Which Nintendo franchise has more cultural relevance in your opinion?This has been a recent debate all over the internet for some reason.
>>738737650Fire Emblem got 20 DLC smash charactersStarfox hasnt had a relevant new game in....20 years? The and the new starfox is just a fucking n64 remake
>>738737650This is the most forced rivalry shit I've seen in a while.Star Fox and Fire Emblem have nothing in common, why are you fags trying to stir shit so much between the two fanbases?
>>738737650Fag Emblem is only relevant to fujos and dating sim weeks.
>>738737650For fucks sakes. Can you dipshits just let this thread die? It's bad the enough the last one he made got as far as it did
>>738737650Star Fox invented furries, so for better or worse it's far more influential and relevant.
Fire Emblem has the best girls in all of Nintendo
>>738737650>A Comparison of B-Tier Nintendo FranchisesWho cares? They're both just hanging on thanks to Smash. Be nice to each other
Cutesythea>>738737650Who gives a shit.
>>738738880>Wolf and Lucina giving each other the “fuck me” eyesyjk
>>738737650Star Fox has more cultural relevance but I’d but money down that Fortune’s Weave outsells the glorified 64 remake.
>>738737650Based
>>738739054Star Fox has normalfag eyes on it from the Marion movie right now, so I think this could very well be the moment Star Fox does good numbers. The whole internet has been talking about Star Fox all week too. Meanwhile FW has been sitting out in the cold for 8 months and most people probably forgot it even exists.
>>738737650Mario is overrepresented Fuck whimsyFuck weird shitFuck zaniness craziness, and chuuni shit
>>738737650Fire Emblem is a lot more relevant.Star Fox genuinely hasn't been relevant since the barrel roll meme died out.
>Marth vs Fox in Final Destination
>Smashtards trying to force a fanbase war for no reason
>>738739624Fire Emblem is only relevant to anime nerds.
>>738739624How come Fire Emblem wasn't in the Mario Movie instead of Star Fox then if it's so much more relevant?What quote does FE have that's as culturally impactful as do a barrel roll?
>>738739809Everyone knows Ike's "I fight for my friends!" that he doesn't say in the games. Because of Smash.
>>738737650Why are you making the same thread again?>>738686579
>>738739767Anime is very popular nowadays, so yeah, its pretty relevant.
>>738737650>furfags actually think their shitty series always having the same game rebooted has any cultural significance outside of their mentally ill furry community
>>738739952Name three animes that referenced Fire Emblem.
>>738739809Because the Mario movies don't reference any Nintendo IPs that Miyamoto didn't have a hand in.
>>738739809>How come Fire Emblem wasn't in the Mario Movie instead of Star Fox then if it's so much more relevant?Miyamoto wants to make Star Fox relevant again, he's probably also trying to copy the Sonic movies in how their thing is to reveal another character at the end of each one.>What quote does FE have that's as culturally impactful as do a barrel roll?None, but that's besides the point, the topic is about relevancy, not cultural impact. No one has made a barrel roll joke in over a decade.
This shit is too forced and gay. I'll wait for a real thread.
Marth will make a cameo in the Legend of Zelda movie.
>>738737650The only cultural impact Star Fox has is furry porn
>>738740239Okay but those are some extremely good doujins and Legend of Krystal is one of the greatest Flash games of all time.
>>738740017No need to, cause its irrelevant to the discussion.FE is only relevant to anime nerds, however "anime nerd" isn't a small group anymore, nor is it looked down upon, its actually impossible to go anywhere without seeing people with anime shirts or hearing people talk about anime, being an anime nerd is practically mainstream now.
It's Fire Emblem but solely because of the mobile game. The first one, not Shadows.
>>738739893That's a Smash quote, not a FE quote.That's like saying Falcon Punch is a F-Zero quote.
>>738740443Why are you just repeating what he said?
