>PROCEED
to rape?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEXiaOHeYEU
>>739656147Did you know you can "proceed" through the first Annoying Mouse Room, even if you're not on Snowgrave?Very interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjvT33B_c0
deltatroon
what is /v/'s take on penumbra?will we get it in deltarune?was it ever intended for deltarune?
Andrew Cunningham status?
>>739656621Raped and Gaped Nash style
>>739656621why are the andy leyley symbols here
>>739656621The method of shitting up the thread with this will last even less time than when people pretend to care about Spanish people
>NoellePerky, beautiful pale pink nipples. A to B cup>CarolFine-aged, chocolate nipples. B cup>TorielGorgeous, delicate, motherly breasts, dusty rosé nipples. G cup>DessPerky, delicious, chestnut colored nipples. B cup
>>739656374that's the spirit!
>>739656147MUSKY teenage DOE PUSSY absolutely REEKING of ESTRUS
>>739656147What’s Susie’s endgame?
>>739656602>what is /v/'s take on penumbra?It's coolThis is my favorite version, the whale sounds and the guitar at 1:45 fucks hardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Bts33mYts>will we get it in deltarune?Not anymore>was it ever intended for deltarune?Absolutely. Aside from the extensive thematic connections between the song and the game, I can't imagine any other reason why Toby hid "Doctor" in Hopes & Dreams
>>739657123frensalso avoiding whatever the fuck the final tragedy mystery box is
>>739657184does this version feature any homestuck leitmotifs besides doctor?
Look at this fat FAGGOT
>>739655302I completely get why you believe that, but I also felt safe about the direction of the story like that before.We have no clue what sort of curve ball we will get this time. Going back to that style one last time would be one of the most shocking things possible right now.
prosneed
>>739656147I've never engaged with Deltarune or Undertale that much. Story seemed to preachy and insisted upon its moral lessons
GUYS GUYSwhat did this mean???????
>>739656602we will get "penumbra phantasm" with no buzinaki motifs trusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLkqDfRKao
>>739657604It's not preachy at all. Many people find it to be because they personally disagree with the morals it communicates, but preachy is a tone.
>>739657408What do you expect a kid who can eat a whole pie to look like?
>>739657764Kris is going to explode into a fucking fatass at 20 years old. The sweet tooth is your worst enemy.
>>739658413With any luck, Kris will become your average junkorexic.
Finally... quiet... peace...
>>739659584I thought this was inflated susie for a minute
I want people to stop mentioning Homofag on my Deltachad threads.Irrelevant """""franchise""""", irrelevant fanbase.
Don't forgetI'm coming in the doe
>>739656621Diehard Dessknight fag, scheduled for anal obliteration when Chapter 5 comes out
Noelleknighers will be vindicated in a month
i'm still trying to understand what toby meant by this
>>739659864>A STUNNING REPLICA OF YOUR FAVORITE FLUFFY>characterthink this is just an oversight or did toby laugh at it and allow it?
>>739659864we'll get more context later for the dicier bits, so we can look back and go "ohhhh THIS is what he meant".>Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melts the girl's icy heartand I'm supposed to believe Suselle is a fakeout?
>>739659973despite being associated with ice, noelle is not someone i would call icyif anything this points to noelle not being the girl
>>739656147The Weird Route doesn't follow the prophecy. The choices aren't getting mixed up with Noelle's. The game script which is the prophecy just literally doesn't know what to do at this point. You're taking your freedom, no matter the cost. So proceed.
>>739660046the weird route won't change the prophecy because it's not weird enough.So what if you were to go weirder? You know what'd be REALLY weird, fighting all the ShadowCrystal bosses, starting the Weird Route, CANCELLING the Weird Route, and using these difficult to acquire items to craft a sword that is completely useless stats-wise. Think about it.
>>739659864>>739659973>Wood can be used to stoke the fire which melts the girl's icy heart.>But, it's said that the greatest fuel of all is friendship.
Did we all agree on Rudy knight yet?
>>739660161Sorry, once you realize Noelle is the Knight, there's no going back.
>>739660098Can't wait until ""aborted Snowgrave"" fags get their saves invalidated when Noelle joins that party again in Chapter 5 and you can literally just unequip the ring from her without doing all of that cockamamie shit
>>739660161It's actually Asriel knight, thanks
>>739656621Deltarune Themes 101 for theory neophytes but otherwise just background filler.
>>739660098>craft a sword that is completely useless stats-wise.have we all just decided to collectively forget that the twisted sword has "trance down"?
>>739660430This.It's fucking hilarious how these niggers cry about muh media illiteracy but can't engage with any story beyond clapping their hands and feet whenever the characters are le heccin relatable
>>739660259you got it backwards. I want to see what specifically happens if you try to equip it in chapter 5. Probably a waste of time but I need to know what her reaction is
>>739660476
>>739660609your mother
I understand storytellingI understand Noelle being the Knight as a concept
>>739659843>>739660242>>739660680I grow tired of the meme
you guys think this means anything or am i becoming too schizo
Kris never had the makings of a Roaring Knight
>>739660739all me btw
>>739660753Probably just generic commentary and Ms. Mizzle foreshadowing...Probably
Hey, so, I haven't played Deltarune since Chapter 2 and I'd kind of lost interest, but remind me again, when did Chapter 4(?) come out again? Hasn't it been like 2 years already?
>>739660817yes, it's just you
>>739660870It's gonna be 1 year since then June 5th
>>739656147Nobody can beat the PROCEED Man
>>739660915Ah. Not too bad, yeah? Crazy how this will span a decade by the time it's done tho. I remember the first DR demo coming out not long after UT, maybe 2 or 3 years at most
>>739660992>Crazy how this will span a decade by the time it's doneDon't even say it
>>739660870>>739660992Deltarune is truly WAITING
>>739661058Not DELTARUNE is WAITINGit's more like DELTARUNE IS waiting
>>739661039you know it to be true. 8 fuckin' years and we're waiting on number 5 out of 7 total. And that crazy bastard once thought he could make the entire game by himself and Temmie.
What the fuck is Gaster going to do?
>>739661039>>739661058>>739661079>8 yearsMr. Sneed... I don't Feed so good...
>>739661214Each passing day... My sneeds grow older... my feeds more tired. If I only we still had Saint George, patron of fent
How strong will Noelle get by the end?
>>739661187mostly observeI think Deltarune is an emotionally fulfilling thing for him as much as he acts as the detached and calculating scientist. He's long gone and beyond saving, but maybe, just maybe we can warm his skeletal heart at the end of it all.
>>739661291Strong enough to fight an overdosing Saibaman... maybe
>>739661214>>739661270surely chuq will save us
>>739661291stronger than you can possibly imagine
>>739661353Chuq fuqed us, he way underestimated his project scope and didn't hire enough people for the job
I like this creature
>George Floyd is transported to Castle Townwhat happens next?
>>739661558he takes a breath of fresh air
>>739661558mr society trips and lands on his neck
>>739661558Did you just wake up from a coma or have you just not mentally gotten past 2020
It's up.https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1268886107082633227
Yeah three georgie mentions in a row, what is going on with bro?
>>739661770>2020Anon what year do you think we're in right now?
>>739656147Thank you Toby for adding lesbian rape to the game.
>>739661770yoooo Temmie posted too!https://x.com/tuyoki/status/1268948039462457344
>>739661770>>739661848>Toby Fox donated 5 banana mayo sandwiches to the George Floyd fundwoah...
>>739661779Looks like a sharty raid
>>739661779It's another "/pol/tard has a melty from the cognitive dissonance of liking the woke gay furry game" episode
1AK (after kirk)
would you all please rise for the anthem
God I wish I lived in the Tobias Fox world.Id actually be a better person and improve myself if cute deer girls roamed the streets.
>>739662017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=himMuv2g0Co
>>739662116I would fucking rape them and then suck the cum back into my dick so I can rape them again and again and again and again
I checked /utg/ and believe it or not, it's still worse
>>739662219We're discussing if George Floyd would still be able to make his world-famous banana mayo sandwiches in Castle Town and /utg/ is still somehow worse?
>we're
>>739662116>Ywn have a teen romance story of you (the human male) and a cute monster girl across the classroom
>>739662219Qrd on the horrors?
Noelle is very aunt like.
>>739662516Based on what information?
>>739662516Not true I don't wanna rape any aunties
>>739662549My uncle.
>>739662431A significant portion of the thread was "girls" talking about their periods and failing to practice personal hygiene in that areaThen someone, encouraged by 10+ replies, started talking about making shit art as in literally, with their own shit and I checked out
>>739662583What the fuck is wrong with them
>>739660101>the vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousyuh oh
>>739662516>>739662549
>>739661443jannies are coward, emotional, buck broken jeets
>>739656147>WAIT
>>739661723impotent seethe
berdly is the batman of deltarune when you think about it
>>739664302he's not Batmanhe's Birdman
>>739661938>xhe doesn't knowit's better that way
>>739659584>Ralsei sleeps with a plushie of himselfWhat a narcissist. He needs to be knocked down a peg y'know, by my penis
>>739661187HE WILL CREATE A NEW FUTUREFRAUD SQUAD GO
>>739664302He's better, he's a GAMER like you and me.>says this after getting his arm blown off
Imminent lesbian rape.
