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Do you want her to come to Evercold with us /v/?
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>>739151062
Bring her and Gaia to the Source
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>>739151062
I want Ryne to come to my dick inside
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>>739151397
what did he mean by this
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>>739151062
>>739151160
I love hebes so god damn much
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>>739151062
She's probably overall my favorite character and not just because I want to slam her pregnant and I think essentially ending her off with the last wing of Eden did a huge disservice to her character (and an even bigger one to Gaia's). Eden had a great start but really fumbled all of its potential and had a shitty ending that wasted it, leaving a poor sendoff for Ryne and Gaia, who have only had tiny cameos since. So, yeah, I'd like her to get to hang out again. I dunno if she'd have much of an arc, but it would make sense for her to be present since the plot is turning to stopping the Rejoinings from wiping out all life on all shards. Gather all of the interdimensional wives to help us.
>Cyella
>Zero
>Ryne
>Gaia
>Sphene
>Oracle of Ice or whatever
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>>739151834
I never actually played the Eden series. I didn't start playing the game till last summer. I pretty much marathoned from ARR through DT (being a teacher has it's perks), so I only mostly did key MSQ. It doesn't sound like I'm missing too much if it ended up being disappointing?
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>>739151062
Ryne won't come. Gaia won't come. Yugiri won't come. Meteion won't come. Sphene won't come.
Let it go.
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>>739152159
I'll make them come if you get what I'm saying
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>>739152089
You should do all of the raid, trial, and 24-man content. It's all worth doing. Eden's first two wings are great, and the last wing has good fights (though at this point they're probably powercrept into the dirt). The disappointing element for the third wing is that it sets up a bunch of stuff could potentially be some of the coolest shit imaginable, ESPECIALLY at that point in the story (i.e. right after defeating Elidibus and when you're just starting to confront Fanny Danny). It just doesn't do anything actually interesting with the concepts and kind of squanders them for a story that is, at least, very faithful to the Nomura tone that it's going for. It feels like some Kingdom Hearts shit (though it's kind of meant to be an homage to FF8, I guess). It's possibly the biggest case of wasted potential in the game, and I'm not really sure if it's because of Covid or they just leaned too hard into the Nomura-isms.

Should do Eden for the Warrior of Light's teen goth gf with DSL, either way.
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lil nigga mooj
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>>739151062
I only want to see her and Gaia in porn. I never want to see either of them in the actual game again.
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who was in the wrong here
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>>739152397
whats lil nig's problem???
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>>739152367
Hm, guess I'll check it out. Ryne's a good character and I really liked her dynamic with Thancred. Summer break is coming up again so I'll have time to do some stuff I missed out on. Though I suspect much of this summer will be used leveling up my Disciple of Land/Hand stuff and getting a house between some of the content I skipped over in the name of catching up with the story.
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>>739152959
The parasocial nightclub crowd needs to be stomped out and the limsa gooner modders are the worst of those.
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If they ever add another race, what do you want them to add?
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>>739151062
Yes. I need a cocksheath to keep it warm in the Evercold.
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>>739151062
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>739151062
please post more ryne
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>>739153732
Elins
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Who do you breed first? Ryne or Gaia?
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>>739153732
Rats
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>>739154042
both at once, start to cum in one and dip in the other mid load
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>>739154042
Rats
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>>739154042
Blowjob and paizuri with Gaia
Missionary nakadashi with Ryne
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What will it be, sir?
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>>739153732
Qu
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>>739154147
Disgusting.
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>>739154147
Can I get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh--
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>>739153732
Im not a furry but I would fuck that furry.
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>>739154060
>Would have to rework all the 10k+ armor pieces in the game to make it work with the feet, legs, abdomen, and head
>But it would be worth it
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>>739154176
Right? Wait til you see them naked
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>>739154169
Would anyone play a Qu? I mean, I would. Trannies might. But would anyone else? What about bangaa
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>>739154194
Yeah, who am I kidding? It'll never happen. It'd probably be even less popular than hroth.
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>>739153065
now thats a classic
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>>739153732
I would quite enjoy Burmecians
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Given that Viper and Picto are already kinda evolved mode coded do you expect they will be condensed ever more?
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>>739151062
Fapping to Ryne cosplayers
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>>739154315
I would not, but I'd make my retainer one for sure.
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>evercold
>8 new races
>they are the horde equivalent of final fantasy xiv and are in direct competition with warriors of light
What races are they, what is their starting world, would it even work
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>>739154315
We're lacking in fat bastard representation in FFXIV and it's discriminatory.
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>>739154790
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>>739154952
Chillin' here in Limsa in my jorts (in my jorts)
My brother come he got a wee report (a report)
He see a voidsent by the name of Chort (yeah it's Chort)
So shocked that I can't muster a retort (no retort)
Yeh yeh
Don't distort it
Yeh yeh
He da Chorty
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>just finished myths of the realm for the first time
>eulogia
I had no idea what the FUCK was happening. I evaded some moon line AOEs and then exploded from some other mechanic I didn't see. at some point half the raid was dead and I was the only healer alive.
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>>739156270
It's literally the mechanics from the previous bosses. Only the arms thing is new.
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>>739151160
Is it possible now? I haven't did 7.5 yet, so I was wondering.
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>>739156239
i would be all down for a post-patch of evercold to just be a housing patch, were you can get materials and level up jobs without problem or even get a little town, hell if yakuza infinite wealth did it with 2 cent there is nothing Yoshi p from doing it too
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>Sorry we're never going to use these characters again because some Limsa idlers can't be assed to spend two hours doing a raid series or something.
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>>739154952
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>>739156427
WoL finally came in contact with the interdimensional travel key, Ethos, without the vessel it was in, and the key talked to the WoL and showed him a golden path that led him back to the thirteen when we needed to go there to check on Zero. So we can "freely" travel to other shards now, but when Zero asked us how we got there, neither she nor Golbez could see the portal we opened, which made Zero sad because she said that she had hoped she would be able to see her friends again, so right now, it looks like shard travel is restricted to the WoL only.
However, we saw Alphinaud and Estinien with the WoL on the 4th in the teaser trailer, so we are obviously gonna find a way to take other people with us
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>>739156537
>eva raid would be perfect to bring back the g-warrior
>won't happen because it would require people to do the weapons trials
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>>739151062
As hot as she is, I'd rather have a Y'Shtola solo adventure
>>739156427
The trailer does say "Unite the stars into one" I suspect that by the end we'll bring every reflection into the same plane of existance, orbiting arround the sun or something. They can't just, overlap forever.
That or mix everything into the same planet? Is not like the First or ther 9th have that big of an inhabited landamass atm
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>>739154610
Picto still has the normal palette and the second palette as different buttons. Same with the light and dark Holy paint attack,
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>>739156537
You say that but Crystal Tower was made mandatory AFTER Shadowbringers' release. Nothing stopping them from making Edenverse mandatory for new characters as well
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>>739156729
Those mech fights were pure, hot, liquid shit.
>you know what would be so cool?
>Gundam fights!
>oh man that would be so sick to see the WoL in a mech!
>oh but we have to put it in ghe ff14 engine
Result: you get two moves with huge recharge that suck to use, and you move at the pace of an elderly snail pushing a grandma in a wheelchair
In other words, like everything else they think is cool from another game and add in, underbaked worthless trash
See also:
>occult crescent
>island sanctuary
>blue mage
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>>739156904
PCT has 19 buttons now
Condense AoE into single target and that's 17
Comet and Holy together is 16
Filler spells together is 15
They gotta get down to 12 somehow.
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>>739153732
Lupins
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>were putting together a te- i mean band
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>>739156987
>Result: you get two moves with huge recharge that suck to use
every job will be a g warrior soon
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>>739157162
At best we'd get a mech per role and that would still be wishful thinking
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>>739157158
>make unique victory poses for every job
>don't play those in clear cutscenes
why
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I've been thinking of just going back to lala. I mean, I still have quite a few fantas saved up, so might as well. But with the character creator changes that are coming in EC, I've also been thinking maybe I should just wait for that to drop before going back to lalaland
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>>739157289
I mean we're probably getting a Fanta for Evercold as well, so why not?
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>>739157289
Consider going back to WoW
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>>739157289
Do it im tired of seeing your red wuk in the threads
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>>739157289
do it
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>>739152397
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>>739157289
You never ended up making that enormous waterfall of HMOFA hrothgar /gposes so may as well return to being a little pink demon

Save the hrothgar's appearance in case you change your mind though
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>>739157347
I doubt it considering they handed out like 4 free ones over the course of DT.
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>>739157702
Yeah but if they're gonna revamp character creation as well, they'll probably throw another fanta
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>>739151062
>>739151160
>>739151834
>>739152367
>Blue/green-eyed ginger with some Asiatic features


