Sony lost over 700 million dollars on this game. Thoughts?
>THIS GAME IS DOA>THIS GAME IS SHUTTING DOWN IN TWO WEEKS >ONE MORE MONTH THEN THE LAYOFFS START >......GIVE IT ANOTHER YEAR TASSI-SAMA SAID ITS HAPPENING
>>738584364>Marathon was a succe...ack!
>>738584713Thank you Tassi-sama. Maybe the energy of your immense butthurt will bring destiny 2 back
>>738584295Why would you waste matter to print tiddies
>>738584295They didn't lose that money on the game specifically, but on their purchase of Bungie.
>>738584295They lost 3.6 Billion just buying Bungie thinking that they were gonna "Get back at Microsoft"
>>738584295Why not 700 billion? Money isn't real
>>738584806Kek
>>738584295This is all fortnite's faulteveryone wants to be the next giga lifeservice game
>>738584364Meanwhile AAAA game with billion budget got 3-rd year support. Chuds so lost.
I like it, the lost money and drama makes it more of a luxurious experience imo
>>738584295Wish they lost more
>>738584295more like 3.5 billion if you count their acquisition (and they do)
>>738584295That's no good. I like Marathon a lot, but season 2 really needs to bring the players back, or the game is doomed.
>>738584295>Sony lost over 700 million dollars on this gameSo far!
>>738586664They lost me after the knife nerf. That shit was perfect as it was. If you allow yourself to be ganked then that's a you-position problem and should not have the ability to tank so many jabs
>>738586749Technically, they lost that money when they bought Bungie. They just realize/admit it only now.
Nah. Sony BLAMES 700 million loss on it. In really Snoy is losing money because they are niggers.
>>738584295I'm too much of a pussy to use my Cryo kit because I'm not sweaty enough to ask to join a premade and randoms are retarded.
>>738584295It's crazy it outsold metroid prime 4
>>738588957Not even close
>>738584364>t.
>>738584295It's an amazing game that sadly is too difficult for the scrubs and zoomers and redditors of today
>>738584295The women don't look this hit inside that trash game otherwise wouldn't have bombed this hard
>>738589196It's not amazing; it just appeals to you directly, you psycho.
>>738584295Its a horrible game that is sadly too ugly for the chuds and white men and aryans of today
>>738589196They're making the game braindead with every patch, yet people still aren't showing up.Starting to think that maybe the game's just shit.
>>738589168Thats why its so crazy, how big a loss do you think prime 4 was? 4 reboots, 8 years, and it didn't even break a mil. She didn't buy enough to save the game...
>>738589235Sorry you got filteredBetter luck in the next life
>>738589193I said that.
>>738589374So now that the dust has settled where is the comeback?
>>738588957You weren't supposed to say that
>>738584295they are determined and committed to lose more to own the chuds
>>738589290Why is it horrible?
>>738584295ive lost over 700 million sperms to this cyberslut. thoughts?
>>738589973>horrible Bad visuals ugly art ugly characters recycled gunplay live service fart music
>>738590170>"Bad visuals ugly art">Posts an absolutely beautiful screenshot
>>738590143You think the arm cannon is OP
>>738590221Wow the sky box is so good xister too bad the interiors and buildings look absolutely retarded
>>738590341The only thing that looks bad in that screenshot is the twinscope optic.
So how many players did it lose this week?
>>738590936Exactly 1 week ago, Marathon had 1000 more players than right now.
>>738590857If you have shit tastes i guessI wouldnt really expect much from marathon players though so im not surprised
>>738590341imagine failing at posting a bad screenshot
>>738591294Refer to >>738591213
>>738591362I think that you are the one with shit taste, actually.
>>738591468Thanks for proving my point with another shitty imageDestiny 1 won btw
>>738590341>>738591468Only imagine having a nice skybox which completely unseen because of anti-soul gas.
>>738591667The amount of fog varies depending on map and weather.
>>738591771Proof?
>>738584364It’s probably a bigger drain than Destiny is which is saying something
is this piece of shit going f2p soon or what? they didnt put it on linux so im not buying
>>738592092retard!
>>738592092I personally don't have footage of it to compare, but it's just something you notice while playing the game. The weather is most noticeable on Dire Marsh. After that time my team almost got sniped at West Gate from the roof of Maintenance, I wish there was a bit more fog on average.
>>738584295loil
Its a shame that Activision was the only development team competent in actual work for videogamesRIP vicarios visions and highmoon you will be missed
I think the notable apologist anon in these threads who would always post images of Vandal must have killed himself after the Sony financials came out
I kinda hope they had less teams per map
Keeeek
>>738584295>Sony lost over 700 million dollars on this gameno they didn't
>>738595381perturbed pedro is on the marathon hate train?uhhh based spic?
>>738584295So we're closing in on $4 Billion Sony wasted on this shit including the company?
>>738595494Enraged Enrique is on a comeback?
>>738595381>SHUT THE FUCK UP CHUD STOP TALKING ABOUT MARATHON!!!!!He really is the gift the keeps on giving.
imagine the alternative reality we would be in if Destiny 1 had been a PC game
/ourguy/ has been obliterating maratroons all week
>>738595992>you need a wake up call>since when were games about how much money they makeMarakeks are so raped they trying to cope with the fact Marathon was a Maraflop.
>>738595461you should contact sony and tell them the good news.
>>738584295>thoughts?Don't care, just post more Vandal.
>>738584364yes you stupid fucking nigger, compare to destiny 2 at its worst season pre renegades/marathon release, saying they fucked up its an understatement
>>738595381>>738595892>>738595992is this the first game they've genuinely enjoyed that is going to be taken from them and that's why they're melting so much harder than usual? they usually just say X game is great but fuck the chuds and then move on. with this one they're actively attacking anyone who spreads negative information for the game and trying to bully them into hiding the truth about the games performance.
I still haven't done a single Durandal quest. That shit's impossible without Discord.
>>738584295Nice thread Woody, not gonna unfuck your game as its still got George Droyd in it.
>>738584295>Thoughts?The guy that they stole art assets from must be laughing his ass off.
HAHAHAHAHAH
>>738595992>so many people look up to you, paul; someone might actually see this and decide not to buy the game>you're a bad person for not lying to them when it suits the narrative
>>738597373Doesn't that just end up cannibalizing the playerbase? The poopsockers just keep shitting on everyone that isn't poopsocking, which results in the latter leaving until there is no one left to shit on.
>>738590170like it or not, at least it looks recognizable compared to your average grey-brown slop in almost every other FPS
>>738597373woo! look at the people that leave the game running while they wage or sleep!this will surely help us!
>>738598992600 gamers are having a blast supporting a game they love while you're an incel chud hating on a small indie company that is pursuing a passion project?
>>738598992Aiieeeee delete this!
>>738598992We are BLASTING
This game needs some more hot bitches and a campaign.
>>738598426Recognizable? Yeah Recognizably shitBrown green light blue and gray is just the superior colour pallet meanwhile clown vomit is just distasteful.
>>738599398Surely next season will have some cute new runner like Vandal and thief, and not some baboon like triage right?
>>738600501>Next seasonSony already withdrew their funding.
>>738600897and this is before they lost 85% of the playerbase so next quarter bungie will be absolutely crucified
They killed Destiny for that shit gameso im glad it flopped,
>>738600897>Post: Sony already withdrew their funding.>Image: Sony will continue supporting MarathonDissonance.
>>738599398>campaignWon't happen. The story you get from contracts and valuables is all that will ever be there. At best, a few years down the line, there will be a Marathon 1 remake.
>>738601425Hi, Paul.
>>738601425HOLY KINO
>>738589196I'm a zoomer and I played the original trilogy. No interest in this one because it's not Marathon.
Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'then dead in week 1then dead in week 2then dead in week 3then dead in week 4then dead in month 2then after sony earningsThere's people in this thread now talking about sony investor calls and shit because beleive it or not this was never another concord situation and they are having to rely on speculation about what a hypothetical sony investor might think at this stage.Not to mention, if player numbers get so dire, it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.
