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>>3975419I strongly believe in ADHD Kanako
>>3975419Friendly reminder to cease your weekly raid thread faggotry on /v/ and stay contained here in your pigsty.
>>3975430No, I don't think we will.
Congratulations to winners of the polls
>>3975435MY SMELL SENSORS HAVE DETECTED FOUL PLAY IN THE POLLING PROCESS.
>>3975446Cyber Shu?
>>3975419The MTT-Brand Scrimblo Popularity poll has closed and the results are here.https://strawpoll.com/BJnXV054PZv>DRY!Kanako - 11,63% (15 Votes)>Cole - 10,85% (14 Votes)>DRY!Sadie - 8,53% (11 Votes)>Val - 8,53% (11 Votes)>Quetzali - 7,75% (10 Votes)>Racter - 7,75% (10 Votes)>Gizmo - 6,2% (8 Votes)>BunBun - 6,2% (8 Votes)>Zaer - 5,43% (7 Votes)>Luzma - 5,43% (7 Votes)>Melody - 3,88% (5 Votes)>Wiki - 3,88% (5 Votes)>Kitsy - 3,88% (5 Votes)>Darkblade - 3,1% (4 Votes)>Reynault - 3,1% (4 Votes)>Bedo - 2,33% (3 Votes)>Bearing - 0,78% (1 Votes)>MC Toaster - 0,78% (1 Votes)The Forbidden Scrimblo Poll technically closed too, Yogurt won with one vote over Shu, but then mysteriously more votes were added to both participants, they are currently tied right now.https://strawpoll.com/BDyNz02E7yR
>>3975450MY HERO Val only lost the first tournament to keep himself humble. He'll be back in a future tournament to finally win.
>>3975450Very proud of my lovely fox husband for getting 4 votes.
>>3975453Four people love the reynaultMany more may like the him
I'm kind of surprised that Starlo had top votes on the other poll. I mean I like him and voted for him, but I just kind of assumed that there were a lot less fans of him these days.I also thought Axis would get more but I guess losing to the main group isn't too crazy.I wonder if the feistyj five would have gotten more votes if they were as one group. They're pretty neat and all.
>>3975458I will admit I slightly voted for him because I thought it'd be funny.
>>3975450Some thoughts about the results>DRY!Kanako>ColeCongratilations to DRYanon for his characters being the winners of the first popularity poll, I actually thought Kanako would lower on the list given some of the opinions showcased in these threads, that being said, Cole winning was no surprise to me, I even voted for him, in a way he represents these fangames, being something of an OC but at the same time an extension of Clover, the protagonist of the game that started it all.>DRY!SadieI knew Sadie was popular, specially with the jokes surrounding her family, but I didn't think she would place this high, people must have high expectations on her character, besides the fact that she's cute, which is always a bonus>ValTied with Sadie for the third place, I don't know why I thought a human (besides Cole) wouldn't make it this far, but I'm really glad to see my boy here, I imagine the potential for "Waku Waku" jokes helped him reach this spot + the main character bonus which always helps in popularity polls.>Quetzali One of the biggest surprises of this entire poll, I'm not sure what to say on this, I guess people do see a lot of potential in her, and again people seem to find her very cute.>RacterTied with Quetzali for the fourth spot. Surprising for a character that we know little about, but I would be lying if I said I expected him to be lower, he's a main character and the concept behind Racter is really cool as well, besides he's popular in the threads in general.>BunBunIf it weren't for all the discussions surrounding the fate that BunBun avoided, I would say I didn't expect her to be among the top 10.>ZaerAnother surprise to me, I don't see that many people bringing up Zaer in the threads, but that's fair since Naranja hasn't revealed too much about him yet.>LuzmaI wonder how much of Scrimblo Drawanon's art helped to boost Luzma's popularity, probably a lot
>>3975467>I wonder how much of Scrimblo Drawanon's art helped to boost Luzma's popularity, probably a lotAs flattering as the idea is, I only drew her "normally" about twice, so I doubt I had too much of an impact like that.
>>3975451>>3975450I wonder how these results will/would look like once/if the 3 games get finished, some characters that haven't been introduced yet would definitely displace some of the top spots.
>>3975469I don't know, you drawings did bring more attention to the character and some amount of discussion to her, I definitely think she would be lower if it weren't for you.
>>3975470Nothing saying we can't run the poll again then.
>>3975473I definitely want this to become a yearly thing, or maybe once all the games get a new major release.
>>3975472Well, I suppose it's possible the less normal images I did of her have had something of an effect on her popularity also.I have seen a number of posts associating Luzma with instant-loss since then.
>we didn't reach 3500 postsIts over...
>>3975450>>3975453I though Reynault would be way higher, like top 5 at the very least, yet at one point he was below Darkblade in votes (a character that doesn't get brought often), I really believed Reynault might have become the most popular OC outside of DRY, due to the discussions, art and greens surrounding him
>>3975479I think he's neat but I just couldn't justify voting for him myself. Since we could vote for as many characters as we wanted on that poll, to avoid just voting for every single character I had to draw a line somewhere.
>>3975479>I really believed Reynault might have become the most popular OC outside of DRY, due to the discussions, art and greens surrounding himOkay, that one might actually be because of me.I did those shitposts of him, I did the first lewd of him, and every green of him that currently exists was either directly requested by me or otherwise made for me.I talk about him a lot, and that might lead to him appearing more popular than he really actually is.For now, anyway.
>>3975480Me too, I think he's alright but from Oldetale I voted for Racter, Wiki and Darkblade.
>>3975482yeah that pretty much mirrors me. Darkblade doesn't get brought up as much, but he's entertaining. The hot topic royal decree
>>3975467Val is cool. Most of the orange soul "fangames" out there have the most generic 'watch out it's a rough and tough person of some sort!' main character. Val is interesting while still having enough blank information for players to get invested in. Quetzali was fun in the demo, and earned being a secondary thread darling.Luzma is cool, and we have just enough information of her to let our thoughts go wild. Plus as you said, that art.I'm honestly surprised Zaer didn't get more, but I guess when not actually playing the demo, people are too busy thinking of everything else.For DRY characters, while I think there's been a string of people expressing their critique, just as many people, if not more, have already said that they like what they're seeing, if maybe in less words. Dry!nako is cute, Dry Cole is cool.Racter is neat. If Oldentale really comes about, I think he'll get a lot more votes in general.Not counting dreemurr reborn, or some other kind of asriel swap, you don't see monster protags often
>>3975483So what would the Underground look like under Darkblade? I knoww for a fact Carol would be in some kind of high ranking position since she was a katana edgelord herself when she was younger, and does still exist in the UT universe.
I finally got to play Deltarune Yellow's chapter 2It seems like next chapter is going to have Melody, she's my favorite character, can't get enough of this violent little shitAlso it really is refreshing to have some original music for the game.A few things though:I feel like the party members commonly don't have anything to say in the rooms for Chapter 2? I remember Kanako always had something to talk about in Chapter 1 but now it's commonly just "c'mon keep moving".Because of that I kinda stopped talking to them as often and missed the secret boss entirely. I feel like the elevator interior should be made to look more broken to encourage someone to talk to Kanako about it, I didn't even notice it was supposed to be broken.Is there no storage at all for the Fury route? Since I don't have the shopkeeper in the Dark Jail, I flat out can't store anything. My inventory is kinda becoming a mess and I'm going to have to hold onto this King's Feast for the whole game now.[continued]
>>3975508Axis feels like he has a strange gameplay design for a game like Undertale. Besides his healing shower and siren, he's mainly designed around dealing damage. His fire attack, buffing your ATK, lowering the enemy's DEF, he's meant to help you defeat the enemies and that was helpful for the Fury route, but you're supposed to be sparing these guys right? I don't think the ending really changed if you were sparing or attacking the regular mooks in Chapter 2, but it did in Chapter 1 so I'm not really making use of Axis' abilities that much. I feel like he should have some more supportive spells like maybe something that boosts his DEF which would then synergize with using blaring siren after that.With the Dark route where you give up your light to get the Dark Shot, it seems like it's a real gun in the Light World, being called the "Black Gun" compared to how it's normally a toy gun. I don't know the whole situation behind the strange creatures during the Light World fight in Sadie's house, but if you start shooting them with a real gun in Sadie's house, I would've expected things to play out different. Maybe you just blast a hole in them and Sadie immediately rushes in after hearing gunfire in her house.This chapter was a whole lot of fun, the Fury route is getting pretty interesting too, especially with how Kanako almost insists you go on a date with her, she's starting to overpower our decisions. Also it honestly felt a little sad how in the normal route, Cole proves himself to Chujin and Chujin respects him, but that never really gets a chance to come up in Fury, so he still doesn't like Cole very much
>>3975504I think an important thing would be the medieval fashion police would be in place, though it would have an edgy name like>The Dark lords villifiersDarkblade wouldn't be using the same motivations for escaping the underground because he'd have some grungy >"Monsterkind will rule from the dark, an echo of humanities sins that will one day spill forth and consume the earth in eternal blackest night"Monsters would write a lot of edgy poems of the worst kind. They'd invent youtube a lot faster so that they could post AMVs. If a human fell down, they wouldn't attack them to take their soul (for the barrier) but instead because aura farming and saying shit like >"The darkness of your soul will be my domain"would get them mad cred
>>3975504Luzma would be the Hell Knights's (fromely royal guard) supreme overlord, either that or she would be Darkblade's archnemesis, they don't kill each other because that would make the underground a more boring place
>>3975510An entire society of aura farmers sounds hilarious. Would they have AMVs on MTV before they got internet? What would be the penalty for dressing like a poser?Also they'd defienelty try to pretend they just like killing or enjoy bloodshed when they fight you, and totally aren't just doing it for your soul.
>>3975511>they don't kill each other because that would make the underground a more boring place(they actually just can't stand the thought of actually murdering someone in cold blood)
>>3975515some of them would genuinely not even be trying to get your soul for the sake of it, and be more concerned with how badass having two souls would be for their edge factor. Thinking that it would raise them up in the ranks (not even considering how it would make them the most powerful monster)"twin souls, one faces the light, and the other eternally in the dark. Am I to be forever trapped by... THESE BONDS OF BLOOD?" >the human is just watching this and cringing out of his fucking mind>Would they have AMVs on MTV before they got internet?They'd have live action reenactments of famous plays but only the most edgy moments of those plays.A human might be able to convince a monster to leave them alone because >Hey, wouldn't being friends... with the ENEMY be super dark and cool?as the monster ponders the idea, TORN BETWEEN TWO SIDES, bonds of blood so on so forth.>What would be the penalty for dressing like a poser?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7BwWkjU8ZE
>>3975467>I wonder how much of Scrimblo Drawanon's art helped to boost Luzma's popularity, probably a lotActually, how popular was she before?I remember being somewhat surprised that no one had drawn her (as well as Quetzali and Bedo) lactating despite how often the various "-ilk" jokes were being thrown around, but there aren't that many original characters in these threads and I know she's been around for a while now, so she can't have been particularly unpopular/unknown, right?
I got a friend of mine who is really into Undertale Yellow and told him about DRY, and he considered giving it a try, but I haven't told him that the game was made by some anons hereWould it be a good idea that I also tell him about these threads and how there are multiple fangames in development in here?
>>3975539See how he reacts after playing DRY first.
>>3975539absolutely not.if someone isnt already on a chan site then its very likely they'll react poorly. most people still see this place as pure evil.
>>3975539I think that'd entirely depend on if the devs here would be okay with it.
>>3975518>some of them would genuinely not even be trying to get your soul for the sake of it, and be more concerned with how badass having two souls would be for their edge factor.Some of them are genuinely hoping it possesses them so they can get a cool crazy psychopath form, like Ichigo in Bleach. Others just think the idea of being "the soul stealing monster" sounds cool. Another one wants to try and trap it in a sword so he can have a cool living sword that thirsts for blood. And another just wants to wear it as a fashion accessory. One of them has a persona as "the psycho freak who loves battle more than his own life" and when a human arrives in the underground, that unfortunately for him means he *HAS TO* fight them to maintain his image.And of course the captain of the Shades of Death (formerly the Royal Guard) is just obsessed with heart shaped objects.>Am I to be forever trapped by... THESE BONDS OF BLOOD?"Is that reference to something?>They'd have live action reenactments of famous plays but only the most edgy moments of those plays.Their TV is nothing but neckbeards and fedora tippers doing live action anime with really bad special effects, and music video edits of those tv shows.>as the monster ponders the idea, TORN BETWEEN TWO SIDES, bonds of blood so on so forth.He's the resident contrarian, he hates monsters because of his 25 page tragic backstory that he definetly didn't make up to impress a girl in highschool.>The pitI like to imagine you get thrown in at some point while playing, its hyped up like that prison pit in The Dark Knight Rises, but then you fall in and its a ball pit. The idea being the "cringe" is the punishment.
>>3975539tell him mine is the best
>>3975539heed this advice>>3975542Even though some of the discussion and ideas I've seen outside of 4chan are, in my own opinion significantly worse that what we get up to here (on average at least), you're just asking for trouble.
>>3975539Just tell him some internet friends of yours made it. Don't specify where.
>>3975511Her brand of edgy probably doesn't gel with his. He calls her the worst insult its possible to give a monster in the Shadow Empire, cringe and she responds by wearing it like a badge of honor. And while Darkblade hates to admit it, that response is actually really cool.
>>3975547>>Am I to be forever trapped by... THESE BONDS OF BLOOD?">Is that reference to something?Just the kind of thing an edgelord chuuni would say. The kind of thing you'd expect an edgy anime fan in the 2000's to write thinking it unironically went hard as fuck.>ball pitthere's a monster at the top from where you got thrown in still giving edgy one liners about suffering for crossing the black lord, all the while you're walking your way easily out of the pit. You pass by a monster that is "suffering" in the pit talking about how he must survive this cruel fate.>that unfortunately for him means he *HAS TO* fight them to maintain his image.just internally (visible text to the player) "fuuuuuuuuck I don't actually want to fight this guy he looks super strong">He's the resident contrarian, he hates monsters because of his 25 page tragic backstory that he definetly didn't make up to impress a girl in highschool.When he was telling her his backstory he made sure to fit in some kind of >but you... could you be the one to fill my dark soul with... no, it couldn't bein order to work her into his self fic.
>>3975558>. The kind of thing you'd expect an edgy anime fan in the 2000's to write thinking it unironically went hard as fuck.I imagine Darkblade will occasionally give royal decrees that are just Jaiden Smith twitter tier quotes like "How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?">. You pass by a monster that is "suffering" in the pit talking about how he must survive this cruel fate.He's probably down there lamenting how he's gonna get made fun of forever>just internally (visible text to the player) "fuuuuuuuuck I don't actually want to fight this guy he looks super strong""Haha, I'm gonna enjoy the taste of your blood." (Of all the people he could meet, why did it have to be me?)>in order to work her into his self fic.and then he in turn worked her turning him down into his backstory
>>3975566>>in order to work her into his self fic.>and then he in turn worked her turning him down into his backstoryHe got turned down because another monster had a 100 page backstory that was way cooler than his. He had to study the ways of darkblade and become stronger in order to win the girl.>"Haha, I'm gonna enjoy the taste of your blood." (Of all the people he could meet, why did it have to be me?)I can genuinely see something like this happening in a game.>I imagine Darkblade will occasionally give royal decrees that are just Jaiden Smith twitter tier quotes like "How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?"The anime "slayers" washes down to the underground and gets brought to Darkblade immediately (one of his decrees was that he gets first dibs- I mean he bears the responsibility of witnessing the human artifacts true power first). He makes a decree one day that's just random excerpts from the dragon slave incantation.He spares the masses the true power of the giga slave...
>>3975570>He had to study the ways of darkblade and become stronger in order to win the girl.I think girls actually prefer shorter men in the shadow kingdom because Darkblade is definition of male beauty.>I can genuinely see something like this happening in a game.Yeah, honestly if Darkblade didn't believe his own hype so much I'd probably give him a line like that in Oldentale. As it is, maybe I can incorporate some Darkblade orbiters as enemies that do stuff like that, but aren't as "cool" as him. Oh and as for Darkfel or whatever this would be called, maybe Burgerpants says something like that, and in this timeline he's part of the Shades of Death because he can do really convincing crazy battle psycho faces.>The anime "slayers"I actually haven't seen that one. Is it required reading for edgekino?
>>3975430friendly reminder to kill yourself, nigger
>>3975556She begins to call herself "Underground's strongest cringelord" the one that's enemy of all of those too insecure to embrace the edgyness, Darkblade might be the sharpest blade, but he's an sword made of fragile iron than can break with a single well placed jab
>>3975575>I actually haven't seen that one. Is it required reading for edgekino?Slayers itself isn't terribly edgy, but the lore, magic system and villains are very edgy (and the lore and magic system is pretty well thought out), and the main character is a sorceress who exclusively specializes in the edgiest black magic.Black magic in the setting draws from the power of demons, who can't be hurt by their own, or the magic of a lesser demon than them.All magic has incantations that are the stuff of chuuni dreams, and The dragon slave (in setting, originally named dragon slayer but the name was distorted over time) draws from the power of "the" dark lord and has a delightfully edgy incantation that Darkblade would absolutely start speaking if anyone ever challenged him, scaring them away with his (potential) might."Darkness beyond twilightCrimson beyond blood that flowsBuried in the stream of time is where your power growsI pledge myself to conquer all the foes who standbefore the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy handLet the fools who stand before me be destroyedby the power you and I possess..."Alternatively he may use the "forbidden incantation of the dark lord of chaos. an incantation so powerful, it may destroy the world if I have to use it. But... I promised I'd never break the seal on THAT again".
>>3975575>I think girls actually prefer shorter men in the shadow kingdom because Darkblade is definition of male beauty.that's funny, Darkblade after several generations has established himself as "the ideal" in this kingdom>Darkblade orbiters as enemies that do stuff like thatthe thought of a character in a non darkblade kingdom who's striving to be as cool as possible in darkblades eyes is funny.>and in this timeline he's part of the Shades of Death because he can do really convincing crazy battle psycho faces.all his nervous faces are mistaken for battle faces so he just leans into it.
>>3975535>Actually, how popular was she before?Not a lot, the biggest relevance she had was that conversation about fire elemental breast milk>I remember being somewhat surprised that no one had drawn her (as well as Quetzali and Bedo) lactating despite how often the various "-ilk" jokes were being thrown aroundThere aren't that many drawanons here, some of them don't draw lewds and others mostly draw UTY characters.>but there aren't that many original characters in these threads and I know she's been around for a while now, so she can't have been particularly unpopular/unknown, right?She was only known by the threads regulars, but there was barely any information of the girls until you asked.
someone's trying a thread but its opening with anme and taunting the usual fag so its probably going to crash and burn.
>>3975594I'd leave that thread alone, it sounds like bait.
>>3975593>Not a lot, the biggest relevance she had was that conversation about fire elemental breast milkHuh. Wonder what prompted that to begin with.>She was only known by the threads regulars, but there was barely any information of the girls until you asked.So you're telling me the first major information reveal about Luzma and Bedo was in response to me trying to gather information on how either of them would react to being asked for their breastmilk?I dunno what to make of that.
>>3975598>Huh. Wonder what prompted that to begin with.I don't remember, think someone posted an image of Luzma and then the question of "what does fire girl milk tastes like?" was made>So you're telling me the first major information reveal about Luzma and Bedo was in response to me trying to gather information on how either of them would react to being asked for their breastmilk?Yes, I mean, I don't remember anyone asking me more about their personalities, and I felt like the chance to reveal more about them never ppopped out before.>I dunno what to make of that.Look on the bright side, you got to met a scrimblo you seem to really like, and I got the chance to talk about my characters.
>>3975600>I don't remember, think someone posted an image of Luzma and then the question of "what does fire girl milk tastes like?" was madeGuess some things are just inevitable.>Yes, I mean, I don't remember anyone asking me more about their personalities, and I felt like the chance to reveal more about them never ppopped out before.Man, really?That kinda sucks. I mean, people around here seem to really like UTN, I'd have figured more people would be curious to learn about your characters and ideas, ask questions about them.I mean, it still could've been for a more normal purpose on my end, but really, I'm just surprised no one else asked before I did.Damn.>Look on the bright side, you got to met a scrimblo you seem to really like, and I got the chance to talk about my characters.True, I guess we did both get something out of it at least.I'll probably ask more questions in the future once I actually have more time to draw (I might ask for more information about Bedo in particular, since she has less information about her than Luzma does now), even though I'll probably have to exercise some restraint so I don't just start asking how your characters would act in increasingly weird and specific scenarios.
>>3975604>>3975600>Yes, I mean, I don't remember anyone asking me more about their personalities, and I felt like the chance to reveal more about them never ppopped out before.honestly I thought someone had asked and you said that you didn't want to share too much before they were in the game.I may have just wildly misjudged said conversation or misunderstood what was going on at the time but I was surprised when you actually started giving luzma details recently.
>>3975604>That kinda sucks. I mean, people around here seem to really like UTN, I'd have figured more people would be curious to learn about your characters and ideas, ask questions about them.>I mean, it still could've been for a more normal purpose on my end, but really, I'm just surprised no one else asked before I did.>>3975605>honestly I thought someone had asked and you said that you didn't want to share too much before they were in the game.I might be misremembering, but I don't think there was an instance of someone directly asking about them, I did say I didn't want to reveal too much information but I'm pretty sure it was under a different context, in any case it could just be that now I feel more confident about my writing, I don't think it's great but I try to improve whenever I see the chance.>I'll probably ask more questions in the future once I actually have more time to draw (I might ask for more information about Bedo in particular, since she has less information about her than Luzma does now), I'm open to questions, even if I can get an idea of why you might be asking them in the first place.
>>3975607>I did say I didn't want to reveal too much information but I'm pretty sure it was under a different context,I may have just seen that and, despite practically vibrating with pure needtoknow energy, held off. For what it's worth, while It's good that there is going to be things we wont learn to later, I've enjoyed the bits of information we have so far.
>>3975607>I'm open to questions, even if I can get an idea of why you might be asking them in the first place.Well, I'll try and keep things broad and not ask anything that's just too directly weird.So, in the description you gave me for Luzma, you said that she'd probably laugh if she was asked out by someone, even if she was into them, but how would Bedo react in the same situation, being asked out by someone?
>picking fights with the psychocome on anon, just ignore him.
>>3975614What is this referring to?
>>3975615someone made a /v/ thread today (for some reason) and is just getting into a slugfest with the idiot retard who always complains about our threads.
