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I see people talk about fanworks being bad, because you could be making something original, and maybe making money or whatever off of it, but honestly that feels like the wrong mindset.
Working on fanthings doesn't have to be the end all be all for every second of time I'm spending. I can still be doing something "productive" in my other time, but doing something purely for the sake of "I enjoy doing this" is good. It's good to have hobbies, even if that hobby is fanart,fiction, music, or making a whole damn fangame.

>>738609770
It is also good practice for when you eventually make something original, anyone that complains that you could be working on your original idea right now is just short sighted and only does it for the cash

>>738609284
Saw this on youtube a minute ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQDC0Hngcw Makes me wish there was a deltarune style game with these kind of graphics.

>>738609885
honestly it would be really cool if someone tried to make a 3d fangame. I'm surprised I haven't heard of anyone ever trying at least.

>>738609885
I think this is what Toby would want to make if he had the skills to do it

>>738609938
People already barely finish the 2D ones, a 3D one would die before leaving concept stage
In fact there used to be a 3D fangame many years ago, but it predictably died without any fanfare

>>738609861
that's a good point, people are in such a hurry to "make it big here and now" but having fun as you build your skills and find out more of what you like to make, is a huge benefit.

>>738609885
That would be really cool, but that title feels like it's trying a little too hard.
FFX came out in 2001 for the PS2, and it looks higher fidelity than that, a Square-developed 2001 PS2 release of Deltarune would look better than that video suggests.

>>738609861
>It's also good practice.

Nope lol.
Making fanfics, fanworks whatever, spares you from practicing the things that *actually* matter like making people care about your characters, coming up with interesting concepts etc.. you ARE outsourcing the heavylifting.

>But muh muh

lol

>>738610145
show your original works then anon

>>738610145
>meanwhile, toby got his start with fangames and is now living the dream
lmaoing at your life.

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"no, you must only pursue final products and money. That is why you were born. Doing things because you enjoy it is verbotten"
What causes this.

>>738609770
I think it just isn't applicable either. Every time I try to turn one of my fanfics into a wholly original work, I just end up with two projects I want to work on.

>>738610081
>In fact there used to be a 3D fangame many years ago, but it predictably died without any fanfare
oh, I didn't know there was one. I mean it's not surprising that it died, but I was expecting that I would have at least seen them attempted.

>>738610182
In fact ill double down and say that making fanworks will actually stunt your growth as writer dev whatever due to the following reasons:

1- When you write fanfiction, you aren't building a character from scratch. You skip the difficult exercise of establishing a character's personality and all that so the player, reader whatever cares about them. Fanwork authors struggle to create an original protagonist that doesn't feel like a hollow trope when the fandom skin is removed.

2- Fanworks come with a pre-built audience. People engage a story because they already love the IP, which gives you zero feedback about wether your work is skilled or not. Fans are often more forgiving of poor pacing, weak prose, or structural flaws as long as their favorite characters are interacting.

3- In original works, the creator must establish the rules of the world (worldbuilding). Making fanworks only teach you how to play in a sandbox. Because you are working within someone else's sandbox, you are narratively constrained by the original creator’s choices. This can limit your ability to build a narrative arc from a blank page to a satisfying conclusion.

>But muh toby

Survivorship bias

>>738610589
That guy who said "fun is a buzzword" once underwent mitosis and now makes up the majority of this site's userbase.

>>738610145
You still have to make people give a shit for them to want to read/play your work. People will drop a bad fanfic just like they'd drop a bad book. You as the author still have to make it an enjoyable and engaging read. Same for games and comics.

>>738610750
No one respond to this guy, it's just the sharty again, albeit armed with a thesaurus.

>>738609938
There's a 3d snowgrave game, but its more like 2d sprites on a 3d background. Like an isometric version of doom.

>>738610750
you're wrong. Yeah you have some things easier in a fan work, but it functions as training wheels to get better at those other things. You get practice at characterizing existing characters, which helps train you to understand how a characters goals and motives should function in a story.

You also get to practice many fundamentals of writing that aren't hindered at all such as pacing and word flow.

In short, you're wrong.

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Reposting Bedo's slilk again for any who may have missed it: https://files.catbox.moe/mj878a.png

>>738610891
ah, my bad. Well anyways fun things are fun and that's hard to deny.

>>738610081
>I think this is what Toby would want to make if he had the skills to do it
Making a 3d game isn't much harder than making a 2d if the player doesn't control the camera. Especially not if you have access to a professional team like Toby does. I think Toby wants 2d for stylistic purposes.

>>738611114
He wanted DR to have the Chrono Trigger artstyle originally

>>738610124
I think the guy just wanted to animate Deltarune in that artstyle. I think its fair if his animation is smaller in scope than one actually made by Square would be.

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shhhhh....the wildlife is sleeping....

>>738610941
oh neat, I really need to set aside more time to play the fangames that come from outside of here. so many games so little time, but it's still cool to see.

>>738611189
Well that is still 2d pixel art.

>>738611214
Yeah, I just feel like the video could've been called something else at that rate.
If they said 2000 or 1999 I wouldn't really have batted an eye, but the same year and platform as FFX?
Just throws it off a bit.

>>738611306
Kinda looks like a wet floor sign, but for someone doing a ki blast. What's this for?

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Alright, Flash 'Gizmo' Gordon and The Evil Queen Sadiestica. I know you asked for "entirely in character" but I strayed a little from that, I hope it's still close enough.

>Captain Flash ‘Gizmo’ Gorgon sat in the pilot's seat of his state of the art Rocket ship, running the headlines through his mind. The eclipse, the moon base incident. Galactic grounding of space fleets? His heroic intuition roared from within, tyranny was afoot, yet to reveal its true intentions. He flicked the ignition switches and activated the space traversal rays. The countdown began, and the star-receiver buzzed to life, the commissioner of earth signaling through, DEMANDING to know why he was performing an unauthorized take off.

>“Gorgon, GORGON, even you aren’t exempt from the universal no fly zone.” he grumbled as the countdown ticked down
10
9
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>“Gorgon, I’ll have you thrown in space jail, don’t try me!”
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>“GORGON, Shut. down. your. rocket, immediate-”
>Cool and collected as always, Gizmo Gorgon interrupted, flashing a stunning grin at the receiver, “you’re not the real commissioner, are you.
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>“Everyone knows, the commissioner always calls me FLASH.” with that, he sent a feedback ray straight through the star-receiver, disrupting the disguise mechanisms, revealing the true mastermind behind the Galactic no fly zone. The Sinister queen Sadiestica!
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>(“sadie, that’s your cue”)
>(O-oh I’m sorry, um I mean)
>“So you’ve figured me out Flash Gizmo!”
>(“Gorgon”)
>(“Haha, I know I know”)
>“Ahem, But you’re too late Flash Gorgon! I’ve already got my death ray aimed directly at your launch pad!”
>Gizmo Gorgon chuckled winking as he waved a finger, “Well then Sadiestica, I’m afraid that you’re too late.”
>The evil queen gasped, commanding her underlings, “Quick, fire the death ray!”