>>738601543Image says Sony is gonna keep it in a zombie state for awhile until the final judgement.
>>738584295>they are losing even more not axing it as we speak>to "own the chuds"
>>738599949I like it. Maybe art is subjective or something>Brown green light blue and gray is just the superior colour palletUncreative colors for an uncreative mind
>>738601682I can't see that happening. And I'm glad.
>>738602868is that a win? anthem servers closed last year and it was still an abysmal failure
>>738596668Yeah
>>738603101>I like itYes we know yall bungshills like anything bungie puts outContinue eating your """creative"""" rushed asset slop and make sure to buy the lux
>>738597373>game has been out for over 2 months>50 playtime hours is considered a hardcore ride or die fanam I the only one who thinks that's a fairly small amount of playtime for the unending shilling and people claiming they've been having a blast non-stop since launch? maybe I'm just in the minority because I'm addicted to vidya but I've put more than 50+ hours into games I didn't even really like that much within their first couple weeks of launch.
>>738584295The worst part about that character is it shows they knew how to make their aesthetic appealing, but intentionally made every other character look retarded.
>>738603627This is my first bungie game but ok, keep coping
>>738602880Not really. All of the season 2 content has most likely been ready before release.
>>738591468This is such a dogshit looking game, jesus christ. It has this constant washed out filter despite trying so hard to go for a sleek colorful look at the same time. It's easily one of the ugliest games I've seen in recent years. Even trash like Dragon Age Veilguard at least had crisp visuals.
>>738603063If they really are banking on D3 to recoup their losses then yeah, they have to keep it on life support for at least a year so the studio doesn't lose credibility to the public. Don't get me wrong, I think the absolute state of marathon is enough to make them lose what little credibility they had, but if I were a sony exec that's what I'd be thinking.
>>738603842>first bungie gameSpeaks loud numbers why you have such shit taste tbqh
>>738601543out of curiosity, if this game does get shut down before the end of the year how will you react? how do you look at the player numbers and all the articles showing the game has objectively lost a shit ton of money and convince yourself that Sony will definitely continue to give full support despite the steam player count being below 15k meaning with consoles they probably have around 25k total players at peak hours. how do you think Bungie will be able to make almost a billion dollars of revenue out of that small a base while simultaneously maintaining their operating costs? I'm not trying to shitpost or mock you, I'm genuinely curious how the true fans feel about the future of the game and where they think it will be a year from now.
>marathon>concordif sony doesn't pull themselves together they will definitely go bankrupt or at least abandon sony playstationthey even abandoned a passion project named "pragmata" the original intention. making capcom reconsider game's artistic intention. capcom started reworking the game in 2021, making it multplat. at least pragmata was saved but personally i wanted a serious dark theme. hecking sony. and no im not a schizo it's all there.
>>738604146Sorry in case I triggered some trauma, did you swallow too much shit in the Destiny days?
>>738604082>D3after the dumpster fire that was D1 and then Bungie going full pants on head retarded with D2 and alienating even their most hardcore fan who the fuck would be excited for a third destiny game?
>>738603842This taste... is of a liar!
>>738604227You are playing recycled destiny 2 lol
>>738603842Your first Bungie game and you played the worst one
>>738604258Beats me, but I know better than to underestimate the stupidity of bungie drones
>>738590221The art style is genuinely abhorring. Even the loading screens look disgusting.
>>738590170>>738591468You can't mix this neon plastic aesthetic with generic landscape. They would have been far, far better off by creating an artificial landscape.
>>738604495that's kind of my point though because the drones either aren't supporting marathon or they have shrunk down to such an insignificant number that they can't influence anything when it comes to sales and user count.
BUY THE MARATHONS BLOODY BITCH BASTARDS
>>738604149I'm not reading that shit, all this noise around the game is bullshit. We will draw conclusions at the end of the year, wethet the game end up doing well or not. In the meantime you're never getting Destiny 3 and Bungie will keep focusing ressources on Marathon, Paul Prozac Tassi can keep shitting article after article, he is never getting a decent destiny expansion ever again and I genuinely find joy in that
>thinking people want destiny 3Delusional maratranny
>>738604149>if this game does get shut down before the end of the year how will you react?I'd find this very unfortunate.>how do you look at the player numbers and all the articles showing the game has objectively lost a shit ton of money and convince yourself that Sony will definitely continue to give full supportThe main difference between Concord and Marathon is that there is a very non-negligible amount of people out there who care about Marathon. The gameplay inside the matches is great, most problems lie outside of them. I don't think that Marathon's issues are inherent and unfixable. Now, whether Bungie has it in them to fix these issues or not is a different matter. I reserve my judgement until season 2 begins, then I will know whether the game is doomed or not.>how do you think Bungie will be able to make almost a billion dollars of revenue out of that small a base while simultaneously maintaining their operating costs?Almost a billion? Are you adding the development cost and Bungie impairment loss? Anyway, idk, maybe they can if Marathon survives to season 4.
>>738604651I don't think he does, but it's clear that he is very, very emotional about Destiny 2 and Bungie.
>>738605435cool, I'll return the favor and not read any of that shit. good luck with your transition or whatever you are rambling about since you clearly don't want to discuss the thread topic.
>>738597373I mean… he aint wrong, im one of those who likes the game, and i got over 300hrs+
Bungie is asking players if they want more cosmetics.>>>/vg/566527532>>>/vg/566527748
>>738605695He cannot clearly say it but of course he wants marathon to die just to prove his point. He clearly looks depressed and bitter, he knows that he will probably never get good new destiny content in its lifetime and wants everyone to be as miserable as him
>>738584927The collapse of Destiny 2 also deserves some credit for the valuation. But Marathon deserves a big chunk here.
>t. Travis north
Would marathon have been a success if it was anything but a extraction shooter
>>738586503Well, there's no way in hell the current MTX is carrying the load of something like 400 bungie developers, so you're getting what you want every month. >>738586812The nerfs after that have only made shit worse. They are catering to the most successful streamers, the few they have left with gold shields and biotoxic disenjectors.
>>738606036If it was anything but a live service game maybe but I dont really see anything from it that would put it infront of other games. Game just looks too ugly to takeoff
>>738589193Ironically enough, that streamer seems to have quit entirely a month ago.
>>738584295Could be worse for sony, they could be the xbox division right now.
>>738605435>all this noise around the game is bullshit.i think an 90% player drop in 2 months is not bullshit but very much factual
>>738584364well they can't do that NOW because so many people predicted it, so they'll keep sinking money into it for a little longer before quietly killing it in like a year
>>738584364Sunken Cost fallacy
>>738589323MP4's loss is somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 million USD. about 100 million budget. But lets keep this in perspective. Marathon is the undisputed flop of the fucking year, and it's unlikely to be dethroned. It lost more than MP4 and Highguard's entire budget, and can probably fit POP reboot's budget in as well at a quarter billion dollars estimated losses, and it's losing more every month.>>738588957Really? I have MP4 at around 1.8 million, and Marathon under 1.5. MP4 of course has been out longer, and Marathon is multiplat.
>>738606286It is a seasonal extraction shooters and a sharp player drop as the season goes is to be expected. There's no point drawing conclusion before the game goes through at least a few seasonal wipes
>>738592835Hard to say. The problem is MTX sales on the game are terrible, and it's not clear if they can fix it in a way that F2P would work. There's also the question of what Sony's strategy is as a whole. Really, they just should switch to another game entirely. Even when the game was f2p in beta it was losing players.
Sony didn't lose shit, Sony assessed they overpaid Activision 700 million during the acquisition that was mainly destiny 2. destiny 2 turned out to be worth 700 million less than what they anticipated.
>>738606639>Sony didn't lose shitthey got around 50 million in sales but the game cost them 300 million plusthey lost a lot of shit
>>738606639how many layers of copium are you on runner?