>>3975616>someone went to spam /v/ with a pointless thread that need not exist because all discussion is contained here and regularly goes to the multiple thousands of posts before the threads archive>someone is (correctly) complaining about itStay in here in your pigpen.
>>3975619Nah.
>>3975607Oh, also, while I don't think I have too terribly many questions right this minute, I'm sure I'll have more whenever I have more time to draw and think about your characters at some point.Bedo isn't exactly my type, from what I've seen of her, but she is cute, so I can imagine I'll probably do more stuff with her than just the lactation drawing I said I'd do.
Postan that image sig made the other night since it was super late when he posted it.
>>3975608>I may have just seen that and, despite practically vibrating with pure needtoknow energy, held offMan, maybe I just worded that poorly and it could be interpreted as me not wanting to reveal anything about the game.>I've enjoyed the bits of information we have so far.And I've enjoyed the discussions that spawned from them.>>3975612>So, in the description you gave me for Luzma, you said that she'd probably laugh if she was asked out by someone, even if she was into them, but how would Bedo react in the same situation, being asked out by someone?Asuming it's someone who's close to her, I imagine at first she would dismiss it saying something like "if this is a joke, it isn't funny", if that person insisted she might reply with a "really?" or "..why?" with genuine bewilderment, she's not shy, just crass and lacks social skills, if there was actual romantic tension forming in the relationship, she didn't notice.
>>3975629>Zartlet wearing pantsSig has an impostor running about
>>3975630>Asuming it's someone who's close to her, I imagine at first she would dismiss it saying something like "if this is a joke, it isn't funny", if that person insisted she might reply with a "really?" or "..why?" with genuine bewilderment, she's not shy, just crass and lacks social skills, if there was actual romantic tension forming in the relationship, she didn't notice.Huh, interesting.If she responds with genuine confusion, would that preclude her from reciprocating any romantic feelings towards her, or would she only not get it at first?Are there any situations where she'd be flustered at all?How would she react to someone being a bit more forward with her, assuming she was actually into them?
>>3975630>Man, maybe I just worded that poorly and it could be interpreted as me not wanting to reveal anything about the game.NTA, but I dunno, I think I was there for the post you were talking about, and I didn't get the impression that you didn't want to talk about your game at all, but I guess I might've been the odd one out.
>>3975640>>3975630I'm sure it was just me misreading the room. I figured something in my head and didn't want to be a pest even if I was interested in the characters.I now really enjoy the idea of Luzmas anon being a team rocket James and them just having "outbursts" in public.>>3975630>"if this is a joke, it isn't funny"I wonder if she'd be able to pick up on the Anon losing his nerve to continue the confession after that. Like if he got nervous and just "oh... you know me, such a jokester." how oblivious would she be
>>3975619I'm pretty sure if you put any /v/ thread on here it'd reach 3000 posts easily. Just look at how the pinned threads from a little while ago reached over 10k.
>>3975645I can only imagine how many posts that cave story rap thread would have gotten if it was normal stickied instead of reverse stickied.
>>3975636>If she responds with genuine confusion, would that preclude her from reciprocating any romantic feelings towards her, or would she only not get it at first?She would not get it at first, like I say, she's not the best at social skills, as for the romantic feelings, the confusion would come from not expecting things to go this way, but if she were interested in the person asking her out, she'd try (and probably fail) at reciprocating those feelings, if it wasn't clear she has nothing close to experience when it comes to love.>Are there any situations where she'd be flustered at all?Yes, but she would probably find most public affection displays to be corny, even something as simple as hand holding would get her flustered, less from being shy and more because she didn't prepare for the situation, she's the kind of person who has to plan things before doing them (at least when it comes to social interactions).>How would she react to someone being a bit more forward with her, assuming she was actually into them?Like going for a kiss? She'd get flustered, taken aback and a bit annoyed if it was in public, but she wouldn't reject it, in private it would be the same but just less annoyed, she might not like surprises but she's not against affection.With time the her reaction might change and could get more open about this stuff, but it would take some time.
>>3975643>I wonder if she'd be able to pick up on the Anon losing his nerve to continue the confession after that. Like if he got nervous and just "oh... you know me, such a jokester." how oblivious would she beIf the anon was too nervous, I imagine she'd get the clue, and if she's into him, that would put both on them into an awkward situation, just staring at the walls or ceilings pretending that didn't happen until one decides to bring up the topic again.
>>3975477Considering about half of that thread was either off-topic discussion, hornyposting, pointless arguments between the same two retards again, and fucking therapy-speak...good riddance.
Imagine being so obsessed with the /v/ threads that they spend most of their time searching for utdr threads and then complaining in them endlessly than actually using the other /v/ threads
>>3975653>implying that hornyposting about martlet or ceroba or whatever other deltarune fangames are there is a bad thingNgmi
>>3975653compared to the last 3k thread it had a much better ratio of actual discussion>>3975654that has always been funny to me, he complains a lot but he is the one that spends his time lurking and searching for things he actively hates
>>3975653Most of that stuff was good, the devs were involved in some of those discussions too.>pointless arguments between the same two retards again,Actually it was 3 retards this time, and two of them are devs.
>>3975650>she's the kind of person who has to plan things before doing them (at least when it comes to social interactions).Ah, she's autistic.Yeah, I think people are gonna like her when they see more of her, easy.Speaking seriously though, this all seems like pretty good characterization.Nothing that'll get me in particular going crazy over her, but still, I think she'll be well liked.>she might not like surprises but she's not against affection.>With time the her reaction might change and could get more open about this stuff, but it would take some time.I see.this will likely come in handy for when I get around to fulfilling my promise, as well as for something else I may want to do with her.Like I said though, I probably won't go as crazy for her as I did with Luzma, so she might not see as much attention from me in particular.
>>3975653>pointless arguments between the same two retards againdidn't happen>hornypostinghas been here since the threads were first a thing, and now it's much much more controlled.>off-topic discussionthread was almost entirely on topic>fucking therapy-speakthere was some of that, but well, things happen.>>3975659the arguing was much less pointless than it was in the last 3k post thread, and again it was vastly more on topic.
>>3975653Eh, I think that was all just another blip.Oldentale anon said he'd never gone as crazy over another character as he had for Bun Bun, so hopefully his head'll be screwed on a bit straighter for the foreseeable future.
>>3975657>he complains a lot but he is the one that spends his time lurking and searching for things he actively hatesHonestly that guy kinda baffles me, like does he know that telling a human not to do something will make them want to do it to spite them like……… does he even understand human nature, or does he WANT us to do the opposite of what he says.
>>3975589>Darkblade after several generations has established himself as "the ideal" in this kingdomIf he's in charge, its only natural people would put him on a pedestal, one which he's more than happy to stand on while he aura farms. I think that kind of scenario may be a dream come true to him.>all his nervous faces are mistaken for battle faces so he just leans into it.I'm kinda imagining him falsely assuming the role of someone like Kenpachi from Bleach. And he only does it because when he first showed up to the tryouts he got really scared and started making those really weird faces while trying to force himself to act cool, which caused them to think he was actually battle hungry maniac. Darkblade thought that was badass and hired him on the spot.>>3975587Kinda reminds me of the activation commands from Bleach where people would tell their sword to scream or cry or roar or something like that to make them release their power
>>3975661>didn't happennta but don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining
>>3975653You really had to go and bring all that up so people would start arguing about it, huh?
>>3975594What was it? I assume it was trash, but I'd like to know specifically what it said.
>>3975665>Kinda reminds me of the activation commands from Bleach where people would tell their sword to scream or cry or roar or something like that to make them release their powerI can see that, but it's also definitely inspired by western fantasy where spells classically have verbal and somatic components, but I think a lot of japanese creatives like that stuff so there's probably a connection that can be drawn between it.>I think that kind of scenario may be a dream come true to him.oldenfell is all a dream in darkblades head>which caused them to think he was actually battle hungry maniac. Darkblade thought that was badass and hired him on the spot.at the end of the day, it's a kingdom where the biggest bullshitters, accidental or intentional prosper the most.
>>3975666considering the vast majority of the conversation in the thread was productive discussion, no I'll stick to what I'm saying.
>>3975660>Ah, she's autistic.That's a way to put it, she's like on the opposite side of the spectrum compared to most monsters.>Speaking seriously though, this all seems like pretty good characterization.I'm glad youŕe enjoying the characters so far, I still haven't shown what I consider to be my third favorite character, but that's because I think writing them will take more effort than the others, writing witty characters is a challenge all on itself.
>>3975458I feel like it can’t be accurate because I see even less people talking about him than Chujin. Maybe a vocal minority? Starlo is my favorite character, and I question why I even come here other than the fact that I do appreciate Ceroba and Chujin. I voted for Starlo and Chujin in that poll despite Ceroba being my 2nd favorite because I thought everyone would pick her. I believe another anon did the same as wellI wouldn’t be surprised if /utg/ liked Starlo the best though considering the number of fags there. The rare time someone brings up UTY there, someone calls Starlo “one of the good ones” and trash on the furries
>>3975653>Therapy-speakCitation needed
>>3975673I'm pretty sure he's talking about all the stuff with anon and BunBun
>>3975673he's probably whining about people encouraging that anon to work through his issues rather than calling him a faggot or however he'd prefer it go down. That said I don't really care because there was a lot of good discussion in that thread.
>>3975671>That's a way to put it, she's like on the opposite side of the spectrum compared to most monsters.I don't have much to immediately say about that, but that is interesting.>I'm glad youŕe enjoying the characters so farYeah, they've all been pretty good from what I've seen, even the ones that don't speak to darker desires within the cavernous pit I have instead of a soul.>I still haven't shown what I consider to be my third favorite characterWho are the first two?Wait, it's Val and Quetzali, right?How close am I?>but that's because I think writing them will take more effort than the others, writing witty characters is a challenge all on itself.Well writing is certainly difficult, but however your writing abilities were before, I'd say they're pretty decent now, especially when it comes to making characters people like, so I'm certain people here would love to see this character you speak of as soon as you're willing to show them off.
>>3975652cute. I look forward to getting a better grasp on how someone like her would speak. I don't think I remember to save the one dialogue box you posted of her.I'm imagining Anon first losing his nerve when she tells him it's a bad joke, but then pushing himself forward to be a bit more confident a bit later.She's a neet with fighting skills of some sort isn't she?
>>3975672>Starlo is my favorite character, and I question why I even come here other than the fact that I do appreciate Ceroba and Chujinnever considered being the change you want to see?>/utg/ Ah I see.
>>3975579She probably takes on a more intentionally silly anime hero style persona to fuck with him. Something closer to Goku maybe.
>>3975676>How close am I?You got one right.>Well writing is certainly difficult, but however your writing abilities were before, I'd say they're pretty decent now, especially when it comes to making characters people like, so I'm certain people here would love to see this character you speak of as soon as you're willing to show them off.I consider dialogue to be my weakest point, I'm taking notes, trying to analyze similar characters to the ones I'm making and I intend to write that short story as a way to improve on this, I still don't feel confident enough to reveal this Scrimblo yet, and it probably won't happen until you see them in Ofshor AKA the second area>>3975677>cute. I look forward to getting a better grasp on how someone like her would speak. I don't think I remember to save the one dialogue box you posted of her.pic related>She's a neet with fighting skills of some sort isn't she?She used to practice MMA (Mixed Magic Arts), emphasis on "used to", the only fighting skills she uses in her daily life are her skills on fighting games.
>>3975680>You got one right.Ah, damn.So, who are your two favorite then?>I still don't feel confident enough to reveal this Scrimblo yetWell, we'll be waiting.Oh, by the way, you've said she used to actually train with martial arts, but has since quit.What would you say her general physique is?Her sprites make her look short and a bit fat, but I'm asking just in case I'm getting that wrong.
>>3975419These threads became too parasocial for their own good.I wasn’t going to make this post until I found out that the last thread went over 3000+ replies. I’m not some schizo who thinks these threads are ‘raids’ or anything, but they’ve definitely gone off track and regulars have gotten too attached to them.Mind you, they were never supposed to be like this. The original UTY threads were for devanons to occasionally pot updates every few days and anons would reply to them. Obviously that changed, but the threads were still decent for a while when it was only one reply per day.I’m wondering now if it’s partially OP’s fault, since the first post has essentially bee the same for years which could enable conformity. Either way, the current threads have turned into a circlejerk of autism where the same anons will argue endlessly over anything and say nothing.If you don’t have anything of value to say about UTY, or UT fangames, just don’t post. Unironically touch grass, or find some other thread to argue over.
>>3975679Alternatively she could go with a justice obsessed edgelord to become the apex predator among the other edgelords."I am the scythe that reaps the sins of this world, I am the coldest flame that never extinguishes, I am the only cleansing light in this wretched world, you stand before Luzma! The Flame of Judgement!"
Reminder to all fox lovers. This is what you come home to.https://x.com/ArcticFoxxo/status/2048570399286603881?s=20
>>3975683anon a dev is discussing stuff literally right now
>>3975680ok I think that helps me see the crass side. If she stopped someone (val assumably maybe) from acting too much like a badass, then I'm assuming she has some degree of caring side, even if it's represented roughly.I'm shaping up a vision of how she may handle a few moments, though I could just be wandering off into the bushes here.
>>3975683This thread has been pretty consistent fangame discussion so far, we have people talking with one of the devs about their characters and writing, shut the hell up.
>>3975653I already told you to kill yourself or leave, modelfag
>>3975686Doesn’t excuse the 3000+ posts from last thread, and judging by the rate posts are being made it seems this one will be the same.
>>3975683Everything you're saying is pretty much nonsense that disregards how much these threads resemble old /v/ casual discussion, and how similar in scope they are to the older uty threads.the threads aren't off track, the topics are largely the same "kind" though we come up with new ideas constantly. you're the same kind of whiny poster we had in 2024 that complained about OC that wasn't to your liking, and got told to fuck off by devanons back then as well.>parasocialyou clearly don't even know what you're talking about.Artfagging, devfagging, writefagging, musicfagging and theoryfagging is central to what 4chan as a website was founded on.
>>3975683>>3975691Chill the hell out man, when the devs are here to share progress we sit down and listen, and when they’re not we just fuck around, it’s all perfectly reasonable behavior.
>>3975681>So, who are your two favorite then?Sorry anon, that's something I don't want to reveal to not cause too many expectations, I guess you'll have to wait until I release the full game (some time before the heat death of the universe) if you want to know the answer.>What would you say her general physique is?>Her sprites make her look short and a bit fat, but I'm asking just in case I'm getting that wrong.You kind of got the right idea, I used Alphys and Sans as references for her height, she's the shortest character in the main cast.>>3975687>ok I think that helps me see the crass side. If she stopped someone (val assumably maybe) from acting too much like a badass, then I'm assuming she has some degree of caring side, even if it's represented roughly.You got some of that right, she's not gonna let someone just kill themselves if she can avoid it, if they insists too much and doesn't particular care about that person then things would go differently.
>>3975691People were literally talking about fangames before you idiots started bitching about how the last thread being at 3000+ posts signified the end of days, just shut the fuck up already.
>>3975691most of those posts were related to the games and the massive discussions were between devs as well, hell in this very thread we have two devs openly talking about their characters, you can't get that much more on topic.
>>3975694>Sorry anon, that's something I don't want to reveal to not cause too many expectationsDamnit.Well, at least I got one of them, apparently.>I guess you'll have to wait until I release the full game (some time before the heat death of the universe) if you want to know the answer.Better not take that long, I'll be out of town around then.>You kind of got the right idea, I used Alphys and Sans as references for her height, she's the shortest character in the main cast.Nice to see the UTN women having a good array of body types, it's good variety.Also I like her potentially being squishy and having a good belly to play with.
>>3975694>You got some of that right, she's not gonna let someone just kill themselves if she can avoid it, if they insists too much and doesn't particular care about that person then things would go differently.hmm, I may try to bastardize the character in some way or another if an idea comes to me. I've got sort of a vision in mind As a side note, Sounds like Val would enjoy playing fighting games with her.
>>3975663He probably just enjoys the negativity. Either that or is too mad about it to help himself.
>>3975666nta, but it wasn't "the same two retards" because it was way more than two people, and most of that discussion had a point.
>>3975700>hmm, I may try to bastardize the character in some way or another if an idea comes to me. I've got sort of a vision in mindHuh, maybe Naranjadev's right, I asked about his characters and suddenly there's more interest in them.Neat.
>>3975703I've been interested in them for a while, but seeing him answer your questions gave me enough hope to start dwelling on the characters again.
>>3975695Make me, faggot
>>3975705Well, he said that apparently no one else asked before I did, so I've been the only one willing to actually act on my interest.Shame on you.
>>3975698>Better not take that long, I'll be out of town around then.Don't worry, I'll try to have the game done before the sun explodes.>Nice to see the UTN women having a good array of body types, it's good variety.I tried to give every character a different body type, a few ended more similar than others, but I think I did a decent job, I agree with the anons that said that the characters in Yellow have proportions too similar to each other, I love those characters and I wouldn't change their bodies if I were remaking UTY, but that's still something I noticed and I wanted to avoid, otherwise that would have made me an hypocrite.>>3975700>hmm, I may try to bastardize the character in some way or another if an idea comes to me. I've got sort of a vision in mindhuh, not sure what to make of this, but I'll be waiting for it.>As a side note, Sounds like Val would enjoy playing fighting games with her.I don't see Val being much of a gamer but I do see him making an exception for fighting games.
>>3975669>it's a kingdom where the biggest bullshitters, accidental or intentional prosper the most.I imagine there are a few honest people there though. Like the UT version of Carol is probably in her element there. Undyne as well is probably doing great.
>>3975706You just know you've got a valid point to make when your response to someone telling you to go stuff it is to just go "make me" instead of actually backing up any of your bullshit.Nice collision on those completely irrelevant models there by the way, I can barely even notice the blatant clipping on the sleeves.
>>3975709>huh, not sure what to make of this, but I'll be waiting for it.just shorthand for, writing and probably getting the character terribly wrong. I have just enough information that i'm willing to put myself out there and be terribly wrong now.>I don't see Val being much of a gamer but I do see him making an exception for fighting games.yeah I don't picture him just showing up to play video games of all kinds, but the competitive nature makes me think he'd dabble.And DBZ games themselves
>>3975698>Also I like her potentially being squishy and having a good belly to play with.If she's an slug, she should already be squishy, but I IMAGINE her belly would be extra soft in that case
>>3975708I was respecting "dev wishes" that apparently only existed in my head. Please understand.
>>3975709>I tried to give every character a different body typeWell, one of your characters is literally a jar of sourdough, so I'd say you're doing good on the variety front.
>>3975715Go look at the Simpsons gif he posted earlier and feel bad about yourself.
>>3975714>but I IMAGINE her belly would be extra soft in that caseHmm.Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to do something with that at some point, not a whole lot of thicker characters in these threads to work with.
>>3975684Maybe she does the Dante thing, and because of that Darkblade can't stand her because she's somehow corny and badass at the same time.Also Gerson goes full almight in this timeline, being the most conventional and straight lace hero possible. Because he's old enough to remember life before Darkblade's reign and is actually strong enough to talk back to him and back it up.
>>3975719>Because he's old enough to remember life before Darkblade's reign and is actually strong enough to talk back to him and back it up.bonus round though, Gerson doesn't actually try to overthrow them or anything because at the end of the day Darkblades edginess is mostly harmless and the worst punishment he has is "the pit">>3975710those would probably be the most dangerous people in the edge empire. The ones that are edgy and can back it up more than darkblade.
>>3975680I just realized something>Bedo is sea bunny>Bedo is a neet>Sea bunnies are poisonous to the touch>Neets are smelly and unwashedBedo is such a dirty neet that she's genuinely toxic to touch.
>>3975712>just shorthand for, writing and probably getting the character terribly wrong. I have just enough information that i'm willing to put myself out there and be terribly wrong now.I don't mind people getting my characters "wrong" in their writing, hell, if you do a good job I might actually take inspiration from that writing.>but the competitive nature makes me think he'd dabble.Yeah, I can't see him saying no to a competitive game if it catches his attention.>And DBZ games themselvesHe has definitely played DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 before.>>3975716>Well, one of your characters is literally a jar of sourdough, so I'd say you're doing good on the variety front.I try to be more wild with the mini bosses designs, one of mini bosses I have planned has a XCOM crysalid type of body, speaking of which, UTY actually did a pretty good job on that front, with Decibat, El Bailador, the Feisty Four and Guardener.
>>3975718>not a whole lot of thicker characters in these threads to work with.just put old-thread!kanako in a deltatraveler scenario, give her food spells, and tell her to have fun.
>>3975725No thank you, to literally all of that.
>>3975724I do have a question though, would you say there is anything in particular that bathers Bedo or major dislikes? Something she's uncomfortable with maybe?or any "sympathies" she may hold?
>>3975718imagine teasing her while squishing her belly as she acts frustrated, but at the same time doesn't try to stop your touch and is clearly flustered, she can't understand why a human would be so interested in a slob like her
>>3975719>Maybe she does the Dante thing, and because of that Darkblade can't stand her because she's somehow corny and badass at the same time.>THIS PARTY'S GETTING CRAZY>Luzma begins to shoot her finger guns on all directions as she does as sick juggling on some low level edgelord>>3975722Gerson fights the edgelords but tries as hard as he can to not seriously hurt them, he then gives them an speech about following your dreams and being a symbol of peace, which usually makes them hate Gerson even more.
>>3975729...You're trying to provoke me, aren't you?
>>3975706Kill yourself modelfag
>>3975732is that something you enjoy in particular?
>>3975726whats wrong, anon.afraid of the wicked witch of the waist?
>>3975735...Perhaps.Enough to write it down with the other idea I had for her, anyway.
>>3975737>now there are two people wanting to write something involving herthough I suppose yours sounds much more "sinister"
>>3975738Actually, I'm a drawfag, not a writer.
>>3975728>I do have a question though, would you say there is anything in particular that bathers Bedo or major dislikes?She doesn't take losing very well, and sometimes can be of short temper.>or any "sympathies" she may hold?She sympathizes with people that have given up.
>>3975736I don't think we need a high-cholesterol genocide route.
>>3975711This is a public website, tumblrina. Cry that the hug box isn't being respected all you want, it won't change a thing.>>3975723Well played, Narajanon.
>>3975743monsters are made of magic, so they do not need to worry about such things.
