What's /v/ verdict?
pass
WE ARE EXPERIENCING A SLOP CRISIS.
i'm non-buynary
Joel > Jerma > Vinny > Jabroni Mike
>WAAAAH ALL THE GAMES USE AI!!!AI is the future and every studio uses it. Get over it
>>737850405OMG I LOVE XBOX!!!!
>>737850616>faggot retard > faggot retard > faggot retard > faggot retard > faggot retardthanks
The Bungulator
>>737850405I don't understand what's going on with Garry. I'm genuinely worried about him.
>>737850405just change it up a lil bit bro
>>737850628good morning sir
apparently the release did not go as badly as they expected which is kind of interestingapparently they were expecting mostly negative
once again, proving that Chuds can't make good games
are all the thumbnails for the creations really just youtuber slop thumbnails?
>>737850728>45% positive reviews is a GOOD thing and here's why!
>>737850728that's called cope. pre-empting a bad result with "oh well hmph i thought it'd go worse" is a very common coping strategy.
>>737850728bullshitgarry is an egotistical asshole, anything less than 90% would pucker his ass
COMPETENCY CRISIS
>>737850405I'm not paying 20 bucks for AI casinos
>>737850405Just wait and see, like everything else in gaming. The exception is if you're interested in developing for the platform.
>>737850616Incorrect tiering. Rev is better than all of them
>>737850886>rev>the literal who of vinesauce
>>737850853Can I interest you in a $20 SWAG Chain cosmetic for your hideous Sausage Man avatar?
>>737850781We're almost at 41%
I'm developing a game for it to make some easy money. The game runs like ASS on big maps due to how rendering works, don't know if this an engine problem or a dev problem.Dev tools are very good and prototyping is mad easy, will result in a lot of garbage.
>>737850728yeah fucking right lmao
>>737850853please
Why can't you ungrateful fucks just shut up? He worked on this for a decade. The least you can do is buy some stuff from the items shop to help support struggling developers
>>737850893god i miss 2018 /v/mod...
>>737850616mike is more entertaining than vinny these days
>>737850893Owned css before i owned gmod.
>>737850405It's an NFT metaverse game that leverages AI, but they don't use any of those buzzwords in the consumer-facing material. I think I understand what this is. They raised money by telling investors one thing, and hoped to sell it to devs and players by saying another thing.But that was years ago, and in the intervening time, the metaverse and nfts both failed and AI sloppa became toxic, so they're forced to just release it already and cut their losses, pretending it wasn't supposed to be any of those things. That's why it costs $20 when logically it should be free to entice developers onto the platform. They have to make back at least a little money somehow.
>>737850937NOW WERE TALKIN!!!
Oh boy, s&boxs&box is the DCU to roblox’s MCU if you think about it
>>737850728>h-heh, this isn't half bad, w-we were expecting a mostly negative rating atschkualy ;)pic rel. amazing how they were given source 2 sdk exclusivity and as such a success on a silver platter and they still managed to fuck it all up. valve should sue lol
>>737850886Maybe at planet retard
So this is trying to be roblox without graphics intended to run on any shitbox or smart phone, I understand that much, but I don't think that is going to be enough to entice people because even 20-somethings I know who are old enough to have jobs and their own powerful pcs are STILL playing roblox.Also, the fact that creators are paid out primarily based on playtime makes me feel like there is going to be a massive glut of idle games that you're supposed to just leave running in the background.
>>737850886sure. thats why he has 100 viewers on a good day.
>>737850405Why pay $20 for a roblox clone that needs 32 gigabytes of RAM when you can play roblox that runs on toasters for free
>>737850728It's a dumpster fire but it seems like RP degenerates are finding their footing in this game
>>737851107i mean the feedback they were getting before release was consistently"why the fuck are you guys releasing it's nowhere near ready"so i guess at least the development team knows, who the fuck knows about garry though
>>737851220it was really depressing being a dev in the preview and seeing just how many gmod rp collectives were coming overit was like dogs fighting over scraps of meat, legit sad, why the fuck do we need so many RP games it's all the same shitgo make something interesting ffs
>>737850728I believe it. It runs as well as it did when I previewed it a year ago(poorly).
>>737851220>>737851287rp in gmod is so fucking weird because nobody even roleplays
>>737851210The sense of professionalism maybe. "Roblox game dev" sounds kind of pathetic or a cop out from being a real dev, like "Scratch game dev" s&box/source 2 is a more respectable engine, especially for anyone who's not fucking 12 years old.
>>737850728>heh, I was expecting our game that lives and dies based on community content to have no one playing it in a week, I am VERY SMART! I AM GARRY! HEAR ME ROAR!brits have to STOP being like this, it isnt prim and proper, its fucking pathetic LMAO
>>737851038I think it I bought it when it was bundled with other source games in 2014 I spent all night watching npcs fight each other
>>737851380you say that but roblox game devs are making some of the most money out of any dev profession atmif you're a senior gameplay programmer and join a roblox collective you can get paid like 450/yrwasn't the kid that made grow a garden a billionaire at 17?
>>737851380>"Roblox game dev" sounds kind of pathetic or a cop out from being a real devthis is such an insane cope. roblox game devs make hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars. they make more money than "respectable" indie devs. this larp like you care about what is and isn't real game development is embarrassing as fuck, because the guy making millions of dollars doesn't fucking care if some faggot like you thinks he is or isn't a real developer.
>>737851334i've never understood it, last time i played gmod was in 2014 according to steam and back then i was banned from 3/4 of the servers for rdming peoplelike you have this cool engine with cloud libraries and quality physics and all this networking shit and you decide to make the exact same thing as what worked in garrys mod, and already exists in s&box? it's so fucking boring man, especially considering how complicated those RP gamemodes are to make. it's like seeing babe ruth walk up to the plate to hit a bunt and walk to first.
>>737851210It still runs like shit even if you have the recommended specs. They shat this out way too early expecting fans to produce masterpieces to encourage the growth that would fund the last stretches of the engine's development. But all it's got to show for itself is roblox tycoon AI slop and inferior unity-tier clones of already existing games.
God awful.It's just an uglier GMod with Robolox stuck onto it.
I get more and more confused on what s&box really is the more i learn about it. It's advertised as a game, a successor of Garrys mod yet all this talk about the engine and developing games within s&box, paying developers, NFTs. What does that have to do with Garrys mod?
>>737851472one of the people i used to talk to was retired at 26 because of robloxcreated some wild west gamemode in the early days and was valued in the tens of millions by 21
So far all the games I've played are boring or repeats from Gmod, I actually like the sausage men they have way more character than the alternative models.
>>737850886rev was whatever but i started passing when he kept putting his wife in the stream
If we could Liquify an Indian into code, it would look like this "game"
>>737850405>crypto NFT AIYou are LITERALLY genociding heckin artists!>crypto NFT AI, indie gamesWe're saving the industry! :)
>>737851575it's not garrys mod or roblox, it's all retarded marketing shitit's a game engine open source competitor to unity and godotthe platform has microtransactions that get added to a fund to pay devs to encourage them to use it but you can completely sidestep the platform if you're uninterested. you can get paid for making models/cosmetics/maps as wellfacepunch basically made their own engine for their own games after getting fucking pissed at unity for pulling that bullshit like 4 years ago and decided to staple a platform to it to make money
>>737851705I don't think anyone is arguing the AI shit is good, the retardation is in how Garry's dealing with it because he thinks third world vibe coding devs won't artificially boost their games for playtime revenue.
The fact that 12k pcbros tried this game is Insane
>>737851380you write this knowing full well that fucking Epic Games of all companies were trying to turn their billion dollar game into Roblox. The only people retarded enough to think people give a shit shit about being called a real dev based on what engine they use are in this thread right now.
>>737851812that's the reason the game costs money
>>737851380>like "Scratch game dev"Have you SEEN what the japanese and chinese kids make on there? Insane talent
>>737851825I don't believe those numbers because during testing there was only 1 full server the game felt like a ghost town
>>737850886The last time I peeked at him after ages he was defending some troon that was clearly terrorizing a local tabletop spot of his. Immediately checked out
>"Our proyect rely on the devs that understand better Hindi than English to survive" t. GarryI hope Valve sue them. They should.
>>737851728It's not an open source engine, it's not even an engine. It runs on Source 2.