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>>738611671
>From a cloaked station in orbit of the earth, a crackling beam of blackened light shot forth, hardly visible but for the keen eye of flash!
Flash laughed boldly as his rocket was not in fact destroyed!
>(“Wait, how?”)
>Because, the countdown was actually a fake! Flash launched his ship without a countdown 2 hours ago, and has been waiting in space with his systems powered down, waiting for the source of all of this evil to reveal itself!
>(...)
>(“Really?”)
>“I mean,” Sadiestica stammered, “I’ve got you right where I want you Flash Gorgon, my death ray will make short work of your ship, then I will rule the galaxy with my uh- With my robot drone network!”
>Flash jolted upright in his seat, breaking out in a cold sweat. Not because of the death ray that needs time to recharge
>(“Seriously?”)
>But for the depths of evil this robot drone network could be capable of. He knew he only had one option!
>(“Let me guess”)
>he had to use his emergency ray powered, experimental thruster system!
>(“Called it.”)
>Flash flipped the system online, as a series of beeps and whistles chittered across the cockpit, it was just as likely to blow up his ship as it was to save his hide, but a hero is never afraid!
>Queen Sadiestica declared as the prototypes hummed to life, “Foolish Flash, even if you manage to board my death queen station, my killer… killer
>(“what should I call them?”)
>(“I don’t know um… Insecto droids?”)
>“Killer Insecto droids!” The dark queen Sadiestica laughed in the face of justice, “Come meet your doom Flash, I’ll be waiting!”
Can flash activate the prototype drive without being blown across space and time?
Even if he survives boarding the Death Queen station, does he have what it takes to face off against deadly Insecto droids?
>Find out next time on the daring exploids of Flash, ‘Gizmo’ Gorgon!

>>738611767
bonus round

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>As the sun began to set, Gizmo and Sadie casually walked home. Gizmo was still full of energy, going on about rayguns and super rockets! But Sadie just giggled watching him go on. His ways of ‘escaping danger’ were questionable, and it was hard to get into character sometimes, but it was still kind of fun playing as an evil queen. She wouldn’t give him TOO much trouble when he inevitably makes up a solution to the death bots or whatever.
But would he be ready for her next nefarious plan? She laughed again as they parted ways to their own houses, making no effort to plan ahead for their silly games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4

FLASH

>>738610750
Fanfiction does train the important skill of being able to work with what you have, which is something all writers need. You still need to write your characters consistently and tell an engaging story, and unlike in original fiction you can't just rewrite the whole setting or character to make something work. As an author, the longer you write a work, the more defined it becomes, and as a consequence the more beholden to it you are. Being able to expand a story in a natural and engaging way is vital.

There's also the fact fanfiction is good practice for your prose and scene to scene writing. Sure you aren't creating new characters or settings, but you still have to depict them believably and tell a good story with them.

And of course there's nothing stopping you from creating original characters or elements of the setting in your fanfiction.

A lot of those inspired by (rip off) indie games should have just been rom hacks or fangames. Capitalism can be an awful thing.

I played a lot of Gang Garrison 2 and MM8BDM back in the day, they were really cool games and even cooler how they managed to retain a playerbase for years.

>>738611581
these little critters will be puzzle barriers that go away when you complete a puzzle

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Which UTY characters would get along with Carol Holiday?

>>738611381
It doesn't have a demo out yet, but the dev posts progress on YouTube. The game is very horror themed. Its a shame I can't remember the name.

>>738611478
I think the name is fair if it was specifically what he was trying to emulate.

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>>738609938
3D modeling is harder than simple 8 bit sprites and even then people struggle to make full fangames

>>738611114
>Making a 3d game isn't much harder than making a 2d if the player doesn't control the camera.
Toby barely made UT and DR functional in 2D, the amount of tech debt is insane.
Imagine how bad the code would be if UT was 3D.

>>738612257
I believe it, but you know how you see people announcing they are going to take on overambitious projects all the time. Still ultimately it makes sense.

>>738611923
Ceroba they’re both rich filthy weeb. Chinju might hate Carol’s guts for being a dirty humaboo

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sadie's sadies

>>738611671
>Space jail
Kek
>>738611767
>Scattered across space and time
>Dark drive
Presumably the invention of the mysterious and brilliant doctor which no one ever seems to remember the name of

Anyways I love the adlibs and character breaking segments. They're adorable. I'm also impressed at how well ypu captured the vibe. Did you read some classic sci fi just for this, or go watch the Flash Gordon serials?

>>738612689
have you thought about finding an artist to work with you? Not to replace but to help, like Temmie did Toby.

>>738612689
drytenna's censors are gonna kill him

>>738612892
Anon, that guy isn't DRYanon. It is just some anon that likes Sadie to have huge tits.

>>738611827
>His ways of ‘escaping danger’ were questionable, a
This gives me an idea. What if when he's in the dark world, he gets really overconfident because he thinks he can just ass pull his way out of any situation like he did in his pretend games, because the dark world really resembles them.

Also I really like Queen Sadiestica. Great name.

>>738610994
monster neet girls are built for breeding and romantic sex

>>738612747
>Did you read some classic sci fi just for this, or go watch the Flash Gordon serials?
both but it was mostly a quick skimthrough to refresh my memory. I feel like a lot of the early loonie tunes space episodes were inspired by the flash gordan type of stuff since it aired across that similar timespan.
>Presumably the invention of the mysterious and brilliant doctor which no one ever seems to remember the name of
>Flash gizmo can never seem to remember who built these devices for him, but he trusts them with his life! Only the fearless can handle the terrible secrets of SPACE

Glad you liked it though. It made me realize there's almost no fanart of sadie and or gizmo.

>>738611907
I feel like a lot stuff ends up feeling *more* derivative as a legally distinct work. You can tell it really wanted to be that existing ip, but was shoehorned into being distinct for legal reasons. At least as fanfiction you can treat it like you would a sequel. Here all you can do is call it a cheap ripoff.

>>738612954
That's a pretty good idea. He reaches to his belt where OBVIOUSLY he has a special ray beam for this situation. or does he?
Sadiestica felt like the kind of name you'd really have seen on some old pulp comic villain.

>>738611923
>>738612498
I think Carol and Roba would have an amicable relationship due to their similarly serious personalities. But if they clashed over any issue it would get nasty quick.

>>738612416
3d games lend themselves well to using and refusing bioler plate assets. Basically all the code and assets can be gotten freely from the Internet and assembled together. Yeah it would probably be yandere dev tier in terms of optimization, but that would be our problem, not toby's.

Anyways low poly 3d modeling isn't that hard compared to spriting. I've done both and they're different, but I wouldn't call one inherently harder than the other. Modeling relies more on technical knowledge while pixel art relies on mechanical skill.

>>738612689
Gizmo is so lucky

>>738612948
Wasn't there a tv darkner in Robotopia?

>>738613509
Gizmo's into humans, he's a fan of AMoFH

>>738613065
>I feel like a lot of the early loonie tunes space episodes
They were literally named Duck Dodgers, they absolutely were.