I will now consider playing this game (I probably won't. I just want to jerk it to this ginger goddess).
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>>739153732
Garleans - cause' fuck Aether, man.
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>>739154952
Chort isn't playable, I need to fully immerse myself in the character
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>>739157798
Based Ryne appreciator.
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>>739157927
need all FFXIV memes you have
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>>739158661
Here's an old one.
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>>739159029
Only true oldfags will understand.
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>>739151062
No, let me take Nanamo instead.
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For subsequent phantom weapons for alt jobs, can I just buy them at the latest stage for 1.5k tomestones or do I need to buy them each stage to get to the final one?
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>>739159152
You have to buy all previous stages.
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>>739159145
more like Analmo
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>>739159178
Thanks
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>>739153732
rats, bangaa, guado (but make them slightly more dryad-ish than just elves 2) or ivalician moogles (kemolala)
It would be funny if they added that FFTA2 flying race just to make the wing mounts/ornaments look really stupid on them
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>>739159218
Rest in hell, Teledji.
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>evercold will be doing weeklies and removing tomes
>the possibility that the mentally unfit hunt train people will be out of the job for the most part
Imagine only 1 weekly killing of A ranks or something.
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>>739159371
Hunt trains I could see turning into the uncontested king of Poetics grinds after all other tomestone types are removed, therefore still more or less in vogue after Evercold throws them out into the snow

That being said if those zone changes and how zones are handled is going to change like Fanfest said they will, I could also see EC trains becoming more of a FATE/NM train than an actual hunt train
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>>739156537
Worked for Alisaie
>>739156959
I really wish they would've made it mandatory for 5.3 only so you still had to actually choose to remember who Graha was, would have been a great way to actually address the canon of certain side quests for players who don't understand that the events in them have to happen no matter what. It's also funny when you consider that Twinning was such a huge meme and omega/alexander are still completely optional for it
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>>739154790
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>>739157927
>been playing on aether long before all that cog shit happened
Feels good knowing I never having to worry about waiting forever in duty finder.
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the combat made me quit xiv after endwalker but ill come back for evercold with the "new" combat and changes and see if Its more interesting
2 min meta and other things made me not want to play
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>>739158661
LOL
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>>739159753
I was annoyed at the 2m meta and shit, but DT is what took me out.
Planning to come back a few months before EC to catch up and decide on jobs to try out in it.
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>>739151160
>>739157158
>>739158637
Amazing (and also scary) how quickly the last 7 years have flown...
>>739154042
Maybe Gaia first honestly since she's the most effort, then once she's used up I can spend the rest of the night snuggling with Ryne.
>>739154624
Are there any good ones?
>>739153875
here you go, perv
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she's back
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>>739151062
No, I want Thancred to come with me.
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who are some essential xiv content creators?
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>>739160208
meh, im not into hypno
nice though
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>>739160221
dios mio... la creatura devoluciones
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>>739160410
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>>739160341
Mad because small guy.
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>>739160427
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>739160221
Nobody knows who you are, nor do we care.
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>>739160378
>meh, I'm not into hypno
the perfect "Before" caption lol.
but yeah that's fair enough. have this (I should do more RynexSpeen stuff...)
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I was thinking about getting into this but it looks like it's just another dogshit gooner "game" for pedos.
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>>739160431
Cider spider is literally the only content creator I follow.
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>>739160505
People really gotta fix Speen's neck when they're posing her. The scaling is all wrong.
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>>739157138
Agreed
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>>739153732
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>>739160531
He's basically the only one who's there to play the game and have fun.
Even when he complains it isn't some bitch tier bullshittery amd is usually stuff directly related to the game. Like accursed hoards.

There's a handful that are alright, like wesker, but most of them are annoying, focus on drama, or try too hard to be "epic raiders".
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>>739151829
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So we let literal vg attentionfags treat v like over there without impunity huh
Hypocrite faggots
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>>739151797
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I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD
HALMARUT'S PUSSY IS EVERCOLD
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Yes
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Classic Dragoon look
Always liked the blue representation more than purple
>>739160221
>>739160427
I was going to write some encouraging words and tell you to do what you want to do in the end on the original post
Welcome back!
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>>739160821
now I need help picking hairstyle
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>>739151062
I genuinely think she's coming with us. The timing is just perfect, we've been looking for a way to cross into the shards for years now and we found one. We know from the trailer that we can bring people along with us. Ryne has been out of the MSQ for, what, five years now? Plus we're raring for some fanservice after the shitshow that was DT, so bringing back a character from the fan-favorite expansion seems like a great choice. All that being said i don't think Gaia will actually come with us though, just because she's unfortunately stuck in side-content jail.
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Speen, you say?
https://files.catbox.moe/jo6gfq.mp4
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This is what the perfect 8.0 party looks like.
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>>739160997
Martyn instead of Sadu.
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>>739160997
>Magnai
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>>739160505
lose alisaie and we're talkin
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>>739160892
3 or 5
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>>739160997
>sadu and magnai
>zero
>thieves' cunt
the "boss has no idea what the fuck they are saying or doing" squad
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>>739160997
the final boss is a breeding minigame, you say? that's just crazy enough to work
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>>739160892
2, 3 and 8 all look good
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>>739160947
Sphene is female emet-selch both in role in the story, but also in archetype, only reversed to cater to another genre - Emet is a dark, sad boy who is willing to destroy the world for the sake of love and who women want to fix, while Sphene is a perfect tragic princess, charming, feminine but also with a strong will to save her people, and willing to sacrifice anything for it, and men want to save her. I think this also serves to point out one in the infinite ways ShB is better written, even if people loved Emet we never revived him and got him a happy ending, because it would be cheap. And DT is very, very cheap, so we get not!sphene to ruin any emotional impact her tragedy admitedly didn't have
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>>739160997
How come estinien was the only one able to escape job quest jail? Jacke and Leveva were decently fun enough, if estinien could get a glow up then so could they
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>>739160947
Sphorn
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>>739160997
You're missing HIM
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>>739160997
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>>739161182
Oboro was in Stormblood MSQ for two seconds.
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>>739160709
How the fuck do I go if I want to pose a big tit Raya? Can I shove her face into any character without needing an specific mod for her?
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>>739161097
>>739161158
Think I'm going with this one
At least for a while
Should I tone down the highlights?
I feel like they might be too dark for this hairstyle
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>>739161202
OUR FUUARKING HEROES
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>>739161182
Dragoons were actually pertinent to Heavensward and ARR/1.X's DRG job quests were pretty much HW set-up
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>>739161182
Estinien has FFIV privileges, the devs love that fucking game over anything else
Of course their Kain would get priority
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>>739151062
No. I don't want to see a single child in our party in Evercold. I want the twins and everyone under 5'3 to disappear from the game.
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>>739161242
they are indeed. go with no highlights imo
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>>739160997
If you don't appreciate Zero, I don't fuck with you
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>>739161334
The twins are growing up next expansion. But they are just going to scale up their current model so they have the same proportions instead of turning into giraffes
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>>739161338
okay, no highlights (left) or slightly discolored highlights (right)?
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>tfw the Scions are a terrible Full Party because there is no Phys Ranged for the full buff
Who should get the new phys range class
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Bro so sad people stopped giving a fuck about him he swapped to his other modbeast
Caricature
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>>739161182
>>739161210
>>739161251
>tfw talking to cuckdargelt when you liberate ala mhigo before dealing with his retarded nephew
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>>739161436
Useless pig bitch.
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>>739161242
>tfw biggers are speaking again
>>739161412
I think he's right about no highlights for this one
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>>739161290
Watch yourself profligate. Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
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>>739161436
That's because I'm the phys ranged.
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WHAT IS IT LIKE WHEN YOU PULL BACK THE CURTAIN AND REALIZE EVERY WRONG IS RIGHT?
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Why did the game give her yaoi hands?
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>>739161560
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>>739161556
those niggers are actually following through on sephirot being a primal centered around a meracydian world-tree

and on top of it they're casting doubt on whether the WoL is doing the right thing or not