>>737850616Who = Who = Who = Who
>>737851886Are there any "adult" Scratch games? I don't care if they're mspaint slop.
>>737851968Screenshot/link or you're trolling
>>737851620Why couldn't I born with the autism that made me interested in coding?
>Cosmetics already cratering in priceIt's over. Sell off those cardboard crowns NOW
>>737852137i'm not interested in coding either i'm interested in making games which gets me through the painful partsjust got that itch that doesn't let me sit still unless im working on something
>"S&box is a scam and white people are evil" t. Garry NewmanThis guy is insane
>>737852170The thirdies who invested their life savings into the cosmetics are going to rope
>>737851991almost all of the source 2 has been stripped out except the renderer and that's a WIPthey don't want to be tied to source 2 anymore because they're eating shitloads of licensing fees each monthvalve didn't give it to them for free
slopbox
>>737852095I've never heard of Scratch having an underground porn scene in the same way Roblox has. Probably because it would take more effort than it's worth to do it 2D. I imagine those projects must exist since Scratch is full of genderspecial furries, but they get cleaned up by Scratch janjans so fast and efficiently that there's no, or at least not as much, proliferation like Roblox's condo issues. It's also worth noting, on Scratch you get a temporary auto ban if you even mention Discord, whereas Roblox lets devs hook their Discord servers up to their game's page directly.
>>737850405>garrys mod crap that has massive memory leaks and lags like crazynah
>>737852276wtf I love S&box now!
>I eat babies, exclusively hunt endangered species, scream loudly in the faces of children, and personally worship Satan. Look at me I'm Garry woop woop woop woop woop!Jesus Christ, Garry's gone mad...
>>737852327So basically the whole point of s&box existing is pointless now?
>>737852612yupblame valve for being faggots and not giving us the source 2 sdk after 10 years
>>737850405GARRY ARE YOU OKARE YOU OKARE YOU OK GARRY
>>737851085>>737851170>>737851210s&box won, roblox furtrannies lost
>>737852656maybe they should have made a simple source 2 port of gmod instead of whatever bullshit they're doing
>>737851728>>737852656this all sounds like it's just a gigantic mess
The only thing Garry should release is a bowel movement
>>737852770and eat the 150k+/mo licensing fees?still doesn't address the problemeveryone wants to use source 2 but valve want to be faggots and sit on it like a dragon hoarding goldthose licensing fees weren't even for updated versions of the engine btw that was just for a snapshot version from when HLALyx releasedit had 0 support, hammer was constantly breaking, lighting was constantly breaking, they were having to maintain their own out of date valve tools and extend the engine at the same time while getting ripped offit's why they've deprecated actiongraph, hammer, changed from ECS to scene system, all of it is to take what source 2 code works, port it to C#, and throw away the rest
I first heard about s&box through youtube videos praising it as a game dev engine, thought it sounded interesting so wishlisted it. Then read these threads and immediately unwishlisted. Thank you /v/ for stopping me getting scammed. I appreciate it.
>>737852760>the only thing the tr&box pinoys have is this one image of some rando furfag to try and shit on KINGbloxYou will never be a real UGC platform.You have no developers, you have no games, you have no players. You are a hotdog man twisted by overpriced cosmetics and an ugly artstyle into a crude mockery of Roblox's perfection.
The game would be so much better if Garry didn't have a sexual fetish for Fanboy and Chumchum designs. God it looks so fucking bad.
>>737852873That's right Jack
Imagine if JMOD got source 2...............
>>737850405But can I make a tactics style game where I play as a rapist that Rapes women?
>>737853003never heard of this shit outside of these threads, why is this tv show so rent free
>>737852898this post has really opened my eyessource 2 is garbage that no one wants or needsgaben is simply scamming garry, the only person in the world who worships the source engine (because of gmod)
>>737853029>JMODjbmodsorry i farted while writing this
>>737852137if it makes you feel any better there's thousands of games from that era that werent successful, luck is still a factor
>>737853054It used to be trendy for internet autists to hate it years ago. I'm talking like 2015. Most people have come around these days and acknowledge it was a genuinely funny show. Some people also make fun of the fact Nickelodeon passed up Adventure Time for it, so AT went to Cartoon Network instead.
>>737852898this doesn't excuse that the dev tools they've given were just knock-off version of unity/godot with very little documentation
OHNONONONONONO
If I wanted to make my own game (simple platformer or beat em up at best) passion project with no real monetization in mind, is S&box beginner-friendly enough to make it happen?
Is that shit even worth pirating?
>>737853459yeah, if it's 3d. 2d support is limited at the moment
>>737853459use godot instead
>>737852872pretty muchapparently the only reason standalone releases are done via permission atm is because valve lawyersthey don't want anyone releasing games to any platform outside of steam with source 2 code in it so you have to1. first get approved2. publish to steam3. then you can publish to other platforms (after removing any steamworks/online ofc)it's insanely fucking jewish. seriously, fuck valve. steam is great for consumers but it'd be nice if they would move forward to the 21st century in terms of developer experiencepart of the selling point of s&box is native implementation of steamworks which is such a horrifically convoluted pain in the ass that valve had to make an entire game (spacewar) with a full website of documentation + examples to implement it and people still fuck it up constantlyit feels like there's five devs at valve who actually know what they're fucking doing anymore and all of them worked on half life alyx>>737853140what else were they going to dothey can't make gmod 2 because they don't have access to the licenses for HLA assets and theyre constantly going to have to maintain old tech while paying shitloads. they can't just extend the source engine either so no gmod assets could be natively imported, people would have to redo a lot of the shit from scratch anywaytheir main engine of choice for their own games got fucked because unity decided to commit suicide by consumer with the whole pay-per-download fiascoECS is a giant pain in the ass to work with in the first place and most developers don't want to touch an engine that implements it as its only option with a 10ft polethere's a reason every major engine uses scene systems now: it fucking works, and it's easy to work withalso where did this meme come from that the documentation is shit? you can F12 anything and read the source. it's not like unity where there's some engine stuff you can't read. there's also beginners guides everywhere.
>>737850728Garry is truly a retarded nigger
>>737853610>they can't just extend the source engine either so no gmod assets could be natively importedthere's already a hl2/gmod mount fyi, this is what s&box could really be cool for. mounting any game even non-source games
>>737853459no. roblox is the ultimate beginner engine. ironically, it's also the most profitable one.
>>737853459Yes if you ignore optimization, which is an autistic afterthought anyway. Even Undertale's code is bloated dogshit, though that was more on the dev than the engine. S&box's engine itself is unoptimized so if you want players to have 60fps you have to fix it yourself.
>>737850405There's no reason for something like s&box to exist in this day and age. If you want a game engine that's easy to use, there's already tons of viable options. If you want a popular modding platform filled with bored people looking to play a free game no matter how shitty it is, roblox already exists. There is no real usecase for s&box.
>>737850405>we want the roblox audience>but also, it's a paid gamehe lost touch
>think im getting gmod 2>im actually getting roblox steam edition>all discussion is about how it can be used to make profit instead of what funny contraptions everyones buildingAm I the sucker? Am I the retard for expecting S&Box, the game touted as the spiritual successor to Gmod, to be the spiritual successor to Gmod?
>>737854367it has an official sandbox mode with a new version of the Toybox (meaning you can spawn in dumb addon shit without needing to reload)
>>737854367if you want it for the sandbox mode then wait a few months
>>737854448Yeah, and it's half baked dogshit. Literally nothing about it is an improvement to Gmod's sandbox mode
>roblox but $20 and ugly character modelswhen will gayben release the source 2 sdk already? it's been 10 years
>>737854367>all discussion is about how it can be used to make profit instead of what funny contraptions everyones buildingThis is the biggest saddest truth about this piece of shit "game"
oh nononono the current cope is "atleast s&box won't have pedos like roblox!!"
more like garry newDICK
So I should just be using godot then? I was initially excited for this as a potential beginner dev
>>737854669People invested hundreds of dollars into the cosmetics already. They want you to buy this game and play their AI slop so their investments will skyrocket
How does the sandbox mode actually work? Can you download addons locally or do you have to go through garry's shitty service? That sucked ass in gmod since mod developers would constantly have tantrums and private their shit, and it'd disable it if you're online.From what I'm seeing, it's gmod's but even worse as the workshop is already built in to the mode.