>>738606507It's not a sharp drop, though. Marathon's CCU peaked on day 1 and very consistently decreased since then. Very consistently, actually. I've never seen a CCU graph so smooth.
>>738606639LMAO you're embarrassing
>>738596668I doubt it. I think they're from the school of toxic positivity that was told that everything is great and it's just some negative chuds fault that the games are failing.
>>738606507>It is a seasonal extraction shooters and a sharp player drop as the season goes is to be expectedThis is cope. Dark and Darker never dropped all of its players in the first two months. Tarkov never did and it now has more players than Marathon months later.
>>738598198Marty's original plan actually had something for the poopsockers to do OTHER than shit on the noobs. Like recruit them for bigger missions like a space marine with a bunch of IG. Of course Marty was too chudly, so they hat to fire him.>>738599398ANY hot bitches, that can't be confused for an estradoled up male would be a plus.
>>738603176There's at least 3 posts. They're trying to defuse the idea that chuds might be on to something when they say they hate a game. The fact that it's the biggest bomb of the year and losing money every month instead of shutting down isn't something they'll address. And this is a way, way bigger failure than anthem. Anthem had at least high initial sales. This game needed to be a top 5 game of the year, and leading the charts for months just to break even.
>>738607010Marathon isn't even in the top 10 of the year and we're 4 months in kek
>>738606676the game grossed 55 million dollars during opening week, selling 1.2 million copies. those 55 million are estimated on sales alone, not counting microtransations or season passes, i myself spent $400 in lux currency so far. by the numbers of reviews on steam (49K so far and growing, more than pragmata at 39K) it is safe to assume the game is be between 2.5 and 3 million copies. the game safely grossed over 100 million during season 1. it will become profitable mid-season 2 to 3 and sony knows it.
>>738603636You are correct, because the shilling is artificial. Bungie hired a "narrative management" agency, which runs the sub r/s. It's why there's so little OC, and such high numbers of incredibly positive reviews that aren't playing the game at all.But to be fair, there are some serious fans of the shit. Unfortunately for Bungie though. They'll have to piss those existing fans off if they want to survive here, because any Marathon that is a financial success will look very little like the current game.
>>738602868>Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'Don't forget about absolute Ubisoft win >>738586006 against chuds with third year of support. This game is so perfectly successful so it's didn't even go on ftp model.
>>738607159>1.2m copies in opening week Nope, it took a month to do that >by the numbers of reviews on steam (49K so far and growing, more than pragmata at 39K) it is safe to assume the game is be between 2.5 and 3 million copiesBungie specifically requested to their 400k member discord to leave reviews, so the number is obviously inflated >the game safely grossed over 100 million during season 1. it will become profitable mid-season 2 to 3 and sony knows it.You're just making shit up bro lmao
>>738584295post glitch lewds
It's good to see so many Sony shareholders on a video games board
>>738606684the game comfortably grossed over $ 100 million during season 1.
>>738607341Source?
>>738607406My dad works at bungie and told me
>>738606036Hard to say. Marty's vision I thought was great, but could they build that? And of course he had to go for his chudly ways. Their experiment with a BR mode shows that it probably would have been better. But the Warthog in the room is that Bungie is bloated, slow and arrogant. It is incredibly hard to do anything to justifiy 300 million dollars of budget.
>>738584295Uh oh, tranny janny won't like this one!Prepare to get 404'd, OP!
>>738607159lmao the report confirms the game sold around that much in the month, not the opening week. the reviews are not reliable in this case because of how badly sony devalued bungie and tassi reports the shrinking player loss and disappointing sales through his sources at bungie, which is reflected in the sony investor report. they hope it will become profitable but thats copium, much like you are doing now because they have 500 devs working on this full time to a player base of at most 200k DAU.
This guy has to be baiting. There's no fucking way he spent $400 on an ingame currency for this slop
>>738607406My trans insider from Bungie told me so. Steam is also multiplying the playercount by 0.1 because some chuds infiltrated valve
>>738584364Honestly,I hope they keep supporting it at this rate,it’s hilarious watching you AGP nigger-kike tranny jeets shill for the biggest money sink in history. A more massive money loss for Sony than concord. Not even fucking FILMS lose as much cash as this cow. Bungie may genuinely collapse in time. This is a LEGENDARY blunder of money.
>>738584295honestly? they haven't done enough. You just can't make the artstyle main focus and then not push it to be front and center of a gameplay.Buy that would probably require actual work, assets that aren't made by indians and some innovation in actual gameplay.This is a product where doing stuff in typical AAA style: playing it safe and listening to dumb corpos hurt the bottom line in a major way. If it had a smaller budget the game would ironically be much better.For what it's worth I actually enjoy the designs, but when actual gameplay is just generic shooting in generic sci fi city I'm just going to play something else.
lmao
>>738606286>>738606507We already know reasonable MTX ranges from other games. The current player base can't support development. The population was too small week 1. Marathon needs to explosively gain players, but everyone's seen it, and passed or quit already. Even if people come back for future seasons, they're still negative every month.
>>738607605OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN
>>738607159>$400 in lux currency so far.Can we see your shit? I'm curious to see what 400 dollars gets you in this game.
>>738607292the data that estimated the 1.2 million figure (later confirmed by paul tassi bungie sources) are from the the launch window, aka the first two weeks. we had seven weeks of sales on top of that since them and the reviews on steam go up in number consistently daily. if 1.2 million = 55 million in sales 2-3 million means something between 110-165 million in sales (again, no microtransactions). 100 million is conservative. the game will become profitable by season 3.
>>738605916I just read an article on my way home stating that the $765 million loss is actually the devaluation of Bungie since Sony purchased it. So Bungie was $3.6 million then; now it's worth $2.8 billion.
>>738607482I mean I wouldnt be surprised anon the bungshills are insane when it comes to bungie games
>>738607651Pretty much everybody who’s playing is gonna be forking out at least $20 quarterly for the battle pass.
>>738607605>post on the #1 cancel culture message board>astounded someone tried to cancel himWhat did he expect? He's probably the ten thousandth person who's had to explain what resetera is to a board meeting.
>>738607749kek you think that if marathon sold 2 million copies they wouldnt have annoucned that? they annoucned the 400k discord members but they wouldnt announce over 2 million copies sold? lmao. youre delusional.
>738607749>Already going from a week to 2 weeks Yeah this guy is baiting lol. It was a month btw
>>738589193>8k more since views 2 months later
>>738607406the game sold 1.2 million copies on the first week and we had seven weeks of sales on top of it since then. the game is north of 2 million copies sold hence over 100 million grossed in sales. all they have to do to sell more is do more seasons, the core is sticky and the floor is holding and sony knows it.
>>738607757Correct. But they also stated that they expect no further devaluation, and their marathon projections were based on March 31, when it still had 40 thousand players, and also would assume destiny 2 doesn't drop in revenue further. I think their valuation of Bungie is still idiotic, but they're breaking it up to try not to spook investors. That 765 was 200 at first, where they said they expected no further devaluation, and this one is a 565, and expecting no further devaluation.What's less clear is what the fuck Sony and Bungie do next. Tassi's pretty exhaustively covered the possibiliities in another article. Clearly anyone at bungie that doesn't have their resume ready is an idiot.
>LEGO aesthetic>pvpvekek
The funniest part of this dudes made up sales statistics is that he thinks sales over time are consistent, whereas the vast majority of games sell over half of their copies in the first couple weeks then sharply drop off
The game has steady been losing players. Even top shill Shroud who says this game is doing something no other extraction shooter is doing dropped this turd within 2 weeks. Game is not making any money and performed so badly they devalued Bungie by about 500 million dollars in the first month of release. This drastic drop off of players in April is probably worth another 500 million dollars devaluation.
>>738607471the firm that came up with the figure, backed by tassi, backed by his sources are from the opening two weeks of sales. they published it a month after release by the data they used are from the first two weeks. the game sold 1.2 million in 14 days on sale.