>>738739809Fire Emblem will be in the Zelda movie
>>738740332So now it’s good to be part of the mainstream media slopmind? Weird how that works out.Thing is, this new anime demographic is probably going to rapidly fall off (a chair) given how short-lived its average fanatic is.
>>738737650Why are you trying to force this narrative? They are completely different games liked by two completely different groups of people. Shut up
>>738739809>>738739893>>738740443For fucks sakes, "Pick a god and pray" is right thereDo you dipshits know anything?
>>738740591Literally who? That Jeigan isn't even in Smash.
>FE has had something like 20 games and hundreds of characters in much more story heavy games>Still can't come up with anything as iconic as 4 animal dudes flying space planes, and they've only been in a handful of gamesThat's really sad when you think about it.
>>738740591Nobody quotes this outside of FE fans
>>738740591literally nobody quotes that, especially not on the level of do a barrel roll
>>738740687Isn't that the point? Nobody references "do a barrel roll" either, outside of dying out of touch boomers
>>738737650Now this is a forced rivalry, Starfox competes with forgotten and flopped shit like golden sun if anything
>>738740796That cultural touchstone was referenced in the classic Sonic Boom.
Pisshitgayge lost...
>>738740581>So now it’s good to be part of the mainstream media slopmind?I never said or implied that anywhere.
>>738740780Lots of people do, you being ignorant of that doesn't change anything. And when was the last time anybody unironically said "do a barrel roll"? Might as well bring up "Do you liek Mupkips?"
>>738740847You mean the show that hasn't gotten a new episode in almost 10 years? Yeah, I guess that checks out
Fire Emblem's iconic quote keky
>>738740796So? The point is at one point "do a barrel roll" broke the barriers of the fandom and became a quoted line in the mainstream. No Fire Emblem quote has ever become mainstream at any point in time.
>>738740989Why keep going when they did everything they set out to do in those episodes? People will be talking about Sonic Boom for years to come.
>>738740665Quality > QuantityFE has 100s of characters, but even the most diehard of FEfags could only name maybe 20 off the top of their head since so much of the cast in FE games are one note forgettable anime tropes
I have a hard time believing Star Fox is iconic when it gets games so rarely. I'm very confident Smash Bros Melee is doing a lot of carrying for Fox.
>>738741010so iconic
God the samefagging is getting pretty blatant now
>>738741086Being quoted endlessly by tasteless normalfags isn't the great accomplishment you think it is. Which still hasn't been the case in 15 years at its most generous
>>738741254>Being quoted endlessly by tasteless normalfags isn't the great accomplishment you think it isIrrelevant to the argument.
>>738741174Star Fox helped build Samsh.Fire Emblem literally wouldn't even be alive today if it weren't for the Smash shilling
>>738741307>this thing is popular with normies>well that doesn't matterWhat a fucking idiot.
Why are furries like this?
>>738737650FE, just look at sales. Every post 64 game sold extremely poor, memes and headcanons can't pay much
>>738740665The more embarrassing thing is that FE had years to establish cultural relevance while SF was dormant and FE still got btfo by a SF64 remake announcement.
>>738737650Starfox is Kid Icarus tier of fake relevancy. It has one game that they've remade 20 times. It's barely even a "series."
>>738741536Star Fox Assault sold more than Path of Radiance.
>>738737650>Which Nintendo franchise has more cultural relevance in your opinion?>This has been a recent debate all over the internet for some reason.I can answer this, it's because OP is a fucking fag
>>738741672The Gamecube Star Fox games destroy most Fire Emblem games, actually. The overall sales numbers between the series are close.
Star Fox 64 and its remakes can be its own series kek
>>738741536FE has always sold like shit.Even the peaks it reached like 3H sales are nothing compared to Star Fox, Zelda or any other Nintendo IP.