>>737854836either use unity or s&box, or even fucking gamemakerdo not use godot as a new dev, it is an absolute trap despite what godot devs will tell youthe engine isn't nearly as robust as they say it is, and it's easy to do small things but you need to be an experienced programmer to do anything beyond that
>>737854836Why not use roblox?You could actually make good money.
>>737854836Go make an rpgmaker game
>>737854862models/entities/post processing/weapons etc load and spawn directly in-game, no restarting needed.unfortunately, there's no concept of "addons" in the old sense
>>737854892>the engine isn't nearly as robust as they say it is, and it's easy to do small things but you need to be an experienced programmer to do anything beyond thatIs that not the same issue with S&box?
>>737850728>put all your time and effort over the span of years into something you know will be shitIs he fucking stupid? If he knew it'd get a negative reception because it'd be bad why not scrap it and do something else with his time?
HOLY SHIT BROS, I FOUND ANOTHER KINO GAME
>>737854941no, you already missed the goldrush
>>737854367What would a gmod 2 even be? What can't gmod do? Did people really just want gmod but with rtx on?
why does this game have a cosmetic shop, is anyone going to care about dressing up their turd man?
>>737855085arbitrary engine limits for being a 20+ year old engine
>>737854367Most people today only care about making a quick buck. You'll have to wait for those types to leave the platform.
>>737855041Why does even the chat look exactly like Roblox? Is that part of the engine or did the dev do that?
>>737855041so the last square gave him admin?
>>737855091garry realized he can't actually charge people for maps and stuff because he'll then need to make sure that his shit updates dont break anything, so he came up with hats for your sausage man
who is this for? the time of gmod has long past kids are going to play roblox (its free) rpers are going to play Vrchat (its free) or GTA V roleplay (not free but 90% of the planet has GTA V)
>>737855134it's clearly a joke, also that video must be years old, the menu hasn't looked like that since forever
>>737855145okay I understand WHY it exists, I guess I'm just saying I can't see it being very lucrative compared to roblox's at least letting you attempt to make something cute or cool looking
>>737855041>this is EPICIt's funny because there's no way to tell if they're being ironic or not. That's literally the target audience.
>>737855201https://sbox.game/metrics/skins
>>737855085The flexibility of S&Box's tools, but with Half-Life Alyx's assets and entities mounted on. That's it.
>>737855085I don't see how updating Garry's Mod from an engine made in the 90s is a bad thing. The problem is Garry did not do that.
>>737855243okay I guess I didn't factor in people wanting to pay for purposefully dumb shit
>>737855015yupi just actually have faith that s&box will be somewhere in 6 months. i have no faith that godot is ever going anywhere.godot dev moves slower than democracy and each dev squad is subdivided into gay little tranny tribesthere's a reason why so many of the major backers have pulled outgo look at the amount of godot games released this year that are even remotely complicatedthe people that like using that engine like talking about developing games more than they like actually developing themif you want to only make game jam games then go ahead, because that's all it's good forevery developer i know who was duped after the unity fiasco into going to godot has either moved to unreal engine or back to unity because it can be such a fucking piece of shit to work withthere aren't randoms btw i'm talking people who have cleared 2m+ revenue saying fuck this because it isn't worth their time
>>737855041>Platform Masters 3D
>>737855369especially since the skins don't even work in every game, but i guess if people wanna buy them who the fuck cares, it pays out to creators
>>737855243this has to be a laundering scheme
https://sbox.game/metrics/playfunddevs arent even making much money lol, my game on steam which didnt even do good would be #10 here in half the time
>>737850405>weird and obtuse game name>sausage player models which people said were bad in alpha>paid skins and cosmetic shopI wonder why its 45% mixed on Steam and only 5k players?
>>737850405So is "Gary's Mod 2" just as shitty as Roblox?
>>737850628>Get over itShan't (be playing or buying)
>>737855387Did ulilaialiaja ever finish his game?
by the way, the payout is based on time played, if youre wondering why everyone is sluggish, its on purpose
>>7378554452025 was a crazy year. You got paid hundreds a month with just like 5 people playing your game each day
>>737855085Actual 64 bit support and removing all the dumbass limits from being a 2 decade old game engine.Also proper multithreading.
>>737855587This is garrysmod 2 anon.
>>737855085Some half decent vehicle physics
>>737851021>Haha, CUMyeah, peak of comedy
>>737855756I look like this
>>737855829natty?
>>737855863a razor is involved
>>737855680>low effort linear indie games purposefully stretching themselves to be just over 2 hours: the platform
>>737854836if you want a beginner engine, use roblox. lua is literally tard tier programming language and the tools are super intuitive. if you're already familiar with programming, then play around with godot or unity.sbox legitimately has no value for really any kind of developer.
What would be his reaction to s&box?
>>737856028pay me my licence
>>737856028>Vodka martini, please.>Thank you.
>>737856028>*briefly stops counting his money on his yacht*>Huh? Oh, that's nice... *continues*
>>737856028>did he pay the licensing fee this month? >yeah? alright, good. anyway
>>737856028Oh wow another slop game where people pay valve thousands of dollars buying and selling stupid shit on the market
>>737855947except if you want to do networking or any kind of onlinewhich it does better than any other enginei'd ask why people in these threads don't mention this more but that's pretty obvious
>>737856364>except if you want to do networking or any kind of onlineroblox literally does all of that for you what the fuck are you talking about. servers, server hopping, cross-server stuff, all of that is handled by roblox and you get basically full control over all of it.i'd ask why you're feigning ignorance but that's pretty obvious
>>737850616What does vinesauce have to do with this game?
Facepunch staff members are calling you luddies for not accepting AIslop. Spend 20 dollars on the game and deal with it goyim.
This game is in a pretty sad state right now. Is Gmod having a temporary resurgence with this release at least?
>>737856742Vinny played it a few hours ago
>>737857024I'm personally playing it right now after how dogshit S&box was Come home white man
>>737857024Gmod is fucking dead because most of the servers are shitty ass RP servers with the most Jewish and corrupt communities possible.
>>737857024gmod is pretty hostile to anything that isn't status quo p2w darkrp because garry mangled the game (presumably out of spite)
>>737857186the invisible hand of the free market will ensure that low effort AI crap is rightfully shot down while high quality human-crafted experiences remain popular
>>737850973>>737851046Why spend all this time making a rip-off of the Fortnite UEFN experience which is a rip-off of Roblox? Steal the Brainrot and Fart A Brainrot's core audience are not 25 year olds with $20USD to burn.. Roblox and Fortnite generate that kind of $$$ from in-game transactions because kids are stupid. They have AI-powered NPCs in-game that can comment on your performance in the match, go into character-specific lore (calling out the Peter Griffin skin for being a fat abusive retard, commenting on Messi's stats or gay fortnite lore no one cares about that is particular to an original skin).. bro not only baked the stalest, most gross pie he could grab off the shelf but then cut off the tiniest slice he could. Why not just a straight proper Gmod: Source 2 with old asset migration tools?
>>737857195>>737857253>he can't have fun in singleplayerGmod was never for you
>>737855680>>737855920>spend years making a game development platform>but it's designed in a such a way that it's an armsrace on who can make the biggest skinnerbox
>>737850773Notch?
>>737850405This game was made to be one of those random "Twitch" shit games, but it failed. Pass.
>>737856896If AI will take over why should I bother buying their game? Gemini will just generate it for me
>>737857579USE AI TO MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. YOU'RE RETARDED! DO YOU HATE FREE MONEY????
>>737856447sure, my bad, they're the best at networking, so long as you do it within the 4 walls of the prison they built for you in a platform made for childrens&box's licensing agreement might be retarded right now but i at least know that people are releasing their games to steam and then have the possibility of taking it somewhere else because it's already happenedroblox? you're fucked six ways from sunday. your game is trapped.any of their materials? gone, property of roblox, get fucked. any of their models? get fucked. they're the only ones who use exclusively Luau and their own visual scripting instead of a real programming language.Lua doesn't even fucking port 1:1 to Luau, Luau doesn't port to GLua, it's code on a fucking island. you'd need to rewrite every line if you want to port your game to a different platform.if shit goes tits up with s&box i'll just be back to unity, where the API's are practically the same. it'll take me a couple weeks to port, but the only things that would be completely gone is my UI code, unless unity has some razor/blazor plugin i don't know about
Shout-out to that tweet showing half life in source 2. I got the game for free because of that. It's improved a lot since then. Still needs some work though. Played prop hunt and did nothing but clip out of map unintentionally
>>737854145I hated seeing this shit in alpha and I hope it phases away. That and the cookie clicker games
>3 threads so far >barely any screenshots/footage of anyone having fun has been postedyeah totally natural praise. everyone loves it!!!