>>738607832Really? No other game has that level of buy in. What makes you think this one is different? But calculate it out. How many devs does that fund for a season? The math is impossible for bungie. The game is, at least financially turbofucked.
>>738607757>$3.6 billion>$2.8 billionDon't forget that $1.2 billion out of those were bonuses for employees
daily marathon seethe thread
>>738608196marathon is selling around 200 copies daily on steam alone, watch the number of reviews go up daily by an order of 150 or more. on late season. new seasons will only see inclines. the game is on track to be profitable and sony leadership words reflect just that.
>>738608436daily maratroons cope thread you mean
>>738608460How many players do you expect at the start of the season 2?
>>738608460>over 400 devs working on the game for minimum 100k >to 20k players at the most across all platforms>profitablekek
>>738608198you must be new to extraction shooters. the game goes down in players as the season wipe comes closer bc what is the point in playing if you will see all your gear wiped in 2 weeks. the players return after wipe where ppl can enjoy a clean slate. it happens with tarkov, it happens showdow, marathon will go back to 50-60k when season 2 drops
>>738608029>the game is north of 2 million copies sold hence over 100 million grossed in sales.no it didnt. nobody is reporting that. bungie would be the first to let us know if they sold 2 million copies.
Okay, let's be honest here. Why did it flop so hard?
How many players are gonna return for season 2?
>>738608691the seasonal booms and micro transactions will make it profitable and sony attitude towards the game reflects it
>>738608809Shit art, music, visuals recycled gameplay, live service, horrible reputation, lack of variety, bungie jank
>>738608778pragmata is north of 2 million copies sold and it has less reviwes on steam. the game sold 2 million+. cope.
I can tell you why this game will not shut down soon. Do you remember that funny huge amount of money Sony threw into Bungie? Haha Sony burned 3.6 billions for nothing! But you should look closer at what this money was spent on. As you can see 1.2 billions was spent on Employee Retention Program. Most of this money is already spent on troons who made Marathon. There was a few lay offs to safe some of these money. So to this point they still has a few hundred millions left for keep paying troon developers for keep supproting the game a bit longer. So all their 800 troon employees could do nothing... at least a few more month, maybe half a year. That's why they won't shut down soon.
>>738608460This, a lot of people who were curious about Marathon initially were dissuaded by the online discourse. Now that Sony officially came out and cleared the air, the game will only continue to grow now. This game is huge on console now thanks to cheaters ruining the PC matchmaking.
>>73860881850-60k peak concurrent for the first week if they don't do a free weekend for it. free weekend = 90k+
>>738608758Tarkov has most players. Hunt never lost 90% of its players after 1.0. Dark and Darker never lost 90% of its players on launch. Arc never lost 90% of its players after 2 months. Delta Force didnt. ABI didnt. Only flops like Marathon lose 90% of its players after only 2 months into release.
>>738601543>"we downwardly revised our business plan and impaired the full amount of the fixed assetsThat means they cut how much money they're going to give to Bungie, retard.
>>738584295$700,000,000 + $3,600,000,000 down the FUCKING hole.
>>738609054>Now that Sony officially came out and cleared the air,Sony cleared the air about how they are gonna lay off a bunch of Bungie staff
>>738608972Pragmata immediately told the world they sold 2 million. Marathon didn't but they told the world about 400k discord users.They didn't sell 2 million copies.
>>738609247yes, from destiny 2. marathon is the future.
>>738609278no, 2 million is conservative, id say they're close to 3. and bungie will play the underdog for as long as they can
>>738584295>sony sacrifices $700m>I get more pictures of robot girlsA good trade. Do it again please
>>738609438okay, 'next gen gamer'
>>738609601sony didn't lose a cent. they evaluated they overpaid for bungie.
>>738609438youre coping about as bad as sony here
Have you guys been sending death threats ot bungie so marathon doesnt get a pve mode? I have
>>738609696>if i just move the numbers around it's not a write-off it's impairment lossstupid fucking golem
>>738609787Sony is a world tech leader. they know exactly what is on track to make money based on their data sets. marathon sold a minimum of 2 million copies during season 1 and grossed a minimum of 110 million dollars in sales on a budget of 200 million. it will become profitable by season 3. destiny 2 was not mentioned.
>>738609696>sony didn't lose a centThat's true! They lost not one cent, but closer to 360 billion cents when they acquired Bungie in the first place.
>>738610013good work
>>738610020So we went from biggest game ever on release to>Don't worry they maybe will make their money back by season 3!Be honest, this was you wasn't it?
>>738610059they paid 3.6 billion and now they're saying they should have paid 3.1 billion. sony is a 122 billion company.
>>738607749Holy fucking delusions, batman.
>>738610020https://xcancel.com/jingelhymer/status/2053183787391991994#m?!
>>7386103022.9b* they already had a 200mil loss last quarter. And it will likely keep going down. They overpaid by almost a billion dollars alreay.
>Loses 85% of players in 2 months >This is good actually What levels of cope are we on
>>738608903>Shit musichttps://youtu.be/-wQfCuKxC5c
>>738611032>inb4 thats just what extraction shooters do
>>738609601I'm a big fan of the Traxus skin for Vandal.
>>738611032They keep kicking the numbers down every time a metric fails. Concurrent peak numbers at 88k, doesn't count. Sale metrics never hit, just never announce sales and they dont exist. they focus on the 82 metacritic score, the 90% steam rating, the 600k discord members.
>lost all my shit in cryo againgreat game innit
>>738611704Cryo is for clearing out your vault.
>>738611704You're going to lose literally everything in a month
>>738611140>20 seconds in>BRAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP Thank you for proving my point
What are the chuds playing these days?
>>738611704>go on poverty run to clear out vault>clear the lobby and leave even richer>equip sweat loadout to pick fights>die immediately
>>738612489
>>738612489Im playing warframe to replace my destiny addiction
>>738612489I'm playing Marathon. Just finished Run/Hide 2/6.
>>738612489Crimson Desert.
>>738612828He said chuds not troons
>>738584295Funny how you can't post what the character actually looks like and even your cutified version is a mess.That's the main reason why it lost hundreds of millions of dollars and devalued Bungie by even more, BTW. It's repulsive. With the Bungie name, the free weekend should have had 400k peak concurrents, and meeting Sony's goal of being a top 5 selling game of 2026 should have been doable.
>>738610848>twitter troon cries about marathon againnot surprising
>>738612830>>738612883
Sony has helldivers 2, imagine if those devs recieved even a 1/10 of the money bungie recieved to make marathon.
>>738613176Troons hate crimson desert though? It's too straight and sold more than marathonCD was a humiliation ritual for them
>>738613176Crimson desert is the chud coded game thoughbeit
>>738610848they're right
>>738613275>retarded arrowhead but with even more money and arroganceThey would just nerf everything and then sell overpriced warbonds again, lol
>>738613176Saaarrr
>>738613372>theyhe
>>738613282>>738613286>korea mmoslop>chudcoded LITERAL agp roleplay go back
>>738610848>xitter tard has to repost his shit takes here to copeOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOMARATROONS, OUR RESPONSE?
>>738610848LMFAO
>>738613275sony does not own Arrowhead nor control their budget, they partner to publish helldivers 2
>>738613574>AGP roleplayBut enough about Marathon, projecting xis
>>738601904It is still retarded that they didn't launch reprised version of King's Fall with those AoT ornaments, but for some reason Crota's End got special treatment.
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE BLOODY CRIMSON DESAART
>>738613435i respect their choice of pronoun. either way they're right.
>>738584295How are they not failing they after Concord and all the live service games they canceled? Jesus, how rich they are? They could just give their money to me if they like to waste them so much...
>>738613620>they partner to publish helldivers 2Why Sony couldn't do the same with Bungie? Why waste 4 billions for nothing?