>>738737650How is that even a question? Starfox is 1000% more relevant, fire emblem only relevqmce is the god line qnd being that one anime game that have toovmany characters in smash
>>738741414they think that fire emblem is cringy pokemon. when in reality, it is what they imagine star fox as; good worldbuilding, grey morality plots, gay shipping, character chemistry, etc
>>738741816It actually has Star Fox beat in overall copies sold but considering FE has like 20 games all released like 3 years apart while Star Fox has 10 with big gaps inbetween...
>>738737650>cultural relevance is le goodWhy would you want normalfags infesting your series with their modern garbage? I already had it happen to one series
>>738741816awakening > 64 3dsfates > starfox wii ufortunes weave > star fox reboot
>>738741976Plus Star Fox is a first-party IP while Fire Emblem is a second-party one. If you take out Three Houses 4 million sales since it was mostly outsourced to a third-party developer (Koei-Tecmo) then it doesn't look good for Fire Emblem under Nintendo.
>>738741976FE was also locked to Japan for 10 of those years, and Japan sells less games overall. Which is a detail these threads always seems to leave out
Nobody cares about FE
>>738742148I care though
>>738742079Oh no...anyways
>>738741536>/v/ - nintendo shareholder meeting
>>738741982Yeah bro every franchise should strive to be completely irrelevant like F-Zero and never get games again.
Fire emblem 7 has more romhacks than your entire series has games LOL
>>738742208At least F-Zero 1 hasn't been remade 4 times. It died with dignity
>>738737650>one regularly receives new games>the other just endlessly remakes a 25 year old game with the new gimmick of the console tacked on
>>738737650Star Fox just because of how many people were turned into furscum by Crystal.
Starfox, how is that even a debate? Everyone knows Barrel roll and recognize Fox
>>738738880post the damned link. Protobanham's Lucina is one of a kind.
>>738742320That also applies to Fire Emblem:>FE6: Marth reboot>FE8: Gaiden reboot>FE9: Marth reboot again>FE11&12: Marth remake>FE15: Gaiden remake
Can you say even 1 notable quote from fox macloud?>uhh uhh furries though! Fire emblem has those too.
>>738742680>>FE6: Marth reboot>>FE8: Gaiden reboot>>FE9: Marth reboot againdisingenuous tranny furry
>>738742680Disingenuous as fuck while somehow ignoring the actual other Marth remake in FE3.
>>738742785>>738742857To be fair, FE6 really is lowkey just an FE1 reimagining.
>>738742680You actually have no fucking idea what you're talking about do you?
>>738742680>names a bunch of things marth reboots>they arent>misses the only actual marth reboot
>>738742857I forgot FE3 Book 1 existed, like most of the fanbase.
>>738742148I used to, but now I only care about Dimitri. And I may have played more FE games than Star Fox games but I think Star Fox is more iconic because it has a set of long-standing main characters and vehicles with distinct and easily recognizable designs that persist even in different artsyles. At best FE has Marth as an icon but he's a generic anime fantasy guy that most people wouldn't recognize if his look strayed too far from his smash render.
>>738742958They can't refute FE9 either. They just think Ike is Marth. Of course it's not Ike. Elincia is Marth, down to having to go cozy up to the neighboring empire to get help and oh no, in the sequel, the empire ends up fucking you over, wow, never seen this one before. Thankfully we have a goddess (I changed it from a dragon, OC donut steel) on our side to beat the goddess (I changed it from a dragon again, OC donut steel) controlling the empire.
>>738743174>I used to, but now I only care about DimitriGo away femoid.
>>738743174Woman detectedOpinion rejected
>>738742958In what goddamn way is Roy anything like Marth?>>738743224>Has to disregard the MC of the game to work>Has to stretch and oversimply the plots of PoR and RD to make it workGot any other pearls of wisdom you'd like to share? Are you going to tell us how FE14 is really an elaborate remake of FE1?
Even a "reimagining" is better than THE EXACT SAME FUCKING GAME
>>738743713I couldn't accept Marth's line being evil at some point so FE14 is non-canon. They should have stuck to the formula.