>>737858121You know who else everyone loves?
>>737855445bear in mind every time you play a game mode you are giving those people money.a lot of the developers are in a discord clique of trannies that invited each other early on in the developer preview in an attempt to form a cabal so they could shut other devs out.
>>737858121What you mean this isn't peak gameplay bro?
>>737857740>any of their materials? gone, property of roblox, get fucked. any of their models? get fucked.unironically what the fuck are you talking aboutyou own everything you make on that platform. people regularly create off-site merch for their games. the only real gripe you list is that if you want to port your game, you have to basically remake all of it. which is a valid critique for like 2 seconds until you realize there's no reason to port your game off of the website where games regularly make millions of dollarsis this like some 4d chess where you make a bunch of shit up to falseflag as a malinformed tr&box developer to make them all look bad or something?? i'm having a hard time believing you can type all of that unironically
Okay but what if I take the time to make a good game with this? Something that isnt rushed AI slop but like an okay indie game ,surely it will pay off right?
>>737858121But everyone is talking about how shit it is...
>>737858316>play game>it sucks>refund it and talk about how shit it iscrazy
>>737851287Gotta get those play fund sheckles
>>737858309There's already a ton of free good games on Roblox and no ones playing them. What's making it 20 dollars and making you play as an ugly hotdog man going to change?
>>737850893obsolete meme
>>737858309the game has no playerbase. nobody will play your game. at least on roblox, there's no $20 entry fee if you want to direct people you know to check it out.
>>737858309Just do it on RobloxNobody is going to play it on Garry's shitbox and some faggot may even recreate it in Roblox and rake all the profit
>>737850886I used to like Rev, but once Trump got reelected he became fucking insufferable.
>>737858309The most played game is about cutting grass, anon. The bar is on the floor.
>>737852760That's unironically more appealing than a sausage man
>>737858509Blandbox being so shit made me reinstall garrysmod and I'm playing that instead
i am going to stop giving the roblox developer yousroblox games routinely make millions of dollarsnot yours though, fucktard. that platform has been raped and desecrated so completely by corposlop that if you ever have a good idea, there's going to be a 50 person development house ripping it off from you and have a complete copy of it done in three days better than you can do it, with their own already established fanbase and your game will drown in the algorithmit happens all the time. grow a garden was a 1 in a hundred million exception, randos are not making money on roblox anymore, including you and everyone you know. that era is gonet. person who knows many roblox developers who have all quit the engine or work for one of the big studios that churn garbage games out in the dozens per week >>737858309just ignore the platform and publish to steam, that's my playmight post demos onto the platform so i can get money for doing no work
>>737857740https://www.walmart.com/en/c/brand/adopt-mehttps://playpiggy.net/https://shop.jazwares.com/collections/royale-highhttps://www.makeship.com/shop/creator/doorsare you a fucking retard or do you just go online to tell lies about things that can easily be Googled in like 2 seconds? like how fucking dumb are you? I literally just Googled "Roblox game merch"is your skin color the same color as human shit? If so you don't need to reply because I am pretty sure I already know based on your intelligence.
>>737850405Why would I play this when Garry's Mod exists?
>>737858838https://www.walmart.com/browse/adopt-me-/YnJhbmQ6QWRvcHQgTWUhhttps://gamerrobot.com/collections/merch-featuredfucked up the adopt me url also here's one more that showed up when I had to Google 3 words a second time, retarded nigger
>>737858309Actually yeah, it's just that for the next few months you get slop because that's what can be shat put in the timeframe. S&ndbox is a techdemo/ source2 engine license to streamline indie steam releases in source 2.
>>737851085I don't think that's aptRoblox is Mario (now for complete babies, too big to do anything wrong) and S&Box is 40 Winks
>>737850405It's ludo
>>737854367Monetization ruins everythingI know gmod is a paid game fuck you, you know what I mean
>>737858790>get proven wrong every time you open your mouth>passive aggressively concede that you were wrong about literally everything but chase it down with "W-WELL YOU'RE NGMNI ANYWAY"If this is not a searing indictment of the tr&box crabs-in-a-bucket mindset, I don't know what is. Every time you post anything you make it infinitely less appealing for anyone to pay any attention to your platform.
>>737850405Garry is mentally ill and has a scat fetish
>>737858856So you can scam kids into playing your cookie clicker game and you earn money from players*time playing.
>>737858774I mean css textures are included in gmod now
>less than 5,000 players>hardly any threads about the gamedead on arrival
>S&box>supposed to be read "sand box">can't stop myself from reading it as "ass and box"
>>737858995grok is this real
>>737856896What shade of brown is Conna? No wonder the game is shitty, it's literally made by jeets!
>>737859049Oh my bad. I reinstalled it and the orange box games too. Yeah I'm thinking it's node graph rebuilding time.
>>737851550>make the exact same thing as what worked in garrys mod, and already exists in s&box?the only way rp can improve is graphics. The source engine is slow and shit and source 2 is (atleast supposed to be) less shit and nicer looking (when the player models aren't walking disembodied cocks). RP fags are retards but they have everything to gain from moving to source 2
>>737855756Don't miss out on the SWAG chain anon!
>>737856896why would I be mad at ai spam killing this shit game?
>>737859216how the FUCK ELSE is anyone going to know how $WAG I am?
>>737859057sampersandbox
Do we get free TF2 items for preordering or buying the game???
>>737859397you lose $20 and get a ticket to a broken unfinished mess with no enjoyable games on it.
>>737859397No but if you played before it was released you got a bunch of disgusting cosmetics you can resell for 300-500 dollars
>>737859510>you can resell for 300-500 dollarsthis requires there to be someone stupid enough to buy them. they're like NFTs, but somehow worse, because at least the NFTs had a chance to pay out a comically high amount even if it was longshot.
>>737859665Same reason why people dump thousands into CSGO items.
>>737859715the difference is that csgo items actually sell
>>737859665back when mascots were added to 100% orange juice i lucked out 2 of star eater...that its a premium mascot, saved one for myself and sold the other one for 30$ bucks literally minutes after i posted it, mind you i just put up that high of a price as a joke since no one else was selling it
>>737859959forgot to add, that same mascot is like less than 1$ on the market last time i checked.
>>737858309>Something that isnt rushed AI slop but like an okay indie game ,surely it will pay offWhy not just use Godot or Unity at that point? Why even give Garry your money?
so, is there no good games at all on s&box?
>>737860374
>>737860374See also>>737851085No it's all phone game shit that at best is novel for 5 minutes or is something already in gmod like prop hunt
>>737860374S&box has no games
>>737860374Dark descent was decent last time I played, though I heard some update broke it and hasn't been fixed since
>>737850405Am I forced to use those absolutely horrid character models if I play this game?Can't I swap my character's model out with like Zero Suit Samus or Shadow the Hedgehog like I could in Gmod?
>>737850405i thought some people were given access to develop content for 2 years to seed the launch with stuff. is there some limitation preventing meaningful things from being made or is everyone that got early access really just that pathetic
please do keep coping about your engine choice. i definitely believe you will make millions as you seem to think you willgoing to roblox as a developer to make money in the modern day is like paying a five dollar hooker to love you forever, and has about the same chance of actually succeeding in the long run.>737858990you're either samefagging for more yous or slithered out of your mothers cunt and fell on your head in the same way he did because two people in the same thread cannot possibly have the same kind of brain damage. i wasn't wrong.industrialized slop is still a massive problem on roblox. solo devs and small teams are still EXTREMELY RARELY making money. it's still a walled garden of shit and you're locked into their ecosystem. the language still sucks. he apparently didn't read the part where i said THEIR materials and THEIR models, (which you're highly encouraged to use). cool that you can monetize merch, but guess what? you can also do that on steam. also, you're never getting to the point where people are buying your merch, because again, industrialized slop machine dev houses will take your idea and make it better and label it as theirs. he got me on their networking being better, and that's nice, but you get better networking for a platform that's about to get hit by age restriction armageddon in 2 months.how do i know all this? i know actual roblox developers who actually have made actual money on the platform, and all of them have jumped ship or joined the slop machine, and they've told me this over and over again. if you want to sit down and plug your ears because you don't like it, go ahead. doesn't change the truth.if you actually bothered to read anything i was saying from the beginning by the way, i said networking. i'm not a fucking s&box developer. i'm a game developer. i've made games in UE5, Unity, Godot, GameMaker, UE4. s&box sucks for tons of shit, but its networking tools are legitimately the best i've ever seen.