>>3975744>attempting to appeal to tribalism by referring to other website>nonsense about "hugboxing">"oooh, look how mad you are!!!!"What are you even doing at this point?Everyone in the thread already jumped down your throat and showed you how much of a stooge you're being, you really have so much of a humiliation kink that you have to drag this out even further?
>>3975744See, the problem is that "the hugbox" you're crying about is actually being very respected, literally no one agreed with your bullshit when you tried to shit up the thread multiple times earlier, and no one's buying it now.
>>3975742interesting. Alright, thanks anon.
>>3975742>She sympathizes with people that have given up.In such a way that she'd try and push them to keep moving forward, or just to offer her condolences?
>>3975753The latter, I don't think she'd know what to say if she wanted to encourage someone, she could try, but they might not be the right words.
>>3975747>>3975749wasn't that retard, get better targeting.>>3975753Frankly we need more Bedo art. I think only Sig has done anything with her at this point
>>3975756>wasn't that retard, get better targeting.You might be a different retard, but you're spewing the same retardation.Makes no difference to us, anon.
>>3975757>usspeak for yourself and yourself alone.
>>3975756Yes, so far only Sig has drawn her, and with any of his other character he made her look like a fertility goddess
>>3975760>avatarfaggingBuddy, come on now.You really think no one else noticed that, or the fact that you only brought that topic back up again once people started talking about actual fangames instead of bitching about post counts?Quit embarrassing yourself.
>>3975764Anon, with this and the person shitposting on /v/, it's pretty clear that someone is trying to shit up threads. Ignoring and moving on is for the best even if he's being a crybaby about discussion not being what he wants.
>>3975761NTA, but I'll try and get around to her soon.I did say I'd draw the three main UTN girls lactating, and I already took care of Quetzali, so I figure I can go for Bedo next, given that I already gave Luzma some attention recently.Might need some more sprite references of her though, don't just wanna copy Sig's or anything.
>>3975450Man, I wish I could draw
>>3975766Yeah, I'm moving on from the guy.Think you're giving him a bit much credit though, it's probably the same guy as on /v/.
>>3975768Cheap tablet's like thirty bucks off Amazon if you wanna take a crack at it.All you need is time, and the dedication to get better at something.
>>3975769 that's exactly what I'm assuming but I'm done paying any mind to it.
>>3975683First of all, parasocial is a term for when people treat watching a celebrity the same as interacting with them personally. Not applicable here since no one here is a celebrity and everyone here can see each other's posts.Second, all of the discussion has been about fangames or was a tangent from a fangame discussion. Just because the post number is high doesn't mean its all off topic or ritualposting. There's just more people here now with more to talk about than there was before, probably because there are more fangames now.
>>3975761Bedo but her body stores all her fat on her hips and tits
>>3975764>>3975766thats not avatarfagging you retards>>3975761it fits her, surprisingly. maybe its because she's stocky. though I see her more likely having Velma's bodytype>>3975767please, continue with your endeavors.
>>3975778>please, continue with your endeavors.Well, I'm nearly done with the stuff I have to do today, maybe I can try and take a crack at it tonight.By truth though, I haven't really drawn a fatter character like her in some time now, so I'll need to go grab some references to figure out the best way to handle her.And again, some more sprites would be useful, if anyone has any. (assuming she actually has a full sprite sheet or anything)I was thinking of drawing some simple pinup with Martlet in a bikini or something tonight, both as a quick exercise in drawing her body, and as something of an apology to anyone waiting on me to get that Martlet/Anon drawing done, but I suppose that'll have to wait too.
>>3975779>spoilersNTA but you can't just get me hoping like that anon.
>>3975778>thats not avatarfagging you retardsThat anon's been using those models like avatars in his posts multiple times, he's avatarfagging.Rather, you are.
>>3975782not your boogieman, retarded faggot.>>3975779>some more sprites would be useful, if anyone has any. (assuming she actually has a full sprite sheet or anything)you're probably gonna have to ask him directly. outside of the talksprites above, I think we've only seen that one overworld sprite.
>>3975781>NTA but you can't just get me hoping like that anon.I'll try and do it soon, along with some others.I've been pretty tired and bogged down lately, so these smaller images (like that Reynault thing I made a few days back) are my way of just getting to relax for a bit, making something small and quick, and hopefully enjoyable.The Martlet/Anon thing's been taking too long, and sitting down to try and chip away at it isn't as satisfying as just getting something smaller done faster, so I'll have to put it on something of a hiatus, at least for a week or two.So, if I can do this Bedo thing fast, I can do that quick pinup of the bird shortly after, and then whatever else I feel so inclined to do, haven't quite decided yet.Was thinking maybe another thing with Reynault, I dunno.
>>3975709>I don't see Val being much of a gamerCome on, anon, you know he has all the Monster Stones Neo games, and the legally mandated modded copy of San Andreas for his PS2.
>>3975783>you're probably gonna have to ask him directly. outside of the talksprites above, I think we've only seen that one overworld sprite.Huh, could've sworn she had a few more than that.But yeah, I'll ask when I get down to it.
>>3975784>so these smaller images (like that Reynault thing I made a few days back) are my way of just getting to relax for a bit,honestly that's more important by a mile than getting to other things, and you really do need to get some rest. I only said something because you put the image in my head, but I do stand by what I've said in the past, draw the things that come to you naturally and are fun to draw.But now I'm imagining Martlet trying to pose like a pinup or her doing it on our anniversary having completely forgotten it was our anniversary and was just doing it that night by chance.
>>3975783>not your boogieman, retarded faggot.Ooh yeah, real convincing, the way you dragged up a blatantly inflammatory topic right when people were just talking about fangames totally flew under the radar, way to pull the wool over our eyes.
>>3975786He definitely has played games, but I meant in the sense that games aren't his first form of entertainment.>>3975788There's pic related, I might do a side sprite later.
>>3975793whatever lets you sleep at night, retard>>3975794ey nice, she looks like she's made of jelly now
>>3975791>you really do need to get some rest.I attempted to go to sleep early last night (5:30 am is early by comparison), and that resulted in me naturally waking up after only five hours of sleep. I even tried imagining Ceroba holding me in bed to try and make sure I got all my sleep, but no dice."Rest" just isn't one of those things I'm compatible with.Not my choice.>I only said something because you put the image in my head, but I do stand by what I've said in the past, draw the things that come to you naturally and are fun to draw.Ah, you see, I mentioned it because I *knew* you'd like the idea, and therefore be compelled to talk about it yourself, therefore reminding *me* to actually do it at some point!Mindgames anon, mindgames.>But now I'm imagining Martlet trying to pose like a pinupYeah, I was thinking about how she'd go about doing that.I pictured the scenario being that she's "modelling" a bikini for [you], but there's no way she'd be perfectly confident showing herself off like that, she'd be a blushing mess while tripping over her own words.Still need to decide a good pose to go with that, too.Don't suppose you have any ideas?
>>3975794Alright, thanks.Say, is she semi-transparent or something?The way she's sprited, makes her look like you could see through her, just a tiny bit.Also, what's that in her mouth, a cigarette?
>>3975722>Gerson doesn't actually try to overthrow them or anything because at the end of the day Darkblades edginess is mostly harmless and the worst punishment he has is "the pit"I imagine Darkblade's reign is pretty chill. He acts evil, but really he's just a kid a heart that wants to look cool. I don't think he's actually a ruthless killer or a tyrant. Some other people might take things too far though. Like Carol or Undyne being hot topic zealots, might have implemented the ball pit torture, which of course only works on people who actually give a shit.I think they (Carol mostly) tried to put Gerson in there once after he did something super corny and embarassed her. Of course since Darkblade "Has better things to do" and didn't want to get involved, Carol couldn't really force him to do anything. One day Gerson just showed up himself, swan dived into the ball pit, played around for a bit, then went home. Carol hasn't bothered him since then, and Undyne secretly started respecting him after that.>e. The ones that are edgy and can back it up more than darkblade.They're definetly dangerous, but they're not stronger than Darkblade. Even if he is weaker than Asgore, he's still a boss monster. What makes them dangerous, is that unlike Darkblade, they're very aggressive. He'll leave you alone, they'll seek you out.
>>3975795Whatever lets you pretend you got one over on us, avatarfag.
>>3975797>Say, is she semi-transparent or something?She's in part slime, I actually haven decided it beyond her body being kind of shiny, so you could say it's open to interpretation>Also, what's that in her mouth, a cigarette?just a lollipop, you'll never see her without one of those in her mouth, she probably has an entire stash of them.
>>3975736>wicked witch of the waistThat's what Kanako named her twitter alt
>>3975742>She sympathizes with people that have given up.She just like me frShe does have real potential for the "neet waifu" market in addition to the architect audience.
>>3975798>One day Gerson just showed up himself, swan dived into the ball pit, played around for a bit, then went home. Carol hasn't bothered him since then, and Undyne secretly started respecting him after that.that's really good. I like that a lot.>he's still a boss monster.I forgot for a moment that he's a boss monster, but yeah I think the "back it up" part is that they are more willing to actively do the "bad" things >>3975796>Don't suppose you have any ideas?I've got one in mind where she's kind of fluffing up her hair feathers but I think one of my weakpoints is describing how someones body is positioned for more unique poses. I'll think of how to word it after work
>>3975801>She's in part slime, I actually haven decided it beyond her body being kind of shiny, so you could say it's open to interpretationHm, interesting.Might be tricky for me to draw, since I've yet to get the hang of proper lighting/shading, but I'll try and do my best.>just a lollipop, you'll never see her without one of those in her mouth, she probably has an entire stash of them.Ah, I see.What flavor's she like?Also, inb4 some anon writes a green about making out with her and being able to taste the lollipop on her tongue.
>>3975804>She does have real potential for the "neet waifu" marketI think they call them "girl failures" or "femcels" nowadays
>>3975805>I've got one in mind where she's kind of fluffing up her hair feathersOh, like that one Chewbacca pose?
>>3975800>us>>3975801I thought it was like a stick or a toothpick
>>3975808the what now
>>3975810You know, like this Chewbacca pose.This iconic Chewbacca pose, the pose he's known for in every movie he's in.C'mon, don't pretend like this wasn't the first thing that popped into your head, everyone knows this one.
>>3975806>Might be tricky for me to draw, since I've yet to get the hang of proper lighting/shading,if you draw the contour of her body in a similar way to how you did with Luzma it should look good.>What flavor's she like?Isn't it obvious? it's naranja but she probably has them in all sorts of flavors.
>>3975731>THIS PARTY'S GETTING CRAZY>Luzma begins to shoot her finger guns on all directions as she does as sick juggling on some low level edgelordDon't forget she's eating a pizza while she does it. Just to clown on them even harder.Also it isn't reallly related to anything you said but you just indirectly give me a really good idea for something related to him in the game.>Gerson fights the edgelords but tries as hard as he can to not seriously hurt them, he then gives them an speech about following your dreams and being a symbol of peace, which usually makes them hate Gerson even more.I feel like this would lead to Undyne becoming seriously conflicted over if he's cool or not, culminating in her having some kind of mid life crisis then becoming a corny do good hero herself.
>>3975811it's actually quite shocking to see someone in this day and age who doesn't know the iconic Chewbacca pose.
>>3975811Thats... Ok so I mean yes I'm imagining one of her hands there but I'm thinking of something much moreSensual than chewbacca. Sorry to all the "sensual chewbacca" lovers out there I guess. I'm thiking of where she's lifted some of her hair fluffing it backwards while giving you those bedroom eyes (but she's nervous as hell and it shows as she's trying to do this). After fluffing her hair she'd be using a wing finger to twirl her hair while she props herself up on the bed with her elbow.
>>3975812>if you draw the contour of her body in a similar way to how you did with Luzma it should look good.Yeah, though I might try and make it a little blurry, to try and capture that slime look a bit more.>it's naranjaOkay, I should've guessed that.
>>3975814I watched the original trilogy with my dad growing up, but I never clocked that as an iconic pose. I even looked it up, saw the image anon posted, and didn't recognize it as anything specific, and then still asked what he was talking about.
>>3975817I'm pulling your leg anon, this is the first time I've heard of a "Chewbacca pose"
>>3975817There are multiple images of him like that, I've even seen action figures of him in that pose by default.It's the iconic Chewbacca pose.
>>3975815>I'm thiking of where she's lifted some of her hair fluffing it backwards while giving you those bedroom eyes (but she's nervous as hell and it shows as she's trying to do this). After fluffing her hair she'd be using a wing finger to twirl her hair while she props herself up on the bed with her elbow.Boy, that sounds complicated.I'll see what I can do though, when I get around to it.I do worry that having her laying on a bed might make it a bit too similar to that valentine's day drawing I did of Ceroba though, and I wouldn't want to retread old ground like that.
>>3975819really had me going for a moment>>3975820I even looked up "iconic chewbacca pose" and got no single consistent result. Is this a reynault prank? Should I put cheese in my hat?
>>3975822I just gave you a 1:1 readout of what my neurons were firing off. Her pushing her chest forward while fluffing up her hair, trying to look sultry but clearly blushing and averting her eyes is very Martlet.
>>3975823I don't know what to tell you pal, this is a thing, there are multiple instances of it.It's Chewbacca's iconic pose.
>>3975804>in addition to the architect audience.She could make for a good shortstack with her proportions.
>>3975801>just a lollipopalright then changing THAT mental image real quick.
>>3975827what?
>>3975824Yeah, I don't blame you or anything, just a bit more complex than I initially thought of, though creativity with posing is not my strong suit, admittedly.
>>3975828I had a thought about her smoking a cigarette after learning that the weird human kid who stopped by and played fighting games with her had died. Sort of like the Lisa lisa scene
>>3975829the pose I gave in the post here>>3975824was intended to be a simplified one shot scene not involving the bed to make to a bit easier whenever that time comes around.>>3975825>foxpostingdoesn't reynault have his own steam powered version of the internet to be trolling people on?
So we know Bedo is a neet, but is she also a shut-in?
>>3975831>was intended to be a simplified one shot scene not involving the bed to make to a bit easier whenever that time comes around.Oh, okay.I think I can sorta visualize that, but we'll see when I get there.>doesn't reynault have his own steam powered version of the internet to be trolling people on?I don't know why you're assuming this is a bit, god's own truth, it's Chewbacca's iconic, famous, legendary pose.I don't know how you haven't heard of it before, it's all over the place.
>>3975800>>3975809can both of you knock it off? Using "us" and them arguments and seetheposting are both obnoxious activities that do nothing but lower thread quality. If you have a problem just explain in clear plain terms.
>>3975805>I forgot for a moment that he's a boss monsteDon't let him hear you say that. He'll normally leave you alone, but that's a very sensitive nerve you just struck.
>>3975833She goes out so rarely that very few people know she exists, some say that might be an advantage.
>>3975823>Should I put cheese in my hat?Is this a tradition for when you get pranked in monster france?
>>3975836There's no way he's a boss monster, he's too short, you would think he would at the very least be around the size of The Warrior in Blue, now that's a true fox boss monster.
>>3975836NTA, but are you saying this Darkblade guy has some kind of complex around him being a boss monster?
>>3975830Maybe she sticks the lolipop in backwards instead.>>3975831>doesn't reynault have his own steam powered version of the internet to be trolling people on?No, he has a physical message board, on a wall in town, that he posts on.
>>3975842>No, he has a physical message board, on a wall in town, that he posts on.I thought they used graffiti on walls over there.
>>3975842>No, he has a physical message board, on a wall in town, that he posts on.The dedication it must take to regularly show up to an actual message board just to do a slower version of this.
>>3975846>>3975842>reynault hiding behind something to watch as a regular poster shows up to see his shitposts and seethe about it.>Maybe she sticks the lolipop in backwards instead.maybe, it will probably come out a little sillier because of that but oh well.
>>3975841More of a complex about people not taking him seriously, but yes that is included in it. Boss monsters are usually very big, strong, and long lived, so him being small, looking eternally like an early teenager, and being weaker than some particularly notable boss monsters has given him something of a complex.
>>3975848Interesting.And, what's he look like, again?
>>3975847>reynault hiding behind something to watch as a regular poster shows up to see his shitposts and seethe about it.Hopefully he's good at holding in a laugh, otherwise it'll be hard not to notice the conspicuously french noises emanating from whatever he's hiding by.
>>3975851>conspicuously french noisesah, the sound of evil
>>3975806>Also, inb4 some anon writes a green about making out with her and being able to taste the lollipop on her tongue.I was thinking she could be very good with her mouth game if she's always sucking on a lollipop, whatever weird slime tongue she has could easily out wrestle yours, not to mention she could suck your soul out with her experience
>>3975835>modelfag is still trying
>>3975840You're *&#$ing dead kid, already tracking this post. I'll be seeing you later tonight, so called warrior in blue.
>>3975853>whatever weird slime tongue she has could easily out wrestle yours, not to mention she could suck your soul out with her experienceOkay, I know for sure this one's trying to provoke me.
>>3975856Heh, i'd like to see you try kid, you know why no one knows how my powers work? it's because no one that has seen them has lived to tell the tale
>>3975857you made that spoiler text and then complain for someone responding with something freaky?
>>3975845Upside Town has a special auto refreshing board. Instead of needing to paint on the wall, and have it occasionally be scraped clean by janitors, the board uses paper notes which automatically slide off when its full. Completely eliminating the need for monster moderators. Of course the lack of proper supervision means the board has been completely overtaken by trolls.
>>3975859Complaining?That sounds hot.
>>3975847>maybe, it will probably come out a little sillier because of that but oh well.She's a 4 foot tall lime green slug bunny, its gonna be a little silly regardless
>>3975862>She's 4 foot tallIMAGINE
>>3975852To you, maybe.I yearn to listen to his voice all day.I still think it'd be funny if his dialogue noise was made out of cut up Spy snorting audio, but really fast.
>>3975850Here's a rough ms paint sketch
>>3975794>There's pic related, I might do a side sprite later.Well, I suppose later is now.
>>3975875She looks like she's gonna fall over. I'd say try to lean her forwards some so she looks more balanced.
>>3975875That side sprite actually helps immensely, thank you.
Pacifist Val meeting a version of Bedo I'm imagining in my head.>Bedo didn’t make much of a habit of leaving her house for nonsense. Let alone dangerous nonsense. But she’d caught wind of some stupid rumors on the undernet. There was ‘supposedly’ a human going around picking fights with everyone he met. Bedo rolled her eyes, sure thing. If that was the case there’d be evacuations or something. A real pain in the ass that would be. No, it was probably just some punk spreading rumors because he was bored. Well, to be honest, today she was a little bored, and it had been a while since she left the house. >So she took a walk, passing a couple of monsters with black eyes as she went. They looked like losers, street punks or something stupid, not like people fleeing in terror from a human. It wasn’t long before the walk became about as boring as doing nothing at home, so she rounded a corner, ready to head back home and waste the day away. That’s how things would have gone if the world made any sense.>Turning the corner, she was met with possibly the smuggest sight she’d ever seen. A small black haired kid punching into the air like a fighting game character. She was about to pretend she’d never seen the weirdo when he suddenly approached her.>“Hey lady!” the kid called out, “you look pretty tough. You wanna fight?” He started hopping in place like a boxer with his dukes up.>She stopped in her tracks. What kind of question was that? She looked the kid over, wondering if he’d just lost his mind or something when she noticed. Cuts and scrapes covering him, leaking some red substance. She’d had enough fighting games float down from the surface to recognize that. It was blood. There really was a human down here. She stepped back to run, this was the last thing she expected to ACTUALLY see today. She should have just stayed inside.
>>3975881>The kid frowned, lowering his fists, “No? Oh, sorry I thought I sensed a killer fighting spirit emanating from you.” The kid stretched his arms over his head, before suddenly wincing from an injury on his arm.>Bedo figured she must be dreaming or something. She hardly left the house anyways, so maybe she really didn’t and this was just a stupid dream. Whatever, she rolled with the punches, “You’re… human?”>The Kid didn’t even look up as he picked at a gash on his arm, “Huh? Oh, yeah I’m- shit that hurts, yeah I’m human.”>The human didn’t make any move to attack or run away. Nor did he seem coated in dust. Curiosity got the better of Bedo, “What are you doing here?” >“Picking at my arm.”>She got a sudden urge to slap him, “No I mean, why are you underground?”>The human gave her his full focus suddenly, clenching his fists in front of him confidently, “Oh! I heard that monsters are super strong, so I came here to fight them!” He started hopping like a boxer again, punching at nothing in particular. Today was even dumber than she thought. She couldn’t help but wonder why a kid of all things would come down for such a reason. >She asked flatly, “What, do you have a death wish kid?” >He simply shrugged, then added, “Gettin’ strong is cool.” as if that made everything make sense. He stopped shadow boxing again as a cut on his leg started frustrating him, and changed the subject, “Hey, If you don’t wanna fight, can you tell me where to find this Asgore guy? I heard he’s real strong.” >She shot back almost instantly, “Asgore’s gonna kill you kid.”>To which he defiantly replied, “Nah, Goku had a lot of close calls, but everyone knows the strongest fighters want to have rematches. Besides, I’ll probably win.” He frowned at that word, probably, “I’ll definitely win.”>“No kid, I mean he’ll seriously kill you. Especially in that condition.”
>>3975882>The boy looked her in the eye and pointed a thumb to his chest, “Hah, I’ve handled wor-” He stopped mid sentence staring at his thumb in horror. Some revelation gripped him that Bedo couldn’t imagine. He began to visibly sweat as he put his arms down. Now that the kid wasn’t hopping around like a maniac, she could see the extent of his injuries. He may have been a human, but as some unfathomable despair struck him, Bedo felt kind of bad for him. She still couldn’t imagine why a human kid jumped underground to get his ass kicked by monsters, but it the thought of sending him off to Asgore right now felt like it was probably the wrong thing to do.>“Uh, kid.” She raised a hand towards him, uncertain, “I’m sure that that goko fella.” this snapped the boy to attention.>“Goku.”>She rolled her eyes, “Right, Goku. Goku wouldn’t want you uh.” She scrambled for a good reason, “Goku would want you to be at your best right? Fighting games aren’t fun when the other side has a handicap.” >The human thought on this for a moment, she pinched the bridge of her nose. This continued to be stupid. Was it really her business if a human wanted to go die?>“You can crash at my place, if you want a challenge I uh, bet you can’t beat me at fighting games before you’re ready to go fight Asgore.”>That won him over as he clenched his fists in front of him again, “Wait, So I was right. You DO have a fighting spirit!”>Bedo backed up a little, “Woah, fighting games kid, games.”>Even still, he smiled, showing that he’d had a few teeth knocked out recently, “I bet your favorite character is really strong. I can’t wait!”>She sighed and turned around, “Come on, before something else stupid happens.” before remembering she might as well introduce herself, >“Oh, the name’s Bedo. You?”
