human lobby at any time of the week in less than 30 seconds.
>>737765219kek
>>737765219How come pokemon is allowed to have two boards?
>>737765438Liar, I played yesterday and it took close to minute for each match. Worse yet was the repeat players.
>>7377187612% player retention btwi dont even think mario kart did this bad
>>737765665I'm not gonna buy Switch 2 and mkw, bro.
>>737765716No one said you had to. I don't get why some of you think this is a nintendo vs sega thing. I've been a sonic fan since the 2000s and love both. I wonder if this mentallity comes from the newer idw fags.
I always loved mario kart starting with the n64 one, double dash was my favorite and the Nintendo ds 2nd favoriteThis sonic game just looked like mario kart with a pretty good soundtrack overall, and my choices were buy a switch 2 to play bloodborn 2 and mario kart or buy sonic kart on steam Sonic kart has some flaws though, first the price point being high, 2nd is who is seeing the real live race? On my screen im tapping someone's rear bumper at the finish line then somehow I placed above him, this is frequent. Who gets to actually see the real live race? It sure ain't me. Oh and this happens with items too, you hit a dude on your screen but he doesn't slow down because on his screen he wasn't hit. For me I just wanted a casual mario kart racer on pc and that's exactly what I got, except its sonic and I like far more Mario games than sonic games overall.Tl;dr dont get this game, its not for everyone, if you had a mario kart itch for awhile, but didnt want to buy some piece of shit handheld tablet thing, here you go.I do see a lot of console players, mostly switch and Playstation of all things
More people bough MKW in Japan alone than Crossworlds had players WW last week lol.>[SW2] Mario Kart World (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 5,130 (2,900,842)
Famitsu and steam chart generals have been a plague upon this board.
>>737766147>Japan >where they don't give a shit about Sonic>still using only Steam numbers for a game that has crossplayNot to mention like the anon above said, lot of people play this on console and especially Switch. I got the Switch 2 version myself.
>>737766271>statistics are bad
>>737714609No lol
>>737766308It doesn't matter.The game has 1000~ daily players on steam so that means it's dead.
>>737714609ANYTHING SONIC POST LIKE SONIC HEROES IS CRINGE LOLTHE OG SONIC KART RACER IS OK I PLAYED IT ON PS PLUS ONCE LOL
>>737766308I hate when you fags say this despite the fact he's had fans there for years. They haven't liked the direction sonic has taken since the colors days. They don't really like the idw shit either. They think it's too "western" and that's saying something when the sonic market is primarily "westaboos"T. Have lived there on and off for years
>>737766340>i literally don't even play or like games i just watch numbers go up and down and jerk myself off with other people like me because i have nothing going in my lifeOkay, bro. Don't you have a Marathon thread to post in? The number went down again so you and your pals can your daily cortisol rush.
>>737766604I'm sure he does, there's obviously proof and I've seen some CrossWorlds players who are Japanese. But I'm not gonna act like "Sonic sold badly in Japan" is a talking point when we all know it's more popular elsewhere vs Mario who's popular worldwide
>>737765350I think it's delusional that you think people are going to play a single multiplayer game for 6 months straight, let alone a game in a genre as content-dry as kart racers usually are.Multiplayer games cycle.Most of that player count are probably people who already put down the game some months ago and then picked up again because the kart racer bug hit them again, and then they'll put down the game again when they get their fill and simultaneously someone somewhere else gets the urge to play it for a week in their place.That's how the playerbase cycle of these games works.
>>737767237Shut the fuck up. the game is dead.
>>737714674The last Mario Kart with soul was Double Dash so I don't know what kind of crack you're smoking.
>>737767237>using logic>on /v/ of all places>in a thread trying to drag sales of a game where they felt the playerbase was healthy enough to justify having WM open during festivals last patchNot worth the trouble anon>>737767361What about DS?
>>737767591Anon... if the festivals were splatoon tier then I would agree. It's the laziest shit I've seen yet. The fact there are enough people defending them is depresing
>>737736993Were you under the impression the webm is intended to make the game look good?
Are there people still online in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe? I’m thinking of redownloading it because it’s so much better than World.
>>737767724I wasn't arguing their quality (it really just depends on the objectives), my point is that people asked for regular racing to be open during festivals for the first 6 months of the game's life so they had more incentive to play during those weekends after getting the minimum points, they finally did it because enough people are still playing
>>737739634>quality judgement from the people who hyped up highguard
>>737727031It's SEAmonkey behaviour
>>737739903Cool breaking bad references. They even remember the cow house.