total fiend victory
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You are the night of the end of the tunnel, THE EMPTY VOID WHERE THE SERPENT LIES
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>"I am the end and the beginning"
>Azem's symbol is an ouroboros
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>>739161560
Are they going to try and make her sympathetic with some sad background sob story like Yotsuyu? Only this time...you save her/not kill her?
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>>739161714
She's Aerith and she's gonna let herself die to make our plan work.
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>>739161664
SAY MY NAME
SAY MY NAME
SEPHIROT!
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>>739161721
still haven't found it myself
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this is a dangerous portrait
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>>739161436
The scions are a very unusual JRPG party in general just because of how many nerds there are. There's Thancred (man with gun), Estinien (Dragoon), Y'shtola (mage), Alphinaud (mage), Alisae (mage), Krille (mage), Urienger (mage), G'raha (mage). And its not just in gameplay, in-lore they all fill the same character archetype of "scientist who delivers exposition dialogue conveniently", which makes sense because they're all magic scientists. This imposes some restrictions to the gameplay and story but i also feel really helps to stand out from most other JRPG parties, in a good way.
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>>739161814
i mean showing off the goods is one way, but make em work for it a bit
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>>739161814
*SSSSSNNNNNIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFF*
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WANTING, I LIE
TOO WEARY TO DIE
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>>739161814
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>>739161714
Rather than sympathetic i really wish whey just kept her very pragmatic. Instead of trying to redeem her because she's a cute girl and so we want to save her, just have her perform evil acts simply for the sake of having the star survive. Then when we inevitably find a way to fix the issue without killing people, have her actually help us but in a way where we can't forgive her because she already crossed too many lines. So we have a common goal, but different views on how to get there. You know, like how they said we would for the Scions in DT?
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OLE OLE OLE IN THREE MINUTES GET YOUR ASS HERE OR GET FUCKED
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>>739161814
Surprised no one ever uses four point fury for shit like this. its literally upside down with your legs spread.
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>>739161969
You can't.
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>>739151062
I think that would be cool but it would be weird for her to come but not Gaia and Gaia is locked in side content hell
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>>739151834
>Cyella
There's side content hell and then there's side content giga hell
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>>739160997
Based, I really would like to see a cunning dickass thief in the party again. Thancred filled that role for 1.0 to about Stormblood, and then he became a surrogate dad character. And we never got a replacement for that sort of archetype. We have like ten peerless geniuses of various subjects of magic in our crew, let's get a Joseph Joestar type.
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>>739152089
>Missed out on having side content characters show up for the big final shipbuild
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>>739153732
I don't really think there's room for any more, the wolf anthros from stormblood maybe
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>>739162126
replace alisaie with yaana
and give ali another pet arc and remain in pet arc hell
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>>739152089
You should absolutely do every single optional trial series, 8-man raid series and 24-man series from each expansion. There's some of the best content both gameplay and storywise in those. Like the other anon said you already missed out on some really cool MSQ content from rushing it.
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>>739152959
The people who decided the billboard was a good idea, being a gooner is one thing, advertising that degeneracy where it can draw the attention of the state is another thing entirely, we are already having issues now with the internet getting locked down to "protect the children" imagine if XIV got specifically targeted
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>>739162126
well, I'll be damned
Yoshida truly is listening to the playerbase now...
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>>739154784
Beasts
Underground
No
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>>739156729
There is precedent for locking side content behind side content though with bozja needing an alliance raid
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Did they only take the cum out of the cum chalice because they were sick of people calling it a cum chalice
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>>739161202
You would make Aenor go with just one brother? You monster, she needs her roe bro dick dosage, she's been behind for years now.
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>>739162275
Nesting side-content like that is probably why Bozja ended pretty abruptly and they didn't do it again
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>>739157158
I'll be a groupie
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>>739157186
That is a bit weird yeah
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>>739162086
Our party lacks any kind of conflict at all which is why it's so fucking boring. Things haven't been interesting since Estinien and Ysayle. Everyone is just best friend and if there is any differences someone fucks off for awhile and then comes back and we are all best friends again. We need someone that is a massive asshole like Fordola so something can happen.
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>>739159145
She would die at the slightest hint of combat though
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>>739162429
I'm there, she's safe.
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>>739158661
Best I can do is one.
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>>739162429
She could ride Raubahn like
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>>739162317
specifically put Curious Gorge in there for Aenor to make passes at him as party right-click text chatter and/or draw Dorgono's ire
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>>739151160
and have her be a breeding sow for Mhigger refugees
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>>739157158
K-On Houkago Tea Time re-union
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/beesknees
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>>739152959
you can tell there was like one guy in this group with way too much money thinking this would get him a ton of clout and pusy
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Ryne my beloved
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ryne stinky
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>too sleepy to play the game
>too early to go to bed
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How did we go to elpis again? I forgot.
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>>739162846
Crystal Tower time machine
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If you're banned from duty finder for 30 min can you still enter an ex trial with a premade party?
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>>739162846
made a time portal using the crystal tower on the first
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>go look up job tier list for any piece of content
>everything is in S or A tier only going down as far to B

thats not how that works.
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>>739162881
No
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>>739162906
That's how it works when every job is identical to every other job.
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>>739162939
There are definitely jobs that should score below C tier in things like deep dungeons or PVP.
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how is RDM anything higher than C
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>every job is identical to every other job
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>>739151062
Only if she brings her goth buddy with her.
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>"hmm maybe I'll level cooking desynth finally"
>spearfish, level from 200 to 600 in like under an hour
wew
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>>739160939
>All that being said i don't think Gaia will actually come with us though, just because she's unfortunately stuck in side-content jail.
I'd believe you if they didn't go out of their way to cast a voice actor. They didn't need to do that and we know SE doesn't spend more money than they think they need to.
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>>739153732
Maybe when all the shards and the source combine and they do another Realm Reborn in 10 or 11.0 they can make some of the existing beast races playable.
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>want to collect TT cards
>need to do custom deliveries

timegating is for raidfaggotry, not my cards
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>>739163343
You should have been maxing the custom deliveries as they released.
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>>739162516
I hope evolved BLM makes this meme a reality again.
Ideal BLM gameplay would be casting a single 10 minute spell that does 50% of a raid bosses health bar in damage, but Yoshida is too much of a coward to give us such ludo.
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>>739163343
>contentlet suffers
I look forward to your meltdown when it's Magitaur time
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>>739163416
Redmage is the least mobile caster
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>>739163410
but i don't give a fuck about anden or the dragon who wants to be a crafter
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>>739163416
>BLM gets a 10 second long Flare cast
>get a Black Waltz button that lets them float around while charging the cast
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>>739163479
Advanced is a diffculty between normal and extreme. Its a boss gauntlet.
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>>739163431
Yeah but if you do them every week you can buy crafting materia with scrips and then sell it. That shit sells all through the expansion.
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>>739163430
Yeah, because every other job was lobotomized.
I remember seeing the first showcase of RDM during the SB media tour and thinking that getting to move every other GCD was insanely braindead and practically made them phys ranged.
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>>739163416
Both BLM and SAM should have a skill that has a CD so high that you can realistically only use once per fight but that deals an absurd amount of damage. I mean they could genuinely do it now that we're getting rid of 2 minute meta, they just have to tweak the rest of their damage output around it. Make it so they deal less DPS overall but have a CD that deals like 200k potency or some shit. Realistically though it would be problematic, would probably enable some weird phase skips on bosses and also be really, really punishing if you somehow managed to fuck it up and have it deal no damage like by casting at a weird time when the boss is invulnerable or something
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My parties are always so shit when I'm playing phys ranged that relies on the rest of the party being able to push their buttons.
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>>739163479
Extreme level but more like an easy extreme where you don't really need perfect group synergy.
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>>739163545
I wouldn't expect Evolved to add back complexity.
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>>739163531
or i could just not do it and not have to keep track of what npcs i haven't given enough tokens to. lol
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>>739163575
It already has so that's a pretty silly stance.
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Week 3 is about to be over and I don't think I've won a single item from Windurst.
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>>739163549
level 3 limit breaks are 9000 potency btw
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>>739163416
In XI without any spell speed boost all your big ancient magic spells were 8.5 seconds long, and it felt great when you got it off. Plus as with the XI example it would really boost the efficacy of spell speed materia for BLM if they had longer casting time, really does have to happen.
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>>739163605
Where?
the 3 positionals of DRG you'll ignore with TN?
PLD having a TBN Counter?
WHM pressing 11111?
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>>739163482
>10 second cast
>get ddr minigame midcast, interrupts if you fuck it up
>succesfully completing the essentially 10 button mudra gives you ultima
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>>739163496
>>739163574
but wasn't that the Criterion mode?
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>>739163632
Are they really? I know they deal around 2% of a boss's HP. So yeah 200k is definetly too much but anyway you just add up how much potency a job deals on average to a boss and put like 40% of it into a single skill and nerf everything else they do by 40%, you get the gist.
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But what will they give reaper?
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>>739163665
It is, Criterion is harder.
Criterion (Savage) got axed entirely, instead they put a new difficulty between variant and criterion normal.
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>>739163659
>buttons are random every time and it can light up any of your assignable skills
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>>739163651
>the 3 positionals of DRG you'll ignore with TN?
Can't ignore them with True North, because True North doesn't exist in Evolved DRG's skillset (it's not a role action anymore, those were already all laid out, True North is G-O-N-E gone)