>>738743713>In what goddamn way is Roy anything like Marth?Are you a Smash player or something? The real Roy has a lot in common with Marth. Both young Lords forced into a position of leadership due to their father not being able to lead. Both doubt their abilities to lead but get reassured by their old man guardian and learn to rely on their friends as their strength. Also if you've played FE6, you'd notice all the countless callbacks like Rutger to Navarre, Lilina to Caeda, Zephiel to Hardin, both having really large casts compared to other FEs. The first map is even FE1's map flipped sideways.
>>738742710>Bedabadaba.Iconic.
>>738744041>both are reluctant heroes a-and theres women in their games!>and they have an army!>and an old guy!thats every fire emblem
>>738739809miyamoto didnt make fire emblem
>>738744971Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>738737650Star Fox cultural relevance: smash and one noteworthy game 30 years agoFire Emblem is clearly more relevant.
>>738743713almost ever character in one is a paralel to a character in 1 hell. fe6 is where all the archetypes solidified themselves
>>738745221Fire Emblem's relevance: smash and one noteworthy game 7 years agoWow so much more relevant
>>738738983this
>>738737650I dont see why this is a debate, neither are particularly popular I guess fire emblem is more hated for what its worth since nintendo fans hate anime and smash fags seethe about it 24/7
>>738745293>Fire Emblem's relevance: smashno thats starfoxs relevance
>>738737650>cultural relevancewhat? None of them has any cultural relevance, do they?
>>738745445i mean starfox has do a barrel roll and furry porn, I think the closest fire emblem has to a normie meme was the lucina and spiderman shipping
>>738744041>>738745140>Roy has eyes, Marth has eyes clearly they're the same!>>738745270Because FE is more based on traditional fantasy, which has its tropes based on things way older than itself for decades
>>738745678What do the elephants carrying the world have to do with cute anime women?
>>738745678>which has its tropes based on things way older than itself for decadesi mean like ones specific to fe like christmas cavs
>>738744971>>738745678I'm convinced anyone who can't catch the obvious paralles the devs specifically made between FE6 and Marth's games hasn't actually played it. Pic very much related but your dumbasses probably can't even tell me why.
>>738745886She started the Miledy archetype who Cherche from Awakening is based on.
>>738746065Cormag?
FE squanders it's potential cultural impact by diluting it's own capital with new waves of interchangeable and disposable generic anime characters every game. Nothing can stick if nothing sticks around.
>>738745770Eyes, legs, obviouly they're the same>>738745871>>738745886Having broad general archetypes and allusions to past games doesn't make them the literal same thing you dipshits
>>738746359Not everything needs a "marketable" face, bing bing boy
>>738746441Last time I checked Terry Pratchett didn't write any animes but I'd love to watch animations based on some of his works.
>>738746441>the literal same thingStop putting words in my mouth, I never once said that. I'm not the first guy either, him saying FE9 is a Marth reboot is full retard. But FE6 is 100% supposed to be a kind of retread of FE1 as a way to start fresh on a new handheld after Kaga left. And I'm not saying that as a bad thing either, I love FE6. But it pisses me off that you're so in denial about it.
>>738742680>FE9: Marth reboot againOkay, this should be entertaining. Please tell me how PoR is an Archanea rehash, I'm dying to know.
>>738746827>>738743224
>>738746696Okay, got my wires crossed.But even still, sure, it pays tributes to the start of the series, but it is not the same, and saying it is, is disingenuous. FE6 has as much to do with FE1 as Pokemon Gen 3 has to do with Gen 1, which was also intended to a reflection of sorts to gen 1
>>738737650>snoy seethe thread to get Nintendo fans to infight1. -10million karma to ziony2. DO NOT FALL FOR IT YOU RETARDSHoly fucking shit.
>>738737650>Star Fox vs. Fire EmblemIs this garbage going to be spammed for the rest of the year now?