>>3975865Look, you can yearn for it. it doesn't make the french not evil.
>>3975874That's pretty good.But I know there's more than that.
>>3975884It doesn't have to be this way.
>>3975883>The boy looked her in the eye and pointed a thumb to his chestAnd like that, fate's die was cast.This was a good green though, nice work anon!
>>3975886Look, some french people can overcome their debilitating evil through sheer force of will I'm sure. though the siren call of wicked deeds will always call out to them from their blood.I don't think Reynault is particularly interested in resisting that siren call. Plus he's a fox on top of being french. Double evil.
>>3975888>I don't think Reynault is particularly interested in resisting that siren call.Okay, true, but he can be a little evil and not be that evil.As a treat.>Plus he's a fox on top of being french. Double evil.Being a fox doesn't make him evil, there are tons of not-evil foxes.A harmful stereotype, that is, honestly.
>>3975885there's this one
>>3975891I remember there being at least one more, but these will do for now.Thank you for your assistance.I'll get to him later.
>>3975435>>3975450The UTY poll finished upStarlo and Martlet tied.So that's DRY Kanokoke, Yagi, Martlet and Starlo as the winners in their respective categories
>>3975893I remember seeing one guy say that he didn't vote for Ceroba only because he thought she'd get the most votes.Whoever that guy was, we should crucify him.
>>3975894There were two guys actually, one of them was me
>>3975895We should crucify you.
>>3975877I wasn't sure how to do that, so I just pushed her arm a pixel to the left.>>3975881>>3975882>>3975883>Besides, I’ll probably win.” He frowned at that word, probably, “I’ll definitely win.”I can totally see Val saying something like that,>The human thought on this for a moment, she pinched the bridge of her nose. This continued to be stupid. Was it really her business if a human wanted to go die?And this interaction fits Bedo's personality really well as well.Good work anon, I enjoyed the greentext, Val managed to sense Bedo's fighting spirit despite it being buried for so long.
>>3975893Shu won
Alright everyone, it's time.I'm getting to work on the Bedo Lactation image (which most certainly will not be *completed* tonight but will hopefully be able to be completed within just two sessions), but I wanna know how people here think she'd react to being asked for her breastmilk, based on what we know of her.I've landed on making her look a little grumpy, but holding up one of her breasts with her hand as she offers you her milk, muttering about how ridiculous this is while blushing, but I'm willing to change things if anyone else has any better ideas, namely for dialogue.
>>3975883A little follow up that I may have rushed a little>Kids name was Val, it turned out. He stuck around for a whole damn week, pain in the ass kid really way more roughed up than she originally though, but stubborn as hell, and persistent too. She wanted to bandage him up a little bit, just didn’t feel right having him bleed all over the place, but he wanted to jump right to the fighting games, always a challenge with this kid. It got to the point where she started using that against him, ‘If I win without using any specials you have to clean up those cuts.’ or ‘If you can’t stop me from getting an ultra combo 3 times in a row then you have to get some sleep.” She wasn’t his damn mother, but she could kick his ass in a game so it wasn’t TOO much trouble. >It was actually fun, too, she had to admit. She didn’t have an opponent who could handle losing this many times in a row and keep coming back for more. Sure he’d started to get a couple of wins here and there, but she always managed to turn it into best out of 3 or 5, and the boy was surprisingly a man of his word if she challenged him to something. She half started thinking the human must have been a loner, like her. That maybe just having a place to crash and avoid some responsibilities would kill his insane craving to go fight Asgore. >They’d fallen into a pretty consistent rule in general of best out of 5. Usually without stakes, other than the pride he was putting on the line from her original bet that got him to stick around for a while. She was still the better player, by a longshot obviously, but Val had managed to bring her to game 4 a few times. She had to give him credit, for a game he’d never played before, he was competitive as hell.
>>3975901>Saturday night, rolled around, and the little punk even managed to get her to game 5. For a moment she wasn’t even sure she had the win, but Val slipped up and she snagged the K.O. She looked over to the kid, glad she’d kept up her winning streak, but a little worried she’d crush his spirit, and lose the only opponent who didn’t whine over getting his ass kicked. >“Sorry kid, better luck next time.” she nudged, testing his reaction. Sure enough though, he was beaming. The tougher his opponent, the more excited he was to face the challenge. Yeah, he was a pain in the ass, but maybe that wasn’t so bad.->Sunday afternoon. The house was empty, aside from a note he’d left her. She left the house again, sooner than usual, soon finding herself at the nearby lake. Note in hand as she stared out into the water, leaning against the railing. ‘When I get back, let's have another rematch. That was fun!’ she crumpled up the note, squeezing it tightly in her hand as she grabbed a lollipop from her pocket. It was already all over the news. She unwrapped the lollipop, hands shaking, sticking it in her mouth. It tasted like nothing. “Yeah kid, we can have that rematch whenever you’re ready.”Pain in the ass.
I'm just not gonna finish DRY. I think that keycard puzzle was the last straw. Having to move the camera around between multiple jump pads and a Kanako door just to see the whole puzzle is too much. That doesn't mean its too hard mind you, just so tedious that I don't want to see the rest of the game enough to bother with it.
>>3975898>>3975887Glad yall liked it. I'd like to believe that there's a timeline out there some how someway, that Val got to learn to become a better person, and live a happy life. But I fear that when he did the thumb pose, he saw the face of death itself.>And this interaction fits Bedo's personality really well as well.I'm glad some of it was fitting then. Having received some new Bedo Facts, I really wanted to do something related to her even if it's a bit early to properly 'meet her'
>>3975892I have concept art and face sprites, but that's it for stuff that represents how he would look in game.
>>3975906Wasn't he also drawn in a parody of that one JayAxer image, the "Nine Inch Tails" image?
>>3975898Either her feet and torso need to go to the right, or her head needs to go to the left. This is something I've had a lot of trouble with myself, its easy to make cartoon characters like these look really off balance.
>>3975903Really felt to me like people are overblowing that puzzle. It was a slight pain having to do the kanako door instead of her just jumping back into that room, but I felt like that puzzle went by super quick. Honestly if it fixed it so that Kanako jumps back to the first room AFTER the kanako barrier, then I'd have no complaints on it.Sorry to hear you didn't have fun with it though.
>>3975902>It was already all over the news.I'm imagining Val's face being visible in the "sky", like Goku's appearing in the sky after he dies.
>>3975911>Bedo sadly humming 'Head chala' despite not knowing the song herself.
>>3975908Yeah, but that one's just a joke and its traced. Not really reflective of his design or original art.
>>3975913Yes, but it is a closer look at his colors and fur patterns, if nothing else.Useful information.
>>3975890>Being a fox doesn't make him evil, there are tons of not-evil foxes.oh poor anon, you just haven't learned about their evil schemes yet. >>3975913forgot about the orange tip on the gun.
>>3975915>oh poor anon, you just haven't learned about their evil schemes yet. I've seen plenty of foxes, and I can assure you that not all of them are evil.And even if they are, they get a pass anyway because I like them, so it's fine.
>>3975900sorry, missed this postrolling her eyes with a sigh as she holds the breast up like you described, probably saying something like "this is so stupid" but she's blushing (slightly)
>>3975916>the council of foxes all geckering in unison as you make that post. Right in the palm of their... paws. Paw of their hand.
>>3975910I wouldn't mind if I could see the whole puzzle without needing to move the screen, but as it is its a pain in the ass to do. I have to be able to look at puzzles while I'm solving them. That means I either lap the whole puzzle room 50 times to figure out the solution or a take a bunch of screenshots and stitch them together in ms paint. As you can imagine, neither of those are conducive to a fun experience.Anyways, this is just one problem among many. I was taking notes as I played through the game both to give my thoughts on it as well as to report any bugs I found. I'll probably just post that since its clear I'm not finishing a proper write up or the game.
>>3975919I consider my visual memory to be lacking, but I guess I'm just a bit better off in that department. I had to loop a couple times because I flipped a switch to the wrong position, but it was fairly minimal.Still, I can see how it would be frustrating.
>>3975919It takes literaly takes 5 minutes to complete that puzzle, what are you doing?
>>3975901>>3975902>she crumpled up the note, squeezing it tightly in her hand as she grabbed a lollipop from her pocket. It was already all over the news. She unwrapped the lollipop, hands shaking, sticking it in her mouth. It tasted like nothing. “Yeah kid, we can have that rematch whenever you’re ready.”We can always cope with the resurrection theory, who knows maybe this time Val will bring Clover with him so they can have a little tournament, whoever wins the first best of 5 gets to fight the champion Bedo
>>3975918>the council of foxes all geckering in unison as you make that post.For me, that's not that many foxes, only about two or three. Four, max.Probably.>Right in the palm of their... paws. Paw of their hand.The last time someone used that joke with me, it was in a very different context.
>>3975899Leave him alone Shu
>>3975917>rolling her eyes with a sigh as she holds the breast up like you described, probably saying something like "this is so stupid" but she's blushing (slightly)Yeah, that could work.The idea of her acting like she thinks this is dumb, but still actually going along with it is fun.I'm also debating making a reference to the "ketchup slilk" joke, because I'm pretty sure that was about her, but I'm not 100% sure how to work it in.
>>3975922I know val is a bit of a shit and that's what's so fun about him, but I like thinking of ressurection theory if he does end up dying in the pacifist route. I'm not going to screech at naranjanon if he dies, but I am going to cope and think of him getting to revived and having that rematch for this scenario I've completely imagined in my head.Honestly even in the neutral route, I'm curious how it would be for a revived Val. A lot of the fights he gets into are very mutual. the cocky roach and the duendes were pretty much asking for a fight weren't they?
>>3975900>>3975925Looking grumpy and avoiding eye contact, "Fine, you can have a taste, just don't call it "ketchup slilk" you dic- dork"I like the idea of Bedo replacing insults with "dork" when she's talking with anon
>>3975913Darkblade paws
>>3975925>>3975927could also do an alt where all you change is her eyes. wherever bedos sprite sheet is for faces, she has that one expression anons said was "her face if anon says the ketchup slilk thing"
>>3975921This puzzle?>what are you doing?Not being able to see. It doesn't matter how hard it is if most of the time spent solving it is just me running laps to remind myself where each component is and what state each one is currently in.
>>3975929
>>3975930>>3975903thinking on how to tweak this puzzle, maybe add a small symbol near the switch with the current direction of the linked redirector?
>>3975931pretty much all of the faces on the second row, but the one where her eye is a dot is best for that imo
>>3975920I have fine visual memory, I just can't use that visual memory for puzzle solving. That requires remembering a bunch of tiny details exactly and excatly how they fit together while I'm also problem solving.
>>3975932that might help. I didn't find the puzzle hard myself, but it was "inconvenient"
>>3975932The stupid simple solution is to add a button so I can zoom out to see the whole room whenever one of these puzzles is around.If you want a more elegant solution. Put a diagram on the wall that updates in real time tto show the position and states of all puzzle elements and the current locations of Cole and Kanako.The best solution though would be to scrap these puzzles entirely and replace them with ones that fit as many of the elements in a single screen space as possible. Sometimes to make a good game you have to throw away work. Just think about how much stuff got cut from the Portal games, they removed whole mechanics late in development simply because they didn't work. I think the off screen bullet mechanic should get the portal 2 vacuum pipe treatment.
>>3975931Baldo.
>>3975932That would barely help. I need to see the sum of all the parts in that puzzle together. Maybe some kind of puzzle map screen that shows everything (every puzzle element, including what state they're in, and both party members) activated at the press of a button would do it well enough.
>>3975936>>3975935>>3975938all current buttons are already in use, sure I could add one more but the entire game is made around 3 buttonsmaybe add a small panel on the wall that you can interact to see a map showing everything could work
>>3975931
Well since I'm done with DRY (done as in done playing, not as in got to the end) I'll just post my notes on it. I don't think its worth doing a proper write up since a lot of my issues were already discussed in the thread ad nauseum and since I didn't even finish the game.To DRYanon (or anyone else who wants to read this) these are the notes I wrote while playing DRY. These were my raw unfiltered thoughts as I was playing. A lot of stuff was said without much thought and a lot was said in anger. I just think it might be useful for DRYanon to know how someone who didn't like his game in its current state might have felt while playing in.https://rentry.org/anonsDRYnotes
>>3975940fucking dying here anon holy fuck.
>>3975939No, because most of the time I need it I'm going to be moving around and won't have access to it, and I need it in basically every large puzzle room since you keep putting barriers in them. Just turn off sprint during puzzles, it really shouldn't be needed during puzzles (yes, that is a comment about the steam vent hazards in the other puzzle room, those are awful). Or if you are absolutely married to sprinting in puzzle sections, you could have pressing Z as Kanako open the map like how Z with Cole shoots water.
They want Clover.....
>>3975941Hey, not that I have any stake in this, but if you were having trouble because of some specific puzzle, couldn't you just have someone drop you their save file from immediately after where you got stuck so you can keep playing from there?
>>3975947Because then I'd lose all the stuff unique to my file. Might as well watch a playthrough at that point. And I kinda don't even want to do that. The game just kept doing things to frustrate me and that was the last straw.
>>3975949I assume there's no way to cheat past the puzzle otherwise or anything?
>>3975951Not that I know of. I couldn't even figure out how to cheat at fights.
I worry sometimes, since most of the positive DRY feedback was on the first week or so, and a lot of the negative feed back has been since then, that Dryanon is still keeping in mind the things that some of us liked about the game and doesn't over adjust only based on the more recent negative feedback. Not that the negative isn't 'valid' or useful, but I don't want to see the puzzles get super dumbed down for instance, but there's a lot of people who didn't like them.
>>3975883>The boy looked her in the eye and pointed a thumb to his chest, “Hah, I’ve handled wor-” He stopped mid sentence staring at his thumb in horrorSomeone please draw this. I need a comic of this.
>>3975941>>3975944I'll give a read to this, sorry that you didn't enjoy your time with the game, I'll see how to improve it>>3975949>>3975951you can edit your save file go into "Appdata/Roaming/Godot/app_userdata/Deltarune Yellow" folder and open your save file with a text editor, and add "529" into the flag field
>>3975942Don't laugh anon.How would you like it if *you* were the bald?
>>3975954I'd be fine with the puzzles if he just convinced them down into a smaller space. Honestly a lot of the game is like that. A lot of extra rooms that exist solely to separate two important rooms and shove in some extra enemies. Extra timed hazards to make puzzles more annoying without really making them any more difficult to solve.
>>3975956Wouldn't be the first time it's claimed a UTN character, either.
>>3975963I'm not trying to invalidate your feedback anon, I just don't feel the way you did on the game and hope what you've said doesn't end up being the "final word" that stands alone in coloring how dryanon evaluates his situation, with how much it's been brought up.I had a great time with the game, and the negative sides were mostly minor things, with some things i'd like to see him improve on or some small changes
>>3975962hmm, it depends. Who is piglike in appearance?
>>3975967My brain immediately went to Quetzali upon pondering your question.So, it's her.Quetzali now has a piglike appearance.
>>3975969>luzma staring at you baldly while but if you turn to the side you wont be able to stop laughing because quetzali? quetzali is pig-like in appearance.>why, god why am I so bald.
>>3975970>luzmafuckwhoopsnow I'm imagining Luzma laughing her ass off at bald Bedo, and then suddenly she's bald.
>>3975971>The bald spreads.The entire UTN cast will be bald if this keeps up like this.Would bald Luzma just have her head as a perfect sphere?
>>3975972it would be like how fire burns in space, just rounding off.>val walks in bald too"how do you like my new CUT">characters Naranjanon hasn't even revealed yet going bald AS WE SPEAK
DeltaGOLD (angsty teen Kanako) redesigned Kanako. Massive downgrade imo, especially the proportions, and if this is the character going forward I'll probably stop posting new art of this AU since I wasn't keeping up with it for the writingPosting not!Clover's redesign as well
>>3975974Isn't that the poop artist's AU?
>>3975974honestly the designs before were one of the good things about it. Good designs, shit writing. so while these new designs aren't offensive, they don't really have much going for them.
>>3975973I tried to bald Luzma before you posted this, and I ended up with this.Uh.
>>3975977her fucking eye, she was definitely laughing her ass off until suddenly bald
>>3975912Val probably told her all about DBZ when he found Ultimate Battle 22 at the bottom of her stack of games. The game was shit so she'd never bothered with it, but Val didn't care, it had Goku in it.
>>3975903thats the last puzzle before toster, in fact its pretty much a straight walk to him after that.but yeah, i can see why someone would drop it there (i do recommend pushing on just to hear his theme)the spire really tested my patience and its a miracle i made it to the dark jail afterwards before alt F4ing.>>3975910that puzzle is a final straw.or more accurately, its the ultimate example of everything wrong with the chapter.its not a particularly difficult puzzle, its actually quite easy. but it tries to make up for its lack of difficulty with just chaining the same exact puzzle element over and over.this theme is pretty persistent throughout the chapter. "making up for a lack of X by just repeating Y.">the spam of dark streams in the spire>the overly long overworld dodge segment in the factory >a lack of attack variety in general>the cube swap puzzle in the cloudsi could go on but you get the ideathat puzzle is the final result, final cumulation of this practice. its just the same element ~10 times in a row.1/2
>>3975975you can't bring up the starbucks toilet route that's supposed to be a secret
>>3975979I like to imagine the sudden bald cut her off mid-laugh, like the sound itself just cut out instantly.Replaced, drowned out, by the deafening silence of bald.
in fact i think i should talk about puzzles.there are two types to consider>flavor puzzlesminimal difficulty, meant as a vessel for humor and character interactions.these are toby's bread and butter. almost every single puzzle between UT/DR is a flavor puzzlethe lack of these in DRY is a major contributor to kanako feeling flat but thats not what i want to talk about.>"real" puzzlespuzzles meant for some level of difficulty.toby doesnt use these much, but that doesnt mean fangames cant.its obvious that DRYanon wants some real puzzles, but a lot of their executions fall flat. as the puzzles are just larger flavor puzzles.i'd suggest taking a look at some portal 1/2 puzzles for examples of what to dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaSJV08qMCca real puzzle shouldnt just be>where do all of these elements have to be to solve the puzzle?it should also be >how do i get these elements to where they need to be?the last mirror puzzle in the archives is a good example of a real puzzle, you can see the solution, you just need to figure out how to get the pieces to where they need to be.now lets go back to the final water puzzle, right now its problem is that its one dimensional. the "puzzle" is arranging the redirectors to get the water bullet from the start to the final switch.this is a decent base, but it needs more.so suppose kanako only has access to half of the switches. the other half are off to the sides and out of reach.half of the puzzle could be using the redirectors kanako has access to to put the others into position (cole should have more ammo in this case though.
>>3975977la luzma extinguido
>>3975985oop >>3975982
>>3975981maybe she said she'd play the game with him even if it was shit if he managed to get a perfect win on her, not a best out of 5 perfect but just one single perfect round.Maybe now she regrets not playing at least one round with him even if the game was terrible.
>>3975983I'm just saying, is it any surprise their designs eventually became shit too?It was honestly brilliant foreshadowing if you think about it.
>>3975915>forgot about the orange tip on the gun.That's probably my favorite detail. I am wondering how I could translate that to a battle sprite though. Orange is already reserved for a special bullet type, and I really dislike from when the games break from their bullet color conventions (I hate that Gerson's shell bullets are green because I always think they're healing bullets)>>3975928This may be the first sexual post I've seen about darkblade
>>3975989
>>3975984>the defeaning silence of baldholy shit, the bald is practically an SCP.
>>3975982>>3975985I don't agree with the magnitude of issue you've taken with it but I'm not looking to argue with you directly. I just hope that dryanon is taking both angles of feedback and not just the negative. I had a wonderful time with the game. I already typed up my thoughts on the game when it dropped.
>>3975965The game's only got two critics, and only one of them actually dislikes the game. Everyone else sees to be lovebombing it with how much they enjoyed it.
>>3975994maybe then it's just because I know one of them has posted their feelings on the game very frequently. Again, not dismissing their thoughts, It just feels like every time I open a thread I see a big breakdown on what someone disliked.
>>3975974Damn, he transed Clover. Though I guess that means Kanaclover might be back on the menu, but at what cost?
I was thinking about some of the scrimblos from here as I work on the sketch for my Bedo drawing, and I suddenly had a thought about Racter.If I asked Racter if a kilogram of steel weighed more than a kilogram of feathers, would he be too horrified at the implications of what I had to do to some random birds to obtain said kilogram of feathers to answer?
>>3975998>Racter... RAAAACTER * heavy breathing * I need to know Racter. Wont you tell me? >What's heavier. A kilogram of steel? or * wet inhaling sound* a kilogram of feathers
>>3975999>Racter, cowering in the corner and hyperventilating over the thought of what I did to those birds
>>3975990>I am wondering how I could translate that to a battle sprite thoughhonestly drawing a blank if it's black and white. I mean yeah you can make those fake guns black and white, but it doesn't really give it away without the color.
>>3975999the feathercide route is truly disturbing, if you go through with it you're a sick motherplucker
okay, how is this? based on the suggestion to zoom outit will be a pink monitor or something on the wall that only activates when kanako splits (I will add a sign explaining it on the puzzle prior to this one, but it starts blinking when kanako is split), so it zooms out and gives a view of the entire thing until you move or press a buttonit also gives cole something to do while kanako is out so that solves that issue too>>3975985>>3975982honestly I already struggle for days coming up with these puzzles, so I won't be changing them so much, but I will try to keep it in mind for future stuff
>>3976003would probably help with forgetting the position stuff was in.
>>3976002You must pluck the Racter.
>>3975990>That's probably my favorite detail. I am wondering how I could translate that to a battle sprite though.NTA, but you could probably make it some distinct other shade of orange, or another color, to signify the fake gun, like how some of the original UT's battlesprites have colors other than the standard black and white for some things, like Sans' eye, Asgore's trident, etc.>This may be the first sexual post I've seen about darkbladeI don't know if that one's sexual actually, that guy seems to just mention paws on sight whenever possible, like he's just letting everyone else know or something.
>>3975946What did Ceroba say to get Dina and Martlet looking at her like that
>>3976012>like he's just letting everyone else know or somethinghe's begging everyone to stop, to pause
>>3975990he's hyped up as an orange bullet boss.his gimmick is blue bullets
>>3976014Ah yes, of course.Darkblade does have some decent paws though.