I just had a scary thought. I was checking on Toby's Twitter and remembered that he's involved in the new toy story movie. Well that movie is coming out next month, so what if he's planning on having the release date revealed in the movie?
>>739664906I can't believe the release date was inside my friend all along.
>>739664283More of a question but the moments past
>>739664906>toy story 5 is just an extended ch5 trailernani
>>739659584
>>739656147Prosneed your dick to doessy Krisp
>>739666764krissy lacks penits to prosneed with
>>739666905There's no way Toriel let him cut his dick off just because he's in his they/them larp phase
>>739657764Oh no, I'm not complaining. Voluptuous shotas bring me joy in this barren hellscape.
>>739666905She can use her fingers to proceed.
>>739656602>penumbrawtf is penumbra?
>>739662583Aaah womenMen think they are unhinged and horny until they meet an actually crazy lady
>>739657676That you should support your local spoders
Dess raped Kris
No thanks. I prefer kris being mildy annoyed at (you) than being terrified of the evil you're capable of.
>>739656147>>>/vg/>>>/trash/
>>739664364I actually hope we can take berdly to the festival if we chose him as the option in chapter 3 and 4. Especially if it means he'll be able to go to castle townI'd love for him and queen to interact again
>>739670403She did things, so many things they'll never know.Lovely things she liked so much.
>>739659864>your favoriteYou don't speak for me, tony trickster, you don't approve of my favorite getting merch.
>>739670403Not rape if he enjoyed it.
>>739670403The little girl enjoyed it.
>>739659864I wouldn't worry about it. Merch is pretty low on the evidence totem pole
>>739664646thanks doc
>>739670837>>739671064
>>739656147>kris refuses to fuck thiswhy is he gay?
>>739667025toriel's stoopid please understand
>>739672881FUCK MY KNEES
>>739657676I hope you all got the GoldWidow.
>>739672421note how they never say "go to /vg/" in any of the several 24/7 gachaslop threads
>>739673407He should keep doing it to the yellowfag threads since those are generals and they deserve nothing good. They need to fucking stay there.
Fuck you toby fox for revealing 3&4's release in the fucking Switch 2 direct now I actually have the delusional expectation you're going to announce during one or SGF. >>739661039I was 17 when UT came out, 20 when Ch1 released, and the fact that I'm going to be fucking THIRTY when the game's all said and done is giving me immense psychic pain.
>>739674124Well anon, you're in luck, I have proof that nothing Deltarune related will be shown on SGF, the proof is in this image. If that's not good enough for you then you can also remember that ad spots for SGF cost +100.000$, and Toby's not gonna spend that for a trailer that's basically gonna be the dog coming on screen and saying "Chapter 5 out on X date", since he doesn't want to spoil anything else for the chapter.
>>739671738Little girls only enjoy it because they do the raping.
>>739673407Because the meta against gacha is just to spout the normalfag meme opinions against it over and over until anyone who feels a desire to correct you shuts up.
>>739660098Toby doesn't care about this shit, aborting the route will lead to nowhere and people need to accept this already.
>>739660098It's gonna be very funny when the thorn ring is just an item you can normally acquire in Chapter 5 regardless of the route you're in.
>>739671064spamming is /v/ culture troony
>>739665523where is Kris's boner
>>739665523>ralsei sleeps with his ass out
>>739662583>"girls"unfortunately /utg/ is filled will actual women i still remember that one you pleasured herself with a fucking gba so you can't even blame it on the troons. bitches be crazy
>>739662516>>739662549based on this
>>739674447I thought if Jeoff liked your game or some shit he could waive the fee but that's probably just some retarded rumor. Still, there's a nonzero chance it'll be in the next Direct given the total radio silence and the rough timeline of testing matching up with Ch4.>>739675582I think there will be some differences but yeah, aborted weird route won't lead to some secret Third Thing ending. The ThornRing will end up in our inventory by the time we get the PureCrystal in Ch5 or 6 in the weird route (my pet theory is that Noelle will be Used Up and disappear/die, leaving behind the ThornRing), and I'm fairly sure there will be some way of locking you out of crafting it on aborted weird route if the Twisted Sword ends up being that significant in the last legs of the game.
>>739676195>spoilershit was my 'nam
>>739662583Women, not even once.
>>739656621Reddit fedora atheist.
>>739675830Imagine going through the whole weird route rigmarole feeling like some hot shit master manipulator, just for Noelle to equip it of her own volition on the normal route in ch5 or 6 because Rudy died or whatever.
>>739672881its the crippling guilt. Also Noelle will kill them if she ever finds out the truth
>>739656147>PROSNEED
Reminder that getting the double true extra secret meme ending will require you to do esoteric save manipulation and if you don't have at least one open slot to shuffle the order around you're fucked
>>739656374Thank you Toby for giving us a good song to WAIT to. I love WAITing.
>>739676242I think this means aunt is very noelle like actually
>>739676748Toby DEBUNKED this already.
>>739676748>I AM MAN OF THE PEOPLE KRIS
>>739656602It probably was based on the fever dream but never for Deltarune itself, it's just a meme song at this point that got deconfirmed several times.
>>739659864>Hero that CAN wield an axe>Hero that CAN use a scarfToby...........
>>739676805Not him but proof? That fact that there's only 3 possible save files is 100% going to serve some sort of meta purpose
>>739676664Honestly it would make sense for the thorn ring to be able to be acquired and equipped in the normal route in one of the later chapters, it would be another one of the things that might push the player into doing the weird route. Looking at it from the perspective of someone playing blindly, you get the thorn ring in the normal route in either Chapter 5 or 6, you realize the potential power Noelle holds, and you wonder what would happen if there was a way to somehow get this item earlier in the game.
>>739676195God, I am so glad I left that hellhole. Using it to farm cool art of the characters was not worth the depravity I had to witness
>>739676953Also the slot number tracking that's unused except for one piece of flavor text is maybe the most conspicuous possible thing to put in the game
>>739676953
>>739676969Aborted snowgrave is still technically a normal route, so you can just have the ring the whole time without needing to commit to all that
>>739676195for me what sticks in the mind is the one that filmed herself schlicking off while ranting about spamton or something for minutes on end
>>739677086Anon, if you'll look closely, you might notice what that doesn't say
>>739677086I call turbo bullshit on this, if it was just meant to be a simple file select function nothing could stop him from just making the your typical 100+ save slots
>>739677096I'm specifically talking about the perspective of someone who has absolutely no clue about the snowgrave, someone who doesn't know you can actually freeze a bunch of darkners on purpose to make Spamton sell you the ring.
>>739662583>>739676195people meme about it but shit would have to go CATASTROPHICALLY wrong here for these threads to be even remotely as /utg/. I’m talking chapter 5 being absolutely vile going far past just Suselle winning
>>739677164It's not only a simple file select function since there are changes between savefiles, but it's also not a mechanic meant to get "the true ending" or whatever the fuck, it's basically an easter egg, might be mentioned by Gaster even, but there's absolutely no intention to make the players use multiple or all the savefiles to achieve some kind of special ending.
>>739659864>true strength lies hidden inside your friendsOh great, you gotta break open the other two for the secret
>has fire magic>doesn’t think to use it when a literal titan appears and threatens to kill everyone >only uses it to turn on some lightsThe fuck is his problem?
>>739676985Just use /v/ and your fellow anons that post art here, that's what I do.
>>739676953>Note: There are no plans to require the player to complete multiple different slots
>>739657408Damn she thick
>>739677267You're projecting a whole lot of shit onto what toby said, which is only that you won't be "required" to have multiple completed slotsIt says nothing about alternate content necessitating separate playthroughs, which we already haveIt says nothing about copying existing completion data to a different slot, which can already have an impactIt says nothing about added content on different slots as a continuation of an existing singular playthrough, or any other similar bullshitYou have no idea what you're talking about
>>739659864>the hero wields a sword>the hero that CAN wield an axe>the hero that CAN wield an scarfSusie and Ralsei are going to be able to equip different weapons aren’t they
>>739659843The Knight will show up in front of Noelle and they will argue AU bullshit.
>>739677192I don't know, getting access to the twisted sword and whatever shit that will lead to without any manipulation of the game or any secrets at all seems like it's going against the point
Noelle can’t be the knight because the knight never tried to rape Susie
>>739677545Alright nigger I understand having your dreams about your retarded special ending you get if you complete everything broken hurts, but you're acting like a complete bitch about it. If you wanna get technical with the word required then there really is nothing that is "required" of the player beyond forking over the money to get a copy of the game. Whatever, keep crying, you'll just be the next mikefag complaining about Toby betraying your trust and expectations when the new chapters release, it will be entertaining to watch.