>It made me realize there's almost no fanart of sadie and or gizmo.
I may go draw some.

>>738613446
*using and reusing boiler plate assets

>>738613712
>They were literally named Duck Dodgers, they absolutely were.
ah shit that's right they were. as cheesey as flash gordon was, it's pretty clear then it had a lot of fans throughout it's different time periods.
>I may go draw some
would be really cool to see.
though I'm imagining Gizmo dressed up as flash and it's really funny.

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opinions on the kindness fan game that releases next week?
https://youtu.be/Fr0z0fZRfmo

>>738613165
Not just that, but he's constantly running into dangerous situations because of course he should be able to get put of them, he's the hero.

>Sadiestica felt like the kind of name you'd really have seen on some old pulp comic villain.
Yeah, and it also feels like the kind of thing a kid would come up with, which makes it adorable. Plus I love wordplay like that.

>>738613656
He's also into bugs, and is a tomcat, so they aren't mutually exclusive.

>>738614024
Disappointment

>>738614162
can't wait for DRY's epilogue that shows us Cole and Kanako's wedding several years into the future, among the people on the wedding we can see Gizmo and his 5 wives 13 kids, 2 of the wives being humans

>>738613821
I love Flash Gordon because of how cheesy it is.

>though I'm imagining Gizmo dressed up as flash and it's really funny.
I'm imagining something like that. Though he'd be wearing the gish bowl space helmet he wears in the game

>>738614301
Actually his two wives and 112 kids, two of which are humans.

>>738614024
>releases next week
What, a full release?

>>738614538
first area/chapter/act as far as I know, not a full game

>>738614568
Well, I guess that's something.
Someone should probably play it and report back, see if there's anything to it worth a damn.

>>738614469
how many of those kids are bugs?

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>>738614083
>Not just that, but he's constantly running into dangerous situations because of course he should be able to get put of them, he's the hero.
Feels like the kind of stuff that's right at home happening to a flash Gordon-like character.
>>738614368
The cheesiness is definitely a plus side. Just unrepentant in what it is.
I do still like parody takes on it, when the parody feels like it comes from a place of fondness (you know how there's those parodies that seem to hate the source every second and others that are having a blast with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKEV7nxiX4

Duck dodgers always felt like it really enjoyed what it was being, and the intro feels appropriate in tone. Though of course being duck dodgers, it's silly.
>I'm imagining something like that. Though he'd be wearing the gish bowl space helmet he wears in the game
based, I don't think I've actually seen what he looks like in game iwth the bowl helmet, but those are classic.

>>738614636
98, twelve are cats.

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>>738614024
>>738614629
I hope the fangame is actually good and the usual twitter stuff doesn't get into the game, but if it does, I want it to be in the most blatant and in your face way imaginable, something that would make even the most "woke" people cringe, all or nothing, either we get a good fangame or a shitshow that can give us laughs for a long while

>>738614024
the top surgery scar shark, in the trailer, is at least depicted in a normal way, so maybe it's going to avoid being horribly tonedeaf? Maybe?

>>738614939
NTA, but I think the main issue is the leather bondage gear, frankly.
As long as he isn't dressed like that, I think it'll be fine.

>>738614809
>Feels like the kind of stuff that's right at home happening to a flash Gordon-like character.
In the serial he'd practically die in every episode for a cliffhanger, then in the next episode he'd just casually get out of that life ending situation like its nothing.

>The cheesiness is definitely a plus side. Just unrepentant in what it is.
I admire the sincerity. Its the most conventional and straight forward story possible and its proud to be that.

Where's that pic from?

>>738615058
that's what I'm saying, the trailer looks normal outside of the animated segments, with the shark in a suit. The bondage is just "why are you doing this."

>>738615167
Well, that image seemed to take most of us here by surprise, so I'd say that could be an indication that we don't have much to worry about in the game itself.

>>738615150
It's Captain gordon from Disgaea 1, which overall is filled with a lot of referential and light hearted moments more than any other game in the series. It's the only one I was personally able to sit through.
He's every bit the "captain gordon character" with a bit of a bumbling side, but when the cards are down, despite being significanlty weaker than the main characters absurd power levels, he still embodies that heroic character.
>In the serial he'd practically die in every episode for a cliffhanger, then in the next episode he'd just casually get out of that life ending situation like its nothing
I felt like it was perfect to have a "will he survive? find out next time!" kind of moment. Though maybe it would be more appropriate to end it when the launch pad was destroyed to match the old format more, that was too soon for me.
>I admire the sincerity. Its the most conventional and straight forward story possible and its proud to be that.
I can respect that. Sincerity in any medium is one of the greatest qualities to me. The moment a medium gets crazy ironic, it kills the fun. You see this a lot with scooby doo parodies, there's one kind of parody where you can tell the person was a fan of scooby doo, and then there's another kind where you can tell every moment "haha look how stupid that show was, am I right?"
just own up to what you're making and have fun with it!

>>738612948
>everyone thinks axis would hate melody
>when in reality his built in parental controls causes him to seethe over Sadie’s immodestly contained balls of “personality”
>Sadie is the only person unaware of this

>>738615315
I'll at the very least, still give it a shot. Gameplay and presentation IN game are the most important aspect for me. But I think it's understandable to have some level of concern.

>>738609284
>Has a game ever inspired you to want to make something, even if it was unrelated to the game itself?
Share your thoughts and why you havent started yet!

Honestly, I have not met a group of people to work with.
I think I am good at writing more than anything.
I would like doing blender stuff for other people's project to gain experience.

>>738615629
there's probably people looking all the time that you could get involved with on that, though it would help if you have the skill to avoid drama since it can be hard to tell ahead of time if you're getting involved with "those" kind of people.
I think the local ameture game dev threads also can be a great place to get involved.

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Seems like TS!Underswap is on hiatus due to the main dev's discord getting falsely banned.
Does /v/ have anything to say on this?

>>738615601
Honestly, I don't blame you for having some doubts, and I'm definitely not saying this because I like the game or anything, I only learned about it like a few days ago, I just think there's still room for it to be something potentially decent even if some of the stuff *around* the game is a bit odd.
Once the shark starts running around dressed like a gimp in-game, then it might just be fucked.

>>738615629
I used to think of myself as just a writer until people here talked me into making a fangame. Now I've somehow actually managed to acquire a team and can draw well enough for my purposes.

>>738613656
Gizmo is his town’s equivalent to Berdly. He’ll take what he can get or die a pizzapants

>>738615794
Discord? Not even once
also it looks like in this case they were victims of the sharty, very unfortunate

>>738615794
my thoughts are that it's foolish to only have contact with people through a communication method that can be pulled out from under you.
I understand that if you get involved in something like this, using a discord may be a compromise you have to make, but that these people don't also have eachothers emails to continue collaborating through like people did before, shows the weakness of their will to persevere

>>738615794
>cant work on shit because their main way of communication was a public discord server
Why aint they got a private server?? Man, these devs must be stupid as hell.

>>738615416
>despite being significanlty weaker than the main characters absurd power levels
Are they dbz tier?

