Previous: >>474015742>Release date according to Apple Store2024.07.04 (unannounced)>Zenless Zone Zero Official Websitehttps://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/>NEWS- Warm-Up Necessary | Zenless Zone Zero Amplifying Test Previewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__45HTgembM - Upcoming Announcementhttps://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/- Changes from previous betahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/27303642https://www.hoyolab.com/article/27315520- Latest Character Teaserhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O23kAaqFAeA (EN)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqMdoOb8vBs (JP)>Test Start Time - 2024/4/18 11:00 (UTC+8)>Check if you have access here: https://act.hoyoverse.com/puzzle/zzz/dWTxNxvrvc/index.html
The amount of surveys is getting silly, they keep asking the same stuff tooBut it shows they care at least I guess
can wait for this game to kill genshin for good.
Nicole is so loud holy shit. She must be the least person you want to be in bed with
Gameplay webms, doko? Don't tell me it has the same amount of gameplay as hsr...
I'm interested in the game just for the incest (headcanon)
Did anyone pay attention to how many polychromes you get from the dailies/errands prior to reaching Senior Proxy rank?I think we're getting more after reaching that rank, right? Kinda gay, it forces you to rush to proxy level 32 as soon as possible
>try soldier 11>she's strong as fuck for 4*>check rates>she's actually 5*What the fuck? her design screams 4*, she literally looks like some mass produced npc you'd find anywhere
>>474782708she's standard 5* after allbut agreed
>starting from floor 8 of shiyu defense you're hit with a two team reqlollmaoI mean, I expected it to kick in, just not quite that early.doesn't help that it takes an absurd amount of battery charge to set shit up to even just level 40.
>>474782708>she literally looks like some mass produced npc you'd find anywhereDon't put her and Anby site by site, unless you want to get spookedI have a theory that Soldier 11 and Anby ARE mass produced clones made to fight.
>>474782913good to knowwhich stages reset? or people haven't reached that point yet?
>>474782913This shit is midgame/endgame territory broThe beta hasn't even been out for a week.
>>474784126I tried looking around but couldn't find anything suggesting the current ones up reset at all so I'm guessing the ones on a schedule require clearing the first 10 to access(if they're even up in cbt to begin with).>>474784438>level 47>midgame/lategameanon I'd consider it to still be "early" game. Which is why the two comp thing being this early is kind of surprising to me.
>>474780303I would if I wasn't playing on my phone for this one.
Project mugen waiting room
>didn't get into multiple betas>had to sign up for the ps5 one which I won't get intoLiterally enraged right now
how many free rolls do we get at start? do we also get limited rolls?any other freebies?what is the beginner banner like? still the same 8 for 10 rolls, guaranteed 5 star at 50 rolls?
>>474785476If you didn't get an email for the PS5 test earlier today, you're not in
>>474780604the mcs this time look really goodthe clothing design here is great
>>474782913i really hate this shit
>>474784920this, unironicallyi am slightly excited because of the fresh coat of paint and early honeymoon period, but it's pretty much the same shit as their other games that i didn't likethe gameplay is even worsehopefully mugen brings some new ideas to the table instead of going the standard gacha route
is this the final beta?
>>474782708She was one of the censored characters, they all look bland now since they were intended to be sluts
>>474783045100% they are from the same sort of military sword girl training program.
>>474780250>hoping the furry game kills genshinlmao
>>474785584>how many free rolls do we get at start? do we also get limited rolls?>any other freebies?I don't think I can accurately answer this question since the beta keeps swamping us with rewards that the average player wouldn't get. I don't remember which of them were in the actual game and which were just for the beta.>what is the beginner banner like? still the same 8 for 10 rolls, guaranteed 5 star at 50 rolls?Yep. It's the same.
>>474787038Should be. The game is probably releasing in july, the play store yesterday had it listed for the fourth of july but we don't know how seriously that should be taken
>>474787787yesgenshin's greatest sin is making sigewinne look like a normal human girlmihoyo WILL pay
>>474788185>july it makes sense. after that it will be around genshin's anniversary and a massive update, I doubt that they will want to put both games against each other.
>>474780250>>474788225even HSR can't even beat genshin with anniversary patch during genshin driest patch ever
I like belle more than wise, should I pick wise to have my own sister wife?
>>474788225It's not like this game has any furry girls either.
>>474789758I do like that the game lets me have a sisterwife rather than become the sisterwife like with GI or HSR
>>474789819Well, not playable ones. But the arcade lady is a furry, and I can see there being a playable one in the future
>>474788531so it's either july or at of the year
I won
I think the thing that trips me up the most compared to Genshin is how you don't start stages with full energy. There's always that awkward bit at the start of a fight where you're just waiting for the enemy to do something you can parry, because it's the only thing you CAN do.
>>474792592You recover energy by basic attacking bro
>>474790964What is the chance of this happening? Is it a 50/50 if the piece you get is from the chosen set?
>>474790531there wont beit wont sellchinese are retarded people with shit taste
>>474792714Yeah but they don't do shitThe game doesn't actually start until you see that golden flash
Is it just me or the artifact / relic here seems really confusing?I can't tell the difference between sets, at least on other game i can tell it's cup, hat, glove, rope, etc
>>474799772everything literally looks the same so that's normal
>>474799772>Is it just me or the artifact / relic here seems really confusing?Literally everything is confusing. All the upgrade material shit look so similar to eachother that you have to actually stop and LOOK at what's in the center of the little icon(since they're the exact fucking same thing). And you then also need to remember which one is actually the one you want. Even the XP materials between the orb and 'agent' look incredibly similar.But yes. All the records for each slotted position look exactly the same and there's no real way to differentiate them in a meaningful way(technically the label sort of slightly changes but that's incredibly minor).Honestly, the idea of this game coming out in july is... Fucking bizarre to me. This shit legitimately needs another 8+ months just to fix all their unusable UI garbage and menu shit.
>got spooked on the Ellen banner by RinaNot that I am complaining, just need Grace off standard and we are back to my CBT 2 lightning gang.
>>474800521>Honestly, the idea of this game coming out in july is... Fucking bizarre to me. This shit legitimately needs another 8+ months just to fix all their unusable UI garbage and menu shit.I was thinking that toolike I get they don't want to release the game at busy time for genshin/HSR, but this game is a bit undercooked in its current state
>>474800521I don't see why just sorting out icons would need 8+ months but otherwise I agree. It especially hurts since you're often using up to 100 stamina per run just to find out you farmed the wrong shit
>>474780303https://youtu.be/QypDUe_uVV4?si=Our-Rom0oXoryPIv>This game will compete with WuWaCute censored girls, I can tolerate the bear but the furry wolf is an ez uninstall for me.Azure promilia waiting room.
>>474803897>I don't see why just sorting out iconsIf it were just icons it'd be easy and fine. That's mostly doable in 3 months. But it's really not.Right now you have weird UI elements/menus hidden behind:1. Physically going to an actual NPC to access2. A completely arbitrary "time of day" system3. So. Goddamn. Many. Loading screens. Unironically, you have to hit a loading screen to get to a loading screen to get to any other area other than 6th street.4. So much information that just isn't actually visible or explained anywhere except for nested tooltips nested within other tooltips5. Did you know that there's a fucking crafting menu? The only way I can find to actually get to it is to go to a tier 2+ upgrade material, check its description and click the "crafting" source tooltip. And a lot fucking more. They also need to get dual input between controller+mkb to actually work(rather than the current exclusionary "you can only have one or the other" as it is now) or random other combat UI shit they need to adjust. And three months is just not anywhere near enough time to clear even half of those things. In terms of dev time, the CBT right now is probably about 98% to gold if they're targeting July.The best I can think of to describe how it feels like this is going to go is that, if released (nearly) as is, this is going to be one of those games that is going to be a functionally completely different in just about every aspect within 2-3 years of its launch.> It especially hurts since you're often using up to 100 stamina per run just to find out you farmed the wrong shitMan. I'm pretty sure I've done this not once, not twice but probably at least three times by now. And it's mostly due to how awful the VR "modify drill" menu is.
>>474807327>They also need to get dual input between controller+mkb to actually work(rather than the current exclusionary "you can only have one or the other" as it is now)All hoyo games are like this for some godforsaken reason. I don't expect ZZZ to be any different.
>>474807982honkers isn't. You can swap between them pretty freely there. No idea on HSR since there's no real reason to play it on controller. Can't really remember for genshit since that game is just a clusterfuck and feels bad on controller, anyway.
I wish the HIA trashcan would always give hints, sometimes it just doesn't give the optionI only need 2 more but no clue where they could be, I assume it will unlock tomorrow
I just got Ellen and I really think entering her dash mode feels awkward, at least on m+kb.
>>474816137The double tap input is smoother than holding for it, I think
those giant mechs that spend half their time backpedaling and shooting at you are extremely gay, possibly even homosexual
>>474817413Bro!? Your Anby? Your Soldier 11?
>>474818015why do you need a sword to block bullets anywaywhy can't my soukaku block with that huge fucking slab she's got
>>474779727Is she shark maid good? I love her design
This game will be a fine waiting room for Endfield
>>474818607>>474818015Ellen can block them tooignore the hp
I keep getting materials confused, this morning just confused support and stun promotion materials, and just now farmed W-drive exp instead of character expAre the designs too similar for other people or am I just dumb?
>>474820219>and just now farmed W-drive exp instead of character expThis shit happened to me tooYou really need to pay attention to get that shit right for some reason
>>474820135Very anime, does that work during her special dash too?
>>474800521>Honestly, the idea of this game coming out in july is... Fucking bizarre to me. This shit legitimately needs another 8+ months just to fix all their unusable UI garbage and menu shit.i agree with thisas much as i am excited to try this, most of the ui/menu looks awfulthe character screens are the only ones that look stylish and cooland also possibly roll back on the censorship, at least for nicole
>>474820315Surely we are getting these mistakes out of the way now and not when the game launches
>>474806004yeahthe bear is coolthe furry, definitely notfucking disgusting shit that has already amassed a following among degenerate dog fuckersi am already terrified of the kind of threads/generals we are gonna get for this game
>>474820135Oh neat, she didn't do that last beta.
>>474820219The first time I entered that menu I thought all the promotion materials were the same and accidentally blew all my stamina on god knows what
>>474807327it's so hilariously embarrassing that hoyo still cannot create functional doors that connect areas at the ends seamlesslyi have also seen a post stating how the stairs also have loading screens
is uh that miko katana chick going to be available on release
>>474820417Yes, when the screen has a slight blue tone like in the webm it is during her special dash. It also works outside of it
>>474822256Probably not if this is the last beta.
>>474822497Ah, apologies for exposing myself as an Ellenlet
>>474822256Probably not. It's either Miyabi or Zhu Yuan for the second phase S-rank agent, but I think it's going to be Zhu Yuan so there's more than one ether agent on release patch.
I honestly have no idea what W-engine to give my EllenAs cope I'm just using Billys on her, but the passive is useless (mostly, imo). But I already thought about just whaling for her + her w-engine really to make things easier for myself and she's pretty fun actually
>>474822781>>474823142looks like i'll be saving, looking to stay F2P for real this time (because I gave mihoyo too much of my money in the other two games)
>>474823281I've been running into that issue with Corin. The f2p engines for attackers really seem suited for Billy more than the melee characters. The BP one looks good so maybe I'll just paypig for that in the real game.
>>474823281I pulled the Soldier 11 Drive so I'm just going to use that since its the simplest and has the highest atk statsStill need to keep upgrading this obviously
>>474823379Yeah I plan save as well, I want the maids and all the sword girls.
>>474779727xivsisters...the east has fallen...