You can ignore them with that Vengeful Jump skill, but on a 20s cooldown it's not possible to ignore ALL positionals, and Vengeful Jump carries you to the target, between this and the possibility of a boss flailing around or otherwise pulling himself out of your effective distance, or maybe there's a Suzaku donut in the middle of the floor that your jump would carry you into or something, but it might not be wise in a current situation to spam your ignore-positionals cooldown as often as it's available
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>>739163729
Yeah, its essentially dancer with 10 steps
Honestly would be kino, adding the stress of entering a fucking button combination mid mechanics, like youre playing typing of the dead or some shit
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>>739163651
You mean DRG having constant positionals you can't ignore with TN because it has a CD? Or how DRG now has a way to take 90% less damage and can genuinely change how fights work because they can eat a tankbuster and save resources for a tank, or even solve mechanics in a different way because of it? Or PLD having a perfect counter that requires you to press the button as you're about to get hit, contrary to TBN's shield which only requires it to be broken? Why are you being purposefully reductive with the changes?
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>>739163651
>the 3 positionals of DRG you'll ignore with TN?
Knowing when you can get your positional or when you'll have to spend a Jump on it, spending your Jumps efficiently without overcapping, making efficient use of Sky High. All more complexity than current DRG has.
>PLD having a TBN Counter?
Yep, and having the Cover dash to fish for more counters or save people.
>WHM pressing 11111?
You can't because you have to GCD heal everything now. And you'll have to actually restore HP in the process rather than just dumping lilies.

All more complex than the current versions because they're faster paced and require more decision making in the moment. If you disagree it's because you somehow believe that complexity is when more buttons.
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>>739163191
I wish desynth exp had an actual purpose. no i do not consider raising the odds of getting hq materials by like 2% to be an actual purpose.
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>>739163716
Reaper, Pictomancer and Viper will probably not see many changes imo, all of them sort of do their own thing in between bursts, especially Pictomancer
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lol he got someone with his bait

good job anon. he looks like a thrasher
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>>739163795
Ten hits in archive for pic
Avatarfag
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Honestly the idea of the main tank counter might make me drop melee dps
if the new tank is actually just gunshield man i might just main that for raid, it sounds so cool
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>>739163575
You can just play BLM in PVP and experience it right now, you constantly have to make a choice between mobility or standing still and doing more damage. Granted, the cast times are extremely short comparatively, but that's because the general speed of moment-to-moment decision making in PVP is much higher than in PVE.
Having a few spells with long cast times as part of the rotation of evolved BLM is hardly unrealistic. Obviously we're not getting HW or even SB BLM back, but that would also be completely unplayable in modern DDR content.
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The funniest thing about Evercold is that for years, basically since ARR started, everyone always assumed the big break glass in emergency situation was a blatant FF7 expansion, when in fact it was a blatant Shadowbringers expansion. And it's working way better than Midgard in XIV ever could.
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>>739163859
Evercold is the ff7 exapc.
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>>739163842
What did you do in Final Fantasy today? Did you play the game today?
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>>739163883
Evercold is the Shadowbringers expansion.
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>>739163852
there already is a mechanic like that. samurai have it
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>>739163883
I guess in the sense it skips past FF7 entirely and goes straight to the Norse inspiration at its heart
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>>739163859
Evercold is an Endwalker expansion.
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>>739163823
>merely pretending
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>>739163896
I couldn't take this scene seriously, because she's supposed to be singing, but they couldn't be asked to get some voice acting, or at least find some vocal samples for that scene, so the fact that it is completely silent is just comical
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>>739163896
I played Final Fantasy XIV today!

Finished up my WT that was about to expire. 1 line only
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Speaking of nordic themes, we're definetly going to be using the full set of chuunibyou norse vernacular for this one. I'm betting the people on the fourth refer to the world freezing over as Ragnarok. The giant wanderers are going to be Jotunns. Now we just need to shoehorn Odin, Thor and Mjolnir in there somehow.
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>>739163859
Shadowbringers and FFVII did the dbz fusion dance for Evercold.
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>>739161860
Yeah they gotta earn those tater tots
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can metion fly to other shards?
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>>739163915
No that's A Realm Reforged
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>>739163896
I did some beast tribe dailies
and did some of the latest variant dungeon
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>>739163952
The song playing is supposed to be her singing. It's the same way they present Ulmia singing the same song in XI. For all the things they fucked up in that shitty alliance raid, that was correct.

>>739163969
BASED! Khloe has broken my heart too many times to give a shit about WT anymore.

>>739163989
Frozen world should be Fimbulvinter albeit.
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>>739162086
youll never get a dickass again because alisaie would get offended and hoot and hollar.
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>>739164013
Yes, because she comes with me everywhere I go.
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>>739163989
Odin is the malera.
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>>739163952
Its also just so akward. She's standing alone in the middle of this tavern singing completely acapella to like 3 people who are standing up, two meters away from her. I've never though about it but surely old-timey bards didn't sing like this at wide-open establishments right? You need a backup instrument and also a closed venue if your voice is going to carry at all. And its even weirder because XIV has a ton of technology. I mean fuck she's from Solution 9. If she had a microphone in that scene would anyone even bat an eye?
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>>739163908
it reduces the damage you take by like 10%
crest of time borrowed is more satisfying anyway
Im not touching that shit job
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>>739164028
Yeah, you're right, its definetly going to be Fimbulvinter
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>>739164028
Khloe hates you too!
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>>739163896
Spedrun through all of Merchant's Tale, now im going to start on my 500k cosmic points grind.
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>Promo shows only Alpinaud and Estinien and old Yshtola
>yfw final trailer shoehorns Graha, Thancred, Urianger, and Alisaie last minute to ruin the GOATs trip.
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>>739164012
ya know you could just use existing tools in game. like a certain standing pose
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>>739164107
I hope you figured out the puzzles honestly.
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>>739163906
>>739163912
Gee that sure does look like a circular city divided up into sections with a large reactor in the center
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>>739164110
there is no old yshtola.

i agree the 2nd part will shoehorn that stupid cunt alisaie.
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>>739164148
You'll never guess why Midgar is structured like that
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>>739164121
That's true, but the full version is so much nicer, no teasing, all payoff. I just A) Don't want a 3 day vacation and B) actually do respect you enough to publically lewd you

Probably not privately either, it's only fun if it's mutual
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I cleared my first ultimate!
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>>739164170
to not publically*
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>>739164181
which one?
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>>739163859
Glass was broken in 1.0 for the meteor project and nael van darnus
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>>739164181
Grats! Which one?
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>>739164170
do what you like. just dont' make it boring
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>>739161904
The Scions forgive people that want to be forgiven.
And Halmarut is a pragmatist out of necessity, not by nature - that's the important thing desu.
Calyx on the other hand would've pursued his bullshit whether the solstice was coming or not.
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>>739164162
Old cat lady is Yshtola, dude. Your waifu finally stopped using glamours to look young.
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>>739163896
I genuinely have nothing to do in the game right now. Hate cosmic exploration, already done with the variant dungeon, already got the 8x full clear mount from the deep dungeon, already have all beast tribes maxed, already have everything i want from occult crescent, don't really have anything i want from the 24-man raids at all. I'm literally just wanting for OC part 2 and beastmaster.
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Oh yeah this Evolved gameplay is peak, no cap.
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>>739164226
That's too subtle for VII and XIV players desu.
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>>739164271
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>>739164268
You get the wing mount? I'm on that grind right now.
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>>739164110
>>739164110
They will be in the game by lv 103 because we need 8 players for the lv 103 trial's duty support system.

They will also return around lv 109 and stay for the 110 trial.
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>>739164252
at least krile shit on him. fucking retarded that she has to do it to remind everyone calyx is a shitter but his va is too famous.
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>>739164346
We're going home evolved xisters.
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>>739164396
HOARY BOULDERS TIME TO SHINE.
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>>739163773
>like youre playing typing of the dead or some shit

I was the callout guy for my static during ARR, HW and SB, and whenever we had randoms who couldn't or wouldn't join voice chat fill in, I just typed my callouts during my casttimes. I used to top out a 7 words per Fire IV.
Shit was fun.
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>>739164368
Nah, last time i got the extreme mounts was back in ShB and i'm just done with that. I don't have a static and the slot machine garbage that is trying to get a pug kill on extreme trials + having to actually farm them for hours is just too stupid for me to handle
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>got some nordic shit in the 4th
>still need to do aerslant vikiing roes on the source.

are they going to do it at the same time?
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>>739158661
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>>739164515
Maybe the new tank comes from the roe homeland (they're already responsible for Warrior, the Hellsguard on Abalathia's Spine came up with that job) since it'll still need to be something known and learned on the Source for job tutor reasons
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>dawntrail blessed sibling subplot fuckery took over XI crossover story
What a fucking travesty. They couldn't even make prishe throw her electrope core like the star of tavnazia it was so obviously meant to be.
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>>739164396
I fucking despise the trust system so much for this. If I was in charge of trusts, they'd be non-canon amd let you take whoever you want like Haurchefant, Hades, and Minfilia for Tower of Zot.
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>>739164515
Nah that shit falls in the pile of forgotten content alongside Squadrons and Unukalhai getting cucked by Zero/Golbez.