>>737718761If you had bought it you would've played it, had your fun, and probably wouldn't even give a shit it's dead now. I don't get how people obsess so hard. I'm not saying>consoom consoom consoombecause the same goes for free experiences. If you have interest in something just try it, life is too short to give a shit about inconsequential shit like this
>>737755029>have no idea if she's a kid or not because she's fucking chinese
>>737768515The game didn't break 100.000 players on steam on day one.DOA trash.
>>737714609The moment they dropped the SEGA All Stars and decided to go all in on SANIC is when my interest went to zero. SEGA is supposed to be more than just the pure undiluted autism production that is Sonic garbage.
>>737768515>he has to defend his purchaseits joever
>>737768515Good thing the game isn't very fun then
>>737767964It's kind of an obligation until all the characters are in. We'll see what they do after all the announced stuff is in
>>737724845Megaman boosted sales in the US and UKNot to mention the slop OP posted is just clickbait title for how they wanted more sales at launch even after it passed 1 million sales
We can laugh at marathon playercounts, but not at sonic racing crossworlds playercounts? why the double standard all of a sudden?
>>737768982Lol no it didn't. I bought the game day 1 and you fags are pathetic. The free trial did have new players, but they quickly left once they played against the meta troon brigade
I wish they tried sonething different like Riders.I'm not interested in a wattered down version of MK.
>>737766604>They don't really like the idw shit either. They think it's too "western" and that's saying somethingMakes me wonder how they are treating the Sonic manga there. Imaging if Sega, desperate to make Sonic big in Japan again, starting bring in some of the manga characters in the games, imagine the western outrage that would get...
>>737768687This game literally has SEGA characters being added to it in addition to music from those franchises you can play during races
>>737769776No it doesn't.
Are the movies unironically the only thing keeping Sonic relevant? Seems like the games range from doing just okay to outright underperforming
>>737769598There was a bit of anger there when they told the manga artist his work isn't canon, yet all the idw stuff is. They want that market yet they don't allow it to grow
>>737714609sega are being dumb. it sold insanely well
>>737739084FOLLOW ME INSIDE, OUTSIDE... THROUGH THE STRATOSPHERE!
>>737768687Sega is the only company where it's fans of their other series hate the main mascot and fans of the main mascot don't really care about their other games, how the fuck did we come to this.Also this game has Sega characters
I'm actually looking forward to Majima's Festival now that they banned both ring engines for it
>>737714609the problem with the game is its shitty music, and the fact that spongebob doesn't talkthey should have paid attention to what happened to nickelodeon all stars brawl when they didn't put the voices in for the charactersfucking retarded publishers as usual
>>737765853>I've been a sonic fan since the 2000sholy mother of zoom zoom
>>737751528
>>737774913>mention idw shit>middle aged tranny/fag gets upsetI'm not surprised
>>737767361Mario Kart DS and Wii had souls too.
>>737775780I don't even know what """""idw""""" is you dumb zoomer the point is that I've been playing sonic since before you were born go back
>>737775964Read the post as well then retard. It's all old trannies and fags who are pushing this crap into sonic. 2000s are some of the most loyal and respect the games and writtingT. Have been to sonic fests in japan. Met some good friends there who also liked digimon.
MKW sale wheni aint paying full price for this shit unless they add a battle royale mode that you play in the open world
>crossworlds is banning ring enginekek
>>737776374Based
>>737737180LMAO, it takes 10 sec and there are no bots if it's not knockout tour, lying retard.
>>737776374Probably because of the free weekend.Nerf soon?
>>737766271>FamitsuJust a reminder for everyone OTHER than the retard I'm replying to that those sales threads were started by Snoys during the PS4/WiiU era and the only reason they became a "general" is that those same Snoys spam the threads in an effort to get them banned as Nintendo is curb-stomping Sony in Japan thanks to the Switch and now Switch 2. Even going so far as to spam CSEM getting it into the archive in an attempt to get the archive deleted so Anons can't use it against them.Don't let those retards control the narrative, you know if the shoe was on the other foot we'd still be suffering from fugly, wojak gay porn spam.
>>737771183>unironically doing the exposure is the real payment/ advantage in trying to help us grow the brand in Niponland........Ya something tells me they ain't growing shit in Japan if they treat the manga as culture gajin bait. Though in return the manga artist might make the manga more risque to spite Sega and bring in readers considering the loose rule for manga...heh who knows, maybe he can draw Rouge with tits again as opposed to the nerfed shit they did to her in the west/IDW.