Does anyone else feel that the weekly Rally last boss is really difficult?Both times I experienced a full wipe towards the end of the 2nd phase, I don't care too much since the reward is only 10k money but wondering if its overtuned or if I'm just bad
>>474827904skill issueissue of skillno but really it's probably a mix of level/skill level check at this point. Also it hits like a literal fucking truck but other than when it does the full 360 blade arm swing thing it's pretty predictable so it's not that bad so long as you spam dodge/parry.I think I had a rougher time with the mid-boss' patterns than I did the final one.
>>474827904The butcher? His second form has some unusual combos, you just gotta get used to doing consecutive parries instead of immediately countering.
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>>474838770I didnt get a beta invite...
>>474838770Post some of your gameplay sisDo the weekly rally for us
>>474838770i am still excited for this despite the lack of interest and doomposting.t. ps5 player
When will she arrive in this game?
>>474840013hopefully neverwe want neither dykeshit 3rd trannies nor the Raidenfag/anti-raidenfag here
>>474840472Too late
it's over...
>>474827904Yeah the butcher boss is really chaotic in the 2nd phase and I feel like I have no fucking idea what I'm doing in terms of character rotations in general, I just spam evasion/swap whenever the golden thing appearsI do like this boss more than the Belobog Machines though, those were really lame.
>>474806004well enjoy your even more horrible artifact grind than genshin
>game is just honkai impact 4NOPE
*crickets*
thread is dead because we are all playing and enjoying it, sorry betaless losers
wow she look greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0zQzn9ZJ4
Where the fuck is the hype????Betabros post more screens and webms
>>474866939All that backwards movement on her attacks looks like it may be annoying for your other teammates
>>474867478what would you like to see, I don't know if I can make webms cause I lost my settings for ffmpeg due to new computer but I can try
>>474867498I play Grace and she has a lot of backwards flips too, its not that bad even with 2 supporting melee
>>474867990I can make webms now, don't let it die
https://x.com/AeroViro/status/1782629633030234454Why are white women like this? They are not helping the allegations.
It's gonna be a long 30 days
>>474879205were they even fighting them in the first place?
>>474879205They missed a colossal success opportunity by not putting 1 or 2 anthro waifus
>>474879205this just made me realize he's the only male S character at launch, is that why?Genshin had Diluc and Venti if you count him, while HSR had Gepard, Yanqing, Welt
I really love the dodge resonium for the extended time and damage boosts from dodgingThis was the level 45 recommended Hollow Zero stage against Dead End Butcher who I absolutely hate
I'm going to bed don'e let the thread die
>>474890929Sorry bro I’m posting on cooldown in Hsrg right now
If I cast ult and she doesn't say "I can also become an asura!" I just reset right then and there
i want both zhu and miyabi when the game releases.am i doomed?
>>474885467>needs 2 five stars to beat itSo this game is just full blown P2W???No wonder there is no hype with this game.
>>474895072Don't shitpost with my wife please
>>474895072My Koleda is only level 34 and has no talent levels, she was just there to build stun, could have used Anby>>474894959Probably
Didn't ask for your reply, so don't.>>474895285So you're telling me a 5star is still required?P2W.The girls also aren't cute enough to warrant them being 5 star, they really need to bring out cuter girls if they want this game to be hype.
>>474894959Zhu is probably gonna be the 2nd 5* banner and Miyabi is nowhere in sight. I don't think she's gonna have a banner for a long time, you're gonna be fine
>>474895419Give me time to finish building Koleda and Ellen, then I'll work on the Cunning Hares who are the starter welfare units
>>474895802Put your ass to work then and get it done, faggot.I don't know how long the beta is for, but I doubt you have enough time.And you also better not be using any 5 star weapons too when it comes to them.
>>474894959>>474895618I thought zhu yuan was a 4 star?
So what's the excuse on why this game has absolutely no hype???
>>474896990censorship
>>474896990CensorshipHi3 with different coat of paint
>>474897212>>474897304Nah, that Nicole girl isn't that cute.Besides her big tits were gross and its honestly an improvement with what they did with her.
>>474896990They didnt let me into the beta. I can cope with the shitty ass censorship by using mods.
>>474897347That's something you'd say, sparklepag
Also unironically?I saw one of these character trailers, and they are GODAWFUL.Isn't Mihoyo mega fucking rich?This is the sort of trailer I expect out of some indie company in a fucking garage, no wonder this game has no hype, its like they gave no budget to this fucking game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQO8qWu6ZwY
Don't you have anything better to do?
>>474897841it's ok he's keeping us off page 10in fact, show him some footage of the TV mode, that's worth a whole thread of doomposting
Actually, I think the TV mode thingy looks cute and its probably a step in the right direction.Maybe instead of front loading it they should have backloaded it though.Super dumb to make it be something people during the beginning when ADHD kiddos all just want to punch and kick stuff.Once people get more bored of the combat they can introduce more fun puzzle elements or some shit.
>>474898025The people that keep bitching about the TV stuff need to either learn to live with it or simply realize that this game isn't their cup of tea and leave.Like, the game isn't even out yet, don't tell me they have sunk-cost already lmao
Honestly the majority of TV is fine, can do most of the sidequests in 5-7 minutes easilyBut there are a few that are just god awful, like the cannon shooting ones and the 500k gear coins one that took me 26 minutes. Bomb ones are also bad
Without puzzles I assume the game will die extremely fucking fast.Its like trying to remove the open world puzzles from Genshin, it'll be straight up dogshit if you do that.Give it some nice rewards and faggots will eat up how amazing Tv puzzles are.
>>474898461I thought the bomberman one was cute as a one-off thing. Then they kept bringing it back in the later stages...
>>474820821Oh, hey, it's my webm.>>474820135>>474822497Neat. I guess, they just had to make a Limited S rank Agent even more OP. I'm not complaining though, Ellen is fun to play.
>>474866939>both Ether characters are gun/melee hybrids
Can someone explain the point of switching between characters?Seems like you're just better off maining 1 fucking character.I hate this gimmicky 3 team shit.
>>474899906Switch attacks hits hard, they restore your parry charges, build up the ult meter, and there's a whole upgrade tree dedicated to it in the Hollow Zero dungeon crawling.That said, you don't have to build into that tree on your runs. And you can switch characters back immediately after triggering an assist attack.You can also disable the automatic switch prompt trigger and set it to manual, if you don't like the constant popups.
>>474900383perfect assists fill up daze a lot quicker too right? you can feel it especially with the butcher boss
>>474900667Yes, parries build up a lot of daze too.
>>474900383So the whole point is just to switch attack once then switch back to your main???That is so fucking stupid, just let us control one fucking character, this is so gimmicky and stupid.
>>474901620There's nothing stopping you from going in with only one character. It would probably be easier to play for the mechanically challenged
>>474901620>onceNo. Switch attacks are triggered when you land a heavy attack on a dazed enemy. And you go through your whole party. There's a Resonium on Hollow Zero which increases the maximum number of switch attacks in the chain by 1. Some characters have bonuses which boost the damage done by subsequent character's switch attacks, etc.To summarize, the switch attacks are at the core of ZZZ's combat system. You CAN disable them, and just stick to the basic light attack mashing. However, that would not only gimp your damage output, but it's also plain boring and primitive.
>>474901831>>474901861So>enemy becomes dazed>SWITCH ATTACK>ok enemy no longer dazed>stick to one guy hammering away until the next time he gets dazedSo that is the whole fucking purpose to carry around 3 fucking party members and a fucking oompa loompa???How is that not fucking retarded?
>>474902010As opposed to carrying around 1 fucking party member and a fucking oompa loompa?Each character brings different tools to the battlefield, buffs, debuffs, they have synergies with each other, etc. That adds more depth to the combat, like it or not. You're arguing for simplification and more shallow gameplay.
>>474902010there is no cooldown switch so just switch back to your main again it's not that complicated it's mihoyo game
Why do you even attempt to doompost when you don't understand the absolute basics of how to play
>>474902295>Each character brings different tools to the battlefield, buffs, debuffsSo they are just stat sticks then??You bring them to buff/debuff and then send them away?At that point you aren't even really attacking with them, they just exist to do their one support move and send them away, that is dumb as fuck.Should just deepen the characters toolkits instead of half baking it all with this gimmick switching shit, this is why Star Rail exceeds because having party members is the fucking point of turn based shit, not this, this has no fucking point.>>474902332I just want to know the fucking point of it all.Rather main 1 character that I like and use them all the time than find some fucking stat sticks.Could have just given us gear that did that.
>Retarded moeposter attentionwhoringIt's not even a videogame thread at this point, even less than current /hsr/ and /gig/, might as well let it die.
>>474902295>implying the things you mentioned here arent shallow themselveslmao>>474902568everything about ZZZ's game design is baffling to me as someone who actually plays action games and fighting games. Shit looks low skill ceiling as fuck
>>474902568>You bring them to buff/debuff and then send them away?If (You) wish to play that way, avatarfag. The choice to make something boring is yours.And you've made abundantly clear you care not for the game, and just here to shitpost.
>>474902485It's just some shitposter who can't do it in the other hoyothreads because they're going too fast to notice his cancer. Don't feed it.
I haven't been invited to any of the CBT's or played anything.What would you say the ratio of combat to minigame is? I've read that the minigames are excessive and the combat sections are neglected as a result.
>>474902874If you consider the TV sections to be minigames, then 50/50TV stuff is core gameplay along with combat.
>>474902804I'm pretty sure that is the optimal way to play though???I played Gayshit Impact and it was the same exact way, used 2 characters to buff then your 3rd character you go wacko with extreme damage and the only time you ever revert back is when the buffs are gone.>>474902768Its a shame realy, I really hate the whole 3 characters switching nonsense.I feel like there is often little purpose in having 3 whole fucking characters who just exist as stat sticks.
>>474902874It's not "mini" game. The game is basically a roguelike (actual top-down 2D grid-based roguelike, not roguelite) dungeon crawler. And the 3D action combat is its random encounters.As for the ratio, in my experience with the last beta it was around half and half. Maybe slightly leaning towards the dungeon crawling exploration part. There were however some combat-only game modes.And I'm not in the current beta, but from what I gather, they've shifted focus more towards combat.
>>474902874There's a whole category of missions called "Exploration" which are mostly just menial chores you perform through the TV mode. They're pretty bad, you could delete every one of those missions from the game and nothing of value would be lost.The TV mode stuff is usually more interwoven with the combat gameplay in other parts of the game and feels more like a core part of the game.
>>474902984Honestly i wouldn't have any problems with the game had it had more complexity beyond different number of damage flavour, especially if it involves more interaction between the player and the enemy that arent just sponges who barely reacts to anything, but this is mihoyo we're talking about, numbers are their bread and butter. I was honestly looking forward to it when they said it was more focused on "action" gameplay and all ive seen is nothing but a masher.
>>474902874I'm in the beta and while they toned down the Hollow Exploration a bit it's still boring as fuck when you're forced to do puzzle solving in the same TV layout so frequently. The fact that the chinese somehow enjoy this shit is beyond me.
>most people that got into beta realized most of the gameplay sucksDoA? knowing mihoyo, they're not gonna change shit
>>474903472Meh, complexity isnt really the problem.A game like Sekiro has like zero complexity, it's a legit party simulator and if you know the enemies attack patterns well it's like they dont fight back.But everyone loves it.So having a game where the parry is the main mechanic isnt bad, it's been proven to be well received.I just dont like the whole 3 character and oompa loompa tagging along when only 1 fights.
>>474904002I honestly don't mind the team switching but making the rest of the team more involved would actually requires thought into the combat design and system mechanics, which means its needs to be more complex than just the simplicity that ZZZ is doing right now, where the only viable strategy isnt just mash>switch>do skill/gain stack/apply status effect>switch>repeat.