>>739659864It's quirky flavor text to bait theorists and sword route references. What I’m more interested over all of this is that Mantle wasn't a single player game. I wish there was a way to play the version with Susie and Ralsei in it.
>>739677404He knows if he starts being too powerful we'll abuse that power. Ralsei seems to have knowledge of the Weird Route but is quick to correct himself https://youtu.be/FbR-eSwNqiI&t=144
>>739656621Not watching it.Only my theories matter.
>>739677545I have zero faith in Toby and his bum team being able to add any sort of file shenanigans without he whole code imploding.
>>739660753Probably just a joke, let's not go TOO schizo.
Does some retard really think you need all 3 save slots for the true ending? lmao
>>739678000It's leftover Undertale autism. I think the real reason for multiple saves is that it'd be a pain in the ass restarting a 20-hour game for each route
What if instead instead of being a pedo or whatever Dess was just uncomfortably obsessed with the idea of Kris fucking her sister
>>739660753>>739677854Height and power seem to be correlary in the deltarune universe, getting higher gets you closer to HEAVEN, and all the objects in darkworlds are LITERALLY smaller than the lightners, we have to shrink down just to be on equal footing as them- a titan is almost like a human who hasn't shrunk down, just a normal human unchanged by the dark world...The stronger you become. The bigger you will get. The more real and more human you can be...Lets reach our heads above the clouds, and look into heaven.
>>739678273>kris is evil because he’s a manletKINO
>>739678000checkedYeah. Toby caved and added saves in the ch4 overworld because the normie playtesters couldn't be bothered to go save in Castle Town, yet they somehow think 100% the game will be requirement you to get the true ending
>>739677745You have no meaningful defense for how the snowgrave route exists, you retarded pussy
>>739678273>>739678316he just like me fr
>>739670403canon btw
>>739678146Now explain why the save slot position is tracked and used to change things in the game
>>73966121411 years until it's finished at the very least.
>>739678218Why can't she be both?
>>739678000>Making up shit nobody said to justify pretending things that are in the game already aren't actually in the game
>>739678374Oh my fucking god you can't be serious, don't tell me you're one of those people who actually thinks doing the weird route will be necessary to get the ending.
>>739678000It's the same autism that made people think we would get the mantle by time traveling to Chapter 1, people want Toby to do some super secret meta thing when he won't.
>>739677714trvke
>>739672881Thankfully we are here to kindly set him on the right path
>>739661187Finish his Deltarune, that's his experiment he died to achieve.
>>739658413>kris hasn't packed on so much as one (1) pound of weight in the years inbetween chapter releasesgod toby is such a fucking hack
>>739678590>'the' ending>As if playing the game normally will just completely stop until you do some random other shit to finish it as part of one singular routeDo you actually have some sort of learning disability?The snowgrave route is a separate thing, you fucking troglodyte
>>739678590NTA but:In the normal route, you will witness the final tragedy. Then, Gaster introduces you to the weird route, and you take that route in order to try and subvert the final tragedy.This will succeed, you will be banished by noelle instead of susie being the one to banish noelle (THE GIRL MUST SLAY HER LOVE), but it wasn't worth it. No one's happy after what you've done to noelle.So you'll have to go around a third time.
There is only one ending. There's something more important than reaching the end.
>>739678374The snowgrave route was the original intended route by the prophecy, Kris did it of his own volition before we came along. A great reset accrued and the route was hidden in an attempt to get a better outcome.Both paths will lead to the same destination, it's that simple
>>739664646Potential men, assemble!
>>739678431funny
>>739678721Alright, I see what I'm dealing with. In a way I pity you, your schizophrenia is gonna make you have an absolute meltdown over this game in the future. At least, like I said, it will be entertaining to watch.
>>739678783This would be fun to think about, if it wasn't objectively wrong
>>739667025She just didn't have one in the first place *shocked gasp*
>>739678791The potential to change fate and create a new future.
>>739678857elaborate nigger
>>739678838Prove me wrong, faggotProve that snowgrave is not a separate route you can only do on a save file that is not doing the normal playthrough
>>739672881CHADcer... the one with Megalovania in his theme.
>>739678937Anon, you're hallucinating, please take your meds.
>>739674447Sebastian also deconfirmed that it was referring to Deltarune and explained it was just about games related to materia and that he doesn't know shit.
>>739676195Kids nowadays don't know fangirls can be even crazier than us, especially Undertale/Deltarune fangirls.
>>739678782>There's something more important than reaching the end.I swear 90% of people have here have some kind of MGS Patriot conditioning where whenever they read this line it actually gets replaced with something else. It's the single most ignored important bit of information Toby has given, I have no clue why it's almost never taken into account.
>>739676269>locking you out of crafting it on aborted weird route if the Twisted Sword ends up being that significant in the last legs of the game.It could be that Seam doesn't even give us the pure crystal in the normal route and thus we can only craft the sword in weird.
>>739678917Snowgrave stuff is the only time Ralsei is caught off guard by what's happening, and he's the one who knows everythingThe prophecy was happening, and would still happen if you don't well and truly break the game, but maintaining the snowgrave route at least for the moment is derailing it, in keeping with the themes of secrets and gamebreaking bugs that noelle is connected toThe only thing that's up in the air is exactly how far toby will require us to go to completely break off the path or if even that will ultimately end up being futile
>>739679030Prove it
>>739677404Ralsei will use it and cause the inferno in 5, he probably has to keep it hidden in his efforts to subvert the prophecy.
>>739678791Kill yourself, /dbz/spic
>>739662516>>739662549Someone should draw auntie Noelle.
>>739679030>take your medsGo the fuck away, anti-human schizo
>>739656147Dess taught him well
>>739679164The amount of optional and mutually exclusive content in this game means that whatever ending toby has in mind for the story as a whole is effectively irrelevant if you care more about the secondary plotlines
>>739678273>and all the objects in darkworlds are LITERALLY smaller than the lightners, we have to shrink down just to be on equal footing as themProof?
>>739678917>>739679267Prophecy is the game/story script, a literal interpretation of it. Snowgrave is creepy-pastaing your way outside of it. Simple as.
>the 3 different save slots have 2 different instances of text changing depending on which slot the save is made>twisted sword will only be obtainable on aborted snowgrave route>it has the trance down effect negating the thorn ring>thorn ring is only obtainable and equippable on non-aborted snowgrave routeit's so obvious there will be save file shenanigans that tricky tony is cooking where shit will be interactible between them and you'll need stuff from one on another and i'm amazed how everyone is still huffing massive copium that there won't be somehowwhy is that somehow the "nahhhh that's too crazy, toby would never do that" line for everyone?
>>739679395>kris rapes december's little sister as revenge for her raping him when he was a kidcinema
>>739679416playing cards are smaller than people. either we shrink down or they grow when a dark world is created. That's not entirely what's happening literally, but that's how it's meant to feel.
>>739679416Crossing the empty classroom takes much less time than crossing Card Kingdom on foot.Unless you're positing that every dark world room is full of Sans style treadmills (one for each lightner probably) that teleport away when you close fountains, I don't see how else that works.
>>739679456>why is that somehow the "nahhhh that's too crazy, toby would never do that" line for everyone?Might have something to do with this >>739677086
>>739679556toby literally always lies about shit like this though
>>739679456>>twisted sword will only be obtainable on aborted snowgrave routeYou'll have another chance to get the ring back, and the crystals are obtainable in both routes even though they didn't need to be>thorn ring is only obtainable and equippable on non-aborted snowgrave routeYou can get the ring and then abort afterAlso the trance down effect might be for Kris to resist (You), not Noelle
>>739679164It's because it's a typical "the journey matters more than the ending" and people really don't like that.
>>739679639>You can get the ring and then abort afteryeah but you can't put it oneven if you could somehow put it on noel later it wouldn't make any sense because that was only doable after slowly mindbreaking her in chapter 3
>>739679556"Require" is a funny wordBecause you're already required to have multiple save slots to experience both routes, which have exclusive contentIt's too early to say whether he just meant you won't need to do that to see credits and everything else is still on the table, but he definitely didn't mean there won't be any shenanigans at all, because there already are
>>739679527>>739679546I always saw it as warping space. It's bigger on the inside and all that space and time junk. Not shrinking and growing.
>>739679456You're making some assumptions that cannot be ascertained.>twisted sword will only be obtainable on aborted snowgrave route>thorn ring is only obtainable and equippable on non-aborted snowgrave routeYou don't know this, it could be obtainable later on, even if getting early is required to actually do the weird route.>it's so obvious there will be save file shenanigans that tricky tony is cooking where shit will be interactible between them and you'll need stuff from one on anotherPure speculation, no actual evidence.
>>739679630can you name 5 instances of toby straight up lying about something in the game? and i mean directly contradicting something he previously said, in a chapter after he said it
>>739679803yes
>>739679724Making the twisted sword requires giving up the ring regardless, equipping it won't matter and depending on how chapter 5 goes you might not even be getting that shit back from Noelle to be able to make it in snowgrave anyway
dear liblogs. if femkris is so based and 4chancore why haven't i seen any good greentexts about the bitch HMM?