>>737774078>doing this instead of even attempting to buff other gadgetsget those ACK builds ready
>>737714609>>737730689>And finally lets admit it to ourselves, Sega's brand power is piss weak compared to other companies. The only franchise Sega is truly recognized for globally is Sonic. Their other games like Nights, Altered Beast, Billy Hatcher, Shinobi, Skies of Arcadia, etc. All of them are failures or were humiliated by their contemporaries.The only correct post in this thread. No one is going to spend money on a bunch of characters no one gives a fuck about. That's the crux of why Sonic Racing Cross World failed.The only main brand Sega owns that's popular is Sonic itself which attracts Sonic Fans but those same fans don't give a damn about Yakuza, Bayonetta, Skies of Arcadia, Streets of Rage, etc. So there is no draw for Sonic Racing Cross World it's literally...Hey everyone look its characters you don't care about and some Sonic characters!Enough said. Speaks volumes that the most well received Non Sonic characters are Mega Man and Pac Man who are not owned by Sega. Sonic Racing Cross World was a game mostly for no one besides the usual Sonic Fans and that's why its sales are pretty weak overall in the long term. Never make a game that sells itself on a roster and use characters who aren't popular.
>>737777386>maybe he can draw Rouge with tits againThis man is an unstoppable force when it comes to drawing women
>>737777656Let Imada Yuuki do character designs for any human NPCs
>>737768596How does that matter to anyone? I'm not saying this game is good but I've played games with 5k player steam peaks I'd consider the top 10 I've ever played
>>737714609The overblown price is the only reason I never got it. Even on sale, I'm never dropping $40 on a karting game. Let alone $70.
>>737777610Hell at this point even Sega is admitting Sonic's global appeal is still weak considering they added Nickelodeon characters as the main appeal. Even if it's part of some deal with Paramount because of the movies, the fact is they made a big deal that SpongeBob was the first reveal character and not any of Sonic's extended cast shows that second Sega thought Sonic and his friends were not enough to draw a continuous crowd for a live service game. Which should say something about how the series is being seen and handled by Sega.>>737777656Unironically this is how to gain more positive interest in Sonic because if they are going to continue with anime inspired/flavor/rip off for Sonic future game stories, they should make it more look more like in anime design to get the point across for the Normie crowd.
>>737779157That'd be for the best, but I fear they're going all in on the idw nonsense.
>>737774078Huh. They might be nerfing them down the line then.I don't hate DRE like I did Ult.Charge, but they are overcentralizing, which is bad when gadget variety is supposed to be a big selling point.+12 speed just for having a ring with both equipped is insane, so if it were me, maybe I'd make Hyper Ring Engine's boost only be +5 or +6 but make it so that it's active even without regular Ring Engine also being equipped. (both together would be +8/+9) Makes it a bit less broken while also giving more reason to run Hyper Ring Engine on it's own?And just delete any time trial records using DRE from before the update. Dunno if that's enough to balance without ruining so obviously don't take the exact number adjustments as gospel.
I'm not good at the game so I lost interest over time, make a *single* mistake and you aren't winning
>>737779317idwfaggots are a cancer to the franchise
>400 postsHoly kek this place stays seething over this fucking blue rat, almost more autisitc than actual SonicFags
>>737779317>>737779497And despite adding the two most marketable shill pair they have, the user base is still going down. The IDW fanbase can not support the series at all and the sad self pity yuri pair proved it. What the fuck will happen when they try and make them a selling point inclusion for a mainline Sonic game?
>>737734121MK8 had DLC the same year it launched. MK8 Deluxe launched with that DLC plus Battle mode, so Deluxe was basically DLC wave 2. Years later it got another round of DLC with the Tour stage ports plus the other stages, and that was broken up into six smaller waves. While I do expect MKW DLC eventually, it is odd we didn't get anything upfront. Even something small like an island with one course on it and a new vehicle and racer around Christmas last year would have made sense. Nintendo really needs to do a Direct and announce what's happening later this year.
>>737780085>the user base is still going downThe game is still way overpriced for what it is, if people aren't passionate fans of Sonic as a franchise they'll never get this game, not at $70. It would benefit heavily from a massive permanent discount, get new people interested in it. Even now it's 40% off and it's still way to expensive for normies to even consider. It's just a karting game. Sega made a mistake thinking this was AAA price worthy.