>>474905184Still more complex than Sekiro, given how parrying is a big part of the game as well.Dont know, from what I've seen I have very little complaints when it comes to the actual combat.Havent played it, but honestly it seems serviceable.And if people managed to like star rail when it's just turn based shit, this is infinitely better.They also need to add cute girls, they are severely lacking in them, the girls look way too "cool" and cool is not cute.
>>474896990cant even deny that it's censorshippeople were really excited to see that waterkuma was working on this as the art director, then they show off nicole who immediately became a favorite among many, and BAM! censorship!they butchered her hardthis just shows the game is exactly gonna be like genshin and star rail, and the chinese are already moving on to azur promilathe problem with the gacha market is that no industry is innovating anything, but copying trends from hoyoi hope mugen does their own thing and keeps things fresh, because it does look promising
How are you supposed to use nicole? I thought she was some sort of aoe dps like billy but she's listed as a support
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>>474913045Isn't she just for gathering and ether anomaly trigger? I don't really use her
>>474920090>gatheringLike with the wind characters in genshin? I don't think there are many characters who would benefit that greatly from that, and the aoe seems pretty darn small... but I'll give it a shot
>>474923141>I don't think there are many characters who would benefit that greatly from thatIt's pretty important because every attack is AoE here. So if enemies are gathered in one spot you pretty much hit them with all your attacks, killing them faster. But it's only really relevant in Combat commissions and Shiyu defense because of the timerGathering is pretty important in Genshin for that same reason.
zzz is the most soulful hoyo gamehopefully they also create more unique character designs like soukaku, billy and ben
>>474923465As a story, franchise it is indeed pretty cool, the game is just boring and unremarkable
Didn't people also call Star Rail boring and unremarkable?
>>474923465>hopefully they also create more unique character designs like soukaku, billy and benUnfortunately most of the upcoming characters look like sex dolls
>>474782708>generic copypastes>Jean(kaff)>Tighnari(KAFF)>Mona(KAFF KAFF KAFF ahem)
>>474897634>TWEWYFunny thing is I was playing NEO when I first heard of ZZZ.
That's crazy bro
>>474779727Does she still have her cake?
I need all the characters ranked from worst to best.
>>474929778Ben<<<<Ellen
>>474929568Yes. Most of the time winning a battle will give you the colonoscopy cam, just like with nekomata
>>474929778S tier: soukakuA+ tier: nekomataA tier: corin, lycaon, anton, soldier 11B tier: billy, anby, benUnsure or don't have tier: ellen, koleda, grace, rina, nicole
>>474930494Nice. Can't wait to see it in ultra HD 4k with RTX on when August comes.
>>474929778>WEGGposterMuh oof!
>>474926390It is boring and unremarkable, i bet you like and play fortnite too
>>474931080>I swear muh 4 stars carryMihoyo stop your fucking posting, NOW!
Am I retarded or somethingI just now reached proxy level 33 after doing my grind for mats today. For some reason, my max activity for errands reverted back to 400? And I also can't which other errand I want to do.It was 600 yesterday. Did this happen to anyone else? Or is this a bug?
>>474933359Man, I don't recognize any of these new menus. They've done a lot of work on this game since the last beta. (Except most of the content is the same, but reshuffled between the menus)
>>474933359It does that sometimes, I'm not sure if it's a bug or if it's intended to go back and forth randomly.
I heard Genshin bros are angry over them getting their endgame shafted.I guess zzz truly will be the next big game, hopefully the endgame doesn't end up being shit.
>>474936528>shaftedthey're just pulling a star rail
>>474936528>I guess zzz truly will be the next big gameLet's not get too cocky...
>>474932321She is a support you dipshit and Hoyo has had full support teams be viable in end game content in the other games.
>wake up>they spent all night feeding replies to the attentionwhoring avatarfaggot and his stupid questions.No wonder these threads will be as bad, if not worse than the other Mihomo threads once the game launches.>>474933359Probably a bug but I could be wrong. There's other things I've found bothersome the more I play, like how you have to go all the way back to the character selection menu if you want to compare skills and gear, you can't quickly swap to other characters from the skill/equipment menu like in Star Rail.
How do I get into the beta
>>474950410You tell them you have a potato phone but play in PC anyway.
>>474950410Not possible anymore right now, sorry.
>>474950410Go to their website and do the survey thing, then wait.
>>474951009That must have been why I got in. Too bad for them, I upgraded my phone after signing up.
news?
>>474957857olds.
>>474936528>hopefully the endgame doesn't end up being shit.It seems like the endgame will probably become beefy with time, their priority this time doesn't seem to be the story or questing but rather the combat and hollow zero. I can see them fleshing it out with a bunch of different endgame combat challenges and probably some modes that are like a more involved version of the simulated universe expansions from star rail. At the moment it's just shiyu defense and hollow zero though.
what are the gameplay modes like? story mode, arcade games, some equivalent to abyss/mirror called "shiyu defense"what else?i saw a video on ytube where the character is fighting off monsters along with what appear to be police officers protecting some npci hope there are fun modes where the objective is slightly different but still utilizes combat, kinda like the splatoon series
>>474968923Hollow Zero is HSR simulated universe, but beyond that its just what you said
I hope I'm not the only Genshin-playing retard here who keeps mixing up the inputs for Arlecchino's and Ellen's special dashes
Where are the sluts??
>>474974104In CBT 1
>>474974104lucia will escape censorshiptrust the plan
The TV stages would be infinitely better if it displayed your own bangboo instead of the generic one
>>474974104Nicole is a slutLucia is a slutKoleda is a pitslutCorin turns around and shows her bloomers to you without even being askedNekomata is a slutEllen is a slutThats 6 sluts out of 11 girls, be happy
>>474982713what about zhu yuan ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx7SnvTrYA4
>>474982871Could go either way. Her personality will probably be the tiebreaker in this case.
>>474985064okay what about alexanrina ?
>>474896990>Censorship>Second beta sucked>Genshin has been shit so people aren't excited to jump into a new Mihoyo gameI'm actually hoping this game doesn't do that well so they actually have to try. Genshin is a victim of its own success
>>474982713>Grace not mentionedGrace mains stay winning
>>474990458Sadly we're way past the point where a wake-up call could happen. The game is engineered to be a success even if it sucks, everyone including the shitposters know ZZZ is gonna print millions day one just like HSR because Mihoyo is very good at corporate marketing. What you should be hoping instead is for the upcoming competition (like Mugen Project or Azure Promillia ) to do things right.
>>474992557I think more casual players will just bounce off the menus. Farming things requires bouncing between different menus while you figure out which enemies drop the specific identical-looking triangles you need (because the art budget did not extend to resource icons) and some of those menus require going to specific places in the hub world on the other side of a 15 second loading screen, that shit is going to filter people far more than the size of Nicole's tits
>>474997280You're not wrong but menu layouts and interface browsing can be reworked before release (they can also just delay the game's launch if needed.) One thing that could make them bleed players imo is forcing Hollow Exploration in events or limited-time content every patch. See, Genshin and HSR get plenty of toddler-tier puzzles all the time but at least they're quite varied and come in different flavors, both in visuals and in style. Now imagine ZZZ getting the same treatment but instead they adapt all the monthly minigames and non-combat patch content into the same TV-flavored grid layout, just like they have done with box pushing and bomberman already. I wouldn't stay even if they reverted Nicole's design and menu animations back to the original version.
I can't decide whether to play on my ps5 or on my laptop. What the equivalent for a ps5 in pc specs?
>>475000448yeah, this is my biggest fearit's gotta be absurdly easy to make "content" for the hollows, are they going to be able to resist flooding events with that stuff?
>>475002357If your laptop is only average or bad, go PS5. PC games need to be optimized for such a wide range of hardware while consoles don't
>>474992557>The game is engineered to be a success even if it sucksI don't know about that. HSR's success has mostly been leeching off of Genshin (though I'm sure its more popular in Japan since they love turn based battles). One's success has been the other's loss and HSR has probably only been successful because Genshin is so poorly managed. I don't know if Hoyo fanatics can split there time between three separate games. Plus its clear that people are less interested in this beta than they were with the second one. Not to mention liveservice games haven't been doing as well recently. Think people have been kind of burnt out on these kind of games especially after the boom with COVID. I don't see ZZZ catching on in the same way
>>474992557>he doesn't knowproject mugen is investor bait for netease upcoming marvel overwatch anon
>>475005492>marvel hero shooter >a fucking hero shooters in current year>mfw>>475005090>I don't know if Hoyo fanatics can split their time between three separate games. The real hardcore ones will find a way, but Mihoyo's true audience are normies and casuals which can freely swap around between all their games at their own leisure. Plus now they're also tapping the furry market. Honestly even if the current gacha landscape isn't the same as it was two years ago I'm confident ZZZ will be ranking high in those gacha charts, of course that's under the assumption they'll properly manage and keep on improving the game after this CBT ends and post-launch as well, which I expect them to do.
game is shit but normies love shit, especially the kind that has sparkly *brand_name* attached to italso brace yourself for the degenerate furshit spam
>>475014230Its not fair i had hope for anthro waifus
Is anby bad or am I playing her wrong? Going back after using lycaon feels pretty rough
>>475025176anby is not damager and doesn't have freezeshe is walmart daze bot until you got SSR electric unit
>>475010823>I'm confident ZZZ will be ranking high in those gacha chartsthere's not enough coom designs for that
>>475026619That's such a shame.She's by far my favorite design.
Depends on how much romantic/platonic teasingthere is there's an upswing in demand of more romantic gacha (for men and women) as of late so if zzz only wants normalfag attention they will have to market it as hard as star rail since normals are prone to new toy syndrome
>>475032772well anon i love anby too so that doesn't stop me from always using her on my team as daze bot
ZZZ for this feel?
>>475002357Hoyo are pretty bad at console ports. HSR runs the same on my PS5 and my ROG Ally (a handheld PC running at 15W) plus the PS5 version has broken audio that they never patched.
>>475034363Could she become a good dps if she was at max dupes?
hoyo should create a pixel styled game
>>475035059Koleda belobog obviously
What knot rank you guys at?Are we able to reach lv 50 at the end of cbt?
>>47503993633 right now>Are we able to reach lv 50 at the end of cbt?Probably not, there's most likely gonna be a steep XP increase just like in genshin and hsr
>>475039936Just hit 35, apparently this is where you can finally get gold relics
>>47503993636, I just unlocked Grace commission but haven't started it yetI'm tempted to just spend all my polychromes on stam refreshes to see how far I can get
have anyone extract CBT3 models ?
>>474840013No more Kianas, Bronyas, or MEIs.
Oh yeah, I never saw extracted folders after cbt1...
i like how some stages have a "trap" like mechanism that shoots out projectiles when you pass through the red zone in front of itthere should be more mechanisms like this instead of being simple corridors
>>475060923They should make them more easily triggerable or something. Like the electrothingy, you need to hit it so many times to activate it. Makes it kinda pointlessBut yeah I also like how you can sometimes find healing/energy during rally commissions in some hidden spots
>>474820135is it possible to disable this grain effect on the screen? it's kinda bad
>>474982871https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0zQzn9ZJ4shshe's pretty cool.
>>475063847>is there a way to surgically remove the games soulYou didn't get into the beta because you are not worthy.
Not sure how to feel about character building tbqh desuThe character level max being 60 really makes the individual level caps feel more like a slog
This game looks like they took hi3 combat and tried to make it Genshin on a budget
>>475068968If anything the problem is that the general art and animation quality is much higher, but it still has to run on a phone, so you end up with really nice looking maps the size of a closet with 20 seconds of loading between each one
>>475060923They were easier to trigger in CBT2 by walking in front of them at any distance.
when amongus is sus
>>475072764At least the urban, modern-inspired setting matches the zoomer slang this time
>>475032772The entire starter trio feels almost entirely replacable, sadly. Maybe Zhu Yuan can make Nicole relevant for a bit but Soukaku really mogs her as a support.