>Though maybe it would be more appropriate to end it when the launch pad was destroyed to match the old format more, that was too soon for me.
I think what you did was fine.

>>738612892
were would DRYanon find artists to work with him?

>>738615964
because these fools think they need constant exposure to their fans, which historically is a mistake, that no one seems to learn from.

Discord could be a reasonable communication tool if they just created a private server, used it to stream important parts of workflow to eachother, and organize collaboration, but these people are generally using the discord instead as a "fun community while I make the game" and that never goes well.

>>738615893
Has Gizmo really been given much development in these threads to beyond being “the gamer” or “the horny one”?

>>738615629
If you want to help with writing both DRYanon and Naranjanon were looking for writers a while ago.

>>738616000
>Are they dbz tier?
Easily. There are attacks that scale on the low end, and then there's absurd stuff that the characters start getting pretty quickly like riding a meteor down onto the battle field, and more.

>>738615794
Couldn’t they just make a new actually private server or god forbid use email until they can find something more secure?

>>738615794
Don't use discord.

>>738615834
that's fair, I'll hold off ultimate judgement until I get my hands on it because I have been interested so far. I expect a bit of nonsense considering the communities that get involved in these things, but we'll see.

>>738613446
>3d games lend themselves well to using and refusing bioler plate assets
That depends on how much of an art style you have.

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>>738615964
Ah, I should've been more clear
The dev's account got banned, not the server. None of the other dev's accounts were banned from what I can tell

>>738616846
then we go back to
"use email"

>>738615893
Gizmo is way more liked than Berdly. Besides have you seen the stuff Sadie lets him get by with. He sneaks in through her back window so often she isn't even surprised by it anymore and hangs out with him at home without her parents all the time. When he gets into her house he makes himself at home immediately and starts playing his thousand hour game save. They have to be an item.

>>738615794
>>738616846
Wait, this thing happened nearly a month ago, are they still on hiatus because of it?

>>738615964
I think their accounts got banned, which is the real issue.

what if Deltarune Yellow's weird route just involved getting Cole and Sadie together which causes everything to go to shit because their world exists to be glorified kanacole fic

>>738616139
He likes Flash Gordon and aerospace stuff. Also his interest in games has been discussed in depth on how he differs from Berdly. That being that while Berdly is more of a home console gamer who likes story driven games with endings, Gizmo likes classic atari style arcades where you play forever to get a high score.

>>738616084
I think the problem probably comes from people these days having no irl friends. These guys' only source of social activity is the internet.

is ts Underswap the island one or is it the one where you play as chara

>>738616819
You can make the artstyle around the assets available. Low detail toon low poly style stuff is common and pretty easy to do, so you could use those kind of premade assets, then make your own important characters.

>>738617371
both, in TS!Underswao you play as Chara and the Snowdin equivalent is called something like "Starlight Islands"

>>738617336
well, that probably leads to disasters of its own honestly. It's a fairly good idea to go outside sometimes.

>>738617278
>Arcade games? Talk about a waste of quarters! Ever heard of MAME?
>E-emulators aren't tournament viable, you cringelord!

>>738617475
Going outside is easy. Talking to people and making friends is hard. A lot people simply lose the ability to after school stops forcing them to socialize. Most of this comes from a lack of public places and the ever presence of phones giving everyone something better to do than talk.

I'm outside right now, but I'm also in the woods. No social activity to be had.

>>738617607
someone needs to remind Berdly that cats hunt birds

>>738616952
But then he also clings to Melody even though she most likely has hit him before, and he's obsessed with competing with her.

>>738616139
Unlike Berdly he’s more into classic arcade games and pulpy sci fi like Flash Gordon. Beyond that he’s SLIGHTLY more charismatic (or at least has his handful of friends be people he could realistically fuck) and doesn’t pull the “know it all” bit

>>738617658
>Most of this comes from a lack of public places and the ever presence of phones giving everyone something better to do than talk.
you're definitely right in that the shrinking of public places has caused a problem, and that people stop trying to do it after school stops forcing them to, but it's still not good for the psyche to get that element only from the internet. There's still some hobbies that take people to meet others in person out of the house, and I think it's probably a good idea to do at least a little of that, to keep some "non internet born perspective" in your mind, even if it's not your favorite thing. A lot of problems I think come from a greater and greater number of people being terminally online and lacking perspective outside their headspace.
Even if I personally prefer to spend the vast majority of my time online.

>>738617727
He has a human fetish, leave him alone, I know lots of people who would cling to monster girls if they existed

>>738617607
>Quarters are only a problem for noobs with no skill. I bet that's why you have to sit at home with your save states and memory cards.
>But go ahead, tell me about how good the story is in Phony's latest movie game. I'll be here playing a REAL video game.

>>738617727
But of course, what would he do without his greatest rival to drive him to improve.

>>738617670
I remember there being a comic of Catti threatening to eat Berdly when he was on a "date" with Temmie

>>738617737
Gizmo, unlike Berdly, isn't an asshole. He's a bit obnoxious sure, but not because he's malicious, he just has no filter and is a bit autistic.

>>738609284
I was thinking about a spongebob igavania today. Very strange

>>738618084
To be fair Berdly acting like an asshole is mostly due to being painfully dense and feeling the need to act smarter than everyone in the belief that people will like and respect him for it

>>738618262
nta, but while thats true, and makes berdly a fun character for me. it's still a notable difference between him and Gizmo. Calling them the same gamer trope redone or something isn't fair to either character because they do what they do for different reasons.
Gizmo is probably more actually autistic than Berdly is too.

>>738617857
I'm not saying its a good thing, its frighteningly bad. I'm just saying for a lot of people it either isn't an option or they don't know how. Admittedly my perspective is a bit skewed since I live in a rural area, but for me there really is nowhere to go in public. The only public places are school ball games for people who have kids, church meetings for the old curch ladies, and the bar in the next town over if you're an alcoholic. No restaurants, no public parks, not even a library. The only social interactions I get are with family members and occasionally with friends when they aren't busy.

>>738618262
Berdly acts like an asshole for attention. He has a complex over being ignored so he just does whatever he can to keep people's attention. Including being an ass.

>>738618592
He's just like me...

>>738618486
ah that actually is really rough. while LFGS can vary in quality, I usually suggest that as an "at least you can get together with people from time to time" kind of place, but I'd be surprised if there even was one in a place like that, considering the bar isn't even until the next town over.
I've kind of forced some people I know over the years to stick together for a weekly tabletop get together to try and keep some of that social interaction going, and tabletop is one of those things that I feel like, it's such a varied genre, almost anyone can find something to at least enjoy somewhat in it, but I've noticed even in my midsized town, a lot of gathering places have been shut down over the years, and more and more people are indeed just staying inside all the time.

So fair point made, there's no easy solution for a lot of these people. This is worrying to think on.

>>738618338
Nah Berdly is autistic too for being so socially inept that he can't realize his schtick won't make anyone like him. Except Kris, ironically. Berdly seems to think Kris is his bitter rival, when Kris seems to really enjoy fucking with him.