>>739164578
My favorite part of of trusts is when Thancred showed up before Aetherfont, looked into the camera and said "you need a tank for the dungeon". Then immediately left after the dungeon was cleared.
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>>739164554
If BST didn't take one handed axes, I'd have guessed vikings from the northern empty.
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>>739164575
The nice little "We'll leave the light on" screen showed the whole intent of the raid was just to offer a very brief look at major events to entice you to play
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>>739164221
>>739164227
TEA
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>>739164575
The worst part to me was that after the snoozefest that were the first three fights, Shinryu was almost approaching being vaguely interesting with the two floors. But no, fuck you, here's big nigga mooj instead, now dodge some incredibly telegraphed AOEs, fucker.
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>>739164634
Having everyone for the Valigarmanda fight felt like such a missed opportunity because it felt less like we were seeing a noble side to Zoraal Ja and more like they needed an excuse to have 7 NPCs in the same place at the same time.
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>>739164634
Speaking of weird stuff, in 7.5 when Thancred and gang show up for the dungeon, they're in the snow clothes from 6.0, but when you do the dungeon they're in regular clothes.
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>>739164634
the two b team scions in charge of aerslant are gone from limsa.
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>>739164650
It cannot be overstated how terrible of an idea it is to sell people on XI using XIV gameplay.
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>>739164712
thats explaind in ew when lyse took off the snow clothes to fight in the subway.

also flahmin came back in 7.5 but she didnt show up after teh cutscene.
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>>739164712
They do the same thing in Tower of Babil, they get into artifact gear because it's their combat clothing
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>>739164746
A genre shift just for that would be neat but also it's a 20 year old game you might be only made aware even exists by a FFXIV raid series. It really does not need more than this initial sales pitch with some cool visuals.
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>>739164756
Oh yeah I forgot that was a thing, but at least they were inside the building and the MGS part with Thancred did have him use the snow coat.
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>>739164364
they don't look like that
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>>739164687
>make shantotto fight
>put her first
>pass up opportunity to do a skillchain mechanic with 8 possible patterns

>make promathia fight
>give him one mechanic
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>>739164850
irrelevant picture.
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>>739164746
I kind of agree but also that raid didn't deserve Prishe doing her proper nullifying kick scene or anything like that, these fuckers can play CoP.
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>>739164246
And what, pray-tell, would be not boring for you?
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>>739164879
Ilberd is always relevant
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>>739164575
I saw Sloptrail characters in the cutscenes so I skipped them.
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>>739164910
Best character in the whole game and it's not even close.
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Emet-Belch
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you did finish her journal before it expires, right?
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>>739164663
Very nice, good job and nice weapon, that's the best one
I'm a little jealous, haven't done that one yet
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>roll 98 on raid emote
>lose
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>>739165057
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>>739165134
IRREFUTABLE
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>>739165174
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>>739165134
its pretty cheap on the market board
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>>739153732
rats from ff9
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What image most accurately reflects the XIV playerbase?
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>>739165273
Sometimes I think I'm weird, then I see the people I play this game with and realize I'm the most normal guy ever in comparison
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>>739165309
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>>739165273
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>>739165273
A tired Japanese businessman man juxtaposed over a cute lalafell girl
>UM but they're overweight trannies as shown by the faintest pictures I'm posting
That's just Americans, regardless of the game they're playing.
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>>739153732
the bermucian dream is dead
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>>739165309
I have a wife and own a house.
The people I raid with are over 30, live with their parents and refuse to even get a part time job while complaining about money despite mysteriously having a fuckton of sanrio merchandise.
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>>739165367
I'm pretty sure Americans are the largest portion of the playerbase though.
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>>739165439
nice gut lmao
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we love sphene here
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I am a dumb smelly miera virgin
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>>739165463
I love Sphene, such a kind sole she is.
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>>739165463
truuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>739165501
congrats on coming out of the closet, anon
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>>739165381
I'm not even asking for people to be successful normalfags, like almost everyone has something wrong with them in a weird way I sometimes can't pinpoint
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>>739165439
>largest
Oh you.
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>>739165535
The internet gives voice to weirdos, they form communities and people start mirroring their habbits in order to fit in.

at least 70% of the American playerbase will bust out laughing because you said "gay"
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ZAMN! Big Coco looks like that?!
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>>739151062
I haven't played since 7.1. Is FFXIV still teasing Ryne's return to the main cast or have the writers forgotten about her?
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pov: you are a middie
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>>739165719
>ordering a custom hoodie to advertise how great you think you are
talk about narcissism.
also
>lala
>fat fuck
every time
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>>739165768
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>>739165768
I do not like futanari, and therefore wish these gentlemen a good evening before going off to visit best girl
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>>739165743
She hasn't been mentioned once since like 6.5.
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>>739154610

Pct is 100% only gonna get condensed buttons, with perhaps a slight rework on their leylines so its useage becomes morw flexible. The only thing is that their hotbar might become so empty that they maybe get more buttons to fill it out? Maybe two more paintings?

VPR could be kept entirely as is with minimal button condension. It might see some tuning on its resource generation, and I could actually see it only get only two continuation buttons, but also its two normal comboes would now lit up different continuation buttons (instead of either combo just giving the one ender it currently got). If they wanna be spicy they could add back some dots to manage.
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>>739165925
nor has there been reason to
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Going to be cooking so much food this week, just need equipment that's not from level 90
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i want sphenes spheres on my face!
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qrd on paid skill animations?
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>>739165902
If the white one is a futa she's Eorzea's reigning tuck queen
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Should she come back for Evercold?
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So will the job actions trailer be an hour now or will they release a reborn job action and evolved job action trailer separately?
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>>739166005
Eagerly looking forward to her return during the Avengers Endgame moment of 10.0 or whatever
>>739165992
You're a cuck if you pay for mods. Full stop.
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>>739166005
Only if they recast her english VA and the writers make her not a shitty mary sue.
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>>739165992
There's some great ones.
Don't pay for that shit, go to the telegram to get it all for free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpx2qxmAilk
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>>739166104
Most reasonable post in this thread.
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How do I find static, I want to do Ultimate, maybe
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>>739166179
>finding a static for ultimate in 2017/2018
>look in PF and join someone posting for the job you play
>finding a static for ultimate in 2026
>join five different dedicated discords for ultimate groups, take a personality test, show them your raider resume, prove you have cleared an ultimate before with a trial run, hope you are followed up the following week as they filter through their 50 other recruitment offers.
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>>739163217
i thought that was only because she was voicing a character in some other content so it was easy to record for something else
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Did Dawntrail kill the game/make it less relevant? I do feel like a lot of normies are done with ff14. I remember there being way more hype for dawntrail teaser trailer vs evercold.
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>>739166441
The game was already stagnant and dying in EW, but it was a slower process. People who starting in SHB checked out after 6.0 because the story was over, jobs started moving back to the office instead of WFH, the pandemic ended, etc. DT was a pretty bad MSQ on top of quadrupling down on the job design started by SHB so everyone saw it as more of the same with no decent story to at least read like SHB and EW so DT numbers dipped even harder over time.
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>>739166441
I feel like the hype for DT was way more reluctant than for EC.
No one really knew what to think about going to fantasy-mexico, and the reluctance was proven right.
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>>739166441
Yeah, combined with the finality of endwalker and its lackluster post support the game fell off quite a bit.

I've noticed every time I go to my local collectable store I see a lot more used XIV merchandise, be it the books or old figures. Found someone selling their Heavensward statue for like $15 even.
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>>739166441
it killed it for everyone i know
simply because they refused to add casual content
want to save ffxiv? remove raids and do literally anything else with those resources
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>>739166528
This is cope because everyone in the threads was so hype for golden cities and beach expansion and summer vibes. Everyone was making fun of GOTsissies because they were bitching about no stakes after we just saved the world. That said, there was more hype for DT coming off of EW when everyone still had a pretty positive outlook for the game even if the void story was dogshit and basically a sign of what was to come.
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>>739166587
You're right, they should add more dungeons that are two packs of mobs per pull followed by a boss that does half-room cleaves and stack/spread aoes.
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>>739164575
I fucking hated the ending of both raids in dawntrail. It so fucking garbage
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>>739166528
That is not what I remember at all, these threads moved a lot faster. Personally I thought the DT fanfests and announcements were incredibly dull and boring, but no one else saw it.
I knew DT was going to suck ass, but if you said anything at the time you got it rammed down your throat.
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>>739166632
>hating WWE ludokino
Arcadion was the only good thing out of all DT.
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>>739166601
>>739166635
I just remember the 1-2 guys who had a fetish for colonizing the natives
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>>739165325
Her separating gun was cool though
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>>739166005
Her character from her introduction in EW to when she gets her tacos stomped is perfect. Incompetent loser we have to prop up. The story could have been about helping the absolute worst fucking candidate ever be queen.
How cute she could have been as our little retarded girlfailure.

