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I know we had this discussion a million times but now that the smoke has cleared and knowing the things we do know from chapter 5, we can talk about the "deflowering incident"
was it rape?
was it hot?
did it matter?
did she like it?
and lastly
what did toby fox mean with all of this?
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>>742363426
Yes to all
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vtuber-adjacent drama thread, this shit is so cringe
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Deltarune is going to be about Kris gender dysphoria
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>>742363426
This scene but Noelle's 300lbs
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>>742363639
>waaah waaah how dare a thread about a video game take a spot on my e-celeb and twitter post board!
shut up nigger. deltaGODS own this board
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WRfags, can you come to terms with normal route Noelle? If not, then you have no right to blame fans of normal route Noelle for hating WR Noelle.
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>after chapter 4 people assumed we used kris to rape noelle
>after chapter 5 it turns out we actually mindbroke noelle into raping kris
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>>742363426
Yes it was rape, but Noelle was not the victim.
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>>742363762
>how dare a thread about fictional vtuber-tier drama take a spot on my videogames board!
yes
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deltarune suffered from people elevating toby fox to godhood when he is a retarded game dev with as many quirks and flaws (and even more) as any other dev
A lot of his development choices are affect by the public's perception of him and the game
he also is probably a kinky as motherfucker, I am not sure if he is actually into the rape thing, but tasque manager is a bit too on the nose

this is all to say that toby fox actually meant to do the rape thing and took it back partially because he is a pussy and partially because the fans did not like it, as oposite to the devs of earthbound, yumi nikki etc who have some artistic integrity
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>>742363639
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>>742363895
>>742363867
so basically double rape, with one being "raped" by being forced to rape, and the girl being raped too
rape2
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From the fight with Pink we can glimpse that ghost Mew Mew hates school so I'm guessing she's a NEET femcel.
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>>742363867
>>742363895
>>742364074
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>>742364017
>OH MY GOD DID YOU KNOW NOELLE WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED?!
>OMG SISTER YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE NEW LORE, IT WAS ACTUALLY KRIS!!!
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>>742364005
>tasque manager
Designed by a guest artist, not Toby.
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>>742364005
I posted the wrong image by the way, it was supposed to be this one
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>>742363426
>was it rape?
Yes (you raped Kris)
>was it hot?
Yes (you raped Kris)
>did it matter?
Yes (you raped Kris)
>did she like it?
Yes (she wants to rape Kris)
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>>742364005
I mean ch. 4 weird route is a literal double suicide.
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>>742364005
>>742364193
No it's good anon. I'm actually gonna work on my shit now.
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>rapes Kris
>rapes Noelle
>rapes Gaster
your response?
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>>742364005
>and took it back
The rape is stronger than ever.
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>>742364314
God I'm so cool
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Susie is a darker who took dess's soul and used it to live in the light world
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>>742363895
>* The Shadow Crystals are far more than mere pieces of glass. In actuality, they contain a certain power.
>* "The power of lost dreams."
>* When a strong attachment is formed... when a dream is gripped tightly... and then broken off.
>* These... are the shards that remain.
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>>742364348
if anything Berdly would be Joshu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5NqO2v_xnY
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>>742363426
>was it rape?
Obviously, there's no two ways to interpret the scene.

Toby is a fag who bent the knee to avoid criticism - god only knows why
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>>742364314
Well.

I suppose I could start by killing all of their favorite characters and eating them.
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Iz Toby referencing "Very, very interesting" and "Darker yet darker" all the time him being a shit writer, genuine referemces or making fun of people that are invested in gaster?
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Kris is a girl. See: Aqua.
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>>742364536
all three
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>>742364536
He's had that shit set up since Undertale of course he's doing it genuinely. He's also a bit of a shitposter so sometimes he does it as a joke.
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>>742364363
this line and the face sprite on >>742363426 are my favorite things ever
toby fox is either a genius or accidentally awoken some either kink inside me
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Steal his look.
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>>742363426
Well, I guess the good Deltarune threads are over now and we're back to this. It's been fun everybody. See you next year
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https://files.catbox.moe/fufj5l.png
In case anyone is wondering exactly how long Asgore's penis is
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>>742364568
Who is The Cage then?
>inb4 the vessel
Kris IS the vessel and The Cage
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Why did she enjoy snowgraving Berdly? He was always trying to be a good friend to her.
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>>742364179
>toriel just lets kris rot in her room the entire day without checking up on her until the evening
what the actual fuck is her damage? hell, the only reason why she even bother to check up on kris is because susie was waiting right out front for her
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>>742364692
because she's a repressed psychopath
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>>742364005
Where did you get this picture of me?
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If "Toby Trolling on 4chan Theory" is right then the wings can't be just random non consequential line from Noelle, It had to be planned way before any of these chapters were made. Which means, Noelle is very likely to get wings at some point. She will be the Angel.
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>>742364692
there's nothing wrong with him he's just annoying.
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>>742363667
What would that change?
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>>742364672
Impressive.
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>>742363426
>Was it rape
I don't think Kris physically fucked Noelle sadly, but it's definetely the imagery of rape amd the deflowering was a great imagery, I fucked Noelle out of her innocence, and it's even more clear with chapter 5. Toby is a hack for walking back on it
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>>742364568
Kris is *theyfab
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>>742364536
>being a shit writer
If you're retarded
>or making fun of people that are invested in gaster?
If you're retarded and insecure
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I'm disappointed in the secret bosses. The fights and music are great, but after Ch2 Toby ran out of ideas for new characters. Ch3's is an early battle with the game's main antagonist, and 4+5 both recycle undertale characters. I guess he knew Spamton was the peak and so there wasn't much reason to keep going in that vein, but I was hoping for at least one more.
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>>742364717
shes a bad mom
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>>742364692
Everyone hates Berdly. People in town don't even give a fuck that he's basically catatonic now in the WR.
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>>742364685
kris somehow managed to change roles from the girl to the cage
the prophecy doesn't care who does what, only that the words written come to pass
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>>742364692
We told her to proceed.
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>>742364661
honestly I'm just here now for collecting noelle art so please post more anons
whether it be wholesome 100 art or the rapening art I'll take it
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>>742364692
Nice guys finish last
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>>742364692
>* IF YOU'VE [[Lost Control Of Your Life]]
>* THEN YOU JUST GOTTA GRAB IT BY THE [[Silly Strings]]
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>>742364749
the wings references the roaring knights bird form
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i think after deltarune toby should try writing novels unrelated to UT or DR i would like that :)
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>>742364672
Flaccid btw
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>>742364692
in one hand he was an annoying ass
on the other, by the point she was in weird route in chapter 5 she probably did not care about anyone that was not as interesting as kris in her point of view, so it was less about berdley but more about the feeling of control, i would assume
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>>742364764
>Toby is a hack for walking back on it
he didn't, kris was the raped, see >>742363895
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>the bad writing is deliberate!
>toby will pull the rug on suselle fans in the last 2 chapters!
>weird route will lead to the good ending!
Please stop hurting yourselves, your copium habit has got out of control.
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>Deltarune vs Undertale characters
>Toriel & Asgore is played straight with a small twist
>Undyne is played straight as the second in command
>Alphys goes from scientist to teacher
>Ghosts are still the same
>Lots of secondary characters are the same
>Sans is the same (maybe)
>Asriel is ____________
Ralsei is going to pull a flowey. he wants (you) to hoard all the darkners in his dark world. aka he wants their hopes and dreams that gave them purpose. just like flowey wanted the boss monsters all clogged up to steal their soul and everyone else's souls (except napstablook fuck him) to power up.
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>>742364692
it wasn't because it was berdly specifically, she doesn't even mention him iirc, it's specifically the power she gains from casting snowgrave at all is what she wants
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>>742364823
Then Kris is not a girl
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>>742364151
Someone should behead Susie. Why is our vessel such a fucking loser.
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>>742364494
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>>742364193
>emontinal manipulation

ha! noelle is even crazier than the player in the weird route, and refuses to let you back out.
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>>742364887
>>742364753
You can't just kill people because they're annoying...
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>>742364717
She's a shitty parent
Kris could be dead and it would take her days to notice.
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>>742363426
>was it rape?
I don't care.
>was it hot?
Mildly. Maybe.
>did it matter?
Probably not.
>did she like it?
Clearly.
>what did toby fox mean with all of this?
I think it's explained pretty clearly at the lake.
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>>742364661
yeah that's what happens when 95% of the recent release is derpy xD shit
see you in 2030
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>>742364661
Noelle has hated everyone in town since Dess left. she says none of them are interesting and just follow their destined paths completely unaware of it. Noelle says she was doing the same thing but at least she knew she was. she thinks she's above everyone and apparently she is after figuring out whatever happens when we go into the lake after what? A whole sixteen hours of figuring out the truth to their world.
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>>742364846
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>>742364314
>gets raped by noelle in chapter 5
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>>742364780
>and 4+5 both recycle undertale characters
Spamton NEO is just recycled Mettaton NEO
It was explicitly made with the intention of "doing a real Mettaton NEO fight"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlIj7rYfMYM
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NINE ELEVEN THE TOWER MAN
DECLARING WAR IN AFGHANISTAN
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>Berdly is a straight nerdy guy that help at hos lacal library and wants tocplay video game with his friends
EWWWWWW KILL HIM
i hate toby
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujCHr6pHkVs&t=3s