>>3976003so for this puzzle, I changed it so that pressing the button starts a 10 second timer where the hint will then show, and slowly fade away. that should make it possible to do less trips if to the buttons if you're fast enough
>>3976020lastly, changed these walls to a grate so it is more obvious what it does
>>3976021you mentioned that you might add an extra water spot to the mirror room. did you end up doing that still?
>>3976022yes, it is already up in the latest gamejolt patch (and I added a sign explaining the force fields, it has a typo but I already fixed it for the next patch)
>>3976024good to hear, gonna replay it coming up and didn't want to do as much running around. I guess I could skip it since i know the password now but I feel like I should give it the full rounds.
slowly going through return to form. Almost missed the image links at the end of some of the chapters. I don't think I've seen this particular one before, even though the other one linked on that chapter has been posted a bunch. Though I hadn't found my way to the threads yet when these chapters were being done.
>>3975941By channeling the power of Billy Mitchell and playing like a dirty cheater, I was able to beat DRY and finish my write up. Surprisingly, once the gameplay got out of the way (because I cheated then went back to the light world where there is no gameplay) I actually had funhttps://rentry.org/anansDRYnotes2
>>3976037>Chujin's idea should do more than just the same thingevery time Not dry anon, but either that's a bug in the latest version, or some crazy cosmic chance happened.
>>3975982>the cube swap puzzle in the cloudsI actually didn't mind that one. Thought that may have been because I really liked the Lego Star Wars reference.I agree with the sentiment though. The other big issue is that it feels like it just shoves a lot of stuff in for padding's sake. Like an extra hazard or an extra bullet. "these rooms are too close together, better stick a bullet dodge sequence between them". I think he should cut down on the game's size and length if he doesn't have anything of substance to put between two major areas. There's nothing wrong with making a small game.
>>3976037>By channeling the power of Billy Mitchell and playing like a dirty cheaterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTqRx-F7ZqA
>>3976038I used it exclusively to attack toaster. If its supposed to be different then its bugged. He just kept throwing bombs and did it like four times.
>>3975988Bedo's equivelent of pouring one out for the fallen homies is playing a full arcade ladder of Ultimate Battle 22.
>>3976043for me he powered up kanako, healed kanako, threw out (I think) 2 kinds of bombs. Also scanning over what you said. I have to say I really like you're ideas on chujin. especially the idea that he could be worried about who the outlaw is. I haven't seen eye to eye on everything you've posted but it hit me in the face like "well wait, wouldn't that be how Chujin would view this? I'm gonna reread what you've said myself after I get some sleep but honestly yeah?
>>3975985>(cole should have more ammo in this case thoughHe should really make refilling the pistol faster. Also it really sucks that the capacimites just ceased to exist after the opening section of the dark world. Those were fun and would make a good puzzle element to expand upon.
>>3975998He'd probably answer then freeze midway through once he realizes how many feathers that would be.
>>3976044>she'd hardly ever even played the game. She knew a shit game when she saw one, and so she originally dropped it in a few hours.>This time though, when she got home, she hooked up the playstation, that kid seemed to be a little fond of this thing when he was... here.>part of her wanted to cringe as it hit the title screen, another part of her had already gotten used to someone being next to her holding the second controller. >This game really was pretty bad, but she recognized that Goku name. A weight settled in her chest as she played through the night.
>>3976003>okay, how is this? based on the suggestion to zoom outIts still cropping a portion of the puzzle off. Maybe if you had it fade into a more simpilified view with scaled up icons representing the puzzle elements. Then you could fit more of them on screen while still keeping things readable. It can be explained in universe as a computer display readout showing the state of all the the things in the room. >honestly I already struggle for days coming up with these puzzles, so I won't be changing them so muchYou really desperately need more playtesting, and you really desperately need to do it before things are in a "too finished to change" state. I would say if you can't come up with a way to make the puzzle challenging and still fun for playtesters then just replace it with an easy toby style puzzle. A major part of game development is knowing when to cut things, even if you put a lot of work into those things.
>>3976017Maybe the tips of his guns change color to telegraph his attack type.>>3976012Different shades don't really work. Red is basically the only color that the player isn't trained to associate with anything. Though I might be able to get by if the gun never enters the bullet box.>>3976019See. knew it was pawfaggotry, not that I'm judging. Do as you wish.
>>3976020>If you're fast enoughyou really don't want to be relying on that for puzzles. In this instance its fine, but puzzles are about critical thinking, not quick reactions. Different areas of the brain. Anyways I never had a problem with this section. I just made Kanako stand on the glowing spots to remember where they were.
>>3976021>>3976024This room could also do with that zoom out feature.
>>3976045>for me he powered up kanako, healed kanako, threw out (I think) 2 kinds of bombs.I keep Kanako on high health because she's my healer, so that might explain no heals, but it should have at least powered her up once. Honestly I think Chujin should throwing around suspicion like he's McCarthy during the red scare. Maybe reframe it so he's bonded to Cole specifically because they have a common enemy. The only people he knows for a fact aren't against him are Cole and Kanako, so that makes them automatically his friends. That really sounds like something Chujin would do.
>>3976068>spoilersthat seems a little extreme, at the very least, he'd absolutely include martlet and Ceroba in those ranks. He may not think he can tell those two what's going on for various reasons, but there's no way Chujin would get suspicious of martlet and Ceroba. always bet on roba outlaw. Westfire is back
>>3976054Now I'm imagining she learns the plot tot DBZ (or what little of it is there) through UB22, then is actually somewhat knowledgable about DBZ when Val gets revived post UT pacifist.
>>3976073>spoiler Honestly, I'm starting to suspect Gizmo outlaw. When questioning Sadie about what she saw in Kanako's house, he said that the guy who trashed Dina's was probably the one who broke into Kanako's house, despite Kanako never mentioning what actually happened in her house to him. That might just be a writer's error though, JoJo has trained my bullshit detector to be extra sensitive to slip ups like that, so I often get false positives because the author made a mistake. I don't think he'd suspect them, but he may not tell them for fear of loose lips or rash actions. Martlet is clumsy and naive, she would slip up and tell people. Ceroba would go on the warpath.Also, what is Westfire?
>>3976075I'm imagining that it maybe twists her heart a bit to find out who goku is. I didn't get the impression that she's the HUGELY EMOTIONAL TYPE like say martlet, from talking to naranjanon earlier, but putting two and two together from when the kid had brought up Goku, it probably wouldn't feel great wondering why a kid would put himself in life or death situations because of a cartoon character.Maybe from then on, it would make her feel a bit better about things just collecting any odd dbz things that managed to drift down to the underground. After all, she'd have no idea that the kid was going to possibly come back to life.Still, thinking that game is shit, maybe she'd offer to play it with him when he did come back, and val would refuse because he accepted her deal that he had to get a perfect win in something.
>>3976081>I don't think he'd suspect them, but he may not tell them for fear of loose lips or rash actions. Martlet is clumsy and naive, she would slip up and tell people. Ceroba would go on the warpath.that I can accept. I just wanted to reframe it because I think those two would be in a special category in chujins mind, even if SOMEHOW it did end up being one of them.>Also, what is Westfire?one of the greens from the old threads. It's ceroba after she gets hypnotized (non-fetish) when trying to learn wild west culture more for clover because she feels bad for making clover feel bad one day.
>>3976081>Also, what is Westfire?https://rentry.org/bon5m25h
>>3976083Maybe because the Underground gets all of its surface stuff from the dump, the only stuff Luzma can get her hands on are really bad Dragonball stuff. She has GT Final Bout, UB22, the live action movie, and a bootleg VHS of a couple of episodes of the big green dub. So her knowledge of DB is still really limited and based on bad sources.Maybe with the barrier broken Val can introduce her to a good game like BT3.
>>3976086I wasn't expecting femstarlo at the end.That aside, cowboy hypnosis involving Roba sounds like one of Starlo's sexual fantasies.
>>3976088Monsters form attachments fast, so in a way, all of this bad content is comforting to have around. she doesn't plaster her wall with shitty dbz memorabilia, but maybe she keeps the new things she finds in a box, playing one of the bad games when she's feeling complicated over that letter about the rematch. Maybe she couldn't bring herself to throw that away either.On the surface when val refuses to play 22 until he's won the conditions, maybe he shows her BT3 because since it's not 22 it's not part of the deal. She goes into it expecting it to be as bad as every other dbz game she's managed to find, and is genuinely caught of guard by it being fun.Val still wants to get that perfect win and play 22. even if it's a shitty game. Even if he knows it's a shitty game and doesn't care.
>>3976037>With Gizmo sneaking through Sadie's window being a regular ocurrence, I am almost certain they are an item. What???>Didn't go on a date with KanakoNgmi...
>>3976092Val kicks her ass at BT3 because its a 3d fighter, while Bedo is used to 2d fighters, and Val has played the absolute shit out of it. While playing Bedo is amazed how little she knew about the show despite having played two games and watched the movie. After they do finally play UB22, Val agrees its awful, but moreso because of how bad its roster is. It barely has any of the cool characters. Then he and her watch actual DBZ together. (I don't know which version though, would Val watch sub, english dub, or spanish dub?)
>>3976059>Red is basically the only color that the player isn't trained to associate with anything.Except for the soul itself.>Though I might be able to get by if the gun never enters the bullet box.There is also the much funnier option of having the tip of the gun be colored orange *and* having it do orange damage to anything that it touches directly for no reason.>See. knew it was pawfaggotry, not that I'm judging. Do as you wish.Oh, I'm a pawfag, yeah, but that doesn't mean the original guy is.
>>3976095>Didn't go on a date with KanakoNo, I did. Got it without even trying to. Returned the mirror too. Bit surprised the miners just left that hole there, you'd think they'd at least put a net there to prevent anything from happening. But I suppose that's probably because we're gonna have to go down it at some point.>What???You don't remember the part where he helps you break into Sadie's house through the back window, him saying he does it all the time, and Sadie confirming that he does it all the time. Then there's Sadie's parents being out of town almost all the time and the way Gizmo instantly makes himself at hoime and starts playing vidya on her TV. Its obvious he spends a lot of time with Sadie at her house and does a lot of stereotypical boyfriend things there.
>>3976097Probably the spanish dub im guessing, if Bedo can understand it. I'd imagine it would be the most, nostalgic isnt quite the word but its probably how he experiencednit first himself Id guess?Also while Val isnt a gamer, beating her in BT3 probably doesnt make him not want to get the win in the games she beat him in back then.
Now I'm seriously considering Gizmo outlaw. We've taken it for granted that Bearing was Sadie's teddybear, but in chapter 2 Gizmo mentions he has plushies at home too. So maybe Bearing was his toy. Cats can be pretty rough with their toys.
>>3976099>Except for the soul itself.It isn't associated with a bullet type. Though now that I think aout it neither is purple.>There is also the much funnier option of having the tip of the gun be colored orange *and* having it do orange damage to anything that it touches directly for no reason.That is funny, but I don't know if I'd be able to use that.>Oh, I'm a pawfag, yeah, so I did draw them good?
>>3976101Good, did you get the mooch hangout as well? And did you get the starlo tape?>Does stereotypical boyfriend stuff"Item" is a slang for being someone's partner?
>>3976103And while I'm talking about Gizmo, I'm wondering if Vergil and that cat bandit lady are his parents. One of them is green and the other is a cat, so combined that could make a green cat. Doesn't explain why they're both badass bandits, but he's a goofy little nerd. Though maybe that's just his outward persona and he actually does take after his parents in some more secret ways.
>>3976105>"Item" is a slang for being someone's partner?its a slang term for a couple, as in a pair of romantic partners in a relationship.>, did you get the mooch hangout as wellNo>the tapeyeah, was fun. I can't imagine Starlo was a big TV star. At best it was a public access show or lesser know tv show on one of the smaller networks.
>>3976104>It isn't associated with a bullet type. Though now that I think aout it neither is purple.Yeah, UT doesn't actually make use of all the colors it shows off as being part of its style.Also, while I'm at it, UT technically has multiple distinct blue colors, the light blue and the dark blue seen in those two human souls, so you could theoretically do the same with orange, if you found a good enough looking second orange color for UT's art style.>That is funny, but I don't know if I'd be able to use that.Probably not, but it would be really funny.Plus, if you have the tip of the gun almost never enter the bullet box anyway, then you can make the fact that it actually behaves like an orange attack a secret, since it'd be hard to actually see during the course of normal gameplay.>so I did draw them good?Eh, think I just have poor standards.I'd be lying if I said seeing his paws didn't give me ideas though, in the same way that Rubyquest describing Red as "standing on his toes" when he stood on top of that barrel gave me some mental images too, but that's just a me thing.
>>3976109>so you could theoretically do the same with orange, if you found a good enough looking second orange color for UT's art style.It isn't an issue of lore or aesthetics, its a readability problem. I don't think players would be able to tell light and dark blue apart when dodging bullets.>Rubyquest describing Red as "standing on his toes" when he stood on top of that barrel gave me some mental images too,That's giving me a mental image of you ogling him while he's doing it.
>>3976037I don't think anybody ever said about Chujin involving the authorities. I just think that it should be explained why he isn't researching/going to the dark worlds along with the Justice Crew...
>>3976115That's easy, he's investigating in the light world while Kanacole always end up being the ones to run into the dark worlds. Unlike them he's not a fighter, so he's not suited to go into the front lines.
>>3976111>It isn't an issue of lore or aesthetics, its a readability problem. I don't think players would be able to tell light and dark blue apart when dodging bullets.Ehh, maybe?My eyesight's pretty good, so I can tell apart those colors at a glance, but I guess some other people might not be so capable of such a thing.I guess maybe it depends on how much each color would actually be on screen at the same time as any other color.Honestly, I don't have a great solution to that, but I do feel like there is an actual way to handle that properly. I guess you could try experimenting with different approaches to it, whenever you'd be far enough along in development to actually start messing around with stuff like that.>That's giving me a mental image of you ogling him while he's doing it.I...I would, yeah.I'm a massive freak, I can't really help that. I've even had a few ideas about that sort of stuff for Reynault, though those ideas are largely comedic in nature, due to the fact that he doesn't actually possess paws (anymore).Sidenote, I found out Weaver did a weird little quest called Surprise Sex Quest at one point, which was basically just Rubyquest but with slightly different versions of all the characters.It unfortunately never reached any actual conclusion, just abruptly ending after a while, but it did last long enough to show off an alternate version of Red, very creatively named Orange, who's depicted as being an easily flustered mess, and I love him so much.
>>3976133Where can I read that?
>>3976135Right here: https://questden.org/kusaba/questarch/res/14786.htmlThis was written somewhat shortly after Rubyquest itself had ended, so the comic largely parodies events from Rubyquest proper.Like I said, it never actually had an ending, so don't go into it expecting it to go much of anywhere.Still, funny little thing it is.
Is queztali quezt guy still amongst us?
Welp, I'm going to bed.I got some work done on the Bedo image, but not as much as I'd have liked, so I'm not sure if I'll really be able to have it done in two sessions like I'd hoped.I went to lie down for a brief while to just rest my eyes for a few minutes earlier because I was tired, started imagining having my ears scratched by Reynault, and then passed out for a little under an hour on top of my bed, not even under the covers, resulting in a severe loss of drawing time.Irony is, now I'm much less tired.Scrimblos, not even once.Anyway, I'll try to make sure this Bedo "slilk" drawing doesn't turn into a week-long venture.
>>3976115>>3976118He also doesn't know how the fountains work or are opened, and neither Kanako nor Cole told him about the Dark Jail. He can't really much besides keep an eye out for anyone sneaking around acting suspicious.Hilariously, this works quite well in the case of Mooch being the Outlaw, since he's probably used to Mooch being a sneak and wouldn't see anything out of the ordinary with her.
>>3975909>Either her feet and torso need to go to the right, or her head needs to go to the left. This is something I've had a lot of trouble with myself, its easy to make cartoon characters like these look really off balance.Like this? I think see now what you meant.
just met chujin and stopped, so far DRY is really goodi'll update this with further doodles/color once i wake up and finish chapter 2
oh yeah.all of this, >>>/v/737737065>>>/v/737757385>>3975032>>3975037>>3975982>>3975985and there is one rather massive thing i forgot to mention.the "yellow paint"/handholdy design in generalyellow arrows were PLASTERED EVERYWHERE in chapter 2. it felt like i couldnt walk five feet without the game shoving yellow fucking paint in my face even when it was completely needlessdont do that shit. it really soured the whole experience.i mean fuck, these screenshots too >>3976020 >>3976021 >>3976024how can you look at these and not say that you're making a joke of your own game by treating the player like a toddler that wont think to interact with anything if constant stand out reminders arent put on everything?
>>3976207oh fuck! more DRY art from sig
>>3976057the zoom can only go to the current level since it is still a multiple of the resolution, further than this will crunch the sprites up. at most I could move the first one to be in the image, I'll think more about itthe map idea would require making new assets so I won't bother with it at this moment, maybe later. for now this will do>>3976064will consider it>>3976209no joke that is needed mainly because the wall signs blend a bit with the walls so even my few playtesters kept missing them, I know it is an issue with the sprite work but I don't know how to fix it (specially since all tiles are reused from somewhere else in UT/DR), at most I will add another joke NPC about it even if I already did in ch 1>>3976207nice art, thanks
BEHOLD! KANAKO!
>>3976250>>3976209just thought of an idea, maybe make the signs animated so they catch your eye more easilywill see how that looks
>>3976252Did this drawanon draw more Kanako x Cole? Or was this the only image they drew?
>>3976264>>3976064there, now the introduction for the zoom out panels is here, and I made the signs animated and removed the arrows. though I added those lines connecting what the signs are talking about so it is easier to know that at leastalso added the ability to pan the camera a bit while zoomed out
>>3976204middle feels the most balanced
>>3976166Kanako and Cole probably should tell him about those things. I think having Chujin become part of the investigation would work really well, and conversely with how its set up, would feel weird if it didn't happen with how much he currently knows.
>>3976207The ultimate hug technique.
>>3976209I'm gonna have to hard disagree with you there. I have a lot of criticisms of DRY and actively disliked playing it, but those visual elements both make sense and are necessary for the player to understand the puzzle. First of all, dark worlds are meant to be like video games in universe. It not only makes sense for them to be like that, it actively makes more sense for them to be like that than not. And not only is this a dark world, its specifically a robot themed dark world. Makes perfect sense for the place to have flashing hazard lights and electrical diagrams all over it. Out of universe, these are puzzles, the player needs visual cues to understand which thing does what.Those lines on the floor and the yellow signs are the same thing portal does to communicate to the player what they're supposed to do. And do you know the reason Valve implemented those elements? Because in their heavy playtesting they found that it was vital to guiding the player so that they would know which elements are puzzle elements and which aren't.I think you've let RE4's unnecessary and terrible implementation of it poison the idea of fundamental and basic concept and game design in your mind.
>>3976250>the map idea would require making new assets so I won't bother with it at this momentThose new assets don't have to be complicated. They're images on an in universe computer, they can literally just be colored squares and lines and it would for the purpose that's needed. Just have a bunch of colored suqares with arrows coming off of them for the directional stuff, squares with no arrow for switched, and two souls for Kanako and Clover.>for now this will doI'm telling you it won't. At least add a way to pan the zoomed out picture around if you aren't willing to whip up some basic squares in ms paint.> because the wall signs blend a bit with the walls so even my few playtesters kept missing themMake them brighter and more contrasting, add a blinking cursor, and if the player talks with Kanako in that room, have her point them out.
>>3976250>I know it is an issue with the sprite work but I don't know how to fix itthere are a few methods>animation/highlightingas you've done with the signs, parts to interact with or are of note should be animated.this can be done with other tricks than animation too, like lighting in a darker room or making the object clearly stand out among similar objects (like having nearby things be flat in shading so that the target stands out among them.)>acclimationhave an early room thats somewhat devoid except for the example mechanic/interactable that you want players to be more aware of. a tutorial, essentially.for example if the signs were still unanimated, you could have one early on robotopia that's the only decoration on a certain wall.>leadingthis is the big one, using another thing to bring the player's attention to the target thing.take the first water puzzle for example. there are arrows on the ledge pointing over to the carmite(?) platform.a few different methods come to mind to drag the player's attention over>moving the hint sign a bit closer so that when you go to read it, you'll see part of the platform and are naturally inclined to investigate more.>worn out spots in place of the arrows, where robots have stood to solve the puzzle themselves.>the carmite wire is a visually present connector going from beneath the shooting platform to below the carmite platform. showing that something is connected on the other side.>catwalk grating as the last column of tiles (highlighting method, being stand out in that its a different group of floor tiles)any one of these would be a good enough change to remove the need for yellow paint arrows.additionally, instead of a hint sign, how about a water gun bot in that room lamenting about the fact that his tank is broken making it so that he cannot solve the puzzle and get to the factory.this serves as a more immersive introduction to the puzzle and acts as a vessel for a bit of humor.>>3976314picrel
>>3976250Another thing you should do is make refilling Cole's water pistol instant. Get rid of the delay while he's filling it and the dialogue telling you its filled. Just make the player instantly bale to shoot water bullets after pressing Z on the fountain. The sound effect and the water bullet graphic should be enough. Would also say you should add more water fountains.
>>3976297Make the flashing slower, now its kinda annoying. Maybe just make it flash slowly every couple of seconds.Also extend the range of the panning to the right some. That would help greatly.And yes this is a lot better, thank you.
>>3976207>the almost stern expression when she says no to the bell>the concerned expression when she says no to the trash bummer
>>3976316>picrelOh you meant specifically just the yellow arrows. I thought you meant all the visual elements designed to guide the player's eye. Anyways, Portal does the arrow thing too. Basically every button has an arrow or a number next to it to show what its controlling along with a glyph to show what it will specifically make that thing do. All the lifts and scaffolds have arrows showing which direction they will move. It uses arrows everywhere.I will agree having them haphazardly painted on is an issue. I would say make them look like an intentional part of the design, professionaly painted on, or as holographic elements of the computer world, and it would make sense. Computers have a lot of in your face UI elements, as do machines in general, so it would fit in the archives and in Robotopia.> instead of a hint signI think the hint signs make sense in the context of Robotopia basically being a giant industrial complex. Though more opportunities are humor are always good. Be careful though, sometimes humor cana get in the way of the intended message, like it did when he tried to teach the player about getting more money by fighting in chapter 1. The humor actively made players recieve the opposite message.All that stuff you suggested is good though. I just didn't bother suggesting them because it seems DRYanon isn't willing to make major changes to chapter 2 anymore, and new assets and level geometry edits sound like they'd be too much.