Instead she's written like all the stupid shit she did was actually the right thing to do the whole time and everybody is enamored by her. So lame!!
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>>739166587
I thought Pilgrims Traverse and Variant Advanced were steps in the right direction.
But yeah It was sad watching the playerbase and my casual friends dry up to nothing.
FC died, all their houses demo'd, ended up leaving Zalera and became a drifter on Aether.
Even more hardcore groups I was part of windled down to nothing, a Bozja group I was in died, a close friend I raided a few ultimates and the first DT savage tier with rage quit the game.

>>739166746
I'm pretty sure SE's fear of people taking Dawntrail that way is why it ended up sucking so bad.
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>>739166746
We call those sorts of people "white" around here
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>>739166631
dungeons really aren't casual content either
at least the ones ffxiv likes to do
>>739166790
i have heard they added a few new casual pieces recently, but DT has gone on so long it was just way too late
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For me, it's Gaia.
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>>739166773
I went to a parade once maybe we should have one of those.
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>>739166790
Quantum frustrates me to no end because from the moment they announced it I knew they were trying to invent the wheel in a world that was already reliant on highways. Every, and I meant EVERY SINGLE MMO/MMO-LITE GAME USES THE IDEA FOR QUANTUM AS A BASELINE. You choose between a handful of difficulties and the higher up you go, the harder it gets and reward potential increases. Very easy to grasp, lets you scale everything according to the same system, HOWEVER, because XIV is often a very ass-backwards game in terms of design, tying this to a one-off fight that requires a tribute system kills the entire idea on the spot. Quantum could've been for dungeons, trials, raids, alliance, extra instances inside forays, hunts, literally everything and now it's a dead idea that will be forgotten or even worse stuck to every future deep dungeon because they were too stupid to think things through.

Fucking hate Ozma, overrated hack who let the farts go to his brain when they upgraded him from alliance raids to literally anything else. Terrible batting average, put him back in the alliance mines.
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>>739166892
Not just that, but community trust in the devs completely shattered after Occult Crescent/Forked Tower.
That was the one thing a significant amount of casual game play enjoyers were hanging onto.
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>>739166790
>all their houses demo'd
this still the most retarded thing they have ever done
my apartment got demo'd and i don't think i will ever come back because of that
why couldn't the bastards save it, its literally just a few kb of information you could add to my profile
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I'm not resubbing. Combat sucks ass right now and I can follow the VN story on youtube for free without the need to go speak to wuk lamat.
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It's really kind of gay the guys modbeasting themselves into giant musclemen and still trying to convince everyone they're straight, you aint and thats okay.
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>>739151062
no
Ryne sucks
Gaia sucks
Sphene sucks
Wuk sucks
if we had to pick up a new NPC can we get rid of that disgusting sycophant freak Graha first?
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I LUV FFXIV!
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>>739166441
It did, but Evercold seems to have been a surprise hit in bringing people old and new in. Even on primal, I sometimes roam around the overworld while in PF and there are way more sprouts/new characters running around in all 3 city-state beginner maps than I've seen in years.
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>>739167050
you are not a good person
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>>739166932
Oh Quantum is complete ass. I meant PT as in the deep dungeon itself, the changes they made to the system were pretty good and kept the content alive a long longer than I expected.

I did the fight, it was actually fun. There's no reason to do it as the rewards for it are just the same as doing the DD weekly. I don't get why we couldn't have had it give a VFX version of the DD's weapons with the same ilv as the savage weapon or something. Yoshida was selling some bullshit hyping that stuff up and now no one does it.
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>>739160341
>DuskSightJess
Now it's confirmed we have twitter trannies lurking here. I always thought some posters were fucking weird how they would post without knowing anything about board culture, about /v/ they just post reactively defending FFXIV devs or that weirdo voice actor who voiced Wuk Lamat.
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>>739153649
>>Boss fights: if you're a high end raider, then this was a great expac for you. But like 5% of the players actually do raiding
What about "casual" raiding ie. the regular matchmaking versions of alliance raids and those 1-12 steps 8-man arenas in every expansion like Eden.
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>tfw i'll never be a sprout again
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>>739166734
It was building up to something halfway good, then took the least interesting approach to end on such a boring note. The president should have been 1000% comedically evil, and the brute bomber should have returned without explanation to steal the last hit and challenge you to a final rematch.
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>>739167096
I'm somewhere between neutral and good most likely, doesn't change the fact that I'm correct
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>>739166005
>Giving her tits and hips instead of the fridge body she actually has
What a cope.
I actually don't mind Wuk after switching off of the English dub due to the loony troon and the awful quality of the VA in DT in general; the issue with the writing is entirely Hiroi. Just hand her to a competent writer and she could be a fun character.
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>>739167259
Alliance Raids: Dissapointingly easy
Extremes: Pretty good, no snoozefests like Zodiark or Rubicante
Advanced: Decent, easy to prog, easy to carry, decent rewards to farm
Quantum: lol
Chaotic: lol
Forked tower: LOL
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>>739167271
>tfw I'll never be a spout again
>t.
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>>739167364
>>739167259
you don't understand how casual the casuals actually are
in my friend group they literally never did raids, any of them, ever.
even dungeons they didn't want to do, if you had a chance of failing then basically they didn't want to do it
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>>739166005
Honestly and genuinely, a supporting role would suit her well, she might actually be a welcome appearance for an impulsive one-off act.
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>>739166441
>>739166521
>>739166601

The raid content was already causing serious chafing during endwalker. Though the job changes from ShB to EW didn't seem to be big, they were still hugely impactful. In ShB we had
>90s and 180s based jobs (WAR, DRG)
>Burst window agnostic jobs (PLD, SMN, BLM)
>15 second cd on combo buttons and burst window tied to your ability to ABC (to DRK:s chargrin), only one stack of true north, significantly less tank self heal

The changes in EW kinda made combat flow stagnate significantly. With no variation in buff windows, you weren't rewarded for playing into your comp, there were less decision points since you can't really drop combo, positionals matters a lot less and tanks need less healing. Furthermore the final raid tier was absolute ass, though in retrospective the whole raid series introduced really bad designs (it just took us some time to catch on). Also the extremes sucked.
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>>739167470
I started in 2.2, and I remember being far too intimidated to even try second or final coils because of the perceived difficulty. Even when Alexander came out, I had to hype myself up for a week before stepping into a1n, and only because they made the normal/savage distinction.
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>>739151834
what do you mean,it had the most kino ending.

https://x.com/FugaFF14_Strife/status/1336513029568008194
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>>739167497
Abyssos being overtuned into TOP being the most difficult ultimate killed a lot of people's interest in anabaseios, especially when it was announced it wouldn't get an ultimate.