>>738618636
That's why people either love or hate him. They see their old cringe self in him.

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>>738618793
I hated berdly in 2021 but now I think he's easily the funniest character in accordance to screen time

>>738618707
There's no game stores anywhere near where I live. I've been trying to play table tops with my friends for years, but the scheduling always falls through.

>>738618958
I hated Berdly in 2018, but chapter 2 made me love him.

>>738618994
>scheduling
My condolences, genuinely the worst part, especially when you have some players not making the same amount of effort to fit things in the schedule (though of course I dont know your exact situation). All I can do is wish you good luck, and hopefully if yall do manage to get together. Everyone had a good enough time to prioritize it a bit more.

>>738616952
>Gizmo is unusually short
>Sadie is unusually tall
How do you think they would work as a couple?

>>738619274
Sadie seems to be the passive one in the pair while Gizmo is the active one. Most action comes from him, while Sadie either follows or reigns him in. That's how their dynamic seems in the game.

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>>738609284
Chinese Kanako status?

>>738619976
We will not know until we look inside the box.

>>738619976
Im not optimistic to say the least

>>738618793
either way, not liking berdly is a valid opinion you're allowed to have

>>738617253
Kanako goes yandere at the end and kills sadie in front of cole, forcing them to remain together but the cops arrive and arrest Kanako, cole gets accused of being an accomplice so they're back with each other and preventing the world from breaking apart at a huge cost

>>738609770
>I see people talk about fanworks being bad
People only say this about fanfics, never about fanart

>>738619976
TBD

>>738620720
NTA, but people usually just don't post fanart that most would consider bad.
The last time I saw someone post a piece of art that was pretty clearly not good was that image of all the UTY characters with horrifically fucked up proportions.
People were having a laugh at that one, it was pretty bad.

>>738620687
Nah, Kanako beheads Cole after murdering Sadie and keeps his head on an altar in her room

>>738617253
>cole and sadie kiss
>everything breaks right then and there.
>things get reset
>but now his tastes have permanently shifted to be more for the bug, ensuring that the world is doomed to keep looping.

>>738619976
What is the 2nd UTF with the turkey mommy?

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any mother's day requests to potentially draw anons?

>>738620687
>>738620970
being serious, a DRY weird route where Kanako murders Cole or traps him in a dark world eternally to prevent him from leaving would be interesting

>>738620591
That's fair, I just think hating Berdly is a bit childish.

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>>738620968
>The last time I saw someone post a piece of art that was pretty clearly not good was that image of all the UTY characters with horrifically fucked up proportions.
You mean this one?

>>738621101
Toriel gets mogged by Roba in the milf competition, who in turn gets mogged by Luna's mom, who in turn gets mogged by Zartlet

>>738621183
Well, the uncropped version, but yes.
Jesus, that Martlet is still just a sight to behold.

>>738621101
while I would absolutely love some momlet images, it sounds like you're saying you're not a draw anon and fishing to see if draw anons are down for it?

>>738621101
Ceroba gifting Bun Bun to Delta Kanako or something, I dunno, Martlet and Ceroba are the only two moms we have in fangames so far, maybe Dina if we count her and Melody.

>>738620720
>People only say this about fanfics, never about fanart
it happened earlier in this thread in relation to fangames themselves, though it was likely just a shitposter.

>>738621290
NTA, I think he just forgot a comma.
As in "any mother's day requests to potentially draw, anons?".

>>738621105
Trapping him seems more likely than killing him.

>>738621101
Cole giving Martlet a mother's day gift.

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>>738621269
There's a chance Luna's mom might be the tallest main cast fangame character without counting "mutants" like Zartlet or monsters with human souls

>>738621348
People criticize fangames all the time here. I myself have had a lot of negative things to say about a lot of them.

>>738621349
that's on me for being retarded then. Sorry for that.

>>738621101
Draw what you think Racter's mom looks like.

>>738621513
no anon, I'm talking about criticizing the act of making fangames at all, like that person earlier saying that making fangames is a waste of time and you should just be making original games only.

>>738621101
Zenith Martlet or normal Martlet hugging her kid Clover in a heartwarming scene.

>>738621101
Cole tightly hugging Martlet, thanking her for doing everything she can for him, despite all the difficulties she's been facing.

>>738621130
not really, simply finding a character annoying and not liking them is fine, idk why people can't just say "oh i simply dont like em" nowadays, now you need to make up moral reasons for disliking them or you're only allowed to dislike evil characters, when people used to simply be like "I don't like this character, thus i dont like them" that was the end of it but nowadays theyll call you a heckin chud or incel or whatever buzzwords they can think of for not daring to mindlessly praise their fictional scrimblo forever

>>738621101
Martlet and Zenith are both awesome mothers, so something with them, either with Clover or Cole.
Cole could asking for feathers to put in his hat, and Clover could want to be cuddled by Martlet to be warm and close to her.

>>738621561
I'm NTA, but when Racter's mom was brought up a few threads back, I imagined her as being like a large hen monster wearing some stereotypical medieval women's clothing.

>>738621817
Hate and dislike are two different things. Hatred is intense and emotional. Dislike is plain and often arbitrary. I think disliking him is fine.

>>738622096
now I wanna see the mamma bird giving racter a nice hug.

>>738621101
Luzma trying to be Val's mom, she might have to start paying taxes but it's a sacrifice she's willing to make for Val

>>738621183
The long arm and leg and sometimes torso, of the law.

>>738622325
He could probably use one, yeah.
Hell, I might draw something like that, if no one minds.

>>738622563
I want to see racter loved by his mom, clover/cole loved by his mom, hell I'm not even against Val having a moment with some unexpected momster.
I want to see them all experience love and comfort. if for only a moment.

>>738621101
Definitely something with Zenith Martlet and Clover.

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>>738622096
I imagined her like the storybook idea of mother hen.

>>738621101
DRY Martlet and Cole. She's the best the mother for Cole, and he knows it, that's why he loves her so much.

>>738622563
I don't know what kind of soulless hommunculi would have a problem with that.

>>738623074
Yeah, that's kinda how I was picturing her, but yellower, more like whatever kind of bird Racter is.
I know he's not a specific kind of bird, I just mean that I imagine there would be a little more of a visual similarity between them.

>>738623203
I just meant if no one minds me effectively poaching a request, since I'm not the drawanon from earlier who actively asked for them.

>>738623278
I say go for it, since there's a lot of other requests out.

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>>738622648
>hell I'm not even against Val having a moment with some unexpected momster.
Is there a potential momster for every fallen human in the underground?

>>738616846
....create a forum of fuck sakes!

>>738623325
I feel like the "mom" aspect with val would be less formal, but luzma or even bedo being a "guardian" wanting to give him a place to live if he came back to life, sounds nice.

>>738623379
I think Val would be to old to be really adopted by any monster, they would be closer to a big sister or brother to him, but if he were to stay on the Underground he would need somewhere to live

>>738623314
Alright, I'll see if I can do a quick little thing of Racter getting a hug from his mother before too long, after I finish my studying for the night.