>>737852170yes haha yessss
>>737860601>Can I do [fun thing] like in Gmod?lollmao
>>737860630there's a gargantuan amount of ai generated idle game slop, thats what people were making
>>737860630All they made was Roblox gambling slop or shit from other games
>>737853609I have three years of experience with unity and unreal modding and godot is completely impenetrable for me because I can only program using GUIs.
>>737860405>Guy quipped, "Anthony ... I hear you’re the only one in [culinary] class who did most of his cooking with a spoon and a Bic lighter" ... referring to Bourdain's self-confessed past heroin use.
>>737860374There's the marble racing game, that's it.
>>737860645this sounds like the post of someone seething because no one liked their roblox gamesame energy as devs who insist that there's no benefit to having your game on steam's new releases/front page
The issue is if you do a closed beta just for developers and youtubers for 5 years, people are going to expect something worth playing when you finally release it to the public.Unfortunately, all that exists is the most barebones AI slop ever and a bunch of NFT ads on the main screen.
>>737860630They were making absolutely nothing of substance, even with a $10k bounty to make a decent game the best that could be scraped up were a 1:1 copy of cod zombies with ms paint graphics, and a game about mowing your lawn.
>>737860601yeah you can make the models into whateverthey probably have some gay copyright shit where you cant make money off of stuff you dont own though
>>737860630hard to convince developers to keep working on your engine when you have constant API changes and no chance of actually releasing your game for an indeterminate amount of time because the engine had no defined release date for yearsalso an extremely hard sell when the licensing was and is still extremely ambiguous because of legal issues behind the scenesthere was some cool shit that was made. someone was working on some low poly condemned criminal origins type thing, one racing game like f-zero, etcall of it is unplayable atm because something broke the code and there's only so many times you can fix something before you just say fuck it
>>737859057ÉseEbókis
>>737860101But anon youre not thinking about the POTENTIAL that this will end up not being shit in the future!
You know what else is funny, some of the NFT cosmetics like the jar head force your character to the black man model so you can't even customize properly.
>>737850405if they fix the performance (or at least put out guides on how people can better optimize their maps) and make the game more like gmod (allowing custom character models in sandbox, let people subscribe to shit in the workshop, etc) then they could probably right the ship. idgaf about the paid content shit, let me play as reimu instead of the hotdogs or assetflip humans
>>737861231why niggaif you want to make games use a readily available engine that has documentationif you want to play a game play anything else
>>737855002they really need to add support for older style addons because not being able to download new tools or crazier entities like youtube media players sucks
>>737861516The sandbox mode was only added last minute for damage control, you're not supposed to actually play it.
>>737861171i am suddenly desperate to be able to play as a clearly realistic felt looking fumo model in an otherwise normal looking vidya environment
>>737858309if you want something to "pay off" you make an idle game targeted at iPad kids
>>737861263i guess i just want it to be the continuation of gmod a game i played alot when i was younger.
>>737861721play gmod instead, this has nothing for you
>>737851472>>737851620>>737852137... roblox games make money?I thought they only made tix that you could exchange in the company store for clothes or robux for other clothes?
>>737861750its dead
>>737855085well as someone who does a lot of mapping for gmod still:>no more brush limits>no more vertex limits>no more map size limit>real mesh editing>bsp/visleaf tools have had 20 years of improvements>better viewport editing, hammer++ is nice but both hammer 2 and the S&Box editor are far ahead of it in terms of previewing>much easier to use custom assets, no more having to convert all textures to .vtf or writing .vmt files by hand.>a material editor thats similar to the ones in every other game engine>hotspot texturing (incredible)>much better prefab/instance workflow for reusing map content>much better organization toolsif they actually fix the performance issues and expand the sandbox gamemode/workshop it could be incredible for mappers and people that like exploring gmod maps
>>737861841roblox has had the developer exchange program for like over a decade now and it's normal for the top 1000 games to make tens of thousands on the low end and millions on the high end. you've been able to convert robux to real money for years.
>>737861865it's significantly less dead than S&box, which has less players and nothing to do
>737860970looks like you ran out of arguments to make.keep coping timmy. i hope someday you make it.
>>737861628like it could have been incredible if they just had done gmod but source 2, nobody wouldve even given a shit if they tried implementing the roblox shit AFTER that but noooo we gotta sausage
>>737861940imagine cultivating for 11.3 years and being unable to surpass yourself
so every game released is a flop now except maybe one indie slop per month?
>>737862372this is going to sound crazy bro but back when i was your age we used to get game devs releasing new games that were better than their old ones
>>737860785to me it's insane that people like you exist90% of everything i do in unity is staring at lines of code
>>737862372There's Casualties Unknown
>>737850405>pay for game to play game>find out game exists to make games>nobody plays any of them
>>737860601wow chud you actually want to have fun while playing this game? unbelievable
>>737861098just ask claude to fix it
>>737852898as someone that hates garry for being a fucking faggot all the way back with rust and going >HURR DURR YOU HAVE TO PLAY AS A BLACK BECAUSE BLACKS ARE OPPRESSEDi'm happy gabe dicked his wallet, and his latest game is a total flop.
Any obscure game engines you've been interested in?I remember Flax Engine https://flaxengine.com/features/
>>737861936why do any of this when adding microtransactions is so much easier
>>737863079ogre3d!
>>737862948he's a changed man anon
>>737863079stride
>>737855827>pro lgbtq>lowbrow bottom-barrel comedy>high IQ commentary and insightyou may not like it but jabroni mike is peak twitch content for the discerning intelligent consumer
>>737863529>pro lgbtas a trans gooner, all lgbt pandering is shit.
>>737860630You needed to been in a trooncord circlejerk that sucked off garry so a lot of people didn't fucking bother and continued to fuck around in the dozens of other platforms where you don't need to do that shit (roblox, godot, unity, fucking gmod)>>737861098Also this
>>737850628Piracy is my future. Get over it.
>>737863645it's not pandering if he's being genuine
>>737863735it's pandering. he's a 50 year old new yorker.
I had some pretty good RP servers in gmod where you could actually, you know, roleplay. Too bad you have to waddle through a swamp of shit servers filled with powertripping faggots and corrupted staff
>>737863838>a balding red italian man in his late 80s can't have empathy for gays
>>737863356>changedHe's still a faggot tho
My best memories in Gmod were going to some random build server on gm_flatgrass and just building contraptions with people, installing wiremod and learning to use it, and playing Spacebuild with others, making ships, space stations, and moonbases. Plus Deathrun, Climb, and Suicide Barrels.Nowadays it's all DarkRP crap. Such a shame.
Can someone explain it to me for people who want to create stuff? Is every map a game mode? Can you create multiple maps per game mode, or is that every time a new entry with a full profile page? Do you have to run a server for people play your game mode?
i made a game with a little toon that jumps around in my map but i don't know how to into 3D movementhow would i do something like give the player a diagonal impulse? pick an x, y, z coordinate and add the players x, y, z coordinates towards it by uhhhhh idk, the engine didn't really tell me how to do anything and i've only done 2D gamedev before
>>737850405>Paid game engine that's too complex for casuals who only want to make funny game modes most of the times>Paid game engine that's too limited for actual devs that might as well use something that doesn't limit how they can sell or distribute their games, or a platform with an audience>Casual players just see a mixed reviews, high requirments roblox clone that doesn't run in a potato or their phonesBoy, I love when a game is made for no one!
>>737864321>Can you create multiple maps per game modeIf it's anything like roblox you can script it to create a "new" map, aka load a different oneHave you tried looking at the game itself for these basic questions?