>>3976045>>3976037So giving it some more thought, I think the Chujin thing makes a lot of sense. Someone said that he hasn't been told that the outlaw is a thing, and so maybe he should be. give him an angle where he's not happy about letting kanako and cole keep up this dark world thing, that he's genuinely concerned about it, but not knowing who the outlaw is, anyone they could go talk to may inadvertently be the outlaw or be connected to him. Chujin is a smart man despite his failings, so that's a good conclusion for him to reach. Then that combined with the fact that he knows charging into the dark worlds alongside kanako and clover would put them in greater danger since he's not a fighter, and maybe he has a bit of a serious tone, talking with the glasses obscuring his eyes sprite as he talks about investigating the best he can, while providing support with things like axis.Then a final angle of him restating that he's REALLY not happy about this but... he feels like he can trust Cole, so please, please take care of Kanako.then of course the idea of not telling Ceroba because she's liable to do something rash, and Chujins already worried enough with Kanako being unwilling to take no for an answer, and Martlet has enough on her plate already, plus she might start blabbing.Oh, and maybe what that one anon said, Chujin avoiding talking about it because "no one would take it seriously anyways" as a parallel to his UTY character. I think it can be made to work out really well that Chujin allows things to keep going as they are.
>>3976207Great! Is that a cheese grater in bottom left?
>>3976328I think it's a cowbell
>>3976207Did you know that you can actually ring the bell while kanako is away? If you do it twice, then decibat leaves town and you get a stern letter from Starlo on the next day
>>3976326I think you should also have Chujin lament how he can't help more directly. Maybe a comment about him feeling old because Kanako has to act on her own, or something about "its always like this" if you want to play off him always being physically powerless in violent confrontations. I do think you could have him come to the dark jail though, if only because that place is safe enough, and would serve as a good plce for exposition. It could have the Warden drive home to Chujin just how much of a liability in battle he is, since the Warden has meta awareness enough to know things like that. Then you can have Chujin, being the inquisitive man he is, ask the warden some more difficult questions, which would move the plot forward and clue the audience in to more elements of the story. And on top of that it can make the less observent players aware of the moral question of spare vs capture. Since even with what's going on, Chujin probably wouldn't approve of stealing people's things to lock them up in the dark jail. He is an engineer after all, and would believe that machines actions are the fault of their users. He'd say all of this is the Outlaw's fault, not the darkners, and that if they eliminate the Outlaw, it will solve the problem of rogue darkners. And on the flipside, arresting "criminals" is just stealing from people in the light world, and doesn't actually contribute to solving the problem. He could point this out regardless of whether you capture toaster or not, but would ultimtely yield to your judgement on the matter, even if he disapproves.His disagreement with the warden on this matter could even explain why he stays in the light world for most of the investigation, since he doesn't want to go to the dark jail and have another pointless fight when he could be doing something productive instead.
>>3976339I think all of this goes a long way in reframing Chujin from being "an irresponsible idiot letting his daughter put herself in danger" and instead "another man caught up in this problem trying to help where he can" without shoehorning him into every dark world, because I'm pretty sure that at least, DRYanon doesn't want.
>>3976339>Warden gets physically frustrated when kanacole keeps bringing randoms in>first it was innocent darkners>then her father>then the stupid ballerina and a cat>then the bugWould be cool if somebody tried to make Dark Jail more like a living place like Castle Town, and Warden being absolutely livid and mad about it
>>3976345I just want to see the clash of values between the Warden and Chujin. Would be good characterization for both of them.
>>3976345>and then the outlaw and then-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkQMqXr0MQEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9r79sQABYgNew Butterscotch update heavily optimized the code. Performance is much better in heavy scenes now.
>>3976003Oh if you're the dev here's what I thought of DRY>>3975508>>3975509
>>3976350>and Gendalf the Great, and Gendalf the White, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight, and Bennito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie, Cowboy Curtis, Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk and Darth Wader, every single Power Ranger
>>3976323added a bigger delay on the flashing>>3976339>>3976342>>3976345>>3976326I didn't have any plans for chujin to go to dark jail but this is making me want to do something, so I will think about it>>3976353yes, I checked your feedback and will try to address some things like the talk, though I honestly sometimes just have no idea of what to write for some parts which is why its blank>Is there no storage at all for the Fury route?that is partially intended yes
>>3976345Warden's staunch disapproval of populating the jail more than necessary is the main reason I like the idea of him being a faded flier warning about the instability of the mine in the light world. Anything that could progress the mine closer to a collapse is strictly prohibited, and the only Darkners that should be brought to the jail are the ones who pose further risk being free and disrupting other dark worlds than restrained in the jail.
>>3976355>every single RBG ranger*The warden is gonna be fuckin PISSED when we're done here.Fuck it I'm inviting Val to the jail too. lots of strong darkners for him to waku waku
>>3976355poor Jambi the Genie
>>3976357>Spoiler I think it would go a long way into explaining why he doesn't show up more. At the very least uf you don't have him show up there you still need to explicitly explain why he doesn't and why he doesn't show up in future dark worlds. Like maybe he tries to enter with,Kanako and Cole, but the door is locked whenever he tries to enter. Then when he's told to wait outside, Kanako and Cole are able yo to enter. With that being explained as a security measure the Warden installed to keep out the Outlaw after that previous break in.
>>3976363>>3976357I feel like him having the confrontation, as well as coming to terms with his role in the situation is a better character moment than him being simply locked out honestly.
>>3976355I'm hoping DRY ends like this. You and every supporting character jumping the final boss to force a good ending despite their alotted fate.
>>3976363>Chujin watches from the chair while Kanako and Cole "go to the dark jail"
>>3976366>the final boss is overconfident, and for good reason. Everything is in order, he's got his plan in motion and he's simple TOO STRONG TO BE STOPPED.>then he does the thumb pose>almost on cue, the door swings open and all of the cast just start piling into the room.
>>3976365I think that too. I was just offering that as a bare minimum change alternative for if DRYanon isn't willing to do that. Chujin getting a scene in the dark jail is preferred. I honestly want Chujin to have a role a bit like Jotaro in part 4 (minus the fighting) where's he's just going around investigating while the main protagonists engage in the day to day battles.
>>3976371incidentally jotaro is a better character in part 4 than 3 since he didn't have what it took to be an interesting main character, but he worked well as being a side character, so I can see how that would work.
>>3976351very neat, I could play Undertale on a real CRT someday
>>3976367Better than "Chujin hides in the closet and pretends Kanako and Cole aren't going to the dark jail"
>>3976374You can do that right now. I already did.
>>3976376>Chujin joins in and "goes to the dark jail" with Kanako and Cole as a three person team
Maybe Chujins initial justification for wanting to go to the dark jail, is to check and see how his repairs to Axis translated into a Dark world, and wanted to make sure it was all in order, and he doesn't voice it until he's there, but he also wanted to have a word with the warden. Would be a reason enough that it wouldn't throw up red flags for Kanako on him going there I think.
>>3976368Maybe its a relay battle where three parties of three (Kanacole and Axis in party 1, Sadie Gizmo and Melody in party 2, and future party member darkners in group 3) where each one has a long and difficult phase they have to battle through, and throughout the fight they're getting support from people like Chujin and Martlet. Then at the last minute when they lose anyways, the rest of the darkners you befriend come in and deal the finishing blow.
>>3976365>>3976371>>3976380what if chujin decides to instead try making shit for cole and kanako to use in the dark worlds?>he goes to the dark jail once just to check it out and see if his axis repairs worked>being the decently intelligent man that he is he gets a good grasp on how darkners and items are formed.>spends chapter 3 making some goodies for cole and kanako>chapter 4 he gives kanako a portable box, and a set of high tech weapons/armor for cole and kanako to use
>>3976381fighting him in phases like the Kefka fight or a relay in some way sounds really cool. Maybe each party has an objective and has to beat whatever phase of the final boss is stopping them before the next relay group can do theirs.then they are supposed to all regroup and do a final objective, but they can't do it, not strong enough, or the final boss makes the path inaccessible, and so the other darkners show up or someone shows up with the real flashlight, shining it on the obstacle opening the path
>>3976384Yes, that was proposed in the previous thread
>>3976380I think him not quite being willing to accept to letting Kanako go without him is a good enough justification. He could use what you said as an excuse, but it should be obvious he really just wants to do more, and that's why he's coming along. Then once he gets there and has that talk with the Warden, it sinks in just how much of a liability he is in the dark world. It could absolutely throw up red flags, but because he's her dad she can't just flat out tell him no. He has to decide for himself that's its better if he stays behind.
>>3976384I'd like that a lot personally, but I'd be fond of him having it out with the warden in some capacity, even just butting heads with him ideologically.
>>3976373I agree, but isn't Jotaro the most popular JoJo in Japan? Alongside part 3 being the most popular part?
>>3976387yeah actually, you're right. And that would emphasize his fatherly role handling it that way, handling issues of his "irresponsibility" that people complained about.
>>3976389I'm pretty sure he is, but honestly part 3 is really weak. I'm going back through it right now to make sure I'm not just remembering it unkindly, but the stands aren't as interesting since it was the introduction of stands, Jotaros manner of fighting is extremely straight forward and generally pretty asspully but not in the cool jojo way, and rather just "and here's star finger!"Jotaro himself is an extremely weak character, but he's "cool and badass" which goes over well in japan. I mean yeah he can be fun at times, but Josuke was a massive improvement as far as actual characterization despite being another overtly powerful stand. giorno is the absolute weakest jojo characterization wise. .but back to the topic, Chujin has character points, really good ones, but he's not built to be a main character. He has enough going for him to be involved in the plot as a secondary character though and really contribute a lot, and make him feel like a much more developed character, whereas if he was made to follow the party every single chapter, it would be a case of constantly putting out fires and adding answers for why he does xy or z
>>3976384I think he should do that too. I just think he should also be investigating. Maybe he starts studying the dark worlds to try and help with the investigation. He can't go there in person, but he has Axis, so he installs monitoring equipment in Axis, and uses that to gather data on dark worlds. Then when Kanako brings Axis back to him at the end of each day he can check the data and continue his investigation, and he also gives the party an item made from the knowledge gleaned from his findings, thus making it another light world side quest. Plus if DRYanon has any big twists planned or ddark world world building he wanted to share, this would be a good way to foreshadow or explain it.
>>3976385Maybe instead of being a single boss, its one big final challenge. The Outlaw is still a boss, but there are other threats and problems which Kanako and Cole alone aren't enough to deal with. Like maybe its a whole final dark world that takes a small army to actually beat.
>>3976384>Chujin spends all night laboring furiously in the shop>hands Kanako a goodie bag for the next trip>her and Cole enter the next dark world>they aren't alone when they arrive>GREETINGS. I AM NEW SUPERIOR MODEL AXIS MODEL 015.>covered in glue from how much Chujin rushed it, splotchy paint job that wasn't given time to dry>spends every moment, until Kanacole can ditch it, chaperoning them, keeping them away from danger reminding them to do their schoolwork after all this is over>see it near the end of the chapter in a saloon, drunk on battery acid, caterwauling about how hard it tries and how it can't get Kanako to respect it
>>3976396>the final act>round up the posse, the outlaw aint goin down without a fightI like it. a genuine war against the end of the world pretty much.>>3976397here I go feeling bad for a character that doesn't exist again.
>>3976388Nta, but I think capture vs lose is a very strong central conflict to give the player. On par with mercy vs fight. It gets the player to genuinely consider not only what's best mechanically, but what the best choice is morally as well. Chujin butting heads with the Warden over that issue would be a great narrative addition.
>>3976400yeah, right now aside from some peoples feelings on bunbun Capture feels like "the choice". the thing you're simply supposed to do. That would add some ambiguity and play into justice themes.
>>3976391And it ties in with Kanako growing up and becoming her own person, independent of her parents. Chujin probably has to reckon with that anyways since she's growing into a young woman, and this adds a nice narrative tie in to it.
>>3976394That's why I'm saying its better to explain explicitly why he's not tagging along now and give him something better to do, then to kick that can down the road and handwave it.
>>3976397Maybe they can talk it into guarding the jail
>>3976404yeah, no I'm in agreement here. The part 4 analogy makes a lot of sense to me personally my favorite part and it's not even close >>3976402that kind of development between them is also forshadowed some in chapter 2 so yeah it feels fitting imo
>>3976401Undertale really makes good arguments for both spare and kill early game. Mercy feels good and its very obvious these monsters are all good people who don't deserve to die, but at the same time they keep getting stronger while you don't, and you don't know what kind of threats you'll face in the future. Maybe you should spare these guys, but what if you meet someone like Flowey who actually needs to die. It causes the player's good rpg sense to run against their morals, then adds that narrative reason of Flowey being a constant threat on top of that.
>>3976398I didn't even consider the posse angle. Shit that would be kino. The Outlaw's set the final stage of its plan into motion, dug itself in, surrounded itself with an army of tough as nails darkners , and dared you ro come in after it. So you gather a posse of good men and charge in, to bring justice, come hell or high water.
>>3976409>Cole and his posse step into the final dark world. The varmints here call it the wild east. There's a false sun shining dark light upon them as the outlaw makes ready his last stand. Its now or never, let justice be done. Coles not alone, his posse wont let him carry this fight by himself. He tips his hat forward, prepared for the final fight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWtqc4ERo4A&list=RDxWtqc4ERo4A&start_radio=1
>>3976408it does, though for me the game felt too easy for me to ever actually want to weigh that call. Even sans is too easy at LV 1. Conceptually though, you're right. And I think a lot of people did view it that way.
>>3976411You know if you delete everything after &list it'll just send the song instead of a YouTube mix, right?
>>3976414I didn't even take note of it. I simply searched "timesplitters 2 wild west" and I guess it automatically pulled up a playlist.
>>3976413Yeah but a first time player doesn't know that the game is perfectly doable at lv 1. Every time I've seen someone play Undertale, they always get conflicted over thinking they'll need the lvs later.
>>3976416for me I saw the option to not kill and just felt like "bet"so I may have approached it differently than the average player. "1 LV is all I need motherfuckers."
>>3976413>spoilerI always wondered what kind of player these edgy kaizo-tier fights were aimed at, guess you're ithttps://youtube.com/watch?v=iUYb11rE9Q4
>>3976418Val...
>>3976419I used to love challenge runs of just about everything, but the bastardization of the characters in those always turned me away from actually trying them.Plus some of them get the "soul movement wrong" if that makes sense. It's like playing a mega man game, mega man jumps with a certain weight and timing, and when someone makes a fan game in their own engine you can feel that its off.I wanted to do a LV 1 Zartlet fight but I don't know if there's a save editor for yellow, I'm not smart enough to do it myself, and I think I may have become too attached to the character >>3976420 Waku waku suru zo...
>>3976342I don't think anybody wanted Chujin in every dark world, what was needed is something to explain why he doesn't
>>3976424sorry, I was only mentioning that because I thought I may have seen dryanon say something like that he wanted to avoid that. Though I could be misremembering.
>>3976291They drew this follow up image after the one you posted.Let's just say Kanako gets what she wants from Cole, and Chujin will definitely lose it.https://files.catbox.moe/u41uqz.png
>>3976423That makes sense to me, though I've had a positive experience with how UTDR fangames feel (but I avoid anything that looks like the video I linked for other reasons). How do you feel about the Megamix Engine, a Megaman recreation in Game Maker that the MaGMML contests are made in? It feels very good to me, especially Episode Zero which has classic Megaman physics but also some of Zero's abilities like an air dash.
>>3976430last time I played a MaGMML it felt very good. I don't remember having an issue with the way the controls felt, though I remember the first stage I tried felt like total ass to play from a design standpoint, but I'm pretty sure they load stages that aren't highly voted or whatever in there too don't they? either way I just remember one of the stages really sucking but that will happen sometimes. So yeah no complaints about that engine overall.A good example of one I hated was that megaman x street fighter game that capacom "adopted" when they were shitting the bed on megaman PR. it was a fangame and they just took it and said "hey look, anniversary!"the jumping was wrong, the slide to go under ryus spin kick was wrong because you make physical contact with his frame and that's a big "no" on megaman. So on so forth.And yeah, a lot of ut/dr fangames do seem to have it right. I've heard a lot of the single fights are done in an already existing engine that's good for just making those fights so I guess it makes sense.then you have youtube videos where you can spot suddenly "this isn't a real fight, it's an animation" because the soul moves at inconsistent speeds.and yeah, its fine to make animations like that, but when I notice, it bothers me.
>>3976431I strongly agree with what you said about SFxMM, it felt very off from what I remember and I didn't bother finishing it. I've put up with some bad fangames like Megaman Unlimited just because they felt right and looked right, but bad physics are a dealbreaker.
>>3976434It's a bit of a breath of fresh air hearing that honestly, because I remember hearing a lot of "oh you're complaining just to complain. you've got a mega man game like you've been asking for" back when that dropped.I should try unlimited but I just never had the heart to give it a swing.when it comes to UTY itself, I may have been a bit hesitant to try it originally because I was worried it would have that kind of jank to it. I'd much rather have what we got with there being some flaws than that just completely incongruent "what the fuck is this" feeling.
>>3976420Ironic since Val starts the game being LV2
>>3976437>val forever denied the LV 1 challenge run
>>3976438>Val purposely injuring himself at the start of each fight so he can do a lv 1 run.
>>3976443>Luzma figured she'd humor the kid with a fight, little punk was worth a good laugh anyways>this fucking kid punches himself clean in the face on his first turn>seriously what do you even do with that, how are you supposed to respond?I'm curious if the reason Val is at LV 2 will be hinted at in the game, answered directly, or be left completely ambiguous. Like will people be coming up with different versions of how it could have happened based on what route their val took?
>>3976445Maybe he accidentally killed someone, or at least thinks he did. Like he was playing some rough game with another kid, then the kid ended up getting injured in such a way that he died. He was really young at the time, and would have had no reason to expect that the kid would have died from it, so tge authorities ruled it an accident and let him off. However in his mind, he killed that kid.
>>3976448That would be a pretty good angle, though I'm not ruling the possibility out that he got in a bad situation either.I imagine that in the start of naranja, Val has to be someone who in theory could go on any of the routes (even if he's probably predisposed to certain ones) so him being a psycho killer (when he was on the surface) who killed someone else for fun feels like too much. Kid has to get a bit more LV before I could buy that. Maybe that accidental kill spurred on some of his later beliefs, and now he's just as likely to bardock the underground as he is to goku it.
Me personally I'm sort of a fan of the interpretation that while gaining EXP inevitably increases your LOVE, you can gain LOVE without gaining EXP.
>>3976456so like, by being exposed to certain things, being put in violent situations and the like? At least I assume this isn't just the Axis situation but maybe a bit more broad? If so, then if Val lived in a situation where he had to do whatever it took to survive, even if that didn't actually end up involving gaining EXP, he could have gained some LV
>>3976457LOVE is specifically said to be a way of measuring one's capacity to hurt, the capacity to emotionally distance yourself to hurt others.It's probably more meant to be a straightforward association, your stats for attacking people go up when you kill enough people, but the fact that the two are also abstract categories does leave room for the interpretation that anyone has the capacity for the emotional numbness needed to hurt others without explicitly coming from the emotional numbness of inflicting pain on other people and wearing down your innate understanding that that is wrong.
>>3976454I'm not saying he killed that kid on purpose ir that he got a taste for killing from that. It was an honest accident. It just desensitized Val to the concept of killing. It came, it went, and nothing really came of it. It took this big horrible thing and made it just a little bit more mundane.
>>3976460I could see that, but I think there would have to be a limit of how far that could go without actually hurting others. Hitting LV 20 without blood on your hands at all should be impossible. What you're saying makes sense and fits the way the concepts are described in the judgement hall, and not everyone who hasn't killed is on the same level of "unwillingness to hurt others" but people almost start physically changing after a certain LV it sounds like
>>3976462that would be a good set up for a Val who could potentially kill underground, but could also potentially not. If it ended up not being a big deal, no special consequence, no fanfare, then underground he's just fighting and getting stronger and having cool fights, getting of course more and more desensitized who's gonna clean up this mess but being desensitized like that doesn't necessarily mean he WILL seek out killing, and if he leans more to the goku side, he could just know when its a good time to quit after having accidentally killed someone before.would be pretty rough doing something like that on accident, feeling guilty over it, and then just having no one care all that much.
>>3976448>>3976462If something like that happened it would be good material for a nightmare flashback sequence
>pacifist Val looking back on the incident>still feels a little guilt over it, but remembers that Goku killed his grandpa and still tries to become stronger and better>neutral val>It was an accident. Not much else he can say about it. Shit happens.>genocide Val>Vegeta when he killed nappa
>>3976466Pacifist Val is Saiyan Arc GokuNeutral Val is Red Ribbon Army Arc Goku, or maybe Piccolo Daimou GokuGenocide Val is Tournament of Power Goku
>>3976466I love when a character's reaction to a hamhanded guilt trip confronting their past sins is to double down
>>3976469That fits. so does that mean pacifist goku could get a "serene heart stirred by rage" moment? Tournament of power Val just Waku-ing his way though "Monster zeno? wow he sure sounds strong. We should fight" while entire worlds are burning around him.
>>3976462Maybe it was an accident during a professional fight, Val hit his opponent in the head in such a way that gave them an injury which lead to their death, it can happen rarely in some combat sports.
>>3976471>"Monster zeno? wow he sure sounds strong. We should fight" while entire worlds are burning around him.That reminds me of an edited page from the Dragon Ball manga that went something like>That Frieza Guy beat Vegeta to death?>Waku Waku!>He must be really Strong!
>>3976469>geno val is compared with ToP gokuThis implies that geno val would revive the monster species equivalent of ultra hitler since goku revived frieza
>>3976474well yeah because he's that much of a fucking psycho and wants to fight strong characters NO MATTER THE COST
>>3976473the comic where it takes the original page of goku approaching frieza where there's tension and goku shows his serious side, and then side by side the DBS version where the first thing he says is HEY GUYS ITS ME GOKU
>>3976474Having orange geno go full MD Geist and instigate total conflict forever would contrast nicely with red geno ending all conflict forever
one of my favorite takes on naranja geno ending is him looking to the screen, "you look pretty strong" and reaching towards you crashing the game>>3976478>the ruins of civilization, war rages on>but if you hear the call of the safron devil, i'm afraid my child, it's too late to run. Waku waku, remember that sound, waku waku" should you hear it, he's near or around."waku... waku..."