>>739679456Because Toby deconfirmed it and it's too much work for him and the regular fan. You're only getting the crystals persisting between saves. That's it.
>>739679754>Because you're already required to have multiple save slots to experience both routes, which have exclusive contentNot really, you can just overwrite the save. Yeah you need multiple savefiles to have both present in your game, but if you just wanna play one route after the other it's as simple as overwriting the savefile.
The "only one ending" is the kill or be killed of Deltarune and both (you) and Susie are trying to prove it wrong your own way. We do it through the Weird Route and Susie will do her own special way in the Normal Route.
>>739679797Anon, if the room retains the same exterior dimensions and the Lightners take up a smaller relative portion of it as a dark world than they would as a light world, that is effectively them being smaller at that moment, no?
>>739679841prove it by naming them then
>>739679887If you want it so much, just write your own greentexts. But I remember there being one about periods a long time ago. They exist.
>>739679887Maybe you should request it more. Hopefully someone who's good at that will notice and write.
>>739679797It's warping space but the effect has similarities to shrinking in practice.
>>739679972With that as the basis, then copying a completed save to a different slot or restarting an earlier chapter over an existing save using later save data is even more acceptableThe only argument against this is you assuming the argument must actually be about doing everything on three separate continuous playthroughs taking up every slot, which nobody has ever said
>>739680017I always saw the Dark Fountain as making the room like a tardis where it's just bigger on the inside so nobody is growing or shrinking, there's just somehow more space inside. Like the dimensional boxes in Undertale.
>>739679985It's really crazy how Toby put that Undertale is a "kill or be killed" world in the FAQ meant to give customers information about Undertale, the product they purchased, only for him to completely do the opposite in the actual game. I wonder why he would lie directly to his audience.
>>739679985>>739680185Toby baits both one endingfags and multiple endingfags, he needs to put his foot down over this.
>>739680185Because it's funny to lie.
Don't race mix with monsters.thusbisnt me being racist this is me letting you know your children will come out abominations and be shunned by society.Love your monster wife but adopt human children if you have too
>>739679985Susie is going to try and hopecel her way through it and end up dying anywayIf you do snowgrave bullshit to break the story enough to save her, then the prophecy will adapt and noelle or someone will die in her placeNo matter the outcome, the one ending is "fuck you"
>>739680351They aren't abominations, stop being racist.
>>739679030Try to not post any underage porn again, 'kay?
>>739680163The TARDIS interior struck me more as a completely different plane of existence from the one the exterior sits on because of the singular portal and self contained nature of the structure. That's a little different from space itself being warped and compressed IMO, but maybe that's pedantry, so fair enough.
>>739679985Kill or be killed unironically holds true. The only reason Frisk gets to save everyone is because the circumstances allowed for it. If Frisk jumped one soul to early into the underground she would have been fucked, it only works because Asgore did all the dirty work for her. Who's to say circumstances won't allow for a better ending to be reached this time around? We already saw both extremes in Undertale (pacifist, genocide) why not explore the futility of your and the character's actions in Deltarune?
Does a bad end count as a proper ending?If so then the 'one ending' we're getting is the world being covered by darkness.
>>739656602>What is /v/'s take on penumbra?It was probably the one Deltarune theory that I really wished would've been confirmed, so it being deconfirmed before chapters 3 and 4 came out didn't make the wait for them any better. Still, it resulted in the absolute best fansongs while it was ongoing.>Will we get it in deltarune?Hardly a chance in hell. There's a very slim chance Toby might break his rule and use it one more time as a tribute to Buzinkai, but I would not count on it at all.>Was it ever intended for deltarune?It likely was, and was probably even foreshadowed by the Doctor leitmotif's hidden cameo in Hopes and Dreams in Undertale. But I would guess that Toby had to change plans after Buzinkai died very shortly after Deltarune Chapter 1 released, couldn't get permission to use it anymore, and decided to leave Penumbra Phantasm (in any context) vaporware out of respect for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-MEtBe0eysAnyone seen this yet?Thoughts?
>>739680638That is exactly how it's gonna end. The world can't be saved, the prophecy will always be broken, the world will be covered in darkness no matter what.
>>739670403She can barely walk with her FF cup tits spraying milk everywhere I don't think she could rape anyone.
>>739679887All the good writefags are either furries, women, and Charatards and the latter two scare me
>>739679887femkris is niggertrannycore
>>739680953really working for your ‘saying words’ award huh?
>>739680501If Frisk fell earlier she would probably take Asgore’s soul to go to the surface and try to get help to free monsters there. Asgore would probably kill himself but outside of him I don't think anyone else would die. Otherwise she would just probably live underground, that's what the monsters were planning to before Flowey interrupted them.
>>739680501The concept of "Your choices don't matter" has been proven wrong again and again. You can decide if Jackenstein and Tenna live or die, you can decide if Berdly gets put into a coma or not. Ralsei himself in his lowest moment wants to believe there's more than one ending to this whole adventure, to the prophecy.>>739680638I doubt the ending of Deltarune will be "And then everybody died THE END fuck you".
What black magic did Toby use to somehow create one of the most popular furry works of all time and still not be seen as a furry in the eye of the general public?
>>739681123His characters aren't blatant furry bait and mostly just cartoon animals.
>>739679887Ma'am go find your self-insert fics elsewhere.
>>739681179>mostly just cartoon animals.What's the difference?If you ask any furry they'll tell you it's furshit but normies somehow don't see it.
>>739681123Because he can't draw for shit and his characters aren't just ugly fursuit abominations
>>739681123Were the people who made the Looney toons or Micky mouse considered furries?
>>739681082>"And then everybody died THE END fuck you".Who said anything about everybody dying? The world being covered in darkness doesn't mean everybody dies, all the characters could simply be somewhere else, another world, one that was created so that they could escape into. You won't be there though, you'll be stuck in the world that's covered in darkness. Maybe Gaster will be there to keep you company too.
>>739681123He doesn’t draw in the stereotypical furry artstyle. That’s all he needed to avoid the allegations
>>739681274Yes?Osamu Tezuka was known as a furry.
>>739681082Your choices matter, there is also one ending. Those things don't contradict each other.
>>739662516Is it because she has aunt-lers?
>>739681123>and still not be seen as a furry in the eye of the general public??where does this headcanon come fromhis avatar/persona he constantly uses as stand-in is literally an animal
>>739681123The general public doesn't think anyone involved in the original creation of Sonic, Crash, or Spyro is a furry, I'm pretty sure. So it's not just something that happens when your protagonist is a funny animal.
>>739681392That seems to leave an awful lot of room for alternate "endings" depending on how strict your definition of "ending" is
>>739681082Your choices won't amount to much when it comes to the ending. All roads lead to rome
>>739681469A literal actual dog, not an anthro fursona
>>739681543Or maybe you going out of your way to collect the Shadow Crystals and the Eggs will lead to another ending.
>>739681504Look, it's very simple, there's going to be an event at the end of the game that's gonna happen no matter what, and that's the ending, but what happens before that, that can be changed. I cannot put it any simpler than that.
>>739681123Non of his characters look like full blown furbait with the exception of ralsei (and even then faggots need to exaggerate shit with their art). They all just look like cartoon animal people with people needing to go out of their way to make them look “sexy”
So has anyone been able to figure out a half decent theory on what the fuck the DELTA RUNE actually is and why Gaster is waiting for it?
>>739680638No, that would be lame.
>>739681881We canonically know what Delta Rune is, it's the legend/prophecy.
>>739681568?there's loads of furries that do feral, which technically is anthro to a lesser degree most of the time (anthropomorphization is not just bipedalism)
>>739681881DELTARUNE was created by the hopes and dreams (tears) of the lightners flowing into the depths and making contact with the fabric of reality, where their hopes and dreams froze into the DELTARUNE. The DELTARUNE will happen, but it doesn't need to happen any specific way. Various people can fill the various roles in the DELTARUNE, all that matters is the events come to pass. Gaster is not waiting just for DELTARUNE, but specifically HIS DELTARUNE; his view of how the prophecy will unveil. One where he is able to create a new future by subverting the final tragedy, likely by making it happen to someone other than the most likely heroes, the Deltawarriors, who he has watched and seen fall victim to this final tragedy over and voer again.
>>739681250The difference is that the Undertale cast looks like Looney Tunes, not furshit.
>>739682085looney tunes is furry shit retard
what's her problem
>>739680467Tard.
>>739682131Nobody except hard-core furries believes this
>>739681060I mean, headcanon aside. We know what Frisk would do with unfavorable circumstances. Leave the underground and never look back like the neutral endings
>>739681991Gaster says "my delta rune" thoughso did he make the prophecy?i didn't know he was some kind of soothsayer
>>739679630>mikefags are still mindbroken
>>739682273Probably. It's very likely he's the author of it.