People burnt out
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>>739151062
No but I'd go for an 'Evercool' if they have that, or maybe 'Evermild'
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>>739152397
did they ever reveal who this niggas mom is
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>>739167319
I will concede they fucked up with Lindwurm not being telegraphed at all until the very last raid where they quickly made up some bullshit about the president being around for a long time, but phase 2 being the president setting up a script that you then operate around for idyllic dream was a really cool idea that only works if the fight is the director. Although I was rooting for Brute Bomber rematch, but I was grinning when he showed up anyways
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>>739167612
Yes.
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>>739151062
>>739151160
Ryne is a miracle of the universe, I will never forgive square for giving us a qt redhead only to take her away form us.
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>>739167612
some dumb whore who thought a war mongering family murderer would be a good husband
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>>739151062
No, i only want Lalafell to come with me, especially Nanamo.
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>>739167571
People talk a lot of shit about Gordias but P8S and TOP back to back with that horrid job balancing was basically the same experience. The only difference was that you could gear your way to clear P8S on any job due to the new coffer system long since HW, you weren't cucked out completely if you didn't see a gear piece you were missing.
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>>739153732
Bangaa, they're already a canonical race in the game.
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>>739167612
Some bitch named Teeshal Ja. She was obsessed with Zoraal for some reason, agreed to be part of his science experiment shit if he did her a favor, which was apparently cum in a cup or something because she came back to him some time later pregnant and he was not happy about that. Gulool has pretty fucked up origins. Absolutely worthless sociopath father, and not ensouled whore mother who used her sons conception as a means to try and force his bum dad into a shotgun marriage. Poor kid.
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>>739167721
Should have been them or playable Mamool instead of stinky Hroth.
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>>739167923
but stinky hroths are good for you...
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Fem hroths are so fucking uncanny
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>>739167173
Remember when they brigaded threads for 4 days talking about how over it is for the chud bald streamer nazi?(he supported BLM and dislikes trump). He's still streaming and posting like nothing happened.
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>>739167563
I'm well aware of the homage and I don't think that particular scene is egregious beyond it continuing the dumb Nomura-isms. Since you prompted the rant
>we are introduced to an Ascian that explicitly has no interest in the Rejoinings and doesn't want to work with the Unsundered because he was betrayed by them
>this happens when we are dealing with a lot of stuff in the MSQ about sympathy for the Ancients and trying to understand them
>lmao he's kind of a pushy creep though just kill him without asking any questions or whatever :^)
>also there's a potentially compelling point where we can have one of the Ascians that helped doom the First be the means by which Eden can repair the word
>lmao nope he doesn't do anything to help
>Gaia is an Ascian reborn in a new body and she is regaining her Ascian memories
>lmao we don't really do anything with that and never delve into what that means or how it impacts somebody to awaken to so many past lives
>Loghrif and Mitron are fated lovers that have met and been together countless times over thousands of years because their souls are bound from the time of the Ancients
>lmao coffee biscuits though
>the true Oracle of Darkness and The Extreme only shows up in Savage so it's not even actually real
>they didn't even fucking use Maybe I'm A Lion for Fatebreaker what the fuck happened
It poses some of the most potentially interesting shit in the entire game, all things that are really cool and could be amazing for worldbuilding (and logically should be SUPER IMPORTANT at that point in the story and demand the WoL ask some questions). But it all gets squandered, does nothing interesting, and basically devolves into a very "beat up the bad guy" story with some nice cinematography, I guess.
It's a very Nomura story where the only things that matter are friendships, the memories you make, your autistic fixation on a snack food as a symbol of friendship, and so much friendship that people think its actually homoerotic.
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>>739167976
uncanny how hard they make me
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>>739167678
Waow just like a real woman, she was retarded
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>>739160947
>ARE YOU READY?
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>>739167869
>Absolutely worthless sociopath father, and not ensouled whore mother who used her sons conception as a means to try and force his bum dad into a shotgun marriage.
the MSQ was such missed potential
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>all raid buffs being removed
>dance partner likely being removed
>devilment also likely removed
what does this job even do anymore
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>>739167553
This was literally me until Heavensward, even down to the join date, are you me from another timeline?
I tried and cleared the Savage tiers with echo in ARR but I never did do Phoenix or Bahamut on content because I was scared
I tried Gordias, but only did the first 2 fights and took a super long break
I think I only truly could call myself a raider starting in the Creator tier honestly
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>>739168210
Stripper at parties
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>>739168210
Be the e-whore job
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>>739168210
They can still have dance partner, just providing more utility based buffs (reduced damage taken, move speed, etc.) instead of straight damage. That's mostly how it works in pvp. And presumably it'll still be the most mobile of the phys range, have good cleavge/aoe with its dances.

If they play their cards right every job should be playable and relatively close in balance, so people can actually choose what job they enjoy playing now instead of what's meta
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>>739168210
They literally said some jobs would retain buffs. DP is harmless, its a persistent flat buff towards one character, it's not going away. Tech getting removed opens it up to be a real support job more in line with the other appearances in the series.
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>>739168210
>dance partner likely being removed
No reason for them to remove it, the problem with buffs were the burst windows. Dance Partner is a permanent buff
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>>739168398
How will other phys range compete with buffing the best melee job?
>They'll actually do damage
its funny to me that you think that.
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>>739168210
>DPS has to actually DPS now instead of making everyone else do their job
oh no lol
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List of things incompatible with the 2 minute meta:
>dot gameplay
>proc gameplay
>any cooldown timer that doesn't align naturally
>haste buffs
>sks & sps builds
>cooldown reduction skills
>rotational RNG
>having to gradually build up and sustain something to achieve your peak dps (greased lightning)
>BLM having to stand still in Leylines
>RDM melee combo actually being in melee range
>damaging gap closers
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>>739151062
>>739151160
>>739160709
>>739151834
>>739152367
>>739152264
>>739157158
>>739158637
>>739160208
>>739160505
sex and marriage with younger women
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>>739168709
And those will never return now that the two minute design is gone, funny enough.
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>>739166901
Those stupid duck lips ruin the pic
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>Ninja Evolved
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>>739168709
you forgot
fun
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>>739168398
>>739168524
Dance Partner will just be the BRD abilities but on the dancer and their partner, you'll just swap to someone you want to give a sprint buff, shield, heal, etc.
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>>739168709
>>dot gameplay
Never coming back because of coding and the engine
>>proc gameplay
We have that, but they removed it from all jobs but ranged for damage balancing
>>any cooldown timer that doesn't align naturally
We had that in before ShB shadowbabby
>>haste buffs
Had that in the past, may come back
>>sks & sps builds
You can do that now
>>cooldown reduction skills
We had that before, it's not coming back
>>739168709
>>rotational RNG
That's just procs, other than that they removed that from DRG positionals starting in SB because it was unfair to them
>>having to gradually build up and sustain something to achieve your peak dps (greased lightning)
We had that with and without 2m buffs
>>BLM having to stand still in Leylines
????
>>RDM melee combo actually being in melee range
It was that way for years until recently
That's coming back, the change is a bandaid fix until EC
>>damaging gap closers
Never coming back, too hard for retarded players
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>>739168803
Thats just Gaia's normal semen slurpers
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>>739168813
It will work like PVP NIN where kasatsu procs the ninjutsu and you can't use two in a row. Goodbye forever TCJ, but it's not like its a big loss since they removed the soul back in SHB.
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>>739168709
>is a dot
>cooldown is neither 60 or 120s
>somehow survived all of endwalker and dawntrail
>ruins frontlines
amazing
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>>739168853
>>any cooldown timer that doesn't align naturally
>We had that in before ShB shadowbabby
We haven't had it for 2 expansions. I hope to see it return.

>>sks & sps builds
>You can do that now
Only for a couple of jobs and only at very specific breakpoints so your GCDs still align with raidbuffs. I'd love to just slap 40 SpS materia on my gear and go fast. I played max SpS SMN in UCOB a couple of years ago and it was actually really fun.

>>BLM having to stand still in Leylines
>????
They gave BLM that skill to move their lines (retrace I think) because BLM HAS to use leylines at the same time as everyone's buffs and sometimes there's a mechanic that requires movement. Absent raidbuffs, the BLM could just hold their charge of leylines and plant when it's safe to do so, which is much better for the turret mage identity.
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Everyone talks about removing the 2 minute meta with evolved jobs is going to "ruin the game" because "omg everything is gonna be so easy and braindead xD!!!"

But I'm calling it now this evolved job system is going to filter a LOT of gigashitters.
The current 2 minute meta where 90% of burst windows are during TBs or raidwides or literally nothing, and these dipshits still can't press their buttons correctly in content like fucking alliance raids.

Single buttons combos and simpler rotations will NOT save people that already struggle to maintain even 80% uptime. If anything the gap between good players and bad players will only go up because the impact of each individual GCD will be higher in EC.
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>>739169097
The modal system of buttons giving two different actions based on target or range is going to fuck a LOT of people over for a while.
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>>739169097
If they've really removed auto-attacks as it seemed from the dev panel then that's going to push the skill gap even further.
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>>739169160
>removing autos
>MNKs indirectly nerfed for the billionth time
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>>739168886
It's easy to point out retarded and soulless skill gutting due to the 2 minute meta and the DoT holocaust, but it's honestly far more interesting and baffling to look at what actually survived
>Salted Earth
>Out of the handful of jobs that have any DoT whatsoever, BLM is somehow one of them
>Scathe still exists despite having no known use case for the entirety of its existence
>Ruin II somehow outlasting every other Scholar damage skill aside from Energy Drain
>Hagakure, a button that turns a fun resource into an unfun resource
>Cover still exists when they make it a point to remove all niche skill expression buttons elsewhere
>Oblation persists even though it's the worst instance of senseless button bloat in the game
The list goes on.
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>>739169097
Removing the 2m won't ruin the game, it will improve it
What's undeniable based on pattern recognition, however, is that jobs will only get simpler
>The current 2 minute meta where 90% of burst windows are during TBs or raidwides or literally nothing
This is simply untrue
>Single buttons combos and simpler rotations will NOT save people that already struggle to maintain even 80% uptime.
Nothing the devs do will make these players better, they are born shitters
Evolved will be easily adapted to and possibly even beloved by raidfags
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>>739168709
You can have "fun" things like this, but don't expect it to be viable when it comes to savage tier and up raiding. Because thats where fun ends and the tism begins
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>>739169160
>If they've really removed auto-attacks
This is a huge mistake and completely disincentivizes truly maximizing uptime
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>>739169175
We'll get
>positionals on every main GCD
>greased lightning
>a dropkick move you can only use while jumping
Just gotta believe, bro
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>>739169248
You can't have fun things like this because raidtroons will complain about it and the devs will "remove friction"
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>>739169182
Remember that they tried to remove energy drain and then literally had to patch it back in because they had no fucking idea how scholar worked
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why don't they just add the 1 button mode that wow has?
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>>739168054
It just made me hate them all the more. I'm not even a Xeno fan but discordgayops are incredibly gay.
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>>739169097
Not only that, but in the dev panel they talked about how they currently have to design fights around 2-minutes. And with this restriction gone they no longer have to. So unless they're just lying, we can expect to have lots of times during encounters where players will be expected to keep uptime during higher intensity mechanics.