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>>737774078>>737776374Kek. Not affected by this since I'm not a metafaggot. Can't care less if this extends to WM in the future, since I don't play that shit anymore.This way we don't have to waste a festival race trying to catch up to topfaggots instead of doing the objectives and having fun with the /v/ros. Good riddance.
>>737776858free weekend?
>>737781821Steam version will be free to play for a bit this weekend
>mofos wheeling up like "please buy our game, that will be 70 dol + 30 dol DLCWhy didn't it sell, bros?
Unironically, finding out that no post-launch character would have VO was the killer for me.But MK was also shit, so there’s a hole for a fun mascot racer right now.
>>737782174i hear air ride is good
>hey guys how about we take our character that can run at the speed of sound and make him drive a carSonic R is vindicated. SEGA Saturn shiro!
>>737782925based>Everybody's Super Sonic Racing!
try to keep your feet right on the ground
>>737782925i wish there was another sonic R. seems like a fun game even though the responsiveness could better.
>>737782174>>737782328Air Riders is good but finding full games aside from City Trial is hard. Last night I tried doing each mode online for a checklist box and literally no one is playing Air Ride or Top Ride
>>737728021nta but i just played a couple games an hour ago
[Happening]Legend Competition 5 has been announced
>>737784885>tails decalThese are the kind of shit that would be cool to get from a fucking tickets shop along with different skins for characters or machine parts.Where's the tickets shop update Sega?
>>737784885Fuck I love Tails guess I gotta play it once
>>737785245They're brothers/best friends you sick queermo
>>737730227>but MKW is pretty much dead as well. You have to wait until the weekend to get a somewhat full lobby/waiting room, otherwise you have to wander around the empty map for 10 minutes trying to find more players.I always see people say this and yet I constantly get full matches in a couple of seconds.
>>737785340THAT'S THE BEST PART!!
Same that happens to all imitators that challenge Nintendo, rest in piss nothing will be missed.
>>737784885I guess I'll play it to get the Tails sticker. I've yet to even try one of these because all you get are titles and tickets and because I heard horror stories
>>737785692It's so funny all the shit that gets talked in these threads, but people will literally make threads for the game all weekend when Majima fest is running
It was pretty funny to see MKW get rightfully called out for being overpriced, but when Crossworlds released at $70 plus an extra $30 for the rest of the game, a lot of Sonicfags suddenly decided that $100 was more than fair for a game like this.
>>737784885Noo, my Collision Boost!Well, it's another event where DRE won't be around, and no 2-slots is easy to build around.
>>737784885Couldnt have just gotten the Puyo Puyo Festival out of the way first before having us suffer though a LC huh? I swear all this blue balling before getting us to the good shit.
>>737785779They're both bad
>>737785810Good things come to those who wait.GIVE ME MY LOVE ARLE NOW SEGA!
>>737751851Crossworlds threads are more common here because the game still does events and has fomo stuff in it. Mario Kart has nothing in that regard so you really don't get a lot of people discussing anything. The Crossworlds threads are usually just the same handful of people anyways, like a little saloon.
>>737786097>"i-is just fomo">mkw doesn't have and people don't play it anywayThere ARE MKW threads. They only last like 30 posts tho. Explain that.
>>737729362The intermission tracks are fun
>>737786283>>mkw doesn't have and people don't play it anywayAnon, my point is that MKW doesn't have events or timed things like Crossworlds, which is why it has way less discussion compared to Crossworlds here.
>>737786487Ergo, no one really cares about the game.Our threads die because people don't even play the fucking game. I'm one of the few anons who play there. MK8DX was the better game and Sonic Racing CrossWorlds is a lot closer to that than MKW, there's no denying that even for a fan of Mario Kart and Nintendo.
>>737786871>Ergo, no one really cares about the game.On /v/. The game is still populated but there's nothing to talk about. It's just Mario Kart.
>>737787068>The game is still populatedI wish this was true, but it takes the game minutes to find me a match and most of the time it fills half the lobby with bots.At least in SRC I only wait a minute at most for a regular race, and on festivals I don't even have to wait since it finds a match as soon as I go back to lobby.I do wish MKW was better than it is right now since I've been playing Mario Kart since the beginning. But unless their devs get their heads out of their asses and admit people don't want to play intermissions that much and gives us the means to play however we want, SRC will continue to be the better racing game to me, at least.I guess that's the best part of not being a fanboy of any brand. I can play everything and judge a game's flaws without any kind of bias.