>>738623278
You drawing it doesn't prohobit him from drawing it too. It just means two drawings.

>>738623467
depends on where he's at and what age people are allowed to be on their own there.
I assume him to be like 13-16, which in many places gives him the option of
>run away again and live on the streets
>get pulled into government custody
>Luzma feels a little bad about how things went down, and offers her roof to live under until he's old enough to forge out on his own properly. Maybe even gives him some pointers about getting work for when he's ready.

>>738613070
Yes, that's what I mean. And to make matters worse they're just doing it for money. The motivation for making a free fangame is different. There's nothing wrong with making something of your own and trying to sell it but not when it's done with such a lack of integrity. Consumers share the blame there too.

>>738623337
Webhosting is harder than it used to be and a lot of kids these days simply don't know about it. How would you go about making a forum on a budget of $0?

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>>738623213
There are yellow breeds of chicken

>>738623815
Yeah, but that's still not as yellow as Racter is.
Really, Racter looks like if a chick just never stopped looking like that, even after growing bigger.
Racter has a permanent case of baby-face.

>>738623325
Maybe he'd view his "mom" like a mentor and teacher. Sorta like how Ed and Al's teacher in fma became a surrogate mother to them.

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>>738609284
I make music inspired by video game OSTs and last night made a song last night inspired by the EverGrace/Forever Kingdom OSTs, which everyone but me famously hates. But if you are one of the few based anons out there who like Kota Hoshino's madness, I hope you can enjoy this:
https://voca.ro/1jdJA1Tv9K16

>>738623632
Yeah he can still have a legal guardian at that age, and develop sort of a maternal relationship now that I think about it.
I'm sure Val would find the idea of becoming a mercenary to be really cool, since he's a human he wouldn't be in that much danger, but if Val ever got a job on the underground I imagine he would have his own dojo/gym where he teaches monsters how to fight like a human, with the ultimate goal of training a generation of monsters that can give humans a run for their money in a fight

>>738623325
Dina being Melody's mom in DRY makes me imagine a timeline where Integrity was adopted by Dina in UTY.

>>738623990
There's not enough music anons in general on this site so that itself is based. I'll give it a listen when I'm free here in a bit.

>>738623990
Unfortunately I'm gonna have to agree with everyone but you.
But you do you and follow your dreams.

>>738623931
It doesn't sound as chaotic as the infamous shop theme from Evergrace, which I'm not sure if that counts or not as a compliment to you, not the type of music I'm into, but I respect the grind.

>>738624149
that post was for >>738623990

>>738623993
>Yeah he can still have a legal guardian at that age, and develop sort of a maternal relationship now that I think about it.
yeah I figure it would have to develop like that. He doesn't strike me as a character like clover who's just going to walk underground, have a motherly monster say hello, and he just melts into the embrace 99 routes out of 100, but there's still a good dynamic that could develop.

And even if it wasn't mercenary work directly, Luzma is effectively a contractor, which opens up a large number of work opportunities. She could teach him how to get clients as a contractor, how to present yourself so that people come to associate your name with success at (whatever job) and it could even be a dojo on the surface honestly in that situation.
Though not saying the merc work is out of the question, just saying theres a lot of options that get opened up here for his future if she's willing to give him some guidance.

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>>738623325
asgore probably had to hear 6 different quirky casts of monsters tell him how great the human they just found was

>>738624262
Except for 'tegrity, no one cried for her death in UTY's canon

>>738624262
Bedo definitely didn't go to the king herself, but the undernet probably got one more anti king shitposter that day.

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>>738624303
how could I forget

>>738624303

Axis tried to at least.

>>738624262
>>738624312
You think the monsters that made friends with the fallen humans hold yearly reuinions or something? like the casts of the different games meet up to talk about how much they miss the human they met for such a short time but changed their lives?

>>738624469
that's a pretty common interpretation with yellow.
I've honestly got no idea how interconnected the Naranja cast is going to be like, will Bedo and luzma ever interact? Bedo probably plays that one shitty dbz game every year though.

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>>738624469
I headcanon that the clover crew generally acts as a support group to one another after UTY

>>738623673
I think there can be cases where its wrll intentioned. Really the person wants to make a Deltarune game, but they're never gonna get the rights for that, and they do need to put food onthe table. Its understandable to want to try and make money off your work. But that doesn't really work with a "legally distinct" fanfic. In a sane world we'd have parody laws like Japan has for manga that legally allows the creation pf unofficial fan works and this wouldn't be an issue.

People trying to force fan work creators to turn their work into something original are another issue. They thing filing the serial numbers off and changing the names will make it more original, when it just makes it even more derivative.

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>>738624536
based and same, even dalv gets to be there.
I imagine at other times dalv just gets real solemn and quiet. after he's been dating bero for a while she knows what it is that bothers him

>>738623903
Well then maybe play off that. Even though he's an adult he still looks like a baby chick when put next to his mother. Could explain it in universe as coming from his father's side of the family.

>>738624671
that's really cute.

>>738624219
>yeah I figure it would have to develop like that. He doesn't strike me as a character like clover who's just going to walk underground, have a motherly monster say hello, and he just melts into the embrace 99 routes out of 100, but there's still a good dynamic that could develop.
I think Val would have respect for whoever has the patience to teach someone like him and who also shows him some paternal love, Val might not have had the best parents or parents at all, no one with something to lose goes so willingly to Mt Ebott, even if he doesn't fold immediately like Clover, he could appreciate something that was missing from his life.

>And even if it wasn't mercenary work directly, Luzma is effectively a contractor,
I didn't think of Luzma like that, but her having a lot of contacts makes sense, you don't get the reputation of being one of the best mercenaries if you don't fulfill a lot of contracts, one thing is sure, being a royal guard is out of the question for Val if Luzma becomes his legal guardian, unless he can take Gerson's spot and turn the organization into something much more formidable, but I don't see Val as the leader type.

>>738620968
Yeah but that doesn't mean they decry fanart as a whole being bad like they would fanfics

>>738624671
Yeah, I thinking about it like that.
Despite whatever happens in Racter's life, he'll always be his mama's little chick.

If the name on his customized underwear is anything to go off of, anyway.

>>738624671
>>738624706
Racter just has a lot of neoteny characteristics, he's the next evolution of his bird species

>>738615794
Oh yeah that's sharty work for sure. False reporting is a nightmare on Dicksword. It's best to go to a different platform like Stoat or Fluxer.
Also, they're keeping his account banned? Did he say faggot one too many times or something?

>>738624780
>I think Val would have respect for whoever has the patience to teach someone like him and who also shows him some paternal love, Val might not have had the best parents or parents at all, no one with something to lose goes so willingly to Mt Ebott, even if he doesn't fold immediately like Clover, he could appreciate something that was missing from his life.
yeah that seems fair to me. If he respects them, he's at an age where being more willing to receive that kind of attention makes sense.
>one thing is sure, being a royal guard is out of the question for Val if Luzma becomes his legal guardian, unless he can take Gerson's spot and turn the organization into something much more formidable, but I don't see Val as the leader type.
I could almost see him coming to bond with luzma over mocking the royal guard. If he came to respect her, he'd be more likely to take on a similar view that she has to them.