>>739682273Or he's literally talking about the game. Gaster is a metafag
>>739682273gaster didn't make the prophecy. he's trying to change it
>>739682237Frisk usually resets after each neutral ending to do it again, though. I do think in a world she couldn't break the barrier she would either stay with Toriel and the rest or go to the surface to get help, I don't think a true pacifist Frisk would abandon them, just a high LOVE one.
>>739682428why does he care to change it?
>>739681735I don't agree with your premise
>>739682508That's fine, you're free to disagree, it won't change the ending.
>>739682489after being shattered across time and space, he saw that his own universe, UNDERTALE, works just fine without him. So he found a universe doomed without him, DELTARUNE. He's been watching it for years, and like someone falls in love with the characters of a game, he fell in love with DELTARUNE's world. So he wants to change its fate to one where the final tragedy can be averted. He wants to save the world. He's both motivated by genuine love, and by how much it hurt to not be needed by his original universe.
>>739682194You tell on yourself too easy, schizo
>>739682181Bitch mom
>>739682181Having Dess as a sister and Kris as a BFF
>>739682181she's a femmine character written by toby
>>739682470The reset is in our hands tho, flowey goads us into reseting, trying again. Frisk is outside during that. I don't even think Frisk has the capability to reset, thats on Chara as it's her save file, and she can only do that because YOU are determination.
>>739682181Prey animals tend to have smaller brains than predators.
>>739679887because frisk and krisfags rely on w*men to make most of their smut and while a lot of chara smut is made by men most charatards are fucking insane
>abort weird route>reach chapter 6>can FINALLY make the twisted sword>enter the crafting room>it's completely different, with the Annoying Dog in the middle of the room with dogsong playing>interact with him>Give the dog the THORNRING?>yes or no>the room stays this way until you select yesYou rike?
sopranosposting is the only thing that keeps me coming back to these threads at this point
>>739683790How bout dat
>>739683404Frisk does have a file hidden in the game, it's file 9 and she does remember resets. Flowey is also talking to Frisk after neutral routes, I do think Frisk is the one resetting and being filled with determination. >>739683489Plenty of men make smut of Frisk and FemKris, you really aren't in the know.
>>739683651This is indeed SUCH a Toby thing to do.
Guys guysWhat if instead of friend inside meIt was Newsletter inside meGet it, newsletter wait waitingWAITING WAITING WAITINGNEWSLETTER NEWSLETTERTOBY WAIT NEWSLETTERJUNE 5 JUNE 5 JUNE 5HOW MUCH LONGER MY NEWSLETTERUNE
>>739683957>I do think Frisk is the one resetting and being filled with determination.Not him but I completely disagree with this, to me Undertale always gave me the feeling that the determining factor between the demise of the earlier children compared to Frisk was the help from the Player, the Player is the one providing the actual determination and as such the ability to reset things. If you take that away and make it an innate ability of Frisk, all the meta elementsjust feel weirdly out of place to me.
>>739659864>ccan chop down hedges and baddiesKris gets the BITCHES...
>>739684038You're not getting a newsletter on June 5th, accept it before you get disappointed again.
What if Kris embraced the Satsui no Hado?
>>739660753I'm thinking Toby played Jump King.
>>739683651I'll go back in time to give the dog a lobotomy
>>739684224>If you take that away and make it an innate ability of Frisk, all the meta elementsjust feel weirdly out of place to me.I disagree, I think the player is indeed important but our power mainly depends on the vessel as seen in Deltarune. If Frisk was a scrub us being there wouldn't change much if she just sucked. Plus even those kids without us could save and load so they actually prove my point further.
>>739679891>You're only getting the crystals persisting between saves.actually they don't do that any more
>>739683957Flowey begs you not to reset after true pacifist, implying Frisk has no say in it. I don't think she has zero agency but the choices ultimetly come down to you. Monsters being freed is a team effort between YOU, Chara and Frisk
>>739684658I could believe this if it wasn't for the fact that at the end of the day, the player decides on doing a True Reset or not, which to me is a sign that the Player holds a higher power that the rest of the characters, under normal circumstances, cannot achieve. The Player is a key factor of all this, without the Player, Frisk wouldn't have been able to get as far. Also, evidence aside, just treating Frisk as overwhelmingly special just makes Undertale into another "Chosen One" story, which makes it feel less unique to me.
>>739684762Yeah I don't know why people say this, since when is that even a thing? I don't remember being able to get the shadow crystals from slot 1 in slot 2, if I remember correctly that was restricted only to the same savefile.
>>739685023>>739685046Technically Flowey (believes at least that he) is talking to Chara during the true reset, but I do think a true reset is special and something only done to us, unlike regular save, load and reset. I don't think that's evidence Frisk couldn't save without us, just that she can't do the super special ultra reset.>just treating Frisk as overwhelmingly special just makes Undertale into another "Chosen One" story, which makes it feel less unique to me.That's just personal taste, personally I don't like the blessed by God trope, either. I prefer Frisk being special myself.
>>739682625Correct!
>>739684762>>739685126I thought you could get them in any slot but that explains why I couldn't get the Knight’s when I beat it in another slot.
I don't like how Player theory subsequently robs Frisk of the characterization they do get. What's the point of True Pacifist making the distinction between Player and Player Character if everything of consequence is blamed on the Player?
>>739685406Same. I don't think the player is that important to Undertale versus Deltarune and a lot of its plot can be explained with just Frisk and Chara with us only acting like a guardian angel
>>739685406Nothing of consequence was supposed to be blamed on the player character. Just some flavor like exactly how they chose to flirt when you picked the command. That's all it meant.
>>739677404Hitting shit with the "scarf" seems more effective than fireballs DESU
>>739685406That's the basic of ''leave the player to interpret, don't explain everything''And it will happen again with Kris>Kris did something>YOU did something
>>739685314>That's just personal tasteThat's why I said "evidence aside". In any case if you ask me Frisk being a "Chosen One" is also just a blessing from God, or Fate or whatever, but one without the meta element, unless you identify the Author with God I guess. In any case my issue with it is that it just makes it feel like another "by the books" fantasy game. Let's take for example Final Fantasy I, you play as the Warrior of Light, a group of characters chosen by the Crystals to go fight the evil. In Undertale, if we assume Frisk is special, then the whole game is just, you play as Frisk, who is special thanks to... something, and you explore the underground. It just feels more... banal, like one more game in the pile of fantasy games. There isn't anything wrong with that but I personally find a character being elevated to some degree through contact with the Player to be a more interesting scenario.
>>739684336Kris should embrace it
>>739685406I personally just hate how much people emphasise you being different from Frisk when it seemed pretty obvious when playing that making Frisk be separate from you at the end was the game's way of letting you come away from True Pacifist without feeling so attached that you have to do Genocide, assuming you haven't already done it. I beat true Pacifist years ago and thought "Oh good, I'm glad they didn't forget to give the player avatar a happy ending." It feels like people saw the ending to Genocide and decided that route was the ENTIRE message of the game.
>>739683489>most charatards are fucking insanejust following after my waifu boss
>>739685126it was a thing with chapter 1+2 but it was removed with the 3+4 release, now it has to be the same slot
>>739685796>>739685868But doesn't that fly in the face of True Pacifist's message? The only reason why you spare ALL the monsters is because you care about the characters enough to want the happiest ending. You're giving lines of code and collections of pixels real emotions and meaning, which is why the barrier of Undertale is broken and all the monsters get to live in "the real world". So Frisk being treated as an empty husk to enact your will doesn't swing with me.
>>739686192You're supposed to be able to come away from a game without feeling a need to come back to it no matter how it ends. The fact that the underground puts itself back together again after the GoHD fight ends is basically a convenience, and one I think kinda hurts the message behind "saving" characters in the face of your save file being reset.
>>739685314You can theorize if Frisk would have been able to reset on her own but keep in mind, her determination would have to be stronger than Flowey's who was pumped full with it from multiple different human souls. Eather way, as long as WE and Chara are connected to UT's world Frisk can't do anything just like Flowey.
>>739685406>>739686192The people trying to distinguish the player from Frisk are just retards trying to pretend that Frisk has a distinct personality and character from the player like Kris does (this is not true)
>>739685936I guess I just like my protagonists special, although I do also like Undertale being like a normal fantasy game but with a twist. Undertale already explores a lot of RPG tropes so I like them exploring the "protagonist is the special someone that holds the fate of the world" trope rather than Frisk being a literal nobody that can be replaced with a meatsack. Deltarune is a evolution of that now exploring a chosen one party, I think we just fundamentally disagree on this>>739686192That's because Frisk isn't supposed to be a self-insert or literally you, people just try to explain she's her own person separate from you. People focus on that because there's too many people who think you're literally the same even though the game says otherwise.
>>739686529>Frisk has a distinct personality and character from the player like Kris does (this is not true)Holy filtered.
>>739682181She craves the HVMAN cock like all monster girls do
>>739686357True pacifist hinges on you foregoing every direct external gameplay-forward reward system the game offers in favor of the story and characters. Not because the story and characters are "supposed" to be that important to you, but because it wants you to realize a game's extrinsic reward systems aren't the end all be all of what it offers even if the game DOESN'T have characters or dialogue.