>>737788184Are you not in the us or something? Crossworld takes about 1 minute to 1:30 for a match whereas in mario kart world it's about instant
>>737788184Fix your NAT
>>737714609mario kart world was forgotten pretty quickly too. i think people are just over dumb kiddie 80 dollar racing games
>>737786871I wish Air Riders got more threads. I would join sometimes and my friends finally started playing so I'm not worried about finding people to play with, but with how hyped up it was I figured people would play it more here
>>737736573I understand they probably did it to accommodate the increased player count, but they really needed to shrink the maps by like 1/3rd or so. They're so wide and long, makes it seem anemic
>mario /v/eekend threads get 30 posts max>multiple, back to back 500+ crossworlds threads during weekend festivalsFreaking, huh?
>>737730660>YOU literally mention right here >i almost pulled the trigger on buying this $60 sonic kart racing gameWasn't me, I was never planning on buying this game.
>>737793129As someone who used to go to the crossworld threads it was nothing more than image spam and idw tranny spam. Nobody cares anymore
>>737730118>>this is the answerNobody asked the question.
>>737730689>>737777610The reason properties like Nights, Altered Beast, Billy Hatcher, Shinobi, Skies of Arcadia are "failures" is because SEGA doesn't make game for them anymore. When was the last time they made a Billy Hatcher or an Alter Beast? I'll tell you, the last Altered Beast (out of THREE) was 21 years ago, and Billy's ONE GAME was 23 years ago.
>>737793478Shinobi just had a new game, and DLC for it, one I might actually check out at some point this year
>>737793478Since they're doing all these revivals I hope they revive Altered Beast and turn it into a good 3D beat-em-up since Yakuza sucks now.
>>737793317It's still that but also people talking about the game and shit. If people didn't care the threads wouldn't happen period
>>737718892i almost bought it because of Miku, but the gameplay looked too cheap, light, floaty, and bare-bonesI yearn for a new F-Zero GX (I lost my disc and it stutters on Dolphin)
>>737793775I almost bought it for egg pawn, it's just more than I'm willing to pay for something in such a dime-a-dozen genre.
>>737793478Some games can become one hit wonders like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy Tactics and that kind of success is enough to keep them in the minds of gamers. Sega never managed to make such games. Sega's games always felt half assed. It's like why bother with House of the Dead when Resident Evil is better. Why bother with Shinobi when Ninja Gaiden is better. And so on.
>>737714609Heh mario bros we sonic fans have a movie where we have sonic played by a jew helping a Jew marrying a black woman ownedWe have the mario kart kille- ACK
>>737793129>/v/ represents reality
>>737795986Remind me how's the mario movies critical reception
>>737714609They did everything right: better stages, characters and better driving mechanics than Mario KartI think it lacked marketing
>>737718445This confirms steamcucks dont play video gamesIf this were a FPS like Doom but with 3 layers of microtransactions it would have been a successReleasing games on PC is wasting money
>>737718892>tfw you realize MKW weekly sales are much higher than SRC's steam charts.
>>737714609I think parents in countries like Japan, South Korea and Indonesia dont have money to buy itI dont know but in Europe and Australia in 2011-2012-2013 before the globohomo empire destroyed all economies worldwide sonic games sold really well, I remember in UK there was a huge community of people buying physical games for PS3 even if there werent many good games Cost of living in Portugal, Spain, Germany and France reached levels that people are not even eating certain vegetables because it's too expensive, like potatoes and tomato. Unless people from Pakistan, India, China and Indonesia create a culture of buying console games and their middle class become strong, we'll witness big japanese corporations being sold to Chinese devsThe Chinese government allowed many Sega games to be sold there, including Yakuza 0, Kiwami 1, 2 and 3 so there is hope. Not sure how many millions of PS5 consoles were sold in China but the fact the communist party gave a green light to Yakuza and smaller franchises like Ys is a sign that there is hope
>>737718761I save money by not buying games I don't want. Consider using your brain.
>>737767361both ds and wii were soulful as fuck
>>737799843It had none of that.
>>737739903Proving his point.
>>737718445This kills the Sonicfag.