>>738613574Hi troony
>>738613761>i respect their choice of pronoun. either way they're right.And he won't fuck you for that btw, sorry to burst your bubble, gigafag
>correctly assert that Korean MMOslop is made for trannies that want to pretend to be cute girls >immediate jeet seething beginswhat did he mean by this
>>738612883I'm a man, though.
>>738613275Most of that money is being wasted on adult daycare, incompetence, and luxury decisions like paying six figures to some fag with a lisp who has no business providing input on a project who's natural customers are normal men. Handing the team a bottomless pool of money isn't a good way to run a business.Nothing else matters so long as the game industry is the kind of place where Herman Hulst doesn't get blacklisted after Concord, though.
>>738610848very nice, may we see some of these numbers?>actually by player retention we mean there's just a small number of people who keep the game running all day even during server maintenance. uh-huh.
>>738613890India consider Koreans their closest and truest allies because both have small penors and both have never touched a woman
>>738613771bc at the time of acquisition back in the early 2020s they looked at destiny 2 as a template for all their future live service endeavors and wanted to purchase the Bungie know-how. they didn't acquire it for destiny or marathon that at the time was only an incubation project, and that is why it is moronic to expect that marathon would "pay back the 3.6 billion" alone
>correctly assert that Korean MMOslop is made for trannies that want to pretend to be cute girls>implyingmaratroons are reaching projection and copium levels that shouldn't be possible
>738613890>Immediately seethe over another game because it was actually successful unlike Marathon Everytime
>>738584295Sony should've never let that idiot Jim Ryan take over back then.All those stupid ass live service games was his initiative.If they want to succeed again, they better move Sony Interactive Entertainment back to Japan and blacklist anyone from blue states (especially California).
>>738614146RAJEESH MICROGOOK DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU PIECE OF SHIT CHUD
AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>738614146>>738614169>indians immediately lose their confidence when correctly called out and stop replying all togetherLolLmao
>>738613771In summary. Sony desperately wanted live service forever game. Bungie had long service forever game in Destiny 2. Sony thinks that makes Bungie masters of the live service genre and substantially overpays for Bungie. Bungie then kills Destiny 2 in favor of Marathon because D2's 100K+ players a day just wasn't enough to be sustainable in their eyes. Bungie then convinces Sony to cancel several other live service games in development, even one close to release. Marathon flops. Sony mad.
Marathon shills might be the most mindbroken 'fanbase' I've ever seen
>>738614146bungiebros, we are hecking valid and cute!
>Games with hot women are actually tranny-coded! You don't want to be a tranny, do you?Every word that comes out of the mouth of a leftist is manipulation.That's why nobody should care about coexisting with them, BTW.
>>738611254that is the life cycle of every es except arc bc it has no season wipes
>>738614480>hot womenLolLmaosorry koreatranny you aren't fitting in
>738614350>troon is in denial phaseHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHASeethe more, your tears are delicious
>>738613890You are forced to be a bearded man in Crimson Desert. Just like (you) are forced to be one irl.
>>738614628don't worry sister, you pass, but you don't fit in
>>738610298my wish was for it to be profitable from the get go but all data points for it to become profitable by season 3 in september. the closest analog for marathon in the industry is sea of thieve; the game will keep it's audice and be profitable and keep a low profile for years to come
>maratroon is seething so much he blames unrelated mmo to cope with marathon flopLove to see it, can't wait to see the concord 3 screencaps on twitter, piratnation is eating good tonight
Why aren't they playing the game?
>>738614628>>738614723does this looks like you've gone through too many surgeries? sisters?
Still not on linux so i still do not care.
>>738614350>forum post about fanart from a literal who that got 4 replies and the same amount of likes
I can't wait for the trans Vader shell in marathon
>>738614774based
>>738614749Projecting is all you can do now that your humiliating defeat is in sightSorry discordtroon, I like good looking women, not hairy men with adam's apple in a dress and a wig
>>738614835>yeah its a tranny game but that doesn't mean it's a tranny game Lol Lmao
>>738596668>they've genuinely enjoyedthis "people" are incapable of feeling joy
>>738614884i already said you pass sister, you're so pretty x3
>>738614897I like how you skipped over the one dude not posting a MTF in forum post who happened to be the only person who didn't get likes in thread too.
>Might not pass 13k today Fucking lol
Imagine not only obsessing over a dying game but a dying trans population.You stupid niggers could smash your balls with a hammer and stop breeding and be more productive.Stupid nigger minds onky know 2 thingHaha tranny game failGoddamn youre stupid and i agree with you faggots but i dont spend all day arguing with trolls about it
>>738614797They are too busy dilating, you wouldn't understand it, chud
>>738604598This. Or at least a beach atheistic.
>>738614979Thanks, here's my Marathon cosplayI'm having a blast!
HRT will make me GOD
>tranny tranny troon shemale tranny To identify as "right wing" in 2026 is to think about shemale cock daily, that's the only requirement.On literally every other issue you can disagree with one another (are Jews the chosen people or should they be gassed, infinite immigrants for GDP and business or based ethnostate etc.)But you HAVE to think about trannies and bring them up in every conversation and blame them for everything and accuse everyone of being one. That's what everyone agrees on.
>>738615440>male handslol
>>738615276the game still online and will keep that way for years
>walls of copeYawn, I ain't reading all that, jeet
>>738615557What about a mining game where you have to pilot and date a harem of giantess mega robot waifus, and use them to defend against the hoards of bug girls trying to reclaim their land.
>>738615557Unironically, what causes this?
>chuds win again by doing nothing>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE LETTING TRANS PEOPLE LIVE RENT FREE IN YOUR HEADS DAILY, OBSESSED JEET, YOU SECRETLY WANT TO BECOME ONE OF US, STOP BRINGING ATTENTION TO OUR HUMILIATION YOU FUCKING BIGOT!!!
>>738614787>but all data points for it to become profitable by season 3 in septemberwhat data points? it performing so badly it devalued bungie by another 500 million? losing all of its players in a couple months? nobody streaming it on twitch? it not even recouping its 300+ million dollar budget and growing?
>>738615835Trans rights!
>Bungie paid $3.6b for this garbage Bigger flop than concord
Well well wellWhat do we have here
>>738616054>everything is part of muh political bullshit culture warsYou retards are getting tedious as hell.
>>738616271>everything is part of muh political bullshit culture warsWell, I don't see you posting Marathon's atrocious gameplay or character design so I assume that polshit is all what's left to discuss in these threadsIt's not like Season 2 will bring enough content to bring back the game back to 20k ccu anyways
>>738607749You're aware it costs money to make the seasonal content from 1, 2, and 3? Are you accounting for that the overhead of the office space etc... They'll have to be making 400 million for this to even be worth it and its likely not even close to that figures.
>>738614860Reminder that if you're a trans-trender who realizes that you were actually being manipulated by your teachers and that you like being a normal man who's attracted to women, the people who made that will be out for your blood.It's not about "being true to yourself". It's about a bunch of spiteful self-absorbed freaks trying to make it illegal to live in be normal and functional. That's their end game. We should never entertain the lie that they just want to be left alone again.
>>738616271When the government givescorporations tax money to produce marxist propaganda and allows corporations to write off any level of financial losses via the tax system for the specific purpose of producing marxist propaganda that no one wants because its a financial failure and the only outlets supporting the propaganda are corporate owned. Yes, its political, you fucking retard.
>>738616603>marxist propagandaYou have never read a word of Marx in your life and are most likely American. And this has nothing to do with the game.
>>738616667Marxists do nothing but lie about what they actually value and what motivates them. That includes Marx himself, who didn't pay his maid. They just want to create a paradigm where none of their life problems are their fault and they're entitled to your wealth. The war on beauty is a part of the war on gender roles and on societal expectations to work hard to be the best (something that a Marxist doesn't even register as a natural difference maker in life outcomes), and the war on gender roles is a part of the war on the family. Marxists also want you to be unhappy because happy people don't become revolutionaries, and making everything ugly helps with that agenda.