>>737865251I should remind you this is a paid game and that a decent chunk of players complain about the lack of competent documentation
>>737865212there's something truly spectacular about your average game today saying some audacious shit like>recommended specs:>a 2060 from 2019and>any bum ass cpu with at least 6 cores from the last decadeand the results are always>hey this shit doesn't fucking work on my 5080 gpu and ryzen 7 999999999x5d>circa: fucking yesterday
>>737850930no that's fred or direboar/whatever the fuck he's known as now
>>737850405There’s too much slop.This is closer to a Roblox than a gmod. It may become worth it later in time, but I’d like to see someVery strict moderation and for the team to handout money not entirely based on playtime but on quality.
>figure /v/'s making too big of a fuss over the sausage men and they can be swapped out for something better anyway>they are actually the FACE of this game>there's no escaping themif anything, /v/ didn't make ENOUGH of a fuss over them.
>>737850405So, instead of developing and impoving Garry's mod they made this turd?
>>737856896So glad this shit bombed
>>737866123There's really fuck all they can do with gmod since they're stuck on an engine older than most of its playerbase. S&Box is basically it in Source 2 but also with monetization because Garry got jealous of how much Rust makes.
S&box legitimately had all the makings to bring in millions of dollars and Garry puts out this shit thats dead in the water
>>737860374Finally, S&Box has given us:>Unlimited games...>But no games.
why do you have to play as Klippel-Feil syndrome people
>>737850405WHERE'S THE DEMO
>>737853732>S&box's engine itself is unoptimizedNigga, what are you talking about? Source 2 is very stable.
>>737868313but the game itself isn't
>>737866123 Yeah, pretty much.GMod’s held together with duct tape, Lua spaghetti, and an engine that predates YouTube. There’s only so many times you can repackage “physics sandbox with addons” before you hit a wall. Updating it to Source 2 would basically mean rewriting the entire thing from scratch anyway.So that’s what this is. S&Box *is* “GMod 2,” just with a marketplace bolted on and a weird Roblox identity crisis.Problem is they ditched the jank charm and replaced it with corpo monetization and those fucking sausage homunculi. If it was just “GMod but modern and stable,” nobody would be complaining this hard. Instead we got Early Access Roblox-core with recommended specs from NASA and zero killer modes.They didn’t make a turd instead of improving GMod.They just rebuilt GMod in a lab and forgot to make it fun.
>>737862449>furnigger abuseslop
>>737865212the moment they decided to make it a paid thing it was doomed, if you ever want to beat roblox or fortnite it should be widely accessible(free), I do not know why some devs do not get that and still insert paid cosmetics into their paid shit
>>737856896Why is s&box being sabotaged so blatantly? Why would they ever say this? You have moderators, fucking moderate your platform. People are always going to post DNB online, that doesn't mean you have to leave it up on your turf because muh pandora's box.
>>737852170I sold everything I bought for around 40 bucks right before release, only spent a tenner :^)
>>737868962The hell is "DNB"?
>>737869161deez nuts bitchGOTEM
>>737869161I think he means "Do not buy" but I will choose for it to mean "Drums n Bass"
>>737851334having seen a bunch of bub games videos, it seems gmod rp consists entirely of standing around doing nothing interesting. if anyone comes in to do something interesting, you complain about fail rp and dm a mod
>Some people are so disapointed they're actually resorting to playing HomobloxJesus.
>>737861936Dear gmod mapper,Where do I find collections of cool maps to wander through? I have not booted up gmod in an age but feel like reliving some late teen nostalgia.
>>737855827Semen is another kind of milkAnd a lot of people tend to like it!
>>737855827vinny has spent a total of an hour drawing literal shit in tomodachi life
>>737869161alive white kid
they really should have launched with another weird gamemode or two made by facepunch to show what the engine can do rather than just dropping with a vampire survivors clone and a bunch of community-made vibecode gambaslop
>>737861936>>bsp/visleaf tools have had 20 years of improvementsIf you haven't already, grab Tools++ off the same site as Hammer++seriously the VVIS from that is some fucking black magic, it took vis from a few minutes to a few seconds for me on some of my maps
>>737850405my verdict is a new addition to the thread filter
>>737861150can an ai rewrite this image in actual English, please
>>737870164announcing that you've filtered something should be treated the same way as saying you saged/reported
>>737870208what should your post be treated as with this new standard
>>737856028>my favorite class is this pie>*eats*
>>737855034sunk cost fallacy
>>737850405garry if you're reading thisjust leak the source 2 sdk already you dumb niggerthis game is a massive flop, we just want to see cool gadgets valve madeor get them to release it themselves once your game's sitting at 15% positive reviews
>>737870873S2 is nothing special, just use UE or Unity
>>737859715I hate those equally
>>737850405garry should kill himself
>>737868924i still don't get why you would buy s&box itself when they already plan to let people publish games made with it on steam. this is the one game so far with a steam page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3115420/My_Summer_Cottage/it doesn't use the sausage characters, isn't available in the s&box server list, and doesn't have skins/cosmetics. so what is the point of paying $20 for s&box when you could just buy the good games made with it (lol) for $6. it's not like owning s&box gives you free access to any games published with it.
>>737855756Fanboy and ChumChum looking ahh model.
>>737852463>on Scratch you get a temporary auto ban if you even mention DiscordJesus now THAT's fucking based
>>737851201>popular=good
>>737853124>Most people have come around these days and acknowledge it was a genuinely funny show.sounds like lowkey mlp
>>737853485what's the point of pirating the game if you don't get access to its Workshop?
>>737851287>Such an open devkit>There isn't even a good minigames game yet, just some squid game ripoffsI've no idea what I'm doing but S&ware needs making.
i'm gonna continue making games, i enjoy the engine
>>737867727sounds like purgatory for /v/
>>737863079anyone remembers Cube and its forks?
why didn't garry back off with the god damn sausage people
>>737874708The cosmetics were already made
>>737870873>s2 sdkthey don't have it, just HLA stuffall the fun HLX/Dota/CS2/Deadlock stuff is not available
the future of gaming is so so so bleak
What is this custom games crap? I just want to make a car out of bathtub and chair
>>737853485I don't think you would be able to, it's almost entirely dependent on garrys servers
>>737874801We could've had a proper S2 SDK by now, but because Valve is lazy and Garry came forward first with his idea,the closest thing we'll get to S2 is his vibe coded, S2-Unity mish mash, frankenstein contraption of an engine
>>737874708Garry looks like a fat sausage irl
It's really embarrassing to scroll through the games on offer. Garry really should have made sure there were some good games developed and featured on the front page before launching this
what is this about?
>>737875310S2 SDK with HLXTRVST THE PLVN
>all reviews: mixedShould I care about this?
i love particles
>>737875210I get *why* it's the way it is but Garry should have put the Facepunch made games front and center with Sandbox at the top.For the majority of people, Sandbox is what gmod always has been about and always will be.It also makes the game seem less slop-filled when there's the list of like 20 demo games Facepunch made as the top of your list.
>>737875815no, you should buy and redeem the game
>>737876112yea, they really needed an official catalogue. like 10 curated, 10 in-house, or whatever. what the FUCK were they thinking?
>>737875815Steam reviews are reactionary retards at the best of times.>Game that's a user content platform is crap when there's no user contentIf you're interested in development for it, give it a go. Otherwise wait for a sale.>>737876326They wanted too much to emulate Roblox. Which is stupid because they were never going to get the Roblox audience since they're all ipad kids.The whole project is undercooked (You have to go hunting for the dev kit despite that being one of the selling points) but at least Garry can sell his cosmetics.
My bad if this has already been posted, but I think I found out why most of the s&box games suck right now. People who were working on projects that take more effort than AI slop roblox gambling had their early access revoked because they weren't uploading games fast enough.https://sbox.game/f/gendev/2063/1/
>>737876437>is undercookedbut it was firstly announced almost 10 years ago
>>737877014There is also no barrier for uploading games, if it cost like 1 dollar to make a game public it would filter out like half the slop
>>737877014Does that matter anymore? You can just buy the game now
>>737877323making games takes more than 2 days
>>737877014Garry jesus christ what were you thinking
I have no doubt people will find ways to exploit the monetization model by the end of the week, you just know that the fact that Garry is incentivizing play time will lead to some sort of botting problem, maybe the game having an upfront cost will prevent that but bots find a way
>>737877410When's the last time he actually made a game? He probably doesn't remember or doesn't give a shit how time-consuming it is. Maybe he also thinks a catalog of slop is the lesser evil to an empty catalog.