The way I look at it is, with the current rotation (which will be reborn mode):
>during 2-minutes the difficulty of the rotation execution goes as high as a 7-8/10 depending on the job
>outside of 2-minutes the difficulty of the rotation is a universal 1-2/10
After the evolved mode I envision it as something like:
>the rotation execution difficulty never goes above a 5-6/10 on any job at any point in the rotation
>but it will always be consistently around a 3-5/10 on difficulty at any given time in the rotation
So its overall still a level of skill involvement in optimizing and performing the rotation on the fly during mechanics.
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>>739169342
Because it's not as marketable as Evolved mode
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>>739169282
>You can't have fun things like this because raidtroons will complain
Viper had its applied damage buff removed due to casual Japanese players complaining on the forum
I constantly hear casuals on /v/ ask for auto combo and removed positionals too
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>>739166528
why are you lying? the memes about fucking native people
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>>739169339
>because they had no fucking idea how scholar worked
If we ever meet the guy responsible for job changes prior to Mr. Prime, his nickname should be Mr. I-have-no-fucking-idea-how-Scholar-worked, it's the one consistent thread weaving itself through every expansion since HW.
PVP at least suggests that Mr. Prime does actually have an idea, so I'm cautiously optimistic for evolved SCH.
Shadowflare will return in 2027, trust the plan.
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>>739169487
That was like two samefags.
Three at best.
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>Largest FFXIV stream on twitch with 2k viewers is a re-run channel.
L o L. Arthurs, Xeno and Brappy seething.
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The reason Kaiten was removed was due to the massive variance in SAM performance via the followup attack being a crit vs non-crit. They literally said this in the live letter when introducing the change
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>>739166528
People were blindly excited for Dawntrail just as much as they are for Evercold
Let's see if we get to give out "fell for it again award"s
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>>739169464
>Viper had its applied damage buff removed
What was the reason for having this in the first place?
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>>739166528
I was hyped for Dawntrail much more than I am for Evercold, despite the fact that they've actually given me more reasons to be hyped this time around. They need to earn back my trust.
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>>739160505
there's no need to fuck with their proportions
they're sexy enough
>>739161685
The script writers have issues giving us a challenge. I think we're going to have to fight ourselves. With Halmurut teasing a good fight, it's obvious the big bad of EC will probably be one of our reflections, but if they ever do a true last boss to end the game, hopping back to Elpis to fight our unsundered form could be the strongest enemy in lore that's not haxx like Alexander or Omega where we overcome them in unconventional ways.
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Custom delivery clients, or NIGGERS as I like to call them, aren't giving bonuses again
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>>739169249
Auto range is longer than GCD range, though.
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>>739169656
>People were blindly excited for Dawntrail just as much as they are for Evercold
That's not entirely true.
People have been weary of Wuk Lamat since 6.55.
And yes, they started building up DT only very late, which was an obvious mistake.
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>>739152959
>way too much cramped text
>most important information is spread out and sidelined for a bunch of logos
Imagine paying for space to put up such a shit ad.
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>>739169413
XIV devs, famous for never lying.
>>739169649
Crit variance causes more damage than 2 minute meta desu, but auto-crit is NOT the answer unless it helps fulfill a loop like old BRD procs or MNK with chakra gen.
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>>739169249
it doesnt since you still have to go in melee to do your melee attacks
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>>739151062
>>739151160
Why not? Taking my lesbian daughter and her girlfriend on adventures sounds fun.
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>>739169965
They've built up every expansion late after HW, but you had two fan fest before Wuk was fully revealed and even in JP fan fest people were mega hype.
>Beast Master (LOL)
>ALL NEW BATTLE CONTENT (Chaotic, Quantum)
>BLU (LOL)
>MULTIPLE CRITERION (LOL)
Wuk in 6.56 wasn't bad first impressions outside of the NA VA, but she's a completely different character in DT.
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>>739169656
>People were blindly excited for Dawntrail just as much as they are for Evercold
There's nothing blind about the excitement for Evercold. What they announced are already the biggest systemic changes the game has seen since 2.0, after people have been saying the game needed such changes for at least 6 years.
Yes, obviously, they can still fuck all of this up, but the game is in such an abysmal state that it can only get better. It's almost not an exaggeration to say that any change is a good change with the game in its current state.
DT excitement was legitimately blind and pure copium because aside from some vague promise of more dynamic fight design (which they arguably even delivered on), it was clear that they wouldn't be doing shit to address the festering systemic rot from within.
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>>739170203
>Wuk in 6.56 wasn't bad first impressions
wrong.
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>>739170230
They straight up said that DT would be focused on improving fights and that 8.0 would be about improving jobs right before release.
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It's been ages, I remember Gaia and ryne making the world regular again but can't remember the way the eden stuff finishes, qrd? Something with thancred iirc
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So... I haven't played since 6.1
How do you get back to the game? Remember all the stuff? Used to play Warrior, Gunbreaker and Dragoon.
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>>739170471
Had most jobs at lv80 back then because literally nothing else to do because of lockdowns. But I'd realistically just play tanks now.
The problem about tanks is everybody expects you to master every dungeon and content and there's no way a retard who didn't play for years will get all that quickly.
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Justice for Minfilia
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>carry a phoenix down
>save another dungeon
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>>739170505
Every dungeon is the same really. Just run, aggro a lot of mobs, press your aoe buttons and some mitigation.
Trials and raids are much more varied but people won't really resent you for fucking up in those.

>>739170471
Pick a job and rebuild your hotbar from scratch. Hit a striking dummy to get used to it. See if you can buy better gear with tomestones or from the marketboard for cheap. Queue some older content for practice. Do your MSQ.
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>>739153732
I just want them to stop adding new non playable races who I would love to play as with every expansion.
>HW - Vanu Vanu
>StB - Lupin
>ShB - Nu Mou
>EW - Loporrit and Matanga (Arkasodara)
DT mostly rehashed old ones, so I guess it's the first to do it, but EC is adding the fucking dwarf coded cats.
This shit is torture.
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>>739170617
>spend 8 seconds rezzing a guy in occult crecent CE
>he immediately dies to the next mechanic
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>>739154194
Would drop Hroth in an instant.
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>>739169730
>They need to earn back my trust.
This is a salesman.
Not your ex-wife.
If you got hyped in the first place, it's on you.
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>>739170621
Nice. Thanks.
At least tank classes share a gear pool except for the weapon.
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we live in an allied society
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>>739170617
Why do they have massive cooldowns? it's not like you can spam them they have long cast times.
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any news on new jobs or just speculation so far?
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>>739171667
pure speculation
we'll get one in late July, Berlin fanfest
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>>739171924
my keyholders
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>>739171924
My wife in the middle.
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>>739172072
I'm sure you're glad your wife satisfies so many people
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>>739170368
Eden was a Sin Eater but was so fuckhuge and powerful because it was fueled by an Ascian soul. Gaia is also an Ascian who in her prior life was the lover of the Ascian that fused with Eden. And because the game needs to maintain a status quo, the rest of the world isn't restored it's just in the process of being restored by your actions which will take an indeterminate amount of time.
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>>739168853

>damaging gap closers

I'm sorry but you can't seriously argue that those have any skill expression. Here's what damage on gap closers do
>it doesn't fucking matter, dump them in the burst window or hold to gap close is the same dps, just don't overcap

Yes. It literally doesn't matter. As long as you don't overcap you can't misuse them as a dps toolm



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