>>738584295they could have made lots of cool games with 700Mmaybe they should have made some games instead of leaving the PS5 with absolutely nothing to play
>>738616667Typed like a true marxist. >Its everyone elses fault, you just dont understand socialism comrade.
>>738616508 jesse what the fuck are you talking aboutthis is a thread about a dead extraction shooter bleeding players, not your fanfic about teachers hunting you down lmao. nobody is “making it illegal to be normal,” you’re just doomscrolling too hard.log off, get some air, and maybe worry about why bungie lit 700m on fire instead of whatever culture war boogeyman you invented tonight.
>>738616502its even worse paying for one years worth of dev salary for 500 people is about 50 million. they are losing money developing this game unless S2 and S3 bring in over 100k players
>>738584295>spend more money on use you idiot fanboys so we can burn more on woke garbage.Even when AngryJoe actually likes your game and offers constructive feedback, you still fail.
>>738617641It's a piece of propaganda from their previous game, you disingenuous fuck
I really dont feel bad for Bungie because they went out of their way to put themselves in this mess, and whats funny was how they burned their bridges with the Destiny community just before launching their next big game, like yeah I'm sure giving your last playerbase who kept your lights on in your big seattle studio a reason not to play your next game was truly the most high IQ play of all time.And the best part? Bungie are the biggest fucking faggots when it comes to shilling analytics and data as a way to pivot changes or direct their game design, and I'm certain their groups of analysts cant even find a reason for why Marathon flopped so they're probably doing the craziest mental gymnastics to blame every other factor except for themselves.
It's over
Dotting I's and crossing T's to make sure everyone is jamming and digging in marathon
>>738619312
>>738618010The main reason why I don't feel bad for Bungie or any other studio that wants to join the Concordian Fleet is that if their games were cultural phenomena and made $5B/yr forever, they'd be openly crowing about how nothing is going to be targeted at normal heterosexual white men again. They were starting to do that before Concord gave them a reality check.Why wouldn't I cheer when someone who wants to destroy me winds up being destroyed? The only reason why they're being so quiet is because they're getting stomped.
>>738589323but it did break over 1 million on switch 1 and 2 combined? it didn't break 1 million on each console separately
Chudcel here, I am feeling owned and pwned, I think Sony and Bungie should invest lots more money into Marathon to BTFO chuds like me even further.
>>738606498prime 4 sold <1m
>>738616097what devalued bungie was destiny 2, not marathon. the game sold 1.2 million in 2 weeks and since them is above 2 million by the number of steam reviews. it did not "lose all its players", it is living its extraction shooter life cycle pre wipe. it did not cost 300, but 200 million.
>>738584295>Thoughts?they deserve worse
>>l738621589This is a bot. Do not give it (you)s
>>738621589
>>738616502season 2 and 3 are complete ahead of release so they factor in the 200 million budget the game reported, season 4 is in development, according to tassi and his bungie sources. the scope of season 5 will be decided by the performance of these upcoming seasons, so brace for years of marathon
>>738622504the fact destiny 2 is not even mentioned during the call and marathon is assured to have more content in production tells it all
Will this be the first sub 10k peak monday?
>>738621589>what devalued bungie was destiny 2Destiny 2 was the sole reason why Sony got so downbad for Bungie in the first place. For alot of years, Bungie went from an Activision studio to an independant AA studio with just Destiny as their only money maker.
>>738622716no since the buffed free kits are very popular rn, i don't think it will ever go below 10k any day ever
>>738622767sony devalued Bungie's perceived value precisely because d2 is not making as much money as it used to
Why didn't they just make Destiny 3 using all the lessons and avoiding the pitfalls that made them abandon Destiny 2?
>>738623102Totally. It's the game that was put on the back burner 3 years ago and not the game that got 90% of Bungies resources and time that ended up flopping horribly.
>>738623153the one thing bungie does well is never learn
>>738623153cus they wanted to do something fresh and good and new that is marathon, a fresh good new game
>>738623258>fresh good new gameHow come its just recycled destiny 2 though?
>>738623201if there was no horizon for profit with marathon sony would have canned it like concord, they know it will turn a profit. they didn't mention d2, they know d2 has no horizon for it.
>>738623398they cant can it even if they want to like you said D2 is on maintenance mode they literally have no other option but to hope marathon turns a corner their 4 billion dollars rides on it and it already failed
>>738608379How much of that bonus went to the C-suite?
>>738591468This looks like garbage
>>738584295Elden Ring sold over 30 million units to make a billion $.
>>738586867The owner of Bungie must have laughed his ass of to the bank.Disney paid $4 billion for the entire Starwars franchise (and run it into the ground).
>>738625835dear god
>>738625835WERE DOOMED AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>738614579weird, this es seems to be going up every day?
>>738614579why didnt hunt suffer the same fate then? or dark and darker?
>>738584295I wonder if the $765M include the cost of Bungie acquisition and marketing expenses
>>738625835Sub 10k this week, trust.
>>738584295Sony's Q4 ended in early March, right at the Marathon launch window.The full extend of how much Bungie fucked up wont be until Q1 2026 earning in July. Its gonna be way worse.
Bungie has forgotten that this Dark Souls-lite system of storytelling where they leave the meat of the plot hidden in weapon descriptions and trading cards was a desperation ploy when they carved up Destiny 1 last minute and didn't have the time to actual put in the story. It was never meant to be a sustainable solution, and all their games have suffered as a result.
>on dire marsh solos>attack a destroyer>we both kill each other at the same time>I remember I have a self res and start reviving>realize he also has one and will finish getting back up a few moments before me>crawl towards the corner>he's up>I manage to finish getting around the corner but he's sprinting full speed ahead at me>toss frag grenade directly at my feet>timing was flawless. Right as he turns the corner the grenade goes off, killing us both again>jokes on him. I have ANOTHER self revive>he just gives up and suicides as I stand up a 2nd time and walk towards himGave me such a hard on. He was absolutely JUICED with loot too, like fucking 10k+ worth of valuables. Feels good man!
>>738608809Arrogance, toxic positivity. Dedication to a vision that is incredibly unappealing to everyone but a very few number of players. Bleeding talent and replacing them with idiots and woke failuresAnd of course having defenders that are completely disconnected from reality. >>738627661It's part of the acquisition this way:. Sony says they bought Bungie for 3.6 billion fucking dollars. Sony claims they have an asset worth 3.6 billion dollars. Bungie fucks up at an Ubisoft class level. Sony is forced to admit Bungie is now worth 2.8 billion dollars for now. It does NOT cover any dev expenses for making Marathon. That's still another quarter billion dollar loss, and going up every month. >>738627914Officially Sony has said they don't expect Marathon to lose more money or Destiny to drop in revenue.
>>738628906>Officially Sony has said they don't expect Marathon to lose more money or Destiny to drop in revenue.Granted I do believe them here. They'll probably roll back Marathon's support to a level where they can avoid spending much but not so much that it'd look like they abandoned it. Letting it truck on while barely breaking even or just being treated as a loss leader and brand investment is probably better for them than actually cutting it.
>>738628201Sounds like a blast!
Im gonna play arc raiders
You losers aren't hardcore enough for this niche extraction shooterI'm having a bla--WHAAAAAT???NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBUNGIE BAN HIM!!!!BAN HIM!!!!
>>738629125Currently they say that Marathon is all hands on deck with something like 400 people. Check Marathon's rank on steam rev charts. If they go that route, it will require massive layoffs.
>>738621589It was bothThey turned one game with a constant 100k players into two with “stable” 10k
I think shitting on the art style is unfair. Colorful corpocore prefabs in desolate, eerie landscapes are interesting it's just that the rest of the game around it just sucks.
>>738630079you're just bad at fps and that's ok
>>738630079Nah the clown vomit buildings are distasteful and it doesn't work with the actual normal looking landscape and sky
>>738630079Nah it looks ass
>>738630079>Colorful corpocore prefabs in desolate, eerie landscapes are interestingno not really
I only click on Marathon threads to look for Vandal art and porn because I have an android/robot girl kink.