>>3976474>>3976476Galacta knight ass fight premise
>>3976483>star dream normally twists wishes to cause the most suffering>this wish is so insane he just grants it at face valueVal with the dragon balls would be a menace
>>3976466>Val looks at his reflection on pacifist>You know you'll never be able to change what you did>But you can still chose to become someone better>Neutral>No matter your regrets, you chose to remain true to yourself>Genocide>"This is who I am, who I always wanted to be"
>>3976486Supremely Kino. unfathomably kino even.
>>3976483>>3976485Who would be a Galacta Knight in this scenario?
>>3976481>endless pursuit of strength enough to punch through the barrier>restarts the human-monster war on purpose>fights both sides
>>3976492Val will become the strongest creature on the planet, all the government will swear loyalty to him, and he'll live bored out of his mind looking for someone who can give him a fight where he can go all out.
>>3976492>fighting on both sides>sometimes at the same time!>>3976490whatever thing inspired the drawing in waterfall of the "monster with a human soul"
>>3976470Any examples?
>>3976472I was thinking that's still too intentional and too late in life. Val is too young for professional fighting now, let alone when he was even younger. I was thinking playground accident. They were playing on some playground that wasn't built to code, other kid fell off and hit his head, the state ruled it was the playground owner's fault and didn't even bother Val.
>>3976474Naranja!Sunshine
>geno val forces asgore to fuse with the patience soul so that his final opponent is the strongest possible thing in the underground>val then fuses with that soul for the strength of two human souls
>>3976481That would be a goofier way to end it. But honestly maybe Val just dusts himself off and leaves the underground looking for his next good fight. With the implication being he's gonna start killing people on the surface.
>>3976497>whatever thing inspired the drawing in waterfall of the "monster with a human soul"The strongest warrior in the history of the world...Racter.
>>3976496Val becomes Yujiro
>>3976498Does this count?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKwLPPNSpk
>>3976497>>3976490>>3976509Maybe he just takes the souls and gives them to the monster that he thinks would give him the best fight.
>>3976503>I was thinking that's still too intentional It's still an accident, most of the time you wouldn't say an athlete killed their opponent in a combat sport when it happens.and too late in life. Val is too young for professional fighting now, let alone when he was even youngerI imagine this happened like at most a year before the game starts, maybe it wasn't a "professional fight" in the sense of it being on a major league or anything, junior league boxing tournaments accept participants as young as 15 years old. I like the idea of the accident being fighting related since that's a huge focus in Naranja
>>3976508that would be good in an ominous way>>3976509the power forgotten by legend. so forgotten that no one remembers how scared he was the whole time.>>3976513>killing random humans to stuff their souls in a random monster
>>3976515>so forgotten that no one remembers how scared he was the whole time.His actions were so great that they overshadowed the fact that he was a quivering mess the entire time he had such power.
>>3976515>>3976516I think both of you are underestimating just how dangerous a scared person with a lot of power can be. Just think of how bad a jumpy person with a gun is, then give them super powers.
>>3976521Oh I'm not underestimating it, it's just funny to think of the legend totally not accounting for how scared out of his mind he was.>>3976516leveled a city block, but may have been crying the whole time.
>>3976521True, but Racter in particular?He's not just scared, he's a complete wreck, he's *advanced* scared.
>>3976498Metal Gear Rising, kinda? It's pretty rare.The most memorable one was that shitty isekai where the protagonist had to fight the immortal souls of people he killed and instead of making peace he had the time of his life doing the most brutal and depraved shit to them until they went to their eternal rest just to get away from him. Then he was like>don't worry guys we'll pick this up again when I get to hell ;-)
>>3976521>>3976522Maybe fighting a scared Racter is what post geno Val needs to feel alive again, one last battle to make our psycho happy
>>3976522That "may" is very generous of you.
>>3976525what aboutGeno val vs Vacter fighting as one.
>>3976527Geno Val (Foma Calvo) vs Vacter (Fusion)
>>3976492>>3976497Val is the angel from the Divide By Zero music videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDlYjJqzWE
>>3976530>brings out the true power of bald to overpower his enemiesTruly terrifyingFist of the bald star
>>3976472This is the background to "The Quiet Man," but in that John Wayne swears off boxing, only for the course of the film to rouse him to action and culminating in a comedic fist-fight. That's very different from Val's entry where he eagerly keeps fighting.
>>3976538>That's very different from Val's entry where he eagerly keeps fighting.Maybe Val chose to fight monsters because they are evil creatures that want to destroy mankind, that way he could keep fighting and not have to worry about killing a person in a sport
>>3976535>and when the angel returns from the underground...
>>3976371What, pray tell, is there for him to investigate? There is likely little information on dark worlds in general for him to look up, and I find the idea of him going to the Dark Jail to be an idea that outright won't work outside of being shoehorned in.
>>3976553>What, pray tell, is there for him to investigate? What's not to investigate? Basically everything in DRY is strange or out of the ordinary in some way. First of all, he'd want to know more about this battle for the fate of the world that his daughter has been caught up in. What's this battle over? Why is it happening? How did Kanako learn about all this? Who is this Warden guy? What are his motives? Can he be trusted? Is he telling the truth? What are dark worlds exactly? How do they work? Who's making these dark worlds? Why are they doing it? How can they be stopped?All of that is stuff that he would have a vested interest in answering. Not only his life, but his families lives are on the line. He wasn't even safe in his own home. This problem has to be dealt with, and he will deal with it in whatever way he can. Maybe going into the dark world to personally question the Warden won't get him any answers, maybe it will. He won't know until he tries it, and he has every reason in the world to try it. And if he can't accomplish anything in the dark world, his help would still be useful. Cole and Kanako can't be everywhere at once. There could be things going on in the light world that they aren't around to witness or deal with because they're busy at school or in a dark world. They're also kids, kids who are much easier to brish off and who have less ability to access things. Chujin is a grown man and a pillar of the community, his word will carry a lot farther than there's and there are paths open to him that aren't open to them. And that's not even getting into his technical expertise and scientific mind. I would find it out of character if he didn't try picking the dark worlds apart to figure out how they work. Now can you explain why you think it won't work and why its shoehorned in?
>>3976553Furthermore, how do you explain him not doing anything he knows his family's live and potentially the entire world are on the line, especially when we've already seen just how far he's willing to go for their sake?
>>3976553>shoehorned in.I don't really get that angle. Chujins always been a man of action, and it's literally what got him killed in UTY when he came to believe his family was in danger. They are in danger now, he may not be as extreme in this world but it's still a natural extension of his character to involve.
>>3976562The issue I have is mostly scale and implementation. Remember, Sadie, Gizmo, and Melody are also supposed to join the gang and get some focus in the next chapters. All this suggested stuff for Chujin will be just another thing to cram in with the Light World segments that will already be fairly packed. I think trying to constrain it to early Chapter 3, with him bringing suspicious behavior up through the rest of the game would probably suffice, in addition to tweaked Chapter 2 dialogue.>>3976564>>3976565shoehorned is probably the wrong word, but it just has to be done in a reasonable way, like say he wants to know what happened to Toster after he gets lassoed and that leads to a dark jail confrontation that leads him to back off on the dark worlds, and keep an eye on things in the Light World. Hell, have him bring Axis along to further hammer the point home. There's also the inherent problem that DR and UT do not have the exact same world logic. Chujin is a decent engineer, but I don't see him MacGyvering all manner of Dark World sensory equipment from that pile in his workshop(especially since some of that is from work). I do think he needs more, but within reason and the scope of the game.
>>3976571>but it just has to be done in a reasonable wayyeah thats fair, but I think honestly him wanting to know who the person his daughter is working with dealing with the end of the world is reasonable motivation for him to want to come to the jail and question this guy. Its not like the warden doesn't have time for it with all the standing around he does unless always bet on warden outlaw But I think reasonably he could also want to see for himself if his repairs to axis translated to the dark world properly, and could compare items he makes in his shop, and what they become in the dark world to get a sense of some items he could make. Figuring out some kind of half baked "logic" that makes items become something. it could also lead to a plot point where he fucked up and one of the items becomes a criminal darkner in a later chapter I think this could all be handled in very short scenes here and there, that don't hijack the plot or unreasonably take from other characters. He wouldn't be a presence throughout the chapter during the dark world segments, but he's the kind of man who would definitely be concerned enough to ask some questions.
>>3976571I don't think adding a additional optional side quest to the light world sections of the remaining chapters would be that much. Nor would a single scene involving Chujin. And it would a long way to add to the believability of his character and the plot. Even if he accomplishes very little in terms of effect on the plot, what matters is that he's trying and we know he's trying. Him adding to player's experience isn't necessary for that, though it would improve the game immensely. >. Chujin is a decent engineer, but I don't see him MacGyvering all manner of Dark World sensory equipment from that pile in his workshop(I see him trying even if he fails. Maybe he gives Axis a sensor upgrade that boosts his combat stats, but after hou complete the dark world and come back he finds that its data all reverted to useless noise upon entering the light world. Maybe next chapter he just gives you a normal upgrade if you complete a quest.
>>3976574This. I see these scenes as being like the dare and fishing scenes in chapter 2. Optional content that rewards the player for being thorough. Those are by and far the best part of the game and it needs more like them.
>>3976580*Like the date
>>3976580Yeah those are good examples.I enjoyed the dark world segments a bunch, but getting back to the light segments and just exploring around, seeing what changed, what npcs had shown up to different areas that I couldve missed if I wasnt thorough missing some anyways felt great.
>>3976587I said this already in that write up I did, but the light world is the most fun I had with the game.
>>3976577>I see him trying even if he fails. Maybe he gives Axis a sensor upgrade that boosts his combat stats, but after hou complete the dark world and come back he finds that its data all reverted to useless noise upon entering the light world. Maybe next chapter he just gives you a normal upgrade if you complete a quest.I like that, as it keeps the mystique of the dark worlds up.
I had a nightmare last night that had Reynault show up out of nowhere in it towards the end.I think this is the first time I've had a dream relating to anything from these threads in particular.This bodes poorly.
>>3976598can't believe he pranked you like that
>>3976600Eh, it was already a pretty bad dream before he showed up, his presence didn't change much.He just made it go from being a generally horrifying scenario, to a "what the fuck is even happening" sort of thing, and then I woke up.
>>3976601he showed up to prank your ass and accidentally saved you.
>>3976603>he showed up to prank your ass and accidentally saved you.That is kinda what it felt like actually, yeah.The rest of the dream wasn't even UTDR related, he just sorta appeared towards the end and started making light of everything as I was freaking out, he even started laughing at the idea that the situation presented in the dream was a problem, like he was making some kind of meta-joke about it being a dream to begin with, it was bizarre.I woke up with a strong sense of unease after that.
>>3976605>I woke up with a strong sense of unease after that.well yeah, foxes, and the french are evil. You think Sans is the only one that can prank people across time and space?
>>3976597And it still allows him to learn something even if it keeps the mystique up. That dark worlds make the transmission of information difficult.
>>3976606>well yeah, foxes, and the french are evil.I trust Reynault with my life, thank you very much.His frenchness doesn't define him, he's so much more than that.>You think Sans is the only one that can prank people across time and space?Well, he woke me up from a rather intense nightmare, so I'd say he actually helped me out in this particular instance.
>>3976598Wow, guess the scrimblo nightmare curse applies to ones I've created as well. What was it about? What did Reynault do?
>>3976605Well now I wanna know the specifics of the situation and his joke.
>>3976606I feel like Reynault's pranks across time and space would be something like gaslighting archaeologists or putting a bomb in a time capsule
>>3976608>His frenchness doesn't define him, I mean it does, but it's not his sole aspect. He'd be an evil and devious fox even without the baguettes coursing through his metaphorical veins. > so I'd say he actually helped me out in this particular instance.Maybe he was pranking the demons in your nightmare. Or maybe he was just also trapped in the same nightmare, but thought it was light work and laughed at it.
>>3976609>What was it about?The nightmare was almost entirely unrelated to UTDR.Me and a small squad of other people had been sent into some kind of research facility, like a military blacksite or something, to neutralize some project that got out of control.A lot of very messed up things happened, most of my squad was torn to pieces by these 10 foot tall humanoid monsters ("monster" as a generic term, not UTDR monsters) that were seemingly invincible and did nothing other than eviscerate whatever they could get their hands on, and eventually I got stuck in some kind of airlock room that was the only exit to the facility I could reach, but I was unable to actually escape by myself.This is when Reynault appeared.>What did Reynault do?I didn't notice him when I first entered the room, he seemed to just kinda manifest after a certain point. I was freaking out because those creatures were slowly breaking through the metal bulkheads to get to me, and also because I thought that if those things managed to escape the facility, they'd basically be unstoppable killing machines and slaughter anyone they could.Reynault largely just made light of everything, especially the notion that the situation was that serious, but I didn't understand why during the dream. I never spoke directly to him either, I just panicked and tried to find somewhere to hide inside the chamber so maybe the creatures wouldn't get me when they broke in.Reynault just kept laughing at everything, including how serious I was taking the situation, and then I woke up.It's like he just dropped into the nightmare just to laugh at me and pull me out of it.I thought of it a bit after I woke up, but it was kinda like how in my various Ceroba dreams a while back, she seemed aware that I was dreaming, even though I myself wasn't.I feel like these characters are leading me down the path into madness.
>>3976618The other characters don't react to the scrimblos because they are all (even deeper) in your head, only you can see them
>>3976614>He'd be an evil and devious fox even without the baguettes coursing through his metaphorical veins. Mm, he's cunning and mischievous, but I don't think he's evil, per se.Plus, he can't help being french, it's just one part of him. We all have our demons.>Maybe he was pranking the demons in your nightmare.They didn't seem intelligent enough to take offense to someone like him.>Or maybe he was just also trapped in the same nightmare, but thought it was light work and laughed at it.I wouldn't put it past him to laugh at a situation like the one in my dream, but I don't get the feeling he was really "trapped" in the situation like I was. He seemed to just appear out of nowhere and start making fun of everything, it's like he was adding commentary.
>>3976614>baguettes coursing through his metaphorical veins.it's funny to me that the baguettes aren't the metaphorical part.God made the angels, and the angels fell to make demons, god man man and the animals, and then separate from all of these creations, god made the french.
>>3976625Actually, I don't think I've had a dream about any of my various scrimblos where anyone else was present, at least whenever the scrimblo themself was around.All my dreams about Ceroba just had me and her in them, and this one that had Reynault in it only had him appear when I was by myself. The other characters in the dream had either been killed before he arrived, or were otherwise out of "eyeshot", so he was the only person in my immediate vicinity towards the end of the dream, since the creatures trying to kill me never actually got through the door before I woke up.
>>3976618I sounds like you were part of the response team sent to clean up the Metal Glen, but then the dream got mixed up and gave you the wrong fox. Do you remember any of the specific terrible stuff that happened? What did these monsters look like?>they'd basically be unstoppable killing machines and slaughter anyone they could.>Reynault largely just made light of everything, especially the notion that the situation was that seriousHon hon, why so afraid? You did not see me like this when I was the one in your shoes and you were in the beasts'. Can you serve the dish, but not eat it yourself?>I feel like these characters are leading me down the path into madness.Sounds to me like he pulled you off that path
>>3976478Val is pretty different from the red soul human, while undertale's genocide ending ends with the eradication of all, Val always wants more strong people to fight, so theyll just move onwards to the next opponent, if anything, theyd be willing to go back into the underground and search for any new stronger monsters that have risen up to defend the next generation, perhaps... strongerer monsters...
>>3976626>They didn't seem intelligent enough to take offense to someone like him.He wasn't mocking the monsters, but the force that put them there and drove them to kill. He was mocking the will of the dream itself. >He seemed to just appear out of nowhere and start making fun of everything, it's like he was adding commentary.Do you remember entering that place? Obviously you knew why you were there, but that dream had to start somewhere. At a certain point you would've materialized just like he did. Maybe he just joined the lobby late. >>3976631Oh, so the scrimblos in your dreams are like Reznov in Black Ops. No one is around to prove your interactions with them false.
>>3976636Val has bigger challenges waiting for him on the surface, if anything I think he'd be too busy to go back to the Underground
>>3976630The French copy no one and no one copies the French. This extends even to their biology.
>>3976470Do you prefer it in a positive way where theyll try to fuck up less while still doing what they need to, like:>I know i couldve done better, and i will, but i cant let bring me down or else i will never achieve what i want, i must keep going.Or in a negative way, like:>fuck it, we ballin?
>>3976640NTA, but Val going full "You think I'm bad? I can do way worse, watch and learn!" would be funny and fucked up in a genocide route
>>3976634>I sounds like you were part of the response team sent to clean up the Metal GlenIt actually did occur to me how similar the situations were. The layout of the facility in the dream was different though, and the whole place was in a blackout, only the airlock room had power. The monsters were also distinct from the mutated patients of the Metal Glen.>but then the dream got mixed up and gave you the wrong fox. Honestly, not sure Red would've helped here too much. He can make a good bomb, sure, but the monsters in the dream were basically indestructible, 50 cal literally bounced off them without a scratch.>Do you remember any of the specific terrible stuff that happened? Mostly just the monsters tearing people apart in extremely vivid and brutal ways. There were some other people in the facility who were alive by the time my squad showed up, but that didn't last. The facility also seemed to have some kind of setup for children, like maybe the families of the people who worked there? That's about my best guess, because I distinctly remember watching as one of the creatures broke into some kind of daycare room and slaughtered a bunch of children as I tried to stop it.Lots of violence, the kind I don't like to see.>What did these monsters look like?They were tall, humanoid in nature. They had extremely little muscle-mass, to the point that you could basically see their skeletal structure through their skin. Their "skin" was rough, and charcoal black in color. They were so tall that they actually walked on all-fours, though that seemed to just be them accounting for being taller than the facility seemed intended to accommodate. They were also very fast, way faster than made sense, visually.I don't know if they used to be human or anything, but they didn't seem to have anything going on in their heads, just mindless violence.
>>3976139that was definitely 3 maybe 4 different anons just handing off the baton as the night went on.
>>3976638Imagine if an undertale orange 2 was just mike tyson's punch out but with post-genocide run val lol
>>3976644Funnily enough there's an official Baki game that plays like punch out, making the Val-Yujiro connection stronger.
>>3976634>Hon hon, why so afraid? You did not see me like this when I was the one in your shoes and you were in the beasts'. Can you serve the dish, but not eat it yourself?Nothing I ever thought of doing to you was as bad as what happened in that dream, this isn't fair!>Sounds to me like he pulled you off that pathI guess, but I don't know how much weird meta-shit I can take from these characters before my mind just falls apart.First I have Ceroba telling me how to wake up from the Virtual Twilight Town, and then I have Reynault dropping in out of nowhere to make fun of a nightmare I'm having until I wake up.I can only take so much before I run out of not-crazy explanations for this.
>>3976644>>3976645I wonder how hard it would be to create a scratch project of punch out with UTO val
>>3976647I don't think it would be that hard if you already have experience with game dev, years ago, one guy here was making an UTO parody game which had punch out mechanics for the FIGHT button, we called it the "dorito game" since you controlled an orange triangle instead of a soul, too bad the guy making it quit after a few months, he seemed to have decent progress on the thing.
>>3976637>He wasn't mocking the monsters, but the force that put them there and drove them to kill. He was mocking the will of the dream itself. Seemed like, yeah. It really just seemed like he was laughing his ass off over me taking everything so seriously, like I was in a delusion but *he* was perfectly aware, it was surreal.>Do you remember entering that place? Obviously you knew why you were there, but that dream had to start somewhere.The dream started with me and my other squadmates in the entrance to the facility. I never turned around to face where we had apparently come in from, but I did see the doors close from the light outside being blocked by them shutting.>At a certain point you would've materialized just like he did. Maybe he just joined the lobby late. Are you suggesting Reynault used drop-in/drop-out co-op to invade my dream and start taking the piss out of everything?>Oh, so the scrimblos in your dreams are like Reznov in Black Ops. No one is around to prove your interactions with them false.Never played BO, but yeah, I guess.It doesn't happen often enough for me to make any real conclusions from this though.
>>3976646>Nothing I ever thought of doing to you was as bad as what happened in that dream, this isn't fair!I think he was speaking about humanity at large. Your scenario sound pretty similar to what the monsters went through against humanity. I imagine they viewed the humans like you viewed these charcoal creatures. >Honestly, not sure Red would've helped here too much.Maybe the mix up was a good thing then. They should've given you the contextually appropriate fox, but instead you got one that's completely out of place, but actually helpful. >the creatures broke into some kind of daycare room and slaughtered a bunch of children Oh, like in the Jurassic Park novel. You should draw Reynault laughing in the face of these things in the weaver style.
>>3976652>I think he was speaking about humanity at large. Your scenario sound pretty similar to what the monsters went through against humanity. I imagine they viewed the humans like you viewed these charcoal creatures. I would defect to the monster's side of the war if I was given the option, I shouldn't be taking the heat for this.I would kill and/or die for Reynault any day of the week.>They should've given you the contextually appropriate fox, but instead you got one that's completely out of place, but actually helpful.Yeah, I think that's what woke me up, he was being extremely inappropriately disruptive, given the tone of the situation.>You should draw Reynault laughing in the face of these things in the weaver style.I'm not sure I can accurately draw one of these things, and I'm less sure if I want to. I saw one of them squish a baby's head like it was made out of play-dough, it was pretty bad.I'll see, I don't know.Should I give Reynault Red's elemental plane of teeth, or does he laugh like a normal person?
>>3976642I remember I used to have dreams like that. I always found guns were worthless in them. Better to use your hands. I think the last one of those types of dreams I had ended with me strangling the monster to death with barbed wire. Though even fist fighting them is more trouble than its worth. Reynault has the right idea, just laugh at it. The moment you stop taking the dream seriously, it loses all power over you. >>3976650>like I was in a delusion but *he* was perfectly aware, it was surreal.Well you were in a dream, so looks like he was right. >The dream started with me and my other squadmates in the entrance to the facility.See, you just materialized there, along with the context you existed within in the dream. There was no life before that, no world outside that. It was all just justification to make you play the game. Reynault recognized that, and that's why he laughed at you struggling with the door. He knew there was nothing on the other side of that door and that it would never open. >Are you suggesting Reynault used drop-in/drop-out co-op to invade my dream and start taking the piss out of everything?Perhaps. Either that or he's Cylon six'ing it. >Never played BOOk, well in black ops in an early mission you get sent to a Russian gulag. You befriend a man named Reznov (who was a returning character from the previous game), and he helps you escape, seemingly dying in the process. But then later in the game he shows up while you're cut off and alone in some Vietcong tunnels and helps you out. Then he keeps showing up to help you. Then at the end, its revealed he actually did die in the prison and you were hallucinating him the whole time.