Has anyone post this? Jesus. Krisellers keep winning
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>>742364692
What a SOULcock can do to a (((lesbian)))
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>>742364685
The vessel is a fake Kris meant to distract us, while the real Kris is doing shit off screen. The similar game Toby was talking about was Metal Gear Solid V btw
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>>742364607
>look up image source
>someone's bitching in the comments about noelle being nude
>artist spoonfeeds him about it being a CSM reference
>"b-but it still rubs me the wrong way"
>check his profile
>persona fan
every time
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>>742363426
YOU CAN'T UNRAPE THE DOE TOBY
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Battle Against a Cute and Funny Opponent
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>>742364661
take care until 2030 anon we've been left with even less to speculate on during chapters 3&4. at least take solace in that Kris is probably going to betray Susie next chapter so we can help them get some payback even though they'll be complaining and whining and crying the whole time
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>>742364846
cute angry doe
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>>742363426
>was it rape?
No. You'd have to be retarded to see it as such besides just talking about it for the memes.
>was it hot?
Not really. Unless you find women being petrified hot.
>did it matter?
Sure. It induced a pretty big change in Noelle.
>did she like it?
In this new chapter she admitted that deep down she wanted it. She also explained why.
>what did toby fox mean with all of this?
I have no idea. I can pick up on some thematic ideas and hazard a guess what weird route is about, but I don't think it will be made entirely clear until the whole game is out. For now it's just weird.
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>>742364179
>doe raped him so bad he cried himself to sleep
What did she do to him?
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>>742364692
It didn't matter who she iced, just that she felt strong doing it.
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>>742365051
You definetely too a whiff off that shadow crystal crackpipe
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>>742365017
yeah i know but spamton was new, his song and speaking style and story were all new.
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>>742364179
>Forced (you) into his machinations
>Is happy to lie non stop to everyone around him by hiding the truth
>Will actually stab his teammates in the back if it gets desperate enough
>You're still supposed to be feeling bad for him
No sir every chapter just makes me want to hate him even more and think he's getting exactly what he deserves with a long walk off the beach into the surf.
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Chapter 5...
I am forgotten...
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What was your reaction to this scene?
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>>742364992
>Dihui Star Noelle and not A Certain Noelle
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>>742365121
She got out the strapon Dess used to use on him.
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>>742363426
>was it rape?
Yes, for Kris.
>was it hot?
Were you not there? Everyone lost their shit over it.
>did it matter?
Depends on how much of 7B Noelle's attention will be on struggle for freedom vs her relationship with Kris and also on how much of Kris's individuality will survive up to that point.
>did she like it?
Absolutely.
>what did toby fox mean with all of this?
We have no fucking idea. But hopefully it's one of the things he won't decide to vaguepost to oblivion.
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>>742364717
feels like this isn't the first time Kris has done this. she's probably used to his shit.
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Mew Mew dating, Mew Mew wedding
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>>742364717
Dogshit parent.
Toby really tried to cut her some slack with the spare key line but then does this lmao
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>>742363426
It wasn't rape.

It was a symbol of Noelle's "innocence" wilting away. But we learn in CH5 that said innocence was fake, since the "Noelle that does Noelle things" was a hated mask she was wearing.

Plus, I'd like to point out that the curtains at the windows were drawn in Noelle's room and that she was sitting close by. She intentionally created an intimate atmosphere.

And her final talk at the lake is the last piece of the puzzle - she was horrified and felt guilty, but at the same time elated and happy, because she WANTED someone to force her to change.
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Does Kris being the narrator work if he knows the "future"?
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>>742365225
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>>742365050
>Susie turned out to be even gayer than Noelle
I feel a little bad for Krusiefags
Just a little
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>>742365214
Need more bratty mantle blowjob porn
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>>742365214
We'll see a payoff for this. Remember Ramb had his body stolen. Hell be relevant again and I assume we may get an explanation on what was holding onto the shadow mantle.
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So let me get this deltatroon thing right. Kris is either the raped or the cucked? KWAB great routes gamers, keep it up.
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Can someone post unblurred portrait pictures of noelle underwater? If they exist that is and they aren't blurry on purpose
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>>742365273
>Does Kris being the narrator work
No.
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>>742365214
We will be reminded of him when we find his hiding place under the lake.
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>>742365225
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>>742364756
It's probably the most important change that could happen
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>>742365291
Susie in the Weird Route behaves completely differently than on the Normal Route.

When taking previous chapters into account, it's easy to see why - when Susie thinks that things are going her way, she becomes increasingly pushy, uncaring, and domineering.
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>>742365341
We're WORKING ON IT.
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I just played chapter 2. What's the general consensus on Spamton? I thought he was very memorable.
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>exactly 74 proceeds in the lake scene
>how to draw dragons is exactly 7 years and 4 months overdue
>74, a song composed by toby fox, details the story about 73 knights failing to rescue a princess, but just as the 74th is about to succeed the princess reveals she's a dragon and slays the 74th knight
>this very same song is played on the piano by kris in chapter 4
genuinely and unironically what the fuck is with the 74 connection? what does it mean? i feel like i'm taking crazy pills
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>>742365341
"Raped" in this context means "forced to metaphorically have sex with their rich and beautiful childhood friend who loves them"
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>noelle admits in the weird route that her usual self is a mask she loathes

how will this affect the susie noelle pairing in the norm route? will she crack or just dutifully wear the mask she hates.
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>>742365341
>Kris is either the raped
No, see >>742365268
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>>742365254
if toriel's used to it she should probably understand by now that kris is incredibly upset
it's her duty as a parent to comfort her child, not just abandon them for hours and make a pathetic excuse for a meal like honey toast for when they eventually come out
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>>742365341
he's both The Raped and The Cucked
the most raped and cucked protagonist in all of video games, perhaps
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>>742365225
I said something along the lines of
>Look what happened in Code Lyoko when they invited William, you dumb bitch!
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>>742364764
You don't know what "hack" means
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its so fucking cute im crying
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>>742364767
Noelle the type of girl to call Kris a fakeboy.
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>>742365426
It's the number of children Kris and Noelle will have
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>>742365171
Nah, I'm right. My dad works at Toby Fox and he told me the ending.
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>>742365347
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>>742365428
Dess is all of that, but also heterosexual and not willfully cucking him with his best friend.
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>>742365347
>>742301649
I cut one last frame that is visibly darker than the rest.
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>>742364862
Silly strings don't make for very good handlebars. Is Spamton stupid?
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>>742365426
This is the 74th time Kris has done this and he's going through the motions
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Currently pondering who in-universe set up the weird route for us to play through and why.
The fucked up route in Undertale was pretty straight-forward with you killing everyone you got your hands on, but weird route is so curiously specific that it only makes sense if the powers that be set it up in advance. Chapter 3 outright giving you instructions for it just further cements it.
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>>742365341
how bout you try to piece together vague posts from the cuckmaster supreme toby fox like the rest of us?

shit isn't easy.
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>>742365530
dess was deep in asriel's pants confirmed this chapter
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>>742365471
that might MIGHT be addressed in the aborted weird route where Noelle says nothing changed but still had the thorn ring or in the normal route when Noelle visits castle town and they try to go heal her dad or something and it fails
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>>742363850
Normal Noelle did not have opportunity to take the red pill. She's an explicitly incomplete version of the character, while WR Noelle got closer to becoming a complete person.
WR haters hate it because they're obsessed about Kris's well-being and want to rewrite the entire world he lives in to suck his dick, but especially give him a perfect tradwife they've created in their heads, not Noelle the canon character.
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Even Krisellers are jumping onto this new trend. I guess every guy wants a bad girl in the end?
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SAY IT
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>>742365408
Still memed and remembered half a decade later if that answers your question
Now stop reading these threads and go enjoy the game anon, you're just begging for hardcore spoilers by hanging around here
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>>742365493
Cute little girls that deserved better.
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I wish Toby made a porn game instead. Imagine the potential with how well he write mindbreaks
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>>742365471
I've said it in other threads, but I unirocally, 100% am convinced that the Normal Route will lead to the Bad Ending for the game, and that Noelle will have a complete crash-out in it.

She is about to discover that Susie is not the person she thought she was. She's a delusional romantic who wants to bury herself and stagnate in her own fantasies, something which to Noelle will be equal to Hell.

And on the Normal Route she has no alternatives, no dreams or glimpses of something better, darker, but more hopeful.
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>>742365623
Penis
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>>742365323
Do not indulge for too long
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>>742365426
>this very same song
Kris plays a song we haven't heard yet internally called "kris_piano_sevenfour" but the song itself is completely different from "74"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbzExv7wNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKI_MY0Bkw
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>>742365426
This one is one off, but the number feels too close to be a coincidence
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>>742365408
Still the best character from any chapter
Nobody will beat him
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>>742363426
>Was it rape
In a fashion
>Was it hot
Yes
>Did it matter
Yes
>Did she like it
Most definitely
>What did he mean by this
That Kriselle is for those with patrician tastes
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>>742365039
Cute
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>>742365471
aborted route already has noelle realizing that her thing with susie is not what she wants at all, it's one cage for another
normal will probably be more of a gradual realization, likely sparked by susie lying to her about the dark worlds and then trying to keep her in castle town because it's 'better' than reality
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>>742365225
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How she looks at you when you tell her to block her rapist
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>Noelle rejoins the party in chapter 6 aborted
>She still has SnowGrave
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>>742365595
it's interesting how nobody complains about fruity goat boy Asriel being undeniably straight in Deltarune
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Mmmm
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>>742365482
A seventh wheel.
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>>742365482
xana should've possessed Odd instead
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>>742365614
Its more of because the fact that Susie was such a major asshole in Ch5 that not even the most hardcore Susie wants to associate with here anymore.
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>>742365595
If Asriel is anything like in Undertale he's the gayest motherfucker who ever lived.

Asriel makes Ralsei look like he works construction and beats up fags on the weekend.
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>>742365645
Make your own MewMew date mod.
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>>742365679
Cock even.
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>>742365426
It's Toby Fox trying to do "le profound storytelling" because people thought Undertale's writing was profound. But Undertale was a fluke that made him high on his own farts, so now he's trying to do similar shit but it doesn't work, because it's all surface-level and doesn't work to support some central theme or thesis. It's just symbolism for the sake of symbolism.
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>>742365614
And Toby knew full well what he's doing, and that the Weird Route will be more INTERESTING than the others.
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>>742365645
How is there still no other game that has corruption of seemingly innocent church going girl like this?
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>starts chapter five
>see Reimu Susei
>See blue Rumia
>See LITERALLY PATCHOULI
IS THIS ENTIRE CHAPTER JUST TOUHOU REFERENCES?
Adding this to the theory pile; Toriel left Asgore because he's a fucking WEEB
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>>742363426
Yes.
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>>742365426
>>742365690
Should add by the way that this is the same room where Berdly tells you the book is 7 years and 4 months overdue. And Gaster's little takoyaki making buddy is there too.
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>>742365674
>I've said it in other threads, but I unirocally, 100% am convinced that the Normal Route will lead to the Bad Ending for the game
both normal and weird are bad ends, with weird sucking less
actual ending is route C where you go in between
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>>742365623
I LOVE MEWBIES
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>>742364846
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>>742365764
>some central theme or thesis
CH5 is all about people wearing masks and pretending to be someone else, at the very least.