>>739686428>her determination would have to be stronger than Flowey's who was pumped full with it from multiple different human souls.I do think she has stronger determination than him, yeah.>Eather way, as long as WE and Chara are connected to UT's world Frisk can't do anything just like Flowey.Maybe but I thought we were talking about a hypothetical world where it's just Frisk, plus Chara is technically connected to Frisk anyways and leeches on her determination.
>>739686357>So Frisk being treated as an empty husk to enact your will doesn't swing with me.Agreed, I think it's because Frisk isn't as blatant in her actions as Chara or Kris.
>>739686242You got to accept the other waifu in your heart to be less insane
>>739686529Didn't Play the Game Award
>>739686615Frisk actually is just a player avatar with no opinions or values
>>739659864>the greatest fuel of all is friendshipUHHHHHHHHH SUSELLEGROIDS?????????
>>739687085I'm right though. Frisk is not a person. Or more accurately, he's whoever you make him be
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>>739661723i say george floyd you say how high
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>>739686569>That's because Frisk isn't supposed to be a self-insert or literally youFrisk is your self-insert, you very much control and make choices through them, but it's blindingly obvious Frisk is not you to anyone with a brain. Undertale ending with Frisk finally being named separately from you doesn't stop you from deciding the ending they get, because ultimately Frisk is just a player avatar. To emphasise this for the retards who love to misread that phrase, I am not saying Frisk has literally no personality or identity. Their role in the whole story just doesn't necessitate making that distinction, much like any other older JRPG with a named silent protagonist.
>>739687094I already said you were filtered
>>739687476Frisk isn't a self-insert, she is your window to the world of Undertale, your connection. That's why you can still make choices for her. There's a small difference between the two, but one requires you to project yourself into her while the other you view the world THROUGH her. The difference between Undertale and other JRPGs is that the player isn't an entity in those, the protagonist is just the protagonist by themselves.
>>739687829That's exactly what a self insert is thoughbelt.
>>739687476>>739687631Wrong, Frisk does literally have no personality or identity. He is a nobody with no will, a spiritual zombie to serve as a meat glove for you to play the game>>739687829*he
>>739685406>What's the point of True Pacifist making the distinction between Player and Player Character if everything of consequence is blamed on the Player?Undertale is about the player and the choices that YOU make. It's not just about whether you decide to be "good" or "bad," everything you do is judged in the specific context of YOUR position as someone playing a video game, someone who is "above consequences" and has unlimited opportunity to do the right thing as many times as you want.>>739686569>That's because Frisk isn't supposed to be a self-insertBlatantly untrue. Frisk is the vessel of your will and directly identified with you for 99% of the game. Finding out their name at the end of the game doesn't change that, you're still making choices for them, about them, to the very end ("I have places to go"/"I want to stay with you"). "Frisk" is just the ribbon to wrap up True Pacifist at the end.To the extent that Frisk is characterized or gains characterization, it is indistinguishable from that of Flowey's and Chara's, an innocent kid that can be twisted into a sociopathic murderer. The player character is a player analogue, because of course they are. The Frisk and Chara who won't laugh at the suffering of Snowy's mother are the same Frisk and Chara who find amusement and fulfillment in Genocide. Their will is aligned with the player's in every meaningful way, Undertale wouldn't work otherwise.
>>739688049Well, for me a self-insert needs to be someone you project your own traits onto and pretend to be literally you, which Frisk isn't.
>>739686192Frisk dies at the beginning, you’re controlling the body of a dead kid slowly brought back to life by your determination to finish the game. With Frisk being affected by your determination in the pacifist route, and Chara in the genocide route. At least that was how I read it.
>>739688146Frisk is not like Chara because Chara actually has his own personality and agenda, which is why waking him up caues you, the player, to lose more and more agency until finally it's just Chara guiding you to the end of the game without you being able to make any choices
>>739687829>>739688049>>739688212This is just a problem of definitions, both of those definitions can be used for a self-insert.
>>739688212Well your definition is pretty warped, Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker are selfinserts for example
>>739688292You’re still the supreme being over Chara, if you don’t take the deal you can still just delete the game and forget about it, she’s a lower being metaphysically.
>>739688292>Chara actually has his own personality and agenda>which is why waking him up caues you, the player, to lose more and more agency until finally it's just Chara guiding you to the end of the gameLiterally the exact opposite of what Chara directly explains to you at the end of the game.
>>739688146Again, I view what you said as they being our windows to the world, that's why their will matches ours. Yes, they're a player analogue but I wouldn't say they are just meat puppets, they have their own will and lives outside of you. Even Flowey you mentioned is a good important, he's an analogue to the player, not a self-insert.
>>739688212It's a spectrum, Frisk's place in the game doesn't undo them as a self-insert, especially given how throughout your first runs of the game you're not going to know Frisk is actually separate from you. They're left unnamed, and only object to decisions that don't further the scene the way the author wants in a meta sense. These get recontextualised in hindsight, but if you ever play a game with a silent protagonist, you'll find Frisk does not do a single thing distinctly from them besides not literally sharing the name you give them. This can also be a problem with how people engage with games, because for me I prefer to just have a default name for JRPG protagonists so I can play as them. If a game never makes a point to make these characters seem distinct from me, then I have nothing to go off and default to myself, which makes Undertale's twist with Frisk feel like a nice reminder that the silent protagonist you've been playing wasn't forgotten along the way. Toby got hit cake and ate it too.
If height correlates to heaven and heaven correlates to control then Gerson might've started hunching over on purpose.
>>739686357It's complicated in generalLike here, people only tend to blame the player, but also multiple times it has been show that Kris can do things on his own even when the soul is inside, even when Noelle is semi-aware, she still thinks it's KrisThis shit is just really complicated in general, Toby needs to drop a bit the mystery and i'm not asking him to explain everything, but give more clues
>>739686729We're at the point of arguing each others headcanon really. The fact Frisk does nothing to resist you doing bad thing makes me think her own determination is not that strong.Frisk being on the furface while the true reset occurs means Chara is utilizing your determination to use save/reset
>>739688678>Berdly has the exact same willpower as a Werewire and could escape on his own only because he was shorter than them
>>739688412He's projecting, like many characters in UT do, making guesses at our motivations based on their own ideas of why someone might do something. He can't know why we did the genocide route, and gets confused if you disprove his hypothesis by doing it again. We know he was like this even before he died. Probably just forgot since he spent a century as a ghost.
Kris killed Dess.
>>739688693In this specific case, Kris may have refrained from doing the only thing he could have reasonably done to stop us (removing the soul from his body) because he was afraid it might attach itself to Noelle. Preventing this (and similar outcomes) is his primary role as "the cage". Of course on the weird route he will eventually fail.
>>739688329Yeah, it's a semantic issues.>>739688339I never saw them as one at all lol
>>739689148Yes but probably on accident
>>739688693The Weird Route is explicitly your own will, even your own voice, overtaking Kris's. It could not be more clear that it's not something Kris wants.Of course Noelle is going to keep talking to "Kris," it's not rational to assume your friend is possessed by a demon. Even if she understands on some level that's what's happening, she's going to deny it for her own sanity until we make her confront it, like with "it snowed."
Please shut the fuck. Go to /vg/ already. I say this as a Deltarune fan who mostly ignores these threads now, you faggots are extremely annoying.
>>739689148>>739689310this aint omori son
>>739689082Chara didn't make you do Genocide. Stop being a retard.
>>739688625>you'll find Frisk does not do a single thing distinctly from them besides not literally sharing the name you give them.The main difference between us is that I don't think a silent protagonist is a self-insert by default, only when we give them a name as they act as projections of ourselves is when I see them as one. So Frisk isn't a self-insert for me, she's just a protagonist. You're right though that Toby intends us to see her as one, that seems to be intentional according to this interview to build up the twist>Toby: The character doesn’t say very much because then you can identify with them better. Most of the game’s narration is in the second person. The more details and personality I add to “you,” then the harder it is to get absorbed into the role.>There’s more to this answer but I can’t say anything until the game is complete.https://meloshantani.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/toby-foxs-undertale-dev-2-dev-interview-1/So yeah, Toby was trying to do both or at least bait you with it.
>>739689450That's the anti-human schizo, he genuinely thinks Chara is Satan himself (not herself because Chara MUST only be a dude)
>>739689450I didn't say that, faggot. I said he makes a wild guess about our motivation that may or may not be right, and which you can prove him wrong about if you want
Will sans reclaim his glory after Chapter 5 or will he be the homewrecker of the story forever
>>739688730Yeah, we mostly are but we are arguing a headcanon concept. I guess we just fundamentally disagree in our IMAGINATIONS.My headcanon is that it's all Frisk's headcanon just like it's only her soul, both us and Chara leech from it. That's why Chara only wakes up with Frisk's fall and nobody else's.