>>738624659
he always eyes the clover honey in the supply room

>>738624534
>I've honestly got no idea how interconnected the Naranja cast is going to be like
If Dalv managed to met with the rest of the cast then nothing is stopping UTN's cast from meeting each other eventually, but I'm still thinking of this big "club" where all the characters from the different fangames met each other

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>>738609284
I've dipped my toes into creating since I was young, but I never had the patience or the drive to seriously hone the skills. And now I feel like I'm always running out of time or some other dumb excuse while everyone else is doing something with their lives. It's a bad kind of feel, especially when my 22nd birthday is closing in on me. It's not even critical success and fame I want to be after, all that attention sounds like ass, but I want to atleast have done something here that I'm personally proud of, something I can point to and say "I did that!".

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>>738624061
Thanks, I really wish there was more of a scene for fan-music that wasn't just remixes the way there is for fanart. I'm working on a few fanalbums for some stuff I like, hopefully those might inspire others to do similar things.

>>738624135
>>738624149
Thank you for your listening, as I said nobody really likes this genre so it's not terribly surprising. Here's a fansong I did for Ridge Racer just to show that I am capable of other things.
https://voca.ro/1m97qwxGsi53

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>>738625013
>It's a bad kind of feel, especially when my 22nd birthday is closing in on me.
look, I get the feeling, and it happens to everyone when your life isn't where you want it to be and it feels like it's closing in on you in some strange way like you don't have time to reach your dreams.
I'm 34 and I just started doing the things I've wanted to my whole life just this year. Just from finally setting aside that fear that you can't do what you want to do and doing it, you'll start getting the feelings you seek much faster than you could imagine. The road to walk is still long, but you've got the time to live multiple lives within your own life still.

So get started and start doing what you want before your regret becomes "why didn't I do this sooner" like me.

>>738624906
>I could almost see him coming to bond with luzma over mocking the royal guard.
For some reason this gave me the image of Luzma and Val making fun of the royal guards, both of them begin to laugh and stop when they hear a third laugh near them, the camera pans to the side and Shu's laughing with them, which makes monster and child give him a cold stare until he begins laughing awkwardly and stops.

>>738625050
based, I know we mostly talk about ut/dr fancontent around here, but if you have other stuff in the future when we're having these fancontent threads, I personally welcome it.

>>738625013
As an anon who very recently turned 22, I'd say you've still got time.
I mean, developing any skill for literally anything takes time, and the time will pass no matter what you do, so you may as well do something with it, right?
I've been drawing for a little while now, and I've apparently made things people like, so I'd say you can definitely make contributions to the world even if you think it's too late.
I don't know what creative field you're thinking about, but I think you may as well give it a shot.

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>>738614024
They really can't help themselves, can't they?

>>738625013
>especially when my 22nd birthday is closing in on me.
I feel like I've been wasting most of my life, being too lazy to actually get into a creative skil despite wanting to do it since I began to thinkl, it was only when I played UTY that I decided I really wanted to create something, anything, now my only regret is not starting sooner, I was around your age when I started, you don't have to dedicate your entire free time to it, you just need to be consistent, what do you want to do? Art? Make some scribbles and watch a few tutorials or an online course from time to time, writing? every time you have an idea you'd like to see in an story write them down somewhere, and then try to write a story with those ideas, game dev? download a game engine and begin to play around with them now, if you have free time and a computer nothing is stopping you from starting your creative journey.

>>738624353
>YWNBAR
how can axis be so based?

>>738621101
Martlet dancing with Anon to the tune of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBwYm4hHJMU

>>738625050
Never played the game but that track sounds nice, and yeah, it's a shame how there's a disproportionately small number of music anons compared to other skills, in these threads we have more anons developing games than anons making music (we actually have only one)

>>738625745
that track is used for vile acts, not for wholesome stuff

>>738625824
Weren't there at least 2 anons making music for DRY?

>>738625898
I think you're right, but one of the anons that made music for it hasn't shown up here in quite a while, so I'm not sure if he still lurks these threads

>>738625889
okay then. Have it be Ceroba instead

>>738625824
Well I'm always down to do music for people's projects, is there any specific keywords often used in the OP other than 'fangame'? I didn't realize this was really more of an undertale yellow thread until I'd already posted. Also funny enough, the song I made that's gotten the most traction by far was an undertale arrangement where every comment was mentioning undertale yellow. So I suppose that's fitting.

>>738626357
we have a vrpg thread due to how many devanons we've got.

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>>738626357
we space out our threads to respect the board rules, usually once a week or so. generally welcoming general fangame discussion since /v/ needs more proper video game discussion on it. usually undertale yellow is put into it as a key word for people that want to hide the threads, but other times there isn't a specific word. We're a bit autistic mind you but overall we specialize in video games and video games discussion.

>>738625991
Well, I at least am one of them. In fact I'm working on something now, a boss theme for Ms. Syrup.

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>>738626593
nice, can't wait to hear it.

>>738626357
Like the other guy said we have a thread on /vrpg/ where the fangame devs post progress, all of devs are looking for musicians, currently the fangames with playable builds are Deltarune Yellow (also available on Gamejolt) and Undertale Naranja, the latter can be downloaded from the fangames archive if you want to give it a try.
https://rentry.org/mtt-fangames

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>>738625013
I'm about to reach 25 this month and I still haven't done shit

>>738626884
what's stopping you from doing shit?

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>>738626884
what I would give to be 25 again

>>738624469
>>738624534
Maybe the Naranja cast are like the Z fighters, and they all go their separate ways to train until Val returns.

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to the anon that wanted that Anon in place of clover green, are there any key points that you are looking for other than the end of the journey?
because I'm in that "alright time to erase everythign I've written to do this a different way" moment. and don't want to skip past something that you were really looking for if that makes sense.

>>738624843
Or a genetic dead end.

>>738627047
For the green idea of the anon and Ceroba reuniting after the anon gets resurrected?

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>>738626947
Likely undiagnosed mental illness
>>738626948
ALL YOU N33D TO PAY IS [97 Installments of $6.66] AND OF COURSE THE [blood of your first born]

>>738624797
I think that's the best way to think about their relationship. Ties in well with his desire to go home and the macro conflict of the monsters losing their home.

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>>738627205
I thought the green was supposed to be his journey underground and THEN the resurrection. I'm over here refreshing myself on the order of events that happened during yellow

>>738627252
if it's undiagnosed how do you know you have it?

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cool martlet cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9KuQQtk5Gk

>>738627275
Maybe there'll be a super-secret good ending to Oldentale where the war just gets called off right before any actual fighting starts and Racter just gets to go home and sleep in the rest of the day.

>>738627334
that's the issue, I have no clue but I just don't get how normies seem to go on with life while I can't

>>738625198
No anon, Shu is Val's Yamcha, which means he's cool. The overconfidence and jobbing just add to the Yamcha-ness.