>>738746954You think too highly of the retards that post here. There's no Snoy with some 200 IQ keikaku to get Nintendo fans against each other, it's just some faggot bringing Twitter drama over to /v/ as usual.
>>738740665And squid kids are running circles around both. What are you really getting at?
>>738737650FE has more relevance in the sphere of parasocial anime fixations. 3H at least has inspired some knockoffs of it most popular characters. However, FE itself is just a drop in the ocean of parasocial animeslop and is more influenced by other forces in that field than the other way around.
Is this gonna be another forced ri/v/alry like Sonic vs Kirby?
>>738746868>Elincia is MarthOkay I was right, that was entertaining. What a fucking retard. So who is Ike then? Ogma?
>>738737650>Which Nintendo franchise has more cultural relevance in your opinion?Do a Barrel Roll has been an internet meme since the dawn of the internet
>>738747130So long as the faggot forcing this thread keeps spamming it
>>738747235Yes. Independent mercenaries but related to the country that are assisting Marth in retaking his kingdom from Grust.
>>738746954Infight? You think we're on some team because we play Nintendo games? We need to hold the line or what?
I wonder if it's the same retard who tried to pin Bloodstained and Hollow Knight fans against one another.
>>738747371Hahaha! You're a fucking clown. Amazing, the story of Ogma rising up to become one of the most known and revered war heroes in Archanea. I dig it.
>>738747519It's a nice twist because they already retold Marth's story normally in FE6. Different perspective keeps it fresh.
Okay but there isn't a single Fire Emblem character with as much aura as Star Wolf.
>>738747519Remember when ogmas dad died and he was the greatest general in daein history and stole the fire emblem from them?
All I know is that I've come to hate FE as a franchise after starting on the series with the gba to now after IS has shown again and again how they'll completely bastardize their past works while I still love Star Fox as a series despite most of the games after 64 being disappointing in some way or another.
>>738740902I've been in Fire Emblem communities and nobody quotes that. Awakening quotes went around often when the game released but they didn't have any lasting power.
>>738747836>they'll completely bastardize their past works?
>>738737650>Which Nintendo franchise has more cultural relevance in your opinion?>This has been a recent debate all over the internet for some reason.Oh, Matt, what have you done lmao"Cultural relevance" I would argue Star Fox simply because it had a much larger impact in the early internet era when Fire Emblem was still relatively unknown.Peppy's "Do a barrel roll!", Wolf's "Can't let you do that, ___", and Slippy's existence were all early internet memes that you still see/hear on occasion today.That sort of stuff is what helps Star Fox at least be somewhat recognizable. Whereas Fire Emblem characters just look like any anime drawing.Now in terms of financial success, Fire Emblem hands down. Fire Emblem was a bottom-feeder series for years until Awakening completely revived that series.Now it is arguably one of Nintendo's top earners, especially thanks to that gacha mobile game. Porn-addicted weebs love spending money on PNGs.And to be fair, Fire Emblem Three Houses was a stellar game in its own right.BUT Star Fox is making a comeback. May not be as big as Fire Emblem, but depending on how hard they push it, could become one of the next big IPs.
>>738737650My mom recognizes star fox but none of the fire emblem characters.
>>738747929Way to out yourself as a newfag zoomy
>>738748098Fuck off, IS dicksucker. FE is owned by hacks and will continue to be degraded by hacks.
>>738748106>Fire Emblem Three Houses was a stellar game in its own right.wrong
>>738747657I forgive the fact that they copied Archanea for Elibe because it's neat that they did it backwards, even though they did things like copy FE1's first map for FE6's first map. Still, FE6 is FE3, the second part, where a ruler goes mad with power and tries to subjugate the entire continent under the rule of evil dragons, while FE7 is FE1, the first part, where the goal of defending your home eventually leads to preventing a resurgence of evil dragons.
>>738748521Seethe more smashie tranny
>>738748521perhaps explain what you mean