>>739689703Chara is a psychopath, but also I never said he made us do the genocide route. He didn't, and it would defeat the whole exercize if he did.
>>739689830You're too obvious.
>>739689772He'll get killed in one hit by Asgore, on accident
>>739689772
>monsters in the first game cry about how they just want to see the surface and how evil humans are>in the second game almost all of humanity is wiped outChara did nothing wrongI wish we could do another genocide in DT instead of this weird doe breaking shit
>>739689876Explain how I'm wrong
>>739689772I think the only way he redeems himself is if it's confirmed Kris wanted Toriel gone with no hiding behind cope and he actively saved her from him
>>739689769You don't lose agency at any point during Genocide. Chara didn't make you kill anyone. You controlled the buttons you pressed. You are 100% responsible for everything.
>>739689965But Chara was the first one to want to kill all humans
>>739689965>>in the second game almost all of humanity is wiped outHumanity isn't extinct in Deltarune, that's only fanon. As far as we know humans exist outside of Hometown. Also Chara hates humans, she would be happy if they were gone.
>>739690034You can't back out after Metaton, and if you try to say no to destroying the world, Chara openly mocks you for thinking you still have a say, and jumpscares you before doing it anyway. Of course, the player IS 100% responsible for letting it get to that point in the first place
>>739690049Yeah but monsters did it because they are evilChara would do it because they deserve it
>>739690201>You can't back out after MetatonYes you can. Reset the game.
>>739690324Did they though? Maybe they had a good reason for throwing this faggot in a hole>>739690330What the fuck do you think "long ago" means? Hint: it's not 5 seconds earlier.
>there are people in 2018+8 that think Chara made them do it
>>739690551No there aren't
>>739677540That's a thicc boy, dude
>>739690551Chara made me do it otherwise I couldn't see her in game
>Frisk Boy>Kris Boy>Chara GirlThis isn’t based off any evidence, just what I naturally gravitate towards, and if I as a human being feel a feminine aura emanating off Chara, that means it’s a girl, same goes for the boys.
>>739690551>people It's literally one singular schizo mindbroken over Chara and humans in general
>PROCEED thread is forcebly converted into a charafag threadthings haven't changed. charafags were niggers in 2016 and still are
>>739660161This general is too brown and low IQ for RudyKnight kino
>>739689346I know that's the most obvious answer, but i just find sussy that Kris had multiple chances to stop it, like how he bites his hand, i'm not saying Kris is evil like the player but there must be a deeper meaning
>>739690741This is me but Frisk is a girl as well
>>739690832Indeed. And when they don't have arguments, they'll just start lying about you, like this faggot >>739690551 >>739690815
>>739690832he really fucking ruins every thread with massive avatarfagging spam kek, I personally care little about it because there's nothing to discuss but it will be annoying when the new chapter drops
>>739690832It’s just a temporary measure, the charafag scares tourists away for some reason
>>739690551Of course not dumbassShe did it herself
>>739690868Rudy can't be the knight because his gay moustache is too silly
>>739690324Chara loves monster, she would HATE you
>>739690868This dialogue can also be obtained in chapter 4 if you didn't interact with the sink in chapter 2. It was actually a Rudy Knighter that went and checked that
>>739690832Don't bitch like the schizo and just post your doe to show the strength of doefags.
>>739690934Yeah I'm not seeing the connection between those two. Just looks like a schizo firing off at random.
>>739672881Can someone post the actual gif please haha
>>739690956>>739690961Do you genuinely believe there's only one person posting Chara in this thread?
>>739690868i'm surprised no one had the "murder on the orient express" theory for the knight where it's actually (spoilers for a nearly 100 year old book) all of the suspects and it's not just one of them
>>739690868Have you considered RudyKnight is fucking BORING
Chara manipulated Ralsei choice which lead to Kris and Noelle being aloneChara told Kris the magic word proceedChara gave the thorn to SpamtonChara told Noelle about snowgraveChara made Noelle invite Kris to her room aloneChara gave Kris the thorn back to Kris
>>739677562we literally see “The Girl” use a sword what do you think?
>>739691119Because you are replying to a long running schizo in these threads that is seething because he got called out
>>739691175The Dark World mechanics don't really allow for that. Gerson especially is a good smoking gun.>>739691125Just skip to the meltdown part.
>>739690984strongest counter-argument so far
>>739691153>implying I believe it rather than knowing so
>>739690636proofs?
>>739691153>>739691267I don't really believe you. Charafags have been acting like this for near-on a decade at this point. Par the course really.
>>739691343Schizo-kun...
>>739689346Noelle knows about the player now but what else is she supposed to call (you)? until chapter 5 where she'll probably ask the player's name can only imagine what kind of mayhem that will cause
>>739689965>in the second game almost all of humanity is wiped outDamn didn’t know chara won in deltarune
>>739690832>>739690934>>739690956Rent-freeGod's favorite child wins again
>>739691381In my experience the schizo obsessed with Charafags and hating them has been far more detrimental to these threads than anyone who has posted the character recently. He adds nothing but shitflinging
>>739691272>The Dark World mechanics don't really allow for that. Gerson especially is a good smoking gun.Why not?I don't see why it couldn't be that Rudy and Carol and Noelle taking turns to cover for each other, it would explain how the knight can get around the place so fast if it wasn't the same person each time
>>739691153100%the samefagging is obvious too, despite his efforts to make it diverse
>>739690832I don’t even like the humanbros but you know you can just post something else if you hate the human “spam”.
See?
>>739691473Why does a dead child cause a schizo to seethe over them too much? Especially after the stream you posted?
>FriskUnknown>CharaBoy>Kris GirlThis is based and trvthpilled with Toby agreeing with me in a dream
>>739691491>I don't see why it couldn't be that Rudy and Carol and Noelle taking turns to cover for each otherBecause that would be fucking stupid and makes no senseThere's one Knight and we all know who it is
>>739691479The thread being forcibly pivoted to discussion about Chara and Frisk rather than the Weird Route isn't detrimental? Charafags were like this before too, they all hate the idea of anything besides their obsession being discussed organically.>>739691473There's one.
>>739691497You can believe in your insanity if you want, we know you're projecting your own samefagging
>>739690961>the charafag scares tourists away for some reasonyou sure it’s not the constant insistence of calling everyone a schizo as well as my here not being anything to talk about with the game right now?
>>739691190It's not because the proper RudyKnight theory is comprised of Chapter 3 Knight being Dess and Chapter 4 Knight being Rudy. RudyKnight is DoubleKnight.
>>739691712>The thread being forcibly pivoted to discussion about Chara and Frisk rather than the Weird Route isn't detrimental?Nobody forced discussion about it, it happened naturally. Ironically the schizo I was complaining forces every discussion to be about the humans because of his seething hatred, he even participated in it so bitch about him
>>739691228CAROL IS THE GIRL!?!?!
>>739691763It’s never Lupus
>>739691473>>739691479>>739691561>>739691619This is pathetic.
>>739656602I feel like we will get something that evokes Penumbra without actually being it. Like how Black Knife is very similar to Nightmare Knight but isn't.
GUYS GUYS CHARA POSSESSED KRISAND THE KRIS NEVER DID HIS EVIL SMILE EVER AGAIN ARAKI FORGOT
>>739660161To crack to beat the dess truthers not crack enough to rival the Noelle gods
Why doesn’t the TITAN’s hard light surface match his actual appearance? I thought I was gonna fight the fat nigga from the VALVe old intro for a second
>>739691754People only (rightfully) call you a schizo, but you do call everyone your boogeyman
The Knight bat is actually tung tung tung sahur bat
It's true. You caught us. In the secret Charafag discord we all decided to come and subvert this 14-hour-old thread 25 posts before the bump limit, just to gangstalk and harass this >>739691712 anon specifically. It was all for him. After all, we don't pay him any rent.
>>739691754any time a yellowbro shows up they get called schizo, so probably
why are the humanfags the only ones “smart” enough to realize they can just post art of their characters and people will talk about them?
>>739691473Toby outing himself as a Chara apologist was by far the best thing to come from that stream
>>739691763it's never Penumbra Lupus
>>739691817All me btw
>>739691937I almost exclusively post Susie in these threads, faggot, and I've been called schizo.
>>739690650I want her to vore me
>>739692053HOLY BASED
>>739691968Please don’t, the charafag samefagging to oblivion and calling anyone that notices a schizo is bad alone, but it’s still preferable to yellowfags spamming Martlet big fat tits
>>739692053I kneel.
>>739691861I can't believe Kris will commit genocides in just two more years when Deltarune fully releases!
Canon Kris boob size at the end of the thread.
>>739691963HEY WAIT A MINUTE. I thought there was suppose to be a humanfag cabal not chara. WHATS GOING ON?
>>739692120What's your problem with yellowbros?
>>739692120>The schizo is trying to shitstir more shit against Yellow Not content in going to /vrpg/ to start shit?