>>3975842>No, he has a physical message board, on a wall in town, that he posts on.an idea, >when the message board's usual participants arent enough for his bullshit, he likes to leave "shit-posts" along the town's roads.>these shit-posts are quite literally just signs that he lives with aggravating messages to annoy the town folk>because of this, the town's janitor is his arch nemesis as he's stuck cleaning them up through an angry mob.
>>3976654>I'm not sure I can accurately draw one of these things,Could just draw a black stick figure with lots of rough scribbly lines. The artstyle lets you leave most of it to the imagination. > I'm less sure if I want toCould just draw him pointing and laughing while you panic then. >Should I give Reynault Red's elemental plane of teeth, or does he laugh like a normal person?He's got a wide smile, but not the mutant goblin shark jaw Red has. he also might be missing some teeth. Though he could have had false teeth put in >I would defect to the monster's side of the war if I was given the optionBut you didn't and descended from the humans that did. So he can still use this to get under your skin.
>>3976657Not just in the roads, but anywhere he thinks will get a reaction. He'll nail it to your door if he thinks you'll get mad about it.
>>3976656>Reynault has the right idea, just laugh at it. The moment you stop taking the dream seriously, it loses all power over you. I have never once managed to lucid dream, ever. Every dream I have where I'm an actual participant in what's going on, I'm always behaving as I would if the situation was real, because as far as I'm ever aware, it is. Naturally, this precludes me from wanting to fist-fight the inhumanly tall monsters that tear people apart like tissue paper.>Well you were in a dream, so looks like he was right. He was, and that's still weird to me.The only two characters to ever behave like they know I'm dreaming have been Ceroba and Reynault, and I don't know why that is.I swear, if I have a dream with Red or something, I'm going to go insane.>Reynault recognized that, and that's why he laughed at you struggling with the door. He knew there was nothing on the other side of that door and that it would never open. Wish he would've told me that, save myself a mild panic attack.I'm imagining this whole scenario as me having a nightmare and talking in my sleep about how the world's gonna end if these creatures get out, as Reynault starts to laugh at me for how seriously I'm taking the dream, until eventually he wakes me up from laughing too loud.I guess that counts as him helping.>Perhaps. Either that or he's Cylon six'ing it. I do not need another fox having this kind of sway over my psyche, my brain is getting cramped, thank you.
>>3976659Why don't the people just kill Reynault if he's that annoying?
>>3976660>I do not need another fox having this kind of sway over my psyche, my brain is getting cramped, thank you.Are there non foxes taking a considerable amount of space in your brain?
>>3976658>Could just draw a black stick figure with lots of rough scribbly lines. The artstyle lets you leave most of it to the imagination.>Could just draw him pointing and laughing while you panic then. Mmph, I'll see what I can do at some point, maybe.Still not terribly confident about how to draw Reynault though, especially his head. I feel like if I draw him at anything other than a side-angle he'll have a front-facing Phineas thing going on.>he also might be missing some teeth. Though he could have had false teeth put in He really ought to take better care of his oral hygiene. I thought about that scenario where Reynault absorbs my soul a little more yesterday, and I imagined myself exerting as much determination and control as I could to get him to brush his teeth regularly, because I can't imagine that's something he makes a habit of by himself.>But you didn't and descended from the humans that did. So he can still use this to get under your skin.I have German blood in me, I get enough of that as it is.But hey, if he's making fun of me in the present, that would mean he's alive somehow, so I'm happy.
>>3976663>Are there non foxes taking a considerable amount of space in your brain?No, but Ceroba did slightly restructure the way I view most things in life after I had a minor mental-breakdown/existential-crisis last year, so having the same kind of mental rewriting from another damned fox would not be ideal.It's like having two crippling viruses playing tug-of-war with your PC.
>>3976660>I have never once managed to lucid dream, ever. You don't need to lucid dream. You just need to change your default response to things that upset you. Get into the habit of laughing at and making light of monsters. You can do the same for fighting them, just get into the habit of visualizing yourself fighting them and winning. Then when you're asleep, all those ideas will resurface and that's what will happen. >The only two characters to ever behave like they know I'm dreaming have been Ceroba and Reynault, and I don't know why that is.Maybe because UT is a very meta setting. Or maybe its because anthropomorphic cartoon foxes are obviously something that doesn't actually exist, so your brain is able to quickly figure out that none of that is real. And them saying that is just your thoughts manifesting in the dream. >I swear, if I have a dream with Red or something, I'm going to go insane.Well if you do, at least your hallucinations will have the courtesy to remind you that they're hallucinations. >Wish he would've told me that, save myself a mild panic attack.Yeah, but where's the fun in that?>I'm imagining this whole scenario as me having a nightmare and talking in my sleep about how the world's gonna end if these creatures get out, as Reynault starts to laugh at me for how seriously I'm taking the dream, I find it funnier thinking of it as him being part of a dream and finding it hilarious that you're still taking it so seriously when it is very obviously fake because of his presence. >I do not need another fox having this kind of sway over my psyche, my brain is getting cramped,Well you're the one that keeps letting them stay rent free
>>3976661Easier said than done.
>>3976668He can't be that hard to kill, his body already did half of the job, just set a trap on one of the message boards and he's done.
>>3976669That trap is gonna blow up in your face like a looney tunes gag
>>3976670I don't buy my products from acme, besides I never said anything about explosives, I think a few darts with DT should be enough, humans are immune to that.
>>3976667>Then when you're asleep, all those ideas will resurface and that's what will happen. Eh, my dreams don't really have predictable patterns like that, I usually just dream about whatever.Plus, I think about killing monsters all the time, but that's not usually how things pan out in my dreams.>And them saying that is just your thoughts manifesting in the dream. I don't think that's it exactly. The Reynault one was definitely about the dream I was in at the time, but the Ceroba ones were a bit more complicated than that, but you already know the deal with those.>Well if you do, at least your hallucinations will have the courtesy to remind you that they're hallucinations.Eh, maybe. If he's just gonna act crazy, that probably won't help too much.>very obviously fake because of his presence. In hindsight, yes, but during the dream itself, I didn't see it as such, it just felt like he was some guy who managed to stay alive a while like I did, even though I did sorta recognize who he was.>Well you're the one that keeps letting them stay rent freeNot my fault, you're responsible for putting two of them in there to begin with, you're practically an enabler.
>>3976661He is a soldier, I imagine he's survived worse than a pissed-off forumite.
>>3976664I kinda have the side head issue myself. I just cock his head to the side in every drawing. >nd I imagined myself exerting as much determination and control as I could to get him to brush his teeth regularly,I don't know if monsters need to brush their teeth. >have German blood in me, I get enough of that as it is.That only makes it better. >that would mean he's alive somehowBut anon, its all in le head
>>3976672Where are you going to get darts full of DT?
Has that guy that was making a theme for DRY's chapter 2 secret boss ever finished it?
>>3976677From Gaster, duh, but you know what? I don't even need DT, I can just use my own soul juice, just like how Chujin created super cancer with Integrity's soul
>>3976674>but during the dream itself, I didn't see it as such, iThat's what makes it so funny. >you're responsible for putting two of them in there to begin with,I just introduced you to them. You're the one who decided to make them your live in polycule.
>>3976679You're gonna end up screaming like Mel Blanc by the end of it.
>>3976676>I kinda have the side head issue myself. I just cock his head to the side in every drawing. Sigh.Well, one of us is going to have to be the one to take the first crack at it.Hell, maybe you really could just draw him like that, if you wanted to lean a bit harder into the cartoon stuff.>I don't know if monsters need to brush their teeth. Well that Puzzle Corps story explicitly mentions a shower, and I don't believe most monsters do that either, judging by what we can see of the various homes we can enter in UT, so maybe it varies.Regardless, he has (some) teeth, and he would do well to maintain them.And if it's my soul he absorbed in that scenario, I'm not relenting on this.>That only makes it better. Well for whatever it's worth, I joke about that one myself, ha.>But anon, its all in le headAnd he exists as a brain-ghost inside my head, so that's kinda like being alive.Granted, this is more of a Crichton/Scorpius relationship than a Gaius/Six one, but it's my head he's stuck in regardless.
>>3976681>Reynault got so scared from my plan that all he can do now is send vague threatsHow sad, I expected more from the disease ridden sack of fur.
>>3976680>You're the one who decided to make them your live in polycule.I thought Reynault was just a somewhat cute character design with funny writing at first, he's the one who invited himself into my head.Also,>polyculeNever utter such a word or concept in my general direction again.
>>3976683Don't let me stop you. Just don't say I didn't warn you.
>>3976684>Never utter such a word or concept in my general direction again.My apologies. I meant the throuple in your head.
>>3976685I know how to fight "funny" characters, the next time you see me, I'll have carpet made of his fur (extracted before dusting him)
>>3976686Also no.While I do imagine myself with multiple scrimblos from time to time, it's never simultaneous. If I could only have one, I would adhere to only having one.As it stands, I have none of them, as they are all currently fictional, so I will imagine myself with any of them (individually) as I so choose.Some nights that means I imagine the fox wife, other nights the fox husband, and on other nights any of my other scrimblos.Polygamy, I swear, don't make me drag out that r*ddit sprite comic of Chujin blushing while Ceroba makes out with Starlo in front of him.Christ.
>>3976688one of these day's you'll have a nightmare where all your scrimblos run a train on you
>>3976688better yet
>>3976685NTA (obviously), but someone telling someone else not to try and kill Reynault gives me the same vibes as when The Doctor told that one guy not to provoke the Cybermen.I have to imagine there's a rather long list of people who have tried to kill Reynault, but I can't imagine too many of the people on that list are still around.
>>3976690I'm honestly impressed how well made that is.But man, is that fucking tiny.
>>3976691Reynault ran away like a bitch from the trap plan, I doubt he'll do much
>>3976692sorry I had a thing for posting my aseprite shit at it's regular resolution until people rightfully got on my case for it
>>3976693He wasn't running for his sake.
>>3976694Well, I bet it's scaled well on mobile at least, so a few anons here are probably happy with it.
>>3976676obligatory joke>But anon, its all in le headThey are real to me!
>>3976688>Polygamy, I swear, don't make me drag out that r*ddit sprite comic of Chujin blushing while Ceroba makes out with Starlo in front of him.That was terrible, but I swear some anon was talking about this shit to deny the other cheating comic being the writer’s fetish. Both comics are simply the writer’s barely disguised fetishes, and I was perplexed by the number of anons trying to defend NTR fetishes. Suspiciously, I haven’t seen those types of defenders in a long time
>>3976710nta but people do seem to get a little weird about the whole "woah man it's not a fetish" about stuff, however, the edit with the entire line of people, including I think a second ceroba, still made me laugh.
>>3976710>Both comics are simply the writer’s barely disguised fetishes,Yes, but the one where Chujin was into it was made as an act of retaliation, whereas the other was just entirely genuine by itself.So what's worse, getting off to something like that entirely of your own volition, or weaponizing it against someone who is?Anyway, my point is, all of that stuff sucks, and I'll have no part in it.>Suspiciously, I haven’t seen those types of defenders in a long timeWell don't gift a horse in the mouth anon.
>>3976710>>3976713ntr kissing line son or bedsheet slurping clover daughter
>>3976687How confident you are, selling the skin of the fox before he's been killd. But I am sure the guerilla warfare training you recieved should be largely sufficient for the work. No doubt your 300 kills can testify to this.
>>3976716How dare you speak ill of such a work of art.
>>3976713you can trust me to be completely honest about the fact that my occasional fat fetishist kanako shitpost greens and comments are, indeed, fetishistic in nature.unlike that OTHER guy that hasnt shown his face here in two years, whenever i torment you all with them i at least wrap them in a layer of humor.
>>3976688>Polygamy, I swear, don't make me drag out that r*ddit sprite comic of Chujin blushing while Ceroba makes out with Starlo in front of himThat's cuckoldry. Polygamy would be Chujin and Starlo spiroastin Ceroba. Though I imagine for it'd be you between two foxes. >>3976692Its pixel art. Of course it's tiny.
>>3976720It must have been a real riot watching me wretch in agony as I went to collect those from the history books huh.
>>3976722>That's cuckoldry.Oh, the comic went further than that at one point, but I stopped paying attention to it once people stopped posting it here.I think the comic creator actually had a mental episode for a while because of all that stuff, but I'm sure they're fine.>Though I imagine for it'd be you between two foxes. Resorting to petty insults now, are we?>Its pixel art. Of course it's tiny.Doesn't necessarily mean it has to be 1:1.
>>3976693The what?
>>3976724i feel no joy in your torment in collecting THAT set. not even i liked those.my own slop? yes, very much.lil ms syrup has ensured that you're getting another because of her healing act.
>>3976724NTA, but watching you take psychic damage from all those greens was pretty funny.
>>3976727He suggested putting a trap on the message board, to which you (or someone) replied, "don't say I didn't warn you", which they interpreted as Reynault running away.
>>3976713I like the one with a second Chujin and miniRoba.
>>3976726>the comic went further than that at one pointWhat else did he do?>Resorting to petty insults now, are we?Not really. Just statements, unless you'd rather be between a rock and a hard place.
>>3976728Well, I have to respect your game even if it's the stuff of nightmares. If it gets as bad as what I pushed myself to archive, I'd appreciate a warning, but I don't know if such mercy runs through your veins. Shine on you crazy diamond.>>3976729It's funny in retrospect, though I think I pushed myself a little far for one weekends efforts. I'm mentally frayed from it. Honestly it's a unique skill of it's own being able to write something that makes others feel that way, and not all writing should be 'pretty' after all. Probably could put those terrible skills to good use writing horror, knowing that their fantasy is another's mountain of madness.
>>3976734>What else did he do?Chujin and Starlo themselves also end up having a make-out sesh of their own, but that's about the last I saw of it.I've seen horror stories from the UTY subreddit, screenshots of pixel comics where literally every UTY cast member is inexplicably in a polygamous relationship, and I have no idea whether this is intentional irony on their part, or things they genuinely enjoy and think could/should happen.Needless to say, I've never gone to check.>Not really. Just statements, unless you'd rather be between a rock and a hard place.You've made better jabs than this before, I'm disappointed.
>>3976731I couldn't remember if the mini roba actually got done, or was just suggested. the idea is really funny.
>>3976738>It's funny in retrospect, though I think I pushed myself a little far for one weekends efforts. I'm mentally frayed from it. Well, I hope you recover soon.So that you can go and add all those other greens I sent you to the shadow librarby, of course.
>>3976741>So that you can go and add all those other greens I sent you to the shadow librarby, of course.in time of course. The cycle of suffering and joys. I made sure to save the post where you linked those unholy things. Chapter black if you will.
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>>3976722>Polygamy would be Chujin and Starlo spiroastin Ceroba.*would be Chujin and Starlo fucking each other while Ceroba watches from a chair
>>3976739>You've made better jabs than this before, I'm disappointed.Eh, you win some you lose some
>>3976743Good, good.In the meantime, make sure to get some rest and take care of yourself.So that you can cut straight back to the horrors as soon as possible.
>>3976744god damnit, stupid shit like that with sprites is too funny to me. Just an inexplicably small roba, another roba, and then 2 more robas for good measure.>even another chujin while chujin is watchingoh man
>>3976722Gonna be >that guy and say that polygamy and polyandry are both termed according to sexes and refer to long-term relationships, as opposed to just a threesome or orgy. If both Chujin and Starlo were romantically involved with Ceroba, that would be polyandry, because it's more than one man with one woman. Polygamy is what the mormons do, with multiple wives per man. If it's multiple men and women, I don't know what it's called, maybe just an "open relationship."
>>3976746I know how you feel about my own proclivities, but that's no excuse for poor material, frankly.
>>3975419None of these greens can even compare to your average r34 commentWarning for ESL in picrel
>>3976747Will do anon, thank you. Reading some things that are easier on the soul, and thinking of dumb things to write about the bird and the fox. In time, the siren call of the archives will sing their song.
>>3976745Did they just keep a constant rotation of who's fucking and who's watching from the chair?
>>3976749Actually "polygamy" works here, because Chujin's being suppressed into being a wife too.
>>3976752I'm not going to read that right now. Probably not ever in fact. But I'm sure that martlet "feeding" one has to compare in terribleness.
>>3976754Musical cuck-chairs.
>>3976752Before I read this, calling it now, there's no way it's that bad.
>>3976748The second Chujin really is the cherry on top.
>>3976752Oh.Oh okay.Yeah, that's not great.
>>3976749>Polygamy is what the mormons do, with multiple wives per man.I thought that was bigamy>>3976756By Roba, as is Starlo
>>3976757I'd say the Martlet one is still worse, but that thing that anon just posted has force-fem and mind control apparently, and that's not good either.It also doesn't have even a single instance of punctuation through the whole thing, best I can tell, so that's great.
>>3976763So Starlo and Chujin are both Ceroba's wives?
>>3976752>that one post of anon fucking martlet by sig almost held the record for most comments on all of r34 until the mods stepped in and purged pages upon pages of ERPthe potency of the autism of undertale yellow fans is admirable
>>3976764>It also doesn't have even a single instance of punctuation through the whole thing, best I can tell, so that's great.makes things notably worse.
>>3976752What fucking post is this on?What could've possibly prompted this wall of text?
>>3976766>anon fucking martlet by sigfic or an image? I haven't seen it either way.>the potency of the autism of undertale yellow fans is admirablegenuinely a sight to see. There's a lot of bad stuff for undertale as it is, but over the years its funneled into very specific "vats" of autism. Watching what I suspect are grown adults roleplay as kanako in places that kids frequent being only the tip of the iceberg is frightening.We really are blessed by what we have here.
>>3976766I didn't know r34 mods gave a shit about comments. I wonder if it was breaking some rule or if they just did it to save space.
>>3976769>Watching what I suspect are grown adults roleplay as kanako in places that kids frequent being only the tip of the iceberg is frightening.Ok, what place and what were they roleplaying?
>>3976768It's NSFW of femStarloHere (no bait): https://files.catbox.moe/nialn4.jpeg
>>3976772Well, I'm not super into rule63 or whatever it's called these days, but that's not terrible.On a technical level that's actually pretty good, just the subject itself isn't my thing.Though it did open the gates of hell for that one comment, so it's still unclean.
>>3976771 discord I can not fathom the people that actually go there for discussion. It's an alien species. Thankfully those kinds of places think 4chan is too scary to actually take part in most of the time.
>>3976752Just think, some day weirdos on esix and r34 will be writing fucked-up roleplay and fanfiction of characters from the thread's fangames!Isn't that exciting?
>>3976777honestly a scary thought. What does autism the likes of which we've never even seen look like?
>>3976782I dunno, like something we've never even seen?
I have returned to working on the Bedo slilk image.I have given her a big belly and breasts larger than her head.No one can stop me.
>>3976800Is the slilk apple flavor?
>>3976800>>3976799https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPRO2SApO8appropriate for both posts.
>>3976806Man, I dunno.It's green flavored.It tastes green.
>>3976807Are you complaining about Bedo being large and squishy?Where else is she supposed to keep all that slilk if her boobs aren't the the size of bowling balls?
>>3976810hey, you're the one that said "no one can stop me" like a mad scientist defying the very heavens.
>>3976808Well that means its either green apple or lemon lime. That's always what green flavor is.
>>3976812never seen green used for watermelon? Watermelon from her big melons?I can picture Bedo rolling her eyes "This keeps getting stupider"
>>3976812The green Haribo gummy bears are strawberry.That's not an argument for her slilk being strawberry flavored, I just thought I'd let you know of this heresy.
>>3976811If the heavens don't want Bedo to be soft and squishy then there's no god there worth listening to.
>>3976813Maybe her attitude would change once anon actually starts sucking.
>>3976810Maybe he's gay.
>>3976813Watermelon flavor is pink. Makes sense, after all the part you eat is pink. Unless you're suggesting she has watermelon rind flavor milk.
>>3976818Well I'm also partially gay, and I say that's no excuse.Yes I know there's a word for that, I don't care.
>>3976820Yeah, but maybe he went full gay. Kinda like going full retard, but worse because it ruins your taste and gives you a valley girl accent.
>>3976818>>3976820look if any character is fitting of big sloshing tits, it's probably bedo. I'm just saying Anon sounds like a mad doctor
>>3976822Hm.You know, I think the slilk might be too viscous to actually make a sloshing sound.But yes, absolutely, big tits for her.And also a big belly you could bury your face in.
Racter has procreated with multiple human females
>>3976824Racter was gangraped in the sweltering summer of XXX94 BC
>>3976827It was consensual
>>3976829He was too intimidated to say no. He was coerced.
>>3976810Bedo is soft and small, like a plushie made of jelly, you could probably pick her up and use her as a plushie too, I imagine she would complain at first, but then the contact would feel too nice to do anything about it
>>3976849She may be short, but she won't be small when I'm done with her.
>>3976851If Bedo showed interest into going back to martial arts, would you stop her from doing that, since that would most likely mean she's going to lose weight, or would you convince her that she needs more weight to fight?
>>3976858I would obviously encourage her to do what she wants, I would never try to stop her for the sake of my own enjoyment of something like that.Plus, even if she did, that doesn't mean she wouldn't still be fat. People can be strong *and* fat, it's just a less common build.She can pursue martial arts while still having a big enough belly to make out with, the best of both worlds.
>>3976849>I imagine she would complain at first, but then the contact would feel too nice to do anything about itThe idea of her being a touch-starved autistic neet is insane.People are gonna go crazy over her when she eventually appears in-game, I'm calling that right now.
>>3976903Do you think she browses the Undernet's equivalent to 4chan?
>>3976938TOTAL NINGEN DEATH!...Oh hi Val, didnt see you there
>>3976943>TOTAL NINGEN DEATH!I thought Chujin would be the first one to use ningen as an slur, but maybe it's something Japanese monsters have been doing since the war>...Oh hi Val, didnt see you thereVal is one of the good ones
>>3976946>I thought Chujin would be the first one to use as a slurDust yourself ninga, this is an anime website. YWNBAD.You are the type of guy who unironically believes in Hall of Souls
>>3976949>YWNBAD>DWhats the D in this context?