>>742365787
It's not corruption. It's letting someone be her own person, the good and the bad.
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>>742365408
Still the best 1997
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>>742364692
She didn't enjoy snowgraving Berdley specifically. That part she is disgusted with herself by. She fucking LOVED the feeling of powers he had when wielding snowgrave in that moment though
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>>742365674
that's what we're hoping for but Toby has let us down before.
>not a mike lover here
thought Susie would avoid Noelle so the prophecy wouldn't happen but now I just have no idea
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>>742365798
surprised the bullet hell game has touhou references?
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>>742364568
At this point everyone in the Lancer Fan Club's trying to be The Girl so someone else don't have to die in the face of the final tragedy.
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>>742365645
nut dealer 2035 please believe
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>>742364005
>Pic
Don't you fucking dare post that at me. I actually did a few things. But ideas run out quickly.
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>>742364625
wrong thread
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>>742365748
Both of them fuck human men(me)
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>>742365815
Me on the right
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>>742365623
I HATE TV
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>>742365614
anon, we've been like this since we discovered chapter 2 weird route
wdym jumping onto this new trend???
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>>742365787
Terranigma ends with the cute girl next door choking a baby to death
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>>742365426
Also don't quote me on this one but IIRC between the 1st and 2nd MANTLE boards there's 74 enemies to kill. Might be wrong on this one and that one is likely a coincidence if true. But it could mirror the 74 proceeds.
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>>742365225
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>>742365821
Nope.
>Normal Route - Bad End
>Early Abort Weird Route - Neutral End
>Late Abort Weird Route - True End
>Weird Route - Alternative End

Also keep in mind that the Late Abort Weird Route still has all the Weird Route flags up.

Noelle IS GOING INTO THAT LAKE.
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>>742364497
I'm still mad.
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Give me a good Japanese Deltarune playthrough
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>>742365225
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>>742365739
aqua dumptruck...
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>>742365268
It wasnt Noelle’s innocence
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>>742364494
so kris does love noelle
is that kris' dream?, to be a couple with her?
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>>742365408
Piggybacking off of this, did it ever get expanded upon what did it mean when Spamton kept saying hyperlink blocked, what does it mean? also who was the person who made spamton go psycho? sorry my memory is just a bit hazy
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>>742365408
OUR KING SPAMTON G. SPAMTON
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>>742365985
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>>742365260
Mew Mew could've awakened Noelle with her mind control kissies
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>>742365871
>that's what we're hoping for but Toby has let us down before.
I know, but this time he's laying it on thick + have different routes interplay when it comes to that particular plot point.

I think his comment about the "last light-hearted chapter" was taking the piss out of people.
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>>742364992
Slop. Go back to your general >>>/vm/roblox
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i wish toby didnt use petal dance so much
atleast give it variants nigga, he already did it for blue/yellow/orange with Who Might You Be?
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>>742365924
What kind of Terranigma version have you been playing?
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>>742365225
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>>742365480
he's known for being mommas boy around school I think she coddles him too much and that's why he's a pussy
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>>742365541
[[Silly Strings]] is probably meant to be an actual serious reference to the "strings of fate" you see coming from Spamton NEO and MewMew
The JP translation changes it to a reference of to the "red string of fate" (with "red" omitted), an Asian legend of string connecting people to their fated love
>* It pulls the strings and makes them ring.
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>>742365519
>>742365536
ty anons
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>>742366032
[[Hyperlink Blocked]] = LOVE
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what happened to /v/hu?
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>>742366003
Is the item in the game or datamined?
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why does Papyrus and Mew need crime statistics display. What did Toby mean by this
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>>742365225
>Susie, this can't just be a me and you thing
>I am taking MewMew with us next time
>Also... check out this DinoGag armor I got just for you
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>>742365623
I'M FALLING
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>>742366050
F-Furaurii-sama... I, the Roaring SISSY, KNEEL!
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Is it really OK for us to be keeping this rapeape around still? He wants to kill us all so fucking bad.
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>>742363426
QRD?
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>>742365727
Your perception has been distorted by porn. Asriel was never "fruity" in undertale, he was a literal little boy of course he's not gonna be manly
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>>742366035
i need a hot gamer boyfriend
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>>742365225
>Oh yeah I'll bring Berdly too, he was dope in the Cyber World
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>>742365565
It's not a coincidence that Chapter 5 has like 5 different invocations of "dark secrets you shouldn't look into" being called "[very, very] INTERESTING"
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>>742365225
I'm probably one of the 10 people who remembered that Susie is supposed to be a sociopathic asshole, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
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>>742365426
So Kris has looped 73 times
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>>742363426
I hate to say it folks but

Jevil stocks WAY DOWN

Freedom motif and voice clips aren't good enough anymore. The latter schizobosses clean him up.
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>>742366000
patient souls are known for having impressive rears
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>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
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>>742366174
he's like chained dog, once out he'll won't know what to do and will just stumble around
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>>742366143
In UT you can kill monsters
In DR people are getting kidnapped
Assuming those two are crimes in each world of course
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She wants to talk at the lake
I've got bread in my hands

NIGGA HEIL GASTER
NIGGA HEIL GASTER
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>>742366143
Both aspiring royal guards and Mahou Shoujo need to stop crime.
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>>742366029
It was at some point, at the very least
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>>742366194
>QRD
Dude, you are like over decade worth of secret hunting, data mining and theory crafting behind. There is no QRD.
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Am I retarded? Why did people start assuming the story is a time loop after chapter 5?
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>>742366047
where can i watch it
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>>742366195
yet he used his ultimate power to transform himself into an edgy twink instead of literally anything else
it is a bit gay you must admit
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>>742364895
"only one knows its meaning" IS him walking back on it
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>>742365945
I don't think so. I counted using the map on the wiki and there are 42 enemies on the first board.
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>>742366096
toriel puts on a show of being a good parent in public but is borderline neglectful in private
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>>742366143
Why would you go on a date to a crime infested shithole?
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>>742366143
Why do either of them need a Dog Radar
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>>742366143
Mew Mew knew Blue was around, look away one second and the next all the Purple Phanta and Fried Pipis is gone
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>>742366320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKk
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>>742366241
And so we are back at Black Souls II.
Sasuga Toby
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>>742366242
>knows about the rules of the world
>gives himself insane stats
>voice clips, teleporting, isnt even a darkner or lightner
Cannot believe Flowery didnt have a freedom motif
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>>742366362
Undertale had a lot of dogs in Snowdin
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>>742366234
that was supposed to be a facade anon! she's always been a cinnamon roll deep down...who'd willingly use her supposed best friend to get closer to the girl she likes, while also bullying them before hand, and also being jealous of their mom...
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>>
SO IN CONCLUSION-

Kris thinks of Berdly as an alternate festival companion.
Ralsei is STUNNED into silence and judges their tastes.
Kris becomes insistent that their taste is not that bad okay.
Ralsei wishes them luck with their ugly ass (potential) boyfriend
WR: Kris could be insistent and RELIEVED they'll be spending their time with him instead of continuing the Noelle Torment™
"Go with Berdly"

Kris flusters Berdly by being genuine and forward...or flirting-
Berdly is in denial and basically playing hard to get by making it a competition
Berdly doesn't reject them and wishes them luck.
"Sing the Wrong Number Song"

Kris pranks tf out of Berdly and he rages; wins "fell for it again" award
Berdly claims he's got game and potential suitors (this is being fact checked)
Berdly claims Kris WILL fall for his charm and drops banger pick up line
Fact check says Berdly might have game AND a suitor
Berdly cannot understand actual romance for SHIT and Kris is struggling to get it through his thick skull that they're down to go on a festival date. It's totally fine dude. Berdly plays hard to get. Or thinks Kris wants to play hard to get. They should just kiss.
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>>742366362
Papyrus don't want his bones stolen and Mew is a cat.
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>>742366029
>>742366314
They both have a connection that's deeper than just a crush, or even love.

Just compare how ecstatic Noelle is on the Weird Route, when Kris is the one changing her, in comparison to Susie on Normal Route, where half the time she has a fake smile and constantly thinks about Kris.
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>>742364529
>always thought its just a big head and torso
>its just a slouching bird and what i thought is his mouth are in fact his hands
this shook me more than the ending
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>>742365408
he's the eternal GOAT
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>>742366241
No wonder he slashing tires and eating moss 'n shit.
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I'm starting to get really worried about Papyrus guys. Where the fuck has my nigga gone?
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>>742366032
[[Hyperlinked Blocked]] doesn't have a consistent meaning, fill in whatever buzzword you want. LOVE, freedom, SOUL, power.
>who made spamton go crazy?
We don't have an answer, but it was almost certainly "FRIEND," the creepy face with pink-and-yellow eyes that's been stalking us since we first see it in Spamton's basement in Chapter 2
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>>742365687
I know there's a piano in the hospital too but I highly doubt at this point that Chapter 6 will take place anywhere else but Noelle's mansion
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>>742366259
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>>742363568
FPBP
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>>742366486
Anon...
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>>742366357
I think it's shitty that she divorced asgore so easily, especially when he clearly still loves her.
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>>742366424
Susie's evil is pretty consistent, despite what people may say.

No matter the chapter, the more things go her way, the more obnoxious, selfish, cruel and assholish she becomes.
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>>742366174
Anyone else have no idea what the fuck he was talking about when he mentioned his "scar"
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>>742366514
They've totally knelt to deltachad threads, probably because they bring so much traffic and Mook told them to keep them up
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>>742366486
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Deltarune "hard bosses"
>Jevil - 18 tries
>Spamton Neo - 1st try
>Knight - 9 tries
>Hammer of Justice - 2 tries
>Pink - 2 tries

Only Jevil felt genuinely difficult.