>>475076726>modernIt's a weird mix of that and retroLike who the fuck rents/uses video tapes nowadays? Or CRTs? It feels more like zoomers and smartphones put into the 90s urban japan or something
Is e6 soukaku a better ice dps than ellen?
>>475077556I think they are about even in aoe while Ellen pulls ahead in single target, and that is because E6 Soukaku has +4 all levels of skillsOnce we start getting actually good drive discs and leveling them, Ellen should pull ahead easily in all areas
Do we have any clue if the beta will end once the banner ends or if they will put up another one? Not sure if I should hold on to my rolls or spend them for a chance of maxing out Soukaku.
>>475089484I don't think they're gonna drag the beta out too much if the release is really gonna be in July. The beta ending with the banner would make the most sense
>>475089484You can probably just treat the banner end as a countdown for the end of the beta. It's technically not confirmed but it would be really weird to keep going
>had to go all the way to hard pity for a soldier 11>have to go all the way to hard pity just to finally get my guaranteed ellenFuck you, game. Thank god I'm using up all my bad luck in the beta instead of the full release.
>>475090769How the FUCK are you pulling 2 pities for the limited banner out of your ass?
>>475090956Maybe you guys just need to be searching deeper in your own asses
Did the update break the game for anyone else?
>>475090769>got soldier 11 on day 2 of the beta>hard pityExcuse me? How did you get 90 rolls in 2 days?
>>475096202maybe they meant the 50th pull of the standard banner, because that is the discount and guaranteeI was lucky and got Grace in the 2nd 10 pull on that banner
>>475096202Sorry, maybe I'm too loosey goosey with the terminology. I just meant deep into pity
Miyabi waiting room
I like anton, if only because he's the only man in this game that is actually a man. Is he any good?
>>4751109864* lightning DPS, take that info for what you will.
God I wish furry butler was a robo butler instead
>>475111606He should have just been a wolf girl maid.
every kemonomimi girl should have been a full-on furryit's like mihoyo hates money or something
>run the level 45 recommended hollow zero map>got a full or near full suite of dodge buffs>still took 7 fucking minutes to chunk down the final bosshttps://files.catbox.moe/n7xiao.webmwell that was a pain in the ass.And trying to do any sort of "organized" rotation right feels pretty awful. I also could've tried using the sawblade meido instead of anby to try and proc disorder but getting that to actually happen on a boss just doesn't seem very reasonable and doesn't seem worth having your card pool diluted by a second typing when the shock/electric stuff is actually really good.
>>475116861Corin only feels good if someone else stuns the boss. She really needs damage reduction when she is using her skill.
>>475108781Does she have a fluffy tail?
>>475117224according to the skill info she does have 40% damage reduction, but it honestly doesn't feel like it with how fast her HP gets chunked
>>475118040No, but she has been MIA since CBT1 when they had a wind element so she may get one
>>475110986He seems okay by 4* DPS standards. He's a bit weird mechanically though, he basically doesn't have a skill and instead just drains his energy meter to hit harder, so as soon as it runs out he's hitting like a wet noodle.
>>475116861I wonder how stupid it'd be to build a non-anomaly character for anomalies. Assault/flinch do seem really good.
>>475116861well no duh dummy, you were against dead end butcher who resists electric, you were supposed to use Ellen and SoukakauHere is my run of the level 45 machine boss, pretty much half your time despite only having Grace for electric dps, thats how effective weakness is in this gameCan post the last 2 minutes of my garbage gameplay if needed
So what do you all think of the game? How are the changes?
>>475126515The combat is pretty fun, and a lot less mashy than similar games if you actually try to engage with the character mechanics (which will let you clear much faster). There's a good game in there, although I think it needs more time to cook.The menus are a fucking disaster though, I hope they overhaul them. Tiny icons that all look the same, inconsistent buttons between screens, and no wishlist or quick navigation for farming character materials so you just have to remember what you need.
>>475126515The pacing is way better ever since they pared back the TV stuff in the main story
page 10
>>475118670I hope so, you can't just go and design a nice foxgirl without the fluffy tail, that ain't right.
So what's nekomiya lore? She seems kinda mysterious and I like when waifus are relevant in the story for more than one patch before getting reduced to a secondary character. She will be worth grabbing once the game releases?
>>475148512She was part of a gang but left because they started helping orphans less and did more crime. She originally hired the Hares to get an heirloom and revenge, but sees they are good people and joins them insteadShes pretty fun and feels strong but I don't have her, just played her in story missions
Is true that you can't do shit with your waifus outside of battle?At least HSR let me pretend that I do stuff with them in the open world.
>>475152938You occasionally run into them in the hub world but no, you never play as them outside of battle
>>475152938bit of a letdown that you play arcade games with Billy and then never again
>Seeing ZZZ on the app store alreadyThis coming out soon already? I was under the impression it would be later in the year.
>>475157761Seems like an early july release but that's not official. Unless something from the test makes them decide to delay the game, but I doubt that will happen as the game feels polished for the most part
Can someone post Anby's ass? Need it for reference
>>475162757Is this good enough? It's hard to get a good angle for a screenshot since you an only angle the camera so far upward
>>475163374Yes, thank you, anon
just spent 100 stamina on the wrong skill item
>>475164939They either need to make the icons bigger on the screen or otherwise more clearly differentiate them because I always have to squint to make sure I'm getting the right one. I assume it'd be a little easier on pc or ps5 than it is on my phone but still...
>>475164939>>475165248Bruh the wrong skill item? Those are the most differentiated ones since they have a different icon and color...What they need to change are the character/w-engine XP and the promotion matsIf you're unsure of what you're seeing click on Challenge Reward in the bottom left prior to doing the stage
>>475165964Skill items are some of the easier ones but they're still a lot harder to differentiate than they probably should be
>>475164939I wasted 200, i mistook billy as fire character because he's wearing all red
>>475169271This did not occur
>>475162757>>475163374anby SEXOOOOO
>>475032772my bad anon i take that back anby is possible to become main DPS if you try hard enough which is easy cuz this is mihoyo game after allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc0Ne1-INqs
>>475148512made for Big Ollie Cock
>>475165248This is probably my biggest complaint about the game. If I need to farm something I should be able to either tap on it and teleport into farming it right away, or have some sort of wishlist to track what I need. Instead I just have to remember which specific colour of triangle I need and what microscopic icon should be in the middle
>>475180883They let you customize that shit for a reason though...> I should be able to either tap on it and teleport into farming it right awayYou can literally do this. If you're in a Skill Enhancement tab or whatever you can click on the needed material and it shows you how to obtain it. If you then click on "[Obtain] Combat Simulation" you can teleport to that tab right away.The only issue with that is that it doesn't automatically select the template with the needed material. But they can add that in some way surely.
game needs more fun stuff like arcade games and refreshing modes that utilize combat, the way splatoon has turf war, tower control, salmon run, clam blitzi was also hoping the hangouts would be actual hangouts with the characters where you do non-combat stuff like maybe take nicole out on a coffee date or somethingwhat a missed opportunity for such an amazing setting
>>475181386That's literally my complaint, it takes you to the screen but you still need to manually set up a run. If you can set up any combination of enemies you want to farm there's no reason to not just have it do that for you based on what you need
>>475182961the whole concept of customizing your farming runs is kind of pointless tooaside from like the first week of the game, you're only ever going to want to stack one card
>>475183949It's more about micromanaging your stamina usage.
>>475164939>>475169271I got banned for suspicious activity because I installed the game on my sister's phone to test it's performance
>>474779727Hey you changed it to /zzz/, it's a lot nicer and cooler now
>>475191710The invite email explicitly says if you install it on more than one of each platform (phone and PC) they will automatically ban you
>Nicole is another greed addled starter monLemme guess, is Felecia Angelle voicing this character?
How do we convince them to also add the "overcharge" stamina like in HSR to ZZZ?
>>475213821with 240 stamina, i dont think it would be neccessary
So is it july 3rd or july 4th? They usually release their games on wednesdays after all.
Crazy that we already have more end game modes than Genshin
Has anyone managed to get S rank on Shiyu Defense floor 7 yet?My best time was 4:30, feels really tough to do it underleveled
>>475229605there need to be more modes involving fun mechanics and objectives besides reducing enemy hp bars
>>475230761>Play the combat oriented game>Cries about the focus being combatNo, fuck off to genshit and your "exploration"
>>475230761You will 100% get events for that kind of stuff.
Fuck it >whitewashes the kot
>>475236994prefer the brown but this is good too
>>475229605You think that’s a good thing but it’s not. I dropped Hi3 cause too many modes and if Genshin new modes are annoying I’ll drop it too
>>475248195HI3 has too many things to do with too short resets. Variety isn't the problem.
this game has too many loading screens, it's going to be unplayable on consoles
>>475249671Yeah... I already thought it was really annoying on PC, can't imagine what console and phonefags have to go through. Luckily I'll play the release version on an SSD, so that won't be an issue anymore.
I've saved up every survey so far, going to take my time with them this weekend. Are there any questions regarding the UI? Because that's probably my biggest issue.
>>475249671Consoles have SSDs you retard.
>>475250293lots of questions about UI from what I remember
Cool, theres a general now. Forgot I had access to the recent beta though. Cop chick looks cool. Did they add back unlimited FPS option for this beta? It wasn't there in the 2nd test.
>>475265478>Did they add back unlimited FPS option for this beta?I believe so. I'm testing on my phone so I can't double-check that, but it's what I've heard
>>475250293One of them had multiple questions asking whether you could tell the material icons apart from each other, so they obviously know.
>>475265478they did there is multiple youtuber cover that option https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e83uY-9d-m8
>fight the big construction robot with the 5 corruption debuff that removes the regular way of stunning the bossjesus christ how horrifying, you can barely parry the thing to begin with so it turned into an absolute slog
>>475277321Yeah I remember that taking me like 6 tries cause all my characters were at 30% going into that fight cause I had the corruption that reduced hp for pressure
belle
What am I supposed to do till this game comes out.Why does it have to come out so late?
>>475292391I will give Wuthering Waves a shot
>>475292540What's so special about a Genshin clone that has less cute girls than it.
>>475292669Fun combat apparently. I don't expect to play it long term, just something to distract me until ZZZ comes out.
>>475292782she gonna get nerfed hard or they will overbuff every limited 5 star unit
>switch in and out hack and slash gameGetting so tired of this, Genshin set a cancerous precedent.It feels so gimmicky to play 3 characters when only 1 is on the field at all times, this isn't a turn based game, this style of combat isn't designed for switching in an out, it ruins the game.
>>475292782Kinda feeling bad for these devs. It seems like they really give a shit about making a good product, and folks just aren't really that interested in it. What interest I do see in it OFTEN boils down to "I only want this game to put pressure on genshin so genshin will get better and then I can go back to genshin">>475287083Feels like they spent a month perfecting her design, meanwhile her brother is a spruced up unused NPC model.
>>475299156yeah Wise looks so generic its pretty laughablemade worse by the fact that even if you pick Belle he is so present in the story
>>475304010Yeah, makes me wonder why it's even a permanent choice when they're both always present anyway and you even swap control between the two on occasion.
who do I level next, almost inter-knot 37Koleda could use some skill levels, Nicole already promoted and could go to 40 if I had the exp books. Should I get Billy and start running the Hares?
>>475304010because wise suppose to be kamijou touma of ZZZ the most normal person on the series
>>475304778Shouldn't he be hitting women then? Fukou da
how much time does this game take every day?