>>738627157
He can't be a genetic dead end, he's the ancestor of every single bird monster we see on UT/DR, even those that shouldn't have any relation to Racter are somehow his descendants

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>>738627252
I believe in you anon. Start working towards your dreams before you're old like me and have to work towards your dreams while older.

>>738625013
Well then what are you waiting for? Start right now. I didn't get into drawing or writing until later in life. And I didn't get into game dev seriously until Oldentale.

>>738627428
Shu would be closer to Mr Satan if anything, Yamcha at least kicked Goku's ass one time and trained alongside Roshi, maybe Val can respect Shu's integrity or "fighting spirit" despite being a total jobber

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>>738627328
>I thought the green was supposed to be his journey underground and THEN the resurrection.
Well, that could also be cool.
The only idea I could really imagine for how that would work would maybe just be a green about how Ceroba and the anon got closer to each other during the time they had together, maybe during some alternate, longer journey through the Steamworks, but that's about all I can think of, which is why I mostly just thought about what things would be like post-resurrection.

>>738627419
can't you go to a psychologist or something if you think it's that bad?

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>>738627040
>Bedo to the rest of UTN's cast after Val's death

>>738627453
I wouldn't have that much faith in myself but thanks anon
>>738627640
I didn't enjoy my previous attempts at that, but I wanna try it again this year

>>738623990
>everyone but me famously hates
Don't worry anon, I liked your song.
It sounds exactly like something that would be in Evergrace, aka complete crap, but with a tasteful selection of instruments and a grasp of music theory. You should just tone down the dissonance just a bit because it gets really excessive by the middle. Even evergrace's most dissonant songs aren't this hard on the ears, and have a clean harmonious part of the song to make you relax before bringing in the dissonant sounds or random noises.

>>738626357
You can go to the Undertale fangames thread on /vrpg/, basically every dev posts there too. Also, can I hear that Undertale arrangement?

what is the doleful of undertale fangames

>>738627252
Then start making mentally ill art. Van Gough never let severe mental illness stop him.

>>738627410
The war'been going on for a while now by the start of Oldentale.

>>738626484
>>738626410
>>738626674
Thanks, I'll pop in there time to time, see if anyone needs music. is it relatively drama free? I like working on stuff with people but I can't stand forum drama.

>>738628395
thanks for the feedback. A chiller B-section I think would work quite well, I'll try and figure something out.

>>738628571
it's a ragtime version of fallen down, here ya go
https://voca.ro/1heabUIR8Ptv

>>738629112
>is it relatively drama free?
even after two and a half years, we are somehow one of the most sane threads on the site.

>>738627546
Mr Satan was still funny enough to be part of the team even if he sucked in a fight. I could see Val calling him their Mr Satan, and no one else getting it, except Shu, who's devastated by the title.

>>738629109
Well, maybe the war gets cancelled on the day Racter was enlisted to go and fight in it, sparing at least him, and anyone else after that day.
Not perfectly ideal, but good enough.

>>738628992
What is a doleful?

>>738628992
Undertale 2

>>738629112
>Thanks, I'll pop in there time to time, see if anyone needs music. is it relatively drama free? I like working on stuff with people but I can't stand forum drama.
there are a few trolls that randomly try to start drama in really awkward ways, but most of us have come to recognize it, and generally either ignore it or call the person in question an idiot and move on. Not really drama, but more like, a couple people that think we shouldn't be allowed to have these threads.
Like I said before also, we're a bit autistic so sometimes we get into autistic arguments, but that's not really drama and more over interpretations of things that we argue about, before eventually either conceding, or accepting that we're not going to convince eachother on and going about our days.
it's the passionate kind of autism, not the spiteful kind.

>>738629112
>is it relatively drama free?
as the other anon said, we have some "trolls" trying to start shit from time to time, but nowadays it rarely happens, the devs also don't want to work with the rest of the fandom precisely because they want to avoid unnecessary drama, which is why the only work with other anons

>>738629112
>. is it relatively drama free
Nta, but it is. The worst it gets is occasionally some Deltarune drama will wash over and somebody will start seething about yogurt or seething about seething about yogurt (don't ask, it really isn't worth explaining.), or the occasional shitposter who just hates Deltarune as a concept and comes in to seethe about it. No name fagging, grudge holding, resident schizos, or discords to worry about.

>it's a ragtime version of fallen down,
That's nice. I'm not a proper musician so I can't offer critique beyond saying it sounds nice. Also yeah its got UTY vibes.

Say, you ever worked with music trackers? Or are you more of a DAW guy?

>>738629206
This is what Racter prays for every night.

>>738629727
It's possible, it could happen.
Maybe the next best thing is Racter and the soul managing to put a stop to the war peacefully instead.

>>738629915
>asgore and the human leader both have a level of meta awareness (both of them are aware that some soul out there is capable of resetting)
>they both decide that (you) and racter are the biggest threat in the room and team up to take you out since you're a rogue actor and benefit neither side
>you pull out your "nuh uh uh" card and reset to before the fight.
>as these resets progress they realize that (you) are that soul and that they are going to die.
>they both decide that just letting (you) get a happy ending is the best possible course of action and that they're going to have to solve the war peacefully

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>>738629578
>people will start seething about yogurt
>don't ask

>>738630263
tl;dr:
some anon is too ashamed of being sincere about owning his OC, so he instead says that a kid on tumblr made it and refuses to provide any proof.
keep in mind that this is riding on the coattails of "ralsei is based off of a dead kid" so its a volatile subject in the first place.

>>738630263
it's a nothing burger. A genuine, absolute nothing burger. Back in august someone made up an original character, and faked a backstory about the creator, and it gets brought up once every few weeks and goes nowhere.

Think of it as a meme that /vg/ that unfortunately made its way here.
it's not worth arguing over because someone really wants to argue that the story is real, and someone else gets mad when that person argues that the story is real. It's not really "drama" but more a waste of time that happens occasionally.

Just one of those silly things. It's basically skub.

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>>738630435
I even downloaded the skub image just to post, and forgot to use it.

>>738630263
it's pretty much just an OC with some strange real/made up backstory about it being the main inspiration behind Ralsei, or something along those lines, it started on the Deltarune threads and then spread to here
Some anons go into a blind rage when they see him because of his connection to /vg/, others shitpost with the character to make those anons mad, there's no much reason to talk about the OC, it really is a nothing burger.

>>738629263
doleful deez

>>738630248
The true answer to peace: save-scumming.

>>738630413
"Ralsei is based on a dead kid"
Never heard of this
>>738630435
>>738630492
I don't see anything in the /vg/ thread about yogurt? Apparently he won a popularity contest on /vrpg/? Is this the seething that they were talking about?
I guess he's a fairly popular character with you guys then.

>>738630851
>I guess he's a fairly popular character with you guys then.
Not really, it's just that a handful of people are very, very loud about trying to turn it into a meme and everyone else doesn't have the energy to tell them to fuck off anymore.

>>738630851
>Apparently he won a popularity contest on /vrpg/?
He won a popularity contest against an equally infamous OC, it was a joke popularity poll to see which character was the "most liked" among the OCs that make people mad