Meanwhile in Undertale
>Genocide Undyne - over 100 tries
>sans - 25 tries
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>>742366495
TAKE THAT
TASTE THE PAIN
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>>742363426
Are there any good vocal covers of FLOWER MAN? the shitpost Janny Man catbox had better vocals then all the front page of youtube
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Deltarune but it's a ps2 game with Haunting Grounds physics.
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LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS AND VALUE, VALUE THE FUN!
(BRUSH THOSE THEORIES OFF NOW, OUR MYSTERY, MYSTERY MAN!)
ALL THOSE PLAYERS NEVER TREAT ME RIGHT THEY HAVEN'T SEEN,
(WHAT I TRULY MEANT ON MY OLD ENTRY SEVENTEEN!)
AYE, WE PLUNDER ROOT BEER AND OF COURSE WE PLUNDER ALE
(WE KIDNAPPED ALL OF DELTARUNE AND WE'VE STOLEN UNDERTALE!)
BUT HO! WE CHANGED OUR TARGETS, OUR HEAVEN IS IN SIGHT,
(WE'LL STEAL YOUR HOME FOR GOOD AND TAKE YOUR HOLY LIGHT!)
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How to find ch5's egg?
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>>742366320
Some variation of "time loop" theory has been a thing forever
It's never gotten much traction
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>>742365623
I LOVE TV!
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>>742365225
Kris tried so hard not to drag Noelle into this mess. Susie, you're a dumb fucking lizard...
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>>742366590
Jannies are removing deltarune threads left and right to make more space for GTA6 astroturfing campaign.
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>>742366583
His face. It has a little cut on it. Probably translates to a tear in the card in the light world.
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MY FUARKIN HERO
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>>742366615
having 3 turns in a row to heal really helps
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>>742366615
I think you've just improved at video games
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>>742366615
you just got good at the gameplay thanks to your experience
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>>742366623
Does anybody know how to get to the lake?
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>>742366259
>NOOOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON THE VIDEO GAME BOARD IT'S FOR TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAME COMPANIES IN THE SAME 3 TWITTER SCREEN SHOT THREADS ;_; PLS TALK ABOUT ASMONGOLD
f a g g o t
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>>742366674
weeat
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>>742366615
It's crazy to me that people struggle more with Undyne than Sans. Undyne took me like ten tries at most, meanwhile I still haven't beaten Sans to this day
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>>742366560
can you fucking blame me, we first see him in undertale as a creepy gray guy, i thought is supposed to be a smile
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>>742365426
noelle is the fucking dragon, she is going to kill us bros
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>>742366029
yes, what kind of love it is at this point, i have no idea
it can be said with certainty that if the incident on that day never happened kris and noelle 100% would've been a thing
i should also mention that when noelle starts ranting about how much she hates hometown and how she's just been watching her life go by through glass since dess left, her memories with kris would be an exception due to happening before that when she was still herself
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>>742366620
imagine going back in time and posting this will he chapter 5
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>>742366615
I took 2 tries for Jevil he was honestly easier than most hyped him up to be
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>>742364913
I feel like this is the single moment in the game that has been memed the hardest and the fastest. I don't think I've seen such unity in the opinion the wider fanbase has of a specific scene, absolutely everyone despises Susie in this moment.

Well, except maybe some Suselle losers who are so yuribrained that they can now never accept that Susie will ever be in the wrong about anything ever again, so they try to downplay it. But even the majority of Susellefags I've seen in other sites will still admit that was a dick moment.
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>>742365225
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>>742365878
I'm surprised it's so on the nose. Like it's not even a nod to it, it's literally just bargain bin touhou.
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>>742366751
Erm actually /v/ is for the gay erp threads you don't know?
Get
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>>742366615
Undyne was insane, never found sand particularly hard
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>>742366764
Undyne is the filter, she's the second most difficult boss in the game after steamrolling the game for the most part.
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>>742366335
I'd think of it more as a "Sasuke" type of edgy anime character visual if anything (which a kid would like). Looks pretty normal in the in-game art, it's more the fans that gayfy him
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>>742366764
I think Undyne is technically harder
Sans is mostly endurance and his attacks aren't hard to memorize
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>>742366627
Repost? I missed this
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>>742365809
>>742365426
what the fuck does it MEAN
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>>742366615
I remember being stuck with undyne for so long I replaced her theme in game files with Row Row Fight The Powah and other meme songs because I was just so bored of listening to her theme over and over.
For me Knight was the hardest and on par with Sans. Jevil right after them.
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>>742365225
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>>742366029
>so kris does love noelle
Yeah
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>>742364904
weird route won't lead to the good ending, it just won't lead to an ending that's noticeably worse than the normal route (and the things that are bad about it will be hot also)
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>>742365225
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>>742365408
Literally the best part of the game
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>>742366763
I just destroyed all the wheat in one of those places where you run between two gates.
What now?
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>>742366767
It's the face. He's in disguise to look like a bird. He starts by blocking you off from lore, and later starts killing NPCs.
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>>742366680
>It's never gotten much traction
it's literally the story of undertale and the game acknowledged the menus as diegetic story elements. it's all but confirmed
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>>742366674
>ON SUNDAY, I HARVEST THE WHEAT.
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>>742366318
Can you give me a tl;dr then?
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>>742366174
Dude couldn't take us when we had like 70hp. We have like 250 now.
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>>742366764
sans is literally a platformer
Undyne is on par with some of the easier Touhou extra stages
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>>742366507
damn thanks for the response anon, I wonder who that friend will end up being, thought it would be more hinted at by now but i guess we'll have to wait some years for an answer
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>>742366908
Forced friendship btw
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>>742365798
If I got to work with ZUN after being heavily influenced by him I'd also throw a bunch of references to him
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>>742366796
Yurifags are currently melting down over CH5, because even their pea-brains have finally registered that the pairing in Normal Route is just a monkey's paw scenario - it's made painfully obvious that none of the girls loves the other, and is only drawn to a mask each is wearing.

And the moment Noelle sees what Susie plans for them, it's over.
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>>742366032
I think hyper link blocked means choices. It seems to make the most sense for when it is used and he never says the word "choices" if i'm remembering correctly
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kid named getic
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>>742366992
It'll probably be longer than that.
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>>742366620
Is Goku suppose to be (Me)?
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>>742365739
Honestly, just fucking Aqua or Mew Mew would result in a happier end for Kris than the now cursed Krusie or Kriselle.
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>you thought you saw through your hand
>You thought you saw your mother holding someone else
kris doesn't want to exist
>You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly
>You thought you saw Susie in a far-off window, unkempt and glaring
resentful of susie
>You thought you saw Noelle close against you, whispering
Likes noelle

>You thought you saw Undyne frozen in ice.
i dunno
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>>742366032
LOVE (Level Of ViolencE)
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>>742366796
Probably cause the one time Kris is about to have some appreciation from someone in the chapter they rug pull. Then they do it at the very end again. Quite amazing in fact, makes Bahamut Lagoon seem more merciful cause at least you can romance the old man on that one, Kris can't even have Berdly lmao.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kq_4xNpfPM
truly, your best nightmare
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>>742366259
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>>742366930
might want to make sure, might be some left
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>>742365225
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>>742366148
MewMew would just solo the game
She's like the perfect tank with nigger bomb attacks you ain't doing shit friend/seam
But no bring Noelle Susie just so you can goon together in the closet
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>>742366979
I seem to recall that fight ending with everyone ready to die before the entire literal kingdom overthrew him.
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>>742365214
>People still think Friend is just Eram's slave
THE MOST relevant
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>>742366032
>>742366507
If there were ever a theoryslop video to watch, it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0A2tUahASo
[Hyperlink Blocked] hands-down means LOVE, in the various ways toby uses that word
>Toriel/the school board censored it (sadie hawkman's dance)
>You get it when you get stronger, you especially make it on weird route ch2
>Spamton never, ever says love at any point in his dialogue, while he does say shit like freedom and SOUL and power
>The organikk asking "Haven't you heard of LOVE?" in second sanctuary foreshadows the LOVE prophecy, not to mention all of chapter 5
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>>742366930
Keep going between the gates and cutting the one patch of wheat that keeps respawning.
Do it enough times and a balloon pops out and floats left toward the shop.
Follow that and you're in.
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>>742366050
Yoink.
>>742363961
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>>742367056
>makes Bahamut Lagoon seem more merciful

Anon, in that game the maids tell the protagonist Yoyo must be sick, because they hear her moaning painfully in her room.
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>>742367086
kek
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>>742367002
hyperlink blocked means that you leave the current location/setting/framing/reality but since the game is "sandboxed" that's not possible and therefore blocked. the whole weird route spiel is the exploration if the sandbox can be escaped or not
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>>742367026
who else would you be?
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>>742366050
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>>742366983
>sans is literally a platformer
makes sense, I'm complete shit at any platformer harder than bing bing wahoo
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>Lancer is now FUCKING homeless