>>475305647The dailies are like login, spend 60 stamina, open the store (15 seconds) drink a coffee (10 seconds)Spending stamina is super quick, can spend 240 in under 10 minutesThe weekly stuff is longer, probably but an hour in Hollow Zero, another 20 for Area Rally, maybe more if extra stages for that mode gets unlocked
>>475304963at least they got his VA on JP dub
>>475304778>kamijou toumaHaven't heard that name in a decade, I wonder what the series is about nowadays, can't even remember why I dropped the novels.
>>475309993well surely they gave saten gun on blue archive
>>475310435all level 0s should be given guns
>>475292391Like this anon said >>475292540Play it for the memes, it releases between zzz cbt and release so it's perfect. Who knows wuwa might be better than i expected although i'm sceptical about it after seeing Tower of Flop
This is the first time a mihoyo game has launched with a character I want. Do these games normally give you enough gibs on launch to guarantee on the first banner or no? I've never paid attention.
>>475315432In the 8 or 9 days we've had the beta, I did 120 pulls on standard and 91 on limited, and I have 1800 gems and 6 tickets across the 2 bannerssoft pity is 75 and hard is 90, so potentially 180 pulls for Ellen, and I have at most 104 at this point. Maybe more launch rewards/battlepass etc can help
>>475315432good luck anon i will be saving for zhu yuan so im gonna skip ellen joe
>>475316293Hm, so at least a coin flip. Thanks.
Which 5 star is best when it comes to clearing all the content.
>>475315432Both Genshin and HSR did, but you basically had to scrap for every drop of premium currency, potentially including waiting a few days for the account level rewards.
>>475287083cutest hoyo girl so far and the best female mc in hoyoversewise on the other hand is so generic and boring, like all other sanitized hoyo garbage
I kinda liked Wise when playing as Belle, will probably do the same on release.
>>475315432for star rail, I was able to get the rerolled 5*, the guaranteed 5* from beginner banner and a 5* limited (or not, but won the 50/50)still had currency to spare, etc.this game seems to have more content on release but might be a bit trickier, although the required characters are only 6 compared to 8 from genshin/star railand for me, I won't reroll this time since both my genshin and star rail account are from the same email, I'll just buy the top-ups and get ellen + her weapon and chill until a character I like comes out
>>475324772SameI liked having that overprotective older brother vibe
>Anby messages Belle>pick a time to meet up >try to go there at said time>upon leaving the video store Billy stops me to talk about Starlight Knights (it was a forced interaction)>the interaction with Billy fastforwarded the time>Because of that I missed the meetup with Anby.................................
>weekly bosses give you material that gets turned into s-rank discs>but you can't transform them until you hit a certain inter-knot rankman
>>475333632add that to feedback anon sound unpleasant missing opportunity for character interaction
>>475333632Sounds like real life.Good job being an asshole to Anby.
>>475316293>had over 200 rolls in 9 days of playing?????Legitimate bullshit here or this faggot is spending immense amount of money on the beta.
>>475354607>spend money>on a betawhat
>>475355148Its what people do.Or are you stupid enough to believe a gacha game is gonna give you 200 fucking rolls in a weeks time???
Stellar Blade drama makes me think that ZZZ's censorship may have been work of Sony and not Mihoyo.
>>475355569You can't spend in the beta. Anyway, I'll bite. I'm rank 36 and I've rolled the following aside from the bangboo banner which has its own currency:>109 rolls done on standard (see bottom right corner for the out of 300 counter)>20 pages total of search history on limited banner, in this case 19*5 (5 per page) + 1 = 96 That said, they handed out 1600 Polys and like 40 standard rolls through the mail and it looks like they'll at most hand out half of that for the pre registration thing.
>>475354607fuck you
>>475357398>>475356913You got fucking lucky mihoyo shills.Well whatever, they clearly gave you faggots way more pulls for the sake of beta testing and it isn't reflective of the actual thing people will experience.
>>475354607>>475358625Retard.Everyone knows that most gacha gives a lot of rolls at the beginning, everyone will be able to get Ellen, the true question is if they're going to win the 50/50 or not.
>>475355938That's my thinking as well. FF7 Rebirth also censored Young Tifa with the same Day 1 patch Stellar Blade had
>>475358625As I said, +10 limited rolls and +~40 standard rolls compared to live most likely. Everyone will be able to get a coinflip + their guaranteed standard in the first week.>>475358738>everyone will be able to get EllenYeah, no. There's no way the game actually hands 160+ limited rolls within the first three weeks, the people who lose the coinflip will have to skip, get lucky or open their wallets.
>>475358738They are getting like 300 fucking rolls in less than a fucking week, you fucking turbo faggot.Who cares if they lose the 50/50, they can spam get her at that rate.And that isn't true, I had to play Genshin for like 1 whole month to be able to get my first 5star.
>>475359053just make two accounts lol, no fucking way you're losing two 50/50s right anon?
anyone got furried twice? couldn't be me haha....
>>475359118I'm getting tired of your bullshit
>>475359053>Everyone will be able to get a coinflip + their guaranteed standard in the first week.>90 for the limited roll>50 for the beginner banner>140 rolls in a weekNot happening, you're drunk on that mihoyo koolaid.>>475359553I'm gonna kick your ass and turn you into my zzz slut, I hope your wallet is nice and fat.
holy fuck nekomatas quest is awfuland it repeated the shit that happened in soldier 11s quest (hunting down a group of npcs just to become the hunted instead)
So I know that you can make an alt account by logging onto a different region in star rail etc, anyone tried to do that in the beta? I remember my invite specifying the region so it might not be possible or get you banned like using more than one device per platform does.
>>475363084For some reason my server region automatically swapped a few days ago and I didn't notice, and I just wasn't able to get into the game. An error message just pops up, but you don't get banned or anything. At least I wasn't.But what you're describing is gonna be a thing here too, it's in Genshin as well.
>>475363625Ah, shame. I wanted to double down on speedrun autism + try getting a different character from standard after all this talk about rolls. Guess I'll do a story replay on challenge mode instead.
Belle and Wise having their own case in the Agent Archives pretty much confirms they're gonna be playable in combat some day, huh?
I wonder how long it takes to get 50 rolls.If I get the furry dude I swear I'd want to make a new account.
>>475355938>>475358903Nah Mihomo's censorship is self-inflicted, Stellar Blade and any other game getting changes is just the usual corpo globohomo shit.
>>475366059Should be less than a day, it's actually 40 because of the discount. >>475366072I'm still buying the age rating explanation, the fact that the game is 16+ in CN and 12+ everywhere else tells the tale.
>>475365941I doubt so, they really have their roles as proxies well set in stone. Which means that ZZZ is the first hoyo game without a default ""5-star"" character bein given for free.
>>475365941Belle's size there is...unexpected.
>>475366763I do think somethings gonna happen to the sibling you picked at least, considering fairy mindhacking that sibling and that weird/unexplained thing that happened with that siblings eyes at the end of chapter 2. I don't thinks it was actually explained why they can't/shouldn't enter a hollow directly themselves anyways, but the obvious answer would be ether adaptability. That can be circumvented by giving one of them that, which I think is gonna happen.
>>475366736>discountI wasn't talking about buying, fucking retard.
>>475367259Neither am I. You have a bunch of discounted 10-pulls until you get the guaranteed character, IIRC it's 8 master tape per 10-pull.
>>475367717Well shit, I want the fucking cat or the eye patch bitch.Do I need a whole new fucking email to create a new account.
>They're still enabling the moefaggot and his retarded questions.
sooo sexy...
>>475368769I love her design, damn shame she's a standard unit destined to irrelevancy as the game will go on.
>>475368961she's already a worse stun unit than the furry as it is
>>475372248Ben, Lycaon, or Nekomiya? I have Koleda but I only swap to her when her ex is full, just like Anby but it feels like it builds a lot of stun
>the eye patch bitch is shit apparentlyCan't you fuckheads just rate which 5 stars are best already.Why the fuck do you have the beta if you're all fucking trash??
>>475372248>>475373207Not surprisedStill gonna max out all her skills and solo Hollow Zero with her because Mihoyo's content is just that easy.
Alright bros taking simple doodle requestsno furries.
>>475376506Grace giving double peace sign (not sexual)
>>475375596The people here are genuine shitters who know nothing about the game or its mechanics.
>>475376506Does Ellen count as furros? If not, thank fuck. If so, worry not, as I wasn't thinking of commissioning a drawing of her lower half. I humbly request a drawing of her being annoyed at the viewer while about to devour a burger...with fangs preferred but optional.
>>475375596>t. didn't play Star Rail
>>475379092>He didn't clear MoC with Yanquin or Himeko at least once.I will cleave through Hollow Zero now matter how bricked I get, all I'll need is the mandatory busted 4-star supports/debuffers.
>>475375596Man I don't know about that, no parries, no damage only stun doesn't get you too far.
Pretty sure Koleda is extremely strong if you also bring ben into the party.That is where a lot of her damage is gated behind.
>>475384612ben's resonance looked really broken until I realized you couldn't trigger it with any of the free charactersstupid fucking furry faggot
I just realized you can actually go to the Ballet Twins RoadThis is pretty kino to look at
>>475385523Right of the hollow there's this weird sphere in the sky, it probably is some lore relevant stuff?Maybe it's the moon even
WTF Topaz expy
>>475386256>spoilerKianabwos...
>>475386606Not every game can be honkai bwi
>>475385523>>475386256i already love the areas>>475386506dude on the right looks cuter than the male mc
>>475385180His whole thing is being grouped up with Koleda.They perfectly align with what the other needs and being together gives Koleda a huge dmg boost on her moves.People who think Koleda is bad are huge brainlets.Not to mention Ben literally gives a shield and is the only character that provides any sort of survivability.
>>475386256I tried going here at a different time, and now you can see it a bit better. It really is the moon, it also changes location in the sky based on what time you go here. It seems like half of it turned into a hollow? Maybe this is what Belle and Wise are trying to research
>>475372248She's not a stun character you fucking mongoloid
>>475394584She literally is.
She's a Stun, high Attk, high Def.She's legitimately the best 5 star currently out.
Nicole owes me sex
i saw they add spats to soukaku
>Beta test going on>Threads is deadThis shits going to flop isn’t it?
we're all busying playing and not posting, sorry you weren't invited
>>475413592at least it's better than wutwa thread where nobody is playing the beta
>>475414167post what you're doing right NOW
I signed up for wuthering waves, now what
So what will happen when Mihoyo fans find out that Waterkuma has drawn stuff like this?https://files.catbox.moe/a670up.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/bkazbu.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/qlp3eh.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/49eohf.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/wmkhum.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r3w9fu.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/nat65a.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/tvxn8d.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/y0xbnb.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/miwfhq.jpeg
>I signed up for wuthering waves
>>475425860Nothing, most of Mihoyo's audience isn't old enough to consume porn.
>>475426592It's so weird to me how you think you're better than him by being "loyal" to the other multi million dollar company.
>>475427184>implying I won't pump and dump this game just like I did with genshin and HSRplus I'm not an moeshitter begging for attention
>>475427735>I-I''m not asking for attention I swear!Why are you even here then? The game isn't even out.
>>475427835Because I'm in the beta and I've been discussing the game instead of being an off-topic retard like the moefaggot you're defending.
Mihoyo is a billion dollar company
I also play and then quit Mihoyo games, but HSR lasted pretty long for me, so I hope this game can find the same personal success
>I pump and dump gacha games after I spend thousands in themAdmirable.
>>475430898The only gacha game I have spent over 1000 dollars on is mahjong soulI will not roll for BA even I have standards
Some real cancer going on here, let me fix that with some OC.>>475377183Here you go son, I'd color and shade it but I'm fucking tired and hope you don't mind I skipped her cloak and grenades and other things from her waist down.>>475378896You're clear, I was planning to draw her anyway so I'll pic this up, I'll deliver sometime next week if there's still a thread.