>>737850628good to know. i was considering it but i'm never boughting this now. fuck your slop
>>737850616no hate to joel but hes just not funny to me.vinny>jerma>joel>literallywho
>>737877651Vinny sounds so miserable in his streams these days. I can't really watch him anymore because I get second hand embarrassment from him forcing himself to play a romhack or fan game and the dev's in chat all hyped and vinny is just not interested in playing their shit at all and wants to be done as soon as possible.
>>737877783i prefer his genuine apathy over fake performative wacky and zaney reactions for the children watching to clap along to like a lot of others do
>>737877783Moistcritikal originally got big doing exactly this though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXgATeVgs8
>>737877492they already are, check out the grass cutting slop that always has like 200 players
>expect gmod>get Roblox with the same predatory practices
>>737876112>>737876326it already is, featured games on the front page with facepunch games and some other picked ones
>>737879250there are no ingame microtransactions, only skins that don't even work in half the games
>>737851021>mike is more entertaining than vinny these daysMike doesn't even play videogames anymore.
>>737879672>>737851021The Jabroni Mike discord is so cancerous and full of rabid transexuals that it ruined any entertainment I got from that guy and I realized he's just some senile old faggot who rambles about his life while not caring about anything hes doing on stream.
>>737879781why are you in their discord then
>>737879858I always check out the discords of streamers like that because it tends to be full of people talking about being suicidal who you can report to get banned or warned by discord and watch them rage when their attention seeking behavior gets them in trouble.
>>737851085i don't think you needed to bring up comic book movies to say one thing is a low quality copy of another
>>737879918this sounds like unnecessary stress, just watch the videos/streams instead, much better
>>737877527He made some bullshit excuse about the casino and idler games by saying "a game that people spend lots of time on IS a good game" when people complained about the profit sharing weighing playtime over everything else.
Actually you need to understand, this was Garry's plan. He wanted half the game's userbase to vanish overnight and to have no one new come in due to poor reviews. You just don't get Garry's master plan.
>>737881902>umm I atschkualy wanted my product to flop ;)this is probably how the narcissist copes despite basically being on valve welfare
>>737850616Joel hates trannies while all the other ones suck tranny cock.
>>737883042I like Joel but it's hard to keep up with someone who streams once a month while he's busy editing YouTube videos that no one cares about
JBmod2 would rape s&box.
>>737877651>jerma His fans ruined him for me. They ruined art night. They're all disgusting trannies now and jermas too much of a pussy to say anything
>>737850628Ok, but why cant they use it to make good things?
>>737850783So what?
>>737883790>So what?Nigger has no faith in his game what the fucks the point
>>737883790hi garry!
>>737883523He won
>>737870208>op asks for verdict>give verdict>noooooo not like that
>>737851021>gets banned for showing a biden meme with faggot written on it>keeps laughing at itvinny would never
>>737850616Didn’t Joel retire? I think he only streams a couple of times a month now
>>737884225The dead rising stream he did when he could barely speak english was kino.
>ban old players>nuke forums>sausage men>launch to 2k playerswhat was the plan here?
>>737884436The community will fix it. Two more weeks. Trust the plan.
>>737884436>>737884525George droyd entity were saved.
>>737884525what community?closing down facepunch forums nuked from orbit 95%+ of the community i cant imagine how could any project recover from that
>rabaanThis guys defending the game in every steam thread. Is garry hiring indians??
>>737885090No, he's just one of those turbo jews selling his stolen assets hoping to make a quick buck off ipad kids who can't run this shit.
Garry should've hanged himself 10 years ago
>>737885197So s&box is gonna be an Indian money farm? Saar it ain't so!
>>737885320Indians and crypto bros/jews.It's really funny that the community this fostered is all scammers.
HAHAHAHAHA >breathes inAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAA
>gmod was cool but you know what would make it better? if it had no workshop items and instead was full of microtransactions and phone games!!!!!im genuinely fucking mad
>>737850595Yes we know you're a poor brownie
>>737883790Hey, that's a good question: so what if they thought it would do worse? It's still trash and a failure.
>watch some footage of it>99.9% of the "games" available are either aislop, shitty clones of already shitty itch.io slop, or shitty clones of already shitty roblox slop>the remaining 0.01% is some my summer car/finnish cottage simulator type knockoff with a few minigames and no real content that's only on shartbox for a "tech demo" and is going to release as a standalone title
so why didn't he just... make this freenobody is making a serious game for this
>>737885842Gmad
>>737885959because he thinks he's worth shit
>>737885842Slopbox reminds me of the empty metaverse
>>737859057It's not 'sandbox', it's 'es-et-box', as in 'asset box'.
While the idea of being able to use source 2 engine seems cool, the developer of this seems like the type of spiteful retard who would deprecate half the engine on a whim while telling you it's your fault. If this shit was really in development for 10 years I'd expect to see some decent games by now that aren't just "look its a poorly ported gmod gamemode!" or crypto slop.
>>737886070It is a metaverse game, also has NFTs. They just don't describe it that way because while they were developing the game both of those things failed miserably
>>737885959Apparently he's planning to make it free in about 2 years. Considering the disaster that are player numbers and gamemodes on catalogue, I guess he may even make it free this year.
>>737885090Dev defenders are very sick people
>>737875815it went from 55% to 44%. im patiently awaiting the overwhelmingly negative reviews after a few months
>>737886160So Ass et Box, as in Latin et, Ass and Box
This looks gay and lame.I think I will go stage a giant npc battle in gm_bigcity and make Breen’s head giant instead.
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>>737887789LOL
>>737850405is this the godot killer?
>>737852327>almost all of the source 2 has been stripped out except the renderer and that's a WIPso what does it run on? source 1?
>>737888720its the garry killer
>>737886932>source 2even that was a lie. they heavily modified it, removing the whole point of this "game" in the first place. the systems they then built around it incentivizes low effort sloppa. what's the endgame, exactly? even at $0 entry fee it would be questionable to spend hundreds of hours to develop on this
>>737870116does that work with gmod? i know slammin has some issues with the November 2025 update
>>737887789Yes, I like bunda.
>>737850616I enjoy Mike for the most part but I had to tune out when he had WhiskeyDingo on his stream, that guy is so painfully cringey and I despise him for having his fans shit up Vinny's chat
apparently the game making "engine" part is barely source 2 anymore, it majority gary's bogged unity clone, the biggest remaining part of source 2 is the renderer and he's currently trying to replace that too.seems gary's eventual goal is to remove all of source 2 so he can stop paying the license, so this entire thing acting as a source 2 sdk substitute is dead in the water already...
>>737869410try search terms for stuff like "exploration" or "scenic" then sorting by most subscribed or most popular. or searching for specific types of places like "aquarium" or malls. theres like 65k maps now so theres a lot out there, just gotta do some digging. you can also look at the most recently uploaded stuff although theres a lot of babys first map stuff that gets constantly uploaded, sometimes those are fun to look at though.
>We could've had a Source 2 SDK,>Garry stepped in and oversold himself, promising Valve that he'd personally behead Roblox and ensure Steam's dynasty for decades to come.>Valve agrees, doesn't even begin working on a Source 2 SDK.>Garry wastes 10 years, releases this.We'll literally never get an SDK now, thanks Garry!
>>737850405enjoy losing money garry neuman you rat fuck nigger
>>737851287Literally because groomers/grifters know it is the most popular mode and so can groom and make the most money off dumbass kids, simple as
>>737850405lmfao go fuck yourself garry4k players soon to be 0 playersif only rust would be 0 players
>>737885879how does it feel paying shills or running bots to say omg youre a poor 3rd worlderwhile literally nobody is buying your crappy ass games hardware and slop ?enjoy losing trillions kikesim going to curse you to lose even morenobody in the new world order and i mean nobodywill have a cent left
>>737893660He's always been a hack, people should have seen this coming
There is just no content. Sandbox is severely barebones right now but I can see the potential.
>>737893810>oh my soijak look at that dip of players in the middle of the night when people go to sleepBAN steam chart postersActually dumber than the people trying to promote this shitheap of a game.
so it's a lackluster experience for users and the devs (appear) to be not so woved either.maybe it was an unrealistic expectation but the way this was hyped up as a basket of source 2 games i expected at least something on par with halo combat evolved from over 2 decades ago to be available.