Bravo Susie.
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Why does this zesty goat wear makeup?
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>The song "Don't Forget" consists solely of vocals and piano.
>Noelle is a good singer
>Kris is good at playing the piano
>The text fits pretty well with what's happening in WR Chapter 5
Noelle is the one singing this song to Kris.
https://youtu.be/YLeid-bIRQA
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>>742365519
is the personal space invader noelle pic real? I hope she's breaking the fourth wall
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>>742367070
I feel like this is the wrong type of trumpet...
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>>742366032
[hyperlink blocked] is any kind of malicious site. Ads, viruses, gore, 4chan, just the worst kind of shit you don't want to visit, but he keeps trying to make you click it anyway.
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>>742367207
i NEED to kiss him
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>>742367086
I don't get it
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Every time I look at the catalog there's a thread about the mom from andy of coffin and leyley I think it's okay for deltarune to just have a place on /v/
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>>742364607
tity
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>>742367172
what if it turns out the knight isn't actually our enemy and them and Kris are just being tight lipped and want to give us our vessel back when they have what they want?
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>>742366950
>it's literally the story of undertale
Which is a different game.
SAVEing and loading are an afterthought in Deltarune, we're not even the one in charge of it.
>the game acknowledged the menus as diegetic story elements
And therefore... time loop?
If the power to SAVE diegetically lies with the player then you've confirmed Deltarune cannot be like Undertale, because we haven't gone through this story dozens of times and nothing meaningfully changes if we try.
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>>742363426
The implied suicidal ideation and behavior susie says she did in the festival obviously points to it but the shit about Noelle gaining agency and drowning the both of them in the lake obviously points to Toby changing snowgrave (if literally everything from the board game that was foreshadowed getting thrown out in exchange for "Side B" wasn't proof enough) and giving up on making anything that could say something or impact the player. 0/10 tumblrslop
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>>742367207
To seduce (You), the player
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>>742367206
hes just a boy
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>>742367000
Noelle will have no meltdown in Normal. She was not freedompilled nor murdered Berdly nor froze more than a few darkners tops. For all intents and purposes she's a weak-willed NPC that will act exactly as others demand of her - in this case Susie.
She'll probably become absolutely miserable due to Rudy situation, but that won't be anywhere near enough to turn her against the party.
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>>742367223
Noelle's voice sounds quite mature.
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>>742367142
>not some variant of "OH BOY THAT MAKES ME THINK OF NOELLE"
not my soos
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>>742366143
Papyrus wants to be a royal knight and royal knights stop crimes or something
Mew Mew is rapable so needs a rape radar
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>>742367086
lmao
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>>742367331
that is the worst case scenario, yeah. noelle crashing out would be kinography of the highest order
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>>742367206
I can almost pretend to forgive the NTR shit Susie did to Kris
But ditching Lancer? This means war
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>>742363426
It was the shattering of the glass Noelle was looking out from behind
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>>742367207
he's a royal prince of the dark.
who's the king of castle town then? (You)?
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>>742367056
Bahamut Lagoon is more "merciful", but it's not for that reason. It's more merciful because despite losing his childhood crush, Byuu still grows from the experience and becomes happy finding himself and reaching heights no one else can even dream of, while Palpaleos gets fucking murdered and Yoyo gets to live alone after pushing everyone else out.

In Deltarune, Kris is just driving off a cliff in slow motion for reasons we have yet to discover.
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>>742367261
Bringing in people to ruin a good thing.
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>>742366958
In Deltarune you control SOUL that is controlling Kris, a high schooler. And in one of the routes you use the fact that as a player you can read thoughts of other characters to mindbreak his childhood friend and make her stronger in RPG sense. Kris desperately tries to undone all of this by taking control from you, but if you take the control back in the right time, you can force him to force her to equip the RPG equipment back, and then the game cuts to black, visualizing it as a red rose that loses petals. Considering it's very pixelated and the literal sense of deflowering some people assumed this was rape symbolism.
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lol
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>>742367389
me on the top right!
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>>742367331
She will absolutely have a meltdown. Susie is literally the last person she clings to on that route, thinking that she really is the violent, assertive, rebellious bad girl that will force her to change.

Instead she's the biggest NPC of them all, and wants to live in an even BIGGER illusion than Hometown.

>>742367414
She'll burn Castle Town to the ground on Normal Route. Either that, or silently disappear, with the last shot of CH6 being her entering the lake alone.
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>>742367282
>nothing meaningfully changes if we try.
snowgrave route is a textbook example of the player metagaming through the savegame system
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We never really talk about UNDERTALE these days, do we?
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>>742367143
Yes but at least you're allowed to pick the joke option, Sendak. That game also sucks, but at least Palpaleos dies at the end so its ok. Yoyo is just about as bad as Susie though too bad she doesn't die aswell.
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When the game is finally finished, I would bet anything that Toby comes out and admits he never planned ANYTHING from the start and instead flew by the seat of his pants, molding each next chapter specifically to shit on the most popular theories and seem smarter.
Deltarune is structured the way it is specifically so he can do that.
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>>742366995
Yeah, by Noelle (in her imagination).
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>>742367086
>guys this is my new girlfriend, yoko onoelle, she has great ideas to bring to the band
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>>742367485
Well we're more focused on the new hotness
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>>742365787
it's not corruption. It's clear that Noelle was hiding that side.
love the fangs. pricks the fight or flight button inside my dick.
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>>742365225
I didn't really react to it, I guess I didn't get the significance of it at first.
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>>742367331
I fucking detest the fact this might be how it all plays out. That Noelle is just going to stay the weak, submissive doe right up until the end and the only way to make her interesting at all is mindfucking her in another route.
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>>742367485
Undertale is completely exhausted beyond context it gives to Deltarune.
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>>742365408
we stand for the flag
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>>742367207
He killed millions...
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>>742366796
>I don't think I've seen such unity in the opinion the wider fanbase has of a specific scene, absolutely everyone despises Susie in this moment.
Everyone can immediately intuit that this is no misunderstanding or accident but rather a deliberate act of spite and cruelty toward Kris.
It's not merely Susie running her dumb mouth at the worst possible moment in a missed comedic beat, she comes up with a lie on the spot just to screw Kris over.
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>>742366729
First, you're gonna wanna get in your car
then, you're gonna wanna start your car
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>>742363639
Y
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>>742367520
>Noelle doing screeching Christmas songs
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>>742367480
some anon posted ch6 castle town sprites, shops covered in snow. Could it be part of her snowdown or just a little setdressing to fit her holiday style?
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>>742367207
>I...I could be a princess for you if you want, Kris
Goddamnit just make Ralsei a girl already
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>>742366431
My FUARKING jarona!
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>>742366983
>sans is literally a platformer
His literal hardest attack (gaster wheel, the one most difficult to consistently not die to) isn't.
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>>742367560
No, that other anon is right - their entire relationship in CH5 is just a countdown to disaster.

Toby even made sure that KRIS ISN'T THERE when Noelle is shown just show catastrophically wrong she was about Susie.
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>>742366637
CHIPS AHOY!
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>>742367509
Chapter 5 certainly gives that impression.
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>>742367569
Is this worth watching? I thought it was just an ad for merch.
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>>742367485
i mean what do you want us to say? chara a cute? everybody knows that already
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>>742365225
I just can't get over the fact so many tumblarinas think suselle is being presented as a good thing in the story. I think I get why people go on so much about media literacy being dead.
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>>742367485
It was used up.
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>>742366958
deltarune is like post undertale
ch 1 you become friends with a dino and beat the big bad at school dark world which is a card
all this because of some prophecy that says the hero will seal all these worlds
ch 2 you beat the big bad at cybers world, and take another friend with you who was a missing sister and a mom who's suspected of being the big cheese, you can also begin to mind break your deer friend if you're a wicked nigga
ch 3 you got on a mario party world with you friend the television and hes the big bad cause no one watches him anymore cause the family split apart
ch 4 you go to church and destroy the biggest bad, the titan, and learn more about a prophecy which ends up with the big sacrifice (suspected to be the player giving his life or some shit like that), you also go to the deers house and see his mom who is suspected of being the biggest bad (not the titan)
ch 5 is where we are today you go to a festival and try to learn about an underground bunker, and then fight some cute flowers cause they wanna cheer up your dad whose depressed cause of some incident that happened and is talked about in 5 chapters but not detailed what it is, and in the evil rought you drown with the deer

thats the QRD hope you enjoyed it
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>>742364672
10 inches flaccid
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>>742366504
Better question: how does Kris know about funny bone? He never met him
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Flowery is good and all, but this shit has been in my head non stop for the past 3 or so days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii81enXEL6g
So goddamn catchy
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>>742367571
With fire magic right? Wasn't Gerson turned into ash too? I bet it was Ralsei.
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>>742367605
>she comes up with a lie on the spot
eh, the fact that Kris keeps flirting with enemies is pointed out as a joke multiple times in this chapter
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>>742367569
o7
God bless Spamton.
>>742367657
It is absolutely worth watching.
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>>742367657
definitely worth it, it's pretty short but really funny
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>>742367509
What do you guys get out of deluding yourself like this
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>>742367443
I see
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>>742367094
Only because he sneak attacked everyone after Ralsei healed him. He was literally on his knees and begging for Mercy before then.

Besides, if you choose Violence in Chapter 1, Ralsei just one shots him with a sleep spell afterwards anyway.
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>>742365498
Stop I can only get so erect
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>>742367694
You do.
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>>742366362
dogs are a menace. that fucking white mutt keeps spiking you
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>>742363568
it is so fucking funny to me this is highly likely to be the real answer
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>July 30 2025
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>>742367485
Yeah like tell me how to beat Sans.
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>>742367749
I don't believe that. Not even a little bit. He might have planned a couple bullet points, but the way each chapter is written is too reactionary.
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>>742366486
In his Goner form he IS just a big head and torso with a giant mouth
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>>742367783
When
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>>742367694
Fondling feral Netskie
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>>742364193
God, how little did we know back then.
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>>742367749
>my project manager thinks he has the work planned ahead for the next 14 years
lol, lmao, rofl even
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does anybody have this one comic of noelle on the susie date realizing that all of it was fake and shit
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>>742365214
Maybe one day..
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>>742367207
The perfect boy
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>>742367715
It's not a "fact" when it's false, you fucking tool. Words have meaning and Kris isn't Frisk.
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Where is the man who speaks in dicks
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>>742367650
>Toby even made sure that KRIS ISN'T THERE

I think this is something a lot of people miss. When Noelle discovers that her last hope of changing - Susie - is the worst NPC of the whole cast. When she finds out she wanted her to live in a literal delusion. When she finds out Susie wanted to isolate her from her family, including her DYING FATHER...

Kris won't be there. She'll be all alone, surrounded by fake people in a fake world.

And then this >>742367627 will happen.
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>>742367662
There was plenty of anons here who claim it is being presented as a good thing, and that’s bad. Same shit happened with CH4 despite the questionable signs there with Noelle downplaying her relationship with Kris just to impress Susie
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>>742367848
When you played Undertale.
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Is he the true embodiment of /v/?
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>>742367827
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>>742367797
Kys faggot
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>>742366029
Yeah, that is why we keep calling the game Bahamut lagoon 2
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>>742367485
I'm replaying it rn to remember it. Finished neutral run and will try fully completing geno, never beat sans before.
It's incredible that even Undertale has more interesting combat oriented playtrough than Deltarune. Weapons with unique gameplay to them, interesting fights that dont bog down into minigames stuff like that. The yellow soul sucks ass though, it's so bad in comparison to Spamton's version
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>>742367835
Uh huh
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>>742366610
>for me
i'm in love
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>>742367786
Mew-ORANGE!
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>>742367767
I see. I never tried violence. Guess he's no big deal.