>>475433145thanks, cute Grace, I love my autistic engineering wife
>>475432491Call yourself a paypig gacha slut right fucking NOW
>>475430291As long as they keep listening to feedbak (and don't kill the game by forcing Hollow Exploration every patch) It should print money just fine, just not as much as Genshin or HSR.
>>475433490No problem, good taste too. She's one of my top characters next to Ellen and Koleda
>>475435936Its gonna destroy both.Genshin bros are pretty angry now because of endgame changes.Both wuthering waves and zzz are about to skyrocket.
>>475438970I have all 3 of them, I got lucky in the test, hopefully it carries over to launchGrace was the first and continues to be my favorite
well looks like the test will last for a couple more weeks it seems. First event is Hollow Zero>completing the Golden Week commission "prepare for the gold rush" will give Proxies access to Hollow C41. Use the Hoolow Deep Dive System to head to Hollow C41 to hunt for treasure!
>>475439772>Genshin bros are pretty angry now because of endgame changes.What happened? Did they do something so Spiral Abyss?
>>475433145Thank you based drawanon. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
>>475440897an actual event? or just "2x drops"?
>>475445818They are mad because they are keeping the same amount of total rewards. So Abyss will cycle less often to make room for the new mode and the new mode will have comp restrictions.
>>475450709Sounds like actual rewards, and they are giving us an extra coffee each day, which is 60 stamina and a one-time double drop
>>475453397actually on further reading, doesn't seem like its each day, but rather after phase of the event, probably 3 or 4 phases
I'm not sure if it's because my characters are underbuild or because I didn't pick the right buffs, but holy shit are the hollow zero bosses in the last stage a fucking slog. I just cleared Old Capital Metro - Interior, and the hollow butcher boss at the end took me 10+ fucking minutes
>>474779727Will ZZZ feature coop to some extent like in genshin? I was disappointed when I noticed I couldn't play HSR with my bro.
>>475460589Probably blessing related but I've had some runs with similar experience. It got better after I got Ellen though.
>>475464597So far it just has coop in the echo of war equivalent. I'm gonna guess there will be more ways to coop later on
>>475464597Just weekly bosses, and there's no real interaction with the other player (there's no friends list or chat windows). To be honest, it's so minor I'm not sure it'll even make it to the full game.
are they really going to give us 1 roll per day in the final version as well?how much gacha currency do they give daily right now in the beta?
>>475465618That's from CBT2. The current daily task system looks like this and gives 60 polychromes per dayThere also is no weeklies tab there. There's only one in the BP.
>>475465302Nice enough. I wanted to know more about ZZZ's mechanics but I've only found short gameplay cuts on youtube. Oyohim still cockblocking me from accessing the beta too
>>475465931There's a youtube channel called eodgamerzzz that I found gave a good overview of how combat works if you're interested. His videos are from CBT2 but most of it should be about the same
Chinese bears...
>>475465803wow, they really butchered the gamethe cbt2 menu looked better than this shit
>>475465931It was only added in CBT3. It's decently fun for what it is, wouldn't mind them expanding it to any other modes that co-op would work in.
>>475466205Thanks
>>475466337china town with ethnic chinese wear incoming
>>475465618>>475465803>create actual 3d props for the menu>scrap them and replace with static png menuimagine how early this game would have released if they didn't waste their resources and time on censoring and deleting the soul out of the game
>>475467010To be fair there was too much visual noise on the first screen, I can imagine people with smaller cellphones having to squirm their eyes to see what's written in the sidelined daily tasks. Knowing MHY the 3d asset is gonna get reused somewhere
>>475467367it literally looked better AND clearer beforethe new version is the one that makes people squint their eyesthere's a reason people are complaining about the ui in cbt3
>>475466337>That NameBear Mountain.
I hate how long this game takes to start up and log in.
Are there some broken combination for Hollow zero like HSR SU where a shitty character like herta can deal funny damage?
>>475494684Not nearly as broken here. Most of the buffs are things like increasing crit stats and energy gain, you're not going to make the enemy explode into ten thousand damage numbers at once or anything. At least, not yet.
...zzz...
zzz looks fun to play
>>475507862It is. Kind of one-note, though.
so what's the final verdict?how are the character designs? is censorship really bad? have beta testers said anything about it?how is the world/level design? is it just sprinting across corridors?how is the gameplay? is it too boring? just slash dodge slash? monotonous? or does it have variety?is it generous? will it be difficult for f2p players?what needs to change? what changes do you want? what changes are everyone playing the beta requesting?
Am i a shitter for being A rank in skirmish?
>>475508890its fundesigns are good, they have changed since first revealedtown is vibrant but combat stages are pretty dull corridors like HSRcombat is very fun, sometimes tough to see attacks with all the effects and numbers on screenSince day 1 of this test I've earned around 230 pullsUI changes, stamina cost for gear is too high (60 not 40), the designs of materials are too similar and are mistaken for one another, no way to easily switch character view without going back to agent screen
>>475510252The weekly stage final boss is hard, I get A rank on that too but S rank only gives 10k dennies so it doesn't matter
what killed the hype for this game? All I hear about is Wuwa which is strange since Kurogames is a literal who compared to mihoyo
>>475508890>is censorship really bad? It exists and is a shame but it's not nearly the game ruining issue that schizophrenics would have you believe.
>>475512690Literally WHAT is the point of this game if not coom reasons? The gameplay does not make up for the censored/lack of coom.
>>474779727Are you guys playing the game?
>>475512825Hoyo game so you can enjoy with the amazing hoyo fanbase! The best vidya community.
>>475512957Waiting for the event to drop tomorrow, already cleared everything else that I could
>>475513187Are the bosses hard?
>>475512957Yeah
>>475513348Hollow zero bosses can be a bit tough (read: bullet sponges) if you're undergeared and have too much corruption/shit blessings but aside from that, not really.
>>475513348Well, kinda? It's just that they're very tanky and do a lot of damage, but don't really have a lot of moves, so it's moreso just a dragged out fight. Once you get the dodging/perfect assist down, it's very easy. Just takes some time to clear the stage. My biggest issue is the camera, since with huge bosses like the butcher the camera is sometimes placed in such a way that you can only hardly see the golden spark.
>>475512825your brain is fried from porn
>>475513793This is a gacha game. Gacha games are supposed to have girls with sex appeal. There's no worth to a gacha that doesn't have it.
>>475513789I have more issues with the construction robot boss since it barely has any attacks that can be parried and my current go-to team doesn't have any characters with evasive assist instead of parry. Hell, only character I have that has it is Billy.
>>475514391why not just use the regular dodge when you see the yellow flash? I have Grace but hardly use her evasive assist since I just press dodge while she's out on the field, and am only on Soukaku or Koleda for their ex specials
>>475512825>said schizophrenic immediately appears
>uninstalled genshin after 2 months>uninstalled star rail of one month>uninstalled HI3 on first weeksure ZZZ will be different, right?
>>475516069after*
>>475514783Well I do, at least as long as I don't get stuck on the legs. Still feels kind of bad to lose out on the main mechanic of the game + it takes me a minute to get rid of the muscle memory of pressing character switch in response to attacks.
I've looked around a bit ingame and it's honestly pretty weird how the moon being in the state that it's in doesn't get mentioned at all, despite the Hollow disaster apparently not having happened such a long time ago. Possibly hinting at that the moon has been like that for a long time?Pic related is the moon viewed from inside a hollow, you can see the purple outline + a weird shining core.
>>475512690I dunno, the censorship doesn't bother me personally, but the only time I ever saw people talk about this game was back when it was uncensored ("omg a 16+ hoyo game, we'll finally get all the sexy designs we can't get in their other games!").
>>475516394I guess thats fair, I'm used to dodging a lot since I'm usually on Grace and would rather not switch unless I have ex special available on other charactersI also like choosing dodge resonium so the dodge counters are even stronger, getting 5 seconds of bullet time on dodges is crazy good
>>475516568>"omg a 16+ hoyo game, we'll finally get all the sexy designs we can't get in their other games!"This is the funniest part. I often feel like I was the only one who knew they would censor and sanitize ZZZ as soon as CBT1 came out, while everyone else successfully took the bait and blindly hyed up the game.
>>475517474It unironically got a bit easier to do once I read Ellen's tooltips and knew that she gets to do her scissor attack quicker after a perfect dodge. I need to condition my brain into dodging sometimes.I do wish it was blue/red instead of yellow/red because I'm fucking blind (not sure if it's color blindness or retardation).
The standard 5* is not weak.It's just Ellen is that strong her playstyle also not clunky unlike Lycaon's charged attack and that koleda's jump on her last attack or the S11 fire attack downtime
>>475465803I don't like how hidden it is compared to the GI/HSR equivalent. More than once I've almost forgotten to claim the rewards, though idk if you get it through the mail instead if you miss it.
Ellen is trash she has no synergy
Ok
Must suck being so stupid
barely any screenshots of what the world looks like, what the menus look like, what the stages/levels look likeseems like the testers are not really liking the game
>>475535970Cant pay me to play a beta that doesnt save your progress when the game startsThere's no PVP so players getting a head start shouldnt matter
>>475516468Either the moon got hit with Hollow AIDS first or the devs just haven't bothered to come up with an explanation and it will get added for the final game.
>>475535970I'm in the beta testing stuff but I'm also playing other games too, can't really bother to post stuff often. Though those who really care can just look shit up on some twitch stream.
>>475535970Gacha shitters are all brain rotted and are treating the beta like the actual thing.
>>475535970ui looks cool sometimes but can be a pain to navigate, I put "UI bad" in every surveymaps are just hallways, no reason to post about them
>On top of getting timegated by level you also have to run into a random encounter before you can farm skill materialsYeah this is another one they'll have to fix on release.
Bangboo mods unlocked. Seems you can only equip one kind of chip at a time since the S-rank ones occupy 4 slots, other than that you can have three A-Rank chips or four B-rank with one square empty.
I really dislike this mission system in Hollow Zero tb desuMy account would be considered BRICKED if this were the real thingI'd much rather have the "do 2 weekly clears" thing for SU in HSR than this.
>>475537617God yeah. I still don't have hans and fucking everybody wants his material
>>475561812They have been talking about this and other issues in the tester-only discord channel on their official server so it's a good thing it's not just a bunch of mindless hoyo drones in there. There seems to be overall mixed opinions about TV Hollow Exploration as well, If the tester in the chinese channel have the same opinion then maybe they'll change things for the better on release ? I can't read Chinese tho so I'm not sure.
>>475564531The release date is worryingly close to be doing any major changes, maybe they'll delay it.
>>475565171Nta but I was in HSR CBT3 and what was there was 95% of what we got when it came out. They tweaked some stats on characters, got a real UI for SU and tidied up menus. What we have now os basically what they are going to launch with unless we find a big technical problem.
Genshin and Star Rail during "dead" periods are so boring, I need a new game to fit in that spare time.Is ZZZ actually fun?
>>475571309Maybe touch grass???
>>475565171Well yeah I doubt they're gonna roll back the entirety of Hollow Exploration (Unless the chinese hate it but I don't think that's the case) and like the other anon said the game will probably launch as it is now plus a bunch of QoL improvements, fixes, and buffs/nerfs that testers have been putting on the surveys. What really matters though is what they do with the game post-launch, as mentioned earlier they have to avoid slapping the TV grid minigames in whatever new content or new modes they bring every patch.>>475571309Yeah the combat is fun but there's currently a content imbalance between the two "core" modes of the game. Also>Filling the spare time from hoyogames with yet another hoyogameUnironically just play anything else that isn't a live-service.