>>738631091Sadly the game isn't even that popular to get much.
I refuse to believe it cost that much money, anyone believing these numbers is retarded.
>>738584295>>738584364low effort threads for a low effort game
>>738584295>Thoughts?My thoughts on this piece of shit from a team of millennial skinwalkers pretending to be Bungie flopping is summed up so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5E8_c78THk
>>738584364What pathetic cope.
I literally never gave the slightest fuck about this game and have no idea what it's about beyond covert art looking like Cyberpunk by a Destiny fanQRD on why I should hate it? Is it woke? Was it done in spite of consumers? Does the game contain niggers?
>>738637793Recycled bungslop trying to milk a market
>>738637793Chuds think that all of triple A gaming is conspiring to get them to play this and they're fighting back by making endless seethe threads
>>738637793There's also the nigger cattle above me that like to advertise this slop
>>738630079It’s weird because it seems like the kind of art style you would choose if ur an indie studio with no budget and want to make something distinctive but cheap. But Marathon was a AAA game with hundreds of millions of dollars poured into it, so I don’t see why they went with this art style.
>>738637793You're going to get blamed for it's failure anyways so might was well laugh at Bungie before they're gone.
>>738625835It lost another 3k players this week? That can't be right.
>>738639002Sub 10k next week easy.
>>738637953I'm glad so many chuds finally realize they are not the target audience of this wonderful AAA game and didn't buy it to be part of it. Just imagine how awful this game would be if all these hundred of thousands chuds run into this game and inflate online into another soulless mas product game like Arc Riders. Maybe this game has only 15K gamers, but they are having a blast!
>>738639202this
Cope chuddiesMarathon and Mixtape wonYour gook desert slop flopped and sloppedHaving a blast
>>738637793You should probably not give a fuck, but Bungie has given millions of dollars via it's foundation to groups that want to shut this place down, and their employees publicly call for it as well. >>738638576This anon is an economic terrorist.
the only thing sadder than the people engaged in the pro/anti-marathon war are the people that concern themselves with the economics of a game studio that they are not employed by or an investor in.game stays online - sweetgame goes offline - darn
>>738637793game is ugly, just look at this shit
Has it stabilized yet?
>>738640656Even saymyname turned on the game
>>738640656>Peak is only at 11k>Sony wants to keep support the game indefinitely
>>738640870oh hey obujekuto
>>738595992>>738597373>>738604651>>738605695>>738605879I have always thought Paul Tassi was a faggot but him being so emotionally invested in Destiny and concern-trolling Marathonsissies is fun to see.
>>738639002That’s actually very consistent.
>>738597373The game is dying because there's so much you can take until losing your shit to cheaters makes you quit the game for good. Also retention is pretty awful because Bungie tried too hard to make the game progression grindy so that players get stuck for hundreds of hours into the blue shield progression meta, all for the sake of making sure players just go on nonstop until wipe.
>>738640870>>738641112Mental illness, watch this sick clip while you wait out your 3 days ban
>>738641317I didn't need any drama or a spokeperson to stir shit. Yes, the game has some issues with cheaters. It's a shame because it's good
>>738584295>>738584713>Impairment lossesDecided to open the article because I'm not familiar with the term.>Bungie, for which Sony revealed another $565 million in impairment losses, joining the $200 million it had announced previously>What is now $765 million dollars in impairment losses against Bungie is not something as simple as “Bungie games are $765 million in the red.” Rather, what impairment losses are doing is acknowledging that Bungie is not as valuable an asset as Sony thought it was when it bought it for $3.6 billion, so it keeps knocking that number down.Things are not going well for Marathon but the loss figures cited aren't specific to the game's performance or development costs, more about the unhinged amount Sony bought the studio for during peak Destiny 2.
That game came out? I though it was still in beta.
>>738640058But what's sadder than that is the people who care about the people who concern themselves with the economics of a game studio that they are not employed by or an investor in. They tried to shut this place down. That's enough for my investment.
>>738584364Cope
>>738640656It'll be a stable 1k players soon.
>>738640656>>738641269It's very consistently losing players. >>738641781If D2 and marathon were bringing in money, particularly growing amounts of money, they wouldn't be taking this hit to valuation.
D2 has a higher 24hr ccu than Marathon on PC. Lel
>>738641880That's not how it actually works. If Marathon brings money and is profitable or breaks even that would still count as impairment loss because Bungie was bought under the assumption it would make huge games and create a consistent flow of cash. They are just realizing that Bungie is not actually worth 3.6B, but that doesn't automatically mean Marathon made no money whatsoever
>>738641816>They tried to shut this place down.Irrelevant of anything else, this is unacceptable.I always separate the art from the artist, but this is over the line.Horrible to find this out.
>>738641816>They tried to shut this place down.uhhhh??
>>738584295What can we as steamdb users do to help?
>>738642032Sony pays 3m per month just in Marathon developer salaries. Even if the game broke even, which it didn't even come close to. They'd need to sell 75k copies each month, or the equivalent in mtx, just to keep the devs paid. No other costs factored in.
>>738641880>If D2 and marathon were bringing in money, particularly growing amounts of money, they wouldn't be taking this hit to valuation.Depends as this is Sony writing down their own asset, so they kind of get to pick whatever amount they want (hurts Sony's total holdings and asset resale value but they get to write down their taxes), which is to say sure to an extent. The point is that even at peak player/money making the original valuation was crazy (which people said as much at the time); IIRC Sony wanted to make a bunch of semi-shared world live service games and saw Bungie as technology expert / builder for that (which is part of why they spent a bunch of money on keeping existing staff during the buyout).
>>738642047Bungie is responsible for things like sweet baby inc. existing.
>>738642209>Sony pays 3m per month just in Marathon developer salaries.That's idiotic and not true in the slightest
>>738642242including >>738642090 in the reply
>>738615557>artstyle was stolen by tranny>models are trannies too>bungie brags about trans and latinx employees"w-why do you keep bringing up trannies"
>>738642242source?
>>738607749neither /ourguy/ nor bungie said that they sold 1.2 million copiesthey had 1.2 million players including the server slam numbers
>>738642250Bet. >avg. Salary at bungie is 90k>lowball 400 of bungie's 850 employees are working on marathon>$90k/empx400emp/12mo=$3m/moThe truth is that it probably costs even more.
>>738642378There aren't 400 people working solely on one game after it's release lmao
>>738642378>the average code monkey earns 7.5k per monthyeah sure thing retard
>>738642435Working? Probably not, educating employees on trans rights and kneeling for whatever topical social issue concerns them at the time? Hundreds on the payroll
>>738642435Grow a brain anon. Bungie has 850 employees and two products. All of their incubation projects were given to other studios by Sony or cancelled. All reports out of bungie say marathon is the studio's primary focus. I rounded down as a courtesy, the reality is marathon is hemorrhaging money every month it stays online.
>>738642480Code monkey from third world can't believe how much code monkey in California earns. Troon code monkey earn 7.5K in California then give 1.5K of his money to buy code monkey from third world to do all his work.
>>738642480Nice denial, their salary ranges and company average are public information, evwryone knows this. I work in the PNW and make more than that.
daily marathon discussion
>>738642641gamers just saying shit and having no idea what it costs to run a game like thisthey're not leaving this game up as charity. either it's currently better than taking it down or internal analysis from sony says it will soon be better than taking it down.
>snoy bought bungie and gave away all IPs to microsoft aside from destiny and shit no ones cares about like marathon lollmao
>>738642789Sony's analysis was based off the March performance numbers. Says so right in the call docs. April and May show they were wrong in their predictions.