>>742367832
He's very easy. You just have to wait him out. How many healing items you got?
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>>742367797
>Noelle: Wow she's a fucking pansy, she didn't even throw me in the water
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>>742363667
you're missing a few zeroes. she should've been 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000lbs
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>>742367480
>Susie is the biggest NPC
what happened over the course of one night that made her into early chapters Ralsei?
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>>742363426
yeah
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>>742367907
Deltarune, anon
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>>742367870
What would Eram be like as a party member?
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>>742367916
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>>742367901
>And then this >>742367627 # will happen.
normal route noelle is a fucking wimp with almost no power
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>>742367827
i didn't even think how fucked it is that asgore got kidnapped on top of the rest is
he's literally the character that treats kris the best
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>>742367963
She's unironically a dragon. She got everything she (thinks) she wants, and now wants to lock herself inside La La Land.

Kris is an obstacle at this point, because even a blind retard like her sees how much she's still into him. So he has to go.
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>>742367973
You played Undertale, and then you played Deltarune. That's how (You) know him.
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>>742367797
Move along, yurifag, this is Kriselle country
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>>742367627
my expectation is that it's part of susie's WELCOME NOELLE decorations, and suddenly christmas isn't going to bother her so much anymore
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>>742367509
He started with the ending in mind and likely had certain plot points and scenes planned from the earliest stages.

But the subplots for each dark world are definitely being made up along the way,
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>>742367996
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>>742367913
maybe it's /v/ from 2013 like the rest of the game is
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>>742367941
>Flowery foreshadowing all the way back in 2018
Tricky Tony...
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>>742367941
>OH WOW THIS VAGUEPOSTING THING FROM BEFORE CAME TRUE
No shit Sherlock, plus Toby can do that while still flying by the seat of his pants every chapter
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>>742367913
no, he should say boyfriend instead
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>>742367990
Constantly bum rushing the enemy and laughing
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>>742367990
she’d be covered in cum stains by me
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>>742368036
Which is why it will be an actual psychotic breakdown. She'll rage, she'll use ice magic through sheer anger and insanity, then she'll march into that lake.
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>>742368056
This is also reflected in many other options, like asking Alphys/Undyne about the other every time.
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>>742368075
Real yurifags ship Kriselle because Suselle has no angst
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>>742367990
An actual fire mage/summoner
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>>742366512
Toby mentioned that Chapter 6 is easy to make. It likely takes place entirely in the school supply closet Dark World, we'll see what the hell is going on outside of Castle Town.
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>>742368091
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>>742367658
i always found amusing how would flowery say glue just like that being irrelevant to the current situation, did i miss a joke or is it just a "lol random" thing?
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>after noelle sees susie fall into a fake fantasy and starts trying to hide there like a frightened child

I'm all in, I can't wait to see her heart shatter in real time.
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Remember, according to Toby Fox, self-inserting is bad unless you're a tranny catgirl. What an actual hack, what does he have against the players of his game having a character of their own they could have an adventure with?
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>>742363426
How do autistic people become so emotionally attached to such terrible drawings?
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>>742368159
that is true but I also think they're at their cutest when they're not in an angsty situation, I love happy normal kriselle I wish it wasn't so rare
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>>742367913
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>>742368171
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>>742367878
unfortunately there are certain bits and sections Toby clearly intends for you to take
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>the seething in this thread
>the wannabe janny
the power of this game mindbroke the staff
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>>742368179
>lol random
almost all his quotes are random shit
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>>742368091
>>742368171
even back then we knew berdly would be the bro that got kris outta there
little did we know susie would instantly go through dykamorphosis and tell him to fuck off for daring to try and take away their third wheel
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>>742368171
did you draw this anon?
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>darkness = water
>roaring = flood
>shelter = ark
Kris and knight aren't kidnapping his parents and other people because they are evil or something. Kris just wanted to save people he cares about. All is left is just him swooning Susie so he can grab Noelle, Dessknight and gtfo.
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>>742368171
>he tries to save kris from noelle in the normal route after her crashout
>he turns into a frozen chicken

kino
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>>742367835
He's had Mew Mew being associated with the flowers in mind since at least 2024.
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>>742368207
>tranny
Mad is a girl. Proof: her body has tits in the dark world
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>>742367662
I strongly suspect a lot of people online jumped on to make comments before reaching the end of the chapter. It does take a special level of tone deafness to not get the vibe being given by the ending.
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>rev up those fryers
4chan meme btw, he's here and can never leave
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>>742368159
Yurifags universally accept, no matter how much they bitch about it, that Kris is a teenage boy. Literally every aspect of him screams that. There is nothing feminine about him.
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>>742368229
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Blue is designed like this
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>Noelle meltdown
>Susie meltdown
>Ralsei meltdown
>Kris Oersted meltdown
Chapter 6 could truly be entertaining
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>>742368207
Mew Mew's double personality constantly hating each other only to reconcile and accept each other is foreshadowing Kris and the soul doing the same thing, though.
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>>742368207
Anon I think the mew mew fight was very much meant to be a parallel to Kris and Us and the way it ends is with both sides agreeing to work together as one person so I don't know why people keep expecting Toby to punish the player for wanting to be one with Kris
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>>742366174
i'd set him loose on susie's bedroom to give noelle a "surprise" as a thank you for the "kris flirts with everyone" favor

>>742366764
sans is about muscle memory, undyne demands reaction speed

>>742366692
susie went full retard this chapter
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>>742367207
Ralsei was always a girl but she crossdressed so that she would be the prince of the dark
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asgore runs over dess while drunk driving status?
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>>742366908
>>742366995
They may have been friends as kids, but Kris purposefully distanced himself after he realized what a fucking weirdo sadomasochist creep noelle is.
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>>742368108
>he's just making it up as he goes along bro
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>>742368312
i met gaster and they're enby
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>>742363656
I'm going to permanently unplug my router if that happens, the internet would never recover
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>>742368306

>>742368262
No, it's by snowflake18
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>>742368370
You fucking wish.
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>>742368361
FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
JUST FINISHED HIS LAST CAN
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>>742368108
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>>742368280
Still doesn't take away the fact that he made an actual propaganda game because he hates what i like about rpgs.
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>>742368320
Multiple people said it, and I agree - CH6 will focus on the various relationships within the party, and with the major NPCs, completely falling apart.

>>742368369
She also has horror and crime books in her room.
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>>742368280
ghosts hate their real body = tranny
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>>742368361
Surprisingly predicted that Asgore knew what Dark Fountains were and had violent ideas in mind for the perpetrator of THAT DAY...
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>>742368339
I think you could even argue that the routes in game so far are showing what happens when taken to extremes.
The normal route is giving Kris too much control. We don't know anything about them and their plans which is causing problems for everyone
The weird route is self explanatory, we have far too much control
The golden ending for this game is finding a balance.
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>>742366197
Yo...... haha.....
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>>742367996
>>742368091
>>742368171
>>742368229
>>742368306
>>742368398
Gayshit drawn by a troon. Go kill yourself.
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>>742368369
>That's the first request she has for Kris before she settles on suicide bathtime
Its gonna be Big O all over again isn't it.
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>>742367835
It's not lol. You fell for crackpot theories and when they turned to be false you blame Toby for subverting your idea of how the game will go. All of Deltarune major plot points were already decided at least after Chapter 2, but probably much earlier, possibly even before Undertale.
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>>742368398
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>>742367571
does cum in Dark Worlds become people? what if someone was pregnant in a Dark World, does the fetus become a metus?
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>>742368230
[Attack]
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>>742367905
>>742367662
>>742368283
I get where you anons are coming from but we're going to be at the chapter 7 epilogue at the suselle marriage and you guys will still use the "well you see it's actually meant to be a bad thing if you read between the lines" cope.

Suselle is clouding Susie's judgement but other than that she thinks it's the best thing to happen to her and Noelle does as well, and they are set up to be endgame anyway
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>>742368320
>Chapter 6 could truly be entertaining
that's what they said about 5
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>>742368451
Monster kid..............
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>>742367483
how
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>>742368398
>>742368481
Seems fun. Maybe I was too hasty in murdering Berdly.
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>>742368423
I clapped, Toby is a genius
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>>742368493
non-canon playthrough sorry
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>>742368481
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>>742368501
Nah once Toby said it was a filler chapter I greatly lowered my expectations
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>>742368362
He still loves her
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>>742368423
>* If you tell me to, I can do anything.
>* So... tell me, Kris.
>* The words... I've been waiting to hear.

>>Stop
>* Proceed.
>>Stop
>* Proceed.
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>>742368490
well, mew mew doesn't seem to be pregnant so i don't think so
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>>742368463
Anon the troons are primarily into suselle and maybe kriselle/krusie. Kerdly is a straight ship popular with actual females
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>>742368481
>>742368398
>>742368306
>god DAMNIT there's new Berdly art and it's fucking with him and KRIS and instead of SETH/PURPLE!?!?!?