>>475571309They are releasing July 4th, so there are 2 week periods between Genshin/HSR/ZZZ patches and content, you are supposed to rotate games
>>475571721but where do you buy hoyoverse-brand grass?
>>475572374>What really matters though is what they do with the game post-launch, as mentioned earlier they have to avoid slapping the TV grid minigames in whatever new content or new modes they bring every patch.Is the event up yet? I noticed it mentioned hollow exploration, but it didn't make it clear if it was the kind of hollow exploration that actually interacts with the game or the kind that involves pushing boxes onto switches.
>YinlingDamn, now I'm REALLY gonna play Wutheringwaves.Wake me the fuck up once ZZZ manages to produces bitches like her.
>>475574014Didn't they make some Genshin-themed park some time ago? You could snatch some from there lmao
>>475578276The new event opens up tomorrow for me, it doesn't specify what kind of content it will have but it mentions "story" which means there's gonna be hollow exploration minigames anyway.
I feel sick of seeing TV after that 500k gold loan exploration missionA fucking 30 minutes of TV and mashing mobs for a really shitty reward
>>475582241I also just did that commission today and it's without doubt the worst mission in the game so far, literally NOBODY liked it and I'm willing to bet it will get changed or outright scrapped by release.
>ADHD brain rotted scrubs getting hard filtered by ZZZGood riddance.
>>475580471Well, I don't think minigames are inherently bad as long as they're used to provide context to the combat. Like in 11's story quest, where fucking up the stealth segments would give you debuffs or extra enemies to fight. That kind of stuff is good use of the TV mode, I think.
>>475583549The TV grid may have good synergy in missions like the one you mention, it's just that you still have to engage in Hollow Exploration everywhere else outside Rally Commissions and Hollow Zero as well. And now slapping it on events too? This ain't it, John.
>>475582241You actually collected the 500k gold coins? I just let that bear nigga die in there since it doesn't affect clearance rewards lol.
>>475594265The mission still takes too long even if you don't pay the bear's debt, since you still have to farm a lot of gold coins just to traverse the maze and get all the data orbs or whatever for the 3-star clearance. That or I missed a way to speedrun it.
>moenigger ignored all dayLmao. Anyway here I am getting (un)lucky so you don't have to roll the gay wolf on release. Standard banner >inb4 wasting your luck on betaI will just get double S-rank again, except it will be on Ellen's banner.
>>475596348You're lucky to roll the furry even once. Some people got him at least twice or even three times.
>>475596348I do kinda want him for the mono ice team actually (Ellen, Dog, Soukaku)My 2nd go to team would be Koleda, Ben, Grace
>camelia golden week event>it's another TV explorationHoly shit this thing will never end, i don't mind the TV but it's just too much if they push this into every event.
>>475597740This is the first actual event though.
9 weeks to go...
>>475601076I'm sure this general will survive until then haha..
>nobody posts screenshot of the eventTruly owari da
>>475615819It hasn't started yet. Also, even if it had already started it's not a very interesting event anyway.
BLACK people in MY mihoyo game? It's more likely than you'd think..
>>475633362They should add a black playable character, the reaction of the chinks will be funny
just let me play it already
>>475634250Should have been selected for the beta then.
>>475465618>>475467010>>475467367Yep they recycled it lmao
>starting to get bored of my Ellen/Soukaku/Lycaon teamit's overis there any decent team you can make from the other free units
>>475653286Now that my Grace/Soukaku/Koleda team is finished, with my Ellen being built as well, I'm going to focus on the Cunning Hares since I figure the beta is the best time to test F2P teamAlso does anyone know if there are any event rewards from playing the arcade games? I was speeding through the text and saw there was a quest there but didn't see anything special
>>475653286No.
>>475653286remove ellen and lycaonthere, that's your free team
>>475633362so it looks like bangboo rolls will be obtained from eventswhat reward is that to the right of the bangboo roll?
>>475663119A material needed for leveling a characters skill to the maxLike crowns in Genshin/Tracks of Destiny in HSR basically
So the key tiles in this event are just the usual hoyo event timegates?
>>475664657You mean the 3 locks in the event tv? They definitely areI really hate that some of the challenges this event is getting a combo in the rhythm minigame, I can't keep a beat for shit so I'll be missing out on those dennies
>>475668058It nerfs the difficulty if you fuck it up source: menot sure if you get worse rewards though
>>475668171I mean these, I was able to clear the minigame first try but I don't think I can do this without missing a step or getting hit by red
>>475668474ohwell that makes two of us
>day of new event>thread still on page 10it's so over
>50Are these niggas serious
>>475677915That's the easy one
>>475677390Nigga we at work. I will post about it when I get home.
>>475677390>more hollow stuff>anon gets filtered by minigamesthat's it
Alright Rina enjoyers. How do get the most out of her?
shark sex
>still no official release dateIf the game is coming out in july how come they've yet to declare it???
>>475650584I tried
>>475699116Tell them you have a shitter phone next time
Hi zzz/ger/Ex Honkai Genshin player here. Still playing HSR because can be left auto most of time.One thing that still make me don't want return to to Honkai is because most of fight will boil to "press this button hard to execute beautiful cinematic move" because they overtime damage reduction and interrupt resistance. it also overuse my right hand to push all button on right side until the point I can picked my nose with my left hand because the game is set on auto aim most of time and enemy will barely damage you.So will the problem stay there? I see some comment say enemy hit hard so I assume its more like PGR where it force you to learn pattern or you will get 2 hit KO?Also I like soldier 11 but some people said her move is similiar to Anby, but how similiar each character be played because as viewer all people do is smash some button and wait enemy to parry/counter/assist to crank up ult gauge and unleash them.Thanks.
>>475705120There's only one character in the defense role and he's a freebie shitter with a shield that breaks in one hit, so it's hard to tell how braindead the game will get with a premium defense unit.But yes, as it is now you do need to learn how to dodge/parry or you'll die.
>>475706785He's literally SSS tier you fucking scrub???
>>475706785Well atleast it sound more fun for learn to survive than learn to score high.The amount of invincibility on Honkai is stupid it even doesn't matter if your HP is 100% or 10% so when a character with fat HP and she buff allies HP (probably tried to shape new meta), she doesn't change anything and in the end only use HP as another generic buff to dmg output.
They're already sponsoring the streamers but this general is still dead
>>475702708>pre-register with Nvidia GTX460 three betano luck anon
why would they give relic to people instead free 4 star weapon/character
>>475713730What character will you be rolling for, faggot.
>>475714354zhu yuan i don't plan to play wutwa already played genshin
>>475714680I thought the same thing, until they showed Yinling, now I'm fully into Ww.It'll be a fun game to play till zzz released, besides zzz is seriously lacking in good character design.Too many girls that look cool and not cute enough.
>>475715740im worry more about censorship clearly every female design on wuwa breaking chinese gov rules
>>475710227CAUSE I CAN'T PLAY YET FUCKER
>>475716251Why didn't you become a vtuber?
>>475716392not a woman
>Event doesn't have a quickstart optionWhat do you mean I need to PLAY the game?????
this clearly show kuro game doesn't care about global audience lmao literally zero care
>>475732719Kuro Gamers are big brained and wont fall for dumb shit like that unlike you brain rotted retards.
>>475733527>kuro gamers
>>475732719I don't understand what that image means
>>475733892Those are your cancer.They couldn't list a single Kuro game out there if their life depended on it.Now that your Old Gods are all running away from Hoyo games Wuthering Waves is about to become Genshin 2.0 and even more popular.
>>475663634>Tracks of Destiny in HSRnot rareare the zzz equivalent rare like crowns?
>>475734547You get >1 from unpaid BP (2 if paid)>1 from Camellia Golden Week (event)>and 2 more (but I forgot where they're from)So less rare than crows, but more rare than tracks of destiny
>>475736193got it, thanksdoesn't seem too bad then
>shilling pisswaveslol
How is zzz gonna compete against THIS???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7Rbgd_yU4
Not sure if it's already been said, but there's also an item in ZZZ that lets you pick the main stat of a drive disk. So it's pointless shit just like self-modeling resinYou get it from BP and other gamemodes
I hope all giggers and their eceleb shills stay in the WuWa thread once this game gets released. Fucking subhumans
>>475737037by reporting kuro to CCP
>>475739002Nicole sacrificed her tits for Ww to go unsullied.Her death must not be in vain.
>>475742176Nicole getting her tits shafted was probably an internal decision to placate a whole different group of faggots.
>>475743154I'm just hoping Ww releases before it gets too popular so they can keep their original designs for a lot of these initial characters.I'm sure if it does get popular and fall into the eyes of some groups it'll have to bend the knee and start censoring its later characters.
>>475737196They should make main stat can be changed.Don't they think people will get tired farming randomized shit?If an item can swap mainstat you can gatekeep it while giving falsehope of completion. Better than doing it the same way HSR did
>>475737823you should already start preparing yourself for the endless shitflinging and hoyo-cocksucking, on top of furpostingthis is a hoyo game, it's gonna have all the third world filth that already resides in gig, hig and hsrgthe general is gonna be filled with mc wars, doomposting, metafagging, chinawanking, hoyoshilling, and now furfaggingenjoy
>>475737823imagen having these people as your eceleb
>>475760826My HEROES.... and whoever that vtuber is
>>475761915shylily
>>475761915Sweetilly. She's surprisingly not horrible considering she's a gachatuber with an anime avatar
>>475760826I only know tectone and that's because people kept posting him on other generals
What would it take for them to release the "Smash Bros" of gachas? I just want to use a trio of Ellen, Fu Xuan and Mona (and Luke Pearce)
>>475760826Imagine having ANYONE as your eceleb.
>>475778373considering they are already developing their own "animal crossing", could probably happen in the futurei am personally hoping for hoyo "pokemon" in the top-down pixel art-style, highly unlikely but a man can dream
>>475781524How would that work? It sounds cool as all hell, but most monster concepts are kinda taken by now.
>>475781524>>475782694That's literally just ZZZ if you think about it. Just think of the agents as pokemon.Mihoyo doesn't make actual monsters/animals rollable, so ZZZ is the closest thing you're getting to that.
>>475783080Pokemon needs a gacha.
Forgot to add to >>475784220>inb4 Masters EX-No! The Pokemon themselves, not their trainers.
>>475784220masters bros...
>>475783080hoyo doesnt do monster-like designs because the chinese wouldnt roll for themzzz is the sole exception for having a bear as playable character, but even he is an a-class free shitter>>475784220masters ex is one, but it's terriblehonestly though, a monster collection gacha sounds awfulmonster collection is meant to be like pokemon, where you encounter the monsters in the wild and tame them, not roll from a gacha
Is the game _fun_?
Is it worth using those artifact sets that trigger when an enemy has an anomaly? They seem quite a bit harder to maintain than something like a Genshin lavawalker/thundersoother.
>>475802078I stayed up too late last night playing it so, yeah.
>>475802078Combat is fun most of the time, hollow exploration is usually somewhere between interesting and okay to me.
>>475802078It is fun whenever you aren't doing the same grid-based TV minigames every day.
>beta lasts for a whole month>it was only popular for the first few days, week tops
>>475811797even "first few days" is giving it too much credit
>>475812135I guess, at least release is in like 9 weeks from now...
>>475811797Its being outshined by Ww, sorry!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_hHNpp6qs0
>>475811797the previous beta got a lot more attention, for better or worse. It feels like this one is more of a refinement of the previous one and thus there isn't as much to talk/shitpost about. I'm playing it every day and having fun, at least.
>>475811797mihoyo needs a flop game to be humbled, but i'll still play this game
>>475819387but what if wuwa flop ? what happened to kuro game ? this is their do or die moment
hoyo should create a monster collectorpokeshit needs a competitor and unironically only hoyo could create something that would at least stay relevant, if not more profitable
>>475830530Too late for that, anything like it would be seen as a shameless answer to Azur Promilia who is already ridding the coattails of Palworld.