>>739692053HOLY. PEAK
>>739692164this is inaccurate. dess is the one in chara's role down to speaking the same in japanese
>>739692187This but for the other 2 humans
>>739692120>proving the other guy right
>>739692257the yellowfags learned to ignore him so he needs to go here to bait people easier
>>739692053What the fuck you're me???
>>739681082>>739680638>>739681312the world being covered in darkness is literally how mother 3 ends
>>739692216This schizo has a problem with the threads in general, when he raided /vrpg/ to blame his human boogeyman he confessed he just hates that there's still threads without news. https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/3989371/#q3989571
>>739692257>>739692336You're getting them mixed up. The one in vrpg is a shartynigger
>>739691812You're joking but she really is, she's the previous girl, the Prophecy is looping because it previously "failed".
Can we please talk about the game
>>739691479>In my experience anyone condemning my avatar faggotry and spam is bad for the thread!Fuck your "experience", retard
>>739692480Don't lecture us on our own schizos. And care to explain the post directly below that one highlighted?
>>739692571Go ahead.
>>739691963Goddammit, *me, stop leaking our (my) plans. They aren't supposed to know about the real conspiracy to terrorize this one particular guy>>739692197Frisk doesn't exist, she's an optical illusion, take your meds.
>>739692404Man that would be lame, because Toby did an ending where Alphys off herselfI want details not open ended slop
>>739692120>charatranny also hates yellowI guess because it doesn't have his dogshit favorite 'character' in it
>>739692571We're not allowed to do that past a certain time of day.
>>739692639Damn I forgot the image
>>739692286Thete is no chara in deltarune because it's a better written game
>>739689895is this an actual dialogue?
ITS UP!https://x.com/suicidalpixel/status/2059108160003010715
>>739692316This but for the suicidal cowgirl.
>>739692505Our anti-human schizo raided there a few days ago even if he is particularly pur schizo.>>739692612That was our schizo trying to start shit with you guys without being able to stop his obsession.
>>739692571Sorry, this faggot samefag tranny >>739692702 won't allow it
I'm late to the party guys.Haven't played since the survey program.How are the stonks in the "ralsei is anagram for asriel which is a version of the name azrael who is the angel of death accompanying the deceased into the afterlife because kris('s body) is dead" theory looking?Am I down or up?
>>739692653>charapoopshitschizo is the guy complaining about CharapoopshitschizoI guess you realized you fucked up.
>>739692286Kris and Noelle fits more for the Chara/Asriel parallelism, even the ''mean'' jokes are similiar
>>739692787I've never once used /vrpg/, charaschizo. Have you considered that it may be that more than one person hates your gay ass spam?
>>739692825ehhh i'd say you're somewhere in the middle, you probably made some gains and lost some here and there
>>739692825Down. Why would Kris be dead, what the fuck are you talking about
>>739688146It's not about your choices so much that its about the approach to videogame RPGs. Do you love the characters or only value the levels? That's the whole reason why the genocide route exists in the first place. There aren't any real choices in an RPG as every outcome is pre-programmed and determined by the developer. You will always reach your final destination at the end of the game, you will always fight the mandatory boss, you will ALWAYS reach an ending if you continue to play towards it. YOU the player isn't good or evil for mauling the snowman or making Flowey beg for mercy, you simply are exploring the game to get as much content as possible. Frisk has always been their own person who reacts a certain way regardless of why or how you press a button. They always get ripshit pissed after getting dunked on the first time even if you already know what happens, they're always filled with determination, they choose to walk enemies down in the genocide path OUTSIDE OF YOUR INPUT. You don't see them speak directly to you and incorrectly assume that they are a vehicle lacking secondary depth in a videogame where every character is implied to have an inner world.
>>739692197Chara is to humanfags what Noelle is to doetards.
>>739692825Shitton of theories died with Ch3+4 releaseA black cat with weird eyes is now is the meta for theories
>>739692825Go play the game it's a real treat. the WAITing room is honestly almost as much as fun as the game itself
>>739692286Dess doesn't act anything like Chara.>>739692751Based and nice ass
>>739692892fug>>739692927Because he rips his soul out and shambles around like a corpse without it, that and the "ralsei is his psychopomp" thing.>>739692974>A black cat with weird eyes is now is the meta for theoriesWhat the fuck?>>739692975I want to but I don't have the time, too busy with work.
>>739692120what's wrong with martlet tits? you gay or something?
>>739692746
>>739692825Rock bottom. Kris seems to (barely) be alive and Susie is definitely not dead
>>739692787Just stop.
>>739692571Our schizo is having a melty, at least it's on bump limit>>739692873Yes, I believe the schizo with very particular takes is a "dozen" people. You are very convincing
>>739693051It’s weird to lewd Berdly’s aunt
>>739693091Why don't you ever attack the schizo even though he literally attacked you?
I don't know why Charafags and Yellowfags should be enemies, Clover x Chara is a cute ship
>>739693028>I want to but I don't have the time, too busy with work.Well that's a shame. Don't lurk these threads too much, surprises is what makes the game so special
>>739693173nta but if you reply it gives them what they wantjust hide the post and move on
Why is the attentionwhore always making it "woe is me, me, me" every fucking time
>>739693028Kris was just pretending that he can barely move without the soul
>>739692825Very down, Kris is not dead even if there's zombie allegories involving him?
Holy shit can the next thread PLEASE be somewhat normal
>>739680721Noelle's horns scare me, otherwise it's cool.
>>739692995>Dess doesn't act anything like Chara.Both are close friends of Asriel who died and their deaths go on to haunt the narrative of the game. Both are associated with knives and 9999. Both are weird and melty and drooly and laughy.
>>739693091Cute lesbians.
>>739693173I did no such thing you lying tranny schizo
>>739693257With the Friz?No way!
>>739693257Ask again next thread.
>>739693219Because he is autistic and wants to spam with no pushback
>>739693267Kill yourself. Cole is a dude.>>739693204>the charafags are now red and yellow shills>>739693173>>739693217Maybe don't lecture us on what happens in our threads.
DOE SEX SAVE ME FROM THE WAIT
>>739656621GOD ISNT REAL MORTY WUBBALUBBA DUBB DUBB
>>739693204I don't think there's any beef, I personally talk to a Cloverfren every thread. It's just the schizo trying to start shit, sadly.
>>739693443>GOD ISNT REALHe's not thoughever
>>739693353>>739693257We're not getting a relatively normal thread until chapter 5 drowns out the spammers and the retards.
>>739693417>Maybe don't lecture us on what happens in our threads.That is good advice for all of 4chan really, don't engage and eventually shitposters will get bored that no one is biting their bait
>>739693417Cole is a self-insert for HMOFA fags (it's okay he's still cute since he's connected to Clover)
>>739693219>>739693403There's no attentionwhore here except the schizo, he always begs for attention every single thread.
fuck /v/
>>739693417>ColeUh, their name is Clover
>>739693523Cole being legally distinct Clover is good since it keeps people from trying to insert gender BS into DRY
>>739693527Like I already said, you niggers haven't changed since 2016.
>>739693417Nobody lectured what happened in your thread, I was talking about the Deltarune thread. At this point I'm thinking you're the Yellowtard that was spamming earlier threads and trying to cause trouble for no reason
Next thread I'm posting Kris cunny.
The reason Kris wanted to be Susie's friend because they both have violent tendencies & anger issues.
>>739693605Neither did the haters honestly. There's mental illness on both sides
>>739693562>fuck /v-BOOM
>>739693327>>739692120
>>739693204Chara? With another human? She would never!
>>739693678Actually, I'm normal. Everyone else is insane, and also all the same person, and also part of a conspiracy to gangstalk me here and on multiple other boards and websites.
>>739693470>Charatranny trying to pass the buckKill yourself
>>739693764*he
>>739693616Based cunnyGOD.
>>739693747That's not me faggot. I love monster tits
>>739693796The anti-human schizo genuinely acts like this.
>>739693943>damage controlling
How it feels to post in a Deltarune thread without being mentally ill
>>739693764But what if the other human was very cute and funny? What about that?
FUCK NIGGERSexcept Ralsei he's cool
>>739693764Chara would only with Frisk
/utg/ is laughing at us…
>>739692746BEFORE THIS THREAD DIE I MUST SAY I HATE HOW SUICIDAL PIXEL DOES PIXEL PERFECT MOVEMENT FOR THE SPRITES IN HIS ANIMATIONS DESPITE THE FACT EVERY PIXEL IN DELTARUNE CONSISTS OF 4 SUBPIXELS, THE GAME PIXEL RESOLUTION IS 320 BY 240 BUT THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION IS 640 BY 480 AND THE SPRITES MOVE FAR SMOOTHER BECAUSE OF IT, SUICIDAL PIXEL SHOULD INCORPORATE THIS INTO HIS PORN
>>739694107>/utg/see >>739662583
>>739694107It's over...
>>739694107I've seen what those motherfuckers get up to they're not better than anybody
>>739694107pot calling the kettle black. At least we fucking discuss the game (most of the time)
>>739694237liar. It's all fave this and what would fave do that
holy SHIT this thread is full of women, good LORD