GET THIS OBSESSED BIDDY A FEATHERED BOYFRIEND
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>>742367835
i think stuff like the real mike is reactionary, but he's also good at being reactionary in a way where it doesn't matter to the ongoing plot at all and making it come off as a red herring to something earlier in the game in the same stroke

it's hardly in the same grade as his mentor hussie's "I FEEL SO CAUCASIAN" bit
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>>742368053
The vs Susie theorists might be onto something that Susie is the true final boss of the normal route and not the weird route. real question is if we'll still be in Kris by that point
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>>742368573
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>>742368312
Blue looks like George Floyd.
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>>742368339
The whole "doesn't your body get to have a say" is all I need to hear. It's only the body's opinion that matters to Toby, not the opinion of the paying customer. I just want to beat the game, on my own terms without all this crawling and stalling and sabotage. Just play the game straight, thats all I want, and toby hates that and is directly trying to destroy it.
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>>742368619
i'm gay thou
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>>742366620
Fun fact: in the book, Stuart Little is a full-blooded human, his parents are his biological parents. He just happened to be mouse-shaped and mouse-sized. No one is surprised, it just happens sometimes.
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>>742368591
where is this line from?
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>>742368638
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>>742368619
>Kerdly is a straight ship
Shut the fuck up faggot. Kris is a boy.
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>>742367835
Lol what is this cope look at Chapter fucking 3 and tell me he didnt have it all planned out.
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>>742368678
aborted weird route
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>>742368678
mspaint
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>>742368338
I don't buy that it's foreshadowing for the simple fact that Kris just doesn't react to anything that happened to her
Even in the cafe scene all he does is throw out a peace sign when you tell her you flirt with everyone
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kris' a girl
>>742368726
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>>742364568
Anon I beg of you DO NOT give these writers an excuse to add more troon bullshit
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>>742365426
>genuinely and unironically what the fuck is with the 74 connection? what does it mean?
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>>742364767
i will drop the game immediately if this shit ends up being true
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>>742368619
>>742368726
Kerdly is the rare schrödinger ship
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>>742368591
I still don't get if the dialogues choices are Kris' thoughts or (You)rs
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I made a comic
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>>742368725
End.
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>>742368434
Everything = tranny with them
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>>742368230
>Kris visibly shakes after Susie and Ralsei comment on this
he’s suffering so fucking hard with his feelings, christ
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>>742368651
>plays Deltarune and wants it to be regular JRPG
Lol lmao
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>>742368808
kris
you dont get to have opinions in this game
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>>742367913
Didn't he say boyfriend?
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>>742368610
>YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR....
>... YOU LOST IT...
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>>742368832
So the same thing you faggots do, got it
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>>742368630
Yeah the Mike bullshit is confined to its corner of nonsense, it's harmless if you're not a seething theoryfag who can't take a joke
To the extent that it does overlap with anything important (expanding on Spamton and Tenna's backstory) it's only a positive
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>>742368494
>"well you see it's actually meant to be a bad thing if you read between the lines"
>implying you have to be reading between the lines here
See I thought you were going to make a fair point but instead you're the one that's coping.

Crazy thought, but I'm saying it's being shown as a bad thing, because it is being shown as a bad thing.
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>>742368867
its 50/50 if it says boyfriend or girlfriend
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>>742368732
>adds mike reference to spite theory fags
>it was all planned out
the broad strokes of the story sure but not every detail. I'm sure he wings a ton of it
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>>742368726
Not in my world
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>>742368867
That Florida Inn can say boyfriend or girlfriend
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>>742368816
Based
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How much do I have to replay if I start a Weird Route
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>>742368757
why the fuck would Kris go 'oh hey something similar is happening to me huh time to mention it for no reason' in the middle of a comedic encounter
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>>742368816
Primo stuff anon, I will have degenerate thoughts about this
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>>742363426
Yes to all, but Kris was the one raped as he is the most raped character of all time.
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>>742368434
>ghosts hate their real body = tranny
She is a ghost, she has no body.
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>>742368764
You're a blind retard. Or maybe it's just your fetish. Don't (You) me.
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>>742368907
>braces
hot
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>>742368930
From chapter 2 and onward
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>>742368816
Both Kris and Aqua should jump on Noelle.
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>>742368816
Very cute!
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>>742368907
>bird with teeth
has to be the biggest retard shit since
>lizard with tits
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>>742368884
it's actually even better than that on the mike thing: the only way you could even come to the conclusion that the mike mystery is taunting you is if you WERE a rabid theorist, so outside of that very narrow window of time, complaining about it makes you look insane
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>>742368808
You can only choose from what pops into his head.
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>>742368573
bobbing for tommy vibes
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>>742368907
DESS, NOELLE! WATCH OUT!
HES GONNA SHIT
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>>742368946
Status? Confirmed.
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>>742368875
>* KRIS.
>* KRIS. KRIS. KRIS.
>* THAT'S RIGHT. YOU. I NEED YOU.
>* TO BE BIG. WITH ME.
>* VERY VERY BIG
>* SO BIG WE'LL STAND UP TALL AND SEE PAST THE DARK
>* STAND UP WITH OUR HEADS IN THE CLOUDS AND LOOK INTO
>* H E A V E N
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>>742368854
Yeah, this is the game with the cute blue knight kid and the doe girl. I want the game to have some dignity. If there was supposed to be an "original game", I want to play that.
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>>742369031
most cartoons have birds with teeth
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why doesn't kris just summon spamton and jevil and dasher and dancer and donner and blitzen to defeat the knight? pretty sure if a flower can mog the knight, the combined efforts and jansport and rudolph will be more than enough to win.
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>>742368891
Susie's withdrawal to fantasy is what's portrayed as a bad thing, but her relationship with Noelle is very clearly portrayed as something that makes her happy and is good for her, just extremely poorly timed. Likewise for Noelle.
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>>742365225
Dissapointment about Status Quo being preserved. I fully expected Susie to reveal Dark Worlds to the town.
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>>742368816
I KNEEL
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Noelle is Spamton REAL?
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>>742368632
Ehhhhh
Susie is way too nice at this point, even with a big crashout I don't see her trying to end the world.

That said I DO think she was a villain on the "first run" you delete when you start the game (Kris' save). I assume the party was Kris/Noelle/Ralsei (or VESSEL/Kris/Noelle) and Susie had her villain-to-friend moment later (if it happened at all)

When he removes the SOUL Kris seems to be preoccupied with aiding the Knight and Noelle's mother, keeping us out of the bunker, and keeping Noelle out of the adventure.
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>>742368808
likeliest i think is they're kris' but you can choose which train on thought to act on (unless kris is so vehemently opposed to an intrusive thought you're not allowed to)
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>>742364568
You're probably the theorist that WON the most.
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>>742369049
NTA but this has to be because technically the question can be directed to either Kris or Noelle and DELTARUNE as a simulation developed by Gaster can't handle this edge case, right?
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>>742368936
is that bingo from bingo and bongo?
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>>742369123
The Knight is a Holiday so she's immune to Krismas magic
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>>742368450
>too much control
it doesnt even let you beat the game and just breaks it, i didnt want that
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>>742369031
Good thing berdly doesn't have them, right?
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>>742364568
how the fuck could toby explain such an unhinged twist into the game without it feeling clunky? like i meme'd about how you'd effectively need all of chapter 5 to foreshadow girlkris but chapter 5 explained nothing at best you could say aqua is PROBABLY meant to be kris therefore pussy but that doesn't prove that kris is THE GIRL. like dude the plot is already on the verge of bursting we don't need MORE twists
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>>742367223
Not quite. Noelle and Kris are performing together for (You)
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>>742369031
>Anon discovers cartoons
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>>742368816
okay now do the breastfeeding follow up
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>>742369123
>why doesn't kris [do anything when it's against his plan]
i dunno
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>>742368808
They're Toby's. They just sometimes happen to be choices that align with Kris or (You), which is why there's cases where neither option is one Kris wants to say or do.
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>>742368808
"Yes"
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Is Deltarune a reverse Talos Principle
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>>742368902
The Mike stuff was unironically the best outcome
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>>742365081
Best Deltarune human.
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>>742368817
Out of all that garbage you posted, only that last frame is worth looking at.
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>>742369114
The original game is just The Legend of Zelda
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>>742368946
>>742369090
If I might ask what is the purpose of posting the same image twice with a different gender symbol as part of the ritualposting
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>>742367040
Undyne frozen in ice is unused
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>>742369314
wrong
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>>742369031
>he doesn't know
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>>742369326
Then why didnt we get that but in rpg form. I would played it.
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>>742369137
The stinger at the chapter end, was specifically about bringing noelle into it. Both Susie's withdrawal and her involving Noelle are shown to be bad here. And we already know from the weird route that anything involving noelle is bad news.
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The moment you realize that Kris is supposed to be Whatever you Want Him/Her/They to be, the better. Life will become peaceful.
This was always the intent. People are just extremely sensitive about gender wars and they make the mistake of assuming that Kris' gender ambiguity will be subverted and he will be revealed to be specifically non-binary. This is never going to happen.
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>>742364568
The Girl is the Knight (Kris&Noelle amalgamation)
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>>742369137
i think they're also portraying it as pretty forced on both their parts, with noelle in particular being attracted to susie on the grounds of violent outbursts and sadism that were a masking effort on her part, and which propel noelle HARD towards kris in the weird route