>>737894171its 1pm est and it already has lost half the players it had yesterday, the trendline is flattening. holy flop
>>737894350shitty ass roller coaster lmao
>>737893954No retard. People have been """making games"""" in sandbox for fucking years and there is not a single good one, its not barebones, its shit.
>>737893954the current helping of games in sandbox is what 5 years of indie devs having early access got us.
>>737850405for this to actually spawn anything of value there would have to be some sort of moderation in place to disincentivize games which sole purpose is to take advantage off of the current system of >gametime = $this whole thing is such a dumpster fire lmao. valve should also make them remove any mention of the Source 2 engine as it's false advertising
>>737894430>>737894474>INDIE DEVS SUCK BIG BUTT AND THAT'S WHY GARRY (a completely separate entity) IS A BAD PERSON OR SOMETHINGIf I was Garry I'd have a huge headache from dealing with numbskulls like you daily.
>>737861938how does one become a roblox?
Feels bad. I kind of wanted a neat game to make cool maps in. I actually like creative games where the point is to make your own stuff, but they almost never do well, and I'm not touching Roblox with a 10 foot pole.Oh well. Back to making my megadungeon in Grimrock 2
>>737894871Yes all indie devs can go fuck themselves and so can g*rry
to be fair, how are indie devs supposed to make and release good source 2 games if even valve can't make singleplayer source 2 games?
>>737894952its how im feeling, garrysmod 2 with the csgo branch of hammer 2 wouldve been fantastic and instead garry gives us this shit. like what a fucking moron, he doesnt seem to even understand why people liked gmod and how it helped people get into stuff like modding or making their own games in the first place. i'd kill to be able to use hammer 2 to make gmod maps but instead i get to use unity but shittier
Get fucked Garry
>>737850405It's a shitty scam trash "engine" that works worse than Godot. Basically Roblox but with pseudo Unity UI, shitty optimization (trailer has a moment where it goes lower than 30fps lmao) and shittier paid cosmetics because it's just a push for Garry to make fast cashThe whole "true legacy of G-Mod and Source 2" is a fucking joke. There is no sandbox here nor any classic G-Mod gamemodes so if you just like dicking around or playing TTT or PH tough shit buddy. The engine is BARELY Source 2, it's been so modded it only allows for C# and not C++ or LUA at all, lacks classic Source lighting or gravity or any of that, it's all been replaced by shitty Unity clone tech which makes you wonder what the point of using Source 2 was in the first place. Most "games" are genuine AIslop filled with troons, NFT scammers and preddit/discord tier mods that go on worse power trips than anything I've ever seen in G-Mod. You can't import Source 1 models. Oh and you still need to pay the $100 if you want the mod to go to Steam despite the description claiming it's "free" (tbf good because it would just fill Steam with shit AI games, more than they exist). Also 99% of players are bots, the game is fucking deader than Dead Rising 4Yeah it's pretty much a total scam, let's hope they don't start fucking up G-Mod>>737850616Based except Mike is a total faggotJoel is still quite based and making internet memes, Jerma is the same but his franchise is all faggots, Vinny is still good though, I'd hate for him to retire with the new Tomodachi series and modern corruptions being as complex and funny as they areHonestly Vinny is probably better than Jerma because his fanbase covers him a lot whereas Jerma is mostly him and his fanbase are just the same three retarded memes of psycho Jerma, Amogus Guy and Mr Greene or whatever
>>737883523Too busy making a BYOND SS13 anime server to make JBMod2, sorry!
why is everyone talking about twitch streamers in a thread about s&box?
i really dont get the historical revisionism going on by the s&box defenders, everyone i know had a blast with gmod 10 right out of the gate when it released on steam in 2007, its like these zoomers dont know that source modding had already been going on for years at that point.
>>737895973It's megacopium from people that didn't even play Gmod until v13Just barebones Source with HL2 ragdolls and PMs and maps is pure fun because Valve made a genuinely amazing game and fucking around even in base HL2 with cheats or in deathmatch is loads of funMeanwhile this unity wannabe has zero sovl and zero entertainment value
>>737883790lmao based
>>737863715You will NEVER guess what they are using to make piracy tools with now
>>737850628With posts like these I have to wonder, what kind of person is going to bat for AI? Like, what does an image of you and your life look like, where you get defensive about how AI will "be the future"? Just paid, literal shills?Even the techbros, what fucking coder is excited about a program that codes for them? Low-T python coders? Web devs? No fucker who went neck-deep in wizardom to learn C is looking for an excuse to code less.
>>737850728>apparently they were expecting mostly negativeHow the fuck do you even earnestly move forward with a project if this is your best case scenario? Why? Are they that desperate to replace gmod?
>>737896364not just the piracy tools, but even the viruses people bake into pirated releases of games are also AI madesource: F95's "recent malware infected games thread"
>>737858910except 40 winks isn't bad.
>>737892210Works so far, yeah. No issues that I've noticed.
>steam release>it's software>open /v/>it's just the exorcism of tom dubois>there's just nothing but hatred and contempt>they can't even read
>>737896885YesGarry genuinely wants to be a big dude in the gaming industry because it has a lot of cash involved. He already was a scummy egotistical cunt back in the GMod days (arguing against royalties and even making an achievement for having the privilege to meet his random ass in a server) but this is just his ego to a new level, he wants to be a big cat in the Steam gaming production cycle with a shitty Roblox copycat and knows he cannot let his rep be affected by ol' GMod with those videos of the TF2 characters saying le rassissm or porn videosBut overall it's more cope than desperation, kinda like the cope surrounding Trooncord's downfall
>>737850728WHY even release it now and not further improve on it?
>>737885879>YOU DON'T WANT TO EAT LITERAL SHIT! YOU'RE POOR!whatever you say garry LOL have fun with your stillborn platform
they posted a release post mortemhttps://steamcommunity.com/games/590830/announcements/detail/678497276169027931?snr=2___
>>737897413>release now>WHAT IS THIS SHIT>no release date>NEVER EVERIt's lose-lose. The things here don't want a solution - just a target to smash. oldfags are gone, the newfags have built-in dopamine problems and there's nothing left of value.
>>737897517KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK>NOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY AI BAD, CLEARLY SOMEBODY MADE LE GAMES WITH SUPER DUPER PASSION, WE AREN'T ANTI AI YOU HECKIN' BIGOTS>NOOOO PERFORMANCE IS TOTALLY NORMAL CAUSE IT'S A NEW ENGINE EVEN THOUGH HLA COULD RUN ON A 1060 AT BETTER FRAMERATE THAN US WITH WORSE GRAPHICS, BUT LOOK AT LE COOL CHART THAT MEANS NOTHING ANDWE RENDER EACH FRAME GUYYSSS!!!!>NOOOOO DON'T THINK OF US LIKE GARRY'S MOD EVEN THOUGH WE PUT OURSELVES AS GMOD'S SUCCESSOR IN THE MARKETING>(but hey, thanks for all the money you spent on our shitty broken game and the forced microtransactions, we'll TOTALLY give it to le community through the """play fund""" and not hoard the cash ourselves so Garry can buy three more yachts)For fuck's sake what a buncha fucking scumbags
>>737897615he also said he'd apparently make it free 2 years later which is even more baffling to release it PAID in its current state
>>737897865its baffling to simply admit that he's gonna do it
These positive reviews are embarrasing.
>>737897865It makes perfect sense.In 2026, a competent dev team working on toolkit with a distribution space wants to weed out the inbreds who come running for release to catch a whiff of relevancy to the new hip thing.Once the things have left and spent their money; all that remains is human.
>>737896690hate artists, simple as
>>737898049the dev tools as they are now apparently aren't even that good so why would you pay and stress yourself to a beta test just for the "potential" that it "MIGHT" improve in the future?Everything about this just sucks because I initially had high hopes for this
>>737897517>ai generated cope post screaming "I DIDN'T LOSE, I DIDN'T LOSE, I DIDN'T LOSE" as the player number shrinksLOL?
>>737898002>fortnite
Someone make a new thread and continue shitting on this god awful game
>>737898217>why would you pay and stress yourself to a beta
>>737898415there's two s&box thread up, pick your poison
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