>>738614471can you imagine being the one productive female employee at bungie, drawing textures or designing environments or something, only to be dragged down to the lobby by some HR roastie so they can waste an hour setting up and taking this picture
>>738642641>the reality is marathon is hemorrhaging money every month it stays onlineSure, but not the amount mentioned or to salaries. I do think it's funny that you think everyone who works at bungie is a developer or makes even near that much money though (or that so much work time is directed only at one specific project; might as well count the CEO in there as it's the companies 'main focus' right).
I’m sure the game that was in dev hell for 7 years with its hundreds of developers working in the most expensive city on earth had a pretty reasonable budget, surely
>>738643351but enough about Pragmata
Game will continue
>>738643542More. Let's go, sub 3k players online. Come on, Bungie.
>>738584295don't care, i stand on the right side of the history not like you chuds
>>738584295Between this and concord they should become a Sega. They've lost a retarded amount of money
>>738619659No if it's not on their financials it didn't break a million on all sales.
>>738598198Yes. But this also happened with D2 PVP. NuBungie has no idea about how to deal with this shit.
>>738584295ONE MORE CONCORD REJECTED
Don't you all just love discussing biz shit on my videogame board? Why do you losers think you're suddenly professional financial experts just because you look at steamcharts all day?Marathon is a succes unlike Concord or Highguard, no amount of jeet seething will change this fact
>>738630079>could have made it into megastructure kino for at least some unique extraction shooter>went with destiny 2 pvp on generic glorp planet number 72.
KEEEEEEEEEEEK IT GO DOOOWN IT GO DOOOOOOWN
>>738584295it do go down.
>>738584295Money isn't real.
>>738645978Tell that to the people who get laid off when their employer loses money.
>>738642298 Lol he has no source he made it up >>738641816 >>738642090 >>738642242
>>738643414>pragmata…is a game that turned a profit.
>>738591468what kind of demented god would ruin a perfectly good landscape by throwing a pink dildo right in the middle?
>>738643414>Headquarters Chūō-ku, Osaka, Japan>osaka>expensivetroonie what?
>>738584295Thought that was an anthro bird chick at first what the fuckNever been more let down
>>738647714Ranked mode was a mistake.
>>738647714BLASTING OFF
>>738647714There's 0 reason to do ranked. Was a stupid idea to begin with and I'm guessing they'll remove it eventually. The game is already sweaty enough, why would anyone wanna join matches where you're guaranteed to be going against the biggest no-lifers?
>>738647714really funny how everyone you bring this up you spawn a fag insisting that it isn’t the case and he found a match in 30 seconds
>>738648940To be fair, that's a special case. Ranked is supposed to match you with the players of a similar rank, and Pinnacle is the highest rank. A small percentage of a small playerbase.
How could this.... not sell
PLAYER ENGAGEMENT IS HIGH!!PLAYER ENGAGEMENT IS HIGH!!PLAYER ENGAGEMENT IS HIGH!!
>>738645469>>738645523>Marathon will be supported for years to come
>>738649337what else can they do realistically? sell bungie for scraps? maybe tencent will buy the ips?
>>738649417Marathon is basically new IP with the name paste on it with how the game barely has anything to do with Marathon. No one gonna buy it if this is what studio capable of, I assume Sony would let them try one or two more time before cutting the lost
the crimson desert vs marathon stuff is the weirdest shit i've seen on this board in a while. they're not even trying to appeal to the same fucking audience. it's like paid shills fighting other paid shills just for the sake of it.it's really fucking weird.
jesus christ sunday peak was 11k. We might see sub 10k this week lmao>>738642032thats some prime cope, the CFO of sony said that earnings from bungie titles did not meet expectations so they had to readjust bungie worth lmao.Aka marathon flopped and destiny 2 kept on declining in revenue. So their revenue goal for this quarter was not met at all. >In our studio business, earnings from Bungie’s title portfolio did not reach our expectationsctrl f bungie https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/25q4_sonyspeech.pdf
>>738649523I was gonna say halo and destiny might be worth something to tencent but I remembered that they don't even have the halo ip lmao, they legit spent 4 billion on hot air
>>738649530nah tranny, crimson desert has hot chicks which means it was made with gamers in mind, maratroon has ugly mutt tranny freaks, which means that it was made with larry fink and resetera in mind, gamers winning and troonshits losing is a big W for us gamers and we're running victory laps on you subhuman troon freaks
>>738649593They can't do much with Destiny anyway, it already has mobile game and I doubt anyone will be thrill for Destiny 3
Welcome to concord family
>>738649665both your games are dogass.
>>738649417from bungies perspective turning marathon around in to popular gaas is their one and only hail mary with maybe 5% chance of successfrom sony's perspective, best they can do is force bungie to produce one last destiny 2 expansion to tie in to destiny 3, then gut the studio and have maybe 100 guys left to keep destiny 2 alive while they have couple support studios build destiny 3 from scratch in UE5 as ps6 exclusive for 2030, then fire the rest of the bungo dinosaurs and keep the studio name with a whole new crew and no tiger engine 30 years of tech debt
>>738642032>If Marathon brings money and is profitable or breaks evenit doesn't, spending 250 million to make 50 million is not "making money", but maybe I should just pitch my idea to sony, I'll spend 5 million on eating at expensive restaurants then sell the shit I pooped out as fertiliser for 30 cents and then claim that I made money, then some tranny shills like you will defend my business plan because I am making money ;)
>>738649750suck shit tranny kill yourself lmao
>>738649836both your games are incredibly subpar.
>850 employee>salary higher than entire Chinese iphone factory
>>7385842953.5 billion for Bunghole300+ million for Marathonseveral million each month to keep 800 troons employedThis is shaping up to become the biggest blunder in gaming history.
>>738649854>a-a-actually b-b-both*farts in your face*SUCK ON THAT TROOON LMAOOOO
>>738649904i would not play either of your games even if i was paid to.
>>738649929yet you are here spending 10 minutes posting on cooldown trying to damage control, sounds like you care, about people shitting on your tranny game lmfao loser bitch kys
>>738649973both your games are the bottom of the creative barrel.
>>738649992>another weak damage control post on cooldownoh no no no no the maratroonie is desperate
>>738650037both your games are already forgotten.
>>738649278This but unironically, blue/black lipstick is hot.I didnt buy the game, btw.
>>738650051maratroonie meltie
>>738650052shes literally the only well done character in this game
>>738650081thank you anon. i now understand why these two games are in fact compared so vehemently. it's a desperate race to avoid last place.goodbye :)
I still thi l paying 4 billions for a studio that known for one popular series (Halo, which is already on downtrend) is retarded nigger level of stupidity
>>738649879>>738649890average salary for a bunghole employee is 100k lmao, lets just assume 700 are developers thats 70m a month in salaries and thats just the base cost, you also gotta factor in bonuses, healthcare etc so that can easily jump up to 140k per employee.Insomniac games got hacked and it revealed the full cost for their 240man dev team to make spiderman 2. these game studios kinda ask for it, putting themselves in silicon valley, washington, la and other high cost of living cities.
Uh oh looks like shillmygame got BTFO as per usual
>Lower 24h peak than D2 LOL
>>738616667>You have never read a word (...) in your life>and are most likely AmericanNo need to make the same point twice anon
>>738650645I remember the time when D2 used to have a consistent 100k peak. How the mighty has fallen.
>>738650645how can it be over if it has never even started
>>738650645sub 10k soon
Hit ~3500 last night and still losing 15-18% per week. In a worse fork of the timeline there are no Steamcharts and the media apparatus tries and generally succeeds gaslighting us into believing that the game is thriving.
Absolute peak
>>738650340Salaries include healthcare you neet. The average salary at Bungie is just shy of 90k, this is public information. Since you also clearly struggle with math, average stands for the mean salary, or the combined total slaries of every Bungie employee, from janny to executive, divided by the total employee amount. No one at Bungie is getting bonuses. Bungie's monthly costs for employee salaries is $76.5m.
>>738653151Ironically in that timeline, the player count would be less because there'd be no fags keeping it logged in or making sure to boot up every night to pump the numbers.