noelle is the subbiest sub to ever sub, and susie doesn't have that in her but she pretends she does, meanwhile kris actually will abuse her while thinking it's fucked up and not wanting that outcome the entire time
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>>742369123
Because he's working with the knight dumbass
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>>742369178
Simplest explanation is that it's just Kris freezing up
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>>742368362
Sometimes distancing yourself from the one you love is the best thing you can do for them.
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>>742369167
I don't think she'll destroy the world I think she'll be the last obstacle for Kris/carol/ and the knight's plan
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>>742369296
Has someone compiled all the choices you get in the game to try and see if left truly is the SOUL option, while right is the Kris' option?
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>>742369178
I just interpreted this as Kris' mental state deteriorating to the point of not wanting to say anything, just like how in Chapter 5 Kris has no comments on anything you interact with until Susie comes into the picture.
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>>742369296
in fairness kris likes to fuck with people
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>>742366037
>Undyne thinks she is part of the team
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>>742369123
Why would he summon his stands to all fight each other?
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>>742369358
i could think kris hates her because she took asgore's job, but i'm reaching, also not undyne's fault
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>>742369387
It’s been talked at lengths before but it’s only irritating because it can quickly derail any discussion of DR by someone malding at Kris being called a he
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>>742369432
There's no consistency like that, you just have to take each option on its own
"Proceed" shows up on either side during the Weird Route, for example
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>>742369387
Problem is Toby's been anal about clarity on whether or not his precious humies are supposed to be up to interpretation or have a secret gender, because he doesn't like letting anyone else know anything about said precious humies until he deems us "worthy" of the knowledge.
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>>742365748
Asriel spent the entire game simping for a girl in Undertale. He was straight.
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>>742369385
yeah that's the big mistake Susie is making but that doesn't mean that her relationship with Noelle is fundamentally unhealthy or bad for either of them, and with all the setup they've had, it'd be contradictory to have them fully broken up at the end. Suselle was always the endgame anons, sorry. But that doesn't mean that it will be the only "winner".
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>>742367905
It might be presented as a "good thing" that is not meant to last and will have horrible consequences
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>>742366032
>also who was the person who made spamton go psycho?
Kris has a phone. Try to call someone in the dark world.
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>>742368816
MY HEROOOOOOOOO
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>>742363426
why are you trannies obsessed with rape?
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>>742369432
both options are vague enough to be kris while still being undertale callbacks imo
"who the hell is sans"
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>>742369538
> but that doesn't mean that her relationship with Noelle is fundamentally unhealthy or bad
Except it is showing to cause Susie to make bad decisions.
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>>742365214
Oh NO!
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>>742369376
https://www.emu-land.net/en/consoles/dendy/roms/the-legend-of-zelda
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>>742369538
suselle is forced and this is a plot point, i trust the dog
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>>742369387
>The moment you realize that Kris is supposed to be Whatever you Want Him/Her/They to be, the better.
I agree and this is what I do. But people get mad at this too
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>>742369601
>why are you trannies obsessed with rape?
it's a theme in the game and your tranny fetish is showing
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>>742369387
I agree. Unfortunately even here some people will start screeching if you starting she for Kris instead of he.
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>>742367129
>unironically linking jaru
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>>742369387
It's just Toby's "are you a boy/girl/they" but skipping the choice.
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>>742368817
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>>742366134
It's not an item, it's what kris's class gets changed to if you abort weird route in chapter 4.
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>>742369718
>his dumbass Dess SOUL theory is now contextualized as TWO rapist does converging on Kris
I will now believe in your theory.
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>>742369695
In the dog we trust.
Make Kriselle real or you will see the real meaning of determination.
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>>742369538
They literally think they're the opposite of the people they really are.
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>>742367485
We talk about Undertale every day in these threads and every Deltarune chapter is filled with several Undertale references. For a 11 year old game that's impressive.
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>>742368897
Damn I thought it was based on your vote of King/Queen.
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Kris being called they is an abstraction of reality just like how buildings are bigger on the inside
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>>742369245
Answer: he won't. This is exactly the type of mystery that doesn't need to be explicitly stated. Just say Kris used to be the OG second hero and the people will work out for themselves what it means.
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>>742369391
>being attracted to susie on the grounds of violent outbursts and sadism that were a masking effort on her part, and which propel noelle HARD towards kris in the weird route
But that's not why she falls in Love with Susie? She always liked her because she thought she had a nice side to her and that's what made her fall in love. She feels safe with her. This is portrayed as a good and earnest thing and it's in line with the rest of the chapter's writing on love and romance and whatever the fuck.

I don't like suselle at all but I feel like I have to say these things because otherwise anons are going to become fully delusional and be really upset when Toby Fox, a writer who is very obvious, ends up doing the obvious and safe thing for the relationship that he's written to be a safe space for these two characters, that will still of course face difficulty and trials as any good romance should, these are just yet to come in chapter 6.

You anons will still dislike it, because you are ideologically opposed to the ship. but you're playing a game by Toby Fox. The pure wholesome lesbians aren't going to lose. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment and failure.
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>>742369376
This is still the best moment in the whole game, and it was still unmatched. Chapter 1 was leading to a different game than what was sold.
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Someone proposed the idea of a Snoot style fangame a few days ago, but that's actually redundant when you stop and think about how much influence Deltarune already has on Snoot.
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>>742367668
so is that that punch card susie drew for sans?
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>>742367832
Use your weaker healing items first. use the frying pan for 4 extra healing with each item and the apron for the 1 HP heal every other turn. These are very slight perks but they can add up with how long the fight can be
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>>742367224
No, it's never actually displayed. But yes, it's in the files
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>>742369961
Noelle has multiple instances of explicitly being attracted to the idea of Susie bullying her
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>>742369986
You have very low standards for RPGs or you simply enjoy the most generic shit.
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>>742365426
noelle is a nutjob who puts on a mask, enjoys feeling desired, goes "since when were you the one in control" in the end to remain 'special'
alternatively, susie is more than she seems (7 years 4 weeks purple dragon book)
susie is the bigger twist at this point, but one has to consider the weird route would've been played after the normal route had the full game come out at once
susie as an autist girl feels more tragic than noelle as a psychopath
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>>742369961
Nice essay. Too bad you have to ignore everything revealed in CH5 to still stick to your theories.

Noelle doesn't give a flying fuck about Susie in a romantic way. Weird Route and Aborted Weird Route just outright show it, and in Normal Route she fake smiles half the time, all the while thinking about Kris.
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>>742370045
Considering you HAVE to draw it to progress, yes, absolutely.
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>>742368610
This is probably what Toby meant by having Chara say "since when were you the one in control" in genocide. That at some point your choice just runs out.
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>>742369387
>Kris is supposed to be Whatever you Want Him/Her/They to be, the better. Life will become peaceful
Kris looks like a boy. Kris acts like a boy. Kris has the personality of a mischievous boy. Literally everything points to Kris being a boy. You just want to shove your disgusting fetish into everything.
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>>742370137
honestly? I hope you're right, but I'm bracing for the worst, aka the most realistic option. Toby is not a perfect writer, he very often chooses self-indulgence over depth.
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>>742370162
>Susie drawing herself smiling
Bullshit.
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>>742370137
This and Susie quite literally does not understand love she doesnt really grasp what Noelle feels for her. Her reply to Noelle's feelings are "whatever it is you feel about me, I feel the same way"
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>>742369961
i think noelle is capping hard when she says she hopes susie has a nice side given that she's at her drippiest and lip bitingest when imagining susie beating her up

every time she's fantasizing about susie she's basically describing kris's known treatment of and friendship with herself, also
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>>742370236
A cool smile, while Kris and Ralsei have goofy nerd smiles.
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>>742370217
did you not read the line before or following this where they talk about how they couldn't agree who was going to be king and queen?
Kris just acts like a kid, you assume he's male because you project to him, and that's fine, it's kind of the intent.
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>>742370137
>Weird Route and Aborted Weird Route just outright show it,
Because she gets mindbroken in weird route. She absolutely is interested in her in main route
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>>742369454
>in Chapter 5 Kris has no comments on anything you interact with until Susie comes into the picture.
He is also incredibly passive with all the stuff that happens in dark world too, he doesn't really engage in any hijinx outside of the cafe interactiton with aqua I think. Also Susie and Ralsei stop listening to his ACT guidance near the end.
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>>742370278
Because it's painfully obvious and beyond any theorizing that Susie is a stand-in for Kris.

The nanosecond he shows actual interest in Noelle she immediately latches onto him.
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>>742367835
The jokes are reactionary. The actual plot points aren't. It'd be better if none of it was reactionary but it's not that bad.
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>>742369986
Chapter 1 definitely had a more magical fantasy feel than the others up until 4 which I honestly think captured that pretty well again, even if it was more serious and less whimsical
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>>742369989
>Tail
NOT MY SUSIE
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>>742369090
True. Glad we were proven right.
>>742369350
I only post the make Kris one because /ss/ is based. I think that other anon just likes /ll/ a lot which is why he always replies to me.
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>>742370217
Why doesn't the game say "he" then?
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>>742370109
I definitely don't enjoy propaganda in my entertainment. Yeah, I wanna see the good guys kick the bad guys asses in turnbased style thats one of my standards for a turnbased rpg. Yeah, I can low standards when i get what i want. When I don't get what I want, I have very high standards.
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>>742370336
>Because she gets mindbroken in weird route.

No she isn't, you daft cunt. She stops pretending. That's her whole reveal in CH5, that she's always been playing at being the good girl (Noelle that does Noelle things) until she almost convinced herself (which is why she still feels guilt) but she hates living like this.

She's a LITERAL, BY DEFINITION, STEPFORD SMILER
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>>742370361
That's more chapter 5B. In 5A he seems to be more snarky when examining stuff around the house, but after leaving it he goes back to normal.
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idgaf about who's male or female
post fan art you like, as long as it's not disgusting like implying sex surgery
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>>742370325
>watercoolerknight
HE IS TOO POWERFUL
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>masochistic girl who hates her stagnant life and desperately wants change
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>increasingly delusional girl who wants every day to be the same as the last
>and she isn't nearly as mean as noelle hopes she is
If Suselle 'just works out' Toby will have no defense against the hack writer allegations.
>he's already a hack becau
Only my opinion matters.
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>>742370441
then go play your children's games bro they're out there waiting
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>>742370137
Eh, even in weird route she still like Susie enough to throw wads of cash at her and use her as a pillow. Probably cause Susie's the outsider to Hometown so that still aligns with her general disdain of the other residents
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>>742370316
>Kris just acts like a kid, you assume he's male because you project to him
I think he's a male because he fucking looks like one, you fucking stupid troon. Kill yourself.
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>>742367207
Sexy boy…
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>>742370560
I looked. Deltarune replaced them.
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>>742370482
My phone wallpaper
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Toby has to backpedal on stuff like Toriel being an awful mother, he does not have shit figured out.
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>>742370472
Yes she is. She "doesn't care about susie" in weird 5 because she's distracted by FREEDOM, it doesn't mean her crush as seen in the main route is just completely fake. It's probably a bit surface level, but it's absolutely there.
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>>742370560
Kill yourself, you disingenuous faggot.
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>>742368816
I haven't seen you draw Pink or Seth yet
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>>742370605
replace yourself retard
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>>742370438
Because Toby's a faggot.
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>>742370621
he's a divorcebaby so he has to protect his mother toriel from incels online
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>>742370621
I still don't understand what people took as backpedaling on that
She wakes up hung over and you, the child, have to make HER breakfast

In weird route it goes even harder, she just doesn't even bother waking you up



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