Palword already killed Pokemon.
>>475834406Correct, you don't see 'pokemon-likes' anymore, its palworld-likes now.
alright, I can finally quit playing this shit game
>>475836939show her ass NOW !
>>475838553but if I look at her from that end I won't see her best asset
Does this game have tanks, support and healers or every team is 3 DPS units?
>>475840779We don't really hav access to that many team archetypes at the moment but expect there to be a dedicated damage dealer on every team and the other two characters supporting that character in some way. My current team is stun/support/attacker, though they can all deal decent to great damage since Soukaku with maxed dupes is strong in her own right. There are no healers so far, only the bear dude that brings shields.
>>475840779No healers
>>475841283There are no healers in HI3 which is the hoyo game with the closest combat.
>>475841558Divine prayer and jingwei elf I guess. This game has the avocado bangboo but it barely heals anything as far as I can tell.
>>475841796Yeah those are super old and no one runs them these days.
chinks realizing that if you want your companies on the global market you need people on leadership positions who really cares about LGBT representation and Western sensibilities and less about 90s nippanese harem otaku culture, since 35% of the western population are LGBT now
>>475843275So toss in a tiny bit of yuri/fujo bait and call it a day, like always.
>>475840779it will be like honkai impact 3 eventuallyit already is pretty muchyou put one dedicated damage dealer and two supports in a team for the best outputlike ellen + soukaku, or koleda + ben, or grace + rinaunlike genshin that is heavily focused on elemental reactions, this is going to be focused on providing buffs to your dmg dealer and debuffing enemies so they take more damage
>>475843275imagine being this newif the genshin censorship didn't tell you already, it is too late for you
>>475843275>he doesn't know gay shit sellsBaldurs Gate 3 and its BEAR SEX would like to have a word with you.
>>475843275chink seethe over muh degeneracy will always make me laugh
None of the girls excite me in zzz, why is this.
not even all these bait posts can keep us off page 10it's SO over
>>475851454they butchered the only good girl and now all that's left is typical hoyoslopwaterkuma talent wasted on this shit
>>475846306and yet hoyo creates the most mid males in the entire gacha industryliterally no sexual appeal, purely artificial shilling by hoyotrannies
Mihoyo cant fool me, I wont be rolling on any early banners
Ellen looks pretty cute, but not sexy enough for me to roll.>>475861659Also you're retarded, first banners tend to be best banners for years.
>>475861659I just want to fuck a shark.
Am I retarded? I don't understand what this is asking of me.
>>475858169>look up waterkuma on boorus>"talent"Heh. Anyways...
>>475866451clearly you have shit taste
>>475864865It could bite your dick off.
GRACE FEET MIHYOYO CAN DO NO WRONG
The fan base for this game will be fucking unbearable
>>475883897*wutwa fan base will be fucking unbearable
>>475883897more like unBEARable am I right???
>people that openly support lgbt work on this gameI will now play your game
I've been looking at Genshin videos and its crazy.I remember when Genshin had like 12 characters max.Now it has like 100, holy shit.How the fuck is anyone supposed to play that shit now?You're really better off starting at the beginning or never starting at all when it comes to gachas.
>>475891693first gacha?the longer a gacha is alive, the more characters it getsalthough I hate the gachas that have 49281394823498237894732874324 units of the same character and it's just powercreep after powercreepand yes, I don't play gachas that I haven't started on day 1
>>475891693that's how i feel tooreally no motivation to play a gacha if i lose even a day
>>475851454Too safe and sterile, even before the censorsWaterkuma's only good at making sluts and MHY's design team feels like they make basic bitch stuff
>>475862520Seele fell off a cliff.>>475865723Did you do the second area in the event? That mission has to do with a minigame.
>>475891693Gacha inflation as i like to call it.The further the game has been operating and the more characters it has the more it drops in value.
>>475907986You want characters to get variants or something? that's just as cancer
>>475908602It works very well for blue archive despite everything.
>>475513187Are those nipples?
Is it fun?Are you having fun?
>>475914460seems like no one is having fun with the beta, otherwise the general wouldn't be so dead lol
>5 rolls away from soft pity on standardI hope I get another character to test instead of a weapon...
>>475908772BA's releases are still mostly new characters, Limbab or HI3 would be better since the latter used to mostly rely on that and the former is all about alts
>>475917717wait. are weapon and character on the same banner?
New event has been announced ingameIf I understood correctly it's basically Ley Line Overflow/Garden of Plenty
How was the reception of HSR beta compared to ZZZ beta?
>>475885560Considering at least in the West it's just looking like it'll be full of Genshin anti's and it's core CC's are also just drama baiters there looking to direct them at unsuspecting gacha fanbases to farm it all for content it's looking really bad if not outright hopeless for the English side of WuWa things. China and Japan will probably be relatively normal I imagine, whatever that entails, but the English side one will be defined by it's feuds with Hoyoverse fans and I can even see it picking up ire from some random other one with shitlord fans like Blue Archive English twitter aka the "muh gatekeeping" fanbase.
>>475927893The standard banner has both. I just got Grace's weapon despite not having her, so I guess I'm stuck with team Ellen until the end of the beta.
ZZZ having no healers is fucking weird.What motivation do you even have with switching to your 3rd slot then.
>>475936096If you need a healer or shielder you're bad at the game, unironically. Literally just get good and dodge. The only reason to ever pick Ben is if you're putting him into a team with Koleda, since it buffs her.
>>475936274So no point to ever switch characters.Step back from Genshin.
>>475932737english side starting to compare wuwa being difficult as souls like game is a huge red flag for me
>>475937806>Step back from Genshin.Yes, it's just HI3 with parries.
>>475937806By not using the assist dodges or parries you are turbo gimping your damage.
I can't do it bros, I thought I had it but the balls push each other instead of just stopping
>>475936096the "support" class will be purely for debuffing enemies and buffing your main damage dealer, just like honkai impact 3hi3 does have some healers, but they are useless
>>475941770use the leftover to plug the hole in the bottom left
>>475942030Usually a character that needs field time will have some very limited self healing so they don't get worn down by chip damage or get generous I frames when they are locked into animations.
>>475942692I eventually got it, forgot I could push the completed blocksI think I prefer the rhythm game despite having no rhythm
>>475937806Genshin's gameplay is fundamentally flawed and stilted as shit. You're essentially controlling one character split into four because each character only has one move worth a shit with cool downs between moves as you switch because of the elemental reaction mechanic.
>>475948217The purpose of switching between characters is to cause elemental reactions, which is extremely smart.There is no reason to switch characters in ZZZ, absolutely none.Even less so since there aren't even healers.
Looking at the W-engines has me a bit concerned since a lot of them have both an element and a role requirement, it looks like it might be a pain to gear characters without rolling for their signatures.
>>475948830What does Ellen's signature even do? I couldn't find anywhere ingame that showed it (besides actually rolling the thing).
>>475948812>The purpose of switching between characters is to cause elemental reactionsYeah obviously, I already said that. It could work if characters where more fleshed out and there was more to do before switching.But Genshin's gameplay is (move > switch > move > switch). Switching characters after one move is not fun and your basically making every move be a two button press on a delay instead of just one. Not having to switch as often makes gameplay smoother.
>>475950808>moveThey're not even moving now. You just use skill burst switch, repeat.They only move you use is spinning the camera
>>475948812>No reason to switch >Switch to do more damage >Switch to stun faster>Switch to activate buffs>Switch to get EX skills faster>Switch to get ult charged faster>Switch to prevent damage and get powerful counter attacksYep no reasons to switch at all
>>475953004Don't come at me with your blatant shilling.
>no counter argument >Probably never been in any of the betasI accept your concession
What kinda bitch has two first names
Why fart when you can shit?
>>475949979I managed to get info about it show up by clicking on the "...". It's a bunch of crit dmg and ice dmg with crit rate mainstat, but the signature being tailor-made isn't a problem - it's when you look around on the standard banner weapons and the f2p ones that it looks a bit... restrictive.The battle pass attack weapon at least gives crit, so maybe the bp will be more useful than in HSR. Still not f2p, of course.
>>475957987Usually rednecks.
Man, the ice artifact domain is ass. First wave has some lotus spider fuck who backsteps across the entire map upon seeing you, followed by a second wave with a shield generator and some asshole who spends half his time invincibly teleporting around you.These are like the most "hoyo" enemies ever.
Is Nicole's skill the only one worth using even without energy? At least it reloads regardless.
>>475975459I use Grace's skill because she can combine it without breaking her attach chain
>>475975459Ben's still has iframes and a lot of Defense shit requires you to be attacked. Soukaku's still triggers a reactive assist. Otherwise yeah.
Nice
I've been too busy looking at wuthering waves to be focusing in on ZZZ.This game is gonna kill genshin.How long till you fags start erping as Wuwa girls.
>>475986692They got a Sawashiro Miyuki character yet?
>>475988423You'll be my Sawashiro Miyuki as you suck me off.
>>474779727FAT TAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are people actually gonna roll for Ellen?
grace is the kind of girl who would NTR you with a vibrator
>>475996378it's not ntr if she's only interested in machines in the first place
>>475998158She is just a cat lady but for AI, unironically she would act normal if she was in a regular relationship.
>>475992803Saving for Miyabi
>>475948812>wanting a healer/shielder in a fast-paced game where you play offensivegiggers, everyone
>>475992803Yes, I love her design
>>476000863not playing this slop until I can roll for urban furry zhongli, simple as that
>>475998158>>476000305Considering how she acts with her "kids" you'd think she could have some comedic interactions with Billy or any future playable android, but I'm sure Mihomo has some bullshit character lore to prevent anything remotely funny from happening out of fear of chink players chimping out.
>>476000680Mihomo please give her a fluffy tail is that so much to ask?
>>476002493>>476000680>>476000863You gacha casuals, you're supposed to only role for supports since they can't be powercrept as quickly.Ellen is just a fucking full blown DPS, she's fucking worthless.And miyabi is the same shit.
I hit 40 and this is why my first tuningThe 2nd tuning was also 2 S ranks, but not my selected setGoing to do the promotion test and then see how much mats it takes to bring someone from 40-50
>>476030395shut the FUCK up jashin-chan
>>476000680>another zzz character with red eyes
What is the zzz lore behind animal fucking people, bears, furries, sharks, cat ears.What the fuck is happening in this universe, why is this furry nation???Its like this gacha is catered to the furry community.
>>476030431how does the artifact/relic system in this game work?iirc, there are 6 slots and you can obtain them by spending currency at the shop with the black robot lady>>476031753i like that they have moved on from the honkai universe, but the furry stuff really icks memaybe they just wanted to capitalize on the furry market
>>476030431200k dennies to promote, and a ton of exp to go from 40-50. Definitely prefarm your mats starting at like 36 or 37, its going to take a lot>>476032160You can spend stamina to get a couple pieces, or you can go to the record store and craft random pieces. You get the currency from the 3 weekly boss run thing and also the gear stages I think
>>476032160BG3 bear fucking has officially made furry shit mainstream.
yeah idk these rewards still look bad for gear farming but I guess not awful to try if you have absolutely nothing to spend stamina onThe weekly boss drops 15 plating (currency) and you need 5 for a single, or 50 for a multi. Weekly 3 runs will get you almost a 10 pull
>>476031753ether corruption bwiIt mutates humans and animals
>>476032845Would you willingly take in ether corruption if there was a chance to turn you into a furry?
>>476032368so the currency is only obtained from weekly bosses? that sounds much worse than genshin and star rail
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>>476035087You also get the currency from doing the regular gear stages (10 in my picture) and I think a few weekly tasks but can't remember for sure