Utilities / energy EuropeSpain utilities: €120–180/monthFrance similar or higherEnergy costs increased significantly in recent years ChinaUtilities:~¥200–400 (€25–50/month)Even high estimate: €50–120 Lower rent (especially outside megacities) Much cheaper food Lower utilities Overall cost often 30–60% lower than Western countriesWe literally need to have hope the chinese communist party allow Sony to sell more and more consoles there and allow big brands like Square Enix and Sega to enter the marketAnother thing that might boost sales is china using AI to do work and create a welfare state for neets. They dont need to allow the outside world to know the neet/welfare system exist, they just need to make sure the young generation buy games with the welfare check, using wealth generated by AI and the lack of competition from the worldThe japanese government allowed outside world to bully their neets instead of using them to fuel the entertainment industry
>>737714609They shouldn't have dropped All-Stars from the title if they're going to have characters from a bunch of Sega games. It sounds like another Team Sonic racing. Despite the successful movie trilogy, 3d Sonic games are still only for gay furries and toddlers.
Sonic and All Star Racing Transformed is a 10/10 game, Sega is stupid for not releasing on PS4 and PS5. They should have released a PS4 version and a PS4Pro version and a PS5 version like Resident Evil 4, just flood the PSN Store with Sonic and people will eventually buy it
Both steam and console companies should put games like I'm In Love With Your Dead Grandmother in a very hidden special tab called "Budget indie games"Allowing these games to be on the same page as Sonic is not fair, it makes young generation think everything that is not GTA is junk
>>737801345I got a laugh out of I'm in Love with your Dead Grandmother I won't lieI don't remember what exactly I found funny, but I do remember there being at least one good joke in there
>>737722164nah gen z is progressive, gen x has the transphobes because of lead poisoning
>>737714609sonic has been a failed franchise for 2 decades now with 2 flukes in between, one of which wasn't even made by segajust put it out of it's misery already
>>737714609Steamies and Snoys said it was going to be a Mario Kart killer. It sold less than Kirby Air Riders.
probably something to do with them not bothering to put any effort in it and not voicing any of the DLC characters
There are too many video games and there are only a finite number of gamers. Save for a handful of older games that have generated loyal playerbases, it is exceedingly difficult, and indeed, unreasonable, for new games to have huge consistent playerbases.
i have no idea why they spent so much of the games budget on the fucking Nickelodeon collab, who in their right mind would want mute spongebob and Aang over Aiai, Tangle, Whisper, and Joker being voiced?
>>737801940>>737801718I'm trans, btw.
>>737799843You think wrong. It had plenty of marketing.
>>737714609>ITT: Tendies being retarded
Now that the thread is ending, OP made this thread because he got so mad about this one >>737630530 Probably realized how nobody talks about MKW anymore without comparing it to Crossworlds. World became an irrelevant milestone in Mario Kart's history.
It lasted longer than Mario Kart World and I am not trying to make a joke
people who care about player counts in games beyond the minimum number needed to get matches (in multiplayer games at least) are the most aids ridden sheep-brained retards of all time. it's the absolute epitome of normie trend chasing conformist-think. some of the best games I've ever played in my life have 10 players or less on at times. people who obsessively look at steam charts are beyond help
>>737803247Sad!
>>737803247>I've never seen a Mario Kart game forgotten so quicklyI don't think that was OP my boy.
>>737803779OP of current thread saw the other one, waited to be archived and created this one.Yes, he's that mad about Crossworlds.
>>737803247LMAO NO WAYDO TENDIES REALLY?
>>737719516>retards using sells>retards>sells
Are you trannies really same fagging? I bought it day one and the game sucks and feels cheap. It's like some of you brown retards were bullied by nintendo fans somehow.
>>737803247>even that mkw thread was a fart in the windLMAO, barely 150 posts.
>>737803973>Bharat OUT OF NOWHERETimmy, I...
Yeah Yeah, see you all at the next Festival thread
>>737714609You don't need to kill something that's already shit.CTR Unlimited > The Karters 2 > CTR > CNF >>> Mario Kart games
Samir lost.
it costs like 120 bucks here, there was no way i'd buy it
>>737805939Nobody cares.
>>737804065Most people in this thread are laughing at the game or calling it overpriced. More posts doesn't mean more isshat or that it's popular. Not everything works like your retarded bollywood films
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this thread still up?
>Another Crossworld thread hitting bump limitSonicchads we just can't stop winning. Enjoy your under 100-posts Mario Kart world thread, tendies. Maybe you can fill another 10 posts with sales numbers instead of playing the game.
>>737806728>only Mario is allowed to charge 70/80 dollars for it's gamesOkay
>>737806573made you angy though
>>737806765Isn't this more of a "laughing at Crossworlds" thread though?
>>737727742Sonic exe lore is more popular and free this means no Sonic exe no money but Sonic exe is free and shit soo...
